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Report and ignore it.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, September 20th:
622 – Muhammad and Abu Bakr arrived in Medina
1187 – Saladin begins the Siege of Jerusalem.
1378 – Cardinal Robert of Geneva, called by some the "Butcher of Cesena", is elected as Avignon Pope Clement VII, beginning the Papal schism.
1857 – The Indian Rebellion of 1857 ends with the recapture of Delhi by troops loyal to the East India Company.
1942 – Holocaust in Letychiv, Ukraine. In the course of two days the German SS murders at least 3,000 Jews.


>News
CK2 - DD23
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-dev-diary-23-more-rules-less-lunatics.968680/

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive (mods only)
https://mega.nz/#F!IkNwBRKR!WI_JYByFpRFzXLx3d1uD2A

#Where to get these games
http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[HoI4] - Après Moi, Le Déluge
http://www.moddb.com/mods/apres-moi-le-deluge

>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#!TVA2RByJ!tuh0k4SR5gXPLtmxsMd4KZ0at9gY5s5_oV70ui8A4B0

>>[EU4] - Expensive Warfare Mod 1.0
http://pastebin.com/gThqFi54

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.6 - 15/09/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V8
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar

Old Thread >>155182251
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Nicky
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>>155248676
Based
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Remember to pay for the games that you play
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>>155248865

>importing liquor
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so I've downloaded the latest HPM and all of the pops life needs have been reduced, shitting up the economy. guess I'll go back to 3.5.5
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Have I grown out of /gsg/ or do people unironically find liquorposting funny?
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>>155249025
They do, that's the sad part.
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>>155249025
>he doesn't find based liquormemes funny
HAHA hello, big benis!
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>>155248682
Thanks
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>>155249013
I checked it and he didn't reduce it.
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>>155248682
Based mods are based :)
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>>155249167
Reminded.
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>>155249341
But why? What's wrong with people liking Vicky?
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>>155249341
Good satire actually exists, though, see:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=yetx-dH1LB8
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>>155249241
He did mate.
Aristocrats in the last version:
life_needs = {
cattle = 3 #6
wool = 4 #2.8
fish = 4 #6
fruit = 4 #7.2
grain = 10 #22
Now:
life_needs = {
cattle = 0.75
wool = 1
fish = 1
fruit = 1
grain = 2.5
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Developing as Switzerland.
I have a lot of bird mana and the two iron provinces are already over 30 dev.
Feels kinda meh to develop production in the wool provinces, but they're already behind and better suited for tax/manpower.
Also actually use

I'm currently a monarchy with a 4-5-5 leader, but I've just finished up Aristocratic so I'm thinking after he dies I'll take the decision to go back to republic.
Then I no longer need Influence really, so I think I might scrap it and get Diplomatic and use my bird mana there.
Thoughts?
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Based mods BTFOing steamcord liquorbabies
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>>155249543
>german blob
disgusting
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>>155249543
>lol vicky is so easy like painting a map amirite?
>good satire
Try again, me laddie.
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>>155249434
there's nothing wrong with it, it just makes fun of certain vicky players that exaggerate the complexity of the game and are generally obnoxious

>>155249543
oh man I was looking for this, thanks
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>>155249549
No he didn't.
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>added liquor factories in Belgium, UK, France and US.
BASED HPM
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>>155249561
need grain to make the liquor from lad. Also get venice for their glass
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>>155249678
>>>/r/france

>>155249685
>colonisation of africa wasn't literally painting a map
hmm

>>155249729
It USED to make fun of overzealous elitist vicky players, now it's just spammed moronically.
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Who is the easiest non-king character to win the first crusade with from the 1066 start?
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>>155250012
HRE emperor
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@155249769
>countries had alcohol distilleries in the 19th century
>HPM adds this to more accurately represent this fact
>"hahah le liqqqq amirite dae grandi gross xDxD"
The only people still posting this shit are redditors.
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Let's talk about what we'd like to see in CK3. Any ideas?
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>>155248797
>"Years passed, gradually people began dying off. In 1986, the most senior man still alive turned out to be Captain Ivanov who lived in Detroit. Captain Ivanov received a communication from Paris saying that as the most senior man he was now obliged to assume the presidency of the R.A.S.U. He was ninety-one. He needed a deputy and I was recommended to him. I received a letter from this Captain Ivanov whom I had never met, an official letter -- 'Dear Nikita Ivanovich, As of such and such a date, I have become the President of the Russian Armed Services Union. I am alone and am requesting your help.' And so I answered the letter, -- 'Dear Captain Ivanov: I was brought up to be a soldier -- that means, never volunteer for duty, but never shirk it.' A week later, I received orders from him, stating that as of such and such a date Lieutenant Nikita Ivanovich Yovich would be serving as his deputy. He gave me various orders, xeroxing lists and so forth, which I carried out. After a few years I began having problems with my health and I wrote to Captain Ivanov requesting to be relieved of my duties. I received no reply. I wrote again. All of a sudden I receive a letter saying that Captain Ivanov has had a stroke and is paralyzed. I phoned him, but there was no answer. And then I received orders from him, which he had somehow been able to sign -- I had been appointed president of the Russian Armed Services Union."
Where did it go so wrong?
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You're all on the wrong general
>>>/s4s/4775336
>>>/s4s/4775336
>>>/s4s/4775336
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>>155249923
Naeh I'm staying in Switzerland until the end of the game.
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>>155250234
>Where did it go so wrong?
Assassination of alex
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>>155250234
>who lived in Detroit
This is a bigger atrocity than the Bolsheviks ever committed.

>>155250214
The game is pretty much great as is, at this point Victoria 3 and CK3 are less "What can we add to make them better?" and more "What we pray they won't remove/"streamline" for their kasual kash kow.
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>>155250214
mana and sliders
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>>155250513
>ironically comparing the two
Sliders were good, though.
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Make Liquor Great Again for HPM Beta Patch 0.3.6: https://www.dropbox.com/s/sjh6nvztw95svdo/makeliquorgreatagain3.6.rar?dl=0

This minimod reverts liquor production, price, and consumption values back to vanilla.
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>>155250732
They're both good
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>>155250772
No, Mana isn't good.
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>>155250756
Does HPM change the price of Liquor?
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>>155251130
Yes, he dropped it from 6.4 to 4.4 because he's a prohibitionist.
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>>155251130
Yes, HPM made it all more reasonable that's why that guy reverts it out of butthurt.
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>>155251232
Top kek.
>>155251176
Alcohol is immoral.
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>>155251232
>arbitrarily reducing the price and demand of something because some memers made you butthurt
>reasonable
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>tfw unironically enjoy all the shitposting
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>>155251703
>HPM makes demand, price and consumption more reasonable so something is not always profitable
>memers get butthurt and make a whole mod to change it
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>>155251703
Hi Colombian teenager
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>>155251885
>implying liquor isn't profitable anymore
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>>155251915
I have yet to partake in this particular delicacy, pray, may you elaborate further?
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how do I fix these borders
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>>155252104
No it isn't, the profits it brings are meager and the AI easily overproduces it
That's the whole reason that mod exists, because the memers got butthurt
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>>155252170
>>155252104
>>155251885
>>155251703
>>155251232
>>155251176
I don't know who's liquoring who anymore.
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>>155252373
l-lewd
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>>155252165
Give it all to based USA
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>>155248797
How is it funny to just say the name of a historical figure and post a picture of him?
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>>155252771
Who ever said it was funny?
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>>155252771
It's just shitposting.
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>>155252771
Should he spoiler and trigger warning it for you?
It's a benign post.
I like it, it has character
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>>155252869
I assumed that humor was the motivation behind it. If that is not the case, it's an even bigger mystery.
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>>155252992
It's, like every monarchy in the history of time, only purpose is the continuation of a tradition that stems from a time longer than anyone can remember.
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>>155253074
>his objective is to beat the r&i to the first post
no it isn't.
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>>155252929
>spoilering nicky posting
this is the future we chose
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>>155253254
I'm one of the nickyposters m8
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>>155253402
no true nickyboster desu
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>>155249025
edks dhe grossgermaniums beeenis xd4334d t. reed/korok/alex/rob/t&i/steamgruppe LIQUIR LEEELL EjKS DEGEEE
>GROSS I'M SO GOOD AT THIS GAEME
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>>155253673
t.
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>>155253673
wew
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>>155253814
You're more autistic for making a collage of my greatest hits.
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>>155253797
What's the difference between protestant and reformed? Who would based Ulster Presbyterians be?
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So, just got into a game of CK2 again, been since a bit after conclave came out. HIP

Anyone got any tips on surviving as the Kingdom of the Isles? Norway won't agree to an alliance with me because of political concerns for whatever reason this time around and the Scots jump my shit quick.
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>>155254246
reformed is calvinism
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>>155254359
which ailes? mcdonalds shart in mart? ekssde americans btfo
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>>155254359
send a diplomat to the king of norway till you get 100 relations and marry with his relatives if you haven't already
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>>155254405
What's that?
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>>155254445
Its a meme religion where you get to play in the heaven or hell lotto
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>>155254445
branch of protestantism where main idea is that people are predestined to go to heaven or hell
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>>155254948
Can you buy your way into heaven by donating to pædophiles masquerading as holy men?
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>>155254948
>>155255037
>people unironically think it works like this
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>>155255037
I voted for Obama so I guess I'm safe.
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>>155255421
safe in hell
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>>155254431

The King of the Isles starts off married to his daughter, political concerns blows it out though. Tried starting a game as the King of Norway and the King of the Isles won't accept alliance from him for the same reasons. Don't much get it.

Not much alliance prospects around either, the Scots declare war not long after unpausing.
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If I want to play as the CSA in HPM, what should I be doing in the years before the civil war? Is there a way to secede peacefully?
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>>155256167
make every state a slave state and only make army divisions from southern pops
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>>155256263
>cheating
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>>155255727
Protip: buy favour lets you marry literally anyone.
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>>155256167
Send all yankee pops to stand in a desert.
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Time to replace influence ideas with diplomatic
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>>155256587

maybe you should replace euiv.exe with uninstall.exe
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>>155256476
>Protip: buy favour lets you marry literally anyone.

Favors are conclave ain't they? I don't agree with the way they did child education in that.

I'm not sure what this political consideration bullshit is in regards the the Isles and Norway, guess I'll have to try getting an alliance with some half useful Irish count or the Bretons.
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>>155256587
see>>155256680
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>>155256680
>>155256802
epic
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>>155256802
see
>>155256872
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>>155256898

not an argument
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>>155256957
>not an argument
not an arguement
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>>155256263
>>155256554
I usually just make all the yankee/dixie soldiers into a suicide squad.
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>>155257031

not an argument

>>155257071

HOL' UP
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>>155256792
I'm ambivalent on Conclave. I mean, the system is a lot more realistic in that you can't just give them to a brilliant strategist and have them pop out that 50% of the time, but it's also more tedious and downright annoying to deal with.
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>>155257071
Does that mean they all kill each other when the war hits?
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>>155250756
>being THIS butthurt he nerfed your liquor exploit
Discord really is pathetic.
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Is EU Rome any good?
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>nick_the_loyal
what did they mean by this?
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>>155257275
It means they get to meet interesting and stimulating people of an ancient culture and kill them.
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>>155257297
nice reddit image
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>>155254445
Once you get to Calvinism, you might as well just become a Sunni muslim. Straight to the killing people and destroying art that depicted anything heavenly or real.
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How do I git gud as Byzantium? I keep sucking Hungary and Polands dick but they both never want to join me in war against the ottomans, and the ottomans nope right out of that as well.
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>>155257297
What mod has interesting new countries and unions and doesn't let autism get in the way of fun like HPM does?
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>>155258047
NNM
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>>155258047
Vickymod aka /gsg/mod aka robmod
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>>155258047
Just play with the HPNNM minimod if you want meme unions
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>>155258501
>he thinks vickymod is robmod
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>155258637
Didn't know about that one. Thanks.

>>155258501
Are you meming or serious?

>>155258263
Isn't that just HPM with less content?
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>>155258774
If you get an African brigades from the South as the US, do they join the Confederates one the ACW starts? They're pops inside Confederate territory afterall.
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How do you guys feel about After the End?

Some of the world building seems subpar (particularly consumerism) and there seems to be an overemphasis on religion at the expense of the political meat of the gameplay, but I think what it's been able to accomplish in terms of play-ability probably exceeds any other CKII mod.
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>>155259185
>fantasy games
>>>/vg/civ4xg
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Should I make a custom duke in the Canaries Zunbil or Aztec?
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imagine seeing this on the pop charts when you click over provinces
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>>155259185
Yeah, I personally fell in love with it when I saw the duke of Jalisco was part of the "de Las Chivas" dynasty.
Laughed my ass off, that's the local fucking football team.
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>>155260342
>liverpool is pretty based
100% commie scum.
https://youtu.be/fGvhOEp3HwQ
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>>155260482
Yeah but they're white.
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>>155260482
follow your leader fascist dog
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>>155260260
nice attempt at derailing the thread. pretty lazy effort at trying to make it victoria 2 related
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>>155260603
My leader went to live in France.
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>>155260603
Tbf Hitler had an OK death,took his own life rather than surrender

Stalin had a stroke and died by himself,lonely and in a literal puddle of his own piss,his guards didnt even help because they were too scared of Stalin chimping out at them for getting in his room.
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>>155261170
>believing a bourgeoise myth
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>>155261286
Yeah,should have read the Soviet government documents which are totally not forged in any way shape or form.

Stalin was disgraced by his successors and portrayed as a mad butcher with no regard for human life after his rule,just like Hitler
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What do I do when I get tired of playing V2? I was really into HOI3 but it's no fun after you've played the main countries. I was thinking about converting a V2 run into an HOI3 one, but I figured that'd just make me OP and I'd get bored.
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>>155261170
>Tbf Hitler had an OK death,took his own life rather than surrender
>this is what rightards belive
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>>155260829
I saw that pic and vic2 was just the first thing that came into mind. I'm not trying to derail anything.
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>>155261793
CK2
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>>155261973
You've shitposted that picture here before with and said something similar. Stop lying.
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>>155260829
>derailing a thread about a game by posting things about the game
Fuck off autist
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>>155261898
Didn't he chew a cynaide then kill himself
Not that guy
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What did italian communists want to do with all the cathedrals and renaissance art and shit? If there had been a communist takeover in italy would they have just turned all the important architecture into museums or something like ataturk did? what about the vatican, how would they have wanted to handle that?
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>>155262004
Is it actually fun or is it EUIV-tier and is only fun because you're tired of V2?
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>>155262061
*shoot himself
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>>155262049
Except that has nothing to do with video games. Take it to /pol/
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>>155262031
>shitposted

I posted it before, yeah. I said something similar because it's the truth. I wanted to repost it again to see if I would get any asinine triggered replies like last time, because I really didn't see what was so awful about my post last time.
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>>155262108
They would've fucking destroyed everything they could get their hands on. It's commies we're talking about here mate.
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>>155262143
that's definitely not EU-tier but I cant say if it's going to be fun for you or not
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>>155262215
So you admit you were shitposting.
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>>155262180
>an interface for provincial pops is somehow /pol/
No really, fuck off
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>>155261170
>killed himself after leading his country to beyond ruin because he was buttmad that Willy got Germany in over its head

>died of a stroke after turning Russia from Sick Man of Europe into contender for world's number one power

yeah man ur right hitler was so cool lol
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I think this is now up to date. Hopefully I didn't forget anything.

Now to figure the best way to update my other maps
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>>155262815
>died of a stroke after turning Russia from Sick Man of Europe into the sick Man of Planet Earth

ftfy
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>>155262808
It was a poor attempt at trying to start a /pol/ discussion. Admit it, you saved that picture either from /pol/ or /int/.
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>>155262830
Did he change anything in 0.3.6?

>>155262921
What's wrong with /pol/? This isn't your safespace.
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>>155262830
>tfw trying to mod vickys map into eu4
>modify two provinces
>give up

Wew laddies
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>>155262921
No, I think it was just someone trying to have some discussion about the game rather than meta discussion about le liquor meme
It wasn't my photo, I just hate autists like you shitting up actual discussion
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Are the ottomemes fun to play as in Vicky 2?
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>>155262921
that's not me you're talking to but I found it on /int/ if that really matters. I'm not trying to start a "/pol/ discussion". It's an interesting pic and it reminded me of vic2.
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>>155263169
yeah most of North America.

This is the difference overlaid with 0.3.5.5
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>>155262921
>you will never be this triggered at the possibily of conversation over demographics
Back to lefty/pol/, laddo.
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>>155263169
>This isn't your safe space
It's a place to talk about video games. There's actually a place to talk about /pol/ stuff. I think it's called /pol/.

>>155263242
>>155263172
Pretty flimsy excuse. Why not just post something from Vic2 rather than race-baiting pie charts barely related to the game.
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>>155263354
So was this Americaminimod being integrated or did HPM do this?
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>race-baiting pie charts
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>>155263369
>on topic posting is /leftypol/
Pretty funny since you've only been coming here for a few months.

>laddo
Nice 4chan slang. Do you talk like this in real life?
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>people unironically get their political ideology from 4chan
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>>155263454
That's pretty much all the America Mini Mod. Which also seemed to include a few Central and South American provinces too. The only things he changed directly were a few Pacific islands and Fayyum in Egypt.
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How am I doing guys?
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>>155263704
Why did he change Fayyum?
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>>155263669
*fires a whole mag down your ass*
Stay down you fucking c*mmie
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>>155263735
>blobing
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>>155263669
>>people unironically get their political ideology from tumblr
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>>155263781
in the changelog he just says "so it looks better"

If you notice, it's a little less bulgy now and more in line diagonally-wise with the Nile
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>>155263424
> a city's demographics is inherently race-baiting
Go back to the steamgroup you little victim
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>>155263975
It's also entirely unrelated to video games.
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>>155264176
what about this >>155264086
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I hurt myself today.
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Does anyone have that comfiest nations in Vicky 2 list?
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>>155264176
>waah this is some politically incorrect someone ban this shoah
>fuck off lefty/pol/
>n-no it's off topic!!
Why is it so easy to trigger communists? The nature of these games make discussion of politics, geography and things of that nature inevitable. If you don't like it and want a communist circlejerk then go to >>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>155264448
yeah i figured why else would you be playing redditia universalis 4
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>>155264564
BIG_BENIS_IN_MY_ANUS, you already have a safespace in /pol/ or your beloved reddit if video game posting triggers your delicate sensibilities.

>>155264383
I think that would also be considered off-topic shitposting.
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>>155264564
>Why is it so easy to trigger communists?
Their ideology is kinda built on being triggered and feeling oppressed by shit.
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>>155264589
Better than Liqqy 2.
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>>155263735
>importing liquor
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>>155264719
SJWism is not true communism. Where do you fascist fucks get this idea anyway?
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>>155264767
Communism is built upon,and is a consequence of SJWism

t.Yuri Bezmenov
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LET MY PEOPLE GO
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liquor
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>>155264680
>mentioning the name of a white and based reddit raider means i am instantly wrong and /gsg/ should be your safespace
thats not how this works memeth
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>>155264767
Being oppressed and triggered by money and private property are the core values of communism. SJWism is just a relatively new branch of marxist """"""thought""""""

>everyone who doesn't like gommunism is a fascist xD
Classic commie logic on full display.
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>>155264916
I don't know shit about eu4, what you were doing earlier with the reforms was making you into an advanced state capable of technologically taking on the west? so why are you being colonized right now you quq
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>>155265056
Aztecs start behind in tech, and it takes them a fuckton more mana to buy each level of tech. To fix this you need to westernise, but Aztecs can't westernise without reforming.

So, basically, you have to reform. Once you reform, you can westernise. Once you westernise you can buy tech at the same price as Europeans.

The catch is that you don't get any free tech levels (you do, but barely enough to matter) so after you westernise it still takes about 70 years to catch up.

A native nation won't be on par with a European nation until the mid 1700s. It's why they're so arse to play. I forget this every so often and try and play them, but I quickly remember. I'm on the verge of alt-F4ing and going back to Liqqy.
>>
https://www.reddit.com/user/BIG_BENIS_IN_MY_ANUS/
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>>155265056
why do liquor pros who've never played eu4 feel the need to chime in on the game like they're some sort of certified expert on grand strategy games?
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>>155248797
Nice job on getting the first post!
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>>155264937
is
>>
>mfw English Mexico collapsed (obviously) to rebels, but the revolting nations inherit the tech level of their overlord, so Mixtec now had the same tech level as the Euros and shits all over my units despite being held by them for like three years
R E A L I S T I C W O R L D S
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>>155265248
what the fuck
I'm not talking shit about the game
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>>155265557
holy shit lad
are they christian? how long were they held? Are they more like a "real" post colonial state like mexico or did they retain their true self?
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>>155265857
Nope, they are exactly the way that they were before I annexed them and then lost them to England, just with a bonus 20 tech levels because England controlled them for three years.
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>>155265914
So what? They learned from their colonial masters.
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>>155265914
Mixtec and Kiche both have the same tech as English Mexico, other than that they are as usual. Don't even have Western tech group.
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>>155266034
In three years they learned the entirety of Reniassance warfare, administration, and diplomacy, from a colonial government in its infancy, and yet I cannot learn that but through decades of westernisation that rips my country apart?
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what cunt should i play? goals too
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>>155266261
prussia
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>>155266261
Netherlands

Number 1 industry score.

Netherlands + Belgium (+ Normandy, optional)

Cape to Cairo.
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What's the order for reforms when starting off as Imperial Japan?
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>>155266358
healthcare
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>>155266320
and awaaay we go!
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>Im'ma buy you a drank [of liquor]
t. pain

tfw unbased darkies were spouting finnish imageboard liquor memes years before gsg
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So it begins. The long road to revenge.

England will pay for what it has done.
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>>155266358
>not capable of conquest
>there's one non-military reform that is ~1000x better than all the other non-military reforms in terms of westernization speed
hmmm
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>>155266358
LGBT and Affirmative Action are solutions to important issues that society needs to solve.
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>>155266261
>>155266437
What's this meme?
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>>155266883
>>155266261
link to mod pls

>>155266437
>not playing a released nation
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>>155259363
>Ck2 mods
>>>/vg/thread/155248676/gsg-grand-strategy-general#p155257275
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>>155267389
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk
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I feel like he's actually cool sometimes
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>>155266883
>>155267389
>>155267476
I know it's HPM I just want a link to the save tbqh
>>
Hey lads I put Liqqy 2 mods in the install directory mod folder, not the documents mod folder, correct?
>>
What's the comfiest gsg game?
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>>155267859
Liquoria
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>>155267859
unironically >>155268035
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>>155267859
Victoria 2
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>>155267636
https://a.pomf.cat/cixrdy.v2
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>>155267616
Epic XD
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>>155268635
Vicky always gives me shits because I put them in the wrong place. I have hundreds of hours in EU3 and 4, and CK2.
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>>155268963
>EU4
hahaha, go back please
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>>155269052
Sorry, I forgot that grand strategy games aren't allowed in this general.
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>>155268963
>>155268635
>>155267851

samefag
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>>155269101
>eu4
>grand strategy
>game
hahaha, no really, go back
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Will I have the most fun as Cuba, Dominican Republic or Haiti? I feel like filling a shithole nigger island with a bunch of aryan immigrants and turning it great
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>>155269258
That's not how it works. You deport all socialists first, then import whitey and let them do their thing and in a few decades you'll have something decent.
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>>155268963
>I have hundreds of hours in EU3 and 4, and CK2.
You say this as if it redeems what you said earlier.
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>>155269230
eu4 is grand strategy though
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This is the first time I've seen every single revolutionary state in China successfully gain independence.
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>>155269536
no it isn't, my newfriend. now go back please
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>>155269689
>no it isn't
yes it is

>now go back please
to where?
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>>155269409
I'm talking about video games here, dude. There's no option to "deport all socialists" in video game
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>>155269760
no it isn't.

to wherever your dirty ass crawled out of.
i presume it's reddit. we've been getting a lot of your people these days it's pretty disgusting
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>>155269821
>no it isn't.
it is

>to wherever your dirty ass crawled out of.
/gsg/?

>i presume it's reddit.
it's not
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>>155269802
The only good thing about this image is East Germany's Weimar Era borders.
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>>155269820
There actually is. You just need to research the 5th level of air tech.
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>>155269869
it isn't though, i get it your ass is new here but learn to adapt to our culture.

/gsg/? is that a new reddit board? never heard of that. well, whatever. just go back there and close this website.

it is.
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>>155269802
>all this nationalism
This is only good as a sort of intermediary stage in addministration, ideally it would become, well not necessarily more centralized, but SSRs shouldn't be based on nationality.
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>>155270012
Yeah, it's just an intermediary stage I promise the state will wither away

lmao fucking commies. *bang bang* *commie drops dead*
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>>155270006
>it isn't though
it is

> i get it your ass is new here
it isn't

>/gsg/?
yeah

>is that a new reddit board?
if reddit has a /gsg/ board i wouldn't know

> just go back there
i'm already here though

>it is.
prove it
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>>155269897
By the time I finish that research it would be way too late to start turning the country white.
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>>155270006
>>155270109
Just chill guys. Let's wait until HPM comes back to hear his opinion on this.
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somalis, ethiopes and arabs are white and based
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>>155270109
it isn't though, you seem to be pretty stupid

yeah it is. you think eu4 is a game

yeah

why is that? don't you know your website better than anyone else here should? don't you care about your home?

but this isn't /r/gsg

just did
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>>155270154
Just use the good old method of social exclusion then. Don't let them anywhere near firearms or factories. You can also use them as slaves for a while before you finally research the tech.
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>>155270302
>it isn't though
it is

>yeah it is
it isn't

>you think eu4 is a game
it is

>why is that?
don't use reddit

>don't you know your website better than anyone else here should?
i know 4chan pretty well, yeah

>don't you care about your home?
websites aren't homes

>but this isn't /r/gsg
i know

>just did
no you didn't
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>>155270302
>>155270478
Is it autism?
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>>155270478
>>155270302
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>>155270478
it's not, i thought i made it pretty evident even to low iq people like yourself

it is

it's not a game though

what do you call posting on reddit for at least 12 hours per day then? isn't that called using?

/r/4chan you mean? wouldn't know anything about it myself but yeah i'd imagine you would know a lot about it

websites like reddit are homes for pesky little rats like yourself

that's good, you are one step closer to realizing that you need to close this tab

yeah i did
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>>155270365
Okay. What country should I play then?
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>>155270749
I'd say Cuba or Venezuela. Prevent the horrible disasters of those countries before they even become a possibility.
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>>155270642
>it's not
it is

>it is
it isn't

>it's not a game though
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_Universalis_IV
>Europa Universalis IV[2] is a grand strategy video game

>what do you call posting on reddit for at least 12 hours per day then?
posting on reddit for at least 12 hours per day

>isn't that called using?
sure. but i don't use reddit

>/r/4chan you mean?
nah i meant 4chan.

>wouldn't know anything about it myself
redditors like yourself tend to not know much about 4chan, yes.

>i'd imagine you would know a lot about it
you'd be right, i do know a fair bit about 4chan

>websites like reddit are homes for pesky little rats like yourself
but you use reddit

>that's good, you are one step closer to realizing that you need to close this tab
why?

>yeah i did
no you didn't
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>>155270892
it's not though

it is

>using reddit definitions
yeah you sure aren't from reddit buddy we believe you

exactly, that's why you qualify as a reddit user. it's nice that you are starting to use a little bit of logic now. that's a good sign

but you do

why did you type /r/4chan then?

but i've never been to reddit unlike yourself

yeah i wouldn't know much about /r/4chan i'd have to concede that

i don't even know what reddit is

because your people don't belong here

sure i did
>>
>>155271028
>>155270892

plz stop.
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So why am I not allowed to turn this into a state
I have the accepted culture bureaucrats, and this colonial power jumped up to that number suddenly, I only needed like 100 or something before
>>
>>155271028
>it's not though
it is

>it is
it isn't

>>using reddit definitions
i'm not

>yeah you sure aren't from reddit buddy we believe you
good to hear

>exactly, that's why you qualify as a reddit user.
why is that?

>but you do
prove it

>why did you type /r/4chan then?
i didn't

>but i've never been to reddit unlike yourself
but you have

>yeah i wouldn't know much about /r/4chan i'd have to concede that
you must do, the way you keep banging on about it

>i don't even know what reddit is
the way you keep banging on about it you must do

>because your people don't belong here
rich coming from a reddit enthusiast

>sure i did
you didn't
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>>155271280
it's not

i'm pretty sure it is

i was using a technique called sarcasm not sure if you guys over at reddit have invented it yet

you use reddit which means you are a redditor

just did

you did, look at your post it clearly says /r/4chan

i haven't though

i'd have to learn about the culture first since i'm not an uncultured animal like yourself. fortunately i have you to help he through it since you are a reddit expert

i'm not a reddit expert like yourself so i wouldn't know

you seem to be disconnected from reality. you aren't home right now this isn't reddit.com this is 4chan.org

yeah i did
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hmmm
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>>155271171
It doesn't tell you how much you actually need until you have enough bureaucrats.

Basically you have to wait until you have a much larger navy before you can do anything.
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>>155271597
>Indonesia in the Commonwealth
>Norn Iron out
>Canada annexed
For what reason?
>>
Daily reminder that Charles I did nothing wrong
Stuarts are the true kings
Roundheads get the FUCK off my imageboard!!!
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>>155271771
>>
>>155271429
>it's not
it is

>i'm pretty sure it is
i know it isn't

>not sure if you guys over at reddit have invented it yet
what? being a redditor you're the perfect person to know such a thing

>you use reddit
i don't

>which means you are a redditor
i'm not

>just did
no you didn't

>you did, look at your post it clearly says /r/4chan
in memetext quoting you, yeah

>i haven't though
you have

>i'd have to learn about the culture first
go do that, i imagine someone like yourself would have plenty of fun learning about reddit

> fortunately i have you to help he through it
you're shit out of luck friend as i'm unable to do so

>since you are a reddit expert
prove it

>i'm not a reddit expert like yourself
you seem eager to become one

>you seem to be disconnected from reality
i'm not

>this isn't reddit.com
correct

>this is 4chan.org
correct

>yeah i did
you didn't
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Is it just me or is EUIV really hard compared to Victoria II?
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>>155271847
it's not though

i'm positive it is

wouldn't know since i don't visit reddit. you might be more knowledgeable on this subject though

you do

you are

nope, you typed /r/4chan as the place you visited therefore you are indeed a redditor

i have

yeah i love learning about animals, why don't we start with you? tell me about your animal culture

i'm not your friend though, why would a human be your friend? you are a redditor which means you probably care some communicable diseases

just did

yeah i love studying animals in detail

you are

good, you know that this isn't your home and you are merely a visitor here. respect our culture

yes, this is 4chan.org. go back to your home

yeah i did
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>>155271171
Build loads of ports you retard
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I'm new to any EU and I have been trying to get into EU3, but how do I get good at colonizing? I read a guide and I tried to do it but I really have no idea what I'm doing.

>Playing as England circa 1605
>never fight anyone
>don't know where to colonize
>completely lack awareness about anything with relation to how to dickslap other nations who try to colonize MY Eastern North America
I want my comfy Virginian plantation, but the quests also seem to railroad me toward Indian expansion and I wonder if it's a good idea to colonize Cape in S.A.
>>
>>155272115
>it's not though
it is

>i'm positive it is
you're wrong about most things

>wouldn't know since i don't visit reddit
denial

>you might be more knowledgeable on this subject though
nah

>you do
prove it

>you are
prove it

>nope, you typed /r/4chan as the place you visited
would never type that as i've never been there

>you are indeed a redditor
you are indeed a redditor

>i have
no you haven't

>yeah i love learning about animals,
good for you

>why don't we start with you?
start what with me?

>tell me about your animal culture
what are you talking about?

>i'm not your friend though
:(

>why would a human be your friend?
why not?

>you are a redditor which means you probably care some communicable diseases
you must be very familiar with redditors to know that

>just did
no you didn't

>yeah i love studying animals in detail
good for you??

>you are
prove it

>good, you know that this isn't your home
correct, websites aren't homes

>you are merely a visitor here
as is every other poster here

>respect our culture
4chan's culture is fine. but i don't respect the culture of redditors like yourself

>yes, this is 4chan.org
correct

>go back to your home
i am at my home

>yeah i did
no you didn't
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>tfw thanks to autism simulators you are good at geography
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>>155271935
No, always take it
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>>155272537
it's not

i'm right about everything

yeah i agree you seem to be in denial. it's good that you at least realize it now

yup

just did

just did it again

but you did type it which means you've been there

i'm not but you are one of them, a dirty little reddit rat

yeah i have

yeah

yeah since you are a species i'm interested in

talking about your family, the reddit family

about your culture

-_-

you smell

yeah i've seen a lot of you fuckers here you seem to crawl out pretty often these days

yes i did

websites aren't but reddit (your home) sure is

not really, there aren't many other redditors here right now from what i can gather

4chan culture is our culture. you should respect it since you are merely an immigrant from reddit

but you said websites can't be homes. seems like the disease has paralyzed your brain functions it's a typical case of being a redditor

yeah i'm sure i did
>>
>>155272851
>it's not
it is

>i'm right about everything
clearly not

>yeah i agree you seem to be in denial.

>it's good that you at least realize it now
realise what now?

>yup
nah

>just did
no you didn't

>just did it again
no you didn't

>but you did type it
but i didn't

>which means you've been there
but i haven't

>i'm not
but you are

>but you are one of them
nope

>a dirty little reddit rat
is what you are

>yeah i have
no you haven't

>yeah
yeah

>yeah since you are a species i'm interested in
a human? ok

>talking about your family,
please do not involve my family in this discussion

>the reddit family
of which you are a part?

>about your culture
tell me about my culture

>-_-
:P

>you smell
hey fuck you

>yeah i've seen a lot of you fuckers here you seem to crawl out pretty often these days
shocker: there's a lot of 4channers on 4chan. if this troubles you you are free to go back to treddit

>yes i did
no you didn't

>websites aren't but reddit (your home) sure is
but reddit is a website and is therefore not my home

>not really, there aren't many other redditors here right now from what i can gather
good to hear, i don't like redditors like yourself shitting the place up

>4chan culture is our culture
i am aware that there is a lot of reddit immigrants like yourself trying to steal our culture, please stop

>you should respect it
i do

>you are merely an immigrant from reddit
but that's wrong, and you are the immigrant

>but you said websites can't be homes
correct

> seems like the disease has paralyzed your brain functions it's a typical case of being a redditor
seems you're wrong (again)

>yeah i'm sure i did
yeah but i know you didn't
>>
>>155273420
it's not

i clearly am

realize your inability to accept reality, the reality of you being a redditor

yeah

yeah i did

i did

you did though

you did though

you have

i'm not, you are though

yup

i'm not a reddit though therefore i can't be a reddit rat like yourself

yeah i'm pretty sure i have

sure

a human? why do you call yourself a human? you are a redditor and they are more akin to chimps

why not? they created your dirty ass

i don't consider myself to be your brother since i'm a human

your culture is a disgusting creation of reddit.com

(o_o)

smelly!

yeah there are a lot of us 4channers here but you redditors always need to make it worse

yeah i did

reddit.com is your home therefore it can't be a website by your logic. it's flawed

why is that good? i'd think you would like to see more of your own kind here

this is exactly what i'm talking about. respect our culture and don't try to steal it, dirty redditor

that's good, respect our culture you fucking immigrant

broken logic

i'm always right though that must mean you are wrong here (again)

i did though i'm 100% sure
>>
>>155268963
>
>>
>>155273869
dumb facebook frogposter
>>
my king died before i could make my child follow my heresy, very sad!
>>
Seem like we are reaching for that peak autism award again
>>
Why does /gsg/ hate /r/paradoxplaza? we all play the same games
>>
This was the flag of my city. The north american vexillogical association rated it in the top 10 out of all US city flags.
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This is now the flag of my city after it merged with the county. RIP.
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>>155273832
it is

you're delusional

i accept reality and the reality is i am not from reddit (unlike yourself!)

nah

nah you didn't

you didn't

i didn't

i didn't

prove it

nope

but you are clearly from reddit. why deny it?

nah u haven't actually

maybe

i call myself what i am and u what u r ( a redditor)

it is rude, but then again redditors don't understand the concept of being polite

you're right you're not my brother but i am human!

reddit did not create 4chan's culture, despite what they may have told you back there

o_O

i said fuck you cunt

true, you are making this place worse. go back, please.

reddit isn't my home though.

it's good to hear there aren't many of your kind here. but there could always be more of us and less of you redditors

i don't respect the culture of redditors

i don't respect the culture of redditors

nope

but as we've already established you are often wrong

you didn't
>>
>>155274569
it's not

i think you are the delusional one here

you evidently don't accept the reality since you think for some reason that you aren't a redditor

yeah

sure i did

i did

you did though

you did

just did

yeah

i'd like to ask the same question. since you are merely an immigrant here answer this - why do you deny being a redditor?

i'm sure i have

maybe?

yeah you are a redditor and i'm a 4channer big difference here

polite? is that why you redditors usually do these days? what truly strange creatures you guys are

but you can't be a human and a redditor at the same time

but at 4chan we've discovered that reddit is just another website therefore you are an immigrant here. accept out superior culture or leave

(・へ・)

what? i didn't quite get your reddit tier insult

i am making my home worse? how does that work? you are the immigrant here

but it is

there a lot of my people here (4channers) you seem to have trouble reading

why don't you respect your own culture?

you don't like your own people?

yeah

all we've established is that i'm true all the time

i did
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>>155274539
>>155274470
neat
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>>155272657
Feels good tbqh
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>>155274925
See >>155274569
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What mod should I use for vicky 2 id use hpm but that fucks my game up
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>>155276738
t. rob
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>>155276513
read it ;D
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>>155277164
*red as in socialist
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>>155277252
t. reddit
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>memeth
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Meneth laying down the truth about 4chan.
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Stop trolling us you right wing racists
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if it wasn't for his potential job at paradox meneth would've killed himself by now
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>>155277624
T.reddit
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>>155277875
can't gulag someone when you're just a lump of meat due to the nice helicopter flight lmao
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>>155277875
Zesty meme comrade!

Come join me at /r/fullcommunism and /r/paradoxplaza!
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>>155277875
>yellow+black
>fasho
fucking kek
commies are pretty uneducated aren't they
also this >>155277968
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>>155277875
>gold and black
>fascist
Go back to school, comrade.
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Anyone here play For The Glory?
I was wondering if this decision really influences how the american revolution plays out, the game doesn't provide any stats on the militia choice. This happens a few times too, so it's not a trivial amount of cash.
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>>155278212
>pinochet
>fascist
commie education

Also gold doesn't always mean ancap, it can mean liberal. Ancaps wouldn't like pinochet because he's a statist,
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>>155278419
>discussion about semi related politics
>"in what game XD"
>complete shitposting about grandi liquor
>complete silence from the "in what game" poster
epic
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>>155278212
>yellow and black somehow means ancap
>pinochet was somehow a fascist even though he supported free markets
lmao buddy now i truly see that public education is the way to go
>>155278427
>this is now an ancap flag
Is this what commie education looks like?
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>>155278790
I didn't say he wasn't a dictator you retarded commie. Fascism and dictatorship aren't the same thing, I know it's a hard concept to grasp but you could at least try.
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>>155278790
>leftists, especially socialists
>people
LMFAO
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>>155269537
Which is quite stupid, because the goal of Taiping Rebellion was to overthrow Qing dynasty, not create a separate state.
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>>155278790
I actually consider myself a centrist with no true interest in politics. I'm just very interested in history and ideology so i get mad when commies call every dictatorship fascist.
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>>155279106
>I actually consider myself a centrist with no true interest in politics
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>>155279209
>leninist
You'd fly out of the helicopter regardless.
>>
How can I play as a Boer republic since 1836 in HPM?
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>>155279302
You can't. They didn't exist yet. Play as an observer country like Hawaii for awhile and save and swap to them when the relevant events begin.
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>>155279376
Can't I fire creation event through console?
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>>155279162
Guess i kinda phrased that wrong. I don't really care about politics at all but i like studying political thought and ideologies.

>>155279209
Guess i should've said "leftists" then but even then not all leftists sperg out about how everyone they don't like is a fascist.

>>155279264
Yeah this is getting kinda off topic. I used to be fine with political discussion here but recently it's been getting really violent instead of the civil friendly discussions we used to have about ideology.
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>>155279862
I'd say most of them don't understand what fascism actually is so it's pretty fair.
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>>155279862
>>155279932
in what game
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starting a new game, mongols on or off lads?
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>>155280006
mongols on

you want someone to clean up the horrible borders in the east
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the silence after the shitpost storm
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licker
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Beep beep, God-tier OC MS Paint template coming through

Tukkers iz the sikkest, join GC or you're a faggot
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>>155279583
Sure you can if you find it.
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>>155280591
forgot to mention, there are a couple of white provinces on the map that weren't actually colonised yet

also it's 1901 not 1900
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>>155280591
This map does not accurately represent the cultural, ethnic and linguistic diversity of New Zealand, please delete this post and yourself, thank you.
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>>155280758
t. islander diaspora leeching off welfare in Queensland
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>>155280972
Nah I'm not maori haha, 100% unironic kiwi
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>>155281124
>>155281034
There's like two people in the thread at the moment, why are you even bothering?
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>>155281031
>white kiwi
They exist? The only NZers we have here are islanders.
>>
>council is discontent
why
how do i stop it
>>
Goodnight fellow autists.
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>>155281463
Make them happy
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>>155281257
Islanders are the worst immigrants desu, I'd rather two Hangs than a single Fijian, fat lazy bastards. At least they're not muslims haha
>>
What's the best Indian Sate to play in HPM or are they all boring?
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>>155281653
Mughals
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>>155281653
I quite like the Pooinloo Raj
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>>155281521
Samoans are mad dudes. What the fuck is a hang?
>>
Based mods BTFOing dumb shitposters
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>>155281816
talex
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>>155281814
Hang, Hung, Wong, Dong, Zhang, whatever
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>>155282082
who the fuck is cobra?

>>155281987
who the fuck is ross?
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>>155282067
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>>155282067
You're gonna get banned from my helicopter too if you don't shut up real soon
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>>155282067
in what game
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>>155282174
Back at it with le helicopter meme.
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>>155282382
>putting le in front of something magically makes it bad
le communism meme

Do I win?
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>>155259185
My home town is a city holding in Iowa, which made me happy. I'd do some extra modding though to make a local poltician god emperor of Iowa and have the religion be the "Six Pillars of Character"
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>>155282718
west vs east
>>
>every council member has 100 opinion
>still can't abolish their power
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>>155282718
>people discussing politics
>lol wut game
>people discussing cobra's newest shitpost
>"in what game" poster nowhere to be seen

epic

i like it
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>>155282751
>east vs west is gone forever
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>>155282838
good riddance
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>>155282838
in what game
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>>155282865
t. jewhan
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>>155282892
It's dead cunt

get over it
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>download all the EUIV DLCs because Steam sale
>forget to buy Art of War
>have to manually demolish obsolete ships and build new ones EVERY. OTHER. BIRDMANA LEVEL.
>look up if there's a way to automatically do this outside of AoW
>somebody asked in the Pairacucks forums
>"There isn't, you have to do everything manually. I think what Paradox was going for with this was simulating a naval arms race, which they did a GREAT job with! :)"
Wow, I thought it was a meme that these people enjoyed eating shit, I'm never doubting you guys ever again.
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>>155283097
Just buy the DLC you dumb fuck
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>>155283129
Sale's over, it's like 16 GBP now and I'm not paying that for shit that should already be in the game.
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>>155283207
Then bloo bloo you have to build your boats manually you entitled pissbaby
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>>155283248
t. Johan
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>>155283169
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>>155283268
Johan is based and you are fucking SHIT
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threadly reminder that there is literally nothing wrong with international communism
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>>155283481
fuck u

liberalism is based
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>>155283481
#blacklivesmatter
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>>155283525
>fuck u communism is based
wtf? you do realise that liberalism doesn't mean the same thing it used to mean once?
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>>155283628
Who are you quoting?
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>>155283718
this poster right here >>155283525
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>>155283737
No you aren't
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>>155283782
I'm pretty sure I am
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>>155283481
see
>>155282164
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Daily reminder Sulla did nothing wrong.
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>tfw finally get nickname "the Lewd"
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>>155284039
Why is she biting her fingernails?
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>>155284546
because some yellow man wrote her to do that
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>>155284039
I know this is a longshot but could you possibly link me to a particular doujin that featured a black haired futanari and a blonde?

I know it sounds incredibly vague but a crop from it was a really popular reaction image and the style is reminiscent of the image you just posted so maybe you know what I am talking about?
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>>155284546
must be hungry

for penis xd
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>>155284546
Why all Hentai females lack personalities?
Because you're not supposed to take them out for dinner you idiot.
>>155284937
Is it in color?
>>
Should my Israel be Feudal or a Merchant Republic?

Starting out as a custom count under the Kingdom of Jerusalem at 1103 in HIP
>>
What's your favourite country to play in Vicky and why?

I like France because of comfy colonial gains and a strong central position on the European continent.
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>>155285003
No, it isn't. I vaguely remember the black haired futa had a neutral or a somewhat angry looking facial expression while she penetrated the blonde from behind, but I could be misremembering.

All I know that the crop was constantly posted as a reaction image.
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>>155285229
Sorry then mate, too vague.
Its like saying you want an interracial porn movie with a blonde that has an angry face.
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>Romes used concrete
>technique was forgotten during Dark Ages
Why didnt Byzantines use it?
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>>155285592
you know that dog is dead
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>>155285683
:(
So is Byzantium
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>>155285592
Because they aren't roman
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>>155285406
But the crop was really, really popular as a reaction image. Especially on /v/. I guess I gonna go to /r/ and ask them to dump all their cropped hentai reaction images.
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>>155285149
I have a feeling I already know the answer, but come on lads

pic unrelated
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>>155285229
I know exactly what you mean, I don't have it saved though.
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>>155285959
Can merchant republics Holy War neighbors for land?
You should be Viking Jewish Jerusalem.
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>>155286016
>I don't have it saved though

Well shit.
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Who do I play as lads?
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>>155286671
HRVATSKA
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>>155287083
>playing nobodies
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>>155287120
>not wanting to make nobodies somebodies
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>>155287372
>Croatians are this desperate to be somebodies
t.pope
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How would you fix Vicky 2's land combat system? (ideas for Vicky 3):

-Manpower pool per region combined (to avoid issues like having 5 provinces with 900 soldiers each and not being able to recruit a single brigade)

-Remove 1000 people = 3000 soldiers nonsense. 1 person represents 1 soldier.
-Brigades are 3000 people strong (paired with the above tweaks, it should be fine)
-Normal military equipment needs (like food, weapons, ammo and uniforms); not having liquor/wine shouldn't prevent you from building an army or demoralize your troops

-Simple supply system
-Dynamic attrition
-Armies can engage each other over bordering provinces instead of engaging on while the same province
-Weather and seasons affect combat/attrition
-Adjusted occupation times

-General traits offer slightly weaker bonuses, but there is more variety
-Generals can gain traits depending on their experience
-General limit based on population/tech, generals can be fired after 5 years

-Dice rolls replaced by Tactics
-"Tactics" variables: randomness, general traits/skill, military tech
-Alternatively dice rolls impact is reduced (from 0-9 to 0-3)

-Artillery regiments can be "added" on infantry units (to prevent autistic AI from fielding pure infantry or pure artillery armies and get destroyed)
-Units do not continuously consume 100% of given supply, they consume 33% of it when stationary and 100% of it when moving or fighting

-Mobilizing time and size depends on conscription law / mobilized troops require military equipment to deploy, otherwise they remain in the pool
-A portion of the mobilization pool can be something other than infantry

-Add a basic airport system or completely remove airplanes
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>>155287120
>OMG that's not GroBpreussichegermaniumsreich! >:(
t. 12 year old
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Austria was a mistake
>>
>>>/int/65130649
Why are monkeys such good goys?
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>>155287964
Because Jews destroyed Rome.
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>>155287485
t. Slovene
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>>155288065
>comparing somebodies to nobodies
Its like comparing Swiss to Bulgarians.
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>>155288160
>Swiss
>somebodies
pick one
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>>155287857
Austria is so cancerous that even historically their territory expanded like a tumor.
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>>155287083
So okay what's my end game? Create yugoslavia?
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>>155288280
t.Croat
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>>155288160
/gsg/ meme relevance isn't analogous to real life relevance, janez
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>>155288312
become a vassal of hungary and be ruled by foreigners for a thousand years
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>>155288280
They're the papal guard
Also Swiss banks are a meme
Also muh pikemen
>>
>>155288347
But it is.
Slovenia to Croatia is what dunno...Netherlands is to Spain?

How prosperous is Portugal compared to Spain nowadays?
>>
What's with the "every game of vic 2 is the same" meme
>>
>>155288484
I'm pretty sure it's literally shit tier, something like 76 to France's 300

>>155288521
I haven't heard this line in literally months
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>>155288484
I thought we were talking about historical relevance, not economical development.


inb4 economical development is relevance
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>>155288579
>historical relevance
>Croatia
So we went from nobodies to absolute nobodies
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>>155288579
>inb4 economical development is relevance
desu unless you were relevant for getting your shit absolutely pushed in you were probably at least somewhat developed when you were relevant
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>>155288627
still more relevant than the autonomous croatian alpine region called slovenia:^)
>>
>>155288774
But im not Slovenian mate.
Also thats Austrian land that has nothing to do with Croats. Same goes with Istria.
>>
>convert to iconoclast as georgia
>only get one son, he's a lunatic
>he dies at 13
>female ruler for the next 30 years dies of dysentery
>make zero allies or children despite 15-35% fertlity bonus on all my rulers
>now playing as her half-brother
>when i finally am able to marry someone literally every large ruler of europe has no living sons or daughters
>seljuk invasion kills me
am i just garbage?
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How much quality has this general dropped within 2016?
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>>155289038
That sounds great.
Do you really want smooth stable games?
>>
>>155289040
It's incredible. I still think it's just a small group of unfunny teenagers who are behind most of the asinine shit.
>>
>>155289040
now this is what I call a horrible post
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>>155289228
It is.
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>>155289228
/gsg/ is unfunny asinine shit
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Which borders for austria?
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>>155289040
How many good games has Paradox made since CK2?
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>>155289384
Austria should not have any Polish territory.
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>>155289565
t. pole PRO
>>
>>155267616
>tfw the next patch will include a strait form Norway to Jan Mayen
>>
>>155289721
I see nothing wrong
>>
>>155289721
>tfw no strait from plymouth to maine
>>
>>155289721
>mfw no strait from Serbia to Tokyo
>>
>>155289415
Is there a mod for CK2 that allows me to convert to Hellenism when I restore the Roman Empire? Becoming christian was a mistake
>>
>>155290273
You can do that in CK2+ and it counts for adequate religion for staying Byzantium.

You can also go ancient Egypt and rebuild Luxor.
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>>155289721
>mfw no strait from berlin to the moon
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>>155290396
Soon™
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>>155290396
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKUuA4B7qQw
>>
>send 21 steward to collect taxes
>he gets killed by an angry mob a few days later
>how peculiar, my past 8 steward collected taxes for years until i had him replaced, good thing i have another 21 steward
>he gets killed by an angry mob a few days later
>>
>>155289721
>tfw no strait from Cornwall to Newfoundland
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>>155289415
Stellaris
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>>155290623
>Stellaris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4
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>>155290628
more upset about that Grossalbums dicking England in the ass
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is this memes?
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>>155290905
>the earth is round
>breakthrough
>12th century
Yes, my friend, this is reddit, this is memes
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>>155290905
?
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>>155290905
What about it?
There were 6-7th century scholars who claimed earth was round.
>>
>>155287598
But if you remove dice rolls I can't savescum before every battle and keep reloading until I get a 9 and they get a 0
>>
>>155290905
>you will never close the scientific gap left by the christian dark ages
we could be living on jupiter right now
>>
>>155291479
Literally the Greeks claimed the Earth was round and the chinks kind of said it in a roundabout way because you can't be at the center of a sphere
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>>155291479
That it revolved around the sun was early.

That it was round dates back to the 6th century bc, and basically provend 3rd century bc.
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>>155291628
>tfw we could've been exploring outer singularity by now
>>
>>155291721
The concept of it revolving around the sun was a thing since the Greeks, they even tried to prove it
The reason they settled on Earth-centered was because they didn't realize how fucking far the stars were, assuming they were planet-distance at most, and didn't see a parallax with their best efforts.
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>>155291636
>>155291721
>that feel when Roman Empire would have landed on Moon by 1200 AD
>>
>>155291932
http://store.steampowered.com/app/313660/
>>
>>155291959
Good mene
I like it
>>
>>155291959
WAGGLE YOUR TAMMY
>>
>>155269802
>not converting all of Germany into a glorious Republic
Do it for Rosa
>>
>>155291959
just posted this meme to /r/paradoxplaza before it could even take off here :^)
>>
>>155291959
>>155292002
>>155292016
>>155292115
>>155292165
>>155292182
>>155292245
in what game
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>>155292340
Liqqy
>>
>>155291959
absolutely phenomenal
>>
>byzantine joins a holy war
>they have 20k troops standing in their territory doing nothing while sending 3k parties into the enemy feeding them warscore
for what reason?
>>
>>155292647
Historical accuracy
>>
Can the Heavenly Kingdom form China?
>>
>>155293015
HPM?
Sure it can but you will fall apart to Warlord States as usual.
>>
>>155292638
brilliant. how will big benis in my anus recover?
>>
>>155292638
Someone should point out to him that most of those posts are made by individual shitposters or outside raiding parties like memegroup and steamgroup and the likes
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>>155291764
Holy shit, why have I laughed so much for this? Fucking saved
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>Hunting
>Jain

Umm, Paracucks!??
>>
>>155292638
holy shit reddit is mad as fuck
>>
>>155292638
>literal redditors are lurking here
ebin
>>
>>155289415
rome was always shit
>>
You could have prevented this.
But you all chose to side with the r&i and talex.
This is the future you chose.

t. cobra
>>
>>155291882
>The concept of it revolving around the sun was a thing since the Greeks, they even tried to prove it
I did not know that
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>>155293892
It sure was.
Remember 6 gorrilion Jews they crucified.

Also reminder Jews are so high and mighty they chose to forsake new converts instead of merging with them.
>>
>>155293497
This. We used to raid leddit from the thread but people stopped doing it for some reason and only the gruppes do it now.
>>
>>155294029
>still thinks Alex brought reddit here and not BIG BENIS with his ebin expedition to redpill leddit
>>
>>155294205
No, we never used to do it. It was always the same groups and same shitposters. Only teenagers think "raiding" is fun.
>>
>>155294168
based nazi inspired pagan
>>
to the posters discussing reddit
you are as bad as /pol/ with their social media posts
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>>155294318
redditors were perfectly content to receive updates posted on reddit by the few redditors who actually came here
big benis gave them a sort of crusader mindset in which they had to convert us
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>>155294318
>HPM has brought more redditors here than anything in /gsg/ history
>only mod that improves the game properly
No shit sherlock.

Now if HPM was Reddit mod,would you play it?
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>>155294338
protip: it's the same retards
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>Allied to Austria
>+112 relations
>Hostile Attitude
I don't think this alliance is going to last much longer.
Luckily I can replace them with France since France joined my side on the league war.
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>>155294365
>last post seven days ago
>he still thinks """raiding""" reddit is funny and epic
literally 12 year old
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>amass a shit ton of cash as georgia
>holy war by seljuks here we go
>spend 3k gold but survive
>subjugation war by inalids
>spend the 3k gold i got from enforcing demands on the previous war to survive
>tfw i didn't declare war on them first and now i can't expand
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>>155294464
In his own words, it's okay because he's either redpilling them, insulting "gommies" or defending nationalism on the internet which is serious business.
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>>155294604
>or defending nationalism on the internet which is serious business.
It's important that we have people like him.
Otherwise people wouldn't take us seriously.
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>>155294464
we used to raid reddit all the time

it got so bad once meneth even came back here to tell us to stop

>inb4 "we"
Face it, this general is majority shitposters.
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>>155278997
They eventually went on to annex everything except Mongolia and Tibet. I managed to nab Taiwan from Fujian before they croaked.
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>>155294604
butthurt communists on /r/paradoxplaza are funny as hell
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>>155294656
No we didn't 12-year-old and that never happened.
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>>155294604
I used to shit on BBIMA all the time but not for any of those reasons. It's perfectly fine to piss off reddit as long as you don't mention /gsg/ which he did.
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>>155294940
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/110063589/
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>>155295075
>he thinks a meme letter we sent once was a raid
lol, I remember we sent one of these to the pope too. It was funny, but still not a raid.
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>>155295075
What I'm supposed to be seeing here?
I'm not reading the entire thread, quote shit.
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>>155295171
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/110063589/#11007179
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>>155295140
>we
No, a bunch of 12 teenagers.
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>>155295254
>11007179
There's no post with that number retard.
You can't even shit?
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>>155294338
>implying /pol/ on social media is bad at all
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>>155295272
I mean, it was pretty infantile humour, but the whole of /gsg/ is like 12 people constantly samefagging anyway.
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Quick screenshot of the Black Death from the new CK2 DLC. It started in France and spread all the way to the Middle East within about 5 years. My capital is in Isfahan and surrounded by fully upgraded hospitals, but it only seemed to barely slow it down. My 26 skill physician was able to cure my ruler and heir, thankfully, but the rest of the court is dying off. I had to mute the game because of the constant dying coughing fits.
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>>155295372
>implying
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>>155295363
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/110063589/#110079179
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>>155295512
>You do realize we've got automoderator filters that pick up this kind of nonsense?
>It got removed by AutoMod roughly a second after it was posted.

Is that supposed to prove that, and I quote,

>it got so bad once meneth even came back here to tell us to stop
?
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>>155295412
>generalizing a thread that has average 106 unique IPs
Sure the number of teenagers increased in these last few years but it's always the same teenagers while the vast majority of the thread don't engage in this shit.
Even the number is high, there's like 6-8 teenagers shitposting here on high times and that's usually late american hours or past school american hours.
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>>155295479
Nice photoprojection
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>>155295438
The Middle East has become a savage wasteland of death and decay
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>>155295971
It's brutal, but sometimes I think it's not enough. I saw a leper get the plague and survive it.
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>get great pox
>die
>death flavour text says "died of syphilis"
>Aztecs invade
>get "syphilis brought over from the west" event
>syphilis epidemics now break out across the whole world

nice meme
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>>155296105
I agree, I thought it was odd that both my ruler and heir were cured of the Black Death. I looked it up and apparently it had a mortality rate of about 75-95% if you contracted it.
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>>155296335
t. camarada pablo jaurez
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>>155296031
tbqh i think it's just that a lot of political tension rose in mid summer 2016 and everyone thinks everyone is out to attack their ideology.
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>>155296431
I wouldn't have a problem with rulers surviving it really, but getting the plague and leper should be a fucking death sentence, no escaping.
One of my daughters caught and died in like a fucking week.
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>>155296031
Yes, there's a grand conspiracy to change /gsg/ to be like tumblr.
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>>155295971
Now fight for the little resources it has left
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>>155296792
get with the times grandpa
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>>155296605
t. economy pro
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why make me league leader
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>half my courtiers are ambitious
>none of them are content
johan?
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>>155296031
It's just shitposting as usual, only that they're using the current political climate as easy bait and people here are retarded enough to fall for it.

/gsg/ is nowhere as popular as it was a few years back and grand strategy games are already a very niche genre, this place isn't relevant enough for any sort of shill, redditor or /v/ermin to pay attention to.
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>>155296934
Just let France fuck shit up for you, they own half of spain and england
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>>155263669
>those easy-to-digest content really renforce the opinion inherent to my character
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So my ruler died and the only heir is his sister who is married with like, 4 boys. If I divorce and/or murder the husband and then have a matrilineal marriage and then have a son, will that son go to the front of the line being that he's of the same dynasty? Or do I have to go on a rampage and murder a big pile of brown babies?
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>>155297250
I actually liked how butthurt you made Meneth. It was just the /gsg/ caps i had a problem with.
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>half the thread gets deleted
jannie woke up
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>>155295971
>The Middle East has become a savage wasteland of death and decay
At last, believable worlds
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>>155292638
>It's no
>It is
>It is
>It Isn't
>Yeah I did
>No you didn't
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>all those deleted posts
epic
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>>155293497
>Someone should point out to him

Why? Why the fuck would you care what reddit thinks of us? The lower opinion they have of us the better.
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>>155297574
Honestly I don't believe I do. This thread is constantly lambasting my actions and what I have done, and rightly so. I never intended any of this to play out as it has. I just thought that I could make /r/paradoxplaza good, but it backfired spectacularly, the whole reason /gsg/ is shit now is, along with stellaris/the /v/invasion, my fault. I just want to make it known that I didn't want this to happen and I hate the realities of the situation more than anyone. An immense feeling of guilt washes over me whenever I see communists/meme spouting faggots here, knowing that it's my fault. There is simply no viable grand strategy forum left except tomatobb due to my actions.

>>155297825
Thank you, me lad. The posting of /gsg/ screenies was a flawed attempt to make /r/paradoxplaza more susceptible/supportive of our viewpoints. Instead their most zealous communists/paradrones decided they were going to make /gsg/ like /r/paradoxplaza, and they have.
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>Play Burgundy
>Europe stabilizes into perfect de jure borders
>Play Frisia
>European kingdoms disintegrate into a border gore mess
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>>155298380
t. /u/HenryPouet
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>>155298340
It probably would've happened eventually since /r/paradoxplza already knew about us. You just kinda sped up the process.

Honestly i think you beat yourself up over it a little to much and give yourself too much credit for bringing reddit here. They've been coming here since Vickymod and some dude shitposting there probably didn't affect the speed too much.
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>>155298340
>The posting of /gsg/ screenies was a flawed attempt to make /r/paradoxplaza more susceptible/supportive of our viewpoints.
>more susceptible/supportive of our viewpoints.

Good god. But fucking why? Why are you so autistic? Why do you take the internet so fucking seriously? I thought this was all some multilayered ironic shitposting but it seems you're actually genuine.

What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>155298380
>>he is a british teenage redditor
True. Leeds United until I die tbvqh laddo.
>who was banned by meneth
Also true. Memeth hates me shitting up reddit.
>>he came here looking for validation from /gsg/ for some reason
I started out here, saw some people raiding reddit and decided to join in, as the months past the other people raiding whittled away and I suppose I'm the only one left.
>>defending nationalism on reddit is serious business
What's wrong with nationalism? /r/paradoxplaza being 90% communist is one of the reasons I still raid it, because it's so easy to piss them off.
>>he believes spurdo is the highest form of humour
Spurdo is up there with smug anime face tbvqh.
>>whenever the liquor meme is mentioned he is triggered into an epic sperg rampage against the reddit steamcord that is oppressing poor vicky players with ms paint comics, schizophrenic copypastas, and xDxD posts until half the thread is wiped
I dislike liquor posting because it's original aims were accomplished, HPM lowered liquors prices the meme serves no practical purpose now.
>>whenever eu4 is mentioned he rages and posts the uninstall.exe meme
Not true, I like EU4, though dislike the point system.
>>if you think hoi3 is a complex and good game big benis will call you a redditor, ignoring the fact that liq 2 is reddit's favorite game and hoi3 is never talked about
Also not true, I love HoI3.

>>155298698
Either way /gsg/ is cancer now and I feel partly responsible.

>>155298863
Mainly because it pissed meneth off tbvqh.
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>>155298863
>play the most autistic games
>surprised when actual autists show up
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>>155298380
how do you even know the people in your picture are him? I think you're the real schizo lad
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What's my next step? I'm allied with Austria, Hungary, Brandenburg, France and Russia.
Should I go for Southern Italy or continue along the Mediterranean sea?
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>>155299131
he literally admitted it
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>>155298863
>not being autistic
gtfo redditor
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>>155298380
He's also https://www.reddit.com/user/Napoleon_XL and /user/waggle_ur_groB_willy
i forgot his first name but iirc his shit aar got no love on reddit and he came here to link it directly - got banned a bit later by meneth
he just craves recognition
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>>155299224
Half of those aren't me, particularly the copypastas on the left.
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>>155299053
>le autism hurr hehehe

just fuck off with that bullshit, he's isn't autistic, he's just an attention whoring cancer
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>>155299053
i forgot that some people here are not pretending
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>>155299320
That wasn't me. I mean, it's an obvious false flag.

>>155299268
The actual story is I posted a meme AAR there with racial epithets and slurs in, it got lots of upvotes, surprisingly, that was also to piss off Meneth.

I still do it because Meneth bans anyone not left wing and I find it funny to annoy the communists there.

>he just craves recognition
True. I draw the line at tripfagging though.
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I Fucking love Germany
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>>155299051
I love you lad
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>>155299175
Either try to destabilize the Marmadukes or make a clutch play for Rome.

Go big or go home, my dude.
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>>155299525
>I draw the line at tripfagging though.

please get a trip so I can filter your mental diarrhea please I beg you
>>
Has HPM finally added historically-appropriate population growth modifiers?

You really can't represent 19th century demographics without them. Just among the great powers, you had the USA with really high birth rates, and France with really low. The USA can get away with immigration, but it's harder to properly represent the decline of France compared to Germany without France's historical pop growth problem.

Also, it would be a nice way for late-blooming industrializers to take off and match Europeans, as they historically did (albeit generally in the 20th century because only the japs successfully modernized in the V2 era). As-is, pop growth is only directly tied to tech advancement. Would be nice to see industrialization eventually reduce pop growth.
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>>155299525
so why are u not using BigBenis anymore anyway?
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>>155299665
>industrialization reduces pop growth
wew lad...
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>>155299525
I actually think you were pretty based. It was just the references to /gsg/ that i had a problem with.

You provided us with tons of Meneth butthurt. I have an entire folder full of redditors and Meneth sperging out at you.
>>
Posted it last thread, didn't get any suggestions:

I've fully consolidated control of my Catholic Norse kingdom of Tangiers (de jure borders of Mauretania), and forced Ghana to turn Catholic as well. What should my next move be?
>>
Burgundy in HPM when?
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>>155299569
Thanks, lad. I admired your early works, but your derivatives fall short of the mark.

>>155299692
I get banned a lot by Meneth, so I make new accs. I always have recognisable usernames because if I don't I forget them. Big_benis is banned from /r/paradoxplaza.

>>155299794
Wew, good on you, lad. As I say, the only motivation to carry on is redditor butthurt.
>>
>>155299751

>Would be nice to see industrialization eventually reduce pop growth.

The initial explosion due to more resources and better medicine, followed by a sharp decline due to people prioritizing things other than child-rearing, is a well recorded phenomenon.

The latter isn't necessarily tied to actual industrialization, but definitely to the process of technological and cultural modernization that you see in Western countries over the course of Vicky II.
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>>155299820
Take the rest of Africa and form a katholik kangdom.

>>155299794
Post some.
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Why is big benis in the spotlight again? I haven't heard of him since before the stellaris shitstorm..
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>>155299950
Do you remember the liquor war of April 2016?
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>>155300180
because he loves recognition and we have literally nothing else to talk about
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>>155300008
There's also that development in medicine primarily increases life expectancy, not birth rate, so growth rates tied to that should wear off after a while as the population adjusts.

There's no real good way to handle that though since the easiest method would basically be to kill off any late-industrialising nations that don't have perfect research, and to do otherwise would induce a huge computational liability.
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>>155300179
Don't really feel like dumping the whole folder but this is one.
>>
What's with the deleted posts? Why are mods deleting them?
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>>155300180
I've become a boogeyman of an ass devastated redditor who also goes on /gsg/, on top of that discord also hates me.

See: https://www.reddit.com/r/paradoxplaza/comments/53j7t1/please_stop_the_victoria_2_has_mana_argument/d7ufmmr?context=3

>>155300230
I've been here since just before EvW was released, I used to agree with the liquor meme but now dislike it because HPM since nerfed liquor by lowering it's price. IMO the only people still posting it are discord shitters who want to disrupt the general and redditors who genuinely hate Vicky because it has too much micromanagement.

>>155300312
t. /u/HenryPouet
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>Russia intervenes in my annexation of Serbia even though we had an alliance
Why can't they let me have the Serbs?
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>>155300528
>he didnt invite Russia into the war
Get rekt.
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>>155300524
>I've been here since just before EvW

Wow you're literally r*ddit.
>>
>>155300524
ooow, big benis made a friend
>>
>>155300528
t. Franz Joseph I

>>155300638
>implying you've been here longer

>>155300673
no mum i hate him REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>155300179
I wanted to keep it comfy, but I suppose I could expand as far as Algiers. I might pick up the Canaries as well, for extra Kangz breeding stock.
>>
>>155300638
2014 is the cutoff for being reddit

if you came here past 2014 you're probably a redditor or a /v/edditor
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>>155300524
>IMO the only people still posting it are discord shitters who want to disrupt the general


Kinda like what you're doing with your ebin leddit screencaps?

>>155300757
>implying you've been here longer
>lol guize you're all newfags just like me amirite!?

christ
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>>155300767
All of Africa is worth less than a single province of Europe.

>>155300849
You act like upsetting redditors is a bad thing.
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Explain this bullshit. Whats the point of even blockading the straights if they can still walk right across?
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>>155300524
HPM nerfing liquor is a common misconception desu. He decreased liquor price significantly and demand slightly, but he made liquor factories produce more to compensate. Liquor factories are just as profitable as before. The real reason behind the change was to make it easier for pops to buy the cheaper liquor and therefore fulfill their everyday needs, since liquor was one of the most expensive needs at 6.4 pounds. The fact that is the most consumed didn't help either, but it is realistic.
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r8 my gross Polska
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>>155300915
So it was just a coincidence that he lowered liquor's price at the height of liquor memeing?
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>>155300837
>he hasn't been posting since 31 BC
Lurk 2000 years
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>>155300412

>There's also that development in medicine primarily increases life expectancy, not birth rate,

It also reduces infant mortality rates, which is a major driver of population growth.

All you need to do is have the pop growth boosts from industrialization wear off after a certain time. Or to be more accurate, tie it to specific techs which represent things that actually contributed to the drop in birth rate (probably mostly cultural techs and social reforms).
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>>155300910
Paradox is shit at coding ai so naval landings dont work.

Unless its EU3, apparently they had a brain there.
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>>155300890
I guess I'll also have to plant a foot in Andalusia as well then!

>>155300979
>this entire goddamn image
>mfw
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>>155300979
epic blob
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>>155300979
Disgusting blob
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>>155300910

In real life, by this point the Ottomans had block off the straits the other way around, by putting forts on either side of the Bosphorus.

Yes, the Bosphorus, because in real life the Byzantines didn't even control out to the Black Sea coast from Constantinople.

Byzzie shits need to stop whining, and be happy that Morea isn't a separate vassal country.
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>>155300837
>the cutoff is the year when I started browsing alright guys?

everyone who wasn't around when /vg/ wasn't a thing and we were on /v/ is leddit and should fuck off
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>>155300915
This is news to me, lad. Though I maintain that the liquor meme is used nefariously by the discord purely to cause drama. Cobra even admitted that he solely played V2 w/ HPM yet still used the meme because it got a rise out of people. You have to question whether people should be less defensive about it though.

>>155301141
Stay out of Andalusia. That's for white men.

>>155301081
>naval invasion was good in EU3
WEW
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>>155300915
>Liquor factories are just as profitable as before.
>>
>>155301164
>>155301203
>Russian empire borders plus former slavic lands in germany
>Epic blob

Meme harder
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>>155301236
this

anyone who wasn't around for the /v/ threads and the pre-/vg/ split is leddit
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>>155300979
> 4th
>>
1-3 the reich xD
4-6 urss
7-9 france?
0 japan??
>>
>>155301272
>naval invasion was good in EU3
Nah it was bad but you know what?
Ai at least landed bigger stacks.
>>
>>155301357
The only people who are still around from when /gsg/ was on /v/ are the steamgroup.
>>
>>155300849
https://www.reddit.com/r/paradoxplaza/comments/53mkz3/vic2_what_is_your_favourite_thing_about_the/

just for u bb
reddit is based
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>>155301396
The game has a funny way of counting score
I don't even pay attention to it anymore
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>>155301236

People should care about quality of posts, not date you arrived here.

I'll take a newfag from reddit over a (relative) oldfag who hit his 20s, glimpsed the inherent meaninglessness of life, and turned to evangelical /pol/posting as the answer.
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>>155301357
r8 my epic blob pls http://imgur.com/a/8Yhiv
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>>155301236
I've actually been here since /v/, i was even around for powell.

I chose 2014 as the cutoff date because that's when Redditors started using our memes and migrating here en masse. Reddit has been coming here since Vickymod but we were still getting more newfags from 4chan than newfags from reddit back then.
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>>155301524
>implying the majority of /pol/tards aren't new as fuck
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>>155301447
>the genocide
>>i ron't feel good about saying it but you're right
Jesus fucking christ. This is why I raid them. So many things wrong with just those two comments.

>hpm is the only mod with genocide
>being so much of a cuck virtual genocide upsets you
>thinking a shitty meme decision is the best mechanic of hpm
>this much guilt over playing a fucking game
>>
>>155301638
This.
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>>155301524
>I'll take a newfag from reddit over a (relative) oldfag
t. reddit
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>>155301640
>people with different opinions trigger me
so it is true that you're a teenage brit eh
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>>155301524
What's wrong with /pol/posting? /pol/ since flags is of course cancer but if you are genuinely triggered by right wing peolle uou need to go to /r/paradoxplaza.
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>>155301036
The early liquormemers (like me) saw nothing wrong with liquor being profitable or in demand. What they did have a problem with was liquor being so expensive that pops were unable to buy it and therefore they were unable meet their everyday needs and causing militancy problems. Keep in mind that even when 6.4 pounds was the default price of liquor (already too high), the insanely high demand could send it well over 7 pounds, making it very hard for pops to get their hands on some booze. Lowering the price and increasing the production led to more liquor in the hands of everyone, meaning that liquor is ironically more profitable after this "nerf", and the lower classes are generally better off, and for this I applaud HPM.
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>>155301272
>white men
But we are white. Tangiers is a kingdom of good Norse Catholics.
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>>155301640
That's what every normal person would say.

>hey Jim what do you like the most about those map painters I see you playing all day
>*heavy breathing* I l-like the part when I kill huge amount of undesirables, h-haha

Real world isn't like 4chan, benis.
>>
*posts video games*
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>>155301746
19 is still teenage, laddo.
Do you unironically find virtual genocide to be morally ambiguous?

>>155301810
You can't own land in Europe and Africa. Either play as a European country or rhodesiums, but not both.

>>155301927
But this is the internet, people shouldn't be upset by a pie chart changing.
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>>155301936
but what game
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>>155299320
you call this >>155299525 not autism?
pretending to have autism just means they're rationalizing it because they can't cope with the truth, which really just makes it all the better for spectators sides
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>>155301927
>caring about what normal people would say
t. reddit
>>
>Needs army mana to fucking change division templates

I can't believe this shit
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>>155302040
>shitting on r*ddit is autism
You're pretty eager to defend them, laddo.
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>>155301638

Oh, I know a lot of them are, I was just setting up a hypothetical to demonstrate my point.

I don't care if someone's a newfag and posts on /pol/ regularly, as long as they keep their containment board-tier posting on their containment board.

>>155301758

>but if you are genuinely triggered by right wing peolle uou need to go to /r/paradoxplaza.

I'm triggered by abject stupidity. Although relatively liberal myself, I can intellectually respect the right wingers and right wing ideologies that are intellectually respectable.

Which doesn't include the conservative male equivalent of the tumblrina.
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>>155299175
What's your view on the other christians?
Going for Pentarchy and removing the papacy could be a goal then.
Otherwise reclaiming Damascus and Egypt.

Personal meme goal I'd go for is to make Persia Zoroastrianist if that province is still there.

Adopt oligarchic administration, move cap to Rome
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>>155302072
That's what I was saying you stupid fuck, big benis cares really much since he gets triggered by reddit apparently
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>>155302197
>middle-class white boy with no friends but maps grows up to be a conservative with a superiority complex
in other news, water is wet
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>>155301997
>but this is the internet

The internet isn't 4chan, or are you this much of a mongoloid that you cannot comprehend that different social norms are valid for other forums?
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>I'm triggered by abject stupidity. Although relatively liberal myself, I can intellectually respect the right wingers and right wing ideologies that are intellectually respectable.
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>>155302421
>fedora image

Really fucking btfo that nigger loving nu-cuck, fellow redpilled /pol/ /b/ro!
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>>155302405

Well, I was a middle class white boy with (hardly any) friends but maps, and I never took my meme campaigns as a starting point for real life philosophy.
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>>155302421
>i'll post the hat meme that'll show him xd
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>>155302545
This but unoronically.
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>>155302417
>trolling reddit is wrong
sup reddit
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>>155302197
>"I can intellectually respect ideologies that are intellectually respectable"
Your 17 years old is showing.
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>>155301761
>What they did have a problem with was liquor being so expensive that pops were unable to buy it

this is actually realistic which I find quite funny. People used to smoke opium all the damn time because it was a hell of a lot cheaper than boozing.
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>>155302421
dont bully him or he's gonna go cry to reddit
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>>155302545
>>155302570
>i am only triggered by those of intellectual inferiority, far too enlightened for this drivel.
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>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_from_Poland_during_and_after_World_War_II
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_for_the_Determination_of_Place_Names
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emigration_from_Poland_to_Germany_after_World_War_II
I'm not a naziboo or anything, but reading about this makes me very sad. The Soviets should have just returned the Germans to Weimar borders, just maybe without Prussia.
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>>155302197
>‘In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony god’s blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my intelligence.’"
t. you
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>>155302973
True, The Weimar borders were actually kind of nice. Poland looked good as well.
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>pay ~50 gold per month for forts maintenance
>have 1 fire and 1 shock point from offensive and 1 maneuver point from defensive
>80 army tradition

Why is this game so shit?
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>>155302973
Germans shouldn't have awoke the Slav Bear :))
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>>155302131
if you weren't convinced before, follow this comment chain and realize he is indeed the king of autists, not a mere attention whore
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what's going on right now isn't even shitposting, it's pure meta drama butthurt

this is the result of 6 years of autism and the final stage of /gsg/
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>>155302421
>>155302661
>>155302908


>he said he's liberal and used serious English instead of memespeak
>I-I know, I'll call him a fedora, th-that'll show him!

Another victory for the white race! Why don't you post some Grossgermaniums to celebrate this glorious Sieg!*
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>>155303149
honestly since around june every time i come here i feel like everyone is being passive aggressive, getting into off topic political arguments or walking on eggshells so they don't start a huge argument.

When and why did this start happening?
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>>155303258
that was literally "In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony god’s blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my intelligence.’" tier
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>>155302973

If you gon' start some shit, don't complain when your shit gets kicked in.
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>>155303258
All I'm gonna say is if a sentences start with "I..." leading into "intellectually" inside of 5 words it immediately suggests certain things.

As a general rule 'I' is fodder for the ego, and there were quite a few in there.
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>tfw you're in Gavelkind succ but you have like a dozen daughters to one son so it's cool
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council is dumb i'm disabling it on future playthroughs
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>>155303321
gsg needs a great cleansing flood

Alex grandi shall tell unto one of us to build a great arkive, containing within all the innocent mods while the rest of sinful /gsg/ is purged.
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>>155303838
what do you want ALPHA
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>>155303858
can make liquor great again be on the arkive?
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>>155302917
>Is the aral sea missing?
breh...
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>>155303364
https://www.quora.com/Who-would-win-in-a-war-between-China-and-Russia

quora is based
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>>155303456
>>155303757

>he used words that are also used in a meme
>hey, that made me think of that meme! I know, I'll post that meme, and that will give me more internet points than him!

It was /pol/-tier.
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>>155303942
I don't think that's within grandi's divine plan
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>>155302314

>Recover from a huge revolution that happened a few month ago
>Get invaded
>Invader is supported by both USSR and US&co
>Push them back pretty quick
>Realize that if you push into their territory the US or USSR would intervene.

Iran won this let's be honest
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>>155304051

>if two nuclear powers go to war, it totally won't turn into a nuclear war, even if the side with a conventional disadvantage has a massive advantage in nukes!

China won't even invade Taiwan because the US has nuke subs off their coast, and you think if they'll try and invade Russia?

China doesn't even have enough nukes to target half of Russia's missile silos. Without their own (functional) version of Star Wars, China ain't gonna do shit in Siberia.
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>>155302973
>reading about the shit the russians did in east prussia in antony beevors book, Berlin: The Downfall


My dick was rock hard the entire time.
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>>155304262
>Iran lost its ability to power project over whole peninsula for forever
>Iraq got massive debt that could never be repaid

They both lost.
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>>155304379
based
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>>155304379
>51
It's impossible to get a factory to that level without cheating since it would take at least 102 years to upgrade not considering the time it takes to buy the materials, just assuming it got the material instantly and the time it finished constructing it was being upgraded again.
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>>155303321
Whenever i look at archived threads from pre summer 2016 i notice all the shit people are saying that you just couldn't say here today without someone getting offended by it and starting a huge off topic argument over it.

Something definitely changed during those months, i just don't know what it is.
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>>155304379
>a 51 cheated factory can't even make 3K
What a waste of workforce.
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>>155304735
t. edited the files to make liquor unprofitable pro
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>>155304834
That's unaltered HPM lad, it's not shit like he did where he got his factory to a level that's impossible without cheating.
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>>155304735
>a 27 cheated factory can't even make 9k
What a waste of a workforce.
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>>155302917
Wait, Lake Volta is artificial?
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>>155305131
>Lake Volta is a large reservoir contained behind the Akosombo Dam. It is completely within the country of Ghana and has a surface area of 8,502 square kilometres (3,283 sq mi).
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>>155302236
>>155299616
Also, I don't play with any DLC, ultimate goal would be forming Roman empire, but it's my first run as Byzantium and third game overall, so I'm not sure if it's gonna be possible. I'll try to go for pentarchy, but for that I have to conquer Rome, and it's gonna be a bit tough.
Especially since I'm lagging behind all technologies (I westernized, but that was a mistake).
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>>155305131
>dams make lakes
What seems to be the problem anon?
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>Alemannia
Ebin meme parabians
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and it was said that in the year of our lord and saviour Alex Grandi MMXVI an overflowing and cleansing flood would come from all of the worlds liquor distilleries, to once again restore balance in the long established gross realms
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>>155304593
>>155304735
autism
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>tfw to smart to browse the ebil nazi deep web forums of /pol/
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>>155305737
t.
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>>155305317
>Especially since I'm lagging behind all technologies
probably teching too early and not filling out enough ideas
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>>155306181
>wojak

kc tier
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>>155306181
>tfw I'm smart so I searched and found arguments that delivered devastating blows to virtually every angle of modern racial egalitarianism, from the philosophy of what constitutes a "valid" racial category to the definition of intelligence and how well it can be approximated using IQ, to why IQ nationalism in itself is not as preferable as white nationalism (diversity in itself lowers social cohesion, meaning irrespective of the IQ of the races living in that neighborhood)
>tfw /pol/ just regurgitates unfunny memes and there's nothing really there for me
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>>155306181
>tfw low enough intelligence to enjoy funposting on /pol/
>>
post anarcho-capitalism memes
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Good victoria 2 hpm youtubers?

Just found this guy. Looks promising
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYfa9ZaLPxE
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>>155306916
>20 minutes in
>he still hasn't gone state capitalist and built liquor and glass factories
wew
>>
>>155305706
>meme
how? allamans were a tribe just like the saxons. bavaria is honesly more of a meme
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>>155307082
He is a democracy. He can't change parties.
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>>155306916
>not only are there people who read the greentexts in this thread
>there are people who watch others play the game second by second
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>>155307190
I like watching while I play my self. It's comfy.
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>>155306438
I think westernization was a mistake. Cost me way too much, and I used up some admin power on stability. Right now I'm on level 17 with all techonoliges and on -15, -20, -20% cost because I'm so far behind.
Also, pic related is my army; should I reorganize?
>>
>>155307304
Liquoria 2
>>
>>155307304
based in what game poster
>>
What can you safely say about someone who save scums and only plays OP nations in pretty much every GS game?
>>
>>155307372
Go republic for those dank 6/6/6 rulers, you'll catch up in no time.
>>
https://youtu.be/IQpqH6IL7w4?t=1m11s
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>>155307372
>I think westernization was a mistake.
No
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>>155307437
>OP nations

Such as?
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>>155307304
Stellaris
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>>155307815
V2: France, UK, China, Japan, Prussia

EU4: France, Ottomans, England

HoI: Germany
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>>155307447
How do I go from monarchy to republic?

>>155307686
Really? It took me roughly 15 years, and in one save, I got unlucky and Poland and Russia got in a succession war over me.

Also, do I have too much cavalry?
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>>155307938
Man for man cavalry most likely deals more damage for you at that point.
I tend to just go for max flank unless I'm horde though since it's a lot cheaper and easier to manage combined arms.

Show me your ideas and technologies.

Do you know what combat width is?
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>>155307938
Check your Decisions, there should be one to go Oligarchic Republic.
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>>155307927
>V2: France, UK, China, Japan, Prussia
>not including USA and Austria
>>
>>155307841
Bilbo is a chubby qt
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>>155308274
Why are you trying to make him republic?
It takes two idea groups to take the decision and it doesn't give you on average 6-6-6 leaders.
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>>155308282
I haven't played as them yet but they'll be next.
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>>155308208
All technology is at 17, combat with is 15, pic related are my ideas.
I have 2 batallions of 15/10/5 and one of 15/10/10.
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>>155308493
>combat with is 15
No it is not.
Try again.

Inf/Cav/Art?
Inf/Art/Cav?
Why have you chosen that number of cavalry?
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>>155307372
Too much horses, not enough arty.
>>
Americans should be hanged in public for simply being Americans desu
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>>155309023
this
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>>155308743
>>155308775
It's +15 on the screen, I thought it's 15 total. It's inf/cav/art.
Why is there too many horses? Also, there's basically no forts in the south, and the highest level forts in the area I want to conquer (Italy) is 4.
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Aztecs finally keked by the black death
from 150k to 60k troops in 1 year
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>>155309164
Yes, +15.
Plus 15.
If you have mil tech 1, you'll have +0.
What combat width do you have then?

Do you know what combat width is?


>Why is there too many horses?
Instead answer why you decided on that number.
>>
Where do I get the current version of the CK2 mod "After the End"?

Their github seems abonded (latest release 0.5 to download there)

Research on an irrelevant board claims that a 0.8 is released.

Can anyone helps me?
>>
When converting a CK2 save into and EU4 one, how is Westernization determined? Tech level in capital province, or is it sheerly by location? Knowing Pcuck its probably the latter but I can hope.
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>>155309407
So 30.
No.
I thought you get a bonus for having them close, but less to 50% of your army.
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>>155309501
http://www.mediafire.com/download/eu9tktobqqgdc9g/After_the_End_0.8.zip
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>>155309615
wow that was fast.
THank you chapladm9.
Where do you have this from?
I would like the have an eye on the ongoing development.
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>>155309727
>>155309727
>>155309727
>>155309727
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>>155309164
The battle system works in a retarded way.
http://www.eu4wiki.com/Army#Composition

Having more than 2 cavalry early and more than 4 late is a waste.
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>>155309721
got it from leddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/comments/510a84/after_the_end_08_released_261_and_reapers_due/
they have a forum on paradoxplaza but you need to register
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>>155309793
Not true
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>>155309543
Yes 30.

>No.
It determines how many regiments can fight in the front row.
So with 30 you'll have 30 units put in the front row. Starting with infantry. Then cav then art iirc.
You don't want your artillery in the front row.

Right now you can have 2 flanking cav on each side.
So you want at least 4 Cav.
At mil tech 18 you can have 3 flanking cav on each side.
Then you'll want 6.

Due to supply limit and terrain modifiers you may not always be able to go for full width, but if possible you want to have 30 inf taking damage, full cav flank on each side, and then 30 artillery behind.
That may be expensive though so maybe try 25/4/15 first.
You can have additional infantry standing nearby and get ready to reinforce, in case your army is about to fight another large stack. Those reinforcement infantry are not in the same stack to avoid attrition.

You can have more cavalry than the flank range, but their ducat cost is rarely worth it imo.

>I thought you get a bonus for having them close, but less to 50% of your army.
You get a penalty if you have too much cav.
Depending on your tech group.
Nomad can have 100% cav.
I think muslims can have 80% cav, westerners 50%.
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>>155308362
Republics are objectively better.
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>>155309793
>Having more than 2 cavalry early and more than 4 late is a waste.
Cavalry deal more damage.

One time I was calculating, I think early 18th century persian army and I saw that my cavalry regiments outperformed my infantry regiments 1:1, so I coukld actually increase my damage if I chose to go beyond the flank.
I prefer to stick to the flank so I didn't increase the cav numbers beyond flank.

And even if you only stick to flank you want 4 cavalry early on, and then up to 10 by the end.
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>>155248965
fuck that
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>>155310387
>Cavalry deal more damage.
More than artillery?
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>>155310857
I don't know.
I don't see how it matters either.

Having more than 2 cavalry early is not necessarily a waste though, since they definitely outperform infantry in damage.
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>>155308362
>and it doesn't give you on average 6-6-6 leaders.
You have no idea how republics work, do you?
>>
>no mention of the ragamuffin war in the OP

hello
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>>155311683
It gives you the choice of a candidate that has 4 in one stat and 2 in the other.
You can reelect at the cost of republican tradition, but reelecting gives you +1 in each stat.
So no average of 6-6-6 rulers since you always start with something like 4-1-1

Clearly you have no idea how they work.
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