/edg/ & /scg/: Elite: Dangerous & Star Citizen General

I think I've figured out why they're called "Clippers"

The last two times I've gone against one the only damage I took was from collisions. They just run right the fuck into you. The first one has fixed guns that literally couldn't hit me, the second one would fire for some reason.

>>152726909
Better

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Thanks OP.

are sothis runs ded

I'm at Newholm and I'm not getting anything

is it ceos or sothis?

>>152727064
Would not* fire for some reason.

this is thread №22

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>webm as OP image

I approve.

Thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5rRZdiu1UE

>>152727185
Whichever has the black market. But one of them is for sure up.

There are a lot of high profile systems that are down right now, its a real shame

>>152727185
It's just total RNG whether or not you get any missions. So switch from open to solo and restart the game a couple dozen times and you might get enough. I've got a 20.3 million run going on right now.

>>152727064
>The term "clipper" most likely derives from the verb "clip", which in former times meant, among other things, to run or fly swiftly. Dryden, the English poet, used the word "clip" to describe the swift flight of a falcon in the 17th century when he said "And, with her eagerness the quarry missed, Straight flies at check, and clips it down the wind." The ships appeared to clip along the ocean water. The term "clip" became synonymous with "speed" and was also applied to fast horses and sailing ships. "To clip it," and "going at a good clip," are familiar expressions to this day.
>While the first application of the term "clipper" in a nautical sense is by no means certain, it seems to have had an American origin when applied to the Baltimore clippers of the late 18th century. When these vessels of a new model were built, which were intended to "clip" over the waves rather than plough through them, the improved type of craft became known as "clippers" because of their speed.
Neat.

I love when someone bumps a thread complaining about things being broken like 1 or 2 years ago and everyone replied that CIG would fix it soon and to stop complaining lmao

>>152727064
>Chaff is the most common thing for NPCs and players to keep aboard their ships
>FDev designs a ship that has to rely entirely on gimbals just to hit
>NPCs and players spam chaff and make it useless

Don't know who the fuck thought this was a good idea. But they're a retarded asshole.

How much spess bucks do I need as a total newbie to outfit a good ED ship for long range exploration?

How long will I have to grind to get that amount?

Rough estimates welcome.

>>152727442
Link?

/scedg/e when

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Anyone have a dream space game?

ED's station interiors are really well done. In fact they're so much more interesting the entire game should be about them. Have a GTA game where you fly your hovercar around a 360-degree Fifth Element city, in a Bernal sphere, doing deliveries and odd jobs and Hardwar-esque feuding with other groups.

>>152727920
My dream space game is Elite Dangerous after a lot of updates and content patches

>>152727920
In all honesty it's pretty much what Chris Roberts is promising with Star Citizen, which is why I don't feel like I can really believe it will happen. The thought of visiting all those beautiful varied spaceports on different worlds in first person, and chilling out on my spess ship, it's just amazing. All I've ever wanted.

>>152727920
>>152728002
ED created as per the Design Discussion Archive is pretty much it.

>>152727589
20 mil. Asp explorer is the default long range. Long range exploration sucks and is one of the worst aspects of this game

>>152727920
Some combination of ED/SC with shit loads of massive stations, actual cities to explore, some fantastical elements and inspirations from muh space animu

>>152727064
>flying my dadbra
>interdicted by a clipper
>it's running large PAs on the wings
>sit perfectly still pointing directly at it
>it also comes to a stop and after a brief pause says it'll boil me up
>flip my space dorito sideways
>both PAs whiff at point blank range
>it just keeps on firing and missing like that

And that's also how I discovered that NPCs have infinite ammo.

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>>152727920
Mass Effect with advanced spaceships not the laughable kiddie space map we had.

What EVE online was supposed to be with Walking in Stations + Dust 514 integrated

What Star Citizen promises to be when finished

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What is does Floating Execution Enabled mean? Is it just logging the clients more?

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>>152728624
>Floating Execution Enabled

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>>152727920
What Chris Roberts is promising, plus a massive 300+hr story within the PU and a romanceable male and female from each race, fully VA'd with in depth subsumption AI for the romancing, with all the stages up to and including being "mated" to them, and the daily life that comes with marriage.

Yeah yeah, I'm a dirty xeno fucker, oh well.

>>152728624

A floating point exception is something that's triggered by doing an invalid operation with a floating point number. You can ignore it and try to keep running, catch the exception and try to fix it before handing the value over to whatever was going to use it, or you can just let the app crash.

So instead of ignoring it and soldiering on like it normally does with potentially negative performance/stability consequences, the client will just crash on the spot and presumably upload a crash dump to the devs so they can figure out why the code is trying to do invalid bullshit.

>>152728456
>find one with a 92k bounty, occupied by an eagle
>decide to go after it in my viper4
>RIP eagle
>initial thought is "oh fuck those were PAs" as its shot barely misses
>that was a lucky dodge though!
>clong

>after three rounds of this I realize the NPC doesn't account for mounting position whatsoever and is just centering me

>touch noses to it and rotate the rest of the fight

Why wouldn't they have given the NPCs the basic ability to know what gun they have and how it performs?

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So I'm about to pull the trigger on the 60 dollar ship+squadron 42 pack to get the taste of deus ex mankind divided out of my mouth but before I do I have a few questions

>Are you able to buy more ships with ingame currency?

>Is the game an open world MMO? Can I go find other people out in space at random? If not, how does player interaction work

>Does it have player owned stations like EvE?

>Aurora MR or Mustang Alpha?

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>>152729116

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>>152728456
>>152729383
>get interdicted by master clipper
>it does nothing but float around me, aiming at me and not firing
>wat
>after a couple minutes of this, check loadout
>mines
>wat

>>152729670
what's wrong with the new DX?

>>152729869
optimization and microtransactions, from what ive heard

>>152729670
there are no player owned stations like eve, and they dont really plan on adding anything like that, they want there to be these derelict stations in space that people fight over like king of the hill, but considering players will be fragmented into 50 player instances, shit just isnt going to work

>>152727920
Rockstar makes a grand theft auto game heavily influenced by cowboy bebop

>>152729670
oh, and yes to all of those. player stations is a maybe. aurora has missiles, but mustang can aim better.

>>152729670
>>152729937
You will be able to build stuff on planets tho

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>>152729670
You can buy more in game ships through a currency called rec which you earn through the Arena Commander and Racing modes, Racing earns the most rec at the moment. You have to use the websites to buy ships/weapons with Rec.

The game right now has a mini open world it's a fraction of the size that will be in 3.0, 2.5 the upcomming patch will add a new station.


No player owend stations right now this may be a thing in the future.

Aurora

Also use this referral code to earn you and me some free shit

STAR-CMBR-YX46

>>152730040
no, you will not be able to build things on planets

>>152730103
what
I too wish to be a heavy armor spacemanga

>>152729869
65 dollar pricetag because i live in WA and since valve is here too, it counts as a local sale and sales tax applies. It's like that with everything I buy on steam.

>>152729937
>derelict stations
What would be the motivation of fighting over them if you can't own them? Or can you own them?

>>152730010
I'll go with the Aurora, it seems like it's more of a jack of all trades.

>>152730040
That sounds pretty good.
Is squadron 42 worth the extra 15 bucks in my ship purchase?

So let me get this straight, they charge you for the first ship you own + access to the game, but you can buy the other ships with ingame money?

>>152730362
Squadron 42 will have over 20 hours of gameplay so it will be easily worth the $15

>>152730091
I already registered, or I would have used your referral code. Any way I can add it post registration?

>>152730362
>Is squadron 42 worth the extra 15 bucks in my ship purchase?
it'll be at least as much game as DX

>So let me get this straight, they charge you for the first ship you own + access to the game, but you can buy the other ships with ingame money?
yes

>>152730362
you can own them, but people can just take them away from you if you leave them there, and yes you can buy any ship in the game except for a few rare ones, most of the people that bought these ships with money though will have lifetime warranties on them, meaning they'll always get a new hull back if someone splats them. while you'll have to be spending a large amount of money on insurance regularly

>>152730770
>a large amount
no

insurance will be negligible by intent

>>152730103
astral projection inside your ship can go very wrong when your soul wanders too far in space

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>>152730770
Cool. I'm about to buy. Do game modules cost extra money to access?

>>152730880
I've been confused by the insurance stuff.

Do you actually need insurance in the game right now? Is that something you can buy with in game money some place?

>>152731238
no. SC is all content forever included under the entry price, minus maybe some future mission packs and sq42 sequels.

>>152731318
insurance will be a full release concern, currently you have unlimited free ship spawns

>>152730098
I trust Chris Roberts' words more than yours

>>152730506
Nope. Unless you want to register with a different email and username you can't use his code.

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thanks for the answers everyone, I just bought it.

>>152731742
>ved
>not goon and kong
really though flores nobody's gonna revive that shit. despite being 16, you are old and forgotten

>>152731238
Nah, the modules are just different segments of the full Star Citizen we are previewing/help test. You won't get Squadron 42, the single player campaign though, that is sold separately.

So what happened to The Mandate?

Can you buy whole packages in the grey market?

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Just coming through to say still best ship.

>>152733127
They actually gave an update like a month a go check their kickstarter page

>>152733127
>The team and the project went through a rough patch last year. We iterated and changed and fell short while building the grand vision of the game we had, we struggled to communicate our intentions within the team, we faced difficulties with our heads down.

>>>>VISION

Check their kickstarter for more info

>>152733227
yes

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Am I fucked because I didn't grind rep via the old donation missions before they got patched? Did everyone get their Corvettes and Cutters before the patch hit?

I'm doing the Wu Ganja/HIP 10716 runs and I get like 13% per run and it's fucking mind-numbing.

>>152733261
How is hte Aquila different than the Connie

>>152733386
Are you new, friendo?

There are variants!

>>152733295
Oh shit. Reads like the project is in the crapper.

>>152733386
Sexier

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>>152733295
At least the Mandate devs are being honest and holding themselves accountable and not hiding it.

>>152733386
Bigger front window, exploration focused internals and externals, Ursa rover, and most importantly, that sick ass rusted/beat up hull texture.

>charged with criminal trespass in 22 systems
>42 classified scan databanks
>60 unusual encrypted files
>0 cracked industrial firmware
>0 security firmware patches

Grinding mats for dirty drive turning and doubleshot frags is suffering.

>>152733548
>using frags

Are you a masochist?

>>152733540
I thought they dropped the unique canopy
I remember being upset about it

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>>152733261
You now remember when the Constellation was added to hangar mode, and it was the most fucking impressive thing, seeing a ship that big in game.

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>>152733728
>that piss fog

ohh man i had forgotten about that

>>152733717
Nope, this never happened. One dev once said something that a bunch of shitposters misunderstood.

The new way they made the current Constellation was specifically to make variants like the canopy easier to implement.

>>152733717
Isn't it in the game?

>>152733530
Er they held radio silence for almost a year before finally coming out and saying they were fucked

Not exactly a paragon of honest development.

>>152733653

I'm running a resist-armored FAS so my ship is already lodged halfway through my opponent's hull for most of the fight anyway.

Frags do unspeakable things when you can reliably hit with the ENTIRE burst.

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>>152733728
I had a IMMERSION moment when I first saw this in game.

>>152733867
The thing about being FUCKED is that you don't necessarily know you are fucked tell you are in over your head and it sounds like this is what happened with the Mandate. Also looks like they cut some things but I"m not sure what.

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neat. the bounty hunter CG just ended ~15minutes ago

>>152734084
They had to move to Slovakia I think. In over their heads is putting it mildly.

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Braben, Look at me.


I am the Vision now.

>>152734084
Fuuuuuck I'm so looking forward to seeing one of these.

Holding off on going through the whole ridiculous upload process until 2.5

Any idea when the Redeemer will drop? Looks fuckin sick.

>>152733261
>Best ship
Someone hasnt flown a connie in 2.5 yet

>>152735513
hopefully never.

>>152733841
that glass effect tho. I miss that, even if it didn't make any sense for future spessglass

>>152735289
I went through the torture of 2.4.1 just to see one in person and I have yet to see one spawned

there's just no reason to take them out beyond novelty at the moment, unless it's all you won

>>152735648
Why?

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>>152735513
Probably one of the last ships they'll finish.

Like you could literally start a betting pool on whether the Redeemer, the Cutlass rework, or the Friendly Merchantman will be the last thing they work on.

http://www.strawpoll.me/11066447
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>>152736221
because a shit

>>152733530
>Star Trap
I actually found that on VHS in my Dad's porn collection.

The ginger is a shapshifter and grows a penis to fuck the brunette

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>>152736535
Tell your dad he has great taste

>>152736160
it actually flies way better than you'd expect, and is nearly as fast as the connie. Although if you think the freelancer's view is bad, try that view on a ship the size of a building.

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>>152734690

Well done, my son.

>>152736314
CIG doesn't care about the Merchantman? It's one of the most interesting ships in the game

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>>152737154
CIG cares about the Merchantman it's just not a priority since trading isn't in. Also the large ship pipeline isn't finished yet.

>>152736314
It'll be the Merchantman, because that involves them doing a whole load of design on how ding dong banu ships work, they need to build up a whole style guide for EVERYHING to do with that race, it's a big project.

The Cutlass they've already done plenty of work on, and they have the entire Drake styleguide and the pipeline set up to do it quickly whenever the fuck the people for it are free. Redeemer likewise should be fast, but for obvious reasons they are delaying that as long as possible.

Just bought the Squadron 42 + Aurora SC Package.

How do I get in my ship and fly around?

My hangar is empty. I go to "Universe" and I'm completely fucking lost.

Is infantry combat in the game yet? If so, how do I shot niggers?

>>152736706
that was always the problem with the freelancer view; it was obviously concepted as something Starfarer sized. once it got 3D modeled they realized this and gave it that hideous bubble nose that nobody liked, so they had to compromise with the narrow slit and a couple skylight windows.
>flies like a connie
yeah, got some bad news for you about the connie in 2.5. don't expect the starfarer to fare any better.

>>152737443
Universe >> Port Olisar >> select quickjoin/autojoin (whatever it said) >> launch

Then go downstairs and use any of the consoles in the center >> select ship >> look for pad number on signs posted nearby, follow to airlock, exit and enter, WA LA

>>152737443
There is barely anything playable at the moment, you should see it more as a tech demo.

Try the tutorial in there for learning how to fly, then maybe try some Arena Commander. If you want to spawn your ship in the "Universe" mode, you select it from one of the computers under the big glowy globe thing in the large central room, and then go to the hangar it tells you to. But you should get the basics down first.

I think to do first person shooting on there you need to get out of that space station first (guns are disabled).

>>152737443
read the pastebin FAQ in the OP senpai.

Olisar -> down to the main level with the big holo-planet -> spawn your ship -> follow the blue dot

So do you guys think SC will run on an AMD HD 7450, at literally any graphical setting and resolution

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>>152737639
>WA LA

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>>152737639
>wa la

>>152737845
>>152737857
What a beautiful DUwanG

Is there a ship progression guide for E:D?

>>152737639
Americans are literally sub human, aren't they?

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>>152737639
>WA LA

>>152737952
yes

>>152737956
that's a funny way of spelling white people

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>>152737443
Go to Free Flight first to learn the controls check your keybinds learn how to fly in decouple mode and how to get in and out of your cockpit then check out vandol swarm.

In your hangar do you see any blue dots on the ground you may have to place your ship in the hangar by hand. Also remember one of the F keys for mobi glass and chat

Free Flight is a must before doing anything else

>>152737369
What are the characteristics of the manufacturers in SC? Is there a theme for each company?

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>>152738096
Could you post it, please?

>>152738232
Yep, every manufacturer has their own styles, stuff from the basic form of shapes (though some manufacturers do both sleek and industrial looking ships), to the materials, the kinds of functions, etc. This lore is pretty cool actually, each company has its own history, a planet it is based on somewhere in the universe, and different things associated with them.

>>152738232
Ya each manufacturer has a theme. Not sure what they are but you can sort of get a feel for it by looking at each lineup.

Aegis is sort of sleek, sometimes bulky
RSI is really boxy and utilitarian
MISC is sort of rounded truck styled ships

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>>152737582
yeah, I know, I've flown the connie in 2.5, it's painful to use now. Even more drifty than before I think. Haven't flown a 2.5 starfarer or seen anyone complaining about it yet.

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>>152738232
RSI : Innovative, daring,experimental human technology
Aegis : WW2 Space Planes
Drake : We've got the junk cobbled up and ready to cheeki breeki
Origin : lmao tesla in space, for smug elon musk fans
MISC : Industrial Xeno mingling filth chinks
Consolidated Outland : Those yuppie guys who just entered the market with a snobby ship nobody really cares about but still flies 2bcool
Anvil Aerospace : Like Aegis's younger brother, but with a bigger dick

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No Man's Sky's ending scene? What are you doing here? Go back to your own shitty game. No one likes you!

>>152738421
>>152738232
To summarise I guess:

RSI are boxy old school utilitarian spess ships
Aegis Dynamics are generally sleek aeroplane looking military ships, almost always aerodynamic (though strangely with one or two exceptions)
Anvil Aerospace are blockier and more hard-edged military ships
Drake Interplanetary are flimsy looking industrial piratey ships, look barely held together like Star Wars Rebel Alliance ships
MISC are practical utilitarian bubbly looking ships, tend to be chrome, shaped like dildos
Origin Jumpworks are sportscars in SPESS
Crusader just make jetliners, look like spes jetliners
Consolidated Outland only have one ship but it's a spiky avant garde flimsy looking thing

I think that's all of them?

>>152730362
With regards to the ship purchasing system, how I think it will end up working is that post release, everyone who bought now will have their ship(s) they bought a package with, as well as whatever you get at the beginning of the game (currency, ships, ect) People who bought at release will just get what everyone else is getting, no other ship or anything with it.
seems reasonable enough to me and wouldn't over complicate things too much

>>152738927
>>152738631
>>152738583
>>152738421
Cheers. The Gamescon demo looked pretty cool and if 3.0 is released and impresses me then I was thinking of grabbing a basic package.

Still trying to decide what ship to get if I buy in.

>>152738631
>>152738421
>>152738927
What about Aopoa Corporation?

>>152739216
>Still trying to decide what ship to get if I buy in.
Doesn't matter, you'll be able to earn ships with creds eventually. So you'll work your way up.

Unless you want to start with something special.

>>152738631
>Consolidated Outland : Those yuppie guys who just entered the market with a snobby ship nobody really cares about but still flies 2bcool
Outland is if Steve Jobs and Howard Hughes had a baby and he grew up to start a space ship company.

>>152739216
Mustang Alpha if want the cheapest package, then upgrade to an Aurora LN or Avenger Titan if you really like the game.

>>152739219
space John Deere or some other tractor company

>>152739216
Get the MMo and Squadron 42 package with the Aurora.

If have yet to make an RSI account use this Referral code

STAR-CMBR-YX46

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>>152730103
>Freelancer pilot finally gets the unobstructed view he always wanted

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>>152739776
bah... always forget to post my pyramid scheme code

It looks like the Freelancer MAX is pretty much the same in terms of weaponry besides that it doesn't come with missiles. But it still has pylon mounts apparently, so once you kit it won't it be just an improved Freelancer with slightly worse shields?

>>152739776
I think I made an account. But I haven't bought anything yet.

>>152739928
Nevermind, it has fewer pylon mounts than the base model. Still, that's not a very significant trade-off considering that you're getting 2 more engines and over twice the cargo space.

>>152740121
Keep in mind that fully laden you're going to fly like a beached whale.

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>>152739928
>slightly worse shields
There're changing the shield system so it might end up with the same shields as the normal lancer. But it has less pylon mounts total. So you'll always have less missiles than the base lancer. Also, because CIG is retarded about physics, even though it literally has twice as many engines as the base lancer it will probably still be slower and less agile.

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>>152739546
>the Khartu-al is a tractor

u wot

>>152738254
Image for you.

>>152740363
Thank you.

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>>152740363
sorry, got the xi'an company and the people who made the Argo mixed up.

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>>152736314
I think a betting pool would be interesting on when CIG will make the Sol System. It's the most important system in the game and by far the most daunting. I'm guessing it will be one of the last systems they make but there's an argument to doing it sooner because a huge number of the assets they'd have to make could be re-purposed for almost everywhere else.

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Post ships.

>>152742171
>see that interdictor and cruiser?

You can't fly those.

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>>152739928
I am all for the max as long as they don't fuck up and make it a double walk way like the base.

What are some good s2 / s3 fixed guns in SC?
Trying to kit out my titan and my mustang

>>152742617
Tarantulas and Broadswords. Broadswords especially work well with the Avenger's main dakka gun since their lead/lag pips line up almost perfectly.

>>152742268

We'll get "executive control" over those in the future, supposedly, but who knows what that means...

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>>152742171
apparently Aegis Aerospace exists and makes space planes in Call of Duty Infinite

>>152742617
the largest repeaters, broadswords, matis, or tarantula you can fit, no gimbals if you can take them off. What every you do make it a mono load out, i.e. all weapons should fire at the same or very close velocity so the pips stay tight.

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>>152742989
AEGIS STRONK

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>>152742989
won't lie though, I love this design.

>>152742893
Alright, I'll check them out. Thanks

>>152743024
Why gimbals off, exactly?

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>>152743152
Reminds me of Ace Combat 3 stuff.

>>152742617
Titan- S2 Tarantulas on wings
Mustang Delta- S1 longswords on turret, S2 Tarantulas on wings

>>152743159
it's not that gimbals are bad or anything, but that you need to keep all your weapons of the same type since otherwise it's a mess since they work at different velocities and ranges and the reticules are thus very far apart. i don't know anything about the avenger, but if it's not possible to get gimbals on all of them then all of them should be fixed instead for the prior reason. if all of them could be gimbaled, then you could just as well go down that path. just don't use both at the same time (you can, but you really shouldn't unless there's a niche reason for it)

>>152743454
Oh, that makes sense. Thanks again.

>>152743159
also not the guy you responded to...

>>152743454
gimbaled longswords work quite well on the Avenger actually.

>>152743159
You get a size bump on your guns and personally I think with practice anybody should be able to hit targets just as well with or with out gimbals on a mouse or stick.

I think the exceptions to this might be sluggish ships like the freelancer or connie where that extra reach might be able to help keep bullet heading towards the target more often but on my freelancer at least I cant remove the turrets yet so I have not been able to test it with bigger guns.

>>152742893
>>152743024
>>152743429
I assume similar things hold true for the 325a? Or are the Omniskys good enough?

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>>152742989
So does ED's federation.

>>152743594
if it works for you then that's fine but in my experience, whenever you use fixed guns and gimbaled in the same loadout it gets annoying since you can only use one or the other at any given time unless you line it up perfectly.

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>>152743656
If you want energy load-out for the 325, then a panther repeater on nose, and omnis on wings, ballistic load-out is Broadsword on nose, S2 Tarantulas on the wings.

>>152742268
Jokes on you, they don't even move.

Seriously though, apparently though they can hyperspace jump directly into a warzone which is an ability I want on my ship.

Not sure how you run an empire when the enemy can teleport capital ships where ever they want and blow your shit up.

What is there to do now in SC?

Please be as precise as possible in describing just what there is. How many unique missions are there?

>>152744259
>jump to conflight zone for the first time
>music starts to go apeshit
>cap ships jump in almost on me
>both jump in at the same time and next to eachother
>stuck in the black cloud for a while
>imp ship decides to target me and only me after a while
That was fun, can't wait to see it happen everytime I go to a warzone.

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>>152744739
When was the last time you played

>>152744739
In the PU?
A few ICC assistance missions which all play out fairly similarly, kill pirates and get out of ship to fetch a black box or kill pirates to help an NPC ship

Repair comm arrays, go to area, kill pirates, jump out of ship and fly into the satellite to flip a switch

PI mission, go to abandoned station to fly through it and get evidence of some girls husband being a drunk

Kill other players in ship or in a wonky FPS because of the lag


I think that's it
Though you can also do vanduul swarm or free for all pvp.

>>152744739
Arena Commander, which is endless dogfighting in various online (competitive) modes and offline ones too

A small section of the universe with some stations that's multiplayer

>>152744932 got all the missions down.

Soon enough (v3.0) we'll be able to land on planets, get access to a bunch more stations and locations, have the basic roles (trader, explorer, mercenary etc.) all functioning etc. and there will be more missions to play around with.

If you want to see the game develop and you're interested in it now then back it but if you're looking for a mostly complete experience than wait until 2017

>>152744878
Yeah it's cool the first time.
I think it happens in every High Intensity CZ.

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Daily reminder that cry engine isn't viable for Scam Citizen's MMO features

Game will be shit

>>152744932
>>152744739

You can get wanted and then do a mission to lower the wanted level that initials activation a terminal that basically attracts other player to kill you, live long enough and your wanted level goes down.
You can get a mission to baby sit that terminal as a cop but you might as well tab out with how eventful it is.
And you if you get your space wanted stars all the way up to 5 it will generate a server wide mission to kill you.

>>152745218
>implying they didn't already nigger rig the engine so much it's only barely cryengine at this point
>implying they can't just nigger rig it some more if the need arises

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Even on steam they vote to make ship transfers as unusable as possible.

>>152745550
holy mother of jesus

why is the elite community so autistic?

>>152745218
>armchair developer

Please take your bad bait and leave and stay leave

does turning in bounties still generate a fair amount of federation rank?

>>152745218
Reminder that the source engine was used in making titanfall 1 and 2

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>>152745628
Yes.

There is more to his post but he's just rambling about consoles. And there is one that says insta or low time transports would turn it into candy crush.

As if an unnecessary timer wasn't exactly the type of shit you'd find in mobile games.

They also want some sort of risk, which I can sort of agree with, but they place the chances at 20%+ for failure unless you hire an overpriced Elite pilot and so on.

>>152745218
If they've done even half the work that they've claimed then they need to begin calling it StarEngine

>>152746049
Lots of people bitching that no-one will bother upgrading combat ships' FSDs and just teleport them everywhere. Maybe that's because warships having shitty jump range is a retarded balance mechanic.

>>152746212
Ive said it before but a powerful or boosted FSD should make the shipping cost cheaper. its not like some kind of superfreighter is picking up ships like cargo to send them to you, its some courier flying it (in theory).

>>152742989
Honestly, the way CoD's lore is so soaked in bloodshed and world war, it wouldn't surprise me at all that the earth ends up forming the UEE by the end of Infinite Warfare.

Either that or it's secretly set in Star Trek's Mirror Universe before the dawn of the Terran Empire.

>>152744739

Guys, a heads up.
Believe this or don't, I don't really care.

In S.C on release theres going to be a 'Break drive' implemented, when you're warping to another star you'll be able to break mid warp, between planets/stars/checkpoints there will be 'Easter eggs/Things of worth'

This includes but is not limited to
-Finding lost manned space missions along the lines of cosmonauts lost in the early 20th cent

-Huge non-enterable (for the time being) ships (think of Auriga from A.R and more)

-Easter eggs on the periphery of civilizations (think of the disc's from Independence day)

Some planets will hold easter-eggs

-Prometheus buildings (Scull building which houses the bio-weapon/ship)
-Cities witch city blocks reminiscent to movies (5th element/Blade runner)

and more.

>>152746212
There is literally no point in not upgrading the FSD anyways. I'm not going to travel everywhere in a tiny huge jump range ship and then transport if i can just jump there in like 5 or 6 jumps. If its something like 20-30 then i'll take the jump ship and transfer.

>>152744190
Not him, but what would be the viability of using both? My avenger stock comes with a ballistic nose mount that I absolutely love, but the fixed wing lasers feel a bit underwhelming, although I still like having a laser weapon just so I don't run out of ammo.

>>152745218
>>152745412
friendly reminder that no amount of nigger-rigging can save them from a janky movement system, poor AA implementation and bad performance.

This is going to be Crysis 1 all over again. The case of "it's not optimized, your pc is just bad"

>>152746212
>>152746379
>>152746421

Ship transfers could actually give the armored FSD or faster boot sequence mods a reason to exist for combat ships.

>>152745550

In a sense he's somewhat right but he's putting arbitrary restrictions for no reason other than to have them because muh casuals. In EVE, I can move a lot of my shit, including ships, all at once if I have a ship big enough to haul all of it, or I can pay someone else to do it for me. If I choose to pay someone, usually depending on how much I pay them will determine how fast it'll get done. Elite, however, is a much less complex game than EVE so there's no reason for all this pointless time constriction on everything. Whether you make the wait 1 hour or 48 hours, the end result is the same: You'll get your ship at a new destination. It's not like EVE where player territory matters or being able to quickly move ships and equipment around would unbalance the game. There's nothing to unbalance in Elite because PVP is a joke and the game is almost entirely singleplayer with a mediocre background simulation. We should at least be able to package many ships inside of an Anaconda/T9/Cutter.

>>152746517
Ballistic and energy weapon speeds are too distaff to work well with each other. Hopefully they'll add something to fix this issue so more than two load outs are viable.

>>152746738
I think Faster Boot should be dropped in favor of something like
"Latent Energy Wake"
"Wingmates can choose to touch your wake and freely take your course and jump with a reduced fuel cost, you also use their jump range, and can jump beyond your current limit"
There would probably be diminishing returns with mass though, so you cant use a DBX to take a Corvette places

>>152746420
Doesn't sound that far fetched, but I do hope they add a lot more stations like Grimhex that don't show up on your HUD and are well hidden, it would make exploring a lot more exciting if you could potentially find some hidden gem that has been right under everyones noses the entire time

So I knew it was always the plan, but you can CURRENTLY buy ships with in-game money? Where do you go about doing this?

If what that other anon said is true and racing is the quickest way to get them ducats, then maybe it's time to dust off my Origin350.

Also, when are we getting our super cool race suits?

>>152747159

>There would probably be diminishing returns with mass though, so you cant use a DBX to take a Corvette places

No, go away, yes you can. We need reasons to play together with different ships rather than anyone scrambling for PVP being stuck with either riced up FDLs or Vettes.

>>152747159

Faster boot would allow us to load up on more power hungry modules and put the FSD on low power priority in combat like we used to.

Also it counters FSD-disrupting weapon mods.

>>152746950
I actually don't like having them all the same. I'm not sure about the meta or how the different weapon types behave against different things, but I'd honestly prefer to have a weapon for hitting shields vs armor, or for peppering targets at range vs getting in close and ramming a salvo up their exhaust, or just having something to switch to when the gun overheats. Just filling everything with the same thing and shooting all of them at once feels boring, and from my time with the game so far, it honestly feels like the shields and armor of ships are not all that durable. You can't take much concentrated fire, even just from the main nose gimbal of an avenger without shit starting to fall off and catch fire.

>>152747265
Well maybe you can do it, but you lose the reduced fuel consumption or something. But they definitely need to make Wings cooler

>>152746517
The projectile speed of "lasers" is much faster than the solid slug weapons. Lasers generally have lower range and overall DPS compares to slug throwers, and don't have a chance of shield penetration, but their high accuracy and no ammo restrictions make them very reliable.

Sadly, due to the nature of the game modes in SC right now, mono-boating solid projectile weapons is the meta for the foreseabled future in the Alpha.

>>152746420
>>152747206
>In S.C on release theres going to be a 'Break drive' implemented, when you're warping to another star

What a load of horsepucky

You don't warp anywhere in SC. You take jump points from system to system and quantum drive within systems.

If you're going to fanfic at least have some respect for already existing lore and mechanics.

>>152747468
>and don't have a chance of shield penetration
Can projectile weapons go straight through shields in SC?

>>152747448

Sure, there needs to be drawbacks, but things like scout ships that are able to propel fleet ships farther than what their FSD normally allows is a cool fucking thing that would encourage people to actually wing up for shit rather than "lol lets take out our FDLs go seal club in Eravate/Aisling HQ/whatever CG location." Of course, since Engineers destroyed any semblance of balance in this game, I don't think things like forward scout DBXs would even make a difference anymore.

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space trucker here

does horizons add enough gameplay for me to purchase it now? or should i wait till fdev finishes it?

>mod FSD interdictor with capture arc
>be practically in front of the target and still manage to grab them
>we both immediately fly fucking sideways directly into the planet neither of us was pointed towards

Did they even test these interdictor mods?

>>152747561
I mean I don't really care one way or the other if what he said is true or not, but you're just being picky about the choice of words

Obviously you don't warp anywhere, but the way he said it meant cancelling out the quantum travel and stopping in free space, it's a believable idea, but it really depends on how much they want to populate the galaxy

>>152747697
HAHAHAHA
Horizons added a grind for a roulette game for a chance to upgrade your ship more.

>>152726909
Thread #22

>>152747697
Is there a game with these kinds of ships?

>>152747468
I understand perfectly well that the current state of the game favors a rather artificial meta, in that there is no cost to ammo or real risk of running out, but I'm trying to think ahead a bit to a situation where that is a bit more of a consideration.

As it is, I really, really like ballistic weapons. Everything from their stats to their art assets to the sounds they make. Fuck pew pew, I love the buzzing hum of the avenger's default nose gun as I watch bits of the target ahead fall off like a dead leaf crumbling into the wind. It is so goddamn satisfying.

Guess I'll put some cannons or something on the wings for now, but I was more concerned about on release when I need to pay for every satisfying round of ammo myself. Lasers are much cheaper in the long run, and while I'm not sure how much of a risk it will be, I don't want to ever be stuck out in the middle of nowhere without a loaded weapon when I need one.

>>152747596
It's something like Shields only stop half the damage, and the rest hits the hull

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>>152747776
so beside the occiasional burn cruise on some random dust world, its not worth the 40 bucks yet?

>>152747596
Not straight through, but they can occasionally pass through shields and deal partial damage directly to the target. This gives projectile cannons a pretty big edge in short-term engagements that dominate the current alpha, as there is no "Armor" system implemented yet and the cannons will immediately start damaging ship systems and hull hit points.

This is why people complain about getting rushed by Super Hornets monoboating six Tarantulas and suddenly getting their ship crippled or their cockpit nailed before getting a "shields down" warning.

>>152747885
Chris Roberts has mentioned that he definitely wants ammo-fed weapons to have enough advantages to be "worth it", and he generally likes putting mixed laser/slug loadouts on Naval fighters, if the default F7A and his previous games are anything to go by.

Manually reloading cannons from cargo via EVA may also be a thing in the future.

>>152747774
I'm not being picky you dumb shit. If you drop out of a jump tunnel you fucking die.

Those are mechanics as described by the devs themselves.

>>152748040
Here's the irony. It's not worth it but engineers are a completely pay 2 win feature. A fully upgraded ship is like going from E to A all over again.

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>>152748464
Last I checked the only thing that kills you if you manually fly from olisar to ICC is old age

>>152748048
Sounds like projectile weapons would have the extra advantage of not really having to worry about ammo in an arena environment.

Is monoboating seen as a problem? It happens in Elite as well. You can be tricky and try to use lasers to knock out shields and then switch to kinetics for the hull... or just cover your ship in multicannons and brute force their shields down.

>>152748538
Which part of jump tunnel do you not understand?

>>152748475
I switched to Solo after a thermal shock FDL pushed my shit in hard. I just couldn't be arsed dealing with that.

>>152748364
>Manually reloading cannons from cargo via EVA may also be a thing in the future.

Interesting, and yea, the fact that Roberts seems to like mixed weapons would indicate he would try to favor those loadouts balance wise. I hope he succeeds.

As it is, I get enough of the "use as much of the same gun as possible" meta from ED, which only gets by due ot their shield/armor damage mechanics which let me get along with my laser/multicannon setup on my viper. I want to be able to fit out my ship with a variety of guns intended for different things. A tool for every problem, essentially. The default fittings seem to follow that, at least, and the ship durability is low enough that it may not matter all that much if you have one gun or three trained on the target, so long as you land a few good hits.

Speaking of which, some of the ships seem a bit... spindly. They look nice enough, but I'm honestly worried a few of them will just snap in half after taking a few rounds to the wrong place. Like that hourglass figure on the bomber. It looks like one concentrated burst from port to starboard would outright snap it in two.

>>152748656
>solo
Kill yourself.

>>152748785
>Speaking of which, some of the ships seem a bit... spindly. They look nice enough, but I'm honestly worried a few of them will just snap in half after taking a few rounds to the wrong place. Like that hourglass figure on the bomber. It looks like one concentrated burst from port to starboard would outright snap it in two.

If you're taking about the Retaliator then you might be getting the scale confused. That hourglass part is large enough to have people walk around inside it.

I just shot some guy everyone was shooting and they all turned on me?
He had the wanted status and everything. Why?

>>152748881
Nah I'm okay. Thanks though.

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>yfw the grand New Age of Space Games has been a blunder and SC is last man standing

>>152748912
welcome to elite dangerous, where before killing a criminal you need to scan it with a bullshit scanner that takes 10 seconds
dads defend this just by saying "check your fire"

>>152748965
As much as I like to shit on Elite it's an okay experience as long as you don't expect much from it.

NMS can fuck right orf tho

>>152749005
Fuck me scanner times are obnoxious. Especially planetary scanning. I mean the planet doesn't even try to evade my scan like ships can. It's just 10 seconds or whatever pointing the ship at something.

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>>152748965
>mfw i bought Kinetic Void in 2014 because it seemed so promising
http://store.steampowered.com/app/227160/

>>152748906
I probably am, yea. I still have yet to actually see it myself, just pictures of it so I don't really have a full appreciation of its scale I suppose. I guess it just looks more frail than it really is.

>>152749005
Gotta admit here, I've been bounty hunting all week, never had this problem. I still scan just for the extra money, but if I'm in a rush I'll fire a shot just to get in on the bounty if it looks like they'll die before I can scan them. What is the issue, exactly?

>>152748547
>or just cover your ship in multicannons and brute force their shields down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ1oBDQHhfM

>>152748785
>I want to be able to fit out my ship with a variety of guns intended for different things.

Monofitting in ED can bite you in the ass sometimes because you don't know if your next opponent is going to be an eggshell under massive shields or a sold brick of armor and the shields are only there for show, or missing entirely.

>>152749118
>What is the issue, exactly?
A ship (criminal) was being pursued by security forces. He had the wanted status, but as soon as I opened fire I got a fine and everyone started shooting me.
It just seems a bit odd.

>>152749118
>What is the issue, exactly?
There are two levels of scan for bounties. The basic scan (point ship at target) which brings up their wanted status and bounty. Then the KWS (where you fire the KWS at them) which grants additional bounties in surrounding systems.

If you shoot before the basic scan confirms their wanted status in the system you are currently in the police will murder you. Even if all the cops are currently shooting that criminal.

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>>152737639
WA LA

>>152742310
Does any ship but the cat actually use cargo space efficiently?

>>152748785
>Speaking of which, some of the ships seem a bit... spindly.

It's been mentioned in the Hull-series Q&As that some parts of ships that look fragile, even if they make sense to be weak points, are not going to be particularly vulnerable.

In practice, though, you'll find in the alpha that if something looks like it's easy to snap off your ship, it will snap off in a stiff breeze. See: Cutlass thrusters, Mustang landing skiis, Freelancer guns/winglets.

>>152749118
> I still have yet to actually see it myself, just pictures of it so I don't really have a full appreciation of its scale I suppose.

Here ya go

http://youtu.be/-J9nwSvNLQ4

>>152737639
>WA LA
What did he mean by this?

>>152749118
>>152749234

There are two kinds of scans for bounties. The active kill warrant scan that takes 10sec and requires a utility module, and the passive scan all ships can do.

You have to at least passive scan a target to determine if they're wanted or not before you can open fire on them, even if you see the cops already engaging them, otherwise you get an immediate assault bounty.

And thanks to how the crime reporting system works, a player committing a crime overrides abso-fucking-lutely every other AI priority, instantly attracting the attention of every authority ship in the instance, regardless of how minor the player's offense or even if the cops are already engaged in combat.

>>152749314
Or the 300i's main thruster. I've had the entire engine housing fall off on more than a few occasions. It was one of the main reasons I prefer the Avenger now. Not sure if they fixed the issue, but I honestly chalked it up to being what they meant when the description talks about how some people think it's a bit too fancy for combat. It feels like the kind of problem you'd get from some fat cat boardroom executive who has no idea what combat is like leading the development of a combat ship for rich people.

"Oh, and don't turn too fast or the engine falls out, but other than that, it's great."

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>tfw no Butcher Gunship

>>152749398
jeez I was totally blanking on how to spell it and it's actually voila. I think some people say wa la though

are eurofags really triggered by this

>>152749525
Oh, I see.

That's a bit obtuse.

>>152749617
it's just frogs
Spanish and Italian words sound much better

>>152746107
They do call it that actually

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/4z8nan/cig_asks_for_feedback_do_we_allow_planets_to/

What do you guys think?

To EVE or not to EVE.

>>152746420
>non-enterable ships
I don't believe you

tfw two more weeks of daily grind for muh clipper

then the real game starts

I love the courier tho

>>152749968

grinding ranks or credits? i'm one rank away from my clipper, but i've got about 60 million more credits to grind before i can a-rate it

>>152749229
Well now I want a gunship. That grind tho.

>>152749838
EVE, there is zero question about it. Players need to be able to do stuff to, and have a personal stake in, the game world, or else SC will just be a prettier ED.

>>152746647
>a janky movement system, poor AA implementation and bad performance.
Those are all the same thing you retard. All they have to do is not implement it poorly, which is why they scrapped the first star marine.

>>152750041

both

im going to buy it once I can afford it with one pop of insurance then I will get the rest for A-rate, its more fun that way

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>>152749968
>then the real game starts

tfw you realize grinding credits/ranks is the game

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So Farseer Inc. is a kind of cool looking place with it's landing pads in the canyon, furnace thingies and huge arse tower. FDev need to add more unique places like this. Also traffic control sounds like a hick.

Now I need to find wake scan data to upgrade my FSD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsj0Th6gm60

Why don't we have a racing league?

>>152750090
It just seems unrealistic for a handful of real players to have that much power. EVE handwaves it with lel capsuleers

>>152750143

ah, i really want to pick up the clipper as soon as i have the rank, but my vulture is too comfy. i want a few upgrades at least before i jump in

Holy shit, fighting in the viper mkIV is practically impossible.

Literally every ship out there can outmanoeuvre you.

>>152747262
currently you can rent ships and weapons with REC that you get from
AC

in the PU you can buy things with ingame money, but only fps weapons, spacesuits, clothing so far. and it gets wiped frequently

>>152750402
Let me clarify: Players in SC should be able to have an effect on the game world, not necessarily own it 100%. If there's no personal stake in anything that's happening, there's no reason to play.

>>152749568
300i rework soon brother

>>152750516

vulture is the boringest meme ship ever

>>152750574
So like PP but actually well designed and with actual consequences?

>>152750220
Man why does every ED ship look like a plastic toy?

>>152750262
I wonder what the racers fly these days. I know everyone was posting 860 m/s, Performance Enhanced, Dirty Drive iEagle vids a while ago.

Do we need to grind even to race?

>>152750579
If it's half as good as what that guy in the thread and video proposed it'll make it a good ship.

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>>152749838
ledditers are actually right for once. I absolutely agree with them players need a personal stake or major optional goals. I bet Tony is already planning for this he did work on Runescape after all.

>>152750691
What is PP

>>152750641

super boring, but it let me farm res pretty easily

2.5 when? how come some have it

>>152750941
it's on the test server

>>152750691
Yeah, imagine if PP were remotely worth caring about beyond the handful of modules. Imagine if it involved actual factional warfare and territory control, instead of a convoluted-ass system that ultimately boils down to more loop-trading or farming interdictions.

>>152750878
Power Play in Elite.

It's faction/reputation system that's meant to help players feel like they have a real impact on the world.

It is very badly designed and is nothing but a grind.

>>152749617
>triggered

no we're just laughing at your primary school grasp of language

>ED depth thread on leddet
>dads want advertising and spam messages from ingame companies

>>152750941
The Evocati get it first. They're one step below the QA guys at CIG and have submitted at least dozens of bugs. They're a big step below QA, but one step nonetheless. Next the first-wave testers get it, who've submitted less bugs than the Evocati and seem to include most of the streamers. Then the subscribers get it, which is where we are now. They're fixing some pretty big crashes, so once that's done and it's stabilized it'll be coming to live. It's not a big step towards 3.0, though, but it's interesting if you have a Reliant.

>>152750878
PowerPlay a shitty Risk in space metagame in Elite.

>>152751071
What consequences/benefits would you like for PowerPlay? Making the actual gameplay more dynamic would be great, but I find myself just not giving a shit about the result because it changes basically nothing.

>>152751071
Be nice if CIG can pull it off. How carebear friendly are the devs?

>>152751110

the idea was good

great even but jesus christ did fdev shit all over it

aisling a qt tho

>>152751197
TFW you wanted to bugtest and help them test the game but it takes a week to download the patch

>>152751197
Actually we're on second wave. I received an invite as well.

>>152751197
Ahh ok thanks for the clarification, didn't know how they published stuff.

http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,162400/
>Sandro Sammarco
>Also Known As: Sandy Sammarco
>Game Credits
>Haze (2008) (Lead Designer)
Well that explains a little about why ED sucks.

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>>152751279
One of the best things about 3.0 will be the delta patcher which will drastically reduce patch sizes.

>>152751383
>Mustang Alpha
Yeah that's a pretty reasonable reaction to the Alpha. They did warn you the materials and construction were unsafe.

>>152751180
to be fair the top rated post in that thread is about making the game world more engaging, giving players actual shit to do, and expanding on multiplayer elements

>>152751383
Why are the emotes so perfect? He even looks around first like 'is anyone important gonna see this?'

>>152751379
Should I know what this is?

>>152751586

accurate mo'cap

>>152751661
It was a "Halo killer" released for PS3. You can imagine how that ended.

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Fdev doesn't really listen to retards on the forum right?
Right?

>>152751727
I don't understand his other credits though, Evil Genius seemed alright and Republic was apparently a game with good ideas badly executed, whereas ED is just full of bad ideas badly executed.

>>152751909
Looking at the Design Discussion Forum for Elite I think ED is a case of good ideas, executed badly as well.

>>152751883
They do. It's why we have shit-all for multiplayer/guild mechanics, and why supercruise exists.

>try pvp in SC
>it's just kids who stole moms credit card to buy a hornet doing pinpoint turns in half a second with guns that punch through anything that isnt another hornet in half a second while everyone elses guns overheat even if 100% on target before the shields even dip to critical

I sure hope they aren't paying anyone to balance this, and if they are they should probably lay them off.

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>tfw Chris understands what makes a good game and pays attention to what doesn't work and why
He won't say it because him and Braben are friends, but I guarantee he's learning from the missteps in E:D. Our shitty forums have made all the same demands, solo mode being a big one, and generally been shut down.

>>152752365
Nuuu my phone has outed me as a normie phoneposter

>>152752198

antisupercruise faggots are the worst

grow an attention span moran

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>>152726909
When will star citizen come out and will it be a really empty, shallow game or will it be filled with life? Also will there be any green planets and or planets with variation(desert, forest, jungle, tundra, iceland)?

>>152752491
Yes

>>152752491

it will be a massive disappointment

no game of that scope has ever come out good

>>152752151
I mean Braben gave an interesting talk about the internal politics of the empire but the problem is that all of it is just in his head and not reflected in the game in any meaningful way.

>>152752479
Nah, kill yourself
Not that guy but supercruise would be tolerable only without speed limiters, right now it's just what another good addition to space truck sim experience

>>152752595
but they have over $100 million to do it, and still growing. how can they fail?

>>152752596

ED lore is generally seriously good

FFE was chock full of it and it made it pretty great, wonder if braben came up with all that stuff himself.

its certainly miles ahead of that horrid drew wagar stuff

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>>152752260
Balance is shit right now especially since alot of things are waiting on item 2.0. It is possible to win but you can almost never move in a straight line and master decouple.

If you are interested getting into dog fighting right now it's probably best to grind some rec so you have an equal footing

Also these videos are good if you have the time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsYk5fV25Og&list=PLEgJY_N_9BcrNy-uW8OwV3SHXYivl1x-Q

>>152752198
>and why supercruise exists.
Supercruise's premise is not a huge problem. It's just Star Trek warp. Just the numbers FDev plugged in result in shitty boring gameplay.

>>152752720
Thanks, I'll check them out. I'm just salty right now, I know hornets are superiority fighters but if this is how it launches in the final game then you're just fucking done for if a hornet ever attacks your mining or transport ship without another hornet escorting you.

>>152752198
>>152752479
>>152752643
supercruise needs to be removed entirely
flying across a star system should take place at a 1:1 time scale and not this arcadey 15 min. faster-than-light bollocks

>>152752715
Fa/tg/uy here. He talks like a Game Master. His lore is damn solid and he clearly loves it.

Problem is he can't seem to get any of it reflected into the actual game mechanics.

>>152752479
Yes, staring at a screen and doing absolutely nothing for long stretches of time is pretty compelling gameplay, but I can still see why some people might not like it.

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>>152752902

Fuck you dad

>>152752715
Outside, pitching arse over nose, the freighter they'd murdered scattered its guts and prolapsed its crew. Shat its atmosphere with hideous grace and an undeniably romantic sparkle.
And so:
She laughed her breathless laugh. She groaned her mannish groan. She rolled her eyes and repositioned her legs, a lizardlike yank, a feral smile, to pull him deeper inside.
'Myquel,' she whispered, gripping him. 'Myquel Dobroba Pela-LeSire Lequire.'
It had become her habit, he'd noticed, to murmur his name at least once during sex. Just as it had become his to wonder, when she said it, if she were adoringly savouring the syllables or mocking the pomposity of his having so many. Whichever it was (and with Teesa there was a good chance it was both) the neurotic uncertainty was always banished within moments. Her next movement, her next shudder, her next moan. There simply wasn't room in his brain, he'd accepted, for both her and rational thought.
'We should rabbit,' he mumbled, clinging feebly to common sense. 'Right? Snag the goodies and go.'
She ignored it. Another flex of her legs. A groan. A re-anchoring of her hips. He'd known she would.

>>152752671

its very easy to splooge all that cash especially since CR always had a major movieboner and ran a mildly successful movie company

my guess is SC will at best reach a half finished state

at worst they might never release the PU. I really like what I've seen so far but working in finance I kind of know money flow. My job only exists because corporations know how easy it is for funds to spiral out of control.

If CIG dont keep a competent accounting department they will fail

>>152752596
See all that shit about Federation, Imperial and Alliance politics should have been represented in Powerplay and the BGS.

Thousands of shitty minor factions? Fuck that, reduce it to a number that people can remember and relate to.

In the Federation interstellar mega corporations control systems. In the Empire Senators control things. Not sure how the Alliance works but make all this impact the game world. Make the Empire, Federation and Alliance control mechanics work differently, with different laws and whatnot.

>>152752491
Supposedly at citizencon they'll be showing off procedural vegetation
So yeah jungle planets

>>152752967

that shit dont even count I was talking braben lore from FFE

the game had newspapers coming out every month for over ten ingame years

>>152753031
but then how can we have our xbox hueg spess battles?

>>152749838
>CIG asks for feedback "... do we allow planets to change hands politically as a result of player actions?"

I better fucking hope so. After all my spess terrorism should have an effect.

>>152752932
At the very least it is 1) interactive and 2) a place to get interdicted.

At the very least it's more compelling than Quantum Travel. I just wish they'd push up the potential velocity you can get with it. It works great in any system except in systems where there's one single goddamn station a fucking light-day away from the main star. Or a binary star like Alpha Centauri where the secondary is fucking goddamn hours away.

Just let us fucking jump over to that star too, like a system with two hypserspace targets, or count them as two systems or something.

>>152753031

I like the minor faction idea. You cant run an interstellar political body hands-on, most of your subjects will be de facto independent just paying lip service and taxes

they dont even have FTL communication

So how much of a difference does diverting power actually make in SC?

I've tried playing around with it and it doesn't really seem to make a difference to me.

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>>152753194
I actually prefer quantum travel by a fucking longshot for one reason: overshoot. I just want to set the bloody thing on autopilot for those stretches of goddamn 200,000Ls and have it ease me in and drop out when necessary. If they're going to force us to go the entire fucking distance they better include quality of life shit like autopilot, I don't want to be off by .003 degrees and end up taking my eyes off the screen for a bit just to end up 125Ls away from my goddamn stop again. That's essentially what Quantum Travel is: Supercruise without the micromanagement horseshit.

>>152753274
I read some guy's reddit blog about how shield managment actually saved his ass in a vanguard.

>>152752491
it's going to be a beautiful, twisted, broken monstrosity for at least the next couple of years With all the shit that is going to be in it, it'll definitely be FUN, but probably not for the right reasons.

>>152753194
- Add intrasystem micro-jumps. This basically solves the problem of binary and multiple star systems travel times.
- Add a "Flight Assist OFF" mode which takes the shackles off the FSD and lets you accelerate / decelerate like a motherfucker. Push the throttle all the way forward and accelerate to 2,000c in a few seconds.
- FAOn is basically for safe drops into instances.

This may break interdictions, but it would be worth it.

>>152753418
QD also has the advantage that the game knows where you're going and can prepare anything it needs in advance.

>>152753243
"Real time communication with multiple security bla bla bla"

From what I get it seems like they do, but it's either expensive or can only send simple transmissions. At least from the perspective of how the modules work.

>>152753243
It also works better that way from the fluff perspective. Like what he was talking about in the interview, the players are largely disliked by the locals because they are seen as gypsies. All these minor factions have their own worries and you likely don't give a damn, which is why they don't like you at first. After you start working for them for a while you remember their faction more easily and they remember you. I think small minor factions work out great, since it gives you more options and works with the fluff quite well, plus a smaller faction with smaller territory is much more easy to relate to. Who gives a shit about the empire's one system when it has all these others, but this one little minor faction, well that's their only agri-system and that plague is starving billions, better get that research data to that tech lab fast for a cure.

>>152753418
Like I said, they desperately need to make the speed limit on that thing higher. The gravity limitations is fine, hell it helps me avoid overshooting my target all the time, but for those deep space stretches the ship needs to go faster.

>>152753559
That's just not how the FSD works fluffwise. It's hampered by gravity wells, not as a safety measure. They just need to buff up the gravity well-free speed you can get to and how fast you can get to it once free of a gravity well..

>>152753670
>That's just not how the FSD works fluffwise. It's hampered by gravity wells, not as a safety measure. They just need to buff up the gravity well-free speed you can get to and how fast you can get to it once free of a gravity well..
I know, but it would be fun to have a lot more freedom with the velocity we can achieve. It's just fiction and they could change shit if they felt like it.

Changing the top speed vs. gravity relationship would help. I doubt there's more than a handful of players in the game that have hit 2001c.

>>152753845

what if you had the option of going sanic fast supercruise in a system with the added risk of being pulled into a star or planet if youre not careful?

>>152753927
And then dads make the chance like, 40% of just imploding and vaporizing against the surface of a planet or star, and suddenly things are a lot worse.