/twg/ - Total War General

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THE DAY WILL NEVER COME

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i was busy bringing jungle fever to the north

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WOOD ELVES WHEN

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G O B L I N S

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>>156832595

imposter

anyone run into these errors when trying to boot up warhammer?

Faulting application name: launcher.exe_Total War Launcher, version: 1.0.0.1, time stamp: 0x576a8196
Faulting module name: unknown, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x00000000
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x00000000
Faulting process id: 0x18a4
Faulting application start time: 0x01d2210b1edcc09b
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Total War WARHAMMER\launcher\launcher.exe
Faulting module path: unknown
Report Id: 5cd9c641-8cfe-11e6-a5fa-74d435e372da

and

Faulting application name: launcher.exe_Total War Launcher, version: 1.0.0.1, time stamp: 0x576a8196
Faulting module name: MSVCR120.dll, version: 12.0.21005.1, time stamp: 0x524f7ce6
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x00057e6b
Faulting process id: 0x18a4
Faulting application start time: 0x01d2210b1edcc09b
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Total War WARHAMMER\launcher\launcher.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\system32\MSVCR120.dll
Report Id: 5d79b219-8cfe-11e6-a5fa-74d435e372da

google says it's something to do with visual c++, but reinstalling that yields nothing

please respond

>>156832595

kill yourself

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>>156832713

not your personal IT

>>156832595
Thank you.

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

>>156833812
don't lose your head

>>156835509
Get this degenerate filth out of my thread.

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>>156832595
Goblins...

empire crossbows dont have armor piercing lmao nice one wh

>>156835509
WEW

>opening cinematic will only include first 4 factions

LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE

>>156835838
;_;7

HAHAHHA here we GO again, another round of stale memes and shitposting.
another round of tomb kangz,meme rats, meme goblins, le ebin vlad, and etcetera.

>>156839951
and yet, we will all be here for the next thread.

and the next thread.
and the next thread...


see where I am going with this?

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

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>>156839951
What else are we supposed to do?

dedgaem

I haven't played Warhammer since June and everything felt a little different when I started a new Empire campaign today. Karl Franz has less health and I can't get anyone to trade with me on turn 1. Am I just crazy or have patches changed shit up a lot?

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How the fuck did anyone enjoy vanilla shogun 2? I decided to go back just to get a regular campaign out of the way because I never did, and I can't even play Date on fucking hard, because each time about 10 turns in either Uesugi, Takeda, or Hojo, or any mix of the three declare war on me and already have like half the goddamn map and start just shitting doomstacks out absolutely nonstop. I have less trouble on Attila on VH.

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ded thred
ded game
ded hope

>>156846331
Shogun 2 is a meme

>>156847073

We just need to hold out for the night 'till dawn.

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DARK GODS
WITNESS ME

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The day will never come lads.

>>156831416
there better be something more than a shirt that elf dlc after this wait

I want goddamn ogres or SOMETHING after all this Bullshit

>>156848430
The game will be in development until 2022 and they have 11 races left to develop. This means we may get as little as about one race pack per year, since 4 of the factions will feature in the expansions rather than the DLC.

fuck i miss grace :(

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>>156831416
>thread 404'ed
>did everyone commit sudoku because of no news while I was away?
We're all drinking and eating our sorrows from the 5 weeks of no news.

Reminder: Grace is a teasing slut.

>>156848759
>Wood Elf campaign pack
>Free Bretonnia faction
>Updated Beastmen roster as part of Update 4

I'll be satisfied if that was why we are waiting.

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>>156848175
>When Volkmar says "My faith is my shield".

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>3 full gallic armies on hard mode
>only one veteran roman army

Help

>>156850192
you came to the wrong forest consul

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>>156850192
repeat this easy trick to win every battle.

>>156851112
>Still posting that old webm.

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>>156851112
>using wedge

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>play Caesar in Gaul DEI hard mode
>finally win with Caesar at level 10 and managed to keep Roman core up to hold chevrons
>100 happiness in all my cities
>campaign ends and revolts happen every where with full 20 upgraded silver chevron 20 stacks
>they all manage to capture settlements and ally with one another
>pic related >>156850192 ironically happens to Caesar's army at the outskirts of Alesia just a bit too far for town reinforcements

What the fuck. Is this a DEI thing or a Caesar in Gaul thing?

>>156851112
The two reinforcing armies made that hard. Won by turtling and got lucky by sacrificing cavalry to kill their generals. Only made it out with three units barely alive.

>>156851454
wedge adds charge bonuses, the only downside is that the front men dies easily but luckily in DeI infantarie have no killing power.

>>156851461
Sphagetti lines. You don't even need to cover half the map. The AI loves to uselessly clump up in one section of your line. Since they're infantry they can't hurt your troops anyway.

>>156851461
The gaul uprising is a vanilla thing. I can't remember they being that upgraded though.

>>156851546
Ohh. I always thought that spaghetti lines made it easier for the enemy infantry to break your lines I kept it like the checkerboard, something that carried over for me from Shogun 2.

>>156851552
I didn't know there was going to be a Gaul Uprising. It caught me by surprise and decimated my veteran armies. Especially Caesar's and Crassus'. I didn't expect them to be so well equipped. That was really weird.

>>156851813
There's no mass in rome 2 so you don't have to worry about that.

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Mummy <3

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>>156849189

3 more sleeps till news

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>>156852918

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Rollan for Rome

>>156822483
DaC is Quantity
MoS is quality.

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>>156853117

>>156852918
Didn't she and Joey just make a big Warhammer livestream.

That's two hours of her right there.

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>>156851840

>>156849683
if the new beastmen roster has ghorgons and they buff kholek I'll be 110 percent satisfied.

Seriously how can people even justify taking kholek as an LL the way he is now? a single unit of slayers that are less than half his cost will destroy him, fuck a unit of halbadiers which are a quarter of his cost will take him down without much of a problem.

That's not even talking about the fact that he is a huge target for ranged weapons, taking almost every shot in a musket, cannon, or arrow volley.

>>156846260
You may be crazy afaik, if you want trade monies smash beastmen and orcs

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>best mummy
>best queen
>best warhammer qt
>best palace

Perfection.

>>156854286
Ahh yes, a unit that has ZERO weaknesses

good one you fucking mong

>>156852918
She's pretty fuckable

>>156854286

Kholek is actually, legitimately one of the very few viable Chaos lord choices.

>>156854286
kholeks stats don't even make sense, he has nearly 400 LESS health than a shaggoth, less leadership, and somehow less fucking armor when he is covered head to toe in plate while shaggoths are bare.

kholek should cost 3k+, have 80-110 armor, 9-12k hp, 600-700 weapon strength, and a massive charge bonus

>>156846260
They have been doing small tweak here and there. As it is right now it's a real bastard to get anyone to trade with you right away you need to build up a relationship first. Aka, beat up common enemies or pay them.

>>156854583
Slayers and Halberds are both anti-large. They're designed to kill him.

>>156854480
Making him expensive would be weakness, and he would keep his huge hitbox, which means he'd still be vulnerable to massed musket fire.

>>156845139
campaign post

>>156854480
a unit of Spearman can effectively counter kholek

the most basic unit In the imperial roster can counter what should be the strongest monster in the game

a 2500 point monster shouldn't lose to 300 points of Spearmen

I'm honestly ok with kholek losing to slayers I just wish he'd actually kill some in the process

>>156854583
A golden turd shines amongst it's kind

>>156854642
yep

with kholek as he is now, all I can use him for is killing enemy lords and sometimes monsters

in the lore this guy is supposed to be a threat to entire armies, and while we don't have to have lore accurate power levels for units in the game we can at least not have kholek be weaker than other fucking shaggoths.

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>>156851112

>>156854583
viable for what exactly? what do you guys even do with kholek in mp?

>>156832713
>he fell for the steam workshop meme

enjoy manually deleting all the mod files and reinstalling the game

>>156855117

Snipe generals usually, his lightning also got buffed

>>156855117
>kholek in mp
One of the most useless generals in mp.

>>156849683
This desu.
I'll be happy then. It's clear this is a big update.
They might even be doing the faction remake that was mentioned about 3 months ago when people complained about factions like Estalia,Tilea and Kislev being copy and paste Empire.

If its not a big update then its likely they are taking more time after the negative reaction to Eye for an Eye.

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>>156852918
>>156854537
Reminder: She's a tomb king girl.

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>Still no announcement

Just let it all end

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>begging for more dlcs

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>>156856923

>>156856823

I'm 25, I remember when I was a little kid I had a shitload of friends in my street.

I still live here and there's barely ANY kids, in fact I don't think there's ANY, europe is slowly dying? I think it's already a rotting corpse.

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>>156856923

Best poster

>>156856923
Why change is back from "dlc news" again?

>>156856503

It has better be a huge update.

>>156857013

>europe is slowly dying? I think it's already a rotting corpse.

People emigrate from rural areas into cities.

And no, Europe is not dying.

>>156857013
I bet that you think that declining birthrates are a bad thing too

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>>156852918

>nose piercing

What a slut.

>>156856672
wtf I love joey now

>>156856503
>They might even be doing the faction remake that was mentioned about 3 months ago when people complained about factions like Estalia,Tilea and Kislev being copy and paste Empire.

any chance the free faction will be a complete revamped kislev?

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It is now October. The sallow season deepens its hold on Athel Loren. It is a dark time, a time of mourning. As the spites and spirits of the forest grow slothful and recalcitrant, the enemies of the Asrai seek to defile the sacred glades. Gorposting is rampant. The Deep Thinking Goblin looms, esoteric and obscene. Athel Loren is a realm under siege. The King of the Woods cannot be found; the kinbands are scattered and given over to dissolute indulgence, pursuing until the last comfort over exertion.

Yet it is comfort itself that is imperiled; Should the Asrai fade from the Old World the beauty of their existence, a recordless history of leisure and frivolity without equal, will disappear, leaving the clamoring, scrabbling bustle of the outside world without counterpoint or enlightening example. It is a dark time. But even in the deep gloom of autumn, a hope flickers. A whisper on the winds, melodious like the clinking of tea cups on saucers.

Wood Elves soon.

>>156857184
They tend to be a bad thing if the only people having kids are foreigners

>>156857120
How is Europe not dying?

>>156849609
>Reminder: Grace is a slut.
ftfy

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Why do I love Vlad so much?
It's pretty simple when I think about it.
Vlad isn't just the best character in the Warhammer world, he might just be the greatest character of all time.
Just imaging him riding through the swamps of Sylvania, the wind in his hair, his mighty steed below him.
As he rides through the World's Edge Mountains, the Lahmians swoon at his very scent.
They know how he smells, the essence of his smell is sold in Marienburg under the the name of "Carstein Orgasm."
The very nature of Vlad is mystery.
Could he be playing a deeper game than even his creator realizes?
The answer is yes, he has transcended such boundaries as the written world, and has free will to do whatever he sees fit.
However, Vlad is filled with such guile, such arcane craft that he does not even use these powers.
Why, you might ask? You will never know, for the mind of the Vlad is not one that is easily penetrated.
Vlad is such a force of nature in his realm that nothing can truly touch him, the only thing keeping him bound to the page at all is his will to exist within the preordained boundaries of his world.
Vlad is not only beyond the comprehension of us, he exists within a plane of true focus and beauty.
Observe his playful smile, his gorgeous and rippling biceps, his gallant nose, and most importantly, his eyes.
His eyes, like pools of saffron, provide the only glimpse into the true machinations of Vlad. Do not stare into them. Many good men have gone mad in the attempt.
Vlad is not just a character, a formless collection of words and images, he is himself is the binding that holds the Warhammer world together.
Without Vlad, the entire Warhammer world, the entire Games Workshop as we know it crumbles.
The Reik would stop flowing without Vlad, Athel Loren would become a desolate crater, and Norsca would melt without his frosty gaze.
These are just of a few of the reasons why I like Vlad so much.

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>>156857578

>How is Europe not dying?

And what makes you think it is dying? Because the street you grew up at doesn't have as many families as before? Minimum wages are going up, population is growing, unemployment is doing down.

>>156857505
The free faction has always been Bretonnia you memeing mongoloid

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>>156857779

>>156857818
Population is growing because of immigration, it's a bad thing if the only growing groups are non-Europeans

>>156857905
let me dream ;_:

>>156858008
It has been confirmed by GW's magazine that it's brets

>>156858093
shut the fuck up

>>156854063
>mos

>bloated stacks

>quality

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>>156857953
>Horses
>Not riding velociraptors

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>>156858461
B E S T
__L
__V
__E
__S

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>>156832008
How did that black couple get 2 white babies

>>156858643
Cucked by BWC.

>>156858643
slave trade

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>>156858643

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>>156858461
Looking at the art, I never appreciated how well the new Wild Riders helmets strike a balance between High Elf and Dark Elf design desu

>>156858643
BLEACHED

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1-11 Franks followed by Charlemagne
12-22 Suebians followed by Asturias
23-33 White Huns followed by Avars
34-44 Garamantians followed by Cordoba
45-55 Jutes followed by Danes
45-66 Langobards followed by Lombards
67-77 Picts followed by Mercia
78-88 Saxons followed by Westphalians
89-00 ERE followed by theme of Sicily

Please be Romans

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>>156858461
Elfwars will be so much fun.

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>>156859194

Do you think that high elves and dark elves will get free doom stacks every 5 turns to support their lore of making up their population and numbers?

>>156857818
Because brown people apparently.

Fucking retards.

>>156859282
Kek, probably.
Maybe they'll just respawn like a horde faction.

>>156859194
>machineguns everywhere
>velociraptors on the flanks
>whilte lions pouncing the front lines


Yeah its gonna be good

>>156858380
Oh yeah, forgot about that.

DaC is better in every way then.

DaC or MOS

>>156857512
I love this pasta. It brightens my day in this cold, rainy weather. Thank you for posting it, Anon.

>>156859780
see >>156859760
>>156854063

>>156859826
Oh damn

So DaC then

But are the bloated stacks really that bad in MOS

>>156859602
>Kickass monsters like hydras and tons of new aerial units
>Elf vs Elf unit banter
>Also Lizardmen
Can't wait.

>>156859950
>High elfs vs Dark elfs banter
>"NIGGER ELFS"

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>there's not really that much to say...............yet

Ok so it feels safe to say no Wood Elves for awhile (2+ weeks). Well gives me a shit load more time to play this Civ 6 preview + full game at release.

>>156860070

How come Grace didn't get fired?

Is she fucking someone at Sega?

>>156860070

How can one company fuck this up so hard?

Just come up and post your fucking schedule if you are going to shit all over the community.

>>156859950
>unit banter
Thanks for making me remember S2 General's speeches and that we're never ever getting them back.

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I really, really, really just need to fucking vent. Because Steam is so fucking racist and misogynist, and Valve seems to refuse to want to get up off their lazy asses and fix it.
I'm a huge fan (Or rather I used to be a huge fan) of the Total War franchise, but one of the biggest gripes I've been having with the newer games is how whitewashed and streamlined everything's become. This really starts to show up after Shogun 2, and is a big reason why I'm not planning on bothering with future games . This is especially bad in Rome 2. Egyptians are Arabian looking even though Egyptians at that time period would've still looked ethnically "Black". Rome is 100% white for some reason. It's really, really embarrassing. So, thankfully, I've been able to find a few mods that corrected that:
http://i.imgur.com/ep2Fk3L.png
... Then I scrolled down to the comments:
http://imgur.com/9PPwOcj
Then I was like, "Oh, this can't be a pattern, there has to be another mod that maybe doesn't have a trash comments section-"
http://i.imgur.com/RvkwtMD.png http://imgur.com/9PPwOcj
GOSH. And so I went and checked this other guy's mods. Not only are they downvoted as hell, but...
http://imgur.com/QN9Otwo
So I went to the guy's page, and I noticed that he did a really interesting drawing of an Egyptian God...
http://i.imgur.com/TqxQSE5.png
Y'all Know what's coming
http://imgur.com/kKV3ql9
The worst part is that it's not even just this game that has this bullshit.
http://i.imgur.com/I128urs.png http://imgur.com/qj1DTMC
The same dude ended up doing a review calling out all of the racist comments. Just look at his "liked" ratio:
http://i.imgur.com/p08QOGy.png http://i.imgur.com/xkg9ipI.png
So at this point I'm 100% done. For the record, I actually HAVE reported all of these comments to Steam Support, but because Steam Support doesn't actually moderate for shit, these comments are still up. I just can't take it anymore.

>>156860198
Don't forget Rome 1 and Medieval 2's as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCR8xV7fb5w

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>>156860210
>mfw I read your pose

>>156860210
Woah there, buddy, did you forget to take your Ritalin?

>>156860384
post*

Sorry, I'm tpying drunk

>>156860298
M2 is the absolute best, especially with an insane general.

>>156860452
>drunk
>not even 14 o bong
Fucking degenerate

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>>156860210

>>156860107
The only reason she's there in the first place, is because she's a cute girl (at least, for britbong standards)

>>156860167
But it's already posted :^)

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Would you fight and die for this emperor?

>>156860070

Then the update better be fucking huge.

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>>156860736
>Grace
>cute girl

>>156859925
>>156859780
>DaC
200 New units
26 factions with their own cultures and politcal power
New descriptions for each faction.
Lore accurate leaders and generals.
Over 120 new traits and ancillaries
Over 250 events with unique pictures and consequences.
Invasion mechanic(Jihad/Crusade basically) used by the forces of Melkor with over 45 settlements that can be targeted.
A brand new lore accurate map
New climates and fixes to everything vanilla third age.
New AoR system for units and availability
Unique UI's for everyone
Custom and official music for each faction
New faction symbols
Important lore characters can reappear such as Glorfindel for the elves of Imladris. He and Elrond can solo stacks of goblins.

>>156860813
>Anime degenerate

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>>156858180
;^)

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>>156860764
Definitely!

>>156856503
>clear that its a big update

Just because someone takes a lot of time to do something and doesn't keep you posted doesn't mean they are being diligent and making great strides.

You are putting too much confidence in the beastpath/brayherd devs to be honest desu

>>156860167
>Barely two months without releasing paid DLC
>"How can one company fuck this up so hard".

Is this general just completely full of fucking shills? Do you fucking want to be nickel and dimed every month?

Jesus christ. You people are pathetic.

>>156859780
Reddit says MOS, go with it

>>156861036
Constant daily updates on 3 DLC's for the last 17 days in a row. 2 encrypted DLC's added. Sometimes at 6am in the morning GMT there updates. Steam keys have all been updated. Mac/Linux additions all added to database for the first time. Team is purposefully avoiding the elf and bret subject.

Big update is imminent. At the rate it's going it will be 50+ days since last DLC as when they announce it's usually 14 days later they actually release it.

>the last thread died at 300 replies

t-thanks Warhammer....

>>156860880
Your usage of degenerate is a little off.

The pursuit of 2D is ennobling and wholesome, anon. By contrast, grace is a 3DPD with dyed hair and a nose piercing. This may be why she opposed the release of the 2D maidens of Athel Loren.

>>156861197
Did it die on it's own? There was some shitposting so maybe it was set to autosage.

>>156861239
Degenerate

>>156861197
It was autosaged becose of your shitposting

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>>156861197
Nothing to post about. We all got too hyped so decided to drink and eat whilst crying that the genocide of elf males and mass rapes of elf sluts has been delayed ;_;

My Dawi will have their revenge.

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What are YOU going to do when Sea people come back?

>>156861585
Shitpost

>>156861145
But /twg/ told me that DaC was better

>>156861804
It was better for a little while IIRC. It was way faster.

>>156861182
>CAdrone in full damage control mode
I'm gonna screencap this for future shitposting purposes.

>>156862048
But >>156860830
>>156858380

Why is empire so antifun?

>>156862225
Because they got several hammers but no solid anvil.

>>156862223
Been a while since I played any of the mods. That is what I remember.

>>156862225
But that's not true.

>>156861197
not really, some butthurt janitor set it to autosage for free

>>156862297
Spearmen with shields hold out really well from my experience. They might not get a lot of kills but they haven't taken much damage either when the battle is done.

>>156862225
>Empire secessionist have invited ____________ to take arms against you!

So I know halbardiers attack slower than spearmen with shields and swordsmen but does spearmen without shield attack just as slow?

>>156860210
Q U A L I T Y

>>156862469
Someone should really make a mod that limits war invites. Sometimes it gets really ridiculous.

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>8 (EIGHT) days since the 30th
>AE CAMPAIGN STILL NOT RELEASED

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No ones posting campaigns anymore
Its just shitposting about DLCs
There's other entries besides Warhammer, you know

>>156862852
wh_main_emp_spear_0 (no shields) has an attack interval of 5.7, while wh_main_emp_spear (shielded) has 3.8. Halberds are 5.5. Dunno if the unshielded ones have more ranks attacking at once though. You can check all this yourself if you download the assembly kit.

>>156863476
>spearmen without shields slower than halberds

Sigmar why. They might have a bigger attack length as you say though.

>>156863384
No AE till December.

>>156863443
Its so hard to focus on anything except for the imminent NEET elves

I just want to take it easy and maybe bully karak norn
I

>>156863443
The previous thread was mostly shitposting about entirely dlc-unrelated things.

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So which factions do you think will be the most comfy once Warhammer is complete?
I'm thinking Wood Elves and "edge of the map" factions like Lizards and Tomb Kings will be pretty cosy.

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>>156863707
Life is suffering.

>>156859117
It should be saxons followed by mercia...

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>>156864065
HElfs. Dat island comfyness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5Nbm8RNd9c
1850-1900 Total War game when?
The period basically World War 1 style tactics with trenches and cover usage but without widespread machinegun usage so troop movement can be more forgiving for the Total War engine

>no DeI 1.2
>no AE campaign
>no MK campaign
>Mafia3 is shit
>Forza 3 is broken
>EU4 RoM 3 days off
>Civ 6 13 days off
for fucks sake

>>156864145
>poor anon doesn't know

:(

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>>156863443
Vlad, being the first of his line, is extremely overpowered.

Vanguard deployment makes both enemy artillery and reinforcements a complete joke to deal with.
Coven of Undeath is absolutely broken. Fresh unit turns upgrades to high silver in the short span of like 10 turns.
Cloud of Horror + Restless Dead means you can easily catch enemy armies.
And on top of that he's an extremely good brawler with his Blood Drinker and Carstein Ring.

I'm growing bored of this campaign. Steamrolling Empire, Chaos starts neutral with VCs for some unknown reason, Kislev grew into a real powerhouse in this compaign(#3 after Orcs and myself) and is btfoing Chaos left and right.

>>156864584
This is the first campaign post since about 10 threads

t-thanks Warhammer....

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>>156864065
>hich factions do you think will be the most comfy once Warhammer is complete?

There's only one faction completely dedicated to the concept. High Elves reject the mantle of comfiness so they can world police.

>>156864181

Probably this desu.

Ulthuan is probably one of the most safest places to be whenever dark elves aren't launching big campaigns inland.

>>156864584
the first Chaos invasion is a joke, wait for Archaon and buddies to show up, also, Vampires get forced into war with Chaos when that happens

Vlad makes the campaign a joke tho

>>156864331
I'd very much like an empire 2 with at least america and africa fully open with a strong focus on colonization.

>>156864331
The main problem with that period is that it doesn't fit with "Total" War unless you keep the campaigns limited to certain conflicts. Most of the wars were limited at that time; more about influence than territory.

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>>156864181
This probably. Once you wipe out perfidious Delfs you're on a paradisical Not!Atlantis and will be pretty much unassailable provided you maintain a strong fleet.

Also I love White Lions. Elves using axes isn't something you often see.

>>156864904
>Most of the wars were limited at that time
FotS didn't seem to give a fuck about that, more people die in a single battle than the total number who died during the entire Boshin War.

>>156864584
>Total War has DLC power-creep

This is not new.

>>156864904
I don't know whether that's too much of an issue. Total Wars have always been alternative histories anyway unless you're an autist who likes restricting themselves to historical borders like me

>>156864995
>only 3500 dead
Huh

>>156864995
Yea, but at least FotS is still only Japan, the war being too extensive doesn't result in some nation blobbing way outside it's reasonable territories.

>>156865118
But there's a difference between creating huge empires in a time where that was a thing and blobbing after the modern nation states came into being. The former is a somewhat believable "what if", but the latter isn't. There's a reason other nations ganged up on everyone who tried conquering Europe.

>>156865042
Neither is it new for Warhammer
>Buy our overpowered new Units for 20 dollars a model! They won't get nerfed to uselessness in an update we swear :^)
Of course when it comes to space marines they never get nerfed as that would hurt revenue and more expensive more ridiculous tacticool shit gets churned out for them

>>156865257
>There's a reason other nations ganged up on everyone who tried conquering Europe.
You could introduce a mechanic similar to realm divide, where the major European powers will slap your shit if you start stirring trouble in Europe, but will mostly leave you alone if you're just colonizing Africa and America.

>>156865297
Good thing I like space marines

>>156865257
You can just implement a Napoopan style of territory acquisition where territories that are drastically culturally different decide to hate you forever and rebel constantly, forcing the creation of satellite states

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>>156865257
That's a valid point, but I still wouldn't mind seeing a Total War: Victoria with some totally ahistorical empire building mainland Yurup, I've always played Total War more for the empire building that the history itself.

>tfw no qt empressfu

>>156831416
Do I played a friendly game the other day against my brother .

I was rolling with carthage and my brother picks MCMAKADON

Ohshitwhatshouldido

He's host and sets up the map.

Pretty flat
Only tree line is on the flanks on my side.
>Perfect.

I know my brother is a pike whore
But an aggressive pike whore.

Stack my army with some African pikes and cheap gaulic and iberian swords. Two sacred band and cartaginian hoplites

I know I cant beat him on the foot slogging

Make my general a noble cav

Grab 2 other shock cav and two elephant
Finish off my list with some skirmmies.

Deploy my army in between the two tree lines deploy my shock cav and general in full view

Drop elephants in the trees.

I see that just ahead of me is a bit of a choke point on the map. A small dipped between two hills.
Double time my army up.

Slowly peal my two shock cav off into the trees to the right.
Elephants slowly making their way up the left.

I finally get proper vision of my brothers army.

Companion cav general
Shitizen cav x2
Aspis cav ×2
Foot companions ×2
Thorax pikes ×4
Two shield barers at the flanks
Thorax swords and royal peltasts
Filled out by skirmmies and some light shock cav.

>God fucking DAMNIT

He's marching towards me.
His pikes are 5 ranks deep vs mine at 3
Have my gauls held back as filler and my iberians are my flanks sacred band held back to guard my skirmmies

At the point my elephants and shock cav are well behind him.
Still hidden

He sends out his shitizen

Get javilied to death, both break and run
Brings out his slingers and starts hammering my pike line

>Fucking Rhodes

he's still Marching slowly
Thanks to the dip he will have to break up his lines to flank me

He notices this too and puts his shock cav the flanks of his center and one aspsis each on the left flank and on the right flank.

Contact is made in the center
All my pike lines are taken up and holding.

Cont.

>>156865473
That could work. I hate to say it, but they could probably take a leaf out of Paradox's book for that.

>>156865514
This might work as some minimally sufficient solution too.

>>156865297
>he seriously thinks GW decides to buff new stuff instead of randomly statting it
>he seriously thinks SM are OP because they sell

SM have almost always beena verage and there's plenty of new stuff coming out that no one ever takes because it sucks, every year.

>all this wait
>for the holy trinity of horde/fightiness/beastpaths

Good lord, CA is so incompentent

>>156865627
I'm not saying that SM in general are OP, they're just easy to play
It's the extra special snowflake shit they scheme up and sell for 80-200 dollars that have rules which obviously weren't playtested. Also GW always comes out with new units with new models being very powerful as the models need to sell. Once the hype has died down the nerf happens.

>>156865673

We can only hope the wait is because they are working on the Neet elfs so that they aren't missing units like beastmen

Capthcha: Mexico Gors

Gentleman
How do we make luminarks viable for anything other than taking half of a lord's health then getting shut down by a stray knight?

>>156865748
>Also GW always comes out with new units with new models being very powerful as the models need to sell.
Because the baby carriers and centurions were definitely OP.

>Once the hype has died down the nerf happens.
You make it sound like that's some quick to happen stuff that happens after a few days of high sales. There's no touching the rules until the new codex which happens years later.

GW stats are a joke and any OP unit/combination happens by chance. SM are the poster boys but instead of being above average like the fluff states they're the basic ground, they have low numbers, pay a lot for what others get cheaper and the whole meta is about going with their high save by throwing a shitload of dice at them instead of paying a lot of points for the overcosted weapons that are supposed to counter them.

>>156865297
not really
>Here buy the Beastmen DLC, it includes some sick magic tricks like Devolve :^))))
>Proceed to nerf it to uselessness

>>156851112
>tfw you realize hammer and anvil or rolling the carpet has been basically 80% of strategies in field battles

>>156866042
That's exactly what I was saying though

>>156866102

80%?

More like 100%, a battle usually goes like this:

>infantry engage
>move straight shooties to the flanks so they can rack up more kills
>Cav on Cav, if you win the Cav engagement you proceed to do intercourse in the enemies flank until they rout and you win

Total War sucks for strategies, you can't trick the AI properly to pull tactics that depend on trickery

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>>156866153
shit, my bad

>>156866273
Well there's other strategies possible in real life, but even in real life a shitton of field tactics are, more or less, either buildup to hammer and anvil, preventing hammer and anvil, or executing hammer and anvil.

>>156865593
Brother starts moving in his two out ter flanks around the hills
His aspis is reaching around to my back lines
Deploy my sacred band
He moves his shock cav around the hills now

Watch "Initial D - Deja Vu" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/dv13gl0a-FA

My shock cav bursts out of the tree line to his left
Followed by my elephants on his right.

They crash right into his two wings that are still moving around the hills

Full panic on his right flank.

Breaks no a single elephant down

His aspis charges into my elephants

Follow them in with sacred band.

Pull my iberians from my left flank around the hills and slam into his center line.

I'm losing hard on the left though.

Pull the elephants out of the cav fight and leave it to the sacred band

I lost a couple elephants

Nbd though they aren't broken.

Crash my elephants into his left wing followed up by my general and the gauls

Half of my pikes have broken and ran by this point but the iberians are turning it to a stalemate I pull my general and what's left of my two shock cav out of the fight and wheel around to break his pikes

He quits as soon as his general died to an elephant
That was my morning twg

How was yours ?

>>156865593
>>156866378
what

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>>156852918
Did somebody say Grace?

>>156865928
They're viable for more than that. Point them at a well armored units and watch them melt. If it gets taken out by cav early on it wasn't well enough protected. It should be a centerpiece unit if you bring it.

>>156866439

I had a luminark that was shut down after getting hit by some knights that went through my infantry.

I got fucking pissed since I could not shoot with it anymore for the rest of the battle.

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>>156865593
>>156866378

>>156866613
I hate to meme on you, but git gud.

>>156865579
Emily is cute! CUTE!

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>>156866741
Oh, she's more than just cute...

>>156866880
>that scene
Oh God, muh dick...

>>156865928
The Templehof Luminark is pretty viable for mp. The net ability is very useful + it can snipe enemy lords/heroes pretty well

AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ______ROME______

>>156865928
Luminarks can one-shot some lords and are great against slow enormous things. They are already a really nice unit other factions would love to have.

>>156865949
>the whole meta is about going with their high save by throwing a shitload of dice at them instead of paying a lot of points for the overcosted weapons that are supposed to counter them

But AP3 weapons are stupidly common, to the point where Space Marines not in cover will get mown down almost as easily as Guardsmen. In fact the Imperial Guard's Leman Russ comes fitted as standard with a gun that can (and will) gib most of an uncovered ten-man Tactical Squad in a single shot.

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>>156867249
>tfw killing 70 goblins/orc boyz and take a good chunk of hp from the enemy lord in one shot

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>>156868345
>tfw it whiffs and misses entirely, shooting down some bird six million miles away

>>156868647
Not with that gold rank.

Does Sarthorael show up in the Beastmen campaign like he does in the Chaos campaign?

>>156866417

Never forget the sacrifice for memes.

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1-5 Picts
6-0 Langobards

>>156869246
Do not convert.

>>156868847
No. You could say Hochland is the end game bad guy.

good mods for a dwarfen campaign?

mainly cosmetic

>>156870419
yeah
>larger dwarves
lmao manlets

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>mfw fighting vampire cunts

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>install some recommanded mod of Attila
>play saxon
>attack romans, outnumber them
>kill their units pretty quickly
>their 2 generals hold on surrounded each by 5 units for 20 minutes and kill around 400 of my men
I just Alt+f4 and uninstalled

>>156870975
Nice floppy hat, fag.

>>156871072
I bet you use a steel helmet, you prancing lala homo man

>>156870987
>nordic band

>>156871072

>there are people that unironically install floppy hat removal mods

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>>156871072
foolish mortal

>>156870987

>nordic bands

The shittiest units in the entire franchise?

>>156870987
>installing mods before playing vanilla

Did archers really use heavy shot or is just some meme to make huns even more OP

>>156870987
dumb frogposter

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>>156871072
>Not liking floppy hats
Imagine having such shit taste...

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>>156870987

S A X O N
H
I
T

>>156871759
>floppy hats
>floppy sleeves
Might aswell rename to Firequeers of Fershlongen.

>>156871759
>floppy hats on handgunners
good
>floppy hats on greatswords
bad

>Empire is NOT 16th/17th century HRE
>they have no pikes
Why? I realize that a pikemen tercio would probably not hold up very well against giant insane husks of muscle and steel like Orcs or Chaos warriors but it would be surely much better than basic spears.

>>156864181
>>156864965
I cannot fucking wait for White Lions. Had tons of fun with them in Warhammer Online and I love their tabletop models.

Ninjahund is streaming a TWW tournament if you want to see some mp battles.

>>156872103
The Empire barely has enough money to give their troops uniforms

>>156872103
considering most Empire fights against 'pikeable' enemies happen in dense forests, pikes lose a lot of appeal

>>156872103
They had pikes in earlier armybook editions.

Nuln fielded notable pike regiments, in addition to their masterwork gonnes.

But GW loves streamlined rosters, and I guess CA only cares about 8th edition. BotET has them though.

>>156872021
>completely missing the point of greatswords in Warhammer

I don't own Grim and the Grave yet all the NPCs I fight are allowed to have Grim and the Grave units. Since I don't feel like buying Grim and the Grave (I want to save my money), there any mods that would remove Grim and the Grave units from NPC use?

>>156872662
When is BotET gonna get updated

It always crashes when I play as a chaos faction and I attack a settlement on Norsca

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>>156872021
>Greatswords aren't the floppiest infantry in the army
The higher rank you are the more puff, sash, feathers and facial hair you get.

>>156872724
What's the point of greatswords in Warhammer

>>156872982
To look stylish

>>156872724
>>156872930
just saying they look better on handgunners

>>156872832
You can always try reinstalling or redownloading, in addition to the smaller fixes and the mini-patch.

I'm pretty confident in an October patch.

>>156872982
To be the most flamboyant and annoying cunt as possible. Men serving in greatsword regiments are all Chads locked in eternal dickswinging contest of who is the biggest badass. They typically don't even have much armor besides breast plate because retreating is for pussies.

>>156873226
I've already triend reinstalling M2 and the mod

It always crashes when you attack a settlement in Norsca, and the 1.01 patch doesn't fix it

It only happens there though

let it die
/twg/ will never be great again

>>156875127
No

Don't make it end like /eagg/

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>Updating...
>No new posts

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>>156875127
>>156876242
What killed us?

>>156875229
East Asians are all sluts anyway

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Dead thread again huh?

Not that that's anything.... I hope we hear about the next historical title rather sooner than later

>>156876284
>What killed us?
Warhammer was a mistake.

>>156876242
Just wait until tuesday and I'm sure there will be more than enough thread activity when there's no announcement yet again

>>156876284
>LLQ was unironically one of the best characters in that entire game and arguably better that Lu Bu because she had better sweeping and meter building ability
>Guan YP with the retarded whirlwind bullshit is flat out better than everyone else in her faction
MEN ARE INFERIOR TO WOMEN

>>156876391
Slaneesh because she's a slut

>>156876391
The worst one

I have a propably stupid question:

After upgrading my PC i decided to buy Rome 2 EE.Steam Shop states:
>Emperor Edition is the definitive edition of ROME II

But there are still DLC to be bought? If i will buy it, I will still need to buy Blood and Gore and rest that is listed to really have full game?

>>156876486
yes because CA are scammers and Rome 2 was such garbage at release that they had to release a proper damage control version

>>156876486
Emperor edition is a version with lots of patchesn and it includes some campaign DLC, it does not include all of the DLC for Rome 2.

>>156875127
>/twg/ will never be great again
We're the champions of the /vg/ league at least

>>156876486
I forget what the hell EE actually includes but yes
That being said the way Total War DLC works is that none of the DLC are actually necessary so to speak - campaign packs add nothing but their separate campaign while faction packs literally just unlock the faction for the player, as the AI will use them regardless.

>>156876486
Emperor Edition is just a fixed version of Rome 2 and have extra camping

>>156876591
>>156876592
>>156876595
>>156876620
Thanks

>>156876284
NO CAMPAIGN

Every time i try to do any form of formation other than waiting with a line or 1 long attacking line on naval battles, the AI just swarms to the flank/smaller pincer and wrecks it before my other flank is even near them

what the fuck am i supposed to do when it comes to trying something non braindead in naval battles?

>>156876284
warhammer shitposters killed us


great game but awful fanbase

>>156876391
Her pendant looks vaguely like the eye of Tzeentch.

>>156876348
>>156876841
there's nothing wrong with warhammer you fucking spergs

>>156877017
>nothing wrong with warhammer

>>156876841
Same i can say about history

>>156877130
History games had the thread active

Warhammer has the thread deadder than it ever was

>le vlad meme XD
>le wood elves meme XD
>le dominated by le best elf meme XD
wharhammer fanbase is trash

>>156877130
I don't think we've ever been this dead to the point of falling off the catalog periodically under Rome 2 or Attila

>>156877130
form a coherent sentence you fucking bicycle

>le I know what I'll do to improve /twg/
>le I'll complain 24/7 like a fucking girl

le get a grip you fucking idiot

>>156877204
This thread was a fucking wasteland in the days between the last couple Attila DLC and Warhammer.

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>>156877317
Men are inferior to women.

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>>156877209
G O B L I N S

>>156877017
Warhammer attracted all the fat neckbeard autists from tg.

Warhammer fags are the reddit rats of /twg/ - they have brought the End Times upon us.

>>156877319
no it wasn't

>>156877401
>Implying this general hasn't been autistic forever
Welcome to /twg/ newfag

>>156877319
And still it's even less active now, after the release of the game.

Thanks Warhammer

>>156877258
thread got autosaged

>>156877447
there are different kind of autism and the warhammer one is the bad kind

>>156877401
No fuck off we don't fear autism, /twg/ split off from fucking /gsg/

>>156877319
No it wasn't, it was fairly active between slavs and WH. It didn't literally fall the fuck off the catalog.

>>156877491
Why?

>>156877496
It's actually because of all the newfags that Warhammer brought in, not necessarily /tg/. Most of the accusations levied at warhammer and warhammerfags don't even make sense when applied to /tg/.

>>156877426
>>156877503
>No it wasn't

Yeah it fucking was, but in your conviction to blame everything on "muh fantasy" you choose to ignore the facts, it seems.

>muh warhammerfags

>>156877607
>Why?
good question, it's not the first time it happened

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Let's just not talk about Warhammer anymore.
Ignoring how good or bad the game is, it's poison to the thread.

Where do you guys think the next history game will be set?

The only thing they said so far was something about scale, might it be a new Empire style game?
Big scale could mean literally anything though

Personally I'm hoping for Medieval 3.

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>yfw you realise the Golden Age of /twg/ was back when Gook was alive

>>156877710
>Yeah it fucking was
No it wasn't. I'm not blaming fantasy, I'm stating the facts. A lot of the old guard simply up and left due to the shitflinging around the release and a lot of the newfags didn't stick around because they're fucking newfags who got attracted by the fantasy name and the coolness, not because they liked TW.

>>156877710
There weren't many campaigns after slavs got old,but the thread was still active

>>156877842
It won't be medieval, they said it was a setting they never did before

renaissance TW with pike and shot WHEN

>>156877868
>A lot of the old guard simply up and left due to the shitflinging around the release and a lot of the newfags didn't stick around because they're fucking newfags who got attracted by the fantasy name and the coolness, not because they liked TW.

This.

t. old guard anon that left and only returns every other week to check if the thread is still dead.

>>156877842
>Where do you guys think the next history game will be set?
Wishful thinking? World-wide medieval 3

Actual possibilit? Empire 2 or some other pike and shot trash

>>156877842
better not be china

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>>156877951
The reason I can say this with confidence is that I only came back a month ago and don't post nearly as much. Newfags from WH, unlike those from Attila or R2, didn't stay.

FANTASY!

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>>156878002
>Empire 2 or some other pike and shot

Empire isn't pike and shot you faggot

Pike and shot is not trash

so apprantly you're not allowed to discussed the newest total war game here?

good job

>>156878102
Empire could've been good. It was just too ambitious for its own good.

>>156878104
No that makes you a newfag and the reason why all the old guard left.

>>156878104
>aren't allowed

You are allowed, the fact of the matter is that nobody is and the thread is fucking dead as a result.

First the newfags fling shit to the point that everyone else leaves and then they realize they don't care about Total War, leave and all that remains is a dead wasteland

>>156877951
90% of posts were autists sperging out about Fantasy being in /twg/. I guarantee you those weren't newfags.