/rlg/ - Roguelike General

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Demigods are OP

>Have ascended in nethack 12 times and done some conducts
>Beat brogue once
>probably 1000+ hours in cataclysm dda

Yet I can't stand DCSS. I don't know why, but there's just something about it that refuses to click with me, and I've never made it far.

Why, rlg?

>>154176718
shit game

>>154176687
>can't pick any god
>-2 exp
>-1 to other aptitudes.
>lost innate SustAb recently
>op

I've almost never seen Demigod win here.

>>154176287
Well, at 27 dodging you will get about 2 EV per dex point, but your EV is going to be 31 at 24 dex 27 dodging, is it really worth the investment at such a high level?
In my experience if you get charms and buff yourself with ozocubu's armor, deflect missiles and haste as long as you're not doing dumb things like getting surrounded by highly damaging mobs your only real problem would be cold attacks like simulacras and freezing clouds.

>>154176718

because ur shit lol

>>154176687
Your favorite race is OP and should be nerfed.

My favorite race is clearly underpowered and should get 1% GDR per level in addition to a bonus auxiliary attack.

>>154176893

Gods are bloat and it's already been scientifically proven by the roguelikes research institute in Harvard.

>>154176893
You can stack INT and become more powerful caster than a deep elf while having more HP, though you would have to rely on RNG for books.

They should make a roguelike where you're a randomly generated item...and adventurers pick YOU up.

>>154176893
I'll have you know I am sitting on a 100% alltime DgTm winrate anon. Sleeper OP combo 10 years running.

>>154177210
But what would you be able to do?

>>154177528
You could invoke your magical powers at specific times to help or hurt your adventurer on his quest. Do you want to stay with the same weak adventurer all your existence before being lost forever, or do you want to be wielded by an omnipotent lich for eternity, or do you want to live a calm lifestyle above your adventurer's fireplace after he retires, then be passed down through his family line for generations?

>>154177210
I've never played poschengband, but isn't that basically rings?

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Newguy trying to beat Brogue from yesterday.

I started a new game and somehow managed to get this far, this dryad is completely fucking garbage against salamanders and will o' wisps.

I have no idea on what should I use my enchantment scrolls, and yes that leather armor is the best armor I found.

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Slime for the slime god! Got lucky with an early random god altar.

>>154179426
>early Jiyva
>lucky

actually that might be right now that your jellies no longer eat undiscovered shit.

How do you gain piety with nu-Jiyva?

>>154123951
Yeah I got kind of distracted by a magma worm and suddenly that happened. Ended up with ridiculous credits from bio data alone though so it's fine.

>>154180001
I dunno mang, I find Jiyva super strong overall. Loads of good mutations, the exclusive ones being OP. Slimify dangerous uniques. No need to train invo.

Also very fast Piety gain, I'd say. Just request some jellies when you're about to finish a floor and they'll gobble up all the crap lying around. I think I was at full piety by D:10 or so.

>>154177210
Play poschengband as a ring

>>154179013
Well normally this would be the part where you'd be in a decent plate and be told to up your ring of regen for a regen cheese run but you don't have that. You only have one surviving ally. you're just kind of dicked mate.

>>154180001
>actually that might be right now that your jellies no longer eat undiscovered shit.

Nope.
You hear a distant slurping noise.
You feel a little less hungry

>>154180579
Curious, I remember reading about a jiyva change in the commits a month ago

>>154180660
They removed non-Jiyva jelly eating, which is probably what you're thinking of.

>>154180660
>Make jelly item-eating Jiyva only
http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=6f6d80984bf40f54a5c5a6085526dd78106c6443

It means jellies don't eat items anymore unless you worship Jiyva.
If you worship Jiyva, they'll eat any item, the one in your sight, or the one outside your sight.

>>154177210

As long as that roguelike doesn't allow you to cBlink, it's all good.

>>154176578

>no quickblade of ultra higgghhg speedy and Naruto headplate Okawaru emblem and /hasting wielded

not speedy/10

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>Your demonic ancestry asserts itself...
>You feel robust.

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xth for yrede

>>154182489

>you are now completely covered in sharp spines

>>154176718
Maybe because Crawl is all about fightan fightan fightan and doesn't have more elaborate inventory and item management like in the games you've listed?

>>154182567
It almost feels like a way of trolling that one anon now.

I wish slimes were playable in DCSS.

>cannot equip items besides weapons
>mutates every level
>high hunger, but can eat any item
>corrode ability

>>154183408
this sounds like felids yet somehow even more boring

>>154183273
>It's not a bug, it's a feature!

Is there a line in your character dump that says how many undeads you have summoned? I mean, it even says how much of each fucking food you've eaten, it'd be nice to stroke my NECROMANCER ROTTING PENIS.

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how will our hero escape this time?

>>154184303
>Aktiver Windows

kys asap

>>154184384
Woah there, please don't bully that anon for not aktivering. It's possibly the most entertaining thing that's happened in the last few threads.

>>154183408
Play poschengband friendo

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>>154184303
>the Black Mamba hisses at me: "Aktiver Windowssssss"

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>>154184704

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well lesson learned, white spiders are a big no-no in terms of melee combat

>>154184384
wish granted

>>154177659
>being a literal cuck

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>>154184869
Bro, do you even lift?

You had 9/9 Sp, why weren't you moving backwards until he got adjacent then darbolt, stab, darkbolt, stab him?

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How would you fix Cataclysm:DDA?

>>154185139
i thought i could save my spirit and just hack it to pieces. i forgot they have been buffed in the dev branch

and then this fuck appeared out of nowhere. do the buffed spiders have stealth now?

>>154185139
Why is that spider biting the other spider's ass?

>>154185286
Saving is for dead men

>>154185431
It's probably 1 spider moulting

>>154185203
wow i want that map.

on topic: DDA is fine

>>154185203
Zombie hordes changed so instead of just padding cities with zeds and spawning zeds on noise, it now automatically spawns huge groups way off in the distance around you but only like once or twice a week. Bases spawn rate on how much noice you make over the course of days or weeks and how long since last horde. if you play totally silent you may not see one for weeks, if you go guns blazing it still might take a few days for a horde to show up to at least let you have fun using guns, but it'll be a big horde

Also how bout a fucking end game

How do flail work in brogue?

How do I get the extra attack?

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what do, no stairs in sight.
>resists electricity
Fuggg.
Do I just run around and try to find a portal or burn through all of my consumables in a vain attempt at killing her?

>>154187117
Forgot to mention, I have 2 fire runes and Zaji's weak to fire. Would that do the trick, considering that I also have a huo shu that might live for a couple of turns or I shouldn't even bother?

where can i find zin recitation quotes?

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>>154187117
>>154187286
DEATH OR GLORY
And I've chosen DEATH
Holy frick she's diesel, fuck regen desu.

>>154187802
Also, I really want to know how damage is calculated in demon, since obviously "X power attack" does not equate to "deals X damage in hitpoints".
Can someone elaborate on that?

>>154187473
They're randomly generated from parts. Ctrl-f "book_of_zin" here
https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/889e34bb27c2e9f1f11a0ebee0f6915dcb56e20c/crawl-ref/source/godabil.cc

How the fuck do you recover HP with Zin if you want use to your amulet slot for something other than regeneration? At least Ely and TSO have some form of healing, but this faggot only takes gold for himself.

>rest til full hp
>250+ turns passed
>new monsters spawned already
>take you down to half hp
>repeat step one

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>>154188069
thanks

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>>154188326
anything for you anon

>>154176893
Because Demigods are boring as fuck and pretty annoying to get through the mid game, and then even more annoying to get through extended.

It's like Centaurs, they're good but not very fun.

>>154185203
I'd remove filthiness morale penalty, for starters

>>154188895
>remove filthiness morale penalty
that may be a quirk
like "hobo" or smth

>>154188248
How are you getting hurt when you cast the +9/+9/+9 dick enlargement ability at every turn?

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>>154188248

Why would you donate Gold to Zin? Are u a retart?

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Daily reminder that if you find yourself caught in the apocalypse the first thing you should do is wear as many sunglasses as possible.

>Demon is focused on party combat
>Doesn't give even such basic level of command over allies as crawl
I don't understand.

Can you cheat around Gozag's food monopoly with Hydra Form?

>>154189071
>-2 Dodging
>no shield
there's your answer, and that's not even extended with its torment/hellfire spam

>>154189139
piety draining trove, but really it's more of a joke you know

>>154188248
Donating gold only increases piety gained in the near future and nothing else
How about you avoid the damage in the first place? Or just swap amulets when resting? A regen amulet should heal you in less than 100 turns, and unless you're using gourmand there is no bloody reason not to swap

>>154189582
Yes, same with stabbing sleeping enemies as a vampire

>>154189658
he's probably playing newer versions where you can't swap regen

>>154189658
Regeneration amulets only work when put on at full HP. You'd need a ring or a weapon with Regen+.

>>154189582
gozag's food cost is overrated anyways, if you're a melee character with only low-level spells you can do 15 runes on permafood only

>>154189876
Unfortunately as a Transmuter you're a mage-warrior with low int and spellcasting.

>>154189919
Ah, okay. I thought you were theory-crafting in general, instead of referring to a specific character.

>>154189919

It's a non-issue even if you're spellcasting. Just play quick and don't waste turns

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>>154189472
Yeah, that bugs me a little bit, I wonder if it's intended
>Though the relics are powerful, they have limits: They do not allow [direct control of demons], and the powers they grant are only enough to make the Summoner as strong as... not stronger than... the demons within the tower.

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>mfw found my 4th book of Annihilations at XL16, 3 are in shops
>still no Shatter book

They should balance slimes to make them a real enemy.

>>154191387
Slimeballs are a disgusting species unworthy of respect and consideration.

>>154179013
>Brogue is hard
It really is. And yeah, Dryads are shit and should really be reworked or removed. At least you've got a fire immunity charm.

Suggested enchantment candidates:
-Whip of Speed (good for killing enemies before they get too close)
-Wand of Plenty (only after you've found an endgame monster like a Tentacle Horror)
-Ring of Regen (at high levels, will literally let you fully heal in a couple turns and shrug off caustic gas or even fire, but you'll need better armor to pull that off otherwise you'll still get one-hit killed)

>>154191572
Yeah, but they are retarded as fuck
>weakness to everything
>mediocre hp
>mediocre damage
The only worthy thing they have is malleable.

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>>154187117
>>154187286
>>154187802
HAHA IM GOING TO MAKE YOU DOUBLE-PEACE-SIGN-AHEGAO NOW, SLUT.

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>>154191575
I got fucked by a kraken in the end, more like I tried to save the dryad by it by tossing a confusion, just to end up being the one grappled. Fuck floors where I have to walk in water.

Right now I'm trying to go balls deep with my axe. I can deal with everything but I'm p sure I'll get roasted by dragon like the other time.

>play cataclysm
>find fusion gun during first day in a spider basement
>find two fusion cores in other basements
>never find a UPS to fire the damn thing
>die
fack

>FORGOVE ME FATHA FOR I HAV SINNED

Health 15/19

....$...........
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.......@.......
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You smash the Like-Like for 2 damage with your fists!
You feel a little bit guilty.
The Like-Like missed!
You smash the Like-Like for 3 damage with your fists!
You feel a little bit guilty.


>SMASH DAT MF LIKE BUTTON

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If you aren't playing a character who is pretty and stylish then you don't know shit about surviving the apocalypse.

>>154194314
WHO
TF
UP
?!

>>154194430
The earth shall be inherited by the moe.

>>154194430

>Lactose Intolerant

found the subhuman

>>154194314
REAL
ROGUE
HOURS

SMASH DAT MF TAB

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Time For Fun™

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>All of this on D5
Artifact game strong

>>154195184
>the iron shot is frozen in time perforating the satyr's smug face as vehumet's gift of knowledge descends upon his follower

>http://demon.ferretdev.org/devblog/new-kids-on-the-block/
>that Baphomet

>>154194430
>hates vegetables
>not vegetarian
You're doing hipster survival runs wrong.

>>154190189
Anon, transmuters usually don't train spellcasting at all until endgame. You'd be burning through a ration every 2 times you use spider form or wasting xp to get spellcasting before getting any new form

>>154195962

I know what you're saying and it's a non-issue. Play fast,don't waste time and you'd end up with more permafood than you could eat even if you're a blaster with low Int.

>>154196225
Can you do a HuTm on webtiles to demonstrate?

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FUUUUCCKKKK YES

>>154196361

>Hu

That is cheating but whatever. HuTm^Gozag right? I'm currently on a middle of a run that will still take long because webtilespeed. Pretty sure a random anon here could demonstrate it for you first since it's really easy to do as a Human.

Why do most roguelikes look like degenerate games in terms of graphics? You can't be like "a game is not about graphics" when the game is represented in ASCII characters. In 2016, it doesn't even require any kind of effort to implement the slightest of visuals.
Not saying that they're unplayable, but visuals look like someone shat on them purposely.

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>>154194650
Human body wasn't meant to subsist on pus-filled sludge from mutated sweat glands.

>>154197629
Because nobody who matters cares

>>154197792
Yet it's pretty much the only thing newborns can consume?
Stop making excuses, inferior one.

>>154197426
Human because they have close to average apts for all important skills, you can do a harder one if you want. Do it tomorrow if needed, just don't do the "pick a spellcasting start and then don't use spells until Zot" meme.

>>154197792
It originally wasn't, which is why we evolved the ability to digest it as adults several millenia ago

>>154198136
I was planning to do an OpTm anyway. Starting in 16 minutes — you can watch if you want. casual@cxc

>>154197792

ur brain is so retart youre body forgot to evolve LOL

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>>154195184
>>154195379
Couldnt resist

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>>154198743
>0.14 spiderform
>eating chunks

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POUND THE SNAKES AS HARD AS YOU POUND THE TUMTUM

Is manashield a bat demon mut for a caster? Or the opposite?

>>154200680
Please do not encourage pedophilia

>>154200339
It's 0.14 everything, if you know what I mean.

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>>154200680
Noyce.

All hail Yredelemnul and his soul stealers
No small thing too quick for his corpse reelers
Don't waste time with your nets
Our corpse timer is set

Ready go, many others know but
We be the rousers of the lost and decrepit
They be dead, we enslave it
With the 24 hour dungeon dive
Rotting flesh attacks while you die like yaks
With them shiny, shiny bones
Oh, thats Rupert
Gotta splat, super fast

>ARTIFICIAL ROGUE HOURS

HP 22(25)
mace+1(shocking)

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You hit the doppleganger!
The doppleganger changes shape...
The rogue hits you!
Unknown command: ^C

>DO NOT SMASH LIKE! DO NOT SMASH LIKE!

>>154204072
SMASH THAT ^C COMMAND, MY DOPPELGANGER

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Is there any roguelike where i can play as a ninja skeltal?

Redpill me on Uskayaw

>>154204227
Poschengband, ToME 4

>>154204309
POUND THE TUM TUM

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/rlg/ back then when /rlg/ was good:
>so I played this roguelike that isn't Crawl and here are the screenshots
>how do you build a dude in that rl that isn't Crawl?
>this rl that isn't Crawl is pretty stupid, but it's still fun
>so I played Crawl and...
>I like that new addition to that rl

/rlg/ now:
>anim
>pedophiles
>Crawl
>anime pedophiles playing Crawl
>anime pedophiles making shitty memes about Crawl
>anime pedophiles making shitty memes about things not related to roguelikes
>/v/tard rejects
>Crawl
>every rl that isn't Crawl sucks!
>Crawl sucks but I'm not going to play anything else because everything else is shit
>that rl that I played is shit
>those rls that nobody plays are fucking amazing and you should play them

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>>154203689
Rupert is hardly a threat to a high piety yredude tho.
He can't confuse you because he can'y usually gain a LoS on you because of your mooks, and with Mirror Damage he simply kills himself.
>>154204227
ToME.
>>154204309
She lets you pound the tab button.

>>154204072
>>154194314
someone aught to make a coffeebreak roguelike based on shit like this. I guess WTC Sewer Goblet is as close as it gets for the moment though.
http://www.talesofgames.com/related_game/the-sewer-goblet/

>>154204575
>>>/pol/

>>154204575
The problem is that almost every other active rl is fucking garbage.
There are a lot of faggets playing Demon tho, which is pretty great.

>>154204575
You forgot in /rlg/ now:
>Whiny stonerfags shitposting acting better than everyone else while their fedora fuses with their head

also K Y S F A M : ^ )

>>154204731
>The problem is that almost every other active rl is fucking garbage.
You are a part of why /rlg/ is shit.

>>154204778
>d-dont bully my custom edits or shitty remakes or uninspired meme game!

fuck you.

>>154204778
Crawl is shit too. The only rl i'm playing now is Demon because it's SMT but good.

Post some good rls on active dev then, you fucking cunt. Even IA went to shit.

>>154203689
Gorillaz pls leave.

>>154204896
You're only saying Demon is good because it's new and novel and your retard mind didn't get used to it yet.

>>154204896
I'm building a roguelike where it's open world with AI that learns and interacts with the player, environment and other NPCs. it's a bit glitchy though and sometimes children learn abilities they shouldn't have if they spend a lot of time around creatures of different species. See also a warrior's pet turtle learning Heavy Armor and Weapon Specialization: Maces. There are some bugs.

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>>154204575
>A red film seems to cover your eyes as (you) go berserk!
Also my memes are great and get reposted every thread. All me.

>>154204575
nice shitpost bait.

>""people"" who play roguelikes other than DCSS
Crawl is shit, but there are absolutely NO other roguelikes worth playing.

>>154205051
STOP ROLEPLAYING YOU FAG

>>154192353
If you saw the Kraken grapple your Dryad, why didn't you use your Wand of Beckoning to teleport the bastard out of the water?

Otherwise yeah, Kraken are horribly powerful and having to get anywhere near water is a nightmare there's no easy solution for.

>>154197629
Most Roguelikes are made by a small group of people and intended for a small group of people.

>>154204575
Newfag detected

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>>154205160

>>154205154
Stone of Sorrow is worth playing.

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Let's create a roguelike.
Just kidding.

>>154205441
Literally what? Is that a crawl fork?

>>154205557
>im a lazy sack of shit who can't even google
http://store.steampowered.com/app/373290/

>>154205335
There was a gorillion of people last thread asking the anon for more information and he never replied to anyone.
The learning npc roguelike is a hoax.

>>154205154
Poschengand is worth playing.

>>154205645
>he didnt reply
>he must not actually be a dev
or maybe he's actually doing other things besides being an autistic piece of shit in a garbage general? maybe if you fucking went to /agdg/ you'd see his posts there? nigga you dumb lol

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>>154205617
>steam

>>154205757
Have sex.

>>154205838
already fukkn ur mom lol :^)

>>154205757
No such posts in /agdg/.

Maybe the game is pretending to be a roguelike dev? Fun game, keep it up.

>>154205905
no

>>154205757
>go to /agdg/
>ctrl F "roguelike"
>some not a roguelike game
>okay
>ctrl F "learning"
>0 results
You got me.

>>154205914
warasu.org/search?=agdg+roguelike+ai+learning_datetime?=0000235909082016

Huh, that was easy to find.

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>>154205617
>steam
nigga miss me wit that gay shit

>>154206015
This is an elaborate ruse

>>154205914
>>154206012
>searching today's thread, not yesterday's thread
ok dumbass lmfao

>>154206101
:^)

>this thread turned into trolling
Can't wake up.

>>154206219
>turned into

>>154206219
Neo/rlg/ is kinda like that
Anime, pedophiles, Crawl and "if it isn't Crawl or FotM, it's shit"

>>154206219
litte babby cant handle the bants

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3a1CaMzPZU

>>154206365
Sounds pretty cool actually.

>>154206365
At least we don't have CataDDA furry faggots anymore.

>REAL /rlg/ HOURS

T:I am a legitimate game developer.
@:No you are not.
a:[posts anime girl]
X:Play this game on steam.
@:Fuck that game on steam.

>SMASH DAT MF LIKE BUTTON

>>154206637
Did someone say cataclysm: dog days ahead?

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>>154206714
>a:[posts anime girl]
Weaboo ants?

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>this entire thread
I hope the next potion i quaff is clorox

>>154206365
Stop pretending you're le oldfag. Crawl has ALWAYS been the most popular game on the general, from the very first threads

>>154206946
IWTFTA

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>>154205217
Because I'm dumb af.

I also splatted again on depth 22 because I was trying to trap a revenant on a higher floor but a squad of exploding furies got into the road. After exploding, I remembered I still had a tp scroll.

But hey, I reached more than depth 20 on 3 consecutive games, am I gitting gud?

>>154207025
>IM THE OLDEST ONE HERE GOD DAMNIT EVERYONE HAS TO LISTEN TO ME AND OBEY ME EXPLICITLY

eat shit gramps lmfao

>>154207025
It's hilarious because 4chan by nature despises things that are popular -- but all other roguelikes are unplayable garbage.

Hence the cycle of self-hating garbage in these threads.

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>>154207025
Your girl CRAWLed into bed with me yesterday.

I fucked her so hard she couldn't walk, she had to CRAWL

The reason DCSS is so popular here is because they're all pedos and the word CRAWL makes them think of babbys

>playing C:DDA
>playing the virtual jew

>>154207445
>popular here
you mean everywhere that roguelikes are discussed.

Because it is unarguably the best roguelike, as attested by its huge player base, rapid development, and the presence of mewling, puking contrarians in this thread

>>154207435
Roguelikes themselves are not popular though.
To the roguelite plebians we forever will be "those guys.

>>154207614
If you aren't playing the virtual jew, you are played by a real jew

>>154207747
REMOVE DEVIL

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>>154207801
>not choosing to be the jew
>letting reality cuck you
haha oh wow

>>154207747
Pedo detected

I'll take advantage of the current stream of shitposting to post this

foolz.fireden.net/tg/thread/8829690/

That's one of the fabled /tg/ crawl threads, the oldest surviving one in fact

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>>154207912
No-no, I'm the pedo guy, fellow /pol/tard, not that guy.

>>154176718
nethack is about planning out your future and thinking about what you're gonna do in the medium to long term

in crawl the longterm plans are just "i will train [useful skill] to a higher level", so the only real thinking is about muh tactics
but combat is way slower than e.g. sil or brogue and you end up pressing tab a billion times each fight

it's sort of like the tome problem where you get bored grinding through nonthreatening chaff and then get oneshot by an elite bone golem with archmage skills or something
except in dcss instead of onsehotting the chaff from a screen away you're pressing tab like 5+ times for each enemy JESUS CHRIST NONE OF THESE NAGAS ARE THREATING ALONE CAN I STOP FIGHTING 5000 OF THEM 2 AT A TIME AND JUST PICK UP THE RUNE ALREADY

>>154208026
Wow, it's even worse than what we have now.

>>154207912
>Pedo detected
Holy fuck, I think I got the correlation:
Crawl players are pedos

You don't see ADoM players turning ADoM characters into sexualized little girls
You don't see IVAN players talking about little girls' body parts
You don't see DDA players trying to get a "Child" trait into the game

It seems that in their haste to remove things, the devil team removed attraction to adults.
>playing the removal jew

>>154208387
>You don't see ADoM players turning ADoM characters into sexualized little girls
>You don't see IVAN players talking about little girls' body parts
>You don't see DDA players trying to get a "Child" trait into the game

If people actually played these games, you might see this

>>154208272
There aren't manchildren throwing up tantrums about muh anime and muh imaginary pedophiles out of nowhere, it's explicitly a crawl thread there's no meta shitposting, it's from 2010 so there aren't as many newfag crossboarders who think everything in 4chan is about shitposting and being ironic, so those are some points in favor of /tg/

>>154177210
play a ring mimic in PCB

you trick humanoids into wearing you and then mind control them into being your slave. then you get to cast evil ring magicks from their finger while they punch the dudes for you
you explore dungeons and absorb other (inanimate) jewelry to gain its powers, getting higher resistances and learning new spells and shit

>>154208387
It's too late >>154201381

What's wrong about being a pedophile again?

>>154208732
I think a good solution to this is filtering the word "pedophile"

>>154208496
Yeah, but /tg/ is also reddit incarnate, I'll take /a/utist shitposters over that any day.

>>154208732
they're unfairly appropriating Catholic culture

as a Cardinal I am deeply offended whenever a non-Catholic claims pedophilia

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>>154208917
Wait, but what about muslims?

>>154208976
They too are appropriating Catholic culture from the very beginning of their existence.

>>154208843
It was 2010 anon, that was 6 years ago. Before AUTISM became 4chan's favorite word, before the site had to tack on increasing layers of irony to keep its counterculture vibe, not so far to the times when you still could post with smileys or shit like EPIC completely earnestly and not get shit for it. No board except the really dead ones look the same way now as they did in 2010

Are there any good Catholic roguelikes?
Ones where you aren't allowed to worship demons, have gay sex or be a socialist.

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>evac shelter is located next to a mansion
easy mode as fuck

Well I made it to zot 1, and finally got blink on my earth elementalist. Would it be worth learning shroud of golubria at this point in the game? No idea how useful it actually is.

>>154189582
>>154189732
this is wrong

hyrdaform code specificallly checks for shit like gozag or being a vegetarian and doesn't give you nutrition. so it only helps if you could just kill the enemy and eat the chunks anyways

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>>154209257
>no gay sex
it's barely even a roguelike anymore at that point

>>154176578
Looking for a good, free, android roguelike. Suggestions?

>>154209775
Crawl.
Not even joking here, I tried Pixel Dungeon as well and crawldroid is more fun.

>>154196985
there's one fixed planet somewhere in the universe that has a shop selling disintegrators and super-high-tier armor from a crashed alien ship
you can get like 10 of them i think

>>154209656
Gay sex is a low value factor, according to Berlin Interpretation.

>>154209775
Read the pasta
tl;dr: Basically all of the very old "classic" roguelikes like nethack or angband are available. You have POWDER, Pixel Dungeon, and Hoplite. There's a crawl port available, or an app for webtiles. That's more or less everything worthwhile

but unless you have one of those phones from like 6 years ago that has a full physical keyboard, you will definitely enjoy the experience of playing desktop roguelikes on your phone

unless you pick crawl which can be played with only 2 buttons

>>154210051
But android crawl has full touch support :^)

>>154205063
Keep up the good work.

>will definitely enjoy
will definitely NOT enjoy, i mean

>>154209936
>angband
Neat. Maybe I'll get further than the floors with Smeagle this time!

>>154209280
Now try and crear the mansion without utterly destroying it
Good luck with hulks btw

>>154210498
>Only up to smeagle
Get out of here you normie faggot casual.

>>154208483
i'll bite.
>You don't see DDA players trying to get a "Child" trait into the game
There's a build with fucking sex-toys in it. This game is already kinda fucked.

>>154210510
Mansions only have basic zombies so they aren't even hard.

>>154210982
if you're using dynamic spawn

Redpill me on these games. Worth playing? Do they have good stories? Good interactions?
Or does it take a 'special' kind of person to 'get' them?

>>154211404
>Or does it take a 'special' kind of person to 'get' them?
Yes
Except for Crawl - this one can be played by an ape, assuming said ape can be taught to press 2 buttons.

>>154209454
No, Zot enemies will be doing too much damage unless you're really decked out with 30+ AC.

>>154211529
I figured it was a unique genre of games for those with special needs who can't handle to much visual/audio stimulation.

Good luck to all of you with your issues!

>>154211529
Amaze us apemen with your mastery of crawl

>>154211765
I had a hearty chuckle.

>>154211404
>good stories
>good interactions
>being so fucking stupid you don't "get" some videogames, even though 99% are literally designed so a child could play them

Honest question: Do you play videogames mainly for the story, or mainly for the gameplay?

>>154211404
>>154211529
>>154211765
The thing that really makes this work is that it's such a blatant samefag pointing it out is already lossing

>>154211768
Yred is my child waifu!
Tum tum!
What's wrong with sex with children?

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>>154211765
Well played, you bastard.

>>154211941
People like you make momentarily wish 4chan had more active moderation

This has been the worst thread in a while

>>154211583
Playing a gargoyle with 34 ac. Will give it a try.

>>154211941
Never fucking reply to me again.

>>154211404
if you're not already autistic:
a. why are you in /vg/
b. why are you in the roguelikes thread on /vg/

>>154212160
Yeah, the worst thing about pedophilia is people pointing it out. Epique.

Just finished lair, 15 points in earth magic but no iron shot/shatter yet. In the meantime, do i train hexes or air? I found both tornado and darkness/invis/mass confusion, and i'm a bit indecisive

>>154212341
I wonder why this general attracts this kind of autist

It would be funny if it happened like it did with ponyposter and all your posts were deleted so we could see what a sad sack you are, but that miracle was already too much to ask for

>>154212468
Transmutations > Charms / Air > Necromancy

>>154211896
>

>>154212317
Just because you are unable to try new things and ask those in the know about their experiences does not mean I have the same limitations you have. I was curious, I asked, and looking at the thread (and your response specifically) verified that only a 'special' person would get the most out of this.

>>154212580
Abloo abloo "autists" won't let me masturbate to sexualized children in peace

>>154212468
Neither. It isn't practical to train for a level 9 spell as a side project and only a few hexes are actually useful to characters who don't specialize in them, mostly the ones which don't need MR checks to work

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>>154212468
>>>>>>>>>>>hexes

>>154212726
It stops being witty once you repeat it too much, anon

>>154212468
If you are worshipping sif/vehu, you'll get shatter and iron shot soon enough so don't worry about it and just keep getting more earth so that you'll be able to cast them.

If you are worshipping chei or you are demigod you can do whatever you want since you have enough INT to cast anything, but keep in mind those spells require lots of investment, I wouldn't suggest to go for them for the moment.

Also as pointed by >>154212667 , you might want to get a bit of trasmutations, since statue form is incredibly strong (gives poison immunity, relec and rN, and also 30 AC without dropping your EV) and fairly easy to find.

>>154212964
I intend to repeat it in every thread that has autists posting their loli bullshit.

>>154212667
This doesn't make an ounce of sense
>>154212841
>>154212848
Then where do i dump all this exp? All my earth spells are at max power already
And i thought hexes were really strong, why isn't it so?

>>154209280
>>154210510
Some NPC near the mansion entrance robbed me at gunpoint. Fucker took my mp3 player. I found a shotgun in the mansion, ran into the woods to catch the thief and he shot me in the head. Zombies aren't the enemy, man is the real monster.

>>154213142
what game you running?

>>154213138
Hexes as a school are strong because it has a few strong spells, which actually aren't so useful for a squishy magic focused character for the most part

Most individual hexes are shit because they require MR checks and become steadily less useful as the game goes on

>>154213138
>This doesn't make an ounce of sense
What, are you a retart?

>>154212670
What a coincidence that you made that question and had to check about roguelikes in the worst thread we had since months

>>154213303
The most recent experimental build with NPC option turned on, no mod.

>>154209775
Pixel Dungeon is free and both decent-looking and easy to use, but the gameplay is kinda mediocre.

Hoplite is great but you'll see everything the free version has to offer after twenty runs or so.

Cardinal Quest is boring, Ananias is even worse. There is also Dweller and Legends of Yore, but I've never played those, so if you check them out go ahead and share your experience.

>>154213584
Do not reply to bait.

>>154213138
I'm gonna assume that you rely on spells to deal damage, since you haven't posted a screen. Basically, hexes require mana, you use that mana to hex some enemy, and then you don't have enough mana to actually kill it, and since you didn't train your meelee skills too much you can't kill them by tabbing before the hexes wear off. That's why you shouldn't care about hexes, topped by the fact that in late game enemies resist hexes a lot, and you are almost halfway.

>>154213584
It's your community. If you removed my question your 'quality community' by the looks of this thread would be talking about gays and pedo shit.

>>154213303
that's cataclysm:dda

if you do play with npcs turn them down to like 0.01 spawn rate or else your "zombie apocalypse" will be more about fighting random humans with shotguns than about zombies

>>154214536
But I want a lot of NPCs to spawn so I can befriend them and milk them for skill training. the occasional shotgun blast to the face is a small price to pay.

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Can anyone upload a compiled mpaPCB newest please?

>>154213383
An artifact that returns?

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>>154209837
Well you didn't lie. It was the human settlement special planet with the guy who buys alien art.

Also, if youre the anon who wrote to me yesterday about nonlethal xp farming. Can you set weapons to non-lethal or do you have to use disruptor rifles?

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Well, while exploring last level my first stair was one that lead right to Pikel. I put a bunch of exclusions on the stairs, on pikel's pack and around it, then went upstairs

I didn't use autoexplore or anything. Spiderform before every fight, identified all the scrolls I coud. Then one of pikel's slaves happened to wander off right where I was, and while kiting him dowan and duvessa came into view. I didn't see all the messages, but I think this is when a gnoll pack with mostly halberdiers and one guy with throwing nets came. Then Pikel himself found me. He had a whip of elec so no point in even trying to fight, putting dowan and the throwing net gnoll aside.

My only escape left was this stair, which led to 2 orc priests and a hound

I'm sure I fucked up somewhere, but I'm still annoyed

>>154216321
>what is Sticks to Snakes

>>154216408
I would have done that if it was just pikel or dowan and duvessa in a chokepoint, but I'm talking every direction had monsters on it and I'm not sure my low power s2s with mostly ball pythons would have done much

I survived by quaffing ambrosia, though

>>154211941
What Yred has to do with pedophilia??

>>154217417
Probably mistaken with Kiku.
Don't fucking reply to him ever again, he's turbo-autist.

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Fuck outta here

>>154195184
When did Vehumet work like that? Is that in trunk?

>>154217627
>Success! You failed
Shonky business roight there

>>154217867
Has been working like this for quite some time now. At least 5 versions.

This is all that person who associates the word tummy with pedophilia's fault.

>>154218391
You forgot your standard set insults: "autist", "manchild", "retard"

>>154218502
Put on a trip please, at this rate it'll be the same with the added convenience of being able to filter you

>>154217627
He successfully discovered he doesn't know what it is.

>>154218502
I don't need to insult him. Poor guy, he couldn't have known it would end like this.

>>154218615
But then I won't be able to cause massive butthurt in Catholic undesirables, which I enjoy causing.

Reminder that this isn't roguelikes

>>154215146

here

https://github.com/GenericPseudonym/pseudoelliposchengband/releases/tag/v5.0.0-mpa-2

>>154218756
You've been doing this for 3 hours straight on a weekday, and that's without counting your shitposting in all the recent threads

Please get in line to jack off with a sock like the rest of the NEETs with nothing better to do, it'll give you more reliable gratification than fishing for (You)s on 4chan

I have come to accept the fact that I much prefer Brogue, thanks to its total avoidance of classes/races and its attitude of "Just take with what the RNG gives you and make lemonade out of it".

I blame the Elder Scrolls and (modern) Fallout series for that.

I ascended in Brogue already. Are there any similar roguelikes?

>>154218391
im still here
this thread is still full of pedos

poor uskayaw :(

>>154219305
I have never played brogue and know nothing about it.
How it compensates for the lack of classes/races?
What gives it replayability?

>>154219305
The Ground Gives Way has similar "character progression only through items" but i don't think it's as good of a game

>>154219161
Sorry Mr. K. D. Diddler, but I have a mission - I need to stop normalization of sexualization of children within neckbeard culture.

>>154219435
You get a fixed amount of enchantment scrolls, food and potions of strength per game, always "enough" for you to win. You make a build by deciding how to allocate the enchantment scrolls - you can enchant basically any non-consumable piece of equipment. For example, you can make a "wizard" by focusing on offensive staves and the means to recharge them more quickly

>>154219663
What we really need to do is to send redditors to the gas chamber.

Just cleared the orb chamber in crawl. Playing a mage, would it be better to clear a more direct path through the breakable walls towards the staircase with LRD, or to gamble with random teleports? I have no idea how bad things are going to get when i pick up the orb.

>>154219435
It's totally gear-based

On one hand, you decide whether to invest in leveling up a mace or a staff or a dagger.

On the other, Brogue's potion system and dynamic environment mean that there are more ways to kill shit than just combat.

The thing about Brogue is you rarely feel OP, or at least not for long. So inventory managing is as vital as picking skills in other games.

It's a different breed of roguelike. Not everyone's cup of tea.

>>154220001
Redditors can wait, they don't cause rape.

>>154219663
>I need to stop normalization of sexualization of children within neckbeard culture.
>I do that on a sibeirian basket-weaving forum whose mascot is a literal child
You have already failed.

>>154219305
Forays into Norrendrin limits its customization system to items, 'shrines' (level features that must be found, and let you improve stats; sometimes you must choose) and some traits on level up.

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>An error occured
>The following details are provided

>W: https://crawl.develz.org/debian/dists/crawl/InRelease: Signature by key uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1)

>>154220373
Sinners need saving the most.

>>154220567
The cure is worse than the disease.

>>154220373
Yotsuba actually isn't sexualized

Yotsuba porn not existing/people asking for yotsuba porn used to be a meme

>>154220278
You're normalcuck subhumans and spam shitposts, so technically you're raping our site.

>>154215637
Not him, but you can just set your tactics to non-lethal. Don't get into melee though, since enemies are just "paralyzed" when sufficiently non-lethaled, they will still attack when adjacent. Or whenever if they have a ranged attack.

>>154220696
She isn't but lolifags still flock to weebshit.
This honestly has to be some kind of autistic roleplay/falseflag.

>>154220680
Said the fatty to avoid going for a jog+diet

>>154220843
No shit sherlock

>>154220123
The orb run is the easiest part of the game unless you get a panlord with a lvl9 spell or disto melee
If you really want to, use digging wands to clear a path through zot, and read a tp scroll before picking up the orb. Chances are that it's going to put you outside the lungs

>>154187117
>>154187802
>>154191985
>she

>>154220123
You might as well, anything to cut down on turns. Also go wild with consumables through the dungeon.

>>154217627
The alien-tech is something of a Schrodinger's Box: it isn't actually technology until you analyze it. Once you attempt to figure out what it is, a roll is made first to decide what the artifact is, and then whether you can figure it out. If the RNG happens to decide it's some kind of tech you already have, then the analysis roll automatically fails. This is a mercy, since you can still sell it to the companies/some planets, so it's not completely useless.

>>154221352
So what happened here?
The weird unspecified alien thing turned into a weird alien artifact?

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Well, there was a ton of OoD shit and a orc warrior so I got lethally poisoned by a water moccasin

Anything I can do or do I have no choice but lying down and dying?

I remember seeing someone post a custom 3ds .cia for some cool roguelike here before. Anybody have it by chance?

>>154220843
>lolifags flock to weebshit
you have cause and effect mixed up
weebs eventually all become pedos as a result of their exposure to anime
(anime artists are all already pedos)

>>154221554
Pretty much. Usually, it turns into something useful, like super-rebreathers, fuel-recyclers, a teleport platform, a targeting AI, etc.

>>154221554
yes, but it turned onto a weird alien artifact that anon already found once
a lot of them are permanent upgrades that do shit like enable you to recruit robot soldiers or boost the effectiveness of your engines or something

>>154221557
Polymorph yourself, hope for treeform

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>>154221860
God save the devs

>>154221557
Poly and hope that it'd morph you into something immune to poison like a wisp or a tree or into something with higher HD?

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>>154221004
You were totally right. The other time I had got to the orb chamber i tried the *out of date* strategy of apporting the orb and died soon after killing a demon unique. This time was really easy, thanks for helping with all of my dumb questions.

>>154222005
>can't use polywand on yourself anymore
That makes me sad.

>>154221602
i'm guessing POWDER?
i know it was originally designed for GBA

>>154222005
Lol they removed that? Ahahahahah

>>154222005
Read ID a bunch, maybe you'll get an acq scroll you can use to get potions or something

can you even acq potions

>>154222513
>Lol

>>154222585
I thought that too, that's when I knew I'd hit rock bottom. I did it anyways and sadly no D:7 acquirement scroll

>>154222365
Yes that's it, thank you. Couldn't remember the name.

I'm getting kind of pissed off with these demigods

I got forced into stairs AGAIN by a pack with 2 orc packs. I saw robin and thought good free xp, except she had a potion of invis and bodied me pretty hard even on spider form

>>154224389
>priests

>Easg saints now have censure instead of that one attack that can only be used on enemies with 50%+ their max HP.
I was not wary of that. I find zars somewhat expendable, anyway.

>>154224595
That pedo complainer again...

>>154224389
>what is threat assessment

There are 10,000 of them and only one of you, but you have something they don't. The ability to run away.

>>154224860
I did threat assess. I saw the threat and assessed that robin on D:4 with spider form at 21% failrate was less dangerous than going back to view of 2 orc priests or walking into unexplored terrain, because I didn't consider that maybe she had a potion of invis and would kill me anyways

>>154224737
Easg are the orc priests of Demon.
Fucking smite machines.

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>cutting vegetables into seeds
>apparently cut off some unrelated part instead
Survival 3, everyone.

>>154225235
I also lost a freybug. Given that they have a passive ability that can delay your turns, they're even nastier now, even if their go-to smite is somewhat weaker. The difference between 40 and 70 power attacks is actually rather noticeable.

>>154225257
The vegetable resisted your poking.

>>154189472
You can tell allies to focus on certain enemies in Demon just like in crawl. You can also ctrl+move to force your summoned allies to move with you, whereas crawl allows commanding allies to retreat. But Demon additionally allows desummoning to completely protect your allies, modifying their ability sets to change how the AI acts, and performing fusions to change your demons' resists and stats. Also, your demons can attack opponents when they or their enemies are out of LOS.

>>154219305
>I ascended in Brogue already. Are there any similar roguelikes?

>Forrays into Norrendin
>Sil
>DoomRL
>Infra Arcana

They're all pretty tightly designed.

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>>154219138
Thanks bruh.

>>154225606
I thought he was specifically asking about the rng character progression. At least 3 of those still have "level up and choose what you want to upgrade" systems, although i know nothing about Forays

>>154195447
post pic
my internet only allows me to browse 4chan

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>>154226210
Just for you

>>154226572
are those tits

>>154226892
I'm pretty sure those are pecs, anon

>>154226892
Baphomet has canon gyno, so probably yes.

>>154226892
Yeah. In art of that goat-headed figure, it does have titties.