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kToS Patch notes are translated: http://pastebin.com/fu4Tx4S5

https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=610 - Rank 8 Update Preview
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=616 - Transcendence System
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=628 - Latest Patch notes
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=624 - While You Were Away: Updates You Might Have Missed

Previously on /tosg/: >>153325708


>Can I play the game now?
YES YOU CAN (Get it on steam)! Rank 8 Late September™

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd

This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>Frequently Asked Questions:
http://pastebin.com/z0nHSEjH

>Add-ons:
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
http://pastebin.com/PrCkZ21n

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vaivora (바이보라)
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
Clover (Karga)
Database (Cattly)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
FOE (Jinsae)
Ohayou (Beethoven)
cute (Merigolds)
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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I HAVE 3 LV 240 TOONS AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PUSH MYSELF TO 280
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am i memeing correcting?
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Do Crimson autists ever stop whining about gvg even though they already no life to number 1? Such fucking tryhards
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>>153395341
>TOONS

kys
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>>153395348

absolutely not

dex pre r8 is a shitty meme, specially for archers

desu, not even at r8, maybe 3:1
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>>153395432
>be Ohayou
>tfw get bullied for being literal whos by Crimson
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>>153395348
yes
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I really like Highlander3, even tho it's trash now.

How should I build one class wise and stat wise?
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Best R8 AoE Wizard build.

https://tos-kr.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111bbb22.17213f41516a7585.1e3f4158617185.1a2a5575

YOU CAN'T POINT FLAWS ON THIS.
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>>153395818
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Something I never understood, if everything is basically just a 1:1 in this why is elemental attack valued higher than m.att/p.att? Like both would apply to each hit so wouldn't they all just add 1 damage regardless?
In fact wouldn't m.att/p.att be better since % damage attributes apply to those but I assume they don't to elemental?
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>>153395782

>trash they're not.

Some con, 3:1 str/dex or 4:1 str/dex, this is up to discussion, as well as doppel c3 skills and the possibility to reset to enjoy the attributes without crippling the build.

https://tos-kr.neet.tv/skill-planner#112226999.23334554.1125354551657a8195.114495b5
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>>153395932

people favor elemental damage more because it works for every toon and also for cafrisun + sacraments autoatk early on

physical attack is just better because the rolls are higher and they can crit (40 -> 60) while 35 poison dmg is always 30 poison damage). Also, elemental damage gets amplified by attributes, don't fool yourself.
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>>153395932
Because unlike physical attack, elemental attack receives bonuses based on the enemy's property. Holy elemental damage most often being the case, so that 24 holy damage is the same as 48 physical to something weak to holy.
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>>153396162
>unlike physical attack
Physical attacks get bonuses based on the enemy's armor.
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>they still haven't fixed Fireball: Burn attribute
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Lolipan is a literal thieving whore. Where is our TP?
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>>153396762
But Lolipan was sending TP out to members during the meetup last night, flaseflag-kun.
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I just noticed I could do that Uphill Defense people talk about. Where do I give it a try? Is it as annoying as people say?
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>>153396762
He knows that once he gives it out, all of you will leave.
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Any old cbt/early release people come back to the game? or did they ever leave?
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>>153397050
Anon look right the fuck above your post
>>153396897
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>>153396762
>>153396902
?
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>>153397050
everyone quit when they realized this game is going nowhere
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>Level 11 cards from quests
>Level 9 from dailies

This is where I should stop doing this, isn't it? This is an IMC forgot to add big numbers again thing, right?

>>153397050
I'm kind of here, as much as I hate it. I come back every now and then because of all the neat promises the class system makes and then I cry myself to sleep until I quit again.
One really good patch, that's honestly all it would take to fix this game. One fucking amazing patch. One of those overhaul patches that usually ruin games.

Fuck
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>>153396897
It's at Saalus or however you spell it on the map above pilgrim path, talk to NPC on the right to do it but you need a party. Seems to be common for pickup groups at 240-256 range, kinda difficult but just making it fairly far is rewarding.
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Is the Japanese translation on JToS better than IToS's translation? Are there any new/different voices to download and replace the old Japanese voice set with?

>>153396678
What's wrong with it?
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/Bullies/ when?
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>>153395782
i like highlander c3 just for that sweet costume

>>153397050
saw that dragoon guy posting a couple of days ago

>>153397270
DELTE THIS
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>>153397665
So I should wait a couple more levels? It's getting hard to squeeze cards out of zones, I was hoping for another daily source of experience to get me to the next reset.
>just making it fairly far is rewarding

So there's tiered rewards? What kind of stuff? It's just a "Defend the thing from waves of monsters" type thing right?
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>>153397756
>What's wrong with it?
It's supposed to increase the coodlown of Fireball by 8 seconds, but it doesn't.
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>153397940

Oh, so they buffed it then.
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>>153395971
Thanks, I was looking for this. Those 7 points in Highlander are free I suppose? I think I will dump them on CrossCut.
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TFW subaru turns down a free catacombs spear from 3j because
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>>153397270
>when lolipan literally fucking hates you
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What skills do you take for a swordsman 3 pvp build? You probably max restrain and pain barrier, but what do you do with the rest?
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>>153398407
3 bash rest concentrate and leftover points into gungho i guess
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>>153398386
thats because you're not part of the inner circle
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>>153398532
>tfw too old for the inner circle
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>>153398607
aren't you, daimyo. and trappe the only ones left of the FP inner circle?
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>>153398607
um what costume is that?

and not even everybody in futurefucked got 100 TP? we all got 200 tp from beetho-sama (even new memebers and non-gvg-participants)
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>>153397584
Fills up your kill requirements for extra xp cards. Half of the time you just get to turn it in instantly because it's asking for trash mats you already got from questing or doing daily kill counts. Adds up to a good 15-20% of a level per day in like 30-40 minutes.
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>>153398848
I honestly don't really know. I only get a few hours a night to play so I don't think I was ever really part of any inner clique. Unless you count Cats, Daimyo and I as one.

>>153398939
I was joking, if LP would have offered me TP I probably would have said no. I still have more than 900 from the early access boxes and a lot of people in the guild still don't have eyes and hairstyles and stuff.
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>>153399103
>tfw I wasted almost all of my TP on enchants
I should have just paid a hooker or something
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>>153399092
>Adds up to a good 15-20% of a level per day in like 30-40 minutes.
That's garbage considering that there are way better grinding spots at that level.
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It took forever

>>153399092
I actually have the kill requirements for most of the monsters I've encountered. I only skip maybe 20% of them because they're asking for 400 kill or something. I guess the trash mats are okay, I'm just paranoid I'll turn something in that's valuable without knowing.
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>>153399251
i know i spent a ton of TP on enchants too, and didn't even sell any of the good ones.
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>>153399442
No argument there. But for people like me who don't like to mindlessly grind the same mobs hours on end, it's a nice alternative.


>not putting at least 1 point in Lethargy for the Strike dmg attribute

Apparently people do this. I'm flabbergasted.
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>>153401113
Ana confirmed old tranny.
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>>153401113
WINKYFACE
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>>153401113
I did not, but that sounds alright!
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>Couldn't do early morning tbl because maint
>Probably wouldn't have anyway, cuz sleep is a thing that I do
>Couldn't do noon because IMC decided that's a thing that should stop
>Can't do 7pm one because steam is fucked

I didn't want my panda points, anyway...
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>All the classes that I liked got powercreeped and are useless now

Should I reroll or just end the suffering by quitting?
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Can anyone in CNL tell me which ones of them are for sale?

Like, how much for an hour? Do they need to be returned and if so, in good condition? Or is it a one time purchase kind of thing?
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/abusing-summons-in-tbl/324536/3

>Patsch needs to throw a hissyfit and accuses someone of using zoomy in TBL despite screenies showing them... not... doing... that...
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>>153402241
Patsch is cool and all but he's being pretty retarded there tbqh familia
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>>153396129
>Toon
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>>153402221
People will tell you Lalaco is for sale.
But she is not. Shes public property. Basically a free Cow to use for anyone at anytime.
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>>153401662
moving the times around was stupid, they weren't great before but the new times are worse.
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>>153402221
>>153402658
Autism
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>>153402103
What do you have right now?
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Uhmm, why is no one posting cute clerics(male)?
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>>153403576
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Lads, is Chaplain still good(if it ever was)? I want to make one but don't wanna waste my time leveling something I'll regret.
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>>153403561
HopCorsair
WuguCannon
Sorc3
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>>153403823
They're surprisingly strong in TBL. But not so great besides that.
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>>153403996
Even if I take Cleric C2 to use him as a healer?
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>>153404129
I mean, nobody's going to complain about having a C2 Priest3 in their party, but the Chaplain aspect of it doesn't offer too much. They're definitely not unplayable just really unremarkable.
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>>153404217
Having Capella doesn't make a difference then? So if I were Cleric 2 Priest 3 no one would notice except for the outfit?
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>>153403921
Hop Corsair is actually a pvp build where you hook then use hop skills, although it's inferior to cata, if you're only rank 5 you can do dopple into dragoon 2 for the almost meta PVE build, otherwise you have to ask someone else for PVP

>str loving class paired with a dex loving class
I have no clue.

Sorc 3 is honestly still better than the other two builds
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>>153404129
>"healer" in TBL

That role doesn't exist.
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>>153404717
Well, the anon that has been kindly answering my questions mentioned TBL, I didn't, also I didn't specify for what purpose I wanted to know about Chap.
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>>153403823
Going Chaplain means missing out on going Cleric2 or Oracle or Kabbalist/PD and therefore suboptimal.
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>>153404696
all the early archer classes love str though, wugu is just a bit more extreme.
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>>153404717
um, it definitely does.
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>>153405298
Is something wrong with going Cleric 2 at rank 6?
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>>153405647
Yes, Cleric2 is a requirement for every Cleric and taking at C6 because you had to take Chaplain means you didn't take Oracle.
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Hey guys I am planning on going chrono3 and am pyro1 currently. What should I go next? I was thinking at least one circle of linker but don't know what else to grab.
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?
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>>153406692
pyro2 or linker2 is a bit of a toss up, pyro2 gives more damage, linker2 gives slightly more support and can go linker3 at r8
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>>153406768
there's nothing wrong with this barrel
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>>153407147
No classes worth grabbing other than those?
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>>153406692
Reroll and go Cryo1 instead if you want to be a chronolinker.

By going Pyro you get some shitty damaging spells that will fail to kill even rank 4 mobs instead of CC and the amazing Cryo passive, which is 125% of your shield defense is translated to Magical defense, allowing you to be the best class at tanking magic.
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how do i discord?
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>>153407810
Write this
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>>153407424
Would going cryo3chrono3 be better than cryo1link2chono3?
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>>153408073
Tree is bretty gud
T. not a cryo
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>>153408073
They both have their strength and weakness.

Mostly Cryo3 is better when the number of mobs you have to kills is more than 8.

At R8 however you'll be able to go Linker3 on Cryo1Linker2, giving you 100% uptime on Lifeline, which will be really strong.
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Today I lost a evasion fight to a fucking cataphract. I never lost to a cataphract before. I was using a common bandit gloves, I hope that +50 accuracy really helps.
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>do Saalus with a random group
>guy says he'll defend the statue while we hunt the boss
>leech vanishes and mission fails as soon as we find it
>turns out this fucking guy just put down some owl carvings and went AFK while the monsters ate the statue
How do I

Why
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>>153406240
Am I missing something about Oracle? How does it synergize with everything else?
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>>153395630
It's like Crimson isn't even aware that the reason GvG is dead is because of them.

>>153408974
That's highly unusual. With 250 DEX, I can evade/block 70~80% of a rush's attacks. Catas hardly ever get DEX.

What was his name?
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>>153402241
I was just bored at work bro when I saw LP crying about summon "abuse" in arena

Don't take it to serious buddy
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>>153409874
Not everyone turns into a complete sperg from being "bored," pal.
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>>153410321
He's not your pal, friend
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>>153410321
Was like 7 in the morning gimme a break you nerd
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Hahaha Patsch. What a fucking retard.
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>>153409281
It's just a really good support class with counterspell & prophecy.
Heck, Forecast's attribute + the fact that it's a second-row buff also makes it non-shit.
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Has the ToS playerbase gotten so small that everyone just knows each other now?
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>>153409874
But he's right and patsch is being a faggy exploiter as usual.

Also summons need to get level reduction in pvp my god is it stupid.
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>>153402241
>still butthurt over not being allowed in FP
hehehehe
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>>153410656
So in that case, can I still be an effective healer with just 5 heal tiles and Mass Heal?
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>>153409874
>Pretending to have a job
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Where do Necros afk farm now? I might as well get to it.
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>>153410785
You can do ok but cleric 2 is better, anyone saying otherwise is a dumb member.
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Stop bullying Patsch, or else
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>>153410853
DOTA2
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>>153410998
Or else what?
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>>153410853
TBL
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>>153410948
So basically I can be a healer or a Chaplain. I thought I could do both at least without gimping myself.
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>It's a everyone is anonymously mad at me because I'm just relaxing and having fun in a dead korean cashgrab simulator while they never say jack shit to me ingame

lol you guys are fucking trash as usual, keep the hate coming though those posts make my leveling experience even more fun
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>>153409639
>Catas hardly ever get DEX.
Are we playing the same game?
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>>153411098
Or else I'll kill you!!
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>>153411328
You're already dead kid
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>>153410998
>>153411098
>>153411328
>>153411456
Ohayou arguing with themselves
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>>153411537
Remember that time when it was Moonie shitting up the whole thread?
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>>153410998
Nobody likes you.
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>>153409639

Thor something, I don't remember. The thing about catas is... the pet bonus has no cap! They can whale 200 evasion from the pet if they have enough money, and a lot of catas play high dex too... I hook'd him and I missed 6 hits from my prep'd-sept etoiles and half of a cartar stroke using my old gloves, I hope that this will be enough to land moreh its on him, with those new shade set gear, accuracy proved to be a problem in recent fights. And I'm a 290 dex fencer.
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>>153408974
i've been having a lot of trouble evading some players who i'm fairly sure are high str since hook64 came out. i think they're just stacking gloves.
700 evasion in arena should at least allow a few dodges.
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>>153395112
asdasdasd
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>>153411248
>It's a everyone is anonymously mad at me because <Insert nonsense here>

He actually believes this.
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>>153411681
They only get 10% of the evasion of the pet. They're much better off shoving into health.
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>Lay down heal tiles for near-dead teammate
>They run the fuck away from them as if I turned the floor into lava
>Dies 10 seconds later
>Openly bitches at the end about how I'm such a shitty cleric who can't heal the team
>We won (no thanks to his dead ass)

What.
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>>153411537
Its all moonie
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Anyone know where I can get a weapon made of Ohayou bones?
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>>153411537
>>153412146

Remember to block, ignore, and report all avatarfags.
No exceptions.
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>>153412213
But we love you Murbish!
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Aw hell naw
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>>153412213
I got a bone right here for you :^)
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Futureproof is recruiting new members. We're a /tosg/ exclusive guild with a focus on PvP and GvG. Our only requirements are being a regular poster/lurker of /tosg/ and having PvP goals.

Whisper Lolipan in-game if you'd like an invite, or have any questions.
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>>153412332
>magic defence +1
Worth it.
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>>153412442
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>>153412213
Murbish pleases old cleric men for TP
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>>153412332
>permanent magic defense for all your characters
>or some canon you'll replace when r8 comes along
hmm...
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>>153412213
Join us!
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>>153411456
>>153411328
>>153411098
>>153410998
Stop abusing Moko reaction images!
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Do you still remember love /tosg/?
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>>153412538
>loli is almost full dex
oh yeah... does this mean loli was right all along once again?
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>>153412332

>sell the recipe
>complete 4 magic defense collections from early maps
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>>153412985
Every day that passes I get more and more annoyed of how bad my special one plays and I started wondering why I still play with her.

Love is dying.
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>>153412964
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>>153412332
>Should we make this powerful epic orange cannon come from a difficult boss or something?
>No, make it a DPK item from these sparsely populated, slow spawning rabbits in some fuckoff map.
Fucking hell Kim at least make the grinds for these items FUN
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>>153413532
It's better to have it be a rare drop. If you want a Shark cutter you're shit out of luck because nobody wants to fight Mirtis and same goes for the other end game boss drop items.
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Are there 270 white weapons in the rank8 patch?

Wondering if I should transcend my maga bow on my Fletcher or not.
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>>153413532
>an item that can drop from an instance at a very low %
>said instance is doable only few times each day
I'd rather kill thousands of mobs.

>>153414047
>Are there 270 white weapons in the rank8 patch?
No, the only new weapons are Lolopanther 2.0 and those 3 purple ones like Marvel Grand Cross.
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Futurecucks just got cucked by Alpha
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While we are at it, why not a huge list with 4 rares
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>>153413289
fuck off luu
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>>153414363
>Magic Amp +2

>Cattly still completes it anyway
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Threatening ohayous brings good luck!

>>153412642
SLANDER
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What are some cheap ass ghetto cards i can put on my Fletcher3 for bossing? Glass mole is too in demand right now.
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>try to buy a card
>rng mini-game steals 5 cards from me

How many cards I must feed to my ts to push it to lv 10?
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>240 dungeon
>IMC Party matching
>Was still more useful the two swords on the run before
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>>153397050
No, even I quit
I hope to see you all in the next meme fotm mmo though.
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>>153415924
>tfw been playing MMOs for 12 years and have never seen or heard of any of you before
We will likely never meet again
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>>153411328
>>153411456
>>153413289
>>153412964
>>153411456


Where I can find more of these?
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>>153416000
I dunno what shit games you were playing but I know a large amount of people who play/played ToS from various other MMOs
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>>153416108
Did you play said MMOs with /vg/?
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>>153415680
what
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>>153416167
Of course.
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>>153416038
It was linked before, and linked on a /jp/ thread before in a zipped file that said "pls don't abuse"

So, to prevent futher abuse I'm not giving the link anymore.
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>>153416038
Kill yourself.
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>>153416273
It got linked on /a/ too, at least once.
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>>153416249
Then of course you recognize many of us
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>>153413837
>>153414187
Jeeze you nerds I said "a difficult boss or something" and you assume I mean another instagibbed loot pinata.
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Reminder that a reminder not to fall for the Fedimian meme literally made it into one of the quote OPs and you still fell for it.
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>>153416434
Well I was clearly talking about /vg/, and I thought you were too given your wording.
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>>153416273
I'll look archives, thanks anyway.
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>>153416449
Well, either a boss cube or a very rare recipe are the only drop mechanics we have now.
I'm sure most people here would love new ones of course.
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>>153416226
>IMC
>Proper programming
Somehow they were pulled in by the party queue.
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>>153416492
B-But Senaposter told me we were all gonna go!!
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>be dvine
>make Necro2
>farm for literal months
>spend 74m to get 100% attribute on Flesh Cannon
>sperg out, make enemies of everyone, embarass yourself, shit up the thread
>keep telling people that they're wasting their time, not making enough effort, that he's futureproof and nothing will ever stop him because he's rich
>accumulated hundreds of millions of silver
>Rank8 info hits
>Even 100% attributed Flash Cannon is now subpars
>Every swordie build now hurts more
>Necro3 is absolute garbage
>silently quit
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>>153416273
>linking a collection of reaction images on 4chan and unironically asking people not to abuse them

he knew what he was doing.
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>>153417014
You forgot
>get reported
>tell everyone the GMs won't do anything
>get banned
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>>153417014
Fuck off dvine, no cares about you anymore - no one ever did.
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So now you can pay 5 tp (literally nothing) to remove cards without downgrading the level? Anyone tried this already?
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>The other party rejected -
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>>153417257
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>>153417014
the game is dead. no reason to keep playing. rank 8 is just lipstick on a pig. every month it loses 30% of the players.

>>153417257
>>153417250
t. same 3-4 subhuman futurecucks

still living in my shadow even when i don't post or play i see. i'm glad to see you're living such a sad and shit life. remember you'll have more money than me.
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>>153418058
>embarrassing rant
what did he meme by this
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>>153418058
>dvine the excuselord
keep on keeping on my cuck
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>>153418058
fuck off
u
c
k

o
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>>153417014
Necro3 will be the best. IMC will change how skeleton scaling works and re-introduce the corpse golem version of shoggoth! They'll also make corpses cost less and add a Lich secret class for rank 9 that makes my build not shitgarbage.

Then there will be no content to use those numbers on anyway and we'll all quit.
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>>153418448
>>153418410
>>153418317
bye retards
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>>153418508
>didn't even hit 280
LMAO
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Reminder not matter how many billions of silver you've made you will still be shat on by clerics, and clerics don't even need gear to shit on you so even if you roll one you'll still be as good as any other.

Welcome to tree of clerics.
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>>153418508
Holy shit tennesse farmed up that much
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>>153418508
What is all that money worth if you only farm more anyway?
Maybe you'll have more fun playing cookie clicker instead, it's basically the same thing you were doing with ToS.
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>>153418761
t. mad useless corsairfag
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>FutureProof is hosting low-level 150 and below Arena event again tonight!

>1:00 server time tonight
>Kateen Forest Channel 1
>Levels are 150 and below (Others who bring higher levels usually find partners to pvp with anyway or duel the 150s if they want)
>Arena format! 1v1 or 2v2
>Prizes are given based on a gambling system. Best 2/3, the loser gives one talt to the winner.
>Cats will always duel, and will always provide talt even if you aren't interested in risking your own!

PvP with prizes in KateenForest Ch1 at 1:00 tonight! Come for fun, or to spectate, or participate and win talt!

>Questions? PM Cats in game!
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>>153418508
>banned
>still madposting
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>>153418883
>rated M for dvine
This is a lie.
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>>153410667
It's like a small town, so yes. Everyone knows each other and who is a clique
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>One shot again

Fuck >level220 zones. Fuck them.
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>>153418508
>Watched a number silently go up for months
>Quit

I was expecting you to have RMT'd the money away.
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>>153418508
>i showed this to my mom, she was proud
pathetic
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>>153418761
>tree of clerics
>the top ranking player is a linker and a catac3
what did he mean by this
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>>153418761
reminder that enough people are cheating that it's still 50/50 if you end up with an 80k hp level 5 wizard on your team
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>>153419120
It's really weird. I literally never namefag, and people I don't even know start start talking to me like I'm a big deal. (I'm not any major ranker in TBL, either. Not that it would matter.)
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>>153418883
you never paid me when i whooped your sorry ass cants. i guess what's what i can expect from the futurecuck clique. you guys can't even afford to pay out a single talt when you lose. no wonder you poor retards are so jealous kek
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>>153419369
Literally the only overpowered PVP classes in Cleric are Kabbalist and MAYBE oracle if you're really autistic about your debuff. Diev is fine, ausrine can be rushed down and played around. PD is downright weak and incinerate is so hard to land they're worse than most swordsmen with their offensive skill.
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played TBL all day, saw some buggy crashes but I don't think i saw a cheater
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>>153420136
Here:
http://orteil.dashnet.org/cookieclicker/

You can go now. And if you want to shitpost I think the other chan has a idle games general for you.
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>>153420591
I saw a bowfag oneshotting everyone with autoattacks.
Seriously, what the fuck...
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Is anyone looking to roll new characters? I want to get into this game and having someone to play and erp with always makes it more fun.
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>>153420841
No one erps here, silly anon!
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Bee farm(assuming you find a free spot)
130/dungeon clears
Low(and butchered) spawnrate mobs for rare drop
Aside from the first, are there any spots where you can farm and steadily gain silver, not having to rely on RNG or waiting for reset/it to happen again?
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>>153420841
Try lalaco
>Always rolling alts
>Always erping
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>>153421105
My favorite spot is about a million an hour, but it requires active farming and not this weakass afk shit until the heat death of the universe.
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Don't trust anyone, not even yourself.
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>>153420689
Transcended equipment does retarded damage, the only reason people bitch about clerics in PvP is because people are cheap bastards and don't have good equipment yet.

Once people are geared up it's going to be a war of invincibility cheese and MMO tank.
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>>153421240
Well I am no nec/wizard to begin with. It's just so frustrating that they decrease channel numbers and fuck with droprates, tripling the time required to get a drop unless you are a luckshitter.
Does your spot require the usage of the market?
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>>153420689

Just imagine 5 grand crosses QS! Lv 15 running shot!
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>tfw leveling in ToS with a streamer leveling in Legion playing the background

Am I haram?
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>>153421686
HOLY FUCK I LOVE MAX AND RUBY
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>>153421240
>My favorite spot is about a million an hour
Please share.
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>>153421686
>tfw doing the exact same thing
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>>153422036
bump
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>>153420284
right now the cheaters are overpowered. catas who desync can hit the whole team and never drop someone from their spear.
swordies and archers will never miss with 100% accuracy via stacking gloves. which is hard to report because imc looks at numbers but doesn't know dodge rates.
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>Realize I want to go Wiz3Thaum3Whatever instead of Necro3
>No way in hell I'm leveling again

Class resets when
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>>153422036
not him but farming the staff for audra is around 600k per hour, and no one uses it
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>>153420001
why is dvine so insecure?
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>>153423116
I don't like to take market into account when talking about silver/hour. Yes you can make a good amount of money farming the staff and other things but with the low playerbase there's just not always a demand.
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What happened to Database?
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>>153418883
Last arena was fun. Looking forward to tonight!

One and a half hours until 1:00
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>>153423426
Because he was once futurecuck
The best part is that futureproof is the most cuck not because of no tp or lolipan, but because any of them still try to be friendly to dvine
Dvine is right about rance and cats, ironically
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bleeding is fun
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Anyone figure out how to fix getting TP?
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>>153426504
huehuehue
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>>153426054
>making everything be about [insert guild]

Shitposter.
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Marriage system when? Lolipan + divine wedding when?
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>>153425397
>tfw fapped to this picture multiple times
Makes talking to him really awkward.
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>>153427172

holy shit anon
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Why are we dying?
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>>153427037
>tfw the marriage system will never come and you will never be able to marry your crush
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>>153428642
Nobody wants to do anything because all the difficult content takes effort and people can't shake the idea that it'll be wasted because "r8 soon!"

So nobody is doing anything and pvp in this game is a joke so we don't have a lot to talk about.
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>>153428703
>not marrying your crush for real
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>>153428642
>>153428871
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Since WhostheDoggy removed his autopot and redditfags dont want to share their, can someone know where to download some autopot?
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>>153429019
they don't allow gay marry here
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>>153429206
>get autohotkey
>put in script
>script pushes one fucking button for you every 5 mins
>profit
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Is the game dying?

I started playing with 2 friends a few days ago. We are lvl 35-40 now but since people are saying the game will die soon I wonder if its worth the time to play our characters.
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>>153429706
Yes its dying and bleeding players

The whole thing was just a big cashgrab
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>>153429706
>few days ago
>lvl 35-40

Anon.. You can get to 170 in minutes with hook64.
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___________________BOKOR_________________________WOLF_____________
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>>153418883

>Forget hook64
>Forget Kabalists in Arena
>Forget losing friends & guild mates
>Forget IMC ruining the game

You can;t replace your old friends, but you can come to Kateen Forest ch1 at 1:00 tonight for the event and make new friends! We'll be happy to chat and have drinks while watching the fights, so please drop by and visit everyone!

I've personally reached out to all of the major TOSG guilds and made sure that they let their members know, so we're expecting a good turnout just like last time. If no one is chatting with you, come find Cats and we'll do something fun!
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>>153429794
>cashgrab
They are so incompetent they didn't even know how to monetize properly.
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>>153430152
stop namedropping yourself fucking attentionwhore
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>>153429019
fuck off rance/katz
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Wasn't GvG supposed to be changed?
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For once i managed to wake up in time
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>wants to take part in all of this shitposting and drama
>tfw shitty level 63 petalsta2
>tfw no face
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>>153430941
I gotchu son.
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>>153431207
saved semenpie
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So now we get free TPs?
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>>153431482
Must be nice being a fedimian templar.
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>>153424206
it's a no competition farm is the only reason i bring it up. farming pure silver is still probably fastest in the 130 dungeon.
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>>153430152
>forget hook64
i can't forget than imc won't even try to fix it
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>>153408516
>100% uptime on lifeline
i actually never thought about it this way
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>>153432417
Is it really that hard to detect? Why don't they have a logging system?
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>>153431695
Yeah, lots of intense PvP fights in that server
I wonder how people wake in and say to themself :"Today i roll a competitive PvP build :)"
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Stop giving me talt you dumb nigger dungeon!
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Why have people stop selling Corpse Hands on market? And what's the easiest way to get White Hair now that they aren't available as easily no more?
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>>153430152
wew get a trip please.
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>>153433201
You watch your whore mouth, racist.
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Do we reached a consensus on STR/DEX distribution for Murmillos and Dragoon2?
I am towards 1:1
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>>153433537
Consensus? You people still talking about this?

STR is irrelevant. Even if you had 2000 atk, it's literally NOTHING when skills all have 10k base damage. You're better off going DEX and critting.
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>Other bowfags ask me what my stat distribution is
>"Man that's dumb"
>Outrank them everytime

Please don't let this stop in the higher levels. It feels so good.
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>>153433674
so DEX/CON 4:1?
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>>153433674
There isn't only that single r8 skill with absurd base damage in most builds though
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>>153433848
100~140 CON is what you'll probably need in order to survive in the foreseable future. PvP and PvE.
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>>153433991
You could put all your Pre-Rank8 skills on cooldown and it still won't equal a single cast of a Rank8 skill. Not to mention, STR was only slightly better for some of those skills. You're not losing anything.

Not to mention you get ACCURACY AND EVASION, too.
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>>153429206
>153429206
learn to use autohotkey?
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>>153434015
So literally 1 STR, 150 CON and rest DEX? Even for PvP cata3goon going lancer?
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>>153434892
That's right.
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For cards like, let's say, Glackuman, does it raise (slash) defense by a percent or just by some value.
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>R8 introducing ten billion base damage skills
>no changes to how strength works
So much for my STR distribution.
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Goodnight, /tosg/
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>>153435613
But you get block penetration...

...even though SPR would be better.
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Ohayou?
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>>153435613
>>153435803
That's not even the worst. PvP becoming a 1-shot fest is the worst result of that huge powercreep.
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>>153436083
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post classic /tosg/
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>>153432753
it's not hard to detect.
apparently they have apparently no automated checking software for player files, if they bother recording logs.
i mean you'd think they'd keep logs with all the fucking restrictions.
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who did this
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>>153436307
https://u.pomf.is/jldnys.jpg

I miss the times when this thread used to be magnificently cute and gay.
>>
Give me one good reason to not start using hook64
>>
Can someone explain the difference between Mergen's Spread Shot & Triple Arrow?

The dev blog said Triple Arrow would be everyone's favorite move, but spread shot just looks better despite some explosion effect that isn't explained all that well.
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>>153436503
i'll report you
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>>153433741
>Outrank them everytime
so you're a wugu in missions?
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>>153436503
you'll be paying a massive sperg for it
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>>153436503
imc might someday start giving a shit
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>>153436563
He probably is, wugus can outrank other dps's in missions even with 15 level gaps. Though it's not that hard to do if your dps's aren't that great/haven't invested in themselves
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>>153434127
Dumb as bricks.

Rank 7 and rank 8 has shown a trend in which monster pdef scales far faster than STR gains from levels or extra base/enhance dmg on weapons.

What does this mean for STR vs DEX? Well if you go full DEX and you don't have armor ignoring abilities, your low level multihit skills will start to suffer, badly.

Full DEX A2/Falconer trying to use Multishot against a mob with 1000pdef? The mob will enjoy tickle time. Full STR A2/Falconer trying to use Multishot against a mob with 1000pdef? Way better damage. The reason for this is that the mob defense is factored in before every other multiplier.

You have 500patk from levels + random bits of str/gear and you have a 1000patk bow. You Multishot10 (161 dmg) a mob with 1000pdef, your damage will be (661 * 1.5 for crit + elemental damage) * attribute modifier. So you'll be critting for somewhere along the lines of 2000-2500. Pretty pathetic.

Instead of pure DEX, the A2/Falconer has 800 STR. Damage now becomes 2800+ on a non crit.

But that's only if you don't have armor ignoring abilities. Again, if the trend continues, this will be a HUGE deal because some of the 300+ mobs have gained a large amount of pdef over their 250-280 counterparts.

Translation: for rank 8 STR vs DEX doesn't matter too much still because mob pdef hasn't power creep'd that high. But when mobs get 1k or 1.5k or 2k pdef, multihit skills without high amounts of STR (or even INT for casters) will become useless if the build doesn't have some sort of armor reduction/ignoring ability attached to it. Skull Swing and Attaque Coquille become a hell of a lot more attractive for DEX builds with that in mind.
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>>153436730
>using Falconer and Multishot as an argument when R8 people are using shit like Snipe with 400% + 9503 damage
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>>153436843
he's trying to misinfo people using i'm guessing an argument from the forums.
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>>153436730
This
>>153436843
Multishot was a nice scaling skill, but it has no place on the Rank8 big kid's game. 1000 pdef nothing when skills have 7k~15k base damage. Having STR there mitigates the issue, that wasn't big to begin with.

Just accept your low base damage skills are now useless and move on with your life. I hope you didn't fall for the STR/INT meme.
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any hook64 users ransomed yet?
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>everything scales nicely all the way to R6
>R7 is kind of fucking out there
>R8 has spammable skills doing 50,000 damage non crit at an absolute bare minimum
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>>153436707
wugu dps is shit compared to fletcher though
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>>153436843
The 400% actually covers the 9503 part as well.

All skill with multiplier in the tooltip are poorly translated, and it's meant to be a final multiplier.
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>>153437283
The biggest question here is: Why? The current existing monsters have 130k life and are still too much to handle for most builds. Why did they have to shoot monster HP up to 370k~500k is beyond me.
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>He fell for the "futureproofing is a meme" meme
>He built his shit around getting high damage NOW instead of synergizing well with shit that'll undoubtedly blow it out of the water later
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>be bokor int lycanthrope
>+10k attack damage
>+10 ms
>invulnerable
>finally get to maul people
>dodged
>dodged
>dodged
>dodged
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>>153437379
It's give and take, if they're both equally attributed then wugus will win the dps race in missions on golem and tree just because of poison weakness. Fletchers are usually more invested in though so usually can beat wugus. Also the thing with wugu is you can fire your AIDS dart and it doesn't rely on the mob/boss standing still.
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>>153436843
Reading comprehension, work on it.

I'll even re-iterate my point here so you're not scared away from reading that "big wall of text".

Ready?

For now STR vs DEX doesn't matter much. But in the future, it'll be something to consider FOR CERTAIN MULTIHIT SKILLS because of how damage is calculated and how monster pdef works. Armor ignoring skills will be far more valuable to keep multihit skills from becoming worthless if they have low base damage or when used in DEX builds.

So if your build relies heavily on a multihit skill for its damage - like say A2/Falconer3, then you're gonna do basically little to no damage once you start fighting mobs with really, really high pdef.

>>153436998
I don't need some fucktard theorycrafter to do my thinking for me.
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>>153437572
Why not use your bokor stuff then? Also how is it actually, I'm thinking of rolling a something wolf but apparently wolf is pretty shitty in pvp and not much greater in pve.
Also how is playing in transformed mode? Do you get that bug where you get stuck in spot everytime you're hit?
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>>153435105
>>153435105
No one can answer?
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>>153436307
>classic
>not icbt1/2
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>>153437597
Wugu attributes don't scale like you think they do, in fact they hardly scale at all. Fletcher is not just magic arrow either, broadhead also does extra damage to poison weak enemies, DMA is crazy on plate armor and barbed arrow is one of the strongest filler skills, even on plate targets which are strongest to it. You also get steady aim bonuses, flare shot, etc. Fletcher is unbeatable because it can stack so many skill tics on an enemy and then spam barbed arrow on top of all that.
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>>153436307
CANELLEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>153437921

They do scale but not like other skills, for instance what you will be improving is the base damage of your skills. 1k at 100% becomes 2k
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>>153437782
It's +1 slash defense per star. A lot of cards are completely fucking worthless. Firelord is 10% proc chance for +1 fire elemental damage per star. So once rank 15 is released, having 15 Firelord cards at rank 10 will be almost as good as having a arde dagger. On bosses. With a 10% proc rate for a 10ish seconds buff (which is at the very least on the second row). I'd still keep 1 copy of each harder to acquire card around, just in case.
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>>153438254
Exactly, which is absolutely terrible scaling in comparison to most everything else.
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>>153438373

Thing about poison is that its heavily dependent on your base physical attack. For instance if you have 4k physical attack then your poison will tick 4k + 1k (0% attribute). Poison is more futureproof than you think.
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>>153437572
Clerics couldn't be getting away with it everytime now, could they?
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banhammer already coming down on hook users!
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>>153437767
>>153438860

tip if going specifically for wolf

dont invest in INT
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>>153437767
Lycanthrophy will fuck your buildup unless you went Bokor>Monk both of which relies on Dex and Str, otherwise youll be transforming into a werewolf for the sole purpose of showing people that you can.

tried it with pvp, every wolf skill is physical, meaning level 305+ players will dodge that shit, the skills are nice with pve especially with the taunt/aoe but you will doing less damage compared to just using magic.

tldr, if youre an INT druid, dont expect much with Lycan, Henge would be your thing as it doubles your m.atk, point is, you wont be doing ridiculous r8 damage with the wolf itself, sad to say, its still carnivory you would use for DPS
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https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=631
See you in 30 minutes
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>>153438510
>heavily dependent on your base physical attack

That's pretty much everything else too. Except they get to do 200% damage because their attribute isn't shit and they can crit for 1.5x more on top of that.

It's cool that if for instance you have 4k phys and your poison does 4k +2k (100% attribute) tics, but if you had any other skill you could have (4k + 1k) x2 (100% attribute) tics and it could also crit.
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>>153439412
>implying I'm coming back to this shit hole
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>emergency maintenance
so what do we do now?
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>tfw didnt finish the boss
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>start saalus run
>ruins
>"Dear Saviors..."
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>>153439592
Quit
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>>153439592
kys
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>>153439592
im gonna go cry myself to sleep
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>mfw have 3 mains
>doppel 3
>druid 3
>cannon 3
>both had nothing on its r8 except more dps on my dps
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>WBs could have spawned
>"Dear Saviors...."
Does it means now all the fuckers will spawn together 2h after server opening again?
Also need to find a better way to keep timer overnight than camping boss at a supposed new spawn time
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What if

>were allowed to teleport to where our guild tower is?
>World Bosses will have monster icons on the map when it spawns?
>Guild raids give their bosses' respective boss cubes so that people would want to be in more guilds and participate in raids?
>we remove neutrality again
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>>153440174
>we make the game run good

it would become a 10/10 for me.

no more fucking stuttering. 60fps in dungeons with 5 other people. that's my dream.
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>>153440174
>Guild raids give their bosses' respective boss cubes so that people would want to be in more guilds and participate in raids?
Can any not cancer Crimson tier guild doo Raid Event right now?
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So should I just get the Sissel Bracelet? Or will the r8 update give us better options for bracelets? I pretty much have everything except 2 good bracelets.
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>>153440335
kToS has no new equipment outside ET Solmiki yet
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>no sign of them fixing the bugged rankings
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>>153439412
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>>153440335
Do the 280+ monsters literally not drop any recipes?
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>>153440817
yes
Your Superior Corona is relevant at 330 because right now there is no new weapon to use over it
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>>153439592
>wherever we go we must Ohayou
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>>153440817
they drop . . . . (You) . . .

>>153440335
>>153440418
there are some at 270 but no better jewels
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ALIVE
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>Over the sky powercreep
>almost no new equip
>180° shift of balance
>no sense scaling of mobs stats from 280 to 290 and beyond
Yeah, rank8 is saving this shit right
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>>153441059
cute
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>>153441212
No!. Its shit.
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Someone know where drop Spada Recipe?
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>>153441593
Speak English
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HOLY SHIT WHY IS IT SO FUCKING HARD TO GET THE VIRTOV SET PIECE THAT I WANT

I ALREADY HAVE ALL THE MATS READY I JUST NEED RECIPE HOLY SHIT
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>>153442696
>Moo for me.. Moo for me and i'll milk you.
Can i have Lalacow's fb too?
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>>153441059
>>153439592
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>>153439385
I don't mind that much, wolf at least gives a decent and consistent out put of damage for flying things.
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>>153439592
Damn. They also fixed the collection bug.
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>>153443391
is that a good or bad thing
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>>153442017
我强奸你妈啊
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>>153443174
what are their names
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Is Orsha server decent?
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So what's the Saalus process? I hate to make my own party then what?
Does the boss scale to the highest member? What do you actually have to do?
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>>153444743
its just like mission with no exp
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ライマ 14人
ジェミナ 35人
ヴァカリネ 32人
ガビヤ 14人
サウレ 14人

Guys...
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>>153444924
You don't get exp? What's the point? Just for the untradable items?
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IMC has to remove Lv2 Abbrasive from TBL shop or increase cost to 1000+
This way a lot of leechers will be filtered down and quality of PvP slightly improved
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>>153445149
bless gem for transcend meme
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>>153445064
JTos has had an "extraordinary maintenance" that finished a lil bit ago
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So how much does that panda raise your crit rate/damage by?
Is it by percentage or a fixed amount?
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>>153445206
>implying that would stop leechers
Just balance the matching system, separate rank 5/6/7 and we're good to go.
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>>153445149
Yes. Getting Didel Grand Cross is surprisingly easy if you don't play QS3.
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https://github.com/FiftyCaliber/ToS-Addons#the-bigger-they-are

anyone tried this plug in? does it work?
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>>153445382
That won't stop the hyped horde of Sword1Pelt1Hop3DoppelDragoon, 90% of them full STR too, comming PvP only to leech 50 daily points for that Abbrasive
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Which mod makes spacebar work on targets mouse mode can't click without having to swap modes?
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>>153445458
It's better than having 3 varied immunity giving clerics + resu on the enemy team we have right now.
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>>153445658
The custom target settings mod.
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>>153445362
Do those nerds have open guild pvp or do they have neutrality already?
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Tried Monk>Druid3 today

and figured that Double Punch with an attribute of 50 is my single skill that gives the most DPS, even better than howl and quake(?) as there is no way to increase Wolf form's skills since there is no attributes

might go monk>druid3>monk3 or monk>druid3>inq2 depending on how good shepperd is
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>>153447454
Can you upload a vid of how it is please?
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>>153444734

nothing wrong with it

comfy, economy's stable, and you can get the people you need for what you want to do. cancer is minimal and contained to 2/3 guilds. br presence is overexaggerated.
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Does the Circling Attribute allow other Classes to double their damage? Or is it strictly for the Falconer's other skills?

I tried Falconer and it feels like shit, I believe it really needs some buff. Like adding -2% physical attack to Circling, so at lvl 15 Circling it will have +30% attack against all targets under Circling making it worth it to level it to 15.
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>>153447673
>ghost town server
>nothing wrong with it
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>>153447860
even if it were a ghost town id rather a ded server than one full of shitposting klaicucks
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>>153436843
Do you have brain damage?
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So, a physical wiz would be wiz, pyro, linker 3, thaum 2, enchanter? With a Venom?
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>>153448403
Power Staff, idort.
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>>153447619
give me an hour i guess
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>>153448403
Why would you do that?
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>>153448403
get chrono3 and max quicken
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>>153448779
Nah, fuck that. Stabbing with secondary weapon TRU-physical mage.
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>>153448805
Thanks lad, really appreciate it.
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ah fuck seamonkey ina server is updated, can't pull npc windows anymore ;_;
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>>153449102
what programs do you guys use when uploaded webms?
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>>153449171
https://github.com/WebMBro/WebMConverter
https://github.com/MasterOfWebM/WebM-Converter

Pretty sure these 2 are good to use
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HOW DO I GET MORE KEYS
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>>153449453
Make a new character. There's nothing you can't trade besides gems, so just open what you want, trade, delete the char, and make another.

I wonder if IMC will remember to ever add keys and chests that aren't collections again.
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>>153448403
Magic wizards are already shit at r8, why would you want to be super shit?
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>>153436730
This really made me think. For high doppel's, it's possible that they will want to max doppel c3 defense reduction skill; Skull Swing's cd is far too high at 40s, for continued use, Sturzhau gives you another option with a slightly lower cd and overheat, although having a weaker def reduction.
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>>153450002
Because it's stronger than regular shit and made of gold.
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>Reddit LUA teams have private addon to take logs of channels population so they can make pretty graphs and get their WBs timers with 0 minutes of camping involved
>Meanwhile /tosg/ has nothing like that
How we can compete?
Don't we have a LUA team too capable of this?
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>>153449846
That's kinda dumb.

Know of any builds that have a Corsair with points in Unlock Chest?
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>>153450226
Haha no
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>>153450317
Is there even anything only a corsair can unlock?
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>>153450405
He might not be memeing you. Wasn't there a mob with 3k need and only 1k pdef?
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>>153450528
I want the contents of all chests for my main character.
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>>153450529
dagger will still do like no dps at them

>powerstaff
yeah, good luck on that. and probably also shit
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>>153450246
Pretty sure we have people that can do that as well, the problem is, we don't care.

Most people here doesn't even play the game - because of the game, they play because their friends in the guilds that they are in. No one here try hards, expect for maybe some minigame players, but they are so few that get buried in the ERP sea.
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>>153450246
It's amazing how many things are client side in this shit game and how big is the advantage a guild can get by having someone competent in LUA for free hacks.
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>>153450246

Oh, Comfy has one of those.
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>>153450529
>>153450405
You are both missing the joke
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>>153450246
Isn't something like that illegal because unfair advantage?
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>>153451461
What is it?
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>>153451807
Something you're apparently too young to get. Read
>why would you want to be super shit?
and then read >>153450226 again
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>All top guilds hack/cheat/exploit in one or another
>the choice is being an honest working Cuck or start cheating too
Nice game
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>>153451945
>>153451807
In case you actually are too young https://img.4plebs.org/boards/f/image/1471/98/1471980066495.swf
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>feed pet
>TBL
>die
>respawn with 0 stamina on pet
>can't feed pet in TBL

I might as well just bring my hampster.
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Am I cute yet?
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>>153452452
>>153451945
>being this buttflustered over people not getting a joke

Nigga, please. You should've used a better analogy for Dragon Ball, "made of gold" just sounded strange there. I can't check you swf btw
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>>153452734
You're not a fencer, so no.
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>>153452885
M-meanie.
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>>153452734
Yes. And i already said that when you asked last week.
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>>153452807
Stupid phoneposter.
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>>153453084
Wow, rude.
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> ■■■■■■■ idiots in imC we need gvg in 9pm! evening suka tupie mrazi
Anyone else FUKCING HATE azebu?
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Jesus fucking christ IMC apply yourselves
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Anon, please, I need that addon who shows how much silver I got from a monster and the silver/session.
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>>153453727
>clearly using add-ons
>blames IMC regardless
I know they're bad, but come on.
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>>153454298
>add-ons
No? That's Minimize Chat. The built-in alternate chat function. Press enter, click the gear. I have a couple addons but the only one that affects chat in even a minor way is the better chat filter one.
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>>153454197

CwSilver from the add-on manager.
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>>153454298
Play the game, retard.
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Has anyone been punished for using Zoomy?
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>>153454489
No.
They only punish for levelling 1-330 in 1 second with Hook64 or for +60 gear when someone make a +200 posts thread on forum to report you
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Somebody end the bots
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>>153454915
Literally a Lineage 2 bot train.
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>>153454408

>cw

But I read here that addons from this guy abuses some features that are easily traceable by imc (like the market one). Is this real safe? Thanks already for the info anyway
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>>153454915

thanks god I moved to silute
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>>153455072

Rule of thumb is that anything on the add-on manager is fine. If anything on it should ever be bannable one day, IMC will issue a grace period for you to uninstall.
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>>153454915
>>153455036
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>>153436307
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>>153454915
>Remove blessing
>Remove extra damage lines
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>>153436307
It's sad
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>>153454915
Bots are the only new players and the only people I can sell items to.
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>>153452734
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No new event for freebies this week?
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>>153457682
Yes, I can finally stop logging in.
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We just had a GBL against some easy guild, so we decided to take the time and explore the arena and take note of what we found. Hope this shitty MSpaint infopic of mine helps.
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>>153458658
Very useful info. Are they strong enough to where it'd be worth fighting for control of the orbs at the start instead of beelining for the enemy tower? The high vubbes seem to have millions of hp, so I can't imagine how strong the golem is.
>>
This game got even worse with r8.
So many class dies for the sake of the new ones it's simply not even worth it.

R6+ content powercreep and trans system are killing this game pretty much, needs a complete overhaul. But since imc couldn't be bothered to give mob skills to use instead of auto aim unavoidable magic or ridiculous hp value there's pretty much no hope anymore.

And pvp is worse than ever.
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>>153458658
based katz
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>>153458658
>>153459054
The guardian orbs don't spawn until 3 minutes in
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>>153459054

The vubbes are a group of level 285 mobs. Anyone under level 265 can't touch them.
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>>153459417
The vubbes are not very strong, you can simply use an oracle and change them into something else and then kill them with ease
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>>153459545

ahahaaaa... what?

>"quick, oracle-chan, start changing all of those vubbes!"
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>>153458658
Is this some fukcing moba or what
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Today is a special day. Post cute things!
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>>153460942
Man you never get bored of reposting the exact same unfunny bullshit. It was never even funny in the first place.
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What ToS need now the most is to add monsters with at least 400-500 Evasion.
It would make me really happy
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>>153461683
>Most Wizards are fine with this
>Necros suffer even worse
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>>153461683
Atleast it will make clear going DEX is the best choice for Swordman now
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I'm considering leveling a squire to provide extra comfyness to my guild. What's the recommended classes pre-R5 and which abilities besides refreshments should I be maxing?
>>
who
>>
Bokor
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>>153462426
Armor maintenance and weapon maintenance as well as refreshments, this gives your group the perfect et buffs.
You'll want pelt before squire but everything else doesn't really matter
>>
wolf
>>
here
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>>153462534
What About cheap repairs? Or is the silver savings not worth the huge buffs from the maintenance skills? Seems like one we get 270 and up great it's going to get incredibly expensive at the NPC.
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atom
>>
hook
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>hunting dolls for my last piece of cotton for over an hour
>find a golden voodoo doll
>still nothing

what the fuck, yesterday I got 3 cottons with barely 2 hours of hunt and now this shit happens
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>>153462758
You max Food buffs and Tend, max one Maintenance ad drop the rest of the points, 10, in repairs.
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Who is the cutest tos couple
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>>153463765
There aren't any cute couples, only circlejerks and their extensions.
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>>153463765
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>>153463750
Okay thanks. I'll probably get weapon maintenance, the armor buff doesn't seem very good. Is the tent only available to party members? And I suppose arrest is useless for a comfy squire.
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>>153463765
My cutie is so cute she makes us the cutest by default
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVWhvZ6u9A4

105 bats.
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It won't be long until we get some kind of Maplestory-like burning event. Make it super fast and easy to make new characters. Look forward to it.
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>>153463750
What do you get out of repair per level? Skill description seems vague
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>>153465248
More over durability repairs however with how many low cost repairs that exist, even max repairs are near worthless compared to weapon and armor maintenance for guilds.
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>>153464757
BUENO
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How on earth can someone afford levels 71-100 without RMT or afk farming for months?
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>>153465528
Who the hell are you
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>>153465346
So it just gives you over max durability per level? Seems kind of useless except for maybe fencers. Doesn't the armor maintenance only give like 15 def at max? Doesn't seem very good to me.
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>>153465745
have a sugar daddy
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>>153465745
Dedicated world bossers get around 12-15mil per day so 10 days or so is enough to reach near 100.
Afk bee farmers used to get 3mil per day and even with the nerf, now get 1-2mil per day meaning multiple chars being done on multibox will get it done within 2-3 weeks if less.
People who know how to use the market properly earn around 10-20mil per week, if not more.
And of course theres 130 dungeon farming which is 750k per day per char.
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>>153465745
Get worldboss drops
Sell worldboss drops

Non-afk farming for 1-2 weeks

In other words, not being a lazy piece of shit
Also why would you max fletcher attributes at this point

They will be shit in R8 content
Better make a fencer
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>>153465823
The goddamned Batman, once R8 hits.
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>>153466084

Yo Karga do your bats trigger Revenge 7 on yourself or against themselves?
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>>153466018
>Dedicated world bossers get around 12-15mil per day
retard
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>>153466018
>Dedicated world bossers get around 12-15mil per day so 10 days or so is enough to reach near 100.
Not even close.
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>>153466217
On me.
I'm also deathly afraid of Invocation + MM.
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>>153465745
Playing the game, I can easily make 1m day just from indirect farming - if I manage to get something that can sells for a good price, it's even better.

Since I'm a nice Guy(female), ll give you a hint, go sell Pincers, I used to make easy money with that.
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>>153466271
>>153466305
I speak from experience.
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>>153466594
/tosg/ doesn't know what dedicated means

They think occasionally having the itch to hunt for some worldbosses or hearing timers here and there counts as dedicated worldbossing
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>>153466594
k
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>>153466594
I do too.
You won't get that much money unless you're crazy lucky.
Most WN drops sell like shit anyway now.
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>>153436307
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>>153466313
What's the HP pool of a single bat?
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>>153436307
Where did it all go wrong
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>>153466775
>what are templeshooter cards
>what are audras
>what are petamion recipes
The only thing thats not worth much these days are glad bands from cerb and everything from ella
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>>153466998
Most of these people aren't mentally retarded like you and stopped caring about random whos from a shitty korean masochism simulator.

You have to realize 95% of the people in that screenshot don't care a single bit about you or anyone in that screenshot or this trashy game for that matter
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>>153466995
Only around 2-3k HP, I'm not sure if it'll see any significant increase with 50 more summoner levels.
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>my chatlog is literally filled with meme in and meme out from people on my friends list
how the fuck do I stop this?
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>>153466018
>Dedicated world bossers get around 12-15mil per day
Yeah, sure thing.
>>153466746
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>>153467339
Chat options qt. Same place you turn off the scrolling shout bar.
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>>153467182
>what are templeshooter cards
I actually never tried to sell those, I guess I should
>what are audras
Around a million on my server
>what are petamion recipes
That's the only big drop left from world bosses, but I'm pretty unlucky with Necro.

So unless you drop 2 Peta in a day getting 12-15 millions right now is hardly possible.
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>>153467526
And even then you actually have to sell the loot. Which is almost as hard as getting it in the first place.
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>>153467491
thank you based god
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>>153464771
Yeah and we really need it!
Alt making events would be cool
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>>153466998
There are people playing now that outlasted all these players and just as friendly, the nostalgia for when everyone was bad at the game is so silly.

IMC needs to give us back our god damn party events though, look at all those different fucking hats we can't get.
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>>153467182
>>what are templeshooter cards
They sell like 15-20 talt if you sell one
>>what are audras
Not even that expensive anymore, also hard to sell
>>what are petamion recipes
Good luck getting one from Necroventer
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REEEEEEEEE
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>I've done sialui mission every fucking day since the very start and still havn't gotten a glass mole cards yet theres some dude in chat selling 5 glass mole cards
AHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>153467852
You should actually file a ticket or whine on the forums since IMCompetent sure as hell doesn't go anywhere near /tosg/.
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>>153467603
This
WBs right now are good for cards but terrble for making money, actually i LOSE money from doing WBs
I am making more money with Chappariton Staff for 150k than shit like Gladiator Bands
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>>153459159
>But since imc couldn't be bothered to give mob skills
Thank God, Ice Pike and Spiral Arrow are too much damage to me, imagine if they started casting Frost Cloud or Covering Fire
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>>153468286
>he only has 40 cards yet does world boss
lmao
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Strongest squire pvp build coming through
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11337bbb.234555.3a4a65.112535.1f2f4f
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>>153468523
You dont leveled monster cards yet? its already 2 weeks since update. play the game.
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>>153468763
>leveling cards when you can purchase level 10 cards
lmao
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>>153468831
hello rmt hook64
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>>153468523
I have more than 1 character
Also, i feeded already a Glass Molefrom lv1 to 10
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we need a card abrasive
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>level 277 and still using bearkaras and zachariel
pls tell me theres something better for poorfags like me later on at r8
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>tfw want to sell my cards
>afraid of doing so since you have to do more than just open the trade window
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>>153469280
When the next patch hits, Card abrasives will be in the shop for 6 tp
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>>153469380
Get 2 Glass bracelets, magical defense is better than nothing.
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>>153469621
block pen is great for pvp, also, you could try farming up some rapid bangles
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>>153469380

which class do you play?
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Can we please stop shitposting and just more Capyba lewds?
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Got banned for using Hook64 to buy gem abrasives.

Bye guys..
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>>153469937
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>>153470245
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>>153470245
get fucked
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>>153470245
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>>153470245
Bypass daily limit or buying them without points? Or both?
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>>153470245
You aint fooling no one
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>>153470874
He already fooled 4 people.
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have ya'll seen video bout sage copying tons of bats?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVWhvZ6u9A4
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>someone I know literally just bought out the whole barrier market in varena just so he can sell his overpriced one
can someone explain this logic? buying out cheap peoples shit changes nothing when they can just resell at the cheap price
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>>153471461
Why can't the copy skeletons its not fair
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>153471505
He probably assumes that he has enough funds to keep doing it
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>>153471505
Because it takes awhile to bring back to the lower price when the base price is established. The base price is the first item entered.
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So according to this, max transcendence requires 700 shards however there are already nips near this.
Does this mean they did shard dailies on multiple chars per day or something or do nips rmt alot more than we do and reroll alot or is it both?
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>>153472593
>on multiple chars
Impossible.
Shards and awakened weapons are untradable.
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>>153472593

You can also fail trancendency, making you lose 1 stage if you do.
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>>153472593
That's each level.

Level 9 to 10 costs 700 shards.

Level 0 to 10 costs 2,830 shards.
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>>153472593
You can transcend even when you have less shards than required. e.g. instead of using 4 shards, you use 1 shard at stage 2.
Using 4 shards simply assures 100% success rate.

This is how some nips have reached stage 10 transcendence, they simply got lucky and won out or exploited the same way people anvil exploit. One or the other.
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>>153472593
Proof of anyone with lv higher than 5?
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>>153472776
You only can fail transcendence when you use less then the required amount of shards.
Using 1 shard at stage 2 means you have 1/4 (25%) chance of success.
Using 1 shard at stage 10 means you have 1/70 chance of success.
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>>153471505
>how does market manipulation work

Is this your first mmo anon?
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What does points into repair beyond level 1 get me besides the little bit of over limit max durability?
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>>153473685
nothing at all besides more sales since no-one purchases anything less then 15 repair
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>>153472940
>>153473074


Wow another fucking overpowered shit that can be exploited like enhancements

Fucking love gooks man
Great stuff Kim, great stuff

Can't wait to fight overpowered pieces of shits with lvl 10 transcended + 20 weapons in arena
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>>153473685
Customers.
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>>153473770

Yeah, I hate this enhancement system so much. It's just setting up for some overpowered bullshit cash shop item where you don't lose upgrades/potential if you enhance with it.
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>>153473916
>he thinks IMCompetent is competent enough to make the game p2w
of all the shit things this game is (e.g. 2fps meme and garbage class balance), p2w is not one of them
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>>153473770

inb4 +20 two handed spear gvg team wipe circling+ dethrone
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>>153474019

I know this game isn't pay2win, but every game in the last few years that introduces a punishing enhancement system eventually comes out with some bullshit premium consumables to go with it.

I'd prefer if this lottery progression didn't exist in the first place.
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>>153474019
>p2w is not one of them
Yet.
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>>153474019
Time will come.
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>>153474147
technically you can assure 100% success with your bless shit as long as you play with 100 billion years of saalus :^)
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>>153474113
You don't need dethrone for that, if you abuse fucking transcendence and exploit enhance you can get a bajillion attack, defense and mdef and just use rush to teamwipe anything by yourself
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>>153474369

I'm not even talking about that, the chances of legit getting something to +15 for weapons is so abysmally small and requires so much silver that it doesn't even feel worth it.
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Do mole cards stack?
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If there's so many exploited weapons as you guys claim why is no one selling that shit for real cash

I would totally pay a grand for a +20 weapon
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>>153474801
Risk is higher to get banned. It's easy to honeytrap.
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>>153473751
If I'm not planning on opening a repair shop to make silver it doesn't matter then? I just want to provide cheap break even repairs, the extra durability seems optional.
Are the maintenance shops two different types so I cant do both at the same time?
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>>153475108
No-one, literally no-one cares about your repairs unless they are level 15, not even your guild since its much better to just spend a slight amount of silver getting level 15/16 repairs. Not even your friends will care about your repairs due to how cheap repair market is.

If you're in a guild, the only kind of squires that matter are the type that have maxed weapon maint/armor maint/refreshments for et.
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>>153475534
I'll always use yeules repairs at ch3 fedi,
love the channel and even if its only 14 or less I don't mind it as long as its channel 3

Some people have channel preference and don't want to switch to laggy garbage channels for a slightly better repair
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>>153474505
Yes.
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>>153475534
Between armor and weapon maintenance. I'm leaning towards weapon. Ideally I just want to have a base camp with a weapon maintenance shop and food out?
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>>153475534
but why nobody sells armor maintenance ?
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>>153475823
If you're not making a squire for the tiny amount of silver you're getting from the weapon maint/repair market then you'll want maxed weapon/armor/refreshment as your sole purpose is buffing your party and leaving before they enter et.
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>>153475793
Does running shot snapshot your stats so you can drink a sp pot use it then get the boosted stat for the full duration?
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>>153476083

No.
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>>153476083
nope but retreat shot does which is why ranger3>sr3 is the meta in ktos
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>>153476072
Do food buffs wear off on death? And do they work in GvG?
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>>153476083
No card does that.

Altho, you can maintain the buff with melstis.
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>>153476210
Meant retreat shot. Thanks. Guess I'm an idiot for falling for the QS3 meme. It's probably still good for farming I guess.
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>>153476210
Wait retreatshot snapshots your shit with Glassmole???

WATAFUCK KIM
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>>153476364
>>153476210

Retreat Shot doesn't snapshot your damage.
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>>153476447
Except it does, go use retreat shot with steady aim.
Why do you think the ktos meta uses ranger3sr3?
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>>153476551

...bruh, do you know what snapshot means?
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>>153476435
It doesn't, but melstis can extend glass mole or chapparition effect for the whole party

>>153476551
Steady aim lasts 10 seconds, retreat shot lasts 10 seconds. It has full uptime for retreat shot, it doesn't get snapshotted nor does it need to.
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>>153476551
Ranger3SR2 here, you're full of shit.

You can just activate Steady Aim in the middle of Retreat Shot to test, of curse assuming you do have a RAnger3SR and you're not just pulling shit out of your ass.
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>>153466313
Also status effects. Who designed this?!
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>>153476676
Mole lasts 10 too so I guess it works out.
I guess with melstis a krivis daoshi paired with a SR3 is the new meta of screen clearing AoE
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When is CNL having their cute boy auction?
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>>153477002

mole only lasts 5 seconds.

But yes, Melstis + Retreat (or forward) + glass mole is the meta for aoe dps right now.
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>>153477002
>>153477630
An SR told that he feels that Muscs have future while SR3s have present.

Now I wonder how will rank 9 dick over every SR.
What wonderful ways will IMC invent.
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>>153477989
Well yeah, Musk3 will definitely be stronger than SR3. We can only hope SR3 will have a good class choice at R9
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>>153477540
After the auction to rights over Saigyouji's thick, juicy alchemist thighs.
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>>153477989
Zero mount compatible abilities would be pretty good.
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>>153478145
Rude.
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>>153477989

Yeah, SR3's are definitely going to get dicked. It all depends on if rank9 classes are worth picking up or not, or maybe finally a hidden class for archers
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Anyone have experience using sandboxie to run TOS? I wanted to trade an item between accounts.

I can run two steam accounts perfectly, but the sandboxied game launcher gets stuck at 0%.
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>>153478890
Nothing rude about facts, now stop watering your vegetables and turn around.
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>>153478915
Hidden class with two pistols!
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>>153479662
>QS3 hidden class into gunslinger
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>>153479273
I don't know how sandboxie actually works, but you can't run two tos clients using the same installation folder.
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>>153479852
Mariachi with skills compatible with dual pistols, cannons and rifles.
Gets a special 2hand guitar case weapon that can use all the skills.
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>>153463765
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>>153481395
I love them!!
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>>153481341
>guitar case tommy gun
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>>153463765
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I want to try this mythical bokorwolf anons, is it a meme? or is there truth in it?

or more in the line of "wait and see"?
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>>153482175
it works, full str bokor wolf does insane damage as does full dex bokor wolf when compared to r7 classes, its still garbage when compared to other r8 classes
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>>153482175
Wait and see. We don't know if using skills in wolf mode is intentional or not and leveling a physical bokor druid is a nightmare on the end game quest maps.
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>>153482386
do i only go full STR or full DEX? wouldnt this fuck my carnivory damage?

how is c3 druid anyways kind ktos lads
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>>153482473
c3 druid is a meme both pve and pvp wise
you won't deal anywhere near your friendly sr3 or fencer/dragoon
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>>153482782
So it's the new Monk, a hybrid support/damage dealer that people say is shit because they picked it purely for damage.
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WHERE DID FWEEEE CLARIN GO, PLEASE COME BACK. Grab lulamoon too.
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this is the money you get from a full clear of the 200 dungeon
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>>153482175
my guildmate is a monk>druid3 with a shark cutter.

what youd want is to procc bleeding as much as possible, shark cutter applies bleeding which scales with phys attack, with an additional bonus of 5 consecutive attack damage in one attack, and a werewolf has 5k/10k attack 5.6 with clerc 2

Monk c1 also has a skill that proccs bleeding and another skill that has armor break in it. and a spammable 0 cd skill that uses stamina instead of SP

>>153482457
using skills while transformed is intentional due to the one fact that any cleric skill that isnt physical wont get anything with lycanthrophy at all

as said before, a monk-dex-wolf would be the better werewolf, but an int druid would still be the better druid.
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>>153483253
>he doesn't know about 190 dungeon
LMAO
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>>153483295
>any cleric skill that isn't physical won't get anything with lycanthropy at all

That's because lycanthropy adds physical attack, not because lycan is specially designed to work with physical skills. People have also said you can use skills when in normal transformations now as well, and vids show the werewolf skillbar simply throwing itself on top of the ASDF skill line in the menu and using extremely janky animations for non-transformation skills. It doesn't seem like intentional behavior.
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>>153482965
more like in an INT progression C3 nets you:
miss
miss
miss
...
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>>153483561

How much money 190 dungeon gives? I did this only for science.
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>>153474019
imc had enchant protectors in granado espada, people spent multiple hundreds of dollars to be the strongest.
there's no reason to believe they won't shove something like that in this game.
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>>153483634
the Lycan transformation itself is weird, its not the same transformation base with other transforms, its like your character had a werewolf slapped on top of it and called it lycantrophy, which i guess is the reason why some diev skills never worked while transformed last week
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Is barb3's Warcry, Seism, Frenzy better than Sword3's Concentration and Restrain?
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>>153483982
for now, when r9 and r10 comes however..
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>>153481975
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>>153483982
Barb 3 is mostly for pvp pounce and warcry pve
Swords3 is mostly for double slash combo with shitnobi as well as 60% stun chance for pvp

Which one is better really depends on your other circles
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>>153483982

Of course.

Concentration is a very bad meme buff. Sometimes I don't even bother using it.

Barbr's new warcry is a great, up to 330 atk and this is pure atk that goes into your window stats, it crits and get amplified by %attributes. ktos also got a new warcry buff that increases it damge based on monter's level, nothing can compete.
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>>153484079
So what you're saying, if i'm reading correctly, given the number of levels increasing to maybe 600, sword3 eventually outscales Barb3?

>>153484191
Oh I wasn't aware there was such a substantial difference.

Problem is right now I have sword2 Peltasta on one of my characters. From here, I could take Barb2>Dop2 into Dop3. Or I could take sword3 (since I'm already in the hole) Barb1 into Dop2
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>>153483894
Yeah, the bokor-monk build sounds really cool especially because you could have a werewolf using energy blast when r9 comes out but it just seems like a ridiculously risky investment for something that could fall apart due to something getting "fixed".
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>>153484401
>doppel with pelt
you can reroll now or give up on doppel
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>>153484401
>sword2 pelt
why?
>doppel with pelt when swash can't be used with 2 handed and doppel 2/3 skills need 2handed
why?

Its still early, just reroll.
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>>153483831
>>153474019

There's already 'premium awakening stones' that make it so you don't lose potential when awakening an item. Not quite the same thing, but it wouldn't be much harder to move on from there and make another for anvils.
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>>153484572
What options do I have if I don't take dop?

>>153484697
It was my first character I made 4 months ago. I'm not into rerolling. Just going to try rolling with what I have.
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>>153484881
I'm still waiting for that day they implement that so I can actually p2win instead of being cucked by exploiters and hackers
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>>153484918
You could either go fencer, shinobimurm or dragoon2.
No matter which you choose, you'll be lackluster compared to proper builds (e.g. your dragoon build would be missing out on doppels whirlwind/deeds/etc or hoplite 3's finestra critrate/spear throw)
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>>153484964

TP into tokens.

what are you waiting for?

hehehehe
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>>153484918
you fucked up at sword 2 pelt, unless you go shinobi murmillo

its still early, reroll it
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>>153484918
pvp focus: https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1131777f
pve focus: https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1131444f
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>>153484534
Main problem with a bokor monk wolf is the leveling process especially without r8 yet, as you would literally be weak from 1-275 as the damage spike you based your build for is still at rank 8
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>>153485324
I can't reliably get +15 weapons no matter how many tokens I sell fucking Kim nigger
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>>153484918
rodlero>shinobi>murmillo is your only choice if you want a meta build without rerolling since the second pelt rank is largely optional in that build
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>get cube
>reroll twice
>it's all talts/card

People might say it's better I save up the silver than to waste it on rerolls, and they're right, but I just wanna feel lucky once in a while. It's that feeling of getting something nice out of a cube that I'm rerolling for.
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>>153485952
>I know I'm being retarded but I just want to feel lucky
So this is how you justify your real life gambling issues huh? Its not that you don't know any better, you just want to "feel lucky".

The truly lucky people anon are the people who are lucky enough to be born with a brain that does things rationally and doesn't rely on luck.
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>>153486142
lol did ur dad gamble your favorite bike away or something?

fkn nerd
>>
somebody sell me on LinkerC3Warlock

I know Magic Missile is getting "fixed" but JP MM looks still strong as fuck in the post patch ktos videos
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>>153486489
Link?
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>>153486489

Why would anyone sell you on a nerfed build?
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I think this is the best you can do to save this sword 2 guy's build and actually make a fun 2vs 2 character. High Dex Doppel (I KNOW, I KNOW, BUT HE BOUGHT THIS TO HIMSELF).

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11136899.23334a5965.15243541.114495b5.15253174.1a325a

Sword 2: Pain barrier is beautiful for cyclone and swordsman pvp in general, restrain 5 chance is not that low after the recent buffs: 30% for 45 seconds. Imo You can even go PB 10 and concentrate 9.

Pelt 1: Shieldman, no brainer. guardian brings more evasion to this very high dex build, taunt is always nice and C guard is really good on pvp.

Barb c1: Helm Chopper stun + Cleave combo by itself is never bad and since cleaves bonus is a huge % based on stunned target, it never falls of. Cleave also comes with the slash debuff and + 50 crit rate. there's literally no good doppel build without Barb 1.

Corsair c1: Since we got this far in this build, why not abandon Barb's 2 cleave/warcry/seism buffs to get Jolly Memes and Iron Hook? Despite being kinda low on base damage, Dust Devil is not that bad either if you combo it with Cleave.

R6: R7: Doppel 2. Feel free to MAx Cyclone since it's universal weapon, but you'll need to switch weapons to use the other skills, not really a problem since taunt>stun>cleave>cyclone is your main job anyway, your two handed sword will be used mostly for soloing.

So, Great farming character with jolly + double pay, high dex means great survival alone bar magic mob maps, not so painful daily 50 points minigame farming. Have fun.

Oh and Fencer 2 can be a option too.
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>>153486489
It's probably gonna still be good for pvp however pve
it's gonna be hard

mobs with 3k mdef m8
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>>153486489
The only dps path is ele3.
FC already fell of like a brick in r8, by the time r9 is here linker3 will be better to have than ele3 for a warlock3.

That's of course assuming warlock3 will be good.
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Can the Rexipher/Mirtis cards drop from the cubes or do they only drop for one person as a drop from the boss themselves?

Also, do Marnox/Helga have cards?
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>>153486847
All demon lords have cards right now, they're from the cube but good luck getting cards when its 99% talt.
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>>153486142

We all have our demons. This is mine.
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>>153486675
>mobs with 3k mdef m8
>already videos of those mobs still being two shotted
???
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>>153487038

share this video please
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>Current Year
>The "lol u don't get points for your first match" bug STILL exists.

So lemme get this straight. The majority of people who are serious about getting that fucking panda are going to experience this every day. Let's be generous and say that's 3-4 wasted minutes (Probably more with the waiting, loading, more waiting, more loading, etc). At least 1,200 minutes, 20 fucking hours of your life will be completely pissed away over the course of a year. By definition, we're all wasting our time on this stupid ass game, but at least it's doing something you want to get something you want. This is 20 hours of your life spent on NOTHING that you're not getting back. All because IMC can't be bothered to address this.

That panda better be fucking worth it.
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>>153486647
Thanks friend. Very detailed. Love it.
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what now?
Also how much in CON 30 total so far
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>>153487010
I wish I had Demon
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>>153488298
Oh my god, you can use your stat and skill reset potions right away,

better yet just reroll

>2016
>still
>STILL
>STILL making elememes

That's it buddy, their time is over, and your build is already ruined too.

Just reroll it's gonna be better for you
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>>153395112
Fedimian evening chat theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Koke3PCYdxQ
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>werewolf form double punch out of body

why not
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>>153488298
15 stone curse
10 electrocute
7 hail
1 prom
5 meteor
1 freeze sphere
1 rain
5 cloud
>>
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>>153488457
why?
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>>153488298
>elememe
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>>153488672
out of body doesnt work with wolf atm
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>>153487786
i'm just buying gem abrasives
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>>153486142
anon wasn't able to go to college because his mom was out whoring to cover his dad's mess with the numbers.
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>>153488298
280 elememe here follow >>153488457's advice.
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Try to wake me up from this. I don't want to roll another fencer

https://tos-kr.neet.tv/skill-planner#111138eee.23334d5f6a81.3541.15253174.172a31445161718595a5b5
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>>153489496
>fencer
>pvp
you're doing it wrong
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>>153484191
What would I be losing out on if I went barb2 instead of 3? This is for PvE. And do barbs always want 2hand or is 1hand shield pretty standard as well?
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>>153489496
>Fencer
>without barb3

Reeeeeroll
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cleric 3 priest 3

finish my build
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>>153489574

balestra one shots people, if they survive, restrain's stun followed by hook and the other shit will be enough

>>153489678

nothing, barb 2/corsair or barb 3 are solid pve choices. barb 3 for much more physical attack and pouncing or corsair for a little bit more utility

>>153489687
I have one barb 3 fencer already
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>>153489858
Paladin2Inquisitor1

>A mans pursuit faith made him descent the path of madness.
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>>153490007
what does this yield me
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>>153489858
krivi1pardoner1
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>>153490207
Suffering
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Is Featherfoot fun? How long does it take to get to rank 7 these days? How much longer is this game going to be alive?
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>>153490413
s-stats?

>>153490360
stats?
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>>153490463

1 week. 6 months
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>>153491147
Full SPIRIT of course, your devoutness to the almighty Lord will be reflected in your stats.

Also I meant to say Paladin1Inquisitor1.
You can also go Kabba1Inquisitor1 for the jewish version of that.
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>>153464069
this image is so good I don't know what to say
I'm not even telsiaian
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I want to make a monk>inquisitor, the build I'm planning is cleric2>krivis2>monk3>inquisitor. Is that decent? I heard inquisitor skills scale with both int and str, how should I distribute my stats?
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>>153491792
Are Koenig? Why bloody krivis2? Zalciai is getting fixed, you know
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>>153491494
>Kabbalist inquisitor
Do you even roleplay, you fucking heretic?
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>>153492001
U-Uh, since inquisitor skills scale with int too, I thought zaibas would be helpful.
>>
I keep coming up with fun build ideas that seem pretty okay but then I remember there's nothing to do with them once you actually finish them.
Oh well
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Remember to check now and then your guild guinea pigs in the hangout.
Especially overnight if either your templar or pet owner couldn't feed it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZsRxF6Zjhw
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>>153492120
Do they? Where does it say that they do? As far as I know, all of the skills are melee and have a fixed base skill damage.
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>>153492120
>int monk>inquisitor

What in the fucking goddamn yak testicles are you doing nigger?!
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Is it even possible to make an INT based Inquisitor ?
Something along oracle1/kaba/inquis for pvp
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>>153492119
>Do you even roleplay
paladin3 -> inquisitor is the only proper inquisitor build
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>>153491792
The only way krivis will work is if you went krivis 1 priest 1 with 3dex:1spr because of monstrace. Divine stigma is a meme unless they buff it. Zaibas is only worth investing in if you're going daoshi.

>>153492001
Hey, I'm not that bad. Why do people still use me as some hallmark of poor foresight?
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>>153492874

>why

Here we go...
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>>153492874
Because that is quite literally your build if I'm not mistaken, bloody attention whore. That build looks kinda bad too lmao
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>>153493171
My build is actually cleric 1 > krivis 2 > priest 1 > monk 3, 3 dex : 1 spr. Looking back, I would've gone with one rank into diev or paladin instead.
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>>153492874
I see, thanks Koe. I wish hybrid builds were a thing on this game.
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>>153490463
Featherfoot C1 is garbage, but they got pretty good stuff at C2.
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>>153493910
Does the little summon turret just do base damage+magic attack?
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>>153493675
No problem, but it's not really optimal to go monk c2 or c3 anyways if you go inquisitor. You get all your strike damage buffing skills at c1 and EB will fall off pretty hard when R8 comes along.
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Cleric2/Krivis3/Diev1/PD2

Melstis + Healing Factor + Chrono3 to keep up the buff on the whole group.

Yay/nay?
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>>153494147
I have no idea, but they gave it an attribute that triples the damage. The idea isn't that it does damage, but it applies the hexing effect. Then you use Kundela Slash to do double damage to them.
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>>153494486
Can bokors use effigy on targets hexed by FFs?
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>>153494679
Yes, it's the same debuff.
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>>153494350
Meltis is a stationary AOE with a long CD and HF has 100% uptime at level 5, its not really worth it for anything besides a gimmicky ET strategy
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>>153488457
>>153488943
What should I do guys?
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Clearly this oldschool RO everyone loves grinding garbage didn't work. Grinding for the sake of grinding isn't fun. Add some kind of endgame, as in something to fucking do once you get to rank 8 or whatever. Blessed gems were a start but it needs more. ToS would lend itself well to some kind of randomized labyrinth, say with doors that only open when a random skill from a random class is used on it (with alternate routes for those without, of course) forcing people to bring variety. Something like that dungeoneering nonsense Runescape added.

Add this and a leveling event and people will stay longer and even come back for a bit. Right now ToS is literally just the bad part of every other MMO that people wish they'd stop adding. That's the whole game.
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What are you spending your pvp points on?
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>>153495309
My condolences fellow wizbro

I hope you made the best of it while you had the chance
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>>153495309
Reroll a support.
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Would you?
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>>153495451
They should also add more support for alting - some bonuses and hereditary progress.
DFO like systems would be cool too: stats, skills, alt creating events that give fashion items for that char and exp bonuses
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>>153496336
This
Support or afk necros will be the only viable wizards in the future
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>>153495309
I don't understand why you all think that such a powerful set-and-forget spell means nothing. Why not take warlock and do more damage while FC is ticking away?
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>>153496775
Because warlock damage is shit for aoe and heavily outclassed for single target.
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>>153496558
The team level system was a good start but since kill experience is so incredibly minor it doesn't result in much. Considering the terrible balance I honestly think they should give everyone a one time class reroll.

They need to swallow their pride and realize most of what they've done in the name of nostalgia and vision is just garbage. There's a lot to like about ToS but getting to that stuff is a frustrating no-fun tedious nightmare. They fill a niche, they can keep that niche while still improving the game. They could be successful.
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What does increasing the level of the boss cards do?

Glass Mole card gives a % to physical atk right?
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>>153495451
Grinding for the sake of grinding IS fun. But I can't grind here because I'm wasting time I could be using to level up faster with quests or queue for my daily talt or being tag teamed by Poatas and Trees or farming some drop or enemy that gives no exp but has a high spawn and silver drop rate. And that's not even half the shit. This game has too much "dailies" crap to take it easy and kill stuff. If I played minigame too, I wouldn't have time to actually play the game.

>something to fucking do once you get to rank 8 or whatever.
There is nothing. Once you hit max level, grinding any further is pointless.
You don't need exp. You're max level.
You don't need attributes. You don't need to kill anything else.
You don't need better weapons. Fighting anything at this point is just wasting durability.
The only reason you need silver is if you're literally throwing your money away for no reason or storing it up for your new alt.

It's a flaw with this kind of game. Should have made a sandbox or made it so it'd take 5 years to hit max, instead of 5 weeks and get bored.
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>>153497137

>but since kill experience is so incredibly minor it doesn't result in much

I grinded from 1-234 so far, it's possible and more fun.
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>>153495451
>>153497137
>>153497528
Marvel Heroes has some nice stuff - in a game that is all about leveling to max and gearing up heroes(alts) there are while not perfect some nice systems:
1)1 hero at max level = +30% xp bonus, 2 heroes= +20% xp bonus (50% total), 5+ heroes= +5% xp bonus for each hero (in addition to the 75% bonus from the first 4.
200 max

2)Experience for each hero also gets added to account wide progression that you can reset and reconfigure as much as you want for stats.
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>>153496929
Then go Necro 2 and have flesh cannon on top of frost cloud for an extra spike of damage. Or War 1 Necro 1 and depend on your matk to make the natural cannon matk irrelevant.
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>>153497528
>5 years to hit max, instead of 5 weeks and get bored.
Then what's with all the RO pservers with increased rates? I agree with you as I used to play FFXI in its good years and iRO before that. A lot of people have different opinions but I think that's because post-BC WoW poisoned the well.

>>153497528
What's the point of endgame raids or dungeons then? Why do so many people do them in other games when their character is clearly max level?
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>>153498507
Flesh cannon does even less damage than frost cloud.
>>
>we hit 330
>still have to use 70 and 220 gear
>>
>>153497589
How long did it take you?
>>
I got bored of this game, what's a good substitute?
>>
>>153498518
>What's the point of endgame raids or dungeons then?

because bosses are fun and have actual mechanics and you get lots of cool new gear, but instead in ToS we get cube rolls and this
>>153498969
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>>153499391
The only alternative to RO-clone is WoW-clone, or WoW since all the other EQ-clones died off.
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>>153496538
Which guild can I buy a boyfriend from?
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>>153498518
>Then what's with all the RO pservers with increased rates?
Iunno, I never played higher than x15exp. Drop rate in RO is shit though so of course that gets increased. Rather than levels, something like Eve Online's time based system, or even Mabinogi's kind of system where you level so much in a week (previously a month), and then rebirth and level again while grinding your skills and waiting to be able to raise them.

>What's the point of endgame raids or dungeons then? Why do so many people do them in other games when their character is clearly max level?
That's literally what I ask people all the time. I don't even understand the concept behind raids, but they seem like they ruin mmorpgs so I hate them. I hate these "epic fights with giant bosses" type things in general.

I don't know how people can stand to do quests and raids and dailies every day and not die of 'meh'.

I do know one thing, doing what other people do in MMOs doesn't necessarily work. Look at every WoW clone. >>153495451 even believes doing what RO does doesn't work. Besides that, people want instant gratification, but if you want to make an MMO that last longer than a few months, you have to delay that and keep them chasing a carrot on a stick. Or make a game that's fun, with sandbox qualities. I can play Mabi all day and not fight anything. (and still get EXP too.)

In any case, my ideal would be a game where when it came to fighting enemies, you just went out and found shit to fight. You can go around and find/craft/buy outfits and equipment in game. You can do other minigame shit that isn't PVP. PVP fags are BTFO forever and regulated to arenas and shit. Bosses are just some powerful enemies that wander up to you in a field and politely ask you if you want to be raped hard or harder. Also it has to be cute, and preferably have the option for flat girls and big manly men, not just succgurls and fuccbois.
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>>153499354

Two weeks and a half on and off, it's not as bad as people make it seem. Some maps yield more xp than others so knowing when and where is more important than mob density.
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>>153498857
>Frost cloud + flesh cannon (+ pole of agony) does even less damage than frost cloud.
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>>153499712
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>>153500339
Go ahead then, make a Wiz3Ele3Necro1Warlock1 if you really think it's a good idea.

I can't wait to see the videos of you soloing r8 mobs.
>>
So Thaum buffs are even more useless with R8? Like 100 extra damage when compared to the 44k a hit spells in the new classes.
>>
>>153495309
Eh, just keep going
You have wizard 3 and you'll just have to chug along until 9
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>>153500861

well, thauma 2 alone = 500 matk/atk. this gets amplified by serpentine (not sure if they will onehand+dagger) and epee stance so...

500 matk on a 100% fc alone is +49k~ damage each cast
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>>153500173
>my ideal would be a game where when it came to fighting enemies, you just went out and found shit to fight. You can go around and find/craft/buy outfits and equipment in game.
BDO was literally this, save for the pvp option, but Daum fucked up and went full superjew.
>>
So, what do you guys think of this build
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1114449f

I dont wanna tank, is peltasta absolutely necessary or can I just go with hoplite c3?
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>>153500861
>So Thaum buffs are even more useless with R8?
They are affected by Glass Mole/Chapparition, so Thaum is still in the same spot.
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>>153500684
>I can't wait to see the videos of you soloing r8 mobs.
What's with focus on soloing so much anyway? All these complaints are "I can't solo anything at r8 shitsux". If you even had a healer partner, anyone can duo any common thing.
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>>153501385
>sword2
Literally why.
>>
>>153500684

nothing survives a fc+canon+dt, but don't call this aoe, kek. with a chronolinker this rolls, but again, any current dps build with chronolinker is enough for r8
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>>153501458
Clearly you haven't done the quests in the first R8 map.
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>>153497528

You really aren't wasting time, I had more fun grinding than questing on this game.
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>>153501674
>Clearly you haven't done unreleased content.
I can't wait to see the videos of you soloing r9 mobs.
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>>153501458
You think people who browse 4chan have friends?
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>>153502374
>unreleased
What are you, an iTOS shitter?
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>>153501385
>sword without pelt
You know.
>>
I don't think I'll ever get a battle bracelet in this life time
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>>153502594
>he thinks his archer or wizard is worth a party slot
Get with the times. We're back to being Tree of Swordsmen again.
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>>153503312
>iToS cucks still think the kToS grind meta includes more than 2 swordsmen
Didn't you idiots learn anything from the iCBT2-early access period?
>>
>>153502594
>>153501385
>>153501510
So, is it a decent build?
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>>153503459
No, it's a shittier version of the PVE-only standard Dragoon build because you missed the most important part of your first 5 circles, Peltasta.
>>
How is FF's group healing? I never see them and if I do they never use the heal thing.
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>>153504127
It can be good, if you link mobs before using BloodBath. However, it all hinges on the monsters being the right race, and people need to remember to stand on the blood puddle. It's not very viable, unless the content isn't hard.

Certain featherfoot builds don't need a healer themselves, though. They can instantly heal to max with no effort.
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From what Ive seen, some r8 mobs havea mdef two times higher than their pdef, sometimes its even higher. Why is this allowed, when most magic spells don't have a high skill damage, and when there's no way to reduce mdef?
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>>153504127
Pretty terrible.
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>>153504408
Are those gloves that allow you to bleed plants out?
>>
New thread when
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>>153505481
Those are rare because >240 dungeon.
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>>153506321
Might be nice to have if you get partied with a druid.
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>>153506585
Definitely, but I don't really want to run the 240 dungeon just for it. My FF2 isn't a partyplayer anyway.
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>>153506798
>>
DEAD
>>
save us
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>>153505083
Same reason aspersion exists for physical damage yet no magical counter exists.
Same reason mages get an easily applied 50% matt buff or was the best at everything sans world boss pre-r8.
If you're not going to complain about the "fairness" of these aspects, why complain now about enemy mdef?
In the end you don't give a shit about fairness at all.
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>>153455519
and yet there are still people that's giving them money
>>
>be slaughtering lolipan in TBL
>get mysteriously disconnected
i thought hook wasn't a thing anymore?
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>>153508642
>aspersion
>but no magical counter
(You)
>>
i hope people were watching that stream. lolipan's build netted him exactly nothing every round that match.
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>>153508947
Aspersion is much better
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>>153508947
It's flat instead of % and not saleable.
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>>153509457
>Flat
This meme again
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>>153509457
>>153509346
>gives more mdef than a +8 max peta
>act like its's bad
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>>153509654
It's bad because I can't buy it.
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>>153509639
>add an x amount
>not flat

>>153509654
Never said it's bad, because it's actually better than a % on full SPR build since magical defense is usually lower than physical.
It's just different.
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