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kToS Patch notes are translated: http://pastebin.com/fu4Tx4S5

https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=610 - Rank 8 Update Preview
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=616 - Transcendence System
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=628 - Latest Patch notes
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=624 - While You Were Away: Updates You Might Have Missed

Previously on /tosg/: >>153395112

>Can I play the game now?
YES YOU CAN (Get it on steam)! Rank 8 Late September™

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd

This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>Frequently Asked Questions:
http://pastebin.com/z0nHSEjH

>Add-ons:
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
http://pastebin.com/PrCkZ21n

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vaivora (바이보라)
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
Clover (Karga)
Database (Cattly)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
FOE (Jinsae)
Ohayou (Beethoven)
cute (Merigolds)
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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early xth for our best players are normies
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/Bullies/ when?
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>post about lolipan being potential hook64 user
>no response
>suddenly new thread in the middle of the day
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>all this time
>swordsman is still the only class worth playing
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>>153510213
You queue'd on a 200 monk and disconnected. Our team lost that match, you were the only one to drop.

Shit like this is exactly the reason people don't accept you.
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>>153510493
shut up faggot
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>>153510213
>threejane doesn't know what the bump limit is
stop accusing people of hacks man, not cool. did you like it when people were accusing you? need solid evidence first before saying anything tbqh
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>>153510897
>>153510213
How are you surprised by this? /tosg/ is 3j's first board, they found it to try and get in futureproof and got kicked because Bot gquit when LP let him in
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>>153508642
Aspersion doesn't help anyone deal more damage to mobs. Quick cast is nice, but it's quite literally the only self buff wizards have, whereas swordies have deeds, épée, bunshin, cassa crista, Cleave/spearlunge/crossfire/Slithering/highkick/ Zwerchhau/Serpentine

Not to mention how swordies have numerous armour piercing skills(umbo thrust, skull swing, Coquille, Sturzhau)
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The thaumaturge def buff when wearing a shield is so underrated.
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>>153510213
>775 replies
>suddenly new thread in the middle of the day
This is the best threejane can come up with? Lolipan is the evil mastermind behind the bump limit? Fuck off back where you came from.
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>>153511093
Maybe if your class had to deal with 3 damage types on top of block and dodge you could also have all those fancy buffs.
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>>153511296
wizCryo3Thaum3
and
wiz3Link1Thaum2FF are the wizard tank builds I hear about sometimes
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>>153511579
Why do I feel like you're bringing PvP arguments when I'm mostly talking about r8?
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>>153510213
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Futureproof is recruiting new members. We're a PvP and GvG focused guild exclusively for /tosg/ users. We've been around since Korean Open Beta, though many of our members have been playing since the Closed Betas. The only requirements are being an active /tosg/ lurker and/or poster, and having PvP goals for your characters.

Whisper Lolipan if you'd like an invite, or have any questions.
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>>153511693
R8 pve*
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>>153510584
> Our team lost that match
lost a 4v5 to threejane, huh? is this the takeaway?
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What cards should a Sorc have?
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>>153512505
Everything except a V card.
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>>153511767
What do you mean with PvP goals?

Only top-tier PvP classes or can I go in with a Paladin3/DP build?
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>>153512505
Ts, Harp. Haven't tried any of the new ones
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>>153512648
I'm quite sure sorcerers have a lot of V cards, other people's of course.
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>aspersion making me take almost no damage from monsters in the dungeon
>priest decides to cast his shitty underleveled aspersion
>two hour invincibility buff replaced by a one minute effect that does literally nothing
Why is this allowed?
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>>153512901
PvP goals is the sugarcoated way of saying "I like to kill people". Doesn't matter if your build is shit or not 100% suited for PvP, or even if you're low level or just started playing.
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>>153513024
It shouldn't override unless it's higher level. You did get lv 17 aspersion from pardoner right?

It's also possible the buff just got bumped off.
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I'm at level 135, what's the fastest way to level up right now?
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>>153513171
130 dungeon and quests
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>>153513171
You're one level away from the reset, just card.
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>>153513171
Do the 130 dungeon then missions 3 times, then keep questing.
Try to use the lest number of cards as possible for that day so the day after you're still in range for the 145 dungeon.
Once your dungeons are reset do the 145 and missions 3 times again.
After this you'll be able to just keep questing up to 190, just be sure to do your missions daily.
The dungeons in between the 145 and the 190 are not worth running.

>>153513418
>carding while being in the 130 range
Don't listen to this retard.
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What would be a good price for a Karacha Dagger recipe? I feel like no one even needs it anymore as crafted ones sell on the AH for 1.3 mil up to 2 mil.
I wanted 1 mil but I doubt it will sell.
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>Zalciai will be fixed soon
What's broken about it?
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When is Templeshooter spawning again?
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>>153514438
No more negative crit res
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>>153514438
It can lower crit resist to negative values.
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>>153513627
>Muh 10 lvl 6 cards will make a huuge difference, gotta save them all

Please.
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>>153514438
Currently, crit resist behaves the same way as elemental resist, in that it can go negative if you have enough SPR. They're fucking over full SPR clerics by making crit resist reduction from Zalciai bottom out at 0. I'm not sure chrono slow is affected though.
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If you open your cubes RIGHT NOW, you won't get Talt! You'll get something amazing!
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>>153514954
Fuck off.
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>>153513171
Card to bees level range
Join ohayou
Receive free exp at bee farm overnight
Get free TP from gvg rewards
Leave guild or stay once you're done
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>>153514773
Read again.
I just said to don't use too many cards so not to outlevel the 145 dungeon, which is one of the best dungeons for exp.
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futurecuck
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>>153511767
>80 spr
why?
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>>153513157
It's usually not overriding. It's faggots throwing all their party-wide "buffs" around regardless of whether or not they're any good. And, oh look who has a ton that they probably didn't invest all their points into...
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>>153515094
He'll be getting far more levels by overcoming the reset asap, then running the dungeon, if he even has entries available
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>>153515350
>He'll be getting far more levels
And the exp will be exactly the same, unless he'll overlevel the mobs in the dungeons in which case he would get less.

Overleveling level 132 mobs in 3 runs right after exp reset is very easy, so he'll basically waste exp.
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such cuck
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>>153515641
fucking destroyed
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>>153515641
losing to an orsha group baka
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>>153515565
Once the reset is reached, even questing will net you levels. Exp might be the same, but the rate at which you get levels.
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>get in GvG
>we've got the north spawn so nobody can see shit
>enemy team appears and my frames drop to single digits
>none of my abilities work
>buffs won't apply
>try to cast something and I just freeze in place
>die from nothing because now effects aren't visible
>respawn, everything is on cooldown
>walk three paces
>die again
How do I do this
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>>153515641
>Comet
>Vianne
>Smn
Literally who?
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>>153514470
Help!
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>>153516108
First name.
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>>153516108
first names
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>>153516108
That's...
>Comet Lolipan
>Vianne Triela
>Smn Dmn
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>>153515903
>Exp might be the same
It's not, you'll be wasting exp by outleveling the dungeon.
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Just wanna say, about the retard in the last thread arguing str vs dex for archers vs high rank 8 pdef monsters, archers have innate p defense reduction, -10% per hit up to -50%. So your str vs dex argument nonsense for archers is inaccurate.
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>>153516258
>>153516262
>>153516303
Oh wow, thanks for the consistency IMC.
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>>153516108
>Barrage ready in 8 seconds
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After 5 days full of love and lots of care, CnL just had its 4th hamster! Had.
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B___!
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L E W D
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>>153516515
_OYS_
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So, I've really been looking into getting in to this, but what's a good class that can be a jack of all trades?

As in, Solo level, dungeons/raid, and PvP all well?

If there's nothing that can do all, a priority towards Raiding and PvP would be nice.
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>>153516328
>For archers
If I remember correctly, the guy only used multishot as an example. Besides, unless you're a Quarrel Shooter, it's not feasible to do that on a group of monsters, even applying on one would demand some time in that scenario.
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Are there any decent sage dps builds?
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>>153516713
He specifically mentioned archer 2 falconer. Which means you're going to be doing a whole lot of oblique spam anyways as filler no matter what 3 ranks you take inbetween.
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>>153517083
>wizard
>dps
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>>153517279
No, reread that guy's post. He just used it as an example because skill base damage and weapon matter in that calc.

>But when mobs get 1k or 1.5k or 2k pdef, multihit skills without high amounts of STR (or even INT for casters) will become useless if the build doesn't have some sort of armor reduction/ignoring ability attached to it.
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>>153517538
>if the build doesn't have some sort of armor reduction/ignoring ability attached to it.
>any missile attack gives innate defense reduction
>meaning all archers have it in any build
Let's not forget crossbows also have an attribute for defense reduction.
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>>153517784
Nigger, do you even reading comprehension? Falconer3 isn't the central point of his post, but how high def interacts with str and dex, and how def reduction will have a more important role now. Why are you complaining about a detail the other guy forgot about when it doesn't invalidate his point?
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>>153517784
Does it actually work? I've never actually seen a debuff be applied from crossbows.
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>>153518226
It's not applied, it just ignores monster's def by a percentage (25%?)
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>>153518226
It does.
It has the same icon of the regen buff you get after drinking an hp potion.
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>>153518226
It shows Armor Penetration or something.
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>>153518173
And I said archers have innate defense reduction. Are you stupid? Can (You) read?
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>>153518173
>Falconer3 isn't the central point of his post
The anon you quote didn't mention Falc3 at all.
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>>153516491
You fed it and gave it to a nice home?
That's lovely :)
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/proposal-battle-bracelets-will-be-obtainable-only-from-bleak-chapparition-cube-we-need-to-stop-this-ridiculousness/324752/31
>The luckshitter saying nothing is wrong with galoks
While I disagree with the cube crap, having a super important drop like that for a low number/low spawnrate/low channel area which is filled with afking fucks, levelers and bots is retarded. Not taking the active BB interested farmers into account.
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IMC will make wolves not shit, right? Right?!
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>>153518806
I do, and what I see is you calling someone a retard because you thought their general statement didn't apply to a specific case.

>>153518998
>>153436730
He only explicitly mentions falconer, but not the circle.
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>>153519491
Of course they will!
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>I came here to eat pizza and shitpost.

And I'm all out of pizza.
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CuteNotLewd is looking for more cute members in preparation for rank 8.
We run Earth Tower, GBL, and Hamsters.
whisper Plasmagica
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>>153520241
How about YOU whisper ME some Plasmagica nudes and I'll think about it.
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Guys! GUYS! I've figured out how to save ToS! No, seriously, shut the fuck up and listen!
>Remove all non-hidden, non-storyline, non-advancement quests or give them rewards that aren't exp cards
>3x-5x the maximum monster density on all maps
>Double the respawn rate of mobs on all maps
>Remove the aggro limit
>Make monsters' aggro range to be about 1.5 screens worth in distance
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>>153520476
That sounds great for sub 200 zones, but I really don't want 20+ 100k+ hp magical mobs aggroing me from 1.5 screens away.
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excuse me what did imc meme by this
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What's with the long queues in the Mercenary post.
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>>153520241
We do GBL? Huh, did that start not long ago?

Man, I really should get with the program and get a PvP worthy character online soon.
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>>153520476
>arrive in 260+ magical funhouse map
>the endless legions of hell have been alerted to your presence
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>>153522045
There no one around your level.
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>>153516690
He thinks there are raids
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Holy shit Jurisdiction, you have more evasion than I ever thought was possible. I missed every single skill I used on you.

Do you have nothing but DEX and full evasion gear?
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>>153519205
You know, he could form a valid point based entirely on "World Boss Mafia builds shouldn't get fucking everything" but holy shit...
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>>153516690
>Raids
WoW is around that corner, lad. You probably missed the door with the massive queue.
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>>153516690
What do you think this is nigger a cohesively designed game made by a bunch of humans?
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>>153519205
They should make it alternatively available from a difficult elite mob in a late game area that bots simply can't farm. Ex: Blue harugal at Steel heights.
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>>153516690
Jack of all trades class will be elememe.
Can solo level easily.
Can do et/other endgame dungeons.
Can do pvp well too due to meteor and sleep
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Whats the best obtainable SR weapon gear currently in iToS
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>>153523761
karacha/bandit + lolopanther pistol
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>>153524115
Is there something else I can transcend that isn't a lolopanther pistol?

Which is better handgun or manamana when transcended?
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>>153523609
Kaboom!
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Does druid3 lycan give bonuses to magic attack too or is it the combination of henge and transform?
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>>153523609
>>153524663
Electrocute is what really kills, trust me on this.
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>>153524663
>koenig sausage
every time
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>>153524663
9K DAMAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! aHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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I've been looking high and low for information on the new squire ability [데들리 콤보].
It's probably an awful ability on squire especially for circle three at R7 but I'd still like to know whether it'd be worth taking.
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>>153526061
I haven't seen a single video of the Templar C2 attack, either.
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>>153520241
You do other things too.
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>>153526032
What do you expect from an autist that just duels people in town and shitposts all day? He doesn't even play the game, he's going to quit next patch because he has no money, no attributes and will never reach 280 and never reach rank 8.
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>>153526485
Here, I fixed it.
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>>153526608
>old man's dirty pole
t-thanks
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>>153526485
>3 way kissing

It's like iCBT2 all over again. In the good sense.
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>>153522535
I can only hit juri reliably when I use feint and my non-shit gloves. We do accuracy tests at every meetup.
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What is the most masochistic class at rank 8 and why is it the Falconeer C3?
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>>153527013
I used to think Rynn was unsufferable but Juri really takes the cake. I had her every round, and I could not touch her even once.

What does she wear?
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>>153519604
>general statement didn't apply to a specific case.
Are you stupid? Every missile attack has defense reduction, which means it affects ALL archers. How is that a specific case? You are more retarded than the original poster was.
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>>153527162
3/4 of the Virtov leather set and max petamyon.
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>>153527162
>she
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>>153527162
>What does she wear?
Lewd.
Juri-san is so legit though, even with non-meta Archer build. Once her pet pounces and locks on you you're pretty much dead. The only way to win against her is to become a disgusting Catagoon + Diev3 and memerush her all the way.
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>>153527524
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>>153527395
There's so much shit in this game that gives evasion, but the only spell that adds accuracy is the 2 hand attribute from Thaum. That and Feint, of course.

They really need to give players some method of stacking accuracy.
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>>153527162
i think you mean "insufferable," anon.
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>>153527620
t. rance
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>>153527671
A thing that is done in some RPGs is giving skills their own accuracy %s but you'd have fewer skills to use on high evasion enemies.
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Fuck you, she'll always be a goddess to me.
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>>153527671
I was surprised shit like steady aim and circling didn't grant acc
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Stop bullying Juri!

Look, look at me, I'm attention whoring with zoomyplus bully me instead

I don't know how this is supposed to work Juri I'm sorry /Tired
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>>153527748
High-evasion.

>>153527891
>>153528080
It's been completely overlooked by the game's design.

>>153528212
Not bullying, I like it. Anything that breaks the meta and succeeds is good.
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>>153528212
literally who?
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What's faster for AOE clear, SR or elememe?
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>>153527947
that fucking shit quest
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>>153528465
>elememe
>killing 300k hp mobs

Kek.
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>>153528803
>SR without lethargy
>killing 300k hp mobs
Lel.
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>>153528925
Yeah thats what the chrono slut is for
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um how come all of my equiped cards are gone? i can't equip any other ones either.

visual bug?
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>>153528212
>bully me
I don't want to start up ToS...
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>>153529059
>chrono slut
with that, a ele is also still 'good'
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>>153529339
Ele has no more place in a good party anymore

Keep dreaming nerd
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>>153529784
with a chrono it does
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>>153529784
>ele sucks
>SR sucks too without a chrono
>well duh get a chrono
>but then ele is also good
>nah
hot opinion mate i dont think we can put together a good argument for that one
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>>153529915
No Ele sucks with chrono too
It also sucks without chrono
SR3 doesn't suck without chrono

But for optimal dps you'll have a chrono to lethargy for oyu anyways
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>>153528465

The thing about SR is that compared to an elememe it has quite a consistent outburst of damage. Considering if both don't have chronos the SR wins hands down, as it's output is so much more consistent, not to mention they also hit flying mobs. Elememes suffer when frost cloud is on CD so that's 20 seconds where they can at best drop a hail rain and electrocute, which they won't be able to do during the next FC CD.

With R8 SR's will definitely be faster AOE clearers than elememes and hell pelthop3goon2's will also have fast AOE clearing potential, probably as fast as an elememe with zero downtime, with spear throw and be infinitely better on flying mobs.
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>>153530105
>SR3 doesn't suck without chrono
Well spoken, friend! It's clear you haven't played the class because you don't actually understand what defines Retreat Shot's tick speed. Pro tip, the ele isn't just for lethargy. SR suffers far, far more from missing chrono than ele does.
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>>153530105
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What's better for a sorc build? Pyro2>linker or wiz3>linker? I intend to go sage at r8.
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Night /tosg/!
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>>153531602
But it's almost morning silly
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>>153531010
It really depends with pyro you can have balls for days. But with wiz3 into sorc you can shit bats out forever with sage and those little cunts can do a nice amount of damage, especially in pvp and with quick cast bats can instagib quite a few people. The thing you'd have to watch for is warlocks with invocation up because they'll slaughter your bats.
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>>153522940
Or they could just put galoks somewhere else too.
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>>153531010
you do not want to go plain pyro linker into sorc for the long term, your damage output will be garbo on both fronts

Go Wiz 3 Linker if you want to plan for the long term Sorc, go Cryo3 if you just want to be a huge dick in PvP once you hit r6

If you want to go pyro you go wiz3pyro3linkersage or something
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>nebulas unleashes some pretty unique, cool attack
>just stun and sleep her to death
Well that was anticlimactic.
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>>153511767
>80 in spr
I am being triggered like no tomorrow right now
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juris build is so fucking funny thjough lol
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>someone actually crashed all 3 bee channels
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So how many of your alts are getting cucked in R8? I've got 2 and a half, half because it could go either way. Hopefully IMC "balances" shit some more, either way it's a pretty shitty feeling having high level and highly invested characters becoming less than subpar in new content. I don't mind rerolling but going through all those things an umpteenth time is mind numbing and a pretty shit experience.
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>TBL time in EU
>20 minutes in queue
>no sight of a match anytime soon
>checking spectate
>only one 2v2 ongoing
What kind of studies IMC did for reaching the conclusion 7am was a good hour for PvP in EU honestly?
GvG in 2 hours and i am expecting near to no battles
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>>153519491
it's actually very OP according to the kimchi blogs
when you go into werewolf mode, you gain all the boss's passives and AOE stuns on all your attacks
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>>153532895
Probably just estryark making the most of his lifetime sub
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>>153533051
I'm pretty sure IMC just got AM and PM mixed up. Does Korea use military time or something?
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>>153533136
Can you link any kimchi blogs please?
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what is the best fencer skill build? i can't seem to find any concrete information because everyone seems to level completely different things on fencer.
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>any other game
>untradable item drops
>loot system in place allows me to let the guy who can actually make use of it take it

>Tree of Savior
>lmao you got an archmage bangle on your swordsman better luck next time retard
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>>153533715
pelt 1 barb 3 fencer 3
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>>153533752
>pelt
>not highlander
playthegame
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>>153533745
>lmao you got an archmage bangle on your swordsman better luck next time retard
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>>153533942
>Players want to work together to get their friends and guildmates items? Specifically items that a certain class NEEDS?
>How about we just make it all untradable instead but keep the daily limits and low percentages
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>>153533813
>highlander
top kek

But at least you're not a hop 2 that will get cucked out of epee stance every time they weapon swap
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>>153533942
>>153534329
>>153533745
even "worse game ever - Diablo 3" does that shit better
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I've been killing Tipios for 3 hours and no Steel Falchion yet, not even from a fucking glowing one.
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>>153535065
Do your quests
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>>153535112
Already did them retard.
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>>153535112
I'm trying. The objective is on the other side.
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>>153535065
kill some mobs
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Manipulated rhythm

Seduction lies within
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>>153525287
Lycan does not give anything other than hp and physical attack. henge doubles your magic attack however
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Unbuffed. This damage isn't bad.
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>>153535390
It did 3-4x more dmg in beta.
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>>153535112
>>153535169
>>153535065
>>153535182
There was a monk to escort, but she didn't spawn for some reason. Abandoning and retaking the quest spawned her.
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>Golden Red Gribs with DPE doesn't drop the boots recipe
Is that DPK or simply not in the jackpot droplist?
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>play tbl
>see necro with 52k hp

>mfw as physical attacker i need to play evasion/accuracy minigame on top of everything else and clerics/mages can do whatever the fuck they want


im about to stop playing
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>>153535526
Why would they nerf it so hard? It's the only attack skill rogues actually have.
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>>153534835
I have one if you're on Klai
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>>153535789
They are a full int Thaumaturge-Necro that Transposed to CON.
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>>153535386
So is there any reason why a druid3 shouldn't just go full con or dex and supplement their weaker matk by using henge?
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>>153535869
no not really, Int is a pretty shit stat desu
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>>153535837
Finally got it, but thanks.

At least I got like 30 Resinates
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>>153535789
you forgot block and block penetration.
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>>153535821
Keep in mind IMC doesn't actually play their own game. They probably saw a backstab webm from someone fully attributed with a karacha set, decided it was overpowered and nerfed it.
Of course now we have R8 coming out with 90k base damage skills.
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>>153535864
what difference does it make what they did to get that much HP they are still running around with 52k
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>>153535869
as explained with the previous threads.

Lycanthrophy is a skill specifically to compensate a Druid's lack of physical attack, you gain 5k/5.6k physical attack or double that with henge during lycanthrophy, this however leaves you no dex for accuracy leaving you missing most of your attacks as you invested in full INT

the dilemma lies in the fact that IF you decide to go the physical cleric route which is cleric2>bokor2>monk>druid3, you would hit all your physical attacks which I would say deals heavy damage, but youd be losing on magic attack instead as you would have little to no int, now henge does double your magic attack but at this point youd only have 180-200 magic attack from weapons, that would be 400 magic attack with henge.

tldr, a dexwolf is the stronger wolf, an int durid is the stronger druid
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>>153536209
Are you retarded?

I literally just told you he spent class circles and every stat point he had to achieve that.

When people make significant investments they receive significant returns. This is how it's supposed to be. You latched onto the one return he put his entire build together about and are crying about it.

If you want to quit, fucking quit, but don't up shit excuses for it like "he has one thing going for his build and it's really good." Just go.
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>>153536053
im fucking sick of it

enemy blocks your shit? oh invest in STR
but now you cant hit DEX builds

build DEX cant hit through block better invest in blockpen gear

oh wait you dont have enough CON now you get assmangled by every magic user

(by the way dont kill yourself off sevenfold)

dont have any recovery/invulnerability or evasion? get 100-0 by broadhead arrow

dont have any cc negation? get fucking assmangled by cryomancer kino 99 foot icewall psychic pressure magnetic force from 1000 meters away fucked in the ass by frost tree

let me just roll a cleric and sit behind my fucking 5 owls while i do the hokey pokey around my ausrine so i can run around and do whatever the fuck i want until i get bullshitted by another bullshit mechanic
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>my monk deals 900/600 bleeding to enemies and i only have 380 physical attack and only level 132
>Lycanthrophy adds 5k or 10k physical attack

are you ready lads
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>>153536246
>physical cleric
>bokor
Why would anyone go Bokor, not even physical clerics.
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>>153536502
wow dude that is some real fucking hopeful thinking dude incredible

i am sure you have some real next level theorycrafting for your own build that will really skyrocket you to the highest echelon of the pvp ladder

im sure if you put in an enormous amount of effort you too can pull off an incredible feat of prowess in the fun and balanced and well kept game of tree of savior
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>>153536695
Zombie train
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>>153536721
>being this assblasted your build sucks and you came across one person whose build doesnt
nice

if you spent half as much time playing the game as you do bitching about it youd be stronger than him
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>>153527671
Make Concentrate give accuracy equal to the additional damage added to Swordsmen
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>>153536695
>15 sec invulnerability
>more movement speed
>0 downtime zombie train that deals physical damage and knocks everyone down permanently, coupled with Lycan's knockdown skills you can literally run everyone with zombie train and not have them move an inch

and the fact that everything is still bugged/intended with Lycan that most cleric ranks' buffs and effects dont work with it
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I'm still not sure if I should go with Monk or Plague Doctor for Inquisitor.

Monk offers a lot of PvE damage but Plague Doctor is decent for parties and PvP.
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>>153536840
Monk. You need the strike damage debuff.
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Is full dex good on fencer, or do I need to worry about con and str too?
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>>153536763
its not about being stronger or better or faster

its about the balance and how some things are outright stupid like a dps class tree having 52k hp when some tanks have 30k-40k and a support tree doing dps level damage while having invulnerability and massive recovery
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>>153536890
>full dex
>on fencer

Fencer needs full STR.
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>>153536880
It's a Cleric2/Dievs/Paladin3 build, I want monk more for the DP damage while the skills are on CD, but does it synergize in other ways too?
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Fuck I just want to see some proper vids of both magic and phys lycans in action in both pve and pvp.
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>>153536987
t. misinfo
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>>153537025
https://tos.neet.tv/skills/40702

https://tos-kr.neet.tv/skills/41407

Figure it out.
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>https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/eu-pvp-and-gvg-players-ready-to-quit-the-game/324599
>https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/imc-the-new-gvg-time-restriction-is-killing-us/324999
Tell me again ToS is PvP oriented please
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>>153537178
Is it even possible to land DP in PvP?
Inquisitor looks pretty good for PvP, so something that works there could be nice.
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>>153537327
If you're worried about landing things in PVP your mindset on Plague Doctor, keeper of the hardest skill in the game to land, is off too.
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Did IMC add that "drop cards on death" thing or was that just a joke?
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>>153537501
I liked PD because of bloodletting and the mask, I didn't think the Spray was hard to land.
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>>153537505
Hehehehe
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>>153537573
I unironically have an easier time landing Snipe, with weaponswapping lag, then Incineration.
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>>153536767
>equal to the additional damage
That'd be pretty strong, I like it
>>153536890
If you never played a fencer before, just grab dex and some con
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So would a C2,Diev,pal,monk,druid3 wolf work? Heavy dex some con, I feel like carve attack would rip things to shreds with fucking 10,000 attack and double punch just to spam while carves on cool down
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>>153537785
I don't think I'll be getting incineration anyway, if I go PD is going to be because of the utility of bloodletting and Regeneration Aura boosted Healing Factor.

I guess I'll decide at Rank 7, it's kinda shitty getting Monk so late but at that point I'll know if I want to focus on PvE or making myself more useful for PvP.
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>>153537318

Meanwhile on SEA, nobody's complaining
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>>153530207
Movement speed increase (like haste) doesn't increase retreat shot tick speed or damage, if that's what you're implying.
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>>153537982
>not a single 280
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>>153537858
>dievwolf
>dex

no.

You dont want to miss out on Super owls, if youre going Diev, stay INT, these super owls were one of the more batshit crazy ive ever seen in this game
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>>153538048
>tfw NAfags have 280s but always lose
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>>153538267
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>>153536937
>its about the balance
hehehehe

i dont have my IMC folder, someone please post smiling-kim-in-green-pullover
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>>153537858
>diev
>druid 3
>dex

this would be like a monk who did not invest in any heals, or have heals at all, if youre going wolf path, you can only go full retard, you cant half ass it as an int dievdruid is pretty much more useful than any lycan there is
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>>153538227
You linked a private video.

The animation of retreat shot speeds up, but the damage output doesn't.

If you try a full duration of retreat shot (no haste), then a full duration of retreat shot (with haste) on a mob, there's no difference of DPS between them at the end of the retreat shot.
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>>153536937
You're retarded, a transposed Necro isn't a dps class. It's a summoner class hence why it's a yellow colored class emblem.
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>>153538267
Ohayou is 2-0
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does anyone know exactly how the Sages Portal skill works cause all I've found are translations and the preview video.

Is it just like the RO Cleric Portal?
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INTENSE PVP FIGHTS
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>>153538536
you can save 3 locations. (3 more with fucking expensive attribute)
cant save in open world dungeons, like storage.
select one, a portal opens, you and party members click that portal.
30min cooldown each location, individually. goes down to 25min with skill lvls.
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>>153538685
Wow, that is pretty fucking shit.
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>>153538767
yep,
maybe its 'something' for WB mafia
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>21X
>no alemeth party going on
>can't do quests or will leave behind my group
What the fuck is there to do here? Just spam dungeon reset vouchers on 200 rushes + sialalelulelo missions or what?
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>>153538685
>30min cooldown each location
so 30 min CD after you open the portal to reuse it later or?

Also can you instantly record a location and open it later, like of like a bootleg way to recall people? Cause the description siad something about waiting hours for it to work
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>>153538685
The only thing that'll be useful as is a taxi service. I can see a bunch of non English speaking cunts literally shouting taxi service all day and charging talt to ferry a lvl 20 to some map they can get grinded on.
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>>153538832
>can't grind solo
You brought this to yourself.
How about making your own party and advertise in shout? I'm sure people are also waiting just like you.
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>>153537318

>when it happened to SEA, we just ask to change time...but when it happen to EU, omg time to quit TOS lolololol
>whites have higher standard, non-whites just stay and suffer for some reason. That's why SEA server is half population LOL

Confusedanimegirl.jpeg
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>>153538841
30min CD when opening a portal.
a portal is open for 10-20sec or so

not sure if you can delete one while its on CD. i can test that later.

> the description siad something about waiting hours for it to work
sounds like BS
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holy shit these lag spikes
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What skills should I take from fletcher C1?
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>>153538848
>taxi service
yeah, that or WB mafia

>>153538978
15sec duration

more skill lvls only give 1min less cooldown ea.
a one-point-'wonder'
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>>153539289
thanks senpai are you Mia?
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>Current Waiting Queue: 17
>Current Waiting Queue: 18
>Current Waiting Queue: 19
>Current Waiting Queue: 20
>Current Waiting Queue: 21
>Current Waiting Queue: 17
FUCK
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>>153538832
You can do kill counts and don't underestimate the power of resets and siaulaisliaualiau. You can get a lot of experience by doing those with an exp tome and you should be able to run through at least 5, 6 if you're good/get a good party, within the hour's time the tome is up
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>>153539398
Nyes
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>first day of EU GvG with new timeslot
>a guild who never did GBL before made up their way to Top with 3 matches(10v1-10v2-10v2)
>none of the guild who fought them queued again after first match
Amazing PvP indeed
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How can 2 people be so annoying?
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>>153540418
MIAAAAAAAA
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>>153540486
>spamming shit meme
they should join [real tosg guild name here] and also join the general
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>>153540486
sounds like they macro'd their skills to say things
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>>153540486
urgh those memes are so outdated someone needs to give them the 411 on this years memes on what's hot and what's not
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>>153540629
I thought so too, but they only did that in the pre phase and during the torch guarding. I think they're just chat macros.
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>>153513627
>The dungeons in between the 145 and the 190 are not worth running.

Misinfo

160 dungeon gives good xp after it was readjusted. 1.5 levels per run only a few queues though because misinfo agents like this guy.
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>Swordman at rank7 are shit
Sure
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>>153540526
Hi anon
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What is the Ghast of ToS?
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>>153541303
(You)
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>>153541303
What is a Ghast?
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So henge for druid3 is the matk booster. And it works with normal transforms, is that why we see those ktos Druids transforming into insect type monsters because the 40% def/mdef is more worthwhile than lycan form as well as not sapping sp?
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>>153541303
Oh god don't remind me of that thing. I haven't come across anything with that level of pure retardation yet and I hope I never do.
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What is the Goblin Gambler of ToS?
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>>153541752
(You)
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>>153541303
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>>153541752
What is a Goblin Gambler?
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>>153539197
pls help

All I'm finding on google are outdated opinions from when fletcher was poop.
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>>153541752
Oh god don't remind me of that thing. I haven't come across anything with that level of pure retardation yet and I hope I never do.
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>>153541454
A creature that spawns in a (used to be)hard dungeon in Mabinogi.

It's immune to magic, mostly immune to melee, can't be knocked back or down(in a game about knockback and stunning, and also the primary way in which archers can keep enemies away from them, although it's not immune to ranged attacks), and has a ton of defense, hp, and damage on top of all that. It basically randomly spawns in enemy groups to ruin your day.

Now that I think about it, if there's something like it in ToS, an Oracle probably would be the one to spawn it.

But in ToS terms, an enemy that says "Fuck the battle system and you in particular."
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>>153541752
Is that a Templeshooter?
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>>153541539
some people might just not be getting awoo since they wanted to max sterea troph and carnivory I guess
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>>153541752
>tfw no mmo will come as close to how much fun FFXI was for you

at least ToS's amount of classes and variety keeps my autism interested.
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>>153542067
But even with maxed carniv and stera you can max lycan and have one in every other skill with 10 points to spare
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>>153542071
I hope they eventually add more skills to classes so we can see more varied builds.
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>>153541050
>Kancolle
>small c
Fucking secondaries, I swear.
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>>153542482
Why would any one be a secondary fan of a shit series?
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This is a goddess
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>>153542679
>That is the master of all fire
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>>153542679

Vakarine is the best goddess, she's the only one who's not afraid of doing the dirty work, she's a warrior, mother, sister, and daughter of the humans at the same time, She also cares for the beasts! She also gave a chance to the demons! Vakarine didn't run when the shit hit the fan, she stood her ground and sent her own "Valkyries" to fight the crisis. She made some mistakes and was not afraid to admit it and dive into the problem, unlike the other shit goddess.

You really think that the other goddess didn't had any kind kupules? I'm must sure they had thousands of years to build a host but nah, they were too proud of their selfs to care about the future, to really care about humanity. Only Vakarine and Laima really cares for your souls.
No wonder that she has a statue every 3-4 maps and you are allowed to teleport, if she wasn't that good, we would be fucked by now, since other goddess can teleport you too (see klaipeda goddess statue).

How you can care about Gabija? She's the fucking fire goddess, with the power of the sun herself and what she did? She stayed in the top of the mage tower doing the job that a HUMAN could do (even if that human was THE mage) and sent a semenbird to guide you. How she couldn't tackle Herga~ on her own? FUCK Gabija.
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>Wanna grind dungeons
>Server is dying

>>153543056
>with the power of the sun herself
Saule is the one with the power of the sun. No one cares about her though. It's actually surprising. Normally people would be all TIDDIES! MILF! THICC! but no one even remembers Saule exists.
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>>153543056
whateva, my goddessfu is cute
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>>153542645
Tertiaries pls go and stay go.
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>>153543156
>goddess of the sun
>tats
>only goddess that stood with laima when she came forward with her doom prophecies
>everyone in on gabija, jurate, austeja etc

why does tosg have such shit taste
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>>153543520
How can anyone like goddess Jarate?
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>>153543056
i bet you also wrote the raping koenig post with 1 2 3 fifteen times slapping of her medium sized udders
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>>153543726
likely just hipsters
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>>153541050
>Outlaw and dead server
Bet you have no hook64 fags or Crimson like guilds and even a Corsair can get a cube there.
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Just saw katzenberg speak in terrorist speak about a 4 am prayer thing. Wtf you guys do know that you're coddling terrorists right?
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>>153544891
/pol/ out immediately
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what level can i grind dp2 again? can i start at 136?
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>>153544780
> Crimson like guilds
There was
It imploded when the Templar and his inner circle got banned.
Now they are reforming under the name Maid Cafè but some of the original members went into another guilds
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>>153544984
nope
need 141 to enter it. and a bit more to get decent exp.
dont have to tho
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Post my chances of getting a battle bracelet from galoks tday
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>>153545056
100%
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>>153545056
Go, anon! Don't let your dreams be dreams!
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>>153545029
>Maid Cafè
Fucking weeb name
10/10 would stay the fuck away
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>>153544891

>he doesn't wake up at 4AM to do his morning prayers

Absolutely kafir
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>>153544891
You're making me want to transfer to Telsiai now.
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>Current Waiting Queue: 3
>Current Waiting Queue: 4
>Current Waiting Queue: 5
>Current Waiting Queue: 6
>Current Waiting Queue: 1

Fuck you, too.
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>>153526485
>>153526608
Kanker
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>>153535776
For only doubles the loot you get from that monster, if it wasn't going to drop anything to begin with, tough luck.
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>>153545329
t-thanks monk-chan
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>>153545582
>You found a party
>Currently Waiting in queue: 7
...
...
...
>Searching for a party
>Currently Waiting in queue: 2

Fuck you, kim. Fuck you.
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>>153545163
>>153545329

I killed 6 galoks and reported 6 bots. what is the battle bracelet dpk number?
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>>153545582
>>153539418
stop whinning like a little bitch, queues works with player's levels and likes nobody likes you
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>>153546192
>>153546320
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>>153546320
>over 100 likes
a-are you sure...
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>>153546571
your like a babby
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>>153546571

NO ONE

THEY ARE LIKES OF PITY

YOUR END WILL COME AND YOU WILL BE COLD AND ALONE
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>Playing the game just to be with someone
>This someone quits because IMC is fucking incompetent
>Lose contact because we didn't exchanged any other way to talk
>Doesn't want to play anymore
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>>153547586
ha ha loser
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come que 115
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What bracelet should I aim for on my sw3catagoon memer?

Glad band or sissel?

Ain't gonna bother with phada (for now) because >45 dawn maiden fragments and I already have a pair of glass bracelets.
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>no ktos patch
Fug, they mentioned updates were biweekly some time ago. I just wanted to see what else they're going to change in the game.
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>>153547586
>didn't exchanged any other way to talk
Well you couldn't of known them that well then if you never even spoke to them outside of the game.
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>>153547586
This is what you get for being a little faggot. See if someone else can contact that person
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Reminder that R10 archer will be cossack!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZdmxIzXjsI
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I realize Durian is probably just a PR link but if they genuinely don't know about the GvG rankings being fucked up I don't know what I'm going to do.
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>>153547586
Who's your crush? Please be me.
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>>153548326
You still play though, silly.
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>>153547586
>already talk with my special person outside of the game constantly

Haha, loser!

I'm sorry anon.
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>>153548326
please stop playing
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>>153548131
at least he knows about Bots
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>>153548469
I always knew IMC was working with gold sellers.
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>>153547675
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>>153549178
murbish so cute
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>>153549270
>>153549178
>not stabbing anyone
nah, cant be
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dad
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>>153549934
Son? Why do you have your sister's shoes on your head? What the hell is wrong with you?
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>>153549934
Why does Maggi have absolutely no fashion sense?
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>>153549934
>MAGGI-approved headgear
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>>153549969
>>
I STILL CAN'T BELIEVE THAT THEY NERFED SKYLINER
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>>153550515
>one skill was singlehandedly making an entire archetype playable
yeah man can't believe it
in before quick cast fuck you support wizards are a thing support swords are not
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>>153550515
I still can't believe they gave such a cool name to a shitty skill in a shitty class.

>>153550609
Pelt squires
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>>153550657
>pelt squires
Still took highlander2.
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>>153550657

WHAT

SKYLINER IS AMAZING, TWO BEAUTIFUL SLASHES, COOL ANIMATION, FAST, DEMANDS BLOOD, BADASS POSE AND HIGHLANDER IS ALSO GREAT, SICK C3 COSTUME

Do you know what is a good example of cool name being used to a shit class? Rodelero's Shooting Star.
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>>153550609
>support swords are not
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
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>>153547662
help
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>>153549172
>>153547675

Lads come on
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>>153549969
Fuck.. I didn't even notice that.
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>>153549969
Bad parenting?
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fug
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>>153552014
>lv100
>sub 4k hp
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>>153552340
i generally dont start investing in con till 120ish
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what swordie is even viable except dragoon2 to begin with
I want that swimsuit and I want it on a non-useless class.
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>>153552340
Archers. Will they ever learn?
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>>153552527
Make a templar. Guilds will always need new leaders or subleaders when someone gets tired. Ultimate future proof.
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>>153552602
I trust my capy, fuck that.
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>>153552527
Fencer for PvE, catalancer for PvP.
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>>153547662
4/5 now
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>>153552524
why are you making it hard for youself? if youre investing CON at all atleast invest it when you were starting 50 CON for Level 50 is quite fast and you could put the rest from 50-280 to STR/DEX and have a consistent dps output throughout your gameplay
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>>153552827
>hard

nigga this aint my first alt, you let me worry about that

>>153552527
fencer for pve dps, squire for gvg/basecamp support, cata>lancer for pvp chargeleading
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>Get stuck with a Fencer in the Merc mission
>Starts talking shit out strong he is
>Doesn't even get top dps and challenges me to a duel during torch defense
>I shoot one Broadhead arrow at him and plop down my barrel
>He dies seconds later and doesnt say another word throughout the rest of the mission
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@153553348
>Subhuman pot calls subhuman a subhuman kettle
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>>153553387
Welcome to 4chan.
now get the fuck out
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>>153538978
almost forgot it. but testing now.

the delete location button is not there when a location is on cooldown.
cant tele, delete, add again, repeat

and i login into some korean shop cult or so. wth
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>be in a /tosg/ guild
>half the guild offline whenever there's events/GBL
>a number or those offline haven't been on in a while
>mostly new recruits who joined for a week or two then got bored of the game and quit
>we did help them with quests, provided them with guildy help, but the game is not for them
>it's the same shit if we kick them lit and get more new recruits
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>>153554021
You know know 4chan only runs on hype and gets bored of things really quickly.
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How the FUCK do I remove those rage-inducing loading screens?
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>>153555508
Go into the loading screens folder and replace them. I don't know if deleting them will make the game crash, but I don't trust IMC to just load what's there instead of requiring exactly that number of screens.
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>was away for 12 hours
>thread barely moves
jesus christ
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>>153556323
No that you mention it, there's very little shitposting in this thread.
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>>153556405
EU is either dead or busy playing the game
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>>153556405
dvine got banned and EU are mass-quitting.
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>>153556729
source/why?
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>>153557024
Autistic and rude behavior at bees that got him reported by a normalfag on forums.

EU tbl/gbl times are shit
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>>153557154
>EU tbl/gbl times are shit

Why would someone care about minigames tho
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>>153556323
Game is dead.

There's no content in pve, you really don't even need max level, just play a bit with the r7 class and you have seen everything the game offers so the smartest thing to do is either reroll to try out a new build or quit.
ET is only really for a few builds which you probably don't even want to play as to begin with and you can only get gear for said build.
Trans system? Why even bother, there's no content. Also it's broken (as everything is at r6+) and should be 10% increase per level at best.
PvP? It's a joke in this game, even more now that gear is taken in account.

R8 doesn't save anything, more class become shit because of the retarded hp spikes from mob and the few good r8 classes base damage, pvp is still hot garbage.
This game need a complete overhaul.
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>>153557504
>This game need a complete overhaul.
To be more like FF, WoW, or Runescape? Which is it?
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>>153557273

How I'm supposed to get my abrasives, son
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>>153557608
To be more like an actual game maybe?

ToS is broken because nothing makes sense besides cute graphics and good BGM. You can barely call it a game.
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>>153557610
Just go farm bees and use their stingers and fur for your gems.
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>>153557709
>You can barely call it a game.
Calm down with your exaggerations, dude.
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>>153557717

takes too much time and afking is scum tier activity. one hour of mini games per day and I can get 30k exp gems in two weeks while having some fun. If I'm interested enough, I can play two characters for that 50/daily and two lv 7 gems in less than a month maybe
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Just a reminder that cute is recruiting on Klaid. We're a social, easygoing, drama-free guild with no level/time requirements, talt quotas, and/or mandatory event participation. All we ask is that you help contribute to keeping the guild drama free. Being cute is also recommended! If you're looking for a comfy place to chat, make friends, and have a group of friends to call on for help, just send a message to Merigolds or Majiene for an invite!
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>>153557808
Right, anything can be called a game. As long as you can control a cute character and type things in the chat, it's a game. Nothing else matters.
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""""""drama free""""""" guilds are always full of drama. just like >girls who say they "hate drama".
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Been noticing a lot of people asking about Orsha lately, so let me just remind everyone that Kotatsu always has slots if you're looking for a comfy bunch to lay down roots with.

Contact/friendrequest Colyo for an invite or with any inquiries.
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>>153557504
>There's no content in PvE

There is content in PvE though, you can do world bosses, ET, kill shit for money/items/gear, and do instances. It's just not content you can solo. The late game elite mobs are clearly trying to push players toward party play as well, but players don't want to put in any effort to partying so everyone just rolls classes that can solo kill mobs.

What IMC needs to do is make the elite mobs worth enough silver to where players will want to group up to farm them, right now there is zero incentive to do anything except roll a QS3 alt character to farm the 130//240 dung and feed your main money.
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>>153558019
not true
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>>153557608
If it was as polished and balanced as FF, its instances were as good as WoW's and the quests as good as Runescape's, it would be a great game.
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>>153558060
>but players don't want to put in any effort to partying
But you can't party or do any kind of party content (efficient grind, uphill defense) if you don't have the right overpowered build.
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Something something Telsiai

Something something recruiting

Something something Katzenberg
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>>153558181
>quests were as good as runescapes

mien neiger
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>>153558181

with open pvp as good as Tibia
Guild Siege as great as RO
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>>153558207
As long as you have 5 people in balanced roles at 280 it doesn't even matter, mobs cave to 5 man groups easily. Uphill is difficult without specialized builds and world bossing needs at least one chrono and one player on a Fletcher, but the nature of gear scaling in this game makes it so you can run most builds and do fine as long as you aren't full on rainbow retard.

I would love to do end game content even with a non specialized party but frankly can't because /tosg/ only wants to ERP on orsha roof, fight club in fedi, and epeen over 2v2 matches and the people doing that content outside /tosg/ are almost entirely annoying autists.
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>>153558454

How about, um, a game as customizable as Maple Story?
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What level do you guys recommend I should use lvl4 exp cards? lvl5s? and up?
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>>153558181
>>153558454
>>153558596
That means none will happen. Kim gives vibes of a hipster who throws away any ideas that were done before and wants to be different for the sake of being seen as a snowflake.
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>>153535789
>Play TBL
>Get Ilak on other team
>She has 86K HP
>All your damage tickles her
>You die a slow painful death by HEEHEE
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>>153558921
when you get them.

its good to stay without 10 lvls of the map you quest in tho
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>>153557610
>he doesn't know about uphill level 2 gem abrasives
>he doesn't know about kadumel advanced gem abrasives
>he doesn't know about evac level 1-3 gem abrasives
I have 3 level 8 gems already, gem leveling is a joke until you reach level 7
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>>153558512
I would do pve content with you, anon. Too bad I don't have much time to play anymore and my highest level character is 261, still
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>>153545464
Only british do that and this SEA not Britain
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>>153559452
I;m like 40 lvls above the map I;m still covering
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>>153558512

Join CuteNotLewd, those cute girls(male) run all the end game content (ET, uphill, WB hunting, saalus. etc) daily.
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>>153559739
What are you even doing?
Just ignore the pointless side quests unless its something that gives useful items (e.g. rokas/zachariel/stat point quests).
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>>153559739
You use them as fast as possible and as soon as you reach the next tier of cards you ignore all quests at your current level and move on to the quests that give the next card tier up.

Saving cards is old advice and not applicable anymore at all.
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>>153559964
Sorry anon, in some days I only have time for dungeons and missions so.. I'll trying to catch up though.
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>>153559964
>>153560109
OK, noted.
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>>153509789
Lewd doujinshi of this when?
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There was a thread on tos forums with all R8 builds that I can't find out anymore. Anyone has it?
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>>153541001
nobody does this dungeon in SEA. damnitall
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>>153560535
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/r8-cleric-skills-translation/321982
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>>153557273
Why would someone would care about 50% of the endgame being totally negated to you?
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>>153556729
I wouldn't say we are mass quitting but there has been another population decline recently
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>wow lets make a new mounted class, a natural progression for pvp catas dragoon c1 that has ways of dealing with magic circles sh-
>proceeds to shove a huge 40k damage teamwipe (r7 suicide) dethrone crit inside everyone's ass at dragoon c2

sure, people will play lancer
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We are not dying right?
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>>153562078
>6.7k players
rip in peace
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>>153562078
Everything is fine, anon. Kim is going to save the game again.
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>>153562128
5.5k in SEA
rest between NA/SA/EU
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GVG / PVP RANKINGS FIX WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN
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>>153561931
It's like you don't know IMC. They already nerfed serpentine, it's quite possible that the next thing they'll change is Dethrone.
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>Fletcher 3
>Doesn't MA
>Hey why aren't you MAing?
>No arrows xD
>For 2 missions in a row
>Gets 5th and beat out by clerics
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>>153562505
You don't understand, man. It's not that he doesn't have arrows, but that he doesn't believe in them altogether.
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>>153562505
Is the Fletcher name Sidd?
I still remember his "No Arrows xD" during both a Rexipher and Helga
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>>153562505
>using any silver at all in missions
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>archer bots

okay what the actual fuck

this game has around maybe 9000 players left, what collossal faggots actually think that designing new bots for this game is worth their time? why are chinese gold farmers even still here? there cant be a lucrative enough market left to justify the effort, especially when account hacking as a stock replenishment method is a near non-issue on a steam game.

so why?
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>>153562274
Free TP mah nigg
what's not to like?

Oh don't tell me you're in a non top 3 guild
Everyone knows you should join Ohayou
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>>153563016
All mmos are ded or dying anon, tree of savior is one of the few somewhat alive games that are easy to make botting programs for (with the other being maplestory).

You may think tree of savior isn't worth the effort but to botters tree of savior is one of the few games worth the effort.
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>>153563197
Colyo here. We're at 1012, but it isn't appearing on the rankings. I want them to fix it so we get our fuckin' TP.
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>>153563423
>bad apple beat crimson
I thought crimson was the best in amerifat servers due to their excessive rmt?
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How does it have 50 EXP?
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>>153563651
Unequip exp penalty.
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>>153563512
Bad apple has good players and understands that you have to be good at PvE to get gear to do PvP just like Crimson does.
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>>153563651
He feeded it a non-level1 card.
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>>153563698
Can cards delevel?
>>
Anybody kToS friends have videos or translated info on the squire ability deadly combo? Worth any points?
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>>153563963
When you unequip them they lose some exp. Go look it up in the official site news post on monster cards.
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>>153564052

but you can do this without penalty by paying 5 tp, right?
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>>153564036
good damage, in groups it doesn't change the fact you're a pelt slave
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>>153564159
I dont actually know. I generally wait till I've got my cards to 10 before slotting them in, and have never tried.
>>
2 archer 3 ranger 2SR
Is this right?
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>>153564306
yep, you can go something instead of archer 2 if you really want to but you should defs have ranger 3 for sr3
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>>153564537
>you can go something instead of archer 2
>missing +25% critrate
Retard.
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>>153564306
yeah
pretty much the only SR3 build
>>
What's the most generic QS 3 build for making money on dungeons? QS 3>Archer 2>Falcon>Cannon, or is it something else? I've heard SR 2 sometimes but apparently the new Limacon at r8 conflicts with running shot.
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>>153564841
if you're just using it to brainded farm 130 nonstop whilst watching tv shows then its a1>qs3>a2>sr2
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>>153565089
>>
I wish Eles had a skill like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkySKfwj54A
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>>153563512
Ranking bug cucked Crimson while BA's ranking updated correctly.

Like 6-7 matches did not record correctly for Crimson.
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>>153565721
TOO BAD THEY ARE DEAD

POWER CREEPED

BAZINGAD

SMACKLEDORFED
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>>153565991
32 hits in a large AoE with +50% modifier is not dead just because you have to use other skills too anon.
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>>153563197
>Ohayou #2
feelsgoodfam
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>>153566079
>Elememe
>other skills
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>>153566348
That why they get Warlock2?

Going 3 circles for Frost Cloud is 100% worth in my book.
WL2 will complement everything else that elememe doesn't have.
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>Monk in mission
>doesn't res
>"Monk DPS"
>gets triggered and uses hook to crash me

Just Orsha Monk 3 things
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>>153566716
Can players use hook to crash individual players or do you mean he crashed the instances? I was under the impression you could break channels with it but that has big ramifications for world bossing if you can target a player.
>>
Hi, new here, I made a new archer and I wonder if I should focus on single or AoE damage? Also go full dex or dex/con/str?
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>>153566525
>Warlock
>other skills
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>>153567047
You could make a a fletcher build (single-target) that transitions into Mergen build (AoE) to have the best of both worlds. I'm not sure about the mix, but for PvE, the build is usually a lot of STR, with some DEX, and just a little bit of CON to help you survive.
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>15 minutes in queue
>23 people also queuing
>Still cant get into a mission
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>>153567252
>Mastema new DoT attribute
>Pole of agony
>Improved spirits
>Reduced CD of theurge via drain

"B-but it doesn't count cuz I can't solo grind for half a full party's xp/hour with one spell"
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>>153567432
HOL UP

WAT DEY DO TO MASTEMA
IS IT NOT SKIPPABLE ANYMORE
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>>153567289
So which one should I take as first advancement?
Archer2 or Ranger?
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>>153564626
>implying it makes a difference against 500+ critres players
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>>153567585
Some of the builds I see for Fletcher go Ranger 3, but with the class tweaks I'm not sure if it's still the same build
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Post cute tos couples
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>>153567404
The number is useless. It literally means there's 23 others queuing, regardless of level.
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>>153567582
New attribute that does 12 hits over 5 seconds and reduces Str+Int+Dex of targets in AoE by 50%. Most of the power of warlock 2 is in improvements for old skills, particularly their use of spirits, rather than giving them "Dark Cloud" or something stupid like that.
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>>153567432
>Mastema attribute
>16 hits
>60% scaling
It's shit.
>Pole of Agony
A pixel tier aoe locked behind 120 seconds
>Improved Spirits
Invocation doesn't have a % attribute, plus maxing the red spirit attribute is 30 fucking millions.
>Reduced CD of theurge via drain
You have to absorb, and basically waste, DT first you retard.
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>>153567596
>pvp argument
>on a SR build
What are you even doing?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY09SbVFsR8

So I just need a Circle Rod with 7 transcend, lvl 100 Flesh Cannon att to make necro3 not suck.

Seems fair I guess.
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How much would a lvl 10 Glass Mole card sell for?
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>>153567798
Does the archer2 extra attack speed is actually usefull or is it just a meme?
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Why is Featherfoot such a lewd class?
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come que 115
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>>153567851
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>>153568404
The reason to go archer 2 is the +25% crit rate through swift step attribute. It's a futureproof buff.

Currently, you have two meta choices:

Single Target - A2 R1 Sc1 Fletcher 3
This build can branch off into Hackapell for more move speed and single target burst, or some light yet much needed AoE via Mergen at rank 8.

AoE - A2 R3 SR2
This build RELIES on a chronomancer partymate always holding your hand to be able to do competitive damage. The AoE capabilities with support sluts are amazing and can only get better at rank 8 with SR3.
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>>153567851
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>>153566525
>Going 3 circles for any skill
I mean, frost cloud is good and all, but don't you elememes wish you had other skills? What do you do at r6 when FC is on cd, or at Tyla Monastery? I honestly would rather choose playing a pyro over an elementalist for a dps wiz if ball was immobile
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>>153569287
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>>153567851
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>>153569287
>>153569398
Kanker.
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>>153569334
>if ball was immobile
Add a ground target and an immobile attribute and Pyro would be 100% viable on a wiz3 build.
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>a dozen damage circles on the boss
>QS3 draws aggro and takes him away from them
Fucking hang them all
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>>153567851
>>153569287
>>153569398
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>>153569730
Can pyromancer really outdo elementalist in the same spot?
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>Have 4 Harpy WB cubes
>Reroll all of them
>End up with 16 cards and no Audra
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>>153567851
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>>153569730
Minmaxing isn't my point at all, I've had my fair share of good builds TM. I've never played a wizard because I'm not usually interested in them on RPGs, but how bloody boring is it to play an elememe? At least pyro seems more fun as you're actually doing shit here and there
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>>153570087
Cards are bretty good though
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>>153570462
Not when it costs 100k per reroll
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Is there atleast a guild in the OP know and respected or they are all considered memes and clowns?
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>>153570056
On the aoe department? No way
They have better single target, but it's still lower than fletchers.

>>153570352
Minmaxing isn't point too, fireballs melee only and moveable are just terrible to play with.
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>>153570534
MMOTANK
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>>153570534
>Rerolling
Why not just use it as card fodder
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>>153569138
Thanks dude, I will go with the Hackapell for now.
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>>153570567
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>>153568062
So what's the hot new build for memelocks?
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>>153570087
>rerolling 30k+ cubes
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>>153570810
Pyro.
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>>153570939
nigg
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>>153570810
Sword1Pelt1Hop3Doppelgoon or A2R3SR2
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>>153568602
4/5
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>go park and afk farm
>see a chaplain buffing and running in between before standing up on my chair
>report it
>it triggers a quest object
Err oops.
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>>153571124
>not mentioning THE fencer build
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>market items don't sell because nobody is left to buy them
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>>153571713
>playing with chopsticks
Better a Doppel
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>>153572156
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what are the best two handed swords? they all look like shit
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>>153572369
For now, either magi or viene two handed.

>they all look like shit
Yeah, I hate how they look stupid. Messer fucking when, IMC?
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>can't stop thinking about crush
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Any videos of alchemists c3 leveling?
Can they keep up with just their mememissile?
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I JUST DELIVED MY 130 KLAIPEDA TELEPORT BECAUSE OF ANOTHER RANDOM QUEST FROM A 242 MAP

I

WANT

TO

SHOT

MYSELF
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I want a wolf mount.
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>>153573753
>he didn't abandon it first
What a retard
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>>153573739
>MM
>R8 content
Hahahah
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>>153573753
You could have dropped the 130 quest, bought the holy water and done the 130 quest again, you fucking retard.
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>>153573737
Take action, they're probably just as lonely as you
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>>153573917
>>153573890

Mine was that "kill 100 monsters on forest of shit". Not sure it this was possible. I'm still a retarded anyway. At least I didn't talked to the girl
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>>153573739
if you go wiz3linker2 you'll be fine, still wanted in parties anyway
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>>153572369
>>153572854

Twin Blade looks nice, especially with crossguard.
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>>153573737
Fag.
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>>153572854
>>153574136

that's true, twin blade also remembers me of the fiercy deity link from majora's
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>>153573891
he meant alchs energy bolt 3.0
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>>153563809
That didn't stop them from losing a head to head match against crimson in the midnight period right after the reset, which should've counted for that week according to imc's patch notes. Instead, it counted for this week. Like the other post pointed out, bad apple's games kept counting last week while crimson's didn't after some point. Alpha also has wins not being counted, and there's several other active guilds not being ranked. The rankings for both weeks are entirely bullshit.

And imc is distributing thousands of TP based on these bugs.
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>>153574136
>a fucking nail cutter
Looks stupid. I just want a simple, historically inspired design
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>>153574371
that's literally just Freezing Sphere 2.0, and nobody even gets Freezing Sphere.
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>>153574371
It's not bad, but you can't rely on a single skill with a cooldown like that to carry you through the game.
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Whats a good build for Druid c3?
>>
Any good RogueHakka build?
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>>153575561
QS3 Ranger Rogue Falcon Hakka

QS3 + Ranger for arrow stacking (barrage is confirmed to work), Rogue to combine Sneak Hit + Cavalry Charge or just general back kiting, Circling so you're not useless in parties, you can capture Circling to use it more often.

Yes Backstab does work on mount now but you have two other haka melee skills with like 5k power I dont think you'd want to bother with backstab anymore
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>>153575369
It's only 18s with 3 overheat charges.
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>>153575784
Unless it hits 150k per bolt it ain't carrying you by itself, mate.
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>R8 power creep makes picking anything in your previous circles other than utility for your R8 pointless
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>Legion comes out
>ToS population doesnt go down
doomposters btfo
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>>153576041
So, cleric 2 diev 3 priest 1 oracle 1 master race?
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Hi guys, was browsing thru the thread in /vg/ and found this one.

Is this game worth playing? Is it too late? Is it pay to win? Is it fun!?

Also are u able to customize your character?
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>>153576553
Worth trying out

Not too late
Not pay to win

Fun before it becomes Hehehehe
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>>153570567
FOE is the guild you're looking for
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>>153575397
help anons
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>>153577053
All of FOE is literally playing aura kingdom, so they'd probably feel lonely there.

Probably better off with Ohayou or something.
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>>153570087
do you need an audra recipe?
if you are on klaipeda server see me at fedi ch4 by storage
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>>153576553
>worth playing?
depends on you

>too late
nope, just in time actually

>pay to win?
surprisingly its one of the most least pay to win games out there

>is it fun?
for the first 3 rerolls sure, after that youd slap a permanent smile on your face and rid yourself of emotions just to get through your fourth char and fourth playthrough
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>>153570567
Ohayou!
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>>153570567

The only guild on the OP that is well-known and respected would be Coffeehouse. One guy said that. That's because of the size of Fedimian.

Next is Comfy, they're rather literally whos on their server due to the size of the playerbase, but they're well-respected by some allied guilds and even their (former) enemies.

Finally there's the Klai guilds.

Well.

Yeah.

Klai guilds.
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>>153570567

Crimson (Eroc)
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What did my friendlist meme by this?
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>>153573753
One of the party quests gives you a warp back to Uska.
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>>153578475
/crash (you)
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>>153577548
Fedimian is only sliglty less populated than Klaipeda, population wise are close to each other
Also, there are the proofs Coffee is respected there?
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>>153579082
>Fedimian is only sliglty less populated than Klaipeda
KEK
Fedi is closer to Orsha
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>>153569935
Why.
Can't.
Bowfags.
Learn.
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>>153527361
Pic related is just for you.

>>153560109
Awful advice. You'll get stuck in the 160-190 hell forever if you do this.
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>>153579082
>Also, there are the proofs Coffee is respected there?
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/guild-list-fedimian-server-in-game/243094
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>>153562505
>Fletcher in TBL party
>No PDs/Oracles on opposing party
>Never uses Broadhead even once

why
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>>153578718
/crush (You)
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>>153579869
>No Arrows xD
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>>153579869
Revive.
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>>153580078
Revive does nothing. It gives your 1 second of immunity and then the bleed kicks back in and finishes you.
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>>153569935
>can't do enough damage to keep aggro
>complains about the bowfag
maybe if you weren't so shit, bowfags would actually bother slowing down their dps to kite in small circles for your zero damage magic circles
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Is there seriously still no real info on Mikos?
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>>153580170
>1 second of immunity
>he doesn't have godly priest 3's giving 10 seconds invulnerability
lmao
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>>153580213
>bowfag doesn't know how aggro works and over aggros
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>>153580170
>revive
>1s of immunity
Play the game.
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What's the DPK on Demonas Gauntlet recipe?
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>>153580213
>can't do enough damage to keep aggro
Of course I can't if you drag the boss out of all my spells
REEEEEEEEEEE
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>have 7 characters
>took 6-9 hr to finished mission and dg with token
>log out
>repeat everyday
>mfw
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>>153580613

About 100 or so
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>>153580213
>QS3 runs in, immediately gets aggro
>keeps building it as he runs around with Running Shot constantly shooting it
>everyone dumps their magic circles on the boss when it's standing still
>archer immediately runs away again, taking the boss with it
Play the game
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>>153580363
>10
ptg
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>>153580596
It's something like 3 seconds in pvp.
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>>153580815
>killed over 400
Guess it's not my lucky day.
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>>153581004

On the same channel or did you hop around?
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>everyone dumps their magic circles on the boss
>capture it all
>put it back on the boss right away
>#1 damage dealer
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>>153581035
Don't tell me that the counter resets when you change channel. That's just unfair for how low some of these mobs' spawn density are like.
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>>153581121
Get a full int thaum friend to reversi them right after for maximum effectiveness!
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>>153581504

It's more of DPK is per channel. If you change channel often you're gonna cuck yourself.

Regardless if you believe it or not, try to stay in 1 channel. It's just Blue Spion Archers anyway, not Galoks. I farmed 2 sets of Demonas Gauntlet and Superior Greytis Greaves this way and got them all around 100 kills each.

Four times. Never changed channels.
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>>153581504
>Don't tell me that the counter resets when you change channel
No, but every channel has a different counter.
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>>153581504
Don't listend to DPK shitters.
They keep changing the rules about how it works, and somehow expect to be taken seriously.
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>>153581956
Keep wasting your time farming in a non efficient way, retard.
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I want a car mount for my cata and listen to Intial D soundtrack all day long.
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>>153541752
Those names look like they belong to the Titan server. Of course, it's been years and I might be dreaming.
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>>153581956
Nigga, I don't think you even know about those rituals people did before upgrading shit from Hollgrehenn NPC.
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>>153582112
Running in the 90.
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>>153576041
>>153576521
That or PD2 or kriv3Druid2Daoist
I think
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>>153582067
It's the "retard means correct" meme again. Even if that version of DKP which disagrees with every other version of DPK were real, he'd still be right because the most efficient way to farm would still be maximizing the number of mobs killed until you get some sort of information about the drop counter, and once you get a drop, you'd obviously change channels to get away from the newly reset counter. Typical PDKfag, giving advice that goes against your own theory.
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>>153583464
>the most efficient way to farm would still be maximizing the number of mobs killed until you get some sort of information about the drop counter, and once you get a drop, you'd obviously change channels to get away from the newly reset counter
Which is the opposite of keeping channel hopping like a retard, which is what that anon was doing.
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>>153581786

Blue Spion Mages*. God, I hope you didn't go hunt archers.
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>>153584013
Read what you just quoted in green. It literally describes channel hopping like a retard.
>>
>go c2 diev3 oracle PD2
>be cool as fuck, pretty good in PVE but suboptimal there, not a sellout tierfag
>go c2 diev3 kabbalist inquisitor
>completely overpowered, totally unbeatable in PVP, but no strike damage buff from monk so again suboptimal, shitty mess in PVE and absolute soul-selling class choice
FUCK
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Kept killing the archers in the same channel and the recipe dropped after ~130 kills. Thanks lads.
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>>153585907

Oh dear God you really went and kill archers. It was the mages, sorry. But grats on the drop.
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>>153569935
>>153579635
>>153580213
I can't forgive them luring away bosses from owls
>>
Is it worth maxing Gung Ho for my Dragoon if I'm getting Pelt C1 anyway?
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>>153585832
>Not getting Paladin
Not a real Inquisitor.
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>have all the mats for Virtov Plate Shirt and Pants
>those two recipe drop never ever
>carrying around 102 tough shells all day like an idiot
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>IMC releases Inquisitor, an anti-magic specialized class
>at the same time they kill all of the mage classes and make swordsmen overpowered
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>>153586201
No, but put 3 points into it.
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11.13334554
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>>153586689
But Pain Barrier is just 2 seconds shorter if I leave it at 2 right?
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>>153586812
And Gung Ho is just 6 more damage.
Pain Barrier is the better pick.
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>>153586329
I'm making a full dex Paladin for Inquisitor and it's a huge pain to level it up. after 140 or so.

Going PD or Kabbalist after C3.
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>>153586979
Just for those 2 seconds? I mean Gung Ho is 10 seconds longer at 5 too.

I just want to know if I'm going to be using Guardian more (incompatible with GH), that's the deal breaker for me.
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>>153586531
Gee, it's like you don't expect any magic monsters post-280.
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>>153585907
Where do you get the Slash Gauntlets?
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>>153587148
>Just for those 2 seconds?
Yes, 2 seconds of total knockdown immunity is way better than 6 damage.
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>>153586119
No harm done. At least I won't mistake which monster to kill for the slash gauntlets recipe.
>>153587235
Infro Bloods at Spring Light Woods.
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>>153587235

Infro Blood from Spring Light Wood.
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>>153587503

>tfw I hunted for Gloves of Smashing by mistake
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>>153575760
>Barrage is confirmed to work
Fuck. I think I might end up making this a2 ranger scout a Hakkapälle then, specially if Multi shit works too. From there, where should I go, though? You mentioned rogue1 and falc1, so maybe fletcher1 for the bleed, def decrease and Barbed Arrow?
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>>153541867
maybe a bit late buddy, but here you go

you can take 3 points from broadhead and 2 from barbed arrow if you want maximum Divine Machine Arrow. It falls down on personal preference.
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>>153587870
>15/15 Crossfire
Top kek
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>>153587870
>nonmaxed broadhead
>maxed crossfire
>no points in divine machine meme
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>>153580213
What most QS seem to forget is that whoever attacks first, draws the aggro. You first let the swordsman or anyone else attack the monster first, otherwise you'll end up pulling the boss and making it difficult for anyone else to override your aggro, as you're making the boss dance and that fucks up some skills.
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>>153587870
THIS IS NOT HOW YOU BUILD A FLETCHER
>>153541867
Whatevever you do DON'T LISTEN >>153587870
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>>153587870
>crossfire
Don't misinfo the poor guy. I hope you didn't fall for misinfo as well.

Should be:

10 MA

15 Barbed

5 DMA (ok pve rotation filler and excellent in pvp)

0~1 bodkin (literally only for tree in missions and cryos in pvp, so 0 is fine if you don't care.

9~15 Broadhead. That 6 point variance is in case you want 1 point in Bodkin and 1~5 points in Crossfire (literally only ever used for farming very low HP mobs).
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>>153588462
Bodkin is useful on Harpy too, I'd put 1 point in it.
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>>153588462
Barb is a fake multi hit right?
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>>153587157
>try to discuss the actual endgame content
>get a fedimian reply
sasuga
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>>153589120
Yes.
100% plate, 200% leather, 300% cloth are the final multipliers.
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>>153587712
Pls respond https://tos-kr.neet.tv/skill-planner#314189eb7.1a284a5161.15213445.15213445.152535.112135455162.152535.15516175
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>>153588462
>don't misinfo the poor guy

a lot from Fletcher falls down to personal preference. Max magic arrow and almost everything else is okay no matter how you put points in them. I got the build myself from a top tier Fletcher player and I have gotten far with that build too so I see nothing wrong with it.

Forgot to mention though, that Broadhead is good, but only if you PvP. Personally I hate PvP but for PvE, broadhead barely adds anything.

1 point in bodkin is a must because it doesnt take away anything from Fletcher, yet it gives a really good skill against bosses who create barriers (and it destroys barriers in PvP too).

DMA is personally pretty weak, and it shines only against flying targets. DMA literally does what Fletcher shouldnt be doing, which is seperating enemies.
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>>153586531
>clerics don't exist
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>>153589529
>DMA literally does what Fletcher shouldnt be doing, which is seperating enemies
Fletchers should fight more than 1 enemy anyway.
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>>153589809
yeah but DMA is also shit against single targets, unless you're fighting a flying target
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>>153589529
>Forgot to mention though, that Broadhead is good, but only if you PvP. Personally I hate PvP but for PvE, broadhead barely adds anything.

Quite wrong, you must not have a good broadhead. The power of fletcher comes from stacking damage tics, and broadhead is one of the best at it with its low execution time.

>1 point in bodkin is a must
It's really not in the slightest, but there's nothing wrong with getting it for those extremely niche situations where it might be useful. Can still totally do without it unhindered.

>DMA is personally pretty weak, and it shines only against flying targets. DMA literally does what Fletcher shouldnt be doing, which is seperating enemies.

This is basically where anyone can tell you're not very experienced. First of all, there is LITERALLY no knockback with DMA. The knockback either got removed in beta long long ago, or there simply is no enemy that cannot resist it AND has high enough HP to be able to survive the initial hit.

It's also not flying enemies that get huge damage from DMA, it's plate enemies! Considering your barbed arrow takes a hit against plate/ghost, DMA becomes your first and best go-to filler.
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>>153590143
Way better than Crossfire.
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>>153588309
stop the misinfo. That's as solid PvE Fletcher build you can get. Sure you can switch points from Crossfire to Broadhead if you want to PvP.
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>>153590389
>crossfire 0 cd, deals flat 4-6k damage on explosions
>DMA 10 sec cooldown that does a burst of 12k total damage (around 20k to flying targets)

wew
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>>153590270
>doppel
>no DPE on
??????
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>>153590640
Cooldown doesn't matter when you have Barbed arrow, which is a better filler than Crossfire unless on ghost.
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>Sitting in class
>Girl sits down next to me
>Whips out that Lala branded drink
>Can only think about ToS from then on

I hate you all
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>>153590671
I forget sometimes. Please forgive, I've only just recently purchased a rank of the skill because I've heard you can get the bonus from it by activating it while bosses are in their exploding death state.
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>>153590640
>his DMA only does 12k
This might be your problem. It can hit 40~50k+ combined on a ground plate target or 70~80k+ on a flying plate target.

And again, flying adds NOTHING to DMA that it doesn't add to your other skills by using a 2h bow. It is the armor type (plate) that gives DMA a damage boost.

There's also room in any rotation for DMA unless you're up against a single cloth target, while there is 0 room for crossfire ever.
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So Revenged Sevenfold is going to get the Bloodletting treatment in PVP one day, right? They can't possibly intend to leave it like this.
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>>153590498
No PvE fletcher build can be solid if they wasted 15 whole points in crossfire.
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>>153591174
Watch your mouth kid.
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>>153590875
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When is player housing?

When do we get inns?
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>>153591859
What would you even do with a player house?
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>>153591962
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>>153591962
I would throw a house party and get everyone drunk. I would then take the incapacitated Murbish, Mia, Merigolds, Mimi, and Koenig and slip them into my secret dungeon under the carpet that has a bunch of skeletons and torture equipment.
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>>153591962
Probably the same things I did in FFXIV.

Decorate it, rearrange it, hunt and farm for furniture, pack in there with my guildies or special friend to talk about stupid things for hours.
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>>153592280
I want to be force-fed hentai curated by merigolds because she has the best taste
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>>153592280
Rance can you add me to that list too? I'm not a namedrop but I want in on this.
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>>153592098
Orc rape?

>>153592396
>Decorate it, rearrange it, hunt and farm for furniture, pack in there with my guildies or special friend to talk about stupid things for hours.
Sounds nice, but IMC would probably make it like Mabinogi where you can sell stuff from your house and people will just use it for shops and never decorate them anymore. Fucking DevCat.
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>>153592606
I want to claim fedimians market district
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>>153592280
All of them start with M.
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>>153594458
Staff_MAX confirmed
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How much DEX do i need for the standard pve Sw/pel/hop3/dop/goon2 build ?
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>>153594458

Even Koenig starts with M, if you know what I mean.
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>>153594652
as much as you want
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any fansite with full database of the NPC artwork?
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When is our next OW match capyba???
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>>153594753
What's the bare minimum ?
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>Doing saalus
>Final boss killed, drops cubes
>Chronomancer gets a ressurection off
>Kill it within 60 seconds, get a second set of cubes

I like this meme. This meme is great.
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>>153541752
>Goblin Gambler
>not Goblin Mugger
Play The Game
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Why do you keep coming back, /tosg/?
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>>153509789
>faggots here said the wow expansion will kill every game out there
>install and get onto the new expansion
>even the canelle-less orsha is more alive than this hyped up turd
fuck you faggots for memeing everything, now I have to grind for gears again because I gave it out
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>>153595892
Because I legitimately enjoy the game to a degree. It's a few PVP balance changes from being extremely enjoyable for me.
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>>153594458
M-mommy...
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>>153596665
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>>153596665
What did she find out?
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>>153595892
I don't know
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>>153596805
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I was watching the latest Danganronpa episode with a cow when this happened
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>>153597276
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>>153597276
Thats not me!
Drawings aren't canon!
And im not lewd!
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>>153597927
stop lewding our GL!
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>>153598063
Cuck
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Does Safety Wall block Incineration? My understanding was that it's a debuff so it should go through.
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>>153598063
I dont lewd anyone!
>>153597821
Out of context
>>153598898
IM PURE
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Sometimes I want this game to be a single player rpg, with a storyline, autistic collections, and no more 2fps hoglans.
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>>153598873
Safety Zone doesnt block Incinerate, infact if they stand in one thinking they're safe they're just asking to get LIT UP. The damage wont go through though until they get out of it.
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>>153598898
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>>153599139
I've masturbated to you a couple times. While sitting next to you in-game.
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>>153598898
Of course not. Lala isn't a person.
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>>153598898
I find Lolipan to be the most lewd.
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How fast can a kirvis druid clear 130 dungeon?
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>>153598898
Lalacow is the only person who's Ohayou has to include the tits
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>>153599139
>Out of context
No, you were watching Dongrope and there were tiddies.
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>>153599231
So it lands but no tics proc until they're out? My build doesn't have a knock back so it sounds like they'd just sit inside not taking any damage until incinerate ends.

Oh well, guess it's another way to abuse counterspell. Let them feel safe, tag incinerate, counterspell wall off.
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>>153599243
its all fun and game untill a faggot take his dick out
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>he doesn't have Lalaco nudes

Why are you even still playing?
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Thoughts on this being a 3Dex/1Spr inquisitor alternative to the conventional paladin c3 monk 1 route? Monk c2 for finger flick.
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41172399.1a213a435561.11243545.14213545.152535.2a3141556571
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Should I buy a Petamion?
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>>153599471
yeah I love using Counterspell to rip off their Safety Zones

I usually hexing first since they're standing still doing nothing and effigy spam usually kills them. Incinerate can still be resisted by high SPR people which gets annoying
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>>153595914
k
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>there is literally no-one at helgascale world boss in varena
TOP KEK
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>>153600478
>anyone bothering to do helga on any server
play the game
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In case you forgot or never heard;

Reminder that it's Klaipeda best girl and guild leader Plasmagica's birthday today! Make sure to wish her a happy birthday, even if you don't personally know her I'm sure she'll appreciate it! Maybe even get together and throw her a surprise party in Fedi!
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>>153600770
>a surprise
>posted in a public thread
shell never see it coming xD
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>>153600770
What animal is the left one supposed to be? Why doesn't she have animal ears?
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>>153600770
>her
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>>153600770
>she
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>>153600909

Her twintails represent the dog ears, silly

>>153600941

sorry, him(her)* !
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>>153599964
Anyone?
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>>153595892
Stockholm syndrome
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>>153595892
>implying I ever left in the first place
please help me
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Help, I'm a Klaipeda shitter and thus have never stepped foot in ET.

How big are the pulls there? I'm working on a class that has an extremely tight skill point spread, and right now basing my thoughts around 10 target pulls. I can go up to 12, or 14 if needed, but the most comfortable spread I can work out right now would allow 10 targets. Will I need more than that?
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>>153599559

But Lalaco is a girl(dumb cow) so it isn't gay
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>>153602118
You will never get invited into et parties unless you're using a very very specific meta build.
If you try with a PUG, you won't past the first floor.
To answer your question, around 50 or so?
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>>153602426
is cleric2>diev3>druid>plague acceptable?
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>>153602426

>50

What?
More like ~15 per wave.
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>>153602531
>diev3
yes
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>>153602531

Yes and it will get a lot stronger with PD2
I think Oracle for Counter Spell would be better than Druid though, Druid1 is pretty lackluster
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>>153602426
I am a very specific meta build. Namely:
>>153602873
The oracle version is actually exactly what I am. I don't really believe you about the 50 monster pulls, though.

>>153602580
So I should gear around about 15? Well, I don't suppose I'll need to hit every one of them. Thanks.
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>>153603152
gear what
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Is there any non-shit dps wizard build for r8?
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>>153603347
Gear around as in... Build around. Focus on. Not gear as in equip gear.
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>>153603357
Wiz 3 ele 3 warlock 2
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>>153603754
He said non-shit.
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>>153603357
Wiz 3 cryo 3 PK Runecaster

It's only DPS for a few seconds though.
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>>153603840
I know.
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>>153602580
its 20 per wave
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>>153603375
build what, whats your spread
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>>153603951
For r8
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Someone post the wizard Alice outfit please.
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>disenchant's land rate is 10% per level
>there are 10 levels of it
>to stop failing disenchant you will need C3 plague doctor
>there are only 5 levels of bloodletting, so you'll never have full uptime on it in PVP
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>>153605330
And thank god you can't get 100% uptime with pdbloodletting. Now they need to make oracle require actual investment for counterspell and prophecy to be as strong as they are and to give r7 the half damage in pvp theurge treatment and then we can move on to fixing wizards.
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>>153605653
You can get 100% prophecy and the only relevant debuffs that are Lv 2 are rodelero's buffed debuffs and hexing. It's really not especially strong at all.
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>>153605730
>he hasn't been slowly effigied to death yet in PvP
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>>153605872
Hexing is level 2, but effigy is level 1.
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>>153605730
That's what I mean, prophecy needs to be brought in line with bloodletting for oracle 1 so players have to choose between 100% uptime or Kabbalist. Oracle 1 gives almost the full benefit of the class currently, a class shouldn't be operating at nearly full power as a one point dip.
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>mfw didn't buy the tokens when they were at least 500k
>mfw no more tokens
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>>153606093
>a class shouldn't be operating at nearly full power as a one point dip
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>>153606093
>a class shouldn't be operating at nearly full power as a one point dip.
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>>153605330
Reminder that this skill is a rank 3 debuff with 2 overheat and only PD beakmask can block it (even then its only 80% chance)
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>>153606507
I've resisted this pretty often on kToS and only have 30 points into SPR.
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>>153588462
I'm late but thanks a lot.
I did a lot of research so you're mostly confirming what I thought, the only thing I wasn't sure is if crossfire was still shit after the hitbox buff, an

If I want to optimize general grinding, Is there any order I should put points in? I'm also worried that putting too many points in barbed right away might make it harder to spam. I'm quite poor and I don't wanna throw my meagre savings away by buying too many sp pots. I'm just squatting every 10sec to save on that.

Should I still try getting an arde dagger and a decent crossbow or should I just get the best bow I can find?

>>153588104
>>153588173
>>153588309
>>153591219
Thank you guys too.
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>>153606507
>>153606637
How's the skill hitbox ? Is it easy to avoid like incinerate ?
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How do bokors work? I mean I get that there is the phys or the magic way to play them but what are the skill builds for each?
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>>153606228
>>153606436
I'll give you scout, but pelt has changed a lot, Murmillo and umbo thrust also make going pelt3 worthwhile.
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>people are still considering PD2 after the mass reroll going on in ktos
Do you guys read the ktos forums? At all? Ever? What the fuck are you doing.
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>>153607190
Physical = zombies
Magic = hexing
That's all there is to it.
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>>153589496
Pls
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC3WJh8H5FI

>elememes are useless
>no party will want them

Well looks like mobs are melting to me with this party.
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>>153607294
What's wrong with pd2?
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>>153600770
it was my birthday yesterday! Happy B-days all around
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Hey guys what r8 should I go as a cryo3chrono3?
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>>153607604
>elememe is individually strong just look at this party play
k
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>>153607991
Sage.
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>>153607991
Enchant Lightning
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>>153607604
>he bought into the elememe meme
Nobody actually believes the "elememes are replaced" shit. That meme spawned here, on tosg. kToS party makeups are basically unchanged, swordsmen are still second class citizens except now the other second class citizens (monks) have a skill (wheel) that makes them able to party with swordsmen, so they all huddle together. For long term grind groups, ele3 is still preferred.
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>>153607680
>What's wrong with pd2

Nothing, he just memeing about PD2 to reduce competition because PD poison get overwriten by another PD
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>>153607680
Not him but the koreans are complaining that the new skills are bad unless you're bokor pardoner PD and that you're doomed to solo if you are. Also I guess disenchant can be resisted just like incineration and so the land rate is actually a lot lower. They're also complaining about the animations for vapors/incineration but everyone has been complaining about those since PD1.

A lot are afraid that plague vapors interacting with epidemic is unintended and will be removed because epidemic still doesn't spread incinerate.
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>>153607604
>7k tics with Chappy
>5k without it
Even my Frost Cloud tics higher, this is giving me hope.
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>>153608336
>Even my Frost Cloud tics higher
FUCKING LIAR
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PSA Alpha is the best guild and you guys can't prove me wrong :)
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>>153607604
Is that a +239 blessing? Why is it so weak.
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>>153608442
Why would I lie about that?
5k on neutral is not impressive at all considering there are people doing 8k+.
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Cleric c2 > Zombokor 3 > Monk c2 > Inquisitor. God finger flick the wheel then zombie choo-choo it while your stuff is on CD. Thoughts?
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>>153608336
>this is giving me hope.
??????
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>>153606139
>He didn't stockpile them when they were in the 300k range, then get a gorillion TP for having them

Sucks to be you, cubererollfag.
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>>153608336
Monsters have 3k mdef
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>>153608608
With 1600 matk and 75% attributes you'll barely be doing 4k.

In before hook64 with 3k matk and 100% attribs.
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>>153606093
>a class shouldn't be operating at nearly full power as a one point dip.
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>>153609121
Nerfed hard, should be overhauled.
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>>153609219
>laughing ranger-rogues.jpg
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>>153609321
>joint penalty+magic missile had a bugged interaction for under a month and was "fixed"
>feint barrage still untouched
fuck these gooks
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>>153606093
>a class shouldn't be operating at nearly full power as a one point dip.
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>>153609543
While this is accurate, JP+MM literally catapulted Vanzel to #1 in both TBL queues in Klaipeda. If you landed JP on the enemy team or most of them you won the match as soon as you pressed Magic Missile. Feint/Barrage isn't instantly ending TBL matches like that.
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>>153609036
Squirrels "only" have 831 def though

Think most 300+ have over 1k need, 3k mdef is rare I believe
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>>153609321
>>153609543
feint barrage is overrated desu
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>>153609741
so you be saying

that imc doesn't play their own game

and only knows about jp+mm because a lot of people complained about it

damn...
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>>153608882
That video shows a elementalist doing fine without 100% attribute and +20 enchanted gear.

>>153609036
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/npcs/58536
Not those ones.
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>>153609597
Nerfed hard and powercreeped
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>>153610015
>guaranteed crit rate and capture are powercreeped
Play it.
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is it theoretically possible to even beat a team of organized clerics in this game as other classes besides cleric?

clerics have massive area control, arguably have decent dps and bullshit immunities/invulnerability skills and recovery
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>>153609970
>That video shows a elementalist doing fine without 100% attribute and +20 enchanted gear.

Well no shit captain, what were you expecting? Did you honestly freak out at the mere thought od not being the top dog anymore? Lose weight.
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>>153609861
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/npcs?lvlmin=280&lvlmax=330&order=lvla&f=1&page=14

Pretty much seems like.
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>>153610015
>capture
>power creeped
This is literally impossible.
>sneak hit
>power creeped
So is this.
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Archer2 Hunter Scout Fletcher3 -> PRAISE TENGRI

OR

Archer3 Hunter Scout SR3
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>>153610398
The second one have 0 synergy with SR, go with the first.
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>>153610378
If two skills is all it takes then add Kabbalist to that list.
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>>153610116
>a team of organized clerics

Most of my loses in TBL was because we get 3-4 cleric in one team and not enough damage to kill anything. 2 cleric are fine, anything more than that you better pray for a decent CC/DPS
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>>153609093
1560 M.attack, 450 m.amp and 75% attribute, on these mobs:
https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/57944
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NEW THREAD NOW PLEASE
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>>153610874
H-he meant without quick cast!
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>>153610098
Hurr Durr play the game
Fucking hate this shitty meme. Both of those are rogue1 and don't really require you to go an additional circle into that class, which is what the other guy was complaining about.

Rogue was awesome back in icbt2 when karacha set was stronger and you could instakill pretty much anything by that level. Burrow being moved to 3 when nothing else was gained didn't make things better
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Archer Quarell3 Rouge Falconer2

Would this be a decent build for grinding, and some light pvp from time to time? Or I guess I should ask what is a decent Falconer build made up of?
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>>153608336
What does Chappy last rites even do? The description is vague as hell, it just says it adds holy damage but doesn't say how much or to what, just that it scales in proportion to sacrament. Is sacrament something chaplain's should max for that interaction when priests are already super point starved and you can just buy it anyway?
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>>153610116

I remember beating a team of 3 clerics when I had another kino by my side. I'm cryokino so I just stall their ausrine/bloodletting with raise into snowrolling
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>>153607604

>shit weapon (horse dick kekmace)
>probably shit attributes too
>shit buffs
>5*33
>165k aoe damage


and people still crying
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>>153611240

migrate
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>>153611041
I meant Chapparition cards anon.
I have no idea how much damage it is but I'm sure it adds a damage line to your autos and I think it scales with your, or a teammate, missing health
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for people playing on korea how is druid 3?
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How come no guild is queueing? Is everyone that poosy
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>>153609865

I dunno, I think a 200k burst combo is relevant at any point in this game.
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