/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

Shield bash is good and if you don't use it, you're a shitter.

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LONDOR IS A SHITHOLE
YURIA IS A WHORE
KAATHE IS A JEW

>>152467131
i agree

it should have hyper armor and deal more damage tho

>>152466925
Don't just copy Lucifag's OP, man. Come on.

>>152467173
it should have hyper armor and continue pushing the opponent until you run out of stamina

no wait, new shield WA: shield charge

>>152467156
How dare you

>>152467242
It's not that bad. Whether it's made by lucifag or not, I don't have an issue with Bloodborne being in the OP. After all, King's Field is there and yet nobody complains.

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Please send help.

PC NG+6, dsg

>>152467370
>ng+6

pussy

on my way fampai

>>152467370
What in gods name has occurred with your HUD?

>>152467370
>NG+ 666 666 pope
hehehe no

>>152467131
Rolling and attacking would be better in most cases.
Shield bash on a build that doesn't rely on shields for blocking is pointless, and since shields are shit in Bloodborne Souls 3, there's no point.

>>152467370
i got lucky yesterday, i'll try

>>152467370
I'll be there once i'm done with farming shekels, i only need 3

>>152467472
>shields are shit
>bloodborne souls 3

the delusion is immensely powerful in this one

>>152467367
It's the principle of the thing. Pretty sure it's missing a ton of stuff, too.

One of these days, I'll actually play KF

>>152467370
Summon me at the Yorshka's church tho

I'm too shit to path around and deal with doggies

>>152467554
I've shieldbroken greatshields with a pocket BSS plenty of times. The stamina cost for rolling is so trivial, and the risk of being shieldbroken and riposted is so great that I can't imagine using one purely for blocking.

>>152467752
Barbed Straight Sword, by the way, not Broken.

What do you think of the Hollowslayer greatsword /dsg/?

>>152467752
You can shieldbreak anything

even if you had 90 stability GS can still be shieldbroken with a combination of bad stamina management on behalf of the user and well-thoughtout aggressiveness on the attack

saying they're flatout bad or useless is an enormous overstatement, when in fact they're probably the singular most powerful thing a player can have to trivialize both PvE and PvE

source: literally just cheesed NG+6 spacepope with HGS

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>>152468262
im using this in the future

thanks for the shitpost inspiration

also, cute

>>152468262
>ordinary blacksmith
>outlived most of the fucking gods

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GUESS WHAT SHIT-FOR-BRAINS?

IT'S TIME FOR AN OFFICIAL /dsg/ IRITHYLL LEDGE PC FC. GET YOUR FAT ASSES OVER HERE.

The following is effectively banned:
Hornet Ring
Hyperpassivity
Of course, I have no real way to enforce these rules, so you can bring them if you'd like, just don't expect to get summoned again.


Otherwise, everything else is tolerated. However, meta weapons and tactics are highly frowned upon as they are non-conducive to a friendly pvp environment

Signs outside Distant Manor fogdoor.

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>>152469013
>The following is effectively banned

>>152468481
Andre is the true endboss of Souls.

>>152469013
Ohh, so that's why you summoned me, I was trying to helo another anon with NG+6 papa pontiff

>>152469102
Ironically, I've never had anyone do any of these things except paddrick violating the hyperpassivity rule once or twice.

>>152469161
He's already dead, fool. Me, Champ, and some cute witch slut killed his ass.

>>152469204
Now I feel dumb

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>>152469013
>shit meme locations
>banning people from playing, but it's okay if Paddrick does it
>haha estoc greatshield
Don't go guys, there's trouble afoot.

>>152469342
Since I kicked paddrick's ass he doesn't do it anymore, so I don't have a problem with summoning him.

Have they fixed dual wielding yet?
Can't believe they fucked up such simple thing so much.

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>>152467367
Luci is actually alright sometimes, I don't agree with his hateboner for DS2 but
>opinions

Speaking of Souls, are there any good DS3 comics?

>>152469530
Why do you speak of yourself in the third person?

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Shamefur Dispray

>>152469342
Oh hey, can you post the pasta? Something i want to check

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Creative ways I can ruin the host's day as a friendly phantom?

what's a good spear for faith builds

>>152469530
his hateboner for ds2 and making priscilla the pic of every single fucking thread he makes are the things that piss me off about him the most

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>>152469758
Listen here niggers, the following character names at an FC means trouble, and you should avoid FCs if the following are present

>Crusader/Burnt Vincent
>Drake
>Natalya
>Rules of nature
>Depression
>Heavy Knight
>Battlemage Ley/Ley
>Paddrick
>Samuel McClure
>Fyre
>Berke
>Dietrich
>Hierke
>Reginald
>Straylight
>Mikoto
>Zilrael
>Reckless Pete
>Alsatia
>Fudman
>Huntsman Andy
>Smug Loli
>BEANBADDY
>Lucio/Lucio the Wolf
>Ryye
>Dog
>Ariya
>Serene Haze
>Rhino
>Champion Conrad
>any "LOL SO RANDUM XDDD" memer (judge by their clothes)
>anyone carrying a metacancer weapon
>anyone with minmaxer's armor

That should cover it for the *most* part.

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>reinstalled Dark Souls
>finally beat Quelaag
>turned out she was piss easy
>beat her by poking her with my lance, doing literally 30 dmg per hit, took me 15 minutes
>accidentally refused Engyi's offer
>killed him
>got killed by the worms because the chosen undead does not master the Y axis and cannot hit what's under his waist with the spear
>came back
>found some egg shit on Engyi's corpse
>found Kumo
Wasn't Engyi mentionned in Dark Soul 3 or something? His name rings a bell.

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>>152469530
There's this cool one.
There's also those lordran and beyond stuff which is actually cool.
Also purple edits.

But don't worry, we just got BB's prime material with the DLC

>>152470061
Hey, that list hasn't grown in a while, what the fuck?
I want you to go into the FC right now and make it bigger

>>152470061
Thanks
>Quality isnt on there
Cmon dude are you even trying

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Fuck me sideways I never knew the Dragonslayer Greataxe WA could be parried.

>>152470667
London?

>>152470667
Did you rike it? 8^]

>missed with piercing shield
Feels bad

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>>152470589
>>152470479
I'm just posting the old pasta

I'll add Quality next time, chan chan.

>>152470735
Loved it bb.

>>152470809
that weapon art is great

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boys

>made quality fall off
feels good mang

>>152470891

How about some source NIGGER

>>152471208
My ass.

>>152471208
24 :^)

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Lucio, pls, you are invisible for me, stop

WHY THE FUCK DOES SEED EXIST. WHY
THERE LITERALLY A GORILLIANS DRAWBACKS TO BEING AN INVADER. BUT THAT WASN'T ENOUGH FOR CASUAL SCUM. THEY HAD TO PUT IN YET ANOTHER FUCKING NO-RISK ADVANTAGE FOR THESE FAGGOTS
FUCK YOU FROMSHITWARE

>>152471548
casual invader detected

git gud

also, sorry quality I figured you were out of sunny d

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>>152471548
Cry more faggot.

>>152468481
>so this is the power...of fanservice
>not bad...
>be careful out there
>neither of us wants to see you go hollow

>>152471586
>>152471615
>neo-/v/irigns who got anally raped in the previous games defending this shit-pandering one

>>152471548
>can't deal with pve

>>152471548
You have to understand that From has no intentions to design invasions in the favor of the invader, because that would be extremely stupid. The purpose of invading is to hinder the progress of the host through the level, that's it. You're just a random chance mini boss encounter.

>>152468481
About André, what was the deal with those statues of him in Darkrootgarden and The Tombes of the giants, the ones holding special embers, were they statue ou petrified people?
Why did they look like him?

>>152471535
...oh

>>152471715
are you stupid or something?

literally just acquire skill and invade when you know how to fight multiple enemies at a time

>>152471548
Seed by itself isn't bad and shouldn't be removed. They should just disable it woth phantoms

Explain how is seed bad if host is solo.

Goddamit Quality and your Russian internet.

>>152471715
>get rekt because he's a bitch
>n-n-n-n-neo virgin
We all aknowledge your loss.

>>152471827
>just git gud XD

Meanwhile your faggot ass CEs and Gank. Everytime you faggots say "git gud" post a webm of your oh so amazing gank spanks on 1 v the world.

>>152471721

Well it sucks when your weapon is more fit for pvp than pve and the guy is in NG+7. Or when they use the mobs against you WHILE ganking

>>152469102
>no poise or defense
I think we're alright in that regard, at least.

>>152471909
Don't delude yourself bitch. You are complete trash compared to me. The only reason you'd defend trash design is because your faggot ass uses it.

>>152471535
>BKGlaive
I hope the spooky ghosts haunt your sleep, faggot

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>>152472043
>bitches about seed
>while pretending he's good
If you were good, you wouldn't be whining like a bitch to a legimitate mechanism, faggot.

>>152472071
>baww stop using effective means of defeating another player!

can we just ban crybabies from future FCs?

>>152472190
But then the FCs would be empty.

>>152472270
:(

>>152471548
The seed is the only fun thing left in DaS3 pvp. If only you could seed permagravelorded DS1.

>>152471208
It's just cut content that got left in.
There's a whole bundle of old cut content from early-development that were obviously left in from before they had a clear direction for the game. Tonnes of things reference "the Frigid Valley" and refer to Sulyvahn as some Old Dark King possessed by an ancient evil.

That key is referencing the bridge at the start of the undead settlement, and supposedly was from before they decided to lazily recycle the batwing demons.

>>152472091
You were fine on my end, I thought you froze cause you stood still but it was the guy you were fighting. he did the same on my end

>>152472404

Well pontiff is not a king but he is possessed by an ancient evil. He wasn't always like that, only after he discovered the profaned flame.
The DLC could still be about the gods, it is time to wrap that up anyway. I mean when if not now? The DLCs will be very different from the main game anyway as memezaki said

>>152472545
>he is possessed by an ancient evil
Don't you fucking make him excuses, he wasn't possessed at all. He knew what he did. Just like the jailers in the Irythrill dungeon.

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>>152471548
>mfw gangbanging invaders with three phantoms and a seed

>>152472449
>>152472091
It's pretty obvious that i started lagging, I'm out

damn I can't defeat quality even like this I suck

>>152472645

The profaned flame is said to corrupt people who are exposed to it. He was exposed to it and that "Burning ambition" that drove him since then came from that flame.

What would happen if i put my dick into the gaping dragon?

would you lads rather be submerged in an incredibly strong vat of alkaline solution or acidic solution

trying to decide on a name for a str/int char and it needs to be edgy as fuck

>>152473028
she'll probably just eat you dude

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uhh

>>152472928
It corrupt people, yeah. But literally. The demons and the Burned Ivory King were literally corrupted by the Flame.
The Pontiff Turbofaggot didn't, he just used it to become stronger, but didn't get corrupted.

All the atrocities he caused were done on purpose. If there's a character in Dark Souls that deserves to go to hell, it's him.

>>152473028
I think it's to small
Or if you think about it, it's not to small it's just that the gaping dragon is what r9k would call a roastie

>fashion is literally 0.05 over 70
>fat roll
RRRRRREEEEEEEEEE

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>>152473250
Just put a point in vitality bro ;)

>>152473250
take a point out of end or dex and put it into vit

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>>152471548
>not aggroing everything and bringing the party to the host

>Dark Souls 2
>get killed in two hits
>check my stats
>vitality : 15
Holy shit

Better restart a new character. Dark Souls doesn't allow respec, right?

>>152473143
>all these Ashen ones/Chosen undead you invade

Why are people so uncreative?

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I miss pre-softs DaS2.

>>152473514
Dark Souls 2 introduced respec

>>152472843
I am a tournament tryhard, who knows very well how to fight with and against meta weapons. Your best chances of winning against me are in silly duels with shitty weapons.

>>152473175

I don't think the profaned flame and the chaos flame are the same. The chaos flame is gone, the profaned flame isn't.
And it's just really heavily implied that everything he did since he found the profaned flame was due to that flame.
I mean "Burning" ambition, after the found the flame. How literal can it get

Realtalk is it just me or did a patch for this game just kill performance at some point?

I keep getting stutters and it is doing my fucking nut in lads.

>>152473592
Playing Dark Souls is going to be really painful after being used to SotFS and DaS3.

>>152473641
Wait, hang on.
The Chaos Flame is the one the Witch of Izalith created, right? The one that turned Keloggs into Kumo and everyone else into demons?
What's the Profaned Flame? I thought it was the same?

man why do you guys have so many fight club rules

i mean, metafags are annoying but shit

>>152473752
Just level vit/res and you'll be fine. For some reason they changed vit from the health stat to the load stat

>>152473752

The soul of one of the demons you can get states that the chaos flame didn't survive.
But the thing you see in the profaned capital, that the ladies are guarding is the source of the profaned flame.
The chaos one gave birth to demons and shit and chaos is basically its own element but the profaned one seems to be tainted by the dark, a dark flame so to say. It was created by a curse, I think the weird axe you find by the poopoo monsters has it in the description

>>152473929
>level RES

Not even as a joke should you be telling people this, c'mon.

>>152473624
I see. I literally never play with straight swords.

>>152473769
You still aren't operating in the proper level of irony yet

>>152474005
Dude poison resist

>>152473929
No offense, but I think I'll raise HP and equip load in priority. I can only wear light armour and it's pretty shit.

>>152474005
How else will you do Blighttown before darkroot? Oh, that's right, you won't, fucking noob

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Alright lads, it was a short, small FC today, but I hope you guys had some good fights.

May host tonight.

THIS POST CONCLUDES THE OFFICIAL /dsg/ IRITHYLL LEDGE PC FC

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I'm playing Dark Souls 1 and some nigger hacker invaded me, hit me and now I have two permanent debuffs, one of them breaks my equipment, dunno what the other one does.
Can I use a trainer or cheat engine or something to get rid of them? Pic related is the debuffs

>end up fighting a 1v6 because the host can just infinitely summon phantoms
make it stop already

>>152474643
Fuck off attention whore

>>152474643
thank you for hosting man

>>152474814
wut

lad, just letting people know the FCs over so they don't wait around with their signs down for 10 minutes for nothing

>>152474648
Just keep backups of your saves.

>>152475272
That is not very helpful now.

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>>152474746
i wish poison was effective throughout the whole game for silently murdering host who summons waves of coopers

>>152474648
Don't know. You can get some mods to auto -DC from those in the future

>>152475354
What with that shit on your head?

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>>152475472
you mean the best headgear in the whole game?

>>152471548
Of all the retarded decisions they added to DS3 to castrate invasions, seed is fine.
You have to be invaded for them to grow, and all it does is turn it into a free for all instead of a rousing game of comb the map for the faggot.

Now if you could invade in a 1 v 1 now and then or not switch into way of the blue/summon while invaded it would be better.
But then you'd still have to deal with free sippies (worse if you're a mage), and a dead game cause no invasions on unember or boss clear.

>>152475354
Wish we had toxic weapons

>>152475554
What the fuck is that?

>>152475579
Not to mention they don't drop as often as they did before.

>>152475579
>Of all the retarded decisions they added to DS3 to castrate invasions, seed is fine.
No. It's literally the worst balance decision they carried over from DS2. And they carried a lot of retarded shit from DS2 for invaders. Invader should be an environmental hazard. If he runs to the enemies, summon more coopers. It's that easy. This is how i've dealt with all townshit runners back in DS1, ganking their asses all around the oolacile.

>>152475354
>needing buffed DSA just to deal with high wall phantoms
lmao /dsg/ shitters everybody

>>152471548
just agro everything and get them to the host, they get priority over you besides if you lost the host had to waste a seed on you
now phantoms that pretend to be friendly and let you 1 on 1 just to get saltyy when you are winning, now that is cancer and infinite summons for the host

>>152471762
then why put rewards for killing the host?

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>accidentally give orbecks ashes to the maiden
FUCK

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>>152475608
Hopefully DLC will at least deliver gravelord greatsword.

>>152475684

>What the fuck is that?
I can forgive no knowing where to get it but not knowing what it is...? Go play 1

>>152475579
Umembered mode is totally fine. You should have to use an item to go online, not use it to avoid online. Now if only it didn't involve the 30% health boost. I have no idea why 1 is the only game to remove HP penalties from online, as it should be.
Bosses ending invasions suck though

>>152475803
git gud

>>152475608
we do they are called the css and the estoc

>>152475887
>he killed Orbeck
Faggot. You killed the only vendor who had a good end.

>>152475736
>defending the use of ganks and not a fairer alternative

1v1 seed is perfectly fine

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>>152475803
sorry for raping your ass anon

>>152476043
>good end
He dies in the archives, m8

>>152475852
>then why put rewards for killing the host?
In case you win a scenario you weren't intended to win?

>>152476081
Wait, he does?

...Well, fuck. That ruined my mood. I was so happy when he told me about his life and how happy he was to have a good student.
I bought all his sorceriees despite never using any magic.

>>152476070
twinks are literally children

As someone who is playing the souls series for the first time, I am having fun.

I started with Dark Souls 3, and it was kind of rough at first, but as I'm going along I'm wiping less and less to bosses. For all the meme'ing, it really didn't take long to "git gud"

I dislike the game forces an ember on me after every boss kill. I continue playing normally until some faggot invades, then take a dive off the nearest cliff to deny them the satisfaction of a fight. Fuck the pvp minigame.

As soon as I'm done with the pve content, I'm going to Bloodborne, as it has better fashion

>>152476070
No... It cannot be...

YHVH...

>>152476331
>take a dive off the nearest cliff to deny them the satisfaction of a fight
You still give them souls, and you miss all the jolly cooperation.

Jolly cooperations are the reason I got into Dark Souls.

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>>152473752
>Playing Dark Souls is going to be really painful after being used to SotFS

I'm not a DaS2 hater, but :
Dark Souls 1's combat feels tighter, it seems that like the sound effects are better and while the game is rougher, I think that it has much more atmosphere.

Things like parries and ripostes feel better, Dark Souls 1 is in a word, "unrefined", but I think that it has a certain charm to it thanks to that, and imo it has much more exploration rewards than DS3 for example. I like what DS2 set out to do, but it feels like it fell shorter of it's goals than DaS1 did and I think one reason for that was that DS2 feels like a game that was intended for PS4 / XBone generation of consoles rather than xbox360 / PS3 and they had to scale down everything to fit the game to the other consoles as well as dealing with the fact that a part of the development team fucked off to do shit with Bloodborne.


Also, on another note, get a load of this image of Lordran (btw, does anyone have a bigger picture?)

>>152476420
>invaders
>caring about souls

I only hide in levels and wait for blues to farm

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New dlc means new npc invaders
do you guys had character with friendly lore names to pose as game invaders and trick people?

im looking forward to do a maldron the assasin but im sure censor will fuck my name

>>152476170
30 times?
i understand what do you mean and sometimes when i know im not going to win im at least glad that the host wont have enough estus for the boss or get to the next bonfire, or just bc out to negate the reward for the blue sentinel

>>152476331
just play the game offline?

>>152476491
I actually prefer DaS2's combat to Dark Souls.

And I really hate DaS's UI. Compared to DaS3's, it's shit. SHIT.
If I drop Dark Souls, it'll be 90% because of the UI and 10% because of the weapons.

>>152476684
I really like the humanity counter. Oncreasing it to 99 after farming a fuckton of items is great

>>152476656
Not him but messages, bloodstains and ghosts are the only reason I play online

Anyone here ever look as closely as you can at SoC? Also, what ending should I get? I'm thinking about burning myself my dude because I killed yuria.

>>152477132
Endings don't change shit, but remember to never summon Yuria and always kill her after SoC for the loot

>>152475918
I have just under 300 hours into das1 and i have literally never seen anybody wear it

Could somebody drop me a dark hand? I want to do a playthrough with two of those. I got one from Yuria, but would have to go to NG+ for the second one.
If you want something in return, state it in a reply. One of my other characters most likely has it.

PC

>>152476963
I don't like the humanity system. It penalizes death too much.
Dark Souls 2 was even worse with the max HP handicap.

Death in Dark Souls 3 is a slap on the wrist compared to them.

>>152477389
If it's the glove thingy, I have it. If it's a spell or another thing, I don't have it.

>>152477286

Didn't you enter the painted world? Or maybe you just didn't meet the requirements for him to invade or anything, but it's the xanthrous crown, an invader in the painted world wears it in 1 and in 3 the set is back.

>>152475736
>invaders should always be able to hide in the map and stall
>the better solution is to summon help whenever I have a problem with an invader and gank because it's easy
>this more balanced and fun than a 1 v 1 fight with wildcard enemies
>seed is literally the worst balance decision but running around summoning a never ending army is fine

Alarm, casual summon faggot detected.
Do you even invade? I can't imagine any invader saying he enjoys 1v3ing phantoms with an essential 1 shot meme build over fighting 1v1 in a seeded world with more open builds.

>>152477389
forgot something pretty important
the pass is hand, place a red sign next to the high wall bonfire

>>152477260
>never summon Yuria
but you get her gear after summoning her

>>152477132
Oh and is soc able to be parried in his first stage?

>>152477523

Xanthous*

>>152477513
It's the glove thing.

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Why don't people admit DS2 had the best pvp by far?

>>152477607
no, but he can parry you in scimitar/pyro phase

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>>152476331
>it really didn't take long to "git gud"
>suicides like a faggot because he's afraid of invaders

>For all the meme'ing, it really didn't take long to "git gud"
Well it helps that there's pretty much only one playstyle if you're doing melee and the environments aren't nearly as challenging as Dark Souls 1. The PvE enemies are I'd say harder and put in more challenging arrangements, but :

Dark Souls 1 (and Demon's Souls) had a large variety of playstyles. The game was balanced around the players using decently protective armor that you could upgrade, weapons that could be upgraded to a certain extent with different infusions if you decided to go off the beaten path but generally speaking the game didn't hand you everything as you go along, you can choose to do things in a different order to make things easier for yourself but you didn't have to if you couldn't find said shit or just wanted to tought it out. In Dark Souls 1 you COULD happen upon an optional area and get the Divine Infusion which made Catacombs much less of a pain, but if you were gud or wanted to tough it out without a Divine weapon, you absolutely could depending on how much patience you had. A lot of the times even if you went into a place that was a "dead end", you could find useful shit but happening upon said useful shit wasn't as automatic as it is in Dark Souls 3. You're rewarded for exploration in DS3, but generally speaking the "intended" order to do things railroads the game a whole lot because it's just better in every way with the exception if you want to twink or not.

Anyway back to the point :
Dark Souls 1 was balanced around players having protection and you got the shit roll if your equip load was above 50%. Then you midrolled until you were under 25% which gave you the good roll. If you midrolled, you were more likely get hit and the game was balanced around the player wearing armor and having actual protection (as opposed to DS3 where armor does between jack and shit)

>>152477734
it didn't

>>152477664
Nevermind, I checked. The dark hand Yuria sells, right? I don't have it. Wait for someone else to drop it for you.

And then drop one for me too because I don't have one and I'm curious to see it.

>>152477751
Oh baby oh baby

Posts your Bearer of the Curse /dsg/
I need fashion ideas

>>152477864
invasions were great unlike ds3's
poise and lagstabs didn't rule everything like in ds1
I don't see how it didn't

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Anyone up for carrying a PS4 scrub through the Farron Swamp area?

If so, drop sign at the bonfire with the password: 1justice

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>>152477919
>DaS2

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>>152477919
Have a slut instead

>>152477531
>1v1 seeded
This is almost never the fucking case. Its 1v4(5)vEvery enemies

If seeds removed the ability summon then it would be fine

>>152477915
what?

>>152478008
I want to spank that ass.

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>>152477864

>>152477513
What?
How is a gradual hp handicap that can be offset by a ring worse than instantly losing a significant chunk?

DS2 literally has a system where you can just pray at a Shrine to regain humanity, and that's only if you manage to burn through humanities that they hand out like fucking candy. Like, literally just chests holding 5 of them. I don't remember any chests in DS3 containing embers.

>>152478008
Which bonfire? Farron Keep?

>>152478076
Vinesauce reference.

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>>152478108
It is not for spanking, anon.

please wet your hand before you do spank it, though

>>152471609
>>152470960
So can pyro go well with strength/ dex or is it pure in das1?
Is strength pyro viable?

>>152478184
Aye. The first one after the fattie exiles.

Much obliged.

>>152478262
>wet your hand
What, is that a thing?

>>152477989
DS33 is the most fun I've had with invasions to be honest.
In ds1 it was just too easy and unreliable. In ds2 lmao soul memory, stopped playing before that ring.

In ds3 however, I think it's a good balance of power between the invader and the host. The only real issue I have is the host being able to summon new phantoms while there is an invader. I think that should be disabled.

Does anyone even summon for soc?

>>152474648

Your talisman and pyro flame are broken.

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>>152477919
It looked better in 1 but I used this because I enjoy the Dingy Set

>>152478262
>wet your hand
Sure, but why?

>>152478056
Are you fucking retarded?

>Now if you could invade in a 1 v 1 now and then or not switch into way of the blue/summon while invaded it would be better.

This entire fucking convo started with me insisting that seed wasn't "literally the worst balance decision", then someone fucking insisting that summoning was a better solution to an invader.

My entire premise is that seed would be perfectly fine if an invader could actually get a 1 v 1 and the host couldn't summon help out the ass as soon as they see the text.

>>152478418
You're either masochistic or really lucky. I'm not gonna shit on your specific experience, but mine was hosts that kept running and healing for 40 minutes while summoning a fucking legion of phantoms, having blues popping up all the time as well as seeding to fuck me up. Even when I did beat them, it didn't feel good. I can hardly see how that's balanced. In ds1 and 2 at least you had a chance, and it was amazingly fun to screw hosts over in so many creative manners.

>>152478392
Also I dropped BB at that mutilated creature, is it woth picking up again?
Can you realocate stars?
I've got some sopare time because my dad killed himself and as I'm bipolar/schitz they dont want me freaking out so I'm heavily sedated and got a month off work

>0.134 seconds of vulnerability when using Carthus Bloodring

>0.134 seconds

The fastest TTK in most FPS games when chaining headshots and landing all hits is at least 0.2s for comparison

The average reaction time for humans is 0.25 seconds to a visual stimulus, 0.17 for an audio stimulus, and 0.15 seconds for a touch stimulus.

>>152478732
DID YOU RIKE IT ?

>>152478732
I thought the reaction time was a little less than 1 second, not 1/4th second.

>>152478652
I rather fight 1v3. As I have done in every game previously. Clearly you're a shitter.

>>152477842

>DS3 where armor does between jack and shit

That settles it, I'm just gonna wear what looks cool.

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>>152477919

>>152478732
>pvp specific nerfs exist
>bloodring isn't one of them
japs are retarded

>>152478685
I invade in the settlements-catacombs range where your late game gear gives you a significant enough advantage to be able to handle a 3v1 reliably. I'm sure in the end game areas it's pure hell which is why I haven't even bothered.

And no I don't turbo twink with Dragonslayer's Axe buffed with a Gold Pine Resin or anything, that's just way too easy to be any fun. But I do win a good 3/4 of my invasions.

>>152477734
>took them almost a whole year to add agape which was essential for the worst matchmaking system to even exist

>>152478732
The only good way to counter bloodring is to trade. As if it helps when bloodring users have gotthards rolling l1

>Dark Souls 2 isn't canon
Feels good man.

>>152478928
No, really, just say what is wrong with a 1v1 in a seeded world

>>152479281
1/10
Made me reply.

>>152479281
Unfortunately if you read a more accurate translation of the game, it's not only canon but that shitter Aldia and his ending is too

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>>152476331
>>152477842

Continued :
Because you got the best roll(most iframes) when your equip load was under 25%, it meant that you could only wear really light armor, especially if you wanted a weapon worth a damn. This meant that bosses and PvE in general were balanced for midrollers who could tank hits with a shield but your guy was parkouring all over the place practically naked. This along with the more challenging combat ENVIRONMENTS meant that getting 'gud' meant actually getting gud instead of "doing okay playing the game as it was intended by designers". In DS3 everybody "fastrolls" and the game is balanced around everybody fastrolling, even the shitters, so the fastrolls are even more forgiving than they were in DaS1. While I think that the challenge for the average player has increased, this means that there's much less difference between a "gud" player and your average noob shitter IN PVE since everybody can afford the fastrolling playstyle as it's what the game was based around on and the roleplaying has decreased a lot since if you want to be "efficient", you want to go the standard 40/40 quality and in the beginning use a raw infusion. It feels like the entire character progression element just fell out of DS3 in exchange for assuring that everybody gets a good first experience out of the package.

>>152479367
>>152479436
t. Tanimura

Is the pyromancer class the most stupidly minmaxed one?
>7 luck when you'll never use it
>high casting stats and ATT
>str/dex are in great places to meet many weapons base stats with or without + stat rings
>okay end and vig which you'll increase anyway
>only 1 wasted point in vitality

I mean, why is there no melee with 7/8 casting stats or sorcerer and cleric have high luck? There's no other class in the 3 actually that well geared to be built as it's meant to

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>>152477919

>>152479713
Knight, Warrior, Thief and Pyro were the only 4 starting classes that received any amount of thought. The rest were just tossed in for the sake of different starting gear and flavour.

>>152479713
Warrior for SL80 and Knight for everything else are also minmaxed, but what is the issue with Pyro being totaled right?

From a lore perspective, I think DaS2 has the best system.
Undead losing sight of who they are and becoming hollows makes me sense then using magical humanity to not go hollow.

>>152478705
No one?

>>152479579
>there's much less difference between a "gud" player and your average noob shitter IN PVE since everybody can afford the fastrolling playstyle

So you're saying the skill ceiling is still the same, but the skill floor has moved up? I find nothing wrong with this.

>>152480229
We never answer to crazies.

>>152478392
Dex Pyro is the best option simply because DEX weapons are in general better than STR weapons and dex increases your casting speed. Basically, when doing a pyro build you go for something like this:
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/512345
>>152480015
DS1 system also made a lot of sense, because humanity was literally a fragment of the dark souls. Losing magical humanity is literally the same as losing your soul.

>>152480243
People like you are what's wrong with the world

>>152479912
It is not an issue, the problem is that others aren't like it. Heck, if I wanted to make a tinder sorcerer pyro is better than sorcerer.

>>152479874
They aren't even that much. Knight has 15 vit which you may or may not use as well as 2 wasted points in fth or int because you aren't going to use both.
Warrior meanwhile has so much luck that a pure quality build wastes a few points too.
Thief is okay but you need to think of something to do with that ATT or it's just more wasted points.

I dunno, it just feels weird to me pyro makes use of every single point he has except vit.

>>152480243
How do you get that out of what you're reading?
He's saying the exact opposite, the skill ceiling has descended, and the skill floor along with it.

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>>152477842
>>152479579

Continued (Damn this character limit, why is the website so fucking stingy with it?)

Imagine Dark Souls series as burger meals :
DS1 is a burger that's balanced really well, not overloaded with anything, it tastes good, has all the ingredients in a balanced manner but you don't think much of it until you've tasted the other ones. The last bites have pickles in them and as a last bite you get a fairly sour taste.
The fries, onion rings and the drink are solid and you can get the bundle for a fairly okay price but there's not a whole lot of the sides.

DS2 is a burger with a sloppy steak reminiscent of the first one and it's drowned out by salad, sauce cabbage and pickles, all cheap ingredients but the burger is almost overflowing. In other words, there's a lot of content and you technically speaking get a lot for your money but the core of the experience (i.e the steak) is underwhelming. It staves off the hunger, but at the end of the day, you wouldn't characterize the burger as "good".
The sides are incredibly good, but they don't come with the burger and you have to buy the fries, the onion rings and the drink separately which makes them the most expensive option as a whole.

DS3 is a burger with an amazing steak, good bun and good cheese, but very little salad, the sides are non-existent and the drink that comes with it is tiny. You ate the burger so quickly you almost bit your fingers off but after that went like "wtf, is this all?". You're nervously hoping that maybe the sides will have more to eat since the burger tasted great but you're still hungry and you start miss the extra shit that made the first burger a more balanced meal .

>>152480243
No, the skill floor remains the same, but the ceiling went down.
You could even argue that both went down but the ceiling went further

Thanks for the help, great sword friend! Appreciate it.

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>>152480563
>food analogy

>>152480563
>food anology

No that I'm against you, but why did you have to go this route?

>>152479782
I don't like DaS2 but the fashion is so fucking great

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>>152477919
works with the mannikin mask as well

>>152480323
I don't really like how they explained it with "it's magic". I liked DaS2's semi-philosophical approach, because it could almost apply to our world if people suddenly became immortal here.

Meanwhile DaS1 just say "it's the dark soul" but never quite explain what the dark soul is or what happen if the Age of Dark starts.

>>152480995
Why does the mask look so smug in 2?

>>152481135
You know 1 also did the forgetting self thing right? It was more about giving up on your purpose though

>>152481152
Because it's curved upwards as though smiling, and the stark white + sofs AO emphasizes that smile way too much

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>>152481135
>Dark Souls 1 sets up a good balance of mystery and 'knowledge' of hollowing, abyss, etc.
>fags like this force FROM to spill the beans about shit and give shitty explanations

>>152481152
im guessing because even when the game has some obvious flaws, the b team was more lax around certain decisions, like slutty clothing, sassy ass gestures for pvp, weapon animations and shit like the fairy wings, miyazacki needs to stop taking the game so seriously and add stupid shit like this

>>152480754
No problem. It was fun.

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>>152476331
>I started with Dark Souls 3
Idiot
>For all the meme'ing, it really didn't take long to "git gud"
Easiest in the series by a country mile
>I continue playing normally until some faggot invades, then take a dive off the nearest cliff to deny them the satisfaction of a fight. Fuck the pvp minigame
If you had any kind of self-awareness, I think you'd find that you are the faggot here
>As soon as I'm done with the pve content, I'm going to Bloodborne, as it has better fashion
Don't bother with the rest of the series, you'll just become another idiot with awful opinions that I'll have to suffer

>>152476559
This comic would be slightly dramatic if dying actually had real consequences.

>>152481359
Fairy wings on DaS3 when?

>>152481280
Yeah but the first is unclear on the influence of the loss of humanity on the whole hollowing process.
Dark Souls 2 is a bit more consistent and doesn't contradict itself with "running out of humanity mean you go hollow, oh wait, unless you still have a purpose, once you lose your purpose, you go hollow, and then you lose your humanity, unless you're the player character".

Dark Souls 2 just drops the whole humanity thing (probably because the hollows in Drangleic aren't related to Manus) and just focus on the purpose thing.

>>152481392
Autism

>>152476559
I love making characters with such silly names

>>152481559
i think never
but if they do ill equip them with the dragon tooth and call myself the tooth fairy

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>>152481392

>>152476559
And then Dark Souls 3 changed it by giving the phantom 1/3 of his estus, forcing the host to be the tank.

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>>152476070
My long estranged brother!

>d-dark souls 2 is shit
Then why did it win game of the year?

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alright dsg I want to know what is the most fun pvp-build in your opinion.
show me what your got.

DLC WHEN REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>152478928
I started this against someone who argued that summoning help against invaders to gank was good balance and that seed was bad then ended with someone who rather chase a roll spamming host through endless phantoms in the slim hope he can bait host into a hornet ring parry because he's "good".

So I assume since you love endless 1v3s you have no fucking problem with seed, you fucking faggot?
You people need to find each other and create a suicide pact,

WITCH BEATRICE IS CUTE, CUTE, CUTE

>three-shots Moonlight Butterfly
>I actually wanted to solo this boss, but she is too qt

>>152482006
because the year was shit

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>>152480243
>So you're saying the skill ceiling is still the same
Skill ceiling has lowered a lot compared to the average player (again, we're talking about PvE).

>I find nothing wrong with this.
I don't think you could fully understand this since DS3 was your first Souls game.

I partially reject /v/-style "hurr, all that matters is that the game is hard so I can brag to my friends about how I beat it!"-type of thinking, but what DS3 keeping the base experience the same for pretty much everyone and lowering the skill ceiling (I think that it's good that From designed the game around fast and responsive gameplay so that the PvE feels fun) has made one thing kind of a downer in terms of replay value :

There's no real room to grow as a player since you're already playing the "best" there is : all "alternative" playstyles you would try in the game are going to be INFERIOR to the base experience that everyone gets (i.e you don't trade defense for mobility, you can have whatever defense the game allows AND mobility). Similarly the differences between classes are only the stat spread and starting gear. If a Knight fastrolls in their starting armor while wearing all of it and gets an attunement slot from the start instead of having to sacrifice anything else except maybe a stat spread that you might not want depending on the build you're going for but in the end it doesn't even matter because lol you're going to go first raw and then refined because if you aren't, you're a doofus. In DS1 you can go for a variety of different "infusions" fairly early on and they all have their strengths and weaknesses that actually matter because you have choices in terms of progression and where to go, since enemies are weak to a more diverse variety of damage types so it matters. In DS3 there's no planning ahead or making multiple different weapons until around 60-70% of the game because the game is so stingy with upgrade mats you can take equipment past +3 / +6 with.

>>152481756
>>152481595
Hoo boy. Responding to one post in a 4/5 post string of max character blogs/ awful opinions is autism.

And you're either a samefag, or one of you just desperately wants to fit in.

>>152482006
Anon no, you're attracting them

>>152482084
You know what's really bullshit? When the host keep summoning the SAME FUCKING PHANTOM.
Seriously. Put a cooldown on it or something, but don't let the host call the same phantom over and over again.

>>152482084
Stay mad shitter

>>152482045
Which game?

>>152482070
Announced on the 24th, apparently.

>>152482229
the game doesnt matter just tell me what build gave you the most fun

>>152481579
But hollows aren't Manus related at all. They are related to the flame, the curse only starts when it starts fading, presumably as a way to have it linked.
You don't have humanity which prevents hollowing, you sacrifice it to the bonfire to prevent physical hollowing. 3 rubs in your face hollowing happens independently to your mind and body, but 1 and 2 have proofs too

>>152479215
>The only good way to counter bloodring is to trade
>hosts will always come out top in attrition

>>152482006
So did walking dead

>DaS - Gargoyle helm
>DaS2 - Vengaarl's helm
>DaS3 - ????
What's the noob helm of choice this time around?
Has to be unique to the game, so Arty stuff is out.

>>152482528
get close to a ledge and kick him off trust me

if it fails bc out

>>152482613
fallen knight
with grass crest and darksword

>>152482613
FK, duh

>>152482613
fallen knight and irithil straight sword

>>152482613
fallen set

>>152482613
Fallen and Irithyl SS

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>>152482613
Go ahead, take a guess

>>152482373
Int/ Dex with Velka's Rapier/ buffed (raw early game) bandit knife/ Izalith Catalyst/ Bellowing Dragon ring was fun as fuck.

>>152482697
>>152482705
>>152482707
>>152482732
>>152482772
>>152482792
Fallen Knight Helm doesn't have the same distinct impression you get from the others, though, and it's always worn with the rest of the set.
Is there seriously no "oh wow, I'm throwing this thing on my head" equivalent in DaS3 except for that?

>>152482997
the entire set, not the helm

>>152482375
Hang the fuck on.

I though hollows were the decaying remains of Manus' kiddies?

>>152482997
fallen knight helm

>>152483121
What? Why in the fuck would you think that?

That is only technically true if you think he's the pygmy, but I really don't want to start this one discussion

Why are there barely any summon signs in ds3 on ps4 right now?

>>152482006
>DaS2 won goty
>Bloodborne didn't
They still haven't lived this down.

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>>152480815
>>152480852
>but why did you have to go this route?
because I'M GETTING HUNGRY, HOMBRE!

Seriously though, I'd like to finish my thoughts with :

>>152477842
>>152479579
>>152480563
>>152482116

I don't hate Dark Souls 3. In fact, I love it. I think that Dark Souls 3 had quality poured into it and I feel like they tried their absolute best to mix the best ideas they ever had with the series into a one solid package and for the most part they succeeded.
The audiovisual design is excellent, the gameplay feels fast/responsive and the enemy encounters are designed to be very challenging and I love a lot about the gameplay. It just feels like compared to DS1 and Demon's, there's very little room to grow as a player or do things "differently" without intentionally gimping yourself. Yeah, a fatrolling run is doable, but that's not the point, the point is that it feels like several mechanics that made PLANNING characters, planning runs and thinking ahead irrelevant because you're steadily floating through the controlled progression and your alternative choices are stupid choices (i.e if you don't pick up the coals whenever it's physically possible, you're fucking dumb whereas in DS1 you could skip ahead to get Embers before you were "supposed" to and grind upgrade mats.

DS3 is a better "action" game imo (besides the shittier level interconnectivity that's even made pretty much redundant to the abundance of bonfires) and lacks the "strategic" aspect of DS1 due to a bunch of mechanics getting streamlined in order to ensure that the general audience doesn't miss them.

But I'm not blaming From for this since of course they want to make sure that as many people as possible get a good experience out of Dark Souls 3 even if they only play through the game once so I understand that, but that inherently removes depth out of the game for people playing it more than just once.

>>152483374
ded gam low skill cap pvp

How do i greatshield/tank build dsg ?

>>152477842
>>152479579
>>152480563
>>152482116
Wow you're a real loser. I can't wait to play Bloodborne if this is all you PCshiters amount to. Thanks for the boring lecture, I guess.

>>152482997
t.fallen knight

Do you think the devs realized it would be the most popular, then added the piss trousers?

>>152483295
You mean he isn't?

Fuck, I hope the DLC comes out quickly and clear all this shit because the more we talk, the less I understand that game.

All I know is that I like DaS2's lore explanation of the hollowing process and that the Pontiff is a massive faggot who deserves to go to Hell.

>>152483550
Well if anyone is interested I'll be hanging out in front of the soul of cinder boss room looking for signs


pls no bully

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>le ebin fallen knight piss trouser meme
I'll be laughing over here with my light as fuck set that has stupidly high damage reduction

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>>152483618
>PCshiters
Started the series with Demon's on PS3, m8.
And as far as BB goes it will probably suit one and done players like you very well.

>>152483893
1. it doesn't even show the numbers for fallen knight
2. why the fuck would you not crop the images
3. why the fuck would you not use mugen

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>>152484072
Lucy dared me to do it manually and I did

>>152483121
Hollows are what Humans, Gods, Giants, etc. were before the discovery of the first flame. They return to that form if they have their soul used up or burnt out. The name "Hollow" is literal.

>>152482006
Because DaS2 pandered to casuals. Why does this surprise you?

>>152469890
I am never unfair in my assessment of DaS2, and what's wrong with Priscilla? If you just want me to use some different pics of her, I have others.

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>>152482997
>and it's always worn with the rest of the set.
There's no reason not to, because it looks good from behind due to the hood matching the FK set.

You can pretty much always wear full sets in DS3 because equip load doesn't matter for shit unless you carry Ultras and Greatshields and DS3 made mixing different helmets shittier than in DS1 and 2 so....

>>152484234
>Lucy
>ever openly admiting you follow a shitter's advice
(You)

>>152484234
>listening to "no parents" Luci
Have a You, you wanted it so badly.

>>152483795
No, he may or may not be. He's called two things, primordial man and father of the abyss. Now him creating the corrupted version of the dark is something that is a fact, but given how people loved to argue the semantics of what primordial might mean, that there are other primordial beings and that >japanese translations, so it's just something better not elaborated on.

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>>152484415
I was demonstrating the difference between wearing pyromancer's crown + rags versus much heavier armors by getting fucked up by enemies physically

Lucy kept shitposting and said it wasn't valid unless I kept track so I did and proved that Fallen Knight is more efficient than heavy armor sets because I hate him

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>>152484234
just...get your (you) and leave

>>152484594
Aren't the Dark and the Abyss the same thing? I thought the monsters you fought in Oolacille were human deformed by the dark?

Then again, DaS2 and Yuria talk of the dark as something more intimate, like your own humanity or something.

>>152484748
Dark is humanity
Abyss is dark gone wild, influenced by Manus

It's sort of like the Fire vs Chaos dichotomy.

>>152484938
Too complicated. Can't I just fist hollows with my fire-infused cestuses?

>>152484526
Citation? What happened to his parents?

>>152484748
The dark and abyss are only the same thing as much as the fire and chaos are, is that more clear?
The Abyss can be argued to be more violent and was created by Manus's humanity(his darkness) going wild and out of control fucking up Oolacile. The dark is just all that is related to humanity or the dark soul. In other words, the Abyss is simply part of the dark as a whole. As might be the deep or not.

>>152485262
Then who the fuck is Manus?

>>152485216
he admitted that his parents died in a car crash and he lives with his grandparents, this was around the time everyone laughed at him for being an idiot (see:onlyafag wotg video) and he wanted sympathy, now that only newfag pcucks are here nobody remembers all the stupid shit he has done so hes trying to pull the tough act for popularity on fucking 4chan kek

>>152485563
I told you up there. He's either an extremelly powerful human or the pygmy itself who was poked with a stick by Oolacile because they trusted a jew and then went mad, causing the birth of the abyss and their suffering

>>152485591
You forgot that she is also a girl and a cutie.

>>152485591
That's sad, if true.

>>152485713
>they trusted a jew
Kaathe did nothing wrong.

>>152485840
fuck off edgelord
does anyone suddenly realize this tripfag's name is lucifer and his gametag is fucking DesecratedFlame? like holy shit talk about fucking edgy mods can ban him for being an underage ban

>>152485591
>pulling the batman card
>on the internet
That's downright pathetic.

>>152486262
Don't bully the kid or he'll cry.

>>152485591
just saw the video, what was lucifer reply to being proved wrong?

>>152483893
What the red number supposed to represent?

Who's Lucy?

t. newfriend

>>152486414
Something about not being able to midroll trough WoG spam

Are we lucigger posting again?

>>152486414
i think he stfu'd for months and eventually came back to the threads, when people tried pointing the video back at him he was like "nah not true" and acted like a fag so people went back to ignoring him

>>152486463
The lettering at the top is the set and its weight

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>>152486589
Something we filter and mock for being bad at the game but acting like it's hot shit.

>>152486589
Autistic tripfag that occasionally spams the thread with unrelated webms and tries to cause threadwars for attention. Just add it to your filter

>>152486463
total weight of the set.

>>152486693
It is time again

I'll never be able to play Demon's Soul, but fuck the Storm King's theme is GODLIKE

>>152486659
you literally can't midroll through wog if they spam though

>lucifer has been offering god-tier advice to new players for more than 4 years
>always posts on-topic
>great game knowledge
>isn't a lorefag

B A S E D

>>152487001
C U C K

U

C

K

>PS4 Slim $299
Finally it's time for Bloodborne

>>152486726
>>152486883
Cool, I just thought I challenged you to divide the defense and absorption by the weight to find out which one was the best per unit.

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>>152487001
Hi Lucifer. Keep your trip so I can keep filtering you;