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>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DLC Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic4EHyRm_Tw [Embed]

>DARK SOULS 2
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>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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>>153265586
First
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>>153265617
>>153265617
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reposting for help

I have 40 faith and im mainly only using dragonslayer greataxe, should I drop the faith or will I lose tons of AR?
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Can some honestly explain to me why all weapons and armor sets from the previous games weren't in this one?

This game should have 200+ sets and weapons, its not like they bother making unique models and balance them, just put them in as copypasted skins.
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>>153265586
Anyone want to do co-op run of ds3 on ps4?
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>>153265586
What is this, an OP for ants?
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In it for the footsies
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>>153265870
Just go pure strenght with just the faith requirement, it doesn't add that much damage anyway
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>>153265896
weapon arts
They have no excuse for armor though
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>>153265932
40 strength? 50?
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>>153265870
Pretty sure you lose like 30AR
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I need fun builds.
I am tired of doing the same old str/dex builds.
Anyone got suggestions. On ng+, have 2 of each boss soul, and sl 100.
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>>153265870
My dude, there is a way to check for yourself.

Mugenmonkey.com
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>>153266057
Pure miracle caster
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>>153265992
40 Str two handed is 698 AR
66 STr two handed is 730 AR
If you add 40 faith to the 66str one you have 775 AR
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Reminder
Pvp at sl120 is shit, sl80 masterrace
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>>153266038
lmao
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>>153266121
>Dying is fun
Since when
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>>153266270
Elaborate
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>stupid faggots meme that build variety is higher at lower

Once you get to 120, you can use faith builds, sorcery builds, pyro builds,in addition to generic quality without sacrificing the health required to stand a chance against a quality shitter.

Every person I faced at lower levels used only quality weapons, whereas I see everything from magic to hammers at 120
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>>153266270
>sl80
Pussy. SL70 is where it's at.
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Since the other anon got it clearly wrong, I'll correct him.

Elite Knight > Knight > Fluted > Firelink > Faraam > Hunter
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>>153266489
you can, but you shouldn't, because nothing beats quality
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>>153266275
Place down your summon sign and kill it for me then, this boss is fucking retarded.
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>>153266489
Wizards aren't supposed to have as much health and armor as a knight or warrior
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>>153266606
No, they aren't, but the way the game is set up, they require as much health in order to do anything effectively, as quality builds are overpowered and can r1 lock any mage to death
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>>153266578
>EK in first
>Gaudy surcoat
>No cuirass
>Less poise than Knight
Nah.
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FC when?
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>>153266797
Right now bitchnigga.
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Opinions on this?
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>name stat poise
>doesn't determine how strong your poison effects are

I never understood this.
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>>153266848

where at, shitfuck?
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>>153266883
>Name stat Poise
>Doesn't function as a diaper
It's a mystery.

>>153266927
I dunno. Aqueduct?
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>>153266606
actually, wizards aren't supposed to be as frail as a knight or warrior

health is a completely different factor
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>>153266606
Pontiff is a sorcerer yet he has an immense amount of health and endurance.
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>>153266971

sure, you hosting?
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>>153265586
Someone help me come up with a great tank build.

What are the best shields and great shields?
>Tower?

What are the best long range weapons, preferably with hyper armor and light.
>halberds or glaives?

Most cost efficient absorption armor?
>fallen knight?

Best tank rings?
>havel, fap, life, leo?
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>washing pole
>doesn't wash pole
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>>153265930
ARSE
dumb deaf busty waifu
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>>153266971
>aqueduct
>have to kill the dogs at NG+6

I'll skip this time
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>>153266470
>at sl120
>40 vig
>40 str
>40 dex, sometimes 40 faith
>fights can take around 5 minutes because even if someone makes a mistake they still have atleast half their hp
>able to wield basically every weapon, don't have to stick to one
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>>153265273
>>153265273
Where you talking about the gargoyls?
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>>153267031
He started as one and then stopped using faggy spells and wands and got a great sword
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>>153266870
>125
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FP/ATT system was a mistake. Ruins the fun for most casters. Likewise, Vit was a mistake.

VIT and ATT should have been removed.

Weight should be tied to STR and END in this game. STR giving 1 units per level, and END giving 0.25 units.

All spells should have a specific number of casts. Leveling up INT/FAI should inherently give attunement slots. This also gives a reason to earn extra spells in NG+ beyond. Ashen Estus gives back spell use based on % of total.

WAs should be based around cooldowns. Things like Morne's and O&U should be 20-30 seconds, while Caesusts and Hammer perseverance be like 5-10.
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>>153266270
>>153267180
Show me a Morne's Hammer SL 80 build.
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>>153267180
So a literall do everything build
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>>153267047
lolno
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>>muh wizards shouldn't have as much health as a warrior
>the one consistent signature weapon for magic builds is a fucking greatsword
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>>153266093
>dont mind me just moving this trash cancer tripfag thread
>>153266820
>shit thread is dead now move to new
>>153265586

For all your fucking showboating you could've at least included a backlink to the old thread.
>b-buh I hate Lucy so much, aren't I cool guys ;_: ?

Pls
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reminder that only literal reddit cancers push for metas that are not 120 so they can win easy fights with dark sword spam nd stroke their tiny dick egos
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>>153267276
>virtually infinite casts using a +10 simple weapon
>not fun

youre weird, anon-kun.
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>>153267048
moaning shield
broadsword is the only option
armor means nothing
life+3, cloranthy+2, fap +2

Poise doesn't exist so real tank builds are impossible tho
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>>153266270
This
>get on sl120 dueling build
>go to pontiff's
>load up CE to check if my opponent is cheating
>6/10 have 50 or 99 in all stats
>1/10 are visibly speedhacking
>gotthard's, gotthard's, gotthard's, carthus +WP, gotthard's
>try invading
>nothing but 3-4 squads of passworded phantoms, stat-hacking hosts, dedicated ganksquads, trainerbabies and washingpole metafaggots camping the fog gate for "1v1" fights where they just cross the fog if they start losing

>boot up level 80 invader
>go to pontiff's
>pvp for about 2 hours straight
>not a single stat-hacker in the entire 2 hour session
>nor speedhack
>nor trainer
>only fought the same weapon twice a single time, and it was the BKS
>go invading
>lots of solo hosts and 2man groups
>no ganksquads
>no stat-hackers
>no metafags camping fog gates
>only one trainer in about 4 hours of invading

In this case 80 being less populated works in its favour, as you basically avoid 90% of the cancer that's overtaken this community, while still being active enough to get instant summons/invasions in appropriate areas.
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>>153267276
Fp regen needs a buff to make casters stronger and some better utility spells in the DLC.

Right now the only ways to naturally recover Fp are slow and seem to be for melee builds
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>>153267276
I agree with you 100%
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>>153267407
I "push for" a sub-100 meta and I don't use a Dark Sword.

So, there.
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>>153267423
LOL you seriously think waiting 20+ seconds just to cast a single Fire Orb is a good idea? While at the same time gimping HP/END stats just to wield said Fire Orb?
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>>153267447
Broadsword doesn't have hyper armor I'm pretty sure.
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>>153267467
This Tbh, 50% of the 120 fags have hacked stats
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>>153267524
oh sorry estoc or any katana then same shit
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>>153267634
Doesn't matter. The fucking thing hits like a meteor roughly the diameter of Texas.
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>>153267467
Idk why you faggots insist on playing with hackers on pc
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>>153267276
I love the FP system. I avoided magic and faith builds in all Souls games except DeS and BB because I hated how your magic was essentially just consumables and you could end up powerless entirely if you were doing pure magic and ran out of your pitiful 5 lightning spears.
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>>153267634
but it does have stunlocks and high dps
just remember to delay every third swing to fuck with non-retards as well as retards, you fucking retard
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>>153267682
>>153267467
PCucks, everyone.
>fuck 120 it has cheaters!!,11
uh no faggots your entire platform is riddled with cheaters including yourselves
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>>153266578
Knight > EK > Fluted/DS1 Knight > Faraam > Didn'tplayBByetsodon'tknowhowgoodthearmoris >>>>>Firelink on a player character

However, in a separate Cold Weather ranking :
Faraam > Fallen Knight > Elite Knight > Knight > Fluted/DS1 Knight
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What did Oceiros even try to do? Lorian got crippled and Lothric was a frail faggot. He was obsessed with finding a worthy heir, so he studied Seathe's crystal magic and somehow turned himself into a dragon? Who the fuck is Ocelotte? His 3rd child? Who did he think he was hiding it from? Did his wife take it away from him and did this turn him completely insane? What does "harness his royal blood for greater purpose" (his soul description) mean?
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If the meta was under 80, str weapons could be removed from the game. They require so much stat investment from a useless stat (vit) just to be wielded, while having no HP because there would be no spare points.

80 meta is Straight Swords, Halberds, Katanas and Curved Swords. There's no room for high investment builds like Vit+GH, Full Faith or Glass Cannon Sorcerer, because they have to compete with light investment builds that do just as much damage as them, but with spare points to invest in Vig and End.

Like I said >>153267284
Show me one viable build SL 80 with Morne's Hammer. Or Smough's Hammer. Or any heavy slow weapon that depends on VIG+VIT to survive trades and stay on top.
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>>153267686
MLGS, akchully.
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>>153267841
But I only use my CE against ganking faggots so it doesn't really count
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>>153267770
fp system is trash and makes it so you always use what's strongest for pve and what's the most effective for pvp because bleach estus exists. It detracts from the caster experience as you always will go back to that one bnb spell

>great chaos fire orb
>great heavy soul arrow
>miracles lol
>dorhys gnaw
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>>153267284
>knight
>45 str
>35 faith
>knights ring
>priestess ring
>sl72, pump the rest into vig/end
>get havel ring and rof
>:<)
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>>153267730
If you can avoid them all by simply not playing at an overleveled meme meta forced by reddit, then it's hardly a problem. DaS2's staggered release proved that the platform doesn't really matter as much as the people playing. Russians, the subhumans that they are, will find a way to cheat no matter what platform the game is on. PS3 DaS2 was absolutely filled inundated with them prior to the pc release. Fortunately, it's easy to avoid them because they can't into critical thinking or other basic human virtues, and so just follow the 120 herd
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>>153267048

Tanking and turtling are distinct things.

For poising through enemy attacks, you want a halberd or a greatsword, they have the best poise frames. Aside from that, just pile on the armor and poise, then hit R1 at the same time your opponent does.
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>>153267730
>play on ps4
>lots of summons, lots of invasions, fun hack free 120 PvP
>nicer community, lots of silly shit and dumb looking characters
>barely any ganksquadding

Why do people fucking play this on pc
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>>153267874
Everyone at 120 is using those same weapons already
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>>153267980
can go 34 str and 30 faith easily.
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>>153268037
MUGH FPS YOU FUCKING PLEB

4K ALL DAY AND NO LOADING TIMES
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>>153267954
You're still cheating you stupid faggot.
>lacks the skill to beat ganksquads
>hmm that host has no phantoms hes ganking better turn on ce
PCucks, everyone
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>>153267602
pure casters are a meme

they give things like chaos and crystal infusions so you don't have to rely on just your spells

blessed and simple really should increased in effectiveness with higher int/fai though, imo
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>>153267770
You get like 10-11 shitty sub-200 damage lightning spears cast at 40 ATT in this game before having to chug blue dew. How is this any better?
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>>153268003
What is the build I'm asking for? A tank or turtle?

I want knight tier armor, with a good shield, long poking weapon with HA, and defensive rings that focus on keeping me alive longer
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>>153268085
And I stomp them on a daily basis with my vit+GH build, that it's only possible at SL 125. The same build, at SL 80, dies in a single 2kat combo.
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>>153267860
>Who the fuck is Ocelotte?
They call him "Shalashaska"
and that's Major Ocelotte to you
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>>153267284
>>153267874
>>153268091
Morne's can also be fully used without the faith requirement, the damage wont be that high but at that sl it wouldn't matter much
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>>153268283
Because I can chug the dew and cast more instead of getting 5 shitty lighting spears and then having literally no more and no way to replenish
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Has anyone got a spare Mirrah set? I fucked the quest up., I'm on PC.
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>trying to make an outfit based on the guy in the black in this painting
>all i have is drakeblood helm and black leggings, can't decide on a torso

i just wanna be motherfucking edward of woodstock
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>>153268037
It looks better and maybe poor to afford ps4 online

>>153268163
I did a pure caster on ds2 and win most duels. Like I win 95% of duels
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how to beat katana run attack? Im not good.
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>>153268342
Turtle. Tanks don't exist in ds3, unless you're prepared to use iron flesh.
Turtles are cancer though so you might as well go the whole way and use a straight/curved/paired sword.
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Why do people use Morne's instead of Wolnir's?

They have the same WA except Wolnir's is actually good with a good moveset
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>>153267284
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>>153268342

There's not really a point to piling on methods of mitigating damage if your plan is to avoid it by blocking.
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>>153268460
In ds2 there was a helmet that recovered your spells every couple mins
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>>153268460
DS2, at least SOTFS had replenishment. Also if you bothered reading the post you originally responded to it kept the ashen estus.
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>>153268556
you roll?
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>>153268556
Parry or don't roll away
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>>153267467
you're right
until yesterday i realized that i was wasting too much time playing the game over and over to test builds, so i resorted to give me enough souls to get to 120 via ce, and upgrade my equiptment

sorry anon, but its better than wasting hours, playing a game that i already know to death when i only want the pvp content
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>>153268573
nobody uses it
/dsg/ only suggests it to invalidate SL80 meta because of its bloated stat requirements, but the weapon is shit and nobody in here dares to use it in pvp
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>>153268504
Use Fallen Knights or Farron's Legion for chest.
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>>153267187
no, i meant the goat. you'll know if you see him. the guide is the most detailed you can get without many spoilers and is accurate.
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>>153268558
Yeah but I prefer a pokey weapon to play keep away.

And I'd rather have hyper armor attacks and absorption

>>153268614
So do you think I should aim for fast rolling too?
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>>153268585
>27 Vig beyond SL 60
>at SL 80 where CCS still has 400+ AR

Please jump off a bridge
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>>153268716
Why don't you just get a char to 120 and use respec to try out new builds
>only 5 respecs
but that's wrong, just copy your save file over
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>>153268506
okay, but das2 wasn't a very good game so that point is moot
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I don't have a dog in this fight, but to the people praising the FP system while playing a caster, I have to question your thinking.

If you think about it, both the FP system and the number-casts system are inherently the same. Both draw casts from a depleting resource, and both have a consumable to replenish that resource.

However, the FP system uses far more inputs. You need to level Attunement, you need to sacrifice Estus for Ashen, and you need to sacrifice Infusions if you use Simple.

Whereas number-of-casts, no matter how shitty they were in Dark Shit 2 after all the patching, could be replenished with a consumable that didn't interfere with your level or your healing items.

I'd say that for casting, the FP system is actually a lot worse.
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>>153268573
They don't. Morne's is a shitty meme thrown around to bait people who prefer SL80.

Wolnir's on the other hand is objectively the best weapon for a faith build and essentially the faith equivalent of the MLGS only way better because it's all physical.
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>>153268851
there's another obstacles like only 8 slabs
and the class selection since i like to make the most out of my stats, right now im using a strenght and int build and i havent made a pyromancy class character before
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>/dsg/ is now anti-FP

holy shit this general literally will argue about anything
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>>153267091
he wasn't in the depths now was he?
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>>153268585
>27 vig
>under 15% abs
>with a weapon that depends on trading
>dies to single 2kat combo
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>>153268743

There's no SL meta where a greathammer with bad R2s, a bad weaponart and that weight/those stat requirements would be good.
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>>153269123
that's 4chan for you
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>>153268789
Just different flavours of shit.
And rolling is actually viable compared to shields, unless you come up against a curve sword user.
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>>153268885
Am I the only one that remembers that their was a dlc crown that replenished casts every few minutes?
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>>153268885
DaS 2 had the herbs that restored spells, but only in limited fucking quantity or as rare drops.

No thanks, I don't want to have to restart the entire fucking game or spend 40 hours farming mobs just to be mildly viable in PvP and not run out of spells.

I'll sacrifice Estus for that.
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>>153268885
>could be replenished with a consumable that didn't interfere with your level or your healing items.
That you had grind for, dupe or cheat in, which is another thing that favored people who autistically grinded a lot of shit or duped things.

>that didn't interfere with your level
Yeah, but you had to level ATT so you could put two of the same spell if you wanted more casts.
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>>153268556
parry
block (this even works with a small shield, and you can parry the R1 following the running attack)
dodge
HA trade
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>>153268748
except the metal on those 2 doesn't match the metal of black leggings and drakeblood
i was gonna use a tattered chest like cornyx's, but the arms are exposed
I might just have to stick with leonhard's chest
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>>153268657
>>153269305
None of that works against washing pole
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>>153269296
>>153269298
The fucking ass bird all you homos masturbated over sold infinite Amber Herbs.
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>>153268573
>Wolnir's is actually good
If by this you mean the GS moveset is better than the GH moveset then yes, but the WA is actual shit and if you disagree you have either never used it, or are trying to elicit (You)s
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You know when you play DeS offline and get that NPC fight for the Old Monk?
What gear is he using?
Like, weapon, armor, spells.

I want to do an Old Monk cosplay in DaS3 since they changed the Xanthous helm to look just like it
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>>153268573
Morne's WA is instant, it's faster than WoG
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>>153269210
>under 15% abs

But everyone says absorption sucks
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reminder that a raw DSA at +10 with 60 fai lightning blade is 700 AR
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>>153269210
>abs
Does not matter, as long as he has atleast
something in the slots the damage difference is negliable
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>>153269539
No. Heavy armor sucks because while shit like knight sets gives 20-25% absorption, Havel's and Smoughs only give 30-35% while weighing 2-3 times as much.
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Reposting this since i didnt get replies last thread

Hey there /dsg/ i'm thinking of making a fresh character for the DLC on PC
Now the slot i'm going to delete has some slabbed stuff and some rings i'd rather have on my SL100 FC guy for more variety in his arsenal.
Now i'm asking you guys if anyone is willing to help me with this transfer and in return i'll use my 2 remaining slabs to slab 2 weapons for you

respond if interested
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>>153269296
See
>>153269291

>>153269418
Yeah but we didn't have unlimited souls in ds2
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>>153268885

Seems to me like it was quite deliberately and consciously made worse. You're not even considering that number-cast doesn't force there to be an opportunity cost for casting one spell over another; using one of your WoG casts will never make it impossible to use more of your Force casts, but that's precisely what can happen when all spells draw from the same resource like with FP.

DS3 clearly hates magic and doesn't want you using it when you could be using melee weapons instead. I think if this game wanted to foster mages, Ashen Estus would just be a completely separate resource, or FP would replenish on its own like stamina.
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>>153269418
Ornifex only sold infinite in vanilla Dark Souls 2. In SOTFS, they were limited.

>>153269457
It's not great but it DOES have poise now at least. There are worse WAs out there, even if it does suck.

The weapon is insane on its own though. Completely fucking nuts.
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>>153269539
>>153269651
It sucks for most weapons but for GH and GA it's a necessity. It's what makes you survive a trade with CSS and 2kats, supplied by over 170 flat.

Defenses in general suck but when you stack them they actually work. Also >>153269680.

The trick is 2 pieces of heavy and 2 of light.
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>>153269680
but if you make havel's and smough's anymore effective, their weight:absorption ratio will beat out everything else in the game by a magnificent margin, leading to builds that revolve around a pseudo-vit "softcap", for the sole purpose of min/maxing smoughvel's
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>>153269375
>None of that works against washing pole
wrong
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>>153268585
>wear literal shit to stay under 70%, have under 600 damage with a great hammer AND have just a sliver over 1k health
So what's the plan here, just to die to four swings from an unbuffed CCS, which is doing its optimal damage at SL 80? Or maybe die in one combo because someone walked up to you while in animation and used Onislayer.
Perhaps it's just about getting oneshot by glaives.
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>>153269680
So then I'm correct in wanting knight tier armor for my tank build here

>>153268342
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FUCK IM LATE

waddup!
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>>153269776
>In SOTFS, they were limited.
lol God that game is shit.

>>153269752
>DS3 clearly hates magic and doesn't want you using it when you could be using melee weapons instead. I think if this game wanted to foster mages, Ashen Estus would just be a completely separate resource, or FP would replenish on its own like stamina.
I'm not sure if that's true. I think it's a good analogy of FROM's typical balancing style: "Well in theory this is good so let's make sure to make it hard to use". The problem is that magic actually sucks dick.

If it were good, all the inputs you need to have and use it would be justified.
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>>153269819
I'm not asking 60% ABS, 40 would suit them. Also why would it matter if people made builds around heavy armor? They would give up attack stats for defense, you know actual balance.
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You know what would be cool?
Contextual casting for certain spells.
Like backstep soul arrows or sprinting lightning spears or something.
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>>153269752
>>153269976
I've been always one of those guys that never made a mage and always hated magic users but even I agree that magic, specially sorcery, is underpowered.

Like I see a CSS I don't even bother dodging it, I just perseverance and outrade a single combo that kills the mage on the spot.
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>>153270014
Because you fags would just want to raise the meta level so every build could have high absorption

Just like you did in ds2 with agility
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>>153269684
Too bad you're on PC mate or I'd help.

The reason no one's answering is because all the other PCucks just cheat.
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>>153265896
Why would you want the game to be bloated with tons of shit? Would much rather they only selected the best.
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>>153270014
40% is too high my dude

even at 35%, smoughs gauntlets and chest pops up in all kinds of builds. that's not good balance

armor needs to have diminishing returns on effectiveness, otherwise people will just min/mix and abuse it

>>153270069
this is already a thing for gfd
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>>153270115
i think its just a matter of time, soon burgerland will show up.
>tfw euro
ALL THESE EVENTS/FC's AT 1 IN THE MORNING
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>>153269819
>but if you make havel's and smough's anymore effective, their weight:absorption ratio will beat out everything else
or you could just buff them without giving them a better weight/absorption ratio than midweight armor? As it stands there's no reason to wear more than 25~30 units of armor weight when you could level vigor instead. Heavy armor just needs to compete with that, not light armor.
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>>153270262
Just buff Vit Equip Load gain. At 40 Vit I should be able to wear full havels, dragon tooth and fast roll.
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>>153270171
>armor needs to have diminishing returns on effectiveness, otherwise people will just min/mix and abuse it
You can minmax with or without diminishing returns on armor
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>>153270451
No, you can't.
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Is heavy bastard sword underrated? If you two hand it with 27/10 str/dex you get 436 AR for barely any stat investment. Also it has low stamina usage and the hyper armor and stagger is the same as a non fun-size greatsword

I've been doing a 40 vit havelfap heavy playthrough for fun and it's been surprisingly satisfying, I bet it would be a decent twink weapon
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>>153270493
raw flamberge is 400 AR with 15 str/dex
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>>153270446
>Just buff Vit Equip Load gain.
That wouldn't work since I can already carry good weapons and full armor at minimum vit. All that you'd do is make mid level armor useless since there'd be no reason to wear anything that light due ot empty equipload space. Either that or people would go for lightrolls.

>>153270479
Go google "DS3 armor minmaxer". Remove all of the heavy armors from your selection pool. Run the minmaxer. Be amazed as it still works, you retard.
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>>153270670
I don't think you understand what I meant when I wrote it buddy.

If the WT:ABS ratio of an armor piece is too high, there is *literally* no reason not to use it. It becomes objectively better than any other armor. Period.

That's the problem with ultra-heavy armor being so ineffectual. If the weight isn't a problem for you (see: SL200+), it doesn't even matter and the point is moot.
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>tfw have enough kill streak on a FC you play recklessly so you can leave the host's world

i-is this what gitting gud feels like?
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>>153270867
>If the WT:ABS ratio of an armor piece is too high
We went over this. You can raise it without making it pass over midweight armor. There's plenty of room inbetween.
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>>153270965
I've literally had to bc out of pontiff fightclubs before because I've been on winstreaks so long I got bored of playing or my fingers started getting sore. I don't feel likle it's being gud so much as it is the average pontiff player just being so goddamned bad. It feels like you're just waiting and waiting for the host to finally summon one of the dozen people who actually know how to play the game so you can graciously lose to a washingpole, but instead they just keep resummoning the same people over and over
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>>153269418
>that didn't interfere with your level
I was never really a fan of Ornifex. The voice acting for her is strange. I think they should've done full animal voices and layed the subtitles there or just given her normal voice acting, instead it just comes off as "person trying to do a bird impression" instead of sounding natural. This isn't to knock down the voice actress for that part, but I think there was a failure in the Voice Acting direction since Alvina for example sounds great, she doesn't sound like a "person doing a cat impression", she sounds like a normal human whose voice just happens to fit a talking cat very well to the point where you don't really question the cat talking or having the voice that it does.

Shalquoir is kind of in the middle. She manages to sound very playful, but I think that she seems a bit too "genre aware" in a sense with some of the lines, for example, with the "it's even enough to keep a cat amused!" and instead of playing into the intended purpose, it drops you back to "This person is trying to play the role of a talking cat" instead of it coming off naturally. It's really hard to explain but yeah.

And I understand that it comes off as rather nitpicky, but the series set a really high standard for Voice Acting and Voice Acting direction in Demon's Souls and Dark Souls that I can't help but notice that something's a little "off" in Dark Souls 2 and a little in Dark Souls 3 as well. Although I get what they were trying to do with 3's "let's make every character end their dialog with a nervous, depressed chuckle", there are some things that make me rub my head like Rosabeth of Milfia in 2 saying "I nearly died, TEE HEE!" which makes Dark Souls 2's atmosphere feel like a happy summer camp atmosphere, but all the shit they showed in the previews made it seem like the atmosphere was going to be a lot darker this time around. I don't dislike Dark Souls 2 overall, but I kinda feel like there was a mismatch in atmosphere.
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>>153269684
2 free slabbed weapons boys
Would appreciate the help
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Why do standard enemies have DS1 poise on DS3?
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>>153271514
because enemies that can be easily staggered are piss easy
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>>153271514
because poise was a mechanic that was detrimental to the game in das1

npcs with poise is just a difficulty thing. they dont actually need it to kill us
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>>153269684
>>153271406
Sure I can help.
Where do you want to meet up?
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>>153269776
The poise only starts at the end of the animation tho right? and I wouldn't say it's "completely fucking nuts" as it can easily be outdamaged by any other GS with a buff on it
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>>153271406
I'll help you for free

location, pass?
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>want to make a hexer in das3
>it's basically just a gimped pyromancer
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>>153271676
Tower on the High Wall
Pass; dsgtrade
So the best way i see is
1. you give me your 2 items
2. i slab them
3. i return and drop them + my transfer gear
4. you give me the transferred gear on my other character

I'll even throw in some blessings
Drop a red sign btw
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How many of you won't buy the DLC because of the lack of poise?
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>>153270982
-and to add to this, compare the knight helm to Smoug's.

Smough's abs/wgt is 0.5, while the knight's is 0.9. Buffing Smoug's ratio to around 0.6 or 0.7 would be perfectly fair.

If you actually look at the poise values armors have, it's clear that they were balanced with poise in mind only for poise to be knocked out, hence why things like the Alva set have almost universally lower absorption values than lighter armors and nothing to show for it but poise (compare the Alva gauntlets to the nameless knight gauntlets for instance).
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>>153271847
I don't really need the slabs so just drop your transfer items.
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>>153271204
I need you to know that I'm not reading any of that. No NPC in DaS2 is worth that much text.
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>>153272089
Okay then, at least take the damn blessings
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>>153265930
Priscilla is queen in that aspect
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>>153271838
Well yeah, but dont you want to be cool?
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>>153270493
>If you two hand it with 27/10 str/dex
>I bet it would be a decent twink weapon
>twink weapon
Haha, no.

The only real twink weapons are ones that you can use on base SL stats+the stat rings.

Good earlygame weapon?
Yea. Twink weapon? No.
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>>153271958
>it's clear that they were balanced with poise in mind only for poise to be knocked out
I've been thinking about this since day one and it's got to be DaS3's greatest atrocity.

It makes me wonder if weapons too weren't adjusted for their hidden Poise damage values.
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>>153272146
That it?
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>>153271958
>compare the Alva gauntlets to the nameless knight gauntlets for instance
>Don't believe this
>Go and check
>the only absorption advantage it has is dark absorption of all things
>and the description even says that it's been trimmed to save weight
It has more bleed resistance, I guess.
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are int + strenght builds ignored?

i invested 40 points in strenght and 60 on int
im buffing heavy infused weapons with the crystal magic buff with the court sorcerer staff and the ar goes up like this

all of them 2 handed
h great club+10 585 with buff 846
h great machete +10 551 with buff 812
h greataxe+10 633 with buff 894
h exile greatsword+10 511 with buff 771

thoughts?
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>>153272452
split damage
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>>153272441
>and the description even says that it's been trimmed to save weight
90% sure the description is a straight copypasta from DS2. In DaS2 Aalva was one of the lightest "medium" armors.
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WOW DANCER'S ENCHANTED SWORD IS fun
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>>153271958
It doesn't even work with poise because Wolf-ring, Yhorm's greatshield, or even off-hand lothric knight spear are better for min/maxing poise

This game had no thought put into it
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>>153272296
I never really considered that, but is past games are an indication of anything, that would affect entire weapon classes rather than individual weapons. It might be why ultra weapons are considered underpowered. On the other hand, that could simply be a result of no-poise making light weapons significantly more effective.

>>153272441
Yeah, Alva is a scaled-down heavy armor set. If you look at heavy armor, you'll see bleed resistance etc skyrocket alongside poise. Alva makes that tradeoff early, which makes it look really bad in comparison to things like the fallen, elite, and nameless knight sets. The gauntlets are the only truly terrible piece. Fallen is basically the reverse, and has really low poise and bleed resistance in exchange for great abs/wgt ratios, though it keeps poison resistance for whatever reason.
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>>153272789
I still think poise doesn't work. I tried Wolf Ring+2 + off-hand lothric Knight spear and didn't notice any difference.
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>>153272789
They might have been okay if you were juggling between boosting poise and absorption and/or wanted to stack even more poise on top of the aforementioned items.

>>153272984
I think he means that "if you were to minmax poise" that using poise items rather than heavy armor would still be a better option.
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Alright what the fuck is this ABS shit? The goes by strike slash and pierce.
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>>153270670
>>153270446
>>153270479


Which armor have the highest wt/abs ratio for each slot?
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>>153273153
I can't believe it's been this long and the average dsg poster has no idea how poise, hyper armor, or abortion works.
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>>153272530
>>153272452
60 int buff is still a sizable chunk of AR, translates pretty well into damage compared to the pitiful AR buff of resin.

Better on weapons with innate split though.
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>>153273153
No idea what the base physical abs is, allegedly the slugs in the keep do pure physical.

strike/slash/thrust are just based off of the three attack types weapons can have. Overheads and smashing attacks from hammers are generally strikes, slashes are side to side cuts, thrusts are pokes and any of the lucerne's attacks. Thrusts also can get counter damage.
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>>153273301
Is that what ABS is short for, Absorption? Why the fuck are people capitalizing all three letters? Shit's an abbreviation not an acronym.

While I'm here then what the fuck is the difference between Absorption and defense?
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>spell buff rating on chimes, talismans and staves in DaS3 are expressed as a flat number in all cases
>instead of a base number plus the increase from scaling, or minus if minimum requirements aren't met, like with the weapons
>after it showed as base number plus scaling in DaS2

Seriously what the fuck Miyazaki, this is why I was confused as to how caster items scaled in this game. I didn't understand what was going on until I actually put my Faith up some more and saw that the talismans that I couldn't use before actually had the same base spell buff as the stock Talisman, and not the flat 60 that showed up.
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>>153273503
>Seriously what the fuck Miyazaki
MagAdj is from DS1.
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>>153273185
It's tied with quite a few pieces

generally speaking, alva, knight, and firewitch show up a lot, with Gundyr's being the heaviest armor set that shows up
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Sorry if the question is dumb, but I didn't play Demon's Souls

How did great weapons worked back there? Everyone says they were great but everyone also says armor was useless and poise didn't exist. So... wasn't the same as DaS3? Just HA? What's the difference?
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>>153272972
What has the best poise and absorption /wgt ratio
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>>153266275

What is this, NG -1?
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>>153273436
No I was asking what the fuck people are talking about when they say "ABS%".

>>153273684
Hyper Armor ""like DS3"", but no retarded two-hit system. Plus many of the Ultra weapons caused knockback.
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>>153273185
depends on which absorption value your concerned with or how important you consider some in comparison to others. Things like the ragged mask have almost twice as much physical absorption than their weight (and around three times the elemental absorption), while things like Smoug's have half. That doen't mean you should always use the mask though, since you might have room to spare with bare minimum vit. There's a minmaxer app:

https://3dots.github.io/ds3optimizer/#/optimizer
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>>153273746
He's weak as fuck to magic. With 40 Int you only have to hit him like four times with an MLGS, in NG.
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The spaces physically hurt me.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>153273758
>ABS%
armor absorption removes a fraction of the incoming attack damage. If you take an attack that deals 100 fire damage and have 30 fire absorption, you'll receive 70 damage. Static defenses are just flat subtractions. I don't know which one comes first in the calculation, you might subtract then divide or divide then subtract.
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>>153273964
It's none of that.

It's a system that makes a 690 AR GA hits for 350 but a full 2kat combo hit for 900
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>>153273964
Oh, hm. So filling every armor slot for that extra 8 defense or whatever it is for helmets isn't a huge deal?
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Any FC's on PC? Getting pretty sick of Pontiff area...

I'll host one if anybody is interested
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>>153273895
>worst knight
>worst girl
>worst ring description
Like poetry
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>>153274098
There's a significant bonus on your flat defense for having a slot filled with anything. Basically you can think of it like all helmets etc giving you an identical amount of flat defense regardless of weight. It's meaningful but you won't be totally fucked if you go without a helmet or something. The only other way to increase flat defense is to increase your SL in general or level vit in particular.
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>>153273895
i dont care what you say hornet rings are great when it comes to dealing with ganksquads
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Getting good at 'no scoping' pyromances is fun as fuck.
Leading targets, learning the arcs and range.
S'fun.
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I feel like a terrible person every time I anally annihilate great lance users. Poor guys with their shit tracking while literally every other weapon tracks like a heat seeking missile.
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>>153274412
Reminder that 40 points invested in vit gives you whooping 26 extra flat defense.
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>>153274412
Guess I'll keep wearing the Pyro Crown, then.

>>153274642
That weapon is so shit.
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>>153274574
I don't give a fuck about the ring. LOOK AT THOSE UNECESSARTY RETURNS

THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
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>>153273684
>everyone also says armor was useless
They're wrong, but fatrolling wasn't a good idea. People wore the shit that gave the best protection while still allowing them to fastroll (like DS3) which more often than not meant Burger King's set which gave good protection while being fairly light. You got the fastest possible roll at under 50% equip load.

>How did great weapons worked back there?
There were only 2 that mattered anyway as far as Ultras go :
Greataxe and Dragon Bone Smasher

Greatswords were dominated by Northern Regalia / Claymore.
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HAHAHAHA WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THE GREAT CLUB R2 WOULD PUNISH PEOPLE ROLLING LIKE THAT

HAHAHA LIKE ROLL TWICE NIGGA
HAHAHA LIKE CHECK THAT TRACKING BRO
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>>153273964
Actually no, the real defense calculation is a lot more convoluted than that.

Here's a chart some ledditor made that I cropped up
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>>153274826
You think that's bad?
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>>153274961
I do not know the context, but that seems like some crazy person's rantings, so it kind of seems excusable?
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>>153274946
I can't make any sense of that shit.
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I apologize for my absence. A busy weekend.
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>>153275105
>{i} {/i}
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>Could use light and heavy attacks with your offhand weapon in DaS2 on top of powerstancing
>From decides to dump powerstancing and go back to blocking with your offhand like in DaS1
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>>153275105
>"[i] [/i]"
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Wow
ultra great weapons are ez win ez game

I miss Demon's Souls. I miss the game not feeling like Monster Hunter.
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>>153275273
>>153275351
Oh, I didn't see that. Damn, i guess this shit is as bad as textbook proofreading anymore.
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>>153275298
Powerstancing, shield bashing, and super parrying were the only redeemable things about that shit heap. It is a bummer that none of those features returned.
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>>153274307
C A N O N I C A L L Y
_
B
A
L
D
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>>153275298
Is it possible to change this in an update? This is one of my main gripes with the game.
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>>153275360
>Ultras are ezwins
Oh my sweet summer child, wait until you get to pontiff crazybus
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Holy shit I just watched the ""secret ending"".

What kind of sadistic fuck gives you the perfect Firekeeper waifu just so you can watch the Ashen one stomp her face like that?
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You can't even use your attunement slots to get more uses of your spells or reduce their FP cost. Checkmate.

On another subject, remember when everyone at release thought DaS3 was put at NG-1 for the press? The game still ended up stupid easy compared to the others.
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>>153275105
>but that seems like some crazy person's rantings
You're not wrong.
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>>153275608

The same people that gave you the Maiden in Black?
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Working PS4 Emulator when?
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>>153275608
>perfect Firekeeper waifu
MiB is in DaS3?
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>>153275757

Working PS3 Emulator when?

ftfy
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>>153275757
DeS, DaS and Dragon's Dogma on PS4 when?
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r8
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>washing pole babbies shit themselves when you hug them

This is glorious. I hate myself for not knowing this sooner.
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>>153275530
That's where I've been all day.
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>>153275615
It was though. If you watched playthroughs of the press/media/YouTube versions before release, a bunch of the enemies and bosses were a lot easier, people who had played little/none of the Souls series were doing stuff like first-try killing Vordt and the Sword Master. Pretty sure there was a press release or note sent to the people who had the press version that explicitly said the difficulty was set to NG-1.

It's just that if you're an actual Souls veteran, all this stuff posed no challenge to you anyways once they returned the difficulty to normal.
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>Dusk Crown Ring reduces FP cost of spells by 25%, but reduces your hp by 20%
>Farron Ring reduces FP cost of WAs by 30% with no health lost

Who thought this was a good idea?
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Quickstep cost 5fp, with farron ring and +10 simple offhand can you have infinite free quickstep every seconds ?
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>>153275952
Probably SL150 Muslim/10
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>>153275518
You could probably bring back offhand heavies and right hands shield parries pretty easily. Don't think they can bring back powerstancing though.
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>>153275608
If you wear Dusk's set or you stomp on her with high heels
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>>153275360
they're ezwins when you're fighting against someone using ultras alright
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>AW second phase has a greatsword on fire
>farron greatsword can't be buffed
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>>153276085
im 115, anon...
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>>153276170
Muh Gwintorias

It's really a shitty boss 2bqh.
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Can you change your appearance without Sirris getting pissy with you?
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>>153275952
Would throat fuck
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>>153275924
Wait till bandai needs more souls money and port dks1 to the next gen consoles
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>>153275108
I can sort of explain it:

Basically, abs% works as it should, except, it's calculated after base defense

if take 100 damage, after base defense, with 35% absorption, you will take 65 damage.

Nobody really knows how base defense works, but there are some good rough estimates. Basically, it's somewhat similar to how damage threshold worked in Fallout NV, but much more complicated.

>If damage you receive is far greater than a certain threshold, you take an enormous amount of additional damage
>if damage you take is greater than a certain threshold, you take slightly higher damage.
>If damage you recieve is greater than a certain threshold, you take normal damage.
>If the damage you take is similar or equal to the threshold of your base defense, you get a slight increase in effectiveness to your absorption
>If the damage you receive is far less than your base defense, you gain an enormous amount of damage reduction

something like that. Nobody actually knows what the thresholds are, but people can figure it out using maths and what not.
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so I need that +5 luck from 15 hollowing

is it possible to get it without using yoel's free five levels or am i doomed forever
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>>153276085
>Muslim/10
I'd let her blow me
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>>153276275
would've been better if there were more than 3 abyss watchers.
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>>153276302
I'm not proud, but I'd fucking buy the fuck out of it. Preorder, midnight release...
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What should I build for a spear based PVP build? I want to SHOVE my spear in some faggots face
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>>153276334
Huh.
Whatever they are, they're too fucking low. Or straightswords do way too much damage.
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>>153276470
Quality with a Greatshield preferably.
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>>153275924
This
They could literally not change a thing and I'd be fine with it, I just want an active community again.
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>>153276470
dunno but make sure to use the drang spears
shits are annoying as fuck to fight agaisnt
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>>153276470

Quality.
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>Finally start playing Bloodborne
>It's literally Dark Souls: Penny Dreadful Edition

Tell me again why it isn't frequently discussed here?

Also, am I retarded for being able to rip Rom the Vacuous Spider and The One Reborn to shreds without much trouble but struggling to beat the Amygdala?

Granted, he was a joke when I found out his weak spot, but it took me a few too many tries to figure it out
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>doing Elana as pure caster
Fuck, I didn't realize she was so resistant to everything
Even my sorceries are barely doing shit, and she's weakest to those
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>>153276657
>Tell me again why it isn't frequently discussed here?
It's two years old and has its own general?
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>>153275924
>yfw they add in the sixth archstone in the remaster
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>>153275924
>no Dragon's Dogma on PS4
>Monster Hunter online on PS4 is Japan Exclusive
>Dragon's Dogma online is Japan Exclusive
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>>153275980
Do it with a shield, even better
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>>153275952
succ/10
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NG+ fight clubs are the best
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>>153272160

We know that in Ariamis' Painted World we can find everything that is forbidden

We also knwo that Priscilla is a kind being

So the question is: did she lock herself in Ariamis by her own decision, or did Seath locked her in?

Let me explain: Priscilla's soul share the same description of Moonlight Butterfly, both are Seath's creations, so could it be that Seath locked her in Ariamis becuase he doesn't want that anyone will find that he created a kind being??
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>>153276767
It fucking hurts, man.

>>153276758
I dare not dream such a lofty dream, for the crash back to reality might kill me.
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>>153276126
>If you wear Dusk's set or you stomp on her with high heels
Fetish list updated.

List of fetishes that From directly or indirectly is pandering to :
>Vore
>Feet
>Monstergirls
>Scat
>trap fetish
>scalies
>giantesses
>transformation (both into a dragon and between genders)
>trampling
>bondage
>rape
>tentacles
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>>153276068
The boss not the bonfire
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>>153276857
What has NG+ got to do with it?
Why is zwei uninfused?
Why are you encouraging duel faggotry?
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>>153276745
Why does it warrant its own general? It's a -Souls spinoff, to the point where it's a Dark Souls Victorian reskin
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>>153276904
I'm pretty sure Miyazaki visits 2ch and /b/ from time to time.
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>DaS3 DLC DESTRUCTO DISKS
>magazine description says they have the same shape as the symbol of the Way of White
>spell probably found inside the Painted World
>Way of White in DaS3 is associated with the Deacons
>bearded NPC found in the Cathedral of the Deep

Is it implying that Aldrich has been searching for something in the new Painted World? Perhaps a pale looking girl in hiding if it's not Yorshka or Priscilla?
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>>153276904
I don't know about all this gay shit but I'll tell you what fetish From gave me:

Fucking witch hats, man. Goddamn I never knew how much I loved witch hats until Yuria.

>>153276998
PCuck drama and spoiler aversion.
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>>153276991
>Infuses zwei
>Calls me a faggot

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>>153276904
Don't forget TG
The instability frames while running suck but this glitch has me turned on foremost
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>>153274716
and to add to your point, some of those 26 flat defense additions come from increasing your base SL. you'll get around half of those 26 points by leveling any other stat, so you're really only adding 13. That's why people fill their armor slots.

>>153274946
That's weird, but they're using things like RoSP and the bloodring which don't show accurate values in PvP.
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>>153276470
https://youtu.be/UPEvhZeDc6w
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>>153276334
The threshold thing is just reddit's screwy math not really understand what they're seeing.

Attacks have a minimum damage they cannot be mitigated beneath. No matter what, if you take a proper hit, you'll never take 0 damage from it, no matter how high your defense is. This minimum damage is a % of the weapon's raw damage, so if you have a weapon that deals 100 damage and you have 115 "defense" (the stat to the left of ABS), you'll take the minimum damage. This is the same defense system Fromsoft use in Armored Core 5 and its sequel. As far as we know, "defense" is a straight up flat reduction to incoming damage. If you take 1000 damage in a single hit and have 100 defense/0ABS, you'll take 900 damage. Numbers only get funky when raw damage is low enough to hit minimum damage post-mitigation.

In previous games that used this defense system, minimum damage was a completely case-by-case basis and unique both to each and every weapon, and following general patterns along damage types. We don't know if that's the case in DaS3 because as far as I know there's been no real substantial testing, but the general rule of thumb has been that minimum damage is roughly 10% of raw damage. This is why when you have something like the drakeblood greatsword that doesn't actually have enough elemental AR to overcome a player's flat defenses, it still does some elemental damage anyways. It's just floored to the minimum damage threshold, whatever that actually is.
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>>153276857
There's not much better in a video game than a comfy FC
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>>153277080
>PCuck

Fair enough, though I will never understand the fanboy-faggotry that prevents people from buying a console with games they want on it when they have the financial means. It's confused the hell out of me since the days of the Genesis
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>>153276423
It would've been better if the didn't get stunlocked so easily.
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>>153276559
Spec heavily into Vit.

60 vit and havels will pretty much halve any phyiscal damage you take
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Is Ludleth just really short or are his legs cut off at the knee?
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>>153275608
It would've been better if she stomped you.
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>>153276998
>Why does it warrant its own general?
Because the PS4 players wanted their own exclusive club. Anyone saying it was due to PCucks clearly hasn't been here long enough to remember Sony fanatics wanting to establish their own secret treehouse away from "filthy pcucks and xniggers" even before Bloodborne was out.
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>>153276904
Don't forget femdom and snuff since these can literally kill you with a kiss
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>>153277282
You can see it right in this thread, man. Or the last one.

>>153262795
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>>153277392
Why there isn't more art of her beautiful stomping tools?
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>>153276657
bb is alright but i prefer souls desu famygdala
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>>153277267
I'm the type of faggot that will reward the overall winner with a juicy payday of souls by letting him kill me
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>>153276998
Because when it was actually in this general the threads were spammed by so much consolewar shitposting that actually discussing either series was completely impossible. And I mean serious spam, threads would cap in under an hour because of how many extra posters there were, all from /v/, that didn't even play either game but just wanted to force an artificial shitstorm.

The general split let both series get discussion without being used as a toilet for bored underaged
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>>153277392
HHHHNNNNNNNGGGG
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>>153277260
I don't know if bosses in DaS3 have absorption, but I used CE to have my weapon deal a raw 10 000 damage to bosses and most of them could reduce my damage by 3-4k.
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>>153273456
They stack

>>153277260
If the defense is similar to ac5 then heavy armor might be the best. Because high defense was the best by a long shot in a very. To throw point everyone was using the same exact build.

And if you tried using fast light weapons it just plinked off dealing extremely little damage.

There's probably some breakpoint in this game as well where once you get enough defense and absorption smaller weapons become useless
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>>153277260

>In previous games that used this defense system, minimum damage was a completely case-by-case basis and unique both to each and every weapon, and following general patterns along damage types.

That's because the attacks of weapons or at least classes of weapons had attack modifiers for each attack that varied depending on what they were. It's why the hits of twinblades in 2, especially Santier's 2HR1 post-nerf, hit for much lower then what the AR explicitly says they are along with the BKGA post-nerf in 1. Testing in 3 shows however that there are no attack modifiers in place so all raw damage is calculated the same, it's why a 500 AR Carthus CS is the same as a 500 AR halberd for basic R1s.
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>>153276657
Its way more Lovecraft then whatever your on about.
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>>153273456
>While I'm here then what the fuck is the difference between Absorption and defense?
Defense reduces damage taken by a certain amount, then absorption reduces the remaining damage by the percentage shown.
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>>153277431
I'll admit, I was a hardened veteran of the Console Wars during the PS3/X360 era. Then I got a job and remembered it was all stupid bullshit, like the elementary school version of me thought back in yester-decade
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>>153277584
I'm not sure if boss and enemy defenses work the same as player's. There's always a very significant damage variance (and weapon-to-weapon inconsistencies) when testing vs the drakeblood guy in ADP and enemies that don't use player stats.

They probably cheat a little bit with pve enemies.
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>>153276904
Mind break
Incest
NTR (implied, people are degenerates)
Corruption
Necrophilia
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>>153265586
how much att should i go on a 60 int sorc build?
what about a 30/30 pyro build?
i'm one of those autists that likes to make a purist build for each archetype and am having trouble managing the stat spread for the casters because of mana being a factor
pic unrelated
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>>153277841
>They probably cheat a little bit with pve enemies.
Absolutely. I mean you can see that instantly by trying the Caestus combo or such a thing. At the very least the way they deal with hitstun is different.
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Can anybody help me with Grand Archives? I need to get there from Dragon Barracks, but the thought of going solo bores the hell out of me.

PC. NG+. SL 120. Password: dsg
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I MAY BE BUT SMALL, BUT I WILL DIE A COLOSSUS
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>>153277282
>I will never understand the fanboy-faggotry that prevents people from buying a console with gameS they want on it

Emphasized the important part.
The PS4 has only one game for me which is Bloodborne. Everything else is either crud, multiplat or doesn't interest me. A Demon's Souls remake would make me more willing to shell out the cash for it.

>when they have the financial means
A PS4 is pretty expensive when you're paying your own bills. I have a PC because I would've had to have one to do school / work stuff on anyway and it can play everything decently without exclusives. I'm going to get a PS4 because I'm a Soulsborne fanatic, but I don't enjoy the prospect of getting it since it doesn't have DeS or any other games worth buying(unless NiOh is an exclusive). And I've heard bad things about Bloodborne's replay value and PS+ is raising prices again. And Playstation 4.5 on the way(I'll fucking riot if they'll have PS4.5 games incompatible with the PS4 and get From to make an exclusive for it).
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>>153277710
Side note, I am rather hype for the new Call of Cthulu game. It looks very Bloodborne-y, at least at first glance.

I dig gothic horror, it's not done enough now. It's got a certain campiness to it that is lacking in more contemporary stuff.
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Reminder that Gwyn fucked Nito that's why the Nameless King has a skelly face.
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So which was better, /dsg/?

http://www.strawpoll.me/11109506
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>>153278046
I really want to see a picture of the CU or whatever dangling his crown over his head, with him shouting "fuck you I'm a colossus!"
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>>153274832
Meat Cleaver isn't an ultra?

I love Old King's set, reminds me of a greek bronze armor. I feel like an Iliad's hero wearing it.
Even the name Doran reminds me of the greeks.
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>>153278046
>DLC boss
>Ludleth, the colossus
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>>153277674
DaS1 and 2 didn't use this defense system. I was referring specifically to the AC games that used this system.

>>153277625
If you recall, part of the reason that build worked was because of those overpowered gatling guns whose minimum damage was like 90% of their normal damage

Aside from the fact that I suspect minimum damage is a bit more fair this time around, I'm fairly certain it's not actually possible to stack enough defense to make something like a pure physical straightsword reach its minimum damage. The minimum damage bit is more or less just relevant to the flawed testing that has been done in the past, which deliberately lowered AR relative to defense in order to find thresholds that simply didn't exist, and recorded the anomalies. Under normal circumstances, it only really becomes relevant with low-AR split damage weapons, like the cleric's candlestick.
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>>153278078
If you have the financial means to afford a ps4 then a ps4 is not too expensive.

Also no one wants to read your long ass post. Either get one or don't faggot
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>>153278078
You're not the only one who works and pays bills here. I'm just saying that if you can, why not? What's the point of making money if you're not going to use it? Sure, squirrel away cash, but there's a point where it's silly to do so, especially if you're living comfortably.
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>>153278161
Gwyn's theme since MLGS is practically a meme made by FROM
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>>153278153
>NK is his son with Nito
>Gwynevere with Witch
>Gwyndolin with Seath
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>>153278078
>inb4 mad and jelly Pcuck
I am mad and jelly about Bloodborne, I'll readily admit that.
And it's not like playing Souls on the PC doesn't have downsides : DS3 is an atrociously poorly done port and the online has a lot of hackers. If you happen to have a PS4, it's definitely the best platform for Soulsborne games (although Dark Souls 1 / 2 were better on the pc with the dsfix because despite the shitty port, the framerate issues were shit on the PS3 as well)

Overall the games are made for the Sony consoles and it shows, just wishing they ported the first games into the PS4 to better justify the paid online for Souls players who got it for Bloodborne.
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>>153278014
>This fucking guy

Apparently there's a way to go into Old Yarnham without aggroing him, but I didn't find it
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Gwyn's theme playing during Soul of Cinder's second phase was fucking gay. That whole fight is retarded.
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>>153278280
The gats were strong but they were the only effective light and fast firing weapon. No other Gattling gun was viable.

Also I didn't specifically mean the gats were a problem. But the rest of the armored build. The reverse joint legs. The ke core and everyone using a battle rifle or sniper rifle because it was one of the few weapons strong enough to punch through the defense of most builds
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>>153278410
>Gwyndolin with Frampt
>Priscilla with Seath

ftfy senpai
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>>153278252
I thought SoC's current avatar was Ludleth's corpse, since he seems to be the most recent lord
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>>153278161
Gwyn's theme, I'm the sort of faggot who appreciates callbacks, and the Moonlight Greatsword is in every From game, so it doesn't count as much
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>>153278579
Yeah that was the problem with the number balancing in that game. It was far too easy to stack enough defense to make most weapons reach their minimum damage, and the vast majority of weapons did absolutely trivial damage at their minimum. Meanwhile one weapon reigned supreme because its minimum damage was far too high, essentially making it an unmitigatable monster.
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Any FC going on?
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>>153278741
Yes, Klin, put signs before SoC
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>>153278539
You could kill Darkbeast Paarl and take the shortcut into Old Yharnam from there. Then talk to him without him flipping out.
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>>153275298
I seriously question why they did that. You can switch to and use a shield so fast that, if you intentionally have a weapon in your offhand, you probably intend to use it as an actual fucking weapon.
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You guys are making me miss AC5...
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>>153278726
I hope you aren't talking about the gats still because they got nerfed and only did ineffective damage vs the cookie cutter build and everyone switched to only using sniper or battle rifles.

And a few meme plasma builds here and there
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>>153278623
>Gwyndolin with Frampt
>Gwyndolin was an primordial hydra in the making
Thank god based Aldrich rid us of that abomination
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>>153278410
Maybe he fucked 4 Kings to produce Yorshka, that's why she's all pale like a ghost and thin as shit.
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>>153278887
I dropped it long before the gats got nerfed because bamco withheld the patch for months and I couldn't be arsed to tolerate that broken mess any longer. VD was the first AC game I never bothered to buy, in no small part due to my disgruntlement with V.
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>>153278818

Pass?
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>>153277439
Desert sorceresses were pure masturbation aid.
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>>153279091
Try guesing, I'm abusing your inability to press ctrl + F
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Why do they suck so much
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>>153279179

Then I guess I just won't show up then dickcheese. Find didn't find shit other then some faggot trading
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>>153275952
>FUGS/Faith
Ayy
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>>153279287
Because there is none
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>>153279274
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>>153278883
I wish from could Balance multi-player better.

>tfw I was a top ranked Ravens and on the leader boards

I think I'm still at least top 50
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>>153279309
looks ballin anon
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>>153279185
Because you're bond to become a farmer with a boring pointless character development nobody asked if you use them.
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>>153279116
>DaS3 doesn't have any erotic enemies or clothes
Fuck miyazaki, he hates fun
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>>153279274
Her knee is missing.
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>>153279419
>>

More like none red signs mirite?
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>>153278451
>that image
Why don't we do events anymore?
I miss 2013...
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>>153279185
because quicksteps won't save you from mindless straight sword R1 mashing. Works good against ultras if you use it smartly.
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>>153279514
No, there's literally no FC going on, no one tried to host, I just said that to try and waste your time because you were too dumb to look it up
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>>153279530

Visions of tears
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>>153276286
yes
just don't offer tongues
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>>153279530
6 years playing DaS and I still don't know how to place a Gravelord sign. Do you just place a red sign while in the GL covenant?
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>>153279473
cheeky cunt
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>>153279486
>no erotic enemies
>Dancer exists
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>>153278078
Nioh is a PS4 exclusive, friend.
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>>153278838
I didn't even sniff Darkbeast Paarl until after I killed Rom
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>>153279646
that's mean, anon
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>>153279486
Hmm Dancer ?
Despite being fully armored her movements are really feminine and sexy.
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>>153279009
Yeah I dropped it soon after because that one build reigned supreme after the patch and the patch took so long that a lot of the player base was already gone.

I got vd but only played through the story. I saw that it seemed to suffer from the same Balance issues and never played the online much outside of a match or two.
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>>153279486
Firekeeper?
Dancer?
Karla?
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>>153279898
I bully you because I want you to become a better person
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>>153278161
they used gwyn's theme, or at least the same notes, on two bosses so the appeal just disappeared
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>>153274961
>Dragon Age
>SJW-Ware
>2016
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>>153279790
>>153279917
Somehow, I forgot
But she's pretty much the only one
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>>153279696
No, you use an Eye of Death

>>153279675
It was so fun too, we had fucking Halloween events separately, a lot of stream sniping invasions, fight clubs across different platforms(not that it isn't cool that we still have fcs but we had more shit going on) , speculating about DS2 and analyzing every bit of the reveal trailers.

I'm increasingly upset that a lot of meme Youtubers have straight up abandoned DS3, it feels like DS3 was unjustly stabbed to death even though it has real quality content, I've got a lot of hopes for the DLC, but will it have enough to revitalize the community?
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>>153279696
You use eyes of death to poison other worlds.

Your sign will appear in the 'gravelorded' world randomly and will change positions based on the gravelords location.
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>>153278161
>got spoilered from a strawpoll

Wow. Good thing I bought a PS4 and BB last week to finally play that last hunter DLC kek.
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>>153279980
>Firekeeper
>Karla
Those are NPCs, not enemies. And they're hardly erotic visually. Rosaria is the erotic NPC
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I killed the firekeeper by acident on DS3 now what?
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>>153280392
Enjoy never leveling up again
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Going to make a 'Demons Souls Tryhard' joke build.

Using Gundyr's head and chest for Doran's set. With different gauntlets and leggings so the knees and elbows are exposed.

FuGS with human pine resin for the Dragon Bone Smasher with human pine resin.

Also going to have soul mass and Tears of denial for Second Chance.

Thoughts?
Anything else I should add?
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>>153279826
>Nioh is a PS4 exclusive, friend.
Okay, that's a point in the PS4's favor, then.

>>153280203
I've heard that Inquisition wasn't so bad.
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>>153280392
Rest at the bonfire and do it again
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>>153280387
Firekeeper is erotic because she is submissive
Karla is erotic because she is dominative kinda tsundere witch

But yeah they aren't enemies.
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>>153280337
>expecting not to get spoiled in the fucking DARK SOULS GENERAL when the game has been out for 5 months

F A G G O T
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>>153279274

>DS1
>BK set fits properly with player model, you literally look like the BKs scaled down

>DS3
>look like a fat manlet wearing armor too oversized for him
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>>153280504
inquisition is boring as fuck
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>>153280249
I think the series got too old to really bring the same reactions. I don't think 2 ever got me impressed any time but Ivory king, I guess. 3 fels the same, even seeing the things back didn't bring much of a reaction from me.
That's not to say sone things aren't good, but it's nothing like the first time.

>>153280504
Why was 4kings sword not a weapon?
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>>153280459
>Anything else I should add?
If you're on PC, get a stack of 99 Green Blossoms and hope that your opponent gets the joke.

>Anything else I should add?

Lucerne with Blessed weapon to emulate Mirdan Hammer with Light Weapon. Or just Human Pine Resin it to emulate Cursed weapon.

Archdragon's Greatshield
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>>153280337
>>153280645
*Bloodborne has been out for over a year

>>153280738
It was, but it was cut from the main game.
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>>153280504

>I've heard that Inquisition wasn't so bad.
You heard wrong desu but it's better than 2
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>>153280645
Well I come here since forever and still avoided any spoil concerning Ludwig's fight. Until now :-)
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>>153280668
Not to mention DaS3 BK armor gives you birthing hips. Not even Rosaria could fix that.
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>>153280738
>Why was 4kings sword not a weapon?
It was cut from the game.
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>>153280969
>implying I want that fixed
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what the fuck is this guy name?
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Does fighting Aldrich as Anri's summon have to be done before you fight Aldrich yourself? If I take on Aldrich before helping Anri, does her summon sign disappear?
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>>153281128
I believe so.
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>>153281128
>Does fighting Aldrich as Anri's summon have to be done before you fight Aldrich yourself?
No.
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>>153281085
It's T**** can't you read you freaking sack of chicken mcnuggets ?
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>>153281085
Thick, censored because shit taste
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>>153281085
I'd guess
"Thomo" or "Thoho"
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>>153280668
>>153280969
Don't forget that it makes a part of your neck clip through the armor. It's almost as if this set has just been copy pasted from DS1 without being optimized.
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>>153281085
Thoes?
Tshit?
Thole?
Tpoop?
Tfuck?
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>>153281128
No, you can do it without any particular order since he is the one summoning you.
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>>153277260
>>153277201
>>153276334
>>153274946

Can you defense experts help me come up with the ultimate tank build
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>>153277959
anyone?
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>>153281726
30 in both cases
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>>153281613
1 sec I have one
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>>153281726
24 for sorc, 24/30/35 depending on what you want for pyro
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is it possible to duplicate a character save with CE?
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>>153281798
thanks man
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>>153281371
>It's almost as if this set has just been copy pasted from DS1 without being optimized.

That goes without saying. Most recurring armors are just ripped straight out of the previous games and just them adding cloth physics into them. That's why Ornstein's helm still doesn't have the plume.
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>>153277959
i have 12 attunement because spells are complete shit and i only need one for my crystal buff, but if you have a ring slot free just use the one that gives you free slots
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>>153281873
Just copy and paste?
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>>153265586
Help me understand /dsg/, how exactly Lothric works. The royal priestess described the lands as churning and convergent, how did they end up together, is it magic or tectonics? If it's tectonic than the amount of time that must have passed between DaS and DaS3 should be measured in the millions of years.

If they're converging on the Kiln why can't we see the Kiln from Firelink all the time? If they're converging on Firelink and described as "churning" why can't we see them all around firelink instead of just the back of Lothric Castle? If they're converging around Lothric Castle why the fuck are they converging around Lothric Castle?

Was Irithyll the city we walked above in Anor Londo in the original DaS, or did it spring up sometime afterwards? If Auldritch was a native to Anor Londo, why was his Cathedral of the Deep built on the grounds of Farron? If what the royal priestess said was true than Farron was another converging kingdom, Auldritch shouldn't have any stake in the territory, unless they've been joined like this for a while and existed as some high fantasy multi-cultural globalist nightmare.
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>>153281726
You probably don't need more than 4 or 5 spells.

This isn't DS2 where having more spells was beneficial because you could just keep cycling between spells before you ran out of cast and replenishing your cast had more bang with the more spells you had equipped.

In ds3 you use the same mana pool for all your spells. So having more spells doesn't help as much.

Although I have no idea on the difference between a hard capped mana pool vs a soft cap one
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>>153281982
No I mean duplicate the save so I would have two of the same character.
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>>153281613
Just use regen

The 15 faith miracle is fine if you've got other healing items.
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>>153281919
>>153282057
i'm concerned with the slots and more being able to consistently throw out spells/pyromancies without having to constantly chug ashens
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Is Prince Lothric named after the kingdom or is the kingdom named after Prince Lothric?
Is Lothric just his family name?
If so, why isn't Lorian also named Prince Lothric?
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>>153281985
It's magic
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>>153281985
Stop questioning A-team you stupid goy. Better download that season pass
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>>153282232
less concerned with the slots*
sorry, fucked up
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>>153281613
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/72383
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>>153281613
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/72385
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>>153282216
I want a tank build based on damage mitigation not a paladin
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>TYPICAL DAS2 PLAYER
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>>153281985
Don't think too hard about it. DaS3 is what happens when you try to do DaS2's world with the area transitions making more sense, but then you realize it's supposed to be a huge continent so everything feels stappled together.
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>>153281985
>is it magic
It's magic.

>Was Irithyll the city we walked above in Anor Londo in the original DaS
Yes.
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>>153282438
might as well just use BK shield dude

71 stability 11 units vs. 69 stability 7.5 units
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>>153282503
>raw MLGS
But why
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>>153276076
Wa's aren't as good as spells
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>>153282515
>>153282312
But it's actively stopping from being immersed
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>>153281985
Honestly I think it's a contrivance for the sake of getting the zones relatively close to one another.

If you're wanting a lore explanation, I'd say it's all being drawn back to the center, possibly where it came from. As for Aldritch, the cathedral may have always been near Lothric because the Road of Sacrifices leads from one to the other. He may come from Anor Londo, but when he was alive, they kept him there because of his power and to exploit it. He was basically imprisoned there from what I understand.
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>>153282703
I don't know, Perseverance is pretty amazing.
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>>153282702
Memes, have you never twinked this hard?
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Who is the best Souls streamer?
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>>153269515
The Old Monk NPC uses Claws.
Homing Soul Mass is auto-given as Old Monk
He wears Gloom or Thief armor, can't remember.
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>>153282851
I have
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>>153282896
Lobosjr
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>>153282702
He's kinda stupid
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>>153282940
it's gloom, not sure what a good 3 equivalent would be
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>>153282896
me
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>typical DaS2 gameplay

>>153283023
>iron keep
>hardcore twinking

Your memes are weak.
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>>153282631
I tried to adapt from my annoying build that was kinda like this
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>>153282896
Best as in how skilled they are or best as in to watch?
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>>153282438
>>153282459
How much damage do I take from a UGS combo or a 2k combo?

Also why Faron ring?
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>>153282896
TRUMP
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Welp, brigand twindaggers does 80+32 damage at +2
Do you advise infusing it deep or fire ? It does 80 + 80 this way
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>>153283273
>Also why Faron ring?

To spam knife slide.
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>>153283269
To watch obviously.
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>>153283273
2k bleed combo is % damage

647 AR fugs 2-hit combo at that absorb/def will hit for about 600, maybe 700.
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Most favorite map in Dark Souls / Demon's Souls / BB and why, /dsg/ ?
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>>153283060
There's some of the bigger armors that fit aesthetically but even with the skinnest frame you still look like you ate too many New Moon grass.
Lorian's set or Outrider set maybe if the Black Phantom coloring hides it enough (I think Rosaria's Fingers get a deeper shade of red.)
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>>153283471
ya boy
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>>153283060
>it's gloom, not sure what a good 3 equivalent would be
Morne's / Executioner.
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>tfw am really enjoying the dancer blades

I don't honestly find them all that weak at all, and I'm not even optimized, I'm doing a quality build
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>>153283434
pls respond
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>>153266275
use a real weapon you magical twink
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>>153283471
Probably Peeve for me. Ruri's ok outside of the IRONBREAKERS stuff, Lobos is probably good but I'm not really into speedrunning. Cannot fucking stand Oroboro most of the time and if I can stand him then he absolutely has to be muted. Don't really know anybody else, I'm not knowledgeable on streamers.
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>trying to hit dragonland snake fuck with claymore R1s
>he dodges left to right twice evading my swings and then parry ripostes my third swing

I have never been this outplayed by an NPC, not even hodrick
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>>153283680
4-1
Sen's Fortress
Shrine of Amana
Central Yharnam
Cathedral of the Deep
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Fite club
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>>153284093
be careful though. Its L1 is pretty much parry bait.
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>>153284132
Go raw instead so you can still use resins
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Crucifixion Woods Hodrick vs. The Bloody Crow of Cainhurst

who wins?
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>>153284178
It's amazing how little the Nameless King gets buffed in NG++ compared to NG. He only gains around 10% more health.
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>>153284185
I don't think Lobos is a speedrunner though.
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>>153283471
Recently I've been enjoying 'Praise the Sun's content.
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NMS you there?
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>>153284546
Crow, he cheats (infinite QS bullets) and has a strong as fuck ranged attack he can do out of an roll that he has no problem spamming as well as using anti-healing items.
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>>153284262
>Shrine of Amana
y tho
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>>153284740

I like his duel vids where he uses shit weapons and randomly discovers 800-900 damage great lance counter hits
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>>153283471
I liked witchling151 but idk if she still plays.

I don't like watching that iskys~ guy since all he does is twink and kill pvers

Those "pillars" you guys always jerking it to are too fat and autistic for me too watch
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>>153284624
Like I said, I'm not knowledgeable on streamers. Thought he did challenge/speed runs.
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>>153284880
Is great Lance viable?

I saw Trump streaming and he was using with a tower shield
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Grand Archives Keys were a mistake

This game would be 10% better if the archives were open. 25% better if Profaned Capital connected to Demon Ruins. 50% better if there was another fully fleshed out level before the Kiln "lol just teleport twice" bonfires.

As it stands, DS3 has the worst world design in the series, including DeS (which allows any archstone after 1-1) and DaS2 (Several bosses can be your first boss).
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>>153284614
In general the bosses past the Deacons are buffed pitifully.

On NG++ I chuck a quarter of the AW's health off with one move, Pontiff feels the same, and nothing at all is remotely more challenging.
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>>153284614
probably because it's 2 stage
ng++ dsa has over 30% more hp than ng, and deals out a fuckload of damage
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>>153285045

not really it's basically a very slow spear that anyone with half a brain can reaction parry on the first thrust
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>>153285130
ng++ pontiff was harder than any ng++ for me
his combos just do so much damage

even champ is docile in comparison to pontiff's flailing
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>>153285091
The individual areas are nice though, even though the world layout is trash.
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>>153285091
Whats the issue with the keys? The way I played, I ended up just finding them next to the Archives for some reason. Do they not show up until you beat all the other lords or something? So you cant just speedrun past Dancer and fight Lothric super early?
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>>153285091
>no pvp concrete slab in the kiln
literally why
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should i really level up to 120 and stick with the meta or stay at 110?
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>>153285149
Even the dragon in the Nameless King fight is buffed by only around 10% hp from NG to NG++. In DaS2, a non-DLC endgame boss would get buffed by around 44% hp from NG to NG+ and a DLC boss would get buffed by 55%.
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>>153285548
there's endless pvp on pontiff with 120 sl
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>>153285585
>NG to NG+
NG to NG++*
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>>153285548
There's plenty of PvP from 80 all the way up to 150.
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>>153285508
they don't show until all lords are killed
meaning there is zero reason to kill dragonrider early because it's a dead end

killing dancer early gets you chunks, but you can use those without locking yourself into endgame weapon memory

>>153285585
bird's defenses must go up
i used the same weapon on it and was solo for ng through ng++, and it took a fuckload more damage in ng which you cannot explain with a 100hp difference
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>>153285548
Go 212 for proper /dsg/ meta
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>>153283680
1-1
Painted World
Forest of Fallen Gayants
Cathedral of the Deep
Dunno yet.

What's common for these levels is that they all function based around one bonfire,physical shortcuts and make use of the vertical elements. The combat in all of these environments is varied and requires you to consider your approach carefully.

I was really disappointed in Dark Souls 2 when I found out that Fotfg was the peak of the level design until the DLC and most of the levels weren't balanced well at all.
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>>153285286
What's the best long range poke weapon with hyper armor frames
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going to respec my sl120 into 60faith

is there a how to guide for choosing a chime/ talisman?
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>>153285091
Agreed.

Agreed.

Dunno about world design, it's pretty bad but I remember disliking DaS2's world design just as much.

>>153285508
That's exactly what it is, Lothric has to be the last LoC so you can't do Archives or get anything in/past Archives until the other 3 are dead. If they really, really didn't want you to kill Lothric before the others they could have just made the key go to his throne room instead of an entire level.
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Is there any reason to play DaS2? Or should I skip and go straight to DaS3?
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Spears in this game are kind of fucky, the weapon damage type on the stat screen should read standard/thrust because the R1s don't deal thrust damage unless they're right on the very edge of the weapon range

And it's not a "sweet spot" thing either, if you do the exact same test on skeletons (high thrust resist) you get the opposite results. In fact, a fully charged R2 will always deal less damage to a skeleton than a close range R1 because the R2s only ever do thrust damage.
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What's the point of hollowing in DaS3, other than Hollow infusions?
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>>153286116
Do you like falling for memes, or trying it out for yourself and forming your own opinion?
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>>153286310
Doing the quest and getting the ending achievement I guess.
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>>153286310
One of the endings. They could have made it interesting by reducing your max amount of health in trade of extra levels (and you could still revert those levels back with the Firekeeper Soul), but they fucked up.
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>>153286095
Its in the OP
But as a fellow faithfag: yorshka's chime and canvas talisman
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>>153285091
reminder that world design is kinda pointless after the 5th or 6th time

in das1 you follow the same fucking path over and over because you're used to it. nobody actually goes a different route after they've mastered the game unless they want a very specific weapon
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Is there a reason to level up beyond level 200?
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>>153286116
You don't need it for ds3 plotwise.

It's probably worth a playthrough as a standalone game, but don't do it the justice of going in blind. Look up how adp works, etc.
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I haven't played since shortly after launch. Is Longsword and Astora Greatsword still somewhat competitive or did they nerf the shit out of some weapon classes?
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>>153286584
Trying to reach Vincent levle of faggotry
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>>153286703
Both are still great. Astora GS particularly for it's rolling R1 still.
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>>153286095
>Maximum spell buff possible
Yorshka's Chime

>Maximum hyper armor possible
Sunlight Talisman

>High spell buff while still having good hyper armor
Canvas Talisman
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>>153286803
Alright thanks. Guess i'll just hop into PvP then and find out what's going on in the meta.
Also, is there a decent invasion spot now? I'm still doing Wall aka gank city.
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>>153267874
lvl 30 warrior
with Lorian's complete set and Lorian's greatsword
being wrecking squads in Undead Settlement
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>>153286095
Sunlight talisman if you plan on going up against ultra weapons with the weapon art.

Canvas talisman for the above reason, but anything other than ultra weapons, or Gundyr's Glaive.

Yorshka's Chime if 54 faith or higher for lightning blade and Darkmoon Blade.

Saint-tree Bellvine for buffing with actual buffs; it has an extremely quick cast time.
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Why is it that thrust damage type get special treatment over all others?
>actions cause thrust defense to go down
>in addition to this you get Leo ring

Why doesn't strike weapons cause longer staggers?

Why doesn't slash damage have modifiers against cloth armor?

Why doesn't fire damage have an additional short duration damage-over-time?

Why doesn't lightning (although them spreading in water is nice) cause more damage against metal armor?

Why doesn't dark cause damage debuff to enemies?
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>>153287069
Because that would be nice and interesting
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>>153286219
You gotta get just the tip, man.
Just the tip
Just the
Just
just

just the tip

If you ever played Smash, it's like how Marth is most powerful when you get the spacing just right and hit them with
just the tip
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>>153287069
what exactly even is counter damage anyway? i hear everyone talking about it but i have no idea waht the fuck it is or how it works

is it some sort of meme or something
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>>153286001
A 2H halberd-type or Hollowslayer GS's 2H strong attack.
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The little antler you get as a pyromancer is kawaii as fuck
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BOYFRIENDS WHEN
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FC WHEN?
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running a heavy zweihander build. respeccing right now. what secondary weapon should i have? small leather in other hand.
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>>153287259
Counter Hits are when you hit someone during their damage frames. If you ever lost a damage trade to a small rapier, it's likely because thrust weapons have higher counter damage multipliers than regular weapons, to make up for their low damage (and previously, low capability of staggering someone, to the point where if someone went in on you with a rapier while you were wailing on them, you would want to back away before your poise broke because you'd die before you get stunned). At least, that's how it was in DaS1 and 2. No idea how it works in 3 with Hyper Armor. Perhaps it overlaps. Maybe it doesn't. Maybe only thrust weapons get the counter hit bonus.
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>>153287813
What kinda build are you running
if STR, a Heavy longsword is always welcome
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>>153282076
Dunno if you're still there, but you can change the slot the game autosaves your current character into

Just poke around the table and you'll find it
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>>153287813
Halberd.
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Is there a single reason why there shouldn't be a merchant (say Shrine Handmaid for sake of ease) that sells Ember for 10k each, infinitely?
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>>153288205
Of course.

It's the same reason why there isn't a merchant, (say Greirat, should you keep him alive twice) that sells Titanite Slabs for 50k each, forever desu.
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>>153288451
maybe that will change with dlc
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>>153288451
I don't think the comparison is quite the same. There's no need for a massive quantity of Slabs (8 per cycle is more than enough to kit yourself out) whereas Embers should be available en masse so you can always play online
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>>153288572
Can't you invade while unembered? And get summoned? I never really use the embers because I can get embered while helping somebody else out.
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Why are Aldritch Faithful all a bunch of dickless little faggots?
I have yet to fight a single good one.
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>>153288205
>>153288572
Because Embers are easily farmable? I just got to Aldrich and I have almost 40 of the damn things. I don't even think I had this many Human Effigies in DaS2 at the same amount of playtime.
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>>153288572
Just cast Seek Guidance and then you can summon without being embered. Supposedly, I have no idea if it actually works.
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>>153288451
There's nothing wrong with there being an unlimited amount of upgrade materials.
>But there's a difference between 'unlimited' and 'buyable and unlimited'
BB had unlimited, buyable rocks without anything bad happening because of it.
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>>153288757
in my experience it's because being an aldritch faithful is a hassle
>get summoned into area
>fuck off who knows where they're running around
>usually have at least a summon
>god forbid they seeded the place
if it weren't for the fact that they actually get summoned often i'd call them the most masochistic covenant
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>>153288847
It just shows signs, doesn't let you use them unless Embered.
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>>153288816
I just realised earlier today during my NG+ run that I was carrying around 2m+ souls that I just had NOTHING to spend them on

It'd be nice to just dump them into Embers to make sure I always had some
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So why do people complain that Dark Souls 3 was being too similiar to Bloodborne? That style's been there since 1....
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>>153283680
dragon aerie for visual appeal and sen's fortress for design, the house of traps vibe is pulled off perfectly
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why is the farron offhand dagger such a shitty parrying tool
can't even recovery parry with it
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>>153288205
Incentive for online play. But even without that you should get plenty from drops and farming.
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>get all the level 2 rings for my build and the weapons i wanted upgraded
Welp, time to start a new build. Paladin or Cheeky Assassin?
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Anyone willing to host a FFA on xbone?
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>>153289484
Paladin
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>>153289484
DICK
ASS
THIEF
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>>153289545
>xbone
Just do a regular FC
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>>153289338
Dark Souls didn't have hundreds of enemies that were humanoids with elongated arms that go REEEEE and go on 9 hit combos. Chester is merely an easter egg.
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>>153289338
Nobody complains about the style but rather the mechanics and how it becomes an unsatisfying hybrid of the two.
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>>153288984
>tfw no infusion gems for sale
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Just drew this.
What does /dsg/ think?
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>>153289338

You're missing the point of the complaint, I think.

Also, Chester was pulled to Oolacile from further in the future than the CU.
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>>153289458
Maybe you should stop doing setup parries and get people to make mistakes. You're using the Farron Greatsword. It can't be fucking easier to fuck with someone. Walk up to someone and press R2, and watch their whole world crumble around them.
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>>153289817
Beautiful
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>>153289817
Very good anon, keep it up
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>>153289817
Meh, you have much to improve
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>>153289484
>paladin
DEUS VULT BROTHER
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>>153289817
It's shit
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>>153289652
I thought about it, but i want a pocket avelyn to punish setup parries and r2 chargers, and i feel like that fits a cheeky assassin better.
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>>153289818
So, what are the odds Queen Juniper is actually real?
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>>153289484
why no cheeky paladin
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>>153289828
I'm not saying I need setup parries or anything, it's just that in the not so rare occasion I get r1 spammed by a straight sword gank squad parrying is out of the question.
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>>153289817
Ebin meme
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>>153290243
Feels out of place for a paladin to be cheeky. They are all proper and grim, killing heratics and kicking peasants around and the like.
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>>153290269
nevermind they've fucked parries compared to ds1
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Is Murakumo the best GCS? The roll catching ability on this thing is ridiculous.
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What are some unorthodox but very fun PvE builds?
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>>153290084

Juniper is another name for Gwynevere.
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>>153287069
>why doesn't strike...
Strike was SUPER useful damage type in Dark Souls 2 PvE against enemies with armor.

>why doesn't slash...
I think they kinda fucked up by not differentiating the effect of slashing/strike/thrust weapon effectiveness enough but a lot of the slash weapons also cause bleed so...

>why doesn't fire...
Actually it does cause a lot of the basic Hollow enemies to get stunned more as they catch on fire.

>why doesn't lightning...
In Dark Souls 2, the players' resistances to lightning were reduced when they were in rain or standing in water. Conversely, Fire defense went up.
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>>153290720
You didn't answer my question
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>>153289654
>memebox uno
>anyone owning it
>>
pc boyfriends i don't want no xbox boyfriends
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>>153289817
I really like the feet
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>>153289338
>why do poor PCucks complain that Dark Souls 3 was being too similar to Bloodborne
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How do i condition people not to parry? I have tried by jump attacking and kicking them as they parry, which works to connect, but they still try even after 3-5 unsuccessful party attempts and my basic, mash r1 brain tells me to attack finally and i get parried. Is this a product of fast estus forcing people to burst out wins?
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>>153289817

Best ocelotte artwork I have ever seen.
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>>153270965
>long ass streak in a fc
>host plays hero and jumps in the arena while there are still two other dark spirits waiting
>dies within seconds

Poor guy
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>>153291047
Nice shitpost. People on pc wouldn't know if it was similar to BB while people who played BB would be able to notice the mechanic similarities.
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>>153290907
I can be your bf
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>>153290657
Scat enthusiast. Super good toxic resist and kill everything by throwing dung pies
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>>153291118
Yes it is
Space out your attacks, never R1 more than twice in a row
Or use a whip if you're desperate
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>>153291047
Is this always the same guy shitting on PCfags?
As an xbone fag I think you are embarrassing for trying to start platform wars.
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Man I never understood why people though 2's hitboxs were shit. Been doing a run, and god fucking hell, that stupid scorpion bitch's stinger is so bugged...
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>FINALLY land a parry on a fucking katana user because the game didn't want to recognise the other ones
>hornet ring's on, he's on half health, ez win imminent
>survives with a speck of hp
>runs away and chugs to 3/4 health even though I hit him
>an invader like me doesn't have enough estus to chug
>get ganked
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>>153291473
yes
it's literally one dude
he goes on a pcuck tirade every now and then
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>>153291390
That sounds fucking hilarious but what do you do against enemies that are resistant to poison?
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>>153291473
It got bad when the trailer came. Just wait until November/December and he'll be gone
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Daily reminder.
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>>153289817
can someone link the image?? l cannot see it for some reason
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>>153291421
Darn, i guess this is a bad place to want to be a reckless berzerker
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>>153289817
do i need a 4chan gold account to see it?
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>>153291673
It's come to a point where now not bowing is the 'in' thing to do.

We're going to come full circle in the next title where people bow just to not be like everyone else who don't bow
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>>153291673
I miss thw gfwl salty messages. Almost made up for how shitty gfwl was
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>>153291592
cry in the corner ;-;
captcha: pies
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i'm starting to think that the parrying tools are literally too fucking slow to reaction parry straight swords
and then when you fuck up the parry you get caught by ridiculous phantom range
oh lordy just fuck me
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>>153291546
This is why you always have throwing knives and Lloyd's on your bar. Unless you're in a fight club or a dueling hotspot, assume everyone is going to run away and chug at the first opportunity.
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r8 my qt boys.
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Will I get banned if I drop a Refined Gem with CE? I've been farming this shit for hours and I'm at my limit!
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>>153291871
>>153291902
Always. Bow..
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>>153290269
Then the game turns into, as it unfortunately has to be, don't get hit. I use Iron Flesh so I am able to actually sustain hits and actually do things against faster weapons, but it's a struggle. Another thing you can try is prediction, but given how some people act in this game it's not a good idea to throw them out commonly.

Another thing you could try, though I haven't done it myself yet, is to use a shield that lets you do your WA. This means you can use a Greatshield, block the first hit, and then use the FGS "WA" to parry.

>>153291118
Start using items. If you're tired of smashing them, just peck them to death.
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>>153279457
I was the No.1 Mercenary for about six months a long while ago. Felt bretty gud.
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>>153292020
Exposed elbow are inappropriate. Cover that shit up now.
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>>153292048
depends on how you do it
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>>153290657
Archer builds are pretty fun.
Then you could try a Peasant run
(Use throwing knives, whips, torches, four-pronged plow,blacksmith's hammer,machete,no weapons designed for War)
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>>153292175
Make me faggot?
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>>153292068
HONORFAGS GET OUT
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>>153292181
What's the proper way to do it??
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>>153283680
>DeS
3-1
>DaS
Sen's Funhouse
>DaS 2
Lost Bastille
>BB
Yarghul
>DaS 3
Cathedral of the Deep
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how can I not suck with a zweihander? Is it the 2h r2 that gives hyper armor?
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>>153292175
The glimpse of exposed skin is top lewd anon.
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Holy fucking shit. I can't believe how OP Dragonslayer Spear and Carthus Curved sword are.

I've been wrecking shit the last two nights, only getting beaten once in a while, but nothing like this fucking nonsense. DSS' fucking hitboxes are five miles wide and reach behind it, and everybody knows how fucked up CCS+Rouge is.

Fuck, I'm actually mad.
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>>153292048
you can upgrade items without materials with CE
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Just finished DaS2 DLCs
Holy shit that was great
Why couldn't they make the vanilla game this good
>mfw the ivory king fight
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what is the worst boss in the entirety of Soulsbourne?
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>>153292654
Covetous demon
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>>153291635
It's not that his occassional spergs are particularly annoying, I was just wondering because this looked like a single guy trying to stir shit, not a proper platform war.
Cross-platform multiplayer fucking when
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>>153292048
>I've been farming this shit for hours and I'm at my limit!
>"about five minutes but I wanna stop and masturbate to moeshit"
Mustards, everyone.
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>>153292654
Me
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>>153292614
You 100% that won't trigger a soft ban??
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>>153292654
Bed of Chaos. But i havent played BB or Des so idk. I have heard Des has some lemons
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>>153292654
There can only be Bed Of Chaos

special shoutout to prowling magus and congregation though
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>>153292654
prepatch Licia of Lindeldt
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>>153289357
>Dragon Aerie
I love the visual design of this overall area. I guess I could be kinda disappointed about the fact that the actual gameplay value is so low but the place is great for farming Crystal lizards.
The area doesn't even have a boss so you can just Ascetic the area over and over for more shit.
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>>153292654
Something from DaS2, I'm sure.
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>>153292326
Item swap
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>>153292654
Prowling Magus, Leechmonger, or Armor Spider
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>>153292447
I think the zwei's widely considered one of the worse UGS but you should have HA on every attack
I'm guessing Profaned is a direct upgrade but I never used it
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>>153292772
ive been using it with the game offline to upgrade my items and give me souls, no softban so far
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>>153292273
i don't have to, you're already one
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>>153292772
done it for my entire inventory of weapons. Never triggered a thing. I think From and Namco doesn't give a crap about cheating
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>>153283680
Das Anor Londo, doing circuits of it farming souls was always fun.
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>>153292901
DaS2 DLCs had the best bosses in the series though.
>fume knight had %93 failure rate at some point
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>BKGA
>less damage than FUGS
>uses more stamina
>deals regular physical damage

But fuck me if it isn't far more fun to use
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>These bird pyro shits in Demon Ruins
Why are they so tanky and have so much fucking poise they basically summon reinforcements whenever they want and just start blasting you in the face with fire. At least let us be able to riposte these things.
And why are Ghru here? They evolved from whatever was inhabiting Farron Woods before, you think they wouldnt like areas full of fire.
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>>153292654

Dragon God
Centipede Demon
Ancient Dragon
Defiled Watchdog
Ancient Wyvern
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>>153292654
Morne's Greathammer, Aldritch's twin brother Aldrich or Yhorm's ass eater.

Seriously speaking though, I'd say either Prowling Magus and Congregation or Dragon God. The former because the fight is a joke and the latter because it always pretty much takes a set amount of time to do, you always have to do it the same way and there's no actual gameplay to it. The visuals are gorgeous but other than that Dragon God is shit.
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>>153292654
Bed of Chaos easily. Anyone who says anything else is beyond delusional.

At their worst the other bosses might be "too hard" or "too easy" or "too uninteresting".

Bed of Chaos somehow manages to do all 3 in a single fight.
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Suggest ds1 builds dsg
pls
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>>153292654
Bed of Chaos. Literally no other boss is that foul. I believe they even straight up apologized for how shitty a job they did.
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>>153293247

Mate.

I just want to let you in on a little secret.

Wait for it.

Are you ready?

Tons of people are retarded and tried to fight it without removing its regen sources. Also failure rate doesn't mean it's good.

That said it's the best bosses in the three DLCs, but its animations and overall actual difficulty is mediocre. Smelter and Alonne are harder because they were the F2P ebin HP pool bosses.
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https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/513148
r8 my first real int build /dsg/
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>>153293437
I forgot to add "too gimicky"
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>>153292654
The Bed of Bullshit
>Run in
>Get hit by AoE that fills the arena
>Die
>Go back
>Do it again
>Get to first weak point
>Kill it
>Run across arena
>Floor falls out
>Die
>Do it again
>Go to second weak point
>Kill it
>Die
>Go for central ramp
>Get killed by arm sweep
>Get killed by AoE
>Get killed misjudging the fucking jump
>Finally make the jump
>Killed by AoE from the arena
>Do it again
>Finally get to the boss itself
>It's a fucking bug

There's a reason From didn't try anything like it again.
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>>153293437

Centipede Demon is worse as an experienced player. Bed of Chaos is thankfully cheesed.

Centipede Demon becomes the bane of your existence in higher NGs.
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>>153292654
The Ruin Sentinels alongside a bunch of other vanilla DaS2 bosses were really unfun.
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>>153292764
>old monk
>don't attack at all
>stack every possible way to heal myself and dodge non stop
>fights can last half an hour

I have become a true demon
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>>153293247
>50 end, third dragon ring and havel's greatshield

Didn't even have to roll.
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>>153292967
>Armor Spider
>Shit
He's fun to fight, fuck you. What makes him unfun?

>Leechmonger
>Shit
I don't see how anyone who gets the gimmick of the fight (every DeS boss has a gimmick, gimmicks aren't inherently bad) would think it's offensively bad. It's a DPS Race, sure, but it's not Bed of Chaos, or the Shulva Gank Squad, or the Ivory King's Pets.

>Prowling Magus
Call me tasteless but I liked it. The idea that you have to kill the clerics so they don't heal everything back away from the Magus' WoG, duck into the seats to block the projectiles, and coming back out to keep going at it was fun.
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>>153293726
>that obnoxious reach
kill me please
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>>153293651
Centipede Demon is a boss I straight-up forgot about until you mentioned it. It was so bland once you got the lava ring.

I do remember farming the fuck out of him in co-op, though.
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>>153293486
27/50 STR/FAI.
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>>153283680
>Dark Souls
I dunno. Basin I guess.
>Demon's Souls
Motherfucking Valley, man. But also the tutorial area. That little outside bit just resonates with me for some reason.
>BB
Anything Isz. Goddamn I love Isz.

>>153293247
>DaS2 DLCs had the best bosses in the series though.
A. No.
B. Even if that were true, that doesn't preclude it from also having the worst.
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>>153291756
>Be reckless
>Get fucked because you're being a reckless shit
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>>153293486
Faithdex with sunlight blade and ricards rapier
40/40 leo ring build with mainhand greatsword and offhand estoc
Siegemeyer cosplay
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>>153293651
Here we go. The perfect example of another person thinking "too hard" = bad. No, centipede demon has never been a problem. It doesn't matter if you can cheese bed of bullshit. It is a mechanically terrible and unrewarding "fight" in every way.
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>>153293554
why are you two handing, your weapons get no strength bonus
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>>153293043
>>153293007
>>153292948
thanks guys
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>>153293747
You forgot :
>le scraping spear :DDD
As an aside, this is like the 5th time captcha has something like "calle" in it. Weird.
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>>153293747
I cheese motherfuckers as the Old Monk by camping the door and hitting people with Firestorm the moment they cross the fog.

It's a monumental dick move, but fuck that guy, I want the sweet hat.
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>there are people who unironically died to bed of chaos

Summer...
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>>153293820

Lava and its damage on NG4 onwards is ridiculous. I wish they let you keep the charred ring on cycles.

On any Bed of Chaos playthrough you just walk into the center and use fire bombs in the center of the arena without being harmed. You then fall automatically onto the platform. Thank god this strat was learnt.

But ya NG only and first playthrough Bed of Chaos is the worst boss in the series.
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>>153293929
Bromeyer is a good idea, I shall consider it, thanks anon
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>>153293791
Different guy, but I didn't particularly like the Armor Spider, for no other reason than he's too easy to cheese, and fighting him fair was a slog.
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>>153285548
You're already fighting metafags at 110 so might as well
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>>153293963

see

>>153294042

quit getting mad and gain perspective retard
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>>153293984
>>153294001
I was't there to win, I just wanted to outlast and make them give p upon realising they couldn't possibly kill me
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EFF CEE
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>>153292654
Anyone who says anything besides Prowling Magus and Cogregation is delusional.

Bed of Chaos was at least threatening, and while cheap as hell, could pose a threat, shit mechanics aside. Prowling Magus and the Congregation stand around doing fuck all and die in 30 seconds. They're a proto-Deacons of the Deep except unlike the Deacons, there's no fun to be had at all.
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>>153293916
You dont understand. Its hard not to be reckless when you are using the twinaxes. It just makes me wanna chop till i drop
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>>153294308

ancient dragon
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>>153294042
I never really go past NG++. Fuck, I barely even go past NG+. You can only upgrade your shit so much, and it gets a little old hat after a bit, doing the same thing over and over
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>host and phantom protected me from the blue
The best feeling.
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>>153294293
You sorry soul. It was over before it began.
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holy shit /dsg/ I knew you were bad but jesus

>drop down to boss area
>hug the wall and go right, he can't hurt you
>destroy the thing
>hug the wall and go back to where you began
>make one (ONE) simple jump
>destroy the other thing
>hug the wall and go back to where you began
>bait the hand sweep attack
>wait for the floor to shatter
>make one (ONE) simple jump
>kill the bug

wow so hard lmoa
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>>153294178
To gain the title of "worst boss in the series" just because your shitter ass has trouble dealing with it on NG+ is beyond retarded, especially since it can be completely skipped.

Fucking imbecile.
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I liked Centipede Demon and Bed of Chaos.

In vanilla DaS, you could actually miss Orange Charred Ring if you killed Centipede without cutting off his arm. And even then, I still liked it. You faggot-ass kids and your crying.
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>>153294441

Yeah I feel the same way. I only do it once every game (other than DaS1_ and it's normally NG8/NG+7 SL1 just to get mechanically better at the game.
First person NG+ was the hardest I've played the series.

>>153294515

ok

>>153293337

there u go autist
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>>153294392
Ancient Dragon is a friendly NPC and optional superboss. He's not supposed to be fucking easy.
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>>153294308
Prowling Magus wasn't even a boss fight in my book, it was a side-show to help you farm human effigies and sunlight medals, because no one wants to go back through the upper area of Brightstone Cove Tseldora.

Also, Brightstone Cove Tseldora is one of the worst areas in any -Souls game, in my humble opinion. From the Shaded Woods to the Duke's Dear Freya is a stretch of pure, unadulterated awfulness.
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>>153294505

???

>slide down slopey slope
>run straight ahead
>throw firebomb at certain position constantly til you kill one core
>do it for the other
>stand still and drop down
>kill bug

ezier...
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>>153294505
You cant hug the wall on the one on the right after you break the first root. That floor falls in. The only one you can do is the left side wall, and then you need a bow.
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>>153294505
The post was worst boss, not hardest boss.
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>>153267407
At 120 you're so over leveled you can just do anything well. Lower levels force specialization. At 120 everyone is just fast rolling in heavy armor and throwing spells while swinging greatswords.
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>>153294785
Different guy but Ancient Dragon isn't hard, he has like 4 moves but he has a fuckton of health and his fire attack nukes like half of the entire arena.
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>>153294785

Ancient Dragon is the definition of DaS2 shockwaves.

Also his flamebreath is totally alien to how fire works in the games. One frame of HUGE damage for its entire hitbox rather than multiple frames of damage depending on how you escaped it and distance.

Also fighting it behind its legs is retarded.

Also the boss fight is so bad it is LITERALLY broken. You can abuse its AI with distancing so much and you'd never get hit. Stick certain units of distance away and you'll never be harmed without a single roll. It's so bad.
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>>153294936
it's the same thing, 'lil man
have sex
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>>153294554
Centipede Demon wasn't even memorable, though. Fuck, aside from Queelag and the Bed of Bullshit none of the bosses in that area were any good.

And who the fuck thought it would be a good idea to just take early-game bosses and turn them into mob enemies?
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>>153294868
>haha lets make a vertical level with no way to get back to the top without homeward bones or doing the bonfire, (which is down a specific cliff)first so you have to slog through it like 4 times for all the loot! Such a great idea!
>>
>it's ANOTHER "let's all hate DaS2" thread
>>
Can someone give me the breakdown on rolling and weight load in DaS3?

Is it just set points for roll speed like DS1 or is it different roll distances based on percentage?
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Funny that at max SL you have 500+ def, making even 99/99 refined SS do shit damage.

However, the Greatweapons go 700+ with 99/99 stats making them better at that level.

I think the tards at From balanced the weapons around max stats
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>>153295185
>And who the fuck thought it would be a good idea to just take early-game bosses and turn them into mob enemies?
I dunno I thought it was awesome.
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>>153295135
I only beat Ancient Dragon once, and that was with a Gyrm Greatshield, which allowed me to block two ticks of the fire, that would at that point oneshot me.

On the one time I managed to beat it, I didn't heal at all.

You cannot convince me that it's worth fighting.
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>>153295274

hi you can go to the dark souls 3 and dark souls 2 sub reddit for positive posts about dark souls 2

make sure you bring ur 120 sl fight club character with you *holds up spork*
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>>153295278
use google you fucking retard
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>>153294868
Doing a recent replay of SotfS and I came to the realisation that I was thinking "oh, man, I really dislike this area" about every area between old iron king and freyja.

That's like 5 areas in a row I disliked (though, the gutter wasn't as bad as I remember it to be in SotfS.)
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>>153295274
DaS2 had great ideas and recently I've been playing it more than DaS3 but you can't say it does not deserve to be shat on.
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>>153295331
you need all the giant souls to make vendrick take damage basically. Even with all but one he's tankier than a brick shithouse
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>>153295314
how balanced ar they at 40 on everything?
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>>153295206
>Then we'll fill it with angry spiders and casters that can hit you from multiple angles and have a high aggro range, and put both enemy types in a single, open area, and we'll have some in one of the bonfire rooms, too, because fuck you
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>>153295439
hey man, no need to be so rude. anon just had a simple question
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>>153295314
you don't get 500+ def, you get 250 def.
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>>153295331

It isn't I just kill it because why not. It's still the worst boss.

Also gyrm great shield literally blocks all fire damage in the game right? Fuck Dark Souls 2 is a joke with magic and trespassor shield.

>>153295509

The gutter legitimately owns except for the mole rats. The platforming and torches in that level are good and I wish the series did more cool levels like that.

It has free beer and cars too.
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>>153295639
wear 4 pieces of any armor
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>>153295185
It was fun seeing how Taurus and Capra have got absolutely nothing going for them as enemies except their arenas
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so what's this 66 STR meme all about? is it fun?
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>>153295278
%
0-29.99=fast roll, 30.00-69.99=med roll, 70.00-99.99=fat roll
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>>153295274
I still love DaS 2, but it had some areas that were terribly made, and Soul Memory was like fixing a broken bone by breaking another one in the hopes of using its shards as a splint
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>>153294956
120 has always been the norm kid fuck off
>if ur 120 that means you're always using spells and greatswords at the same time theres no fuck thing as pure magic only or greathammer only, etc
at your reddit metas the only thing you can do is use katanas or dark swords at base stats because they all hit hard anyways then level vig and win because everyone else not a shitter would have less vig to compensate for greater sacrifices if they want to play like a non shitter
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>>153294956
What SL would you recommend for most builds (ie Quality, STR, DEX, INT, FAI, INT/FAI Pyromancy, STR/INT or FAI, DEX/INT or FAI) to be viable without obvious imbalance towards one or a few?
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>>153295671
Yes, Gyrm Greatshield is 100% Fire Resistance.

Not only did I not heal during the fight, I did not take any damage.
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>>153267860
>Did his wife take it away from him and did this turn him completely insane?
I have a hunch this might be what happened.
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>>153295548
What is the point of that webm? Is the shitty armor of a shitty foot soldier supposed to have good stats?
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>>153295790
you only need 16 fuckin strength
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>>153295765
Your greatest enemy in the capra demon fight is the fucking camera, lol. With the dogs coming a close second.
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>>153295548

>DaS2 had great ideas

It did, but some pretty bad execution. It also had some fucking awful ideas. My opinion of the original release was extremely low, but playing SotFS honestly made me not hate it as much. It's still not DaS1 level, but it's not completely awful either.
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>>153295831
Not that anon but in DaS3 it seems to me that 90 is the highest any build ever needs to be. After that it's just gouging End and/or Vig.
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>>153295548
I honestly love so much about Dark Souls 2 but I will never stop fucking hating having your health reduced every time you die.

I fucking hate it.

>Hey, are you having trouble with this boss? Dying a lot?
>Well, that sucks because now he oneshots you because you dared to die a few times
>Oh, you want to pop an effigy to gain your health back?
>Too bad, they're limited unless you go online in a dead game
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>>153295998
>said the quality fag
those extra 10 levels are crucial
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>>153277392
"Bitch! Think you can just betray your Fire Keeper?!"
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>>153296087
>said the quality fag
Uh, no? I play at 70 and 83, and neither build is quality, or a dark sword, or a spear, or a rapier, or that other weapon you don't like.
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>>153296079

tfw demon's souls did it even harsher and it still did it better.

Though the Ember system is the best iteration of that punishing you for dying system.
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>>153295671
I wish they had made The Gutter the dedicated skeleton area. One of the more annoying parts of Dark Souls 2 is that they put regular unarmed and hollows armed with broken swords everywhere and even though the Gutter hollows have dark swords, you kill them basically in one hit vecause they have no defense. They should've utilized enemies like the Undead Torturer more to break up the lack of enemy variety. I know that Softs shuffles the enemies around more.
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>>153295274
It had the best magic, infusions, build potential, fashion, the most content of any of the souls games. It even had an honor/duelfag containment area but they managed to fuck all that up buy locking roll and attack paths, using soul memory to make builds pointless, and then taking out dedicated orbs and bland bossfights seeming peppered in just because.

It hurts because it could have been the best game.
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>>153296079
>having trouble with any boss in DaS2
>unironjcally running out of human effigy in DaS2

>>>/r9k/
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>>153295998
Almost every build type in Souls history gouges HP and Stamina outside of obvious gimmick builds like Hyper Mode. Only recently has hitting the soft caps on HP/hard cap on Stamina been considered a waste of stats.
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>>153296263
>Telsadora miners have sick super damage dark pickaxes and do more damage than their soldiers and infantry fighting against the giants.

For literally what purpose Tanimura?
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>>153295317
It felt lazy to me. The whole area felt lazy to me, to be honest.

>Lava planet
>Enemies are terracotta eggs that spit fire, downgraded bosses and dragon asses
>Basically just one long hallway
>Cool art design but nothing done with it
>One boss was so stupid you could get it to fall off a cliff in its own boss arena
>One was a reskin of the tutorial area boss that used fire attacks, but was weak to fire
>One was a bug in lava
>FPS dumped every time you went into it
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>>153296360
>Only recently has hitting the soft caps on HP/hard cap on Stamina been considered a waste of stats
And I've been saying 27 Vig and 19 End is enough since day one.
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Hosts should be forced to use estus like DS1 to heal their phantoms.
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>>153295790

It's about having 99 fucking strength when two handing
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is miyazaki a hack
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>>153296079
You never played Demon's Souls, did you
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>>153296079

I think the incremental hollowing was the best thing about the DaS2 system, especially the visual effect of becoming more and more zombie like.

DaS3 hollowing seems retarded and pointless.
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>>153295831
I like the jap meta, only because everyone goes superhuman. Quality is now quality + buff or hollow, casters get to infuse and use many weapons, str and dex can get fast rolls, damage from quicker weapons starts to fall.

The only problem is that some of these still remian weaker but because of general imbalance. At no level in the game at all is Warrior not the best class and the only other build is vitgouge for low levels. It doesn't really matter which range you PvP
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>>153296456
>19 END with any greatweapon
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>>153296393
That's because it was rushed at the end of development. Even Miyazaki admitted that he wasn't satisfied with it.

I was just talking about the Capra and Taurus demons becoming regular mobs.
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>>153296393

Reminder that the chaos eater silly things were the very first iteration of the main artist wanting to design Lovecraftian monsters. [t. Designworks]
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The Lordvessel is not your soup bowl!
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>>153296079
I hated the health mechanic the first time I played DS2 but I kinda like it now a lot. The ember system was imo better overall but I liked the gradual hollowing mechanic versus the one in DaS where it doesn't affect jack shit aside from making you look like beef jerky.
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>>153296456
And at 90 I can have 50 and 22 while still hitting my damage stats' primary soft caps along with ~25ABS.
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>>153296672
I do ok with Farron Funsword at 19 End.
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this is pretty fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kr7KDCsIws
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>>153296613

I dislike every game's player model/textures except for DaS1. BB's and DaS3's skin textures are awful and the DaS3 hair is worse. DaS2's player model and faces look like Chinese bootlegs of Frozen.
DaS1 editor is stupid to use but it was so satisfying when you got it right.
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>>153296691

What would it be like if DaS1 got a rerelease where they got to finish everything they wanted?

I can only dream...
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>>153295871
It's supposed to have some reason to use it. Couldn't it have weighed less, or something? Fill some sort of niche? What's the point of gear if it can be obsolete? Especially in a game with SM, where every investment you make is counted against you.
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bfs where
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>>153296830
And so advocating for a meta lower than 120 is bad, why?
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>>153296972
Give kissu
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>>153296858

also the hollow texture in DaS1 is ABAP
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>>153295317
They utilize the Taurus Demons and Capra Demons in the worst possible way though. Usually Dark Souls enemies are placed in a fashion where they supplement the level design by acting almost like an extension of the level. The way they used Capra and Taurus Demons was to stick a big blob of them into the open with no care to their placement.
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>>153296858
What are you talking about the textures look fine in BB.
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>>153297294
Why is this so blurred?
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>>153297018
i will if you host
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>These jumpy literal facefucking Ghru
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
ITS LIKE THEY GAVE AN ENEMY QUICKSTEP THAT ALSO KICKS YOU IN THE HEAD
Their only saving grace is that they always try to grab you again after they do it the first time, leaving them open to probably die. Fuck their jumps though.
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>>153296908
IZALITH
PLEASE
MY DICK
>>153297018
im taken, sorry
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>>153297294

They're both blury and greasy. Though they still look good at angles.
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>>153297287
izalith was a wreck all around and so were the demon ruins
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>>153297294
But in all honesty you really have to try to see that.

>>153297294
That's just what the skin textures look like on the shoulders.
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>>153295831
>>153295819
I do all my pvp at level 50 or so, before pontiff.
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>>153297527
But w-why?

>>153297472
No!
>>
Damn it.
>>153297576
>That's just what the skin textures look like on the shoulders.
Meant for >>153297427.
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>>153297576
Can I kiss your character?
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>>153296697
The Chaos Eater enemies were fine.
>>
Why is the skin color of my character around the mouth always a different color from the rest? How the fuck do I fix this?
>>
>>153295560
>Vendrick
>An issue
I know this is cheese, but just stick to his left leg behind him. All he will try to do is sideswipe you, which you can roll out of or just walk away from. LITERALLY cannot hit you if you put in the slightest bit of effort to mind your positioning
>>
>>153297894

Ya I wasn't insulting them I just think it's funny he got to design more of them for Bloodborne.
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>>153297506
>mfw swing too late
>grabbed
>chug
>fuck it up again
>grabbed
>chug
>fuck it up again
>scream
>no fsce
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>>153297823
Post the screencap of /bbg/ getting married
>>
>tfw my character ended up ugly

I won't be able to find any pc bfs when I start joining fcs...
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>>153298024
What screen cap? I want to see this
>>
>faggot named vertigo at pontiff duel arena using estus during fight
>gets oneshot by my sunlight spear because muh 27 vit
>>
>>153296950
you can find and wear it in the second area of the game.
>>
I wanna make a new character for the DLC, but don't want to go through the hassle of doing a int/faith build. What are some fun str/dex builds to do? Haven't used much outside of Greatswords in DaS3 yet so I'm open to whatever.
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>>153296691
they're regular mobs because they climbed up out of there to the undead parish in the first place
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>>153297906
>>153298025
Ragged mask
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>>153298125
Found it.

I'm scared one day people will actually have a guy dress in priest clothes, give each other a ring of favour then use dark hand near Pontiff
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>>153298242
*vig fuck
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>>153298247
>>
why did they make invasions so fucking soul crushingly difficult?
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>>153297294
>>153297576

CUTE

HUNTRESSES
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>>153298338
Kek
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>>153298398
because from cares more about the people that play the game once and shelve it, than people that play 200+hrs
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>>153298025
Just be yourself cutie and attend or host FCs for us
right now would be great
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>>153298398

Tanimura got ganked in DaS1 and DeS.

He will make DaS2 and DaS3 invasions non-existent in return.

Even BB had better invasions against co-op and lots more nightmare areas thanks to DLC.
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>>153298415
fuck i miss bloodborne
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>>153298520
I'm not level 120 and I haven't beaten the game yet, please be patient
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>>153297823
Uh,
>
>>153298415
Danke.
>>
NEW THREAD
>>153298632
>>153298632
>>153298632
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>>153297527
i want this
i need this
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>>153298245
Yes, but in previous games every piece of equipment had some point to it. If something had no positives whatsoever, it turned into something better. Even shit like the Plank Shield had the benefit of being lightweight or using less stamina in parries. The Infantry set, which is fashionable as fuck and something you have to buy, is obsolete by the second level. That's not fucking good at all.
>>
>>153298646
>>153298415
>>153297576
>>153297541
>>153297527
>>153297294
avatarfagging is against the rules fuck off
>>
New thread?
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>>153298840
>>153298840
>>153298840

NEW THREAD

>>153298840
>>153298840
>>153298840
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>>153296979
The lower you go the better physical is by comparison. The higher you go the better hybrid is by comparison. The point of a meta is to find a level where neither is distinctly favored and where the SL works for most builds (some have extra levels, some have to skimp a bit). People can always PVP at whatever level they want and have the most fun with, I sure as shit didn't build most my characters with a meta level in mind. If people are trying to find a meta level though then it's not just an issue of what works for your build or what you personally have more fun PVPing at. Honestly it may not even be possible to find a balanced meta level for DaS3.
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>>153298398
You are just used to winning basically every invasion in the other games. Hosts fucking suck. The invader disadvantages weren't enough to offset the invader skill advantage in the previous games.

Still, there are too many seeds and the invader losing souls is just From being a douchbag.
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>>153298338
I wanna get in game married ;-;
most people can't see past the nose though. Beauty is not just skin deep
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>>153298829
>post 1 (ONE) image
>of the in game character no less
>avatarfagging
go be a sad fuck somewhere else
>>
How can one be a dickass their against enemies who can't be parried?
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>>153299267
Bleed
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>>153299267
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri0kmuyec1Q
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>>153298720
Every game had some items that were straight up better than others. DaS 2 was actually pretty restrained with this. For instance, if a weapon in DaS 2 had bleed, it would have lower base damage. Compare with DaS 1 where the morning star was strictly better to the mace etc etc etc. Then again, I don't quite get why the hand axe was so devastatingly superior to the infantry axe.

Anyway, I definitely think it being easier to access is good enough. Didn't the varangian set have a really low drop rate?
>>
Jesus Christ dude, Orbeck has a fat ass.
Never noticed before.
When you meet him in the woods and he's standing up it looks like he has a bigger booty than the Dancer.
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>>153300514
Morning Star was useless, what the fuck are you talking about. It had a full 70 less AR all for shitty bleed that it would never get off.
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