Monster Hunter General - /mhg/

Eleventh for I wish the stupid "Bonus Shot is a risky skill" meme would die.

second for SEEEEEEEE YAAAAAAAAAAA

>>151825780
Is that a fucking tampon?

It's definitely BEEEE YAAAAAA

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>join a room
>"time for some comfy turns hunting!"
>lbg user has lost musket

Fucking kill me.

>>151825990
It is generally considered polite to say see ya before informing someone they wouldn't wanna be ya. Most guildies think that way, you can tell.

I'm 160 hours in and just realized I haven't played a single game with the cat, or even seen anyone online using it. I take it it's every bit as bad as everyone said.

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Why haven't you completed her DLC yet, /mhg/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeywY1bjY40

Can someone that speaks moonrune decipher what armour skills he's running? He has them in the description, but when I put it through google translator I get some nonsense like "hunter of the south wind" and "ballistic strengthening".

Coal Hearted seems like the best way to get Worn weapons.

What's the best way to get Rustshards/Tarnished weapons? I want to make Daora's Razor.

>>151826074
It's basically a cuter Pierce gun, around the middle of the field in terms of power compared to the other weapon types.
That is, when used properly.
Most people that use it online are shitters.

>>151826094
>replacing my brown huntress' hair with that shitty blonde ponytail

No thanks

>>151826118
>hunter of the south wind
wow does he actually use tropic hunter? these red bottles were hot drinks?

>>151826195
Select speedruns are using tropic and polar hunter, yes.

>>151826094
I got the gun, which was enough 9K health, 350% damage Hyper Garuga for me.

>>151826118
Monhun wiki has the skills in moonrune, try copy pasting there.

>>151826074
Playing them sucks until you figure out their gimmick, and then you realize they suck.

Regardless you should at least complete the Arena quest line. I think there's a total of 3 Arena matches as cats, and 4 hub cat quests you gotta do to unlock those.

>>151826236
>350% damage
...Really?
He didn't seem to hit that hard to me

>>151826287
Compared to the baseline.
The normal Hyper Garuga quest has a 265% damage modifier.

Just finished The Fated Four for the first time using a Rathalos set and a power swag axe. That felt less satisfying than the 1v1 with Shaggy Maggy, to be honest.

Is HR stuff only on Hub?

post yer mixsets

>>151826376
end village quests are HR

>>151826118
tropical hunter
aus
pierce up
shot booster
weakness exploit

>>151826281
That run's not a TA.

What are the essential skills for CB? I've heard of people talking about stuff like Load Up

>>151826418
>That run's not a TA
What does that have to do with anything?

>>151826195
are you mental? It was Mega/Demondrug if it was a hot drink you would have seen the icon for it instead of the atk up icon.

>>151826490
I misread your post, my bad.

>hunt for scales
>get gems instead

I don't even want to fully upgrade that weapon.

>>151826495
>i don't know how tropical hunter works
k

I call them Crapcom, lol.

>>151826464
Razor sharp, AuL, (HGE).

>>151826637
Not him, but, why HGE?

>>151826524
not that guy but it was a mega demondrug and yes he's using tropical hunter

i'm chink and 鬼人 are the characters for demon

>>151826094
It's hard to find people grinding out DLC past the day of release.

>>151826524
that doesn't change the fact that it was a Mega Demondrug and not a Hot Drink.

>>151826661
So you could land AED on the head during roars as Striker.

>>151826695
Try posting it in a turn lobby?

Unlocked turns

34-1192-9957-6258

I'm open to the possibility that I might be an incompetent, retarded baby here, but is there actually a foolproof way to deal with Garuga charging at you if your weapon can't block?

Obviously rolling to the right doesn't work, because his head slam is designed to punish that, so that's out.
But rolling to the left seems to end just as often with him stopping on a dime, turning toward where my roll ends, and doing the quick Kut-Ku pecks.

Rolling backward takes you out of range of at least the headslams (but maybe not the pecks), but it's just going to get your ass kicked if he decides to keep charging instead of stopping to peck.
Rolling forward, through him, also doesn't really seem to work, because if I roll soon enough to not get hit by the charge itself, he can stop on a dime and do a peck attack, which tends to land just after my i-frames are up (even with Adept/Evasion), and if I wait long enough to i-frame the pecks, I get nailed by the charge if he DOESN'T stop on a dime to peck.

Am I missing some sort of tell or pattern to what he'll do on a charge? Or is there a direction/window of time you can dodge in that isn't covered by one of the, like, four distinctly different things he seems to be able to do at any given point during his charge?

>>151825726
http://www.examiner.com/article/capcom-reveals-what-s-blocking-monster-hunter-portable-3rd-hd-ver-localization

>august 20th 2011
>talks still going for localization of p3rd hd

>august 25th 2011
>p3rd hd releases in japan

>september 12th 2011
>mh4 announced
>mh3g announced

>december 10th 2011
>mh3g released

Man if you want to believe that Capcom scrapped up MH3G in less than 6 months then be my guest. Something like MH4 and MH4G can be developed in tandem, and in fact they do that and they cut the game into vanilla and G release. But 3DS is a new hardware and is built on Tri.

Also Capcom would've mentioned a MH title in the April financial review if that title was meant for the PSP instead. But what happened was they kept everything quiet because saying that you have 1.2 million expectation for 2011's MH when P3rd sold close to 5 million would raise a lot of noise from investors.

And no even if Nintendo was the publisher for Europe and Australia, all profits would go to them. It's not paying out of good will, which doesn't exist in the business world. The localization was still done by Capcom.

A publisher pays money to a platform maker to publish their games on said platforms. It's called royalty and one of the main source of income for the platform makers. Of course being a patron of the platform means certain sets of rules and regulations. And lastly publishing decisions are made by the publishers, not the developers. If say Capcom USA got the directives to publish MHP3rd HD, then their would have gotten the funds to handle all publishing matters.

Fucking hell pick up a book. The idea that a bunch of developers being unprofessional about trophies when they are trying to sell their game on somebody else' platform is fucking absurd. But they seemed to be happy reaping the profits for 500k sales of MHP3rd HD in Japan didn't they?

>>151826917
>is there actually a foolproof way to deal with Garuga charging at you
Don't stand in front of her.

>>151826094
>whore suit has better skills than the actual iconic suit
I
HATE
ZERO
SUIT

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>Pictured GaijinHunter as the savior of the West, manly, broad chest, full tasteful beard
>He's an estrogen laden beta male
Fug.

>>151826959
I'm gay and even I love ZSS.
You're just... defective.

>>151826661
Don't listen to anyone that recommends HGE for anything. They're like the people that used evasion +2 or +3 in MH4U.

>>151826991
Yet he has a qt nipponese wife and daughter, and you don't.

>>151827038
I'm from a country where "beautiful" blonde girls are the biggest meme and they are all fucking disgusting.

>>151826824
You need like a million tickets per item.

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>>151826464 #
Load Up has always been skippable, especially now with the new hunter art.

Absolute essentials for impact CBs are Razor Sharp and Artillery Novice. I personally run that with AuM and Crit Eye+2.

Some say Crit is useless for CB because it doesn't modify your phial damage, however the bulk of your hits are in fact from your weapon and not phials. Especially against stuff that won't stay put, like Rajang. With that said, if you can squeeze RS on something like the Rathalos set, you can confidently walk around with WE and AuL and perform well.

If you're running elemental, I'd recommend going with whatever element +2 and possibly Focus/Mind's Eye if you want to keep spamming laser beams and UAEDs all day without worry.

CB's an odd weapon that benefits from almost every standard blademaster skill. Razor Sharp is a must. Attack Up and Artillery Novice increase your phial damage. Anything beyond that is personal preference.

>>151826958
You don't really have a choice in the matter when you're the only target on the field, unless you want to run around in circles for 20-30 seconds waiting for Garuga to start an attack with an animation long enough that you can move out of the way, and then get an attack in, and then be moving again by the time it turns to face you for the next attack.

>>151826958
>her
dumb monsterfucker

>>151826917
Never stay in front of his face, ever

Attack from the sides.

>>151826917
Always attack after monster attacks.

This should be in the fucking OP.

>>151827134
Load Up was reworked for CB.
It now lets you get 5 phials out of yellow.

>>151827135
>equip evasion+1
>hit and dodge through the 1 frame nonsense with practice
>or just use a gunner weapon and e a matador

>>151827195
To be honest, I still wouldn't use it over Hayabusa. It doesn't take too much effort to get red and I daresay it's easy to find yourself with excess charge when the hunt isn't going perfectly your way.

I do see the appeal. Maybe my opinion would change when I put it into practice.

>>151827128
Better to do it slowly than not at all.

So who the fuck is even Hero of Kokoto and why he's in charge when Jumbo chief founded the Kokoto village and is still alive?

>>151827135
If all you want is dodging its attacks, your best bet is to circle around clockwise. Because its beak attacks start at its left side/your right, so this way you are much less likely to get hit. You have to be ready for the tail swipe though.
But if you're speaking about the actual instant charge attack with fuckhuge hitbox that stretches out in front of it, even before the attack animation starts... well, there's no real way to avoid it if you're standing in front of it.

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>>151827134
>>151827195
>striker
>load up
>insight
>chance
>over limit III
>energy blade III
>mfw

>>151827391
http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/Kokoto_Village
>The village is led by the Kokoto Chief, a retired Wyverian hunter who achieved Legendary status for slaying a Monoblos with the Hero's Blade, hunted a Lao-Shan Lung alone, and slaying an unknown Elder Wyvern/Dragon with 3 other hunters after it killed his fiancée. He is also known as the "Hero of Kokoto"

I know /mhg/ hates kogath because frontier but come the fuck on.

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Why is Kutku so lewd?

Now that the dust has finally settled can we call agree MHG was mistake?

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Definitely far from the best skills I've had in a set, but it just looks so nice.

At least I can look forward to making it a bit better once I get a crit up +3 OOO charm

>>151828069
That's been generally agreed upon shortly after MHX came out.

>>151828069
Welcome to 8 months ago.

>>151828069
i don't know man, it was the first G game in the entire franchise

>>151828069
Nah, it's fun. Sorry you're a 4U baby who needs a carrot to play.
But they should have put in a little bit of a story so you unlock villages 1 by 1, not all at once.
And add less tickets you have to collect or make the courier collect them all for you.
Could've also brought back some monsters like Qurupeco and Barroth.

What if MH5 keeps the old monsters but gives them entirely new moves?

>>151828087
cringe

>>151827775
>over limit
>XL buildup
>monster is either dead or fleeing somewhere as soon as you pop it

Every fucking time

>>151827775
Don't forget hunter's drink and using a deviant weapon.

Looking at the skill, how does chance even work?

>>151828087
>Asta set
>good

>>151828217
One of the best looking sets, yes.

>>151828174
Just like what they were doing the past 12 years?

>>151828267
>Fashion hunter

>>151828216
When the monster is tripped, trapped, paralysed, sleeping, etc, your arts have increased effect. Not sure by how much though.

>>151826917
Try rolling under it's legs as he charges at you to get behind him. If he turns around, try to roll under and behind again because there's a likely chance he'll try pecking at you and will be be facing the wrong way if you time it right. You'll have 3 seconds to either

A: Get a few hits in
or
B: Run away and heal or something

Alternately, you can refer to >>151827429

>>151828304
Yeah. Problem?

>>151827901
>hero
>for hunting piss easy monoblos with crappy sns, soloing lao and hunting fatasslis or something in party like a scrub
why is my hunter not a living legend then

>>151828069
let's find out
http://www.strawpoll.me/10997183/
http://www.strawpoll.me/10997183/
http://www.strawpoll.me/10997183/

>>151828172
>needs a carrot

At least the option for a carrot is there. Find one complaint that isn't
>Apex is so cancer
>G rank hp is so bloated

Because not only is Apex fine, but standard G rank monsters die in minutes when you've gotten good.

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>>151828340
Asta is shit fashion hunter set tbqh.

Amatsu is the best looking set in this game. Tama's is 2nd best.

>>151828267
>marth/lucina armor will have tenderizer and crit boost while still looking like a boss
WHEN IS IT COMING

>>151828216
If the monster is tripped, stunned, trapped, or paralyzed it activates.
It's an arm skill that lasts for a minute when triggered and gives a 20% boost to art damage IIRC, boosts the duration of the buff arts by 20%, and adds a second spin immediately after the first to both Evasion Arts.

>>151827429
This is what I've been doing and it's generally seen the most success, but still doesn't seem to be foolproof.

For reference, the issue that I'm having is not shared by any version of Rathian/Rathalos, Kut-Ku, Gypceros, or any other gen-1 monster that uses that basic skeleton.

Dodging Rath charges is simple - just don't actually be TOUCHING their hitbox once their previous attack concludes, and you'll have plenty of room to dodge out of the way, and if you're using Adept or an Evasion skill, touching it is fine as long as you're rolling during the end of the previous attack. And if you can't go to one side, for some reason, any Evasion skill will also let you roll forward right through the charge and not even have to worry about it.

Kut-Ku and Gypceros are mostly the same, except they can cancel the charge into a peck, which makes forward rolls less safe for evasion skills. if KK/Gyppo cancel into the peck, then you're fine as long as you roll to one side, because the peck is always aimed straight forward, in the direction they were charging.

The problem with Garuga is that he seems to be able to cancel the charge into a peck that is turned clockwise from the direction he charged in, so that there's just a pile of angry beak waiting for me when I come out of my roll/iFrames.

It just doesn't seem like there's a 100% way to avoid sometimes getting hit by a charge, short of A) having a weapon that can block, B) playing super cautiously and just sheathing every time he isn't throwing fireballs or tripping and falling, or C) playing with Palicos or other players to take enough of the heat off of you that you don't care about being 100% foolproof. And I can't really say that I've found that to be true about any other monster, including most of the gen-1/2 crew that most people gripe about.

>>151828279
Modern rathian still has all the moves that gen1 rathian had.

>>151827986
>that face huntress makes
Hello M rating

>>151828429
It's alright. Gotta have more than one fashion set man, gotta have many dozens.

>>151828428
Apex is downright the worst addition to the series by a landslide.
More cancer than all the large elder dragons put together.

>>151828395
Because you've never hunted a Lao-Shan Lung

>>151828551
Apex > Hyper.

Come at me.

>>151828552
but what if i did? i even soloed fucking gog and his 18k hp with crap hitzones jesus it takes fucking forever

>>151828395
Not canon

>join HR lobby for narga cause I need some mats
>the other 3 are on a quest already
>ok shouldn't take long

>been waiting in the lobby for 10 mins now
>they're still not back

something tells me I should leave

>>151826013
What did he mean by this?

>>151828460
Monsters attacks are home into you to a degree, so in case of Garuga peck, don't roll until it actually starts the pecking animation. If you try to roll pre-emptively when it's still running in your direction, you're likely to get hit by the follow up attack.
Just walk around it clockwise as it closes the distance and get ready to dodge at any moment when the actual attack comes. What you're calling charge isn't the attack, and it's not cancelling it. It's just how the monster moves, it will always "cancel" it and follow up with an attack. The charge is when Garuga trips and falls over.

>>151826920
Examiner has shut down, that link is invalid.

I never even brought up the topic of trophies in the first place. I only mentioned the problem about making Ad Hoc Party work outside of Japan, it was you who brought up trophies out of nowhere and then the irrelevant spiel about publishers and developers.

I will admit that the timeline is a bit sketchy, although the discussion about the localisation of p3rd hd could have gone way before Christian Svensson even said something on Capcom Unity.

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>use apm to change some names
>can no longer resist other portions of the save editor
>edit in 100k zenny
It won't be long before I'm editing in charms like the cheating piece of shit I am

>>151828460
Hunted a ton of Garuga in 140GQs.

The trick is to expect one pivot hop and one move, it's not like a Rath that tends to pivot twice (unless it's doing the 3x charge).

The pecks aren't an opening because of tail spin and follow up pecks. Biggest is probably the tail flip.

He does a ton of chip so you can probably just trigger adept dodge often and stay clear preemptively. Exhaust works wonders on it too.

If you focus on just the beak you'll notice that your openings are during pivots, so that you're ending your animation as its about to attack. The stagger threshold is predictable too.

He doesn't hit like a truck compared to 140s. You can tank quite a few hits (read: more than 2).

>>151828569
Hypers are fought like a normal monster with some charged attacks and a chunk of extra health.
It's not brilliant, I'll grant you that.

Apex takes zero elemental damage and status unless you use an item that adds it to your attacks for a while.
You also bounce on the vast majority of hitzones. Zones that seem to be picked completely at random when they selected them. They didn't even pick the weak parts for some monsters, you bounce on Pickle's fucking belly. Of course you can use another item to stop the bouncing, but all those items have a timer and a recharge.

Bouncing is a way of telling you that "this zone shouldn't be hit usually because it's hard and takes shit damage", not "lol you now bounce here".
Giving element an extra kick while it's down is just adding insult to injury.

Adding subspecies attacks to the normal monsters is something I'm iffy about. I mean, that's what the subspecies are for, no?

>>151828936
At least you acknowledge that.
But that doesn't make you any less of a human trash.

>>151828936
this is why i'm not going anywhere near that

unless I don't get a good charm in the next couple hundred hours

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>>151829041
save me

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>Suddenly MH needs an "endgame" to keep people interested
???

Ok fuck me, I can no longer solo any fucking thing at hr 7 with my shitty low rank set. Any decent high rank sets for duals that won't require me to get boosted through deviants?

>>151829128
Toka

>MH Stories has amiibo support
kek
Give me all of them you fucker

>>151829103
>pic
What is that?
Pizza with plastic wrap?

>>151828929
>Ad Hoc Party work outside of Japan
But it did work? I downloaded if off the shop back in 2010 and even played some FU years later

>>151829298
There was an AHP update for MHP3rd.
Allowed you to launch the game from it, worked pretty well.

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>>151829236
I'm pretty sure it's molded up pizza. Maybe a month old

>>151829346
That's what happens when you don't degrease your pizza.

>>151828429
Yer shit, mate.

>>151828551
Explain.

>Apex encourages you to hit weak zones. I bet everyone knows Deviljho's by now and laughs at how "bloated" his hp is
>monsters hit hard when in Apex
>so you must learn to avoid it and exploit openings
>tension alleviated when Apex is down as the thrill of the hunt kicks in
>impending re-Apex as hunt progresses
>becomes a race to see if you can kill it before the re-Apex
>this means dps is important, so you should gear appropriately

Literally the all inclusive monster hunter experience. Everything else outside of Apex requires little to no thought put into hitzones, because you can get by without it.

There are few things more satisfying than knocking a monster out of Apex with a solid hit and hearing the music change as the monster squeals and topples.

Apex is only cancer when combined with a shit mechanic, like digging. That's it.

I'm a little peeved that there was no Apex Silver Rathalos. Not including maximum tears in 4U was a mistake.

Is there a better feeling than killing a monster with a hunter art?

>>151829168
cool, thank you, this looks to be a bitch to get but its exactly what I need

>>151829478
you can deal with mizu as a temporary measure

>>151829101
Even if we save you, you'd just edit it anyway

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>>151829443
Taking a bubblebath with Tamamitsune as you gentle stroke her fur.

>>151829410
>Apex encourages you to hit weak zones
Not when hit zones have the fucking apex bouncing, and you're forced to just hit the legs.
I like apex more than hyper too, but the nonsensical hitzone plating is definitely not one of its strengths. Apex was good because it expanded monster moveset.

>>151829236
It's pizza with a vegan cheese.

>>151829653
>her

>>151829410
>Apex encourages you to hit weak zones
And this is where you're wrong.
It fucking doesn't.
You wanna hit Pickle?
Either Drive up or hit the tail/legs. Hit the weak belly? Enjoy your bounce that not even Mind's Eye can change (which, y'know, would've made ME actually useful for the first time ever). And don't get me started on Zin's retarded zones.

Removing elemental damage and status damage, adding poorly chosen hitzones and bouncing that can only be stopped by an item created a cocktail of awful that wasn't fun at all.

Hyper tries something similar, but doesn't quite get it either.

Good challenging fights were the Super Brach and Hell Stiggy from 3U. Those kept you on your toes.

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>hunting dreadqueen rathian
>going great, only getting hit by chips for the first three or four minutes
>fuck up a block and get tailspinned into a wall
>camera goes nuts
>consecutive tailspin
>dizzy
>claws
>pinned
>killed before I can get up
somewhat distraught

>>151829443
No.
>critical juncture a monsters roar/charge/ tailswipe
>dead

>>151829653
Only males have red fins.
As if that would stop any of you

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>>151829653
stop

you want a female tama? comminsion a drawing of one with dull colors and small fins

that image isn't even a fucking tama you delusional twat

>>151829710
>fuck up a block and get tailspinned into a wall
>camera goes nuts
>consecutive tailspin
>dizzy
>claws
>pinned
>killed before I can get up
That must have been LR Dreadqueen. You'd die of AIDS from the first tailspin way before you'd get dizzy on high levels.

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>>151829861
yep, dreadqueen I
It was my first attempt

>>151829103
>and now I'm criticizing someone for wanting what was in the prior release

You know, GRank being gone is fine. They could've just imported the relic system and have been done with it, or added it to lvl X variants.

Capcom either didn't notice how much longevity it added, or ran the numbers and saw the hardcore population was a small %. Either way it could have been in and it was decided against it.

I repeat, they decided against adding it. For many this doubled the game's longevity and beyond. Why a dev would exclude a feature that does this is perplexing.

Anyone want to help me with unlocking R series armor by doing the shitty 30 coal quest and 3 Hyper Tetsu quest with me?

>>151830007
>everyone wanting to get carried through lmao3frog
Just kill them, dude

>>151830007
No.

>>151829745
French translation says Tamamitsune is a female.

>>151829971
>Defending the relic system

You need to off yourself

>>151830007
Coal quest is soloable.
So is Triple Tetsu.

>>151828929
This link is good too. It's about the same date.
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2011/08/21/sony-stalls-monster-hunter-portable-3rd-hd-localization-for-europe-and-north-america/
>They [SCEA and SCEE] have to make exceptions to approve this sort of project in the West: one that runs on PS3 but doesn’t have trophies or make use of regular PSN for online play… it uses a modification of adhoc party which doesn’t exist in the West.
>In short, it requires them to localize and launch SCEJ network services (which is development work and QA/support on their side) that don’t currently exist in either territory and a release it from the usual platform requirements for trophies, etc. It’s not trivial on Sony’s part.

>>151829298
>>151829343
AHP update to allow PSP remaster games on PS3 to use it for online play. Without it P3rd HD wouldn't be able to play any multiplayer in the west since the PSP version was not localized.

>>151830067
>French
go hon hon baguette flashbomb yourself

>>151830104
I never said it wasn't. But having 4 people mine in Area 1 for 3 seconds versus running around the Volcano for 15 minutes makes quite the difference in my boredom levels

>>151830167
That's an inspired post right there

>>151830209
Pardon..

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I'm late to the Hayabusa party.
I'm only at 2* and I already want to die.
Hold me, /mhg/.

>>151830090
>hating on the best endgame MH game ever had
kys yourself

Dos still has the best OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hc8ynC1SXU

>>151829654
>>151829693
I didn't elaborate.

After you learn the "Apex" weak zones you start to target the standard hitzones in a dps race. The goal of Apex was very clearly "you're used to hunting this way, now here, learn how to fight it differently for one minute."

It's essentially two fights in one.

Obvious oversight in explaining. Sorry. I didn't mean Apex weak zones were always the standard weak zones.

Also
>bouncing on Apex
Not only does that wystone last long, but you have 3 other hunters contributing. I only used it in conjunction with the element wystone on DBs to start a CC loop.

For every other weapon aside from Maybe HH, LS, and SnS, it was worthless. Because you shouldn't be targeting bounce zones due to low de-Apex contribution.

>Zinogre
Based break dance pup is an Apex saint.

I want to protect Armory & Smithy's *Smile*!

>>151830263
>Tigrex FOE.png

>>151829410
I sure loved having a mechanic that meant there was only one real viable endgame weapon unless you were running hame

>>151830310
Only if you like edgy tribal shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jP0AR5xoqM

>>151830284
>Garbage RNG Grind
>Best endgame MH ever had

???

>>151830263
just bear with it
it gets better after 3*

>>151830090
>not defending an optional roulette-based loot system that dropped the best weapons in the game, often for weapons you don't use, thus encouraging you to learn it

Did you ever make it past HR4 or did the game not have enough cuhrayzee to satisfy your ADD?

>>151830430
Infinitely better than garbage deviant grind.

>>151829971
The franchise is better off not cultivating a fanbase who measures "longevity" by the length of the game's gear progression, and as it is now the game is already dangerously heavily weighted toward the gear-and-stats side of the game (which is shit) rather than the action-based side of the game (which is the reason we don't jump ship to God Eater or Phantasy Star or whatever the fuck else shitty MH-clone just got released).

>>151830263
What are you complaining about, village quests you should have done dozens of hours ago? Kill yourself you carried shitter
>>151830372
>mmo garbage
get out

OK nerds, I wanna hear YOUR ideas. What kind of endgame would you like to see?

>>151830263
All this mixed set making and I'm still having a hard time fitting in Hayabusa. What do people use it on? Raw Crit boost sets?

>>151830520
Deviants are better fights than apex.

>>151827105
>qt wife

Literally never seen pictures of his wife. He hasn't posted one.

>>151830351
I can definitely imagine some of the lategame monsters as FOEs.
I wonder if my party can take the Hot Monkey Dick.

>>151830586
Tell that to Helicopter King.

>>151830618
Well, his wife's daughter is a qt, and she couldn't have inherited that from him, so it must be her mother's genes.

>>151826991
where do I see this picture?

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>>151830520
>Pick your poison

Relics are garbage
Deviants are garbage
Hyper Monsters are garbage
Apex Monsters are garbage

The best MH endgame was 3U where none of that trash was present and you just crafted your endgame stuff like everything else

>>151830557
>which is the reason we don't jump ship to God Eater or Phantasy Star or whatever the fuck else
Do you really need to "jump ship" to play these games?

>>151830575
Arena quests with single but really fucking powerful monsters. Grinding for gear just to grind for gear is cancer, endgame should be targets for this gear to show your skill upon.

>>151830359
There were two optimal endgame weapons for every weapon class at best, UNTIL you got relic drops. And you can hunt a specific skin.

Do you see my point now?

>>151830625
>Rajang FOE
>can randomly do multi-target bash attack
>or lethal lightning attack on the entire party
F U N

>>151830573
lmao no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqj_1YfRioI

>>151830726
This sounds good. Maybe make it so that you can't craft any gear out of these bosses too, but let them drop stuff like pale extracts, dash extracts, the endgame consumables that people use to speedrun.

>>151830347
With three other hunters it's rarely a "race", unless the others are retarded.
If a monster re-apexes more than once something's gone pretty wrong.
It's not so much a thrill as it's a rush to exploit the monster as quickly as possible to get it out of its bullshit state.
Solo it's goddamn terrifying. First de-apex is fine, second might work out, with your secondary stone, but if the fight lasts longer than that you're probably fucked.

They should've just upped the health/damage/defense modifiers for the higher monsters.
It'd lengthen the fight, making some monsters vastly more dangerous. Things like Blos or Ape just melt. They do serious damage, but rarely get the opportunity.
It'd also reduce the amount of trips and easy openings and keep the dangerous high damage.
Oh, and it wouldn't fuck over any elemental weapon something fierce.

I really hesitate to use this term, but Apex feels like artificial difficulty to me. Dramatically changing the way you fight for the worse. Seriously, if I compare Apex 140s to the Event Brach/Stiggy/Ivory from 3U, Apex feels like a lazy attempt at making things harder.

>>151830697
>Deviants are garbage
>Hyper Monsters are garbage
>Apex Monsters are garbage
>Relics are good
ftfy
There's literally nothing wrong with the relics. In Gen, when you've crafted Hellblade weapon and the silver hyabusa meme set you're done, the game is over.
Relics give you some incentive to continue hunting the hardest monsters in the game. Not only relics offer upgrade over craftable weapons in stats, they also let you choose the skin for that weapon. And let's not forget relic armor too.

>implying nargacuga medullas really exist

>>151830810
They should have gear the same type as current black belt - cosmetic, on the same level as actual endgame weapons but not excedd them, basically status gear "see i beat these shits, am i cool"

>>151830801
>terribly mixed
>completely thinned out orchestral soundtrack
>VST choir

Yeah no, this soundtrack is garbage.
I feel sorry for you that you can't actually tell how terrible this is

>>151830636
Which one?

>>151830727
yeah and the only one worth using was gs because apex mechanics made everything else pointless

>>151830575
Four tiers one you get past Low-Rank:

- First is normal High-Rank, pretty much as-is in MHG
- Second is High Rank, but with Arena rules; armor, skills, and items are predetermined per weapon type (but every weapon type is represented). You keep your outside gear cosmetically.
- Third is High-Rank, your armor, weapons, and items, but all armor skills are disabled.
- Fourth is same as the second, but the predetermined armor skills are all negative, and the only items you start with are all five Combo Books - you have to forage and combine everything you want to use in the hunt. You keep your outside gear cosmetically.

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>>151830575
>Deviants
>with relic grind
>at lvl X, get to choose what weapon bias drops
>maps cycle (like the three or so during the grind to lvl X) adding variety and varying comfort levels
>so essentially you choose your monster, your bias and to an extent your map, so it's not all Rajang on flat maps only
>some sort of relic trade-in system, possibly like talisman melding
>as well as skin importing
>so that perfect relic with a shitty skin can change into your desired skin after trading in a large amount of those relic skins.

There I fixed monster hunter and made the relic grind slightly less grindy.

>>151830956
GS, Duals, HBG.
Gun was king at removing Apex, though getting oneshot by half the attacks is pretty harrowing.
Status Duals were hilariously overpowered.
GS is GS.

>>151830930
lmao no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdXcOv9pCNI

>>151830618
>>151830679
His wife left him as far as I know.

>>151828936
Why would you care about minor things like that? Editing charms is still tolerable, because the process of getting them doesn't make you 'git gud'. As long as you don't edit armor/weapons, everything is okay.

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>>151830689

>>151830862
>In Gen, when you've crafted Hellblade weapon and the silver hyabusa meme set you're done, the game is over.
t. 4u babby

some people actually enjoy the hunting part of the game

>>151831085
>Getting oneshot by half the attacks
>half the attacks
Gunners with ~450 defense would die to trample damage. You needed nearly 530 to not get OHKO'd by Garuga's insta-charge, and that's not even technically an attack.

>>151831234
Damn, so he's the reason it got translated.

>>151830067
>French translation
not canon

>>151831240
Unless it's the best weapon with the best armor it's obviously not worth using or making.

Some people really think like that.

>>151831341
Yeah, and petitions are the reason PC gamers are getting games.

Oh wait

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>>151831234

>>151831306
Eh, when not frenzied or apex you could take one hit or so.
Pickle's shockwave from the stomp, a thrown rock from Basarios (not the charge, which has killed me way, way too often).
Also
>fighting 140 Garuga
For what purpose?
And the charge deals more damage than any of his attacks. Still does.

Fuck Garuga.

If I make a set with elemental and the amatsu LBG that rapid fires all elements except dragon will that be a good all rounder set? I use almost all of the weapons so my equipment pages are getting clogged with sets for weapons and then specialized sets for the styles. I just really don't want to go make 5 different element atk up sets for 5 different LBGs. I've got so much shit already that I sometimes need to sell items and equipment from my box and that thing has 14 pages.

>>151830956
GS was reliant on good crowd control and amor skill stacking. Feel free to bring 4x GS to Apex Zinogre, Diablos, Tigrex, or even Seregios and tell me how smoothe your hunt goes.

Yes, GS was great for Rajang. And unless you were hunting with nerds that auto kicked if you didn't bring GS, then every weapon was viable against Rajang.

>>151831206
editing armor and weapons would pretty much ruin the entire point of the games

>>151826991
>expecting a plebbitor gamurr to not be a beta cuck
>thinks beard is not a sign of a faggot

>>151831525
>then every weapon was viable against Rajang
Hammer was here, 4U hated my guts.

Bringing impact against Rajang is like punching yourself in the ball. 50% KO damage to the head, cutting weapons deal more damage everywhere, arms always in the goddamn way.

HH probably got shafted even harder, but nobody seems to care about it.

>>151831525
>Apex Zinogre, Diablos, Tigrex, or even Seregios
Did those hunts with /mhg/ and the hardest one among those ones is tiggy because he will waste everyone's wystone from constantly running and ziggy doing his backflips out of nowhere causing random carts

>>151825780
How do I get good with DS/DB?

>>151831506
Make a standardized elemental set, and then just swap the charm out when you swap from weapon to weapon.

I'm running Elemental Attack Up, Bonus Shot, and have enough spare slots that with a good [Element] Attack charm I can fit any of the 5 elements onto it. EAU+BS+E+2 is about as good as you'll get without a god charm, and the EAU+BS set is an easy template to make.

Short list of "best" elemental guns:
Thunder: Thunderclaw (TL Zinogre) [or Astalos Shocker]
Fire: Dreadking's Bane [or Rathling Phoenix]
Ice: Icesteel Hornet, but it doesn't matter since Stonefist is the ONLY target in the game where Freeze S is relevant to my knowledge
Water: Nifl Mist (Tama/Mizu)
Dragon: Doomgun "Dementia" / Diregun "Dementia"

Things get more complicated when you add internal ammo into the mix, but that's probably not necessary for you to know since you're not a hardcore LBG main.

>>151831240
t. Gen babby

I've been enjoying the hunting part of the game for years. Fighting the same all monster over and over again isn't rewarding enough to put more hours into the game after I've "beaten" it, if there are no more substantial rewards.

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>>151831080
YES. FUND IT

>>151831772
SPIN
2
WIN

>>151831772
Press buttons.

Learn how to manage stamina/archdemon gauge. Remember that stamina won't start rising until you've stopped attacking after it runs out, keep an eye on just much stamina you have left and try to keep enough for at least one dodge. Evade+ skills don't work for the dashes, IIRC.
Don't spam the demon dance, you can press start (assuming start is your 'special attack' button) to spin2win even when demonized. Spinning is great as a whole.
With adept you turn into a blender. An immortal blender.

>>151831820
>Relics were good because it wasn't fighting the same monster over and over again
What
the
fuck
did
I
just
read?

>>151831949
Clearly what you just read wasn't the entire post you're replying to.

>>151832036
The teensy tiny chance at a decent relic counts as a "substantial reward" to you?

>>151831664
Hammer was inherently disruptive, but ace on fights like Teostra. The KO is clutch. It really is up to the user to be aware of other hunters and got upswing hitbox, and hammer attracted people who just wanted to bash heads and yell at people for not giving them space. Which was stupid, because that hitzone was almost always best for dps...which other weapons often did better.

But your point about hammers and Rajang: I often brought HH when a hammer user was present and marveled at the inevitable KO. With the amount of trapping/paralyzing/toppling that was constant with Rajang, it was easy.

But I did hunt him 1000x so there's that.

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>playing online
>some db faggot with an edgy name who keeps tripping 3 people on my squad
>he shouts 10 TH DEMON GATE... OPEN!!!! when he uses wolfs maw


lol demon faggots

>>151831664
HH has a pretty small following, but it's also really vocal.
t. hhfag

>>151832103
Only the "perfect" relics have a teensy tiny chance. Decent relics that are straight upgrades over the best crafted weapon types were not uncommon. And it's still infinitely better than 0% chance of obtaining something better than you currently have in a game limited to crafted equipment only.

>>151832184
I don't know about vocal, but they're definitely musical ~~~

>>151831815
Best thunder is Parasol for RF pierce 2 and Khezu for general thunder shots.

Rathling phoenix is ok until hyper metal raths gets released, then it's inferior to both silver semi-auto and prosperity

Daora is a good gun, but Zamtrios is also an option because it can RF both ice pierce 1 and 2. Also, najarala and teo takes decent ice damage.

>>151832278
Why Khezu over the Arm Cannon? What about Freeze S?

>>151831815
For Elemental Pierce guns:
Thunder: Elegant Parasol
Fire: Gold/Silver Semi-Auto
Ice: Jawbreaker
Water: Nebula Storm
Dragon ammo is severely limited, and is really only supplementary to whatever else your gun has.

>>151832242
>not singing while doing your toot toots
scrub detected

>>151832162
It was literally only good on Teo.
On every other 140 it was basically dead weight.
Monsters were too fast, hits would hit the arms, the neck or anything but the head for no good reason and fucking elevation. Hammer did not have a good time in 4U.
The fact that you talk about a single KO in a fight with two impact users and trap/para/topple spam just illustrates how bad it had it. At least in Gen it got some glory back.
The amount of HH users in 4U that I've seen can probably be counted on one hand and I don't think I've seen more than two in a 140 quest ever.

>>151832213
>People are unironically claiming the relic system wasn't complete shit
Jesus christ people have such short memories.

>>151832278
>Khezu for general thunder shots
No.
>Silver Semi-Auto and Prosperity
I remember looking at those and being disparaged by their recoil on rapid fire shots. I suppose RF P.Flaming might be decent on Chameleos, but often with Flaming S you want pin-point targeting, such as on Hermitaur or Ceanataur.

>>151832329
I'd argue that Nifl Mist is the better P.Water gun, since it loads a healthy amount of P.Water 1 and 2 as well as both other water shots.

Jawbreaker is irrelevant because the monsters that are weak to ice aren't weak to elemental damage enough for you to bother (as far as I'm aware).

Dragon ammo is sufficient for you to clear any dragon weak monster that isn't a massive HP sponge. 13 shots on rapid fire and 5 internal shots goes a surprisingly long way.

>>151832103
It was still that chance of "better than craftable" that made it appealing. Max raw DBs with paralysis and slots, and 40 purple after S+1?

You know all those TAs where people are all like "this weapons kill times beats that weapon's."? You know that relic weapons weren't allowed and that perfect relic weapons could be a 10-15% increase in dps? Especially if if had slots or freed up an armor a lot thanks to relic jewels.

It's just nice.

>>151832487
>I'd argue that Nifl Mist is the better P.Water gun, since it loads a healthy amount of P.Water 1 and 2 as well as both other water shots
As someone who did a decent chunk of Crystalbeards yesterday, I'm gonna have to disagree, at least in terms of pure water damage.
Because RF W Pierce 2 is bonkers, even with the awful, awful wait time.

Where are the rooms at?

>>151832329
What are the ones for rapid S shots?

>we clearly want to cut the tail
>switchaxe guy in party only goes for the head, never attacks the tail

???

>>151832487
I've listed multiple pros relics had in my posts. All you do is posting your shitty opinions, trying to fit in with the other kids who only want instant gratification in their games. And faced with a chance of obtaining something they want less than 100% throw a tantrum and call it "RNG bullshit".

>>151832741
maybe he had a impact phial to stun it?
three people on the tail should be enough.

>>151832741
This is the problem with the WE/Crit Boost combo being as good as it is. If you attack anything other than the weakspot, you're wasting 2 armor skills.

>>151832850
Yeah, too bad it was 3 people on the head and only me on the tail

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>tfw finally made hellblade armor
>tfw have to upgrade it to lvl6 to make it useful

I've never felt so heartbroken playing mon-hun

>>151832589
Nifl Mist has a larger overall capacity to deal Water damage, and deals it more reliably.

In niche cases where you have a monster that's elementally weak all over its body, like Agna or Ura, Nebula Storm will do more damage in a vaccuum. It's really hard to make an argument for a moderate increase in DPS and a massive tradeoff in usability.

Nebula Storm has good status shots as well, I guess.

>>151832741
my deeps
my kill time
etc

Monster Hunter turns into a shit game real fast when people start treating it like an MMO and worrying about "optimization" and "progression"

>>151832213
agreed, sounds like other dude is just being nitpicky as fuck.
>m-muh old gens!
i feel deviants (without the level shit) and relics are great.
hybrid when?

>>151832487
only the armor skills and apex monsters were shit
most just hunted armor for fashion though
the weapon themselves were better than crafted 99% of the time. added customization isn't a bad thing. you're just being a dumbshit.

>>151832629
when you stop being lazy and make one

>>151832741
if you had 3 others, then i dont see the problem

>>151832850
>impact phial
gross

>>151832828
he just wants those (You)s

>>151832301
Arm Cannon only has thunder pierce 2 for internal

Khezu has both thunder pierce 2 and 1, with more bullets.

>>151832487
Khezu is better than both zin and astalos gun

rf thunder 1, good thunder pierce 2 and 1 internal clip.

Both Thunderlord and normal Zin only have thunder pierce 2, worthless.

Astalos have thunder pierce 2 and thunder 2, and thunder 2 is worse than thunder pierce 1.


Also, Rapid Fire does not run on recoil, it runs on Wait, so recoil on the silver rath gun doesn't matter, and you can attach the silencer on Prosperity for it to shoot fire pierce with no recoil

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>Fighting Teostra solo
>Instant charge while I'm whaling on it's leg
IT'S NOT FUNNY ANYMORE!

>>151832942
But you use Parasol for thunder pierce on larger targets. What LBG would you use for smaller enemies with less thunder hitzones?

>>151832949
>a great elder dragon with mastery of fire element
>his most threatening attack is gently bumping into you

>>151832949
Stay on the sides of his cute tummy

>>151832828
Listen honey bunchkin, I dislike relics because they were an ethereal goal in a game that didn't need them, and they made the end-game incredibly boring as it became "rape ape in the least shitty randomly generated map you can find".

Once upon a time, Rajang was a cool monster to me. Now it's a meat sack with a low probably to give me something that's barely usable over my current weapon.

Deviants give me a clear goal and a definitive direction. Relics are just a gamble.

>>151832741
>we clearly want to cut the tail
But did you say you want? Or was he supposed to read your mind?

>>151832487
>relic system is shit
I will argue that it's better than the "deliver 1 coal at a time" endgame and super brief deviant grind. The option was just neat.

The payout was always small. Or sometimes it was huge. RNG is always a flawed system, but having it in the game did wonders for fashion hunting and min/max hunters. It also compelled people to hunt the same tough monsters over and over again, making them learn the fight. At a point that carries over into how you approach other fights. And I can guarantee you it made Rajang a joke in Gen for many (although his HR iteration always had waaaay fewer openings than Apex).

>>151832741
Switchaxes aren't on tail duty you fucking cuck. Don't tell the strongest weapon in the game what to do.

>>151832898
That armor isn't useful even at level 10. Heavy polish isn't all that great, divine blessing is meh, and there aren't many weapons that get a huge benefit from S+2. If you like the looks then go for it anyway. I use drilltusk armor with charge blades just because it looks good.

Mushroom Hunter Generations

>>151833178
Rathalos Hunter Generations

>>151833173
Thanks for the advice anon

>>151832898
upgrading is pretty easy for the armor, they have no fucking requirements for material besides the tickets, so kill it 3 times per each rank and you'll have enough for the full set upgrades and a weapon
its what i did for grimclaw and grimclaw hammer, the best set for hammers in a longtime without being a clownsuitin peasant

>>151830937
Dreadking Rathalos of course

>>151833016
ALL the notable monsters that are weak to thunder have long skeletons for pierce, the Raths, Jho, Tiggy, Narga, Steve, Kush...

Khezu is the safer option for solo because it has more bullets and it doesn't lock you into place with RF like Parasol.

Parasol is still insanely good for cheesing thunder weak monsters, no doubt about that.

>>151833129
Combine both.

I posted this, and I'm not sure I can find a flaw

>>151831080
u rike

>>151832881
Play with friends and say you need tail if anyone minds helping/ doing it
that's if you had any tho :^)

>>151833254
Hellblade set is different because it requires 5 Powders.

>>151833254
What? Did you just say Grimclaw is the best set for hammers?

>>151832942
What you're saying makes no sense to me. The whole point of using the Khezu and Astalos guns over Angelic Parasol is for smaller monsters with few/one thunder weakspots. Which means you dont really need or want a gun based around thunder pierce 2. Astalos has a larger magazine than Khezu for thunder rapid S, the same magazine for Pierce Thunder S1. It has slightly worse recoil but thats not important with rapid.

>>151832936
>only the armor skills and apex monsters were shit
Both were fine.
>Most just hunted armour for fashion
Bullshit
>Better than crafted 99% of the time
Bullshit
>Added customization
That is not customization

>>151832942
>Khezu is better than both TL Zin and Astalos
I just checked, and yes I agree that the Khezu gun is better than the Astalos gun. However, the TL Zin gun is better on targets that aren't susceptible to P.Thunder, and Elegant Parasol is better on targets that are. Khezu is outclassed in both cases, and is only nichely good when you need a gun that handles both, which is... never, since Elegant Parasol is a competent Thunder S lvl 1 gun as well.

>TL has thunder pierce 2
It does not. It is not a P.Thunder gun.

>RF runs on Wait, not recoil
Splitting hairs. The "wait" on the metal rath guns for Flaming Lvl 1 makes them worse than Dreadking's Bane. They can RF P.Fire, which *might* give them a use.

>>151833375
If not Grimclaw, then what is the best set (deviant or otherwise) for hammer?

>>151833129
>they were an ethereal goal in a game that didn't need them
YOU didn't need them. But nobody forced you to do GQs. It's post-game. There's nothing to use perfect relics on other than more GQs. You could've just shelf the game after getting the best crafted gear, just like you will with Gen. Except 4U added an OPTION for people who wanted to prolong the game's lifespan. And relics did this job well.
Apex and semi-randomized forest, which could've resulted in very shitty map layouts, are a different story. But relic gear, as a concept, was great.
For example, imagine a randomized (hyper and or deviant) monster hunt-a-thon in MHX which rewards randomized relic weapons. It gives you motivation to hunt, it offers more core gameplay, and it isn't focused on grinding the same monster for the best possible rewards.

Do you have to do the arts unlock quests in order?

Or can you unlock, say [art] III after only having the I version of it and skipping II?

>>151833462
Either mix or Dreadking.
How the fuck did you even consider a set with Crit Draw as "best for hammer"? Other than HGE it's not very hammer-like at all.
I mean, you can do things with it, but it's more silly than anything.

>>151833169
>Brief Deviant grind
5 hours to make a full set of Deviant gear. 12 Deviants in total. Minimum of 60 hours of hunting just to make the armour sets, completely ignoring the weapons and time spent actually using the armour to hunt other things.

>charm farming exploit is endgame content
u wot m9 ?

>>151833507
You don't have to unlock I or II before III.

>>151833375
partbreaker crit draw and hg earplugs are fucking great for free headsmashing fun. im exaggerating but it looks fucking amazing and its set bonuses are great for hammers. speed eatings nice for life powdering when your friend is about to get shit on too. im sure theirs some clown suit thats far better or some peasant tier ugly low armor value, low rarity set that looks like ass thats good for hammers too.
but its fashion and skills make it the best fuck you nerd fight me

wudda gud full set for hbg???

>>151832629
Check discord. /mhg/ is for shitposting, if you want to hunt, go to discord.

>>151833254
Dreadking shits on Grimclaw. HGE, weakness exploit, wind resist high, and attack up L. Dreadking shits on a lot of things. It feels like they made most of the armor shit on purpose just so they can keep forcing raths on us. Dreadking set looks like shit, too. It's just normal rathalos armor with an edgelord flame design cape attached to it.

>>151833391
>>151833423
My reasoning is here >>151833278

What monsters are there that's even worth using normal thunder on rather than pierce thunder anyway?

>>151833465
Shame that the normal G Rank quests in 4U were fucking garbage as a trade-off.

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MH5/5TH GEN GAMES IDEAS GO

>theme is dynamic environment
>open world
>day night cycle of course
>weathers that include snowstorm and heavy rain
>environment hazards like thunder and avalanche
>snow and mud slowing you down, slippery wet rocks and ice, etc.
>monsters digging will change the ground, can break down tress, etc.
>mounts
>mounted combat
>caravan that go with you into the wild along with some stamina limit system
>large docile herbivores that are actually tough
>story AI hunters
>ancient powered armor
>vengeance system, certain tough monsters can run away and will always prey after you in future hunts
>random NPC hunters you can help in the wild

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>Out of Flashbombs and it's been 30 minutes since Silver Rathalos has touched the ground for more than 10 seconds
>Lands
>Turns around
>Immediately goes into the air again

Fuck this garbage Monste. All iterations of it. I'm done. Fuck honor, i'm done ever soloing a Rathalos again, unless it's village. It's not fun, it's just boring and obnoxious. It's not even hard. It's just a gigantic pile of garbage and a waste of my time

>>151833278
Long skeletons =/= good thunder hitzones

>>151833542
>MIX
clown suiter detected. everything you say from here on in is invalid.
also partbreaker is fucking 20/10 for hammers, and crit draw is pretty damn good for hammers to put hammer away and book it to head for free 100% affinity.
if you don't believe crit draw is great on hammer you're retarded

>>151833578
>full set
Akantor seems okay.
Why not just grab Athena's ASS, though?

>>151833578
Akantor R.

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>>151833581
>if you want to hunt, go to discord.
>still no linux build

>>151833629
>>open world
Stopped reading right there.

>>151833550
>5 hours to make a full set of Deviant gear. 12 Deviants in total. Minimum of 60 hours of hunting just to make the armour sets
But only one and a half deviant sets are worth using.
>completely ignoring the weapons
You can make the weapons with the surplus tickets you get from making an armor set. You get 2 tickets per quest, 1 ticket per armor piece, so 3 quests for a full set, 1 extra ticket for the weapon.
>time spent actually using the armour to hunt other things.
What things? There's no endgame after that.

>>151833629
Why the fuck are you doing this?
What's the point of posting your fucking ideas on some chinese cartoon board on the internet? Why are you wasting your time with this? Noone who matters will ever read it. MH5 is going to be MH5 no matter whether you post this garbage or not. So why are you wasting your time. Just why?

And now you wasted my fucking time too, because you triggered me with your trash.

>>151833629
>MH5
>The world is procedurally generated
All right, guys. Have fun with the rest of the ideas.

>all generations thus far have included three games
>MH, MHG, MHF
>MH2, MHF2, MHFU
>MHTri, MHP3rd, MH3U
>MH4, MH4U, MHGen
Why exactly do some people still believe that there will be an ultimate version of Generations?

>>151833631
your own fault for not using glaive
>>151833687
use wine or something
also marm a shit

>>151833610
Bulldrome, Hermitaur, MAYBE Seregios.

>>151833590
its so fucking ugly and attack up l is hyped too much, plus i've faught enough rath in my life to farm dreadking for a slightly better then grimclaw suit that looks far uglier

>>151833465
>You could've just shelved the game after getting the best crafted gear, just like you will with Gen
Gen is going to be the first MH game I complete to 100%, including obtaining all gold crowns.

Don't put words in my mouth. I'm enjoying playing MHGen, especially since I can *complete* an end-game set. I'm not shackled to one weapon type that's good against Monkey for all eternity.

>>151833621
They're pretty much the same as quests on LR/HR, just with tougher monsters and new movesets. Did you expect something drastically different from G-rank quests compared to their HR counterparts?

>>151833662
Weakness Exploit is considered top-tier for hammer.

I'd posit that Crit Draw is good for taking advantage of small openings (roars/recovery animations/staggers), while Weakness Exploit helps maximize damage when the monster is downed/trapped/KO'd/paralyzed (which is where most of your damage comes from anyway).

>>151833730
His ideas are stupid, but what the fuck is wrong with talking about a video game in the general for that video game?

It's the same as talking about pokemon types you'd like to see in the future, or what you want the next TES game to have etc.

You seem very autistic

>>151833423
>inflated hp and with bounce mechanics
at least deviants actually changed the moves and fight a bit
>bullshit
but its true? just because you say people didn't, doesn't make it true. literally everyone hunter Rebellion for the looks.
>bullshit
see >>151832534
it want uncommon to get better relic weapons, not even counting minmaxing stats
>That is not customization
changing the way something looked isn't customization? including different stats and skills?
that's literally what customization is.
>literally talking out your ass the whole argument
it's clear you didn't play 4U
kindly fuck off

>>151833761
Retarded /v/ kids and their denial. It's really obvious capcom doesn't want meme rank in Gen, and won't be making another MH game for 3ds when NX will be out soon

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>Oh hey, this armor looks neat!
>SKILLS: DIE FASTER LMAO
>Scroll to Rath Armor
>SKILLS: GOD OF DESTRUCTION, GOD OF DEATH, UNKILLABLE, BIG DICK

Gettin really fucking tired of all the Rath dick sucking, even to the point of making all other armors shit, just to force people to make Rath armor

>>151833662
>and crit draw is pretty damn good for hammers to put hammer away and book it to head for free 100% affinity.
You have to be baiting here, nobody can be this bad at hammer.
Draw attack has a MV of 20.
The only, niche, use of Crit Draw is drawing into a charge and work with that, but it's slow and unwieldy.
Partbreaker is okay, but hardly worth going out of your way for.

>>151833823
I wanted more marathons and multi-monster quests, like in FU, P3rd and 3U. All I got were quests with one monster.

>>151833507
Nope, you can skip. I had a I and III or something.

>>151833774
So two easy as shit monsters and one who moves fast enough that you can't reliably aim for its thunder weakpoints anyway.

Also, Stonefist is big enough for thunder pierce to procs most shots off.

>>151833831
How is talking about new concepts you came up with that haven't been in the video game series, and aren't applied to any game in the series whatsoever "talking about the video game?" it's just fan fiction. There is no talk about the video game here. Video games exist, and what content they have is already predetermined the moment they finish development. What's the point of talking about something that isn't actually part of the game? That's not talking about the game. That's just writing random garbage.

>>151833629
>open world
>snowstorms
>environment hazards
>slow down enviro shit
>mounts and mounted combat
>stamina limit system
>story ai hunters
>powered armor
>monsters can run away
>random hunters help you
Holy fuck you're retarded and should never become a game developer, all of this trash would ruin the game.

>>151833610
>What monsters are there that's even worth using normal thunder on rather than pierce thunder anyway?
Hermitaur
Mizutsune
Duramboros
Nargacuga
Silverwind Nargacuga
Dreadqueen Rathian
Gold Rathian
Dreadking Rathalos
Seregios
Ukanlos

>>151833930
It's so dumb that Punishing Draw doesn't work for Hammer too

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I just want MH3U for the 3ds...when will it be on sale again?
Never played it but I played Tri and it was better than any of these games with shitty frenzy-like gimmicks.

Why do I live in Europe?

>>151833662
Partbreaker isn't a great skill. You're destroying weak points faster without dealing more damage to the monster, so you're guaranteeing wing breaks/horn breaks but increasing your overall kill time.

>>151833930
Meh, honestly, I don't see much differences between a single monster and a multi-monster hunt.
Only event quests with huge/tiny monsters are distinctly different from the regular ones.

>>151833869
t. i don't know anything about why monster hunter is on handheld in the first place kill me i'm retarded and have to spout garbage in this general

>>151834026
Yep, you are legitimately the most autistic person on all of 4chan at this moment.

>>151834070
You can download it for free, you know?

>>151833423
>Nuh uh, nuh uh, nuh uh!
The post.

You must be 18+ to use 4chan.

>>151833542
I use a clown suit for HGE and Weakness Exploit. Wish I could find room for Crit Up.

>>151833835
>It wasn't uncommon to get better relics
As someone that spent over 500 hours playing 4U's endgame, yeah no it was a fucking tiny chance to get a better relic weapon.
>How is that not customization?
Because you have no control over it.

>It's clear you didn't play 4U
See above

>>151834121
t. i can't say anything in response and memespout instead
fuck off back to /v/ kiddo

>>151834032
Nearly everything on that list lends itself to multiple weakzones that are made for thunder pierce. Pierce through the wings or through the head and spine is going to be higher than rapid S for the raths.

>>151834173
>Reason equals Autism

Tell me more

>>151834075
>kill time
oooh now i get it you're all the muh deeps types and killing a monster 2 minutes faster is all that matters to you, instead of looking good, having fun instead of worrying about setting some dumbass record for speed kills and still having a half decent set to /fa/ it up with your friends, but you probably don't have those

>>151834026
jesus christ dude, it's just a bit of fun

>>151833761
People are bad at pattern recognition, especially when the thing that they want to happen is not part of that pattern.

>>151833550
I don't know about you, but leveling past lvl 6 is unnecessary unless you really need the defense padding. I managed to get DreadKing armor to level 8-9, and I have never posted the quest or sought a DK room. So I wouldn't call it a 6 hour grind. Even so, 6 hours in MH is nothing.

MH turns rooms tend to reward you for hunting, even when you're just posting to unlock some random shit.

>>151833930
>Draw attack has a MV of 20.
I'm a different anon and I do not advocate crit draw on a hammer, but drawing into a charge causes your charged attacks to have 100% crit chance. Yes, all of them.

Unless they've changed it since 3U.

>>151834032
>Hermitaur

Big enough for pierce to outdamage thunder 2.

>Duramboros
Weak to fire.

>Mizutsune
>Nargacuga
>Silverwind Nargacuga
>Dreadqueen Rathian
>Gold Rathian
>Dreadking Rathalos
>Seregios
>Ukanlos

ALL of these are perfect for pierce, you moron.

>>151833835
>at least deviants actually changed the moves and fight a bit
>implying non-apex Rajang had a mountain throw out of a failed grab
>implying non-apex Jho had a ranged shockwave stomp
>implying non-apex Zinogre had tracking deathball bugs
I could go on but don't imply that deviants are anything but rebranded apex monsters without bouncing.

>>151834278
>fun
>those retarded suggestions
just get away from monster hunter. and next time when you have retarded thoughts like these, for any game, don't bring them up.

>random joins my lonely drilltusk hall
>hr22
>spams akantor plz over and over
>post agnaktor
>he falls for it
>we depart
>disconnects as soon as he sees agnaktor

>>151834254
Do whatever you want dude, just stop shitposting false information. I could give 2 cunts less how you play the game.

>>151834254
Lets break down how this argument went through our sponsored replay.

>Guys these skills are amazing for hammer!
>No they arent, nobody plays hammer like a greatsword and partbreaker is completely unnecessary plus you'll have worse kill times.
>Well at least im having FUN ITS JUST A GAME MAN CHILL

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>>151834029
Nothing new in the industry

Toukiden 2 did open world hunting
MHO did snowstorms and avalanches
MHO did slow down mud status
Mounts depending on implementation can be new
Caravan stamina limit is for realism and many games do this
Story AI hunters are in MHO and Frontier
Powered armors in nothing fancy in MH lore
Monsters can run away is from 2nd gen true elder dragons
Random hunters you can help is from Toukiden 2

So previous thread said ele LBG doesn't benefit at all from crit. Is it true? Why?

Is there any other weapons that are affected weirdly by crit in this way?

>New UDON-YA MH has been scanned already
The chinks and gooks sure work fast

>>151834381
He probably ended up powersaving

>>151833687
>not phone posting on discord

There's an app for that

>>151834467
too bad it's shit

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>>151834415
>MHO did slow down mud status

>>151834467
Literally nothing, the sequel.

>>151834207
No I can't. My n3ds XL has version 11+ of the firmware. I do have my o3ds cracked but playing MH with not even the nub and with a smaller screen sucks.

Shit sucks.

>>151834415
>wanting this game to be like otukiden 2 and mho, 2 garbage games
>wanting mounts when you're supposed to be killing goddamned monsters
>somehow bringing powered armors back from the past when its known that making them is not possible anymore, and all they are anyways is armor that makes you stronger which effects do anyways
bite the bullet please.

>>151834232
>Nearly everything on that list lends itself to multiple weakzones that are made for thunder pierce
Oh, is that so? We must be looking at a very different Seregios, one that doesn't take 2.5x more thunder damage to the face than to the belly.

Ukanlos is the biggest contender for "better target for P.Thunder", but I prefer being able to stagger lock it with shots to the wrist.

>>151834340
>Hermitaur
Trick question, you actually use Flaming S on Hermitaur.

>Duramboros is weak to fire
His horns say otherwise.

>ALL of these are perfect for Pierce
Look at their hitzones and tell me that again. Mizu's claws take TRIPLE the thunder damage that most of the rest of its body takes.

Just because a monster has a body type that's conducive to Pierce does NOT mean they are weak to it. Hitzones are important, friendo.

>>151834458
Are you a genbabby?

Crit never affects element unless you're using Crit Element.

>>151834507
Not the same snowman status.

>>151833581
How about, no?