/dsg/ Demon's/Dark Souls General

In for autism.
And poise

>>152876294
What are the longest reaching weapons with hyper armor?

What weapons can break hyper armor the quickest?

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>>152876395
delete knife ear

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Reposting because I'd like to hear some of the general's opinions:

Did Das1 or DaS2 have the best dragonbros, at the end of the day?

Das3 cetainly didn't.

>>152876625
DLC

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fashion posting time

what armor and weapons are you gonna carry into the DLC?

>>152876625
To me DS2, better rewards imo and the BD Armour looked better than the dragon form to me

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>>152876567
Sh-shut up.. Just because she has sharp ears doesn't make her an elf.

So why is dark souls 3 considered shit?

>>152876693
Gonna b rolling w Fallen K***ht Armor mostly to trigger /dsg/ and plebbit but also to compare it to the non-fucked up one.

>>152876762
this isnt dark souls

>>152876757

That's how I feel too, although I also feel you have to give DS1 credit for actually turning you into a dragon versus the (admittedly awesome) dragon armor of 2.

>>152876693
Twin Prince's Greatsword, Dragonslayer Spear, Avelyn and Wolf Knight Greatshield to turtle behind.

Nioh is better game than shit souls 3 can ever hope to be.

The demo alone implements a better NG+ system than the what the hacks at From Shitware could ever come up with.

Nioh has better mechanics, more depth, and better graphics than the turd that was spewed out to pander to casuals.

Take notes from the better game memehackazaki, because your time is over.

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>>152876693
This setup for my first run
Will occassionally switch between GSoJ and Swordspear

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>>152876393
>>152876395
What's going on, /dsg/? Last thread had a retard arguing that the skill ceiling should be lowered for idiots such as themselves, then there was the cunt calling us all out on our completely healthy admiration of the two-dimensional form.
Just now, there was someone doing the whole "lol DaS2, amirite" shit, and here we are with two unrelated pics to start the thread.
Is this some kind of incredibly lazy, non-speciifc one-man raid?

>>152876814
It's too linear. Dark Souls 3 will be good if the DLC areas connect areas from the base game together.

>>152876814
Summed up in two words?
>muh poise

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>>152876824
No, it isn't, but it is a game that gets compared with Dark Souls a lot for some fucking reason even though they arent similar at all.

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Post old fashion.

>tfw none of these armor sets will ever be in DS3 despite how excellent they looked

>tfw drakeblood made the cut but they neutered it as a dex weapon.

>>152876965
New content news means /v/ floods the thread and shit like this happens for the next few days

>>152876938
100% agree. That demo was amazing

>>152877032
>turbo nerd booty rustled because he can't do the bosses in his special autismo order

>>152876625
das1's dragon did more damage but was pretty useless outside of hypermode runs thanks to 0 defense, 0 bleed res, 0 poise
das2's dragon armor was more functional and had some good element defense but the stones were pretty useless except as a badass victory shout

>>152876693
something underpowered but fun, like reinforced club
don't want to go in and cheese it all

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>>152876693

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>>152876965
Just /v/ coming out to shitpost because the trailer attracted more people into our hugbox.

>>152876938
>.10 cents have been deposited into your account

>>152877067
>1 int
Shit I miss Dark Souls 2 levels
>ADP
nvm

>>152877107
Go back to CoD corridors faggot. Oh wait, even the newest CoDs give more options than shit souls 3. Lmfao

>>152877107
>faggot

>>152877107
You're missing the point shitposter-kun.

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>>152876965
Too lazy to upload on another thread

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>>152876938
I wonder who could be behind this post

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>>152877107

>wanting to proceed through the game in a different order to obtain build items earlier/before other similarly-tiered items

>a bad thing

???

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>>152876814

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>>152876693
My broken armor.

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>>152877208

Yep. I love DS2 for the invasions and endgame/dlc, but the early game of pumping your agility to a comfortable level is always annoying.

Not that it keeps me from replaying, just annoying.

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>>152876693
Going back to my trusty Old Wolf Curved Sword for that from my first run. Don't know about armor though, hopefully there will be something neat available early in the DLC.

How is the OWCS now anyway? Haven't played in a few months.

Is Reshade safe to use in DaS3 or will I get VAC'd?

>spent the whole week looking forward to this patch so I finally had an excuse to start a greathammer playthrough and make a strength build based around them
>patch drops
>the buff was absolutely fucking nothing
>nothing about them changed
>they're still the worst weapon class in the game
>there's absolutely no point in doing that playthrough now
Fuck. I was stupid for having any faith in from.

>>152877225
>>152877246
>>152877252
>>152877317

If you don't want to play das3 then go back to your faggot mobas, card games, and call of duty or dead ds1 and BB

Dark souls 3 is literally the best vanilla dark soul in the series and is ONLY going to get better with DLC

>>152876938
>coming to a indo-somalian tapestry weaving post office to shill your generic witcher/dark souls/DMC ripoff


Seriously, are you even remotely trying?

>>152877432
The levels themselves are way better than the ones in dark souls 1 and 2. And that is what matters the most, the level design.

>>152877208
I maintain that anyone that complains about ADP doesn't know what they're talking about.
It's a different balance, but that doesn't make it bad.

>>152877056
Dude, fuck off

Go avatarfag in your general, not this one

>>152877165
>>152877316
>>152877601
soulsbabbies on suicide watch

>>152876757
The dragon roar takes out your whole stamina bar though.

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>>152877513
i think its still pretty good, the hottest meme is to use it on your offhand with fast weapons because its buff will apply to any weapon as long as its equipped
i think that's stupid though

>>152877513
Probably the worst curved greatsword
It can combo into its WA for more damage than just an R1R1 would do, but its AR is so low compared to other Curved Greatswords that it only barely approaches their damage with this special combo, and its singular hits (eg. running attacks) do almost 100 less damage.

It's perfectly fine for pve though.

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>>152877551
>Dark souls 3 is literally the best vanilla dark soul in the series
Do tell.

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>>152876938
>Peasanstation 4 exclusive

Into the trash it goes.

>>152877650
Not to mention the bosses are a million times better.

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>>152877551
>butthurt about people criticizing DS3
I think DS3 has the best content out of the games but the linearity IS an issue and Memeahacki himself said that he was displeased with it. I think that the DLC might rectify some of the linearity issue but it's not going to magically fix everything.

>my weapons have perfectly accurate hitboxes
>enemy can frontstab from across the map

>>152877812
It's better than ds1 vanilla and ds2 vanilla was the shittiest

>>152877665
>played DS2 first run after DaS1 and DeS
>ADP
>don't level it up because doesn't seem important
>"this game is hard as balls, damn Tanimura"
>level it up next playthrough
>the game instantly becomes garbage
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW WHO WOULD'VE FIGURED?!?!?!?!??!?!!!!??

Not even talking about Soul Memory
Only good thing about it was powerstancing

>B-but m-muh agape r-ring!!1!
A poor attempt to fix a poor game

>>152877826
Best exclusives. Only a fool would deny that. Bloodborne alone is worth the price, especially now that it costs less.
If only there were more. I'm playing too few games.

>>152877672
>implying
I bet you enjoyed No Man's Scam as well.

>>152877903
You can say it's too linear. But you can not say it's a shit game or that it's not the best in the DS series because that is just wrong.

>>152878001
dwgr makes das1 hot garbage too

>>152878079
ds3 is a fuller game requiring more from the system
also
>not playing on PC
digging your own grave there bud

>>152878079
Is this a bannable offence? I'm pretty sure you can be banned for this

>>152878094
>deflecting with Strawmans
Lmfao
Soulsbabbies LITERALLY BTFO

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>>152877650

Not when you've played through the game more than a few times trying out different builds/end soul levels, and start to crave some sort of variation as you grind through the game to complete your build and play pvp for an hour before remembering that DS3 invasions suck dick.

>>152877665
Man, I love DS2, but AGI simply didn't do anything other than eat up 20 or so of your early level ups to get you functional.

>>152877650
How are the levels better? Once you get past Irithyll, the level design is Skyrim-tier.
>get to the end of the level
>here's a shortcut back to the entrance
Post-Pontiff Irithyll, The Dungeon, Profaned Hallway, Upper Lothric, The Archives: they're all pretty shit.
And the Kiln is just a teleport to a completely pointless buffer area, then a teleport to a short walkway to SoC.
Add to that the fact that everyone was expecting a return to DaS's vertical world design, and you have a linear, boring disappointment that front-loads its best couple of levels in the first few hours.

>>152876625
DS1 dragon stones > DS3 dragons stones >>>>>>>>>>> shit > DS2 dragon stones.
DS1 ones gave a shitload of damage per roar.
DS3 ones can insta-guardbreak a lot of shields.
DS2 one can't do shit and its armor is horribly inefficient weight/defense wise

>>152878132
Nice job at moving the goalpost! Keep it up!
DWGR is not a stat you fucking imbecile and you need to be under 25% equip load to have more i-frames

>>152876625
fuck dragons

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>>152877067
Where is it Miyazaki
I want it back
What have you done with it
It better be in the DLC

>>152878236
>triggered

>>152877840
Pontiff, Dancer, Nameless King and Soul of Cinder.
Everything else is either a bore or a chore (and Nameless is a chore because you have to deal with his turkey/ camera phase every time)

>>152878319
>change stat
>become invincible

>change equip
>become invincible

>somehow different because my brain is full of miyazaki's cum

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>>152878079
>60 FPS on PS4

Do you get paid for this?
I can't think of any other reason why someone would deliberately show how retarded they are.

>>152878132
I wish there were a dwgr in DaS3, it's fun.

>>152878079
>he's still shilling
Keep it up and you might be able to eat tonight.

>>152877942

You could invade in DS2 and fight 1-2 guys.

You also got blueberries on your ass 24/7 once you became a wretch, which was a fantastic feature that didn't come back for some reason.

I like invasions, and being invaded. DS2 let me invade, and then be invaded.

DS3 neutered invasions to the point where you simply have to be a better player than three to four other guys combined and hope to god they don't have a seed.

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>>152876693
Gonna be playing the DLC with the same faith build I first beat the game with, plus I'm liking this new fashion I came up with recently

I've been using blessed Lucerne and Leo Ring in duels for as long as I can remember, but I'm not sure I'll use it for the DLC since it'll most likely do piss-poor damage on NG++

Luckily Wolnir's Holy Sword still does pretty good damage so I'll probably just use that along with the boomerang miracle once I get it

>>152877665
All agility did is increase the soul level people like to pvp at, and make early game annoying because you have to pump ADP

>>152877942
>>152878106
You're not explaining why it's so good.
Levels are linear and not fun to replay, and it has a few strong bosses, like every game in the series.

>>152878454
>and hope to god they don't have a seed.
and sometimes it doesn't even matter because some enemies will attack you regardless

>>152878454
And you also got sent against players 100s of levels higher than you if you won too many pvp fights due to soup memory.

Stop acting like ds2 was good on release. When you likely didn't even play it in release.

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Currently playing DS3 for the first time.

I've been exploring the Undead Settlement, and I've reached two bonfires after following two different branching paths. One that's next to a bunch of undead throwing bombs on a roof, the other just behind an area with a giant cannon/arrow launcher.

Which direction is the "main" route, and which is the diversion? I don't want to miss content.

Also, Partizan or Spear?

>>152878270

?

DS2 dragon armor gave you very respectable defenses for how light it was.

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>>152877942
Do you have any ARGUMENTS that support this notion or are you just going to say "X was shit, Y was good!" ?

>>152877650
>The levels themselves are way better than the ones in dark souls 1 and 2
That's debatable.
All of the Dark Souls games had good levels and bad levels. What you prefer is your own choice, but generally it can be said that there were shitty levels and good levels in all of them.

However, in my personal preference while I'd say overall that the encounter and level design in DS3 sometimes was better than in the earlier games (for example, I think that Lothric Castle was the best castle level in the games), there are some elements in the level design that I didn't agree with in DS3.

One was the amount of bonfires. I didn't like how they put so many bonfires into levels and it made them feel very cramped when you had so many bonfires in a level when you could've done with just the physical shortcuts. Or sucking out the challenge out of a level by making the gauntlets really short so I don't really get that.

Catacombs in DS3 was imo the inferior version compared to DS1 catacombs+ToTG. Irithyll was a really nice touch though, as it gave us a tour of Anor Londo in the city part that we didn't get to access in the original game.

Cathedral and Grand Archives are probably the best levels in DS3 because they follow the DARK SOULS design formula of basing unlocking progress around physical shortcuts instead of bonfires every 10 feet.

>>152878454
I got and still do get plenty of invasions in DaSIII.
In DaSII, I was very rarely invaded, I remember my first playthrough had zero invasions.

>>152877671
You are so fucking mad.

>>152878634
>DS2 dragon armor gave you very respectable defenses for how light it was
It gave you shit compared to good robflynn setups.

>>152878270
The entire dragon armor of das2 weighs less than havel's gauntlets and gives as much defense as Havel's Armor (not the set, the armor only)

>>152878270
>DS2 one can't do shit and its armor is horribly inefficient weight/defense wise
Factually wrong

>>152878654
the ??? on the map is just the sunlight altar, right?

>>152878654
>(for example, I think that Lothric Castle was the best castle level in the games)
Don't know if you've played demon's, but IMO boletarian palace beats lothric castle.

>>152878079
>Ni oH also runs 60 FPS on PS4 while still looking better than Shit Souls 3
Bitch I'm a Sony fanboy and I know that this is bullshit

>>152878454
i never was invaded in ds2 past release

>>152878407
You need to be under 25% equip load
Dark Souls 1 allows 2 rings, 1 if you were to use that ring
Dark Souls 2 allows 4 rings and 4 it is because ADP works the same but doesn't waste a ring slot

I'm not defending DS1 here. Because chainstabs are still a thing, I'm just trying to say that ADP is a pointless feature and basically a dumpstat and makes the game piss easy

Also you're fucking retarded

>>152878610
partizan, gotta have that sweep attack

>>152878610
They're both important routes, as to not spoil anything.
Partizan.

>>152878610
The bonfire near the arrow launcher is on a path that leads to an optional boss fight, but it's highly recommended to do since it gives you a key item that lets you transpose boss weapons.

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>>152878607

I preordered it and had the season pass

And you reminded me of another thing in DS3 that sucks ass: no infinite upwards invading.

DS1 and (to a lesser 'simulated' effect with SM brackets) in DS2, you could invade ANYONE who was a higher level than you, no matter the difference. So if you wanted to gimp yourself and try to minmax the shit out of your character at Sl80, or 125 or wherever, you could.

In DS3, you can't do something like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BxL3XNAS2g

It just ain't right.

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>>152878001
>>152878259
>>152878536
Agility affects different things for different builds.
>mage gets agility with attunement, balances cost of pumping two stats for magic users
>tanks don't pump ADP because they need to pump Vit and Str for armour and greatshields; they don't roll, so they don't need it
>fast characters pump ADP so they can roll, mid-character4s put some into ADP, some into Vit so they caqn tank and block hits, but roll when they need to
Now, that one anon was right: this does inflate the PvP cap, but it's also a pretty interesting system that changed the way leveling was balanced across the classes.

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>>152876693
still not sure which character to take, but might take my mage, since I'm hyped for that frost magic
if so, one of those 3 fashions

How are the lengths of the thrusting swords?

I know the Estoc is the longest, but how are the others?

>>152878941
>You need to be under 25% equip load
that's super hard when you get havel's ring in the literal first area of the game.
>Dark Souls 1 allows 2 rings, 1 if you were to use that ring
see above, also bear in mind that you have to give up damage or health stats to invest in adp early, and with the cost of rolls, you could probably be killing yourself either way. stop sucking miyazaki dick and pretend you're not a dastard

Post confessions.

I beat Ornstein second, chopped off Kalameet's tail and beat Gwyn without parrying, but I cheesed Capra Demon with Dung Pies and cheesed Manus by shooting arrows at him from outside his arena.

>>152878634
Yeah, IIRC it was only outdone by Llewellyn for straight defense/weight ratio and being the second most efficient light armour in the game is still a pretty good accomplishment.

my god

>Invaded by Yellowfinger Heysel
>Barely win
>Invaded by a watchdog literally a second after
>Invaded by Fat Artorias immediatley after
Jesus fucking christ give me a break. Fat Artorias lived up to his name by chugging all his estus but still only had like 600 hp so that didnt get him very far

>>152879064
I bet they wanted to make it all go on dex but they thought something along the lines:

>hey why are we making dex do this much when we just nerfed endurance to the ground
>yeah let's make another stat for that

>>152879231
I cheesed my first playthrough of DS3 with Dark Sword R1 spam

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>>152879294
fucked up my pic

>>152879231
I always had an easier time killing Ornstein second than Smough. Mostly because I find Smough easier to kill in the first phase-

>>152876965
le /v/ army has arrived
DLC announcement was a mistake

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>>152878845
I'm familiar with Demon's.
One of the inherent strengths of Boletarian Palace compared to Lothric Castle was that it had longer gauntlets and there was only 1 "checkpoint" per defeated boss but 1-2 for example consisted of basically just that long-ass bridge (and the jail where Biorr is held).

1-1 is a pretty great level as is 1-3 with it's long segments, but overall as an area, I think Lothric Castle is better since it has a lot of interconnectivity within the area(that you make almost no use of since the level relies too much on bonfires), the area has more of a vertical element to it(you can feel the ascension, you fight on rooftops and uneven surfaces, you can see the end of the castle the moment you step into the level etc.).

Boletarian palace is great (in fact, one of the reasons why Lothric Castle is great is because it takes so much after Boletarian Palace) but I think it's overall as a whole a bit too linear and lacks interconnectivity. If we're judging the areas just going forward constantly for the first time, I think that Boletarian Palace MIGHT be better, but the fights in Lothric Castle are imo superior to BP.

Overall I think Lothric castle is a better and more consistent whole than Boletarian Palace, but I'm also counting Consumed King's Garden and Grand Archives as part of the level so there's that.

>>152879064
This. Most of my strength builds could only function at the meta level because I left my AGI at 89 instead of going to the recommended point. 3 or 4 less iframes were compensated for by the fact that I could stuff aggression by trading with my big fuckstick and made it dangerous to try and rollcatch me, and it allowed me to pump enough END to effectively use my weapon.

If I could cut off 5 iframes from the DaS3 roll in order to access another 10 endurance or vitality, I would do that in a heartbeat, because ultras straight up just need that stat less. I hate the fact that I'm stuck with a DaS1 DWGR roll built in to every character while my favourite weapons are all slower than they were in 2, and with a new, worse netcode that penalizes rollcatching with anything that isn't a long-reach curved sword.

>>152878941

Quick, name good rings in DS1 that aren't DWGR, Hornet, Leo, Chloranthy, or FaP!

Now name the two rings which are the BiS for almost all builds!

DWGR and FaP!

>>152879064
>>152879148
>implying DaS rolling speeds and iframes changing with equip load wasn't good
Well now I hope you're glad that DaS3 has literally just two rolling speeds you absolute fucking DaS2 cocksuckers
Go back playing your dead game

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This set deserved some love. Trident Dancing invading in Depths was fun and parts of the set fit into plenty of fashionable outfits. Alas, the stats were so, so bad.

>>152879231
I've used Black Bow of Pharis, so, so much on my first runs.

I can't bring myself to play anything other than QUALITY.

>>152879092
There are other thrusting swords?

>>152879231
>Get into DaS
>Friend tells me that Capra will make me cry and that he was stuck on it for a month
>Beat Capra first try
>Same with Manus
This is the only time he's ever been genuinely angry at me. Artorias is a harder fight than Manus for me, but I'm okay with that because it's one of my favorite fights in the series.

As for confessions, I still summon NPC's for Pontiff and I can't parry for shit. Don't know why.

>>152876693
>>152877717
when are you finally going to post the sliders for this bitch

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>>152878610
When you get to the tower where the arrows are being launched from, get Firebombs and throw them around the corner at the archer so he doesn't throw you off the building.

>>152879231
I used collectors edition to """edit""" 30 concords just so that I could platinum the game.

I haven't used any other weapons apart from rouge'd lmao2kat and blessed caestus since the 2kat got buffd.

>>152879671
>implying you're not going to use those anyway
dwgr doesn't work on tank builds
Also hornet is a way better choice if you're not fucking retarded

>>152879064

I'm not saying I dislike the IDEA of Agi, just that I think it was handled poorly.

Agi should have been increased by several different stats with several different intensities.

STR gives some, ATN gives more, DEX gives a goodly bit; something like that. So that you didn't have to go out of your way to level for Agi and instead had it increase as you level and decide your build.

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>>152879848
Sasuga From.

>>152879231
>played first game in co-op with a friend, co-oped many bosses including O&S with him
>cheesed Manus with arrows
>cheesed Gwyn through the stalactites
>co-oped roughly one third of DaS2
>played DS3 completely solo but offline

>>152879231
I exclusively invade with a carthus rouge'd hollow CCS twink because I'm not good enough to beat ganksquads with anything less meta. I consider it my responsibility in an invasion to be as much of a shit as physically possible and I know exactly how edgy that sounds. Dark Souls is my outlet for being edgy because I'm a manchild

>>152879231
I died to Manus maybe 20 times before I tried to cheese him. I bought 200 bolts and spent half an hour shooting them at him only to die 30 seconds after I started the fight. I gave up and summoned a guy to beat him for me.

>>152876693
Going as a trusty Black Knight with BKUGS unless something changes between now and NG+7 and mobs just fuck you without dps

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>>152879848

>>152879490
>budding green blossom

Why do you cheat like this

Why does everyone cheat like this, PC and PS4 alike

Fuck you it's just +2 stamina per second

>>152880350
>why can't you just let me win wahhh

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>>152879231
I autistically always have to have at least one "proper" playthrough where I play as the default character and essentially be the "poster boy" for each game. I.e Oscar of Astora for DS1, Faraam + dual spear and sword for DS2 and default Knight for DS3. I don't feel like I'm playing the game properly otherwise.

I don't know why I do this. I do it in the Fallout and Elder Scrolls games too.

>>152880350
You can buy BGBs anon, Sirris' thing is just a seperate, unique BGB that has a different item stack
You can see that his BGB has the regular icon and not Sirris'

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>>152878816
Yes.

>>152880350
just a little selfbuff against CSS and other meta stuff :^)

>>152880476
>You can buy BGBs anon
not really

Are miracles worth the investment in DaS3? I found a tome and I can buy a weapon buff, but for that I'd need way more faith than I have now.

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>>152879072
why left one look like sponge meme

>>152880350
Because rolls are massively under costed and actually attacking is putting yourself at a disadvantage, let him use them if he'll play aggressive with it

>>152879695
Just because DaS3 screwed the pooch with its caualised
>two-tier rolls
>lack of upgradeable armour
>poise as situational invincibility with an on/ off switch
isn't a reason to shit on DaS2 for trying to diversify build leveling. From had four previous games to get this right, but they seem to have ignored virtually all of the minor advances they made while making DaS3's systems.

>>152880532
Huh, must've gotten it confused with something then, my bad

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Healfag (>>152858937 >>152823441 >>152824529) here.
Finally got the sheckles for warmth and recalled that I forgot about some healing methods earlier.
Note that besides the instant healing miracles, none of these scale, so they will work exactly the same for you as they worked for me.
I hope someone will find this useful.

should I try to have this pic put somewhere in the DS3 OP pasta?

>>152880476
You can't buy them. There's one purchasable Blooming one (sirris') and ~3 lootable ones per playthrough. Everything else needs to be farmed from spiderladies or, in the case of faggots like this, spoofed via savescum trading.

>>152879092
>>152879774

Please respond. I don't want to use an Estoc, and am also only going to 40 Dex, not invest in Str.

>>152879231
First playthrough of DaS was a sorcery build. I thought I was hot shit for beating Gwyn by spamming soul spears while a summon held his attention.
I've played every game dozens of times but only ever beat Manus, Fume and OOK once each, and only by being ridiculously overleveled.
I've never beat Ivory King or 2kat solo.

>>152880140
>I consider it my responsibility in an invasion to be as much of a shit as physically possible
That's nothing to be ashamed of. You're keeping the spirit of invading alive. Faggots need to learn the hard way that invasions are NOT duels.

>>152876625
DS1 had the best because you could actually float the claim it was a dragon. At least the head. That's pretty fucking tragic.

DS2 saw that gimp winged shit and figured they just wouldn't bother because it wouldn't look good. Personally I would've preferred if they tried anyway and just given us that cool dragon armor on the side.

DS3 dragon form devs should lose their jobs.
I'm not even joking, at the very least the idea guys should be fired. Anyone with that shit tier level of fantasy romanticism doesn't belong in any fantasy game. I would even hazard that those responsible actually hate dragons, fun, and video games in general.
I feel like some sorry shit tried adding the giant floating dragon head in an attempt to recover, but that shit just made it look goofier and uglier.

>>152880612
I didn't know that the instant heals actually scaled
Do we have a scaling ration for HP/spell buff?

Also, Blessed Weapon's HP regen actually does scale with spell buff

>>152880550
Faith never recovered after the DaS2 nerf, unfortunately.
Magic in DaS3 is kind of shit: you're better off leveling to whatever you want to stop at with a standard melee character, then respeccing at Rosaria.

>>152880550
p-please respond.

>>152880612
>Lingering dragon weakens spells.
Not at all. At least not in PvP. In PvP you can only cast spell at the start of the battle, when you're at max hp, so it's beneficial to have regen that lasts longer than regen that heals faster.
If you're super MLG you can even swap the ring after getting hit.

>>152880782
The HP/spell buff ratio for instant heal miracles can be found somewhere on one of the wikis, I remember seeing it.
Are you sure Blessed Weapon's HP regen scales? None of the other regens scaled, and that regen is pretty weak for something cast with a yorshka's chime +9 with 60 fth.
I'm sure that its damage doesn't scale, so I assumed nothing about it scales.

>>152880973
end game miracles @ 45 FTH are pretty good

>>152881081
IIRC its
1/s if you dont meet the catalysts reqs
2/s if you do
3/s above 50 faith or something

>>152879064
I personally liked ADP mainly because I prefer playing with a smaller HP bar but higher defenses for roughly the same overall amount of survival (the screen looks annoying when over half the top of it is taken up by that red bar compared to the much smaller amount of stamina). I can understand how annoying it would feel to everyone else, but it still felt more balanced than being either over or under 50% or 70% as the only difference.

Not that that matters in DaS3, what with armor only being useful for fashion, and rolls eating so little stamina.

>>152879231
I enjoy using DMB falchion (DS1) and DMB Sellsword twinblades for invasions..even if they don't match my playstyle but they just make everything so much easier

>>152881081
>Are you sure Blessed Weapon's HP regen scales?
According to the wikis, it gets 1hp/s per 50 spellbuff to a maximum of 5hp/s with 250+ spell buff. The base is 2hp/s because no chime goes below 100 spellbuff unless you don't meet its requirements. Still, at the max scaling it can only heal a total of 225 HP over its tragically brief duration. At requirements, it only heals 90! HP across the full duration, which is a goddamn joke.

>>152881339
I literally only use CMW sellsword for PvP and try to combo bait people
i just cant win against the meta weapons otherwise

>>152881452
I only use them for invasions tho, I'd get my ass beat if I were to use sellswords in a pontiff duel, unless I'm against some braindead parry spammer, then i'd just spam the WA

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>>152880782
>>152881197
just tested it, you were right

>>152881725
Wowza, what a difference!

>>152879072
The one on the right with the Sunless Veil

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>discussions about des, ds1, ds3 or bb: mostly civil with occasional shitposter here and there, fans can point at flaws of their favorite games
>discussion touches ds2 in any shape or form: thread instantly devolves into a shit flinging competition mostly coming from ds2 fans unable to see any flaws of their favorite game but shitting on all other ones
Can we create a /ds2g/? Please?

>>152881321
Pretty much. I complained about it harder than anyone else in the beginning, though.

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>>152881786
Miyazaki couldn't make a bad game if he tried

>>152880973
Some of them are. Sunlight Spear at point-blank is a nuke so powerful it makes the japs shudder in fear

>>152879231
I know this is a huge disappointment for /dsg/ but I like vaginas.

Please don't get angry at me.

>>152880973
Weapon buffs at their base requirements add as much damage as a resin. They aren't worthwhile unless you have made a huge investment in faith up beyond the softcap and into the territory of 60fth.

The same is true for damage-dealing miracles. Basically, anything that scales with your faith is worthless unless you dump a huge stat investment into faith. That, and most buffs don't work in pvp. Basically the only miracle worth using is tears of denial, which takes 15fth.

>>152881862
More like people that can enjoy the game despite its glaring flaws point out when people give it an unduly hard time.
And let's not pretend that DaS3 is perfect, here: the amount of shockwaves and teleport grabs I've encountered in my latest run-through of DaS3 alone is is shameful, but that shit never gets brought up because
>muh A-team.

>>152879231
I never beat NK without summons. Fuck the first form.

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>>152876294
Which game had the best Drake segments?
I think it was DS3 because the Ancient Wyvern was a really neat and 3-dimensional drake segment. Without that, I think the honor would've gone to Demon's Souls.

>>152882507
DaS3 PvP as far as I know is being directed by Tanimura
So that makes sense :^)

>>152882630
>as far as I know
A great way to preface that you've just made something up

>>152882630
Tani is in charge of balance
From's netcode has always been fucky, wich is one of the major grievances troughout the series

>>152882630
Never mentioned the PvP, but sure.
Source, by the way? DaS2 and DaS3 have such drastically different feels and directions, so that's surprising.

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>>152882739
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/dark-souls-3-director-talks-franchises-legacy-poss/1100-6441636/
Get blown the fuck out yet again DS2 tard.

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>>152876693
with the quality one hollowslayer +8 and avelyn
for the int one just the goj

Anybody need help with a boss in DS3? Farming Sunlight Medals, PC, dsg'd up!

>>152882894
Never once it says he directed PVP, only that he's a codirector, which makes sense, considering his design choices in areas match, DaS2 dlc and DaS3 have similar designs.
I suggest you take miyazaki's cock out of your mouth and read the articles you post.

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>>152880350

>>152882894
Fair enough, but balancing means things like the decision to nerf the effects of certain rings in PvP, not the core mechanics.

>Get blown the fuck out yet again DS2 tard.
I'm trying to be civil here, you cunt, but you're coming off as no better than some 16 year-old console warrior.

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>>152881862
?

I acknowledge that my favorite game in the series has a TON of flaws in it. But here's the thing:

I prefer a bad/flawed game that tries to innovate to a good/okay game that doesn't.

DeS innovated, it spawned the franchise as we know it.

DaS innovated by taking the base mechanics of DeS and making altogether new story with it.

DaS2 innovated by deviating from DaS in almost every conceivable way, introducing things like powerstancing, adding more unique 'special' moves to weapons like Bewitched Alonne Sword, and yes, the addition of Agility and Soul Memory.

DS2 at launch was a mess, and it took about a month or so to start figuring out why. Buffs/buffstacking made physical builds obsolete, Vitality allowed havelmonsters to fastroll, phantom range plagued the game, but was especially concentrated into weapons like Santier's Spear, NG and NG+ were segregated, etc. Shit wasn't good. So they sat down and starting patching the game. It took a while, but somwhere around the release of the Crowns DLC the game had recovered into a very good state. The flaws were still there, but tamped down so as not to be as prevalent/noticeable.

Which leads me to why I love DS2 so much. It got gud. By the time the DLCs were done and SOTFS was announced, the game was just good. It had insane weapon variety, loads of different builds, and impeccable fashion. DS2 fucked up more than DS1 and DS3 combined, but it also improved itself more than either game ever did.

>>152882630
>Still better than DaS1's shitfest.

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>>152882625
>enter fog
>wyvern roar
>intense boss music revs up
>shields up kids!
>carefully poke around few attacks while figuring it out
>wyvern jumps off the platform and dies
o-ok

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>>152883164
Explain.

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>>152883208
>and yes, the addition of Agility and Soul Memory.

Yeah, nah. You have to be baiting here.

If I removed all textures, replaced all sound files with 8-bit, and made it so the game was blindly bright, would you applaud my "artistic vision" for "going boldly to a brand spanking new area in game design"? No you fucking nigger. Soul Memory was a way to attempt to stop twinking that just ended up being so god fucking awful that everyone else got brutally raped in the process.

I don't think i've ever gotten mad at someone having an opinion before but "Soul Memory is good" is an idea so fucking horrid that I put it on par with most genocides.

>>152883359
It's showing the number of seconds, accurate to the 2nd decimal point, that it takes the stamina bar to refill (at whatever endurance level that is) with those buffs.

>>152883359
>whaaaah Budding Green Blossom is cheating whaaaah!!

>>152883434
Oh, I get that.
What I don't get is why budding green blossoms, which are Elizabeth Mushroom-tier limited, only recover stamina ever so slightly faster than the variant that you can farm/ buy hundreds of.

>>152883595
because miyazaki couldn't make a bad game if he tried

>>152883465
No the cheating point was that theres only 3 BGB's per cycle + the Sirris one
That means the original anon has most likely cheated in BGBs

>>152883595
Because fromsoft is actually well aware that people will spoof/mule/CE in limited items and took an effort to balance them so that they couldn't be abused that way. That's also why you can only carry one DB at a time.

They fucked up and forgot a few, though, like Siegbrau.

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>>152883420

Where in my post did I imply that Agility and Soul Memory were good things?

They weren't. But they were added to the game, so I added them next to the other things.

Agility and Soul Memory are the two biggest remaining issues I have with DS2 at this point in its lifespan.

But I will always prefer a dev doing something that could blow up in their face to just redoing what was done before.

DS3, to the best of my knowledge, brings exactly two new things to the table: equipping covenants to an item slot, and restricting multiplayer along weapon reinforcement. Every other feature of the game has been shown before.

DS3 isn't a bad game, nor does it have very many flaws. But it's lukewarm, and doesn't bring a goddamn thing to the table over DeS, DaS, DS2, or BB.

>>152883727
Or just traded

>>152883420
>If I removed all textures, replaced all sound files with 8-bit, and made it so the game was blindly bright
What the fuck are you talking about, you fucking crouton?
Soul Memory is an annoyance, but it doesn't kill invasions like everyone thinks (the game even tells you what areas are active for your SM range), and the arena doesn't give you any souls at all, so you can PvP there forever (just like at Pontiff's!) if you're not one of those clowns that abuses the 10k a shot hexes, like some cheaters with infinite hero souls do.
Although they probably backup their saves, like any sane person would.

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>>152883208
I think DaS2's problem was the environment design. Forest of Fallen Giants and Drangleic Castle were p. good and the DLCs were great, but it feels like as far as the encounter design goes, they didn't really understand for a large part as how to make combat encounters interesting without using a large number of bodies. Or, because FotfG / Earthen Peak / Shrine of Ameme shows that they knew how to do it, they probably just half assed most of the other levels and due to the levels being bad couldn't make the enemy encounters interesting either.

>>152883836
While thats very possible, i think we all know that no one here would go through that much tedium of having a friend trade all his 9 BGB's at NG+2 and constantly savescum and repeat for 2 hours

>>152883842
>but it doesn't kill invasions like everyone thinks
Yes it did. DS2 was never an active game for pvp interactions outside of signs and arena. I was never invaded past my very first playthrough because there was no point in invading at all given how much advantage DS2 gives to the host.

>>152883802
Agility is fine, see >>152879064
At worst, it makes the early game a little harder for dedicated tanks, or people that don't know how to leel mages, but that's it.

>>152883836
>implying he didn't have 699 of them and just used some
kek

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>>152883949
i did
twice
ps4 and pc
come at me

>>152883919

Yep, enemy placements were very lazy in the original game, no doubt about it.

SotFS did a pretty neat job of fixing most of those throwaway spots up, thankfully, but it's a shame they didn't just change the base game when they did.

>>152883465
yeah
it is, you can't get enough of them to use them at pontiff's

neither can you use fucking siegbraus both of which he has hotbarred

scum, no differing from DB mulers

>>152883802
>Agility
>Bad
Now i agree about SM, but i think that agility is pretty gud. If you're bad at rolling, you pump it like a little bitch you are to be able to win.
If you're good at rolling, you'll never need more than 88. So you can put those points into something else.
It's literally a mechanic that rewards being good at the very basics of the game.

>>152883963
I started ng+ up a while ago, and I was getting frequent invasions. That's what happens when a Souls game gets old|: the die hards stick around and only some of them will have the patience to fuck with ng players. Same thing with DaS: I have ng+ characters, and one sl1 invader for sales.
>given how much advantage DS2 gives to the host.
The lack of estus for invaders was a pain, but DaS3 takes the fucking cake for host advantage.

>>152883965
>>152884164

Call me a puritan, I guess. I suppose I just really like equip breakpoints being the decider rather than a stat.

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>>152884058
I guess thats fair

>>152883949
Wouldnt take that long with 2 people, considering it's exponential

>>152884241
>DaS3 takes the fucking cake for host advantage
No it doesn't.
>soul memory
>finite orbs you need to farm or increase your sm
>cannot use any switches, open 90% of doors or operate 90% of elevators
>cannot phase through any enemies effectively locking you out of parts of the levels
>seeds
>cannot heal with consumables while host has 10 types of them 9 of which go to 99 stack
>host and his butt buddies are able to turtle in warmth which is even harder to punish than estus in ds3
>even if host dies he won't lose his souls because 90% of playerbase is rocking ring of sacrifice you can repair
>invasion time limit
>npc phantoms with 5k hp and infinite spells everywhere in sotfs
DS2 had by far the most extensive list of player disadvantages and everything bad that happened to invasion mechanic in DS3 is a result of applying shitty DS2 mechanics to it.

>>152883949
The trick is you trade back and forth, thus exponentially growing.
Foir example, I trade you 3 and then savescum, now we both have 3. Now you trade me your 3 and savescum, now I have 6. Now I trade you my 6 and you have 9, and so on.

After a few passes you end up with a massive, exponentially growing stack that you trade back and forth and end up maxed out in no time flat.

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>>152883965
>They don't roll so they don't need it
>DaS2

Yeah.

I guess they'll just block constantly since they'll just get guardbroke-

Oh

Well maybe they can poise-

Oh.

Well perhaps all that vitality that everyone else gets-

Oh...

>>152883963
???

I do nothing BUT invade in DS2, since people typically being out the cheese in arena due to the stakes of ranking up their covenant.

My favorite spot is the first bonfire in Eleum Loyce, usually very active with 1-2 phantoms accompanying the host.

>>152884265
Fair enough. I didn't like how some of my characters' fashion in DaS was tied to Havel's ring, but it is a simpler system without being too "streamlined".

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I feel bad about how demons as a race turned out. Lost Izalith getting rushed so much really hurt their development as a race, and we never got much of a look at what they were or couldve been. An entire race of sentient creatures just snuffed out with little to no attention to their struggle. They just fade into the depths of history, recorded as monsters because they were just put in a bad spot.
Reminds me of Nito.

>>152884419
>>152884409

Can only trade 10 at a time though

>>152883802
Actually i think that the biggest problem of the DaS2 PvP is backsteps. While they work fine with fast weapons, they make ultras completely unviable. You can literally backstep ultra's r1 on reaction and hit it in recovery before it can cancel it into anything.

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r8

>>152884429
> guardbroke-
>DaS2
Lol.

>>152884610
Yeah, it's one of the worst. Right near the horrible network hit detection, worst in series.

>>152879092
Irithyl and Crystal Sage are decently long. I think ricard's is slightly longer than rapier but shorter than estoc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ6v7gxxyrI
good ass pvp

>>152884138
as the webm shows us it is making literally no difference

Stop being triggered by this

>>152884676
>it's a "I add just one piece to a set and call it fashion" episode
5/10

>>152883434
no, it's frames

>>152884741
Nah, hit detection is annoying, but it's perfectly possible to work with. Just a minor annoyance for an experienced player.
Also has anyone compared the average hit lag in DaS3 to DaS1 and DaS2?
Backsteps you can do nothing about.

>>152880612
What's your max health pool?

Summon someone with Max hp while you wear miracle shit and see what happens

>>152884941
DS1 had the smallest hit detection lag problems, DS2 had the worst. DS3 is in a middle.

>>152884772

Hmm, it's a tough choice then. Ricard's and the regular Rapier have similar damage, but Ricard's only has 100 Critical while the Rapier has 130.

>>152882498
Just made an SL132 build with buff that makes winged knight halberd 750 AR

:)

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>>152884849
Not even.

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>>152884676
>muoti sauli.png

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be honest dsg
what was your first reaction when you saw this

>>152885083
Ricard's WA hits buffs multiple times iirc.

>>152884412
>invader gets damaged during backstab animation
>speed of the game is so slow there's virtually no chance of running away from a 4 man gank squad or rolling through their r1 spam
Man DS2 invasion system is an atrocity.

>>152885115
and then you get duel-charmed while buffing.

>>152885228
oh hi solaire

>>152884778
>People roll into r1s.
That reminds me of giantdad video, where afro found some people who didn't know how to get out of infinite combo.
>>152885067
Except not at all?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YM65d6Dg6k

>>152885067
>DS1 had the smallest hit detection lag problems
opinion discarded, It had the worst by far

>>152884778
All I see here is shit players. Should have posted this vid if you wanted to show how broken DaS3 is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WScMl8AIbOk

>>152885229

I know, but I'll be using Blessed Weapon, so the WAs are pretty irrelevant.

>>152885228
>"Whoa, shit. Imma ignore that until later."
Same reaction I give to almost everything in Souls that has a huge, flashy opener.

>>152885345
Except it does.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36CTT_O38LQ

>>152884412
You also had poise, a game that didn't prioritise you into worlds with 4 players of insta-healing, infini-rolling Way of Blue assholes and more to work with than a straight sword or an ultra weapon.
Soul Memory and Orbs could be solved with CE; it wasn't perfect, but it worked.
The NPC summons in DaS2 were cunts, I'll give you that, but apart from no time limits and being able to heal as a phantom in DaS3, invading is way more of a chore. If you can't kiil the host fast (encouraging the one-shot metas), he gets away and you have to do it again up to as many estus as they have charged. And for some reason, defeat in DaS3's invasions means your souls get lost in the middle of the level.

Both games have some pretty massive flaws, but DaS3 feels like it personally hates the invader instead of just being annoying.

>>152885228
Kinda missed it because I was looking at the ballista. When I saw it and it didn't even make an attempt at attacking I got to cover from the ballista and started raining arrows at it.

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>Greatsword
>It's actually an ultra greatsword

10/10 From

>>152885228
I thought it looked like the Demon's Souls rockworms, only larger.

>>152885456
>Soul Memory and Orbs could be solved with CE
Cheating to have any semblance of enjoyment with the game?
So this is a face of DS2 tards.

>>152885372
>All I see here is shit players.
when I play dark souls
no matter where i go
everyone is shit

>>152884429
That's the point of being a tank.
What, you want fastrolling Havels?
Just as easy to poisebreak someone in DaS3, man. Easier, if you panic them with bleed.

Has performance/optimization noticeably improved with this patch?

what's the point of non-boss encounter fogwalls in Souls games?

>>152885550
>washing pole
>is actually katana

Does From even know what they're doing?

>farming bloodstone chunks without access to lower chalices
>build too shit to try reaching lower loran for easy chunks
sorry big flaming hand jew, i'm gonna kill you at least 3 thousand times today

>gotthard twinblades
>you dont get an erection using them

>>152883208
>DS2 fucked up more than DS1 and DS3 combined, but it also improved itself more than either game ever did

You fucking butt wrangler. The DLC isn't even released yet for ds3

>>152885228
"welp, I'm not going that way"

>>152885456
>You also had poise
oh yes it surely helped when you got wailed on by 4 man gank squad
>game that didn't prioritise you into worlds with 4 players
it actually does, just not as much as ds3
>insta-healing, infini-rolling
instead we had fucktards turtling in warmth which is much worse
>Soul Memory and Orbs could be solved with CE
i won't even comment this, i will just leave it there for everyone to see it and laugh at it
>DaS3 feels like
that's your entire post
"feels like"
excellent choice of ""arguments""

>>152885449
I'm talking about hit lag, not spacing detection. Learn to read.

>>152884058
I will remember this post.
Marked.
See you in 3 hours.

>>152885228
>"maybe the ballista can hit it"
>ballista whiffs it a few times
>"fuck man i thought i had something"
>ballista hits both of us and I die

>ultra greatweapon
>it's actually shit

>>152885228
>on neat, this is really cinematic.
>I wonder what it's gonna do?
>oh, another thing disappointing about DaS3, big surprise
The worm is basically a metaphor for my entire first playthrough experience with DaS3.

can i replace my current save file with backup and don't afraid being softbanned?
And also, can i use reshade, anon?

>>152885930
i did the same actually
i found a spot in which the ballista couldnt hit me, but eventually one of the arrows would hit the worm, took a few minutes but the thing died

i thought i wasnt supposed to fight it and i ended up cheesing it

>>152886018
Yes.

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>>152885550
>Claymore
>doesn't make more clay

>Tower shield
>is just a shield and not a tower

>sunlight spear
>is a lightning bolt

>pyromancy flame
>is just a flame that you hold in your hand
>upgrades with Titanite

>The Last Giant
>there are more giants after him

>>152885580
>"Cheating"
>resetting a number to place you back in a certain bracket
As long as you're not leveling or giving yourself some kind of unfair advantage, there's no problem.
People use CE in every souls game: first it was Humanities for invaders, then it was resetting SM, now it's what? Siegbrau's? That's the equivalent of 99 Divine Blessings, surely?

Alternatively, just back up your damn saves.

>>152885920
what why

>>152879592
I can see where you're coming from, the vertical nature of lothric castle is a very strong point in it's favour.
Personally I don't mind the bridge segment so much, mainly because I like the gimmick. That's just personal feelings though, and I acknowledge that it's quite weak in execution.
Personally I'm not fond of the Archives though, the level design is quite nice, but the enemy placement is horrible, relying mainly on spamming you with projectiles and throwing ambushes of thralls at you on every corner.

>>152885550
>hammer class
>only one weapon is an actual hammer

>>152885456
It seems like every faggot who cries about dark souls 3 is almost always crying about not being able to win as an invader.

>>152885449
Holy fuck that video makes me so mad

NEVER buying DaS2 thanks to that bullshit

God damn it, that guy was literally across the room from the guy in the Looking Glass Knight battle

>straight swords
>only fags use them

>>152885601
I switched from Low settings to Max with no noticeable drop in framerate. Might have even improved a little. The game still lags a little when transitioning between areas, though.

>>152885550
>Great Hammers
>Are actually shit

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>>152886136
>and throwing ambushes of thralls at you on every corner.
>thralls with fire flamberges hit harder than the area boss

>dark hand
>its red

>>152886112
>resetting a number
Yep, cheating.
>People use CE in every souls game
You and a few other cheating fuckfaces are not "people", my friend.

>>152886216
That's just an incredibly bad latency. It's very rare. In DaS3 it would cause constant teleports all over the place. In DaS2 it does this.

>>152886216
Yeah, that glass knight one happens in every single fight in the game. It also is exclusive to dark souls 2.

>Rosaria's Fingers
>are actually people

>>152886416
Holy shit, stop being so fucking butthurt over what people do with their own damn lives.

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>>152886216
Just look at this brilliant hit detection, my friend. Why do you want to skip on the opportunity to play in the best souls game ever?

>>152883132
Offer still standing, still need Medals. PC, dsg'd up.

>>152886420
I'd rather deal with the teleporting than the phantom range so bad you can get combo'd and die from someone attacking the air 60 feet away from you

>>152886590
Cheating hurts the game and gives unfair advantage to you above all other people. As long as you're cheating in singleplayer, nobody complains. If you brought that shit into online you deserve to have a vac ban sign sticking out of your ass for the rest of your life.

>>152885878
>oh yes it surely helped when you got wailed on by 4 man gank squad
Helps more than no poise when you're getting wailed on by 4 man gank squad
>it actually does, just not as much as ds3
So what's your point?
>instead we had fucktards turtling in warmth which is much worse
Is it? You can wait out spell charges, there are spells that stop/ mitigate magic and you can always just posion them to counteract it. Another alternative is throwing Corrosive Urns at them.
>i won't even comment this, i will just leave it there for everyone to see it and laugh at it
If only you could fix DaS3's problems by resetting a number in an editor once every few days, or loading a back-up save.

>excellent choice of ""arguments""
Excellent use of """"""condescension marks"""""".
Fine, how's this: as bad as DaS2's PvP low points were, they never actively punished you for playing the game and invading like DaS3 does, which feeeeeels like a slap in the face.
How's that?

>>152884486
I just fought this dude and got him down to lower health than that and he never went into this state. How come?

>>152885771
Yes, and?

Just because it isn't out yet doesn't mean it counts as a plus.

That's like people saying The Force Awakens will be better when Episode 8 comes out.

Nigga it ain't out yet so we ain't taking it into consideration.

If the DLC is good and fixes DS3's problems, that's fantastic. But it hasn't yet so shush.

>>152886165
It's also incredibly linear with no replay value and has poor build variety.

How come DaS3 generated so much fanart porn?
None of the souls characters got as many lewds as Yuria, Karla and Dancer did

>>152886958
You have to repeatedly damage his legs for it to happen.

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>>152886615
There's nothing the devs can really do about lag

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>>152886470
forgot webm

>>152886958
hit him on the legs a bunch of times

>>152886958
He only does that if you concentrate all your damage on his legs.

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>>152886136
Lord's Path looks admittedly very nice.
I just think that Lothric Castle is both more impressive as a whole due to the fact that you can track your progress by looking at the levels you've already been at, and when you start NG+, you realize that you can see most of the areas you'll be at later from this first scene.

>can see DSA / Dancer / Vordt / Homoprinces boss arenas and Grand Archives
>can see Lothric Castle ramparts

One thing that I'd say kinda sucked about Lothric Castle vs. Boletarian Palace was the decreased amount of manual traveling when you played the level (as opposing to you going the entire level's length like in Demon's)

So, I started DaS3 yesterday, and I have to ask: are invasions supposed to be this one-sided? I tried to invade a little today, and most of the time I was ganked, and I couldn't trade hits with them since the host keeps all their estus and I couldn't punish them for running away and healing. It wasn't like this in DaS2, I actually had a chance against ganks

>>152887053
It has the exact same replay value as any other vanilla dark soul's game.

Infinite more than ds2 due to the catastrophe known as soul memory

>>152886913
>Helps more than no poise when you're getting wailed on by 4 man gank squad
in DS3 you at least have hyperarmor allowing you to rape all of them at once and special anti-gank weapons like wolf curved sword which gains AR for each person you hit simultaneously
>So what's your point?
my point is that ds2 ganks are much more unfair than ds3 ones on top of having similar priority system
>You can wait out spell charges
yes, 4 man gank squad, some of which have crowns of the iron king, and you're alone, good luck "outwaiting" it before invasion timer kick in
>resetting a number in an editor
only solves one complain out of a good dozen on top of being a cheating, an act that should get you fucking banned from online forever
> they never actively punished you for playing the game
soul memory system is one huge punishment for trying to play, invade or coop at all

>>152887274
The only way to win ganks is by twinking.

>>152887274
get good
invasions are shit in dark souls 3 but dsg, a board known for not being able to beat the two pontiff doggos, will tell you they're fair

There's an update today right?

>>152887318
>no real sequence breaking outside of Dancer, which gets you chunks you can't use and access to the Sunlight Altar, which you can't use (and with Faith the way that it is, why would you want to?)
>complete lack of build variety
>but Soul Memory though

>>152887047
Then how the fuck can you say ds2 improved?

They never even attempted any fixes for soul memory until what the 2nd dlc or something with agape ring.

Which effectively reduced the amount of rings in builds down to 3.

>>152887452
Are you stupid? It's already out.

>>152887354
How can I twink if I just started the game? I'm currently stuck at the cathedral/farron keep.

>>152887374
it's a bit hard to get good against unfair matchups, the host or his friend would have to be literally retarded. They don't even try to follow me in the level, fuck.

>>152887374
Don't forget our best player Lucy who couldn't kill Pontiff himself for a long time

>>152887541
Huh, my game hasn't updated yet.

>>152887325
>>You can wait out spell charges
>yes, 4 man gank squad, some of which have crowns of the iron king, and you're alone, good luck "outwaiting" it before invasion timer kick in


No one has EVER stalled out all of my magic in dark souls2.

They may have killed me with gmb or spell parry but not by my magic running game out

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>>152887097
are we posting latency now?

>>152887650
PC or PS4?

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>finally try the NiOh demo
>play the tutorial level
>Holy shit this is everything I wanted out of Souls
>play the first mission
>atmosphere is great and the level design is gorgeous
>do some combat
>lock-on feels really awkward for some reason
>game relies on you having to monitor and change a ton of things at once DURING combat (stupid ki-regen system, changing stances even though there's no reason to leave mid-stance, etc)
>everything hits you for 40% of your health (fucking start-game mobs killing you in one combo because GUESS WHAT NO POISE)
>remnants attack waaay faster than you can ever hope to react (even level 1 remnants destroyed me countless times)
>weapon and armor drops are just like Souls, but each drop has randomly generated stats
God fucking damn it, I was hoping to really like this game but by the looks of it, it's going to be less fun than DS3, and that's saying a lot.

>>152887526

BECAUSE THE DLC IS OUT YOU MONG

You can't base an argument on content that -doesn't exist- yet.

We can talk about DS2's dlc and fixes because they're right there on my E drive.

DS3's dlc is insubstantial, so you can't say whether it'll be a detriment or a boon.

When it DOES come out, then we can include it in the discussion.

Sufficiently spelled out for you?

>>152887706
>magic in dark souls2
my condolences

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Fucking chainmails REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>152887274
Invasions are pretty shit in 3

Invading always demands that the invader take the initiative and play aggressively, because you're inherently disadvantaged over the host and their healing/summoning resources in any fight you can't end quickly. In 3, aggression is always objectively the worst playstyle, so the fact that their natural advantages allow them to wait for you to act first, and force you to be the one to act, puts the invader at a massive disadvantage. You can't pressure or chase because they can mash circle/B to chain rolliframes together 12 times consecutively with no gaps, and at any point can erase 800 damage with an instant chug, unpunishable outside of a few choice weapons and only if you stay close to your target at all times (eg. not possible in a 2v1 or 3v1). The damage ceiling also means that you will never take less than 5 hits to kill a host, even with a tumblebuffed ultra, and you have to compete with a 30% health penalty.

You have no advantages, as an invader, except for preptime. Basically, if you're not twinking, there's no point.

>>152887762
>weapon and armor drops are just like Souls, but each drop has randomly generated stats
love this korean bullshit