/fgog/ - Fate/Grand Order General

>>156831935
>[7 Million Downloads Celebration! from 10.6 to 10.13]
- 7 day special login bonuses, summon ticket each day
- 1/2 AP for Interlude, Strengthen, & Mystic Code Quests
- Daily free FP summon is upgraded to 10x free FP summon
- Daily rewards have changed from Dragon Teeth to Unlucky Bones
- Leveled CEs will now retain their accumulated EXP when being used to reinforce another CE
- Great Success & Super Success Rate Doubled

>[7 Million Downloads gacha]
Servant
- 5* Jeanne D'Arc Alter [Avenger, Limited]
CEs
- 3* Fragarach: Increase star absorption rate by 200%
- 3* Reverse Moon of Heaven: Receive 1 critical star each turn, Increase debuff resistance by 5%
- 3* Hydra Dagger: Increase instant kill rate by 5%

>[Servent Strengthening Quests Part 5!]
- Sasaki Kojirou [Assassin]: Sense of Subtle Elegance B++: Increase critical star rate (3 turns), Increase star absorption rate (3 turns)
- Cu Chulainn [Caster]: Primal Rune: Increase NP gauge
- Caesar [Saber]: Incitement EX: Increase critical star rate (3 turns)
- Cu Chulainn (Proto) [Lancer]: Beast Killer: increases star absorption rate (3 turns)
- Gold Archer
- Gold Lancer
- Gold Saber

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>FP gacha

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Cancelled?

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Best boy.

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>tfw finally /jannualter/

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LIZ THREAD

Previous: >>156831935
>[Nero Festival ~2016 Autumn~ event from 9.28 to 10.10]
>http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/quest_event_20160928.php
- Farm medals to spend in the event shop
- Farm rose petals to spend in a depleting roulette
- 4* Nero (Saber) animation update
>Event CEs:
- 5* Joint Recital: +15% Buster/Crit damage, +1 Rose Petal drops [Shop]
- 5* Princess of White Roses: Guts [1 time, 1 HP], 10% starting NP charge, +100% damage during event [Rose petal gacha]

>[Nero Festival gacha]
Servants
- 5* Nero Bride [Saber, Limited]
- 4* Nero [Saber]
- 3* Caesar [Saber]
- 3* Romulus [Lancer]
- 3* Boudicca [Rider]

Limited CEs
- 5* This is My Honor: NP, Crit damage +15%, +3 stars per turn, +1 Gold Medal drop
- 4* The First Legion: Defense +8%, NP damage +15%, +1 Silver Medal
- 3* Lunar Cry: +10% Buster, -20% Debuff resist [Demerit], +1 Bronze medal

>News and Reminders
- Latest changes: http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php
- New vers - emulators, rooted androids, jailbroken iPhones&androids with developer options on are prevented from launching game
- Mashu Kyrielight's voice actress has been replaced with Rie Takahashi as Risa Taneda remains on hiatus to recover from illness. Taneda's other roles remain unchanged
- Class dailies have been updated to include new material drops
>New bond CEs:
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20161005


>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA (embed)

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk (embed)

>TLs Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/cJ9J0t45 (embed)

>Friendlist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q7PleXm4aQWpc0-fvUhS-p9LMoept7nc5WtwkCUX0os

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info

>Alternate servant/CE DB
http://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/servant.html

>CMs
http://www.mediafire.com/download/960gn6g6w2p0l8q/FGO+Material+I.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wj405jjjc9ly94e/FGO+Material+II.zip

>tfw you finally beat the Finale using Jannu Alter

>>156831996
What will you do when she comes out during some kind of Apo collab event and she's a 5*?

>>156832221
Until you can post faster than FP gacha anon, it will never be a Liz thread.

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PROTECT THIS SMILE

>>156832185
Are you on the spreadsheet, angra anon?

>>156832172
>Akiha is literally Saber with a wig
>Arc being trendy when her whole thing was she was weird as fuck
>Ciel is literally Blue Mashu
I will never not be mad

>>156832283
? ? ?

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Nobu a CUTE.

>>156832283
good job

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Is this the best scene in the Fate series?

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>>156832209
I'm so happy to finally have both
I want them to squeeze me gently from either side.

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What would /fgog/ prefer for a jew gacha featuring limited servants? Like last time 30 paid quartz and one guaranteed 5 star only one run per account
.
>Option 1:
Gacha split into to two gachas, like last time: Knights + Extra(Saber, Lancer, Archer, Ruler) and Horsemen + Extra (Rider, Assassin, Caster, Berserker, Avenger) that included the limited servants, possibly with event limited ones.
>Option 2:
3 Gachas with Story Knights + Story Ruler, Story Horsemen, Limited overall (includes event limited)
>Option 3
Class gachas, where you can only do one gacha.
>Option 4:
Quartz shop special (30 paid quartz) to buy 10 blank saint graphs and the BGS is filled with all currently released 5* and you get to choose. You can only buy 1 pack per account.

So what will NOBU's buff be?

>>156832419
I only want Dantes and Mordred Rider to return. Don't care about the rest

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>>156832373
really nigga?

>>156832343
How many Ferrari's does Takeuchi have now

>>156832402
>NOT MAPO TOFU

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>>156832294
Yea, she shines in the pre-nerfed environment. All those extra hits triggering her passive means she can spam the shit out of her NP, not to mention how much tankier she is especially on the last wave where most zerkers have no way of dealing with unavoidable damage.

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And there's my 2nd LB'd CE

>>156832493
2 or 3.
I know Nasu has a Rin one.

>>156832419
Option 4. Being able to pick the specific servant I want far outweighs the benefit of the other 9 rolls you'd get in a jew gacha.

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Pharaoh!

>>156832514
meant to quote >>156832373

>>156832463
>So what will ORION's buff be?
Fixed.

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>>156832373

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Sumanai will get 50% Buster buff for 3 turn in his Dragonkiller,screencap this

>>156832543
I meant post-nerf but whatever.

>>156832565
Fuck you
>>156832569
wait what really? I didn't think this shit was that profitable for them

>>156832373
It's not even the best scene in UBW

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(reposting once per thread in case Jeannefag's still asleep)

>>156765578
>>156767060
>>156767307
Since you started 2 weeks ago, you have one other option for Jeanne Alter: Repeatedly rerolling for her with new accounts and early-Fuyuki quartz. Make sure to set up the recovery code and password for your current account, so you can come back if all the rerolling still fails. (Of course, if you do get her, set up recovery for the new account too.)

...Or you can do >>156801525's idea and just buy an account that has her.

>>156832640
Oh good. I was very confused.

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>Caster Gil won't be adult Gil with Ko-Gil's personality
SHIT game

>>156832668
I want to FUCK this dragon

>>156832319
roll 30 tickets

>>156832321
I'm not, also I don't have useful supports until I level those, except my Manjew grailed and my Cuzilla.

>>156832341
>"No Mashu, you are the senpai"
>And then Mashu was immortal

>>156832681
Fate makes oceans of money, anon.

>>156832765
How do you know?

>>156832765
Gil is shit. All versions of him. Combining his various character traits in new ways will only result in new varieties of shit.

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>>156832373
Nothing in FSN even compares to HA

SEND HELP I STILL NEED A SHITTON OF MEDALS!

Cheat apk when?

>>156832882
I don't care about useful supports don't worry. If you want to add me669,604,971 I probably will accept the request tomorrow because it's 5 am here already

Post Bomberman

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>>156832714
?

>>156832419
Option 4. I prefer to choose what I want.

>tumblr gif
>trying to start shit
not even worth a (You)

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>>156833116

>>156832993
If by shit you mean adorable, I agree.

>>156833125
Is that really what UFO UBW looks like? Man that's fucking awful.

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i will show my dog love!

>>156832668
He'll get his Golden Rule changed into Das Rheingold and get a 3 turn taunt added to it.

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>>156833001
It's great how Saber and Iskander sound so serious and Gilgamesh is laughing it up in the background.

https://youtu.be/gcsMSmnPZ9c

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>>156833116

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I love this event for giving out cookies and being the first event in a while that doesn't give out laughable amounts of QP.

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>>156833302
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecSWVYBlb9U

>>156833104
Sent. Name 1057

>>156833315
>Taunt

Too complex for DW

>>156833302
>Gif

Samefag trying to start shit or just a retard?

>hasn't rolled a SSR Servant in over two months

Help

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>>156833478
>tfw dropped UBW at episode 2
HF has a different director so hopefully it's not ass but I wouldn't bet on it

Good night /fgog/

>>156833514
Added, thank you

Is it worth maxing Jack's second skill? I have it at 6.

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mfw im slowly starting to get used to Takahashi as Mashu and am starting to slowly forget Taneda

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>>156833729
>Shirou's heart wasn't thorned when killed by Lancer
>Gae Bolg is now a jagged electric tentacle instead of zig zagging spear
>Herk's can be cut by below B-rank
>Saber capable of evading perfect Tsubame Gaeshi
>No foreshadowing to projection magic
>Archer while he was alive and the anime made it look like Archer after he became a CG. The irony is that even before he became a CG he was doing CG work
>Durandal and Caladbolg missing from the big fight
>Archer still using UBW despite beginning to fade away from lack of mana in the beginning of the episode
>Archer summons UBW with blue stuff instead of the ring of fire
>Episode titled "Answer", pinnacle of the VN, is abrupt and rushed
>In Gil's second attack, every single lance was the same
>They toned down Gil's craziness in UBW to suit his newer characterizations in CCC
>Rin uses gandr instead of a gem
>Gil decides to kill Rin, then he decides not to, then he decides to pick up where left off with Saber, then he just leaves
>Shirou jump 50 feet in the air and deflect all the swords by hand
>Archer comes back after being impaled by several spears, after being out of mana and having cast UBW twice
>UBW changed from the awesome gears filling the horizon, swords as far as the eye can see and mist covering the ground to a grey hill with a few swords.
>Final ep was supposed to demonstrate that Shirou was going to be different from Archer since he is supposed to metaphorically take more steps than Archer did. And then what ended up in the episode almost implies the direct opposite.

>>156833668
I went my first five months playing this game without a 5-star. Suck it up.

>>156833638
I think you know now.
>>156833729
>>156833807

>>156833793
I didn't even realized they changed VA until you pointed it out.

What's the best CE for jeanne alter?

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Will I be able to get all the Mashu CEs in 3 months? I'm farming the lottery for prisms and burning 3* exp.

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>>156833880
>less then a minute apart
>samefag

>>156833807
>>Archer while he was alive and the anime made it look like Archer after he became a CG. The irony is that even before he became a CG he was doing CG work
I don't know what you're trying to say here.

>>They toned down Gil's craziness in UBW to suit his newer characterizations in CCC
This one I'm okay with.

>>156833992
>exp is still there

The fuck are you doing?

>>156833478
>>156833729
Probably. I don't know if UBW's director was pressured to stretch out every fight scene to pad out episodes or he just doesn't understand the concept of "show, don't tell", but all of the important fights in UBW are poorly paced even if they look good.

Even DEEN animated some of the fights better despite being a worse adaptation overall, most notably the Shirou vs Archer fight.

>>156833992
There are another 500 Prisms in the shop for 1 gold medal each.

>>156834098
>Buying EXP with Prisms
That's only for fools and the desperate.

>>156834167
This is coming from the retard who bought fous with prisms.

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>>156833976
Maxed Summer Time Mistress
50% NP
Crits up 20%

Her main job is to get her NP off and get as many crits off as possible. Not the strongest Crit CE but 50% is too good to pass up on

>>156834098
EXP is grindable, Mashu is limited.
>>156834167
Yeah, already got that too.

>>156834152
You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>156834304
Prove me wrong.

>>156834098
Burning 200 Silver Exp to buy 50 Gold EXP is a net loss.

>>156834152
Judging from what else Miura has worked on, he is just a shitty director and should never have been given the project.On the other hand, Sudous resume isn't much better.

He is apparently a gigantic Sakura fag though so here's hoping he goes the extra mile.

>>156834098
You only do that when you not want to waste time

>>156834152
>Even DEEN animated some of the fights better despite being a worse adaptation overall, most notably the Shirou vs Archer fight.

No, go and watch that movie again. the only thing they did better was Shirou vs gil because ufo wanted to make a cool fight more than sense

>>156833976
the joint recital CE from this event is actually really good for her as it provides 20% buster and crit damage at max, though this assumes you'll be able to feed her stars.

>>156834152
put your fucking trip on CookingPriest

>>156833850
How many do you have now?

>>156834042
>I don't know what you're trying to say here.

Archer flashbacks before the big fight.

>He's depicted fighting desperately for the sake of trying to save a small number, or for the sake of justice. But it's ironic because what he's doing is not much different from the version of him that will eventually become a guardian (Archer).

Who the fuck is cookingpriest?

>>156834387
I dont know much about anime studios but doesnt ufo work mostly with his own people? kinda normal that they dont have big names or too much people that have a good resume.

>>156834387
Don't you FUCKING dare insult our beautiful Miura. He's the best ufotable director ever. (apart from Ei Aoki, Takuya Nonaka, Mitsuru Obunai, Shinichi Takiguchi, Takayuki Hirao, Shinsuke Takizawa and Shinsuke Takizawa)

>>156834476
Seven, though I've rolled both Jew Gachas. None of them are NP2.

>>156834521
MAL faggot that shitposts on /a/ under the name "Fai".

>>156834514
I dont remember too much about the anime, but wasnt the archer flashback about his CG work and his dead only?

>>156834521
Anyone who didn't like the UBW anime is known as cookingpriest.

>>156834581
Both Miura and Sudou have done most of their work outside of Ufo, but both of them have only been project leads within Ufo. Miura did KnK 6, the worst KnK movie, and Sudou did KnK 8 (alongside Miura), the second worse one.

Ideally the project would be given to Aoki but he quit Ufo after Zero.

>>156834705
Mirai Fukuin wasn't that bad.

>>156832373
VN? yeah

ufo fucked up

>>156834697
A fucking hater that shitposts about the UBW anime because it didn't adapted every shitty and insignificant little thing from the VN.

>>156834412
I prefer the UFO version because the DEEN version was just all melee and that made less sense than the other.

>>156834514
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of Archer's character. Its been known that he had to do unsavory things in life but he thought that being a guardian would allow him to actually be a guardian. Once he saw that it was more of the same slaughter without being able to save anything was when he broke.

>>156834521
Consider yourself lucky.

>>156834705
>Ideally the project would be given to Aoki but he quit Ufo after Zero.

Oh i always though it was weird that he didnt do UBW. Well a ln is generally more easy to adapt that a VN but it would have been better with someone that we know do a good job before.

>>156834227
>>156834436
Thanks for the ideas guys.
I'll try to get them both to 30 so i have both versions available

>>156834412
DEEN was more accurate with Shirou vs Gil, but I feel like animation quality was pretty bad, compared to Shirou vs Archer and Saber and Archer vs Berserker earlier in the movie.

The problem I have with Ufo's Shirou vs Archer is how the pacing keeps getting interrupted by flashbacks and monologues, and then getting interrupted again by Archer and Saber explaining to the viewer exactly what was just shown to them. DEEN adapts the fight faithfully, and it was animated fairly well to not break up the action

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmHjXCaN6wA

>>156834961
Ufotable chose UBW because is most solid from all routes and could be adapted without the need to be drastically altered.

Ufotable was always most of all interested in theme of heroic ideal. And even director himself stated that he wants focus on Shirou becoming hero. Thus UBW was simply most obvious choice for them.

>>156834886
It wasn't 6 and it's not really bad, but it is one of the lowest KnK movies.

>>156834152
Unpopular opinions time?

I also believe that DEEN's adaptations, even if poorly handled in terms of animation, were highly superior to what ufo tried to do with UBW.

>>156834908
For >>156834521
Sorry, I'm just so fucking angry that he's here too.

>>156834227
Jeanne doesn't give a shit about NP%, she generates it so easily it's not worth it when you can put on joint recital / victor and do more damage.

>>156835029
Explain

>>156835000
The route that needs the fewest alterations to be adapted is Fate, not UBW. Seeing as it has zero build up from previous routes, being the first route.

>>156835037
You'd think he'd give it a rest after all this time.

>>156835105
Please don't. This guy is so autistic it hurts.

>>156834974
At least Deen's version somewhat succeeds as a complimentary piece since it shows you the "action" part of that fight, while reading the VN gives you the context behind it (they also had to fit it in a 90 mins movie). The Ufotable one, on the other hand, is just a super drawn-out version of that struggle with some questionable changes, sloppy execution and an out of place j-pop song thrown in.

>>156835029
Well I think you are fucking wrong and like all things that get remade, people suddenly become fond of the original they originally thought was shit.
Ufotable adaptation has problems but it's not as retarded as DEEN's shit.

>>156835029
I don't agree with you.

The animation is atrocious in both the TV anime and the movie, they introduce plot holes, and the TV anime's attempt to shoehorn in bits of UBW and HF was awful.

ufoBW was far from perfect but it was better than the DEEN garbage.

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>>156833807
Please stop posting stuff like this.

I already removed this feeling of disappoinment and hatred from my mind regarding the adaptation and everything it couldn't deliver, please don't bring it back.

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>people are unironically wasting their time debating which of two gigantic turds was the worse adaption
Why bother? Both are shit and neither should be watched.

>>156835105
UBW is presented as a sequel to Fate/Zero, which just doesn't work, while DEEN had the flexibility of using Fate, which they adapted as introductory promotional material for the VN

>>156835284
>and the TV anime's attempt to shoehorn in bits of UBW and HF was awful.
That was Nasu's idea. It wasn't Deen's.

>>156835386
>UBW is presented as a sequel to Fate/Zero,
Because it is a sequel you dumb fuck.

>>156834974
>DEEN was more accurate with Shirou vs Gil

Are you fucking high or what? DEEN UBW did nothing. Literally fucking nothing. He casts the RM and absolutely nothing happens aside from Gil abruptly deciding he'd rather charge forward in melee and lose a straight swordfight without ever switching swords for no reason.

>The problem I have with Ufo's Shirou vs Archer is how the pacing keeps getting interrupted by flashbacks and monologues

Because that was the entire point.

>DEEN adapts the fight faithfully

DEEN showed a bunch of grunting and sword swinging, which was the least important part of the scene, and then Archer losing for no discernible reason since they cut out all the actual important mind stuff you claim was getting in the way.

>>156835084
It never hurts to get a NP faster just in case you get a turn where you can get a BBC and not miss it because you are a little short.

Besides, I care more about getting stronger crits than increasing buster damage.
It is easier to increase overall damage than it is to increase Crit damage so if anything I would probably use a Max Luvia is Mistress didn't exist as she gives the highest crits. Knight's honor while technically better lowering defense is not worth it as she is still somewhat a glass cannon.

>>156835423
Didn't Nasu wanna use Shielder plot but Deen decided to do Fate with scenes from UBW and HF to flesh out Caster more before she does barely anything in Fate route?

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>>156835473
This is the kind of person who liked UFO UBW

>>156835423
That doesn't mean it was good. And some of the changes that people complain about in the ufo adaptation were Nasu's idea as well.

>>156834974
>but I feel like animation quality was pretty bad
All the movie have that problem (shit looks worse that a fucking tv anime for fouck's sake) i as just talking about the adaptation of the fight

Its true that Shirou vs archer have pacing problems but i never wanted to watch a good fight, the vn fight wasnt that much of a fight anyway. I really liked the whole scene they did, how they show shirou looking at archers memories, ubw even if doesnt make sense lorewise, etc. Some explanations werent really necesary though.

This is worse than Melvin or cuckposting. Fuck this.

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>Nasu to ufotable's team: "stay night and Zero can respect each other but they are different works. This new anime will be Fate/stay night."
>Miura once UBW ended: "I tried to make a Zero sequel, hope you liked it xD!"

J U S T
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S
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>>156835473
Oh boy

You need to go back to MAL.

>>156834974
One of my biggest gripes with the UBW Archer vs Shirou fight is I distinctly remember the VN saying later in the fight Archer could just back away at any time and win the fight but kept charging out of principle of ideals. I don't feel like the anime conveyed that very well.

>>156833772
6 is fine. You normally won't use it more than once per battle. Only some of these exhibition matches have been the exception. Maybe raids too but personally I kill the boss way before I get to use it again.

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>>156835494
My favorite part of Deen Blade Works is that Shirou swings Caliburn against Gil instead of disarming him with UBW and charging at him.

Should I use double bride CE maxed to farm for medals? They seem to stomp everything/

>>156835514
>Besides, I care more about getting stronger crits than increasing buster damage.

But JR / Victor gives you that

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>>156835473

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Despite all the shitposting, I hope the one thing we can all agree Ufo fucked up was that Invisible Air is not an A rank Noble Phantasm

Official Typemoon Adaption Rankings

Elder God Tier
Carnival Phantasm

God Tier


Great Tier
KnK, Zero

Good Tier

Average Tier
Prilya 1/2, Canaan

Bad Tier
Prilya 3

Shit Tier
DEEN/Stay Night, UFO UBW

Doesn't Exist Tier
Turkeyhandle


Search your hearts, you know it's true

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Sounds like we are getting the first real HF trailer tomorrow.

>All HF promotion has been featuring Sakura
I love it though I wouldn't mind seeing Illya getting some love in the second movie promotion

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>>156835473
Chronologically? No.

>Zero
>Fate
>UBW
>HF
>Hollow Ataraxia

>>156835801
I wish we had a Tsukihime adaptation.

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>>156835801
CP season 2 never

>>156835595
Nasu doesn't undesrtand that things work differently in VNs and anime. You just can't make the same shit and think it's going to be fine. Zero was made first and that's the basis for the anime series so the only choice is to build on it and make UBW a sequel. Miura had the right idea.

>>156835626
This.

>>156835801
Canaan isn't an adaptation. It's a sequel

>>156835570
>ubw even if doesnt make sense lorewise,
See I don't really mind that one since even in the VN they say Archer is low on mana but he still manages to stay alive after Gil's attack, help Rin, project an Rho Aias to protect Shirou, and shoot Gil. All this and they don't even give a solid number on his mana. So the anime just switching out an Aias for UBW seems fine to me since they also give no hard number on his mana reserves.

>>156835783
That scene wasn't them fucking up a lore aspect. They needed a way to portray that Herc can revive since they skipped Fate, and did it by just having Saber murder him since Miura doesn't know what he's doing.

While this showed his ability, it went against the lore and made Herc look like a weak bitch who literally melts the moment he gets stabbed after not doing anything. All scenes with Herc after this have no tension since explicitly nerfed to shit Saber explodes him with no real effort, not that he does much afterwards anyway, but it's a waste of an antagonist.

>>156835783
Didnt nasu taliked about this at some point, dont remember too well.

Ufo didnt cared too much about some settting related thing though, probably because some of them could get in the way (like archer mana)

>>156835595
You realize Nasu was the one who wrote the connection and all? He even wrote the Waver scene even if he insisted the never met and weren't suppose to meet.

Nasu is a hack who always lies or changes his mind. He's probably a woman with how moody he is.

>>156835804
>I wouldn't mind seeing Illya getting some love in the second movie promotion

This, she's the main heroine of the route and they haven't even had her in promotional art yet.

>>156835747
Yes but is set at 25% maxed where a single Luvia starts at 25% and goes to 30% maxed.

Like I said getting damage up overall is easy as fuck but a extra 5% in crits is worth the sacrifice in a Buster buff especially when you can supplement it with the Arturia Mystic Code.

Just wanna let you guys know that I'm starting the translation on the Kiyohime doujinshi in earnest now. Might take an evening or two

>>156835867
You mean season 4

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>>156833992
We'll do it, anon.

>desperately bought 4*EXP cards to get Medea's third skill

Huge mistake.

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2am rolls are real.

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>>156836049
looking forward to it

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>>156836000
>she's the main heroine of the route
Anon don't even start it.
You are trying to start shit for no reason.

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>>156836000

>>156836010
but you aren't taking into account the damage on buffed damage buster crits with that CE, it's straight better.

>>156836215
No fuck you HF is just a butchered Illya route cut off halfway, because Nasu is a hack who rushed out his product.

>>156836000
Illya even fails at being the heroine in her own manga. Rin and Sakura destroyed her.

>>156835957
>it went against the lore and made Herc look like a weak bitch

I remember you! You went on a massive thread-long tirade about how him getting up after that and going on ahead made him a "weak bitch" (you really love those words it seems) despite the fact that the rest of the scene goes on the same and absolutely nothing else was changed.

You're fucking crazy, you know that?

>>156836116
I can't get over how much her flag looks like a cock

>>156835903
>Nasu doesn't undesrtand that things work differently in VNs and anime.
Why are you even saying this? Does Nasu's understanding of VNs and anime somehow make up for Miura being an awful director and not being able to deliver a good adaptation?

>You just can't make the same shit and think it's going to be fine.
So, let's completely forget about what people actually liked for the series and let's try this interpretation of Miura that fits in the timeslot, with awful pacing and everything else.

Do you know that Nasu's scripts even had instructions to where he would switch scenes to keep a good pacing? Miura only followed Nasu's script of ep3, yeah, that new scene he added.

Zero was made first and that's the basis for the anime series so the only choice is to build on it and make UBW a sequel. Miura had the right idea.
Then you are wrong just like Miura. As a prequel, Zero had the obligation to be in track with what stay night presented.

>Autist start asking about UBW
>thread ruined

Congratulation faggots

>>156835945
Yeah, i being calling bullshit since the vn but never cared that much, why would i care now when that let them put in a better place the fight?

>>156836010
>Jeanne np
>Buster crit

Nah

>>156836049
I love you anon

>>156836215
We all know Illya is the only heroine in that route. Wormslut is just a plot device and nothing more.

>>156835783
It's an A-rank attack made with a C-rank Noble Phantasm.

Busty rin CE or Another ending for Bride?

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>>156836000
I love Illya but this comment triggered me hard, please stop.

>>156835804
Thank god ufo is ditching those pupilless eyes. She looks stunning like this.

>>156835957
It also set up the inconsistency where
>Saber kills Berserker without even declaring the name of her NP
>Archer throws a bomb that doesn't even hurt Berserker
>"Wow Rin, now I'm interested in your Archer"

>>156836310
Ilya had her own route entirely seperate to HF. Ilya route was cut entirely, and Nasu decided to give Ilya an ending in HF to make up for it since she was still an important character who at that point had an h-scene. But her ending and h-scene ended up being cut as well.

HF doesn't have anything to do with her original route apart from probably a similar grim tone.

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>>156836379
>>156836310
Just because you don't like something does not make your opinion true.

>>156835987
Do you realise that Miura completely changed Nasu's scripts? Did you know that Shirou, Rin and Luvia were supposed to discuss Shirou's invitation to join the Clock Tower? Did you know that the final scene was also different, and Shirou was the one taking the initiative instead of Rin?

Yeah, that's Miura for you. What he believed it was right for stay night ended up being Miura's stay night and not UBW.

>>156836403
She's not really a crit Servant so Formalcraft is better for her.

>>156836403
Formalcraft.

>>156836383
It doesn't matter how strong the attack is. The VN already said that even if your attack was powerful enough to destroy the world, if it isn't A rank, Herc isn't taking damage from it.

>>156836354
>As a prequel, Zero had the obligation to be in track with what stay night presented.

Zero Anime isn't a prequel. It's a stand alone product.
Miura was a hack, but this is one thing he got right. FSN could only be adapted as a sequel because it wouldn't have worked otherwise.

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>>156836343
>there is no possible way two people could make the same observation about a scene
>no, it has to be the exact same guy who I've been lurking for and waiting for months to point him out
>also this anonymous poster who I happen to know is one person (trust me) is crazy, not me

>>156836343
Of course its him. His posts are literally filled with the same things he's been saying time and time again.

>>156835957
>>156836446
It triggered me when Herk just fucking tanked Archer's shot with no effort. In the VN he had to fucking swing as hard as he could to keep from dying.

>>156836446
That was a Nasu change. It was the prelude to show the way Excalibur works (through seals bullshit).

>>156836554
Do you even read what you're writing? If Zero is a standalone product, then it didn't need stay night. And if Zero really is a standalone product, then stay night also is one.

>>156836505
And the same for you. Wormslut isn't the heroine, she isn't even much of a character. Illya is the driving point behind the story and the most important character after Shirou.

>>156836551
And in the VN it was stated that an attack made with a C-rank Noble Phantasm can be ranked A.

>>156836616
With the way this general is I'd believe that over the bullshit greentext you put forth

>>156836116
Japan time or your local time?

>>156836750
Zero doesn't need UBW but UBW does need Zero.

Nasu trolled Miura in the sweetest way possible, even if it was a PA move. It's called Garden of Avalon.

>Nasu wanted Ufo to make a Fate route adaptation
>Miura threw a tantrum because muh rin
>Nasu being a polite Japanese man bowed and said it was for the best
>then wrote a short novel about Arturia and Merlin and Camelot to bundle in UBW BD which had Fate route ending as the most important and relevant one of the three routes which directly connects to FGO and big Universe and timeline crisis

EX Vengeance skills.

>>156836554
>Zero Anime isn't a prequel. It's a stand alone product.

No, thats actually one of zero problems that come from the ln. Even if some things are connected the whole thing doesnt feel as a prequel that much. Actually the only good thing that did in this part is kirei and gil but everything else doesnt connect that much with SN.

>>156836505
Sakura is just the consolation prize.

Is heracles better than oni banana?

>>156836640
Oh, Miura also fucked up that.

In ufo's anime, it looks like Hera just tanked Caladbolg II, which we all know is fucking impossible. That scene was pretty fucking stupid, so a question obviously appeared in the BDBOX Q&A thing Nasu always does, I bet he had to come up with this shit to cover Miura's fuck up.

There he said something like: "that scene? well, Heracles died and came back to life really fast!"

That's bullshit explanation, but not for the sake of being bullshit alone, but because Nasu was forced to came up with this shit thanks to Miura.

I wonder if Miura ever read the visual novel.

>>156836750
Zero anime doesn't need UBW anime.

But UBW or any FSN anime after Zero was produced needed to be a sequel to Zero.

You're completely not understanding how adaptations work and how the medium was different. UBW had tons of problems but that wasn't the real problem. The problem was the direction and pacing in general.

>>156836946
Yes, especially if you have his bond CE.

>>156836776
>Saber has B Strength and a C rank NP, kills Berserker with it's activation
>Lancer has B Strength and a B rank NP, cannot damage Berserker without buffing Gae Bolg with a Rune
Ufo retconned the defense portion of Twelve Labours just to show off it's resurrection portion early. Deal with it.

FUCKING CE DROP ALREADY I NEED TO MAX YOU

>>156836776
>And in the VN it was stated that an attack made with a C-rank Noble Phantasm can be ranked A.

Thats not how it works, they say that a C rank np can make damage equal to the damage make with A rank str, but the C rank np is still C and the A rank str is still A. If you try to kill herc with both only the A rank str could do something because god hand doesnt care about power, only rank.

>>156836803
Herc dying in that scene is an obvious change from the VN for anyone who isn't a secondary. Why he died in that scene is also obvious. It's a flaw that I've seen mentioned on /a/ a decent amount.

But anyone who points that out is one person? You seriously can't even comprehend the idea of multiple people picking up on that? Fuck, for all you know I just read whatever post that autist referenced that he's been stewing over for months and thought it was right, when in reality I only started browsing this general in the Zero event.

UFO UBW is not a complicated anime to pick out stand out changes in.

>>156837054
>cannot damage
Cannot kill a dozen times.

>>156836817
Mine, last night. So they're probably not really a thing

>>156836765
>isn't the heroine
But she is
The route is built around her circumstance.

It is similar to how UBW is considered "Rin's" route when it completely about Shirou and Rin is around to help push it forward with her connection between Shirou and Archer.

Just because you don't like a character does not mean she is not the heroine of the route.

>>156836946
Ibaraki is literally just a shittier Herc.

>>156836868
>>156837015
Fate/stay night got announced as a remake. It is a remake from the previous DEEN animes, that's the thing you guys don't understand.

Fate/stay night UBW never needed to be a Zero sequel, but that was imposed by Miura The Hack thanks to his inability to abstract himself from Zero.

And no, UBW doesn't have tons of problems as your friends at ANN think. It's only that you want every route poured in only one, and that will never happen.

>>156837307
Fug and I maxed her before Herc. I really fucked up this time AHAHHAHA

>>156836616
No, I'm pretty sure. You look back on the archive and I can see you bringing this up over and over and getting called out on how it's not such a big deal.

>>156836551
As you've been told multiple times: they had to introduce the idea of Herakles shrugging off lethal blows since Fate wasn't there to set up God Hand, so they buffed up the damage Saber could effect with that attack, a change that has absolutely no repercussions in anything else in the story.

>>156836510
>Do you realise that Miura completely changed Nasu's scripts?

Yah, I remember you too. You took the fact that Nasu's script was too long to fit the episode and had to be cut down and cam out with a long-ass conspiracy about how Miura went behind Nasu's back and changed everything he did to something worse because he's evil.

Also, you keep saying "scripts" even though he makes it clear he was nervous about writing that episode because it was the first TV script he had ever done. You're fucking crazy, and it's a very familiar type of crazy: you take something with some vague connection to truth, and splash out into a grand tirade about how Person A is the devil.

>>156837257
UBW is the Emiya route though.

>>156837367
>gameplay meme
My main assassin is Mata Hari when I have 4 gold ones.

>>156835804
>Sounds like we are getting the first real HF trailer tomorrow.
too soon, also UFO would be spamming the announcement on his twitter account

>>156836868
>Zero doesn't need UBW

Thats stupid, zero was made taking in mind DEEN fate anyway. You lose half of the point of zero if you know nothing about 5th war, kind of the point that secondaries that only know zero have so many problems.

>but UBW does need Zero.

And thats actually miura problem because UBW shouldnt need zero.

>>156837389
>he's actually trying to set up a anti-UFO UBW bogeyman because he can't handle the same flaw being picked out more then once in a year long period
It's like you are trying to make yourself look like a delusional autist.

>>156837234
Twelve Labours has 3 abilities:
>11x Guts
>Nullifies all damage below A rank
>Nullifies all damage from sources that have triggered the resurrection

Lancer can kill Berserker once before damage resistance kicks in, but rank is not the issue where that portion of Twelve Labours is concerned.

>>156837215
>But anyone who points that out is one person?

No, anyone who keeps bitching about that being such an important flaw and pointedly claiming that this turned what is otherwise a whole marathon of Herc being unbeatable into him being "a little bitch" is definitely you. Lore autism is one thing, but the over-dramatic waxing about how this ruined everything ever is very, very recognizable.

>>156837404
My point exactly, but if you ask most people who the heroine is it would be Rin because for all intensive purposes she is.

Same way for Fate it is Saber but that is different as it is more directly tied to her.

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>>156837367
Oni is still great, use her.

>>156837389
You really can't handle the idea that more than one person could have the same criticism that you disagree with, huh?

>>156837563
We all know that UBW is the Shirou route, but there was no real reason to remove all the Rin development from it.

>>156837563
Fate is the Caliburn route though.

>>156837367
Ibaraki is more helpful for team

>>156837663
It's impossible. I've checked the archives and the SAME EXACT WORDING is used by the same autist every time this discussion has come up.

>>156837546
I made a post about Hercs lore breaking death in response to a post about Hercs lore breaking death, with a single line about how Herc dying in his first entrance makes him look weak, which is a fact. The only person bitching and being autistic is you, for making this a big song and dance about how it's really one guy who has been doing this for months.

Complaining about someone over dramatising when you've made half a dozen posts about how you hate people criticising this scene so much that you can't stand the idea that more then one person can do it is pretty laughable.

>>156837718
kek

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>>156837428
They actually have been doing it more actively recently as I keep seeing this art of her on various twitter accounts. Not overkill, just enough that you can notice it.

Touken Ranbu has no signs of being there tomorrow so HF has to be there for something

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>>156837725

>>156837718
Illya said in a bad end that if Saber had enough prana to shoot a Excaliblast, Herk was done for.

>>156836985
>I bet

You just like coming up with the worst possible scenarios so you can rage wank at this, don't you? It's not about the story at all, you're deliberately looking for things to complain so you can get the indignation rush.

>Nasu was forced

In the VN, Herc turns around when he senses Caladbolg and that's all you see because the rest is Shirou pushing Saber out of the way. The scene is shocking because Herk is still standing after taking such a powerful blow, and the stuff you're complaining about makes no sense.

Are you saying something like an A-Rank NP can be simply parried away? Because otherwise, what happened in both cases is the same:

>Hera just tanked Caladbolg II, which we all know is fucking impossible

Yes it fucking is. What did you think happened in the VN? That an A-Rank Broken Phantasm was just effortlessly swatted away with a stone slab? He tanked it in both, thanks to God Hand.

>I wonder if Miura ever read the visual novel.

This is what it all boils down to, isn't it? You've designated Miura as a punching bag so you come with these ridiculous cryfests and longwinded fantasies just to bitch. Shit, I don't think UBW is perfect either, but you're a fucking obsessed faggot.

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Grand Order strikes again

>>156837971
>That an A-Rank Broken Phantasm was just effortlessly swatted away with a stone slab?
That's exactly what happened. Go and read the VN.

>>156835804
>HF announcement soon
>Sakura advertising

Pavarati soon, finally.

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>>156838015
I want to fuck this cute lady.

>>156837971
Holy shit dude, you are reaching super hard to defend that one scene. The VN explicitly pointed out that Herc had to swat at Caladbolg II because he sensed that unlike all the other arrows it was actually a threat to him, and so he struck it to keep himself from being damaged. Him just tanking it flat out in the anime is very much not in line with the original scene.

>>156837725
>>156837902
WILL HE EVER RECOVER?

>>156838072
>tfw only 1400 quartz saved
Will I make it?

>>156838161
Yes

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>>156838072
>tfw I won't roll that gacha beacuse I don't give a fuck about the wormslut

Feels good.

>>156838134
Why do people claim to have found evidence in the archives before actually checking, don't they know all it takes is a minute for anyone to have a look?

The amount of autism in this thread is pretty shocking already and there's another 500 posts to go.

when did overkill start popping up in gold?

>>156838161
At 900 right now

Thankfully I have a real job now so I can whale hard as fuck when she comes out just in case.

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>>156838015
Sweet, another TM artist drawing that lovely ginger girl.

>>156838123
Get your quartz and tickets ready then.

>>156833325
>pic

looks like some chink art

>>156837367
Just indulge in the madman strat and run all berserker

I leave the last thread after accidentally responding to some bait, only to see this thread off to a way more autistic start.

Reminder that evil cat is getting a buff today

Senpai please level the fuck up of your mommy skills.

>>156838814
I would if skill mats weren't such a chore.

>>156838971
Trading mats with friends option when?

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Is there any anime studio that can even remotely compare to our boy Ufo?

>>156838131
>The VN explicitly pointed out that Herc had to swat at Caladbolg II

The scene showed him turn to try and parry it because he recognized it as an attack that could hurt him. It does not show him successfully nullifying the damage at all. You only see everything blow the fuck up.


>>156836985
Also, here you are just some weeks ago:

https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/153051139/#153069295

You were in full-throttle hatefiction mode too:

>I figured out exactly why Miura fucked up that scene
>He had some intern read that fight and give him the rough outline of what happens, and the intern only skimmed the VN because he was too busy dealing with all the other shit Miura dumped on him
>So the intern got to the part explaining that a C rank NP is worth about an A or A+ rank attack, but then missed all the following dialogue explaining that Godhand would be resistant even to a B rank NP
>Then he read the graveyard battle scene and saw the line saying Arturia was lining up for a killing blow, and just assumed Nasu meant with Invisible Air

Like, all of this is just stuff you started imagining and went on and on about. You were actively writing real-life fanfiction about what you imagined happened so you could rage about this.

Are there enough servants for a Pokemon game yet?

WHY THIS STUPID CE WONT DROP AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

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>>156839750
I don't know what that's supposed to mean, but it reminded me that I saved this.

Everyone here seems like a huge autist with different triggers. Each one gets set off and goes on an autistic outburst over different things. Its a house of cards.

>>156840120
There's enough Touhou's to make a pokemon game about, or even several different romhacks and that full game that caught on awhile back. I think it was called Puppet Dance.I think when you have 151 you have the bare minimum for a Pokemon game.

Starters are obviously Arthuria, EMIYA, and Cu.

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>>156840120
And this.

>>156840127
You're the biggest autist here buddy.

>>156839656
Completely agree with what you said.

VNfags/orinigalfags are the worst. Especially in the fate franchise. They just never appreciate anything and act like the VN is some kind of words from God that can't be interpreted other way. The anime did good enough job at adapting faithfully and even surpassed the VN in some scenes.

inb4 "hurr hurr but they didn't adapt muh VN 100% alike." Yeah no then you should never watch an adaptation.

>>156840245
I can guarantee I'm not. Brain Treatment Nerofag is definitely one of the worst that I've seen though.

>>156840308
No, you are. You're just too autistic to notice. Everyone else here knows it.

>>156840127
Fuck you faggot I've literally never gone on an autistic outburst because I don't get that invested in shitposting or random conversations on an anonymous image board. Fuck you for implying I would. I don't have any triggers and I don't respond to bait. I don't get mad. You're just the same cunt always posting shit like this trying to convince people that everybody in the thread is as much of a shitposter as you. I already checked the archive and you've posted this exact same thing before just with different phrasing. Go back to MAL.

not even worth a reply, terrible bait

>>156840419
You seem to be going on an outburst right now. I'm not even talking about myself, I said it because I came into this thread and there was already some autistic conversation going on.

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Can we just go back to talking about waifus and power levels?

JUST GIVE ME THE FUCKING CE ALREADY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

>>156840608
cuck cuck cuck cuck

>>156840608
not at this hour, just come back later

>>156840498
That post was satire, bro. It's mocking the guy from earlier who kept accusing the other poster of being a samefag on a months-long shitpost campaign.

When will Jannu grace me with her presence?

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>>156840419
>Fuck you faggot I've literally never gone on an autistic outburst
>I don't have any triggers
>I don't respond to bait
>I don't get mad

You are now

>>156840265
This desu, you fags are lucky your poorly written porn got an adaption at all.

>>156840751
>I am just pretending bro xd

You are just as retarded

>>156840869
You must fill your phone with enough cum

>>156840981
Okay.

>>156840869
When you cum on your computer/phone screen

>>156840981
This

The entire meta-drama is retarded

>>156839750
F/GO is a pokemon game.
Catching all the servants in the gacha and collecting the Grails Badges from each of the Grand Gyms.

>>156839750
Pokemon? That that Yo-kai watch knockoff?

>>156841226
>implying pokemon games are about catching them all or gyms and badges anymore

>>156841340
And that's where the events come in.

>>156841340
To me, Pokemon is about fapping to Haruka, Touko, Mei and GO-chan.

>>156841226
Does this mean all the four stars and five stars run away on the first turn?

>>156841542
I wanna play with mei's donuts

>>156841586
That would be difficult and Pokemon doesn't do difficult anymore.

>>156841586
No, it means you don't even encounter them in the wild.

Man, this round of strengthening quests is fucking underwhelming

>>156841910
Because it is Servants that most people don't use.
>BUT I USE THEM
Majority of players aren't using this group in particular

>>156841910
I hope you're ready for more Star Absorbtion Rate in 10 hours.

>>156841910
yeah, they gave out some pretty broken shit in the previous rounds but so far this one has been barely average

>>156842021
I don't understand why they didn't remove Caesars defense debuff. He's the least used 3* Saber, why keep his nerf? Not to mention it's the only unique skill of Julius motherfucking Caesar.

>>156842084
Fuck off underage and/or furfaggot, posting this shit outside your containment board isn't allowed.

Other than Mozart, who else got the best Strengthenings?

>>156841910
They have to stop with buffing crit-related skill
>star absorp on Kojiro
>NP charge on Cu's crit skill
>star rate up on Caesar
>star absorp on ProtoCu

Maybe whoever unlucky Archer will get some NP charge tonight,Liz get star rate up and Sumanai get 15 stars.

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>>156842229
Calm down

>>156842252
>>156842252
Pre-nerf ROMA's was the best without a doubt

>>156842252
most bronzes, saber gilles, pre-nerf romulus

>>156842021
No,its because the buff is underwhelming.
Your point is moot since all previous strengthening also filled with servants minority only use.
I mean who the fuck use Bloodaxe?

>>156842252
Euryale, Leonidas, Gilles, Caligula, Jing Ke, Spartacus, Roma, Jet and Fluffy all have really good strengthening upgrades but Mozarts is probably the single most broken.

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>yfw the Gold card buff is all 5* servants

>>156842478
>>156842395
>ROMA
>nerfed
What?

>>156842721
The buster buff was like 50% IIRC

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>>156842252
Gilles. Maxed it on the day he got the skill

>>156842780
It was always 30

>>156837567
The only good Oni is Shuten.
Ibaraki a shit

>>156842818
>can't even BBC
then again, if you could spam tamamo's NP he'd be broken as hell

>>156842780
It was 30 since it was implemented

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>>156842963
NPBB does far more than any BBC could do

>>156842780
>strengthening
>50% buff

ha

>>156843005
>>156842869
I remember DW nerfing something about it and I remember people going crazy at the % of the buster part of it.

>>156843049
>Arts NP
BNPB supposedly works better for the last card

>>156843147
You remember wrong.

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Would you make food for Kojirou?

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>>156843147

>>156843184
Yes, but it's less damage in the chain overall since the NP gives +100% damage to the first Buster

>>156843235
so what was nerfed?

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Petal gathering to the maximum! Anybody still farming petal now?

>>156843460
The gacha is shit. Wait for Christmas.

>>156843351
No idea, I can find the patch notes saying it was nerfed but not what was actually changed.

>>156843460
I only cleared the first 6 gachas, since I'd have to spend apples I wouldn't get back for clearing any more

God I can't beat Gil with when I only have LV.70 Cu(FSN), Deermuid, Euryale & Lv.80 Ibaraki & Herc

Someone with Lv.3 NP or above Tamamo Lancer add me!

>>156843567
>not just soloing him with Leonidas

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>>156843351
Nothing

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>>156843460
Soon
Clearing the shop right now

>>156843460
On my 20th on my Main and 19th on my Alt, I'm gonna stop soon.
Fucking DW not adding Hearts back at the Finals!

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>>156843567
git gud