/egg/ - Engineering Games General - Formerly /svgg/

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>>152161643

First for outfucking rabbits

[post number]th for WARBROS #1

>>152161808
I didn't know rabbit team did that sort of thing. Inside the tank? All of them?

OP+n for returning spengies to its slavic glory

>>152162703
In case anyone wonders why this is popping up: >>152137338

Testing SE stable branch with a local ass roid map this Sunday, just join on me when you see me in game.

n+k*(750+rnd(0,20))th post for making dumb first posts

>>152162703
>3th

>>152163836
Fine, 3nd

>>152163929
>>152163836

4rd reply, 3st post, doe.

>>152162648
AAAAAAAAAGH

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I finally got around to playing this.

Pretty fun.

spess question

does all thrusters do block damage, or would something like a hydrogen thruster not cause that?

>>152165452
Hydros would do more damage because more thrust

>>152165452
>>152165763
>tfw no electromagnetic pulse drives

uuhhnhnfghn

>>152165452
Take note that the damage area, in both big and small are 1 block only, so the center block facing the thruster will take damage, the rest wont, or at least it was like that not so long ago, its better to hide the thrusters because they get damaged very easy.

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>>152165452
All unmodded thrusters do damage to all blocks.
Except for certain configuration

How does buoyancy and air work with full and half blocks? I'm really confused with the buoyancy and empty space values.

What I'm really asking is, is it worth making as much of the buoyant area from slopes instead of full blocks?

>>152166107
Make same science with hydros
Also, does that account for damping thrust being greater than regular thrust?

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>>152166510
That pic is with inertia dampeners.
Regular slopes work too.

It's an easy test but I don't have the game updated for a while now.

>>152166107
>You can actually redirect thruster wash, even though it's probably just Keencode™ fucking up

I'm doing it.

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>>152167114

>>152164783
Pretty autistic

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>>152169373
oh my

>>152169373
spess sex when

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>>152169373

>>152167114
I'm not surprised there's Farscape Rule 34, but I was surprised it was Moya.
>B-be gentle, Marauder-san.

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>>152169373

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I made a cheap stealth bote, it costs around 14k

It goes up to 22 m/s, it's armed with 12x 8 long radar guided missiles, the launcher is flush with the hull once retracted. It also have shields set to reflect at strenght 3 that cover all the hull. Finally it has 8k materials to convert into ammo and 40k fuel with a mid-high efficency engine (around 330 ppf). The only thing that it doesn't have is a countermeasure system for missiles but with all the stealthiness it has i don't think it really needs one.

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>>152173467

Last time I played SpEngies was before the planets update. Has anything been significantly changed on gameplay? Is there something like FtD's campaigns?

>>152173467
>>152173978
>the launcher is flush with the hull once retracted.
This is awesome, didn't even think of the possibility, but I understand it now that you've done it.

>>152173467
>>152173978
Looks sexy. Well done.

Does making things flesh like that actually do anything? I don't get how stealth works.

>>152174825
Due to Nick being a lazy fuck, spinblocks and turrets count for detection as if they were completely exposed. It's actually godawful for stealth.

Are "stealthy" designs actually stealthy or are they just aesthetics?

>>152175136
Why not both?

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Any way to improve this so it's not a complete mess? I have no idea how to use chain signals

>>152175129
>>152175129
Hopefully he's gonna fix it, also at the moment the campaign ships are completely blind if you play with proper detection on

>>152175136
Nick is going to unify stealth and aesthetics in one single thing so you don't need to worry about it anymore.

>>152175728
>implying he won't just spend a lot more time adding false optimization chalenges.

The whole advanced cannons and crams is bullshit fuckery. There aren't any choices to be made it's just picking what ammo you want and then playing shitty tetris until it works correctly.

spengies update, anyone want to guess what it was?

:^)

>>152176132
Bug fixes and nothing else.

>>152176132
Bug additions and nothing else.

>>152176132
nothing and nothing else

Thoughts on empyrion vs space engineers?

>>152177826
spengs if you want to build complex shit
empy if you want good gameplay with simpler ships

>>152177826
Neither. They both are shit in their own way.

>>152178029
>>152178072
ty
how about the difference between the survival aspects? as in immersion and shit like that? I have no talent or enough autism to spend a week building massive stuff.

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>Running out of uranium after exhausting my current mine
>Find a new one, set my carrier up about 500~ off the surface
>Undock my miner
>Carrier immediately falls out of the air and clangs through the ground
>My miner's battery was the only thing charged and was keeping the carrier up alone

Fucking RIP

>>152178260
Empyrion.

The Rooty Tooty is ass, though.

>>152178406
Can I make stuff like this on empyrion? I remember SE had some awesome complexity like sub-vehicles and mining from ships and stuff.

Empyrion seems like the game NMS should have been tho

>>152178468
>Rooty Tooty
wat

>>152179803
Point and Shooty.

>>152180371
the gunplay is shit? Or just not as good as SE?

>>152180870
Let's just say your turrets could decide to try and shoot at mobs behind walls.

>>152180994
I have a nice rig at home but could I play empyrion on my laptop at work? It has that dual Intel / AMD thing, i7 and 16gb RAM.

>>152181254
I personally don't know about that, perhaps someone else does.

>>152181254
I'm getting 25-30 fps on a GF 760 on medium settings. You gonna need a good laptop.

>>152180994
Spergies had that problem for a short time, ships would put holes through themselves.

>>152182316
>a short time
You mean every week, between the thursday update and the monday patch?

Has Empyrion still FPS problems in multiplayer when flying capital vessels/multiple ships?

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>>152175709
This intersection might give you a general idea how to use Chain Signals easily.
You place Normal Signals on EXITS, and you place Chain Signals on EVERYTHING ELSE.
(that's for crossings, stations, intersections etc. You ofc still use normal signals for long straight stretches).

This crossing lets 1-4 trains to pass through the intersection at the same time without having to wait for intersection to clear, or crashing into each other.
Ofc, I am using a one-way train system, from what I see, you have train engines on both ends, so you might have to troubleshoot your stuff if you see problems.

We need a retard-proof rail signals guide for Factorio.

un-ded

In FtD how do i make 2 ships fight eachother in the design mode? Or even multiple ships and planes?

>>152187245
AI>Enemy Simulator? I think at least, haven't tried it.

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>>152187585
jesus im so helpless and retarded

>>152187701
It's okay, it's just a side effect of vaccination

>>152187701
Live and learn.

>>152178468
That may be, but it's still better than spengies in that aspect.

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here's my bad attempt at a stealth ship

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRhwAB39rOw

popular youtuber mentions space engineers

prepare for newfags

Are small ships even viable in FtD?
No matter where I put the ammo, the ship blows up usually from the first hit since it's too close to the outer layer.

>>152190407
Maybe he zoomed all the way in in the first pic


>>152190560
>Are small ships even viable in FtD?
Only in massive numbers

>>152189928
Nothing can save us from the /ded/.

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>>152190407
Grower not a shower

Tiny benis turns into megabenis

>>152191030
Entropy is a concept we dead men are more than familiar with, for as with all things, the thread, too, will reach its' end.

>>152190407
How do you not know that there's two types of dicks?

What are you, some kind of dickless faggot?

Is it possible to reverse a propeller using complex controls? I don't get how to do it.

I have, for turning purposes, 4 propellers on front left, front right, back left, back right... and I want to activate them all at once for faster turning, but appropriately when considering whether it's turning left or right.

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eg

>>152166510
You can turn on the debug draw and it will show the damage ball.
As long as you don't put anything in that line you'll be fine.

>>152189108
Here's mine

>>152192004
So you could theoretically make borg cubes with nil thrusters outside.

speaking of which

why do we not have borg cube constructions that can connect to one another seamlessly at a 1:1 rate

this is the best idea.

>>152192090
Dude nice stealth ship. Love what you did with the cannons.

>>152192391
All you would have to do is make maglocks around the outer doors, and some connectors to share the inventories, no?
tubes won't merge with merge blocks, right?

>>152192589
Cannons? I thought those were missile tubes

>>152192090
Nice, i bet you took inspiration from those posted in those threads some months back when everyone was posting stealth ships and ships with cloaking device. Like this one

>>152192968
Double stealth'd.

>>152187245
>>152187585
The simplest way is to spawn them in on different teams. Press x, then select what team they're on (upper right as I recall, might not be right).

Same deal with loading ships. Anything not on the same team will fight, just change what team the vehicles are on and watch them go at it.

>>152190998
>>152191237
>>152191402
I can guarantee 100% I have more experience with cocks than you.

Can we not talk about cocks (unless it's /egg/ related)

>>152194510
1. Be a grill
2. Be not wider than them but anything below that is probably fine
3. Find a way to trick them into leaving their home, or just wait for them to venture out to buy food or go to work and ambush them
4. Present shimapan

Basically foolproof

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is Space Engineers good yet? is the multiplayer 100% playable yet? did they fix the netcode

>>152194902
No, no, and no.

>>152191623
Green is go, red is reverse

Also, you can use ACB's. For steering you'll want 3, 1 setting speed to 0 every second and 1 activated by turn controls. Otherwise tapping the turn button will lead to continuous turns

>>152194847
>3. Find a way to trick them into leaving their home, or just wait for them to venture out to buy food or go to work and ambush them

kek, that's the really hard thing to do

I haven't got out of home since the 1st of June

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>>152194960

>>152194962
Jesus Christ I didn't expect it to be so... complex. I did set up the controls on the propellers (red/green) but now I have to press forward all the time to go forward and obviously I need something else, probably that ACB. Goddamnit.

>>152195184
Shit's not actually all that hard and gives a substantial performance boost. Just remember to set the affect radius low enough that it doesn't change everything on the bewt

>>152195184
(>>152195385 here)
You're right, you only need to do paired ACBs for main propulsion. Steering should take care of itself

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Fuck I haven't touched this game in ages. Why is the vanilla speedcap STILL so goddamned low? Who the fuck is behind the decision 107m/s is anywhere near a decent speed for space travel?

I need some opinions on this
http://store.steampowered.com/app/383120/


I'm thinking about getting it since space engies always leaves a bad taste on my mouth.

>>152195764
>50%
why are you even asking

>>152195749
The same people who decided it was a good target for the physics system to not shit itself doing. It's literally because the game starts shitting itself above those speeds

>>152195764
cool in singleplayer, lots of fun in multiplayer

combat is kinda shit but it's ultra comfy once you get into space and start exploring and eradicating ayy lmao's

we need to find a new server for /egg/ tho

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FAST /EGG/S POST YOUR CREATIONS
from crap mechanics ofcourse

>>152195749
>>152195956
No kidding, anything connected to a piston just disables at 95.1m/s+

I tried flying around with three connected to one another and the other two just detached casually and floated away.

Of course, it would be simple to mitigate this if the game didn't render physics for each individual block at high travel speeds, instead calling upon a collective 'cube' hitbox and rendering it all a single entity, but noooooooooo.

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>>152195749
>Who the fuck is behind the decision 107m/s

Wait a moment...

>>152196569
Holy shit.

>>152195537
>>152194962
This is very complicated, how do I set it up so that forward/backward just stays at whatever level it is when I stop pressing the button.

>>152195749
>>152195749
I imagine the devs wanted it to take a long period of time to reach planets forcing you to make stops at astroids to make bases and such.

Plus landed on planets with the modded speed thing is fucking bonkers m8 you need like 20 thrusters to slow that shit down
>>152196198
>>152195898

Cool, just purchased. Let me know when you guys find a server

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>>152196569

>>152196258
but i don't play scrap mechanics

>>152196962
That's because at the high speeds needed for effective long-distance travel, you need to plan your stops as well as your go's

>>152196569
>>152196963
>ayyluminati confirmed
Holy fuck, this explains the jump to dx11

>>152196941
ACBs. Just messing around with that stuff is the best way to learn, and half the time you'll either come up with a new and better way to do it or have an idea about some related system

>>152196258
r8 my stealth truck I built

>>152197298
>jump
>implying DX10 was even anything
How many DX10 cards even got made? Couldn't have been more than one, two generations tops and even then two sounds high. Even the Raedeon 5XXX series was DX11.

>>152197423
I mean Spengoe changing formats during development, not necessarily skipping 10

>>152194847
I haven't gone more than 4 miles in the past month

It would have been less than 1 if I didn't get addicted to the stupid pokemon go thing

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So I remember my biggest problem with FtD was the devs adding ridiculously complex mechanics that were horrendously overpowered against players that didn't have a masters degree in calculus

has this changed?

>>152197625
>changing formats
You mean us screaming our heads off for BLAAANIDS WHEEEEN

>>152197834
planets were a mistake.

>>152197317
Not seeing anything that would make it work like the ship's wheel normally works. It only has "propulsion components: set drive fraction" but in that case I'd have to divide the drive into shitloads of ACBs.

>>152197834
I see the joke went right over your head

>>152197735
He never did that. But yes, he's been cutting shit down to 'put a block here and you get this effect'.

So yes, he's catering to your stupid ass now. You can't even make detection equipment scale. It's seriously pissing off everyone here that cares about the game.

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>>152196569

>>152197989
Multiple detectors increases detection accuracy since the error is random and it takes the lowest error.

Still just dumb spammery.

>trying to prep a few vanilla shits for WB test
>want comfy smallship cargo truck

>needs to become exponentially larger to work in both space and atmosphere
FUCK
I remember why I hated vanilla

>>152197902
Keep in mind I haven't played in almost a month, try shit out before you just take my word for it. IIRC forwards/backwards needs ACBs, while left/right doesn't

>>152198326
Yeah but you can't build EWAR platforms or EWAC planes that actually detect beyond fighter avionics range. It all stays the same range. Even the old system worked better for such things.

>>152198472
Solution: have two ships that can merge together and separate depending on the requirements

>>152197989
>So yes, he's catering to your stupid ass now
Apologies that I didn't want to learn university level calculus in order to make autocannons capable of dealing with WF ships.

>>152198676
You can, there's just no damn point because detection ranges far outstrip engagement ranges.

>>152196429
How does speed calculation work? What happens if you stack a ton of gyros to a giant arm and rotate it? Its speed as reported by game is zero, but blocks at ends will move really fucking fast. What if pistons are there at the ends? Is that how you summon Him?

>>152198865
Then play a game made for retards like space engineers instead and leave FtD for those who want to put in the effort instead of dragging it down to your level.

>>152198865
Fuck off physician.

>Cyberhounds

I wish there were like, nests for them and spiders

Maybe a junked ship or something

>>152198897
I have and always will find it incredibly disappointing that I can't engage a fleet from 30km.

>>152198865
>Not being a good Ork and just adding moh dakka until the enemy dies.

>>152199004
>physician.
gets me errytime

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>>152198865
but calculus is fun
best math

>>152198981
My only solace is the devs wouldn't listen to your opinions and kill the games playability even further.

>>152199161
The hell would you even shoot? You'd need absolutely absurd projectile velocity to have a snowball's chance in hell of hitting, inanely long laser barrels, or torpedoes with half a dozen regulators and more fuel than your ship.

How quickly do vanilla hydro thrusters eat fuel?
it's made from Ice, right?
If I fill a large cargo with ice, stick four o2 generators on it, and have maybe two hydrogen tanks, will that be sufficient for a primarily hydrogen truck?

Either way this is going to be way bigger than I wanted it to be.

>>152199843
Hydros dont last much, almost nothing.
You will need a shit load of tanks and generators to keep the thing afloat and do tank refills in mid air.

WHATS THE BEST ENGINEER GAME FUCK

>>152200039
shitfuck
why are hydros so useless?
Are they really exclusively intended for the transfer from atmo to space?

>>152199808
Missiles and aircraft. I'd like to be able to have frontline bases that deploy their own units on their own upon detection. I still require unit-to-unit Lua communication to make it work though. Otherwise you'd completely be able to just throw down airbases with fighters and a garrison and it'd hold the place by itself while you focus elsewhere.

But we can't really do that.

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>>152200112
we've got /ded/, /ded/, and more /ded/
take you're pick
they're all autistic

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NIIIIIIIIIIIIICK

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>>152200540

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SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT

>>152200456
How in the world do you get missiles out to 30 klicks?

anyone tried farlight explorers? its like a factorio meets empyrion
EARLY ACCES

>>152200204
Better combine ION and atmospheric.

And it was way WAY worse when they came up.
The tank lasted like 5 seconds with 1 thruster.
Then they "extend" the tank capacity, but its still shit, and not even close of what the tank can hold in liquid form.

>>152200489
DED DOESNT TELL ME SHIT TELL ME THE BEST DED ENGINEER GAME

>>152200937
Oh god it's gone rogue
CLANG has called to it and it is rising against us
The great CLANG war is upon us

>>152200960
Fuel
Fuel
Fuel
Fuel
Fuel
and
Fuel

Also by making it out of blocks instead of actual missile parts

>>152201125
spengies a few years ago before KEEN started really channeling CLANG
factorio is really there as a game, all the mechanics are there, there's a framework for everything, it's logistics engineering however
algodoo if you're jaquet droz
besiege if you want to weaponize CLANG

>>152201281
I just wanted to make a helicopter

s-so I stacked two engines to turn a few blocks each at max speed

a-a-and I wanted to revise the model so I accidentally deleted the seat first

>>152201339
OKAY THANKS

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>the old, ded serb where the admin cucked us by resetting the worlds is now not ded, and is getting 10+ members where when we were playing it barely broke 4

JUST

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THIS IS FINE

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That poor drone

The best part is, all I did was snipe out the engines, the hounds did all that damage

>>152201107
Fuck. I guess I'll just build it with ions and light atmo, build proprietary cargo pods with light lift assistance, and just hope it's powerful enough to do the job

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>>152202154
Doesn't look fine from here senpai.
Or was that the joke

>>152197298
>dx11
>11
>9/11

>>152198512
>>Keep in mind I haven't played in almost a month, try shit out before you just take my word for it. IIRC forwards/backwards needs ACBs, while left/right doesn't
I have in fact managed to do it with the Drive Maintainer block, except there are two problems now:

a) complex controller doesn't show controls at all (why?!)
b) it's impossible to completely stop the boat by cutting all thrust like it was with FG or whatever on the wheel
c) why am I even using a complex controller instead of a ship wheel

>>152201323
At that point it's more like a kamikaze drone.

>>152202925
What the fuck do you think a missile even is

>>152202718
MOTHER OF GOD

>>152200540
DELETE THIS

>>152203020
a kamikaze drone with more boom booms

>>152203170
We'll just make more boom booms. Who's up to try and replicate BrahMOS?

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>>152202538
I'M OKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

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>>152203293
>ramjet missiles
MUH DICK

>>152198865
But calculus is as easy as using a screwdriver after you learn it. Engineering math is just a tool. Real math is spooky

>>152203020
Drones can loiter on air you retard.

>>152204214
So can missiles.

>>152202740
Complex controller lets you do a lot more. If you just want to be able to turn left and right and forwards and back, then go with the regular controls.

Regarding your "full stop" problem, I usually have buttons dedicated to reverse, full stop, full speed and, in some cases, flank speed. Those would use ACBs to change water drive to -1 or 1 or whatever, and flank speed usually uses dedi helis to lift my prow out of the water for another few m/s at the cost of stability and ability to turn.

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>>152202398

>takes 6 small atmos to even hold a large cargo container airborne
>takes 8 small reactors

Fuck, when did this game get logistics like this.

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I'M NOT OKAY
I AM NOT OKAY

>>152204396
>Complex controller lets you do a lot more. If you just want to be able to turn left and right and forwards and back, then go with the regular controls.
I just couldn't fit the ship wheel into my tiny little pilot cabin.

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RED ALERT
MAYDAY
DEFCON
CQD
SOS
HELP

>>152204958
Just put it sideways man, or in the floor. You can always squeeze it in somewhere

>>152205146
Y̶̡̺̞̮̜͈̬̝̻̗̝̥ͭ̒̐̍̄̈͐̔̈ͩ̇ͩ̀ͯ̑̈́͑̚̚O̢̙̝̜̬̣͈ͯ̍̐̑͐ͯͫ̕͟U͆̑͛̽̈́ͩ͊̅̆̓̅̀҉̢̝̩̫̼̯̫̹̞͚̀ ̸̧͂̎̓̈́̍ͣ̎ͦ̚͘͜͏͍̳̠̳ͅT̢͇̱̝̞̲͔̟̦̩̮̜̃͗ͩ̌̆͛Ḩ̠̭͈͈͔̻̟̙̦̇̾̾̆̃̏̔̀͢͞O̓̍ͭͨ̈́̎̾̔ͯ̉ͩ̄ͯͦ͐̌̋̔́͏̴͈̗̞̼͉͙̜̤̠̙̠̭̙̺̭̙U̧̡̨̩̖̗͚̯̞̪̦̮͕͕ͧ͋͌̽̉ͯͮ͊͛̑ͬ̋͑͐̎G̷̀̂̄ͧ̾ͬͦ͊ͤͮ̎͂̓͌͐̈́ͪ҉̷̼̭̲͙ͅH̡̨͓̹̬̭̞̲̓͑̔ͭ̎ͮ́̔̆ͧ̓̍͗́̚͡T̸̨̙͉̝̼̭͉͚̮͔͚̗̠ͮ̊̄͊͐̐̒̾ͣ̇̑̉͑ ̵̇̑ͧͤͫͤ͒̀̔̈́ͩ͋̅̒͐̂̇ͨ҉̮͎̮͙̭̺̞̙̟͖̩̱͙̣̯͎Yͦͩ̈́̾ͣ͛̊̔̃̔̀̚҉̶̴̡̺̳̗̘̝̱͓̫̪̠͚̗͖̘̝̥Ọ̠̙͕͒͑͌ͪͦ̋͗ͯ̄ͧͦ͑͊̄ͤ͢Ū̸̴͕̗͎̻̟̰̹̖̠̜̳̜͉̤ͩͭ̌̓̔ͨ̅̉ͮ̅͌͆͐̓͗͊ͧ̽ ̵̴̼̥̭͇̤̲̏̄̂̌ͮ̉̓̈́̃͋̕͞Ć͎̹̹̟̬̮͖͚̏̾̊͐ͬ̓͑͢͢͝O̴̯̞͉̜̥̓̏̌̒ͭ̏͞Ủ̜̗̱̞̳͉̹̲̊̔̅̿͊̓̌ͯͪ͑͘͟͠L̠̙̙̲̲̥̫̩̱̦̄̂̔ͫ̉̐͂̑ͮ͐ͯ̂̂͋̌͢͞D̨̯͕̳̳̤̻̠͓͚̙͖̤̦̫ͤͫ͛̿̌̿̚͢͝ ̢̢̦͖̣̝̱̟̪ͤ̃̓ͤ̒́ͅH̴̨̠̬̥͕̙͎̖͙̠̮̜̰͍̱̝̥̞ͨͤ̑ͦ̽̿ͭ̉̊̂͊̋̅͆ͣ̅͜͜͝ͅI̶̡͙͙̦͇͓͉ͭͭ̆̔̏̀̃̑̆ͨ́̇́͘̕D̵̊͆ͮͨ͗ͦ̀͏̧̫̠͔͕̖̫̪̙̱͇͎̻̖͜͞E̷̴̝̟̩̞͍͈̙͔͍̞̬̤̻͙̖̣͐̓̿ͩͮ̄̎ͣ͐ͭ̔̽ͤ̚͡͠ͅ ̴͙̞͖͈̳̪̠̝ͤ͋̈̊̈́̓̏̎̔̅́́̚͘͠F̛̳͕̭̋̽̑̈̅͐̌̂̒̉͋̇͌̄̉̀͝ͅͅR̉ͣ͋̃ͮ͆̍̉̄̋͆̎̓͛ͭ̑̆҉̢̧̛̲̬͖̖̬͉̫̟̬̺̭̺ͅOͯ̅͆ͫͤ̔ͭ̐͠͏̢͍͇͕̳M̴̡̢͚̗̱̙͓̹̠͙̲͖͉̘̬̖̯̜͖͔̓̓ͧ̈̅ͫ̒̑̍̓̋̀̔ͩͨ̾ͦ ̈ͧ̚͏̧̮͎͈̣̗̟͙M̶̵̶͚̻̰͈͓̞̯̩̰̗̯̬̼̝͈̬̾̑̒͊̉͊ͮ̃͂ͫͨ̑͗ͩ͛͢͞E̵͕̳̦̗̰͇̺̜̋̈͋́͒̍̑ͤ͊̎̈͂̊̎͡͞ ̡̙̠̠̯̥̘͓͇̟̫̲̇̑͗ͣͦ̏ͨͣͦͧͨ̕M̵̢̨͙̙͓̥̬̗̩̭̜̖̖̲̗͓̽̌͊̔̂̏ͩͧ̀̄͒O̘͍͉̼̬̝͓̘̖̣ͧ̓̈̈́̈̊͠R̷̢̝̝̞̪̥̱͍̼̈́͐̈̀̉̑̿̎ͨͫ̾ͯ̈ͣ̀̕͟T͉̯͔̭̣̲̱̞͉̂̀͂̿̏̔̄ͫ̓̽̾̌͊͂͘A̶̵̷̧̤͉̬͍ͣ̉ͮͮ͛ͅL͚͕̘̦͋̑̍̄ͣ̆̆͂ͣ͢

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>>152205387
Who said I was hiding?

that's enough caps for now, but seriously, the ragdolls make half the game.

>>152169373
Is that gonna be an elevator?

>>152206209
That webm is old, it hails from the days before FtD

>>152206209
That's an old as fug webm from the itroduction of wheels

>>152205323
I mean aesthetically, it was just ugly.

>>152206442
Put it underneath the floor, close enough to use but out of sight

>>152206526
But! My floor is 1 block high.

>>152207029
Underneath. Like below, not flush with

How do you fix the default Wanderlust design in FtD?
The ship has anti-missile lasers, they work and they fire, but I have never ever seen them successfully shooting down a missile. They point at it with blue laser lights, and the missile does not die even after 2-3 seconds of continuous firing.

>>152208353
hasn't laser design calculations changed or something

>>152208353
You increase the output of the laser generator.

>>152207796
But! Underneath is only air and water!

It's ok, I think it looks nice and I fixed the complex controls bullshit now.

However, can someone please advise me as to what kind of space I'll be needing for the AI/mainframe/cards and shit? It's just a tiny boat with missiles and a cannon.

Also, what kind of detection equipment will I need for it? Shields? Anything else? I'm running out of space fast.

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Is it possible to build a medium sized battle cruiser with small blocks on Space Engineers without the performancd going to shit?

Picture related.

>>152210228
the performance will go to shit if you do nothing but watch the dogs eat you in spengies

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>>152210228
>on space engineers without the performance going to shit
I don't even need to think about your post to say no to that

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>>152204557
FUCK I WAS WRONG

FOR A x10 GAME IT TAKES E L E V E N FUCKING LARGE ATMOS TO EVEN MOVE A FULL LARGE CARGO FULL OF U

>FtD has extensive tutorials showing you how to build a good ship
>the ship that the tutorials tell you to build is probably the single worst designed ship in the entire game, with any random enemy ship being better in almost every aspect
>only 1 super vulnerable CRAM gun with exposed parts, if it takes a single hit it's instant lose since you have no other weapons
>missiles completely unreliable being vertical launch IR seekers, most of the time they don't even pick up any enemy ships
>no short range weapons at all, you will lose against the broadside of Middle Ages cannons every time
Fucking hell. Took me days to understand all the things wrong with this ship.

>>152211026
>>only 1 super vulnerable CRAM gun with exposed parts, if it takes a single hit it's instant lose since you have no other weapons
Which brings me to my next question, HOW DO I PROTECT MY TURRET. Can I put a shield on it or something.

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>>152203446
>Poo-in-Loo x Vodka missile

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>>152210228
No, but interiors in big blocks are not that bad, also you can merge both big and small.
But...
>good framerate

>>152211180
I've seen some designs where most of the turret was under the hull, with only the firing piece and barrel above. You can also build normal blocks on the turret for armor, like metal blocks. Or use energy shields.

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>>152210768
>game is a fuckall grind for resources in anything other than 10x inventory
>ships have to have four as much thrust as they have storage

No, fuck this

PLANETS WERE A MISTAKE

>>152210768
GET AERO
BUILD PLEN

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>>152211725

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>>152211725
>Community edition

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>>152211725
Ended up not liking it there, moved it to advanced settings. Doesn't break the layout now.

Also added data validation so you don't load in with max speed set to 0.

>>152211725
>>152213526
So uh
what's this

>>152213623
Lets you set max speed on a save without modding. Means you can use whatever skybox you want at whatever max speeds you want without having to hack it.

>>152213764
I meant more in general, what's this whole thing for, a community made version of spengies, or...?

>>152214043
IT'S NOT HARD

>>152204958
Just put a Vehicle Controller in there then. The controls are in a slightly different place but it's much the same and you keep the handy chart. Q toggles Air and Sea controls, if you fuck up and see a bunch of jet plane icons.

>>152214102
At least there's no loss this time

>>152213976
You know how Skyrim and Fallout 3 - 4 have community patchsets?

This is going to be kinda like that. I have 2 releases out already, next one is going to have the changes listed under "IN DEVELOPMENT":

https://github.com/N3X15/SpaceEngineers-CE/wiki/Change-log

>>152212436
Jesus Christ I haven't gone there since it started, what the fuck is going on here. I mean it was supposed to be a parody but then the autism reached some kind of critical mass and just kept growing, and now we have shit like this
>>>/s4s/4687625

>>152214405
From what I've heard they're high as fuck constantly. Or something.
Only serious discussion I've seen them have was them trying to solve one of those joke math problems that shows up in anime.
It was hilarious.

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>>152214235

>>152210228
I never really liked the Defiant desu

I prefer the larger ships like the Sovereign class

>>152214602
Not lossy enough

>>152214405
That has a source, dude.

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did you know there's one general deder than /egg/?

eve online general

never forget

>>152214758
>massive war going on involving the goon empire again as tons of other shits

>4chan's community dead as all fucking hell as per the norm
Why can't we fucking do anything right
The only games we've ever owned are habbo and robokek, the goons control the rest.

>>152212436
There's this part of the internet that I don't understand at all, for example those people who are totally into completely retarded meme comics or games like Homestuck or Undertale, or who do this board-related shit, there was a lot of stuff like that on /co/ where they invented board mascots and roleplayed them and whatever the fuck.

I think it's either middle school kids or women or some shit, but it's incredibly autistic, it's not a brand of insanity I understand (like I would understand furries jerking off to dragons with 12 tits or whatever).

Is tumblr to blame for this? They all seem to talk like retards.

>>152214758
Want an even dedder one?


Star Wars Galaxies

The Star Wars general got absorbed into the Bioware RPG general because TOR was the only thing being talked about

>>152214606
Sovereign class ships are way to big. I like medium sized starships with great maneuverability. Like the Defiant and the Voyager.

It always feels to me that ships with the long 'tails', those things that connect the rest of the ship with the nacelles, as too vulnerable. The J.J. Abrams trek showed that in that third movie.

>>152214898
because we don't play shit games like EVE

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>>152214949
So clang gave us the power to live ded forever, instead of die like a mortal.

PRAISE CLANG.

>>152214917
You seem to have a tenuous at best grasp upon reality. Tumblr aint got shit to do with [s4s]. [s4s] is an isolated anomaly. It's that one pit in 4chan that people who don't go there never actually ever hear or learn about and nobody who goes to 4chan knows how it fucking works except the unintelligible wizards who dwell there.

I have no fucking clue what they're about. The autism behind undermeme is easily discernible and quite mundane.

>>152211725
>120
I thought I was the only one. What is the deal with the 120 fps cap in Spengies?

>>152215059
Go look up the Enterprise-J for me

Get ready to cringe
Those nacelles look like they'd fall off if someone sneezed in Engineering

>>152215059
The defiant is bullshit. It maneuvers like a fighter while having massive firepower.
Don't make the mary sue spaceship

>>152215091
If it's so shit then why the fuck does every /egg/ game every try desperately to replicate the economic model and market system?

>>152214249
So is SE development branch stable? I'm wondering if I should merge in Keen's latest github code or not. That would be the final step before the next release.

>>152215161
>>I have no fucking clue what they're about.
>several million layers of irony
>bit of retardation
>lots of drugs, they're great for finding black market stuff if you ask right
>probably severe depression
>memes

>>152215297
>EVE invented auction houses and buy low sell high

>>152215302
No, they just fucking broke it again.

>>152215401
Oh. What's broken, by chance?

>>152214249
Is that comunity edition playable like the regular game?
or you need visual and all that stuff?

>>152215369
EVE did invent the fact every item on the market was made by a player.

>>152215435
Now its copypaste with rotors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj2iSyu5GKs

just uploaded this... like 5 minutes after the patch was released and installed on my computer.

In record time submted to their shit forums.

>>152214949
>Star Wars Galaxies
Does SWGEmu finally have JTL?

I had such a crazy reverse engineered generator or whatever it was in JTL, it had some incredible stats that made it possible to have ludicrously OP weapons in the medium Hutt fighter.

>>152215446
You just use the installer.

>>152215585
Not yet, sadly

I imagine when JTL is released hype will come back to it

That's all I'm waiting for, personally

>>152215446
I finished up an installer last week.

However, it requires whatever development version of SE it was originally built against. It does hash checks so that keen doesn't bitch at me about allowing pirates. I can re-run the build so that it overwrites whatever this week's horror story is, but you wouldn't get all the new shit.

>>152215574
oh w-
OH WOW WHAT? WHAT??

>>152215667
Well damn.

Do you know what's up with the SWG NGE leaked code emulators? I remember SWG Reborn but it died because the "developers" behind it were literally retarded high school kids who had a shitload of personal drama and no skills at all, but it worked.

I'd be playing SWGEmu 24/7 if it had JTL and a proper bounty implementation (ground/space).

I don't get why these fuckers aren't faster, it's the only fucking MMO server emulator that no one will ever try to take down.

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>>152215728
>comunity edition
>keen is on your ass because its not free or open source

I really want to put a bomb in that place, holy fuck if i was in yurop.

Sorry if im retarded, but i cant find the link for the installer in the github page.

>>152215819
Yea, I was like
>lets see the exploding rates of my fighter, so far it explodes 7 out of 10 times when lock-unlock
>paste the shit
>falls apart like i press detach in every rotor
>go back to stable
>the blueprint is fucked there also
>had to find another lone ship in the world with the rotors unlocked to redo the blueprint

Shit is fucked beyond repair, this is why i pirated the version 132.

>>152216153
https://github.com/N3X15/SpaceEngineers-CE/releases

Only works against development branch on Steam. Also does hash checks, so if you pirated it, you're going to be in for pain.

(Also a bug I noticed today in the installer: you may have to fuck around with the capitalization of SteamApps\Common when setting the SECE install directory. I fixed that today)

>>152216390
I have both, legit and that specific pirated version because it works best for me.
I guess i have to set the steam to dev then.
I have separated appdata foldiers for each one, will make another one for this one.

>>152215232
It make sense in-universe though. Other Starfleet vessels carry 20 different science labs, enough crew quarters for everybody to bring the family along, day cares, holosuites, etc. Even carrying that extra mass and energy drain they could go toe to toe with the best everyone else had to throw at them. Cut away all the dead weight and you have a kickass little hornet of a ship.

>>152216573
You can set it via -appdata command line option, if you want.

I just finished cooking a fresh build of 01_148_001 with the new features, but made to overwrite 01_149_002. Uploading shortly.

>>152214898
>>Why can't we fucking do anything right
>4chan murdering reddit in Tribes
>Warbros assraping everything in Warframe
>Warbros leading the industry in Space Engineers before the game shat itself
>the 4chin cup
>GTAO unleashing coordinated bullying on shitters daily

4chin is actually far more organized than anyone thinks

>>152215980
Because they're basically redoing it from scratch because pre CU stuff is lost to time

JTL was never built with pre-CU in mind, either, so they basically need to make it from the ground up

>>152216784
Just not in the one thing I wish it was. I'd love to help out with logistics, and you guys would all get to be literal space truckers within 4chins territory like you've always wanted.

>>152216390
>>152216703
Does the bug give a fail in file integtity check?
if not my install is actually fucked.

>>152217253
Yep.

NEW SECE RELEASE OUT:

https://github.com/N3X15/SpaceEngineers-CE/releases/tag/v01_148_001-o-01_149_002

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>>152194847
>2. Be not wider than them but anything below that is probably fine
I moved to America and I'm grossly underweight, I've yet to see a girl skinnier than I
>3. Find a way to trick them into leaving their home, or just wait for them to venture out to buy food or go to work and ambush them
I just made my first food expedition in 5 months, unlikely
>4. Present shimapan
Hot chick at work has been all over me since she got there, all I can think/say is "Sorry, I have work to do"

Good luck ladies.
>>152216153
Can I get a closer view of the mechanism? I know people don't like to hear claims of clang-avoidance, but I've yet to have issues with a two rotor+marge block system. I am using hinges for what it's worth.

>>152216932
>JTL was never built with pre-CU in mind, either,

But JTL was Publish 11, CU was publish 15, and there's nothing CU-related in space.

If you confused it with the NGE, which actually changed professions so JTL was affected a little bit, NGE was publish 25.

I was playing pre-CU JTL for at least half a year 10 years ago.

In any case, they should be goddamn faster, especially since JTL was virtually unchanged in most things that matter in CU/NGE and the entire leaked server code for post-NGE JTL is available now.

The most tragic thing is how many additions to the base game were made after NGE, they were adding so many features right until the game shut down, those storyteller RP NPCs, and fucking ATMOSPHERIC GODDAMN FLIGHT, they added that a month or two before the game was shut down.

>>152215232
>Implying.
Look at modern tanks, our tanks have improved on every possible aspect of their design.
They're tougher, faster, hit harder with better ammunition, are extremely accurate, etc etc etc. The Defiant is actually deficient as a military vehicle because it's traded all of its defense for offensive capability and maneuverability. If any hostile vessel (like a Borg cube, perhaps?) can survive the first pass, the defiant is shit out of luck because it can't take punches it can only give them.

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>>152217361
Its a way arround to be small and dont take too much space.
The inner ones rotate 90° to go vertical-horizontal
and the exterior ones rotate 180° to switch between ION or atmospheric.

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>>152217351
>mfw complementary dark shader

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>>152217983
Yeah, that seems a bit too complex. Why not just use one rotor to do it? That alone should save the trouble.

Or do what I do, and use merge blocks? There are 1x1x1 merge blocks on the workshop that can make for compact moving contraptions.

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>>152218290
It's togglable.

What the hell does a radiator do on an engine? I can't tell the difference no matter where I put it.

Also, do I need turbo/hyperchargers? And is it possible to connect them to external exhaust pipes?

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>>152218394
Yea, but i love how it make it spooky again, almost forgot how it was.

>>152218364
What's the 2016 way to capture stuff and make .webms? Do you still have to use FRAPS>webm for retards or whatever that program was called?

>>152218882
I use shadowplay > webm for retards

>>152218882
I use obs and webm for retards
I really should learn ffmpeg commands for converting, but I had command line stuff.
Runescape gave me carpel tunnel.

>>152219020
*but I hate command line stuff

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>>152218364
Because it was based on the decepticon fighter, wich have thrusters in both ways, and in the 4th movie, 1 ship use it backwards, so i decided at 1st to make it with hydro tanks, but they lasted seconds, so i went to atmos and ion, and give the both ways more sense.

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>>152218821
So it actually worked?

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Getting this whenever I try to start Empyrion. Not sure whether to laugh or cry.

>>152214898
>EVE online
>A game that's only fun because of social interaction
>4chan
>a bunch of anonymous autistics afraid of social interaction

>>152219270
what's your specs

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>>152218882
dxtory with that x200 whatever codec and webm for retards.
But i still cant figure how to avoid that shit at the start, when you start to do movement.

>>152219270
All I got was the menu screen stuck on loading, seemingly, with the buttons being interactible even though I can't see them, just hear the 'blip' and shit.

>>152219359
They're spectacular, thanks for asking

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>>152219408

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>>152219236
Havent started a map yet, but there is a weird thing in the advanced world settings.

You have all this scroll space without anything.

>>152219408
Oh no, it's retarded.

>>152219984
Yeah, that's because I was too lazy to fuck with the scale of the scroll area beyond making it stop fucking clipping off stuff at the end.

It sort of did that before the patch, anyway.

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>>152220074
I activated it, but still there is no pitch black on blanets, im doing some testings.

>>152220330
OK, I probably fucked something up, then.

>>152220369
same is happening, in space. Looks like the shader isnt there.

>>152219020
W42 Catherby, come hang out

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>>152220486
That was that huge explosion at a warehouse in China.

This is why you don't fuck around with fertilizer.

>>152220369
>OK, I probably fucked something up, then.
Why can't more people be like this guy? 90% of /egg/ devs, whenever they screw up anything, immediately go
>IT'S AN ALPHA
>maybe you should spend $4000 on a new rig instead of complaining you fucking poorfag
>we're just doing what the autistic man-babies with sub-80 IQs on our forums want

>>152222292
That's because N3X15 owns up to his failures.

We know he owns up to his failures because we've seen the pattern.
/vg/station has a spot for you, Nexie. Come back. The chicken (probably) misses you.

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Send help, how to finish the butt of the boat?

Just found a major bug: In-game scripts will fail to compile because the new debugging information expects Keen to encode shit as UTF-8. Predictably, Keen left encoding ambiguous so the compiler tells you to go fuck yourself.

I have a fix in the works. Will also try to fix >>152220525
>>152220330

>>152222680
Personally, I'd just slap a cover on it and put some detection gear on top.

Also, if you don't want to dick with custom controller BS you can just stick a Vehicle Controller in, it handles water vehicles fine.

>>152224263
>Personally, I'd just slap a cover on it and put some detection gear on top.
I was planning the currently uncovered part to be 1 block lower than the turret so that it doesn't look to bulky and ugly, but it looks like it'll have to be the turret height because it's only 1 door height inside otherwise, goddamn.

>>152222680
Add a spoiler.

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>>152223402
>In-game scripts will fail to compile because the new debugging information expects Keen to encode shit as UTF-8. Predictably, Keen left encoding ambiguous so the compiler tells you to go fuck yourself.
The ride never ends with these assholes, does it? I thought Marek got his shit together and told the team to stop fucking up after the livestream, for christssake.

>>152224404
You only need the extra headroom for the space above the chair and one block next to it, everything else is fine (but cramped) with 2 blocks of vertical room.

>>152224605
translate the scratch windows shit into everything he touches.
Walking arround between the dev's boxes, looking for something to put his nose in, and something to fuck up.

>>152224137
LATE

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>>152224839
Gimme a lowdown on scratched windows, I missed that meme.

>>152226481
Fuck off.

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>>152224626
Tried closing it down and it looks kind of ok from the top but it's a complete mess from the side.

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I don't think the Clangbus will reach orbit today

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>>152227909
Honestly, it's not as bad as it looks

Even if these were bomb bays at one point

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>>152228185
Oh fuck

I forgot that atmospheric heating works in both directions

I hope I don't lose anything else of import

>>152228568
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCSc0qkUshg

>>152228568
Did anyone noticed that the sparks now have a black glow arround?
like they fucked up the alpha channel or something.
I remember them looking better.

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>>152224605
>>152223402
>>152224839
Fix uploaded. In-game scripts work again, and I ended up rewriting a good part of the installer logic to fix the problem with the mod not installing.

https://github.com/N3X15/SpaceEngineers-CE/releases/tag/v01_148_001-o-01_149_002

REM IS DEAD

LONG LIVE /EGG/

>>152231327
What ever happened to REM? I deleted the first build they gave out recently and was wondering if they had a new one out yet.

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>>152231038
It werks.

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>>152231796
Yes, sempai. We've been doing pretty consistent updates.

Here's the update video that takes you through the latest features: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12us4d9mjYQ

And here's a link to the download:
https://remproject.wordpress.com/downloads/

Right now we litterally just implemented a slider for changing the thickness of armor, now we're working on the damage model and more weapons.

>>152214949
>Star Wars Galaxies
I remember buying it waaay back there.
And then i couldn't play because muh transactions

>>152233787
What transactions?

Do gravity hyper drives work on blaneds

>>152234182
You needed to buy a monthly pass to play

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Making progress. Now if both the long-range and short-range laser hit something it marks that direction as invalid (for wall detection). If just the long-range laser hits something it thinks it's food and moves to consume it. If 2+ directions contain food it picks the direction in priority of down/left/up/right

Next task is to try make some way for it to pick a random direction if there's no food in the adjacent squares.

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>>152234385
Nope, like grav generators, only work in places with no natural gravity.

Still better to break cap speed and go there yourself.

>>152197989
Fuck off nick

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>>152234505
Closer every step.

>>152234427
It was just a standard MMO subscription, did you not know about those at the time?

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>>152214758