/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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yo waddup

HAAII YOOOO

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LONDOR IS A SHITHOLE
YURIA IS A WHORE
KAATHE IS A JEW

Do season pass owners actually have the new DLC now or is /rebbit/ being /rebbit/ once again?

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>>152853021
>[Embed] [Embed]
I fucked up

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When does best miracle come back?

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Will we see any of the cut armors make it into the DLC?

>>152853117
What else do you think the season pass gives you?

>>152853117
It's probably been added to their library but since it hasn't even been patched into the game yet there's no way anyone's playing it.

>>152853021
What we're the balance updates for latest patch?

Also what's the best sl for a gank squad to get the most action?

>>152853216
That's ugly as sin

>>152853056
MAAAIII-I YOOOO

>>152853223
The DLC, as it releases, at a discount, like most season passes do?

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>>152853174
>skeleton
>doesn't actually cast the best miracle
you fucked up fampai

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>>152853248

This better?

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>>152853216
nth for Velka!

>>152853295
Not really but the helmet is good

>>152853303
Is that even Velka?

Post
some
fucking
slutmogs

>>152853303
That's Gwynevere

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>>152853174
What animey is that from?

>>152853373
fuck off retard

porn exists for a reason stop trying to corrupt everything your grimy hands touch

>>152853303
I guess that makes sense. It was punishing itself

>>152853362
there's no way to actually confirm, but there are some features of this thing that imply it might be velka
I really wish that's not the case, I always imagined her as beautiful

>>152853362
Dunno

But the godess of sin whipping itself kinda makes sense

>>152853427
There is also an NPC shown that looks like velka's statues but is in no way deformed.

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Cute!

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>>152853427
>I always imagined her as beautiful
And she would be, if it weren't for the decomposing/hollowing.

>>152853230
>poorfags think we're not already playing with season pass

>>152853476
>three fingers
>random lightning bolts

whoever drew this is a good artist but i fucking despise their style jesus christ

>>152853508

>Buying the season pass when the DLCs will be patched into your game for free and CE exists
Your loss my friend

>>152853508
>shitposting when you have access to the dlc
Sure thing

>>152853476
Fag

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Good STR weapons for DaS2?
Should I just use them normally, or infuse them with lightning and use Sunlight Blade?

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What's the absolute best level for PvP if you don't care about fightclubs?

>>152853497
>She'd be beautiful if her flesh wasn't decayed...

>>152853559
>he doesn't shitpost on /dsg/ when he could be playing the game
literally what the fuck are you doing my man

>>152853628
Both are good options, its just your preference between pure STR or STR/Faith

As for good STR weapons, the Kings UGS is nice

>>152853628
Regular with ring of blades and resin

Chariot lance
KUGS
Dragontooth
Rob/ flynn craftmans hammer or redrust scim

>>152853684
30-70 is where I find ganks tolerable

>>152853628
greatsword ugs
craftsman hammer
kings ugs
smelter hammer

Do weapon buffs scale at all? If so, which one should I use at 30 faith and 30 int?

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>that deer / moose knight
HIS HELMET, NOW!
It's such a shame how shit greathammers are in these games

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Is it at all possible to set a flag with CE to allow you to summon while cursed?

I wanted to do a RTR+PW hyper build and coop with a friend, but it's not very practical because I would need to curse myself by depth basilisks every time I want put down my sign and cure it+lose the ability to sustain both buffs at the same time every time I would want to summon them.

The only other option I can think of would be to artificially lower my maximum hp below what is physically possible to be the equivalent of having 1 vit but I would really prefer not doing something like that.

>>152853802
At 30 int/ faith you do simlar damage to resins
Not worth it

>>152853802
Weapon buffs scale with catalysts spellbuff wich in turn scales with your stats
At 30/30 use Carthus Flame Arc

>>152853628
Sanctum mace is a BEAST, but high maintenance. Need poisonbite ring and poison resist gear.
Regular mace tears through a lot of the game. Craftsman hammer does the same thing better, but it looks dumb.
Greatsword is heavy as shit and ugly as sin and I personally hate the moveset, BUT it hits like a truck, is available super early, and does have a pretty good moveset.
Heard good things about the iron king hammer, never used. Smelter sword isn't really a strength weapon, but at 40 strength it might as well be and is strong enough to count.
Zwei is always reliable.
Mastadon greatsword is strong.

DaS2 has plenty of good strength sticks. Take your pick.

>>152853216
So far we've seen way better armors show in DLC trailer alone. Not sure if i even want this one.

>>152853628
Powerstance Smelter Swords.

>>152853857
What about 50 or 60 faith with Lightning/Darkmoon Blade?

>>152853950
that would be pretty effective
if you're using a dual weapon, you're going to become a fucking rape machine

>>152853362
>engaged in self-flagellation which is a religious procedure for mortification of the sin through flesh
>black feathers all over the body, long black hair, dark themed design in general
>robe similar in design to pardoner's robe
>seems to be extremely important for the lore given that it swings lordvessel around
This might be not Velka herself but some of her top priests, for example. But the boss is certainly AT LEAST connected to her.

>>152854003
please stop making rape jokes thanks

>>152853950
It works
But remember, it's only 60 seconds or so
Or 0 if they duel charm you

>>152853860
Alright thanks. So once I get more INT I should switch to crystal magic weapon?

I hope to god the pardoner's robes come back if we're going to fight Velka

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>>152854021
IT'S NOT THE FUCKING LORDVESSEL!

>>152854050
At 60 Int CMW is a beast on fast weapons

>>152853950
>>152854028
Lingering+2 extends it to 86 seconds but its not really worth the ringslot unless you have a free one after all build-necessary rings are in

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>Darkdrift now has shield piercing for its running attacks and rolling attacks.

>>152853427
>>152853448
>>152854021

If that's supposed to be Velka then who is the hooded woman seen earlier in the trailer who looks similar to the "woman holding a baby statues" from Dark Souls 1? Pricilla's mother? Gwyn's wife?

>>152854094
It fucking is you dummy

The inscribing is marginally different but it's a god badin the exact same size

>>152854156
NOTHING

>>152854021
Lordvessel guy has a giant beard though, he's not the same as the Velka looking boss.

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>>152854057
>we get "Well, What Is It?"-gesture along with the Pardoner's robes.

>>152854094

Will they ever reveal any more lore on that guy? Like why was his focus so spoilable?

>>152853295
>''please cleave my shoulder'' armor
at least it's shiny and the helm looks cool

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>>152854206
I'm pretty sure that's feathers.

>>152854152
Lingering would be worth it if BODY BUFFS FUCKING WORKED IN PVP

>>152853117
So is this a yes or

C'mon guys I'm staring at a season pass on sale right now for sixteen Theresa May fun bucks

>>152854320
They dont

t. bought the Pass

>>152854307
>wanting to see autists try and stack five buffs on themselves before the fight even starts

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>>152853303
One of the main arguments telling that this is Velka is that her talisman in DS1 has the same strands of hair.

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>>152854249

>>152854339
If they kept it so yu can only have 1 weapon and 1 body buff it'd be fine

>>152853117
What do you mean? You get the DLCs, WHEN THEY COME OUT. You'd figure if people already had it they would be posting the content all over the place by now.

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>>152853303
>>152853424
>>152853427
>>152854021
Isn't Velka this one? She's like the statue.
>>152853460
Yeah, this.

>>152854412
She can end up transforming into that monster at some point, who knows. Though it might be either Velka (then the boss is someone related to her) or some of her top priests and maybe a covenant leader.

>>152854021
>>152854412
>>152854460

This is Dark Souls lore we're talking about, where people get a bad case of the shits or eat too much and turn into demonic monstrosities as a result.

so what's with everyone's obsession with velka

i will never fucking understand lorefags

>>152854412

Can't wait to clip the camera through her hood to see her face and through her skirt to see her feet

>>152853847
why try to be cool if you're going to cheat for it? might as well give your weapons 110% more damage and lower your max hp to 10. besides, can't you be cursed and place a sign? i dont think coop cures you. i know someone did a similar thing but with darkmoon/forest hunter invasions

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>>152854156
>from unironically buffs a katana's running attack

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Who's this bitch?

>>152854541
That never happened once in DaS, it's BB you're talking about.

So whats the deal with left-handed Greataxe?
I heard somewhere that its good, why is that?

>>152854630
Darkdrift really needs it. Not like it's overpowered, it's a short katana with shit WA

I'm gonna replay SotFS, should I bother controlling my SM or just level outta the ass and resort to arena if I want PvP?

>>152854673
Aldrich used to be a human and turned into a gigantic slimy blob because of cannibalism.

>>152854335
Well I'm gonna buy it anyway since I'm a shill and enjoy the video game.

>>152854712
Arena has Soul Level Priority now, most people stay at 150.

>>152854679
fast ha frames for some reason

>>152854549
She's one of the more mysterious figures in the games and watches over the Panted World, which is like the place where the Gods put everything undesirable.

Also, now that we know who the Sun's Firstborn was, she's the only mystery in the games.

>>152854412
I hope you're right. She looks exactly like Velka should.

>>152854679
because it has fast, infinite hyperarmor compared to other offhand options

''Dark Souls 3 is a poop game. I'm fucking sick of Dark Souls 3''
-Scott Jund

>>152854841
>tfw you finally decide to become a dedicted content creator for a game because you loved it's previous iterations and the new game is trash

>>152854874
>content creator

Please leave

>>152854874
But every souls game is trash when it comes out.

>>152854983
video games made after 1999 are trash period

we've just learned to deal with it anon

>>152854841
I hope he stops playing it then. It'll be a wonderful riddance.

From's tall, slender, algid women match my ideal of beauty.

So how's the new update? Their patch notes are always so vague.

>>152854983
DaS3 is a special kind of trash though, it's unfixable.

Who has the best fashion, Raime or Velstadt?

What's the 50mb update

>>152855074
They made some adJUSTments.

>Find a fun opponent using an unusual weapon combination at pontiff
>Get them to 50%
>Out comes the CCS/WP/GTS
If you're just going to meta me to death at least be upfront about it, i'm using a Greatlance for fucks sake

>>152855095
please no

>>152855074
For whatever reason, the css got a 49 AR nerf 40/40 2h and feels a lot fucking slower

pretty much everything that has a shield piercing effect pre-patch now pierces shields on all attacks, r1, r2, or otherwise

>>152855087
Bullshit, DaS1 was borderline unplayable on release. The multiplayer didn't work, half the weapons were broken, never enough souls, all that and then some. DaS3 had the least broken release of them all.

>>152855094
>>152855074
They nerfed FUGS again
And yhorms too

>>152854673

>Gwyndolin was born at night under the moon and as as a result was a trap with snake legs.
>Manus and most of his daughters.
>Covetous Demon ate until he was a fat ass frog thing and his love interest turned into Medusa from too much poison.
>Whatever the fuck was going on with the Demon of Song and the guy with a key hole for a face. I don't know, it's DaS II, fucking bad trip.
>High King Wolnir became a massive skeleton from all the shit he did.
>Aldrich turned into the Blob from eating so much.
>Orceiros may have absorbed the soul of Seathe and became the weird dragon thing he is.

>>152855143
>For whatever reason, the css got a 49 AR nerf

>>152855074
>The length of the Hammer skill, Perseverance (reduce damage when activated), has been increased
>Delayed the movement cancel timing of certain medium shields upon guard break
>Removed the ability to parry when using the skills Blind Spot (Corvian Greatknife, Handmaid’s dagger) and Dancer’s Grace (Dancer’s Enchanted Swords)
>Adjusted the shield penetration properties of Harpe, Shotel, Crescent Moon Sword, Carthus Shotel, Man Serpent Hatchet and Darkdrift
>Fixed a bug where sound effects did not play properly when using Lightning Spears in quick succession
>The attack cancel timing for rapiers equipped in the left hand has been adjusted
>Several balance issues have been adjusted
>Flaws have been fixed to improve performance

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>>152855174
Fuck me if that's true.

>>152855150
But most of the game's issues are unfixable without reworking the whole damn thing, and that's way too much work for From to bother
Also, DaS1 and 2 have had major patches in 4 months after release, DaS3 hasn't gotten a single significant one.

>>152855216
Yes thank you for posting the vague patch notes that I just mentioned.

>>152855174
>nerfed FUGS

FUG my life then.

>>152855174
>FUGS
WHAT'D THEY DO TO MY WEAPONFU

>>152855223
i will anyway bby ;;;)

>>152855150
>never enough souls
what did he mean by this?

>>152855243
You lack imagination, anon. Make a list of those problems and I bet I could come up with super easy fixes.

I do like how they went and made an arena, especially after that interview where Big M seemed genuinely surprised by the guy who said people wanted one.

>>152855089
Velstadt's armor looks better as a whole.

>>152855193
Most of those are wrong.
It's been a rare thing in Souls.

>>152854320
Where is it sold for sixteen? just got ir for 25usd yesterday wtf

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Is this a rapier?

>>152855268
>>152855285
base damage is now 235, down from 260

>>152855383
£££ m8. Use IsThereAnyDeal in future to save your ass some money

>>152853295
Fluted set in DaS3 when?

Just realize how Gwynevere-heavy the DLC trailer was. I'm assuming this DLC will lead up to Gwynevere's fate that we'll discover on the 2nd DLC.

>>152855479
Looks like a Greatsword.

>>152855339
unpatched das1 bosses and enemies dropped 1/5 the souls they do now, and summoning players to help would halve the souls you get.

>>152855143
Made me check.

>>152855479
that's a greatsword

>>152855481
Oh well I have 50STR and 2H it so whatever

>>152855364
>roll and estus power
these are cancer in PvP
if they are nerfed, From will have to rework all PvE enemies and bosses because they're designed around them
>weapon movesets
From would have to create new animations to fix this shit
>absolutely garbage armor stats
this is actually easily fixable
>no replay value
maybe DLC will fix this, but we'll have to wait 2 fucking months for that

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To all the pvp enthusiasts out there:

Which Souls' game has, in your opinion, the best/favorite pvp?

>>152855675
2

>>152855481
I just checked and the AR hasn't changed at all, what are you talking about?

>>152855534
I'd literally die from laughter if that boss they showcased was actualy gwynvere old, decrepit and completely hollow to boot. The butthurt from "amazing chest" fags would be delightful.

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I think it would be pretty cool if the DLC area was like right over that hill and you could see the base game locations from there, but they said it's going to be completely unrelated to Lothric so probably not.

>>152855675
for invasion fuckery, ds1 or des. for duelshittery, ds2

>>152855339
Summoning Solaire would cut the souls you get in half. Summoning a second player, even further.

You don't get sixty thousand souls for beating Ornstein and Smough, you get thirty thousand. But, guess what? Ornstein did not even drop 60k souls to begin with, so you barely had the souls to level up once by the time you killed them.

Taurus Demon dropped 1k souls. Moonlight Butterfly dropped about 3k. Gargoyles were the first time you got an adequete amount of souls to level up more than once. It's tempting to kill Sif early just so you can get the kind of power you need.

>>152855675
DeS was were invasions were the douchiest and most evil. By Dark souls 2 it became dominated by "honour" and the cancer really went rampant.

My wishes for the DLC :
>like the original Painted World, the first part of the area will function around a single bonfire
>focus on physical shortcuts
>a mix of uneven ground, narrow spaces and open areas in the Castle area
>vertical design, with multiple spaces overlapping each other
>the nature parts are arranged in a valley, a kind of a winding path down/upwards
>due to the vertical design the players can unlock shortcuts back to the bonfire
>new types of Mimics

>>152855223
>>152855268
>>152855285
gottem :^)

"the ashes of ____ at last"

What does he say?

>>152855650
>roll and estus power
Rolls are on the same level as they were in DeS, so I don't see that being a problem. Estus power, I think, is more due to there being no reason to have ash estus, which could be addressed by making buffs not shit and changing weapon arts to only be usable at full FP instead of half FP.

>movesets
You mean movesets are too good, or movesets are too bad? They've actually changed a few animations since release, Lightning Stake's animation was changed to use Dark Edge's at one point. Problem could also be "solved" by making new weapons with different movesets that are worth using over the old ones.

Straight swords really need an attack speed nerf though, I'll agree with that.

>garbage armor stats
DaS2's literally invincible defenses were not a good thing, they were raw cancer. Being able to have 60+ damage reduction across the board on top of 2,000+ health was retarded. The flat damage reduction on armors is a new thing, and maybe they were afraid it'd be too good with percent reduction?

>no replay value
True, true. This is something DLC can fix though, the question is if fromsoft can manage to do it. Bloodborne had replay value despite its NG+s being less different than DaS3's.

>>152855849
Reminder that tail cut weapons also stayed on the ground unless you picked them up so if the boss killed you between the tail cut and picking it up, RIP the tail weapon for that playthrough.

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>>152855940
Oh you silly goose, you had me worried for a second

>>152855940
Boring man.

>>152855723
It would make sense actually, if Velka made Gwynevere repent for sending the undead on a never ending fate. She could have turned into a God / Corvian hybrid, similar to the crows in the painted world.

>>152856015
>You mean movesets are too good, or movesets are too bad?
both, depending on the weapon
for example movesets on straight swords, katanas and 2h curved swords are bullshit, while ultra weapon movesets are literal jokes

Are there patch notes at all? Can't find any on steam

cgs should no longer have an unparriable r2
cgs 2h running attacks should be unparriable

>>152856254
Katana moveset is bad though. You can easily parry katanas on any hit after the first.

>>152855675
2
some say that its duels were good while invasions sucked, but I think that both of these were great, and the best in the series

>>152856209
Sun Princess Ring's description states that Gwynewere went on to set up a family with Flame God Flann and it's Gwyndolin that is rusing the Undead and not Gwynewere.
I don't think Gwynewere will appear in the games at all.

>>152856331
that's exclusive to the washing pole and doesn't affect other katanas

also, parrying second washing pole hit was literally just patched today anyway, so that point is completely moot

>>152856331
>implying any katana user uses anything other than running attacks, which are the most broken move in the game

>>152855981

The ashes have come at last.

>>152856209
Didn't Gwynevere leave Anor Londo long before that rumor spread though? That would mean Gwyndolin or more likely Frampt was the one that spread the rumor.

I think it's implied Gwynevere went around fucking kings and giving them deformed god children and running off in the middle of the night to repeat the process.

>>152856389
I was reliably parrying every single katana in the game on a second R1. It isn't hard, you just block and press the parry button as soon as you hear the *thonk* sound.

>>152856424
This is fair.

Corvian staff mentions the painted world

>>152856451
>the goddess of fertility keeps the gods from being wiped out by fucking everything with a penis

This makes sense.

>>152856524
As does corvian scythe, painting guardian armor, painting guardian sword, the lifehunt scythe miracle, and Yorshka kind of alludes to it with one line. It actually comes up a lot.

>>152856524
we've known that for months

>tfw parried kat running attack
>accidentally riposted when i meant to kick as a taunt
>they died

Is there a reddit list of what the patch changes yet?
No one seems to have any idea what actually changed.

>get salt and sanctuary
>die to the sodden knight like a bitch
This reminds me of my first DaS playthrough
Adding arcade jump mechanics to souls gameplay makes it actually harder

>>152856693
Probably because it only came out 10 hours ago? And From is being their usual vague selves.

>>152856716
Roll forward through everything, and never use sorcery if you don't want the game to be easy.

>>152856524
Painted World is mentioned very frequently, as much as Angels, i think. Absolutely no surprised that DLC is going to focus on it and really with to revisit at least a part of an old level which was one of the top tier invasion locations.

>>152856716
What threw me of the forst time is being overly reliant on either the jump or the roll, instead of using them both in tandem
Heavy weapons with buff are king btw, alongside magic

>>152856716
He's actually one of the harder bosses. If you get him, everything after him will be a cakewalk until the Kraekan Wyrm

>>152855981
I heard "the ashes of cunn"
But I'm not a native english speaker.

>>152856716
Enjoy the ride it lasts. Some bosses from now you'll get gut if you're a souls veteran. Don't underestimate how things react to strike/slash damage. It makes a big fucking difference.

DEX = Challenging, some things become straight up bullshit because you don't have any way to deal strike damage
STR = FUN. You have hammers with strike, axes with slash. Viable as fuck and you'll melt some things.
Mage = Broken. You stomp the game.

>>152856845
>everything after him will be a cakewalk until the Kraekan Wyrm
Except they give you all the fire-resistant gear you'd need to turn that fight into a cakewalk, too.

>>152856896
How's Wisdom? I haven't done that build yet.

>tfw from nerfs the fun broken things, like the ACME Anvil's 2HR2's damage

>>152856896
aren't guns also broken as fuck and deal strike damage?
Wisdom is limited in terms of weapons but also fun and the best archer build.

>he thinks the DLC will be good

>>152856953
ACME?

>>152856971
Guns/Xbows are fun to use, if you do 2 light attacks with a follow up gunshot you get a pseudo-dodge move out of it

>>152856845
You actually mean Tree of Men

>>152856951
>>152856971
Never done either wisdom, archery or guns. Having to use consumables to attack (arrows, bullets) doesn't sound very nice. Wisdom isn't just cures?

I did STR at first, mage after (it was fast) and now I'm doing dex. I just killed the hammer +2 ghosts jesus I was doing no damage to that thing with my glaive.

>>152855103
What combos were they using? Because Machete + fast 1H weapon is indeed meta.

So what happens to the Fire Keeper if you Usuper The Fire? Does she just sit around and get left out of the festivities?

>>152857002
It will be good, but it won't save the game because its fundamentally broken

>>152857070
Corvian Scythe + Butcher Knife

>>152857002
I don't give a fuck about the rest of the DLC as long as the arena is good and crazy, and has a 4-player free-for-all with no loading screens.

>>152857067
You have little use to gold anyway. My Gunblade character has like 900 thunder bullets all the fucking time, not to mention 99 lightning buffs.

>>152857049
Gyrm Greathammer is literally an Anvil on a stick. The R2 was a spin that dealt full 2HR1 damage twice. The number you see when you blow the fuck out of the bow wielding Dragonrider is something to the tune of 1200 damage from one button press, and that nearly oneshots it.

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>>152857067
wisdom has some high level offensive spells in the form of a WOG basically and the best guardian spell in the form of a holy blade that swings when you do.
you can easily carry 999 ammo though

>>152857112
butcher knife is pretty meta 2bh
not as much as cancer curved sword or tryhard's tryswords, but still

>>152857002
>>>/v/

>>152857086
why is it broken?

>>152857071
There's no fire left to keep, because you ate it.

>>152857187
>>>/r9k/

>>152857127
>>152857154
I thought you could only carry 99 of each ammo

I'll try a archery+gun+wisdom next.

>>152857195
roll costs, chug speed, 2 hit combos, hyperarmor

any of you guys still play souls 1

>>152857195
because his favorite e-celeb said so

>>152857245
No but we should

>>152857234
Hyperarmor works fine, what are you talking about?

It actually isn't even hyperarmor, it's superarmor but modified by a stat.

>>152857002
It'll be great, the only downside is I'll have to listen to people on /dsg/ whine and bitch about some inane bullshit.

>>152857229
Only Fromsoftware is that dumb.

>>152857279
I'm gonna start a playthrough tonight. You in?

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>>152857318
I'm going on holiday so i actually can't. sorry.

twitter.com/HidetakaMiyazak/status/416585013518278657

What did he mean by this?

>>152857234
They can't fix roll or chug speed because the PvE is balanced around it.

If they fix the roll of PvP some bosses will became 100x harder and we can't have that can we

>>152857290
this

speaking of, what's your top inane bullshit that makes you cringe everytime someone complains about it

for me it's ultras desu

>>152857376
Miyazaki is a known troll.

>>152857376
Times change.

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>>152853021
>Dark Souls 3 is absolute *Dick suck Sounds* shit, it's a broken game you cuck
>I know it because I have no life and played every game 100 Times
Yeah but you faggots praise an absolute shit game like Bloodborne

>>152857373
Call it edgy but that is the best creed by far just for the potion and the vit0 consumable.

>>152857405
>>152856015

>>152857002

I'm a girl, idiot.

>>152857474
I actually love dick suck sounds. DaS1 had those too, when hitting the gargoyles.

>>152857376
https://twitter.com/HidetakaMiyazak/status/415864118554288128
kek

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>>152857475
i like the Midas creed too since it let me 4 shot the last boss with obsidian pillar and a buff.

>When you kick the shit out of the invader so hard he starts running through mobs
>And you don't even have to go through them to get to the boss fog

Jokes on you frenchie, I was looking for some PvP. Shame you lost like a bitch.

>>152857405
>They can't fix roll or chug speed because the PvE is balanced around it.
That's not true at all. SL1 no rolls ng+7 runs exist. The only thing that would change is that pve shitters would actually need to get good.

>having both tearstone rings activated doesn't give you a purple aura
>same goes for Lloyd's rings

This kills the autism.

>>152857579
Why would you fight invaders for pvp when you can kill the boss and summon reds instead?

Unless you really think you need the health advantage, I mean.

>>152857603
>The only thing that would change is that pve shitters would actually need to get good.

That's exactly what I said.
You really think Bamco would let that?

SAVE US TANIMURA

>>152857410
Seeds.

they're annoying in ganks but ganks would be awful WITHOUT seeds too. Anyone who remembers DS1 pvp would know why they need to be in the game.

>after 4 days of spelunking for shitty nourishing abyssals, go back to pvp after patch
>first fight is a WP+lefstoc
>he's actually so shit he loses to my greataxe
>the actual greataxe, the short range one

HOW BAD DO YOU EVEN HAVE TO BE HOLY SHIT, I'M RUSTY AS FUCK

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>>152857245
I miss ds1.

>>152857553
I hate how there's no reason to be at any creed but Iron Ones or Betrayers

>>152857680
he's too busy watching his wife have sexual intercourse with african-american men

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>>152857680
They call it the tanimura shuffle Still better than the miyasaki roll

>>152857738
Doesn't devara's have the best healing item?

>>152857410
"hurr so many references"

this one is so popular too

>>152857720
greataxe is good though

put it in your left hand

>>152857720
>HOW BAD DO YOU EVEN HAVE TO BE

It's an estoc user if that answers your question.

>>152857802
Only if you panic heal a lot.

>>152857831
not falling for your fotw shit
great weapons are for twohands only

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>>152857802
fire and sky has the best spells and good magic buffs too.

I was replaying DaS and noticed Vamos talks about the Large Flame Ember being from NLR.
Is it actually intentional, or something that got changed (him originally accepting the Very Large ember or the Flame one being placed in NLR)?

>>152857880
He;s right, though. Greataxe in left hand starts its poise frames almost instantly, letting you counter pretty much anything.

>>152857904
Spells aren't restricted to creed, but the magic buff crystal is pretty cool. Not that spells really need a damage boost.

>>152857245
I do, killing boc as we speak

>>152857904
>>152857879
>>152857802
It's funny how an amateur team of basically 2 people in their first game polished the estus system into something so good and insteresting while from fails to do so.

Also str weapons.

>>152857964
>He's right though
You don't even need this to win at pontiffs, why bother

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>>152858026
SCISSORS

>>152857954
Deadlines fucked Lost Izalith over. Everything about that place was reshuffled around, distributed to other areas, copy+pasted a few dozen times, and then chopped up and thrown in the blender.

>>152858026
That's partly because they didn't have to balance the game for pvp, and partly because the system for getting healing items in the first place is so tightly controlled.

>at the end of the video: Oceiros husband of Gwynevere, Nameless king brother of Gwynevere, Lorian and lothric sons of Gwynevere, Gwyndolin (devoured by Aldrich) brother of Gwynevere --> the woman in black is Gwynevere?

What do you think? Is it retarded or legit?

>>152858232
AHH SOMEONE CALL VAATI

>>152858078
>get scissors
>it's str
>well maybe the other one is dex
>it's magic

WELL

>>152858232
It's a stretch and a half.

>>152858232
Oceiros husband is Gertrude

>>152858352
Getrude was the priestess or some shit.

>>152858352
Gertrude is the daughter of Lothric's queen, you dolt.

>>152858232
Dunno, maybe.

WAIT AND FIND OUT!

>>152857720
>People with Curved Swords and Rapiers lose to Greatlance
Don't underestimate how brainless and retarded some people at pontiffs are

>>152858232
>Gwynevere boss battle
>she attacks with stomps and buttslams

>reinstall SotFS
>my character blocks automatically as soon as I two-hand something
??? How do I get rid of this?

>2v1
>one of them uses ranged
wew

>>152858761
pc has some weird hotkey, press M (i think it's M, not sure)

>Crystal Longsword +10
>D/D/A
>Crystal LKS +10
>(worse)D/D/S
>Exact same scaling bonus in both physical and Magic at 17/18/60
Huh

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>>152856424

>>152858761
Don't be silly, Taniumura's game was filled with brilliant ideas.

>>152858761
There are key binds on the keyboard that enable auto-run, auto-block, stupid shit like that. When you typed in your characters name it activated them (thanks from). Just press some keys till it stops, or type your characters name I guess

>>152858761
You pressed the block key, the keyboard keys you lock certain stances. Just mash the board like a retard or check keybinds

>>152858823
Is that an Alonne knight cosplay?
Neato

lol aldritch players
host fighting them alone and they start throwing duel charms lmao

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Healfag from the previous thread here. You seemed interested in my research, so I compared the healing provided by different weapons and estus.

Two of you asked me to test warmth, but I don't have it on any of my characters. I might test it in a few hours, when I get enough sheckles. I'm 99% sure it will always heal all of your health if you wait long enough, though.

For those who missed it, here are my previous tests: >>152823441 >>152824529

>DaS1
>Smough's Hammer has 53 STR requirement
>D scaling
>Dragon Tooth has 40 STR requirement
>D scaling

>>152858836
>>152858829
>>152858802
250+120 hours in DaS2 with infinite number of characters made, and it never happened before. Thanks

>>152858442
I have used a pickaxe to a ~70% chance of success there.

People at Pontiff's are literally retarded.

>>152858938
The Dragon tooth had pretty good base damage though.

>>152858962
Pickaxe + leo is pretty good honestly.

>>152858232
If it is legit I'm hoping you can somehow alter the outcomes of those fights. Even if it's as small as retrieving Gwyndolin's finger.

>>152858915
Nah, but the one-handed Black Blade with no off-hand thing was inspired by someone who did an Alonne Knight cosplay at the /dsg/ cosplay event.

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>>152858937
I messed around with it for a little bit on my faith character as well a while back.

Didn't really have enough max health to really test it properly at the time though.

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rate my fashion lads

>>152859008
I didn't even use the Leo.

I've been trying the whip lately and I'm still winning most of my duels there.

>>152859125
Looks like my 4 year old niece tried to make the ugliest knight she could

>>152859103
Interesting. So the difference between yorshka's chime and sunlight talisman is really fucking huge.

I accidentally did the thing where I made an unfocused character and I'm getting my shit rocked at Sen's Funhouse, what should I do? I've been using a Magic Claymore but I don't really have enough INT to justify the upgrade and I'm spread thin as it is

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well, i guess that's the end of my bow only run. it was good while it lasted
>>152853021
>that anger and pain softening into confusion
CUTE

>>152859125
Anon can we talk about seeing an optometrist? I know a nice one, we can schedule an appointment today.

>>152859032
>Gwyndolin's finger.
What?

>>152857603
>runs
Tolomeo almost did one, but he still needs to beat SoC and NK, who else did a run like that?

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>>152859125

>>152859405
Go nuts and GRIIIIND and then make a godawful hyperquality build and don't worry about pvp anymore.

I've done this before and it was insanely fun having access to pretty much every miracle/spell and weapon

>>152859405
Literally run, backstep and barehanded sprinting punch past everything.
>>152859452
Yorshka has some unused dialog about you bringing it to her.

>>152859489
im laughing so hard

i was so fucking bored and tired of generic edgy fashions i just put random shit together for giggles

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WHY WOULD ONE SAY SUCH A THING?

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>Heysil and Kirk refuse to spawn
>lighting bonfire before opening the doors in the Cathedral apparently stops Patches from spawning there
>change settings from low to max, framerate improves(?)
What is with Dark Souls 3?

>>152859515
okay brb stripping naked and practicing barehanded parrying

>>152859405
level? pc?

>>152859651
I just meant that you punch the one serpent mage on the stairs right before the roof and the crossbow guy on the roof. They can physically block your path.

>>152859405
I'm actually fucking with the Zwei and wondering if I should just become the problem

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>>152857245
Yes.
I have 2 characters in it right now and I'm going to start a new one soonish.

>>152859637
because putting miyazaki and tanimura on the same game was a mistake
id honestly like to see ds3 solely made by tanimura just to see how much would be different, and to see if ds2's massive shittiness was caused by him or shibuya

>>152859578
respekt

>>152859637
They've always spawned for me though.

I've never had a problem getting patches to show up, but maybe I'm just lucky or something.

>poor optimization

Well it's the third time anon, why are you surprised?

>>152859405
Get a Bandit's Knife and bleed the Sneks.

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>>152857245

>>152859908
>fashion
>poise souls 1

>>152859637
MAYBE THIS IS YOUR ISSUE BECAUSE I HAD THIS:

STEAM BEING IN OFFLINE MODE DOESN'T LET NPC INVADERS SPAWN

YOUR GAME CAN BE IN OFFLINE MODE

STEAM CAN'T

I DON'T KNOW WHY

>>152859943
I still win more than you lmao

>>152859943
Some people like to have fun and not walk around as a min-maxed Havelmom/Chainmom
Shits fugly

Official Patch Notes:

The length of the Hammer skill, Perseverance (reduce damage when activated), has been increased //note: the Japanese says "Large Hammer Category"
Delayed the movement cancel timing of certain medium shields upon guard break
Removed the ability to parry when using the skills Blind Spot (Corvian Greatknife, Handmaid’s dagger) and Dancer’s Grace (Dancer’s Enchanted Swords)
Adjusted the shield penetration properties of Harpe, Shotel, Crescent Moon Sword, Carthus Shotel, Man Serpent Hatchet and Darkdrift
Fixed a bug where sound effects did not play properly when using Lightning Spears in quick succession
The attack cancel timing for rapiers equipped in the left hand has been adjusted
Several balance issues have been adjusted
Flaws have been fixed to improve performance

hacking piece of shit going by you died :^)
total loser lol

>>152859943
You're one of those people that thinks every playthrough has to be carefully balanced around making it as viable as possible in pvp right?

>>152860159
>>152860094
>>152860091
i didnt believe in the dasidf

i do now

>>152860248
who?

>>152859738
I've SL1'd up to right after O&S I don't know what I'm doing so terribly wrong this time

>>152859720
lvl 47, PC (first time, played it on consoles but it had the dlc included for $5 and my new computer could finally run it)

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I don't want Velka to make an appearance: best not to elaborate on some things, really.
Don't throw in one of the last truly mysterious things in the series as some dumb fanservice boss.

>>152860337
Dark Souls Internet Defense Force

>>152860248
Enjoy the chainstab chainmom fights

>>152858026
>their first game
They ripped off basically all of their ideas from the Souls games and made it 2d. Of course you can develop balance better when you steal all your ideas and don't have multiplayer so you can balance everything for stritcly PvE.

>>152859959
That's bizarre. I'll give it a shot, thanks.

>>152853684
Destroying nubs with twinked shit & sl20-25 in undead settlement.

+2 for weapons, maybe +3. Forgot the ranges.

>>152860429
>>152859943
>>152860248
lol

>>152860159
Why would you play an rpg in an inefficent way?
Inb4 to have fun.
Kill yourself.

>>152860429
backstab souls 1 is the only das i dont play specifically because of poise and how pointless it is to even bother wearing armor unless you're wearing that stupid fucking loincloth

>>152860539
Nah, why don't you just kill yourself literal sperg lord.

>>152860539
lol I do it to challenge myself, and outskill noobs like you

>>152860094
Uh, I was too late >>152860539

>>152860462
Why doesn't fromsoftware don't steal their ideas from themselves then? : ^)

Then it surely would be a great game, just like Dark Souls 2- oops.

>>152853684
65+6

>>152860539
>retard who just copies the easiest ways to beat the game from competent intelligent people
>can't handle beating the game with a different set up that requires a different approach

I bet you couldn't even handle the tamest of challenge runs.

Why does Hollow scale so poorly next to Chaos/Dark/Lightning/Crystal?

Why would you ever use Luck?

>>152860684
>challenge runs

anon that isnt the original poster your were replying to

but anyway what's even the fucking point of challenge runs? isnt the point of a hard game to make it as easy as possible for you to win through knowledge and/or equipment?

go play skyrim if you want an rpg that has the best looking armor be the strongest armor

function > form

>>152860631
Dark Souls 3 did just that and for the most part copied the things about the series that were good and not the bad things.

>>152860708
BECAUSE IT'S PURE PHYSICAL

>>152860462
>ripoff
>stealing

lmao
Everything is copied or inspired from somewhere else. From had 3 games to fix this shit and still failed. The couple succeeded in their first try.

You speak like from did any balancing whatsoever when the game is an absolutely broken mess pvp wise.

>>152860786
>isnt the point of a hard game to make it as easy as possible

No not really.

>>152860614
>lol
Challenge is the only real reason to do it.
>>152860609
You're the sperg if you cosplay or do shit like that. Being efficient in a world where everything wants to kill you is only a natural behaviour.
>>152860684
I'm not interested in challenge. I don't play Souls games for that. I like the gameplay and the story/setting.
I'm pretty sure I could beat PvE in any way without too much trouble, given how much Souls experience I gathered over the years, it's just stupid in my eyes and I?m not interested in it.

So, if Rosaria's Soul making one of Gwynevere's miracles means that she is, in fact, the titty goddess herself, does that make the Stray Demon a reincarnated Havel? Help me understand.

>>152860809
And still has a worse estus system than S&S

>>152860864
well the point is to beat it, right?

skill is artificially important. the only thing that matters is success. your stupid challenge runs are only important to other autistics that self-restrict themselves in such a way as to arbitrarily make the game harder

>>152860957
>well the point is to beat it, right?

The point is to be challenge, and while someone like yourself might be challenged by playing through all of dark souls 1 as an overleveled poisemonster, it just doesn't cut it for the competent people out there.

>>152860860
From has made a ton of balance patches. But From has a problem where the balance of the single player is the same as the multiplayer balance.
And S&S doesn't have multiplayer so they don't have to plan for weapons going against each other in PvP.

So, what builds do the cool kids run these days? What's the meta?

Thinking of starting a new game, haven't touched it for 3 months.

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>>152860631
Better than DaS3, and you know it.

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r ur rings upgraded bich

>>152861060
theres no difficulty setting in the options menu so you have to make one up is what youre saying?

its called "being too good for your own good" and you should probably just go do something productive instead of wasting your time playing video games you've already mastered

>>152861060
>The point is to be challenge
The devs decide what's the challenge. Yours is an artificial one.

>>152861134
I don't really care if it upsets you that I'm not mentally challenged and can have fun doing more difficult things then you can manage.


>>152861149
Video games are by nature artificial.

>>152861149
this

>>152861149
so?

>>152861134
lol

>>152860708
Because with max hollowing and two Hollow-infused weapons/ one weapon and a shield, you get softcap scaling, as well as reduced scaling from whatever weapon you infused.
Start with Deprived and put 10 points into luck, you're now free to do whatever you want with the rest of your stats while having a completely viable melee.

At least, that's what Reddit tells me :)

>>152861065
same as release, generic tryhard winswords quality build
note that tryhard winswords now qualifies as both gotthards and sellsword
alternatively pure dex with the estoc/rapier
or quality with bk glaive
or quality anything really
it doesnt matter anyway since pvp is still shit, partially due to quality being overbearingly superior to everything else, and a few other things like hyperarmor being shit and phys defence being shit.

>>152861230
So DaS isn't a hard game because of how much stuff you need to limit in order to generate challange.
A real hard game offers its highest form of difficulty through forcing the plauers to play optimally.

>>152861220
what i can manage is completely irrelevant, you dumb ghru

the objective of the conversation is pointing out how futile it is to play the gane in an actively detrimental way for the sake of pride or "challenge", whatever that means

>>152861134
This is the most embarassing thing I've read here in a while, it's basically "stop being better than me".

Like, how far down the shit ladder of tall poppy syndrome do you have to be that it actually upsets you when people are better at things than you? Like, what kind of mental disorder causes you to denigrate someone for being better than you, that it's some sort of fault to not be as low on the pole as you are? That's just pathetic, seek help, I'm serious.

>>152861415
lol

>>152861423
>how futile


It's not, it's entertaining to be challenged.

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>Several game flaws fixed
>Other game balance parameters have been adjusted