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Tons of fanart arriving arriving every day from the Japanese side of the internet. It's finally here.

Previously on /tosg/: >>156785230

Rank8 classes and level expansion to 330 will arrive in a few weeks.

>Latest Patch Notes: (Levelling Event)
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=669

>Rank 8 Update Preview:
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=610

>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam(Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd

This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/list-boss-cards-and-effects/321599

>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Orsha (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
cute (Merigolds)
Ohayou (Beethoven)
FOE (Mimi)
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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/Bullies/ when?
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>>156895139
First for R8 this week!
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>>156895393
R9 and 10 when? And will there ever be R11 someday?
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>>156894860
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w24boyr8eFY
Can someone explain me what's happening here?
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>>156895576
I thought it was going up to R12
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>>156895662
>>156894860
>>156894860
Punji Stakes are an amazing skill, but extremely under-rated because it's hard to setup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr3rjaUxQ00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZasSEyILDQ
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a vote for swaaz is a vote for freedom
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>>156895662
>>156896005
I thought they fixed that, must've only fixed it for link and punji then.
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>>156895347
w Swatz
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>>156896005
Jesus christ, I learned how amazing punji is with large groups of pawndels in small hallways in 130 but I've never gotten that kind of damage
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>>156897462
I would join /Bullies/
but not if sweaz leads
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>>156897750
You need to reduce aoe ratio to 0 with circling to do that
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>>156897890
who do you want to lead?
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>>156897890
sounds like... you are.. bullied out of Bullies
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>>156898045

Me! I'm the strongest bully!
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>>156898326
Prove it punk
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>>156898297
no because swartz isint a bully at all he just qqs
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Why do you fags who can clear 130/145 in "20/30" minutes solo use? All the times I've done it, it seems like bullshit to do it in less than 40 minutes.
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>yfw you're not Swaaz
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>>156898326
>>156898406
then make it. and show how much of a bully you really are.
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>>156898419
Git gud
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>>156898419
>20
More like 15
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>>156898383

Don't talk to me like that! I'll pull your hair!
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>Flying mage type enemy
>Fire element
>Mutant
>130k hp
>MFW my only damage comes from pyromancer and featherfoot spells

Impossible...
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What stat distribution do you think is optimal for fencer? I don't know much at all about fencer and just assume that high STR works, making up for crit rate through green gems, sissels, ella cards, etc.
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>>156899084
Full dex
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>>156899062
what is that?
i dont remember mob like that raping my Pyro
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>>156899374

Red Socket Mage
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>>156899495
oh, they have ~80k

also
> pyromancer and featherfoot
without linker? anon please, that is only your fault
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>>156899495
There is literally no need to kill those though
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>>156899778

First quest in the area requires you kill 10 of them and it's a main quest so you either do it or miss out on like 2-3 full maps worth of other quests.
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>>156899084
Go full dex/mostly dex. Fencer C3 benefits greatly from high dex.
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>>156899084
>making up for crit rate through green gems, sissels
No where near enough, you aim for 100% crit on fencer.

>ella
Retard.
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>>156899864
Oh my bad I was thinking of the other ones. Killing 10 mobs is pretty easy though. Just stack some mdef if you're getting raped
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Someone suggest IMC to add new skills to classes.
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I always thought thaums wore pants, but this is cute too.
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>>156900427
I did too. Or leggings at least. Always saw it as a coat instead of a dress.
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>>156900256
>New skills
>When you can't even max more than 3

Speaking of which, what if you got an extra 5 skill points when starting each circle above the first
>C1 normal 15 points
>C2 start with 5 upon taking C2, total 35
>C3 starts with 10 points, with a total of 60 at the maximum
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>>156900256
For what purpose? They should just revamp skills and spells, something like elememes electrocute for example. I mean maybe if they bring the lightning necklace out and make it times zaibas by two or three but make it times electrocute by ten or something stupid so it's not so useless in r8. But then that's really just a lazy way for them to keep skills and spells relevant instead of advancing them alongside the powercreep
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>>156900757
Skills are intended to fall off
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>>156900712
It is a coat, thaums are just that lewd. Spells literally revolve around swelling things
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>>156900115

Problem is I can't do damage to them.

All I can hurt them with is Fireball but since they're fire element they take half damage from it. So I do like 7000 damage a fireball.

That's all I can do. I die before I can kill even one of them.
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>>156900427

D-DELETE THIS!
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>>156900984
Get some of your big strong senpais or cute kouhais to help you. You do have senpais and kouhais, right anon?
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>>156900907
It's kind of a poor concept to make it that way, it makes only certain classes viable, and the rest are left in dust
But why is there a necklace that makes all the low rank classes usable far later if they're not supposed to be anymore?
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>>156900984
sux to make rainbow lolipan-retarded builds, huh?
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>>156901197

No...
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>>156901206
>It's kind of a poor concept to make it that way, it makes only certain classes viable, and the rest are left in dust
Not really, most early classes are filled with utility skills that will stay relevant regardless of your level, elememe is just a shit class


>But why is there a necklace that makes all the low rank classes usable far later if they're not supposed to be anymore?
people bitch and moan
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>>156901347
Which server are you on? I'm sure some tosg shitter would come and help you.
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>>156900725
>When you can't even max more than 3
You don't need to max every skill. Most of them either have some useful function at 1, some useful function that attributes grant them at certain levels, or else they just get a little more base damage that quickly becomes irrelevant at higher levels.

Besides that, higher skills get caped at 10 and 5. You only can't max more than 3 circle 1 skills. Typically you could max every circle 3 skill and have points for 2 and 1 left over.

Also build variety.
>what if you got an extra 5 skill points when starting each circle above the first
>C3 starts with 10 points, with a total of 60 at the maximum
No. Build variety. Maybe if each class had 12 skills that'd be okay.

>>156900757
>For what purpose?
Build variety.
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>>156900959
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>finish downloading ToS
>tfw listening to dat "muh RO" music
>muh ro graphics
>hnng nostalgia boner
>two minutes later
>"This feature is restricted to token users."
GEE IMC IT'S LIKE YOU DON'T WANT ME TO PLAY YOUR GAME OR SOME SHIT
I'll still play it anyways. ;_;
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>>156900725
>You can't max more than 3

This is the type of thinking that fucking ruins build-based games. Every class needs to have more than one single viable build. We need more Bokor -type classes that can specialize in several things, and less Linker/Cataphract -type classes that have enough points to get everything they need.
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>>156902345
The problem with >build variety is that there's only a few ways to make a correct build for each class and no room for error in decisions
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>>156900984
Do you have attributes leveled up? Are you within their level range? Are you using enchant fire and sacrament and blessing and weapon maint to increase your damage by literally thousands? Are you some hopeless shit like pyro1 link 3 thaum 1? Are you using armor and weapons appropriate for your level?
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>>156902663
>GEE IMC IT'S LIKE YOU DON'T WANT ME TO PLAY
>RO nigger
well ye, fuck off
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>>156902767
Naturally they would add more good or utility skills and not shitty ones. If you still want to cookie cut after that, that's your problem.
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>>156903006
>RO nigger
uh, what
this game is literally RO 2 senpai
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>>156902663
>"muh RO" music
Not anywhere near as unceunceunce
>muh ro graphics
RO characters are 2d and these are 3d. You can't even angle the camera to see the enemies and environment better.
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>>156903131
Technically it'd be RO3, since there is an RO2 already.
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>>156903131
>falling for there lies
hehehe
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>>156903240
It is actually a real shame that we can't, the attention to detail and the aesthetics of a lot of things are actually really good.
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>>156903240
>artystyle is literally the same
>"b-but muh 3d"
what
>so does music
>"b-but muh dance/rave songs"
what
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>>156902868

The problem is I literally can only hit these mobs with 3 abilities, one has a fuck long cooldown, one does piss poor damage and the other gets me killed because it's channeled and I can't stand still for 5 seconds against these mobs (and has a long cooldown).

So I'm left with fireball. Even with buffs it just doesn't do much damage.
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>>156903391
There's a mod to do so, some people here use it to take pictures on meetups
I'd use it to play if I knew where they got it
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>>156903371
I thought gravity ditched RO 2 because it was a (financial) failure or some shit
But I guess you are right
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>>156903483
why did you even level a bad build that far?
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>>156903585
I know there is, but it should really be a proper feature of the game. For the record it's in the addon manager and is called zoomyplus if I'm not mistaken
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>>156903681

Because fuck rerolling.

I can hit rank 8 even if I skip the story missions but I'd rather try do them. Outside of this mob it's not that bad. Shit takes a while to kill but I'm pretty much invincible against everything but mage mobs anyway.
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>>156903483
Do them one at a time and use barrier scrolls
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I just love boys so much.
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>>156903884

I'm doing them one at a time, but it's suffering.

Got to stick down like 4 fireballs, lure them into them then fire pillar it then blood blood sucking and then 2 more fireballs when it ends and hope that is enough to do it.

You got to get creative when you have a shit build.
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>>156903907

Stop!
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thanks for stomping on my corpse's ball until they leaked into my shit filled mouth last night guys
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>>156903701
Well because they made the game screen fixed, dev are also lazy with some things so they'd have to fill in stuff if they let you rotate the camera now, but for some reason there was still functionality to do that, so you can mod it in with mods like that.

>>156903401
>artystyle is literally the same
I wish. RO was cute. This game is all tits n' hips.

>"b-but muh
Go back to /v/
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>>156904006
>>156903483
Can I see your build and stats?
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So did that GM ever come to that stupid server meatup?
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>>156903907
Nice to see you're finally honest with yourself, Mia.
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>>156904495
They couldn't login because the channel was full
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>>156904374
RO also had tits, nerd.
See; gypsy, kafras, etc.
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>>156904631
Small tits.
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How long does the jumbo dumpling last?

There's no listed duration.
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>>156904631
Did RO have a class system like this?
I sort of regret never trying it
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>>156904631
daily reminder report namefags and tripfags.
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>>156904749
https://treeofsavior.com/event/taoistssecretrecipe/
read there.

>>156904775
Not really, it was like you were a novice, from there you could go to any base class, and then from there you chose from one of two secondary classes and you then went up those paths.
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>>156904607
Would not have surprised me in the slightest if that were true
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>>156904775
>Did RO have a class system like this?
Nope. Still, it's the same shit if you can deal with the "rave caves", etc.
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>>156904493

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/x7qh47utos/

This. Stats are just full int because I got Transpose.
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>>156904531
Silly Anon, that was not me.

Im just questing and thinkin of muh waifu
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>>156904740
Best tits.
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>>156905036

Put that leg away!
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>>156904983
>http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/x7qh47utos/

Reroll and take linker this time. Also do this to them http://www.tosbase.com/database/attributes/206005/
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>>156905527

>Reroll
>When class reset scrolls are coming

No way.
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>>156905653
>class reset scrolls are coming
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>>156905687

When they get added I'll have the last laugh.
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>>156905906
Maybe they will but it will be restricted somehow :^)
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>>156905687
They will come eventually.
Considering how IMC butchered so many builds with r8 they are needed.
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>>156906053

Honestly all I need is one rank in Linker and I can easily sacrifice a rank in Thaumaturge for that. It might not be the best most viable build but with the new fire bonus necklace it'll do.
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>still playing tree of restrictions
>still believing in this game
lel
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i wasn't reading the questline and then suddenly i was giving out handjobs for xp cards
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>>156906515

Are you the one who was rubbing yesterday?

Why do girls have to be so lewd??
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>>156906515

Thats your slut instincts
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>>156906515
Sloot
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>>156906665
>>156906712
>>156906715
i'm innocent i swear, i just wasn't paying attention and got lured into it
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>>156907145
I just passed that area so maybe If I talk fast enough I could convince you to give me one
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>>156907145

your instincts lures you to it, don't deny
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>>156907289
just wave with some xp cards. if ur lucky she 'doesnt pay attention' again and you get some free rubbing

damn sluts
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>>156907289
>>156907373
>>156907410
n-no it's not true..
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>>156907725
I've got some lvl 4 cards I haven't used, interested in doing an important job for me?
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daily reminder threejane is a shitstain normie
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>>156908008
Sure! What do you need?
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Where does the anti dark bracelet recipe come from?

Both 145 and 160 or one or the other?
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>>156908363
160 dung mob drop only which is why it irritates people to get.
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>>156908008
>>156907410
>>156906515
/r/ hand template with exp cards please
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>>156908683
And it's untradable too, right?

Is the seismos sword recipe worth anything?

For that matter are the anti-dark bracelets and necklaces worth anything? I never see them being sold.
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>>156908302
I need you to bully me in my bed because it's lonely in the middle of nowhere
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>>156908713
>only hand as reference
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I'm gonna reset my alch's skills at r8 anyway, so I'm gonna take combustion. What should I expect?
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> At the point where dungeon/mission queues take 20+ minutes.

It's starting to feel like I spend more time waiting in line than actually playing the game.
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>>156909649
Stop doing them and grind then. You shouldn't even bother queuing unless it's prime time or some time in the afternoon.
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>>156909735

You're probably right. I suppose I was spoiled by how easy it was to find parties in the sub-200 range. I'm shocked how quickly that drops off, do most people quit around 175 or something?
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>>156910369
What server are you on?
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>>156910369
>I was spoiled by how easy it was to find parties in the sub-200 range
ppl rarely que for 217 or 240
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>>156910369
It's simply more efficient to grind at higher levels.
At least from 210 on.
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>>156910369
It feels like they don't start until 120s and stop at mid 200s. Although I can get them at 250, it's like a mix between 240s and 260s.

You should also consider soloing if you're not a support.
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>>156910535
People will queue for 240 enough, as much as they'll run it for equipment.
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does anything else drop straw mat besides blue temple slave?
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>>156910502

Klai

>>156910672

That also seems to be the case for the 190. Was waiting 30 minutes on that one before I gave up on it.

>>156910748
>>156910672

Yeah, that's probably what I'll do. I find dungeons pretty boring anyway. It'd be nice if they weren't just copy/pasted normal maps with ramped up monsters.
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>>156911093
Attok cubes.
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What level of cards should I be saving up so I don't get stuck on 160-186

All level 6-8 cards?
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>>156911120
>190
oh, bad luck or just weekend.
i got my runs of that kinda fast, a few days ago.
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>>156911727
while dungeons give you nice exp

130 to 16x (only L7+L8)
190 to 20x
50 to ~65
90 to 10x
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>>156911120
If it's 240 or 190, just shout in shout chat and you'll probably get a group.
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Pet grooming with /tosg/.
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>>156911925
I know to ride up the dungeons as much as I can, but what cards do I need to keep in order to skip the big R5-R6 gap like the other guy
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>>156911727
Save all cards from 130-165 and just run missions and the dungeons for 5 or so days
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>>156912221
i like to save only L7+8s

from 130 to 165 or 164. they will get you to 177 or 178. from there you get easy 186. xp reset. fast to 190. that dung until like 204 or 205 or 208. cards to 210. truffle grind
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>>156896005
>gook coding
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>>156912123
baka, ugly lesbians desu senpai
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>>156912226
who gives a fuck about dvine
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>Accidentally enter siauliai solo
>Can actually see the tree throwing apples both times
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>>156912226
They'll probably merge the servers eventually.
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>>156914760
what are you talking about? who do you think I am? I've always been better than that low con shitter
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>>156915084
dvine is an autist who didn't even play when he played

fuck off dvine
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>>156914760
>>156915084
>>156915135
>>156913483
>>156912226
who?
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threejane needs to kill himself
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Introducing Ohayous official theme song!

Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4iBBfEHNaE
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>Sees donation sanctum
>donate
>no response
>mission now has to find the Pardoner
>beside the sanctum is a shop for a warp
>10k silver per scroll
>finds him
>ask for money for purifier

This is a scam, right? He's way too obvious.
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>>156915305
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>>156916058
ERP is gay.

>buzz
that's just downright corny
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>>156916009

No, it really works. Just he really jews you for it. Pardoners are worse than demons.
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>>156902663
>GEE IMC IT'S LIKE YOU DON'T WANT ME TO PLAY YOUR GAME OR SOME SHIT

I entered this game with the same expectations as you only to find that it has horrible restrictions that punishes players and even more jewery than RO.

I'm still playing, I'll just probably ignore all the premiums.
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Post moe
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>>156916058
meh
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>>156916738
>even more jewery than RO.
Like what?
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>>156916009
>Expecting anything else other than extreme jewing from a guy named Goldmund
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>>156916009
I hope you didn't buy that teleport scroll instead of just warping to his map and walking to him.
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>>156916742
This is a Druid 3
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>>156917346
paid tokens and costumes.

We never had that over at RO.
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>>156917463
Ah, shit.
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>>156917829

Being a pardoner isn't easy, goy. Or cheap. So pay up!
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>>156917668
Yeah, you just had one boring outfit for each class forever.
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>>156918532
>>156917668
Oh, I forgot to say, you had a subscription instead of tokens. Nothing is more of a ripoff than making you pay for the same game again every month.
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>>156918532
>Not choosing your classes based on your favorite costumes
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>>156916742
HIME FUCKING CUT WHEN?
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Fact is you can't have a game like RO in this day and age and have it have a subscription.

Fact #2 is you can't have a Korean MMO without pay to win sown into it. It's just not how Koreans make MMO's.

Fact #3 games like this with so small playerbase will not have enough funding to carry on improving nor balancing the game.

Fact #4 you at best case have a year or two of server life left, and IMC has already milked the most of money they could.

You can like something all you like despite it's shortcomings, but that doesn't erase them.
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>>156920695
DELETE THIS
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>>156920695
>lewd art of the most modest cleric outfit
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>Someone asks to be my friend
>Before I can respond he starts apologizing and runs off the map
>Visible confusion
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>>156920903
>Not chasing after the love of your life
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>>156920903
That means he has a crush on you, anon. You should try and bully him.
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>>156921065
I followed him off the map but he jumped away at the statue

>>156921104
If I see him again I'm going to spook him for sure
>>
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>"lol why is our priest going to the front, they're so dumb"

It's called "reviving your stupid ass." Stop leroying into the enemy team, and I wouldn't have to.
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>>156921980
fucking 3jane man.
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>>156921980
>Listening to what 3jane says
Your biggest mistake senpai
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is this measured in seconds or what
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>>156921980
Don't let it bother you too much
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>>156922131
yes
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>>156921980

Look on the bright side. Now you know who to leave as worm food for next time.
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>>156921736
where are you getting these
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>>156922639
deep web ofc
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>>156921980
>Giving a rat's ass about 3jane
That was your first mistake. Just let that son of a bitch lying on the floor.
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How i get there?
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Can anyone recommend me more aggro quests? Seems like I finished the quests when I searched for it on Google.
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>>156924527
teleport
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Atom here

tree of savior more like tree of faggots lmao
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>>156925959

Tree of Masochism
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>>156926119
more like Tree of Masculinity
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>other girls trying to copy my style
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>>156926452
more like Tree of Faux Femininity
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So why did the people around Saule's town make you do a bunch of stuff for no reason? Just to gain your trust? Was the water supposed to be polluted? Why's that one sap container bloody?
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>>156927762
Did you not complete it yet, or read it for that matter?
All the townsfolk were disguised demons and sent you to do dangerous shit trying to get you killed
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I haven't played this game in a long while. Did they ever change Skyliner to 0 cooldown? Did they change how Deeds of Valor works? This skill simulator site has all Korean in these descriptions so I'm guessing it was changed or is going to be changed.

Also all these preview videos just suck. The characters hit for like 60k damage on auto attacks so it's obvious it's a buffed up GM character.

This game still seems confusing as fuck to theorize around. The one thing I hated the most is that it's near impossible to play this game effectively without speaking Korean or looking up 30 Korean youtube videos only to find out shit doesn't work like that on iTOS.

Speaking of which is iTOS still different in terms of skills than kTOS? Did they ever explain why? Or give a bullshit excuse like "it's impossible to implement kTOS patches because of reasons"?
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>>156928036
ye
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>>156927884
>Did you not complete it yet, or read it for that matter?

>Was the water supposed to be polluted? Why's that one sap container bloody?

No, I totally haven't done it 5+ times. Every time I wonder what all that other shit was for. There were times they tried to kill you, a couple of times they tried to open the library portal, but then there was other shit like purifying the water and gathering random crap that served no purpose to get you killed or otherwise.

It also raises the question of what of her followers. Did they live in the town and are going to go back to find their families missing or what?
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>tfw punji trap on alemeth truffles

I also got pavise to trigger that collision death cascade but I haven't been able to reproduce it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y7cExA2qrQ

We Cossack now.
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>>156928307
k
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>>156928528
It looks amazing, until you remember none of the Musketeer skills work while mounted. It's an awful combination.
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>>156929146
Who need skills? Do you play for do dmg or for fun?
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>>156929784

>ToS
>Fun

Select One
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>>156929146
Why is the pet thinking about boys?
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>Archer 1 in dungeon run keeps doing party-wide swift step
>Archer 2 keeps telling him not to, explaining that under no circumstances should an Archer 1 do that
>Archer 1 keeps doing it, overriding Archer 2's

Why
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>>156929883
See the cossack video and say to my face that tos don't have fun.
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>>156929784
>Playing a dps class and doing no damage is fun

What? My definition of fun is not suffering.
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>>156930029
no archer ever should use that bullshit

>why
retarded ppl
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>>156928036

Anyone? Or did every swordsman really quit before the buffs and changes happened like many predicted so no one knows on this general?
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>>156930172
Then you are a dmg whore and will never have fun.
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>>156928036
>Did they ever change Skyliner to 0 cooldown?
No, they made our Skyliner go to kToS
>Did they change how Deeds of Valor works?
Don't think they changed, deeds is great.
>Speaking of which is iTOS still different in terms of skills than kTOS? Did they ever explain why? Or give a bullshit excuse like "it's impossible to implement kTOS patches because of reasons"?

We got a patch that made us similar to kToS, but they got buffs and nerfs after that. We'll get their buffs and nerfs at rank8 update.
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>>156930191
>no archer ever should use that bullshit

Partywide's fine if there's a Krivis AND it's Archer 2 or 3 AND there are other archers who didn't take Archer 2 for some retarded reason.

Which is surprisingly frequent in dungeon runs I've been doing the past few weeks.

That's it, though.
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Is linker2 worth taking?
Getting 3 more links on joint penalty doesn't seem worth it, and sharing buffs seems like it'd cause a lot of overriding
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>>156930509

It's just that Deeds has it's entire description in Korean on the skill planner site with a new (?) attribute listed that is also in Korean and all the Doppel abilities have attributes that weren't there and all in Korean so I have no idea what these are. Hence my confusion.
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Anyone know if Diev3 costume changes Carve Attack's animation too, not just when carving statues?
Still debating whether to get this or to use Miko outfit soon.
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>>156930653
depends on your build, but its not just three extra links but also a bunch more extra hits until break as well
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>>156930653
>Hit Limit
worth it for that
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>>156930749
Don't know about deeds, but the other attribes are the ones that make Redel and Zucken do +160% dmg, i guess the other is the one that makes punish becomes AoE
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When are they going to make more weapons that give bonuses to skills?
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>>156930997
Any place I can go to with updated info so I can read up on this shit and not ask about them here? Pastebin have any updated info?
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>>156931136
kToS Patch notes: http://pastebin.com/u/sunhwapark

I guess there is an topic in the official forum about the skill for rank8, check the swordie section.
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>>156900427
that is pants, have you never watch Strike Witch?
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>>156931337
Checked swordie section, nothing but the useless guides that have been pinned for months. I'll keep searching.
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>even fanarts angry Pyromancer found her crush
Not fair
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>>156932554
I don't even know what class this is supposed to be.
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>>156932713

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/r8-swordsman-skills-translation/321914
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How do I get good equipment on this game?
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Just read that every class in this game is weak and only becomes powerful with an insane item grind / silver sink at the end.

Is this true? People mentioned transcending gear and insane silver sinks that take hundreds of hours of farming that only a few classes can do.

Like someone mentioned you can do 3 dungeon runs a day to earn 1 million silver, but to upgrade a skill to 100% attribute costs 40 million. One skill. That's insane. You have like 20 or 30 skills. Not all need it, but this seems insane. How do you guys cope?

How hard or time consuming is transcending weapons and armor? Is that another insane time sink?
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>>156932991
Farm 145 solo for 1 million silvers each day
Buy equip
Or
Get lucky with cubes and rerolls while you will still spend 3x the silvers need for buy said gear on the market, if you even found the thing you want in first place
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>>156933018
only get high attributes for your main skills. and 70% 80% or whatever is fine too.

dont transcending your armor. and ofc dont need Lv10.
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>>156932908

Thank you. I don't know if I'll return but I just want to read up on what has changed in my absence. I fear that I'd have to re-roll my swordie (H3>Pelt>Dop2) into a H1>Bar3>Dop3 and knowing how much silver attributes need and how much you have to grind I feel like I'd never catch up, especially if R8 is just a few weeks from now.
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>>156927503
I just imagined a landwhale getting triggered because of that.
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How does Falconer skills work? Can I make an auto-blitzer with it using qs3? And anyone knows what are the new Falconer3 skills and attributes?
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>>156921980
the best part is everytime we talk shit about threejane he thinks its only swaaz
"nobody else but you talks to me like that"
top kek, his autism is on another level. he honestly thinks only 1 person on the internet doesnt like him
keep bullying him so he can get mad at swaaz more
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>>156920695
FAT
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>>156933018
The money needed for attributes grows such that the last 10 or 20% needs 1 million per %.

Even for something like Flesh Cannon, a circle 6 skill which takes 74 million to max, 0 to 70 is only 10 million. So it's not THAT much unless you really want to squeeze out those last %s.
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around what level is r5?
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>>156935317
126
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>be hunting for an ingredient
>some ramdom guy comes and get it on the first kill
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>>156935384
sankyu
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lets all reroll on jtos and enjoy the feeling of a good server
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>>156934740
Check the Falconer info, it's linked on this topic at the top.

>>156932908
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>>156935682
No, lets just move everyone on a better game
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I don't get this "make a character just to solo farm 145" meme. Almost an hour of boring dungeon grinding slavery where you cannot leave or you lose the run just for 1m? Is that meant to be a lot? Seems like there are much better ways of making money that are less tedious.
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>>156935682
how to play jtos?
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>>156936072
i dont know!!!
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>>156936068
it takes 45 mins at most.. what class are you playing?
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>look up the forum for rank 8 videos
>look up doppelsold
>no videos showcasing how they fare vs multimobs
>none of that "OP damage" this thread mentions
>check other swordsman videos
>just more suffering and suffering
>check warlock C2 videos (elememe)
>they do just fine vs multiple mobs
>half of doppelsold video links dead
>nothing online
>no info to look up
>all videos dated as fuck
>try to google videos
>find absolutely fucking nothing
>plenty of videos of archer / wizard and cleric
>plenty of memegoon pvp videos
>see a note saying all doppel skills are "fake multihits"

you are all a bunch of misinfo agents!
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>>156936421
play the thread
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>>156936068
You can always afk farm or play the dead economy market ruled by 145 dungeon runners
Making money in this game is tedious
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>>156936572
fuck u
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>>156936421
its all memes and lies again

>no dopplmuhdara
>fencer this, doppel that, pasta a lie
>eveyone just pretends to roll swords
>they all just want to troll (You), again
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>>156936659
I spend time thinking about how the economy could be fixed and I can't come up with anything. Even if there were lots more players, it wouldn't help.

Making items require lesser items to a higher degree would help some but...

How did RO's economy work anyway? There were player shops but that was before I bothered buying things from and selling things to other players in mmorpgs.
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>>156936421
>he didnt make a sword3 pelt corsair fencer2
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>>156936068
> Is that meant to be a lot?
Yes
You can't make 1 million silvers from killing mobs faster
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when do dungeon timers reset
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>>156936421
>What are Frenzy, Warcry and DoV 15
>What is trascendence
>What is 8x Glass Mole stacking for +160% Physical attack 100% uptime
>What is boss and mobs having absurd magic def when all magic skills still have low base damage compared to physical skills in rank 8 so new magic gear and Chappariton stack won't be as effective as it is for physical DPS
>>
Anons on

Storage
Workshop
Maven

are there a lot of cloth mobs that give good exp? I figured im getting 4-5m in evac solo while hunting for level 3 gems, so if gems also dropped on those 3 maps it would be great
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Why is there a Centurion Master in Forest of Prayers?
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>>156937408

I don't know. Show me in a video senpai or STFU.
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>she didn't made a sapperfwee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w24boyr8eFY
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>>156937648
it´s just a ghost.
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>>156937635
https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/57987
https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/57951
https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/57957
https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/57961
https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/57959
https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/57984
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>>156937656
There are no videos because none has made one of an optimal party builded around maximize a Doppel DPS
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>>156936421
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-XgtWmUxMk
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>>156937262
6am
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>>156938079

Here's a solo video for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ9wwHFWBN8

Just eat a shroom that poisons you and get 15 stacks of Frenzy and deal 2.5 million damage in 5 seconds.
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>>156938327
Good to know that dungeon is fast to rush
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>>156937032
This is what I plan to do but messed up on my 2nd reroll.

3rd times the charm:
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/f1oyj3i0ty/

If more ranks come after I'll go back to corsair and add more to JR and the rest.
Pelt is just for the Swash and the added evasion from Guardian.

It will be slow since there's no offensive skill for a whole lot of time but come Corsair I'll have both Pelt blows and double slash to keep me company.
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>>156938513

Sure if you're a doppel with a +20 weapon.
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>>156937656
The trio Dragoon Doppel Krivis3 just shit over any Magic focused composition both on paper and in practice
Just give up
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>>156938681

Show me.
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>>156938713
I can't because I'm lying dude I have nothing to back my claims up
Except my ass
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>believing crimson misinfo agents
>letting crimson generate all this fake drama around 3j, lolipan, dvine, etc

why, /tosg/?
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>>156938938
Why would crimson give a shit about any of those irrelevant people?
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>>156938713
Look few videos like the ones posted above you
You saw the damage done by Doppel there? Now think about what can happen when a Dragoon nearby use Serpentine for +100% that damange or when there is also a Krivis3 to Meltis your Glass Mole so you can stack them
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>>156939042
Because it's fun shitting on all the /tosg/ meme guilds
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>>156939046
So what? Are you saying good combinations should not be used? Leveling and playing a swordsman since the start has been nothing but suffering and it still is. Deeds makes you have 0 armor you enormous faggot. Look at this and tell me it isn't just pure suffering:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWA4rUUnbwo

Not to mention the community, here and elsewhere, were all shitting hard on sword for the entire early access. Do you not remember how swordies couldn't even get into parties unless they were one circle into peltasta? How they couldn't even reach max level without gimping themselves?

Fuck you cunt.
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>>156939042
the drama keeps tosg divided and them on top. open your eyes, anon
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>>156938938
isn't that just Swaaz?
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>>156937702
I'll know that feel soon.
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>>156938643
I think he means it doesn't require a killcount to get to the bosses
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Gas the dykes, homo war now
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>>156939046
You'd really want a kriv pard then, to extend the buffs and serpentine as well. And the kriv itself can be a force to be reckoned with too, they could still go cleric2kriv3pard1anything1tao1 and be able to shit out 30k zaibas too
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>the zaibas meme again
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>>156939761
Pard1Miko1
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>>156939324
>Leveling and playing a swordsman since the start has been nothing but suffering and it still is. Deeds makes you have 0 armor you enormous faggot. Look at this and tell me it isn't just pure suffering

woah. if you thought that leveling a swordsman from level 1 to doppel then I dont think swordsman is the right class for you, I have a total of 6 swordsaman and I have enjoyed the process until rank 7, also if you think that having 0 def because of deeds is suffering then I dont think Doppel is for you either, the weakest doppel ive ever seen are the ones with this stupid mindset

also dont believe that anon pushing stacking glass mole cards, that clearly isnt an intended feature
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>>156940530
not him but what is "stacking glass mole cards"? I quit a long time ago and when I did there was some kind of rumored card system but I know nothing else.

What does this card do and how come it's a bug?
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>>156940530
>if you think that having 0 def because of deeds is suffering then I dont think Doppel is for you either, the weakest doppel ive ever seen are the ones with this stupid mindset


this tbqh honest, you either embrace the yolo life or you reroll into a hugbox fencer

>>156940692
Glass mole gives 70% more physical damage for 4 seconds, with krivis and squire the duration has 100% uptime and you can stack the effect on top of itself making it 200%-300%-400%
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What do you guys think it's the best Alchemist build?

I've been debating on whether I go Wiz3-Linker2 or Pyro2-Linker2. I was originally going with the former, but then there was the Agni necklace... pls help?
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>>156940759
What does a Krivis and Squire do to make it 100% uptime? Again reminding that I'm massively out of the loop.

Also how is it a bug if the duration is extended doesn't it make sense it stacks? Also if it is a bug then isn't swordsman still the weakest class if it simply gets fixed?
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>>156940759
Keistas restorative pot proc the card and run on different cd too so you can make 2x stack and get shit like +640% physical attack :^)
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>>156940759
>hugbox fencer

Not him but what?
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>>156940889

each glass mole gives 10%, at r8 you get 8 cards slots, what's why 80%

krivis 3 has melstis, which can keep buff timers on hold as long as melstis lasts

nto sure what he memed about squire, maybe one of the foods prolongs those regen effects and the cards too
>>
Guys how to like back when the person you like suddenly moved out of the map?
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>>156940992
Maxed Squite tent extend all buffs duration by 100% so you have 12 seconds Mole buffs instead of 6
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>>156940992
Ok thanks for the info. I remember cards needed to be leveled up. Is getting a glass mole card difficult in any way? Do you need to level cards up to use them? Can you remove them / swap them around? I know you fight glass mole in the mercenary missions but those don't drop the card so where do you get one?
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>>156940934
The main difference between Fencer and Doppel is

Fencers are pussies who cant take a punch, theyre like scooby doo villains tip toeing on the battle field because MUH EVASION GUISE! but in reality its because they dont want dirt in their 'classy' uniform,even their weapons are fragile as fuck

meanwhile Doppels welcome pain, if you think that having 0 def is suffering then you can GTFO, YOU HIT ME HARD I HIT YOU HARDER, Doppels are real men, Doppels recite this 100x in their mind before jumping into chaos

>Once more into the fray. Into the last good fight I'll ever know. Live and die on this day.Live and die on this day.
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How long will these gloves last me? I was going to use them forever since they are pretty amazing but would like second opinions.
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>>156941418
They are shit at that lv too
Get Red Veris or Vubbe
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>>156941418
when you get virtov leather gloves
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>>156941094
If no one cares to explain, any links on where to get these cards or a pastebin would be appreciated.
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>>156941556
>shit
my dude you are blind
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>>156941568
Yeah those def seem significantly better. Cheers, friend.
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>>156941418

vubbe are better for aoe
red veris for bossing

this one maybe good if you're a absolute total full dex tard at bossing
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>>156941691
And Red Veris gives you +23 Crit rate which is better
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Alright guys, can you fix my build?

https://tos-kr.neet.tv/skill-planner#314389ef7.15244551.15243145.153545.14213545.152535.1121354365.153545
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Is someone dropped featherfoot gloves from 240 dungeon, or i get memed again?
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>>156941319
You're getting too much into it.
I'm going Fencer for the costume and the costume alone. Rarely do the class has any classy clothing, even on female.

Now, if the swordsman class can wear maid uniform I'd do doppel instead.

Or maybe I should try mixing doppel and fencer?
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>>156942479
>Nothing classy
Swordsman3 you nigger. It looks absolutely great with Cor3 and GUN. But then again

>Cor3
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>>156942552
People do Cor3 for 15 JR so they can hopefully steal boxes from bosses, or so I hear.
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>>156942270
It does drop from the 240, and they're also tradeable.
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>>156941646

I'll check this general tomorrow in hopes someone can answer. Night.
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Is concentrates damage flat?
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>>156942737
From my experience it looks like it is.

Only a hunch but it looked like this: (base dmg - target def) + concentrate buff.
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>>156942737


yes. added at the very end
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>>156942643
from 145 boxes i got nothing but virtov.
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How the fuck do you gather all these dumpling ingredients? The drop rate is too low and fuckers are selling them in the market for 20-50k.

WHY
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>>156942916
? You spam mobs. I completed one Jumbo dumpling mowing down mobs at mage tower 5.

Sugar is hardest to get so you'd probably have surplus of other ingredients when you finally get 5 sugars.
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>>156942987
What level are you? I heard they only drop if you're in the same level range as the mobs.
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>>156938938
>threejane doesnt deserve drama
seems legit
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>>156942916
>tfw have crafted so far 5 Jumbos on my lv 150
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>>156941081
incorrect, lv10 base camp extends buff durations by 300%
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>>156942916
You're not supposed to farm the dumplings, you're supposed to gather and craft them as you grind. They drop at a low chance from killing monsters, so if you're in a high-intensity grind party, it'll come to you eventually.

If you specifically farm for the ingredients, you're actually losing time. You'd have to farm a whole dumpling in 7 minutes to be even.
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>>156937648
you need to talk to him for stam quest
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>born to late for explore the oceans
>born to soon for explore the space
>born in time for Hamster cavarly in a Korean Girl dresser simulator
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I really like Hauberk. It's a shame what happens to him later on.
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Any /tosg/ guild leaders online right now?
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>>156943967
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>>156943967
Sup.
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so im exploring and i found this chrono afking with his pet hoglan, and the map im in does not have hostile monsters, you must attack them first to have aggro
hes 5x the level of the monsters also
well for some strange reason, all the monsters around him are auto-aggro'ing his hoglan while hes afk and hes getting kills doing nothing
how is this possible? im in a map which doesnt have monsters that aggro you unless provoked first
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>>156944013
Shoulda specified Klaipeda I guess, thanks anyway.
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>>156944243
aggro quest dummy
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>>156944215

show me your pussy
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>>156944301
https://my.mixtape.moe/gddoxi.jpg
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>>156944437

I like it
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>>156944013

> That face

What's wrong with your hamster?
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>>156944578
https://my.mixtape.moe/igbzku.jpg

So that's it? You just wanted to see?
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>>156943120
128
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>>156944743
can i touch?
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>>156944743

I want to break that
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>>156944729
Hamsters do emotes too, some are weird.
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>>156944915
>>156944941
https://my.mixtape.moe/htieet.jpg

Maybe we can come to some monetary agreement?
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Does Cyclone 50% slash stack with the new R8 Doppel slash debuff?
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>>156945020

how much?
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>>156945034
>Cyclone

Cleave*
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>>156945020
No thanks, i don't want to pay
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=59330364
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>>156945073
You know who you're talking to, right? Talt is my price. All of it.
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>>156945156
>>156945073
You are both under arrest! I ask that you do not resist.
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>>156945683
>implyning
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=59102269
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>>156945683

I wouldn't resist, just show me ur pussy
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Help me bros, I have been going back and forth between my Fencer and my Doppel, jesus christ after I outweigh one to the other I would transfer equips to the other then play it for one hour until I would feel like playing the former instead then I would transfer the equips back again and repeat this cycle

what do I do, i like both's playstyles, theyre different but I cant make my mind on it
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Is it true that you could re-roll a fucking hat enchantment / weapon upgrade by using a hack to crash the channel you're in?

How are you faggots even playing this game still if shit like this happens all the time? No wonder faggots have 3 hat pieces all with AoE attack ratio and +20 weapons.

Fuck me faggots. You have no excuse. There's a thread with 137 fucking replies exposing a guy on the forum and no GM responses.

Seems like the GMs have given up entirely on this game so why the fuck haven't you?
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>>156947195
im still having fun and kind of invested in people
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>>156947195
>Seems like the GMs have given up entirely on this game
GMs are on Fedimian most of the time
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>>156947195
I'm still having fun.
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>>156947506
Why?
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>>156941418
>red veris for muh crit rate
>vubbe for muh aoear
>demonas for an all around dps
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>>156942170
>cannoneer and qs1 with hakkapälle
why
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Say I have a default aoe ratio of 5

will my fencer skills only hit 5 smalls, 3 med? why bros
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>>156947863
IMC staff don't speak english at all
They are either gooks or yurop
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>>156948010
When you get close to 100% crit anyway wouldn't this with 2 level 6 Red Gems along with the Highlander attribute be better?
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>>156948583
>When you get close to 100% crit
when are you realistically getting close to 100% crit rate as a doppel?
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>>156948427
Most EU speak English perfectly.
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>>156948621

No good build aims to get close to 100% crit. Realistically you're aiming for 70% because full DEX build hit low cheeto numbers.
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>>156948880
>Full dex
>doppel
I'll never understand you lot. If you want to evade shit, why not just play fencer?
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>>156948964
>going STR in rank 8 when the stat scale is worthless compared to tradcendence and weapon stats
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>>156947195
better question is why are you so butthurt about it?
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>>156949019
You can get up to 800+ str with level 330 and R8.
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>>156949104
>>156948621
>>156948880

A 3:1 Str:Dex build with Sissels and 3 level 7 green gems in your weapon should put you close to 100% crit rate right?
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>>156948964
Because I want to stay alive and I don't want to poke at things with a tooth pick. Just get a stash of shrooms to keep your Deeds up, no need to face tank attacks.
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Hey guys

I used up all my cards to get to lvl 160, where to level next?
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>>156949456
I have what you described and I only have 380-420 crit rate, gonna need 7 ellas to touch 90%
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>>156948964
Goodluck in pvp mate, even at pve youll only be 30% stronger than dex doppels thats if they dont crit
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>>156948964
>ill never understand you lot.

You do realize that there arent any full str doppels here at ktos? there are more sword 3 doppels than full str ones
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>>156949456
>>156950201
You need 600 crit rate to get 90%, at 280.
At 330 you'll need 707, all this not accounting for mob crit restist.
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>>156950258
>PvP
>Swordy thats not a Sword3Cata3

I have 4 other characters I would PvP or GvG on before my Doppel and one of them is a sub 200 Priest. This character is just for maximum deeps for rank 8 why would I ever want to PvP on this?
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i'm number one
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>People keep inviting me to do stuff
>Still have 1 hour and 26 minutes of 8x tome left

When can I be free of this torture?
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>>156950790
>>Swordy thats not a Sword3Cata3

How long are you gonna parrot this one? there are countless of pvp doppels here in ktos and even the ones who noly do pves arent full STR, so your 'maximum' deeps wont be that deep because of STR's scaling
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>>156950790
>GUYS IM DOING 1600 MORE DAMAGE THAN YOU!
>cant hit mobs on 290 and 315 dungeon though :')
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>>156950924
How do you know what their stat builds are if you:

A) Don't speak Korean

B) Can't inspect their stats

C) Don't play as one

D) Don't PvP in Korean (if you did it'd be pointless)

E) Faggot

>>156951019
Your goal is a mix of stats. When he says deeps he most likely means he's going to sacrifice crit rate for bigger crits. Which one is more efficient depends highly on a huge number of factors. Using a calculator and finding a sweet spot means you're looking at a scenario where one is completely stationary, that ignores monster crit resistance and a bunch of other factors.

Criticals in this game are not double damage at all. Investing too much is a mistake. Investing too little is a mistake. That's why 3:1 builds exist, because they work. If he wants to go FULL STR he might excel at hit and run or mobbing but against world bosses a no dex, no evasion doppel is just going to die to lag spike induced world boss bursts. That is if he's a retard who stands still and doesn't use cross guard is stands in magic AoE.

Evasion does nothing vs magic. Thank christ all those boss aoe attacks that look suspiciously like magic are evadable amirite faggot? and it's ALWAYS going to be like that, right faggot?
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>>156950909
Does Base Camp increase the duration of tomes and dumplings too?

>>156950924
Koreans are shit at pvp don't even try to pretend your Doppel is more useful than random generic Cleric #194.
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>>156951386
nice samefag

you really are the only one here in tosg whos going STR over doppel lmao
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>>156951541

I seriously doubt it. They're on the bottom row of buffs so don't count as normal buffs.
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>>156951561
That's all you got? Ok.
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Rerolling, which of these is more fun (Sword) and wanted in guilds:

High 3 > Barb > Dop 3
High > Barb 3 > Dop 3
High 2 > Barb 2 > Dop 3
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>>156952150
>High > Barb 3 > Dop 3
Standard Doppel build, its cookiecutter and meta doppel, its a 'ALL EYES ON ME" kind of doppel

>High3 > Barb > Dop 3
Too many people are picking the first one so you pick this because you wanted to feel special "OH LOOK YOURE HIGH 3 BARB TOO!" its first one's little weaker brother but still good dps

>High 2 > Barb 2 > Dop 3
LELELELELELE! LOOK AT HOW SPECIAL I AM GUISE! LELELELELELE

>and wanted in guilds

diev 3
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>>156952150
Either barb3 or high3

barb2/high2 is trash. Personally I prefer hahamen, but barb is fucking popular nowadays and you prob should go for it.
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>>156952150
Why do people ignore the swordsmen buffs?
what happens if your clerics and buffers died in GvG? What then? You'll be stuck like sticky gits beside a sewage drain.
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>>156952406
>its first one's little weaker brother
Don't High3 skills scale better than Barb3 with power?
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>>156952514
no barb buffs scale in ktos too from 330 warcry to 660 at level 330

High 3s are cucks as a doppel, armor break is good and all but youl be basically helping everyone at WBs if you do that
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>>156952454
Yeah go and resu and heal them with your swordsmen buffs! That will surely help!
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>>156952514
Only on bleedable targets will High3 shine compared to Barb3.
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I haven't played since the start of open beta due to the lack of optimisation. Is it better now or is 2fpshoglan still a thing?
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>>156952651

Not him but is it still that you can't make every mob type bleed with cross cut?

Which makes no sense because other classes have bleeds which don't follow this rule at all.
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>>156952406
>>High 2 > Barb 2 > Dop 3
>LELELELELELE! LOOK AT HOW SPECIAL I AM GUISE! LELELELELELE
>>156952413
>barb2/high2 is trash
Isn't that the meta in ktos though
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>>156952617
How about doing more dmg without those cleric buffs?
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>>156952719
It's not, whoever misinfoed you, deleted them.

getting barb2high2 is handcapping yourself 2 times, for not getting max Warcry, neither getting Skull Swing.
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>>156952876

It's funny how in the early access I advocated both here and on forums how great Warcry is only to be shat on by you faggots.

Now it's all you rave about.
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hi, i just came back to the game. im wiz3 kino1 and full int
is there any chance i can salvage this into something currently viable
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>>156952876
but the two ktos doppel videos I've seen were high2barb2, the Devil from vonFreya's vid and some other guy doing 130k per skyliner on a glass mole
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>>156952909
but they buffed warcry and its better now than early access so what are you being so smug about?
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>>156952719
>Isn't that the meta in ktos though
That's a remnant from when Skyliner had 0 cd.
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>>156952979
Devil is a whale anon
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>>156952961
Go full con now and be a pvp god.
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Is this a new world boss or what?
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>>156953030

Not him but:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NudLB-Zxsw

This video is from 2 days ago.

It's funny how often cyclone hits on kTOS servers due to insanely low ping and better servers.

Also I just searched by date and this was like the 4th video (TOS 10 01, first of October) so it's pretty much a common meta based on this.

>>156953026
I was right so I have a right to be smug. It's scaling hasn't even changed that much.
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>>156953161
Oh wow haven't seen that guy in a while...heck I don't think I've seen one since beta. It's an Anti-bot boss that comes out once every thousand years I am pretty sure.
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>>156952909
There is a difference between doing it before it was cool and doing it before it was good.

>>156952876
Why do you want Skull Swing when you got that Zterchstwsjdfdj?
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>>156953092
what classes should i viably rank into
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>>156953170
the duration and cd changed. the scaling isnt in itos yet dumbass

>>156953278
>Why do you want Skull Swing when you got that Zterchstwsjdfdj?

Skull swing reduces armor to 0, Zwer doesnt
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>>156953170
That's a Sword2, and it's a pvp build

>>156953278
Skull Swing is literally 0 def, unlike Zwer.
>>
hey guys, what does "companion" mean on the skill simulator?
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>>156953278
Never said anything it being great in the past. Shouldn't even matter. That wasn't my point.

>>156953396
Again what it used to be and will be isn't relevant you retard. That wasn't my point.

>>156953396
Skull Swing isn't better than future Warcry anyway because there still isn't enough defense on monsters for it to matter. Not to mention Skull Swing is worthless in mobbing and world boss because you give the advantage to everyone, including archers and barb 3 doppels so you overall lose there.

>>156953430
False.
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>>156953485
Should mean your pet. Like Penguin, Hoglan, etc.
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>>156953515
False
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>>156953515
>Skull Swing isn't better than future Warcry anyway because there still isn't enough defense on monsters for it to matter.

War cry adds 660 damage at max level

Skullswing adds 1.5k damage on 315 dungeon
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>>156953557
Okay, thanks.
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>>156953584
False
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>>156953161

Antibot measure. Basically 1 shot kills you.

If he kills you your character dies in real life but if you kill him you get a super secret OP weapon.
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when is miko coming out
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>>156953731
>If he kills you your character dies in real life
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>>156953802

Why do you think the game has lost so many players?

The reaper got them!
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>>156953802
Yeah, like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlHhv0v7Ozk

If you're a swordsman you'll be sent to Hell where there are no campfires for you to sit on.
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Aggression should increase Fencer skills by 45% max but only if they do not equip a side weapon.

Restricting this attribute to Daggers while Shields are btfo is kind of stupid
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>>156953584
>War cry adds 660 damage at max level
Warcry was changed to scale with monster level, not to mention warcry scales with Deeds+Glass Moles

>Skullswing adds 1.5k damage on 315 dungeon
"no"


I love how there are people here blindly following the ktos meta. Remember how good QS, Chaplain and, to a lesser extent, Plague Doctor turned out to be?
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>>156954523
>Warcry was changed to scale with monster level, not to mention warcry scales with Deeds+Glass Moles

Warcry with Level 330 enemies gives 660 physical attacks
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>>156954603

Deeds and Moles buff that value up even further.

What's your point? What he said is still true.
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>>156954734
What the fuck are we arguing about?
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>"Guys, we buffed Swordman and they are top DPS now , what about buffing wizard DPS so they can stay competitive?"
>"nha Chong, lets buff Warcry"
>"Ok"
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>>156954420
>aggression
>shield

>>156954603
Unless they changed the per level scaling, which doesn't seem to be the case (https://tos-kr.neet.tv/skills/10405) it's 30 from lvl 10,30 from the attribute and another 33 from (monster lvl*0.1), so 93 per monster afflicted with the debuff. 5 would mean 465 and 10 would be 930.
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>>156954882

Problem with rank 8 wizards is they get no fucking damage dealing classes at rank 8.

They get a vendor, some kind of weird ass class that's only redeeming feature is a very limited Divine Might.
For higher circle classes Warlock gets utility, Featherfoot gets utility, Alchemist is a crafter class and Necromancer gets a new summon.

Every other class is getting those sweet 2394832094 base damage abilities and all Wizards getting is fucking utility and shit.

The class tree needs reorganizing.
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>>156954895
Fencing uses both shield and dagger, shield moreso
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>>156955065
The whole game needs rebalancing into the new model. Fuck, some skills have been unchanged from the fucking time where there was barely any scaling stuff in the game (Steady Aim being +x damage rather than +x% and whatnot).

Right now it seems like R8 just fucking puts all numbers on 99999, not even R7 was this bad, you could take earlier ranks and be fine. On the other hand, not taking R8 at R8 is like a fucking complete loss. It's like we had a massive gap from R3 to R4, I doubt anyone would want to roll anything but the current rank.
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>>156955075
The name of the attribute is Aggression though, doesn't it make sense that an attributel that increases damage requires you to ignore your shield?
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>>156955065
They still have no magical defense reducing ability.
Defense break status should drop both defenses to 0 at least.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H8dcjsX2ok&feature=youtu.be
what the fuck kind of builds are these i want to do this
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>>156955215
What? My dog is very aggressive, hes neither a fencer nor has a damn shield. give this guy a shield hed still be aggressive.

If were taking skill names to justify this then Fencer by name should'nt even have a side weapon which is what i said in my first post
>>
please rate: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/a18rtipk5t/
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>>156955065
Welcome to being the new Hahaman.

Enjoy.

Hope it doesn't break you and make you quit like those 5000 players.

You'll always have the forums to whine about. Here you will get no sympathy.
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>>156955223

Guy playing Sword3>Cata3>Dragoon>Lancer

Guy he's facing Sword3>Cata3>Dragoon2
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>>156955328
pretty shit if you ask me
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>>156955392

We'll be good again when rank 16 is added just you wait.
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>>156955579
Well what should be done? I went sword > pelt already and I want to end up in fencer.
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>>156955812
Reroll
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>>156955839
Then what's a better fencer build? I want to go solo at PvE since being in a party is too troublesome and laggy.
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>>156955210
as a full support priest, I give 0 fucks.
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WHY? JUST WHY? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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>>156955898
pelt barb3 is the cookie cutter

your skill points don't seem to be that good either
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>>156955962
im gon giv u a fuk bby
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THAT FUCKING CLAP
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>>156956013
n-no...
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>>156955979
HKKim here, thank you for reporting this. we will be looking shortly on the issue, and very happy to fix it for you. We are work hard and expect very updates on the following weeks. :happy:
We will be adding the fix this late September, make sure to keep tuned to watch the next update where we make fixes that you have requested.
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FUCKING IMC JUST LET ME IN ALREADY!
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>>156955992
I see. I actually considered that way first but then I wondered about my stats since this seems to be going to eat lots of SP.
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>>156942987
>Sugar is hardest to get so you'd probably have surplus of other ingredients when you finally get 5 sugars.

I have only ever gotten sugars and nothing at all else
>>
So wich RO server are we rolling on after ToS shuts down?
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>>156956657

I got tons of sugar and flour from doing missions. Haven't seen any other items drop.

Not like they're worth it. +25% exp for 30 minutes is fucking nothing.
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>>156956825

What is this item you guys keep talking about? Something you craft?

I quit some time ago and I'm just lurking and posting :3

miss ju gais
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>>156945683
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>>156956657
So I guess rates are different for everyone? I rarely get sugars,like I posted.

I'm more apt to find chestnuts or flour.
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>>156941418
>not using cafsum set when being 2 hand sword build
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>>156956825
Well, it's free bonus EXP and this game is really fucking dull so anything to help it.
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>>156956981

There is some shitty event happening right now. You can craft two items, one is trash the other gives you a minor exp boost for 30 minutes.

Only problem is grinding for the items is a pain in the ass. They got less than a 1% drop rate and you need I think a recipe + 20 items.
Shit's so annoying to farm they're being sold for 100+k on the market place.
>>
Anons is r8 coming this tuesday? i swear to god im so fucking bored now
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>>156957357
yes

heheehehe
>>
Should i be using Leather or Plate if i plan on making a Doppel?
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>>156958075
More often you should be going plate but it really depends on your build. Some Dex Dopples have went the Shade route and went leather.
>>
What is the new fancy way that the bots make their money?

I hear a lot of "legit botters" AFK with sorcerer summons in demon prison.

And no bans because dwindling population and no GMs.

Is this all true?
>>
>>156958227
yes. but know that there is a mafia that will use oracles to try and kill you when you're afk
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>>156958075
Dex doppels wont have enough evasion to actually dodge shit unless they go shade
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>>156958165
>>156958327
I see, i currently have 50 points invested into str right now, cant decide if i should pump some into con and the rest into dex
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>>156958293

So glad I quit this game.
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>>156958668
you're still in these threads
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>>156958710
just for today don't worry anon
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>>156958668
I see nothing wrong with murdering bots or afkers
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>>156958865
>I see nothing wrong with bots or afkers
???
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>>156958857
isn't that we all say.

"its just for today"
"i already uninstalled it"
"its just one mission"
"im just checking it"
"he hasn't been beating me with a broken bottle or a belt anymore and i can't feel the burns from his cigarette anymore we can work through this"
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>>156958959
My last login was in June~July. I came back today to check up. Sorry that I don't fit your bubble.
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>>156958949
>Anon is dyslexic

Kill the bots you faggot
Roll an oracle
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>>156959096
sure thing, thats the same for us all
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>>156959323

oh no

it's retarded
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Uhmm, where can I find a cute cleric(male)?
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I'm scared bros, R8 wont save this game from being a dull chore, R8 would only create buzz for 1 to 3 months with all the new content and and combinations of classes but all those things that is coming with r8, all those can be exhausted in a short amount of time then we'd be back to where were at now, nothing to do, boring events, and daily chores.

This game needs more substance, more flare, and one of the ways that could be brought back is to remove neutrality, every game needs its drama in doses
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>>156959575
didnt mean to trigger you bby, thought u were just messing around

hope u take my apology to heart, i really didnt want to make u feel this sad.
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>>156959173
This. Please save Telsiai: the bots are useless anyway.

Also report that motherfucker that kept selling silver. I thought rl transactions aren't allowed?
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>>156958621
Honestly, I believe everyone for the most part should have con stated. Late game monsters, especially magic, start hitting really hard. 60 is the minimum I do on my characters for con but it's up to you.
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>There's costumes for a class' third circle
>They aren't rewarded for reaching circle 3 in that class
>Have to be bought instead and can be used without even having the class it's mean for

Why call it x circle3 but it's not given to you at circle3, or at least restricted on who can get it
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>>156960454
But it is restricted?????
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>>156960454

>That feel when you just know Thaumaturge 3 costume is going to look the best in the game
>And even though you sacrificed an entire character to go Thaumaturge 3 any old slut will be able to buy and use the costume once it's added

Fucking IMC and their fetish for sports cars.
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>>156960454
>>156960904
You need to be 3 circle into that class to use those costumes.
Only a Thaum3 will be able to use the future Thaum3 costume, unless they'll change it.
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>>156961028
I can equip Highlancer c3 costume on my High>Barb 3
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>>156960784
>>156961028
I swear I saw someone in a wizard3 costume who didn't have it

I'm just upset none of these are rewards so they actually would be restricted
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>>156961420
Post pic then.
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>>156959712
This.

Come r8 there would only be enough content to last a few months then 6 months of dailies again
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>>156959712
>one of the ways that could be brought back is to remove neutrality, every game needs its drama in doses
What if you don't care about people you don't personally interact with and consider pvp boring?
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>>156964265
Then your guild will handle it and carry your ass
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>>156964323
What's the point of joining a guild if you didn't want to pvp? You could just whisper/group chat/party chat people without having to have your gameplay interrupted by morons.
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>>156964531
muh friend
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>>156959712
>>156964323
>>156964531

If Neutrality was removed, who would you like to war-dec and why?
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RANDYBK EXPOSED

His name isn't Randy Burger King.

It's Random Bad Kid.
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>>156959096
Came back Cel
>>
Does magic arrow have aoe ratio?
Or it only hits one thing?
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#311555e9.1a23354a5161.15253548526a7585.1121354365.152535

Don't know shit about sapper skills, is this good?
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>>156966821
>rogue at r7
why
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>>156966821
Don't take rogue, especially that late in the game
Pick falconer for R7 and 8, or go musketeer/cannoneer

I tried
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#311555e.1a23354a5161.354f6a7a85.1121355563
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>>156967142
>detonate 15
>no stockades or claymore
what are you doing

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#311555e.1a25334a5161.1f2331416a7a85.112135455162

if you are taking falc 3 for the memes, don't take hovering at all
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>Finally rank 7 class level 15

The suffering is over.

Now I hope rank 8 never gets added so I don't have to do anything ever again.
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>>156967086
Capture, i think circling early is better
>>156967496
Don't plan to take falco3, unless it's good with sapper. Planning Mergen at r8.
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Has anyone tested out how strong Kaloo hammer on a Priest3 Spr Sadhu+Chaplain is? I imagine the damage is pretty nice but nothing crazy.
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Cel i know you are lurking.
Come back, save me from going Alchemist for the guild for when our other alchemist is offline, let me go Wiz1Cryo1Link2Sorc2Lock2
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>>156969167
Does OOB even benefit from extra lines and blessing?
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>>156965859
who?
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Where do I enter missions at?
I just reached level 100 and want to do them for cute subweapons
>>
Thinking about making a doppel

Do they get double saalus cubes with DPE?
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>>156970106
no
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>>156969912

Wrong type of mission you're thinking about. Come back in like 140 more levels.
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>>156969647
Fat capybara!
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>>156970310
I still have to do these for exp, where do I find it?
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>>156970567

Fedimian

Right here.

Don't get your hopes up though, not many people queue up now and you might end up searching for a real long time at your level.
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>>156970567
Fedimeme Mercenary Post
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>>156970567
Fedimian inside a building. Finding a queue for lvl 100's isn't the quickest at times but it is not impossible. Don't spend all day queuing though. Just check later in the day if you have no luck.
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>>156969912
>cute subweapons
Those are party quest, you have a very little change to get one of them though.
Like, extremely little.

The fastest way is to make a party, take a quest and then disband it until you get the quest you want.
You want either Enemy's Smell, which is just kill a boss, or Disapparence, which is teleport in a couple of maps and kill some low level mobs.
Take the first if you're a dps, the second if not.
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>two rogue skills want bleeding status for bonus effects
>really sub par bleeding effects
>the only bleeding skill a rogue build might ever have is a chance on hit from Deploy Pavise
Why not make Backstab inflict bleeding so its actually useful

Why not smash Kim's face into a keyboard until he finally understands how mind blowingly retarded Vendetta is

t. asshurt rogue
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What is in Mullers Passage and why are there warning signs?
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>>156971048
But that wont help prevent more bots
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>>156971048
Bayonet Thrust can bleed too with the attribute, at a 10% chance :^)

Rogue is a fucking mess of a class, People should either take Rogue1 and stop there or not take Rogue at all.
t. fellow asshurt Rogue
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>>156971147
Do NOT go in there.
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>>156971048
Just get a shark cutter and take Hackapelle, then you can finally inflict bleed easily.
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What builds can be taken with Highlander3?
I'm really conflicted on going doppel but I don't know what other choices there are
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>>156971645
Ask ingame.
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Is Sarah Ragnarok a good server?
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>>156971449
Are shark cutters expensive?
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>>156971645
Ask the rodent
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Help!
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>>156972258
Prove it.
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>>156971147
>What is in Mullers Passage
Nothing... Only death...
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>>156972292
I know what cums next
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What can I go farm that there aren't 500 faggots there farming it too or questing and getting in my way?
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>>156972715
Reinstall then
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>>156970723
Are all missions the same?
What do I pick for leveling?
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>>156973512
I mean items btw
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>>156974037
People only do siauliai because they are lazy.
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>>156974037
Very first mission is all people do unless you can get people to run any of the others with you.

First mission is quick, easy, and has a cute bear in it.
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>>156972203
I have only ever seen one like once, it drops off Mirtis so basically yeah it's expensive as fuck and rare wasn't being serious.
>>
>Basecamp extends everything like forever. Even your Boner.
>Swaaz the only viable class
This is getting ridiculous.
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I'm not in FP so I have a question for everyone who is
How do you like your pizzas? Be very specific about this
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>>156975640
cheese ofc

and 2D
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>Haven't even spent TP from beta yet.
>Considering using it on tokens because of token prices
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>>156975640
Pesto base with veggies is great.
>>
Fencer is Gallant

Doppel is Goofus
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So im a pelt1 barb1, when do swordies become fun?
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Wheres the best place I can farm Sapphire?
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>>156977286
>this game
>fun
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>>156975783
You can do better than just cheese

>>156976160
You'll have to share that with me!
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>>156978225
Nah buddy. flat young pizza is best
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Is there anyone even going for the Lancer class? I have heard absolutely nothing about it ever since people found out how strong Dethrone and Dragoon's melee buffs are.
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>>156978516
Fencer is hurr

Doppel is durr

Lancer is whocares
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Do R8 weapons make Briquetting worth it?
>>
Been away for months. Is the game better now?
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>>156979304
you are just going to leave again...
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>>156979413
I miss my guild already. I wonder if it's dead by now.
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>>156979187
No. You're not gonna take that risk on weapons that are crafted with materials that cost 10 to 50m.
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>>156979742
No one would even buy mats for that much to begin with so they won't be that much.
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Did IMC fix exp tomes so that they give the bonus to the overall amount yet?

I thought I read somewhere that they were doing that.
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>>156979943
They did.
in Korea.
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POST SPOOKY
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>>156979943
Not yet.
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So what's the thing bots use to auto whisper you?
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>>156979615
What guild?
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>>156981195
Comfy
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>>156981413
pretty alive
though its midnight and wage slaves are sleeping
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>enter dungeon to solo it for cash
>disconnected 10 seconds in
>run gone
ahahaha right on my dude Kim
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>>156983632
and that's why i dont solo run them
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>>156983632
>4 days left on event reset scrolls
>Was falling dead asleep near the end of first run yesterday

I need to go do some rushes or something. I'm just not cut out to solo.
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>>156972263
This pic is making me laugh for some reaso
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Hammy food?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUpQSEVmjvE
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>>156986636
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>>156979943
We should get that along with kTOS changes on the next big patch.
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>>156986636

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE8qhT-MDC8
>>
>Token benefits
>30% experience gain, but calculated in the same way as EXP tomes (i.e. fucking useless)
>ONE (1) more dungeon and mission run
>do not get half my money stolen on the market which I don't use all that often
Am I really just paying 1 million silver a month for temporary wind runners?
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>>156986636
After Capybara's food
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaLGdRx7prA
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>>156987948
Team Storage.
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>>156987948
The biggest things are
>Team storage
>Instant attributes
Also trading doesn't make all of your shit untradable

>>156988310
I never realized how big capybaras are until I came here
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anyone have the timer on ellaganos?
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>>156988310
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTk688cXTsA
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>>156988761
If klai, someone shouted it yesterday
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>>156988761
Are you a cute boy?
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>>156988945
I didn't see the shout! Does anyone have it today?
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>>156988310
>>156988906
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41Ac3qis7zE
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>>156989213
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>156989213
Please, do not bully or eat capybaras like some South Americans do, thanks
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Stop posting weird doggos. Post birds instead. Birds make me happy.
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>>156989808
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLL6zl2_isU
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>>156989972

There is a family of baby swans near where I live.

Everytime I go out there is always one less baby swan than there was the last time. There is only like 2 left now.
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>>156989972
What's up with japs and capybaras, like seriously?
>>
What armor pieces
-reduce- SP?

Is there anything like them?
I cant search in databases for negative values
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>>156991194
Pretty sure it's only Maga rod, you can search descending by SP on tosbase and go to the last page and Maga Rod's the only thing that shows up as well as some unimplemented armor.
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>>156989808
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uhmmm
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wtf

i love capy now
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>>156988945
>Kirito shouts Ella to show off all the recent RMT he's done on his Fletcher
>Still can't get rank 1

Can't make this shit up
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Two newfriends looking for a home, any guild leaders on?
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So how do swordies deal with magic damage?
>>
>>156996182
What do you mean?
>>
>>156996182
Like every other classes.
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>>156996296
like do swordies have anything to help with all the horrible magic damage from the late game maps?
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>>156996798

3x as much health as any other class?

Almost no classes get any way of dealing with those fucking mage mobs that hit like a train. Swordsmen at least have a ton of health.
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>>156996182
With bullshit boots that make them immune to magic

http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/512204/
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>>156994258
>recent
Nah, it was a while ago before world boss debuff that he RMT'd a fletcher to MA lvl 100, still couldn't cube, then rage sold all his archer's gear.

Although if this is happening again that's even more hilarious.
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>>156997016
>Physical Defense -65
It's okay
That's okay
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>>156996798
Shock status (Zornhau, Crown, Dragon Soar)
Superior Korvos Greaves
1hand sowrd lads will get those new ones with +100-300 mdef
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>>156998139

Physical defence is a lot easier to get than magic defence. And there is always a bunch of people selling priest buffs in town anyway so you can get a bonus 52% physical defence.
>>
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3111.1f25334f516175

This is my build so far, full dex, don't know what get in the next ranks that is not the Scout3Farmer
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>>156998663
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#311155ee.1f25334f516175
Have fun with Multishot15 under Circling/Aiming.
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>>156989781
But they're just like pigs: can be food or pet.
Capybara should be bred everywhere.
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>>156999304
but they are so cute
I bet you're Paraguyan
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>>156999304
That kinda looks tasty.
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>>156999620

You look kind of tasty.
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>>156998305
That feel when no one with level 17 aspersion was around earlier so I decided to just play later.
I fell asleep and dreamed about buying lower level aspersions for dozens of ks without bothering to check the price before hand. I just kept buying them to test them out and see which ones had a shorter duration before I realized it.
One guy had glitched out the prices of his skills with like letters or some dark smudge overwriting them so you couldn't tell how much you were paying for his skills, but you still knew it was some bullshit price like 72000. I barely noticed the skill was level 9.
I eventually woke up and went back to playing the game. I can buy level 17 aspersions again and did so, but then I remembered the dream when I read your post and shuddered.
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ANY TIPS?
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>>157000996
Get a Linker3 Full Dex to suck your cock.
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>>157000996
Grab a team
>>
Does anyone on Klaipeda have these recipes?
>>
>>156996142
Did you guys get picked up already?
>>
>>157001383

I have a catapult.
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>>157001383
I think I have them all. All I have to do is go get the collection boxes.
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>>157000996
Have fun not hitting anything with dex in pvp
>>
>scroll up
>some ohayou killed rance while he was at bees
>17 messages of rance killing them right after
>killed someone else 2 times too
remind me not to fuck with bee farmers
>>
>>156996142
Is that the name of one of the dot hack stages?
>>
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4112bbb.1a213a435561.14213545.122f3f42516575

Help me build a shitdin, i guess Dex is the way right?
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>>156996142
>Cata
>Meme
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>>157001987
>physical paladin
>smite 2/15
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>>157002524
I don't now shit about Paladin, so if you help me and stop implying shit i would like.
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>>156999413
Filipino actually. Went around South America as part of a charity, feeding poor people.
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>>157002680
I would, if didn't sound like some poofter
>>
Do status like freeze or stun work on bosses?
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>>157003771
Only on some story bosses
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>>157003771
Some do, some don't. Silence, Stun, Freeze, Stonecurse....the basic stuff doesn't work on bosses. More specific debuffs such as Armor Break, damage increasing debuffs,and bleeding works.
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What quest do I need to complete to get the pink hair color?
I finished everything given to me in the owl burial ground
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>>157004743

It's one of the hidden quests, its give by some grave keeper guy. I don't remember his exact name.

The quest involves killing a bunch of monsters in 2 minutes, shouldn't be hard.
>>
>>157004743
Talk to Gravekeeper Romas near the middle of the map. He won't be there though if you don't have at least 100 points invested in at least one stat, iirc.
>>
What happens if you use oracle skills Clairvoyance/Resetting on a silver or gold mob?
>>
>>157005248
Nothing, white/gold mobs have fixed unchangeable drops.
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>>157005312
So what will you see when you use the skills on them?
>>
>>157005312
Also if their drops are fixed, why do they sometimes give less or 0 drops
>>
>>157005912
I'm not sure what happens if you look at the drops with CV, but white mobs won't give their drops to you if it spawns in your line of sight. Dunno why but that seems to be how it works.
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>>157006753
I dunno, the "waiting for it to charge" theory seems to work for me, even if it spawns next to me.
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>token prices
This is illegal!
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>>157007615
People can easily make lots of silver running dungeons now, which leads to inflation
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>>157007819
Don't push your weird fetishes on me
>>
Sawai, please restock
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> 3 out of 5 for level 90 dungeon for the past 10 minutes
>>
>>157007819
It's not inflation, the dungeons were like this before they were nerfed for a while. It's that no one is buying tokens anymore really and those that wanted them still have dozens because it's really only been 6 months of release even though it feels like this game has been shit for 2 years.
>>
What is the optimal class for solo farming 145 dungeon? I really need silver.
>>
>>157001383
>>157001712

Oops, missing one.
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>>157009695
qs3sr, scout 3
>>
What's people's problems with the penguin?
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=59385781
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>>157010956
lol
>>
Can you set up a buff shop and Oblation/donation box at the same time?
>>
I dont understand

Do pierce attacks do more damage on leather when they're missile or not?
I seem to do the same damage on Golem as I do on Glassmole/Poata
>>
>>157011684
I don't thinkyou can on the same char
>>
>>157011684
Pretty sure any account can only have 1 afk shop open at a time.
>>
Oh right party quests will come at your level. Do those creatures drop items? Which one was the one where you had to kill things for like 20 minutes?
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>>157011772
>Do pierce attacks do more damage on leather when they're missile or not?
eiether theyre missile or pierce, I don't get you
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>>157008351
the fuck is this shitty tumblr version of the original image
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>>157011772
Missile Attacks may or may not have a pierce property. Normal attacks are just missile, while Barrage is Pierce AND Missile.
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>>157001519
nah, go head and inv PocketSpaghetti and FrownTown whenever you get the chance.
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>>157012493
I whispered both in Klaipeda just now. You're in Klaipeda, right?
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>>157012630

>Archer with no SP and refusing to use a potion

LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE MISSION RUN

THEN THE CHEAP ASS FUCKS STICK DOWN A CAMPFIRE AND SIT AROUND IT IN THE MIDDLE OF A BOSS FIGHT
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>>157012405
Yeah but my skills do the same damage on plate and leather
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>>157012493
>>157001519
Ohayou recruiting its two newest members
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>>157013009
t. missinfo

We are full.
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>>157012858
I think ts only when they get a debuff like lethargy, spear lunge
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Will I be hated if I rolled this priest3 pardoner3 build https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41222aaa.15243541.1f3f415a6191a2.2a3545558a95
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>>157013085
What other guild would accept such horrible names?
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>>157013636
probably all in OP >>156895139
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>>157013439
Looks like any other pardoner to me
You jew
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>Storyteller
>A title given to people who have met 100 NPCs.
Is this title actually in game? I'm pretty sure I've meet over 100 of 'em.
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>>157013636
I'm sure all one FOE members would accept them
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>>157014517
Want to come into the guild tower and tell everyone a story then?
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>>157013439
I would max increase mdef over 10 points in Indulgentia but that's just me.

Also don't get any silly ideas of having your main character be a Pardoner, it doesn't really work out well.
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These are your forum goers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b4nAAky5Ow
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https://tos.neet.tv/skills/40405

neet.tv says Carve Owl is Physical Strike, but I know for certain that you can block the green breath it blows with Slithering(it shows Miss, not Block or Evade). So, which is it?
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>>157016215
>ESLs
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>>157016252
It's a magic attack, but the range of carving the statue is melee so the game defines it that way.
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>>157016252
You can hit people when you put down the statues I'm pretty sure, which is what it means
the fire is magic though
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>>157016437
I've seen non-natives here with a better english than many Americans
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>>157017132
You obviously aren't one of them.
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>>157017294
Never said I was one of them.
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Post boys.
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When are they going to convert Miners Village and the mini villages at Spring Light Woods into sub towns? The one that Suiseseki's people live at should be one too. Give 'em a tavern and a repair shop or something. The people in that Orsha village are merchants, so they should have something to sell you. Could even have more quests to find more people to get more stuff sold. The Spring Light Woods town could convert medus into mead or something that's a buff. Miner's village could just feature some merc post like tavern with missions to do raids on the vubbe camps.

There's so many towns the game isn't doing anything with.
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>>157019037
Taverns never. We've been asking for roleplaying gimmicks like inns since the first beta. IMC doesn't care for it.
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>>157019658
I don't really mean roleplaying taverns, I mean places to get party quests and daily quests, and maybe food based buffs like the squires do. Like you could buy your party a big meal and everyone's buffed with some second row buff for 3 hours or buy a drink for yourself and have some buff for a half hour.

I mean it'd be nice if they added sitting animations LIKE THE ONES THEY ALREADY HAVE IN THE CHARACTER SELECT SCREEN so you could sit around the table in the taverns too but it's more like this game has too few cities but lots and lots of towns people are living in.
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Welcome to the Oracle club.
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You guys might think you got low populations.

Just look at this and realize it's not as bad as you think.
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>>157020949
No man's shit deserves dying, anon, let go of it
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>>157020259
how to make chars in lodge sit?
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Am I supposed to do the entire 145 dungeon solo for money or just rush the boss
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>>156922093
nope.
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>>157021127
I don't think you can. I mean in the new character selection screen, the one with the bar and dog.
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>>157021126
>let go of it
why are you peeps so autistic in this general?
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>>157021149
Whole dungeon. Bosses barely matter. You can't rush the boss anyway, as far as I know.
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>>157021425
can any class do it, or do i need to make something specific?
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>>157021405
>Telling you to move on makes me autistic
???
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>>157020949
>it's not as bad as you think.
It's not as bad as people think anyway, since it just shows people playing at once, not the total number playing. Given people don't play 24 hours a day usually, there's like at least twice whatever it says is the average if you assume people will be able to play 12 hours.
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>>157020714
Th-thank you...

Land's sake, switching from of the saintly, modest, church-approved attire of a holy Priest3 Nun into THESE skimpy-as-sin robes is one hell of a paradigm shift.
Feels like I've forsaken every last ounce of piousness from my body in favor of becoming a bloody streetwalker. The once-kindly deities above are likely gazing down upon this terrible turn of events, sighing and shaking their heads in unison, wondering where it all went wrong for such a promising soul.

The Oracle Master also hit like a wet noodle during the Class Change quest. Foreshadowing for what's to come, perhaps?

I'm sure welcoming a Literal Who into the skimpy-dress club won't make much sense to anyone on the outside, but appreciate the well-wishing all the same, m8.
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>>157021558
Iunno. Missions and dungeons aren't as hard as you think, even solo. Groups just make them not take the full hour you have to clear them.

Compared to 130, it doesn't have a lot of annoying magic mobs, but it does have pumpleflaps and those mage things from ameleth. As long as you can kill flying things as well as ground things, you'll be fine. Preferably have some hard hitting aoe to finish them off quickly.

It's probably better if you're a mounted class because you have to do a lot of running and clear it in a specific way.
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>>157021651
Why are oracles just recolored necros with less skulls?
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Master of /Vg/

I want to play this game but steam says im in the wrong region and wont even let me add it to my library.
do you know any way around this?

HALP please.... im sick of Overwatch
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Those more detailed male NPC faces look kinda weird
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>>157022971
That's how it is with anime. Being a girl makes your face less detailed.
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>>157022845
What region, are you korean?
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>not having a Squire waifu to cook you ultra long duration dumplings
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>>157023213
Im american living in japan.
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>>157023343
Then you can't play steam version. gotta go http://tos.nexon.co.jp/players
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>>157023417
>http://tos.nexon.co.jp/players
i can't read moon runes
and i have done the same thing with Vindictus before. dont i just need it in my library and run it from Steam apps?
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>>157023537
>living in japan.
>i can't read moon runes
You some sort of masochist?
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>>157023537
The versions are different for korea/japan/everywhere else
I think you'll be stuck with moon unless you change the region
How are you living there if you can't understand the language?
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>>157023795
I wonder if he's in the military, being useless and raping Okinawans
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>>157023590
>>157023795
im here for work and i can speak it albeit at a elementary level. I cannot read Kanji.

so your saying there is no way to get the Eng ver. While on japanese internet?
I hate you Nexon... i hate you so much. I guess ill just go die now in Dark Souls

>>157024032
no i work in Fukuoka
im a english teacher
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>>157024153
How's Nipland bud?
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WTB cute plague doctor bf
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>>157024153
I don't know if it'd work to just change the download region on steam and see if it works getting it like that, I'm an idiot on this sort of thing
Good luck in your work
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>>157024153
lovely
i travel to a different country every few months.
people are some of the nicest on the planet. not many complaints except for the stares. Im a black guy and many havent seen one in real life so i am always getting pointed at and gawked at.

women are alright too.
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>>157024716
>On 4chan
>Thinks he gets "pointed at and gawked at" only because he is black
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is sword3>cata3>dragoon2 a fun build to play with

i hate the fuck out of every archer/mage class i've tried, but clerics have been fun
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>>157025178
Sword C3 is not fun at all. There's just restrain there. That's it.

Cata is fun. It's the fastest class in the entire game, even faster than all those faggot ass whore mages with their shitty magic.

Cata is full of fake multihit abilities. It's a weak PvE class.

Dragoon 2 is just burst shit down. Not really sustainable DPS unless you're deep into hoplite.

If you like PvP your build is cookie cutter. You run into people and spin them to death unless they're some faggot ass unique full dex build, they die. Lag is always on your side because of how earth wave works and dragoon skills.

PvE however is boring as fuck as a Catagoon.
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>spend an hour farming for some really awesome boots
>got it finally
>hey what's that little line of text say at the bottom
>Swordsman Only
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>>157025453

rush is almost a frost cloud with 32 hits, that's far from being weak, lol
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>>157025453
there's a giant time investment involved if i end up not liking a class, would you recommend this to someone who has never reached endgame, or should I focus on a PvE build first? if so, anything in particular?
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>>157020949
No Man's Sky is a single player game, who the fuck cares about the population
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>>157026151

Depends on how far you're planning on playing the game. If you're brand new it's good to have a few classes that are lethal but not silver sinks. A few characters who can farm and get you wealth.

Catagoon pretty much is a 3 skill wonder before rank 7. Dragoon skills unlock a lot of fun for you. Before those abilities you simply are a hit and run fast as a bullet class who has 0 mana all the time. You're dependant on sipping mana all the time unless you have mana regen hats and don't mind sitting down.

Rush eats up your entire mana bar in one go and if you enable attributes it's an almost 1 minute cooldown ability (50 seconds). It's the only real multi-hit ability in Cata's arsenal.

Attribute costs are heavy to disable knockdowns which people will whine to you about in dungeons. It's not too bad though.

Every class in end game has massive money sinks in attributes and gear upgrading, so you can't escape that. Cata can't AoE solo farm without some pretty OP gear and while leveling you will be struggling to cover your sippy costs for SP pots.

Other than that the class is low maintenance. Free stats from pet and fast speed makes it pretty impossible for you to die. Exploring maps and questing is by far the fastest in all the classes. Most speedrunners used Cata to speed run the game because you can 100% maps in seconds while for others it takes minutes of boring slow walking. Trot has 100% uptime at level 15 so you will never go slow. Death is never an issue.

I recommend Cata for people who aim to PvP. If you go Sword C3 you're no tank to people. You're just a weakish AoE and stunlocker who has an IV of SP running through her veins.

In PvP only a select few classes pose you a threat and they are one hit wonders. PvE right now I don't think parties would mind you at all. You have the highest evasion potential to gain in the swordsman tree with highest speed (provided you go pelt C1 for guardian) unless you count fencers.
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Do you miss Koening yet?
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What are good synergies with Mergen?
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>>157025453
Do fake multihit skills still proc blessing on every fake hit?
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>>157027132
No. Just once. Same with concentration. Only Rush gets it every hit.

However all Dragoon hits are multi-hits, so I wouldn't worry about that.
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>>157025523
The ones in >>156997016?
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Coming from Ragnarok Online if there's one thing this game needs it's more CLASS specific stuff. I'm not talking Archer/Cleric/Swordsman/Wizard.

I'm talking gear only for a Kabbalist or Schwarzer Reiter. There's an ice rod in the game for Cryomancers, but there's need to be more of this stuff.

Anyone else agree?
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>>157026887
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>>157026826
sounds ok to me, i probably have enough silver saved from other classes for sp pots. What kind of stat build would you recommend, if i'm just gonna be going for pvp? also thank you very much for being so articulate, you answered a lot of my questions
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>>157026887
Still think Suras look cooler
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>>157027409
How the fuck would that even work? There's already attributes and skill gems. What more could be built upon?
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>>157027409
I agree, but instead of just boring "add 2 levels to a skill" effect they have they could be more unique like the Bokor mace.
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>>157027818
I could type up so many ideas like this anon said: >>157027896

But it's wasted effort because even if I sent it in to IMC I doubt they'd add it, but I just want more stuff liek the Krausas Mace for ~all~ classes.
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>>157027818
He probably means like Ludas staffs and Kaloo hammers
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>>156952710
>Not him but is it still that you can't make every mob type bleed with cross cut?
Unless they buffed it, no.
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>>157027653
I'm an on the fence returner. I quit before PvP arena's were implemented but was part of the GvG wars.

All I know about PvP is that DEX is very important for a Catagoon. You need it for evasion, critical chance but mostly for accurancy. Most archers, and other swordies, will be heavily dex focused and if you have no dex you will miss all your hits. Nothing more frustrating than getting close to an archer over his caltrops and not being able to even hit them. Some CON too I suppose but it's up to you. CON gives critical resist but not in volumes so it is not that important.

Mages and clerics all die at same speeds, regardless if you're high STR or DEX. I can't give you a solid answer as I made my Catagoon focus PvE with a slice of PvP (Pelt>Hop>Cat3>Drag). Basically all the hoplite skills are garbage in PvP (except Finestra which gives free AoE ratio and crit rate) and Pelt is only useful for shield blocking (when another cata rushes you) and guardian for 18% evasion. I went with heavy DEX but small amounts of STR and CON. Again, I wasn't a min max PvPer so you'll have to ask someone else what is a very good PvP build for your spec.

Good luck. Don't expect to what the fuck own everyone, but don't be surprised most glass cannon builds out there die to 1 earth wave + 1 dragoon skill. Dragoon C2 will make you an even deadlier fast burst character, so you're futureproof for PvP. Just hope you don't meet a snowflake full dex corsair out there.
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>>157027409
I want a shield that reduces shield lobs cd and increase its damage a la spear throw
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>>156952150
High 3 > Barb > Dop 3 > Get Dop 3 attributes > Skill Reset > Class reset into High 3 > Barb 2 > Dop 2
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>>157028668

>giving up deeds 15 for seism and warcry 5

lol
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>>157028668
>Class Resets

This would be the last straw for me. I'd quit.
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>>157025523
fuck swordfags
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Does the Agni necklace increase the power of enchant fire auto attacks or the explosion from the elementalist pyro attribute?
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Is it even worth transcending a venier? if you transcend a level 15 venier youd only get 30 damage though?
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>>157028957
I'm on the fence about transcending too. I wish I had a spada
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>>157028668
>knowing how unreleased item works and how it is restricted

very impressive, my friend. i bet your mom works at IMC
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>>157029310
Youll lose 200 damage overall if you use spada
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Which skill should I use Preparation on?

Balestra which would deal 22k with Prep

or

Fleche which would deal 17k with prep but has 3 chances to crit?
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>>157030454

>22k

lol

much more, 130k easily

with enough physical attack and shit, maybe sept is still worth
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>>157030454
what the fuck are those skills lmao what kind of gay class do you play
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>>157030608
I was talking about skill base damage
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>>157030769
It's the fletchercucks I assume
He seems to be talking about prepping something
most likely his bull
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>he thinks his mage will matter at all at R8

chrono or gtfo my party lmao
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>>157030878
What if my support mage has Linker3 and Enchanter but no Chrono?
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Snow roll away
>>157031007
>>157031007
>>157031007
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Umm why aren't there any potions in Klai?
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