/twg/ - Total War General

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IF YOU IZ TA BECOME WARBOSS
MIL'TRY RULER OF ALL JAPAN

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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ROME...

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>>156958319
Rollan!

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It is now October. The sallow season deepens its hold on Athel Loren. It is a dark time, a time of mourning. As the spites and spirits of the forest grow slothful and recalcitrant, the enemies of the Asrai seek to defile the sacred glades. Gorposting is rampant. The Deep Thinking Goblin looms, esoteric and obscene. Athel Loren is a realm under siege. The King of the Woods cannot be found; the kinbands are scattered and given over to dissolute indulgence, pursuing until the last comfort over exertion.

Yet it is comfort itself that is imperiled; Should the Asrai fade from the Old World the beauty of their existence, a recordless history of leisure and frivolity without equal, will disappear, leaving the clamoring, scrabbling bustle of the outside world without counterpoint or enlightening example. It is a dark time. But even in the deep gloom of autumn, a hope flickers. A whisper on the winds, melodious like the clinking of tea cups on saucers.

Wood Elves soon.

G O B L I N S

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>>156958405
>tfw custom advisors never

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Why do I love Vlad so much?
It's pretty simple when I think about it.
Vlad isn't just the best character in the Warhammer world, he might just be the greatest character of all time.
Just imaging him riding through the swamps of Sylvania, the wind in his hair, his mighty steed below him.
As he rides through the World's Edge Mountains, the Lahmians swoon at his very scent.
They know how he smells, the essence of his smell is sold in Marienburg under the the name of "Carstein Orgasm."
The very nature of Vlad is mystery.
Could he be playing a deeper game than even his creator realizes?
The answer is yes, he has transcended such boundaries as the written world, and has free will to do whatever he sees fit.
However, Vlad is filled with such guile, such arcane craft that he does not even use these powers.
Why, you might ask? You will never know, for the mind of the Vlad is not one that is easily penetrated.
Vlad is such a force of nature in his realm that nothing can truly touch him, the only thing keeping him bound to the page at all is his will to exist within the preordained boundaries of his world.
Vlad is not only beyond the comprehension of us, he exists within a plane of true focus and beauty.
Observe his playful smile, his gorgeous and rippling biceps, his gallant nose, and most importantly, his eyes.
His eyes, like pools of saffron, provide the only glimpse into the true machinations of Vlad. Do not stare into them. Many good men have gone mad in the attempt.
Vlad is not just a character, a formless collection of words and images, he is himself is the binding that holds the Warhammer world together.
Without Vlad, the entire Warhammer world, the entire Games Workshop as we know it crumbles.
The Reik would stop flowing without Vlad, Athel Loren would become a desolate crater, and Norsca would melt without his frosty gaze.
These are just of a few of the reasons why I like Vlad so much.

>>156958653
If Vlad is so cool why didn't he get any mounts?

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Grace :3

>>156958464
roll

>>156958803

>Piercing
>Hipster glasses

How to spot crazy

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G O B L I N S

>>156958845
would still hammer her anvil, if you know what I am saying

>>156958845
you forgot
>Dyed hair

>>156958637
Never say never
Although I don't personally mind advisor-kun, I like the little faction introductions

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>no AE
>no DLC

>>156958803
fucking slut whore, I bet she sucked off every guy there after taking that photo

>>156958924
thanks

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>>156959097
Grace is pure PURE!

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Is there anyone in the Warhammer (including 40k) world who has bigger horns than Archaon?

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>no wood elves
>no DEI 1.2
>no FOTE update
>no 1212 AD campaign release
>no AE campaign release
>no Bronze age release
>no LOTR mod release
>no GoT release

>>156959208
Imagine his neck gains trying to keep that stable.

>>156959169
that was 3 years ago before her first black-white gangbang

>>156959208
No one as edgy as Archaon so probably no.
Btw those horns looks very uncomfortable i alredy feel pain in my neck

>>156959301
yet /twg/ still lives on!

>>156959208
Where did he get them from, anyway?

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>>156958493
>It is now October. The revolution deepens its hold on Kislev. It is a hopeful time, a time of spontaneous self-organisation. As the muzhyks and ungols of the taiga grow drunken and bellicose, the enemies of the Gospodars seek to defile the sacred bear cavalry enclosure. Sacking spam is rampant. Ostermark looms, counterrevolutionary and white. Kislev is a realm under sedition. The Tzarina cannot be found; she has been ported off to Fort Ostrosk and shot; the hussars are scattered and given over to razing newly subjugated Norscan villages. Yet it is the love of Motherland itself that is imperiled; Should the Gospodars fade from the Old World the drabness of their existence, a recordless history of raiding Norsca and not being in the Empire without equal, will disappear, leaving the clamoring, scrabbling bustle of Archaon cheesing horde growth without decision by committee or revolutionary violence. It is a red time. But even in the rigid historical materialism of Kislevite critical theory, externalities persist. A whisper on the barley crop, sickly like the clinking of improvised vodka glasses on tables.

Kislev soon.

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'They are fluid as a stream and just as ever changing. No one shape can contain their essence for long, so they shift from one form to another, dancing even while they are standing still. They are the pulse of the forest, wild and fierce by turns, followed by pensive calm. One moment they are as hard as an Ash, shrugging off blows that could fell an Ogre, the next they are as supple as a reed, bending around their opponent’s weapons as they giggle or mock his discomfiture. My fellows and I have often talked about why they never hold to one form for long. The general consensus is that they easily grow bored.'

— Mylaburr, Athel Loren Scout speaking of the Treemen.

Soon(tm).

I just don't see how Wood Elves can live up to the amount of copypasta posted

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>>156959979
Burning that shit forest down will be fun :^)

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>>156960239
They don't need to, just genociding them will be enough for 95% of /twg/

why aren't there any great weapon slayer units?

>>156959208
>>156960264
>>156960394
EDGE AIN'T FREE

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IF OUR LORD IS T'BECOME KING
G O B L I N S post in thread this morning, image.jpg on added picture. This general's afraid of me. I've seen its true face. The threads are extended gutters and the gutters are full of blood. And when the drains finally scab over, all the NEETS will drown. The accumulated filth of all their memes and autism will foam up around their waists and all the shills and slavposters will look up and shout "save us!" ...and I'll whisper:
"Tomorrow"
Now the whole board stands on the brink staring down into bloody hell. All those understanders, and ElfPosters, and historyfags; and all of a sudden nobody can think of anything to say. Beneath me, this awful general, it screams like a Pontus reveal full of TWC regulars. And the night reeks of frogposting and bad copypasta.

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>>156960403
Because that might actually give them a purpose and we can't have that happening

>>156960403
so they can be sold later as DLC

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>>156960431
Athel Loren gonna be littered with the blood of NEET ELVES

>>156961175
ARIEL and ORION not POO POO and PEE PEE ok

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>>156961307
>ARIEL and ORION
>ARIEL
Never going to happen ;_;

>>156961515
As the Queen of Comfiness and NEETdom, she is an inappropriate choice for a legendary lord. She delegates.

The Sisters of Twilight represent her in martial affairs and are suitably pure and elegant.

Is somone watching ESL warhamer game?

>>156962590
Link?

>>156962590
www twitch tv/ninjahund

>>156962949
meaning for
>>156962879

>>156962949

>Large unit size

Into the trash it goes

>>156963350
How can you tell?

>>156963350
Large units size are most balanced

>>156963479
Was going to ask what they balance around. So it is large?

>>156963551
They balance magic around large

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((wake me up))

>>156962136
>Sisters of Twilight
>Pure

Nice one.

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>>156962949
>Mfw i have no idea what is going on but it looks fun

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>>156962136
>elf
>pure and elegant

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>>156963705
post pyrrhic victories

how should you use cannons on completely flat maps?

should I still put melee units in front when the enemy is very far away or will they get friendly fire?

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>>156964794
checkerboard formation

or just say fuck it and embrace the friendly fire

>You have to get these equip items and weapons and whatnot for the lords
>They're already wearing them all so finding them makes no difference except stats.

And this is why the game is shit.

>>156964794
In warhammer they smart enough to not shoot itself if you to put them way to close
In empire and napoleon get ready to be fucked

Thoughts?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZajozobwU

>>156965025
I heard this movie is not so good

is that was a fucking skiers

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>Still no Lizardmen
>Probably won't get Lizardmen until after the faggot elves and probably not even until one of the "expansion" games.
>Only race worth playing aside from Lizardmen are Skaven, and who knows when they'll come out.
>Or Tomb Kings, but given that they're not expansionists they might not show up at all.
Why even live?

>>156965025
Looks like shit. Except for the skicav, looks comfy.

>>156965848
>Or Tomb Kings, but given that they're not expansionists they might not show up at all.
Every faction with an armybook is getting in

>>156965848
Aren't Lizardmen even less expansionist than the Tomb Kings though? I know the Kangz mount expeditions into the Old World to get their fucking treasures back, but as far as I'm aware Lizardmen just sit in Lustria patting themselves on the back about how well the 'great plan' is going while not actually doing anything because nobody even knows what the 'great plan' actually is.

>>156965997
tfw no edgy dorfs

NICE

>>156966089
>no edgy dorfs
Don't worry, they'll be in

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>>156966089
Reminder.

>>156965025
>tfw no comfy Norwegian Civil War Era campaign.

>ninjahund just threw a fit

You guys missing this?

>>156966320
MANFRED WAS WEAK

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>>156966063
The status quo lore in the armybook claims that their current leader has decided to get them all off their arses and actually start mobilising, with a key focus on recolonising Albion.
Since Tomb Kings are just trying to run their kingdoms like the good old days no doubt some will want to expand and take new territories.

>>156966320
>You guys missing this?
nope, nothing funnier than to see that german? fag throw his fits

>>156966320
Saw it. Goblin archers killed Mannfred it seems.

>>156966449
Dane

>>156966490

Mannfred got deleted

>>156966320
>banning people who call him butthurt.

>>156966449
He is danish.

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>>156966320
NOMOREVAMPIRECOUNTSINTOURNAMENTS
NOMOREVAMPIRECOUNTSINTOURNAMENTS
NOMOREVAMPIRECOUNTSINTOURNAMENTS
NOMOREVAMPIRECOUNTSINTOURNAMENTS
NOMOREVAMPIRECOUNTSINTOURNAMENTS

>>156966089
They have to be in because otherwise the darklands is just a huge hole for skaven, greenskins and ogres to shit around in
Maybe they'll change how regional occupation works in later games but I doubt it

>>156966089
>>156966165
>In leak (which has been confirmed true)
>Big empty space reserved for them east of World's Edge Mountains

They're going to be in, anon.

>>156966434
Status Quo lore for TK's is Settra rocking out and declaring that he's going to make Nehekhara great again.

Every single faction's status quo lore is something to the effect of "faction leader gathers massive army and goes to conquer".

>>156966620
>>156966645
>yfw it just reskinned unplayable Dwarfs

>>156966063
Expansionist might be the wrong word for them, sure, but they want to fuck up any newfag race that steps into the old world. S'why they probably won't show up until one of the expansions.

>>156961135
Can't we at least get one faction with its entire roster in the game without any DLC?

Any good Chaos campaign mods anyone can recommend? Having everyone run from you until they hit you with 3 armies at once gets old.

>>156966757
Pretty much, in order to justify the "anything can happen" scenario of the tabletop game, and subsequently the TW game too.

>>156966320
Link?

>>156966830
The greatest irony is that because the WHFB is effectively viewed from the perspective of the Empire the Lizardmen actually live in the 'New World'.

>captcha making me draw fucking boxes around street signs

What in the fuck is this?

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>

>>156967001
>CA
>Giving something that should be in the base game away for free when they can sell it as DLC.
I want to live in your beautiful fantasy world, anon.

>>156967082

>>156962949

>>156959568
what's this ifunny.co meme?

Did anyone else become a history fag when they were young reading Rome I quotes.

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>>156958653

>>156967273
I hope Haughty Elves get something similar.

>>156967274
The sad thing is that if people didn't buy any of the DLC instead of thinking, "I guess people don't like our shitty DLC practices so we should stop removing essential parts of the game", they will instead go "I guess people don't like warhammer so we'll either half ass it all or just not bother with it anymore" because suits are fucking retards.

>>156967146
>What in the fuck is this?
Look in the top or bottom-right for the "Settings" button, expand "Quotes and Replying" and tick "Legacy Captcha", save the settings before closing

You can thank me later, when google pulled the reappearing boxes bullshit I got done with it

>>156960601
This deserves a (You)

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>>156967597
mix of Rome I, Age of Empires 2 library and pic related for me

I wish someone would make some models for Warmaster in Tabletop Simulator. Fuck, Warmaster was such a great Warhammer game it seriously blows my mind how good it was.

Hell, how hard is it to model stuff in Blender or something with no experience whatsoever? I'll make some Warmaster shit so I can play some Warmaster.

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>Tfw you make so much money from trade alone that you can turn your taxes to a minimum and watch your settlements grow faster because of the improvement growth

>>156968364
>how hard is it to model stuff in Blender or something with no experience whatsoever?
A fucking wild ride, you are better off the slav way and rip models from other games

>>156968423
>setting taxes on anything lower than high
enjoy your -20 public order penalty

>>156968818
>he doesn't build taverns

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Why aren't you guys using the FUCKING POPE as retinue?

>snackbars got BTFO by everyone before i could get to them

feels bad mang

>>156969162
>Want to play a dorf campaign
>Decide to wait for Beastmen release because fuck fighting nothing but greenskins for half the game.
>Beastmen are released
>Start the campaign
>Top Knotz remove Malagor turn 15.
>Get to fight exactly one stack of Beastmen about 2/3rds through the campaign.

Still, I confederated with Zhufbar, so I got to fight some vampire shitters in the early game.

>>156958770
Simple, so cool he doesn't need to be riding something else to achieve maximum cool.

>>156968897
Minimal taxes effects:
>- 20 public order
>+ 4 growth
>almost no money

High taxes effects:
>-10 public order
>-1 growth
>lots of money

High taxes are better every time, +10 public order and tons of money are better than +5 growth and little to no money

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>>156965848
I wonder how Lizardmen would "feel" on the battle map. Looking at their roster, they are pretty much exactly like chaos warriors - Elite heavy infantry with super weak chaff, plus monster support and limited range capabilities. The only thing different is that Saurus have lighter armor.

Campaign is interesting too. Will they have public order considering they are almost like biological robots? Who will they fight other than skaven and dark elves? It's not liek lizardmen are known for infighting. What would be their "gimmick"?

>>156970231
>minimal taxes
>the people riot
>maximum taxes
>the people rejoice
I fail to see the logic.

>>156970231
-20 is not assured anon,as long as there is no fighting on the borders of the province

What am I doing wrong when my orks are always getting demoralized but the enemies orks are allright?

I'm feeling like a fucking retard despite playing this series all the way since the first Shogun... Well okay, I practically skipped Rome 2 and Attila but still.

Also, gotta love that grand campaign with two optional factions if you don't have any DLC.

>>156970581
What difficulty?

>>156970690
Normal because I want an even playing field.

>>156970496
>not sacking every neighbouring city all the time

>>156970428
It all comes down to immigration public order penalties. On medium and lower taxes, you are getting immigrants that, over time, will eventually give you -20 public order penalty.

On high+ taxes, you don't get any immigrants, so you don't get -20 public order penalty, just -10 from high taxes

The worst possible choice is medium (default) taxes. They give you less money than high, and you still get immigrants, resulting in total -24 public order in all provinces.
That's why you see people often complain how hard it was in Attila to keep your public order in check: they probably never set their taxes on high (or even worse, they set them on low)

>>156970496
Idk, it seems to me that you will get that -20 eventually no matter what you do

>>156970745
>even playing field
>against an opponent that literally doesn't have a brain

>>156970745
Basic orcs and especially gobbos have very low Leadership and thus waver even at the slightest hint of defeat. Make sure your units are always fighting in the lord's or hero's aura for the Leadership bonus.

>>156970980
Still doesn't explain the other side being alright.
They are the same units after all.

>>156970336
Lizardmen are notable for the following qualities:
>Good mixture of heavy and light infantry (Saurus and Skinks)
>SPELLCASTING
>Lots of monsters
>Will never, ever give up.
>Little to no ranged
>No artillery
They are quite similar to WoC, like you said.

>Who will they fight other than skaven and dark elves?
Daemons after they're released.
Also the Skeggi colony and the Vampire Coast are obvious ways to sneak in some early game Norscan and VC combat.

>>156970428

Low taxes=Shitton of immigrants

Long term the immigrants cause lots of public disorder except for the WRE who only gets 50% from it (9 max)

>>156971092
Are you sure you are getting your charges off? Orcs have relatively high charge bonuses so it's pretty important for them.

>>156971092
>Still doesn't explain the other side being alright.
>They are the same units after all.
Do you have +army leadership skills on your general?
Do you engage properly (ie. getting a clean charges on enemy infantry)?
Do you prioritize targets for your skirmishers correctly?

There are tons of variables, but AI cheating is not one of them. AI doesn't receive any battle bonuses on normal, and you can hover over any unit and see its leadership and other stats.

>>156970336
I feel like they'll be similar to Beastmen unit-wise, in that skinks will work like the ungor archers. They'll likely have semi-decent cav, but their elite infantry isn't as good as Chaos'.

I just hope they have cities and aren't another horde race. Maintaining income as the Beastmen is nigh on impossible without getting buttfucked by Brettonia's Cav.

>>156971224
>Little to no ranged
you better wait for the skink apocalypse...

>>156971415
>>156971418
I think I am getting my charges but I'm not sure on the min distance.
As for targets I tend to go one to one ratio ie. an even charge. From time to time I also try to eliminate the enemy lord so that there would be morale penalties but that rarely works as intended.

>>156971823
check the leadership stat when you're mid fight to see what pens you're getting

>>156972085
I'll do that next time I play it.
Still doesn't change the kooky DLC policy though.

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>Still no ancient empires
>Still no medieval kingdoms
It's not fair

>>156971486
Beastmen is a bad comparison. Beastmen are all about hitting quick and hitting hard with mass-infantry. Lizardmen are slower and don't go down nearly as easily. Lizardmen units usually aren't armored, but they got that Scaly Skin and that Cold-blooded special rules.

I'd say Lizardmen are something in between WoC and Dorfs

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>>156972302
you should, it's very eye opening

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>>156971486
Making them a horde race would be ridiculous, the temple cities play a huge role in their lore.
I did see a "my wife's son's dad works for CA and.." post that suggested that Lizardmen get all their cities from turn one and play like a tower defence game. Even if it's guaranteed to be fake it was a pretty interesting concept he laid out.

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

Has anyone here tried the Lorehammer mod? Is it any good?

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Any tips for an WRE start on Attila? Been listening to the fall of Rome podcast and I'm in the mood to prevent the impossible. It already feels like I have to start giving up provinces, but it feels wrong abandoning places which can be used as buffers for the inevitable Hun buttfucking (Sirminium for eample).

Any suggestions for mods too?

>>156972369
>still no wood elves

>Wood Elves work as a "semi-horde" faction.
>Only cities are in Athel Loren, work like "super-cities" where you can have more buildings than normal.
>Can't settle outside of Athel Loren.
>Instead, your armies can set up a World Root Portal, which allows them to teleport to-and-from Athel Loren.
>These Portals remain behind when your army teleports back.
>World Root Portals are garrisoned, garrisons can be upgraded but otherwise no buildings are available. Enemies can sack/raze WRPs if they defeat the garrison.
>Each army can only have one WRP at a time.
>Setting up (and teleporting from and to) a WRP takes a full movement.

How do you like this, /twg/?

Gives WElfs that defensive playstyle they really need. You can easily defend Athel Loren, and your armies are hard to take down, since you can just bail out and teleport back to Athel Loren if you suddenly find yourself facing several doomstacks, at the cost of having to haul your bitchass all the way back there when they raze your WRP. You're not very good at large-scale expansion since you only have one province you can recruit from, and every time you teleport back there, you're at the mercy of your enemies not falling over and destroying your WRPs.

>>156972369
>Have 5 am courses on Tuesday/Thursday
>Always long as fuck, always dragging myself back home dead after working out.
>Always had my hopes up for Wood Elves news

Goddamnit.

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This is the the bay of Marathon, on the eastern coast of Greece. I'm Matthew Settle.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiOwZ6XWyDQ

>>156959979
cost too many jabbers

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>>156974842
did you really have to transcribe the whole first part of the video?

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>>156975236
Yes.

Decisive Battles remade in Rome 2 when? I know some guy made his own fanedit of it but his PC was so poor you could count the frames.

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>>156975457
Who needs that when Time Commanders is coming back?

>>156974842
RIP History Channel.

>>156974814
Would be interesting, but having a random army unstealth (because wood elves are bound to have stealthy armies) set up a world root portal in the middle of your land and then have multiple stacks start pouring out could be exceptionally annoying in some circumstances

>>156975736
>Time Commanders

Fuck off, hiring people who are inept at video games to recreate historical battles is stupid and boring as fuck.

>>156975736
>>156976053
It looks like they are doing a slightly different thing this time.

>In each show, two teams of three friends, family, or colleagues will take control of opposing ancient forces, facing our computer, pre-programmed by our historical experts, before they face off against each other in one of history’s biggest battles.

>>156975992
You could balance it by only allowing the portal to be used by the army who made it.

>>156976184
Isn't that basically exactly the same as the old version but with extra added PvP?

>>156976367
>Slightly different thing

Yes

>>156976216
That would work.
I think wood elves will almost certainly have beast/forestpaths, a default ambushing stance like the beastmen, and will be a settled faction due to athel loren, but whether they can conquer other nations settlements or not will be the biggest thing determining how unique they are or not.

>>156974692
>Any tips for an WRE start on Attila?
play agressively and raze all the barbars around you, destroy nomads the moment they enter your lands, build garrison encampments on the eastern border, wipe out celts in the first 10 turns

its not that hard if you know what you are doing, in fact with all the patches its trivial

>>156976184
>before they face off against each other in one of history’s biggest battles

That is going to be hilarious if neither team is an understander of strategy.

>>156976787
>its not that hard if you know what you are doing.

I was pretty good with the ERE, ended up not losing the Danube and crushed the sassy kids pretty easily, I'm just stuck trying to figure out how to juggle literally everything not working out.

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>9 (NINE) days since the 30th
>AE STILL NOT RELEASED

>>156978106
Who cares about that shit nerd?

WOOD ELVES STILL NOT RELEASED

>>156978106
>AE
lol just play rome 2 faget

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> Vampire Coast
> STILL
> NOT
> RELEASED

>>156979228

Since we will likely get vampire coast on the first expansion. do you think they gonna make unique models for them or will they use the same "Empire unit" zombie model?

What's Tomb Kings lore of magic is like? Will they still be Vampire-tier cancer with always regenerating troops?

>>156979320
No idea. They should at the very least be pirate-like, and they do have their own unique army list, albeit a limited one.

>>156979228
>Every single image I open gets a 404

Why

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>>156979665
Lore of Nehekhara is plain jane. It has a little bit of everything.

On the TT it wasn't really all that good. At least if the 1d4chan tactics page is to believed. A large part of the article is dedicated to finding some way of getting around the rule that requires the highest level spellcaster in your army to take it.

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>tfw you view every new faction as merely a little added flavour for when you conquer the map in the name of Hashut

do you even know that volcanic malicious taurine feel?

>>156979962
>tfw he's shouting SIGMAAAAAAAR!

teared up desu

>>156979804
Oh what a glorious day it will be when they release that last big DLC with armies for the Halflings, Kislev, the Pirate Coast and Dogs of War! Then the superiority of our source material over that of the history fags will be undeniable!

>>156980346
See >>156966165

>>156971363
I wish there was a demographics scale in TW games so I could see how many of my citizens were from where

>>156979320
>>156979804
Someone will eventually make a mod for them.

Going by their army list:
>Put zombies in whatever Empire clothes make them look most piratey. (Deckhands)
>Give some of these zombies empire handguns (Gunnery mob)
>Give empire canons a a rusty skin. Replace crew with pirate zombies (Caronades)
>VC dogs (Scurvy dogs)
>Skaven giant rats (Razortooth rats)
>Give Ogres/Chaos Ogres a zombey skin (Animated Hulks)
>Giant monster with a zombey look. (Rotting Leviathan)
>Finally, add dorf cannon, make it really big, and add zombie crew (Queen Bess)

Most of the list should be doable within the constraints of the games modding (going by my very limited understanding of said constraints). Only ones I can't see are the Deck Droppers and the Deck Gunners, which sucks since they're the most interesting units.

>>156981602
Bloated corpses also.
Rotting Leviathans are suggested as to being stuff like the Promethean crab, but I could see something simpler like a zombified Merwyrm.

>>156981750
Right, forgot those guys.

Luckily the army list was made to be easily converted from regular armies, so it should be possible to represent it fairly accurately in the game, in case CA makes them a regular VC faction.

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>tfw the whole world is divided between two giant, equal strength powers and their allies, the battlegrounds between them a desolate wasteland
>tfw late game Atilla is actually fun

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>>156981750
>zombified merwyrm

Aww yeah, that would be perfect.

Too bad it's a random FW monster and as such, likely won't be in the game.

>>156982517
>blobs vs blobs

Yeah
Really fun

If you have a good PC

>>156983036
I think I read somewhere that High Elves could take one, but it was some special event/list

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>>156982517
if you destroy huns the moment they appear, the AI manages to form massive empires and armies, they still cant deal with the meme ice age very well, but oh well

>>156965025
>Jarl Borg and Tormund Giantsbane
Still looks like shit though

>>156971224
>no artillery
what do we classify the dinosaur with a special beam cannon on its back as then
or the firebreathing cunts

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>wood elves have no ranged artillery

Well shit, those fuckers better run fast or they will get bullied in multiplayer

>>156984271
reminder, flying ranged monstrous cavalry with a killer charge

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>>156984394

I hope that Warhawk Riders get in

>flying ranged skirmishers

>>156984394
do wood elves even have flying units?

>>156984131
Clearly those are (Heavy Ranged Monstrous Cavalry).


Nah, I skimmed large parts of the Lizardmen army book, so I can't say if the some of the dinosaur units function like artillery.

>>156984558
yes
warhawk riders, giant eagles (both as single monsters and mounts for lords), forest dragons for lords..

>>156984558
Warhawk riders and Giant eagles.

>Why did my army have to walk all the way to Zharr-Naggrund? Why couldn't it just fly there on the Giant Eagles?

>>156984558

They have 2 monstrous ones.
3 if you count the dragon.

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Memes aside, is he a legitimately good ruler, or just an eye candy?

>>156984545
>pegasus knights with less armour but killier mounts and longbows

>>156984781
He's regarded as the best statesman the Empire has ever had and on top of that he's a formidable military commander, so I'd say he's good.

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>>156984781
>Pre-release
>"Oh man, Franz looks fucking awesome. Hell yeah this is a leader. Who the fuck is Gelt? Some boring old wizard who cares.

>Post-Release
>"MEN OF THE EMPIRE, I AM NO WARRIOR PRIEST BLESSED WITH THE GIFT OF MAKING GRAND SPEECHES. I AM NO ORATOR, THAT IS TRUE. I AM NOT A COLD MAN, DESPITE THIS MASK, FROZEN IN ITS STERN ASPECT!"

Balthasar Gelt is my fucking husbando holy shit HE IS SO COOL

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>>156985173
>Best voice in the game tied to a character with the worst lore of magic

>>156985173
Too bad Gelt sucks.

Lore of Metal needs a serious boost.

>>156984781
Read about him, he's basically the best at everything

>>156984781
Lorewise he's pretty much the epitome of "The Righteous Ruler". He's honourable, brilliant, cares for his people and is a military genius.

>>156985173

Too bad lore of metal is literally useless.

i don't know what they had in mind, that meteor attack of his can't even fucking kill goblins

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>>156985173
>"We could leave this mess for Todbringer to clear up, but alas, Franz would not thank me."

Why is Gelt so tsun-tsun for Franz-chan?

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>>156985576
>lore of metal
>meteor

but yeah, all bombardment spells are a waste of magic, except Kholek's, because it's free

>>156985576
Don't forget his ranges are so short he needs to stand 5 feet away from an enemy army to activate it.

Fuck me I hate running up, throwing a spell, then having to rush him back again.

>>156985576
I think overcast plague of rust having area of effect would be nice
Glittering robe already does which is sort of nice
In general, the lore needs to have more effect on armored units instead of said armor mitigating the damage so much

>>156985291
>>156985332
>>156985576

>There are literally people who play without modded magic.

Shitting on CA for the imbalance is still valid I suppose, but in practice it's not much of a problem, just like overly aggressive enemy agents and retarded AI recruitment aren't actually much of a problem.

I thought it was me being just shit with Gelt, but he is in general very shitty then? Bummer, I love that golden masked fucker with his booming voice.

>>156986152

Yeah, his lore of magic is very underwhelming.

Even his anti-armour spells aren't that good.

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>>156958593
>>156958924
Goblins...

So tommorow may be the day?

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>>156985584
Boris has enough shit to worry about without some punk-ass metal wizard spawning undead legions all over his shit.

>>156986434
TUESDAY

>>156986434

Tuesday or Thursday

You niggers will never learn will you?

>>156986145
just came back recently to the game
can you suggets any good mods?

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>>156986434

tomorrow will never come

>>156986481
>Spawning

What are you on about? They rose themselves and it's Todbringer's job to clear them out but Gelt does it anyway because SUPREME PATRIARCH!

anyone knows where can find data and numbers about spells damage n shiet ?

>do a practice battle to see if I wanna do a greenskin campaign
>AI is legit programmed to corner hug
>you can't surround me, not because of terrain, but because of an invisible wall :^)
dumbest shit i've seen in my life

>>156964260
name of doujin?

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>tfw tried a VH greenskin campaign for the first time in my life
>fighting against other greenskins
>"okay that is fun, I might enjoy this"
>then the angry little shits get on my yard
>Boys can't beat dwarf warriors
>Big Un's can't beat dwarf warriors
>I have to erase their TOUGH AS FUCK lord if I want to have any chance of routing these fucks.
>benny hill their weak stats
>After 50 turns I hit esc and exit to windows.

>>156987023
It's not a Doujin. It's Remonster.

Don't bother, for every good bit you have to wade through 300 pages of the MC spouting exposition about all the cool shit he ate.

>>156986974
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=702766959

>>156987295

>benny hill their weak stacks

fixed

>>156986434
no chance

either Tuesday or Thursday, just like tomorrow

anyone have any tips for using cavalry in TWW?

Is it best to actually make the cavalry attack the unit or micro to keep charging through it?

>>156988008

For recent TW , you can check if its shock or not.

If its shock cavalry then yeah, micromanage, charge and pull back, charge again.

If its not shock, then just throw them behind some engaged infantry and leave them there.

>>156988008
Unless you need to get at something behind the unit you're charging, it's usually best to attack the unit for a bit then retreat for another charge
With chariots, you pretty much always want to keep moving and charge through units

>>156988501

I never managed to make chariots work in TW.

They always get stuck, so I use them like normal cavalry, I never found a reliable way to make them go through a unit.

>>156988594
The AI seems to manage them pretty much perfectly somehow

>>156988657
The AI has perfect micro-though. It also zig-zags dogs between units like crazy.

>>156988657

The AI also knows when you are targeting a unit.

One funny thing I found in Warhammer is that when you click to attack skirmishers the AI immediately move away even if your troops haven't even moved yet.

>>156988868
It's funny to flip the tables on it with that. You can make it move skirmishers even if you don't actually intend to pursue them.

>>156987295
>routing a dwarf army

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>>156989295
MOOOOOOOOT I did not post that picture

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>>156989472
YOU'VE DONE IT NOW

>>156989295
>>156989472
I don't know why you're complaining it's a very nice picture you should post more like it.

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What do you think about my advanced siege-assault tactics? They're pretty good if I may say so myself.

>>156989472

enjoy your 3 days

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>>156990237
>making just 1 hole
>no siege engines
I give it 2/10

>>156990237
>Place one or two spearmen in spear wall at a chokepoint
>hold up about 30 enemy infantry units
>rear charge with cavarly, get thousands of kills on them
Every time

>>156989295
why is he looking at that loli tummy?

>>156990530
Actually I destroy the towers and one gate with my single catapult, then I burn some of the city and some troops and use all my missile ammo. Then I assault the gate with 10 minutes left and fight to a draw. Rinse and repeat next turn on an extra gate, and I get loads of kills for every one of my casualties.

>>156990693
He's going to rape her, permanently damage her genitals and ruin her mental health forever.

>>156964260
Retarded and stupid. You just made my brain melt.

Real beastmen would be horrifically assfucking captured Imperial soldiers, not stupid Elf girls.

is beastmen worth the money?

I've only done 2 different dwarf campaigns so far so I'm reluctant to buy DLC when I haven't even played all the factions yet, but I kinda got that goatman fever.

>>156991952
i'm in the same boat as you, wait till the dlc news

>>156991630
What else are you supposed to do with elf girls?

They're no good eating since they don't have any meat on them.

>>156992057
Shit on them of course.

>>156991952

Do you like the idea of playing a faction with units as shitty as greenkins but with the same mechanics of Chaos? (minus the entire world making a beeline to fuck your ass)

If you answered yes then the beastmen are for you

>>156991952
Beastmen are okay but too expensive imo
wait for sale

>>156992241
>units as shitty as greenkins
Hey, minotaurs and gorebulls are fucking great

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>>156992057
>elves
>not good eating

>>156992327

Minotaurs are good.
gotta give you that

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TIME TO CULTURALLY ENRICH LONDON

>>156992327
Centigors and Bestigors are also pretty good. I think they're only underrated because Minotaurs do everything so well.

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>Post roman london

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>>156992404
>first ever fight against beastmen is an ambush on legendary
>haven't a fucking clue what's going to happen
>1 second into the battle and 6 minotaurs charge straight into my lines
>get fucked

>>156990917
sounds nice

>>156992241
well, honestly I think the waaagh mechanic is fucking lame, but I like the idea of being a horde faction.

Why did they actually give them the waaagh mechanic anyway? Just seems unnecessary when being a horde faction is enough of a gimmick already.

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LET'S GET THEM COOKING PANS LADS

>>156992886
Because they have to be special or else they are just WoC with a different start

>>156992886
just wait until we get forest waaghs, forest fightyness and forestpaths, and forest ambush movement stance

>>156992886

Not to mention their lack of attrition between hordes.

Yeah, the fightiness mechanic for them was retarded and its why I like to meme about

>horde
>fightiness
>beastpath

Every now and then

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Who the fuck is the kingdom of alt cunt and why are there some bitches in their army

>>156992365
I would literally cream my pants if they added Grom as a LL along with a campaign following his Waaagh.

>>156995014
Isn't Skarsnik more likely?

>>156993000
>else they are just WoC with a different start
Was TWW your first game or something?

Shogun 2 was one of the best TW games and half the factions play incredibly similarly, the main difference being where you start.

That has a fucking huge impact on the campaign experience.

They also are a completely different faction to WoC.

Is having completely different armies not enough?

>>156995376
Apparently not to Warhammer babies

>Beastmen(Markrox) vs Bretonnia(Brent Verlin) in the esl final
>Bretonnia absolutely destroys the beastmen by using staggered formation

Fucking glorious. Love seeing such formation use.

Do you think there's a chance they'll add avatar conquest and more political stuff back into the game or is this the absolute best we're going to get?

>>156995090
well yeah, but that would probably be a general night goblin dlc with all the squig units.

Grom could just be a little addition for when they bring high elves in.

>>156995014
We won't get a Grom pack until High Elves are released. So no Grom until the first expansion at the soonest.

>>156995551
got a link?

>>156995551
Video link?

Can they add FW units into TWW?

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You will never ever get _________

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What do?

>>156995554
Depends how big the expansion is.
It could be a few new factions, a map expansion and nothing else, or it could add a huge amount of content aside from the factions and be as priced as much as a new game

>>156995773
>>156995824

Lord Sapho Casts: ESL Community Cup #19 on twitch

tw
itch.t v/saphotea/v/93912856

04:54:00

>>156995897
Don't do it Ragnar! He'll backstab you for political gain!

How do I know if I am a trve understander of strategy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkmZgGDtfv8
Giant Narhwhals and Orc drill ships when?
Though seriously, with all the crazy naval stuff in warhammer lore is there a hope naval combat will be fun this time around?

>>156995897
Go historical. Take the land and continue invading them anyway.

Dumbass Saxons.

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>>156996190

So be it

>>156996825
The behemoth (narwhal) is the Beastman ship model in TWWH, actually.

>>156996825
Naval combat isn't coming to Total War: Warhammer.

>>156995846
I would hope so. As charming as the citadel Great Unclean One is, the fw one is leagues better

>>156996608
When you are you just know. You wake up and all the strategies, tactics and memes are just there.

>tfw you wreck full stack of greenskins with 5 mortars

>>156995551
I gotta see this, I'm not familiar with any 'pro' players. Were they pros?

>>156987373
>http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=702766959
thanks dud

>>156995848
Is there any list on the vampire coast army?

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>>156987373
>there are people who don't just search the DB for this shit

>>156998482
There is one, was published in an old issue of White Dwarf. Probably a copy of this somewhere in these:
> pastebin.com/8rnyAa1S
> pastebin.com/0e6RuQux
Which I've stolen from /tg/

Captain Drekla has never had rules, but he's mentioned as Harkon's right-hand man in the fluff.

>>156985173
>>156985332
>>156985576
I think that the biggest issue with wizards legendary lords is that their magic is exactly the same as the regular wizard's magic.
Meanwhile, melee legendary lords are significantly stronger in melee than the regular melee lords.

They should just add some signature spells or shit to legendary lord casters, which would be powerful enough to make them a viable choice, and make them more interesting on top of that.

>>156992886
I feel like if they keep trying to give each faction it's own gimmick they'll run out of steam pretty quickly and the game might end up a hot mess.

>>156999395
The problem is that magic in TT is waaay stronger that in TWW but is a lot harder to pull off.

If they made normal wizards a lot worse at casting and made it so magic fails half the time, but is way stronger (then made it that LL wizards were far better at casting) then it'd reflect TT more.

>>157000041
Magic already fails half the time if you overcast, but the problem is that lots of the overcast effect buffs are useless. Most vortexes just get more time to run away for example.

>>156986427
;_;7

Post Warhammer roll chart. I've already done Empire and VC so they're excluded.

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>>156958414

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I don't even care if next week is the week anymore.

>>156965025

>tfw no Norwegian ski-troops in tw

>opening cinematic will only include first 4 factions

LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE

>>156985497
shed a tear reading this phams

dead

>>157007821
No u

>>156965848
Just roll janitor and ahelp the admins, so they turn you into one.

Boom, you're now a loathsome sludgelicker, you ligger.

How do I git gud when the enemy is on a hill?

I can't bait them to come down and so i have to attack uphill and get my army decimated.

>>157009789
Cast "inversion of height" and their hill turns into a valley.

>>157009789

This is why you need to walk around with 4 units of archer in every army and maybe an artillery piece.

>>156984271
Ranged artillery that isn't named Doom Diver is almost never that good in multiplayer, and Wood Elves shouldn't have big blocks of infantry to hit anyway

warhawk riders desu

>>157013161

>Ranged artillery that isn't named Doom Diver is almost never that good in multiplayer

>what is hellcannon, hammer of the witches, templehof luminark or trebuchet

>flying skirmisher cavalry
How bad will it be?

>>157013296
That's a list of things that are mostly quite expensive and have the potential to repay their cost but will seldom ever do more than that, outside someone stumbling into net cheese

>>156995848
Wood Elf list is missing Naieth the Prophetess, /ss/ oneesan extraordinaire

>>157014106

If they're anything like gyrocopters then no.

>>156995848

I guess if Ghorst can be added, they'll let any riff raff into the roster. Which is not a bad thing mind you, but who the fuck is Borgut Facebeater for example?

>>156965848

>tfw we will finally get Lizardmen aztec cities

Unless they're a horde :^)

>>157014713

Nah they are more like ranged pegasus, with armour piercing bows.

>>157014713
Gyrocopters have less models to fire with and also can't can't fire on the move

The pain will be real

>>157014713

Gyrocopters have 3 models

Warhawk Riders, if the pegasus knights are to go by , will have 20 models or so

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>the "Everchosen" is this manlet

Why are we afraid of Chaos again

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>>157016865
The real chosen of Chaos don't need armor of compensation-plate

>>157015885
Lizardmen are very much an urbanized race

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The Wood Elves have the finest aerial skirmisher cavalry in the Old World.

>>157015442
Grimgor's second-in-command, basically.

I got 20 dollars in steam bucks and nowhere to spend it

Fucking CA

>>157020927
Spend it on me! <3

>>157020927

you can buy me grim and the grave

>>157020927
>tfw sold dota box for exactly as much as the beastmeme dlc is worth so I can stop complaining about it

What kind of cities would Wood Elves have? Human? Dwarf/orc? Neither? Both?

How the hell are you supposed to play Attila? AI always gang up on me and public order being a fucking mess make expanding impossible.

>>157023970
Horde factions don't have cities

>>157024493
Welcome to Total War.

>>157024493
Play a faction besides Rome

>>157024493
Did you do something to upset Barbar NATO?