/edg/ & /scg/: Elite: Dangerous & Star Citizen General

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>That feeling when ship with best HUD can't fly around Crusader.

It's so nice when you can actually read everything.

hosting parties in my t9 cargo rack when?

2.5 when?

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You forgot to put thread number 21 in the OP.

>>152672954
The Cobra being the only ship facing sideways is what's tickling my autism

repost

What specs do you have to play SC without constant dips. Backed from day 1, just recently fired up the test client for the first time to be nigh unplayable.

>>152673120
awkwardddd

>>152673113
CIG, hire this guy and then give me a ship for helping acquire him

>>152673180
Fucking liar, I want to punch that deformed face of him so badly.

>>152673113
>didn't move the radar globe down so it's not so close to the crosshairs

>>152673196
Are you playing single player or multi? You'll get bad FPS in multi regardless because of the bad netcode.

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Added proper Corvette and Cutter models.

>>152672954

Should be the other way around. SC should have blue names and E:D orange.

>>152673196
The baby PU is server network, and not client machine. I've gotten beautiful 60 FPS before on the PU, only to have it drop once more people joined.

Gtx 970 and Ivy Bridge i5 will easily get you 60 FPS in Arena at least.

>>152673409
How CPU bound is it?

>>152673120
did we already have that much?

>>152673385
See >>152673140

>>152673383
wait, theres a single player? The menu is so badly explained and laid out i never even knew

>>152673581
Probably cause it's the only ship wider than it is long.

>>152673643
Vanduul Swarm and Free Flight

>>152673643
Arena Commander - Drone Sim

That's singleplayer. No SP PU to my knowledge.

>>152673180
>think of this a a game of thrones game

Wait, what?

>>152673752
>>152673749
Ah, i see

Well, guess I better wait another few years for a stable test client.

>>152673474
it actually uses hyperthreading, so eventually, very. right now: meh.

>>152673870
you ill need a quad core though

>tfw no hull ship at $150
Why did they make such a massive jump from B to C?

>>152674260
they knew everyone will want C

>>152673803
Should be December this year.

>>152673474
Not too bad. Currently a bug with core 0 maxing out though. And the networking sends too many updates which tax the CPU.

>>152673995
>>152673870
>>152674538
I have a very old i7 950, OC'd to 4GHz, and I just got a 1080, haven't found a game that put my CPU to 100%, not even SC, but it runs TERRIBLY, so I was wondering that.

>>152674427
source?

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> I think, by their very nature, some roles on a ship are going to always be less instantly impactful than others
>less instantly impactful than others
Interesting way to say 'shit'

>>152674576
I used to have an old first gen i5 and that thing was never the bottleneck.

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>>152673995
I run a 22 core Xeon, although I've got an empty second sockt and hope to run a second one.

Updated Idris size and shape to new fat frigate-Idrii

Black or yellow for the Drake Dragonfly?

Yellow is more interesting but black should make a harder target. I am picking one up on the grey market and can't decide.

>>152674841
>22 core xeon
That's not good for gaming anon...

>>152674260
>>152674416
And because they want people to consider moving onto the internally-held cargo path at that stage rather than dedicating to external-cargo ships. They're basically two different playstyles; High value internal cargo transporter vs low value external pods

>>152674901
Go yellow, it'll be worth something in the PU because it's exclusive to the concept sale

>>152674901
Yellow is sexier but if it's more expensive then don't bother

>>152674952
No, it definitely is. Let's me multi task, I like to work on my art commisions in photoshop while doing long cargo runs listening to music and sometimes hosting a server for a mate or rendering After Effect while gaming.

I'm at an impasse, I'm looking for a nice HOTAS setup that will last.

Obviously Saitek is out immediately. The price is nice for the features but the build quality is shit--what should I expect from a Mad Catz subsidiary?
I'd love to get the TM Warthog of course but I don't feel comfortable spending $400 for HOTAS.

I've been looking at the CH brand Fighterstick to start with but most standalone throttles either suck shit (too light for resistance so it goes all over the desk, linear movement) or are $250-300. Could anyone recommend a decent pairing without spending half a paycheck?

Why can't an A grade courier kill a fucking cobra MKIV?

>>152674829
I've just read >>152673383
I'll check SP when I get back to my rig in two weeks...

>>152675281
The X-55 is GOOD for its money

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>>152675281
Did you look at the upcomming TH Hotas? Should be plenty buttons for $120. Looking at it to replace my X52.

>>152675336
because you are literally trash

an A grade courier can stand toe to toe with most anything that lands on a small pad

>>152674983
IIrc it was said that you could get the Yellowjacket in the PU but it will be much rarer

>>152674952
Still better than what AMD has to offer at this point in time. You could run the game 5 times with it.

>>152675449
>twist

no

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is there a released game that looks as good as elite but isn't just space truck simulator?

>>152675435
>Mad Catz
>No guaranteed warranty, could be anywhere from 90 days to 2 years and they're very picky
>Support is dancing around my questions about warranty info
>200 dollarydoos
I don't think so senpai

>>152675449
I've had my eye on it, looking to see what the throttle is like before I even consider purchasing
Also
>>152675797
Fucking this

>>152675281
Used my x52 for 2 years without any problems.

>>152675458
Why can't a sidewinder kill an elite corvette?

>>152675458
Tried staying behind his ass but in the end we were both staring at each other, and even tho i had thee fixed beams i kept loosing every headon and got to 63% hull before even disabling his shields

>>152675797
choices are warthog, ch or vkb then

>>152675281
T.16000 and a ch throttle.

>>152675797
Just lock it m8. But other than that I only looked at some expensive CH shit.

Does Logitech make Hotas anymore or did they stop after their first attempt?

>>152675797
Then get a CH combat/fighter stick

I JUST WANTED TO SAY

That merging the threads was the best decision ever, haven't had so much fun in... ever.

Please don't split them when the normies flood and we have more numbers of shitposters than needed ;_;

>try out a titan
>overheat 3 times trying to get through a hornet's shields while he just sits there


They aren't actually planning on releasing the game like this are they?

>>152675567
I really want a second one, I managed to get it for only $500 on ebay. It's a slightly used E5-2699 v4.

>>152675924
X52s made pre MadCatz takeover are still good. I got one and it's been going for 6 or so years now.

>>152675986
They gave up on the mid and high end market after their last hotas failed.(great stick but they charged too damn much for it) They just make the cheapass g13 stick now

>>152675281
I would recommend going with a x52/pro yes there are quality control issues because of Mad Catz but I still think it is the most solid entry in the X what ever line up from Saitek.
Mine has been solid, although there is a fear is will crap out on me electronics repair so it dose not bug me personally. In the end the savings justifies the quality gamble for me.

But yeah wait and see how this guy turns out >>152675449
Looks pretty good so far.

>>152676313
Shame I almost got that system back then but heard the throttle jumped ranges in places.

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>>152676097
We'll have to eventually split once SC releases in full, as org posting and just it generally being actually alive will make E:D posts get lost in a sea of SC. But that's still a few years away, so enjoy it while it lasts.

We'll always be fellow space cadets, though, comrade.

>>152676101
Some cocksucker decided all Gatling guns should overheat superfast. They'll probably adjust it back when they do the next big item overhaul

>>152676080
Has anyone tried using two sticks instead of HOTAS? Does it work well?

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OH FUCK

i just found a bunch of images I saved from when SC was initially announced. I remember the /v/ thread planning our empire and how we would kill all rediitors.

posting what i have

>>152676221
I spend about double for the clockspeed on a 5960X and I am pleased with my 45-50% oc on it.
Don't need the core count for my little PS or Premiere work.

>>152675898
>No guaranteed warranty
I live in Europe
>200 dollarydoos
Got it for 140 or so.

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>>152676561
The original idea was to all buy the shittiest ships we could, fit them with powerful weapons and engines and just use them to swarm

A richfag would buy the top tier ship for us to use as a homebase, raiding and plundering our way across the galaxy.

cringy shit

>>152676561
Do you have the one where it's a bunch of space games being destroyed by EA and then Chris Roberts flies in to save the day. That image was so full of optimism.

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>>152676528
>org posting

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>>152676696
There was some pretty good OC made in those first few threads, where did all that optimism go?

>>152676713
Searching for it, im pretty ure i do

>>152676850
/v/ is ADHD: the board. If something takes any amount of time they get super butthurt and start crying vaporware and scam.

>>152676560
What for? It worked for Steel Batallion but I see no reason to replace the throttle with another stick, that'd just be an oversized xbox controller.

>>152676985
So you don't have to twist to yaw.

>>152676973
The cucking happened, so /v/ became just so much worse

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this one may not be as nostalgic as the others but it's still something

>>152676985
Now I just had a terrible idea.

Bind pitch and roll to the right stick as usual. Yaw to the left stick. Throttle to a set of pedals from a racing wheel.

>>152677146
Pedals. The really cheap TM for the PS3 I had also had some left right axis for that on the throttle.

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https://officialrecords.broward.org/OncoreV2/showdetails.aspx?id=60086811&rn=0&pi=0&ref=search

>Derek Smart loses his home, along with his shit

Can someone in Florida document this, TMZ style?

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>almost 2 years ago

I bought ED on August 12 and have since clocked 100 hours.

I ALMOST enjoy this game, part of it is obviously nostalgia because I played the shit out of First Encounters as a kid.

But I love the open galaxy, the combat, sounds, cool ships and the RNG politics going on.

But it gets grindy as fuck. And Frontier could add so much cool stuff into this instead they add lunar fucking rovers and hurr passenger missions.

How to fix this game? And no, deleting supercruise is not the way to do it, ED needs to be a slow game.

SC 2.5 and Reliant Game Package when?

>>152677357
Pedals on an office chair are awful.

>>152676560
Some people swear by dual stick set ups. And it's not bad for games like SC where you don't need to nurse a throttle constantly. But there just aren't a lot of good left hand stick options. Basically just the thrustmaster 1.6000 and the ch flight stick.

>>152676850

>where did all that optimism go?

Reddit.

>>152677461
>And Frontier could add so much cool stuff into this
So what cool stuff would you add?

>>152677476
>2.5
Sometime this week hopefully
>Reliant game package
Hopefully never, Reliant is trash

>>152677385
No one in this thread is crazy enough to live in Florida.

My hotas is the 40 buckaroo cheapy. Thrustmaster somwthing.

I bound super cruise and jump to the twist and roll to the throttle buttons

Its a work in progress and i admit i suck at flying.

>>152677541
Not him
All i would add is player guilds and guild controlled system
Give players a fucking reason to play together

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>>152675449
I'm actually interested in that setup because the throttle allegedly has an analog thumbstick.

And because I hate my spring & plate x52 pro.

>>152677510
Never had issues but that's personal preference I guess.

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>>152677460

>>152677652
Nice crop, ya ding dong.

Herald vs dadbra 3.

Both are supposedly straight line speedsters.

>>152677385
Oh wow it's in Broward, closer than I thought. Was expecting it to be farther up north

>>152673684
There's the sidewinder as well, and why are some ships facing downward with no apparent reason?

>>152677461
They really need to decide what kind of game they're trying to make.

If it's an MMO, make it an actual functioning MMO rather than making any kind of player interaction a pain in the arse. Allow players to actually affect the game, with player-factions/guilds, player stations and an actual economy.

If it's a single-player game, add some actual narrative that doesn't require thousands of people circle-jerking over audio signals that your average player never even encounters. The story in E:D is completely irrelevant to most players.

Either direction needs a huge amount of change though.

>>152676654
Congratulations.

>>152677461
If they delete supercruise it'll get even slower :^)))))))))))

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>>152677460

>>152674719
Gamescom video in OP

>>152677969
Thanks?

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>>152677510
Vkb made some designed specifically for office chairs. But they're pricey and lack toe breaks

>>152677892
There are audiologs and a story in E:D? Where?

>>152677714
I think the analog stick is on the index finger, look up some more pictures and its above the paddles on the back

>>152678147
I think he means the unknown probe signals.

>>152678109
brb hat

>>152678147
You have to find it, CMDR!

Safe flying :-)

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>>152678147
Not audio logs, unknown probe signals that can be analysed in a spectrograph to get incredibly cryptic shit.

>>152678278
Aye

>>152678175
Yeah, but it's still not confirmed to be analog afaik.

>>152677517
I'm the anon that's already pretty much set on a CH stick already, would getting two be worth it? Are there enough functions without having to do so gayass modeswitching shit?

>dogfighting the only other guy in the area
>we're jousting eachother
>REAR SHIELD CRITICAL
>REAR SHIELD DOWN
>YOU ARE DEAD


why is SC combat so shit?

>>152677385
That's what happens when you spend all day shitposting and not making money for your mortgage payments, I guess.

>>152674983
>>152675070
I went with the yellow, it was the same price.

>>152678107
Now you understand how I felt when you posted that dumb ass shit. It's the equivalent of 'works on my system :^)'

>>152675836
Why would we play Elite then?

>>152678357
They're good for the deformed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Gw0amS2sw
Jesus fucking christ combat between competent players is crazy

>tfw even when Thargoids come out they will pose zero threat and bring barely any content

What's a good loadout for the Asp Explorer?
Running 4 gimbled beam lasers and 2 medium railfuns but I can't kill shit

>>152678601
Aren't they ambidextrous?

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>>152678478
>jousting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpyUYDdgxoQ

>>152675836
You could try Evochron but it looks ugly per HUD design for me.

The answer is no though.

>>152678662
I meant more to say that somehow when only the front of my ship was visible to him he destroyed my rear shields and killed me.

>>152678498
You had two complaints and I explained why they weren't an issue for me.

>>152678357
The ch flight stick is a bit button starved, but combined with the ch fighter stick it would probably be sufficient.

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>>152678624
>smelly dog cock

>>152678720
If the bubble of the shields is bigger at the rear that can apparently happen.

>>152678670
who's this emo retard?

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>>152678750
Forgot image

>>152678815
do you like bubbles?

is elite dangerous worth sinking my time into? you all just seem to be interested in SC

>>152679104
SC is the upcoming hottness.
ED had it's launch and has a smaller playerbase, which is massively divided.

>>152679235
so that's a..'no'?

>>152679104
If you can pick it up on a sale it's fun for a few hours. It's really just a shallow grindfest though.

>>152679307
Do you like hauling shit from A to B so you can get a overpowered peice of shit, faceroll for a while then wish you had the time back?

>>152678976
What?

>>152678643
Pls respond

>>152679379
i'd like a galaxy sized sandbox

>>152679307
I bought it yesterday. Still can't log in, stuck in some e-mail code verification loop, waiting on customer service now.

>>152679494
>space engine

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>>152678670

>Flawless arguments that stand on amazing research.
>Zero speculation and salt, only the purest of facts. No nitpicking involved.

We should probably go home guys a video from 2015 told us and we didn't listen.

>>152679379
yes sir

>>152679508
okay but that's really not a gameplay issue now is it?

>>152679104
Elite is usully referred as korean grindfest for a reason since grinding things in game is a substitute for gameplay over at ftroop.

Its better with a friend if only to take your mind off how boring it is.

>>152679630
did I say it was, lol?

>>152679379
It's weird that Eurotruck 2 is a great "space trader", I actually enjoy hauling stuff from A to B. But I can't figure out exactly why I enjoy it, just zone out while driving a virtual truck.

I can't enjoy E:D hauling missions. I wonder why.

>>152678641

They will either pose zero threat or be more annoying than getting interdicted every 2 jumps by PA/Railgun packing FDLs and gunships.

Either way, go kill 10 thargoid ships in this CZ, commacho!

>>152679494
You won't find it here.

See: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/282849-Depth-and-Motivation-in-E-D-the-case-for-corporations

>>152678624
>crazy
That looks easy as fuck... If this is top tier ship-play... If it only comes down to weapon combination and basic flight, I feel bad for you.

>>152679967
Euro truck is continuous, ED has lots of stops and starts.

>>152679428
I was asking whether you like bubbles or not

>>152679967
Because there is a difference between driving on roads with something to see and some input and flying from jump point to jump point.

>>152679967
Simple, the Truck games require you to actually drive. You drive along a route, follow the rules of the road and see different scenery.

ED on the other hand, makes you sit through several loading screens before you simply point yourself in a direction and wait 10 minutes before you arrive at your destination. You're barely even flying your ship.

>>152680183
For what purpose?

>>152680059
There's actually a decent amount of agreement in that thread.

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So, my friend and I have grown an interest in Star Citizen, but we don't know much about the game.

We are interested in online co-op play and we've seen that there where some"issues" or "miss information" regarding that.

We are looking to purchase some package but are unsure on what we will get or if there's co-op playable already, can some kind anon/s help here?

thank you in advance.

>>152679967

Because there really isn't much to see in Elite. I have Eurotruck as well and I love it, and the reason I like it is because driving the truck takes a little bit of input from you, and seeing the different environments around you is nice, even if they are only gradual changes due to the limitations of the game.

In Elite, everywhere looks the same. There's no variation really between systems. It's fucking suffering when I'm hauling between two systems that have the same station design and same star class because I can actually forget where I am in my route sometimes. I'm actually excited for the new station interiors and things like that, it will add flavor to the game and make everything seem less dead. I wish they would add more things like this instead of useless garbage like Engineers. Have landing crew that you can see running around unloading yours and other's ships and refueling ships, and have some pads be taken for while you're in the instance by ships being repaired, and you can SEE them being repaired. Have ships gathered around on the outside of stations and make some systems be busier than others (though this is hard to do because of the stupid fucking mailslot that is unnecessarily small.) Have more station advertisements than silly static ship manufacturer logos and make up actual products like EVE's Quafe to make the world feel more alive rather than it just revolving around the player character. Have some stations be falling in disrepair. Just small shit like that, that makes the world feel more complete and whole instead of fuckery like Engineers that ruins game balance and adds nothing but grind to the game.

>get in a haz res to get bounties
>it's open play
>there's another dude already
>steals every fucking bounty there's
Thansk Fdev

>>152680325
The couple of token forum dissidents who post in every thread and whom the general dadpulace ignores. As in literally has them on ignore list.

The general consensus is "having fun is not what Elite is about neither in 1984 nor now, so fuck off and leave us alone with our dead game"

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>we want some Wing Commander screen caps

Say no more!

>>152680673
No one said that.

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>>152679581
>amazing research is googling stuff and hear-say
>purest of facts

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>>152680728
You sure?

>Frontier's David Braben is now David Braben OBE after being named in the Queen's Birthday Honours list.

what the fuck, the queen must have really enjoyed elite

>>152680304
I wondered it and thought that asking it was the next logical step

>>152681001
Chris. Please. The movie was shit, man. Let it go.

>>152681032
he also did some other bullshit

>>152681205

like what, Kinectimals?

>>152680486
Game's in Alpha, purchase/pledge at your own risk (Would wait for December and see if 3.0 comes out).

Game will be multiplayer and have single-player campaign (Squadron 42) which will have missions that you'll be able to play co-op (but not drop in mid mission).

Currently you can play multiplayer in their various modules so if by co-op you mean fucking around with your buddy, sure there's co-op now.

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>>152681127
Never! It has top notch space battles.

Is it me or someone says "arty" when you boost in the courier?

>>152681105
Well I don't know.

So in SC how do I get guns to outfit my ships with? Do I just have to buy other ships and tear them off, or what?

>>152681268
I forgot how horrid he made the Kilrathi.

>>152680486
There's co-op play aready but there's not much yet to do besides fly around and shoot stuff. Also the multicrew ships are terrible, and you guys would probably have more fun just flying around in a couple of the cheaper ships like the aurora LN or avenger titan

>>152680990

>>152681418
post the battle with the thargoids

>>152681263
So we can co-op on the PvE module and fuck around in the PvP module?

>>152681376
Either use credits on Voyager Direct or rent them with REC on the Electronic Access panel. Keep in mind that there is currently no way to earn credits without spending money.

All on their website.

>>152681312
No problem, thanks anyway.

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>>152681541
Gimme a sec will make a webm

>>152681569
You can coop in the PvP module as well

>>152681376
Voyager Direct

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>your bridge will never be this good

>>152681234
He was involved in Raspberry Pi

And I dunno, the original Elite is old and influential enough in britcuckland that the queen might have well enjoyed it

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>>152680990
>>152681532

Do weapons bought with REC carry over on ships into the PU?

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>>152681603
>>152681376

>you have to separately pay real money for guns once you've bought your ship for real money

>>152681032
>>152681776
The Raspberry Pi is cool. Elite was a big deal ages ago.

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webm coming

>>152681928
pls no...

>>152681376
You rent them from the website. They haven't added a way to get them in game yet.

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>>152681969
you'll love it I promise

>>152681771
Literally the bridge of an every day cargo ship.

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>>152681516
>>152681759
It seems there's plenty to do then.

Will we be too fucked if we play with KB and mouse?

And whatever we do is already persistent or will it be wiped out when the game official releases?

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TELL ME THIS DOESN'T MAKE YOU HARD

>>152681569
There's a sandbox mode with a few stations to fly around, a race track mode, free for all arena combat mode, team based arena combat mode, and a versus npc bots survival arena combat mode.


Also a capture the flag mode, but that should be avoided.

>>152681376
2.6 will most likely let you buy ship weapons and equipment will aUec from Dumper's Depot.

>>152681376

Play arena commander and earn REC. Spend REC on ships and guns.

>>152681541
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wPG8fDQknE

>>152682273
>ships are still falling apart like legos 17 years later
Literally zero progress has been made.

>>152682273

>THANKS FC YOU FUCKING IDIOT

>>152681850
The weapons do, but rented ships don't.

>>152682216
Keyboard and Mouse is a-ok. Maybe even better than sticks depending on who you talk to. I use both depending on how I'm feeling.

We're still in alpha so everything is being wiped constantly.

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>>152682273
Where are the thargoids? You lied to me, anon.

>>152682273
I was hoping for the torpedo scene.

>>152682407
fucking lol'd, ty senpai

>>152682216

KB and mouse are superior in every way.

Everything in Alpha will be wiped out. There is a debate if people will retain something when it's the Beta, though.

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>>152682437
Kilrathi, Thargoids, all xeno scum

>>152682561
:^)

>>152682206
we just need an old cargo ship that is no longer in service and then some wizards to hook up gameplay in the cargo ship
you could have people doing damage control below decks and monitors where the windows should be on the bridge so you can display outer space action

even just being able to get one of those stupid set ups they had at those movie theaters that shook the seats of the audience and setting up a fake ship bridge on it would be cool

>>152682216
Currently the stuff you do in the pu gets wiped every patch. Also mouse control depends on ship. Some are great with mouse, some suck and some can do either depending on how they're equiped.

>>152682273
The space battle from Call of Duty: Infinity is more interesting, and it's a god damned Call of Duty game.

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>>152682561
Even more for you

>>152682972
Fuck off Michael Bay

>>152683018
did that ship just magically become smaller?

>>152682972
Does infinity have actual flight, or are the fighters just on rails shooting gallerys?

Why does my ship click and hum after warping to a new system?

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Sorry for the delay, I know you were all eagerly awaiting it

>>152678643
You need a FDS drive to fly to other planets

>>152683835
>the minigun is the same size as the fighter
I still hate that design.

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>>152683614
I believe the camera panned back to show the battlecruiser firing its tubes

>>152684034
Chris was afraid of being sued by George Lucas.

>>152683746
Actual flight in a confined space. Think Star Fox' All Range Mode sections.

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>>152684034
Easily the worst design in the history of sci-fi.

>>152681603
>>152681901

What the fuck? Purchased ships do not come with lazerz?

>>152678624
>Jesus fucking christ combat between competent players is crazy
Really? Looks super slow and boring to me.

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>>152683936
>frame drive shift drive

>>152683835
Looks like some poorman's Star Wars, and Chris is proud of it. Whenever I see him talking about it it reminds me of those parents who celebrate that their 20yo mongoloid son has managed to tie his shoes on his own.

>>152684457
Just rent the guns, Chris needs the money.

>>152684457
They do. Just other guns you have to rent or buy for now. Renting currency is relatively easy to get though.

>>152684457
Yes, but they're shitty lasers, because CIG thinks mixed gimbal/fixed loadouts are totally viable

>>152678624
you get more intense dogfights in Warthunder

>>152684786
why aren't you playing warthunder then :^)

>>152684134
This is wing commander right? I found a 1080 bluray rip.

>>152684869
I am.

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>>152683018
I fucked up that one, reposting

>>152684628
Eeeeeh it was fine for its time

>good spess fights and sfx
>hot woman
>spess
>aliums
>wormholes

>>152684679
>renting currency

what?

Can't get used to joystick. Got both SC and Elite Dangerous and both games are overwhelming in the complexity of their control schemes. If I was advising someone on learning WASD I'd point them to a simpler game like Portal to build up basic control muscle memory and spatial skills. If it was basic controller skills I'd suggest a mario game for limited button controls.

So what's a good game to get to learn joystick on?

>>152684907
yeah

>>152685019
Playing Arena Commander gives you REC at the moment, which can be used to rent ships or guns on the website.

>>152685019
You heard me.

>>152685105
What exactly can't you get used to?

>>152680119
>>152684487
>>152684786
This is not a good example of top-tier dogfighting, this is a 4v1 gank by SDC, who has a handful of good pilots, but mostly they're just a bunch of obnoxious furries.

>>152685105
ED

>>152685105

Try Wing Commander.

>>152685105
Just play Elite or SC. No point in learning it somewhere else if you just got the stick for those games.

is horizons worth it or should i just go back to playing NMS?

>>152685197
>top-tier dogfighting
>in ED
lol okay, tell me again how that works out as the game doesnt really seem to have systems in place that even make it possible aside from jousting and ramming by the looks of it.

>>152685314
What do you even mean? What systems would there need to be besides 6dof flight to make dogfighting possible?

>>152677635
I'm on vacation in Florida if that counts

>>152685185
It's been two things. 1: Button Overload. 2: Lack of a single unified default control scheme.

What happened last time I tried was that it was just way too much to learn at once. Having to do some customization to get the set up to a good spot meant that as a newbie I had to deal with all kinds of options and buttons while I was trying to build joystick muscle memory. Throw in not being 100% what set up (which axis to put pitch, roll, strafe on) to use and it was very quickly more frustrating then fun to try to earn my wings.

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>>152684993
>crap WW2 dogfights, crap sfx
>"""hot""" women
>literally not space, more like WW2 submarine movie, complete with hiding from depth charges
>aliens are unbelievable hideous and fake looking, even the Kilrathi fursuits from the games looked better
>wormhole sfx looks worse than an early 90s budget TV show

It was crap for its time and crap now.

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Not far now boys

>>152685742
You are just hating to be contrarian, I take pity on ED and SC's devs that they have to deal with people like you.

>>152685741
What HOTAS are you using? And yeah, unified default control scheme will be difficult to adjust to, especially because all these games play so differently. I'd say try getting used to SC first in free flight.

You'd probably freak out from the thousand different customization options in Falcon BMS.

>>152686139
Thrustmaster t16000M. No throttle. Just keyboard.

I got good enough to take off and fly about in ED but I never hit the point where it felt comfortable.

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>>152686052
Fuck you. I actually enjoy the movie, that doesn't stop it from being crap.

I hate people like you who have to cover up fair criticisms of a show just because they're a rabid fanboy.

Also, if anyone is contrarian, it's you, since the vast, vast majority of people think the movie is crap.

i was paid to cheer in this video : )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l-epO6oUHE

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>buy Saitek x52Pro
>play good three months ED with it
>feelsgood.jpg
>get bored and fall off the hype train (yea I kinda had a moment like that)
>don't use my hotas for a few moths but didn't unplug them
>now the joystick is fucked and kaput. just blinks and stop working for a few seconds then and now
>reinstall driver and use another usb port won't work

fucking useless saitek garbage REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>152685585
Inertia to make energy fighting possible for one. But I guess what happens when you have retro thrusters is that it takes all the fun out of fighting.

So will each new "season pass" for elite include the content for previous seasons? I'm not sure whether to buy Horizons or wait until the game is actually finished to fork over my money.

>>152686631
Thats what you get for buying Saitek

>>152686631
Should've bought one from before the takeover.

>>152686685
They changed that after all that negative feedback with Horizons being a standalone didn't they?

It'll probably be regular DLC now, but really I don't know.

>>152686631
Always unplug if you don't use a peripheral for over a week, man.

>>152685314
Well, there's a bunch of different ships all with different speed, agility, weapon types and positions on the hull, and shield/hull toughness values.

On top of the usual attempts to outmaneuver your opponent with typical 6dof flight tactics, there's switching between flight assist on and off depending on the situation, timing afterburners properly, managing power distribution between your ship's systems, managing your ship's heat, using your various utility mounts properly (chaff, heat sinks, anti-missile defenses, etc), timing shield cell banks properly, using silent running, and, depending on your build, you might be having to flick systems on and off on the fly.

There's more than enough shit to simultaneously manage while flying in ED for their to be a considerably high skill cap in PvP. The difference between a player who just tries to joust/ram you and one who actually knows what they're doing is significant.

>>152686795
They're still bad sticks, its just Madcatz made them unreliable bad sticks.

>>152686809

Not him, but why? Can it break it?

>>152686631
Are you using USB 3.0 prots?

The X52 will shit the bed if you plug it into one.

>>152686685
>wait until the game is actually finished to fork over my money.
TEN
YEAR
PLAN

>>152686821
>significant
Show me, each video I have seen from the game of PVP has been slow and ponderous at best.

>>152686778
So what kind of hotas should I buy now? I really don't mind the budget since I don't want again a piece of plastic shit

>>152686821
>E:D
>6 DOF flight

lel

>have a madcatz X52 Pro I use daily
>never had any problems with it

Are people using them as dildos or something?
I've had this for about a year now of hard usage and it's still as good as the day I got her.

Anything more than an X52 Pro is pretty much overkill for SC and ED anyway.

>>152686453
no anon, fuck YOU!

>>152687000
Nah I did a full reinstall on USB 2.0 and stuff but nothing seems to work

>>152686685
Do the latter

>>152687192
>>Anything more than an X52 Pro is pretty much overkill for SC and ED anyway.

t. bad stick user

>>152687327
no? I own a TM Warthog which I use for BMS and DCS.

For games like War Thunder or ED I use my X52 Pro.

>Only 7 more ranks for Anal Admiral
Just fuck my shit up.

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>>152686475

It's your moment to shine Anon, show us the receipts, your address, your face and Sandi pegging you while Chris watches

>>152687472
If you think a stick more accurate than the X-52 Pro is useful in E:D or SC in particular, you simply aren't good enough to be making use of it.

Much like an African tribal warrior wouldn't tell the difference between an AK variant and an M16, because he's firing them over his head.

>>152687651
pegging is awesome though

>>152687681
Isn't useful*, rather.

>>152686970
Just pulls power for no reason.

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>>152687000
>mfw I have my X55 plugged to USB 3.0

tell me this isn't dad-pasta level

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/4z6mc5/if_cig_told_us_everything/

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>>152672846
anyone has a saitek x52 pro?
I am at the verge of getting one

>>152686631
>>152688552
oh well, this was not a good time to post without reading the thread

anyone can recommend any other sticks?

>>152688805
It is a good hotas I guess but as some anon said you should plug it out the usb if you don't use it for a while. I guess it's my own fault. I'm still mad though

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>>152688503
>"It took 3 years (2012-2015) to make 18 ships. They made 21 ships in the past 12 months. That's more than double the previous 3 years... combined, That's 39 ships total."
>ED only has 29 ships
>a game that's not even out yet has more ships than a game that's been out for two years

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https://youtu.be/hAAlDoAtV7Y

Post your music /edg&scg/when you're out in the verse

>>152688982
Let's not even start on the Multi-crew huge ass ships like Reliant / Orion / Idris, that aren't in yet.

>>152688970
I have NEVER heard someone call it a good stick if they have used anything else.

>>152688982
To be fair, most of those are variants with minimal changes from the base model. At least EDs ships are unique.

>>152688805
Just get the X52 Pro.

It's perfectly fine. issues with are it are greatly exaggerated.
Just don't plug it into a 3.0 USB port.

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>>152689068
>Multi-crew huge ass ships like Reliant

>>152678484
don't scare me anon

>>152689057
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSnBzlvmCuE

>>152689057

Motherfucker, are you a mind reader?

I was literally just about to post that

Anyway, here's my pick. The album was great for ED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rT38pHbZl0

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>>152689260
>Reliant
Fuck me, I'm high

meant to say RECLAIMER

yeah, that big ol salvage ship.

sorry bruh

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>>152689057
I like slow mellow stuff like this:

https://youtu.be/BhB6Lb7_kN8
https://youtu.be/6Dq5aESJH9A
https://youtu.be/QXENq3yQ_x0
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuqZTQ_5gsppBogTG8qm5YNbDQyCJSw5s
https://youtu.be/MJSoZa2aTrE

>>152687016
I didn't say it was always fast. In the case of two larger ships, it becomes more of an attrition game, more like a space naval battle than a dogfight, but good piloting will still always carry a fight in the long run, paired with good management of ship systems. The management of ship systems isn't always obvious in videos, but it's there, and makes the whole thing much more intense when you're actually playing, as you're trying to focus on piloting, managing heat and power distribution, keeping track of how many shield cells you have left, which modules you still have up and running, etc.

Here's a decent example of someone in a small ship using a comibination of good piloting, taking advantage of his opponent's mistakes (opponent just keeps trying to joust/ram him over and over), and popping in and out of stealth mode to defeat a much larger and more threatening ship with his little fighter. The way he patiently uses his ship's advantages to gradually whittle down the other guy's shields, and then taking him by surprise with a pair of torpedoes, is a fine example of what good piloting can accomplish in ED.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOHyaE8lX-o

>>152678484
How does Derek Smart actually earn his money?

>>152688982
Don't forget the fact that a lot of ships have internal areas you can explore. ED has none. :(

>jump to conflict zone because no RES around and curious
>Capitals jump in almost ontop of me
>Engage with whatever the feds are shooting at
>Imp capship decides to unload it's broadside on me and only me
Why?

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>>152689175

>At least EDs ships are unique.

In all shapes and sizes!

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>>152689572
>>152689260
I fly a Fed Corvette, it does not feel as big as the Reclaimer. Yeah, I can look outside at the windows and notice the thing supposedly has a lot of decks but I can't feel it's size because it's relatively maneuverable. I'm jealous of SC's ability to walk inside their ships.

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>>152690093
but best ship doesn't look anything like a cheese wedge

>>152690190

Seriously, Braben needs to stop jewing and get on that shit.

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>>152689606

>How does Derek Smart actually earn his money?

He doesn't.

>>152690093
Only Faulcon Delacy ships are wedges. Even that doesn't bother me, it makes sense for space ships to have simple, utilitarian designs. Not every ship needs to be military jet fighter.

>>152690521
They really need to add alliance faction rep and unlockable ships. Needs more spacewedges.

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>Jump into brown dwarf system
>Run the discovery scanner
"Ooh, I wonder what planets are in this system"
>8 identical shitty rock planets

EVERY
FUCKING
TIME

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>>152690387
There's no door between the "cockpit" part of the Imperial Courier and the "quarters" part, if you never turn around there's no way to know if there's someone stowed away in your ship and is sneaking up behind you.

Is it ever smart to put a missile racket or multicannon on a huge hardpoint?

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>>152690190
>Corvette
>relatively maneuverable
I'm jealous of ED's ability to have decent sized ships that are still agile enough to be worth flying.

The Connie and Retaliator are relatively tiny in ship terms and yet they turn like a lead filled bath tub in 2.5. And are slower in a straight line than even the game's starter ship.

The Merchantman or Carrack will probably crawl along at 120m/s

>>152690769
missile racks only go up to size 2, for some reason, so no

a huge multicannon is a great choice, though

ASR 32

>>152690190
Yeah the size thing is making ED more shit than it's aweful gameplay. I just want to walk around my ship and play poker with crewmates and settle and chill.

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>>152690761

>>152689175
To be fair, ED ships are just basic exterior shapes and cockpits, while SC ones are fully animated with interiors

>>152690330
When I saw it on the comparision image I actually thought it was a Star Citizen one I somehow didn't know about.

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>>152690330
yeah, but that doesn't change the fact that most people think of the sidewinder, Cobra 3, and Asp when they think of ED's ship design.

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>>152690769
missile: no
Multicannon: very yes
Get special munitions. Enjoy the fireworks.

>>152690870
They're plenty agile for what they are, anon.

One is a strategic bomber.

>>152691107
I thought it was a HD fan render of the NMS starter ship someone made.

>>152690190
i want this ship

>>152683018
>sir can I get a tissue?
>we're all out of tissues isn't that obvious?

>>152690919
I've been thinking of equipping to multicannons on the corvettes huge hardpoints and burstlasers on the large medium ones and rocket pods on the small ones.

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I'm using a CH throttle for SC. Any way to get the thumb stick to work as analog for strafing? Right now it fucks up with digital since it basically only sees a button press and any movement can accidentally make it lock in one direction even with the dead zone adjusted.

>>152691318
That's pretty similar to my Corvette's setup. Double huge multicannons, I use pulse lasers on the mediums and the large, and then I have a pair of missile racks on the smalls for disabling.

>>152691318
Multis on all points, g5 overcharge w/ incendiary round on all, save one small multi, put g5 overcharge w/acid on it. You will melt everything.

https://youtu.be/zjgsZe9dlaY

>>152691219
"strategic bomber." is a CIG codeword for "only exists for the sake of escort missions"

I feel sorry for the people who bought it with the cargo modules thinking they could use it as a bad ass looking freighter.