/xcg/ - XCOM general

>>153634969
pistols are useful

What are some good X-Com like games?

>>153635149
Which xcom games have you played including modded versions and which ones did you enjoy or not.

>>153635198

I don't like the OG X-Com game not my taste

>>153635319
Well then your screwed. I feel like I already said this, so I apologize if I'm just throwing the same opinion at you again. Fact is, most xcom like games are inspired by the original and try to be like it. Modern XCOM clones are a future reality.
Probably gonna have to wait till Xenonauts 2 or Phoenix point.

>>153635471

Okay then how is Xenonaughts? do I have to refit the soldiers after every single mission?

>>153635471
>>153635149

There's that cowboy game, hard west or somthing like that. Dunno if it's good though.

>>153635581
No you don't, though I don't have to recall doing that in x-com either.
The game has some more resemblance to modern xcoms. There is a cover system, and the starting squad at least is only 6 people. Still uses TUs. Most people say they realized part through way they could have been playing x-com instead. Don't really know how this criticism applies to someone who didn't enjoy x-com.

>>153635730
Yeah, heard kinda mixed reviews on that one.

>>153634969
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvx-ixOpgHM

>>153635149
wasteland 2

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>>153635939

>it ain't me starts playing
>advent troopers go into a ptsd episode

This pleases the Bradford

OG x-com EU was fun back when I played it as a 12 year old, same with terror from the deep. Tried booting it up again but the gameplay is too annoying. They made good streamlining improvements in EU and Long War brought back the clusterfuck of items if you are into that. XCOM2 made most items completely useless since all the AI are so one dimensional.

But I'm over OG x-com now. X1 EU/EW captured some of the feel again with that creepy ambience, and adds fun characters like Bradford, Shen and Vahlen. X2 is a huge step down when it comes to feel of the game, and the characters are way less original, but are passable. I was unfortunately hoping for an exapnded strategy map in XCOM2, pretty disappointed with the 0.50c ipad game we got instead.

>>153635149
i know that Hard West and Skyshine's bedlam are turn based tactics but besides that i have no knowledge about them

Invisible Inc is a turn based stealth tactics, its very fun and i like the corporate espionage theme

Banner Saga also a turn based tactics with a story, the story is interesting but i never finished because xcom 2 came out

hopefully you might find something out of those 4

>>153636412
A completely free mobile game (fallout shelter) had more strategy than XCOM2.

I would have liked to see something of that nature in XCOM2, where invading ayys in the base were handled by staff. Could have been the original style ayys too, set up for suicide attacks.

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>All these people who can't enjoy x-com
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>153635149
The UFO games (Aftermath, Aftershock and Afterlight) are pretty decent. Combat's real time with pause but the strategic side is the style we all know and love.

>>153615450
There is no good reason for either of those weapon mods not to be in there. What's funny is that I've even recommended MP on account of it being virtually the only mod which tackles T3 successfully to several people so I thought it was already in there. Slapping 'em in now, thanks man.

The LW Perk Pack actually is in, just under gameplay features rather than class mod because I think it does enough to classify it as a minor overhaul rather than a custom class. Same with the Laser Pack. Kind of stupid now that I think about it.

As to the scarcity of class mods I actually used to ask specifically about classes and voice packs in the general a lot because that's what the list was missing, but nobody knew any they thought worth including so I just stuck to the ones I had tried out myself. Same with voice packs. No reason to keep it that way though.

What do the Rogue and Specops do? I haven't played with them, are they balanced or just a fun-run type of deal?

>>153637075

You need this class in your thingy

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=659582342&searchtext=Bruiser

I haven't played with the new SpecOps class(the guy remade it when the LWPerk pack came out) but with the old one it was a stealth based class that could basically go behind enemy lines and slowly take down ayys one by one without losing concealment.

>>153637351
Dope, how does the Bruiser play? Tanky close range brawler type of deal? Updating it right now so could put him in

>>153637075
If you ask me this shit needs to be on the list.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=626742882

>>153637075
if its not too late to recommend class mod
i have been playing with the paragon class mod
it uses the LWPP to create a new set of classes that imo are better balanced than the ones LWPP has

>>153637465
What is this jabroni post

>>153637715
Fuck you.

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>>153637439

Yes, Bruiser goes in, stacks a bunch of armor and doesn't die. Until 4 sectopods use him for target practice.

>>153637075
>>153637351
>>153637465
>>153637789
Aight, I added Mercenary Weapons, Mk21 Railgun and the Bruiser class to pastebin and steam collection now.
Also put in the Darkholme voice pack

>>153637684
>>153637351
I'm on the fence about SpecOps and Paragon, SpecOps sounds blatantly broken because being allowed to re-use concealment for anything except recon is an immensely powerful tool and Paragon because it's a pretty big thing to include. I'll hold off a little bit until more people chime in on whether it's good or not, or I get a chance to try it out!

>>153637789
xcom2 is so shit

jake is a narcissistic egotistical faggot who wouldn't have a clue about making a good xcom

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>>153638652

>Argon

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>>153640124

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[IT AIN'T ME INTENSIFIES]

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What the fuck is going on in this thread ?

>>153641410
There is literally nothing to do right now but wait for the expansion and the occasional mod update. Ain't much to talk about, total conversions are a few months off and overhauls are just coming in.

>>153641596
Do you have a tight ass

>>153641625
pretty flabby

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>>153641402

Use the Sword!!

>>153641596
>expansion

wait what ?

oh great, now I'm gonna be 3 expansons behind

>>153641832
That's DLC. There's hints of a full expansion in the works.

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>>153641670
have a tank i touched

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>>153641727

OW

>>153642015
You seriously molested a fucking King Tiger?

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>>153642124
Yes and you best believe I didn't stop there

>>153642345
You sick fuck.

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xth for the great Tenguman

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>>153642390
Not even this child got away.

Last one

>>153641878
>>153641878
>full expansion in the works.

You mean bug fixes and patching plus DLC.

>>153642623
no, i mean there were files titled 'expansion' with coastal maps in the SDK before it got removed

>>153642657
SO terror from the deep expansion confirmed?

>>153642923

I think it's more likely that terror of the deep is going to be Xcom3, the expansion is going to bridge the gap or something.

>>153642974
XCOM3

>XCOM2 and EU/EW and x-com never happened
>The ayys all came from the bottom of the oceanwhere they have been setting up to claim the earth as theirs
>Bradford in a scuba suit
>Vahlens daughter in a bikini as the scientist
>Vahlen rescue mission
>The mechanic is a SPARK class AI that has become self aware

>>153643196

I think it would be really shit if they pulled the "the previous game didn't happen" shit again. I didn't particularly mind with Xcom2, i thought it was a neat twist but i'd rather see the story move forward. I want Bradford to actually pilot the avenger to an ayy homeworld and rek their shit like he said he would.

>>153643313
It would be cool to attack the ayys on their homeworld, maybe abduct some of their citizens, see how they like it.

>>153638652

You do know he made EU/EW as well, and him nagging Firaxis's higher-ups to death is why we even have a rebooted series in the first place?

>>153643928
Most of that was Gupta, really.

>>153643974

Yeah, to be fair we don't really know who did what. Point is, the core gang who got the ball rolling are still there.

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S N E K

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>>153644451
I still have this. Good times.

>>153644525
Seeing this screenshot always tickles me since I was 138304365. I mean the other Anon did all the explaining, so he's the cool dude for sure, but sparking his explanation is still a fun feeling.

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Holy shit

I got a fucking Lithuanian

and his name is spelled wrong, per usual

>>153644769
>Combine Lithuanians fighting the Ayys
HL3 confirmed

>>153644769
>Spelled wrong
No, friend, that is simply how they spell it in the FUTURE! It's 2035, the language EVOLVED!

>>153645143
*in a robotic voice*
>PISKIT NAHUI, JUS KOSMOSO NEGRAI BLET!

>>153645206
I don't think the rules of Lithuanian grammar would change so much in 20 years that we would remove letters from the alphabet

>>153645328
>would remove letters from the alphabet
ADVENT streamlining languages, Commander. Eventually they're going to just make sure everyone speaks their own tongue, but they have to take babysteps!

>>153645328

This sounds like something a LITHUANIAN would say

>>153646725
More like LithuAYYnians

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>>153646885

>>153647327
The fuck, is this new customization option for the expansion?

>>153647327
what mod??

>>153647327
ICP BULLSHIT

Why did jake cater to these pathetic people

>>153650110

Because he's fucking UNHINGED

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Literally just this

>>153647327
JOKAH BAYBEE voicepack when

>>153650570
Shut up, ADVENT Tube knows what they're doing. Cyberbullying Snek is WRONG!

>>153650570
http://www.affinitymagazine.us/2016/04/29/why-it-isnt-as-simple-as-just-walk-away-from-the-screen/
BACK THE FUCK OFF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

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>>153652174
Of course it isn't that simple, you also need to grow a fucking pair, stop being a little fucking bitch and learn how to take bantz.

>>153652282
it's a meme you dip

>>153652282
I haven't outright laughed at something in quite a while, thanks for that. I sincerely hope that situation actually happened.

>>153652282
MAn I cluelessly pulled this shit when I got my first office job after being a construction laborer for 7 years.

I legit didn't think anyone would get offended at being called wankers let alone cunts. I had a huge adjustment period of getting into shit because some princess was upset with the way I talked to everyone.

In the end they trained me up to be a concrete plant operator and now all my concrete truck drivers call me cunt with affection, even the lady one. Quite nice really. Also thought I got paid wrong first week but turns out it pays double.

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ADVENT supports ass-sniffing. Why don't you?

>>153644451
I WAN

TO FUCK

THE SNEK

>>153656756
do not huff the ayy ass

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>>153659205
I want to REMOVE snek and YOU as well.

BEHEAD

I'm still new to all these mods listed on /xcg/, should I set the minimum soldiers to 10? Or is 4 soldiers fine? I just played my first haven siege mission for my first retaliation and got my poo pushed in

>>153661965
Usually when you start modifying you're campaign significantly, people go for 6 starting squad with upgrades bringing them up to 8 soldiers.

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ayy lmao, the muton literally naded himself

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Zombie Op gone right.

>>153661965
If you end up installing the entire modlist without doing any kind of counterbalancing, you're going to end up in a weird place. If you feel like you're getting demolished there are other places to start than just raising soldier count though, I find that a lot of the time that just leads to massive steamroll. The difference between 6 and 8 soldiers to play with is staggering.

>>153661965
4 soldiers is fine. If you want to make it a bit easier without going overboard, try one or a couple of these on for size:

- Buff sword damage by 1 across the board
- Buff halfcover to grant 30 defense
- Buff full-cover to grant 45 defense
- Buff Aid Protocol to grant 30 defense to reflect the halfcover buff
- Buff disorient to now apply a 30 aim malus (This also applies to Sectoid mindspin disorient, so not completely broken)
- Buff Repeaters and Hairtriggers by 5% and 10% respectively
- Buff Blademaster to +4 melee damage
- Remove Reaper paintrain damage malus
- Removed Civilians -10 defense malus on terror missions
- Allow utility slots on kevlar to alleviate low tactical flexibility early on

So, I'm trying to play piratez since my cpu decided to start cooking if I put any actual load on it.

What am I supposed to be doing on this watchtower mission? I can't enter the tower and the guard appears to be a harmless dummy.

Also, is boredom really a good reason to throw a black-powder bomb at a squadmate and turn 1/3 of my squad hostile, 5 turns in? Are they always this ADHD?

>>153669481
PirateZ method of keeping you moving is morale drain. Everyone's morale starts at 100, and then drops everyturn until it's below their bravery. Once it's below their bravery it starts to recover.
I know what they are going for, but it definitely feels a bit extreme at times, definitely early game where you only have 6 people and need to be careful.
Killing gives a large morale boost to the entire squad. The battleflag can be used to restore morale. If you feel it's a bit extreme you can bump it down a bit by modifying the PirateZ_Armors.rul file.
Bravery is also a trainable stat.

As for the watchtower, never done that mission. What did the mission description say?

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who sat down and thought, "Ok, we're going to let the player encounter enemies tougher than chryssalids that can instantly kill you with their big meaty claws and can only be killed by stabbing the fucker with a lance or nuking them in fucking april"

and then immediately goes "yeah and also we're going to also let them encounter actual chryssalids that float as soon as they encounter an alien base"

>>153670350
It basically said, 'whee, watchtower in the middle of nowhere is an easy target, just that robot to deal with, but maybe we can trick it'

It's a woodland map with a little 3-storey tower and what looks like a robot stood next to it. It acts like a piece of terrain though and I either can't access the tower or I can but I'm too much of a retarded newbie to figure out how the door works. And then derpy mcbombs decided to entertain herself by blowing herself up.

>>153670980
I think you just need to destroy the robot.

>>153670931
Well there was this bug in the original orginal x-com that automatically set the difficulty down to beginner after the first mission. So all the fans complained the game was to easy. So TFTD was supposed to step up the difficulty, based off of the previous difficulties that no one had actually played. At least that's my theory.

>>153671374
I can't target it though, that's why I said it was like terrain. I do have one black-powder bomb left, I suppose i could try that.

>>153672691
Any projectile weapon or bomb will do it. Weapons like the chainsaw and hammer also can target terrain.

>>153672849
Ah, one of them does have a chainsaw. Seems a bit powerful for a starter weapon, but whatever I guess.

I wish a chainsaw/chainsword would be ported into XCOM

>>153672954
Most melee weapons have really good damage actually. It's just, well, they are melee weapons. Also some are very stat dependent.

>>153673040
They wouldn't look very good until they got some custom animations.

>>153675582
Dawn of War 2 treats chainswords like a regular sword so it might work for chainswords.

Agreed on chainsaws though, the grip would be weird.

>>153675687
I wonder if you could jerry-rig the bash animation to make it look right. Have to find some way to make them take the chainsaw out first through.

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>this fucking pathing
Why is this allowed?

beagles when

>took me 4 days to download the SDK set

Fuck

>>153679145

not for another couple of hours

>>153679164
Are you arabic voicepack-anon?

>>153678256
Yeesh, slow down on those casualties.

>>153679369
yeah, I can finally start today but I don't know if I can finish because grandma's having a birthday dinner

>>153679537
How old?

>>153679932
Reaching 70 I think? Grandparents from both sides of the family have been dying off the past few years so I feel I should celebrate when I can, I don't know how merciful real life RNG will be when it comes to these kinds of things

>>153659205
You may not want to fugg that particular snek, there appears to be something wrong with her chest. Some kind of protrusions that sneks should normally have.
>http://i.imgur.com/HzTWqG3.jpg
Okay, I agree, I'd fugg her anyways.

>>153679164
>launch SDK set
>"Cannot find essential component, please reinstall"

FIX YOUR FUCKING TOOLS JAKE

>>153680468
I swear I remember modders talking about some configuration you had to change otherwise the SDK wouldn't work after the most recent patch.

>>153680468
Install the files in the Redist folder just like the manual says you dummy

>>153680092
Yeah don't skip grandparent's birthdays, it's boring and dull as fuck but it's just one of those things you know you'd regret if they died the year you didn't go.

>>153680667
>>153680583
Yeah I'm downloading the drivers independently since modders say the bundled drivers only work with SP3 or something.

I know I'm a dummy anon

>>153681062
At least the food will be nice. Shouldn't be too bad since the little cousins will be there

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Day of rope for advent and snek when!

Jesus Christ Jake just fucking patch this shit already

>>153684752
September 27th

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I didn't know I'd enjoy XCOM: Apocalypse Now so much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-DkyMXTo5Q

Alright, managed to get shit working but the XCOM 2 Editor won't launch past the splash screen.

It's like I'm playing Long Dong and JL designed the tools

>>153684752
Patch what?

>>153687196
Risingstorm 2 when

>>153687220
>If the player finishes a mod, it's to easy

>>153687364
>a little better
Indeed. At least it was a positive score. What difficulty?

>>153687602
>>If the player finishes a mod, it's to easy

Alright, legit made me fucking laugh there. Thanks anon.

Gonna see if verifying integrity works. Will take awhile since it has to sift through 42 gigs of files. Guess I'll watch Pokemon

>>153687965
Yeah clearing floors can be rough if you don't have good armor. Until I get stuff that will actually keep people alive I go for light armor that gives bonuses to TUs, stamina, and energy recovery so that I can sprint through close quarters and clear them quickly.
Though, if you didn't ally with the mutant alliance you could skip progroms if you wanted to.

>>153688842
Yeah, in beta .98b you start the game alligned with them and have to do progroms right away. However you also started with a nice ship that could carry 14 people. In .99 you start the game with your measly 6 man sqaud but don't have to do progroms.
I'm still not quite certain what the benefits of being in the mutant alliance are in .99.

>>153688842
>>153687965
Oh also if you aren't already, consider using smoke grenades.

>>153690956
I just run smokes without any specialized gear. As long as you steadily advance and they don't have terrible stamina it isn't hard to keep people on their feet. You can use consumables that remove stun damage.

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Oh shit guys it's underway

>>153692692
God speed anon

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Why are LWPP rangers so god damn broken? Why are the LWPP classes in general so god damn broken? You'd have to double enemy counts for this shit to be even remotely balanced, as is they can easily crit twice per turn through fullcover for up to 16 damage. Consistently and without risk, it's crazy. Pic related is pushing on 200 kills while most of the others aren't even in the triple digits, it's like critfantry all over again

>>153693128

It's reverse magnificence

>>153686726

The delicious McIntriguing

>>153693128
>Melting ayys, all the days

>>153693128
>twice
Until they're Brigadiers. Then you can light em up->OW. With the right perks you land four shots, period.
Granted it takes time and all, but still.
Two Brigadier rangers could very well solo everything everywhere forever.

On that note, has anyone ever missed a shot after taking grazing fire?
I swear either the tooltip is misleading or it doesn't work the way it says it should.

>>153693128
Get all the ABA shit. The full ABA set + ghost ceilings keep LWPP balanced

>>153696028
Tried ABA but can't understand the hype and I never have, I may be wrong but I stuck out an L/I campaign and most of it consists of variety for the sake of variety like "look at this wacky unit and its wacky abilities" rather than looking at what's missing in the aliens unit lineup and adding that. Some of the enemies end up being freebies while others demand you to build around them completely.

For all of the comparisons to LW people make it has a fundamentally different design philosophy and it's just not what I'm looking for. Then again I need to stop going into an overhaul mod and immediately going "how does this stack up to LW" when the reality is that LW took years to make and still had its own flaws.

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Uh...this is normal right

>psyops cant be put in the psionic facility
>spark cant be repaired

w e l l d o n e

Man The Bureau had some weird shit in it

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1472245991887.webm

>>153698856
Kek
Also what the fuck

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>>153698856
>tfw you will never work with ayyliens to exterminate niggers

>>153698856
wat

>>153698706
>cheats
>complains that cheats broke the game
Play the game as Lord Jake intended, heretic.

>>153700743
You're right, Jake.

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Nobody watching Beagle's Wild LW Ride?

>>153702227
Yeah I'm watching.
Have some respect for you waifu

>>153702993
You're

>>153702227

totally forgot he was streaming tonight. arteezy is back to streaming dota. i was watching that.

Does anyone have that optimal LW base layout pic? I need to figure out how badly I set up my base.

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>>153706301

L-LEWD

>>153707548
let it happen

>>153698856
Ayy lmao was that X-files?

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>>Two Crits in a row.

B-Beagleluck?...

F

Wait.

Do you really lose a month of alien activity if you beat the early large landed? I don't remember that happening before.

>>153711842
I mean, it could happen, but I believe it is very unlikely. Not like if "a and b then c" kind of deal.

>>153712152

Yeah.

Guess Beagle was not so lucky in this campaign.

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Post your Blacksites

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>>Beagle Alpha Striking innocent non-activated patrols.

The Hunt ON

>Beagle kills a pack of sectoids with 2.1 scatter
noice

>>153715275
For a second i thought it was kai leng and i got very angry

>>153715768
It never really occurred to me how much she resembles Kai Leng.

>>153716078
Hey at least shes not a faggot chink antagonist of a dead meme franchise

>>153716254
very true.

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Next Week:

Attack on Supply Barge: The Second Round.

>>153716621
I JUST CAME IN AT THE END GODDAMNIT

Stream is Over.

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WELL PLAYED, JAKE.

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Cyclops mod when

>>153697987
Yep.

I hope they add huge buildings in the expac, I miss the giant UFO boarding and giant base raiding.

>>153689221
You get the Skyranger only after you ally with the Alliance.

>>153693128
>>153696854
I honestly think LW's third mod is a full strategic layer rebalance, because the Ayy Pack feels like just the opening of something.

Remember the Ayy Pack is supposed to work INDEPENDENTLY of the Perk Pack.

>>153721520
More giant buildings would be nice

>>153721770
Thanks. Still not worth it imo.

>>153721861
Ya know, this makes me wonder how it must be like to play the game with the perk pack but without the ayy pack, any of the ABA components or any of the other enemy mods.

Just how easy does that get?

>>153721861

People said the same thing when the perk pack came out.

"this is so op, the ayys are going to be magnificent!"

And then they weren't.

>>153722969
It came out first, so people were shitting their pants because of how broken it was and fearing the return of the magnificence with the Ayy Pack

But then the Ayy Pack came out and it was just... adequate

>>153723101
>And then they weren't.
najas are fucking scary
i learned my lesson to not fuck with them and instead shove a rocket in their throats

>>153723147
I know, I just didn't use it until after the ayy pack came out because I was in the middle of a run and heard that shit was pretty fucking OP.

>>153723609
Thing is, LW is balanced directly for 10 guys. The Ayy Pack has to assume you're sticking to default values.

>>153723781

>not always increasing the enemy pod size

>>153723887
I think you might have missed my point.

has anyone gotten 'friendly AI' overhaul to work?

Are the exalt raids as awesome as they sound?

>legend x2 run
>ufo hunt
>it found me

well i guess this run is over. thanks, jake.

>>153725256
Maybe you should just kick some ass instead of bitching about it. At least have the decency to lose first.

>>153711073
>Stepped away for this part of the stream
>Hear people died
>Go back to see what happens
>Analyzing every move to see where Beagle screwed up
>Keep watching, starting to get confused
>Those drop ins
>Those crits
Literally unavoidable magnificence. The only thing I would say is I'm not sure who puts scopes on shotgunners, but even then that was some next level bs.

>>153725397

>4 wounded
>1 dead

yeah this run is over.

>>153726596
rip

>>153726376
I wish there was a mod to let you play the different gear cutscenes with whatever soldier you wish for juicy screenshots

>>153726767
That is a good idea.

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Never played XCom

Can I into Space Marine teir squads?

>>153727345
Depends, which XCOM you gonna be playin anon?

>>153727405
Newest one I guess.

>>153727447
>>153727345

Well if you mean aestethics, right now the closest thing we have to Spess muhreens is Halo armor.

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>>153726692

>ignored the set of guerrilla ops after the ufo hunt
>only end up having alloy padding and recruit cost increase activate (not the end of the world)
>flawless the second retaliation
>little bit of hope
>get ass fucked on the next guerrilla op
>lose my CCS assault
>lose my holo gunner
>snapshot/pistol sharpshooter wounded for 20+ days
>3 pips away from avatar
>one comm away from a facility but comms and power are maxed with neither being completed in sight
>mag weapons are still 12 days away
>ufo lands
>squad is rag tag Z-team shitters

i feel like i'm getting the TRUE xcom experience with this legend run. thanks, jake (and lws).

for all the people say X2 isn't full of MAGNIFICENCE i feel bad for you because you're probably still playing on commander. this game is a whole different beast on legend.

GUYS

>>153731292
INCOMING ITS HAPPENING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX6xP3fqjzs&feature=youtu.be

>>153731481
>>153731292

WHERE ARE THE ALLAH ACKBARUS!?!??!?!?

>>153731723
They didn't put that in CoD

Also link here, I hope it works for people. Spent like 4 hours on this baby

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=757106909

>>153731770
>IGdood

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK

>>153731481
WHY DO THEY SOUND SO ANGRY

>>153732034
THEY ARE ANGRY ABOUT AYYS

>>153732034

Because Allah is great.

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>>153731481
Allah Ackbar!
ALLAH ACKBAR!
is all I hear

>>153731481
/xgc/ better make some nice behead snek webms with audio

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>>153732519

>/xgc/ snake beheading videos with the isis anthem playing in the background start being posted on the firaxis twitter

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>>153731481
>>153731770

That took long enough.

guys what's a good FPS/third-peron OTS ayy lmao killing game that isn't x-com related?

Anyone have any Ironman Impossible tips for Enemy Within?

I just got totally shafted on a bomb mission because of a tired mistake followed by a smoke grenade's path changing as I clicked and not going where it was needed.

Also, are there any unofficial bug fixes and patches? I'm getting very tired of enemies getting seen while shooting that weren't seen when I was moving the shooter into position, enemies ghosting in and out of rooms without having to use doors or windows when it's covered by fog of war, sometimes not getting flanking shots even after the piece of cover an enemy is behind has been completely destroyed.

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>>153733049

Spess muhreen

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EXALT
X
A
L
T

/xcg/ is kill

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>>153740921
f

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together balls and shaft over here make a complete penis
we are doomed, the aliens have won
all hope is lost

>>153740921
Kill? In my /xgc/?

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but who will slaughter all these frolicking sectoids when you're gone, /xcg/?

>>153724256
It works, but the modder is trying to rebalance it to not be "Fuck you in the ass" tier while passive aggressively going "I can handle Chyrsallid swarms and ~20+ enemies on the 1st mission so why can't you"

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>>153747503
I'm not entirely convinced that /xcg/ even can be kill, we just refuse to die ever

>>153750218
What's that eyepatch from senpai?

I love the pic btw, real /p/ shiet

>>153750437
It's from Mark 2 Powered Helmets, found here: http://www.nexusmods.com/xcom2/mods/541/?

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>go to bed after making sure it's released
>wake up
>see this

Never change, steam comments

>>153750583
Thanks bro, dog bless

>>153734135
Never really heard of an unofficial community patch, sorry about that. Except for Long War that fixes some of that, but obviously that's not very helpful.

>>153634969
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=756315744

For anyone bothered by the weird tier 3 recticule, this mod apparently lest's you change the targeting reticules for weapons around.

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Whoa

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=757257838

>>153753329
that looks so god damn impractical

>>153753789
Mass Effect in a nutshell

Not xcg stuff
HAS ANYONE READ THE LATEST FBI EMAIL REPORTS MY BRAIN IS HEMORRHAGING

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>start up XCOM 2
>see this

OH FUCK WHAT

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>>153755672
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

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So this was supposed to be an epic struggle for survival?

>>153756056
Imagine if they always put a wall in front of the spike. You would actually have to play the mission.

>>153754883
Post it you tease

>2 casualties to boredom-induced friendly-fire
>2 casualties to being so unfit that the move from the dropship to the target made them collapse unconscious
>haven't made hostile contact yet

Fucking pirates.

Expansion when?

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>Objective: eliminate all hostiles
>this guy appears along 3 codex
what do?

>>153761390
use the same exploit that makes enemy reinforcement drops not move

>>153761390
remove ayy like you're supposed to, pussy

>>153761127
>you die from collapsing unconscious from running 50 yards

Superhuman ubermutants, everybody.

>>153761186
i would say 6-8 months from now
we might see something official in november
that would be the same amount time between EU launch and the teaser of EW

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>>153755672

You are on the right track.

>>153731481
But we've had this for months already

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=646558181

>>153698856
What the fuck?! Source?

Was that the alien speaking? HAHAHA

So, why do my piratez suddenly fall unconscious at random during the enemy turn when they're not doing anything, not tired or low on morale, and not near any opponents? Was this caused by standing on a stunned enemy?

>>153768189
Have they taken any damage? Are they standing in smoke?

>>153768331
No, and no. We basically walked up to the outpost, and the guards ran out past us because it was dark, so I coshed them. I only just started, so I don't know if they'd recover, so I took their weapons off them. While a couple more swabs went inside, I left them outside because I'm retarded about TU and item swaps, and one suddenly keeled over a couple of turns later. Then I coshed the last person, who had no LOS to her even if it wasn't dark, and the mission ended.

>>153768643
Yeah I'm not quite sure. There is a white bar that fills up in the same place that the health bar is. This is stun damage, and once it fills up to or past a person's current health they go unconscious. Next time check to see if it's filling up on someone. If it is, and you don't know why, try to post some screenshots of the persons stats and inventory and what map they are on, and I'll try to find a conclusive answer.

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And so, the war for humanity began on January 1st, 1999.

My story posting will be slow, as I'm a lazy ass.

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> 97% chance to hit
> miss
Wot is this

>>153770861
What mods?

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>>153770861
Supplies were delivered later, 1200.

>>153770906
A 3% to miss.

>>153770861
Good luck commander
what difficulty?

>>153771105
It's Xeno Operations with a sprinkling of other mods that I'm too lazy to list.

Also, the filter is "crt-interlaced*". For that "commanding through a monitor" aesthetic.

>>153771151
Along with the supplies, the new personnel were transported to base "UNIT Office".

>>153771157
Veteran.

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>>153771421
Whoops.

>>153771284
>Xeno Operations
I've been curious about this overall, I'll definitely be interested to see what you encounter.
>a sprinkling of other mods that I'm too lazy to list
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say they are mostly /k/ oriented.

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>>153771421
>>153771581
Never forget these brave men and women /xgc/.


>>153771610
Xeno Ops. is pretty good. Also, yes: there is a /k/ mod that allows you to fuck up ayys with muskets plus a useful standalone mod that provides your troops with gas masks.

At least terror from the deep wont have advent in it.

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>>153772287
I like ADVENT

>>153772374
I don't.
By the time we start seeing the aliens the game is already nearly over.

My first playthrough I killed like 8 zerks, 4 archons and 1 gatekeeper

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>>153772096
>Radar has a contact! Contact size suggests that it's large UFO. It just touched down in Denmark. We should breach it as soon as we can; it'll be nighttime when if and when we respond.

>>153772564
I don't know how the hell that happened. In fact I'm 99% certain it's actually impossible. My first playthrough on Commander I saw every ayy except zerkers and lids regularly.
I didn't even finish my Legendary playthrough I was was already slogging through mounds of mutons, archons, sneks, and codexes.

Do sneks, mutons, and pectoids not count as aliens or something?

>>153772936
>Do sneks, mutons, and pectoids not count as aliens or something?

no

>>153764975
I didn't know it existed

>>153772932
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tdu4uKSZ3M

>>153770550
On the bootypedia tactics page, it says this:

>019 || Cover saves lives. Ending your move in the open is the surest ticket to the other world. Hide at least 1 tile away from a corner for maximum safety. When going under a low ceiling, kneel to see elevated enemies and be able to throw bombs further away. Standing on corpses brings bad luck.

Maybe that last bit is relevant. Pretty sure he wasn't actually dead, though.

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>>153773331
How insulting

>>153772936
The only lids I ever saw were on the gatekeeper story missions also, though I can't say I am much bothered by that considering lids are just walking land mines now.

>>153764975
WTR didn't translate it enough for my autism

>>153772936
>except zerkers and lids regularly
Because they're limited to terror missions, without mods.
Lids can also appear if a certain dark event activates and they're guaranteed on the psi gate mission.
Zerkers can pretty much only be seen in one mission per campaign, possibly two.
I've seen them in an Avenger defense but I was running the Alien Pack, which changes around some pods.

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>>153772564

>By the time we start seeing the aliens the game is already nearly over.
>Sectoids show up in gatecrasher

is there a way to tone down or remove the amount of debris that comes out when something explodes?

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In piratez how do I fuck Mercenaries?

I have even beaten sectopod star god terror, but mercenaries... I shot one elite guy with two bursts from vulcan and there he was still erect and proud and the he fucked me with baby nuke.

>>153775716
Mercenaries have 60% piercing resistance.

>>153776075
So... selling or dismantling all my lasers because bossar and gauss guns are just plain better wasn't a good idea?

>>153776508
Correct. Bossar guns are indeed awesome, but yeah, Mercenaries eat lead for breakfast. Laser and plasma are good. Cutting is good as well.

>>153774762
I want to see zerkers, lids, gatekeepers, sectopods, and archons more often.

really missing the ethereal and cyberdisks from xcom1 also

>>153776668
Can't touch plasma yet and have only a few lasers, heavy being the strongest one.

So... arena flakk cannon and bows?

Also, would small launcher stunballs work? I have my vaults full of the things.

Does the additional weapon tiers work for the spectrum mod?

shits fucked on my end mateys

>try to download Area 51 for Openxcom
>need to place the folder in Documents and settings
>that folder doesn't exist because I am not using XP
So...what to do?

>>153774370

Zerkers can appear in Avenger defense in vanilla if they've been in a retal previously. I've personally modded both them and lids to appear more frequently because the vanilla campaign really does waste them a bit.

>>153777474
>Also, would small launcher stunballs work
I believe stun damage works fine, can't remember though.

>>153777752
Isn't just Documents the equivalent? My openxcom folder (not the installation folder) was automatically placed their after installing openxcom.

If you have openxcom installed it should have a my documents folder somewhere.

>>153778464
Well, according to the download instructions, it says:

Just place the Area 51 folder in C:\Documents and Settings\User\Documents\OpenXcom\mods\

>>153778337
Do they? I never met one outside of terrors in vanilla.
Probably just RNG fucking with me then.

>>153778915
Yeah, so you should have a openxcom folder in your documents folder for whatever user you installed under.

What year is it supposed to be in XCOM 2? Trying to write some good bios.

>>153779915
2035 I think?

>>153779915
2035

>>153779191
Checked documents, found the Openxcom folder, and all I saw was save files and a .log file.

>>153781167
if there is no mod folder create it yourself and put the files there

>>153781414
Did so, no effects. I've asked about it on the forums, hopefully it works out.
Thanks for helping out.

>>153779039
I've always seen Berserkers in the Avenger Defense mission. There's at least one guarding the EMP spike every time, and occasionally there'll be one in the general pods charging the objective zone.

Does anyone know if there's an infantry Command and Conquer Tiberium Dawn voice pack? I've been searching but haven't found one. I've seen the commando one but that isn't what I'm after

>>153786657
Only C&C content on the workshop are a few voicepacks, neither of which is the one you want. There's a NOD commando around as well. No overall Tiberium Dawn pack though.

>>153786657
Only real C&C voice pack is the CABAL one which is pretty good

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>squad positioned in hard cover throughout gas station
>alien activity
>single drone flies over 3 trucks and clean across another 1/4 of the map's length to trigger a cyberdisc pod
>single drone from cyberdisc pod 2 flies over 3 trucks and does the same thing
>3rd cyberdisc pod teleports itself to the roof of the pumping station, drone flies down to our level and triggers disc

This terror mission in Kolkata, India was all robots except for one small floater group. Red team went out to test the new Phalanx body armor, and Sgt. Stone survived a flanking cyberdisc cannon to the chest with one hit point.

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Hey guys, wanna see something...?

Is the gauss long rifle actually worth making a build around, or should I just assume I'm going to upgrade to plasma eventually?

>>153788543
>sniper
Absolutely disconcerting.

>>153788795
A snapshot in the zone sniper is still a lategame effective build, but get's perks that are good for the long rifle (primarily lock n' load).
It is going to take you a long time to get to plasma rifles. So yeah, a couple snipers built as itz snipers won't hurt imo.

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>>153779915

2035. In other words, 1985-1997 is a good range for birth years of any EU/EW veterans you may have, and 2000-2017 for new ones. That's assuming you keep your average soldier somewhere around the 20-30 stretch.

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>>153789728

>not having kawaii anime teens killing ayys

>>153789728
>1985-1997 is a good range for birth years of any EU/EW veterans you may have
That makes me an EW veteran in XCOM 2's timeline. That's a good feel.

>>153789872
Uhhh?

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NOT EVEN CLOSE BABYYYYYYYYYY

>>153793669

>implying that's not a decoy facility where they actually manufacture burger wrappers and Bad Muton dildos.

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>>153793801
>implying both of those things aren't imperative to the avatar project

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>Started my 9th iron man run
>Still haven't made it past month 3

I'm losing it fellas.

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>>153794880

It's okay. You're right where you need to be.

>>153794483
What helmet is Reyes wearing?

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>>153794880
That's one of the Planetside 2 TR Helmet ones, it got pulled a while ago because of a copyright claim. I also heard people who reupload it got cease and desist e-mails and shit.
Lucky for you guys I have really poor judgement and put it in the OP Mega anyway

In other news, FUCKING FINALLY YES WE DO NOT DESERVE E3245

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=757607799

>>153795391
Fuck me quoting is hard >>153795087

>>153795391
>Tactical [music] will come later
what a tease

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>>153795391
>http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=757607799

HNGH

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>>153795391
>http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=757607799
Very good

>>153795391
Include the base mod (Music Modding System) as well. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=757398474

Guys, I really want the original sectoids from XCOM: LW back. There was always something so fun about killing those squishy little meatsacks... XCOM 2 got it all wrong by turning them into these fanged, man-sized monsters, and while subsequently dampening their combat abilities, no less.

Is there a mod to put the original sectoids back in the game, yet?

>>153798814
We almost did but than the modder went full autist

>>153798814
>while subsequently dampening their combat abilities
sectoids in X2 are stronger, the game just gimps them by making them appear alone early. A pod of 3 or 4 sectoids early would wreck squads.

>>153799359
this, it was always their mind merge + psi panic combo that started the disaster chain, a lone sectoid in long war is a joke.

>>153799270

What happened?

>>153799359

Well yeah, that's the point: When you're that early into the game, fighting more than one or two sectoids at a time would be tantamount to suicide because both of them are likely to succeed in their mind-control. Especially with A Better Advent and Better Pods/+ already on the table, you wouldn't want to deal with that more than once per pod. The problem is, that you essentially NEED these mods to make them even somewhat good, since otherwise they'll never do anything except waste turns reanimating corpses.

>>153799846

Can mind-fray also get some love up in this bitch?

All I'm saying is that sure, the new sectoids are more durable, and have access to abilities that are "theoretically" more powerful. The new mind control ability is especially good, and they did get psi-panic again, which is great too. That said, because many of its abilities are so much less practical, and also because the AI does not consistently rely on its best abilities, I find the sectoids in 2 are basically useless most of the time. I really preferred them when they were much more simple. They were much deadlier that way. A lone sectoid in 2 is just as much of a joke as its counterpart from 1, despite having better abilities and more health, which IMO is just unacceptable.

>>153800194
i heard that he had a mental breakdown and deleted everything

>>153801126

Oh my fucking Christ. So what, am I supposed to hope that Firaxis will just shove them in whenever they do the expansion?

Can we somehow fund this?

>>153802341

You could do it yourself.

>>153803796
Anons making things themselves? Not in MY /xcg/!

but seriously thanks to all our hard working anons