/civ4xg/ - Civilization, Stellaris and 4X Games General

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Are there mods for SMAX? Which are the best ones?

can the ai move and shoot in civ6?

or is that still too hard to do for firaxis?:^)

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>be chilling out in my empire
>suddenly warmongers declare war on me
>defend my empire and my world by capturing their cities and wiping them out
>somehow I'M the bad guy

>>153746632
>defend my empire and my world by capturing their cities and wiping them out
>and wiping them out
>somehow I'M the bad guy

Yeah dumbass, it's called genocide.

>>153746632
Think of it like this: if somebody kicks you in the shins, strangling them to death for it will cause people to be wary of you.

>>153746482
turboSMAC

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What is the perfect balance of basic resources in 4x games?

Just money and materials or production like Civ and Stellaris?
Extremely long list of very specific materials like gold, copper, specific gases such as in Distant worlds?

What's a good in between?

>>153747334
Gold, Stone,Wood, meat.

>>153747334
I'd say 4 ressources is okay.
A "normal" ressources that is always needed to create units (food), a basic building ressources needed for low-tier buildings and basic military units (wood), advanced ressource that is fairly rare but can be used for all advanced stuff (gold), and an advanced building ressource only used for defense/wonders (stone) is the best balance in my opinion.

Games with only one ressources like 8-bits army are usually shit and shallow, games with two ressources are more about balancing ressources, games with 3-4 ressources allow interesting strategies.

>>153747334
I think the least you can do is go with production that decreases time like in civ, aow, mom, and presumably others.

Gold is good, but not necessary for upkeep of units.
Civ2 had gold for building upkeep, and had no upkeep for units. Units siphoned production from their home city depending on government.
1 shield for every unit over 3 if you were Monarchy/Communism/Despotism. Over 10 if you were Fundamentalist.
Every unit if you were Rebuplic/Democracy.

AoW had production, gold upkeep and a gold cost of producing the unit. I think that works, but at least 1-2 didn't have a lot of infrastructure or economic build up of cities.

Production "Resource"+Gold+Strategic Resource is fine.
But I think I'd prefer Production+Gold+Strategic+Material X+Material Y+etc.

>>153747334
>Extremely long list of very specific materials like gold, copper, specific gases such as in Distant worlds?
This.

>>153747763
>Civ2 had gold for building upkeep, and had no upkeep for units. Units siphoned production from their home city depending on government.

This seems cool as shit.

Why can't this be the current civ model? It also prevents you from just cranking out a million units in a single capital city, while still giving interesting alternatives for tall/small empires (small empires can produce more units but their cities will be devastated during, meanwhile tall cities can have a few units but will still chug along)

>>153749746
It's a pain in the dick to have per-city maintenance and it doesn't model modern armies very well. A modern nation-state's army isn't really supported by a dozen cities, it's sort of supported by one or two cities (which themselves are usually just a civilian sprawl attached to a military base in some capacity) with the rest of the cities sending material / manpower.

It's also not really accurate for pre-modern warfare, since even though military units were supported by cities, they also sort of supported themselves through looting.

>Bought Stellaris last night
>Created my own Transhuman Nation
>Playing until 13:00 today, no sleep, no breakfast
>Tried to liberate my closest neighbouring system
>Similar fleet size, but engaging their spaceport first was a terrible idea
>Lost fleet during several retreats and the enemy kept spawning ships at a ludicrous rate
>Had to evacuate with a colony ship and a handful of civilian ships beyond the frontier of my other neighbour (almost 90% similar to me, except being a molluscoid)
>The enemy liberated my homeworlds and they are allied together
>Now I'm rebuilding and perhaps raising another pre-space civilization to help me

I love this game, despite of the bugs

I wish I could have fighted till my homeworlds were destroyed. Better fighting one enemy than two.

Paradox game are on sale this weekend. Which one is better, the original warlock or warlock 2 ? They both cost the same price but warlock 2 have a lot of negative review.

>>153750647
Stopped caring about warlock after I saw the first video of it.
First I heard something about "spiritual successor to master of magic", but then it just looked like magic fantasy civ5.

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how does this work? i have higher tourism but on deity don't know if this effects it, do i just hope the celts pick freedom or switch now?

disadvantages of picking ideology first...

Anyone know how Anomalies function?

Are they all generated at the start and then you have a chance to discover them?

Do they spawn if you just roll well enough with your scientist while surveying?

>>153751150
Higher tourism doesn't matter.

What matters is your tourism/culture modifer versus theirs.

So if you are both Exotic to eachother.
There's no change.
If they are Exotic to you, and you are Unknown to them.
Then you suffer.

I assume they've had Tourism push at you for longer and only recently got #2 in tourism?


I don't remember the cut offs, maybe 10% for exotic?

So when you've accumulated(over all turns that you have been in contact with them) Tourism equal to 10% of their accumulated(over all turns period) culture, then you'll be Exotic with them.

So essentially it's YourTourism/TheirCulture vs TheirTourism/YourCulture, but stratified.

>>153750783
It look like civ with better combat, with the few video I saw I think it's spending 6€ to try it. Look like the second one have a lot of balance issue so I'll try the first one I think.

Would you consider it unethical to colonize the moon of a pre ftl species?
Unethical to even colonizing their system?

Did anyone here try polaris sector?

>>153752696
planet in their system no, moon maybe, depends how far along they are. If they have left orbit, then moon: yes.

>>153752696
Well, I wouldn't say that colonizing any land that isn't already claimed by that species is really unethical
But something like an FTL ayy colonizing Eris would definitely be a bit of a concern to us
Likewise, ayys mining the asteroid belt would also be fairly alarming, and colonizing our Moon would be enough to start a war, though I'd imagine we'd make our own claims to various parts of the solar system long before it even gets to that point anyway

The Erresëa Assembly needs to expand
Purple = My Territory
White = Unclaimed Space with habitable planets, but they're too far away, at best like 800-900 influence to colonize.

I have 3 species.
Continental, Ocean and Arid.
I don't have mutants yet so I could land with my main species on a Tropical, Arctic or Desert world and get new species with that habitat.
Or just mod them when they land but that's not as fun.

Orange is risky since there's a xenophobic fallen empire up there.
Would be nice to terraform those to arid mining worlds.
My Arid Species are uplifted proles.

theres already a first almost EXPANSION for stellaris coming, any idea when release?

>>153751234
If you are talking about Stellaris, your scientific leader can increase the chance of discovery if he has the proper perk.

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>>153754408

>>153752696
My phylosophy is observing ancient civilizations, perhaps industrial too, and raising atomic age and modern civilizations. They already have their moral values given their history.

>>153754470
Doesn't really answer the question.

>>153754705
Yeah, but that's the closest to answer it. You can't see the anomalies but that's the only way to increase the chances of discovery.

>>153752838
Personally my view is that a races home system is really the only thing they're entitled to by right. Everything else is, essentially, up for grabs. There's only two ways you can go about colonising a sentient species home system ethically (short of full on invasion Caveman vs Lasers style)

>1 Guardian Angel
Generally only ethical (in my opinion, not from a mechanic stance) for any civilization at the pre-industrial stage. The rest of the system is yours for all intents and purposes. You do not intend to uplift this race, be it adverse ethics or a non-intervention belief, the resources/colony is simply a trade-off for you ensuring this young race continues its development without the risk of falling prey to the myriad dangers of cosmic fate or power hungry empires.

> Beneficent Older Brother
Really only viable if they share values not diametrically opposed to your own.

Colonise the system and establish mining posts as permissible. Uplift the race to join you on the galactic stage. Once trust has built up enough you gift the system to them.

If the colony is by this point major (14+ tiles or something) perhaps an alternative recompense is to transfer them another system.
>>153753709
How would we feel if we discovered such operations have been going on undetected since we split the atom?

>>153754991
Well, stealth in space is pretty much nonexistent
So unless they somehow have a way of doing that, which might not be entirely unreasonable given that they're assumed to have FTL technomagic anyway, there's no way we wouldn't know that the solar system's already crawling with ayys
And even with technomagic radiation cloaking shit, there's still no way they could touch the Moon or Mars without us knowing

>>153755364
>Well, stealth in space is pretty much nonexistent
Small probes hidden behind meteors.

Meteor showers are ayynvasions.

>>153755507
Well, a typical meteor shower, probably not
But the Chelyabinsk meteor could be a possibility

Though, now that I think about it, it would probably be pretty difficult to detect any satayylites that are in low Solar orbit, as long as there aren't too many of them

Which tech gives you Teldar Plant?

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Cool

If I've never played either before, should I try out Sword of the Stars II or Complete?

>>153758297
2 seems to be regarded as utter shit for some reason, although I've never tried it myself. The first is very good though.

>>153758392
I know it's regarded that way, but I was under the impression that it got better after launch.

>>153758297
THE FIRST

>>153758297
>>153758392
>>153758453

Complete.

2's just broken in ways that are not engaging; poor UI, bad economy, AI that bankrupts itself, gamecrashing bugs forever. It actually almost sort of got better before the expansion and then it just fell down the gutter.

It does have a shiny engine and I almost wish there was just a standalone for the battles, but as a package I can't recommend it.

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Is there a way to edit Cruisers and Battleships speeds in Stellaris' ini file or a mod? they move too slow for my liking

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>>153752696
yes

t. hardworking Eywa-fearing moondweller

>>153752696
Well you can establish a base there. Just don't genocide the natives and take their place.

>>153760490
Why not? What's the point of being an Empire if you can't be a dick?

is 'Thea: The Awakening' any good? or at least worth a pirate?

>>153760643
You'd think it was fair play for an empire to arrive in our solar system and genocide us?

>>153760925
It's fun.

>>153760932
Given how we're still not colonizing Mars, yeah. We could've already started that, and instead we're fighting each others in the name of some imaginary friend.

>>153761098
We got robots on Mars, we called dibs first.

>>153761183
We ain't got farms. I don't think we even have a space station working since they closed Mir.

And I heard we get more and more space debris orbiting the planet. We'll end up being unable to throw anything in orbit at this rate.

>>153760932
>>153761183
>>153761098
Literally who cares tier
Someone who came from outside the solar system with conquest equipment has a technological gap of incomprehensible levels they may as well be gods

>>153761378
The ISS is still working.

>>153761391
Oh dear god, not the retarded Ancient Alien theory again.
I watched that shit once, I felt like I broke three ribs laughing.

>>153760925
It's worth to pay full price for it. Pirate the game (the demo is the early access version) if you want, but buy it afterwards if you like it. Thanks to the semi-random elements (only two unlocked starting Deities, re-generated map every start, tons of events) you won't be bored. It recently got a massive free (!) DLC.

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>>153761510
>Ancient Alien
What are you on about what is this theory? I'm saying that anyone who can come from outside our own solar system with the intention of conquest and an 'empire' capable of interstellar government is so far beyond our capabilities that they're effectively divine
Like look at this shit. This is a single terrestrial phenomenon and all of the world's nukes combined can't defeat it over the course of its lifetime. If its power were actually applied like a bomb it could sweep France clean and the Earth generates a bunch of these things every year just by basking in the sun and spinning slowly.
They could shatter the planet outright if they felt like it.

>>153761862
It's not a theory, it's a TV show masquerading as a documentary.

I think it's called Alien Theories in the US, but we call it Ancient Alien in my country because of some retarded reason.
Kinda like "The Purge" was renamed "American Nightmare".

>>153761391
Well, I'd say it'd be comparable to the tech gap between European settlers and the various indigenous peoples they displaced
The difference between a situation with FTL ayys and us being that we recognize the significance of their tech and would be scrambling to get ahold of their shit and reverse engineering it, so unless they made an active effort to prevent that, we wouldn't stay a non-FTL species for very long

>>153759738
/stellaris/common/ship_sizes/00_ship_sizes

This is probably reverted back every update so I recommend looking into creating a mod for your own stuff.

>>153762016
No you really don't get it. They could just shoot one of the smaller ships at us in interstellar travel mode and the planet is gone. Just GONE.

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Playing Stellaris
>Make my transport fleet follow my battleship fleet because it's annoying as fuck having to babysit them every single time when a system is cleared and it would be faster to just have them following the fleet for immediate landing after they bombard the shit out of the target.
>Everything going well, now I just have to worry about telling the fleets where to go
>Suddenly the transport fleet warps BEFORE the battleship fleet despite being set to FOLLOW them.
>Get obliterated at the destination while the fleet they were supposedly following arrives

This game is fucking garbage. You need to babysit every little detail of everything you do, the AI is trash and can't do anything. No wonder the game is so easy considering the AI is so bad at it.

>>153762079
What's the point?

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>>153762219
>Playing Stellaris

>>153762225
The point is that they could also rebuild the planet if they felt like it. Even without brute force they could drop a 3km asteroid on us and cause nigh-extinction then come in a clean up the mess, the Earth will recover.

>>153762079
Well, that'd really depend on what method of FTL travel they use
Most likely they'd use some sort of physics loophole that doesn't require them to actually travel at superluminal speeds, ie, wormholes or something like an Alcubierre drive or some other crazy quantum shitstorm

>>153757551
What do they look like?

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>>153762478

>>153762341
Whatever method they use, as long as they're traveling at a good fraction of the speed of light (15+ %, maybe), an asteroid-sized ship could easily obliterate the planet.
Man I fucking hate interstellar sci-fi wars if we want power why don't we just be fantasy

>>153762562
geez, no wonder they're fanatical pacifists.

>>153762562
>Originally tundra inhabitants
There's not much difference between what a tundra world and a nuclear winter world would be like besides radiation (which goes away quickly).

>>153762712
I think they adopted my ethics since they're the exact same.

>>153762603
If they're exploiting a loophole, I'd doubt they'd bother even accelerating the craft at any fraction of lightspeed, since it'd probably still be just as difficult for them to do that as it is for us

The whole argument's probably null anyways, as FTL is probably impossible and most space-faring species will likely end up uploading themselves into a VR simulation and living out the rest of their lives in a giant server before their sun starts shitting itself and melts said server
Which will probably be our fate as well

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>>153762861
>He is a fanatic pacifist

>>153762937
Sounds comfy as fuck
Maybe we'll just have shit like backups of the server on every planet and robots that basically spread the servers like a cancer to other planets so they can be backups forever
Also fuck thermodynamics, lossless cycle where are you?

>>153762937
>uploading themselves into a VR simulation
Not this shit again. This is as impossible and retarded as FTL travel and will never happen.

>>153763116
It's not theoretically impossible (and neither is FTL actually given some theoretical material). As long as you have a set of programs capable of modifying itself and this set of programs is able to more or less be standalone in its perception and self-modification you have a human mind, unless what you're saying is that there exists a soul or something in which case you just have to trap the soul/

>>153763116
>This is as impossible and retarded as FTL travel and will never happen.
It's basically what VR is right now though. Just add the all five senses and disable movement of the actual body. The simulated world can run on whatever.

>>153763270
>As long as you have a set of programs capable of modifying itself
We have tried this and so far it just doesn't work.
>this set of programs is able to more or less be standalone in its perception and self-modification
>more or less
No
> you have a human mind
No
>unless what you're saying is that there exists a soul or something in which case you just have to trap the soul/
I don't really believe in the concept of a soul but if there was one by its own nature it would be impossible to "trap".

Now let's assume for a moment all this stuff worked: you'd just be killing yourself and uploading a copy of your brain to the VR. Or living on while your copy lives in the VR. What's the point? You'd still live outside of it and die.

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I don't even know what kind of leaders I want anymore.

Last election I saved an admiral, an of course he was elected.
Maybe another Admiral(Aggresive?) and another governor(Architect or Book nerd).

>>153763391
>It's basically what VR is right now though.
>Wearing glasses and playing games on a controller is basically the same as living in a simulated world.
Dude.

>>153763623
>We have tried this and so far it just doesn't work.
We've tried to devise some form of tactic to beat the Carthaginian navy and it just doesn't work
t. Roman, First Punic War

>No
>No
Well okay.

>you'd just be killing yourself and uploading a copy of your brain to the VR. Or living on while your copy lives in the VR. What's the point? You'd still live outside of it and die.
You could argue that the person I was three seconds ago died. This discussion leaves the realm of science and enters the realm of philosophy and the question of "Who am I", which is something else entirely.

I am not saying it'll work right now and I'm not saying it'll ever work but your main objection comes down to 'we haven't gotten it to work so far' (there is literally nothing about the nature of information that disallows this) and a philosophical problem of who the 'self' really is, you can't say 'impossible'.

>>153763874
>jack an iv into your arm or something
>include all five sense for simulation
>play forevermore

>>153764143
A person's mind is contained in your brain. Your brain is not just "information". Your brain is made up of tens of thousands of different types of chemical compounds interacting in extremely complex ways. That is your mind. It's not just a matrix of on-off switches, it's more complex than that. The human mind is not some indefinite mass of magic that you can just rewrite into code and upload into some server, its very foundation is completely different from the structure of digital information.
>Philosophy
Quite irrelevant in this discussion. Philosophy won't suddenly loophole your self into being some intangible thing. Your brain is what makes up your self. You can't separate "brain" from "self". And the "self" gets mutilated just like any other body part when you damage the brain. Kill your brain and you kill your self. There's no "soul" there you can extract, compile into code and upload to some magical server made up of stuff that doesn't exist.

>We've tried to devise some form of tactic to beat the Carthaginian navy and it just doesn't work
If what you're trying to say is "just because we don't know if it works now doesn't mean we won't find a solution later", it's not that simple. Here we're dealing with the very limits of physics, biology and information theory. You can't just bruteforce these.

>>153764736
>jack an iv into your arm or something
>magic
>play forevermore
You are dumb and you've got no idea what you're talking about.

>>153765161
>Your brain is made up of tens of thousands of different types of chemical compounds interacting in extremely complex ways. That is your mind. It's not just a matrix of on-off switches, it's more complex than that.
Irrelevant, because the matrix of on-off switches is meant to be the ultimate reduction of information, not the actual form of it. We can reduce almost all other physical phenomenon to this matrix (to a set of (complex) equations and then to a grid of on-off), the brain is not special here.

>Quite irrelevant in this discussion.
Oh it is though, because this concerns the fundamental nature of consciousness. That being said it's 3AM, I haven't slept for almost 48 hours at this point and I'm getting hit with exhaustion all at once. Goodbye.

>>153765516
>the brain is not special here
Hardly a problem of being special or not. It's a problem of scale and scope. Let's ignore for a moment the limitations of physics and we get your magical computer with infinite storage space, infinite lifespan and infinite processing power. Now MAYBE we would be able to sort of simulate a brain if we understood brains perfectly. However, how in the fuck do you "scan" your brain in order to reproduce it in the computer, in an instant, all at once? I can't even begin to imagine any way this could be accomplished with any present or future technology we have thought of. Even FTL seems easier to do than this because lol quantum physics that we still don't fully understand.

>Oh it is though, because this concerns the fundamental nature of consciousness.
Mind is brain. Brain is matter. Your mind is matter. There that didn't take a lengthy metaphysics bullshit rant.

>Attila at -559 gold per turn
What is wrong with civ 5 ai?

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Is there a mod or cheat that lets me unlock a specific technology? I'd like to make battleship right off the bat but have nothing but small weapons and see how long that lasts me before the AI catches up in tech.

>>153768781
§ = opens console

I don't know one that unlocks a specific technology.
Only one that unlocks all technologies.

research_technologies

You could use that.
Put Instant_build on, build 1 battleship with your basic weapons, and then use research_technologies to get rid of your techs I think.

Or do you want to be able to build more battleships?

>>153769168
I just want the battleship tech unlocked and nothing else, I just wanna play as the Colonials from Galactica and build big, expensive ships. Usually when I unlock them in a regular game its become stale and boring.

>>153747334
I kind of like the way Stellaris does it. Energy and Minerals, plus a long list of specific materials for special buildings. Shogun 2 did it like this too.

>>153769625
Can't find any console command for that I'm afraid.


Best way to do it legit would be Intelligent+Natural Engineers I think, Engineering Research Grants, beeline engineering labs and only build those and then beeline battleships.

>>153769809
Funny enough those are the exact traits I gave my custom empire. I guess I'll fiddle around with the .ini file and see what happens.

>>153751537
How do you get culture that is even close to the AI? I'm always vastly behind in culture even when getting all 3 guilds early

>>153770532
>How do you get culture that is even close to the AI?
wide

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>Take all the Research bonuses I can
>Fanatic Materalist, intelligent, natural engineers, ect.
>Tech up as hard as I can
>Focus on generating as much research
>Check my neighbor that has none of those
>Equivalent tech

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>>153747334
FIDS
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>>153771565
>DESTRUCTIVE ANAL
Is that a mod or just an unfortunate shortening?

>>153771565
>DESTRUCTIVE ANAL
Hahaha what?

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>>153752696
No pagan xeno has any right to deny god's chosen people their promised celestial bodies!

How many battleship classes do you have?

I have 4.
One with each aura, and one without to make room for more defense and reduce cost.

Thinking 6 might be better, so later on when I am at fleet cap I can add auras to the 3 without.

>>153747763
>>153749746
SMAC also has that and it works pretty well.

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>>153771738
>>153771776
>just an unfortunate shortening
yes

whats the best way to replay HOMM3?
there isnt really any general on vg that I couldve gone with this

>>153771738
>>153771776
new
welcomepleasestayanddontforgeto"roll"whenyousethethreadonpage10

>>153771371
>go to war with neighbor
>has equivalent fleet capacity but inferior tech and fleet size
>entire fleet is cruisers and battleships with arc weapons and photon torpedo's

well ok then.

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>>153771976
I have 2 classes so far, one with flak batteries covering it for fleet protection along with missile batteries. My other one has kinetic artillery and bomber squadrons. I'm not sure what I would do for a 3rd because my cruisers can do everything else.

>>153772509
Make at least one with 6 L weapons because that's about all Battleships are good for. Sometimes auras too.

>>153771976
One. It has tachyon lances. I win every single battles with fleets made just of those. There is literally no point to building anything else.

>>153772104
I like Reclamation.
There's only like one custom map I've downloaded I like, a map of africa with some humble underground caverns.
Got enough asymmetry to make it interesting.

>>153772509
One more for the last aura maybe?

>>153772797
It's probably still a good idea to have at least one dedicated to the defensive auras. I've noticed the offensive auras are kind of pointless because battleships are never in range for them.

>>153772104
The hell is HoMM3?

>>153773081
Which one is it? The one I put on the stations?

>>153773186
Yeah usually I go with the Hull regen aura and the Shield regen. They do go a long way for suvivability and reduces the need to go back to repair.

>>153773103
pls

>>153773284
Makes sense. I'll make two classes for those, thank you.

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Would be nice if I got some extra lore on events like this now that I've actually found survivors in a vault.

>>153773893
Also weird.
Those unhappy guys have like 70% ethics divergence.
Saw no change in ethics over like 5 months, figured it changed yearly.
Come new year and none of them changed ethics anyway.

made a save before the year, I'll load to see if I was just lucky.

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These guys must've just recently reached FTL and the Qlorvinserian Coalition and its allies decided to free the shit out of them because the new guys are collectivists.

>>153770662
Going wide increases the policy cost though? and AI are always above me in social policies mid/late game

>>153775814
it increasing policy cost yes, but the tourism thing only cares about raw culture output

>>153775814
What the other guy said, and you don't necessarily fall behind in polices as wide either.
Yes the cost goes up, but you also get more culture.

I don't fall behind in policies when I go wide.

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>>153772104
>whats the best way to replay HOMM3?
ERA
Horn of the Abyss
In the Wake of Gods

>>153776263
>In the Wake of Gods
ew

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>>153776330
>muh balance
phew

>>153776435
>>153776263
That game looks fun. What's the name?

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>>153776581
The "In the Wake of Gods" mod for HoMM3.

>>153772797
I desperately hope that the devs fix this shit, until then I'll be working on my shitty mod.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=719794488

So how about dem endless spaces?

What is the best race in AoE2?

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>>153778010
>AoE2

Japanese, Goths, Huns

I want spies in Stellaris.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onR7PD3Grc0

>>153776787
>-Removed Lances from standard empire research, you should be able to get them from Fallen empires and the vanilla event.
That alone might make things a bit more reasonable desu.

I guess Emitters would replace them, but it wouldn't be quite as bad.

Good luck anyways.

>>153778314
Cheers, The whole thing is going to be a pain to balance right but it should be okish atm.

Also, moddable fields of fire is coming in 1.3.

So admittedly im bad at Civ 5. I only play on relatively lower difficulties and I focus on building extremely tall (2-4 cities tops) and liked doing single city matches for fun. Obviously this most likely isn't going to fly in Civ 6. How do I get into the mindset or managing all those different buildings for each, how do I know when to restrict growth, and how to maintain that many units?

>>153779905
>Obviously this most likely isn't going to fly in Civ 6.
Why? The districts would even help with tall empires.

>>153780370
Isnt every city gonna be stocked with districts anyway? I see no downside not to sprawl in Civ 6 considering the change to happiness as well. Plus having wonders take up a tile means even more reason to plant new cities since having a focus on production in one still wont let you hold many.

>>153779905
Be aware of what you need and have a general, but adaptive build order in mind.
Managing all those different buildings really isn't that hard.
4 cities, 20, not much of a difference.
Just a few more clicks.

I settle a new city, I start building a monument, I purchase a pagoa.
At that moment I have 2 local happiness and suffer no extra penalty from having 2 pop in the city.
I probably have other cities that produce units and I can get warrior caste in the city.
That means it can grow to 3 pop without extra unhappiness. in most circumstances I want the city to grow, even if I stop at 3 the granary might let me work more hills.
BNW nerfed later culture buildings for wide so I won't go for amphitheatre.
If I'm starting to go low on gold I might make a market, or a paper maker if I'm chinese.

So I checked HoMM3 HD on Steam and most of the reviews are negative. Apparently, it doesn't include the expansions.

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>>153782235
Get HoMM3 regular on GOG.

>>153782419
BATTLE STATION OPERATIONAL

>>153782235
Yep.
Don't get HD. It sucks.

>>153782419
Is HoMM3 hard? I walked over HoMM4 while the fifth kicked my ass.

Give me some good (fun) leaders to play as In Civ IV

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>>153782606
>I walked over HoMM4
Naturally, heroes were literally immortal after a few levels.

HoMM3 will wreck you.

>>153782606
I think homm3 is fairly easy.
Homm2 is harder imo. In homm3 you can quite often find yourself with enough money to buy every dwelling, or pretty much every dwelling each week.
In homm2 you might not be able to afford all of your T6 each week even.

>>153782661
>Insult
Come on do it.

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>>153782832
Naeh

>>153782661
call him a faget.

When you consider tile blockers terraforming at least 1 step isn't so expensive.

1500 energy to terraform.
800 minerals and 800 energy to remove tile blockers for this one planet I'm looking at.

Tile blocker removal can be mitigated by governors though.

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Paradox sale on steam.

I have Stellaris and not much else, what do you guys recommend?

Inb4
>paying for things

https://youtu.be/hvtvjo3fPsQ
Jesus fuck why would they put this shit in the base game. Can't they put the literal who diversity into a single dlc instead?

>>153771371
There has to be a pretty significant difference before it is recognised I think.

>>153788081
Depends. If you want Incest Simulator, get Crusader Kings 2. If you want Blob Simulator, get Europa Universalis IV. If you want to hack 'n' slash, get Mount and Blade Warband. If you want to feel robbed, get Sengoku. If you have friends and a good sense of humor, get Magicka.

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civ 6 honestly looks really pretty when you see screenshots like this

Is there any map/mod for Civ 5 that's similar to Rhye's map for Civ 4?

Kongo looks pretty interesting.

>>153788081
>>153788286
Magicka 1, not 2.

I think Eu4 is fun for mp.
Either coop mp or competitive mp.
m&b is awesome.

>>153789093
There was a second game?

Also, not all M&B are good. Warband is the best and has the most mods.

>>153789490
>There was a second game?
Yeah, but it wasn't made by the same dev and it got some bad reviews.
I don't remember exactly what was wrong with it though.

>>153788136
They always put a non-Egyptian African civ in the base game, they just started changing it from the Zulu after Civ 3.

>>153790014
Kongo makes more sense than Zulu desu.

Civ ability: Nkisi- Gets Food, Production, and Gold from each Artifact, Relic, and Great Work of Sculpture. Gets extra Great Artist and Great Merchant Points each turn.

Leader ability: Mvemba a Nzinga cannot build Holy Site districts, but gets the Founder Beliefs of the religion established in the majority of his cities. Gets a free Apostle any time he finishes an Mbanza or Theater District in a city following that religion.

Civ unique unit: Ngao Mbeba - Extra Defense against Ranged Attacks, Woods and Rainforests neither cost extra movement nor block their line of sight. Does not require Iron to build.

Civ unique district: Mbanza - Replaces the Neighborhood and can be built earlier in the game. Provides Housing, Food and Gold.

AYO HOLD UP

>>153790753
meme free zone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvtvjo3fPsQ

WE

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>>153790014
>tfw still no Namibia / Kingdom of Kush

Is Stellaris fixed, yet?

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>>153774760
Sucks being new in this galaxy

>>153788778
This looks uncommonly detailed for a civ6 screenshot..

>>153790951
Kongo is a good choice.

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>Stellaris is on sale
>Plantoids are still $8

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any potential for we wuz queenz n shieet?

which civs would it be?

>>153794318
As in black female ruler?

Do you offer protectorate status?
If so to who?

>>153794318
The areas south of Egypt had black queens, though as far as I know noone can really confirm wether they were matriarchal, matrilineal or actually just didn't give a fuck and let the firstborn child inherit the throne.

The Egyptians traded with them, intermarried (this is where the 'muh black pharaohs' comes from) and IIRC at one point some Pharaoh actually fled there when lower Egypt was overrun by invaders.

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Finally, my physics research is higher than my society research.

>>153797339
congrats, you're a real boy now

>>153798925
thank you

>>153797339

Which research is the best to max out?

>>153800687
Physics probably.

Because lances and power for ships.
Even without building a single engineering lab I feel like I get the important stuff in engineering quick enough anyways.
Devastator Torpedoes come fairly quick.

There's a lot of stuff I like in Society so I started out building biolabs.
Then after I had all the genmodding techs I uplifted a species that I built physics labs for.

>>153801132
Engineering can be a huge RNG clusterfuck.

I generally keep physics and engineering equal, because you need those better hulls to carry your better lasers.

One of the reasons why lasers (and other energy weapons) are so strong is that your weapon tech does not hog the same research slots as the ship hulls.

But don't just ignore bio reseearch. These are the techs that let your expand quicker.

I haven't played stellaris in a while, is rangefinder still necessary to prevent ships with point defense from charging into combat?

Is CBP tougher than vanilla? Because I'm getting my ass kicked repeatedly by the AI on immortal. That is unusual.

Have they added anything to stellaris thats worth coming back for?

Quit it like 5 months ago.

>>153806661
I don't play it but this is perhaps the most common question on /4xg/. It comes up multiple times every day.

The answer is always no.

>>153772013
Speaking of SMAC, are there any other 4x games with crawler like units, or is that level of brokenness unique?

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kek, my citizens haven't been happy for like 100 turns

>>153809797
IIRC similar things exist in earlier Civilization titles, it took a while before developers realized how abusable that mechanic was.

>>153812382
caravans were straight op in 2

>>153814823
Yeah, the question isn't so much "What other games have caravans like SMAC" but rather. "Why did every 4x game in the 90s have such a horribly OP mechanic?"

good night

>>153805829
Yes, but I don't remember the exact correlation
Perhaps they aimed for CBP 6=settler 8-starting bonus techs, but I can't exactly provide a quote.

>>153750617
>Same match, much more time afterwards

>We erradicate my old enemies and their transhuman rebels. Basically, With their last colonies, I make a second transhuman faction and fed them with resources since we are allied.

>Tried to repeat the same maneuver with other races to make a Federation. But my mate always votes No to now allies in our federation.

>Get your shit together mate, we are making the Galaxy great again.

>>153815493
SMAC has caravans?

>>153819613
Besides crawlers, I mean.

>>153819613
You can establish trade routes between cities with supply crawlers.
I have no idea what that actually does though.

>>153805648
I don't think they currently do it. Maybe it's because right now nobody lives long enough to do so.

What does a Federation actually -do-? Just trying to see if there is any reason for a collection of alliances to form a federation.

Basically every species that isn't being torn apart by the collective of evangelical zealots is begging to join our so-far untouched alliance. Went from two members to four in a couple of months.

>>153820673

Literally nothing except fucking over the player bevause diplomacy is so fucked up in stellaris. You can pay off other empires to join your wars anyway, so there is literally no reason to tie yourself down.

>>153802906
All weapons should be physics desu. I associate engineering with hulls and armor, and physics with weapons and shields.

Of course this then creates the problem of shields potentially falling by the wayside because theyre smashed between every weapon type and reactors.

I think the only solution is really to turn sociology into something else and redistribute all the techs.

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>>153812189
fuck your culture indonesia

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>>153821489
over 1000 tourism

>>153821574
Maybe if you weren't a filthy autocrat your people would like you.

I'm about to go turboautist and make a spreadsheet with effective HP builds on Stellaris.

Before I do, has someone already done this before?

>>153821764
they'll come around

>>153821574
Tourism doesn't have to do with anything. You suffer from War Weariness.

>>153821097
Blast. How does a federation screw you over anymore than a multi-alliance does?

>>153822609

Are you a literal moron or just missed out the rotating presidency?

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Gusti, cmon, you think you do but you don't.

>>153823019
Mate, no need for namecalling. You'll hurt my feelings. Anyway, this is the first time I've actually had enough member-races to form one.

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What a start.

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>>153822169
they didn't come around

>>153822447
Yeah and ideological pressure, I'm trying to convert everyone else

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>>153824078
Simply ebin.

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>>153824364
I wonder who could it be?

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>>153824616
Expansion going alright except Grand River fucked up my plan.

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>>153825143
Meanwhile Ethiopia went full mongol on Mongolia.

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nice

>>153825232
Further proof that Ethiopia is prime A-Bomb target every time.

I'm thinking about starting up a cig game. What world settings make a map that is basically a desert map with small lakes?
Any good maps on the workshop? I'm looking for something as Tatooine-like as possible. Preferably with worldwrap.

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>>153824092
just making everyone unhappy now
>tfw two wars

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>>153827575
3 wars now and finally I'm in the green for happiness.

>>153828048
What victory conditions are you playing with?

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>>153821830
I posted this the last thread I think.

It's not full autism though so go ahead.

Just one where I can input armor and health to see which setup is the best vs a few types of weapons.

Top for were with all techs iirc.
Lower two were what I had a at a specific time.
So IV reactors, II armor.

>Reminder not to trust Rome
>Reminder to sell embassy for 1gpt to the AI

>>153828173
all of them, forgot to disable time
it's up in 10 turns or so

So what's with the warp wind down time again?
It just makes it the shittiest FTL method by far. It makes me think they confused warp with wormhole and the wind down time is supposed to be on the wormhole generators. This would actually be a decent way to balance it.

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Could squeeze another lab in there if I got the last farm tech I think, maybe need the % food after it.

With Mind Control Laser Ethics Divergence is only like -5% so I don't think I'll put this in a sector.

>roll attila
>get forward settled by alexander
>mass produce horse archers
>crush him
>this annoys japan who is nearby
>he declares war on me
>crush japan
>whole world hates me at this point
>horse archer army marches on
>finish the game half way through medieval era with logistics, range, march, volley triple promotions for rough and open terrain on about 10 horse archers

Fuck you Alexander.

Bought Thea to tide me over until VI, any tips?

>>153830958
Expeditions aren't for murdering everything in sight only. Have a few gatherer going with them and use them to recover rare materials.
Also, expeditions don't automatically give the materials they find to the camp.

>>153830892
Alexander confirmed for xenophobe

>>153776263
Black dragons + armagedon = win at life

Early on in Stellaris is it better to split up your ships and have them individually explore? The amount of times I've been exploring with one fleet and the jump into a system right next to something with 400+ fleet power.

28 days is a ridiculous amount of time to wait before retreating.

99% of my matches in Civ have been diplomatic or science victories. Cultural is needlessly complicated, so how do I break out and go for domination?

>>153832559
Got as many science ships with scientists to go around and survey habitable planets with, while splitting up the first 3 ships I started with to just move in different directions to scout for habitable planets.

Ships I built after those just stayed and accumulated.

>>153832602
Build more units, build less non-essential buildings. I'm always surprised to see people dominate with one army group while spending all their money on building upkeep. When they could have multiple armies pushing on several fronts.

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>>153794318
Day one mod, Hellenic fags BTFO.

>>153832713
I like building tall and having a pretty utopia city with as much as I can it it. Im prone to playing Prince and having a capital with like 30 wonders. Obviously that wont fly online, nor in Civ 6 so I gotta prepare.

>>153832559
Explore with your science ships man.
Keep you fleet docked until there's something to kill. If you need to peek in a system that's out of sensor range send a single corvette or even a construction ship once your corvettes get more expensive, but you really shouldnt need to do that. I lose maybe 1 science ship out of every 1000 systems explored. Anomalies have at least a 500% higher mortality rate.

Soooo I got Endless Space from some bundle.


Pretty new to 4X, should I stick to it? How is Endless Space 2 looking?

>>153832559
>>153832813

Yeah seriously this.

The moment you get deflectors and/or armor put a little on your science ships. They can survive getting into a fight with a weak ass little amoeba for a few seconds and the evasion happens pretty fast most of the time. You'll barely ever lose science fleets. Send in your big fleet to mop up if you are strong enough, then study the debris and survey the system with your science ship.

>>153832951

Some interesting political mechanics. Lame 8 faction limit, but it looks like they are going to at least be making some interesting factions like the mafia fish and always-at-war cravers.

I don't know if combat system is any good, but the inclusion of Influence in this new endless space seems pretty cool.

>>153833061
Also, any 4x which is good to play online?

Like, something closer to boardgame mechanics in terms of simplicity, shorter games but easier to set up games with people?

Kinda itching for this. All 4x takes pretty long and mostly focused on vs cheating AI

>>153832951
It's shit. Same broken AI.

>>153832813
>>153833006
If a Science ship gets into a fight it can't escape, you can save the scientist by placing the scientist in another spot temporarily.

Like another ship, or leading research.
He'll teleport away from the way.

>>153833167
civ5, small and quick seems fairly solid for mp.
I suggest pangea or some kind of generation that spawns you on the same continent.

>>153832782
The thing about the tech tree is the more you focus on those military techs the further behind you'll slip in science.

On emperor I can split the difference, build up until the medieval then do a timing push with crossbows, or longswords and trebs if I feel like it. Then it's time to build up until another key war tech, usually artillery.

Any difficulty higher on that I have to think about finishing the game as early as possible.

>>153832813
>>153833006
Yeah, but what I'm asking is about the very early game. When just about everything is outside of sensor range or before I've researched deflectors. Hell when I have deflectors and new guns I'm usually hunting the aliens down, that's not the issue.

>>153833260
Will give this a shot, TY.

What is the worst looking civ in 6 so far and why is it murrika?

>unique units and building are all lategame and not all that wild
>adequate bonuses

How long has Stellaris been out? How many patches?

It still has that awful pause behavior after dismissing event pop-ups.

>>153833421
Just keep the autoretreat on. Enemy fleets dont go for you unless you pop up right next to them, and thats super rare.

>>153833596
Yeah they seemed kinda boring.

Minutemen and +1 sight in civ5 was nice at least, but not overly exciting.
Was thinking of modding my own america civ at times, but I am lazy.
Was thinking of some kind of migration mechanic to get pop growth based on infrastructure, or a UI similar to chateau, but for production+gold and only a few luxes like cotton.

>>153833636
Go complain about it on the forums, I haven't noticed it.

Do any of the civs in 6 so far appear to be focused on building tall? At the very least I want larger cities that shit out districts and wonders rather than a sprawl of cities. China seemed promising.

>>153834263
IIRC Japan was excellent for that

>>153834263
China for hermit. Egypt for mass trade deals but you need a solid river start. Japan in general.

>>153834263
India is very clearly meant for going tall

>>153834263
It seems like montezuma builds bigger than anyone else
Germany also seems to be able to go tall

Is there a way to see what your borders will look like if you remove a frontier outpost?

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>>153825232
And then I went for them.

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>>153836015
Though I don't want to wipe him completely. I still can't decide which ideology I am going for and having vassals will be pretty handy for Freedom.

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>>153836210

>>153835834
Aztecs are clearly meant to go super-wide through warfare, the ability to get builders from killing units with the UU you get right away + builders being able to speed up district production will help you get your cities up and running quickly while the amenity boosts they get will help you maintain all those cities

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>>153828048
managed to piss everyone off and remain ahead until 750 turns.
>tfw unhappy constantly for the last 150+turns
>tfw managed to win

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Picked this up during the sale, how long are you supposed to play it before you've "Won"? It can't be the actual victory conditions, because unless I've done something horribly wrong here that shit would take fucking forever.

I went Hyperdrive and Guns at the start, have about 500 pop, 2nd place has half that. Had a fleet of almost 100k power at the start of the war that Old Empire or whatever below me started because I told them to fuck off about my robots. Fuckers teleported all over the place, and with their laser beams and shit I lost half my fleet getting into range against them. But my railguns tore them to shit once I did.
Couldn't do anything else though, because no way to reach the bastards.

Did I win? Am I done and should restart now?

>>153837032
Did you disable all victories other than score victory?

>>153837498
nay they were all enabled

>Everyone saying nearly every Civ in 6 is focused on tall

Nah this is bullshit you guys arent interpreting these right. Theyre almost all beneficial to wide and tall.

>>153837082
If you still lost half your fleet fighting a forerunner empire, you're probably not nearly done with the tech tree.

You've 'won' when everything is just an easy stomp.

>>153837997
Wide gameplay will frighten out people who play it like sim city, aka the main audience of Civ5. So it surely gonna get gutted.

>>153835951
No.
It's really stupid.

>>153838198
But theres tons of benefits and reasons to go wide in 6 anyway. Happiness is now per city, wonders taking up space, limited space for mixing tile improvements and districts, roads being easier to maintain.

>>153838198
>Happiness isn't global anymore
>Wonders require and take up specific tiles
>Have to specialize your cities based on the surrounding tiles to take advantage of district adjacency bonuses
>Setting up infrastructure is even easier now thanks to improvements no longer taking time to build and roads being handled by trade routes

How does any of this benefit tall over wide

Always the same shit with Empire Earth.
>see a few screenshots
>remember how fun the game
>reinstall it
>try a game
>remember why I dropped it in the first place
>ressources gathering is slow
>AIs doesn't even try to hide it's cheating
>spam nuclear bombers
>pathfinding is bad
>you have to find every single unit the AI hides all around the map

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>>153841249
After

Whitewash much?

>>153841724
That's better than giving everyone shitskin to cater to the SJWs.

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>>153841724
>>153841249

>>153840582
this ain't the RTS thread friend

>>153841249
>>153841724
>>153842587
Ooh, new visitors. Welcome to /civ4xg/.

>>153841724
>Whitewash
Yeah, because a noblewoman of Macedon and Egyptian descent would totally be black.

This would be the case because _______________ (please fill in the blank)

Hint: Look at the bust of Nefertiti for an Egyptian nobleowoman, and consider what kind of people might live in Macedon (that is a bit north of modern day Greece)

>>153837082
Agree with >>153838185; winning is having defeated the crisis, being able to stomp anyone, and having researched all non-repeating techs.

But I normally get to that point at around about the same time I hit 40% planets colonised anyway.

>>153843195
You're not forced to answer the troll.

My ally and I got our shit kicked in by religious zealots early on in Stellaris. They took some of my worlds, but all of ayy-bros. The only members of his race still around are the pops that migrated to my territory. And those fanatics are gearing up for another round now.

Feels bad man.

>>153841249
>>153841724
Well, I'd gently impregnate both.

>>153844012
Ceasar reckoned the same.

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>>153844397
>misswriting Caesar

>>153842758
He's not new for pointing out that it's an rts thread.

>>153845831
he is new, considering there have been rts posts in here for a good month+ now, with pretty much no one being against it.

>>153846026
>good month+
Are you fucking serious right now?
You must be a complete fucking moron if you think something that has happened a month means it is old.

And being ignored isn't the same thing as not being against.

>>153845831
>>153846396
Hello, newfriend. You don't have to pretend to be someone else, we all know it's you.

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>newfags thinking they can make the rules
We've been talking about AoE2 for ages before you arrived.

If habitability just affects max happiness and slaves don't factor happiness into yields, can I just use low habitability as mineral farms?

>>153790269
this t b h, zulu are meme tier

>>153844512
I bet he says Hercules too.

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>>153794318
desu im surprised they didn't choose this lady to lead Kongo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nzinga_of_Ndongo_and_Matamba

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_Hinan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amina

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I like Kumo. She's a real cute.

>thread is dying again
This is why we all allowed RTS discussions here to begin with.

>>153849709
she's a great general

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>>153849709
>that statue with marble pedestal and a brass information plate
>that run down half-built apartment complex in the background

how sad

>>153746352
>http://pastebin.com/qsTFCyvh
I am considering buying Stellaris on current steam sale, but I don't know if it will work in my pc...

How reliable is canyourunit?

>>153818945
I don't think the AI gets bonus techs in CBP. That's why I'm able to consistently get early game wonders.

>>153805829
Vanilla Prince = CBP Settler

E.g at Settler difficulty the AI has no advantages or disadvantages whatsoever. Every difficulty level above it gives the AI more and more bonuses. IIRC Prince difficulty in CBP is roughly equal to Emperor in vanilla.

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Is /civ4xg/ finally coming around to the art style?

>>153859412
The artstyle is all over the place. You have people like Roosevelt and Philip II that look relatively alright, but then there's also Qin Shi Huang and Catherine de Medici who look outright caricatures.

>>153860567
I like Medici. I'm merely hesistant about Qin. What I REALLY don't like though is Barbossa's horrible animation. And that armor doesn't help.

>>153859412
I mean ive always liked the artstyle, but some of the leaders look fucking stupid honestly. or have some real caricatured aspects while others look pretty normal. teddy, fredrick, and that kongo dude, for instance, look really out of place compared to pedro, gandhi, and qin. almost like they have two art directors, one making half of the models, and half making others, one went for a stylized yet mostly down to earth way, but the other went totally caricatured. (and yes I know teddy looked different before, but now he looks even weirder since he's out of place compared to a bunch of the others)

>>153857031
Not very reliable. A direct comparison between system requirements and your computer specs is more reliable.

are great people counters still shared in CBP or are they separate?

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I can't wait to try a Religious Victory as the Congo.

>>153862042
Separate.

>>153862042
I believe so, yes.

>>153862429
can't wait to play Belgium/Kongo free state (someone will mod it in) for max memes and or shitpost potential

>>153861439
That is the thing mate, my pc is like 8-9 years old, but was a top of the line pc when I bought it, it runs many modern games it was not supposed to be able to run, even if at low resolution/kinda bugged.

I dunno man, it might run or it might simply not work at all...

Pantheons
>Divine Spark: +1 Great Person Point from Holy Site (Prophet), Campus (Scientist), and Theater Square (Writer) districts
>Dance of the Aurora: Holy Site district get +1 Faith from adjacent Tundra tiles.
>Desert Folklore: Holy Site districts get +1 Faith from adjacent Desert tiles.
>Sacred Path: Holy Site district get +1 Faith from adjacent Rainforest tiles.
>River Goddess: +1 Amenity to cities if they have a Holy Site district adjacent to a River.
>Monument to the Gods: Construct Ancient and Classical Wonders 15% faster.
>Lady of the Reeds and Marshes: +1 Production from Marsh, Oasis, and Floodplains.
>God of the Sea: +1 Production from Fishing Boats.
>God of the Open Sky: +1 Culture from Pastures.
>Goddess of the Hunt: +1 Food from Camps.
>Stone Circles: +2 Faith from Quarries.
>Religious Idols: +1 Faith from Mines over Luxury and Bonus resources.
>God of Craftsmen: +1 Production from mines over Strategic resources.
>Goddess of Festivals: +1 Food from Wine, Incense, Cocoa, Tobacco, Coffee, and Tea Plantations.
>Oral Tradition: +1 Culture from Banana, Citrus, Cotton, Dyes, Silk, Spices, and Sugar Plantations.
>God of the Forge: +25% Production toward Ancient and Classical military units.
>Initiation Rites: +50 Faith for each Barbarian Outpost cleared.
>God of Healing: Increases healing by +30 in your Holy Site district, or any adjacent tiles.
>God of War: Bonus faith for each enemy unit killed within 8 tiles of a Holy Site district you own equal to 50% of their strength.
>Fertility Rites: City growth rate is 10% higher.
>Religious Settlements: Border expansion rate is 15% higher.
>Goddess of the Harvest: Harvesting a resource or removing a feature receives Faith equal to the other yield's quantity.

>>153862429
Did they add religious victory? Sry for not googling lol just wanna keep the thread alive.

>>153863150
Yeah mate.

>>153862629
>was a top of the line pc when I bought it,
Like every PC mate.

>>153863150
yes

>>153863150
>Religious Victory: Your Religion must become predominant (followed by >50% cities) in every major and minor civilization.
(minor civs=city states)

>>153863146
>some pantheons don't produce faith
This really irked me in CiV but I guess it will be fine in 6 because you can keep your pantheon belief even if you get converted.

What is the point ofcity-states? They just seem to clog the game up and add more limitations to the human players.

>>153863349
>Like every PC mate.
Not in my country, mate.

We have abusive importation taxes on eletronic goods, making top of the line pcs cost about 60% more than they should.

Most of the pcs bought in my country are not high end at all.

>>153863146
>Goddess of the Harvest: Harvesting a resource or removing a feature receives Faith equal to the other yield's quantity.

What's the point of harvesting? Is it just a situational thing in case you say, want to open up a tile that would be better suited for a district or wonder?

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>>153863421
>>153863389
>>153863150
God is great.

We all know how this is gonna turn out.

>>153863579
in civ 5= they're in the game to make a more 'living' world (more cities around because they destroyed city spam) as well as to provide votes for diplomatic victories. this means that they're practically ignored through most of the game, until the modern era, where they're suddenly extremely valuable. in civ 6 there is no diplomatic victory, though. so whats their purpose? they're just minor territories that you can either conquer or control via envoys, which can give you a lot of unique bonuses.

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>>153863751

>>153864085
I always wanted to see /pol/-chan spanking little ISIS.

>>153864043
Um. Yeah. I dunno, I tend to see the world from a RTS point of view, where everything must be a ressource. From the few I played Civ5, city states were just here for quests.