Dota 2 General - /d2g/

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first for learn how to play carry you fucking noobs

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reminder that noobfromua did nothing wrong

>>151985310
I remember that webm

>>151985310
JUST

>>151985518
what happened? I don't watch his channel because I prefer full games, not highlights

>When the match making gets so bad you honestly consider quiting

>>151985518
what happened?

Imagine there's millions of alien races in the universe. One day, one of them stumbles upon our planet.

They are not impressed. Everything we have here they've seen already in thousands of flavors. Except one thing, DOTA. They've never seen anything like it. Their calculations show it's the most amazing game possible.

They try to play it. They tell about it to other empires. Even these extremely intelligent, can't play it good. The best alien, grey looking ayy lmao motherfucker, who has been called THE SAVIOR OF PLEYADIANS. This fella calibrated at 1700 MMR.

By this time DOTA is played in the whole galaxy. Empires bet entire planets on BO3's.

Watching human TI's sets the mood for the whole Milky Way.

Alien overlords decide they will breed humans to play DOTA.

They contact us and tell us the whole deal. Entire Earth industry and economy means nothing. Our technology is shit, we are primitive. What matters is that we are genetically engineered to play the best game possible.

People don't have to work anymore, playing DOTA earns you millions if you are able to achieve at least 3k mmr. Anyone who can calibrate at 2000 can become local star system HERO for the aliums. These who play at 5k become instant billionaires. Aliens give them anything they want, 10 tonnes of gold, advanced electronics, everything just so they play for their teams.

TFW Dota2 saved the humankind.

>>151985659
>>151985612
He used people's streams for his videos, without permission. This is why all his videos are just direct from the game.

>>151985518
>Make a post declaring that you have met someone's totally unreasonable demands.
>Shut the fuck up, you baby.
Why does that fat cunt even use Twitter? Literally NO ONE cares about what EE has to say about ANYTHING. He's a fucking idiot.

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>wake up
>no major roster shuffle

Doturds?

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How do I bring an end to all magic, dotards?

>>151985757
t. mom's basement

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>>151986176
>tfw I bet on Fnatic against Na'Vi on both games and earned a shitton of rares.

That was a good day, mang.

How do we improve the quality of pubs?

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new team secret

arteezy
matumbaman
forev
jerax
puppey

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>have a typical 4k game of odot 2
>pick void for wombo-combo with invoker, aa and wr
>double lane dk+ench rapes from min 0, literally no farm
>have to buy a talon and go jungle
>riki trashtalks all the time
>buy RoA, linken
>turn around the game
take rosh 3 times in a row and push all t1 and 2
>riki continues to trashtalk and feed
>morph is super farmed, kills my teammates in an instant
>wr refuses to buy bkb
>riki feeds gem
>kill morph, he uses buyback
>wr and riki die, no bb
>lose two lines
>kill morph second time
>final push
>jump like a ballet nigga dancer, dodging damage from zeus and mlg hooks while hitting towers
>finally die from zeus
>buyback, travel back to enemy`s base
>hit the throne until revived morph kills you
>have invoker deliver final crushing blow to it
The most tense game i had in several months

Why would anyone play this archaic and hideous top-down clickety-click babby RTS when Paragon exists and is free?

>>151986731
.02 usd has been deposited in your account.

>>151986393
>My post live for all eternity

>>151986731
is paragon the one where it was exclusive to windows 10 and flopped

>>151986731

I thought paragon was a money laundering operation

>>151986925

Friendly neighborhood GNU/Linuxbro here.
Remember to stay away from Pokemon Go and Windows 10, the portable botnet and the botnet OS respectively.

Stay safe.

>>151987148
What distro?
I want to change from Windows 8.1, just for test it.

>>151986731
Because at least I know with some certainty that DOTA2 doesn't mine bitcoins at the background

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>tfw still thinking about getting the mirana statue

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I Decided to share some of my fun Overthrow builds with you /d2g/. Do not post this on reddit.

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If pieliedie dies to neutrals and nobody is there can he crowd see the holograms?

>>151987309

As always depends on what you want the machine to do. I have machines running ArchLinux, Linux Mint, SteamOS, and ChromeOS. The tasks specify the distro, not the other way around.

>Tfw general is STILL dead

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>tfw your true skill needs to be like 1k higher than your current rating if you want to actually go up in MMR in less than ten years

>>151987945
>true skill
here's your (You)

Someone told me 5k is average MMR. Are they right?

>>151987945
this is somewhat true but the effect is mitigated by behavior score

if you have a sub-8000 behavior score you effectively have no chance to gain mmr. you really want over 9000 to try to gain.

>MVP loves picking PA
>never paired her with omni
How do we fix this shitter?

>>151988143
3k is average
4k is decent
5k is good
6k is semi-pro
7k-9k is pro

>>151988143
Nope, avrg is 3k

>>151988234

Obviously you pick up Demon

>>151988234
>omni
>hero gets completely countered by diff
pls no

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>>151987945
>tfw your true skill is below your actual mmr and you're still rising because Zet, the Arc Warden

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>tfw been stuck in upper 2k for fucking months and can't claw my way out
Help me.
Or end me. Either answer is correct, at this point in time.

>>151988556
learn how to farm

hey im a pro player and i'll kill myself tomorrow

bye

>>151988659
good riddance

>>151988659
ENVY NO

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>>151985659
>twitch kills VODs and mutes everything
>big streamers are too lazy to upload their shit to youtube
>slav caps streams and uploads them
>it's once again possible to watch stuff with sound or at all because none of these fucks uploads VODs
>slav is able to make a modest living in his poverty stricken shithole from this
>dota pros start to smear his name on reddit
>they get his videos taken down on youtube
>slav has to cap from ingame replays instead of streams
>big streamers are still too lazy to upload to youtube

>>151988659
can you stream it with a tutorial?

we all need something to fill the esports void

>>151986731
I want to try it but I have a toaster.

>>151988659
>local man kills himself and runs away from the crime scene

More news at 11

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>>151986578
>tfw you were the riki

>>151988630
I did. I break 50 cs in any safelane where I'm not fucked over. I can break 60 mid as a qop.

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>>151988430
Kill yourself.

>>151988659
why

I think I'm gonna get the WR figma.

>>151988556
>>151988993
post dotabuff please

>>151988271
>>151988269
3k isn't average either, there's a million shitters who never even calibrate

i bet the real average is somewhere around 2k or high 1k

>>151988993
If I have a low/no contest lane I'll have nearly 100 cs at ten minutes, learn to farm

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Does anyone have that picture of rtz on a trike?

>>151988993
play "win the game" heroes like jugg or invoker than hit towers and carry rather than "walking memeback piggybank" heroes like qop

>>151989210
>If I have a low/no contest lane I'll have nearly 100 cs at ten minutes,
Are you counting denies or something? 80 creeps spawn in 10 minutes.
I guess you could play a sven and have someone stack hard.
>>151989147
I don't want to be bullied.

>>151989470
>I don't want to be bullied.

then you don't care about being better and don't deserve to be here

>>151989470
>wants to get better
>doesn't post dotabuff
???
who cares what some anonymous fucks on the internet think

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>>151988998
Are you one of those people that dies to an un-microed necrobook a-clicked down a lane?

>>151989470
82 creeps spawn in ten minutes, you have additional access to the hard camp and the small camp, 90 at 10 minutes is easy as fuck in a lane with a support who zones, 100 is really good, you kill 70 lane creeps and 5 hard camps and you're at 85, hit the small camp twice and yoiu're in the 90's. Sven is obviously the "best" for hard farming early, but jug, am, and slark are also really good for it.
Sven>Slark>AM>Jug. I could hit a consistent 90 on all of them.

>>151989147
http://www.dotabuff.com/players/15865/matches

>>151989470
protip: even if we do bully you, we'll forget you even existed by the next thread

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>funn1k is currently teamless, frequently in low priority, insulting russians out of "nationalistic pride", spamming pudge, and dropping to 5k mmr

>>151985836
?
Didn't zai litteraly just ask for Noobfromua to ask for the players' permission before uploading content from their streams?

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>>151987594
tried the ET build

definitely works, I was shit as him though.

I two shotted invoker so that was funny. Gonna try again.

>>151990097
who?

Do people with a behavior score of 7k-8k really get matched differently than people with a behavior score of 9k?

My behavior score is above 9.5k, I'm just wondering

>picks jungle WK after AM+riki already picked

who the fuck are these people

>>151990652
Yes, who the fuck picks riki and am in 2016

aynone worry that the west might fuck it up this year and let the chink have 2 TI in a row ?

>>151990946
>doubting peter

>>151985518
>EternalEnvy calling anybody a fucking baby

I have half a mind to spam his fucking Twitter with images of him sulking when his team got their ass handed to them by Alliance.

>>151991185
Not to mention he's a fucking weeb animu shitposter

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yes or no on the statue?

>>151991432
no

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>>151991079
>Honeypotter

its over

>>151991432
Nein

stop replying to yourself asspine

>>151991432
>Mirana

lmao literally who cares besides footfags and fetal alcohol syndrome lovers.

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>>151991432
>yfw this is the original mirana

>>151991632
>he doesn't like girl feet

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the lower the behavior score the better, right?

>>151991665
It's literally a regressed stumpy hand.

>>151991786
>not wanting that regressed stumpy hand rubbing against your dick
What a gay

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>>151991953
Eeew, feet are gross dude

>>151991769
PSG?

>>151990270
All I can say is that when I was at 6k and 7k matches were so low quality and painful that I stopped playing with players and went to play with the bots on the dead servers like Dubai until I hit 8k.

>>151992128
But they're clean and soft, just like skin anywhere else in the body.

Also are the servers down for anyone else?

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why couldnt this be the monkey king?

>steam is down for regular tuesday maintenance
What now

>>151992263
i wish dota had more cute waifus
the game would be so much better

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>>151992263

because the frog hates hot girls

>>151992263
because that clearly isn't a king

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>2 more wins to reach 5k
I'm gonna give up ranked forever after that.

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>>151992231
>PSG?

pff, i decided to finally have fun playing dota

my behavior score was 1 for months on end though

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Which OUR GUYS follow the Sam Hyde cult?

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>>151992356
>Secret Journey will never EVER get a sequel

>>151992356
Do you know if they're gonna continue the hentai adaptation?

>>151988659
Miracle pls

>>151992567
Sam Hyde peaked with father figure.

>>151992567
tnc literally has a player named Sam_H

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>>151992591
>>151992627

i think the original artist stopped drawing hentai and the animation studio is shit anyway

I wished valve would sponsor full 3d VR hentai porn featuring doto waifus

I see the international 2016 terrain needs level 125 to unlock, is that even possible to attain before Aug 30th if someone bought the Battle Pass right this second?
I'm new and liked how the map looked at TI

>>151992263
Thematically incoherent and would probably look like ass ingame anyway.
I don't mind what they did for Wukong at all. Fitting voice and personality. Only thing that threw me off in the trailer is that his staff was fucking BENDING, but even that is explainable by the fact that he can make it take any shape he wants...why he'd want to make it wiggle like a pool noodle? Fuck only knows.

>>151992921
I don't think you can buy battle points to upgrade the compendium to 125 anymore but you can try.

>>151992921
95% sure you cant, since you cant buy levels anymore

Who are some decent Dota streamers? I'm new and I wanna watch some reasonably skilled people play so I can know positioning and shit better before I get to it. Moving out Friday to college, current internet is potato so I can't play.

>>151992263
girls can't be kings
stupid dumb dotard scum

>>151992921
not sure, i got many levels from betting. You can still try, there are people abusing the game giving you the quests in matches, i think thats the only way to get that many levels in no time

>>151992748
Nignog what you on about, Sams stand up keeps getting better and better

>>151992921
actually on second thought, youy can get to level 125 right now. you can buy compendium levels on the steam market. so actually yes you can. its just valve themselves who stopped selling it. go for it anon.

>>151992921
Buy all the cheap TI6 immortals and mass recycle the for 2 levels each

>>151993143
ixmike is the only streamer you need

>ixmike streaming for 20 hours now
call the police

>>151993143
of the ones that are on right now:
/wagamamatv
/draskyl
/attackerdota (kunkka spammer)

basically go to liquiddota.com and look at the "live streams" tab and pick the most viewed

do NOT watch ixmike as he is a shitter

>>151993328
>>151993374
Thank you anons, so its locked unless I fork over a ton of money which really stinks.

Its a shame that such a nice looking map gets removed for everyone that didn't buy in fast enough, I was looking forward to that.

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>Not having your own Rocha to dance El Dipy with
Why even leave Dotardus?

>>151993374
>mfw I realize this would have been cheaper than buying levels the last day
t-thanks anon

>>151993596
waga and draskyl already finished. Only blitz remains

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>after ti6
>starting to play after a long pause for some mmo shit
>6k mmr but gotta practice in unranked first
>it's fucking terrible

Fugg:DDD

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>>151986018
Play invoker

>>151993782
high mmr unranked solo q is unbearable because everybody is an ebin 4k smurf

i intentionally throw most of my unranked games to get my unranked mmr down so that the games are playable

>>151993689
yeah what i though about untradable stuff: why is still untradable? They already added that phone confirmation thing and is harder now to scam someone, you still can of course but is a little harder.

>>151986018
Not using blink and mana :~)

>day9 is wanting to get into dota

you guys think the redditor infestation of dota is bad now...

>>151994261
>what is purity of will

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what is with these chinese TI6 meme comics?

>>151994439
TI2 just ended

>>151994439
it's a beta

>>151994439
Having fast TI threads with 75% userbase being reddit/vtards/people who visit vg once a year was terrible

>>151991769
How do you check this?

BOW TO ME MORTAL

>>151994439
>These threads used to be fun
so did the game

and guess what

>>151994689
in console:
developer 1
dota_game_account_debug

near the end of the wall of text, there should be player_behavior_score_last_report: xxxx

10k is max, higher is better, and it affects your matches

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>>151994715
You have summoned the top 100 Skeleton King

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HOW THE FUCK DO I DO THIS?

>>151994321
>day9
legendary caster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dqYxpxegrk

>>151994867
puck

>>151994439
Artist?

>>151994867
pudge, rot, euls sceptre

>>151994636
Actually now that all heroes have been ported we're now finally out of beta :-)

>>151994867
play PL and buy butterfly and spam your blink?

>>151993694
Rochas can go die for all that I care.

>>151994867
easily

>>151994867
Slark pounce
Blink Dagger
AM/QoP blink
Mirana Leap

>>151994815
>5072
hmm...

>>151994018
5ks making 4k smurf or people trying to calibrate high by going mid every game etc?

ok senpai
how does the gulag play arc warden

>>151994979
>>151994932
>>151995007
This sounds horrible

>>151995029
that's an awful score, don't shittalk, don't spam pings, don't do dumb shit on purpose

>>151995073
PA W disjoints, right?

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Dotards?

HNNGNHHGH

>>151994867
Either use puck and phase shift which for some reason counts all avoided attacks even from creeps and towers or pick a hero with evasion and get a blink to evade 5 spells.

Note that causing the enemy to miss does not count as evading so if you hit them with blinding light or drunken haze it won't count.

>>151995037
Both and the rare Ensage (script) user.

>>151995172
hmm no PA doesn't have wex

>>151995029
>>151995153
by the way, 8k is an acceptable score, 9k is reserved for angels only

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>3 years ago
>nobody believed in the shadow pool, i even said i thought it was a continuum or score instead of a pool, nobody believed me
>today
>everyone acknowledges behavior score and knows it's real

My work here is done...But that's only one job. There's much left to do.

>want to play dota
>daily hero challenge changes in 4 minutes

What do I do four 4 minutes?

>>151995301
hmm, I think you need to find a Dota 1 general.
Don't tell me you're using the hotkeys for the wrong game, lol

>>151988659
n0tail pls

>>151995414
> What do I do 4 4 minutes?
Learn to spell.

>>151995384
Everyone doesn't believe in behavior score, but most people believe in shadowpool

>>151995037
majority of the players in unranked solo queue games are smurfs with ~20 games on their account. they're almost all awful and only play mid or carry or whatever

they also abandon the moment something goes wrong because it's their smurf

there's almost never any support heroes because everybody is smurfing

by 4k smurfs i mean shitty 4k players who think they'll hit 5k or whatever by smurfing

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Is OG disbanding yet?

holy shit this blitz stream is great

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>Thought I was pretty decent at dota, high 4k mmr
>Watching Blitz stream
>These fucking knowledge bombs constantly coming out of Blitz's fat chink mouth
Holy shit he's so knowledgable.
Compared to him I'm a fucking 2k trashcan shitter my goodness. I thought I knew things but no; I know nothing.

tfw i'll never get gud

>miracle browse /d2g/

Nice meme

>>151995586
Nigga for minutes isn't enough to learn to spell.

>>151995452
i think someone should go back to lolg

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what do you eat when you die lategame /d2g/?

>>151995604
but shadow pool doesn't exist and behavior score does.

Shadow pool doesn't exist but flags do. For instance, if I abandon I lose a HUGE amount of behavior score, between 1500 and 2000, other people have reported losing 400 for an abandon.

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>>151995645
GANBATTE!!

>>151995608
>Misery and n0tail in the dark, never the big players of C9
>EE in the light, on the c9 spotlight
>Now EE is irrelevant while OG is a two time Major winner and Misery is a TI finalist
Like pottery

>>151995790
cool, doesn't change what people believe in though

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>>151986176
why did people stop making collages for TI?

>>151995770
>I just ate but I'll eat again
what is that?

>>151995836
Except n0lans is irrelevant same as EE. And his team chocked almost the same way as Secret on TI.

>>151995689
what

>>151995770
I eat my carries cum like a good support should.

>>151995998
collageguy got lazy or left

Maybe has a contract that worth more than winning a major

What the fuck

>>151996003
creamed peas on toast

>>151996070
best mid in China $$$

>>151995998
/d2g/ during TIs got retarded
>>151996019
>OG is irrelevant
based on what, one bad TI performance?
If they keep doing really bad for the next 4-6 months, maybe

>Blitzdota
How is he so good?

>>151995384
>start playing in 2011
>be pristine example of all that is holy
>never in my life been in low priority, never in my life been muted
>never in my life abandon more than a single game in which i did abandon
>8879 behaviour score currently
>constantly get matched with the most retarded dumbfucks who are garbage at dota and also rude (but most importantly they suck)
>5k mmr
i can't comprehend any worse dota existence than this, how can the shadow pool be real? how can 2k mmr be real?

>>151996070
>>151996110
How do chinese organizations make that much money?

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>>151995998
They didn't like dumb kumiko poster and quit.

>>151996242
Based Homu poster

blitz schoolin niggas

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>Ritsu, EE, Bulba, MSS, SVG
Y/n?

holy shit blitz

finally item betting is dead

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/csgolounge#announcements/detail/825669237155672609

>>151996161
>based on what, one bad TI performance?
>If they keep doing really bad for the next 4-6 months, maybe

n0lans performance was always terrible and yeah bad TI is enough for the most teams to change players or disband and make a new roster.

It was fucking clear that a "Potential #1 team" that was knocked out by Koreans and Pinoys is not doing well. Miracle who is playing like EE is a sign of internal problems. I'm not saying anything about n0lans because he's always playing like shit.

>>151996214
Billionaire i guess

VP is sponsored 100million by a russian mafia

>>151996401
>>151996457
You can literally just post these comments in Twitch chat

>>151996423
tier 3

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>tfw blitz will never recreate team zephyr with purge

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>Tune into Blitz stream to hear these knowledge bombs
>It's just basic map awareness and such, keeping track of the enemy and how to keep up farm efficiency inbetween fights and ganks

How could you be 4k and not know this already. There aren't any invis heroes on the enemy team even.

>>151996214
huge domestic audience

just look at twitch, dota2 gets maybe 10k viewers

in china there are always a few hundred k watching dota2

and no, it's not all viewbots

>>151996048
Um no i made that one

I hate valve now plus the lasts TI didn't have any feeling , its too corporate

>>151996487
sorry dad

>>151996468
dota2.vpgame.com

dotards?

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>>151996206
your dumbfucks are because of boosting and autism

here's what low behavior score is like: everyone loads up the game and does whatever they want. there is no concept of "team" whatsoever and nobody understands that anything others do can have any contribution to success. other teammates are simply units that sometimes take gold from you and accept reports in return.

Like, I really can't explain it to you. Imagine you go to play a pickup basketball game in the park. In your game there is a guy who is a ball hog, a guy who talks shit for no reason (to both teams), and a guy who isn't trying as hard as he should be. You still play a pickup game of basketball and leave.

In my game of pickup basketball, one guy will only walk with the ball. One guy keeps making shooting and layup motions despite not having the ball, and not trying to get it. One guy takes the ball and intentionally scores on our team. Another guy accepts a pass and just dribbles, refusing to ever take a single shot in the game, getting stolen from every time.

It isn't a team game at low behavior score, it doesn't resemble dota. It's 10 people walking around the map until someone wins.

I went 18-2 in this game and the players I had could not turn that into a win. Think about that.

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What's next for his pro career?

>>151996596
that is getting shutdown as well, they are using valve/steam API :)

Which safe lane do I spam for mmr? Slark? Is he Aquila>Treads>SB>Echo Sabre>Moonshard>Silver Edge>Skadi?

>>151996471
>n0tails performance has always been terrible
And still theyve been doing fine enough. The team has learned how to work around n0tail, him not being the outperforming carry and not his playstyle. He has never really been locked to one role, and that shows how he hasn't really mastered any role.
>"potential #1 team" got knocked out
Last TI was fucking wacky, any team could have dropped to pretty much any team, as seen by all the favorites dropping out.
Like I said, for now the only proof there is, is "N0tail plays bad like always" and "they did bad this TI". You can't say a team is garbage if they do bad one tournament, and even if you could, most teams don't just sit around and go" Well, we did badly, oh well" but try to improve.

is being a competent mid player still a free win like it was about a year ago

>>151996832
if you have to ask how to build slark you aren't ready to spam for mmr. get better at the game instead of increasing a number that is meaningless becuase you are trash.

>>151996512
youd be surprised how dumb the top of the ladder and pros are

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I want to be like this guy, what should i do?

>>151997032
kill yourself

>>151996780
>shutting down a chinese website

>>151996898
I know how I used to build him, but I haven't played in ages and they've implemented a bunch of new items

>>151997032
Think of yourself as a prodigy of Dota 2, destined to do great things, when you're just a mediocore player with no natural talent but a high amount of dedication

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>>151996897
It is if you Zet, the Arc Warden

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>>151997032
give them the ol' PSG special

>start game off intentionally feeding because someone took your lane or whatever
>decide to play
>get relieved comments from your teammates like "oh good clinkz decided to play"
>make it into a competitive game
>when you have a chance to win, sell some items and buy rapira
>drop rapira on purpose in a fight but don't make it look like a straight up feed

win/win situation either you get a super mental orgasm from feeding after they thought it was a game or you get one from killing everyone with rapier

>>151997142
they shut down the bots and API usage, not the website

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>>151996832
Slark spammer here.
Don't spam Slark for mmr.
Slark nerf coming in the next 1-3 patches, so you'll be finding yourself in an mmr you can't play and learn in if youre not playing your ez mmr hero

>>151997204
but how do i Zet, the Arc Warden

>>151997032
>Become a meme
>Join teams
>Somehow kick people and start upgrading the team
>When you get around second place consistently
>Move to another team till you get first place
>when that is achieved kick the players that made you win and get your friends in right before a 20 million tournament

I really hate how they don't let you bet item now

Fuck Valve

>feel like I should buy an infused raindrops just on intuition
>buy infused raindrops
>next fight eat two morphling nukes and escape with literally 4 hp, entire enemy team gets wiped partially because they chased me

God I love fucking outplay items and can't wait for more of them. wind lace and raindrops are the most interesting shit added in forever

Though raindrops dumpster DP so bad it isn't fair, she gains no HP from spirit siphon, blocked by a single raindrop

>>151997251
What triggered the events?

>>151997441
blame h3h3

>>151997504
there is a lawsuit pending court date against valve for allow betting, which is against the states law

>>151997518
who?

>>151997504
this video and a lawsuit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8fU2QG-lV0

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>playing centaur
>just generally dicking around and stacking hearts
>enemy lc thinks she's clever and tries to pick me off with a duel
>almost fucking instagibs herself from return damage

>>151997441
bet real money you nigger

>>151997645
is anyone going to jail? can they even?

>>151985836
weebs does

they are the literal sheeple of the robots

>>151996889
>And still theyve been doing fine enough. The team has learned how to work around n0tail, him not being the outperforming carry and not his playstyle. He has never really been locked to one role, and that shows how he hasn't really mastered any role.

It was only enough because it wasn't TI and most teams are not giving a fuck about honeypot lans.

Look at PPD who's forming a team before TI with Zai who skipped all lans and they still managed to do fairly well.
After 6 fucking TIs it should be painfully obvious that TI is the only tournament that matter, nothing else. Not a single non-TI tournament including majors matters.

OG just repeated the Secret 2015 path.

>Last TI was fucking wacky, any team could have dropped to pretty much any team, as seen by all the favorites dropping out.

Not really. The only team that failed hard was OG. DC had surprising performance but everyone else was more or less on their place.

>Like I said, for now the only proof there is, is "N0tail plays bad like always" and "they did bad this TI". You can't say a team is garbage if they do bad one tournament, and even if you could, most teams don't just sit around and go" Well, we did badly, oh well" but try to improve.

Yes I can. And n0lans has a huge history of being a shitter.

>>151997592
lawsuit can't be heard and will be rejected, it's basically ambulance chaser level shit and valve didn't do anything wrong (precedent already established)

valve squashed it because a fuss was being made; it was a story. they let it go until a fuss was made for the first time and then they deleted it.

this earned them some extra money, and the moment it became an issue it disappeared. valve is a smart company.

>>151997032
>Play Terrorblade
>Insist on sundering Illusions on the same HP as you, or heroes with their Linken's up
>Get constantly caught out of position

Done

>>151997717
they might get a settlement out of it

but they already succeeded in shutting down skin betting

>>151997768
it won't, they will mention how valve shut it down when the lawsuit was noticed :)

>>151997228
>being this much of a piece of shit
teach me your ways

>>151997592
>there is a lawsuit pending court date against valve for allow betting, which is against the states law
How fucked are they?

>>151997645
That video doesn't even cover the business model. Im seriously baffled by the fact no one realizes how evil vale is

Like im seriously baffled because its so evident

>>151997775
The articles say only 23 sites are banned

>>151997893
It can't be heard. There isn't legal grounds to sue Valve, the court will reject the suit.

This isn't an argument. This is me telling you what is going to happen

>valve liable for betting because they let sites use an API
>suddenly any maker of technology is liable for any end use of technology

suit will be rejected. Nobody is getting any money out of Valve and Valve is not in trouble.

>>151998036
>How fucked are they?
technically Valve isn't really fucked, it's bad for PR though

>>151997025
Some people but not most. Not even brain dead carries can be that dumb they still have to have some map awareness to farm without dying.

>>151997707
Every real money betting site I've heard of for games will not pay out if you win more than a few hundred total.

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Dotards?

why do people plant iron branches to use tangoes instead of just eating a regular tree?

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>>151997362
You git gud at micro and understanding situational builds

general build is optional RoA, midas, situationally almost anything

maelstrom, blink, bots, sb, force, diffusal, orchid, sometimes necro are all decent early items. after that it's really almost anything

arc warden is capable of snowballing off kills with nothing but level 6, a mango and a salve. you should be snowballing off kills early since he farms like dogshit without 5k of items

mostly it's just getting gud and thinking about clever use of spark wraiths and tempest double

>>151997987
remember, doing this stuff was in the depths of behavior score, so anyone i did it to deserved it.

I'm racking up good boy points these days, I don't even have to buy the courier every game regardless of hero or role now!

>>151998036
They make money! SO EVIL! despite the fact that they give more back to the end user than any equivalent company

>>151997360
Which safelaners are the best to play this patch then?

>>151998204
Drow is a pretty good choice.

>>151997754
>and most teams are nto giving a fuck about honeypot lans
>source: me
Most teams aren't teams made just for winning TIs, thats too much pressure and what the players want to do is just play for a living. Like sure all the big teams aim for it, but they just wanna play Dota 2 compepetively.
>only OG failed
Secret out last second last (not saying they could have won, but probably not second last)
Liquid out early
EG not in finals
3/4 literal who teams as top 4
>n0tail has a huge history of being a shitter
Well, you can say a team is garbage, but it probably isn't correct. Once again, even if he is a shitter, they're doing well enough in the big picture. Come back in 6 months with them having just a single second place in some B level tournament and 6-10th place in the major and then tell me the team is doing badly

>>151998204
Drow and Sven
Safe lane Centaur is also catching on.

>>151998202
>They make money! SO EVIL! despite the fact that they give more back to the end user than any equivalent company
Its not that they make money,its how they make it

I've never seen a video game company something so evil in my entire life. EA trying to sell weapon reloads in battlefield doesn't even come close

>>151998350
it's okay when Blizzard does it though

>>151998350
>make statement
>offer no logical reasoning

let's just abort this line of thought anyway since you're a little kid and you simply think valve is "evil" because they're a big company

they've always been around to enable you so they have no value to you, a non-computist who wouldn't have been able to PC game before steam

>>151998054
True, but will betting come back anytime soon?

>>151998184
why not radiance octarine manta?

>>151998427
>let's just abort this line of thought anyway since you're a little kid and you simply think valve is "evil" because they're a big company
Its too long to write in 4chan posts but fuck them

Knocking down betting is going to reduce massively their income

>>151998204
Not an official list, just what fits my playstyle
Top tier (can abuse retards and don't need a lot of farm, can win a game with below average teammates)
>Lifestealer
>Terrorblade
>Meepo
>Juggernaut (can't 1v5 but its a pretty retardproof hero)
Ok tier (might need better teammates/space to farm/just not top tier stats/metawise
>Ursa
>Antimage
>Sven
>Maybe Alchemist, haven't been playing him that much safelane lately
>troll

>>151998054
>bet all my 3 cent skins/dota items for shits and giggles
>win and lose here and there
>make some friends discussing bets and stuff
>matches are fun to watch because I put a small bet on a team
>naturally I start following the scene and getting interested in teams and players

All shut down by a salty whiny American kid who trusted youtubers and got scammed. Americans truly are the worst.

>>151998598
>Knocking down betting is going to reduce massively their income

It isn't going to touch their income whatsoever. The vast majority of their income is game sales, items and shit being second place, and people who bet were a tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of players. Far less than one tenth of one percent.

Nobody cares about betting. Nobody. And the fact that teen kids like you were involved in it is a blatant sign that it needed to go. I'm glad it's gone, shit like that doesn't need to be associated with the games I play

Can someone explain the reason why Draskyl/Waga are popular streamers, and how did they get viewers in the first place=

>>151998443
It will never come back. People will do small scale sites but Valve can just easily write checks to determine if an account is a middleman bot and ban it. After a while people won't take the risk.

>>151998697
so you can only socialize through betting huh? must mean it's immensely valuable to the community then. fuck off.

>>151998740
>It isn't going to touch their income whatsoever. The vast majority of their income is game sales, items and shit being second place, and people who bet were a tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of players. Far less than one tenth of one percent.
Their dota 2/CSGO income, don't be an austist

>Nobody cares about betting. Nobody.
This is a massive lie

>>151998787
Waga used to go shirtless to pander to queers and Draskyl plays with his subs so they get to meme with an eceleb.

>>151998452
it's a clan_iraq meme

thus situational with poor teamfight contribution, your manta illus in particular are really bad cos shit agi gain and ranged

personally i prefer a more utility or dps carry approach with disables and high raw damage

almost anything is viable if played correctly, it's more about your personal playstyle

>>151998787
i dont get why people like waga cause his stream is legit boring. draskyl is just a chill stream with good music and the stuff that he talks about is usually decently interesting. also draskyl actually does understand dota really well and can explain things simply and methodically like merlini

>>151998896
>Their dota 2/CSGO income, don't be an austist

It isn't going to touch that income. Like I said, a tiny fraction of a percent. The vast majority of all players do not know betting was available to them.

It's extremely niche shit. It isn't going to hurt valve whatsoever.

>>151998740
Betting drove item purchases though.

There's a reason they stopped giving out free items people could bet/trade.

Post your Dota autism
>have to finish creep camp even if my whole team is fighting in the nearby lane
>have to make sure all my supports keep tps on them
>have to leave quelling blade next to ancients for efficiency instead of selling it
>have to always cut efficiency paths in the jungle
>Don't sell regen if I have like 1 tango left, rather just use it at full hp

>>151998280
>Secret out last second last (not saying they could have won, but probably not second last)
>Liquid out early
>EG not in finals

No one was retarded enough to believe that Secret with EE and Bulba would do well.
Liquid chocked in a group stage already and it was obvious they wouldn't perform well later.
EG already had a good contender because at that time DC wasn't some random team already. Their fans could dream about them playing in a grand final but there's nothing really unusual that they failed this year.

>3/4 literal who teams as top 4

If you're calling Wings or Fnatic "literal who teams" then you are simply delusional.

>Well, you can say a team is garbage, but it probably isn't correct. Once again, even if he is a shitter, they're doing well enough in the big picture. Come back in 6 months with them having just a single second place in some B level tournament and 6-10th place in the major and then tell me the team is doing badly

C9 did well enough back then too and it didn't change the fact that EE is a shitter as well.

>>151998970
>It's extremely niche shit. It isn't going to hurt valve whatsoever.
yes it will

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>>151998941
?

>>151998787
Because they started streaming in 2011 or early 2012 and stuck around.

IIRC back then even shitters like Weedman had tons of viewers, there was no competition at all.

>>151998960
Don't both waga and draskyl listen to the same old school normie music?
>>151999019
w/e this discussion is literally going nowhere
>"yeah but it is like this"
>"no it isnt because I say so"
>"yeah it is because opinions"

>>151998202
psg?

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>>151999131
Did people besides niggas and people entertained by "haha weed XD hehe weedstrike" shit actually watch Weedman unironically?

>>151997360
>Slark nerf coming in the next 1-3 patches
yeah nah mate

>>151999090
No, it won't. The amount of money they just made by dangling immortal gardens for $60 is probably more than the amount of money that betting ever added to the system.

You people think it matters becuase this is news to you. It isn't news to most people. Most people didn't know about betting. 99%+ of dota and CS players have never bet. It's irrelevant.

>>151999295
>niggas
oh you're one of those

>>151999149
sorta, waga is more modern music while draskyl pretty much only does old school shit

>>151999295
>white socks

s.m.h

>>151999120
anything works against a bad team, I watched that entire game

>>151999346
>You people think it matters becuase this is news to you. It isn't news to most people. Most people didn't know about betting. 99%+ of dota and CS players have never bet. It's irrelevant.
You don't understand how valve's business model works.

>>151999380
It's not a /pol/ thing to hate on black people, especially in dota, you know.

>>151999458
And you, once again, don't understand that maybe 0.001% of players ever used betting sites.

The amount of money it drags in is insignificant compared to a SINGLE SALE or a SINGLE ARCANA or a SINGLE IMMORTAL TREASURE.

>>151999346
>99%+ of dota and CS players have never bet. It's irrelevant.

>whales don't matter for f2p game revenue
>betting isn't an amazing way to create more whales
>dotards bought all these lina arcanas because the item is cool

Where is RTZ going senpai

i dont think arc warden is op its just that people arent accustomed to countering him

>>151999534
>The amount of money it drags in is insignificant compared to a SINGLE SALE or a SINGLE ARCANA or a SINGLE IMMORTAL TREASURE.
>Top earner this day in vpgame made $64k in hats

>>151999458
>buy their shit on their store
>they gey a cut
users interchanging items among them do not give valve any cash. betting may increase store purchase from people doing the bets, but no more than an update, an event or whatever from valve could do. The amount of people actually betting was tiny

>>151999623
he will go to OG

>>151995073
just play puck jesus christ it is that easy
remember to order your spells and items correctly and that blink->euls/dagon is king

>>151995178
wow they really nailed the way she has downs syndrome and her right eye is falling off her fucking face
now if only they got the slime coating and statue posture right, then it'd be perfect

>>151999434
haha kidding

>>151999485
i'm implying only a nigger would say "nigga"

>>151999668
Arteezy only plays with people he is comfortable with and there is no one on OG he is comfortable with. Maaaybe Cr1t but not so much.

>>151999639
>>Top earner this day in vpgame made $64k in hats
Gee I wonder if it's a fucking scam you retard

>>151999642
>The amount of people actually betting was tiny
No it wont since they won't have anything to get steambux with

>>151998787
i like draskyl cause he talks and looks like walter white

>>151999762
Nah, I'm just the type of a white boi who uses words like nigga, F A M and shieet ironically and a bit unironically at this point

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>trying to predict the steam market
>I bet prices will god own when TI immortals become marketable because people want capital to buy them!
>sell items before thinking to buy them back later
>the prices went up

>>151999826
He's quite close to Moon

>>151999867
Why would it be a scam?

>bet bfs or hooks
>$200+ a single item

>>151999826
>Arteezy only plays with people he is comfortable with and there is no one on OG he is comfortable with. Maaaybe Cr1t but not so much.
so its true all along

what a sperglord

>>151999826
RTZ is desperate for a non honeypot lan win, he will go to OG for at least one major since they have already won one twice

>>151999534
You think they don't care about a million usd because they rake in billions?

>>151999623
Most likely EG if Fear retires, if not, arteezy will form a new team around himself, kinda like OG did with Miracle.

>>151999346
>No, it won't. The amount of money they just made by dangling immortal gardens for $60 is probably more than the amount of money that betting ever added to the system.
Only retards give Valve their money. Anyone with half a brain bought the cheaptest immortals for .45$ on day 1, recycled them for levels, sold the treasures the levels got them, and repeated.

What is up with TA?
Is there something wrong with her?
Because every time I play her I end up with tri lane mid trying to murder me

>>151999630
it's also that almost no one plays his counters (lycan, brood, LD, meepo)

most of the arc warden spam is because it's a hero like tinker or invoker where you can solocarry with, play mid, get active on and scales really well with individual skill

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So did Sunsfan get cucked and DC disband?

>>152000051
>going back to EG

I don't think he will. The entire community will mock him for that

>>152000113
she needs her own personal cuck to religiously stack ancients for her and worship her feminine penis

>>152000113
he is super easy to gank if you have dust

>>152000202
It would be funny if all his players refused to pay a share of their winnings to DC and he had to go back to making meme videos

>>152000221
like they dont do that already?

>>152000221
The entire community already mocks him, that's why he stopped streaming
he's just a meme

>>151995073
Pick Pudge, activate rot, use Euls, done.

>>152000029
No, I think they stop caring about the million the moment it becomes bad press. Bad press costs far more negatively speaking.

>>152000074
the amount of money i spent is insignificant to me becuase i'm an adult. enjoy never having immortal gardens.

>>152000302
>he
but TA is a girl (male)

>>152000162
>most of the arc warden spam is because it's a hero like tinker or invoker where you can solocarry with, play mid, get active on and scales really well with individual skill
this
i never bothered gitting gud with those heroes but since i learned warden its really been easy winning games

must be because of his anti cumback mechanic

man fuck that idea
punishes good ricing players

>>152000221
like he cares about that

>>152000354
>that's why he stopped streaming
Rtc stopped streaming because Secret has an exclusive contract with PandaTV, some chink streaming site.

He is literally being paid not to stream on Twitch, mock all you want senpai.

So I haven't played in like a year but I've noticed that in the few TI games I've watched mids don't leave lane to stack for themselves at all.

Is it just not worth it anymore? Or is it that they can't afford to?

>>152000467
>implying he don't

He's just a boy dude. He stopped streaming because of this

>>152000395
>the amount of money i spent is insignificant to me becuase i'm an adult. enjoy never having immortal gardens.
Already got it, didn't even spend 10 dollarydoos for the goypendium since I got someone to gift me it for items. =]

>>152000480
im willing to bet RTZ made way more on twitch from donations than the chicks pay him. every time he streamed he was constantly getting donations at 4 bucks a pop at the minimum