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DOE CUNT edition

>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: http://www.dota2.com/darkrift
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Cosmetic simulator: http://d2armory.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page
Want to upgrade to the superior DotA clone?: http://www.dotabuff.com/learn/lol

>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://yasp.co
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/

>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
http://www.gosugamers.net/
http://www.liquiddota.com/
livestreamer GUI: https://github.com/bastimeyer/livestreamer-twitch-gui

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DAILY 200% AMAZING BUILDS :

EPISODE 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ursa Bloodthorn

SEE YOU TOMMOROW
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HOW TO FIX NECROPHOS IN 6.89:

Heartstopper Aura:
>From 0.6/1.0/1.4/1.8% of max HP to 1.0/1.6.2.2/2.8% of current HP

Sadist:
>Remade entirely
>Whenever necrophos deals damage, he gains 8/12/16/20% of that damage as both life and mana spread out over 6 seconds. Effect is halved against creeps (4/6/8/10%)
>20/30/40/50% of all damage dealt to enemy heroes cannot be healed for 60 seconds.
>Includes all damage from spells, attacks, items, heartstopper aura.

Example:
>Necrophos hits an enemy with a dagon for 300 HP in damage
>Necrophos gains 10 hp/s regen and 10 mana/s regen for 6 seconds
>Enemy can't heal 150 from max HP for 60 seconds.
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>Pit Lord ultimate is an uncancellable AoE BoT
>>>this is balanced

>late-game comes
>you built something like Shivas, Pipe
>Atrophy Aura makes their right clicks dogshit
>decide the fight isn't good
>implying they can kill you in 3 seconds - can't even be stunned out of it

This is the most common usage of his ultimate I have seen so far and it's ridiculous to play against much less being a melee hero vs him during the laning stage where he just spams his ridiculous AoE spells with huge range and Atrophy Aura being fucky with you.
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why does ee have two drums on invoker
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>>153611150
you can't really sneak ganks with it because it makes a godawful noise and a curious dark magic orb appears
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>wake up
>EE stream

nice
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>>153611204
>ee
I think you have your answer already
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>say LUL in EE stream
>get banned
back to Moo stream
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give me 1 reason to build diffusal blade over of hotd and dominating the satyr

pro-tip: there is none
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>>153611076
>yfw you will never see a necrophos shy upskirt fanart while he wears panties

why even live
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>>153611407
I will spam waifus to atone
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>I was born just in time to see a "professional" player build two drums
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>Two drums BKB Bots Medallion Invoker
hate on him all you want but guys
he's winning this game
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>>153611234
That's kinda lame, especially when the description says "They come without warning".
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Hi, I have 2.6 strength growth don't ask why.
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Ghost Revenant is this guy.
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>double drums, vlads, bkb invoker
sldfnsfdl;
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>>153611680
>two drums and not a medallion
>but a VLADS
e-envy sama pls..
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>>153611849
>oh shit i suck! BETTER BUILD AURA ITEMS LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TEAM PLEASE CARRY ME

im just 500 more mmr til 6k, can't wait to slap him and post here
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my abusive girlfriend
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Why does this tooltip showup when stifling dagger hits something?
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>>153612316
beta valve just finished TI6 fuck off
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>>153612316
who cares?
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>>153612316
1. It's a beta
2. Lots of things going on behind the scenes
3. I forgot how this copy pasta went, something something its a free game I think
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wut
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>>153612448
brilliance
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>>153612374
The fact that you seem to get a large amount of bonus damage during the split second when dagger makes contact makes me think there might be an exploit here.
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>Activate remnant
Ember transcends the material realm, momentarily transforms his being into fire elemental to shift his position from 1 and reappear where his remnant is
<doesnt disjoint projectiles

>Pounce
Slark jumps
<disjoints projectiles
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>>153612448
this man will win ti7 screencap this
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>>153612448
>items bound to qweasd
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>>153612519
its called a crit, the dagger can do that now
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>>153612527
he's not even going to qualify
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Reminder that the following heroes still do not have an Aghs upgrade:

Anti Mage
Bounty Hunter
Broodmother
Chaos Knight
Clinkz
Death Prophet
Dragon Knight
Ember Spirit
Io
Lycan
Medusa
Phantom Assassin
Phantom Lancer
Riki
Slardar
Slark
Sniper
Spectre
Tamplar Assassin
Terrorblade
Troll Warlord
Underlord
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>>153612650
well i mean ee c9 qualified before so its not that farfetched
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>>153612520
Aghanims for Ember Spirit in 6.89:

>Fire Remnant charges from 3 to 5
>Fire Remnant recharge time from 35 to 25
>Fire Remnants now cast all of Ember Spirits skills when used. Each active remnant releases 2 extra bolas when spirit chains is cast, his fire remnants will cast sleight of fists with his same attack damage and modifiers and flame guard burns in an AoE around them. The same unit cannot be hit by multiple aoe's from multiple casts of the same spells.
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>>153612520
>dota logic
Daily reminder that tusk can snowball through Faceless Void's ZAAA WARRRUDOO.
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>>153612845
:--D
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>>153612752
yeah I feel pretty dumb now
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>>153611234
you sorta can if you tp onto lycans lvl 4 wolves.
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>>153612640
Do you not see the green numbers?
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>this image will no longer be relevant soon
the end of an era
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>>153613143
why pick pit lord at all when lycan can do it on his own?
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>>153612770
Finally people will discover the memetic potential of octameme core. I'm truly a visionary.
I stack 2 battlefuries, 2 daedalus and 1 octameme btw. Sometimes you are low HP, SoF niggers and come back full 50% HP and just manfight them until your next Sof which is like 3 seconds
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>>153613186
because you can teleport multiple heroes without everyone having travels
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>>153612770
real ember aghs:
flameguard is permanently on, when the magic absorb limit is reached all debuffs are purged and flameguard reactivates after 18/14/10/6 seconds
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>>153611767
3-5 seconds isn't much warning from the perspective of a defending army, to be fair
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>>153613228
>get octarine + arcane rune on ember spirit
>SoF into 16+ units
>cooldown < duration
>stay permanently invulnerable
>????
>autowin game
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>>153613183
is EG still going to be a thing since their company soldout? Or is it just going to be Sadboys again?
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>>153613279
Anon proposes Aghs that pushes his skill ceiling even higher and makes him even more fun to play

>you propose mirana tier aghs do nothing league of lesbians tier balancing
and with a straight fucking face
what's wrong with you?
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>>153613412
it's not a proposal, you didn't hear it from me tho.
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give me one reason to pick anything other than a late-game carry every again
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>>153611767

you can by having someone use invis on the creep.
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>>153613695
You can't last hit for shit, don't lie to yourself anon. Now go and buy me some wards like the bitch you are.
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>>153613815
Last-hitting takes what, a few days of self-imposed bootcamp to utterly perfect?

That is literally the most straightforward skill in dota to improve upon.
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>>153613815
lmao you dont need to last hit when jungling from level 1
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>Envy's stream
this is literally fucking unwatchable
how does he keep getting away with this
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>>153613362
probably going to reform under Alex Garfield as sadboys
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HAPPENING
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DOTA 2 @DOTA2 2m2 minutes ago
Arriving tomorrow, the Warhammer: Treasure of the Old World introduces designs from the Warhammer universe to the heroes of Dota 2.

HOYPE
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>more design destroying shit like the TI invoker set
yay
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WE TF2 NOW
ITS ALL FUCKING OVER

NEW THREAD
>>153544257
>>153544257
>>153544257
>>153544257
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>>153614343
>>153614356
Daemonette skin?
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>Mid or Peru

What did EE mean by this?
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RTZ STREAM
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>>153614565
HOLY SHIT ITS HAPPENING

ARIZONA TEA BOYS WW@
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JUST
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IM BACK GOD DAMMIT!!!from 4.1 to 3.2(messing around like a retard/random every game) and now 3.7...all of this 2months!
things i learn:
1.if you want to win just pick meta
2.if you team is chatty just mute them all right away
3.try picking cores and buy wards yourself if you have to
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>>153614949
Congrats lad
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>>153614914
>tfw we wont get that one

feels bad man
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>>153614914
this is not sugoi
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Who's the rainman of Dota?

Ehome.Eleven?
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>>153614565
>stream is offline
>chat is still being absolutely spammed

wew
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post em
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>>153615140
Saska always has that dead look in his eyes, although that might be from the resident DC succubus draining his soul
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>>153615220
>Win with
>50%
>40%

Confirmed for anchor anon.
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>>153614713
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>>153611489
isnt it the most cost efficient agi item besides yasha?
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>carry a game
>feel a sense of accomplishment
>check enemy laner's profile
>500 hours
God damn, that isn't fair.
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>>153614553
TA is cute
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>>153615449
delet this
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holy shit
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7:17 Arteezy: LUL
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STREAM CANCELLED
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>>153615548
What makes her cute?
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>Hundreds of people in Arteezy stream chat
>Even Arteezy is there himself
>But he's not streaming
arteezy....
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>>153615672
7:19 Arteezy: DoritosChip

what did he mean by this guys
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>>153615730
>>153615723
>>153615672
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New aghanims for chaos knight:

>Chaos Bolt stun duration from 2-4 to 2-7
>Chaos Bolt damage from 150-275 to 150-550

>Reality Rift offset range from 30-80% to -50-160% to

>Chaos Strike from 10% chance to deal 275% and -5 armor to 10% chance to deal 425% and -10 armor

>Phantasm illusions from 3-4 to 3-8
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>>153615728
It's a secret
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who came first?
doflamingo or arc warden?
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>Reddit's favorite streamer starting back up
>All the redditors here shibboleth themselves

Pretty funny
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9:28 You are permanently banned from talking in arteezy.
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>>153616596
kook
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>It's not the International
>Dota becomes completely irrelevant

How do we fix this?
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>>153616851
Play the game.
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Why do people care so much about Arteezy and his fucking stream???idgi
1.Shit Music
2.Long Queue
3.light to none commentary
4.Garbage chat(obv as its twitch)

????
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>>153616851
dota has less of a stream culture because more of its playerbase actually like playing compared to the other games
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>>153616851
with my dick in your butt
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>>153616851

>two non-video games have more viewers

Jesus, the doto really is dead.
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>>153616851
>twitch as a baseline for a game's popularity
Yeah look at those kids fapping at lol streamers
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>>153616982
>light to none commentary

You're not fooling anyone, Barnyyy.
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>>153617014
more like its playerbase is inept morons that dont know how to use the internet to find a website like twitch

people just come to dota from the free to play page on steam
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Aui is on EG confirmed
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NO MEXICANS!
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>>153617502
Oh god no not again
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>anime music

Is he literally our guy
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>>153617621
of course don't forget to go to

betyouritems.com
moosbetshop.net
momamoosplayhouse.org
sunfanisajew.oven
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>it's been years since the addition of the arcade
>minigames still fucking suck dongs
mh dotards?
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>>153617019
Sauce?
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>>153617783
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>>153615672
>>153615723
>>153615730
>>153615824
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>>153618405
im Nrootn

ama
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>>153618405
30minutes ago fyucking retard
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Has the gulag ever tilted so hard you started to throw?
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>>153618559
no because im not a psychopath Nahaz
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>playing Dota at 5 AM
>give up first blood because Drow didn't skill gust or frost arrows and WR didn't skill shackle
>Slark can't hit pounces or use his Q
>Drow uses Gust 3 times in a 50 minute game
>Axe AFK jungling while you lose towers to creeps

Is the time between 4 and 6 AM some magical shitter timezone? I have great games all evening and late night and then suddenly it's like I end up in a completely different matchmaking bracket where everyone has downs and no one knows how to use his skills.
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>>153615220
I had no idea I'd played with this many random shitters. There's more further down the list but only against and a whole bunch of 0% winrates.
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>>153618828
thats why you should play good heroes that don't rely on their team to win
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12 min queue wtf is going on
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>>153619032

Everyone switched to League. RIP Doto.
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>>153619223
Is Dagon the most underrated item in Dota history?
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>>153618978
It's not about winning, it's about game quality. The other teams were just as shit as mine. Maybe the better players are normies and wageslaves and all that's left after 4 am are AnimeNEETs and private profile shitters.
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Hey Liquid I saw that article you made and it said Jerax is gone!
You need a support right?
Hehehe I'm available right now , I've played for TI5 champs EG and Shanghai Major champs Team Secret btw also I heard that you use clockwork as a support?
I can do him more justice because you know me that clockwork guy from TI3!
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holy hell envy is fucking terrible
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Hello fellow anime friends!
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rate my last games 4chan
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>>153619348
no
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>>153619950
literally a FREE midas if you stack camps with a Wildwing
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>>153619910
Ravindu Poo in the Loo aka Ritsu The Deodorizer
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>tfw you realize ppd's gonna announce his new rosters at pax
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>>153619465

>yfw you realize Bulba invented tinker BoTs rush and max march

god of robot heroes
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>>153617482
t. Streamcuck
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What did he mean by this?
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>>153620378
He didn't tho, that was some other NA shitter who is like 4k today.
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>>153620458
it means VP of Estonia Dude is on suicide watch
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>>153617482
That would explain a lot about my games. I'm 2.5k and 80% of the people in my games are preteens from third world shitholes.
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Is it just me or has Artour become really thin lately?
He's lost all the muscles he had
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>>153620729

he never had any muscles ya nonlifting fag

muscles aren't good for doto

just look at fly, that fucko will NEVER win a TI
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>>153620729
he's always been a skinnyfag though
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What the actual fuck?

>isp going fubar, dc and get 3 abandons in 1 week
>first lpq since 2014
>5 games
>put on a movie, semi afk, but still playing and not cliff jingling btw
>lose all 4 games
>they don't count you need victories but it still counts as a loss

Holy shit it's going to take me atleast 10 hours just to get out of lpq that I didn't even deserve I honestly might just quit the game, as a 4.8k player being matched with 1k primates constantly flaming and saying shit like kill steal or taking runes.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/50ne52/riot_esports_director_and_boss_implicated_in/

why was this posted in the last thread? and what effect does it have on dota?
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>>153618828
If you have high behavior score, the matchmaking can't find any good players to pair you with at odd hours.
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>>153620938
oh good more news of league imploding and lolbabies coming over here asking what they should main, just kill me now
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>>153620832
>muscles aren't good for doto
>just look at fly, that fucko will NEVER win a TI

You might be on to something.
Korok was a powerlifter i think.
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How is the desolator build on phantom assassin the most viable? It has no attack speed at all.
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>It´s back
STREAM ALREADY YOU FUCK
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>>153621389
youre right
if only PA had some sort of ability that gave attack speed
oh shit, you know what would be neat but really OP? if that same ability also let her blink to enemies
haha too bad she'll never have an ability like t hat
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>>153621275

and h4nni

i'd say there's only 2 or 3 actual lifters in the entire dota scene

>fly
>h4nni
>korok(?)
>demon****

so really 2 or 3
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HELP ME VG I ATE TOO MUCH CAKE AND NOW CANT PLAY SOME DOTES

WAT DO
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why's it only always two pooled tangos?
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>>153621482

The dankest meme with PA for years has been not to build attack speed because she has a single ability that gives a MoM active for a few attacks.

Which means against BKB, Linken's, or Lotus you are even more buttfucked. Crit scales HARDEST with attack speed and not damage.
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>>153621534
non native here , is pooled really a word?
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>>153621836
ye

I pooled out of ur mum last night
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>>153621275
>>153621494
https://twitter.com/ushdota

Him too.

I think there was a video of him OHP lmao1plate.
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>>153621836
well what would you call it then?
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>>153621534
1 isn't enough, 2 is usually enough to last until bottle.
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>>153621836
pool2
poÍžol/Submit
verb

past tense: pooled; past participle: pooled
(of two or more people or organizations) put (money or other assets) into a common fund.
"they entered a contract to pool any gains and invest them profitably"
share (things) for the benefit of all those involved.
"a pooling of ideas"
synonyms: combine, amalgamate, group, join, unite, merge; More
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>>153621605
PA has no built in +damage and built in +130 damage and 1 free attack every 6 seconds from long range. She's also got high agility and low base damage
everything she has scales badly with attack speed compared to other heroes and well with damage items

>. Crit scales HARDEST with attack speed and not damage.
no it doesn't
crit scales exactly the same for attack speed and damage

DPS = damage * aspd * crit / BAT

none of damage, aspd, crit or bat scale better or worse with each other, only better or worse in relative amounts to what you already got
getting +52.5% DPS from coup de grace is +52.5% whether you get your dps from aspd or damage
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>>153621605
if the hard carry rushed bkb you'll still out damage them
PA is a mid game carry, by the time everyone elses bkb comes online you're useless anyways unless you snowballed
rush attack speed for one of the shittiest crits in the game and see how far you get ya dip
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>>153622006
grant tweeted about it but it's deleted now
https://twitter.com/grandgrant/status/567173181325049856
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>>153620865
nah,
source: i look like that and i'm ripped
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>>153621605
>Crit scales HARDEST with attack speed and not damage.
Not exactly true, and dagger doesn't scale with attack speed at all. Also the MoM active is on a 5 second cooldown dude
>>153622212
You potentially "lose" damage to overkill if you favor damage over attack speed, but it's still way more efficient to build damage when you have +130 for 4 attacks on a 5 second cooldown
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>>153621605
PHANTOM STRIKE PIERCES SPELL IMMUNITY U FUCKIN NOOB
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>>153622583
i phantom strike your asshole and pierce the condom
what do
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Kuro to Kaipi
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WHY IS COUP DE GRACE WORSE AT LEVEL 1 THAN BLADE DANCE

WHY
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>>153611767
Spirit Breaker Charges and uses Shadow Blade
Use Dark Rift on said Spirit Breaker, but time it correctly

Ez gank, gg
I agree, this is somehow balanced. The same if you win teamfight lategame, and one of the creep waves is over the mid of the map
>>
Dota 2
>>
test
>>
beta
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>>153623345
>Get level 1 Coup
>Throw level 3 dagger
>Crit
>500 damage nuke
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>>153620474
fry33?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO3j9lUYFfo
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r/dota2 is the most elite community in dota 2
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>>153624778
at least they dont have Tiago
>>
why the fuck cant i play fucking ranked
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>>153624832
who's tiago?
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>>153625010
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How to fix phantom assassin in 6.89:

>Coup de grace no longer has 15% chance to trigger
>Coup de grace now has 100% chance to trigger when it would be fatal
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>>153625150
You're just encouraging meme builds at that point. Maybe as an aghs.
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hello?
>>
dont reply to hello poster
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is EE a better 1 than 2?
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>>153625150
To fix PA:
Aghanims Scepter Upgrade:
EVERYTHING has a chance to crit.
Phantom Strike can crit and give 585 attack speed
Blur can crit and give 225% evasion
Mek can crit and heal 1125 HP instead
Iron Branch can crit and spawn 4.5 trees
Dagon can crit
Shivas can crit
Tango can crit giving 4.5x regen
EVERYTHING can crit
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>>153625695
>death can crit with timer multiplier
>aegis can crit to revive you 4.5 times
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>>153625681
Support actually
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>>153625695
>Blur crits
>Enemy gets disarmed for 2/3/4/5 seconds

>Blink Strike crits
>Enemy gets rooted and Muted
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is Dota 2 officially dead now?

Like was there even a TI??
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>>153625695
now this is a meme i can get behind
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>>153625695
>gold from minion can crit giving you 200g
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>>153626120
there was but chinks won it so nobody cares
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>>153625827
what happens if buyback crits?
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umm doturds we already have an rng hero named chaos nig
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I heard dotards are gay, is this true?
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why is the thread so dead
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>Get my first couple of very high skill ranked games
>Get utterly blown the fuck out
I might as well quit now.
Been playing since 2013 and I've got a good feeling I'm not going to get any better at this game. Getting too old for this shit.

Pic related, I was the underlord
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>>153627057
wish i knew anon
this is actually the most dead i've ever seen /d2g/

i've been playing granblue fantasy lately
that game is completely dogshit but the /vg/ thread for it is fast and full of waifuposters
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>>153627057
>why is the thread so dead
It got invaded by shitskins and redditors who just want to meme and shitpost, and not actually discuss things.
To top it off, people who make OC get bullied off the general.
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>>153627176
alch was on your team

you were doomed
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how ded is hon?
i don't want to deal with the 6.8- meta anymore
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>>153627057
too busy playing better games :^)
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>watch all International archives
>all features past TI champs and h0neylans
lmfao its so obvious they are setting up h0neylans as the next big Dendi and Fear for the potential sequel for Free to Play , he even was the one who played pitlord on the all stars
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>>153628363
>i don't want to deal with the 6.8- meta anymore
me fucking either

slark/timber/faceless/mirana are in each of my games
It's fucking cancer.
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New aghanims for troll warlord

>EVERYTHING can be Battle Tranced
>Affects towers, creeps, summons, illusions, exorcism ghosts, serpent wards, everything
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>>153628682
>al the chemist
>can give allies aghs
>selfish
hmmm
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>>153628679
>catapulsh becomes the dominant strat
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are we dead?
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>>153628863
>Al-The-Chemist
>Can self stun
>Jewish abilities

Hmm....
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>That one friend who claims he's better than you because he has more kills even though you're support and have a higher MMR
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>>153629394
>Alchemist
>proud warrior who is controlled by a small hook nosed fellow that creates wealth without contributing to society and puts dangerous chemicals in the water supply of those under him

What is Valve trying to say?
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>roots now prevent all self inflicted force movement like time walk or ball lightning or skewer or timber chain or pounce
discuss
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um, hello?
dotards?
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>rupture now works like mana leak
discuss
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Yes hello?
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>aghanim's now gives a permanent refraction charge to ta
discuss
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>>153630371
Great
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>>153630371
so she literally never takes damage?
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>aghanim's pa now causes stifling dagger to proc phantom strike
discuss
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>>153630449
why does she have a split in her secret? Or does she have 2 secrets?
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>aghanim's et now causes echo stomp to disarm as well
discuss
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>>153630452
Yes, you need axe + TB to kill her
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>>153630567
That's where her clit (dick) is, anon.
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>>153630753
It looks like 2 bananas
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>>153630815
?
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>aghs tinker now gives rearm zero cooldown
discuss
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>>153631049
u w0t?
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>>153631049

>rubick with spellsteal becomes an even better version of tinker
>>
>dagon now steals mana equal to damage inflicted and has a 25% chance to crit

discuss
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r8 my hero

quas
make you are attacks silence enemies and gives bonus damage

wex
low manacost and deal a small amount of magic damage to the target, and slow them significantly for a short amount of time

exort
charge to the target point, attacking anyone you pass through, procs quas

invoke
target an area globally, any enemies in that area have their vision massively reduced and no longer share vision with their allies
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>WAKE UP
>SEPTEMBER 1
>VALVE PROMISE CHEST IN SEPTEMBER 6 MONTHS AGO
>S-SORRY GUYS WE'LL GIVE IT TOMORROW
>SEPTEMBER 2
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>some shitter tries to argue that tread toggling is a waste of time on sven
>look up his mmr
>2.3k
>48% winrate
holy kek my fucking sides are in orbit
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>>153631224
>>153631049
I see what you're doing here faggot
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>that feel when I channel my inner clan_iraq and stop purchasing Linken's or BKB on any hero which are just BadLotusOrbs

>that feel when winrate skyrocketing

WHO HERE ENLIGHTENED BY THEIR INNER CLAN_IRAQ?
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>>153631309
isn't this a league of legends hero?>>153631407
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how is transitioning from League of Legends to Dota?... I kinda want to get into it after seeing SingSing streaming.
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>>153631430
forget everything except the ability to lasthit, nothing else really carries over. and lasthitting will take practice because of dota attack animations.
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>>153631430
>how is transitioning from League of Legends to Dota?
Your super elite platiniumed diamond horsecock supersheriff badge means nothing here.
You're gonna be a shitter for a while.
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>>153631430
Is watching Sing as a non-dota player really that enjoyable?
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>try game for the first time
>browse the 113 selection of heroes
>no loli hero
shit game tbqh famiglia
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>>153630006
Marmalade?
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>Enemy legion is lvl 19 at 20:30
>196 duel damage
>Check replay.
>Has literally averaged a duel victory every 56 seconds since 7 minutes after the first 2 didn't do anything.

I've gotta finish up my smurf for ranked. My real life friends are doing weird shit to my matches. I wasn't getting this many absurdly one sided games 3 months ago.
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>>153631653
did you never walk into her fuckign jungle to gank her?
I swear to god 2k players never can grasp the concept of "stopping someone from freefarming"
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>slark is balanced

what did the operating system frog mean by this
>>
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>>153631430
>Turn rates are going to seriously fuck you up.
>EVERYTHING is more brutal. Mana costs are higher, but disables are much more powerful.
>Couriers are amazing
>TPs are amazing
>Power Tread softly and carry a magic stick.
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>>153631630
brain damaged pedoNEET
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>>153631630
Nice try, but you are going to have to work harder for me to post loli pugna.
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>>153631756
>hurr I let the slark freefarm and now he's killing me imba!!!
every time someone complains about slark they are saying this
literally just fucking gank him before level 6
that's literally all you have to do
do it early and often.
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How do I build "new" Void?
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Question


Why did enigma take the world chasm artifcay from cedric? Isnt enigma already canonically powerful? What powers would it give enigma?
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>>153631747
LC just needs level 6 and Phase boots to start snowballing desu senpai if his team isn't a bunch of mongoloids
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>>153631774
Looks like a turd tbqh famalam.
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>>153631885
if you need to be your team's damage, vlads>diffusal>manta
if you just need to land sick chronos for your team to dump damage into, vlads>blink>whatever you need after
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>>153631865
I legit don't like playing WK because he's not SK now and I'm sure a lot of people feel the same way. You felt cool balling out of control now you're just a faggot with a croissant beard.
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>>153631881
Literally 80 percent of pro games he gets out of hand and wins singlehandedly

>J-jusf ward his jungle
>J-jusf gank him

Just like the people who defend bs like pre nerf lycan or cent
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>>153631885
Dagon soulring octarine
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>>153631958
or, here's an idea, you could delay her level 6 by
ganking her you idiot
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>>153631885
Iron Talon, Treads are core for him.

If you want utility you build Vlads>Blink>Aghs/Whatever

If you want to carry
Diffusal/Manta after Treads

Vlads on carry Void is still good, gives him a regen item that satisfies health and mana.
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>>153631890
>Caring about fucking dota lore

It's LITERALLY worse than GMMRs tripe
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>>153631989
I know that feel all too well anon.
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>>153631981
>>153632103
No Echo?
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>>153631747
I'm ~4.5k. It's not that. It's the insane MMR disparity. The LC was a 6.9k player, and the average MMR for both teams that game was about 4.3k. Quite literally we were blown the fuck out by someone who is 5 times as good as any of us.

Ever since I started playing with IRL friends on my main account the disparity between MMR in my games has gone through the roof. Sometimes I'm the one with a 6k+ player. Sometimes it's the enemy team. Either way, 90% of the time it's a one sided stomp. Not going to lie, I've learned a lot in the past month because I've basically had my spleen ripped out through my nostrils in lanes, but some of these games are just getting tedius.

My smurf which is at 5.1k and I only use to spam 3-4 heroes on has never had things get this bad except at like 4 AM. With my main account it's at least a third of my games right now.
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Lotta thirdies on at this hour.
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>>153632017
you're pulling that out of your ass, the only games slark wins in pro scene are the ones where they have like only a batrider or something as their lockdown
slark does not do that well int he pro scene
also, you aren't a fucking pro, if you literally just go gank him and delay his level 6+sblade+echo you have a very good chance to win because an underfarmed slark is useless
you're just too fucking shit to go gank someone and you would rather blame your loss on heroes rather than your play
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>>153632143
Oh shit I forgot about that, yeah Echo is actually really good - essentially makes your bash like 50% chance to proc really and fixes some mana issues. I'd get after Vlads - if you're going Diffusal/Manta don't bother.
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>>153631885
pms>midas>radiance>mjollnir/echo>whatever you need
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>>153632143
echo is memey and it can work but usually you just want your diffusal or blink faster
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>>153632290
>Midas, Radiance

>PMS - not situational
>needing PMS at all when you can just timewalk off major damage and rely on a stout shield
stop
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>>153632290
>hurr let me just farm midas and radiance as an offlaner
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Are phantom assassins capable of loving?
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>>153632362
put pms isn't for the major damage its for the minor damage
you time walk any nukes and pms the autoattacks
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>>153632261
>Hero requires enemy team to invest a ton in including a lot of coordination and luck to keep down

>While said hero can basically 1v5 , always escape death and FREE deward with his permanently hasted and Regen runed self

Yeah OK
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>>153632540
Yes
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>>153632819
no, literally just fucking gank him and keep him from snowballing, but every 2k just wants to passive farm until they lose instead of changing the way they play to deal with an enemy hero.
an underfarmed slark is literally useless and all they can do is farm their jungle to try to catch up, during which time you either gank them more or just 5 man down their towers while his team is playing 4v5
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>>153633016
Cute, post more like this
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>>153632179
do you mind linking the LC replay
i want to watch it
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>>153633137
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>Elder titan stomp is pretty much inescapable without boots
when is this fucker getting nerfed
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>Try to play TA because lmao ranged 100% cleave
>Cleave margin for error is tiny
>Attack range is tiny
>In fact, it is actually less than a melee hero without levels in Psi Blades
Am I missing something that makes this hero good or is it actually shit?

I'm probably just spoiled by Kunkka's cleave where you just sorta have to look in the general direction of the enemy team for a rampage.
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>>153628682
Enchantress' that actually goes to offlane and harasses are far from selfish
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>>153634057
>just spoiled by Kunkka's cleave
You are.
A single point in Psi Blades allows you to trade and last hit creeps at the same time.
Creeps also walk in straight lines, making cleave easy.
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>>153634057
TA is huge on position but why she's supposed to be good is Refraction damage charges aren't lost on denies abut they still apply the admage and Psiblades works on denies which means you're supposed to deny EVERYTHING.
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>>153634057
yeah TA is actually shit
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Good jokes mate real funny See you at FUCK YOUJ
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>be sub 3k
>pa mid every game spamming dagger
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>>153634057
Well what made her good was her blink + meld combo with refraction charges on.

She's suppose to burst supports down and snowball from it.

But because of badDazzle and goodDazzle, she has fallen out of favor.
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>>153634528
just magic stick out mate
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>>153634528
>PA instead of a mid with over 600 HP
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>>153634601
still ends up not mattering when they get to level 6
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>>153634528
>be over 3k
>medusa mid every game spamming snake
getting real tired of these meme mids
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>>153634714
>Medusa instead of a hero that does damage lategame
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>>153634768
Just because you build shitty meme builds on Medusa doesn't mean we all do
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>>153634768
>medusa doesn't deal damage lategame
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>>153634714
>be slightly over 4k unranked mmr
>invoker mid every game spamming alacrity
>try to slow him down by ganking him with es spirit
>get raped by cold snap
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>>153634816
>>153634824
Smart Medusas (i.e. /d2g/) are not pub Medusas.

Every pub Medusa builds Manta/Linken's and hopes to be like DK where the enemy team blows all their damage on her and everyone else can go to town.
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>>153634528
She has to be out of position to lasthit mid.
So literally:
1. Plant a ward so you have highground vision
2. You can block at every single creep wave, not just the first one
3. She can't Blink Strike to towers. She needs to be saved by a ally
4. She has no HP
5. She needs levels for Dagger to become a problem

>>153634714
>Try to bully Dusa out of lane
>She stacked the nearby camp, and one of them is now satyrs
>She literally regains all her mana and comes back richer
>Anytime when Dusa manages to hit you with Snake after ranged creep
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>>153633206
I don't link anything anymore. The last time I did some autist spent 5 months trying to harass and intimidate me on steam/reddit/d2dev. All because my name/avatar combo triggered them after I called them out in a d2g thread about how wrong they were about a bugged mechanic, and linked them a match to prove it.

Mental illness is a helluva drug.
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>>153631890
cuz it looks bad ass
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>be under 3k
>kunkka mid every game spamming tidebringer
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>>153634836
>Invoker instead of a hero with escapes
Err...
>Invoker instead of a hero with harass
Hmm...
>Invoker instead of a hero with kill potential
Umm...
>Invoker instead of a hero with scaling
Huh. Good job Icefrog you made a hero with literally no weaknesses.
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>>153635035
>playing kunkka mid instead of a real mid hero
kunkka is only cancer because he's betterDisruptor and I fucking called support kunkka ages ago but people kept saying it would never happen
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>>153634714
>be 6k
>spam Invoker most of my games
>lose
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The only time I would recommend linken's on medusa is when there is a bat or a shouty dude on the other team, or maybe antimage since you are a nuclear bomb if he manavoids you
literally no other times is it good.

casual yasha is ok but ultimately not all the good
manta is hot doodoo and only get it if you hate your team and you want an enemy earthshaker to do more damage so the game ends faster
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>>153620378
but BoTs rush and maxing BadIlluminate first is a terrible gamelosing build that screams "GIVE ME ALL THE FARM I HAVE A GAME TO LOSE"
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Is Kunkka the CIA hero?
>Blue color scheme
>Admiral, basically boat police
>Crashes large vehicles with no survivors
>Wants to be a big guy (carry with Tidebringer)
>But outclassed by bigger guys and relegated to a small guy role (support with X)
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>>153635241
>be invoker
>get dumpstered in lane
>just recover your game by farming woods with spirits/midas/sunsttrike kills
>drop a meatball on a teamfight and kill everyone
>splitpush constantly with spirits+alacrity
>if you get ganked just qqwalk away
invoker is actually so ridiculous if you're good at him, idk how you can lose games with that hero
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>>153611150
>Playing Morph or Slark against Pitlord lategame
It's okay, I didn't wanna do any damage anyways
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>>153635362
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>>153635336
God damn it /tv/. The worst part is it makes some sense.
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JUST DARK RIFT OUT
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>>153613987
>be jungle
>somehow fail to last hit creeps
???
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>>153635418
>https://clips(DOT)
TWITCH(DOT)
tv/eternalenvyy/ProudFinchKippa
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>Mirana's starstorm is now smart enough to not hit a dead unit on the second time
>Wraith King can now toggle his lifesteal so it doesn't affect units when he doesn't want it to
>Kunkka can now toggle tidebringer so it doesn't affect units when he doesn't want it to

>Weavers geminate attack is still 'dumb' and you have 0 control over it
Hello?
Valve?
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>>153635595
More like

>Necrophos Aura isn't toggleable
>can never gank/invis because enemies start losing health and say "Hey Necrophos is nearby"
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>>153620378
>>153620474
It was a pub player called Virot2 or something
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>>153635593
EE never fails to deliver.
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HOW DO WE FUCKING FIX VISAGE
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>>153635762
make birds less useless
they die to literally any ranged carry
echo saber makes them useless
dragon lance makes them useless
visage is literally only good vs 0-mobility heroes, of which there basically are none
also birds tickle past minute 10
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>>153635172
dotards used to think that supports need to be ranged, remember when people said omni wasn't viable?
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>>153635878
tbf the only reason kunkka/omni/ogre are viable now is because they got ridiculously buffed
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>>153635878
>dotards
>>>dotards used to think


you mean lolbabs coming to dota who think all carries must be ranged and supports or else they'll lose the poke war
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Reminder that if you
>Keep wards in stock
>Keep 3 smokes in stock
>Don't harass enemy offlaner
>Draw creep aggro when harassing enemy offlaner
>Sit behind carry and sap xp instead of pulling for xp
>Single pull
>Don't single pull before a push
>Don't carry a tp min 1 if another lane gets ganked
>Ward runespots past min 15
>Don't stack camps if you got spare time
>Don't rotate and gank if possible
>Don't die so your core lives on
>Die needlessly because you can't position yourself (Supports dying don't matter XD)
>Don't pool tangos
>Don't buy a salve so you can salve your carry
>Take any last hits without asking in laning phase
>Don't occupy empty lanes for xp
>Be low level and poor later on because you don't know where to find gold/xp
You're a bad support cuck and should play bot games only.
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>>153620729
hes like 15
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>>153636045
only thing i dont do or do rarely is pooling tangoes
that fucking faggot midlaner can buy his own, that kind of min-maxing doesnt matter when he misses 3 cs from the first wave
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>>153636226
It's more for the morale
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>>153636226
but he wouldn't have missed these 3 CS if he had had the 3-5 damage the gold he had to spend on regen would have bought him desu senpai
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>>153636360
nah honestly below like 4.5k your mid matchup is entirely dependent on who is less retarded, and I'll give them a tango or 2 but I know it doesn't really make a difference. mainly I do it so they don't tilt out of control and blame me for not teleporting to save them when they dive the enemy t2 and feed
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>>153636226
This shit pisses me off so much.

So many people in 4.5k think they should do this, and they don't understand WHY pros do it. Pros can hit the item timings to make it worth while. If you are shit, you can't. So stop fucking around, and adjust your itemization to handle that.
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>>153631345
i seriously do not understand why do people consider tinker as a pushing hero when he clearly pushes weaker than a creepwave
he is clearly a teamfight hero which sits back and delivers a diarrhea of rockets
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>>153636462
Grats, you have discovered the true secret to gaining mmr. Not being technically good, not even having good map awareness, though that helps. It's keeping your 4 retards off tilt
>>153636480
It's for the retard mids morale, don't question it, just give him a good game. Most supports should buy 2 sets of tangoes to harass and give to the pos 1 anyways, so it's fine to give some away
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>>153636548
He's an antipush/lane control hero more than a pusher.

They are different things.
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>>153636548
because he can usually splitpush without anyone being able to stop him
it's not because he can do tons of building damage, it's because he can splitpush without consequence and still attend fights
>>153636573
the problem is when you're the only support and you have to buy tangos/a salve for your retard safelaner who didn't buy one/wards/smokes/sentries

like u literally don't have enough gold to buy all the shit you need and yet your midlaner is begging for fucking tangoes. I'll give him 1 or 2 if I can but sometime I just have to be able to deward my pull camp or some shit and I can't afford to.
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I fucking love Dragon Lance. It's like Valve woke up one day and said:
>Let's make an item that's mandatory for every ranged hero that even occasionally rightclicks
Hell, the buildup is so easy and the stats alone are so good Meepo buys it. GJ Valve
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>>153636895
dragon lance, echo saber, wind lace are all getting nerfed to shit next patch
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>>153636462
>>153636480
I'm only 3.1K but even here mids tilt when they don't get 2 tangos.
Are they really all shit? I always thought they had better mechanics than a lowly offlanecuck like me.
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>>153635336
>WOMEN AND CHILDREN AND KUNNKA FIRST

Too bad Tidehunter isn't named Bane
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I really don't understand how low 4k players even play dota. Like where the FUCK do they come up with their item and skill builds? You could follow literally any guide and come up with a better build than the shit these guys manage.
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>>153637049
anon, if they were good they wouldn't be 3k, now would they?
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>>153637003
>echo saber
>nerfs
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>>153636045
>Draw creep aggro when harassing enemy offlaner
>implying re positioning creeps into a better spot for your carry is a bad thing
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>Storm builds scythe
>everyone on team tells him to hex the carry magnus with no bkb
>he scythes bh while our entire team gets fucked
GOD WHY IS EVERY STORM PLAYER AUTISTIC
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>>153637095
4k is just knowledgeable enough to think they're good but not enough to actually be good
>>153637131
every time you pull creep aggro you are pushing the lane you fucking ape, it isn't that hard to zone the offlaner without fucking lane equlibrium
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>>153637003
Echo Saber is okay, at least it isn't mandatory on absolutely every melee carry, just a fair share.

Wind Lace is limited by the fact you have to choose between Drums (a downgrade) and Eul's (most often a waste of gold) when you start running out of slots.
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>go lane
>can't get close to creeps
>go jungle
>get stable farm
doturds???
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>>153637003
You forgot raindrops

>Raindrops now give 0.17 mana regen per charge
>can now only carry one stack at a time
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>>153637131
It is. It's like denying in most cases (unless the lane is heavily contested)
It fucks up your carrys lane, because every pos 1 player is used to taking care of their own creeps
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>>153637210
Are you really saying you don't push the lane just far enough so that you could pull the next wave and keep total control of your lane?
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>>153637241
echo saber is overpowered because of how efficient it is, the str+mana regen alone would make it a decent pickup on any mana starved hero who likes HP, but the doublehit+slow makes it godly for chasing people. calling it now either the slow or c/d of the slow is getting nerfed.
also you can just sell the fucking windlace if you don't want to upgrade it, it's worth the 115 gold investment simply for how strong the movespeed is early game
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>>153637245
>give enemy laner easy farm
>give them easy towers
>supports can focus ganking the 2 other lanes
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>>153636606
>>153636693
>skilling BadIlluminate
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>>153637292
yeah raindrops are pretty dumb
>pay 225 gold for better aquila regen
>oh also a free hood of defiance
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>tfw you're winning games with pos4 wind lace phase boots bottle LC by just running at the enemy

All I do is pull, secure runes and counter gank with some jungling inbetween
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>>153637245
>go trilane with underlord, Pugna, and Jakiro
>take rax by 6 minutes
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>>153637481
>hurr durr I'm too retarded to realize that march is good for farming and pushing lanes because there's no way to stop it from happening
yeah ok kiddo
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>>153637497
what bracket famalam
because I guarantee you you will be punished for being a melee support with no lockdown in any non-retard skill bracket
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>Enemy Tinker uses March four (4) times
>Turn on Blade Mail
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>That one dota friend you have that never shuts the fuck up about stupid shit that happens in his games
i don't care how fucking retarded your shitty 2k teammates were stop talking to me holy SHIT
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>>153637554
yeah except farming it on their own meaning you just delivered farm under enemy doorstep, not pushed
and then you get popped like a gold piniata
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>>153637245
>go lane
>be a shitter
>go jungle cos lanes are hard
>lose
retards??
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r8 this hero


quas
creates an ice element, levelling quas increases strength and each element active gives bonus regen
can only have 3 elements active

wex
creates a storm element, levelling wex increases agility and each element active gives bonus move and attack speed
can only have 3 elements active

exort
creates a fire element, levelling wex increases intelligence and each element active gives bonus damage
can only have 3 elements active

invoke
generate a spell based on the active elements, quas is related to slows and stuns, wex is related to movement, exort is related to damage
only 2 spells active at a time
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>>153637716
is this mishmash of words english?
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>>153637643
3K on EUW

I think it only works because people expect me to afk jungle a shadow blade. LC W and Q is pretty damn good to save your mid and there are a lot of AM pickers in my games so duel is valuable even if it takes me a while to become relevant without backup.
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>[Serious]Has twitch chat broken the pro scene?
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>>153637738
>21 spells
Yeah sure pal either this hero will be stupidly broken or most of them will be pointless.
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how do we fix EE?
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>>153637745
okay, i see, i'm wrong and you're right
continue achieving 35% winrate on tinker and going "b-b-but tinker is good i promise i just dixnt get enough farm"

i bet you actually bottle yourself outside of fountain you shitter
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>>153637808
ok yeah literally anything works in 3k
you could play support sven and it would probably work.
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>>153637692
>he uses Euls on himself to avoid the damage
>he then rearms and uses it on you 4 times just to taunt you and then TPs away

Why do people not build Euls on Tinker?

>FREE disjoint
>FREE pre Sheepstick disable
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>>153637909
you seem really mad friendo
the reason people get march is because it allows them to farm items without being dependent on the enemy feeding you
it's situational like most things in dota.
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Guys I'm really scared right now for Liquid.
Now that jerax left there's only a few people left that's available and I don't fucking want bulba anywhere near Liquid.
Fuck man he is such a fucking shit player his face pisses me off so much I hope he retires now.
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>>153637738
I dunno, wouldn't having shitloads of bonus regen and therefore a massive advantage in lane be a little much on what I presume is a pretty strong hero lategame?
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>>153637963
>be within 1200 range of an enemy
>die
thats why
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>>153637904
Mission Impossible
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>>153638064
Why you hate reggies son for?
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Pardon the intrusion my fine fellows, but it appears your current choice for a midlaner would utilize his farm to 85% of its capacity!

Forgive me if I come off as a bit bold, but if you reconsider and use my assistance, you get get this number down to 30%. That's almost as low as some supports!
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Serious question here, but what is the general consensus on Slacks around here?
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>>153612520
FWOSH GETTING
BLEACHED
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>>153638269
A spaz that I typically find a little annoying but don't complain about because I know where the fuck buggering mute button is.
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>>153638181
But if you have Euls then you can disjoint their spells and disable them and not die.

Hell you could keep the enemy cycloned and cast march a few times to clear the wave and act like they weren't even there
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>>153631981
>>153632103
>vlads, diffusal, manta for carry void
Epic no damage build.

Go linkens, mjollnir instead if you arent a shitter
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>>153638269
He's there for the normie crowd, I don't really care because Dota events have no reason to pander to our tastes
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>>153637963
Hmm... You would really have to consider how often you would use it given how-
>Makes enemy carry want to kill himself when you Eul's him for 3 minutes and not even your teammates can end his suffering
I'm sold.
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>>153638328
but /pol/ told me only beta nu-males get asian girlfriends
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>>153614407
I never understood the "le hero color theme"
like just go full tf2, I don't give a shit
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>>153637368
Or pulling the enemy melee creeps to the ranged creep so it dies first
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>>153638497
>disjoint their first stun
>get stunned after you land (you dont actually play in 4k trench where people stack their stuns, do you?)
even if they didnt have any stuns tinker would die during the rearm time because he is that squishy
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>>153638636
If you don't have a color scheme ,you have hats that don't mix and match
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>>153635336
Tell me about the sea creature, the watermelon.

Tidehunter?
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>>153638739
>Getting jumped by the whole enemy team
You understand why Tinker buys Blink, right?
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well i just played a game that is undeniable proof that forced 50 exists

>last picks 4th core goes solo offlane
>builds 28 min naked battlefury on PA
>doesnt speak english
>HAS 80 TOTAL HOURS IN DOTA 2
>BUT SOMEHOW SOLO QUEUES INTO VERY HIGH-5k

so then i go fucking look at his other games
he was in my god damn previous game where he begged for mid invoker and fed the shit out of the game

thanks valve
id like to see you try and weasel your way around that
fuck this game fuck your shit matchmaking
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>>153638741
overrated to match colors
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>>153611562
Heh, megasound
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>>153637369
>nerfing the worst item in the game
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>teammates keep misplaying the entire game
>whatever who cares
>misplay once for something that doesn't really matter
>get 4 retards screeching at me for the rest of the game
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why am i still here

why do i keep coming back

i dont like this game
its not even good.
i dont want to play it. i want to play something else. i have a huge backlog. life goes on and im still here.
fuck
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>>153639327
>Be the only glimmer of hope for team
>Lose game
>Wonder why everyone's mad
?
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>playing ebf on challenger
>finally get a group of people who know what they're doing
>server crashes on nyx
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>>153637369
If anything echo sabre needs a buff so all the retards who buy it dont instantly lose the game for me.
Literally the most gamelosing item ever that is only viable on sven, tiny and spirit breaker
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EVERYBODY WHIP YOUR NYX OUT.
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>completely dumpster someone
>check post game score screen
>it was an above average game for them
lmao
>>
barny playing on blitz party
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>>153637049
Core mechanics stop getting massively better once you get into the 4.5-5.5k range. At that point it's game sense, planning, and reactions that start mattering more. Mechanics still improve, but it's tiny incremental stuff like trading better, or controlling the lane better. A 7k player is thinking on an entirely different plain of reality than a 5k player, even if their mechanical ability is very similar. It's entirely possible for someone to have good mechanical skill, and fucking abysmal game sense and general knowledge keeping them at 5k.

Extremely high level players are going to move in random unpredictable patterns at times, but 5k players are staggeringly easy to read if you sit down and focus on nothing but what they are doing for a while. 3k players are more chaotic because they have no idea what they are doing, but you can still hedge your bets and learn to know where they simply CANNOT be as opposed to where they probably are. A 5k mid vanishing for a bit every couple of minutes is probably stacking and farming jungle camps. A 3k mid could be roaming, or going back to base because he's oom, and drooling over items in the shop.

Once in a while you'll come across the oddball like me at 5k that is mechanically awful, but spent 10 years laddering on WC3arena/bnet/etc, and appears to be this omnipotent roamer/splitpusher that puts you on tilt because you cant hide from me, and you can't catch me, but I'm a rarity. The people that can read me facefuck me in teamfights. The people that can't get killed by the cancer that is rat dota, or snowballing roamers.
>>
Barnyyy is currently on Blitzs stream
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I am the guy with like 90% winrate with Lycan, do you think I could autistically play him every game and get to 6k or 7k? I am 5.5 currently.
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I think I created a semi unique hero. He deals damage over instances and grants vision for his team, combos really well with anyone that deals multiple damage instances per second like Gyro, Kunkka, Tinker, Sandking, Dark Seer to name a few. Also good against Invis heroes.

I can't think of an ult for him though. Should it combo with his Mark? Should it be something defensive or offensive?
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>>153639963
>autism
>>
You're going highground and this motherfucker puts Static Charge on himself instead of the initiator. What do you do?
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>>153640184
commend him for his top play because the initiator is kind of useless after initiating
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>>153640091
Probably. Everyone has their very specific hero they can climb MMR with, it's not like it has to be in the meta.

Kind of like how Arteezy climbed through a lot of 7k with Windranger.
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>>153639825
that's a cute nyx you got there fambo
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>>153639825
>auspicious dagon
lmao
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>>153639072
>echo saber
>in any way bad
stay 1k forever I guess dude
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>>153639935
holy shit barny is alive?
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>>153640787
ayy fuck you I found it
>>
>go to literally ANY dota 2 stream
>twitch chat is like 50% RTZ stream shitposting
>RTZ isn't even on

An ocean of shitposting is coming
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oh my god this blitz stream is making me miss barnyy so much
hold me somebody
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Please vote for my Dragon Knight set in the workshop

thanks
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>>153641271
Sweet doom set
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"did he just get outplayed by a kotl?"
god damn barny is based
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http://www.dotabuff.com/blog/2016-09-01-arc-warden-is-back-with-a-vengeance

Uh dotards? I was told AW was a shit hero
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>>153641496

This general was literally calling out mid AW as ultracancer.

The nerfs killed safelane AW and any hope of support AW
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I was bored so I just went to check the /new/ section on r/dota2

holy sweet jesus that's like d2g on steroids.. I thought d2g was stupid, how ignorant I was
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>>153640870
>10 str
>10 int
>15 damage
>10 attack speed
>75% mana reg
>double hit with 5s cooldown
>2.6k gold
Its just way too fucking expensive for how hard it falls off.
Compare it to a dragon lance, which is not only cheaper but also way better and has the oprion to build into something.
The stats are negligible for the cost and the double hit on a FIVE second cooldown, that isn't even a real doublehit and just gives you 490 AS for one attack, is fucking laufhable and does almost nothing
>in a whole five seconds i get one more attack
wew lad nice item
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Aussie players are literally peruvians that can speak english
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>>153641673
echo saber is a godsend for any hero with an on-hit affect
2.6k is not hard to farm because the individual components are cheap
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Anyone buying imbued treasure cove 2016
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>>153641769
>aussies
>speak english

kek
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>>153641496
>this this has been why there's been a mid arc on my team for my past 3 excruciating games
he does nothing
he gets his shit pushed in so hard in lane and achieves nothing until 40 minutes. he's so zero impact it hurts

i can't handle this shit at my mmr
why would they publish something like this and not for instance the correct way of playing medusa to finally get retards to stop rushing linkes/manta/skadi since it's not dota 1 anymore
im actually so fucking mad and ass devastated right now
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>>153641949

There are certain shit builds that will always persist through sheer force of memes.

Manta Medusa
Orchid Clinkz
Radiance Terrorblade

There will always be hard core disciples of these shit builds that will 100% stick to their guns based purely on feels.
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>>153641769
Hello, Australian player here. You're currently speaking to a noble amongst the nation of plebians.
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>>153641949
Obviously whoever wrote it wants all the shitters to start trying to play AW to tank his winrate and help him dodge nerfs.
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>>153642096

>aussie with greater than 50% winrate

This is a shoop.
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>>153641949
Sounds like you were just unlucky tbqh
The average Arc Warden in my games goes 10/0 at 15 min and finishes the game at 30 min. The hero is fucking broken and I hope Icetoad nerfs him to hell before he gets into CM
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>>153642153
It's not a shoop, it's worse. Much, much worse.
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Give a complete fucking noob (didn't even unlock mmrs or chat) a guide on what items I should put in my Omniknight build or what stats I should keep in mind when choosing them.
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>2016
>No Sheever hero

nice game doturds
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>>153642338
just play oracle
hes literally a goodOmniknight
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>>153642338
You're a strength hero that's almost always played as a support and needs mana.

Soul ring, mana boots, force staff, euls, mekansm and aether lens are all viable and all you pretty much need.

Stats are almost completely irrelevant if you're a support, you just want to know good positioning and to always have mana.
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>>153642412
Yeah but does the Oracle have burning hot hats?

Didn't think so.
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>>153642338

Omniknight is largely item independent. So any items you might build are based mostly on what the situation calls for. Guardian Greaves is a shit ton of gold but useful to deal with silences that might prevent you from ulting/repelling something. Vlads is a generic teamfight boost item. Blink and forcestaff for positioning since you dont want to be hit by AoE, yet still want to get in after it. Lotus Orb is really just a good idea if you don't know what else to get.

The problem Omni has is how unfucking-believably level hungry he is. And how hard it is to get those levels before your team loses the game.
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John Connor... it is time.
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hey why was barny kicked from blitz stack?
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>8 hours to reach 500 posts
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>please to tell me if these are shit
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>>153642710
>playing that many bot games
Senpai no...
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who /kasshoku shoujo/ here
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>>153639825
>not Crimson Witness
smdh
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>>153642738
all my friends sorta stopped playing and i don't really trsut randoms to actually play dota rather than pve for 40 minutes each to get fully farmed, bot games where kinda quick painless and i love to rat. enjoy your (you) <3
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How about we reintroduce ursa's old ultimate, that buff that gave you damage dependant on you HP but instead of a bursty agi hero that builds no hp we give it to a str hero this time.
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>>153642954
>teammates might not play real dota
>that's why I purposely don't play real dota in bit games
Really gets the neurons firing
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>>153642338
Get a blink or shadowblade ASAP

Bottle is core if you're into roaming, but soul ring is also good.
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Ummmm
doturds?
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>>153643186
I guess they need to make pudge hook stun teammates
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>Hood of Defiance + Headdress + Recipe = Pipe of Insight
>no +2 stats
uhm, dotards ?
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>>153643186
I'm guessing it's either a latency issue or that the blink and hook collision happened on the same server tick.

Then again, it could just be another bug with hook. It's had plenty over the years. Go to dota 1 and hook+toss an icarus diving pheonix if you want to see some real insanity.

>>153643289
He appeared to blink as the hook hit him, not during the movement.
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>>153641673
It's a godsend for heroes that have only one or two spells they want to cast, but that they NEED to cast to win fights. Especially strength heroes, but some agility heroes like Slark can sustain their health entirely on their own indefinitely, but run out of mana very quickly and are forced to either ferry mangoes or return to fountain, or just have a support running around mana booting them while they farm jungle.

It's really good on Bloodseeker because again, he has spells he NEEDS to cast, but he naturally doesn't build mana regen. It greatly speeds up his already fast as hell jungle farm, the mini maim is great while he's bloodraged and super hasted letting him trade hits and run circles around a target who would win in a manfight, but who can't deal with 2 hits to 1 trades while dealing with BS's nuke and ult.

It's an early game item that helps pad out the weaker part of a lot of hero's game. Where they need to start farming, but also want to fight, but who only have the mana to do one or the other.
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>>153643359
The hook hit before the blink happened
If the hook stunned on hit the blink couldn't have happened
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>>153642483
>>153642563
>>153643146
How do I save a build? I'm trying to make it in demo and it doesn't save when I exit the game
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Why aren't you picking OD, /d2g/?

Lotsa pure damage and the ult explodes entire teams.
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>>153642153
yea that sounds about right
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You can't meme donate anymore right?
bulldog should just definitely stream fulltime rather than joining a meme team.
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>>153643547
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2CYDWwTzU0
What is this, dotards?
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>>153643547
Do it in a lobby
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>>153643686
These people baffle me. I'm 100% sure they do it for attention and nothing else.
>Bulldog just said my name again
>fap fap fap fap fap
>look at all these twitch chatters that love me
>fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap
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>>153643686
wtf i hate streamers now

t. slave that is off to work who earns this amount in 1 month
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>>153643838
>9gag meme
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>ranked ap is mid pudge, mid pudge, feeder, leaver
>decide to play cm
>no games.exe
>play pub cm
>starts loading
>So how does this work guys?
>Seriously?
>Check his profile
>He's serious.jpeg
>300 average gpm
>99 last hits
>13 camps stacked

I just can't take this any more.
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whats the song playing on bulldogs stream
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>>153638837
So in a teamfight, he can die from somebody buying Radiance.
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>>153643884
>idiot
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Ok, dotards, help me out here.

There used to be websites where you could design your own hero selection layout and import it into dota 2. Most of those don't work anymore since the reborn update.

Are there any of those sites that still work or a guide how to do it yourself?
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Its an actual highly upboated thread
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>>153644087

thank you reddit spy
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>>153643551
>badSilencer
>good

the Int steal isn't as OP as before
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>>153644087
based r***** spies!

kill yourself
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>>153644087
Tbh I think there's some truth to what that guy writes.

Twitch chat in dota streams is just beyond retarded and I can understand it when streamers don't want to put up with it. Dota 2 has arguably the weakest streaming scene out of all major esports games. If you look at games like Hearthstone or LoL, there pretty much always one or even multiple super popular streamers up. That's not the case in dota.
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>>153644087
Why dont you just upvote it reddit fag.
And if you're not, are you seriously just browsing reddit to find something to post on 4chin?
If you are, you are absolutely no better than the r/4chan posters.
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>>153637554
If you just march in lane, you waste the hero. If you actually march in jungle, you gain GPM, can stack camps at the same time.
I still think 90% of the image is true, especially now that you can hold alt to see stack boxes.

But seriously:
Aghs > GG Boots > Eblade > Situational items > Dagon
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>>153643916
My gpm average is 400 and I have 1k hours.
Uh, probably a couple hundred are just idling. I don't do it on purpose I just forget I have Dota running after I alt tab to check something or change music.

It's cause I alternate between hard carry or position 5 support. Whenever I play carry I generally average 550gpm. Sometimes closer to 500 in a bad game and anywhere from 600-800 in a good game, but I almost never get my gpm higher than 700 unless I play Alch or Naga.
Is 550 pretty shit tier as an average to have? I'd say 600 is more the average for games I've won while 500 or less is generally my gpm for games I lose.
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>>153644087
>actually reading your twitch stream

why?

just ignore those retards
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>>153644301
you can tell how old this is by the fact that it suggest you use march on ancient creeps

also duh of course you use it to farm jungle, but you use it to push lanes too
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>>153644227
if someone are literally getting mentally ill or sad over random people on the internet they should just kill themselves
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>be AdmiralBulldog
>be obese
>have small penis
>have massive problems achieving and maintaining a proper erection

???
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Tinker is like this genius honeypot of a hero for theorycrafters. Literally everything about the hero is seductive and suggestive of power and yet nothing actually works to solve all of Tinker's problems at the same time. So the theorycrafting wars literally never ending because all the sides are pretty much shit.
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>>153643186
This pudge is fucking shit oh my god
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>>153644301
clan_iraq is that you?

Why don't you build dominator on tinker?
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>>153638636
The edge contrast between heroes isn't good enough.

Basically, at some point you need at the least have one:
1. Hero has unique particle effects
2. Hero has unique outline
3. Hero has unique color scheme
4. Unique Aura
And since heroes doens't have Auras in Dota 2, well fuck me. I miss the Vampiric/Devotion/Endurance/Unholy auras.
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>>153644326
The point there is that all his stats are shit. You can have shit gpm but if you stack a lot of camps it means you support. If you have shit last hits but high gpm you probably play aggressively. But to have all 3 shit means you're very new to the game.
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>>153644326
>Is 550 pretty shit tier as an average to have?

There's no way to tell because we don't know which carries you played.
550 GPM average is pretty bad for something like an Alch or Naga, but some carries can't flashfarm at all.
It's good enough if you win more than you lose.
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>>153644402
delet this
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>>153644227
Main difference is that Hearthstone has a lot of career streamers or washed up pros that need money. A lot of Dota's most popular streamers are pros, and as a result spend a lot of their time practicing or at tournaments. The result is long periods of nothing.
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>tresdin, luna and death prophet will never sit on your face and try to choke you with their crotch

how do I deal with this infinite sadness?
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>>153644402
>have massive problems achieving and maintaining a proper erection

I didn't realise he was dating sheever. That would happen to anyone.
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>>153644431
At the least get your memes right.
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SHE IS COMING AFTER DOTA

SOMEONE FUCKING STOP HER
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>>153644227
JUST CLOSE YOUR EYES NIGGA JUST WALK AWAY
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>>153644471
Most of my carries aren't flash farmers, no. Chaos Knight, Wraith King and Dragon Knight are my top 3 most played carries.
I struggle to break 600gpm with them even if I go something like 12/0/8 and megacreep the enemy team by minute 30. Although the changes to WK's crit does make jungle clear a lot faster now. Even in a bad game I can just hop in the jungle around level 4 honestly, 1-1-2 does a lot of damage to creeps with a quelling blade.

For Naga and Alch like I said my gpm is generally around 700. 800 is more the average for Alch I suppose.
I'm trying to learn Faceless but I'm legit bad about Chronos. Or it's just hard as fuck to not hit teammates in my bracket since they usually just balls deep into a bad fight no matter how much I ping them.
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>>153644695
literally who
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>Roshan is a female

is this true? or is reddit trying to trick me?
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have there been no new sheever webms?
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>>153644695
lmao

no dotard will care

the ones that do care will just insult her instead
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>the -mana regen on netherward is fucking irrelevant
>when decay expires undying loses a bunch of health and people who were decayed gain a bunch
Why?
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>guy is a weeaboo
>sucks at dota 2

anime makes you shit at dota
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>>153644981
Yeah kinda
Because if it permanently stole health that'd be gay bullshit. They'd need to remove the actual damage part of it if it didn't give the health back.

It's not a a harass spell, it's a "I'm going to kill you once I get 4 stacks" skill. Also very useful if you can hit multiple heroes mid fight. Hitting 3 or 4 heroes every 4 seconds gives Undying a lot of burst health mid fight and can make him hard to nuke down.

For 45 seconds each Decay deals 100/140/180/220 damage, 80 of it being effectively pure. It has a 4 second cooldown at level 4. At level 2 it's only 8, you can easily rack up what amounts to 420 damage at level 3 in 20 seconds while people are running around with 700 max health. At that point your lane carry just needs a nuke and for the first 6 minutes of the game anyone that stays in lane will be free kills for them. He's a strong harasser.
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So did anyone ever actually beat AL on true lan?
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>kaipi plays again today

thanks god based kaipi saving this pre-season
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>>153645256
I meant the relative health when the decay expires.
If undying is sitting at 500/1000 health when decay expires he drops to 420/920 health, effectively losing 80 health instead of dropping to 460/920 or even staying at 500/920.
Likewise if an enemy is at 500/920 health, when decay expires they shoot up to 580/1000.

It's really concerning when you are fighting in the early game and are at 100~ health then you suddenly lose 80 of it.
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>>153644904
knowing nu-valve
everything is possible
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>>153645431

It used to be as you described and Undying literally won lanes instantly from hitting a single decay with his AoE mek heal.

The truly baffling stat stealing "feature" right now is Slark's essence shift. When he dies, he loses all the stats he gained from hitting opponents. But those heroes DO NOT get them back until the debuff normally expires (240 seconds). This is literally the only ability in the game that functions like this.
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>>153645515
Arcane orb
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>>153645431
It's just how stats work. Anything that modifies stats is an instant change, it's why Timbersaw is so fucking bullshit to deal with as a melee strength hero.

Every Q even at rank 1 is a 15% max hp pure damage nuke if he hits a tree, or a 15% max hp magic damage nuke if he doesn't. So you just instantly lose your health, but if you survive, you get it back.

Again, permanently losing that health would be gay bullshit as the spell currently works. It's a very low cooldown semi pure damage aoe nuke almost impossible to actually miss. Early game it is fucking rape incarnate.
It used to be worse, until they changed it to give health back/remove health on expiration.
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>>153645515
le balanced epin fishman of THREE escape abilities strikes again
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>>153645552
>When the target loses the debuff, it first regains 12 mana per missing intelligence point, and then regains its intelligence
'no'
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Pudge triggers me so hard

There's literally nothing about him that fits in with the rest of the game
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>>153645515
it actually lasts only 120s when maxed
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>>153645704

The infuriating thing about Pudge is how he's been changed into this better version of many other heroes that literally never has to get a single CS to be relevant for the entire game.

The heroes where literally nothing about them fits with the rest of the game are Timbersaw and Techies.
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>>153645704
That's mostly because he's remained unchanged just with special snowflake buffs like him being able to hook units out of Euls, magical hook to pure hook, hook pierces spell immunity to deal damage, but yeah other than all his retarded fuckin buffs he's unchanged from the hook Pudge of DotA.
A lot of other heroes have been significantly changed to the point they're barely reminiscent of their old DotA selves, but not Pudge. Pudge is still just Pudge, only stronger and with more special snowflake rules.
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>>153645784
t. reddit
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>>153645784
>>153645786

He also looks very fucking out-of-place even for an anachronistic high fantasy setting like dota's.

You have dwarves, paladins, magic beings and shit, and then you have this fat mutant that is also ugly as fuck.
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What's the #1 most infuriating thing you can bind into all chat?
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>>153645923
I actually am fairly annoyed there is no Dwarf in Dota.
Someone should make a Dwarf hero, but then I'm not familiar with how Dota does Dwarves.
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>>153645927

>GOD TIER
?

>GREAT TIER
GG EZ

>GOOD TIER
Links to online guides for the hero player X is playing

>ALRIGHT TIER
Almost anything else

>OUTDATED TIER
any variation of "umad?"
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>>153645967
It's in his name - Dwarven Sniper
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>>153645694
>When he dies, he loses all the stats he gained from hitting opponents. But those heroes DO NOT get them back until the debuff normally expires (240 seconds). This is literally the only ability in the game that functions like this.
Arcane Orb
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What if pudge had another hook skill, both of them with cooldowns of ~20 seconds, one would hook a player to him and the other him to the player.
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>>153645997
>feed as bloodseeker
>"this bs wtf"
>"hey bs stop feeding"

"?"

oh it makes me smile just thinking about it
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>>153644431
Helm of the Dominator in the stash is an improved version of BoT2 for tinker
>>153644301
>memeback bait laser
heresy
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>>153646081
>good clockwerk
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>>153645923

>I never ever played warcraft 3, the post.

I hate kids.
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>>153645967
Lion is as tall as the creeps so I guess he counts as a dwarf
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tinker needs a nerf and then a stealth buff to make people stop playing him as a farm vacuum and play him as something different
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>>153646025
That's DotA. In Dota, Sniper is a keenfolk, which are essentially Gnomes. Intelligent, small, not physically adept, generally do not get down and dirty on their own merit, they use tools or inventions to get the job done.
Sniper with his rifle, Clockwerk with his battle armor and gadgets, Gyrocopter with his gyrocopter (a super Gnomish invention in all mythology with Gnomes in them), Alchemist uses alchemy and an Ogre goon to do his fighting. And Tinker uses his science n shiet to use laser beams and missiles. Timbersaw made a death mech to kill trees, but I don't know why he's considered a Keenfolk. I guess because he's pink? But he really looks like a goblin if you ask me.

There's no Dwarves in DotA.
Goblins and Dwarves mostly became Keenfolk in Dota, with the exception of Techies who stayed Goblins.
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>Rupture is essentially a 12 second root

Um, dotards?
How is this balanced?
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>>153646264

keenfolk is not a single race
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>>153646159
Lion is a stunted dark magician corrupted by demonic powers. He's half human half demon all witch.
To clarify a demon witch, not as in he's a demonic witch, but he's a witch that uses demonic powers. He was a demon witch before he became a demonic demon witch. And yes, witch is a unisex term for a specific kind of sorcery.
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>>153645431
I thought only Morphling Essence Shift healed for the full %? While the other stats spells just adjusted you HP% + modifiers?
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>>153646212
>tinker needs a nerf and then a stealth buff to make people stop playing him as a farm vacuum and play him as something different

There is literally no other way to play him. He barely functions with little farm and doesn't do much of anything without levels. Most of the items that could short circuit this problem have been expressly forbidden from being rearmed like Manta Style.
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Is 4chan fucked?
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>>153646460

yeah I'm getting "connecting to the spost coordinator" every time I try to post wtf
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>get hair washed at the hairdresser before cutting
>this girl has the softest hands ever
>get a boner
>tfw no gf
wew lads what cute hero do I pick to get off this feel?
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>>153646323
Keenfolk is a collection of small, diminutive colored races yes but Goblins are clearly separate from them since goblins are not considered keenfolk. Timbersaw is considered a "small keen." Otherwise, Sniper and Clockwerk are blood related and Tinker is the same race as both of them. Alchemist has a significantly different look than the other keen, but that could just be artistic liberty. He's not goblin-like as Timbersaw is, he's a lighter shade of pink than Sniper but still a similar color and build. I think he's a regular keen.

At any rate, with the exception of Timbersaw physically all the keenfolk greatly resemble Gnomes, and Timbersaw has a very Gnomish demeanor (they don't generally deal with stress well) even if he looks very different.
None of them display Dwarf like characteristics. Physically or personality wise.

Dwarves are most importantly physically, stocky. No keenfolk are stocky. If Dwarves are in the world of Dota, and they may very well not be, they are most certainly not keen.
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>>153646319
>Get level 1 ruptured
>Just walk away
Also
>Get level 1 ruptured
>Use your town portal scroll to escape
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>>153644725
Isn't that exactly what the streamers are doing and the result is that we don't get many good streams?
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>>153646547
>his hair is long enough to need a wash before cutting
Get a hair cut you hippie
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>>153646594
>using rupture on a hero by themselves

why not use it to gank?
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>>153646435
But manta style is rearmable. It's just utter fucking shit (muh cm tier illusions) and rendered 100% redundant by Lotus Orb.
>He barely functions with little farm
Wrong
>and doesn't do much of anything without levels
If you put points into BadIlluminate, sure.
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>Rupture now stuns if the target runs out of health like mana leak
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Is anyone else here unable to appreciate games like Witcher 3 , Fallout 4 or MGSV since you're addicted to Dota 2 ?

Other games dont even come close to Dota
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>>153646749
in dota 1 refreshing manta style (and other illusion creating spells) would create more illusions
in dota 2 refreshing manta style and other illusion spells delete the illusions before crating new ones
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>>153646807
Stop playing open world trash then
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>>153646749
>But manta style is rearmable

Manta Style years ago did not destroy previous illusions if it was rearmed and used again
>B-b-b-but that is OP
No, because PL shat out/shits out far more, far more effortlessly than Tinker could

>If you put points into BadIlluminate, sure.
You need like level 9 to be a threat like a level 6 lion, assuming you don't put any points in BadIlluminate. And this with almost ZERO CC of any kind.
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>>153646832
Oh no, my Crystal Maiden tier illusions!
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>>153646770

this would only affect people under Reincarnation aura
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>>153646435
>He barely functions with little farm
Trying to break into a base were Tinker only has Brown Boots + Bottle + Soul Ring, i can tell you, its extremely painful.
If he has aghs, its even worse.

If he just uses March, its whatever, since March do not really deal damage.
If he bothers to use Rocket + Laser correctly? Good fucking luck. Especially since Aghs and Ether Lens both exists now.
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>>153646860
An endless stream of illusions doing 40~ damage each is nothing to scoff at.
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>>153646862
I'm pretty sure you get purged when you are under the reincarnation aura.
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>>153646807
that's because modern games are trash, try playing System Shock 2, Fallout 1-2 or MGS1-3 instead of those turds
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>>153646860
>Oh no, my Crystal Maiden tier illusions!

It actually meant that right click builds were possible on Tinker. I mean Naga's and Terrorblade's are about as shit without farm. But it allowed you to siege buildings from relative safety which is one of the crucial reasons why Tinker is so fucking shit right now: because he does nothing to actually bring down buildings despite consuming mid lane farm (and more).

It also gives vision which is immensely helpful considering how much lack of vision hampers the effectiveness of the RANGE he gets from (Aghs) laser or missile.
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>>153644301
>If you just march in lane, you waste the hero.
2k mmr spotted
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>>153647056
Which is worse anon:
1. Teleport Boots to lane, and then marches all the creeps, without even trying to jungle or stack

2. Tinker goes 4 4 0 1 and can't even farm until level 13, or TP to teamfights
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>when you enfeeble windrunner

feels good man
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>>153647275
is that a new champ?
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>>153647340
no its an ew hero you league babby
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>m-muh farm muthafucka
You do not need more than a soul ring and TP rearming (FROM 135 TO 100 TO 75 TO 50) to contribute to with rocket spam
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reminder to keep your penis clean

most girls don't like to find it covered in smegma
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Reminder of the unknown future


>b-but muh honeypot lans matter
Only TI Matters. Just like Only Championships Matter in regular sports.

Only two teams have managed to place consistently well at TI
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>start up game
>que for game
>load into game
>picking screen
>lose all desire to play
>feed all game
>que for next game

anyone else
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>>153647950
>every fucking day
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Who /hyped/ for the warhammer chest? Can't wait to be Jewed massively for AMAZING sets like the Puck one.

Seriously though, I want the good Omni/Kunkaa ones.
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>>153648143

>kunkka gets another amazing set

CAN ANY OTHER HERO COMPETE? LITERALLY KING OF THE DRESS UP
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Purge triggers me so hard

There's literally nothing about him that fits in with the rest of the community
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>>153617783
>mfw i actually clicked those
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>>153648143
>no game of thrones chest
>no hodor set for alchemist
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>>153648143
What are the chances of me getting banned if I just download them illegally locally off some Russian key logger site?
Like I know other people won't be able to see shit but I hardly care about that.
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>>153647741
>cleaning your penis
Uhhh? Doctor goldberg said I should just cut the end off???
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>>153648220
Hes a good co-caster and would make a bretty good coach imho.
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>>153647831
>Placing well is dominating.

Anon you don't really e-sports do you?
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>>153648334
>jews mutilate men
>muslims mutilate women
>normal civilized white people don't mutilate their children

makes electrical signals jump from on brain cell to another
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>aghanim's gyrocopter now procs flak cannon onto one random nearby unit every attack
>stacks with regular flak cannon so one random unit gets hit twice
like/r9/subscribe
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gyros like th e most boring hard carry no stop
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>>153647831
>ti4 to ti6
lad
ti5 to ti5
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I will become the best /d2g/ player!!
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>>153648786
So you are going to install the game and play a couple bot games? not that hard when 99% of people in d2g don't play videogames at all and are here to let their autism run free
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Fix to spell effects being visible in the fog WHEN

Too easy game picking off retards farming jungle or roshing now
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so when did morph become OP again? i feel like i see him in every game now
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>>153649157
when the game stops running on an fps engine ie. never
its not like it matters to 99% of the playerbase which plays with camera locked onto their champ
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>skipped /fit/ for 2 months
>made some abs exercises yesterday
>now everything hurts
>somehow it makes me play Dota better

Dotards?
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>have about 32,000 dollaridoos in a manila envelope in a hidden pocket underneath my mattress
Who /doesn't trust the banks/ here?
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>tfw want to die every day
>tfw think about suicide when I have to get up
>tfw very easily distracted
>tfw distractions entertain me for the majority of the day
>tfw it's night by now and I might as well go to bed

Repeat.
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>>153646965
rupture persists through LITERALLY EVERYTHING, including death and buyback
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>>153649261
i see him in every game too, but he always loses
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>>153649427
how will you gain interest on that money making it inflation proof go- i mean anon?
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>>153645923
>guys i want waifus and boobs
>you hear that? casuality!!
back to lolg you refugee
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>>153649543
The only thing I would use a bank for is a safe deposit box in a preferably swiss owned one. The judas won't get me.
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Does Sheever still play with Bulldog?
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>>153649709
hahahahahahahaha
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>>153649157
>>153649274

This is a bug that actually influences a lot of tournament results.
Sometimes when a team knows the enemy team is doing rosh even though they haven't been missing for that long and they have no wards/have not used scan, you just know they saw the effects through the fog. I saw that happen a lot in TI6.

I wonder why valve didn't fix it yet? It's been in the game for a very long time and it seems simple to fix.
I think they're not doing anything about it for the same reason they also don't do anything about pros blatantly cheating at CS:GO tournaments.
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>>153649782
This, I saw sumail exploiting that bug to jump a shadow demon in fog as storm spirit
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>>153649630
>he thinks the jews dont own the swiss banks

lmao anon, the jews own EVERYTHING. you cannot escape the kikery
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If every female dota hero had to chose a husbando hero

who do you think would be chosen more times?
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Templar Assassin
Nyx Assassin
Phantom Assassin
Stealth Assassin

Dotards?
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who /almostthere/ familia?
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>>153649773
I've missed out on a lot it seems.
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>>153649924
chaos knight
rogue knight
holy knight
omniknight
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>>153649857
People actually complained about that one because it was so obvious, but the real problem is much worse.
Giving away the fact that you're doing rosh can easily make you lose the game, especially in today's meta where teamfights matter so much.
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>>153649989
are you implying 5k is good? because 5k is the new 3k
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>>153650041
lion
lina
luna
lone
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>>153650041
Storm Spirit
Earth Spirit
Ember Spirit
Spirit Breaker
Vengeful Spirit
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>>153650091
anything below 8k is dogshit
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Monkey King
Sand King
Wraith King

???
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>>153650194
its not that extreme but anything below 6k is legit just some shitter who managed to get lucky now days. you can thank mmr inflation for that
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>>153650091
>tfw 4k mmr when ranked was just added
>tfw instead of grinding i stopped playing ranked because i was constantly mad at my team
>tfw now it's ten times as bad and i'm still 4k
i could grind it out because they're easy games, but it's not very fun, and considering 5k is hardly any better, is it worth it in the end? i don't just get mad at my team when they're being retarded, i get mad at the enemy when they're retarded too.
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>>153649890
Mortred the Phantom Assassin would definitely pick Purist Thuderwrath the Omniknight
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Why
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>>153650292
Monkey King => MKB
Wraith King => BKB
Sand King => ?

>Also going for royalty names and not listing QoP
you failed
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Bane?
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>when your entire team picks cores
>so you support
>but it turns out
>none of them can even play cores
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>new edje guides
Dota is fun again
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>>153650314
autism
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>no all-hero taunt that makes a shinny question mark appear on top of your head

it's like valve hates money honestly
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Wind Ranger
Drow Ranger

Is Valve tying to tell us something here?
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>>153650442
>queen of pain
>priestess of the moon
>death prophet
dotards???
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>>153650563
>priestess of the moon
who?
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>>153650626
I think it was luna's title in dota1, he just wants to look like an epic oldfag
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>>153650091
As I go up, so is the quality of the matches. Can't remember last time someone dced or quit in a game.
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>>153650301
As long as you encourage your teammates with kind words and nice plays instead of tilting them you're okay because you WILL eventually get a high rating with that attitude.
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>>153650041
knightstalker
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>>153650690
It was mirana's in dota 1 but in dota 2 she is princess, not priestess

>>153650718
knightcrawler
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>>153650703
>encouraging the retard will make them play less like retards

haha

no
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>zai
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>>153650748
>actually baited a reply
it's getting easier and easier each year
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>>153650748
knightrider
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Watching the ESL rerun of frankfurt 2015. Man secret 2.0 are fun to watch, what's happened to my favourite team. ;-;
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>dota isn't fun
>battlefield 1 isn't balanced for shit and is wewuz tier
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>>153650806
knight king
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>underlord gets abyssal/radiance/shivas and pipe
>becomes unkillable while doing a billion damage
how do i deal with this
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>>153650556
>calls her by her race
>not even actually her race
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>>153650854
>Liking secret
You are the problem
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>>153650442
Akasha isn't a Queen tho?
> The Ecclesiast-King of Elze nursed a desire for pain — forbidden pain. In a less prominent political figure, such desires might be considered unwise, but in a monarch of his stature, to satisfy such thirsts would have threatened the virtue of the Divine Throne itself. Therefore he turned to his dungeon full of demonologists, promising freedom to whoever could summon a personal succubus of torment and bind it entirely to his service. The creature who arrived, Akasha by name, visited upon him such exquisite torments that he named her his Secret Queen, and he began to spend all his spare moments submitting to her clever torments—eventually abdicating all his responsibilities in his pursuit of the painful pleasures that only she could bring. Queen of Pain could bring him to the brink of death, but she was rune-bound to keep him alive. At last the King's neglect of state brought on an uprising. He was dragged from his chamber and hurled from the Tower of Invocations, and at the moment of death, Queen of Pain was let loose into the world, freed from servitude—freed to visit her sufferings on anyone she deigned to notice.
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@153650801
>(You)ing obvious counterbait
Don't take it personnel. I am the Australian who replaced a link in the OP with a shrek pastebin for 2 weeks before anyone noticed and had bait the entirety of reddit, joindota and le behind the scenes man with my shitty fake patch notes
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>meepo gets aghanim's, bots2, hex and 3 skadis
>becomes unkillable and deals a billion damage
how do i deal with this
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>>153650779
>adapting to your teammate's playstyle instead of tilting them and your entire team even if they're wrong gives you a better chance of winning
hmm
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loving these pinoy apes struggling to bang their neurons together. tping to a creep visible to the enemy as a naga when there is an enemy storm and morph missing on the map. 3 fucking times. gabbi is a legit moron.

hope these pinoy apes all die
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who's in zai's stream?
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>centaur gets 6 hearts
>becomes unkillable and deals a billion damage
how do i deal with this
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>>153651192
dont let him get 6 hearts
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>>153650918
I don't like them anymore, pretty much since w33 and misery got kicked they just aren't interesting to watch, even with EE. Puppan should just stick with a roster and try and actually build a team
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>>153651101
Sadboys â„¢
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Defend this dotards
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>>153651256
I don't think it's reasonable to expect /d2g/ to somehow defend your autism.
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>>153650957
>being this butthurt
have another (you)
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>medusa gets a rapier and 8 skadis
>becomes unkillable and deals a trillion damage
how do i deal with this
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>>153650014
sheever's heart is pixelated
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>>153651392
>9 items
>6 item slots

are you playing the dota 3 beta?
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>>153650932
She was bound to a King, she's a Queen.
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>>153651514
>he didn't read the leaked patch notes
lmao

they're adding an item
"Holster of Seratine" 9500g adds an additional item slot to your hero, accompanying a major hud rework allowing for better custom maps akin to those in wc3, since you can now actually have more than six fucking icons at a time, also, the new buildings are pretty neat too
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>>153651710
>The new solar flare tower
It's pretty neat how they are finally doing something more with the day night cycle. It really changes the dynamic, especially with the new siege creep abilities.
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does zai have more mmr than envy?
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Ok /d2g/ I am kill good night I love you sleep tight
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>>153651951
>sunspot as storm
>get ganked
>die
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>Pros whining about streaming being so toxic and problematic

Fucking retards. Get a sub button and a donate link, IGNORE the fucking chat, play whatever music you like, play on a delay. Just set it up so that retards can give you money if they want and keep playing like the stream doesn't exist.

>Twitch chat hurts my feefees
>Someone made a reddit thread about my shit music
>I'm le shy

Fucking throwing away free money. They don't even have to be a big meme streamer like Bulldog or Singsing. People are starving for some regular schedule, high mmr streams.
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>King
>labeled as support
YOU CANT AND I REPEAT YOU CANT MAKE THAT SHIT UP
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OUR GIRL IS CASTING


thank you based tobi
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>>153652331
>gyro nyx and alch
>not listed as supports
>sven too
valve why list wraith king as support if you're not gonna go the full length?
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ill suck you and your extended family's dicks for the invo arcana

not even kidding i've done worse things for less before
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>>153652375
>our girl
>reddit made a thread about liking her
not anymore
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>>153652481
plot twist: that "anon" is reddit
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>>153652375
>our
>girl
pick one
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>>153652375
>see something /d2g/ likes
>make a thread about it on reddit
>now they hate it

classic
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>>153652604
>getting your opinions dictated by another website
is this the ultimate form of cuckoldry
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>>153652604
>they
>d2g
>thread
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Is there a way to prevent others from touching my items in the courrier? also is it possible to have a private courrier?
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>>153652741
they already ""fixed"" this because of reddit
you can no longer take other's items off the courier
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>>153652741
yes, play with bots

faggot
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>>153652812

Is it possible to have a private courrier at all? one that takes only my items and answers only to me?
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B T F O
T
F
O
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Do the matches that hand out items to random spectators whenever something noteworthy happens require a paid ticket to be spectated or can I just run them in my background in hopes of getting some sweet hats at no cost?
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>be 2k shitter
>pick lone druid
>win
>check stats
>80% winrate on LD
WHY IS IT SO EASY LADS
HOW DOES HE DO IT
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~ BibleThump ~ LEPO LEPO ~ BibleThump ~
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>>153651101
Right here senpai
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>>153651223
>Even with ee
>even
This implies ee is interesting to watch
You have shit taste dont you squidward
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>>153653353
>implying EE isn't one of the most 'interesting' players to watch
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>>153652375
How hard is it to understand. OUR GUY or OUR GIRL is a person who visits /d2g/ and has been proven to be so
See examples:
>Man, did you see that Zephyr video with Blitz browsing /d2g/ on the background, what a madman, he's OUR GUY for sure
>ODpixel might be OUR GUY, he was talking how "/d2g/ is the place we don't talk about" so he might know whats up
>I was watching Barnyyy stream, and he had like 3 /vg/ tabs open on his ingame chat, and every single noname was on his friendlist, he is indeed OUR GUY
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>>153653220
lone druid rename when?
whenever someone mentions LD I think about our goy , why not just call him Syllabear?
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>>153652895
Yeah. Make some support cuck from ingame chat duo que with you
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>>153651101
>not watching based synderen
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what's your ping etiquette like faggots?

example:
>ping a lot on one spot = look here fucking retard/kill this ward stupid motherfucker
>ping x once on enemy = stay the fuck away from this faggot you dumbfuck
>ping x a lot on someone = stop standing there fucking idiot you're gonna die/kill this retarded free kill already you inbred
>ping x a few times on position = something important is right there hurry up you slow fuck
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>>153628682
You can go fuck yourself on kotl. Yeah, reall selfish of me that I can illuminate my stack or empty lane so I can get meck and wards to save and support your ass that was getting solo farm and solo exp. And how is rubic here, he usually roams and set ganks with lift.
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>>153653509
>our goy
but anon
you are the goy
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>>153653548
I don't need to spam a lot because I'm not an autist who can't use mic
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>>153653554
stop taking all the farm on the map, stop pushing the wave, stop ignoring mana leak, stop placing your wards in retarded places, stop pretending like sentries don't exist, stop making garbage items like mek on kotl instead of cheaper shit that will be used before you die
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>it's a there are people in d2g who have never had sex episode
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>Can't chat until after having finished 20 games
>Can't chat with anybody on my side
>Meanwhile enemy team is coordinated in a way that would be impossible without some third party chatting system

I get trying to fight bingbong advertiser robots but holy shit
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>question swedish immigration policy in zai chat
>get permabanned

huh? i though he was (((((our)))) guy?
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>>153653672

someone shop zais face into this
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Why did Tobi Dawson move himself and his whole business to a foreign country?
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Which hero needs a complete rework?
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>>153653775
it doesn't make any fucking sense, why wouldn't they let newbies chat with each other
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>DJ left Fnatic for this
talk about career suicide
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>>153653787
He is. He is /vg/ not /pol/, so he doesn't give a shit about politics
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>>153653884
omniknight
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>>153653884
techies
rework him back to how he was
easy peasy
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>>153653672
>It's a "Normies infest /d2g/" episode
>>153653884
Pitlord
>>
Drumpf will lose.
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>>153653982
Things that are officially not /d2g/
>Techies
>Fun
>High MMR
>Pudge
>>153653884
Make Techies an actual dota hero that doesn't make the dota game into a techies game. Just make him some teamfight bombthrower dude
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I live in constant fear that I will have to play invoker some day
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>>153654129

You say that as if I don't know
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>>153653548
>x ping enemy to tell retard to stay away
>he walks right there thinking you want to initiate
>yfw
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>>153653554
>Meck
You already shown that you don't know shit about playing kotl.
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>>153653548
>ping an enemy i see on the map twice
>ping abilities/items twice
>X ping once if i dont want the team to go there
>ping towers 3-4 times if i want the team to defend or push

anything above that is unnecessary and honestly the tower one if probably excessive
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>>153653548
if someone on my team dies i tp to fountain and ping them continuously for a minute

i'd flame them but i'm mostly muted for some reason
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>>153653548
I ping towers or draw arrows on map sometimes. As for pinging, the only rule is
>someone pings me more than once
>achieve MENTAL ORGASM and ruin his game
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>>153654129
just like brexit didnt happen?
or io won the arcana?
or ash won the kalos league?

>"m-muh polls muthafucka"

only libtard attention whores ever respond to them
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>>153653548
Fairly bad. I ping a lot, but hardly ever rage ping. I normally give 2-3 if I see a dangerous ganker on the map or something.
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>The two qts above are cheap as fuck while the abomination below is over 300 hundred fucking euros
>>
>>153654129
TRUMP
WILL
NEVER
LOSE
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>>153655097
>i'm a fucking idiot
>>
>>153655215
Who are you quoting?
>>
>>153655097
Juno is a Korea exclusive courier tho
>>
>>153655097
>literally loli meido

everybody-tachii wants to be goshujin-sama
>>
>>153655259
I pity the Koreans then
>>
>3k mmr
>1500 hours
>1500 games
>still get games with 4 people with 100 hours

dotards?
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>>153655097
why isn't that loli a hero yet?
>>
bad players shouldn't play mid or carry roles...
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DOE CUNT edition

>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: http://www.dota2.com/darkrift
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Cosmetic simulator: http://d2armory.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page
Want to upgrade to the superior DotA clone?: http://www.dotabuff.com/learn/lol

>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://yasp.co
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/

>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
http://www.gosugamers.net/
http://www.liquiddota.com/
livestreamer GUI: https://github.com/bastimeyer/livestreamer-twitch-gui

Previous thread: >>153575946 (Cross-thread)
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>>153655635
>>153655635
>>153655635

NEW THREAD
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>>153655609
>>153655656

wtf why did you make two threads
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>>153655609
So this is the power of doturds...
>>
>>153638328

>weird chink guy who looks like he smells like dog
>cute white guy with stubble and big dick

did she just do it for attention?
>>
>>153655656
so fucking early
>>
>>153637049

I am 3k mid and I never ask for pulled tangoes because:

You better off with just a normal set of tangoes that doesn't have cd so you can be aggressive and it's better to have more than needs regen then less then needed.

Pulling tangoes from often a single supp in 3k can be a death sentence to your safe lane that in case of failing will cry out for ganks.
>>
>>153648458

at least put

>christian negros in africa mutilate little girls

for the sake of diversity
>>
ardchive
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>>153655912
retard
>>
archive
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help me fucking get to 750
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>>153656539
k
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boy im missing out on the otehr fucking thread it better be good this shit better be worth it
>>
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHhhhhhhhhh
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>>153653220
any hero who can push fast is free mmr up until 5k
>>
>it's a faggot with an anime avatar loses the game for you episode

all you anime wathcing subhumans should just kill urselves
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>>153653554
if you play illuminate kotl that image is already right and you're also a retard
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I won twice in a row

This calls for a celebration
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>>153642402
how would it be? an amazon like hero or what do you have in mind?
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