/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

First for no mods/tilesets allowed

Second for no mods/tilesets allowed still

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>There was some heat-addlement this week, but I finished the dwarf jobs I needed to finish, allowed a museum zone to be designated from display furniture (which is more or less like a sculpture garden, but with the new thoughts for displayed items), and handled display furniture placement in adventurer-created sites. Cleaned up some errors with religions/temples in world gen that were impacting temple artifacts. Moving on to other building/map types next.

Repostan from the old one in case the other guy missed it

>>152723619
Well if you don't want to spend ten in game years making pump stacks and killing your FPS then a minecart with magma is, as far as I'm informed, the cheapest and simplest way to transport magma. In a year after carving all the tracks you can quite possibly have ten or more magma forges up and running.

Fifth for no objective failures to the human race allowed

>>152724068
>>152724205

I'm playing with both tilesets and mods and I'm having fun and you can't stop me.

>>152724395
I explicitly told you to do the opposite.

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How hard/dangerous is it to climb walls in adventurer mode?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S22BFaos6A

>>152724863
Drumpfposting is not allowed.

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>>152724350
its only objective when I die

>>152724863
Unworked stone/boulders: Easy
Blocks: Hard
Smooth natural stone: Impossible or virtually so

>>152724863
its more confusing than difficult most of the time imo.

>>152725056
>Drumpf
lol pic related

But seriously, I can't escape this fortress. Can I climb by way out of here? It seems to be a magma shaft so I don't want to fall.
>>152725198
Hmm, I may be fucked.

>>152725357
And you can't retire?

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>>152724210
Oh boy.

>>152724350
nth for none of that shit, and a tiny little mantisfriend

>>152723516
it's going to be. 2x8 embarked, dropped pop cap to 30. think I'll make a big tavern on a tower over the ocean

>>152726149
Those are people that support Clinton.
Trump supporters dont' call him Drumpf.

>>152726149
anti-drumpfs, just like pro-drumpfs, are american

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnOsKz8p1GI

so, how about them dorfs?

>>152726731
I like dorf.

>giant cave spider eats one of my off duty mace lords

They're not leaving the barracks again until my long term visitor cave patrol is up and eating casualties for me.

>>152727224
And? You're not a trump supporter by wearing a red hat. Especially one that makes fun of the candidate.

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>dwarf fortress general: politics and biological purpose

GET

OUT

Give me a reason I should play Dwarf Fortress

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>>152726504

>>152728550
You shouldn't.

>>152728550
because you like kicking someone so hard in the nuts that they are permanently unable to have children, their spine breaks and they're paralyzed, and the shattering of their hips causes bone fragments to go everywhere and inflict massive arterial bleeding

because you like reciting poetry that arouses random npcs

because you like sustaining your fort on finely minced tallow, finely minced tallow, finely minced tallow, finely minced chicken roasts

>>152728550
Generaly speaking you have as much reason to play this as any other game.

A reason to play it compared to other games would be that for one it leaves a lot to your imagination, that it sometimes crosses the boundary between a game and a job, but not in a chore kind of a way, that gives you a feeling of accomplishment when you get things to act exactly the way you wanted them to go, and that it's a pretty great sandobox to build and make stuff in.

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Guild my fort in such a way that everyone wanting to enter would have to walk through a waterfall, for the purpose of hygiene. Unfortunately, all this lead to is a huge pool of the shit I wanted to keep out right inside the fort entrance. How the hell do I clean it? None of the dwarves have cleaned it manually, even after I assigned burrows and disabled all labors but cleaning and so on and so forth.

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>>152728550
I hope you like FUN

>>152729107
>Guild
Godamnit. I meant built, obviously.

>>152729426
Flow chart like this is bloated because usually you won't include steps like, "move cursor down once and press [c]"

>>152728550
I don't recommend it.

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>>152729107
Embrace it anon

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>>152728550
give me one reason you shouldn't

>>152729426
inherently silly because dwarf therapist is pleb tier

>>152729107
http://bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=425
This ancient bug report describes dwarf cleaning behavior, and includes pretty detailed comments on what conditions will motivate a dwarf to clean. You should be able to figure out a solution from it.

Also you should note the information in this only-slightly-more-ancient bug report since flowing water is involved.
http://bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=296

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>>152728908

>>152731321
are all bone weapons the same?

>>152731321
Man, he got fucked up

>>152731698
Yes, normally, but that anon mods his megabeast bits to have special properties.

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>>152732283
Megabeasts are iron~, dragons/hydras (don't know why hydras, really bad idea but I like them being terrifying) are steel+, semimegas are copper~, as are goblins, trolls, yeti, and similar.

Carving stuff out of kills and shit seemed neat and before I knew it I was all skyrim'D out.

>>152732038
Yeah, I was hoping to get guts to carry around in my teeth, kicked his dick off instead... let him live.

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a thread or 2 ago I asked about fleeing mechanics so I could reliably kill anything which isn't a building destroyer, here's what I came up with

the door is locked and the shortest path into the fortress, so building destroyers always go that way while everything else will path around into the traps

>>152732889
>I do admire a OH GOD IT'S A FUCKING CHARNEL HOUSE

Does anybody know exactly how long it takes for corpses in corpse stockpiles to degrade like vermin corpses do in refuse?

My maximum size corpse stockpile is getting clogged because my dwarves insist on punching the teeth out of every goblin and elf that comes around.

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so... pic related just happened.

This is apparently the Lord Consort of a neighboring civilization, and she even brought an entourage with her: a swordsman and a bowman.

I'd like to accept her residency request just for the two soldiers, but I'm kinda iffy. She IS a noble, after all. If I accept her, will she make demands and mandates? Or if she doesn't, will she still have her noble room quality requirements and just go insane because of lack of accomodations?

Also, let's say she suffers a mysterious accident while in my fort, would that lead to any negative consequences with her civilization? Like how if you kill a diplomat it can lead to that civ declaring war on you?

>>152729107
>>152730821
Okay, I figured out the real problem. I have a constructed temple protruding from the cliff face above the dirty spot. This makes the tile light and above ground, but inside. This means that rain can't reach it, but dwarves won't clean it. I guess http://bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=1140 isn't entirely gone.

>>152732889
Looks pretty effective, but goddamn am I cringing at all that wasted meat. Stick a butcher shop down there or something.

>>152733393
You mean like, degrades into nothing? Never.

The teeth bits will stick around forever, and while the main bodies and limbs will decay down into stacks of bones after 3-4 years, those bones will never decay further. Ya gotta dump em manually.

>>152733896
Oh, oops, it's a man, not a woman. For some reason I always read the Consort roles backward. Like 'Lord Consort' as 'the Lord's Consort' and not 'a Consort who is also a Lord.'

>>152734096
I've got 4.5k meat and 1000 prepared meals for 60 dwarves already, thinking about dumping some of it into magma

>>152734017
You might still be able to get them to clean an adjacent square if one is underground. Cleaning affects a 1 tile radius around the targeted tile, so maybe you catch the offending tile that way.

>>152729107

Workaround: build a bag or chest or weapon rack or any other 1x1 pathable object on the spot. Then deconstruct it.

Presto! Clean furrowed san--

Oh. It's on a bridge. Tile's fucked, mate.

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>boar man escapes fortress without climing
>goes to nearest populated mound village
>CORPSES OF GOBLINS AND DORFS
>ZOMBIES AND SHIT
>search and find not one but two dorf necros just chilling among more corpses at the civic mound

oh boy here we go

>>152724863

People should really stop posting this unefficient mess.

>>152734620
Yes, I know. There is 1 tile on the far edge of the waterfall that is underground, and each time I cancelled the station one dwarf would walk over and clean it. However, the area I need to be cleaned is 4 tiles wide and 3 tiles away from the underground tile.

>>152734679
Fuckin' rip.
I don't suppose raising then dropping the bridge would fling the contaminants to somewhere harmless? I'd do it to find out but it would be a significant investment of time to block off access, since it's the main hallway and only entrance of the fort.

I've gotten lucky enough that nothing with dangerous extract/blood has attacked (actually it's been almost 4 years and I've gotten nothing but a couple of goblin sieges and a lone giant. This is the longest any of my forts have gone with no forgotten beasts.), but if something did my dwarves would be in serious trouble.

>>152735232
>I don't suppose raising then dropping the bridge would fling the contaminants to somewhere harmless?

Hey, it's ALWAYS a good time for dwarven experimentation.

Well, on that note, I'm about to conduct my own experiment. >>152733896 Wish me luck and no loyalty cascades!

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>>152734904
>seems to be the entire village
>even the beer mound is all corpses and necromancers

>>152735232
There actually is something you can do about it, but it'll take quite a lot of effort, especially if it's a primary thoroughfare. Simply do what >>152734679 said, but first you have to deconstruct the bridge and then build a floor in that spot so you can put something there. I don't know offhand which buildings will autoclean the tiles they're built on and which won't, but workshops have worked for me in the past.

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>>152733896
Alright, let's do this shit. APPLICATION APPROVED!

>Wishes to reside in Dungeoncoiled the Wails of Forests for the purpose of entertaining citizens and visitors
>He sometimes feels sad at being separated from loved ones

I got no sympathy. You wanna be in show biz, kid? You gotta get on the road!

>>152735232
>I don't suppose...
Nope. Contaminants aren't really items, they're more like tile attributes that can stick to creatures or objects that share a tile. Even removing the bridge and rebuilding won't help, the contaminants will just hang in the air, and stick to a new bridge if build one.

>>152735972
Hm. I guess I'll try >>152735932 then. It'll certaintly be disruptive, but it's a major flaw in my fort's defense and it could potentially bring the whole fort down if I don't fix it sooner rather than later.

>Mace Lord has several tantrum in a row
>kills his militia commander
>kills some random dwarf that was in his way
>goes to the tavern and goes on a killing spree
>goes right back to the barracks like nothing happened

Time to get a fortress guard going

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>>152736831
make him the captain of the guard

>>152736831
To elaborate, he wasn't even using his weapon. He just went around snapping people's spines with his bare hands like he was Bane or some shit. Then he'd leave them on the ground to suffocate.

Imagine if you're at a party and everybody's having a good time when suddenly an angry midget covered head to toe in steel plate and chain mail stomps up the stairs, onto the dance floor, and punches somebody in the gut so hard his spine explodes and he lays there twitching until he dies horribly, while the midget just goes back downstairs to ruin somebody else's day.

>>152738086
Put that dwarf in a small room with a big bridge before he ends you.

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Does anyone know how it's decided as to what language the name of the world will be in? I think it's decided as one of the very first things, so it can't be decided by which species has the largest population or anything like that.

>>152742262
Probably just random.
Actually wait, this is Dwarf Fortress, there has to be some obscure logic behind it. Maybe it's the first placed civ?

>>152743384

It's decided before civs are placed.

>>152743384
I thought the civs always placed in order from the text file, so first is [ENTITY:MOUNTAIN] and then it just goes down the list?

>walking to new settlement after killing all necromancers
>see party coming at me
>think goblins or zombies
>it's a night troll or some shit out during the day

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share tales of might conquest

>be adventuring
>be eagle man
>lose party in dark pits
>fuck em, fly away
>fly over to kobold camp to try and find some armor that fits me since I've had a lot of trouble with having no good shit
>it's kind of become my main quest (I was also in the dark pits to hunt for goblin armor)
>see lone kobold wrestler
>ezmoney.jpg

>he charges
>I attempt to stab him with my spear
>spear lodged in wound
>I get thrown backwards
>notasplanned.jpg

>pull out dagger
>attempt to shank him
>lose hold of dagger
>shitshitshit

>he tackles me again, breaks my legs
>grab dagger and start slashing
>get some light hits but dagger gets knocked away
>try to retrieve spear
>can't hit him and he knocks that away too

>begin just trying to bite his hands and arms
>get a lucky artery
>peck away at his feet, legs, arms, and hands
>after several minutes of this he gives in to pain
>I tear his throat out with my beak
>mfw his clothes don't even fit me

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>>152743879
>>he tackles me again, breaks my legs
a kobold?

>boar-man gazes disapprovingly in your direction

>>152744010
I was an eagle man, so pretty small. But yeah, I was surprised at how hard I was getting dunked. For a good half-hour (IRL) I thought I was fucked.

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>>152744010
>>152743879
Eagle men are really REALLY small. They're half the size of elves.

>>152743832
>kill night troll
>see another party
>ambush!
>one single dorf expedition leader
>comes right the fuck at me
>gets a hoof to the knee, then head

what...

>>152743879
>share tales of might conquest

>start adventure in 5 year old pocket world
>climb only mountain
>visit hillock
>pick up a couple of companions
>kill nearby night creature
>rescue kidnapped child
>kill another night creature on the way to the human hamlets on the other side of the island/continent/world
>get fancy new gear, including a knife to use as a backup weapon (I gave my starting dagger to one of my companions)
>go to kill the night creature near the hamlet I just got a fancy new axe from
>get our asses handed to us in part because I momentarily forgot about the backup knife I had gone to such trouble to acquire
>die in a hole in the ground

Sorry about the lack of detail, it was about a year ago irl.

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I've got a FB which won't go into his home

what's up with that?

>boar man enters citdel for some group
>claims it in the name of his group
>frail lord spits at him
>one punch kill
>now walking the halls killing anyone who spits at or name calls

>annexing village after village
>go for bandit camp, gets dark
>cackling
>beating bogeyman up
>lucky bite to tail and shake ruins my lower body's nervous system
>now crawling and fighting
>kill 4 bogeys
>need to run for shelter

how do I heal my spine

>>152749353
Anon...

Up and down stairs only require one tile, right? Any more is just looking nice?

>>152749353
I've an aunt who would like to know the same

>>152749353
You're fucked. Get used to crutches.

>>152749495
If you only have one set of stairs your dwarves will climb all over each other. I like to use a row of three since it means there's plenty of room for dwarves and fortress layouts should only require going in one direction most of the time anyways.

>>152750134
I have 1 crutch now. How do I use it. Even crippled. I bodied about 5 gobs at a bandito camp.

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The library was a success.

Japa is literally a magical creature.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ5ON4QUOXk

Here is my strategy

1. Find a location with no aquifer, trees, and fresh water

2. 2 carpenter/wood cutters 2 mason/miners 2 growers and 1 mechanic/building designer. Focus on putting points in plump helmets

3. Pause and mark mode a future well and design of a fortress to house the population cap of 200 dwarfs, including special marks for where you will put traps in the future

4. Get the farm and carpenter workshop going, as well as the bedrooms, then after that, focus on getting the fortress well with two flood gates going in order to allow the dwarfs to drink while in the fortress under the ground.

5. Finish off about 20 dwarf populations worth at a time and be sure to have 1 soldier for every 10 dwarfs from the start while focusing on traps for protection. Be sure to finish off making the graveyard, a dining hall, some more workshops, stockpiles, and things like that.

6. Be patient and be sure you have traps for the random events. If you must and embarked in ice, dig to the cavern level quickly. Work your way to the lava and build up from there.

I wonder what Japanese people would think of dorf fort

>>152752610
999/10
Give it a few years, and Amok vision will have a mode that generates Windows Maze style screensavers using your own fort.

>>152753531
I look forward to checking out some of the campsites and shit I've made like this once dfhack catches up.

Plus shit like sewer tunnels, catacombs, castle keeps.

How many Stills does a fort of 100 people need to keep everyone nice and inebriated?

>>152753946
like 1

>>152753946
One. Maybe two.

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>>152753997
One is not enough.

>>152754041
there are other problems which need to be addressed here besides the amount of stills

>>152754041
Maybe if you're shit at the game. Like you clearly are considering all the problems in this picture.

>>152754254
After taking a look around, I've decided to slaughter puppies by the dozen. Should I even attempt training dogs, or should I only keep a few strays around?

>>152754041
A still that's worked 24/7 will easily produce plenty of drink as long as you have barrels and plants. If your brewers are fucking around somewhere else then your stocks will probably plummet but that's why you have dedicated brewers.

Keep in mind that each brew gives you 25 drinkable alcohol. It's pretty difficult to have a hundred dwarves drinking at a rate that outpaces that sort of production.

Also the fuck are those bedrooms, make some chests and cabinets for God's sake.

>>152754456
Train two breeding pairs, slaughter newborn puppies/kittens/etc, keep a couple for training and gelding, repeat until you've got a horde of dickless wonderwolves.

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I suppose I deserve this for leaving his drowned corpse is full view of the arterial staircase of my fort.

>>152756642
these nicknames are quite triggering

>>152756678
I do it so I don't have to file through every single dwarf in the case of a vamp, I just have to look at what the most recent migrant wave was. It saves a lot of headaches.

>bug that makes dwarves unable to use weapons that require a certain size to use
I just want a greataxe battalion of dorfs who fell giants like trees

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRFLsFUmLuc

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>>152756975
>>bug that makes dwarves unable to use weapons that require a certain size to use

>weapon requires size larger than a dwarf can obtain
>dwarves cannot use weapon
>this is a bug

>>152757086
>Due to the size of two-handed swords, most dwarves are unable to equip them. With height and broadness modifiers, some dwarves should be able to use a two-handed sword, and a select few might manage to do so one-handed. Unfortunately, due to a bug, two-handed swords cannot currently be equipped by any dwarves.
>In fortress mode, one-handed vs. two-handed checks are performed correctly, but can wield vs. can't wield ignores height and broadness modifiers, so dwarves cannot equip two-handed swords.

Source:
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/v0.34:Two-handed_sword
(As well as pretty much every other foreign weapon that is typically too huge for most dorfs)

>>152757186
It's not even a confirmed bug :^)

They're not big enough to wield them.

Is there any way to create a dragon in a pocket world?

>>152757454
Probably by putting the megabeast number high enough

>>152758196
Probably? make sure of that!!!

How autistic do you have to be to play this without tileset?

>>152758465

About as autistic as making such asinine posts as this retard >>152758465

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>>152758465

if you use your terminal colours it doesn't look as bad as default dwarf fortress

I'm using a colour scheme based on gruvbox and it looks great

>>152758307
Make sure of it yourself; I'm busy. It's not even hard, just generate some pocket worlds with large megabeast numbers and look at ledgends to see if they have any dragons.

>>152758497
oh wow u sure showed him XD

>>152758747

me*

What's the best version to play for a beginner? I play a lot of adventure but haven't seen much fortress.

>>152758956
Play a better non-autistic game

>>152758658
>>152758658

Could you paste the "colors.txt" ?

>>152758956
Version or game mode? I think fortress mode is easier and it's the personal preference of most people.

>>152758992
But I like df :^)

>>152759041
I've been reading people complaining about therapist being broken but I don't know what version that is. I stopped around 2015

>>152759338
Therapist is broken for for the 64 bit version, you can still play the 32 bit version just fine with it.

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>>152758998

I play dwarf fortress inside a terminal emulator (I'm using linux), this is what my .Xdefauts file looks like

http://pastebin.com/raw/CBr9HE7K

don't know how to translate that into the graphical interface df has

>>152759436
This is one of the few people who is NOT using a tileset, folks, one of the rare hyperautists, don't make any sudden noises, we don't want to scare it off, quick, does anyone have a pen and paper rpg pdf handy? Mutants and Masterminds perhaps?

>>152759813
RIP
Make a hardened warrior out of him, lead him to vengeance.

>>152760942

Apparently I didn't need to, someone other than I found you to be just as retarded.

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>>152760819

desu it's just an aesthetic choice; once you start recognizing the symbols is not such a big deal

and this way it fits my system better

waifuless /g/tard here I guess or something

> scrot

>>152761078
Sorry i hurt your little feeling ;_;

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>chopping wood after titan attack.png

>>152761123
>replying
He's baiting anon, if you didn't notice there's a really obvious shitposter in the thread.

>>152761123
>Paco de lucia
Fucking fag

>unironically enjoying this autism simulator

I hope you virgins realize how pathetic you are.

>>152723895
>latest military causalities:
>2 guys drowned in flooded tunnel
I should learn to keep those sealed all time already.

>>152761503
>flooded tunnel
I hope that's a river-to-cistern thing.
Pics?

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>>152738086
An update, I just found out what this guy's extended name is.

I can't possibly execute him now.

>>152761283
I know, but I wanted people to remember that no tileset isn't that bad.

>>152761295

I'll fucking murder you you half-arsed elf.

>>152761541
Just noob way to bring water on lower levels to make well, it involve doors because I only properly learned how to handle flood gates after I made this fort.

Problem is that one tunnel is between 2 stockpiles and they also take shortcuts by it. It is normally dry unless I need more water downstairs. Flood gate separate tunnel connected to surface lake while there is hole in ground what lead to lower tunnel, I lost few dwarfs and non dwarfs in it already and now decided to cover it.
I may post pictures later to show stupid design later.

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>>152761965
>Problem is that one tunnel is between 2 stockpiles and they also take shortcuts by it.

>>152761965
Let me understand this, you have random people open a door to your piping system?

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>>152761283
...b-b-but I wasn't.

>>152761959
Yeah, I usually go full retard about people saying tileset when they mean graphics sets, and how absurd it is when people say they don't use a tileset when they mean they use the default or whatnot.

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W-who built this floor in the caves..?

>>152762263
More like I use part of piping system as normal tunnel I dint need water flowing

>>152763259
dwarves

>>152763259
In adventurer mode you can fast travel along them, interestingly.

>>152761438
Gr8 b8 m8 8/8 I hope you appreci8

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>>152761438

>>152763259
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Tunnel

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>>152761503
>>152761541
>>152761965
>>152762076
>>152762263
>>152763272
Here this system, also with wells what use them.
Thats practically my second real fort. I would made this differently now.

I'm about 4 hours in df by now, such a good game but holy crap it is hard as balls

>>152761959
to do that first you should change your old-ass music preferences buddy, I can't take you seriously otherwise
marica

>skunk visits my fort
>a small black and white mammal. it is capable of spraying a stinking fluid

If my dwarves mess with this thing, can it actually spray them with stink?

When the fuck is Toady going to implement a proper labor manager ingame so I can play without waiting for DFHack/Therapist to update?

>>152768596
v p l works fine you big baby.

>>152766683
Half of it is just figuring it out. Just do what you want and don't focus too much on living forever. The best ones dies to fps death anyhow even with the 64 bit update.

hey guys, how about we strat a succession game?
i'm sure it will go greatly

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>>152768815
>implying people who got into the game using therapist/manipulator even know about v-p-l

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ5ON4QUOXk&feature=youtu.be

>discovered ehy my haukers ignore food, because I set ignore food order by accident
This option screwed me over few times already

>>152771214
for every time I've found standing orders super useful, I've fucked my fort up with them three times
[o]->[w] is a personal """favourite""" of mine

>>152771416
What, don't you like having dozens of your dwarves wandering out into the caves so giant cave spiders and cave crocodiles can eat them?

>>152771856
ignoring webs is super useful, ignoring wood not so much, but my spastic fingers tend to mix the two up

>>152771416
At least wood will not rot

>>152772026
But having an infinite source of silk is pretty invaluable. I always put up 2-4 looms near the caverns and leave them open.

>>152772391
oh sure, but having the option to turn it on or off without having to suspend/unsuspend the job in every loom is nice

Last thread an anon posted up a pet cave spider they had made, which are neat, but not the type I was after, so I took the template they had and modified it into a pet huntsman which should gallop around ridiculously fast nomming on vermin, gave it a mild necrosis to "pre-digest" prey, won't be bad on larger critters, and kept the paralysis to incapacitate food. Gave them a good deal sharper and faster bite though, since this is not a web hunter.

http://pastebin.com/Z2tmC1L9

>>152757038
this has got to be the fucking worst game to lets play
>3 seconds in
>"lets umm, check on that dwarf"
yeah, nah

>>152759436
>>152761123
thats fucking sexy m9 liking the colours

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>start up newest df version after not playing in forever
>layout my fortress and watch the magic start happening as the miners dig away
>waitasecond.png
>realize that everything thats been dug out so far is on a clay layer
>mfw i remember i cant smooth clay
>mfw all my hard work has been for nothing
>tfw i abandon so i dont have to look at my mistake anymore

>>152770540
>>152768815
v-p-l isn't practical for changing the labors on your 69 dwarf migrant wave

>>152779772
this is why you either find an embark with a large stone face, dig a ramp down to stone, or stop being a huge bitch

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>>152779772
>tfw always draw entire fort at embark
>usually at least 1 or 2 hours of work
>start digging
>half fort entirely dug out
>caves open up really early cutting my fort in half
>tfw I can finally get a fort going
>full of orthoclase and mudstone
>cinnabar cobaltite tetrahedrite
>caves full of water

>>152778519
It's possible, you just have to know what you're doing and minimize time spent micromanaging and maximize time spent doing shit

Hell for a let's play instead of a stream you can just cut out all the boring bits, summarize them, and skip straight to the 200 gob and troll rape fest.

>>152780809
Sucks when copper is the best metal you can produce.

>>152780663
Who said you had to?

If you're short of workers on a certain task, assign more labours to idlers. No need to do that when the wave first arrives.

>>152780663
I've done it literally hundreds of times without issue. Practical is exactly the right word for it.

>>152780663
you have issues knowing which dwarf is which, just give them a custom profession name

just be careful not to give existing names, otherwise when a wave arrives with 11 planters you won't be able to tell them apart from yours without checking labors

all my useless dwarves are named haulers as well, that way I can tell which dwarves are new, pick them for certain jobs, military and so on

>>152767947
> superior iberian musicians

https://youtu.be/lKGoHq_KHxo

sorry you're so jelly mate

>boar man crawled to a necro tower
>learned to animate corpses
>now killing roaming goblin bands and criminals on the way to a dark fortress

>>152786643
>iberian
>A denomination that doesn't even exist
give me a break you fucking portugués

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>>152786865

you're giving me a hard time, and I'm already sweating with all this lack of work I have to do today

Guys, I can't find that image with a demon killing himself by dropping a fork he was wielding. Can someone post here please?

>>152752610
> Japa goes full Dungeon Master/ Ultima Underworld /Legend of Grimrock on us and uses armok vision to create a first person dungeon crawler
muuuh
diiick

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Flying FB with dust attack was more fun but still not losses. At least since my food hauling is not disabled I can have some meat out of it, I was worried than next forgotten beast with not be flesh one.

>>152790091
>a gigantic beakless hawk with large mandibles
god that's so freaky

>>152790091
>>152790252
Drawfag needs to get to work on that.
I'd do it myself but I have no artistic talent whatsoever

>>152790252
>tfw the fbs/demons/titans that DF generates were always just as complex as the RNG'd creatures in spore, exept Toady was less pretentious about it than maxis

>>152752610
Amazing.

>>152757086
>>152757370
They are, though, or at least some of them are. Seriously, the majority of your dorfs will probably be well over size 60k.

>>152757086
I can't find it anymore, but once when I lurked on the bugtracker, I found an old "bug" that was essentially that you could look at z-levels above and below you in adv mode.

>>152791374
I'm not part of the discussion, but is there a way to check animal/dwarf size in the game, like their proprieties or something?

>>152791752
I think Dwarf Therapist?

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>>152791053
>>152789460
Ain't it though?

>>152789001
It was a night creature, don't have it but that might help the search?

are chain leggings the same thing as normal leggings?
god the militia screen is fucked

>>152793918
>god the militia screen is fucked
Enough with this meme.

The militia screen is one of the most informative and interactive menus in the game, and gives you full control of burrows, schedules, uniforms and squads.

>>152793918

Just assign fucking items

>>152794101
If only it wasn't so confusing.

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>>152790452
just 4 u senpai
artists impression

>>152794553
Kek'd.
You didn't add mandibles tho.

I bought some books from trading carvans but my codices show as 0 on the stocks screen, and I can't seem to find them

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>>152789001
>>152793532
I searched old threads and I found it, thanks nonetheless

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Well... I don't quite know what to make of this.

>running a world with lots of campsite work and whatnot, 33x33 with a 25k hist fig cap, started in 499
> 17055 Dwarves
> 1240 Humans
> 11683 Elves
> 16427 Goblins

Normal enough.

>roll over to 500
>The world has entered the age of legend.
> 43245 Dwarves
> 1062 Humans
> 9922 Elves
> 15937 Goblins

Uh...
>105: �dkulet, "Tunnelabbey", hamlet
> Owner: The Ordered Stake, dwarves
> Parent Civ: The Sculpted Rocks, dwarves
> lady: Cilob Wheeledstruck, dwarf
> 29710 dwarves
> 50 horses
> 4 dogs
> 2 turkeys

Thanks for tracking those 4 dogs and 2 turkeys, game, they're clearly important here.

Interestingly, the game didn't show any lag or whatnot, though I haven't been to that hamlet, didn't notice the pop until I was checking the export to find the last megabeasts.

>roll over to 501
>The world has entered the golden age.
> 249674 Dwarves
> 910 Humans
> 8148 Elves
> 7827 Goblins

WHAT

Any other day, the presence of 25,792 polar bear men in one of the dark fortresses (along with 3456 raven men) would raise an eyebrow, but that is not this day.

>105: �dkulet, "Tunnelabbey", hamlet
> Owner: The Ordered Stake, dwarves
> Parent Civ: The Sculpted Rocks, dwarves
> lady: Cilob Wheeledstruck, dwarf
> 236608 dwarves
> 50 horses
> 7 dogs
> 2 turkeys

>tfw you can't figure out where the three new dogs came from

>>152795870
This actually sounds amazing.

>>152779772
>havent played game in years
>boot up
>forgotten everything
>give up
>play skyrim instead

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>>152796612

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>>152795870
> 249674 Dwarves
> 910 Humans
> 8148 Elves
> 7827 Goblins
It's called the Golden Age for a reason.

>>152794101
Nicely memed, my friend.
I shall devote my next engraving to that encounter.

>>152795870
So... the dwarven population almost multiplied tenfold in a single hamlet in 2 years? Why?

>>152796510
I am terrified of trying to get close to that hamlet, I know it is next to a town which kept getting sieged, and there were refugee tents all over the place outside said town.

Maybe the tents overlapped into the hamlet so it counted them as settling there?

I think the polar bear men happened because one of the goblin civs took over the forest retreat which had been sieging that town (and also the one I dragged a hydra through before letting it settle there and then killing it later) so they inherited the ability to have polar bear and raven man citizens?

I mean, literally any other time that would be the most ridiculous thing taking place, if not for Tunnelabbey somehow not collapsing into a black hole.

>>152797243
236 thousand of those dwarves ARE ALL IN THE SAME HAMLET, which originally had 147 living there, before 17 and then another 219 THOUSAND dwarves somehow came into existence during a span of 2 years.

I mean, fuck, the combined population of elves, goblins, and humans is now dwarved by the polar bear men living in one dark fortress with 3 thousand raven men?

I don't even know where to start on the bug report, I think I'll just link it to the campsite population explosion one?

>>152794869
>You didn't add mandibles tho

>mandible
>the jaw or a jawbone, especially the lower jawbone in mammals and fishes.

So it's just a square jawed chad?

>>152797435
In the second year it went up 13x, in the first year it went up 115x, for a combined increase of 1605x over 2 years.

I mean... my mind is completely full of fuck.

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>>152797637
I dpn't think it's that type of mandibles

>>152797616
>I think the polar bear men happened because one of the goblin civs took over the forest retreat which had been sieging that town (and also the one I dragged a hydra through before letting it settle there and then killing it later) so they inherited the ability to have polar bear and raven man citizens?
More likely that they just babysnatched some baby polar bear men, and then they grew up and formed their own little goblin subculture that then took over

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>>152798209
This is a 33x33 world with a 25k histfig cap, kidnapped victims are histfigs.

Oh wait, I was mistaken, I didn't notice the name of the civ in charge at that site, which again, THIS would be the point of interest normally.

>20: Stosb�bslusp, "Hatedropes", dark fortress
> Owner: The Gloss of Winter, elves
> Parent Civ: The Heather of Sweltering, elves
> administrator: Romimi Fragrantcurled, goblin
> 1732 goblins
> 3456 raven men (from 54, 216)
> 25792 polar bear men (from 403, 1612)
> 30 cougar men
> 5 ostrich men
> 48 skunk men
> 61 elf visitors
> 1 goblin visitor
> 1 human visitor
> 8 goblin outcasts
> 42 elf outcasts

That'll teach them to conquer a dark fortress, hoisted by their own polar bear man petard!

Wait, strike that... it's been under elf control the whole time? I added in the original values for those races.

>>152798065
That's what I thought too till I googled it. It's clearly what Toady means, but still, we've technically got mandibles.

>>152799332
So basically The Gloss of Winter is an "elf" civ that is populated solely by polar bear men?

>>152799332
A clue emerges!

Polar bear and raven men went up by 4x then 16x for those two groups, total of 64x the original population.

Unfortunately that doesn't explain why the others at the site didn't change, they gained 17 goblins over 2 years, and the visitors/outcasts number changed a little.

Doesn't line up with the hamlet going 115x > 13x for a total of 1605x for just dwarves, and the 2x > .75x increase in dog population though.

>>152799842
If I remember correctly, animal man pops join civs en masse as a historical event. Maybe some bug caused a repeated "mass immigration" of animal people? Since they're pulled from an abstract body of wild animals, there should be an infinite potential amount of them.

>>152800469
When you build things in a campsite sometimes you get an explosion of wildlife pops where they just linger and keep reloading new wild pops while the old ones remain.

I'm guessing this is similar?

I unretired and walked over there, saving beforehand, dropped out of fast travel in the hamlet.

>Dwarf_Fortress: 602,196k
>Dwarf_Fortress: 2,130,453k
>Dwarf_Fortress: 5,255,703k
>Dwarf_Fortress: 6,104,586k
>everything stops moving
>can't even see the mouse
>finally it pops up
>try to drag it over to the process viewer to kill df
>I had hit ctrl+alt+f2 when everything froze to try and use top over there to kill df
>tty2 pops up
>warning: insufficient memory, kill process Dwarf_fortress or sacrifice child
>tfw I have no children left to sacrifice this week

>>152799715
Its an elf controlled dark fortress overrun by polar bear people.

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>>152801808
Plus a raven man infestation, which are appearing out of thin air.

So, I was ready to kill the process when I approached Tunnelabbey again, this time I dropped out near the mead hall.

No change in ram use, it just loads up normally, I walk over, there's like ten or so dorfs in here.

The largest building in this site has 1/23 thousandth the population of the little cluster of houses at the center of the hamlet.

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>>152802573
>Mortals. Life is, in a word, death.

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>>152802573
Sorry, 22 dorfs in the largest building in the entire site, and let's call it 9000 in each of the other 28 buildings.

>>152803132
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PJqC6Wbt80

>>152803132
Oh, cut off the top of it, "Greetings, I am Golud Bloodlusts the Livid Lace of Mortals. Life is, in a word, death."

>>152803364
Well Scamps is ridiculously cute, and I think I feel kinda sick for those poor fuckers on the bottom of the 9k dwarf piles in each house.

>>152804006
I'm worried about the moldy carpet in that vid, though. That was like seven years ago, so Toady may have taken severe damage already.

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>>152804823
Hard to say if it's mold or just Scamps though.

I was able to approach just close enough that I could see the sense creature icons for like four or five houses, ram use went up to 3.25 GB.

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>>152805228
I don't know, man. I googled moldy carpet, and the results share striking similarities with Toady's carpet.

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>>152805686
Eh, we used to have carpets that did this all the time, the way it is smoothed down in the doorway is why it doesn't say mold to me.

>>152805686
>>152806510
so can we say for certain that Toady objectively failed his carpet?

>>152806510
To bring it back on topic though, carpet and wallhangings when Toady?

>>152806669
From a purely carpetological perspective, yes.
Trust me, I have a degree in carpetology.

>>152806669
>>152806726
>>152807203
I want to stop this meme before it even begins
Watching the discussion in the last thread was dumb enough

>>152807203
I'd say your degree in carpetology is irrelevant here, as this is clearly a matter of mouldology

I mean, in what was is allowing your boring old carpet to become a wonderous pupulated by millions of lifeforms failure

So I built a series of walls above ground and set a staircase to be built right up against one of them (b C u). Now, when I go to build a down staircase, or an up/down, nobody comes to do it. I have free dorfs, I checked with the Up staircase again, but nobody will go build the staircase to the second level. What gives? It doesn't give me an error or anything when I try to do it, it accepts the task then... nothing.

>>152807538
what context?

>>152807743

Scratch that, I'm a tard. The game was trying to use a log that had fallen on the upper level of the wall since it was only two tiles away. And since they couldn't access the log...

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>>152807814

>>152790252
>>152790452
>>152790553
>>152794553
>>152794869
>>152797637
>>152798546

Cool, my FB I encountered caused some interest. Nobody even tried to draw one before too.

>>152798546
nice one

>>152807930
but what did Max actually do
can you link me the full thread?

>>152808485
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=139553.4605

I have a shitton of hazel nut seeds and peach pits. Can I do anything with them?

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>>152808208
I read that as
>Cool, my FBI encounter caused some interest

>>152808613
Speaking of shit like this, does anyone ever bother to pick fruit from trees?

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>>152808564
thanks

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>>152807930
I struggle to decide what to think of MaxTM

On one hand, with his knowledge of the game, he's a voice of reason in the bay12 community, where most members don't know shit about how the game works. It's also pretty interesting to read his blog posts in the general, especially since he experiments a lot.

On the other hand, he, along with Rumrusher(who is also a voice of reason on bay12), has an absolutely cringe-worthy sense of humour. He also mentioned once that he had a collection of fedoras.

I guess he's a pretty cool guy in the end, who contributes a lot both to bay12 and to /dfg/.

>>152808613
Edit the raws to make them millable and then turn them into soap?
Hazelnut oil is an actual thing that exists IRL. Peach pits are a bit of a stretch though, but theoretically any seed can be milled to produce oil.

>>152808736
I do. It can give you vast amount of food and drink stuff. I'm tempted to mod the game so that you get Slivovitz instead of plum wine from plums.

>>152808918
He's an ass.

>>152808736
Yes its very bountiful. In seasons where the trees produce fruit, farming seems pointless.

>>152809153
Nah, I also think that he has the correct ideas
When everybody was bashing the sex/rape suggestion in the forums because muh politically correct game, he went and talked about how sex could be implemented, but toady will probably elegantly abstract it, instead of giving a combat log for sex, which makes sense

>>152809125
>Slivovitz

Is that some kind of russian spirit?

>>152809425
Combat log for sex would be hilarious though, but mostly awful.

>>152809457
Balkan plum brandy. With 40% ABV I can barely guess what fruit it was made from. I gotta mod walnuts so I can get walnut liqueur from it too. That stuff is great.

>>152809584
>>152809425
>tfw there will never be procedurally generated fetishes in DF

>>152809674
Well, there was the whole "wormlike creatures living in a world-intestine and being drowned now and then in a lake of bile" thing, though I wish I could say for sure nobody was into that stuff... I can't in all honestly do so.

>>152808918
if I cared about namefags I'd be on ribbit

So i just killed a forgotten beast. A giant scaly slug with wings. About to butcher

>>152808613
You can eat hazelnuts raw or cooked, peach pits are only for giving you another excuse to make more bags.

>>152810034
went from 287 meat to 538 meat.
>13 hearts
>28 brains
What the fuck

>>152809856
>>152809674
yeah m8, nobody can say completely sure that something won't be in df in the future,not even Toady, so chill out
I already talked about getting waifus in df when the psychology gets heavily updated
combine that with procreation, and you have yourself something interesting

>>152809856
Sounds like your basic mix of vore and snuff. I have yet to see worms portrayed in a fetish context but I'm sure there's someone out there who has done it.

>>152810359
His heart was big enough to cut into 13 portions and his brain was big enough to cut into 28. Happens a lot with some of the larger creatures.

>>152810359
Are those are just parts of one big heart and brain or thing having literary 13 hearts and 28 brains?

>>152810359
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Giant_sperm_whale
>Butchering returns
>Meat 4940-7048
>Bones 1177-1690

>>152810840
makes me want to build a fishing / whaling fortress

>>152810359
If you think that's crazy, go to the wiki and check out the butcher products of a giant sperm whale.

What's the gnarliest injury you've seen?

>>152810840
>>152810359
I think its time for another seaside fortress.
Need to find an evil beach for undead giant sperm whales

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>>152795870

I dont understand this shit. How are your dorfs breeding this fast?

I've been through like 100 different worlds since I began playing df in 2012 and remember to always check and compare worldgen progress since the "world activation" update, but it just seems that populations for all races usually just slowly decline downwards.

Did you turn forgotten beasts and savagery to super low?

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>>152812216

Speaking of seaforts.

Aren't the seaside waves still known to cause significant framerate issues? Every particle of water coming in and out is calculating evaporation, causing tempurature calculations, and doing math in contrast to the water nearby it.

I usually have framerate fuckery with just waterfalls and rivers branching into two.

>>152814053
They aren't breeding, 147 producing 29710 in a year is absurd, but even 29710 producing 236,608 in a year is absurd.

No other sites had increases besides the polar bear/raven men, it's a weird as fuck bug where the site pop just got multiplied over and over for some reason, just in that one hamlet.

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Hey guys I have a great idea!
Let's IGNORE the bridge and drive our merchant carts through the river instead!

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bamparu

>>152815339
>tfw cave crocodile intestines fall on you and drive your ribs thru your heart

I can't say I know that feel.

if I dump 2 giants or cyclops in a pit will they fug and make babbies?

>>152819227
There's about a 1%-2% chance it may happen, yes.

>>152817660
One of his guards got hit three times by a serrated steel disc. The first time it hit his lower body, spilling his guts, shredding his stomach and tearing an artery. The second time it cut off his right arm at the shoulder. The third time is cut him in half at the lower body.

>>152819805
Traps target friendly merchants?

>>152822850
might be because they were stunned, I know cage traps will work on your own dwarves if something stuns them

>>152822850
No, but if a friendly is stunned or falls asleep on a trap it will trigger.

>>152819346
It's a lot more than that. As long as they're both eligible for reproduction and not related it's guaranteed. Semimegas are all sentient, so they have the same sexual orientation spread as dwarves. That gives pretty good odds that any given pair will reproduce.
I'm don't know if semimegas that paired off in worldgen will reproduce if they're confined with a different potential partner afterwards.

>>152823826
Yes but don't they all have to be within 10 years of age? And being born in a time before time does not mean you will be of the same age.

>>152809606
>plum brandy
You don't have to guess. By definition it's either made from plums exclusively (unlikely) or grapes and a small amount of plums for flavor. Being 40% abv isn't a remarkable thing, though. That's the industry standard for high proof liquors, and literally anything that can be made to feed yeast can (and has) been distilled to that proof.

>>152822850
No, he had one in the cart, so when he walked into the river it was bouncing around with him while he rode the whitewater rapids. Well, I guess they were redwater rapids at the time.

>>152824593
That's a good question. I don't know if that rule applies to semimegas or not. I doubt it, but next time I see a reproductive pair in worldgen I'll check their ages to be sure.

>>152824593
Just did a quick check on my current world. There's a cyclops born in -175 who sired a daughter with another cyclops who was born in -276, so the age gap maximum is at least higher than 101.

>>152825298
I mean, worldgen and fort mode seem to have different rules there.

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>'so yer a wrassler is ya?'
>'whatcha wrassle?'
>"oh yanno, great beasts n'such"
>'like whut?'
>"mostly possums, one time I bit the weener right off the lil' basterd!"
>'ya don't seem ta know what tha words 'great' n' 'beast' mean, do ya sweetheart?'
>"nah, reckon I don't"

>>152825384
Does it? Have you seen examples of civilized races mating outside of the 10-year-gap rule? The rule might only apply to marriage, which wouldn't be a barrier except for civilized creatures.

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>>152825713
Those possums are scary stuff man

>>152825909
l'right I'll grant ya that, but in what sense do a possum in any way count as "great" tho?

>>152826073
>>152825713

So tired of the "possums were never great" shills. We're going to make possums count as great beasts again folks

Some Migrants have arrived, despite the Page 10.

>>152832162
Bomrek Kekimber, fish dissector, has transformed into a Wereshitposter!

>>152829104
Make amarsupial great again!

What's does /dfg/ think of Aquifers?

>>152833726
I think they're the greatest, the best, even better than opossums, I mean, I'm not saying they are, but many people have said they are.

>>152833726
Not that big of a deal, just gotta learn to make certain conceits regarding fortress layout.

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>>152825909
>>152829104
This bronze collossus seemed to agree.

Any fuckers have a clue what I should set pain etc. to, so that people pass out when I break an arm or sever an arm? or maybe, break two arms or sever two arms?

>being chased by rolling stumps spurting blood everywhere that will not give into pain

I want to build a chamber where I can bring elves and gas them. both soldiers and civilians. any ideas on how to lure and gas them? can absurd levels of miasma be fatak?

>>152836808
Severing limbs actually relieves pain since you can't feel your broken fingers and shattered wrist if your arm gets chopped off at the elbow, and since muscles are less sensitive than bones by a factor of 10, that means that a chipped pinky bone is ten times more painful than a severed arm. You should never sever anything if you want to rack up enough pain to knock something out. Blunt attacks only.
Likewise, never ever attack the neck, head or upper body if you intend to make them succumb to pain. If you damage the nerves in the neck, they become completely immune to pain for the rest of their lives. They might also suffocate eventually if you do enough damage, and they'll be permanently crippled either way, but they will never ever succumb to pain.

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You COCKSUCKING INSECT

I WILL MAKE YOU PAY FOR THIS

>>152837702
>can absurd levels of miasma be fatak?
no
you could try capturing a forgotten beast with deadly dust or poisonous gas. not all of those cause syndromes strong enough to cause instant death though

really you're better off using magma or water, even if it's boring
maybe you could rig something up with magma mist? usually I try to avoid playing with the stuff so I don't know much about how it works, but something like
>visitor tavern/trade depot - floor is mostly grates
>level below - retracting bridges loaded with junk
>level below - magma
might work

>>152838113
Huh, educational, thanks.

>>152838113
nice

adding to that, severing causes bleeding, bleeding causes death and dead things feel no pain

>>152724863
>doesn't utilize z-levels to store common reagents
lol

>>152840076
This.
Whenever someone passes out from pain I like to see if I can sever all their limbs before they bleed to death. Usually they bleed to death first.

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>YOU HAVE STRUCK TETRAHEDRITE!

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I have a very developed and mature sense of humor

>>152810178
>>152808613
I'm about to sell bags of useless plum pits, apple seeds etc. to the elves. It seems like the sort of thing they'd appreciate.

>>152808736
>>152809125
>>152809342
I had a fort of about 80 dwarves which did almost no farming at all (just a couple small patches of rope reeds), subsisting entirely on plant gathering in about a quarter of the map. Not only that, but I was exporting several barrels full of avocados or olives or limes each year.

>>152833726
I like them. They're a convenient source of water and a way to dispose of it, and figuring out how to get through them was some of my best times in DF.
>>152838113
I thought Toady fixed broken pinky toes making hardened warriors pass out.

>>152840875
>I thought Toady fixed broken pinky toes making hardened warriors pass out.
He did.
Instead of passing out because a stray arrow bruised your pinky bone, you now have to fracture about 3-4 major bones or 6-8 fingers/toes.
Still, a broken pinky is and always will be ten times more painful than getting a sword lodged in your gut because bones are pretty much the only tissue that actually feels pain.

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>>152840812
I'm sure your mayor is highly appreciative of those fabulous accommodations.

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>randomly find a bunch of civilians roaming the catacombs under a town
>swap-herd one down to where the mummy is
>jump towards them a couple times til they land in the wrong spot
>close combat/dodge/dodge away for life

more adventure stories from eagle man

>talk to lord
>"some faggot's marching on us"
>well shit I like this village
>go to faggot's place with my new; all female crew
>shank him to death after figuring out roughly where his army is
>spend a few hours being really confused about armies and siege mechanics (how the fuck do they work)
>stumble upon his dudes
>they're all asleep
>start cutting throats
>nobody wakes up
>finish off first camp

>second camp
>decide to bring out a silver whip I found to level the skill
>begin smashing skulls with a whip
>nobody fucking wakes up

I murdered about 30 soldiers and all I needed was myself and twenty good men