/edg/+/scg/ - Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous #48

Did we make it?

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Best ship.

>>154573895
negative, we lost half the fleet

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>>154573978

God damn Aquila collided with half of us in the jump!

HULLO!

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>>154573954
Let me fix that for you.

>>154573954
Best ship is already in the OP, nerd.

>>154574071
>Aquila that rams you at the least opportune times
>"Best ship" is always heard before impact

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>>154574140
>>154573858

Cutlass in its natural state of already having its main TR3 mav thrusters shot off.

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>>154574117

What is that stupid basketball on the nose even for, sensor housing?

>>154574170

Best grief

>>154574231
It's part of the design, additionally acting as a IR countermeasure, the flaming T4 thruster hurtling through space acts as a distraction while the Cutlass pilot leaves his ships, EVAs over to yours and hijacks it.

>>154574452
Why not keep it and upgrade your rig down the line, anon

Unless you're thinking of getting your 660 for time eternal

>>154574452
faker than the aurora giveaway

also bannable af

>>154574452
rollan

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>>154574452

Rollin

Also, crashed ships.

Origin 600 sale when?
Polaris sale when?
2.6 when?

So how long will ship delay delay 2.3 shipping?

>>154574452
Rolling.

But also probably >>154574549 given that it ran on my 650 until not too long ago.

>>154574452
rolling

>>154574452
Yeah right, lol. Roll.

>>154574452
trying again

>>154574937
Ranging anywhere from 5 minutes to an hour and 30 minutes. In other words, useless.

>>154575202
I thought they said it would be at least a month?

>>154575294
Sorry, I'm retarded and thought you were asking how long ship delay would take to transport.

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>>154575294
Likely 2-3 months pushback for 2.2 and every subsequent update, because fdev is incredibly incompetent. Just look how long it took to fix the auto turreting in PP CZs. And that was a tiny, tiny issue.

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>>154574572
>>154574826
>>154574978
>>154575015
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>>154575179

Kill yourselves.

>>154575560
lol, jelly fag that didn't roll a 82 :)

>>154574452
rolling

>>154575549
How soon till the gulag erupts into " wheres my update"?

Complete pyrric victory is the only thing i hope for, that and learning how to spell.

>>154576458
The gulag is 100% on board with all the delayed updates.

whats a joystick mapper that doesnt suck?

>>154576834
For now. :^)

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>get accosted by some pirate scum in a conda while bounty hunting
>motherfucker breaches my canopy
>have to high tail it to a station for repairs
>trying to exit out of supercruise with a broken windshield
>keep overshooting
motherfucker

>>154577124
No, they'll support Frontier to the bitter end , especially supporting things that are anti-fun/bad game design. Anything that has to do with PvP, making money, or "fun" they will shitpost to oblivion and use their multiple accounts to shot down

>>154577241
Just keep the pip in the blue. Supercruise isn't that difficult mang.

>>154577391
I ended up making it in the end, but I'm used to having the timer to go by

>delayed ship transfer wins
When will forumdads learn that facebook timers are not gameplay, no ones going to sit and do missions or read galnet or whatever the fuck they think we'll do when the timers are just long enough that the only thing you can do is alt tab and watch Netflix or something. I'd rather they were 1-24 hours or some shit so at least there'd be some sort of planning or thought behind it rather than it being just long enough to make me stop playing for the night.

With all the talk about muh immurshun and muh realism maybe they'll push for cargo loading and repairs to take several hours too.

>>154577749
Literally paying money to not play the game
>fucking end my pain

>>154577806
But anon, its immersive to pay for the privilege to alt-tab to netflix! You should be thanking Fdev and that furry forumdad with the blinking avatar for this!

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>>154578006
it's actually funny in a bittersweet way that this general is starting to go the same way as /psg/

>>154575549
>literally made it impossible to contest combat expansion
>months to fix
I'm amazed people still bother with powerplay after the giant middle finger to the PP community that was 2.1, it was pretty bad anyway but then they somehow managed to irredeemably break it.

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am I the only one who likes the cable management on the DB series?

>>154577806
Just do what I've done, stop playing the game and buy no more. I have no interest in sitting through loading screens any longer. So I've quit. I'll shitpost about the times I used to play here and there but now I'm just going to discuss Star Citizen or things like that ED/SC blatant rip off game.

>>154578295
>fire extinguisher
Can't they just open the canopy?

>>154578426
fire in microgravity is aids whatever you do

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>dad that guy called "lolm8urmum" killed me again and when i spawned he was waiting for me and now i can't get to my ship!!!!

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https://robertsspaceindustries.com/orgs/GIRL

Why do groups like this even fucking exist, such a waste of a page.

>>154578581
I'm not a science man, wouldn't it just be extinguished as soon as you vented the atmosphere and everyone has Remlok masks.

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>>154578648

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Why do posts like this even fucking exist, such a waste of a post.

>>154578149
The way of /psg/?

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>>154574117
>>154574235
>yfw the polaris is a drone carrier and the big globe on the nose is the antenna for the drone control link

>>154578006
Be glad they haven't tried to prevent you from alt tabing. I remember ever quest did that for the sake of their fucking vision

Relatively new to Elite Dangerous. Making money through doing delivery missions but I can't figure out why some places have "high" paying missions for >100,000 and others are much lower.

I heard that systems with high tech economies are good places to go, but this doesn't always seem to be the case. Is there a way to find these missions and are certain areas better?

>>154578675
yeah, but then you vent your atmosphere

>>154578664
It'll be 90% whiteknighting males and trans guys anyway

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Why do users like this even fucking exist, such a waste of a user.

>>154578664
Dude if I was a girl you have no fucking idea
I would be such a cunt
Asking for in game items and currency
Streaming with only 25% of the screen being the game
Starting up voice chat in games just to start shit
I would reject the greatest pleasures of Allah's paradise to live that life

Daily reminder, children and families will play Star Citizen together, and you're a giant douche if you plan on ganking or pirating their stuff.

>>154578919
System state has an effect as do the factions and economy. Systems quite far out from the bubble like Ceos and Maia offer higher paying ones due to the distance.

>people who feel the need to identify themselves with a sex to get brownie points
>>154578919
gimme your name and I can show you the ropes

>>154579094
We'll have to form our own Armada to stop the dastardly gankers! Don't they realise killing players in an open pvp mode is griefing. Stay safe o7

>>154578919
one of the things that affects mission payouts if your rep with the faction giving the mission. The higher the rep, the more dosh they'll pay you.
Also look what state the system is in, is it Boom, Bust, Famine etc, because that changes what type of missions will appear.

>>154578861
Remote combat drones sounds like something a modern day corvette would have, so obviously CIG won't do that since it would ruin their WWII in space theme. Expect more manned turrets in terrible locations instead.

>>154579115
Thanks. I'll start heading out.

>>154579227
o7

We gotta put these psyco's in their place, I'm with you brother.

>incessant shrieking of toddlers in the background

>>154579343
I really wouldn't, just enjoy doing stuff instead of farming cash until you start getting jaded, at least you'll get some enjoyment for your money.

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>>154579094

Their resistance will only make my penis harder.

>>154578919
Get a refund

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>>154573954
>Best

>>154579406
Right on o7!

Honest question:

If ED were to give you the ability to walk around and interact with your ship in little ways, what would you want to be able to do?

Mine:

>Customize living spaces
>Run appliances like coffee brewers, tea brewers, and microwaves.
>Sleep
>Interact with ship pets. (Like a cat or dog that you can, but don't have to, feed.)

>>154579582
Let me create a space waifu and interact with her to fill the hollow void that is my life.

>>154579582
I would ask for a refund. I came to play a space game not cowadooty.
Its dad like but almost anti dad i like it.

>>154579582
I feel like pets in micro/zero G would be a bad idea.

>>154579582
That has been my opinion since forever, it's not like E:D is designed for FPS like SC is.
It's going to bring about as much content as driving on barren moons.

That is to say: An hours worth, max.

>>154579709
In the books, Elite has a pet Commanders can fly with. It's like a cat with bat wings or something.

>>154579709
I'm sure they can genetically modify space hamsters or some shit.

>>154579324
When you say rep with a faction, do you mean the specific faction in the station that I'm getting the mission from, or that factions allegiance to the Federation or Empire for example.

This is something that has been confusing me, because (at least how I have been playing) it seem that I am never in the same place for long enough to build any serious reputation bonus with them. Does it make sense to try and stay in the same area and boost your reputation?

>>154579415
Honestly I came to this game with the sole intention of making cash. My plan is to buy bigger ships with bigger cargo holds and keep making money. I'm a space trucker. I won't be one of the people I've seen bemoaning the grind. I'm in it for the grind and I'm finding it very relaxing.

>>154579717
It's still more shit to do. Even if it's stupid and meaningless, I'd enjoy it.

>>154579819
Which awful to mediocre book are we talking about here?

>>154579819
Cat with bat wings sounds fucking AWESOME. Also terrifying.

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>>154579582
None of your Second Life autism.

Something like repairs and maintenance, scanning.

Generally everything that is connected to survival elements and gameplay, not immurshun.

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>>154579582
Hey!

>>154579921
Yeah but legs ain't coming till season 3 which will be another fucking $60 for fuck all content.

>>154579913
Thats what we all think until you realise after a certain point the only purpose to hauling becomes broken spreadsheet overlay mode or pre-determined community goals.

Reminder that Ved are actually decent people.

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>>154579516
I was starting to get worried.

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>>154580112

>Reminder that Ved are actually decent people.

>>154580052
>file name
zozzle

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>>154580169
>responding to smarties false flag orgposting

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>>154580331

>assertive women

I finished the Elite Reclamation book that all the forumdads masturbate to today. Ask me anything.

>>154580075
That's a lot of games to be fair. I mean there are a ton of games these days with levelling systems which provide increasingly small returns the more you play. MMO's and RPG's. Shooters have gone to town with it in recent years. But people keep playing through that same gameplay loop.

Eventually you get bored and move onto the next game.

>>154580452
Is it racist?

>>154580452
Is it worth the paper it's printed on or would it have been better served as toilet paper?

>>154580505
Theres a space mexican who speaks like speedy gonzales so kind of.

>>154580524
I got the ebook so it would be awful toilet paper. It was ok, it would have been good if the protagonist wasn't an unlikeable borderline mary sue who's good at everything, every character but her was more likeable and realistic and there wasn't even a decent attempt at making her a villain protagonist.

2.6 aka playable AC when

>>154580905
When you buy more ships!

>>154580934
new sale when?

>>154579582
Space legs update would come with removing reboot/repair option and afm's

now we have to sit through 40 minutes of a 2 minute long repeated repair animation for each module that needs repaired

>>154581015
Don't worry, soon we'll have a vote to give AFMs and Reboot/Repair a 30 minute timer because immershun and we can just do other things!

>/v/ casuals actually want instant teleport travel

A few questions about SC:
1. is there drone combat?
2. why are most ships multi crew and will I be able to man them with ai?
3. is there any way I can download a demo or something to see if my pc can even handle it?
4. I am confused about the fps features, can I customize my character in any form and what about weapons/loadouts?

>>154581503
>forumdads actually post on /edg/

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>>154579913
The specific faction in a station. But having a high rep with the superpower the system faction is aligned with makes it easier to gain rep with them.
If youre mainly doing missions then yes stay in the area and get cosy with a faction. Some have influence in nearby systems so keep an eye out for that.

>I won't be one of the people I've seen bemoaning the grind.
Once you realise how much multilayered grind the game is built on you will. Enjoy it while you can, because even if you enjoy the grind it will get to you. Its why /edg/ couldnt keep its threads alive on its own, anons play for a while then get bored of the grind. After a bit the itch for space games returns or a new patch is released and they come back.
Its why the whole necron thing started

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Gladiator without chair lift when?

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Should I even try for Grade 5 Jump Range mods? This was my Grade 4.

>>154581503
>Retard can't even get the board right in his shitposting

>>154581539
no
maybe
no but there are free flight occasionally (i/e demo period)
yes

>>154581610
Hopefully soon(tm)

>>154581902
Do you have a screenshot of the engineer result screen?

>>154581539
no
you can hire NPCs someday
they sometimes have play for free weekends, check around citizencon in october
you can have different armor suits and weapons now. when star marine comes out soon you will have loadouts I assume. And grenades and stuf like that

>>154581941
Nope

>>154582004
How much in the blue was the FSD mass optimal thing bar?

>>154581923
>implying there is a difference

>>154582004
>>154582054
Outfitting screen, select component, select modification. It displays what you have.

a class 4 fsd upgrade is something like 30-40% while a class 5 is 40-50% (and with a 1 in 1000 luck you can get 56%)

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>>154581539

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/feature-list

List of features available right now.

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>>154581539
I'll see if I can help:
1. Unknown. There are drones guaranteed, but the gameplay regarding them hasn't been worked out. Repair drones are the only ones that are currently in the game with reduced functionality to what they will be. Strapping guns to them and sending them out to remotely secure your ship out of sanctioned landing zones isn't hard to see, but again, we just don't know what they want to do with them in full.

2. You should be able to man them with AI crewman who will be paid out of your pocket. They're considering how they want multiplayer to work and one of the options is jump-in jump-out, where they take over one of your AI crewmen. Again, the gameplay elements aren't nailed down, but that's what they've talked about.

3. Unfortunately, no. The game in it's current form is as close to a demo as we're going to get, but the optimization is absolute garbage, as you'd expect from a pre-alpha. I'm trying to think of a good way to test whether or not you can run it without downloading the entire thing and booting it up yourself, but I don't know what the metrics are these days.

4. They want to add the near-full gamut of customization options with the next patch, 2.6. They've recently talked about whether they want to go full Morrowind with it where you can mix and match left and right arms, left and right legs, chests, helmets, and suits when you're wearing space protection, or if they want to limit it a little to just arms, legs, chests, helmets, and the suit underneath them "for performance reasons." So we'll see what they go for. Personally, I'm hoping for the full Morrowind treatment.

I just started Elite and received a mission to dock at Cleve Hub for a 10,000 Cr reward, but when I select the station, I dont have the option to request docking. Help pls

>>154582582
You need to select it in the contacts tab

>>154581902
jump range is the only thing holding me back from enjoying this game, with 90% of the ships having no range and taking forever to get anywhere (unless you use RNGineers) it gets old quick.

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>>154579406
To offer the perspective of a psychologist and anecdotal evidence:

Some people brains are chemically and structurally different to that of the majority of people. These people have a harder time to learn empathy and socially advantageous behavior. Some are fully unable to understand it, we frame them as psychopaths. Important to learn here is the difference from learning and understanding empathy.

Now to my anecdote. I have been playing a certain game with friends and a great community for years. There were always some troublemakers and some of them even streamed, had social media and were active on youtube. They would offer more information than it is good for them, but people are naive. So when the community went downhill I left and so did most of my friends. A couple of years later, the servers were continued to run by a third party, the troublemaker is still playing and cheating and using every tool there is to beat and harass the losers. I saw that on his social media he was connected and friends with Ku- Klux- Clan members, and Neo- party. It is incredibly difficult for guys like him to learn the meaning of love. Hate is their general tendency. It is in human nature and for some reason, which I would like to learn about, it was advantageous for our race.

>>154582694
>Jump range

B-but scale! The galaxy has be giant and you need to feel like it takes months of real time to traverse it!

>>154582572
Best ships best hud.

>>154582694
We almost got instant ship transfer to remove the tedium of shitty jump range but forumdads voted for delayed transfer because muh immurshun and muh scale

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>>154582054
>>154582219
here you go

>>154582870
Go for rank 5, to get the hyperspace data just sit outside a busy starport or famine system aid signal source with a wake scanner

>>154582870
Yeah, a level 5 will definitely be an improvement. Will also probably consume more power and be slightly heavier, but you'll get more range.

>>154582790
at least you can move all your ships with a button press. better than supercruising all the way to your stations five times

..you can move more than one ship at a time, right?

>>154583004
>More than one

We don't know. All we know for certain is that you can at least move one ship and it's going to take 2 hours just to get somewhere significant.

>>154582752
I really do love the Aegis HUDs. The Sabre, Vanguard, Gladius, and Retaliator are brilliant, too. The Retaliator kind of goes disco-room when you get into the pilot's seat, though. Some kind of issue with lighting and shaders, but I hope they fix it soon. It's hard to fly the ship with epileptic lights going on.

>>154582790
why even have an mmo with different ships if you can teleport the slowest ships instantly

stop bitching about waiting a few minutes. Either play with another ship or do something else you NEET blob

>>154583004
No clue, we still have to pay to not be able to play the game

>>154582790
Instant transfer was never going to be a thing. Frontier just pretended it was to distract people from all the other crippling issues plaguing this game.

>>154583078
The HUDs are pretty cool, but for some reason the MFDs are all set up in a way that makes them unreadable due to either size or placement.

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>>154583083
>NEET
>wanting to save time

>>154581902
Im jelly as fuck.

Speaking of the fdl. Are pa's any good on it? Ive been dickin around with huge beam 4 multis and 2 beams a huge multi+ 2medium multi. Would two medium pa's be funtime with bounty hunting or does the ai just constantly dodge them like they did cannons a year ago?

>>154582970
>>154582870
Best places to get items I've found:
Arsenic: Deciat 4 surface, 2.1% arsenic black outcroppings and metallic asteroids but has decent gravity so it's easy to drive on.
Chemical Manipulators: Anarchy system in war state, look for combat aftermath or "Seeking Weapons" point of interest, there's 3 type-9s in there and one's bound to have some chemical manipulators, once killed all 3, exit to main menu and return, re-kill the type-9s until you have enough chemical manipulators.
Datamined Wake Echos: famine system at a distribution center, bring a 4km wake scanner and sit where the 6-8 sidewinders jump away every 2 minutes. I have 100+ datamined wake echos thanks to this so I'll never need to do this ever again.

>>154582681
Thank you

>>154583326
You don't even need to look for combat aftermaths or seeking weapons in anarchy systems, you can literally just camp the nav beacon for a few minutes and have all the Chemical materials you'll ever need

>>154583083
>why even have an mmo with different ships if you can teleport the slowest ships instantly

Jump range has never been a part of making a ship unique.

The largest part of any ship is how it flys (Thrusters,) Hardpoint placement, and sounds.

Sucky jump range is just that: sucky. It adds nothing.

>>154583292
>NEET
>not caring for every microsecond spent
>not being more stressed out than the most busy single parent, just because you're trying to allocate as much time as possible before your money runs out
>not living the dream as hard as possible before you inevitably become wage slave #53240000001 or die of starvation

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>>154582706

No one to tell you're wrong if there is no one left.

If you want to see behavior in an appropiately primative setting go play a game called lifeweb. Its a learning experience for sure.

>>154583321
I have 4 medium burst (Gimbaled) and the huge has a PA.

Everything dies.

I kinda want to switch to a huge multicannon when I get the chance, though. Mostly for fun. PA is a monster of a weapon.

>>154583207
Yeah, you've got to use the Z-(WASD) commands to make them readable, which you can do quickly enough for usual flight, but when you need the screens to be readable in combat it's certainly less than ideal.

Haven't play ED.

Is that delay arbitrary, or is it there because an NPC is physically flying your ship to destination, and therefore susceptible to player interdiction?

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>>154583494
>tfw wageslave
>tfw no social life or gf so plenty of disposable income
>tfw no time to use all the shit I can buy

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>>154583552
>>154583321
I now use this on my fdl's main gun, first roll too.

>>154583552
Its a good sound and oddly no spin up time on the huge multi. Seems to be great at killing powerplants.

>>154583620
Yeah, it's just stupid. Not being able to see crucial information at a glance is just bad design. At least they are aware of it and working on a better implementation.
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/343796/addressing-hud-mfd-feedback/p1

>>154583723
Arbitrary for "immersion" purposes

>>154583723
Arbitrary.

They're supposed to be brought to the destination by a bulk freighter. Bulk freighters aren't in the game yet.

>>154583723
The reason ia arbitrary. The same reason you cant give anyone credits "because muh gold farmer" despite this game beig a huge wall to gold farming and sothis being a thing.

>>154583902
Big ships should be a priority tbqh, even if we can't fly them for another few seasons simply having massive bulk freighters flying around and frigates/cruisers/carriers in CZs add a nice bit of variety to the game and give us something other than ww2 dogfighting. As well as small stations and shit (which are thankfully coming in 2.2) to fight over and have more variety for missions with. Its not much but I'd rather have that than powerplay and engineers.

CZs should feel like actual fleet battles, not random hairballs over nothing

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Trying to scoop up cargo manually and it never seemed to get into the bay so I got some limpets to do it for me. Then I decided to see where the cargo bay hatch is anyways and realized the fuck-huge gun directly in front of the cargo hatch was the problem.

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>>154584268

>>154583864
I wonder if changing the pilot's perspective would easily fix the issues? Though I'm all for fixing it enitrely

>>154582706
fascinating

>>154584197
Czs shouldnt exist. Its one party trying to coop anothers base. Why isnt this shit happening at the stations? Why is it some random point outside?

Same with checkpoints. What the fuck are they?

>>154585013
>What the fuck are they

Absolutely nothing. They're bullshit

>See a checkpoint one time
>Think I'm going to see some cool shit when I drop into it
>It's just some faggot Feds floating in circles doing nothing

VISION

>>154585013
Thats what I was trying to say, CZs should be over installations or fleets trying to buy time to jump or supply convoys or literally anything , the current system is just retarded and I really hope part of adding installations in 2.2 means we get actual decent CZs and checkpoints.

The entire war system needs an overhaul really, you should sign up for a faction and then be part of that war where ever you are in the system with loads of objectives and shifting locations to fight at.

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I am one of those faggots with the specs question, plz no bully

I want to play SC on max settings, will my current rig do the trick or do I need to upgrade? Talking about the current build(s) of the game not what is expected in a few years.

i7, 3700 mhz
GF 1070, 8GB
32GB DDR3, 2400 mhz


I will upgrade to a newer processor and a mobo that supports DDR4, but prolly at the end of next year.

>>154585667
You will have the same fps as everyone else in the current builds save for the really potato machines

>>154585667
>cant afford 1080

>>154585013
Planets do provide a nice visual backdrop, but there should at least be some kind of building outpost they are fighting around. I don't see why they can't insert the CQC map assets.

Of course the best would be to have the fighting outside a station and make it inaccessible to dock. But this is just one more huge obvious problem in a game full of problems. I doubt it will ever get addressed.

>>154585873
>I don't see why they can't insert the CQC map assets
They're adding them with 2.2, maybe with CZs centred on them, probably not.

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>>154583776
I'm almost tempted at buying the season pass. But I'm not sure if I'll regret the purchase tomorrow.

Please redpill me before I see more of the vision

I just want my Anaconda to have those sweet-ass Engineer multi-cannons on every hardpoint

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>>154585360
>>154585013
Would love it if the game ran a small simulation of the wars/civil wars with set goals.

Like claim this resource extraction site, station/outpost, capture this land colony, capture this world.

Bulk freighters could go into that, like "capture/destroy these bulk freighters" or fuel tankers or command centers (frigate sized capship) or carriers (frigate-destroyer sized, mobile base)

Like say, the game decides that faction A is running low on fuel, so some fuel tanker capships are spawned and start travelling to whatever strongpoint in the system is for faction A. If faction B manages to destroy or capture the tankers, faction A will "lose" this engagement and that'll count against it in determining the winner of the war.

Would love bulk freighters as a moving point of interest in systems, like pirate bases that are bulk freighters hidden in asteroid fields or a bulk freighter that moves between DISTANT systems every 5 minutes, dock with it and it'll take you there. Or how about a refueling tanker parked nav beacons, selling fuel at 10x the price in a station but you get the convenience of not having to go to the station.

>>154586363
>Please redpill me before I see more of the vision
Horizons doesn't actually fix the core gameplay loop.
Although planetary assault missions can be some of the most fun content in the game if you do them purely in SRV

>>154586407
Thats my dream for how wars work as well. Especially if it was integrated into the mission and naval rank system.

Imagine taking a mission to assault a convoy with an NPC task force actually flying as wing mates. Imagine slowly taking and holding territory that matters as part of something that feels like an actual navy. It could slowly build up and escalate ending with assaulting an enemy station with a full fleet or helping to rout an actually threatening capital ship from a system forcing the enemy to flee with it. Some of these battles could take a while too with major battles being something that might take a day but ebb and wane in intensity.

Of course non of this will ever happen but I can dream. At least the new cod will give me a brief taste of space battles that feel like they matter for the 9 hours the campaign will last.

>>154586407
That cargo ship looks cool.

>>154586667
>those bursts of flame that erupt in front of and behind the ship with no source whatsoever

>>154587068
Exactly. The cockpit should fly off in a forward direction and then explode. The engine nacelles too I guess.

>>154586363
Horizon content isn't terrible, and SRV driving can be fun and different every once in a while. The Engineer upgrades are really nice though, almost pay to win level except you still have to grind the materials.

>>154587206
>heat meta
>not p2w

>>154587283
>>154587206
Pay2Grind2Win

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>>154578861
How bout them drone launchers.

>>154587563
I'd be mad if it wasn't for the fact it wasn't even intentional, Fdev are just bad at balancing, literally the only dev to make p2w through incompetence.

>>154582694
or, you know, get a diamondback explorer

>>154588114
I sure do love bulk hauling in my stripped out DBX

>>154581005
Anniversary/Citizencon obviously

>>154588235
This

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>>154587884
Fuck it, more Carrack.

So what engineer upgrades do I get on a courier to make the most of its shields?

I've just recently bought horizons so I'm assuming I've got a huge grind ahead of me.

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>>154588453
MORE!

>>154588479
Lots of heavy duty or resistance augmented shield boosters and either biweaves with low power shields or a reinforced regular shield.
Use http://inara.cz/galaxy-engineers to make the grind less painful

>>154587884

>basically a Glaive on each wing

>>154585789
>implying there was a 1080 when I bought the 1070

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>>154588659
Fuck you, now I can't unsee it.

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>>154588624
This fan-made one is nice.

>>154588658
thanks anon, I guess i'll report back in a month

>>154586407
>>154586975
looks cool, but it always bothers me there's no cover over the containers. c'mon some extendable plating is not that hard to do.

>>154587283
What is the heat meta? Does it work pve?

>>154587884
>>154588453
>>154588624
I really hope they'll make turrets more useful

>>154588889
Spam thermal shock/thermal cascade modded weapons and watch as your opponent reaches 500%+ heat and has all of their modules melt within seconds.

why is the carrack so ugly, fuck :(

>>154589071
Because RSI can't design ships

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>>154589071
It's ok at carefully placed angles

Like a selfie whore

>>154589071
I find it pretty cool

>>154589071
>>154589132
Honest question, what's a good looking ship to you guys?

with pictures please

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>>154589278

>>154589278
was about to ask this too
share it

>>154589278
I feel like this is a trick question.

I'm a fan of practical yet refined and sleek looking designs. Janky looking ships like the Carrack don't appeal to me.

>>154589381
>posts ugliest ship in the game

Oh, I guess that explains it, shit taste.

>>154589465
but that's not the Redeemer

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>>154589463

>>154587206
>Horizon content isn't terrible

RNgineers is terrible. Driving on the surface of a planet is pointless and it's also not enjoyable. I would 100% recommend people stay away from Horizons

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>>154589278
>>154589398
Not even trolling. Objectively the best looking ship, sadly the small, but vocal minority of autists managed to tarnish its name, because of some imaginary slights during the competition.

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>>154589278
There's at least one person here who will hate every single design the game's put forth, but I feel like there's enough variety that damn near every ship will have at least one fan of how it looks. The Mustang has the least detractors on looks, but the most on mechanics due to the janky way they had to set up the engines in order for the ship to even fly at all. The Redeemer, meanwhile, is a memeship that's not as bad as people like to pretend it is. Most are just salty their own pet ship didn't get in, especially those Scimitar folks.

Star Citizen's really a game of choosing which ship you like and getting the maximum performance out of it.

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>>154589278
Something with a distinct shape and pleasing angles.

Look how there is various acute angles along the ship from the thruster to the cockpit rather then being one solid line (i.e curved or 'aerodynamic')

>>154589952
I don't hate every ship, I just don't like the Carrack

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>>154589278

Something that doesn't just look like a fighter jet IIIN SPAAACE

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>>154590005
Your thoughts on this fan made version of ED's imperial courier?

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>>154589952
>leaving out the weedstation yet again

>>154589952
I really like the look of the Retaliator.
I'm just afraid it will not be viable ingame for someone who want to do a bit of everything

>>154590239
it would be nice if not for the fact that it's Bee-Drill in spaceship form.

those 'needles' looks pretty shit.

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>>154589952
As a Scimitar fan, you're totally right. I like the look of the Redeemer, but I shitpost it because I'm still salty.

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>>154589278
pew pew

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>>154589952
I can't say I really like any ship from TNGS, but there's only one ship that I dislike more than the Redeemer, I wouldn't mind if they do rework it but I feel like the parts I dislike the most are set in stone, in particular the round "shield generators"

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>>154590278
Mah nigga!

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>>154589278
BEST

>>154590239
Not imperial/10

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>>154588887
>no cover over the containers
There doesn't have to be. It's a cargo transporter not a battleship.

What possible reason is there to cover them up? Pirates won't be able to loot them if they get blown up.

The containers are sturdy enough to endure transport, I'm sure.

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>>154590010
Then I wasn't talking about you, clearly.
What I mostly meant, though, was that each ship will have at least one person who hates it. But we do have people in here who will claim there's not a ship design in the game out of a few dozen that they like.

>>154590278
It's a bit big for that particular chart. I didn't make it, though. The Endeavor looks like it'll be a blast, and the gameplay opportunities make me a bit giddy.

>>154590284
Man, yeah, the Retaliator should've been so good. All they needed to do was give it pilot-slaved guns like Wing Commander's Broadsword. Poor thing won't be good to fly without it.

>>154590442
They all frustrated me, too. None of them looked like they were built by the same company they were supposed to be, save the Brutus, and the one you posted was particularly bad. We might disagree over which ship looked the most promising, I personally think the Brutus deserved a better chance, especially given CIG's track record with Drake, but the Redeemer is definitely not as bad as it's made out to be.

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BEST
E
S
T

dude space weed lmao

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>>154589278
[LOAD]

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>>154589278
best ship right here

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Anyone know what studio the next AtV will be at? Kinda hoping we'll finally see some star marine or the new website..

>>154587973
We must convince them to try to make a p2w model now. See how badly they can fuck it up. Might end up with a great game or at least something so horrifying that devs will look at it and say " at least im not ftroop".

>>154590727
>The containers are sturdy enough to endure transport, I'm sure.

...

metal containers

in space

sturdy

no armour
no shield
no protection

>asteroids
>micro meteorites
>sun storms
>all kinds radiation
>billions of grains of space dust
>debris

...

>DUDE METAL CONTAINERS IN SPACE WITH NO PROTECTION LMAO

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>>154590915

>>154590727
Depends on the universe really, exposed cargo makes sense for universes with safer busy space lanes where covering doesn't really matter as theres no real risk of being attacked.

>>154590984
Austin

>>154590984
Next ATV is in Austin, according to ATV 3.6.

>>154589737
is that a computer mouse from deus ex

>>154591053
The ships have shields. They extend to the containers too.

>>154591185
>>154591216

Yall know what they are doing there?

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>>154591496
What I posted in the other thread

>>154591442
and when the shields fail?

>>154591557
link?

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>>154591496
It's where our Lord and Savior Tony Zurovec lives.

>>154591496
According to CIG's webpage:
"The team at Cloud Imperium Games TExas’ Austin studio (Bee Cave, Texas) is responsible for making the Star Citizen persistent universe a reality! From character artists to engineers, CIG ATX is a creative hotspot tasked with making an entirely new kind of game. The crack DevOps team is also located in Austin, keeping servers running and building out the infrastructure that will be needed to make Star Citizen sing."

>>154591609
Well, your freighter's probably fucked anyway without escorts. You won't be doing much fast traveling with your shields fucked.

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>>154589278

>>154591609
If you're not being attacked, why would they fail, and if you are being attacked, you have bigger problems.

>>154591638

>>154540121

>>154591770
>If you're not being attacked, why would they fail

Why does any technology fail?

>>154591639
I honestly don't get why everyone got so worked up over the last segment with him, he literally just repeated the same shit from 2 years ago with again nothing to show for it

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>>154591912
Do you understand the context of the conversation? It's a fucking video game.

Im glad these two generals are merged. With as shitty as korean grindfest turned out to be and no mns buy...star citizen gives me a small amountof hope.


As bad as korean grindfest is even that cowadooty trailer in space gives me a flutter of hope.

>>154592343
Not even him but "its a videogame" is literally the stupidest argument when it comes to design.

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>>154592462
So you want to play a video game where parts on your ship randomly fail for no reason?

>>154592536
No, I want my ship designed so it looks like it can withstand things like that, they're designing for a fictional world.

>>154592623
The mass of sheilding cargo containers from damage physically (i.e rather than backup/emergency shielding) would have them retardedly inefficient.

Not that anon, and this is an incredibly autistic argument for you to be making, by the way.

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Exciting and engaging gameplay.
I sure fucking love wasting 40 seconds of my life for no apparent reason.

>>154592803
How is it autistic to say that something should look like its built to fit the world its in and not just solely display gameplay features? I don't care about the cargo containers, I just think "its a video game" is a shit argument used to justify actual bad design work and to force devs to abandon internal consistency for pandering.

>>154592536
yes I would, makes it realistic for the sake of fidelity, you know

>>154592803
>would have them retardedly inefficient

but would be a necessity considering what they are exposed to

just because you want to look at them sticking out is not a reason enough to forgo realism

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>>154592980
I have no idea where you're getting a lack of internal consistency from, nor how a space-freighter that isn't covered in armor or some shit to protect a million tons of grain is somehow not built to fit the world.

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RETARDED WEAK DESIGN NO DEFENCE FOR CONTAINERS REEEE

>>154593141
Learn to fucking read, I literally said I don't care about the cargo containers, I'm just saying "its a videogame" is a non-argument.

>>154593141
>posting a ship that LITERALLY HAS A FUCKHUGE METAL SHIELD PROTECTING THE CREW COMPARTMENT AND STORAGE AREAS

You are proving my point senpai

>>154591639
the 10 million NPCs, Tony

where are you hiding them?

>>154593128
>but would be a necessity considering what they are exposed to

Not in a world that has extremely reliable energy shielding technology that would be a hard requirement for FTL or anywhere approaching travel.

Making your ship about 100 times heavier for no reason isn't logical.

>>154592980
>>154593128
If shields are enough to protect cargo containers from the elements of space, having them exposed like that seems incredibly realistic to me.

Even shield redundancy would be perfectly acceptable if the risk of shield failure is small.

>>154593230
>people walk on ships at space without protection
>make sense that they should do the same in space

literally you right now

>>154593356
How is that relevant to me saying internal consistency is important and that I don't care about the cargo containers?

>>154593271
>extremely reliable

Everything breaks down. The containers can suffer a thousand and one damages from space and different space phenomena even at dock, no need to warp.

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who says the cargo containers themselves can't stop solar radiation n shit?

>>154593356
Bullshit. No company would take such risks and no insurance company would cover it.

>b-but it's heavier

It's fucking space, you gain a bit of mass, that's it. It is nothing compared to the chance of losing a gazzilion dollars worth of cargo, even if the chance is small.

Use your fucking brain, it's not there to balance your ass.

>>154593593
I said.

>>154593459
Sorry, that was mostly in response to the other guy, forgot I tagged you.

But I don't get what you're saying about internal consistency. What exactly is inconsistent?

>>154593571
Shields break down, sure.

If shields break at FTL speeds, your ship would immediately disintegrate and/or have a spec of space dust rip a bus sized hole through your entire hull.

So no, I would say they're both extremely reliable and with many backup systems, to the point at which you're basically arguing that civillian airline passengers should be issued parachutes. Except worse than that, really.

>>154593712
are you a future space scientist?

>>154593593
Because if they could battleships and fighters would have cargo container armour ffs. You see that anywhere?

>>154593705
>It's fucking space, you gain a bit of mass, that's it. It is nothing compared to the chance of losing a gazzilion dollars worth of cargo, even if the chance is small.


You're so fucking stupid it hurts

>>154593723
I'm saying your original argument that its a videogame and it isn't a gameplay feature so it doesn't matter was bad and you should argue that it makes sense within the games lore/design.

Similar to how cockpits in many games will have things like fire extinguishers or emergency repair kits we'll never actually use but add to the design and make sense from a design standpoint.

>>154593829
No. But im older than you, kid, so my opinion is superior.

>>154591802
Thanks senpai, needed that gif

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>>154593705
First, it's not just about the mass. The way Hulls are built mean that they collapse easy for storage and they're easy to load up quickly and efficiently.

Second, of course they would, cargo ships in real life get lost all the time and they hold more than the Hull E ever would.

Is 17 Draconis still the best place to rank up Fed?

>>154593705
>'s fucking SEA, you gain a bit of mass, that's it. It is nothing compared to the chance of losing a gazzilion dollars worth of cargo, even if the chance is small.
Got it!

>>154593836
stopping some radiation is the same as stopping bullets and missiles? lol

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>>154593926
Nice argument bro! I like how people always start insulting when they lose and have no logic left to back them up.

I consider that your concession of the argument and accept it. Exposed cargo containers in space are stupid. I am glad we agree.

>>154594076
Yup

>>154594178
I already presented arguments, as did other anons.

You're not listening, so why bother talking down to your level?

>It totally wouldn't make any kind of difference to fuel efficiency or anything to cover a 400 meter long ship in armor that in most cases won't be used because we have shielding systems, nah.

Please.

>>154594178
...you shit post the same exact way in like three different /vg/ threads, goddamn.

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>>154594338
>>154594178

You guys

>>154594338
>covering the containers in retractable futuristic plastic will add insurmountable problems to mass and fuel

Mate, stop posting, it's getting ridiculous. Not even the dude you were talking to.

Are you niggers still arguing about metal bawkses?

>>154594527
if its futuristic plastic why can't the containers just be made of it?

>Not even the dude you were talking to.

uh huh.

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>>154594486
>space sims will never have non-autistic fanbases

>>154590752
>Man, yeah, the Retaliator should've been so good
It'll always be best ship in my heart

>>154594623
>if its futuristic plastic why can't the containers just be made of it?


???? how the fuck should I know

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>>154594650

Its beautiful, if we're ever needed to make the first autismfort on mars, they know where to find us.

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>>154594650
Eh, there are still good people floating around. It's just these threads have attracted really weirdly dedicated and obsessed shitposters that take whatever they can and make it the least fun thing to discuss and argue about that you can imagine.

>>154594650
>>154594608
>>154594486

You know posting "This discussion is autistic, I'm so much superior to you" isn't actually any more productive, goys.

If you want to talk about something else, talk about it. Don't complain about other discussions.

I am aware of the irony

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>>154594527
The space shuttle Challenger cockpit window was hit by a paint fleck with a mass of under 0.1 grams at orbital velocity, that paint fleck had more kinetic energy than a .50 cal BMG round.

futuristic plastic wrap isn't going to do nothing for that. It's space magic shields or several thousand tons of armor.

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>>154594880
Fine then faggot.

Do you goyim want to see the old star marine HUD return? Or are you happy its gone.

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>>154594880
You are like little baby
Watch this

>>154594906
So that means any ship in Star Citizen will literally get torn apart at jump speed!

GAME CANCELLED! 0/10 TOO SHIT TO PLAY, etc

>>154574917
23rd of this month
8th of next month
8th of next month

>>154595169
BTFO

THREAD OVER

>>154595169
Not with shields :)

>>154574917
>>154595224
what don't even know what the polaris is or how it looks like...

>>154595372
It's a spaceship
It looks like a big plane

>>154595224
Can I borrow your crystal ball?

>>154595029
I'm happy whatever the fuck that rainmeter thing on the bottom right is managed to fuck off, but we still do need most of the components of it to make a return: especially fuel and oxygen.

>>154595548
>a big plane
For you?

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>>154596242

>delayed shit transfer

lel.
They're going to overdo it so fucking badly. The poll was either "instant or 100 minutes" so now the feature will be utterly useless if it takes that fucking long.

Even with a 10 ly range you can cross the bubble in like 20 minutes.

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>>154596221

The rainmeter thing is the health indicator, but you are right I would enjoy it if we kept the one we have now.

Also note the three 'tabs' at the top: Tactical, Medical, Overview.

I would love it if there was a dedicated medical hud and such.

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>your PMC org will never escort high-ranking executives for reputable weapons manufacturers to backwater planets to acquire xeno technology for above-top-secret and illegal bioweapons research to use against the vanduul and if necessary any other alien threats

>>154596718
I imagine the Medical HUD will be attached to the medical scanning device we'll get. I'll never fucking go anywhere without one of those bastards once they're in, I've played too much Space Station 13 to not be attached to as much equipment as possible.

>>154595224
>23rd of this month
PROOOFS?

>>154596798
the fuck is this? sauce? is that nigga remote controlling the xenomorphs?

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>>154596916

As a fellow spessman I can relate, but I don't entirely agree.

Just give me electrical gloves and I'll destroy the station.

>>154596670

>ask for a ship transfer
>a fucking wheel comes up
>spins
>that will be 1000000 credits to transfer pls
>you can spend your rep at the station to reroll
>accept
>slider bounces back and forth
>it will take 50 minutes to transfer ship
>got an ok roll this time...

Screencap this.

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>>154597280
Nothing personal, kid.

*sneaks behind you*
*shoots with assimilated borg lasers*

>>154597339
Clearly we took different paths. I was a medic and a security officer, mainly. Both were jobs that were seriously underappreciated. Enjoyed Engineering, too, though the fucking goddamn solar panels always pissed me off. Every time I'd finish wiring the damn things it was time to evacuate. Kept me mostly safe, though.

You die a lot as a nurse. People like stoving your head in and stealing your medical supplies while you're just trying to stabilize a patient that took plasma burns. Arguably, the clown is more infuriating as a first responder than a security officer.

While I don't want something as... Involved, shall we say, as Space Station 13 for Star Citizen, I hope they take some inspiration from it for the miscellaneous jobs you can do.

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>>154598064

I was usually in robotics making mechs and giving them to people who were... under-qualified.

But I do agree, SC's capital ships look especially nice with the engineering and medical roles we've heard a little bit about.

Can't wait to be a kindergarden teacher for a bunch of manchildren.

>>154597280
>https://www.artstation.com/artwork/qQvKD

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>>154598343
HOLY FUCKING SHIT that site is amazing. Thanks anon senpai.

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>>154598889
It's amazing what an art sight can offer when they have professional standards.

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>>154594730

>it takes balls to give into dads whining and rig a poll with shitty choices

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>>154599046
Dude.... I'm gonna spend hours downloading amazing pics

>>154599226
Something tells me if the poll went the other way he wouldn't be saying that