/rlg/ - Roguelike General

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>>153972000
>tummy

When should I start training Necromancy for my SpEn of Gozag? I recently did my first 3 rune with a FoFi and now I wanna go for more runes. I would've done kiku, but I found a book store on d:6 with every necromancy spell I would ever want, so I figured I might as well just go Gozag instead so I can afford the books sooner and also get all the other benefits.

Also is Darkness worth the spell levels?

>>153972505
>Is having less shit in my LoS when the postgame consists of shit that kills you by being in LoS worth it?

>>153972663
>I literally can't answer a question without being a cunt about it
>I literally can't stop sucking dicks
-you

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>>153972000
Braise Zin and his holy trips.

>>153972505
Darkness is pretty good, but its annoying as fuck to use. Necromancy is always good to pickup. At the very least, you can pickup regen..

How in the fuck do you read the json files for cataclysm dda?

I just want to know what buildings a specific gun spawns in

>>153972914
Just grep the gun's ID in the mapgen jsons.

>>153972505
>gozag
>necromancy
but why

>>153973065
>why would i ever go kiku when yred does the same thing

>>153973065
muh zombies

>>153973065
I thought that was the natural course of things with SpEn. What are you supposed to do when hexes stop working?

>>153973254
run away from everything and ninja runes/the orb

>>153973254
Other stuff. Losing out of simulacrum is big game, but it isn't as bad as the other guy makes it out. You still have access to d-chan and haunt, which are big game.

>>153973154
>>153973186
>>153973254
The issue he's bringing up, I think, is that Gozag turns corpses to gold, while Necromancy (mostly) turns corpses into combat power. You can't have both.

>>153973254
necromancy with notgozag is okay

but necromancy with no corpses is kind of missing the point

>>153973030
u wot m8

>>153973594
>>153973584
Amazing. For some reason I didn't even think of the fact that I had no corpses. L o l

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>>153973440
I fucking hate the idea behind simulacrum so much.
>best offensive necromancy spell is just snowmen
>they dissipate on their own after a while
>same for regular zombies/skellies that are almost not even worth using
I mean, holy shit, Yred might be worse cause even with no piety restrictions he's still meh in extended, but at least he provides a pleasurable necromancer experience.

>>153973584
the point i was bringing up is that this is such a small part of necromancy's power as to be irrelevant

>>153973926
necromancy is a support school

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>>153974045
*stabs in soul*
I SAID BACK THE FUCK OFF?!

Is there any unofficial update on DoomRL? I hate how it's been completely abandoned in favor of that shitty Alien Breed wannabe.

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>>153973739
Gotta get a grep.

>>153973030
>that moment when your unixbeard is so long and unkempt that your discussions read like gibberish

>>153974384
Anon they posted a new website for jupiter hell not too long ago with screenshots and everything.

>>153974345
*prays to zin and turns you into a pillar of salt* pshh... nothing personnel... kid

>>153974404
I downloaded grepWin but I can't figure out how to use it apparently

In your pic you searched for 9mm and found pizza parlor? what does that even mean

>how necromancy should be
>good luck i'm behind 7000 skeletons + corpse explosion

>how necromancy is in crawl
>dude interesting and tactical lmao

>>153974527
I've seen it, doesn't look like anything special from the screenshots. Would rather have new content for DoomRL.

>>153974947
the phrase "9mm" is in mapgen/pizza_parlor.json

meaning it spawns in pizza parlors

>>153975114
Well, considering that the devs have moved on to making a new title, you might want to hope for something more realistic.

>>153974947
No idea how grepWin works, you'd have to read the manual. It probably works the same as grep, but I cba to explain CLI folder navigation.
If you want I can search a few guns and post my scrollback to a pastebin.
Basically this >>153975129

>>153975129
So the only place that spawns 9mm bullets is pizza parlor? that doesn't seem right

>>153975102
crawl necro is more interesting than undead spam (which is why nobody plays yred)

>>153973926
Undead that didn't time out was fucking busted. Have you ever played with them when they didn't?

>>153975374
A lot of places spawn item groups, for example, the "house" itemgroup (can't recall ID, its the normal chance for gun spawn in a house) includes pistols and rarely SMGs Shotguns and rifles iirc.

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How do I evangelize with Zin properly?

Already pumping invocations.

>>153975612
make sure your dude is relatively buff so you don't get martyred

>>153975102
Flesh golem/body horror necromancers are more interesting thematically. Skeletons have been done /to death/.

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>>153975501
I still do.

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>>153975585
I just want to know where m14 ebr spawns because I've been looking for it for two in games years

I'm too dumb to navigate the source code and do computer stuff

I don't deserve it

>>153975668
I mean real zombos for when you have a real god.

>>153975665
>tfw no twisted ressurection spell available to players

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>>153975765
Gun basements and gun stores.

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>>153975765
Also note that it's quite rare in its item group (which is also fairly large).
Number is the relative weight (likeliness to spawn, lower numbers are lower chances).

>>153976540
>>153976754
I feel like a faggot for not figuring out how to do it myself, thanks for helping me out anon

dead thread

someone play something dumb on rlgrobin

do a DECK of nemelex

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wew

>>153978259
grat

>>153978179
challenge accepted
starting shortly at cxc

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>>153978179
goddamnit anon

>>153979482
>Xom slaps you in the face with two fire vortexes!

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>>153979482
praise xom

>>153977074
No problem, anon.
I feel like they should also spawn at military bases, but it doesn't seem to list them in the military itemgroups.

>>153975847
Well in yred's defense, with kiku you could just spam delivery and go nutballs.

>>153980095
People thought that was somehow OK in older versions. I really don't understand how they could want that back in the game, atleast from a power level perspective. It was fun as hell, but damn if it wasn't cheesy.

>>153980181
there were far worse issues like filling your entire fucking screen with dragons

>>153980261
Haha yeah. When your zot:5 strategy is to find a teleport trap so that you can feed infinite dragons into it, you know something is wrong.

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Does anyone know anything about this? I know that the wiki is bad, but this page is absolutely terrible. I don't know when it was removed, if it was Transmutations or Translocations, how useful it was, or even if it actually existed. learndb says nothing about it.

>>153980457
It was tloc, pretty gud for the school.

>>153980649
When was it removed? Was it a superior Magic Dart? A weaker Airstrike? I know a level 1 spell can't be expected to be great, but it seems like the kind of spell I wish Translocations still had, and I might want to play the version it existed in.

>>153973584
Death channel and infestation still work.

>>153980842
>When was it removed?
In like 0.1.

>>153980842
apportation is pretty great

>>153980438
What the fuck is wrong with that? That sounds really fun and clever. I guess stuff like that is too nethacky, I have no idea why someone would be so assblasted about interesting features that they'd go out of their way to remove them.

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>>153981082
sad and/or mad

>>153981128
it's stupidly overpowered, taking zero risk, and doesn't fit the game ("nethacky" is a good way to describe it)

>>153981128
Because when we say entire screen of dragons, we meant entire screen. You'd be sitting there in lich form just spamming channel durrgin for free and essentially allahu ackbar the entire floor with 200 dragons. Two. Hundred.

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thats just bullshit, straight up blasting you to pieces...

I just grabbed a bat and put it outside
what roguelike should i play to celebrate

>>153982276
It can only happen to low HP characters early in the game. You only lost 5 minutes.
>>153982413
Caves of Qud

>>153982413
Sil.
Never pick up light sources.
Use echolocation (Song of Trees) to navigate.

>>153981128
It sounds fun, but its actually fucking maddening. You spend a few THOUSAND turns alternating channel, summon dragon, and yelling at your dragons to walk into the traps so that they can teleport around and fight stuff. You do this for EVERY FLOOR. Every level of pan, every level of hell. You aren't ever in danger, but you'd probably go mad before you won. I feel like perma zombies were a bigger issue, but they were both really dumb.

>>153972000
Starting an rlgrobin game on cbro now. Taking votes on what combo to play.

>>153983854
MuMo

>>153983854
http://crawl.berotato.org:8080/#watch-rlgrobin

>>153984027
I'll MuMo but I will not do the challenge. Anyone else?

>>153983854
>>153984146
FeAr HOMo KoCK DECK

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>>153982413
DCSS

>>153984294
that's four things, fucko

>>153984146
FeAr MiNe HOMo KoCK

>>153982413
play dcss and do the makhbat challenge: VpMo, worship Makhleb ASAP, as soon as you have lesser destruction never leave batform

>>153983854
do a VM of Uskayaw

>>153984580
pound the tum tum!

>>153984371
It's not like you'll be alive long enough to take even an hour to do them all.

>>153984850
Too late, I'm doing FeFe. Am surviving d:1 so far, despite adder.

>>153985372
just wait until you run into a subtractor

>>153985883
Too bad the dividers got removed.
>You hear a squelching noise!

>>153986034
and then they decided multipliers were too nethacky

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rip

>>153985372
On d:5, xl7, have TWO RINGS OF FIRE (!!!!!!!)

>>153986303
Worshipping Ru now! FeFe^Ru ACTIVATE

>>153986384
>not dith

>>153986384
>not qazlel

Okay, I can't find a file for Linley's Crawl. dungeoncrawl.org is broken/doesn't load properly even when I edit the links into the address bar
crawlj doesn't allow me to download either: "you do not have permission to access this page".
DCSS archives only date back to ~.5

Anyone happen to have it?

>>153986490
>not FeFe^Fe(dhas)

>>153987151
Just did a goog, not sure what this crap is:
https://github.com/crawl/crawl-ancient

>>153986384
Using amulet of harm and two rings of fire, just fireballing everything.

>>153987151
>linley

Lindsay.

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Apparently the zombie sightseeing trip came to a stop outside my house.

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>>153992401
n-no

>>153992662
Lindsay is in the /rlg/ discord voice chat right now if you want to talk to her

>>153992662
>>153993260
Yeah, come hit her up. She has a cute accent.

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>>153993260
>>153993949
I will if that bitch Kate ever unbans me

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So where are we getting the meme that Sblades can't into damage? This isn't even a QB nor fully enchanted

>cata
>made it to end game
>every city, even a small square of 4 buildings, is filled with hundreds of zombies, zombie hulks, zombie predators, corrosive zombies, grenadiers and all sorts of stupid bullshit

why

>>153994352
Oh wow, you killed a few ettins while berserked and holding a +4 flame rapier

>>153994352
wow bad ass
how do i get good at crawl like you?

So I'm not super good at DCSS but I want to try an unarmed Demonspawn. Would I be better off starting as Monk or Berserker? Berserk is a very useful skill and so is the reinforcements you get later.

Also how bad is armor penalties? Should I stick to robes and leather or can I get plate armor?

>>153995031
Monk probably. You get extra UC skill and extra piety. I recommend Makhleb for a god, he gives you ranged options as well as powerful allies.

Armor penalty is based on your strength and your armor skill. If you have enough of both, you can wear plate armor without any issue. Unless you wanna be a casting monk, you should probably wear something heavier than a robe, troll leather at the least.

>>153995168

Righto. I usually do a berserker with plate armor and a glaive, but I wanted to try something new and with the right mutations, Demonspawn can be pretty good at melee.

>>153994697

You can't do that without berserking with any sword a kobold can wield of similar enchantment+brand and especially at such an early point in the game with a -1 longblade apt.

I keep hearing a distant "Zot!"

what is this

>>153995258
Yeah. One thing about Demonspawn is they have kind of cruddy aptitudes in everything except invocations, so worshiping a god that provides good backup abilities is key.

>>153995405
An enemy stepped on a Zot Trap somewhere on the level. Zot Traps are the most deadly kind of trap.

>>153995446

It keeps happening

about x25 times now

>>153995446

I don't think I like Mahkleb. I summoned a smoke demon and it immediately killed me.

This is a long shot, but is anyone playing the new Shiren title? I fucked up during a run through Onigiri Hollow, and I managed to find some really rare stuff that I don't want to go to waste. Anyone here that can do a rescue?

>>153979482
>>153994041
>>153994352

what game is this?

>>153998054

diablo

Transmute snekcs is a great spell that can get you out of the grave when all hope is lost.

If i have a manual, should i focus 100% on the skill i wish to train? I don't really want to do that, if i would train the skill just by 10% would it lessen the total amount of experience i get from manual?

what the fuck is the upside of gay races like Mummies?

>>153995987
You gotta get more invocation skill. His summoned demons never fail, the % rate is the chance they're hostile. As a general rule, never summon something if you'll die to it. It's just for additional allies before a fight.

And the real moneymaker with Makhleb is the health on kill and his Lesser Destruction. You can blast stuff from afar with LD since it's dirt cheap, and HP gain on kills makes it easy to chew through a bunch of fodder and come out on top.

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>>153998491
Proving you're a man

>>153998491

UmmmmMmMMM??? Have you even Played the game????

>>153998491
Retarded challenge race, same as Felid.

>>153998860

it's a shame because mummies and egyptian aesthetic are cool

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>>153979482

>/rlg/ is back to only playing DCSS

Well it was good while it lasted I guess

>>153999591
where the fuck have you been, it's been like this for god knows how long
I can't even remember the last flavor of the month that wasn't DCSS

>>153980181
>It was fun as hell
>I really don't understand how they could want that
Gee anon, I really don't either.

>>153999336
>xom, god of primal and uncontrollable chaos
>make him a generic white woman

>>153998423
>If i have a manual, should i focus 100% on the skill i wish to train? I don't really want to do that, if i would train the skill just by 10% would it lessen the total amount of experience i get from manual?
Anyone? Please?

>>153994352
berserk certainly helps because (like might) it adds +10 slaying

but having to berserk to kill things is generally bad because berserk will kill you dead

>>153994352
Ettins have like 0 AC bruh. Fuck up a Hell Sentinel with your butter knife in a straight-up fight, and I'll be impressed.

KoBe is a super-dank combo though. Got my first 3-rune win with it. I'm legit rooting for you to get more, my naga!

>>153995031
you can just pick fighter or gladiator and choose "unarmed" as your weapon

probably better than monk unless you really need/want the piety bonus

>>153995987
the game displays the % chance to be hostile doesn't it?
you shouldn't have used that ability before training invoc to make the chance go down
or if the chance really is low you can just summon 1-2 more to deal with the hostile one

>>153998054
Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup

>>154000357

A juggernaut and a stone giant has 4 and 2 pips of AC respectively though

>>154000225
no the manual is always worth the same amount of xp

but there's no point in training a skill at 10%
either it's useful to train right now in which case you want 50-100% or it isn't in which case you wait until after your current "right now" skills are good enough

>>153999591
Well then post some PCB or Sil or some shit, anon

>>153999336

Xom is such a meme god damn fuck xom nigger ass god

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>>154000357

I'll see what I can do if I can 15 rune this shite. No luck of finding Gyre anywhere it's a real bummer

>>154001017
just get a qb of elec man

way better than gyre and gimble and probably much better than your antimagic one for much of the game as well

>>154001017
>fast and slow
>0.1
?

>>154001329
People really underestimate how good antimagic brand is

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>>154001524

It happened before the turn I got slowed

>>154001524
>People really underestimate how good antimagic brand is
This. Antimagic shuts down spellcasting demons pretty hard, and a fair number of those demons resist electricity too.

>>154001329
AM is probably better if he's that far into the game.

Is Caves of Qud worth $10, or is there a better RL of its style out there for free (that isnt C:DDA)?

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I just can't stop splatting because of paralysis ahaha

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Do i train this beauty to min-delay?
Being an IE i have Ozocubu armour which would actually allow me to melee without committing suicide (and have 8 Ice Magic already), or do you think this weapon could be fine with 0 skill for "no-mana melee desperation"?
It's still early in the game so i can either choose to go full spellcaster or to go Melee-pode with AC from Ozocubu.

>>154005004
>not using antimagic qb
.....

>>153992607
>a clown car has arrived!
Zombos should be able to honk.

>>154000561
Thanks for reply. I do need the skill, but i also need to train magic skills so that Sif Muna would supply me with books.

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>>154006319
Sorry to bother, but now i don't know which direction to take with this squid.
Do i go full mad axe-man with Gozag (to go for good rings) or do i go full spellcasting Sif Muna and use the Axe only against demons/undead or as a melee last-resort?

>>154006319
>war axe
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Some of you guys are alright. Don't go to L:5

>>154007374
>L:5
>hes on L:6

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This run is suffering.

>>154007570
wtf I should've gone for the vault

Also is Infestation good

>>154007369
You could go transmuter/charmer. Hasted dragon form will make this axe look like a toothpick. Especially if you get some str rings. And with Ozokubu's armor and some AC and EV rings it won't be squishy.

>tfw been working on an open-world roguelike where creatures keep memories, relationships, personalities and whatnot
>creatures have some capacity of intelligence to learn and react to actions of others or by environment
>"child" creatures tend to form a relationship with older creatures and learn from them, gaining some of their abilities before they become an adult
>its kind of buggy though
>notice a human child running out of town and up into the mountains every day, decide to go into "spectator" and watch what he's doing
>every day he goes and socializes with a red dragon that spawned close to the test village
>the red dragon's social status to the kid is "Godfather"
>wut
>on the way back to town, kid passes by a wild boar and breathes fire on it before going on his way as if nothing had happened

I don't know if I should call this a bug or a feature holy shit.

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>>154007782
>Tevildo

>>154010809
>>154007782
Oh wait, that's Umuiyan, yeah, you're fucked.

>>154010598
I'd say feature, that sounds awesome.

>>154010809
>>154010881
Belegwath showed up before Umuiyan actually.
Then he showed up again on the next floor.

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How do I get gud?

Also, why are polearms so fucking bad?

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>>154012769
>polearms
>bad
I hate using them, but they are very strong.

>>154012769
This is classic, modify your rc file so you have to press enter when you see enemies that wield distortion weapon.

I'm stuck for half an hour in pan with all the runes, I want to get out how to do?

>>154013175
include += HDAForceMore.rc
Has all your ass saving -More-'s

>>154012769

I found polearms fairly great for slower moving races, just for the extra reach it offers them, especially against faster, kiting enemies, like bats or imps.

>>154013071
I'm trying to play a Merfolk Gladiator but I keep getting shat on somewhere between D:5 and D:9 by Skybeasts, ogres, yaks and shafts. Also; the droprate for ego or enchanted spears seems awfully low compared to the other weapon classes.

I can usually reach lair without too many problems, but I somehow don't gel with tridents and bardiches.

I possibly just suck @Mf

>>154013597
Enter abyss, if you get out from the abyss while in Pan, you'll get back to dungeon.

Read the wiki for details.

>>154013175
>>154013690
I'm not a clever man, what file is the rc file?

>>154014194
Are you playing offline or online; if online — tiles or console?

>>154013992
Tridents and bardiches aren't your only options. That's like going from a scimitar to a trisword immediately, bardiches are literally the heaviest polearm in the game and it's a ridiculously huge skill investment even with +4 apt whereas tridents are the second lightest

You should probably use a halberd and eventually upgrade to a glaive

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>>154014137
Thanks, I did it finally.

By the way, this is the same VsTm of chei that many guys here spectated a couple weeks ago. Thank you all if you were there, I never did a 15 runes and I'm never ever gonna do it again.

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You really ain't ought to take that off.

>>154015235
Needs Contam++.

>>154015235
>the amulet of Lasty's insistence

>>154015235
>The amulet of REEEEEEEEEEE

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>taste the heavenly nectar of a hasted bloatform demigod monk
>spend the rest of my days chasing that high

why didn't you warn me, /rlg/

why

this afternoon

one account

with few supporters

will stand against the darkness

deck of nemelex

coming soon

on a lantea close to you

>>154015487
Please ping the thread when you do actually go at it.

>>154015565
its started
currently at d3

>>154015427
what is bloatform

transmutation has lots of different forms but i can think of a couple forms the devs would consider bloat

>>154015951
Still on? What server?

>>154016770
just splatted
I thought xom would do me in
instead I drew wild magic which resulted in an orb of lightning (49 damage)

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>>154010598
>"child" creatures tend to form a relationship with older creatures

>statue form octopodes remain octopodes
>Hep's ancestor ghosts don't copy your race
Explain this bullshit.
I know it'd be too strong if your dad was also a minotaur, but I'm sure it's possible to balance it out.

restarting rlgrobin deck of nemelex on cxc
no hesitation
no surrender

>>154010598
You could post it to roguebasin or something, that sounds amazing

>>154010598
Definitely a feature.

>>154010598
this sounds fabricated

>>154010598
Super based. Keep it.

>>154017695
>statue form octopodes remain octopodes
And? It should somehow become an Appolo made by the ancient greek masters?

>>154017695
>being a tile-loving cuck

>>154018975
>being a brony barneyfag

>>154018975
It's not about being a tilepatrician, it's about your ghostdad not bieng the same race as you.
Like, a felid ancestor should not be able to wield weapons, and so on.

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>>154010598
things that never happened.jpg

>>154018192
Agreed, 100% BS.

>>154010598
Pretending to be a roguelike developer is probably the saddest state one can achieve. Seek help.

>>154019250
>interracial breeding is bad
Racist fuck

Hey, Mononoke anon. You're alright and have patrician taste.

>>154020937
It's aight and a total eyecandy, but honestly a decent amount of episodes has snail-paced story development.

>>154021132
I agree, but it gives you more time to watch whatever trippy bullshit is going on. It felt more like an art film in that regard.

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>>154019405
>Pretending to be a roguelike developer is probably the saddest state one can achieve.

Made me lose it for some reason.

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So should I go Wrath or Fearfire skill tree?
I hear you can't Fearscape bosses so that kind of sucks.

>>154022752
I mean Shadowflame not Fearfire.

crawl-less /rlg/ thread when

>>154023437
When you're fine with having a general that doesn't generate enough posts to stay alive for a week at most

>>154023437
But without crawlposters, what would the world's 5 remaining roguelike players bitch about?

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>>154023718
Vanilla Bagel and Dredmor.

PLEASE don't splat SpEn characters the ghosts are so fucking annoying

It just keeps spamming Confuse + Ensorcelled hibernation and since it's fast there's no way to flee except praying for a tele

>>154023718
what is the deal with crawlposters?
are they too scared of playing a real roguelike?

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>not picking Gambler
>rolling in dosh before even leaving the starting station

Pick one and only one

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>>154023659
There are many roguelikes other than Stone Soup. They just don't generate quite so much discussion.

What are you playing right now?

>>154024345
But once all the crawlposters begin playing [your_favorite_rl], wouldn't that ruin it for you?

It's better this way, anon. You real roguelike players can enjoy the sanctity of your games without them being trampled on by the unwashed masses.

Have fun!

>>154024648
>They just don't generate quite so much discussion.
Yes, that's the issue

A /rlg/ without crawl is a dead /rlg/. Or alternatively, it's a only-barely-alive general where people cling to a fresh new FotM until people get bored and start playing crawl again. It's happened with cata, it's happened with elona, it's happened with ADoM, it's happened with PCB and it will keep happening. There's no way to escape the endless cycle of suffering of crawl except to stop posting

>What are you playing right now?
Demon and crawl. I wish a few more people hopped in and posted demon shit desu

>>154024841
Honestly, I believe crawl only gets shit on because of how much people are playing it constantly, so people start noticing some major flaws and other questionable aspects of the game are revealed.
If [insert any roguelike here] was the most popular game on this general, people would be shitting on it as well, and asking why noone's playing DCSS.

>Orcs with wands of acid/lightning at D3
It's so cheap. At least game should warn you like it does with weapons of distortion.

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I choose to believe whoever splatted this character acknowledged he wasn't going to survive and so forgot all his spells except confuse and mephitic cloud to spite whoever found his ghost

>>154025039
>Demon and crawl. I wish a few more people hopped in and posted demon shit desu
I'm playing it right now and it's fucking incredible, but there is just not a whole lot of things to post.
It's a great game, but I dunno, it doesn't generate as many hilarious/infuriating rng-induced moments as other roguelikes or maybe I haven't ventured deep enough.

>>154025039
>I wish a few more people hopped in and posted demon shit desu
I'm trying to win for the first time, but i've only reached floor 10

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Will using expose on West break the link or is it only actual attacks?

>>154024478
So gambler means you get less money?

>>154026267
Nevermind they killed each other

>>154026267
I've never seen that unique, it's cool knowing there is a Re-Animator reference.
Does headless have some cool unique abilities?

Best way to protect my ass in ziggs for those 1d3 turns of no Death's Door?
Spirit shield of course, but i'm afraid that in megaziggs smiters might just be able to kill all my MP bar in one turn, and fog is unreliable in covering LOS completely (or does fog actually guarantee 2 clouds per direction, so covering LOS reliably?)
Or is it possible to clear maximum difficulty megaziggs floors with max spellpower spells during that 16 turn window (at worst)?

>>154026459
No, you get to pick one of the above statements and one is not picking gambler, the other is rolling in dosh.

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>>154027007
He has a ton of shit

Apparently he didn't die, he just joined my party immediately after killing West

>>154027007
He is a pretty good tank

>>154027165
Well, I got memed by huo shus. TPK

How do you deal with those?

>>154004402
older versions of qud are available for free from the dev website:
http://freeholdgames.com/?page_id=39

>>154027512
Like 75% of good allies at that point are weak to fire, so you want to try and grab one of the few dudes that resists (like goblin or kasha). I learned this after getting destroyed by fotias more times than I'd like to admit.

>>154027512
i never had problems with them, maybe because i always play as an elec/ice glass cannon

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>mfw trog gifts me a +4 triple sword of holy wrath on D 13

do I start training long blades? was using polearms til now. no shields skill at all but I figured I would start once I actually fucking found one and switched to a d trident or some shit (have been using a +8 artefact bardiche for a while (praise trog))

>>154015956
hydraform is actually "bloat" in the sense that its existence is pointless because nobody ever uses it

but the bloatform meme is about statueform because gargoyleposters are mad about not being able to use it

>>154027992
No, training to even 1.0 delay with a trisword will be a xp sink. It's one of those weapons that require so much investment you may not want to use it even as a specialist in a 3 rune

If you go extended sure

>>154024478
oh hey Prospector

is the endgame less buggy nowadays
the last time I played it, space stations would eventually flood from "global warming", and the game would crash if you tried to drive one of the alien scout ships

>>154028253
I wouldn't know since I last splatted when I just started rolling in dosh and purchasing a new ship.

Also, fuck, I found a battleship not long ago but it had no bridge so I couldn't steal it.

>>154028192
not like it fucking matters, game crashed while dropping with shift +l click and I died to the dude with a shit ton of humans with him after I raped his ass the last time

>>154028397
oh yeah and can you still grind your away party up to infinite xp by setting them to nonlethal mode and beating up a sleeping/incapacitated enemy

>>154028469
Well thank you very much anon. I'll be abu- using this little trick.

By the way, how does exp work? It seems to me like its allocated or "used" whenever you dock at a station.

>>154027093
Convert to Gozag and enjoy passive mass paralysis.
Unless you abuse Gozag's power it'd be very hard to defeat Megazig.

Anyway, the best answer is just practice megazig in Wizard mode.

>>154028853
the gozig strat was nerfed

>>154030536
...So? I have a Gozag character right now. Not nerfed enough, facerolling. Can log in and stream if you want.

>>154028853
Makhleb is good enough for megazigs. Doable with Zin in 0.16 too.

What a noble sacrifice!

>WHEN ITS DA MIDDLE OF DA NIGHT AND U DEAD AS F

HP -4/20
..%.....
.....K...
...@....
..K...G..
..>.....+

The kobold hits you for 8 damage
The kobold hits you for 4 damage, you die!


>SMASH THAT MF LIKE BUTTON

>>154032528
REAL ROGUE HOURS WHO UP

I built a prototype wrestling roguelike with a heavy emphasis on details, and you play the role of a luchador trying to save his girlfriend from a spicy habanero-eating dragon. unfortunately when I let a friend try it the first thing he did was find a priestess, grapple her, rip her garmets off and then pummel and skull bash her until she was unconscious.

how do I encourage players to not harass the townsfolk and instead go about the adventure of TRUTH, JUSTICE, and HONOR to become the LUCHA LEGEND?

>>154032528
polecat ke/v/abs

Does Siv's divine energy cost no piety?
If so, it's fucking insane.

>>154028462
Based pikel

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>>154032528

>>154033574
yeah it's p. good early on

>>154033574
It costs a fuck ton of hunger. Mummies are good with Sif for this reason.

>>154032970
i'd do as your friend did.

>Life

>#########
>#....=.......
>#........./....
>#%...@.....
>###..........
>####....T...

>You see a Tyrannosaurus.
>The Tyrannosaurus sees you!
>You hear roaring!
How fucked am I, /rlg/ ?

I miss old ToME's linear scaling.
Now everything is
>muh balance
and you can no longer have (hostile rares with) 15 radius breath attacks, +120% global speed from essence of speed, passive 70% all damage reduction, 20 bone shields regenerating 1/turn, 30 turn stuns etc.

Magic is so fucking gay it's nearly useless in DCSS because you run out of MP after casting 5 magic darts at a kobold and all of them either missing or doing no damage REEEEEEE

>>154034581
Grab the wand and pray it's teleport/death

>>154035094
>Magic Dart
>Missing
u wot? and just stab them you bookworm pussy

>>154035094
>gay
t. middleschooler

>>154035609

i'm just mad because Spriggan conjurer isn't working for me

I'm not so good at stabbing things and half of my spells do shit damage

>>154035094
Magic dart literally never misses

Cj is pretty boring though. Try a FE and that you may like more since while it's an offensive school the starting book has things that aren't "blast the dudes", "blast the dudes harder" and "blast the dudes with a twist"

>>154036340
Be a shitty hexless caster who knows magic dart, go sif/Gozag, become a hexer caster who still knows magic dart if you haven't bothered forgetting it and THEN maybe learn some conjuration spells. Spriggans are absolute shit at offensive casting

>>154036775
stabber*

>>154036775

So what ARE spriggans good at?

>>154036445
>threaten the dudes with being blasted
>blast more dudes when you blast this dude
DCSS is about blasting dudes.
>tfw no qt dude to blast irl

>>154037408
Non-offensive casting. They have top tier apts for hexes, charms, transmutations, translocations and spellcasting itself. Most of those they actually have the best apts in the entire game. Their air magic and necromancy aren't great but not so bad either, so you're set. The other schools you can go the whole game without

>>154036445
>Cj is pretty boring though.

Cj is great.

>laser
>laser cannon that gets more powerful with each shot
>laser that blinds all the dudes in front of you
>landmine that explodes into lasers
>BIG laser
>orb that shoots BIG lasers whenever you shoot lasers

You just have no appreciation for lasers.

>>154033601
not pikel, way deeper.

pikel is a bitch and I take over his harem every time

are there any fighter builds where you'd put tons of points into STR over DEX? all I can think of would be like if you were intending to use maces or axes

>>154037408
unarmed
go for SF spriggy pulverizing iron giants to dust with one punch

>>154038520
what version are you playing? different weapons having different str/dex weights was removed a while ago

basically the reason you would get lots of str is if you want to wear really heavy armor like CPA

>>154037408
Casting support spells, they have best apts in hex, charm, translocate, spellcasting.. Also on top of that best stealth apt and dodging apt which can be leveled up easily mid game and be set at some level to and just leave it there

>>154028819
>By the way, how does exp work? It seems to me like its allocated or "used" whenever you dock at a station
Some party members gain EXP by doing job-related things like hitting stuff in ship-to-ship combat for the Gunner, identifying plants/scanning planets/etc. for the Science Officer, healing dudes for the Chief Medical Officer, etc.
However, everyone gains EXP for hitting stuff on planetside.

EXP is accumulated infinitely, until you "level up", at which point it resets to 0. "Leveling up" occurs when you dock at a major station or enter a bar and try to promote your crew members on the recruitment menu. There's some kind of calculation (involving a little RNG, not sure how much) that checks the max HP of the crewmember vs their EXP, and if the EXP is sufficiently high then the crewmember "levels up". "Leveling up" increases HP by 1, and increases all rolls (combat and job-related) by 1.

FUCK Mesmerisation. What the fuck am I even supposed to do. Quaff cancelation. Whoops no grace period its back on you!

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I killed the hulk and was ran over by my car, killing me instantly. Actually I'm not even sure I killed the hulk.

This idea sounded better than it worked out.

>>154041029
wear MR
kill the mesmerizer
cast lightning bolt to end it

>>154041029
Break LoS
Read tele
Make a very loud noise
Just kill the fucker

>play Caves of Qud after a while
>get level 20
>visit Golgotha
>get tripped over by eel and get mouthful of slime
>contract ironshank and glowcrust and later fungus infection
>have wine, vinegar, asphalt, honey
>still need gel made from slime and desalination pellet to make a cure for everything
>have a week to find desalination pellet before the ironshank fucks me over
>go to asphalt mines
>my tongue rots in the meanwhile
>whatever
>finally at mines after few days
>get to level 10
>too late ironshank fucks up my bones making me immobile

Well too bad to loose such great character to disease but that was fucking intense.

Is there a place in Qud with desalination pellets or is it just random drop?

>>154042298
What manga is this dude from anyway?

>>154044083
Hajime no Ippo

>>154044083
Boku no Pico

>>154044329
Liar.

>>154044083
Bakemonogatari.

>>154043946
It's rare and shows up as a 'tiny trinket.'

If you're going to Golgotha, try not to spend much time there.

>>154044649

Yeah I totally forgot about the disease bullshit from my last run. I've spend way too much time at the last level.

>>154044803
On the plus side, they've made glotrot easier to cure.

>>154019250
based retard not knowing shit about crawl's lore
felids are familiars, your "ancestor" is the person that summoned you into being
the fact that you're alone in the dungeon hints at the fact that your master is dead

>>154046065
>grasping at straws
What, octopode ancestors are now people who fished them out of the sea too? And why tengu/mino ghosts don't have beak/headbutt aux attacks? Why trolldads don't regenerate faster?

>>154025356
>not getting one hit killed by a high strength yeti throwing a boulder at your glass cannon boipussy

>>154046486
they're all half races, you're just summoning up the perv that fucked a magic beast (your grandmum)

>>154043946
>YOOOOOOO

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>>154046789

>>154046789
What about demigods, demonspawn and vinestalkers then?

>>154026267
No. You can debuff West to shit as long as you don't hurt him. But if you use it on headless he'll turn hostile.

>>154027007
Headless has some buff abilities and makes your party take turns faster when he attacks. Also diehard prevents you from dying if you take a fatal hit.

>>154027512
>>154027729
Malingee is a god-tier early game tank that resists fire and deals decent damage. And fotia are fucking bullshit, it's really awkward to fight against them without endangering you or your party, unless you're all fire resistant. Once your character gets ignited, prepare for the smite-targeted stare spam that will immolate you if you don't break LOS.

>>154047130
That actually fits in his description, cause demigods cant even worship hep, demonspawn are half human and vinestalkers are parasytes.
But it still doesn't make sense for octopodes and trolls.

>>154032970
kek
there's rape in the game right?

>>154012769
Diversify your tactics. o + tab will not solve everything, even with a diesel combo like MfGl rockin polearms. Train at least one ranged combat skill to deal with shit you don't want to melee; Throwing is a fine choice for Mf.

>>154041367
click it or ticket
buckle up or get fucked up
wear the belt or death will be dealt
put on the harness or prepare for darkness

>>154047943
>harness
>darkness
what godawful accent do you have where those two words rhyme?

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>>154023880
brb, splatting some SpEns on CAO to rustle some jimmies

>>154047357
never seen hentai before? and concerning trolls, i think they resemble bears. green, blue and literal iron bears

>>154048307
american

@: stop raping me with your rogue """"""""""""likes"""""""""""""""

>>154047943
It seemed harmless, and then I was armless.

>>154048569
i speak american and i am going to tell you right now: those words don't rhyme at all, and i have no idea what is wrong with you

U U U
U @U
U U U
Poor little rune knight

https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7e858c24e4ba85a9c12a47e5d7b5ecd3eb305732

autobutcher finally added

complete removal of food when

What is the best non-unique tank demon and prefix?

>>154050094
Mindbender Ehlose, or Chthonic if we can use a Unique Prefix

>Don't mind me, just resisting everything but fire

>>154050797
>tfw i don't know what the fuck a Ehlose is
I have to git gud tbqh.

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Rate my pokemon team

>>154050094
Pretty much anything can be a good meatshield with the right abilities (stacked with blocks/dodges/HP leeching + reshape/malleable). Like the other anon said, Ehlose has a crazy amount of resists, and has an ability that boosts EV for your whole party, but it comes later on. Early on pretty much any demon with block/dodge/HP regen abilities will work fine. Also player characters make the best tanks because you can properly position yourself and focus your stats.

>>154051045
Oh, well, earlygame Wisps are great because they meme on anything physical and have Souleater to boot. You can even make them Fiery/Charged to have them be the bane of your least favorite elemental asshole as well.

Also good
Headless
Malingee
Jiang Shi(Assuming their lifesteal doesn't get rekt by body resistance and you don't send them to die against Fire/Elec/Light)
The Shoggoth that sometimes shows up in Anomaly 3

>>154051537
I give it 2 (two) demons out of 6

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>>154051537
Needs moar Tormentor on your summoner

In Arcadia but no Artemis/10

>>154051862
who is that semen demon

>>154051862
The only way to get Artemis is activating the dog massacre and betraying that cute talking deer-thing?

>>154052245
Yup, unless you have a Gold Offering. Then you could get her and Actaeon.

Pro Tip- have souleater on yourself and some frontliner demons, it helps loads

>>154052232

Blonde is a Lilim snakedancing with Ilomba
Brunette is Artemis snakelifting with Python because Chthonic Artemis is a seriously dank fusion

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I love this road network that's in place for one house.

How dangerous is arcadia?

>>154055113
So it turns out it's pretty fucking dangerous, fuck hounds and fuck actaeon

i miss divinations

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSN6et9eze8

>>154055478
Yea dude. Even without trying to link with the deer, there's redcaps and fauns or whatever that might the redcaps and spam their throw rock bullshit. Asrai appear in there too with their fucking frost dart spam with fairies for healing.

>>154056335
That's not a veil tank

>>154056565
I'm pretty much throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks

I had been relying on my zar and malingee to help me whack things in the face and a lifegiver gandayah as healer, but the hounds beat the tar out of them so it's just me and the fucking deer

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What do I need to wear this motherfucker as a demigod? It's a mere 3696 gold.

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>when Lucy wants your halfling D real bad but you got this thing goin' with Chei and you don't wanna ruin it

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>>154058958

>>154058743
27 points in armor and all your stat ups into strenght
>>154058958
>>154059178
This might be the first time i've seen the vault in effect, even if it's just the log

>>154059339
Demigod melee characters who pump str even a little bit are going to be stronger than anything short of a troll, ogre, minotaur or formicid, and 2 of those can't even wear CPA. Demigods get 18 stat points with level ups, which is higher than what most races get as total starting str as a fighter. If your post was true literally no character who wasn't a minotaur/formicid with a shitton of +Str and armour training could wear CPA

>>154060253
I'm assuming he wants to cast shit with it, gotta get that encumbrance down

>>154060754
I mean, you don't need a lot of incentive to wear a +8 CPA with suttab and clarity

>>154061059
He's a demigod, sustAt is intrinsic

>>154060253
all stat ups into strength isn't *necessary* for Dg to wear CPA, but wearing CPA makes putting extra stats into str more appealing than dex/int anyways

>>154061223
:^(

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>>154060253

Deep Elves can wear orange CPA

With harm doing so much drain now should I be IDing amulets?

>>154063747

Drain is a never an issue unless it's from getting Sonja'd.

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Shatter is literally "cast to cleanse LoS" at 999 spellpower.

Zigs should be fun, especially once I get Tornado.