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Rank 8 Clerics: https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=573
Weekly Q&A: https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=574
Patch Notes:https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=580
Soon https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=579

Previous: >>151715202

>Can I play the game now?
YES YOU CAN (Get it on steam)! Rank 8 Soon™

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd

This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>Fweequently Asked Questions:
http://pastebin.com/EKj7gY7C

>Add-ons:
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
http://pastebin.com/PrCkZ21n

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vaivora (바이보라)
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)
you're all cucks

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
Clover (Karga)
Database (Cattly)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
FOE (Jinsae)
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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>>151800419
MASTER of pressing the link key.
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Does the brandish bonus to large monsters also count for bosses? Since they're counted as X-Large
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>>151800419
fucking cancerous linkerfags
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>>151800419
All linkers need to be banned from TBL. I'd rather play against 3 kabbalist oracles every match than one linker.
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>>151800419
Linker is really fun to play currently

It's probably gonna stay for a while like this since IMC hasnt even acknowledged this problem
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>>151800468
I believe so. There's a 2h spear that deals extra hits to large mobs and it does work on bosses too.
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Post capybas
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>>151800679
mememia mia...
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>>151800649
Nice


Time to farm brandish recipe for years
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>>151800419
literal autist playing a bugged class and queuing all 4 hours a day

looking forward to watch you climb top 50 whenever imc bothers fixing linkers
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Database is recruiting brand new friends! We're a small guild, always looking for new /tosg/ friends. I have interest in PVP, but we're far too small for that at the moment. As soon as we have players, I will host the guild events but my current priority is helping out members in any way I can!
Whisper Cattly for an invite!
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Is this yours too?
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>>151801260
No. mine is where you can't enter normally and can't enter through queue.
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>>151800998
>playing 4 hours a day is bad
Wow. tell me more about your autism.
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>>151801452
But that's exactly what has just happened to me!
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>>151801021
>he deleted his post just to add his gay catboy image
>also posting by phone
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>>151801021
>See post
>whisper
>get ignored
Feels Bad Man
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>>151800339
looks like a dr seuss character
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>>151801674
It catches the attention!
>>151801696
I didn't get a whisper, please do not bully me!
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>>151800419
How does he do it?
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>>151801554
>4 hours tbl
>in all completely different timezones
good job showing off how worthless you are
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MalEJnlPDDk

>Pelt3Rodel3
>Full CON

This is what happens.
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>>151801889
I really did send one though :<
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>>151801889
>cattly and dvine

nice.
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>>151801951
retard
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>>151801889
Can you powerlevel my level71 while I eat cereal? I'll join.
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>>151801907
Play a glitched class and no life TBL by queueing all different hours daily
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>>151802204
Holy shit you're salty as fuck
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>>151802028
>not going 250 dex and full con
baka
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>>151802260
no one gives a shit about tbl except you apparently

hop on a different bandwagon as soon as linker gets patched cuckzel
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>>151800294
Level 5 deeds of valor
Level 15 finestra
hop3doppel1shinobi
+5 cata pike w/ 3 level 5 green gems, 2 glad bands, vubbe fighter
enhance all 50
Kunai 5 is an average of 27,323 weighted by crit chance
Cyclone5 is an average of 67,337 weighted by crit chance
Stabbing15 is an average of 74.873
Pierce15 is an average of 22,434
151,953 total pierce damage accounting for overheats
134,674 total slash damage accounting for overheats

Level10 Finestra
hop2corsair2shinobi
+5 Brandish, 3 Level 5 green gems, vubbe fighter, 2 glad bands

Kunai5 is 14,879 average
Hexen Dropper5 is 22,029 average
Dust Devil10 is 11,329 average
Stabbing10 is 36,702 average
Pierce10 is 11,631 average
122,149 total pierce damage accounting for overheats
33,987 total slash damage

demon lord mirtis as target w/ spear lunge debuff

>m-muh hexen dropper
don't fall for seafaring jew
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>>151802260
He's right though.
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>>151802051
Oh sorry, your whisper was put in the "Cattly" tab
>>151802053
Contrary to popular belief, I do not need to get involved in either side of the drama just because I know both of the people involved!
>>151802162
If I had a Warlock or a Necro, I'd definitely try. I attempted to level some people in my guild in Constructor's Chapel and since I'm a Cata, it didn't go so hot!
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/Ohayou/
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>>151802371
No one gives a shit about him winning in TBL either except you apparently

That's actually more pathetic than him playing and showing off
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>>151800465
>>151800509
>>151800596
>>151800632
>>151800998
>>151801907
Get dominated.
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REAL THREAD OVER HERE, DON'T FALL FOR THE MEME
>>151798127
>>151798127
>>151798127
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>>151802278
Eventually, everyone will learn to love and appreciate SPR: The memestat. That CC resistance saves me every other match. I almost want to get MORE.
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>>151801260
>playing in orsha
>never had this error

Feels good
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>>151802490
You jelly?
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>>151802685
you nearly got btfo by a rank5 linker if it wasn't for your no lifing
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>>151801951
>>151800998
>>151802204
>>151802371
>>151803132
Any idea who this autistic sperg might be?
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>>151802379
Why is one cata pike and one brandish?
Why is demon lord mirtis used as the target?
What attack is being used?
What dex is being used?
In what delusional world are you using bushin deeds?
In what delusional world does a 50% increase to physical attack increase ones damage like this?
Where are the actual calculations?

There's so much bias and issues with your calc I can't help but laugh.
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>>151803204
Probably dvine but you're a faggot too vanzel so you should mingle
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>>151802379
>lets post a whole bunch of numbers without actual calculations
yeah and my Level10 Finestra
hop2corsair2shinobi
+5 Brandish, 3 Level 5 green gems, vubbe fighter, 2 glad bands
does 123,456 pierce damage :^)

Theres no use posting numbers without actual calculations.
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>>151803204
people like ranch who get #3 by luck but can't get past 20 in the other 2 weeks so they hate everybody better than them.
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>>151803453
does your shitposting and namedropping ever end dvine?
jesus christ its actually sad how noticeable posts by you are
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>>151799494

Sorry anon,
as I was making the screenshots for 2v2 ladder the ranks reset at 12 am servertime...

Didn't get the 2v2 Top 20 b-but who cares about those amirite?
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>>151803218
>Why is one cata pike and one brandish?
Just to show another advantage of not having corsair and to demonstrate the hoplite and doppel skill damages the typical hop3doppeldragoon would do without having any extra effort.

>Why is demon lord mirtis used as the target?
A world boss that

>What attack is being used?
>What dex is being used?
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/stat-calculator/

>In what delusional world are you using bushin deeds?
Bunshin wasn't even used. This makes corsair look better than it is.

>In what delusional world does a 50% increase to physical attack increase ones damage like this?
>Where are the actual calculations?
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/damage-guide-the-big-formula-modifier-types-and-how-they-interact/118950

There's so much butthurt and buyer's remorse in your post I can't help but laugh.
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>>151803647
Look mom, I'm on TV!
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>>151802379
t. someone who hasn't played either types of shinobi and is shitposting
the most obvious point of reference of your shitposting is that you don't know how deeds works
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>>151803647
I'm in that one!
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>>151803429
F

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19ELvof4WUvKAF_9yQQ-z72GU7C876yaiHPUNnPavSm0/edit?usp=sharing
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>>151796814
Okay! So first off, apologies to the anon asking for info! Apparently I'm very bad at this game and accidentally misinfo'd you.

So after a bit I decided to do more testing with RoD on a group of stationary mobs like in the video this time and apparently this is how it should actually work. First time making a webm, so it took a while, sorry. If you want I can do further testing, maybe position these guys so its easier to follow the rebound if you want.
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>>151800419
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbLmks3rW48

This thread has a serious problem with pulling facts out of their asses. Here's an actual fight with Vanzel.

He cheesed his way with Dark Theurge, and the broken links were used at least once to get a cheap kill that should've never happened. Nothing wrong with this, it's not like we could've won against 2 Clerics if we didn't have instant-kill moves. That's just how PvP in this game works.

Now, notice how he desyncs on the second round(about 50 seconds in). Is that on purpose? Did he purposely cause a desync so that he'd be teleporting around on everyone's screen? Who knows, maybe if you record more fights with him, we'll find out. Didn't seem malicious to me, even after watching it several times.
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>dragoon/corsair/hoplites/spearnobis arguiung about dps when fencer 2 shits on then
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>>151803827
You still havn't posted the stats that were used as well as actual calculations anon.
Anyone can make up random numbers and say "this proves this class is better than this" without any actual calculations to back it up.
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>>151803647
>24 cleric
>19 wizard
>4 sword
>3 archer

hehehe
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>>151804026

nice

show some isarune snowrollings
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https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=603
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>>151804235
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19ELvof4WUvKAF_9yQQ-z72GU7C876yaiHPUNnPavSm0/edit?usp=sharing

literal default stats here, full STR @ 280
sorry about your buyer's remorse mr. seafaring jew
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>>151803827
>literally avoiding the questions
ebic, you sure showed him
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>>151804317
>Monster cards confirmed

Oh boy, can't wait.
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>>151804347
Please explain how you will use your skills with deeds as full str against mirtis world boss without dying.

The only one here with buyers remorse is you anon who needs biased and plain wrong data to try and justify his build choice.
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>>151804317
>All the quests up to Maven

Time to level the fuck up out of our characters.

>Card system
>Swimsuit
>Heart eyepupils
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We need some serious dps charts for piercing swordies:

Hop 2 Cor 2 Dragoon/Shinobi
Hop 3 Doppel 1 Dragoon/Shinobi
Hop 1 CataDragoon x Sword 3 CataDragoon (for cata users, interesting with the new concentrate)
Barb 3 Fencer 2 (hl brings no buffs to fencer skills, while barb has warcry 10)
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>>151804317
Linker fix?
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>>151804508
Yeah your data and evidence of literally nothing is much more compelling mr. seafaring merchant
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>>151804317
Kim saves the game again!
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>>151804317
>linker BTFO
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>>151800419
Go Kayori sama!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>151804317
Holyshit. Has anyone caught the changes to giant swing? That shit is going to be meta. You're literally picking something up and using it as a weapon that's as large as your entire screen.
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Guardian
- Physical attack reduction/physical defense increase will now be applied based on a set percentage of the character&rsquo;s own physical attack and physical defense.

LMAO
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- Fixed the problem of party members being unable to move when quitting the quest right after the cutscene.- Fixed the problem of party members being unable to move when quitting the quest right after the cutscene.- Fixed the problem of party members being unable to move when quitting the quest right after the cutscene.- Fixed the problem of party members being unable to move when quitting the quest right after the cutscene.- Fixed the problem of party members being unable to move when quitting the quest right after the cutscene.- Fixed the problem of party members being unable to move when quitting the quest right after the cutscene.- Fixed the problem of party members being unable to move when quitting the quest right after the cutscene.- Fixed the problem of party members being unable to move when quitting the quest right after the cutscene.- Fixed the problem of party members being unable to move when quitting the quest right after the cutscene.- Fixed the problem of party members being unable to move when quitting the quest right after the cutscene.- Fixed the problem of party members being unable to move when quitting the quest right after the cutscene.
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>>151804317
>steady aim??
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>>151804317
>https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=603
Concentrate
- Stat bonus changed to (STR * 0.04 + DEX * 0.02) * (skill level - 1).

Guess I'll be using that skill reset pot earlier than I thought, after all.
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>>151804776
Doesn't work on players. It only does damage in the small circle where the monster is being spun around, not in the area within it. It's bad.
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>#1 guild gets 6k TP per week

ayy
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>Frost Cloud
>- This skill will now apply to 10 + skill level.


?????
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>>151804049
the fact that you knew he was going to desynch and that he eventually did proves the point that hes a cheater
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>>151804668
Zero data and evidence is still better than fraudulent and false evidence.
Its like how people believed in the world being flat in the middle ages and used the evidence of the "bible said so".
I'd rather have no evidence at all than evidence thats clearly false and wrong.
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Concentrate
- Stat bonus changed to (STR * 0.04 + DEX * 0.02) * (skill level - 1).

Restrain
- Chance of stun changed from 4% per level to 6% per level.

Catagoons rein of terror against non-cleric teams intensifies.
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>>151805006
>has all the tools required to prove me wrong
>refuses to make the attempt

k ;^)
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It's quite possible R8 is coming to iTOS in 2 or 3 weeks.
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>- Base HP of skeleton soldiers changed from skill level * 500 to skill level * 1500.

heck yes
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>>151804049
I think the whole thread by now knows Vanzel is an unlikeable cunt, but thanks for showing video evidence of it
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>all these class buffs and balances
Ayyy
>New map added: Barha Forest
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, finally virtov is fully craftable
>The amount of silver dropped in the following instances will be increased:
LMAO, 240 solo run spamming begins
>Saalus Convent missions will now give EXP and silver as rewards.
BASED
>21 new collections have been added.
ayy lmao, more useless time wasters to prevent myself from quitting the game
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>>151804317
The game is up to date with korea now
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Reminder that R10 archer will be cossack!
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>>151804317
Skyliner
- Overheat changed to 3 times.
- Cooldown time changed from 0 to 15 seconds.
Uuuh?
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>>151805467
This was the korean patch that applied our nerfs to their server. They forgot to remove those parts.
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Wow this is a really good update!
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>>151805467

oh god they just copypastad ktos changes

im scared senpai

HOLD ME
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So whos getting comfy's 500 tp for placing 10th?
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From Doomed to Saved, how much did those changes improve the game? Also, currently taking bets on what will break.
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>>151805635
The guildleader gets all the TP as dispensable capsules in guild storage
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Joint Penalty
- Cooldown time changed from 15 to 22 seconds.
- Count limit changed to skill level *10.
- Additional damage will now apply to linked enemies as intended.
- Fixed the problem where attacking a linked enemy in additional damage mode would only deal the additional damage.
- Your attack will no longer drop when using other skills on a linked enemy.
- Additional bullet magic will now apply as intended when using the Magic Missile skill on linked enemies.

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
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>>151805652
Saved!
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>>151805741
I'm actually happy that Vanzel got to do something he will never be able to do again.
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>>151805741
RIP all wiz3linker3 memebuilds
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>THESE PATCH NOTES
POST YFW TREE OF SAVIOR IS SAVIORED
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Joint Penalty
- Cooldown time changed from 15 to 22 seconds.
- Count limit changed to skill level *10.
- Additional damage will now apply to linked enemies as intended.
- Additional bullet magic will now apply as intended when using the Magic Missile skill on linked enemies.

RIP IN PEACE Vanzel
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>>151804317
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>>151805741
see you in top 10 pvp next week shitzel :^)
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>>151805741
t. Vanzel

Get rekt kid
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>>151804317
>>151805467
they literally copy and pasted old patch notes into the new ones. Sasuga IMCompetence
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Vertical Slash
- Skill attack increased from 115 to 1218.
- Increase per level changed from 75 to 112.5.
- Damage increase per number of debuffs changed from 10% to 30%.
>- Skill attack increased from 115 to 1218.
>- Skill attack increased from 115 to 1218.
>- Skill attack increased from 115 to 1218.
Is this the first time something is getting a 1000% damage buff?
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Team Battle League
- Team Battle League will now allow options of the equipped items to take effect.
What did they mean by this?
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>>151804317
wtf I love tos now
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>>151806008
I don't know, but Animus and other meme effects worked before anyways.

But maybe your gear is relevant now
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W-wait

Are there enough quests to get to 280 now?
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>>151804317
that is way too many patch notes to read, somebody just tell me if IMC fixed the party quest bug already
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>>151806091
in many cases, no
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>>151806091
No.
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>>151806110
>>151804850
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>>151806110
They did!
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>>151806008
I guess there's an option to have your equipment work or be cosmetic

like that game mode in Gunbound where you chose to have stats on or not
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>>151806091
275~ is how far the koreans can get just by questing + exploring.
Add some missions and quests (such as saalus which now gives exp) and you'll easily hit 280 without ever grinding at all
>>151806110
see>>151804850
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>>151806110
- Fixed the problem of party members being unable to move when quitting the quest right after the cutscene.
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>>151804275
Took a bit, but here you go anon!
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>>151804049
KEK VANZEL
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>>151806216
Woah...
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>>151805809
>>151805832
>>151805917
>>151805926

WHO THE FUCK IS VANZEL
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>>151804317
All these cosmetics. My TP is ready.
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GvG is now serious business. Let's tackle some of that free TP. I really want that Swimsuit for Swordswoman.

>More range for all Rodelero skills
>Buffing up the less popular Barb skills
>Retarded buffs to Highlander skills

Now if only the Concentrate buff was something to write home about, I could be 100% happy.
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What mission do people queue for?
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>>151806305
>>151800419
linker exploiting fag from /tosg/
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>>151806382
well it aint me though to be fair i did build my first 4 circles relying on that, though to be honest im not sure what else id have taken there that would have improved this setup

still have quickcast flesh cannon i guess
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>Skill attack increased from 115 to 1218.

ebic, simbly ebic, imc couldn't decide how to fix vertical slash and just decided to give it 10* damage boost
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>Steady Aim
>- Attack increase changed from (3 * skill level) % to (5 + skill level) %.

So is this undoing the ranger nerf? Is R3 worth it now?
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>>151806901
Anon...
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>>151806901
>45% to 20%

no, IMC is just dumb, it's not being changed.
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What will be the most profitable dungeon?
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>>151804317
if linker is nerfed again I'll riot
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No discord?
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are we saved? 50k players coming in next week right?
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>The problem of the player character not moving after feeding the companion on stairs has been fixed
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>>151804317
>Psychokino
>Hell Breath
>- The error that made this skill deal twice the damage has been fixed.
lmfao
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>One character can no longer eat all the food on the refreshment table.
I don't know why I found this hilarious
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>>151807086
>The problem of Guild Events not working has been ignored, just like all other weeks, fuck you white pigs
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Where did all the good anons ago?
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>>151807243
Does she hibernate afterwards?
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>>151807373
It's fake
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>>151807373
she takes a really big poop afterwards
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I-I'm sure IMC will fix the p-party quest bug next patch... r-right?
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Which does more damage? Dragoon or Monk?
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>>151805846
>- Additional bullet magic will now apply as intended when using the Magic Missile skill on linked enemies.
What does this mean?
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>>151807465
Silly anon, swordsmen don't do damage!
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>>151807389
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFTVNLC7ysej-sD5lkLqNGA
it's not fake, shes got a genetically freakish stomach that can stretch to nearly the size of her chest cavity. She does daily videos of her eating and she has some videos in normal speed (over an hour long)
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>>151807357
Either still here but not playing the game; or moved onto other games/real life
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>>151805970
Vertical Slash STRONK
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>>151806664
It just brought it up it to level of other R4 skills. Notice that maxed Catar is around 1000 damage as well. It's now useful with stun/stagger + shock + bleeding + armor break. Barb3 is R5 and his C3 skill, Giant Swing has over 2000.

Barb will be just hard hits with stuns, HL will be a bit more party oriented combo based class.
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>>151807548
whattheuck
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>>151807798
Cartar is 4 hits. Giant Swing is effectively 1 hit.
Cartar also have a +50% modifier in the formula that's multiplicative to strike weakness etc.
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So how does this card system help balance.
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>>151802717
How much did you invest again?
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>>151804026
That anon here, thanks a lot for the webm. I'm having a hard time following the bounces though. Seems like it's 1 initial blast + 2 rebounds at most? So basically an aoe magic missile? Would make sense considering RCs have a quick cast attribute.

If magic missile still shares up to 18 hits with joint penalty after this patch I'll be highly considering RC for my build. Thanks again.
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>>151807951
it makes EleC3 the strongest class in the game
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>>151805392
>useless time wasters
Yeah, ok, enjoy missing those delicious +5 each stat collections and more
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>>151807951
it does not.
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>>151807535
There used to be a bug where magic missile bounces weren't shared with joint penalty, instead dealing basic auto attack damage for some reason. With the repository merge it went back to how it should have been. If there's anything to be fixed/nerfed it'll be how hangman's knot apparently turns every magic missile into a mini aoe due to minus aoe defense ratio, granting way more hits than number of missiles.
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>>151807551
Does she just shit undigested food? She should be fat as fuck,
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>>151807798
It's actually quite a bit stronger than other R4 skills now since it still has the scaling damage based on how much Skull Swing removed from the enemy and can also get a 30% damage bonus to debuffed mobs.
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Which card is good for swordies?
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>>151804317
>TP Shop Additions
>Circle Reset Potion

Game is alive again!
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>>151808256
>>Circle Reset Potion
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>>151805741
NOOOOOOO

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>151806248
Make Rune of Justice next thank you.
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Will Maplestory 2 be better than this game?
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>>151808556

it died on arrival in korea, we arent even getting it
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>>151808556
it has even less content and there is no buiild diversity, doesn't look as cute

but the game works and runs nicely so yeah it's better
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>>151808556
>2016
>maplestory

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>151804317
>those lenses
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>not making a hl 3 rodel 3

MAXIMUM STRIKE
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>>151808234
+vs medium and +vs large
You can't compete with straight +70% magic attack soon 80%
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>>151807948
Yeah, and Cleave increases slash damage by 50% and Pouncing is amazing despite having huge cooldown.
I doubt people will max Catar. Lvl15 still will take a while to cast and more and more HL skills are now being worth taking so you need skill points for those as well. Catar10 would probably be decent pick, maxed Skyliner for bleeding and low cooldown general purpose skill, maxed Skull Swing for bosses, Few points into Cross Guard, Cross Cut either lvl1 as enabler for Skyliner or maxed because you often use it to buff Skyliner anyway, Moulinet has pretty nice crit chance, Wheel would be just 1 point for mass knockback, skill points in Crown depend on whether you want it as enabler for Vertical or 100% uptime for bosses.

barb1HL3 cleaved Vertical Slash when?
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>>151809002
no +attack %? shame which cards are these?
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is linker going to be shit again
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>tfw your favorite pardoner was sent to the shadow realm because the channel crashed
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>theorycrafted the PERFECT pvp build
>too lazy to make it myself
>don't want to share it in case it gets stolen

Nothin' personell anons
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>You will now be unable to log out, move channels or access the character selection screen during a combat situation

Atom btfo
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>>151809072
Yes
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>>151809079
CANELLE?
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>>151808874
I love Makoto
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>>151809079
160 um squire is MIA ...
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>>151809095
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>>151809059
>>151808234
>>151800339
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>>151809095
world pvp is ded little guy
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>>151809095
>disconnect in the middle of mobs because ebin imc servers
>log back in
>dead because the game didn't log you out
wew
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Magic damage classes get +70% damage from cards

MEANWHILE

Physical damage classes get at best +70 elemental property attack, ebin
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>>151809095
Atom here

gimme 10 seconds

Atom out
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>>151809343
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Guys, did I futureproof?
I made 8 lvl 10 Chappartin cards from the free ones in the quest line.
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>>151809384
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How expensive are funding fencers relative to other classes like monk (stamina pills out my ass) or manamanama or fletchers?
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>>151808493
Here you go anon. If you need me to do it at a different angle, feel free to ask.

Rune of Justice is pretty disappointing imo since it doesn't scale like Rune of Destruction does. This is lvl 1 without any attributes btw.
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>>151809419
Yes
You won the game.
Meanwhile i feeded cards to gem long time ago and at best now i can afford +20% magic attack, whivh will make me fall hard behind
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>>151809442
>funding fencers relative to other classes like monk
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>>151809471
Can you at least turn while casting?
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Did Doppel cyclone get buffed or nerfed? That patch note description is confusing.
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>>151809471
Thank you.

Four hits, yeah?
No target limit?
How's the range? Same with stone curse and monk's energy blast?
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>>151809539
What I meant is that stamina pills are literally burning holes in my wallet. I've probably spent about 1mil on stamina pills alone. I've never had a fencer but I know that rapiers are made of dogshit.
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>>151809343
I will stack + vs boss on my future Hoplite3Dragoon2, the magic plebians will have a fight in bossing
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>>151809471
Nice, next can you post your character dancing while using snow rolling?
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It's not much but I'm pretty happy!
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>>151809738
Are you in Klai? I have a +10 one that I'll prob never use because I deleted my monk, and I can give it to my tosg friends for free.
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>>151809673
the problem is that the increased damage against bosses says [card count]% rather than []%, this makes me think that instead of getting 1% per star you will actually get 1% per card (7% total)
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>>151809657
My venier costs less than 600 silver to repair. It's the SP pots that burn the hole in my pocket.
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>>151809575
Before:
5,5/7/9,5 second duration of spinning
After:
~4/5,5/7,5 seconds duration of spinning
for lvl 5/10/15 of skill

Yes, it got nerfed.
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>>151809896
>>151809737
there was meant to be a star in that second box
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>>151809958
madara doppel BTFO
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>>151809873
I'm in tiny comfy Orsha. As silly as it sounds I'd rather upgrade one myself. There is something just really satisfying about working for your own gear.
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>>151809958
Hehe, gotta nerf Madara doppel but implement the card system ;)
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>>151809873
I'll take it! I'm in Klai! notagirltho...
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>>151809975
>>151809673
replied to the wrong guy too, fuck
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>>151809896
It is but i will fight hard!
Not gonna down easy.
Not to mention a lot of boss move around a lot and thats where Elememe lose DPS agaist Fletchers right now
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>>151809958
we already had this nerf since the beginning, it's the same
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>>151810081
Capy please
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I don't think he's okay
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>>151809563
Yes you can turn while casting it.

>>151809596
Its more or less looks like 3-4 2x hits if they connect.
I'll test to see if there's a target limit, probably not.
Range is about half or 75% the range of monk's Energy Blast it seems like for some reason.

Don't mind the zoomy!

>>151809737
I'll try to get that done, making another webm for Rune of Destruction.
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Is not taking Highlander1 on a barb3>Dop2 really that bad?
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>Physical Link
>- Cooldown time changed from 20 to 22 seconds.
Well it was fun while it lasted. Who else is rerolling out of linker?
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>>151810395
*SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECH*
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>>151810395
What attribute is your rune of destruction?
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>>151810395
can you post a webm of you bullying koenig next?
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Is sword still the worst of all the classes?

I haven't played in a long time but the r8 update seems neat.
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>>151810395
The plant on the left took 5 hits. Assuming it's not two plants stacked together.
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>>151810580
Haha, no way.
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>>151810429
>joint penalty no longer had hit limit after the repository merge
>"fuck yeah now I can make the linker build I always wanted to do"
>get to level 100
>it's going to be nerfed again
IMC is really fucking pissing me off.
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>>151810415
anyone? I've had 3 people in a level 90 dungeon that told me to eat shit and remake.
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>>151810580
no, swordsmen are playable now, come back to the game.

hehehehe
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>The Ignition item’s Burn debuff damage will now be applied as intended
what did they mean by this? i dont recall it ever not being applied.
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>>151810714

you miss out on a nicesu attribute
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>>151810760
They just copy pasted it from kToS patches.
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>>151810714
They probably told you to eat shit because you don't have peltasta you doughnut
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>>151810637
>>151810748
I have no idea what this meme is but I guess I'll drop by again in a few months.
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>>151807963
Okay this took awhile (mainly because its a pain trying to move everything with Frost Pillar without bunching everything up), but here's something a little more easier to follow, anon!

>>151810489
10% don't really use it that much since I don't have QC ;-;

>>151810550
NO!

>>151810593
Nah, only one plant. Looks like it took 1 hit on the first, and then 2 hits on the last 2. This skill makes no sense sometimes...
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>>151810835
I had peltasta. Thats why I didn't have highlander.
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>>151810714

which class you took? don't tell me it was sword 2

both pelt and hl have their jobs, but anticipating doppel 3 being great, you'll want to roll a high build with highlander on it
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>>151810887
What level is your RoJ? Do you think it's worth 4 points? I don't have Ice skills on my build. Does Rune of Ice work on ice-prop equipment? Thanks for answering m89.
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>>151810959
I have Sword>Pel>Barb3. I was rushing a level 90 for the box.
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>>151810887
ok nice, now can you make a webm where you say "this isn't even close to being personnel" and then you blast the corpse flowers with rune of destruction, thanks in advance.
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>>151809738

>monkey
>shitty haircut
>+6 weapon

end thuself
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>>151810887

Now do a Isa Rune snowrolling, please. I want to see your damage!

One day I'm going to roll a wiz 3 cryo 3 rc, absolute snowman
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Making a QS3 Reiter, how much CON should I have? PVE only, well funded.
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>>151811068
I already made a webm of that! >>151806248
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>>151811156

Thanks, that was cool. How's your SR attribute and how much matk?
>>
So, lets talk about cards.

Since the update is almost here, which cards you want? Which combinations you think will be good for certain classes? Will everybody just stack 1 card effect to get the max out of it, or they'll mix card effects for more open situations?


Here is the effect list: http://pastebin.com/PrCkZ21n
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>>151811082
0 invested
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>>151811082

>well founded

maybe you can roll with 0 con, fill your armors with lv 5 red gems and boots with yellow gems, 3x plate +lv 50 plate mastery WHEN you need survivability

max peta and at least one +700 hp hat can help you with magic coupled by those gear

oh and you can feed a few millions to your pet's stats
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>>151811329
7 chapparition cards
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>>151809737
Sorry anon, tried to dance on my giant snowball, but it seems you can't do that. ;-;

>>151811236
SR attribute is at 30% and I have 1105 magic atk.
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>>151811329

Someone told me that cards effect didn't stack, is this true?
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>>151811438

Hm, with QC and a higher int / lv 50 attribute, the total damage from this skill can be really scary.

~14k *14 from a lv 7 with audra, more damage then a regular frost cloud

too bad isa's cooldown is too high and SR itself is also big, we can't even roll two times with one isa.
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>>151811773
>can be really...
>too bad...
literally half the game
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>>151811402
>>151811346
Sounds good to me.
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>finally get 2 silver anvils
>upgrade twice
>fail twice

Fuck.
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>>151812007
Forgot to hit that boost luck button?
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>>151811729
some card effects increase by the amount of stars the card has and others increase by the amount of that card you stack in the slot, you can not fill up more than 1 slot with a card so magic users will be limited to a 10% increase in magic damage.
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>>151812007
yeah but they were free fails
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>>151811438
You've let me down... I trusted you...
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>>151812007
>silver anvils
i got 3

a +10 weapon with 2 potential

try it?
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>>151812007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW1QY76d-40&list=PLE1XLrdwAAuCK3by6bEHzFN1yTjxTYHD1
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Are there sorc summons that do strike damage? Or do they do magic damage and/or all have huge wind ups before they attack anything?

Does temple shooter, or any other archer summon, get the bonus from raise or decay?
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>>151812007
>silver anvils secretly have double the chance to fail
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>>151812216
I'm pretty sure temple shooter does pierce damage which counts as a long range melee attack, like a spear.
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>>151812212
Thats my new favorite channel
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Do skillcrolls work in arena?
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>>151812067
not true
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>>151812291
No, they are strictly for PvE like dispellers.
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>>151812193

Do you want your +10 to go to +7 like mine did?

Do it. At least you won't be lonely.
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>>151804317
>Sapper's Claymore attribute enhanced still bugged even when a lpt of players has already sent tickets.

Claymore enhance is pegged at 8% eben when you enhancr it to 100%
>>
Talking about TS, how great are his skills?

That machine gun one is so good looking

and what about the others?
>>
> - Team Battle League will now allow options of the equipped items to take effect.

What did IMC meme by this?
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>>151812431
You can now bring your +20 glass bracelets and max petas and be immortal
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>>151812381

claymore sux anyway

better buy detonate traps %attributes
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>>151809958
>After:
>~4/5,5/7,5 seconds duration of spinning for lvl 5/10/15 of skill

What? That's the current duration. What the fuck is the updated durations then?
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>>151812409
That barrage is like getting hit by flesh cannon, in a straight line.
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>>151811025
Highlander has a nice attribute for using 2H swords. If you're going to make an insanedpsdoppelmadara, might as well go all-in and fuck peltastameme. If you're going to reroll you might consider going Sword>High3 because of the highlander buffs.
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>>151812485
YEAH BABY
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>>151812431
Hopefully it's just special effects rather than base stats. I can dig hp gear applying to help low con builds but there's no point going up against +25 gear exploiter faggots.
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>>151812489
After repository merge with kToS patch notes include also their changes. Just like Skyliner getting 15 cooldown. We already have it but they did not or something.
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>>151812212
shit son, how did you find this?
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>>151812624
I assume it will just be stuff like that, I swear IMC already said that weapon enhancements wouldn't apply at all in TBL.
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>>151812807
They also said they won't give out any more stat resets
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A2>QS3>SR3

Or

A2>R3>SR3?
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Would you rather have a dop or a dragoon in your late game parties? Both have Peltasta
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>>151812212
this does things to me. why. how.
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>>151813074
Completely indifferent. They're effectively the same.
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>>151813074
does not matter.

they are there for class party exp bonus and Swash Buckling
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>>151811035
Well anon, if you're still waiting, here you go.

If you want to full webm of it, just ask.
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>>151812149
I'M SORRY KAY!
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>>151813289
Thank you, this is very valuable to my research.
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>>151813135
>>151813218
How about a musketeer or canoneer? Assuming you'd take fletcher over anything anyways.
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>>151813464
I feel like I made a very grave mistake today...
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>>151813492
the same

looking for archer for class party exp bonus

but aoe dmg is always good
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>>151813641
Still waiting
>>151810993
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>>151812489
IMC literally just gathered every single patch note they ever did and put them together so it looks bigger
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>>151813743
Which one is easier to find a party between sword vs archer?
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>>151811025

This build can be a nice fencer!


hl 1 barb 3 or hl 3 barb 1 for doppel
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>>151810993
>>151813762
My bad anon, sorry. As I said before it's at lvl 1 RoJ is hot garbage unless you have QC I feel. If you have it, go for it I guess.

Yes RoG still works with Ice-prop equipment. Like you could always have Ice Property to support Cryo's, but that's a really small niche.
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>>151814036
depends who is online and in a party ofc.

i usually see more parties looking for pelt, for 200+grind
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>>151814231
Thanks for the info.
>>
which cards will be the best for a wb hunter fletcher in your opinion?
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>>151815013
The one that increases your damage against bosses
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>>151815319
Abysmal Knights then? Wow those are pretty expensive.
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>bump into my crush farming last minute chapparition cards
>can't think of anything to say
>he gets his card and logs off
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>>151815727
Tomb Lord Card : [Card Slot Equip] Increases damage against boss monsters by [card count]%.
>>
Centaurus Card : [Card Slot Equip] AoE attack ratio + [Card count]. [Summoner Tome] Can be used to summon Centaurus with the Summoning skill.

Finally
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>>151815904
Its times like these I'm thankful I have my 40 dulla cards to feed
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>>151816010
Might be good for Cannoneer burst
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>>151816112
+7% is fucking nothing, and thats from 7 lv10 cards
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>>151816245
You're misreading it, its +7% per card and all of them are level 1.
This means at the current max of 7 cards its an increase of 49% from 7 level 1 tomb lord cards
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>>151812968
A1>R2>QS2>SR3

Is better.
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>>151816348
You misread it my friend, it's [card count]%

Meaning 7 cards = 7%
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>>151816509
>qs2

at least put some effort into your shitposting
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>Last run of the day
>Couldn't find anyone to do the 240 dungeon again
>Let's try the 130 dungeon
>30 minutes to enter after pressing enter
>Helping some 130 newbies while cleaning/waiting for them on bosses
>Finally gets it

Being nice with others finally paid off, I'm so happy right now ;___;
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>>151816724
>he doesn't know about the QS2 build
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>>151816724
Do you not know about the rapid fire exploit or something?
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>>151816789
I feel so bad for you anon, once r8 comes out peta becomes worthless.
Your best choice is to sell it now whilst its still worth some 4-5mil which can be better spent on attributes
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>>151816856
>>151816808

id like to know if the critres 0 attribute is anything but a complete waste of 2 circles yes
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>>151816957
t. terralion poster
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>>151817143
max terralion is coming anon, you'll see... YOU'LL ALL SEE...
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>>151817316
more like
>(Ultimate Max Petamion) Lv320, +25All stat, +1 all Skills
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>>151817316
>tfw max terralion requires terralion recipe+max petamion
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>>151812212
I want to ravage Luvia
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>>151817627
t. de-su

stfu you retard, get on small buss and go to school retard looking a ss muff
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>>151817627
>>151817697
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>>151816957
>Peta which should be upgraded into Max for +14 all stats
>irrelevant at 330
Would you bet it's gonna stay relevant at 330?
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>>151817840
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Is 5 inches enough
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So is DPK real or just bunch of bullshit?
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>>151818000
The mentally handicapped centre?
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>>151818190
Time to settle this age old question once and for all...

http://www.strawpoll.me/10996465
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>>151818093
no
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>>151816957
Items like Sissel,Glad Band and Max Peta will stay relevant at next level cap too
At best between 280-330 we will get 1-2 new dungeon from where we might find a physical version of Animus, Virtov 2.0 or Catacomb weapons 2.0 for some classes and 3 new WBs with gimmick loot if we are lucky.
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Time to settle this age old question once and for all...

http://www.strawpoll.me/6281831
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Shitzel already trying to stack up those points before the nerf. Fucking loser.
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>>151818503
And Capyba,Karga or Divine?
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>>151818640
no
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>>151818706
It's unfair, we need to know for everyone
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>>151818771
no
its a classic
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Will cards be tradable after the update?
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>>151818000
why did you let this guy into FP again?
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>>151819025
xd
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>>151819025
>being unable to handle the bants
what a yurocuck
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>>151819013
nope
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>>151819114
>>>/d2g/
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>>151819215
>he called me a yurocuck
>he must be a moba shitter
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That settles it lads, DPK is confirmed real.
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>cast spell
>freeze
>die
why do i bother with this shitty ass game
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>>151819773
BUT KTOS PATCH UPDATES, NOW WE HAVE MORE CONTENT TO FREEZE AND DIE IN, WHAT DO YOU NOT LIKE ABOUT IT?
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>>151819960
>Adding a bunch of broken shit on top of a bunch of broken shit

This patch will be the best, I can already feel it.
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>>151816348
Where do you even get Tomb Lord cards? Wouldn't stacking 7 level 10 Ellaganos cards be better for +70 Dex?
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I miss REVEAL_ALL_MAP()
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>>151820038
>Cleave is changed to Overheat 3
>it also suddenly started crashing the game
I'm actually more worried about anything changing, I bet we've got another fuckton of bugs coming up
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>>151820084
fear not friend

here at IMC we playtest all of our patches before we release them
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>being this bad
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>>151820079
It still works. ;)
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>literally against a fletcher or wugu in literally every single 2v2 game in the past hour
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>>151820883
Now I'm free.
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>>151820910
Whats the problem?
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>>151821124
Broadhead
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>>151821189
Just dodge it?

You're not playing a bad class are you...?
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>>151820883
>>151820990
>>151812007
can they even success?
i dont want -3
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>>151821189
And? Play a pvp build.
>>
rate my amazing pvp build

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#311166bb.1f28314f6175.2a.1a
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So just checked the Hackapell skills and found out they are all melee ranged. Just so happens I have melee ranged skills as a Sapper 3. Using Horse tackle after deploying broom trap should work.
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>>151821409
>archer
Into the trash
90% of the time, they are dead weights.
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>>151821504
>just checked the hackapell skills
post the r8 skills anon
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>>151821925
Tosbase
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>>151822094
>>151821504
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>>151821504
Enjoy having to fit another meme weapon into your build.
>>
Reminder that Inquisitor uses a device that's inserted into people's mouths, butts, and vaginas as a weapon.
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So apparently if you link two enemies together using full draw and then crit with cannon blast it hits one of the mobs for 99k, is this bugged?
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>>151821352
>play a cleric
ftfy
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>>151822480
wtb strong alpha male Inquisitor bf to dominate me
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>>151822639
working as intended
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>>151820990
i seriously hope you have another +18/+20 in your hand otherwise that wasnt the smartest choice
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I hope wizard r8 previews were just mediocre and the classes themselves are just as good as every other classes' previews.
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>>151822778
Just wait until Mimic dawg
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WHY ARENT WE TALKING ABOUT THIS

https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=603

Still no important fix tho
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>>151822830
we did for hours. scroll up
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>>151822830
General is dead.
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FUCK THIS GAME PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS RUNNING BOSSES OUT OF MY OWL STATUES REEEEEE
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>>151822830
>party bug fix
>not important
One of the biggest game killer gets fixed but guess for a Kirito it's a whatever
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>>151822830
Because going nuts over all of the changes (many of which are misnoted) and the promised heart pupils was hours ago, anon. Now is quiet farming Warspite and ERP time.
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>>151822935
That's not going to bring back all my friends from the dead.
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>>151822830
Oh I didn't see the male cleric servant costume. Kinda want that
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>>151822935
Did they? Im reading many specific quests fixes and the other bug fuxes but i must have missed it
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>>151822830
that cleric swimsuit might look good on my druid i kinda like it the more i look at it
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>>151822830
"- Fixed the problem of party members being unable to move when quitting the quest right after the cutscene."
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
YOOOOOOOOOO
DID THEY REALLY?
DID THEY FUCKING REALLY?

AFTER 2 MONTHS OF IMCOMPETENT BEHAVIOUR
DID THEY ACTUALLY FIX THIS SHIT?
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>>151822639
Nope.

Full Draw makes the one that is hit by the one that is shot get 0 defense. That is why Sappers use it in conjunction with Collar bomb, Collar bomb a monster and full Draw it into a mob.
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>>151823183
based on past experience with korean devs they fixed it but made a much worse bug appear
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Since ever swords a shit
Smart man weapon was always the spear and variants.
Best spearfag build?
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>>151823431
Sword1>Hoplite3>Cataphract3>Dragoon3
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>>151823183
>when quitting the quest right after the cutscene
Doesn't the bug happen when you START the cutscene? Not when you quit the quest right after the cutscene?
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>>151823196
But even at 0 defense I shouldn't be hitting for 99,999?

I was testing it with some other aoe stuff and the mob that gets hit always takes nearly triple damage from aoe abilities.
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>>151818190
"Drops per kill" literally means the usual system every game uses with a random percentage chance of a drop from each individual kill. DPK was a troll from the start.
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>>151823613
shut up you nonbeliever dpk is real
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How terrible are the restrictions in this game? How pay2whatever is it?

I want to play a MMO but they're all shit.
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>>151823724
This is possibly the least P2W MMO I've ever played. There's a token/subscription system similar to EVE but unlike EVE a new player will have enough silver to buy one or more months of subscription in their first several days of play. By the time you're 200+ there's a dungeon you can run like 3 times and you have enough silver for a month.

It has a lot of bugs and problems though.
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>>151823807
Why does everyone say it's pay to win or shit like that?
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>>151823847
because morons don't understand that an extra 20 property attack on their hat isn't going to make or break their build.
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>>151823847
Literally nobody says this. You can RMT silver but the person in this general who has spent more silver than anyone else powering up their character is also like the lowest ranked player of that build. It doesn't really help much.
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>>151823724
Premium members get 200% EXP/Drops and rewards from quests, 10% higher move speed, more buff slots, storage access and trading.
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>>151823915
Is this the same shit as the token/subscription system?
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>>151823540
its some google translate shit
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>>151823847
autism that's why
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>>151823915
>rerolled a cleric
>bought buffs constantly
>didn't run any dungeons except one run of 50
>over a mil silver on them at lv 120
The benefits are irrelevant if you easily get premium status just by casually playing the game.
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>>151823724
This game is so non-pay2win the devs didn't even provide a way to give them money during the free to play launch. The downside is the devs are incompetent.
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>>151823915
>200% EXP/Drops

What are you smoking my man?
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>>151824045
Are they more competent or less competent than Black Desert devs?
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>>151823915
This is misinfo.

This is the actual bonus. It's 30% fucking percent EXP and no drop rate. It's also practically free via ingame currency.

>>151823974
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>>151823915
The fact that you had to change all the numbers says a lot.
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>>151824130
It's not even a 30% increase.
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>>151824171
Technically you're right on non-dungeon maps, yeah.
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>>151823909

every time

god i dont even play on that server and i hate that guy holy shit someone euthanize that faggot
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>>151823847
there are degrees of PayWin and everyone has their own definition where the line is.

Generally restricting lots of ingame features and putting them behind a 20 bucks pseudo subscription is pay2win for me but that doesn't go for other people as well because "YOU CAN BUY IT WITH SILVER", and the fact that you can rarely get the hat itemization things from dungeons doesn't mean squat when one would need to pay around $100,000+ to get the precise max bonus.

If pay2win had a scale this would be somewhere around 4~5/10
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>>151824427
>and putting them behind a 20 bucks pseudo subscription
10 bucks
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>>151823847
>Someone's attacks are fucked by mounts
>They release a pet that anyone can mount and not just specific classes at the same time as TBL
>It costs money
>People can pay money to beat others more easily
>This isn't pay2win
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>>151824598
you cannot mount and attack without the attribute
everyone can buy pets if its just for auto attacks
play the game
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>>151823909
attributes add more damage than all the stats you get from leveling with 25% difference.

also, "ranking" lol. the shit you love to fly around can't even crack top 20 every week loser.
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Why is my worldmap like this?
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>>151824789
Here we go again.
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How useful is the Oracle, Pardoner, Dievdirby, Chronomancer, and Alchemist?
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>>151824789
>he's LITERALLY arguing that RMT is pay2win
Nice bait you stupid motherfucker, actually got me. RMT isn't pay to win you dumb sack of shit, if somebody decides to pay the chinks for money then that's just being retards, and even if they do so, the attributes won't instantly destroy the game either.
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>>151824869
So it won't lag like shit anymore if you open it or hover over an area.
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>>151824986
>oracle
9/10 strength in PVP. Just for fun in PVE.
>pardoner
Strong when combined with PD but mostly a money class.
>Dievdirby
Good at everything.
>Chronomancer
Good at everything.
>Alchemist
A money class that doesn't make any money. When the new patch comes out they get a summon that can cast the spells they have so they might be a little less terrible, but don't count on it.
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>>151824986
great pvp, goldbergstein, great all around, great all around, shekel shoah unless homunculus is amazing
>>
I like it.
>>151824986
Cleric has no bad class except monk lol
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>Concentrate now scales with level

I'm worried they'll make Zalciai scale with skill level as well, I'm using Krivis as a one rank just for Zalciai and Daino, if they go and make it scale by (0.075*SPR)*(skill_level-1) or some shit it will fuck up my build hardcore.

no resets either so just reroll, and since this game is horrible for rerolling (lmao just leech it) i'll probably move on to greener pastures
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>>151825137
You do understand you lose nothing right? You still have everything you could do earlier, its just that those who chose to go the full 3 circles gain benefits from more scaling.
>>
Do you get penalty in movement speed at 90% weight?
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>>151825121
>EXP Tome: 14 Days
For a moment I thought this meant it gives a 14 day EXP buff. Then I saw the silver anvils and realized it just disappears in 2 weeks.
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>>151825202
taking priest 1 is shit
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>>151825237
Priest 1 you take for resurrection.
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>Read update
>Ranger3fags BTFO

Are the faggots who suggest it in a Mergen build finally going to shut up?
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>>151824789
Get a trip.
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>>151825056
>>151825089
So could I go 1 Cleric 3 Priest 1 Pardoner 1 Oracle 1 Plague Doctor?
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>>151825029
>triggered poor delusional little faggot
long rant about nothing. attributes still give you more strength than all the damage stats you add
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>>151825368
that doesnt sound good to me but im just playing a meme build so idk
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>Frost Cloud
>- This skill will now apply to 10 + skill level.
Nice useless pretend-nerf
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>>151823183
They didn't fix anything, they will just update our version to that version where this problem doesn't exist.
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>>151825368
Looks fine to me but people usually want Cleric 2.
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>>151825368
c2 priest 2 and youre laughing
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>>151825368
dont get just 1 circle of pardoner or any other merchant class unless you plan to go all in as a money maker
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>>151823906
>you can get up to 100 combined atk and crit atk per hat
>x3
>and you still have 1 slot per hat for shit like crit rate increase
But most importantly, it's pay2win because you can literally have an advantage by spending real money, and I'm not talking about premium tokens or shit you can buy with silver. Enchant scrolls are p2w by definition.
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>>151825343
This change has literally been in game since iTOS first patch.

Please play the game.
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>>151825612
Fuck it, just teach me how to cut stuff good sempai.
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>>151825815
>50 memephones
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>>151825803
>expecting someone to play a not fun class
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>>151825458
>still hits up to 15 aoe ratio with skill 5
>most mobs are med sized so that's 15-8 mobs
IMC has the most retarded balance.
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>>151825815
What is the problem?
>>
>Hakkapalle
>Saber Bash
>Saber Thrust

WTF who makes these classes?
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>>151825458
"Sir, this skill is bullshit and we need to do something about it"
"Ok, I 'limited' the amount of hits it can do. Now never speak of balancing my darling cl--- I mean never speak of balancing elementalists ever again."
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>>151825612
>don't get one circle of the only service class that's worth getting just one circle
playthegame.jpg
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>>151825851
What's wrong with that?
>>151825869
wew that gif is worse than anything else I've seen in this game
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>>151825925
Julie does. Her quitting was a ruse, she was actually promoted for her great work and was allowed a seat on the design team's lap.
>>
adding another one to my collection
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>>151825941
That's all fine and dandy until you realize IMC doesn't play the game.
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>>151825803
You can't make me, faggot.
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>>151825458
Skyliner from 0 cd to 15 cd with 3 overheat. They are just reposting, those changes have been around since forever.
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>>151825801
First of all you can find enchant scrolls ingame so if anything it's pay for a slight advantage.

Secondly it's entirely RNG so the chance of you rolling all the necessary stats along with the rolls actually being high is insanely unlikely.

Finally people sell their enchanted hats on the market so you can literally just buy them anyway.
>>
healer here lookin for a maven party in the Klap server anyone wanna maven
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>>151826015
we have two now
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>>151825950
Yeah let's just put in a circle of a merchant class and be stuck with an unoptimized pve/pvp character for the rest of its existence. Not like you could make a dedicated pardoner instead to leave as a shekel slave.

Fuck off misinfo agent.
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>>151826083
Just shout for it, be prepared however that you're going to have to take whatever comes first, theres not enough players to aim for a perfect chrono/pelt/elememe/archer/cleric team
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>>151826379
But megaphones cost, you sluts are free and have nothing better to do.
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>>151826424
>not using your daily free tp for megaphones

Your loss faggot.
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>>151826424
Well good luck with getting maven parties then, most people here have dedicated parties/guilds/etc.
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>>151826457
>>151826476
kys
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>>151826498
cry more :^)
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>>151826498
w-why are you giving that anon your s-s-soft k-kisses?
>>
wow all i wanted to see if there would be people that would be intereseted here and it turned sour fast
>>
Tell me why this isn't the best swordsman class atm sword>pelt>barb>high2>doppel>2

>pro tip: you cant
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>>151826676
>lets call everyone sluts
>lets want stuff but not make any effort
>lets tell people to kys
you deserved worse than you got
>>
Why is krivis a green class when they have the strongest lightning spell in the game?
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>>151826767
too bad i didnt say those thing
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>>151826756
It's a rank7 swordman
It's shit
Wait for money maker mafia Dragoon2
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>>151826767
when you assume you make an ASS out of U and ME
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>>151826756
>pelt
>high2
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>>151826756
Best swordman class is whatever cleric build with at least 3 in deprotection zone of cleric1.
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>>151826901
I wouldn't take it if not for all you faggots rejecting me into your party
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>>151827081
>being this much of a cuck
I get parties fine as a swordie without pelt, currently 278 without ever having issues
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>>151827081
Have you played the game recently? More and more people are aware of the aggro quests.
Just start a party yourself.
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>>151827142
>Have you played the game recently? More and more people are aware of the aggro quests.

And yet, no one here share which quests are.
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>>151805970
>cross cut
>cleave
>>>>>>>>cross guard
>skull swing
>helm chopper (impractical, maybe?)
>Crown/Zornhau (maybe they count as two separate debuffs?)
Am I missing something? That's 210%, but some of these debuffs don't last very long
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>>151827285
crown and zornnhau are all the same buff, they both inflict shock
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>>151827370
they do, but you can apply both to the same monster
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>>151826886
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>>151826756
You won't be able to play class related so it's worthless.
Dragoon 2 only purpose will be to add yet another damage multiplier for murmillo to show them what true damage is.
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>>151827274
There is
>bonfire quest in Linked Bridges
>one in level ~80 zone where you bro up with Hauberk
>one in Sunset Flag Forest
Maybe more.
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>>151826292
Play the game
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>>151827285
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#112226ae
tfw with this build you can reach 360% vertical slash
>cross guard
>crown
>skull swing
>cross cut
>cleave
>helm split
>montano
>shield push
>targe smash
>shield shoving
>lunge
>attaque col
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>>151827719
What do you guys mean with aggro quests? How does one use them to lure mobs in another map?
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>>151827805
learn to google, hes already spoonfed you more than enough
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>>151827737
With a slave pardoner to help keep those short duration buffs on?
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>>151827576
>implyning Dragoon debuff is for other swordman but himself
>implyning it won't deal insane damage vs large and bosses printing money
Not going Dragoon is a mistake, like not going Cannon with centaur card or Druid3
>>
>>151827941
But it is.
Also Dragoon only gets +10% damage against bosses while Fencer gets +15% pierce damage against everything, not to mention it has both a slash and a pierce 0 cd spam skill and come C3 insane crit damage and a crit resist debuff.

Dragoon is support.
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>>151827737
>passing up on dragoon2
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>>151827805
You keep the quest not completed active in questlog and every mob around will rush at you.
It's another bug, could be fixed any patch
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>>151827719
>mfw I completed all of those already

Well, it can't be helped.
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>>151828064
If you took pelt on r2 it's already too late anyway.
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>>151827941
Even with a 100% attack increase and more levels in current dragoon skills, they still won't get anywhere near fletchers damage against world bosses not named demon lords.
The only swordsman class that can currently compete with fletchers are shitnobis and thats only because they have burst.
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Hi guys

this skyline with 0 cd?
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>>151827737
good build

though if you ignore rodememe there, fencer could benefit from Vertical Slash the most I guess
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>>151828240
no
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>Guardian
>- Physical attack reduction/physical defense increase will now be applied based on a set percentage of the character&rsquo;s own physical attack and physical defense.

ayyy we got it, all pelt1 on suicide watch
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Does anyone have that picture of the guy who equipped swords in all his slots so he was just a walking sword?
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>>151828413
If it wasn't for the skill reset potion imc already gave us for the event, I would've called this an outright scummy cashgrab attempt at making people buy skill reset potions between this and concentrate changes.
With the skill reset potion however its not that bad, people can just remove the points easily.
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Guys, if I use the Stat Potion Reset, will I also lose the bonus STR/INT I gained from class changes?
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>>151828610
no, you gain back all invested points which once invested again is boosted from your class bonuses
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I finally completed my Grynas set, is it an okay set for the actual game content? As in, I can go to ET, WB and end game places while just using it +aspersion?

I was planning to make a superior royal mage set for mdef, but I'm not sure if that is worth, since I already have 2 +6 Glass Bracelet. Should I go for the set or the bracelets will be enough to later magic damage?

Endgame bros, help me please!
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What
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>>151828413
I thought the only purpose of taking pelt1 was if you wanted to pull mobs and tank them.
Don't see how +10% physical def is bad in that case.
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>>151828732
Does it filter "spic" from itself?
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>>151828059
>>151828158
We will see.
Just wait for when Dragoon2 will be god tier at WBs and as team paragon in ET
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Your king is bored. Entertain me.
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>>151828754
>-14% damage
>not bad
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>>151828924
I need mimic costume first
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>>151828754
Some use Guardian for the 18% evasion boost attribute it gives, the - atk it gave was minimal, now it's -14%. All who went pelt>doppel will probably hate this change
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>>151828705
You'll switch out your glass bracelets for poras unless you cbfed in which case you'll be using glass bracelets until 270/330 gear comes around.

Grynas/elkosh/virtov leather are the endgame sets for their respective types however with the release of barha forest in the upcoming maintenance, virtov plate is now fully craftable so grynas is no longer bis.

Grynas is still a very good set through and well worth using at endgame. With aspersion + shield you'll take literal 1s from everything.
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>>151828754
You took it for 20% evasion from guardian attribute. Now it comes with a huge % penalty to damage which sucks.
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We miss you, coffee. Now that the party bug will be fixed, we're getting back to playing as soon as we get back. Please wait warmly.
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>>151828941
>swordsman
>doing damage
Your job is to pull mobs and nothing else.
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>>151828705
Grynas is a free very good plate but from tomorrow all Virtov sets will be 4/4 craftable and it shit over most Lolopanther unless you want the +25 stat from lolopanther sets
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>>151828505
>Skill reset
What? I got only the stat reset.

By the way, didn't they remove the skill reset potion from the shop? Didn't see it anymore after they added the starter pack.
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>>151829023
>he still takes pelts over damage swordies
Well, enjoy that 8m xp/hour senpai, I guess.
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>>151829023
I can't hear you over my 20k tick cyclone
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>>151829085
>he didn't do scavenge event
ahahahah, they've given out both stat and skill reset potions anon
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>>151828705
Hakase mode desu!
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>>151828705
>caring about grynas when virtov plate is now fully craftable
lmao
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>>151829180
oh noooo111 ill surely regret this on a game on uts death troes


Come the fuck on, Anon.
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>>151825863
It's not attack ratio, it's number of targets.
Small or large, you'll still hit 15.
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>>151829021
we miss you both! ;_;
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>>151828995
>>151829048
I see thanks for the answers

>>151829267
I don't have any virtov parts, sorry, I'm poor.

>>151829194
Hi Nano
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>>151828732
It's a feature that was implemented over 2 months ago.
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>>151829267
Show me those crafted virtov plate boots.

Play the game :^)
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>>151829021
Have you bought lewd artbooks from C90 my Goddesses?
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>>151829431
workingas intended
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>mage mobs
I'd forgotten how much of a cancer they were
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>>>151829267
>not getting Grynas for free since Lv1 so by the time you hit 220 you won't need to still use lv170 trash
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>https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=603
>Recipe - Vienie Twin Blade
>http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/122136/

Goodbye Magi Two-Handed, you served me well.
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>>151829871
>aoe 1
retard
>magi 2h
retard
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>>151828995
>You'll switch out your glass bracelets for poras
Play the game.
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>>151829404
Virtov is free and untradable
You just do 240 dungeon until you get the 4 recipes you need, the dungeon can't be rushed so none bothers with it before 280 or with stable party
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>>151815890
>posting literally who waves
kys
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>>151829116
>Being unable to destroy entire packs with 7 level 10 chapparition carded Frost Cloud

Buy some fucking attributes you poorfag, if your FC is below 80 you're not even an Elememe.
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>>151830207
>he didn't switch out his glass bracelets for poras
not everyone is lazy enough to not do minigames anon
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>Has to use Dilgeles to animation cancel Claymore deploy animation

WHy?
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>>151830252

They're increasing the silver rate for this dungeon so I think after tomorrow it'll be worthwhile to do.
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>>151830458
I know people with 400+ cubes and 0 recipes, droprate is 0.5%
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>>151830658
Learn how to greentext shitter.
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I wanna go back to leveling my rogue3 but this class is so disappointing.

>backstab is a meme that's only remotely useful if you gearlock yourself with karacha
>could be a one point wonder for massive bleeding, except you can't apply bleed yourself
>basically only 2 or 3 skills work mounted, so hackapell is out of question
>vendetta has shit damage and must last hit the mob to apply the buff
>it's literally a bad divine stigma
>burrow is fun but probably won't work with mergen skills

I wanted to turn this build into a 2h bow rogue for mergen, but it feels like rogue is a bad gimmicky class right now with no progression into R8.
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>>151830458
I'd rather get the saluus rings
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>>151831734
they're uncraftable or at least phada is
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>>151831963
Gem Bracelet is a pore like droprate but it's here from the cubes
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>>151831963
The Rhevisan Bracelet I mean
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>>151832365
No it's not.
Don't be retarded, why would a white recipe have such a low droprate?
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>>151832365
Where do you get Gem Bracelet?
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What the fastest way to get a Chapparition card?
I've been making alts to do the Tenet Garden quest but it takes ages to get there.
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>>151832897
Don't fall for his memes, Gem Bracelet is still not in the game.
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>>151832897
Kalejima cubes and it's retarde rare.
All the white recipes from minigames cubes are also dropped by mobs but so far no mob had it in droplist, it might be another bartha forest drop
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Do people do parties for the demon prison? If so what depth?
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>>151830458
Are pore/pora actually in the game? I really wanted them for my Chaplain but after 3 ritual coffins and the gimmick point title I just kinda assumed they weren't implemented.
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Anyone have pictures of the hairstyles coming out tomorrow?
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>>151831357
No
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>>151832943
>takes ages
squire camp + friend carrying you in the quest means you can finish it at level 1 and get one done every 5mins or less
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>>151832943
What's so great about Chapparition cards? I feed them to the Necroventer one.
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I havent played since iCBT2. Is the game still hot but cute garbage?
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>>151833529
From kalejimas cube, I got my first pora in 92 cubes and have yet to see my second
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>>151833368

People grind at District 2.

It's also a common silver farming spot for high levels so if you don't mind not getting money you can find some 280 warlock farming for attribute money there and leech off them for really fast levels.
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>>151833529
0.5% droprate from kalejimas.
Basically don't even bother.
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>>151834110
Are you insane?
I'm selling chappariton cards at 750k right now due to how essential they are to elememes after the patch
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>>151833737
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>>151834373
Get a job loser.
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Why haven't you made a Fencer?
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>>151833529
Around 1-2% rate from what I can tell from the forums and /tosg/ posts whenever the discussion about pora comes up.
Most get theirs between 50-100 boxes.
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>>151834079
>friend
LOL
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>>151834530
I like how your cooldowns addon tells us you've went full doppel madara and can still only hit barely 10k each composee even with veniers holy bonus damage.
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>>151834530
Hair doesnt animate with Rapier equipped. IMC won't fix it.
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>>151834110
A lv10 Chapariton with card system is +10% magic attack on SP pot chug and catds stack so 7 lv10 Chappy are +70% magic attack :^)
Fun fact: Best physical version is +7% with 7 Lv 10 cards equipped
If you ever feeded chappariton cards you fucked up and if you are ever going to roll a magic user DPS you will pay 40+ talt per lv1 Chappariton, finding that boss in Tenet isn't easy too, he can spawn on every channel in all Tenet Church maps
>>
>See patch notes
>Lots of new shit being added
>Still no fix for guild boss/hamster events

GOD DAMMIT IMC, I WANT MY FUCKING HAMSTER
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>>151834231
Are the deeper districts just not as swarmed with enemies or why that one? Also funny how turn undead doesn't work properly on everything on that map except the big goat demon mobs.
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>>151834530
looks LITERALLY like an anime battle harem protagonist
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Any KR screencaps of this slootmaster hair?
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>>151834530
>not showing 20k+ per hit from prep+sept combo
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>equipable cards next patch
>no info on the bonus any cards give yet
>no card trading
I leveled that damn spider card from the mines up to 6 star but it probably will do jackshit for me.
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>>151834684
Join Clover.
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Does the card system make card drops from cubes desirable now?
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>>151834784
The op exists for a reason anon.
http://pastebin.com/PrCkZ21n

Next time I won't spoonfeed you retard-kun
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>>151835005
My apologizes. The only other general I regulary frequent has a pastebin that is 3 years old.
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>>151834965
It makes dulla worth hunting at least since its basically a guaranteed 30+ cards if you no life it for a whole day
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>>151834685

>Are the deeper districts just not as swarmed with enemies

This, yeah.
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>>151834965
Cards will be the most valuable loot
Especially Chappariton WB, thing will be farmed for the card and it will sell for 50 talt atleast
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Reminder that mages will always be cucked by swordsman :^)
>>151835227
Depending on your server, they're going for as high as 250-500k with occasional 750k or 1mil right now and the cards patch hasn't even come through yet
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>>151831647
>Going Rogue c3
Rogue is a two-circle class at best. Burrow isn't worth all the restrictions placed on it.
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>>151835005
>Templeshooter Card : [Card Slot Equip] Missile attacks have a [card count]% chance to silence for 5 seconds.
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>Silver drops increased for other dungeon instances
>New recipes added to them as well
>Failed to create instance due to exceeded server capacity
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>>151834642
Serpentine
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>>151835374
But anon, burrow lets you solo saalus and missions with ease.
You're also getting more sneak hit levels which will be like in ktos, meta once the cards patch comes around
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>>151834373
Ahahahaha Now I feel bad. I believe I've fed 2 Chapparition cards and some other stuff.
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>>151834530
Because I can take out 10 of those in less seconds.
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>>151834373
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>>151835312
Quest cards will be deleted from inventory, fucktards.
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>>151835385
mfw i have 10 TS cards saved up just to make wizards life hell
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>>151835374
>he doesn't know about ktos sneakhit werewolf abuse letting full str rogues crit reliably
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Sell Templeshooter cards to noob Sorcs
"Hey pay me 40 talt first, I come from reputable mafia guild, I won't scam you"
Receive talt
"Ok this is how it works, I card battle you and offer Templeshooter and you offer me one junk card, Chapparition usually has a 75% win rate against Templeshooter, do you have one of those?"

kek these idiots actually fall for this shit
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>>151835501
What's the earliest story quest that gives you a chap card? Tenet Church? Or does the Orsha side once where you rescue the priest also give one?
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Next level technique.
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>>151835713
Reread what i posted. There's nothing stopping a rogue c2 from using werewolf cards. Why would you waste a rank on 10% more crit rate?
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>>151836181
>wagon wheel
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>>151836181
This happens with every skill that you can animation cancel before the damage is done.
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I wonder if Sage can duplicate Ice Walls.
kToS posters, please test this when you get a chance.
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>>151835637
>level 10 card
>delete it
kyss yourself. cards aren't just for this gimmick suddenly they are used by sorcerer/necromancer
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>>151836528
They can duplicate all objects anon, its been confirmed by ktos forums that they can duplicate all objects which means stuff like fireballs and icewalls
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So whats the point of playing other classes when swordsman tree exist?
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>>151835637
Play the korean game
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>>151836181
Pags are hilarious.
Pagnationyall
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>>151836604
Oh shit.
My TRUE BUILD OF KINGS is possible then.
#MakeRCGreatAgain
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>>151836604
There's a limit at how much stuff they can duplicate?
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>>151836746
duplicating is an attribute of their damage skill, unknown what the percentage is or the limit
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>>151836692
I love the wheelchair page spawn a animation. Whenever I see it I hum the Back to the Future theme to myself
>>
>still no samurai class
>no katana 1h sword
Shit game. Hopefully jToS gets a kimono costume.
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>>151837606
Haha yeah they look like just arriving from a time or dimension travel.
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>>151837693
*tips katana*
>>
How BTFO would secretarcherclass fags be if miko gets an attribute to use bows?
>>
Whats the max stat for pets, say physical def?
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>>151838150
How deep is your wallet?
>>
Someone had posted previously that hammy don't die now but after the time is up you can't feed them. Is this true? Wouldnt having no stamina forever mean they're bad for actual mount classes?
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>>151838258

Deep enough
>>
>Go to lvl 130 dungeon entrance
>See some one with team name 'hol up'
>open settings click show first name
>Guy is named 'ay yo'

Dindus are invading hide your white bois
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>>151834689
Needs to be a tracksuit tbqh.
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>>151837693
Katana is not 1 hand.
>>
Any leaked miko info yet?
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>>151838546
what about your boipussy, fuccboi?
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>>151838758
it will be shit

t. hidden class connoisseur
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>>151838824

Deeper than my wallet
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>>151834530
>less damage than stabbing
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>>151838839
Good. I can take it for my shit chappu R7-8 whatever it turns out to be
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>>151834689
Man, if TP rename wasn't so fucking high cost, I'd make a character with your average weeb name like Kagerou Iwatani or whatever, go doppelmadara with your short black spiky hair and school costume and go full blown harem protagonist. Bonus for using macros to shout cringy shit.
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>>151839143
I'm with you, buddy. Though I'm holding my chap waiting for R8 release for Kabbalist Merkabah attribute that gives +holy damage and the calc -> attacks, alongside with Inquisitor Wheel and how it works. If neither are interesting enough, I'll just fucking meme it up to eleven and go Miko.
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>>151838975
stabbing doesn't have zero cd
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>it's a party members start flirting during the mission episode

I.. I shouldn't be here
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>>151839230
Has anyone else ended up in parties with this dumbass RC that abuses the ability CD add-on to add ultra cringe naruto style jutsu to all his abilities?

>>151839438
If the wheel works like icewall I don't think damage lines spin it faster.
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IIIIIIIIMMMMMMMMCCCCCCCCCCCCC
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>>151839686
>Has anyone else ended up in parties with this dumbass RC that abuses the ability CD add-on to add ultra cringe naruto style jutsu to all his abilities?

That was EXACTLY who I was thinking, I thought he dropped that. IIRC he starts the mission saying something like "Hello my friend" to everyone and using the bow emote or something and "Good job, everyone!" with the OK emote when you kill the tree.

I laughed my ass off at it. Good to know he keeps doing it.
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>>151839797
>3) World Maps
>- Maps will now appear in different colors depending on their level
>- Maps with dungeons will now include a dungeon icon
>- Added a function to check for recommended dungeons
My guess is that they fucked up something while preparing for this change
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>>151839989
Nah Saalus Convent is confirmed new starting area.
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Sages will be able to dupe inquisitor wheels, right?
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>>151840740
Generally speaking, if your skill is linkable than its an object which means sage can copy
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Is this an old known bug?
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I want to reroll doppelmadara.
Please give me skill distribution.
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Are the silver anvils the final item in the box event?
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>>151841343
ye you get 2
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>haven't gotten a like in over a week
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>>151841050
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/n9gkcjoegm/
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>>151841704
I'll give you one at the meeting tomorrow
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>>151841760
>tomorrow
Isn't that today?
>>
>>151841050
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11266699.23334554.253545.5a8591aabf.1a315a617181

Doppelsöldner's skill distribution will depend heavily on how c3 will be, you might not want to invest that much on Cyclone if Redel and Zucken turn out to be godlike. You could always spend a skill reset point if you have a spare one.

I personally don't find Frenzy to be that useful, and those other Barbarian skills with no points invested in are going to get buffed so there's that.

Kektar will be great with the buff, wagon wheel is shit, reason why it's not even worth bothering with it.


Highlander3 might be a decent alternative to this thanks to this new Vertical Slash, but muh stun and muh warcry are really good
>>
looking into a new game. I have some questions.
hows the community?
are the bugs game breaking?
Is endgame continuously challenging?
d-do you want to go grab some coffee sometime?
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>>151841813
different timezone hun
>>
3 more days, then we get some fucking info on r8 and i can finally safely reroll

this is suffering
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>>151842043
>how's the community
Normies and whiteknights keep trying to defend IMC when it has no merit. All of /tosg/ is usually friendly with each other though, and it's not like we're at odds with the outsiders. We're actually a pretty big faction within the game.

>game breaking bugs
There's always tons of bugs. The game is broken on a fundamental level. But it's still fun and enjoyable, and exploits haven't ruined the game yet.

>endgame
Earth Tower is endgame PvE, while there's somewhat decent PvP and GvG leagues for non-carebear players.

>stuttering
You'll fit right in.
>>
In a lot of screen caps I notice have a metric ton of recipes and weapons.

Do you guys not sell them?

I don't quite understand.
>>
>>151842349
best support/healing class?

also I'm serious about that coffee.
>>
Is golden bell or iron skin worth having a level in them?

I figure Golden Bell is decent at lvl 1 just for the attribute.
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>>151842557
Have you never met hoarders who never use a single hp pot in a game all the way to endgame? Its the same principle, some people just like hoarding
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>>151842349
>decent PvP and GvG leagues
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>>151842745
For healing, you need Cleric2 for extra heal tiles. Support/buffing can't go wrong with Priest, Plague Doctor, and Krivis.
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>>151842745
Clerics are the healing/support archetype, but wizards also have some support skills with linker and chronomancer. Really depends on how much suffering you want to go through.
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>>151842745
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4122ba8f.152535.16213a42516595.11243545.253585.21314155617195.1533455161
Best build :^)
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>>151842778
>being a monk
>>
>large patch tomorrow
>Claymore attribute still bugged
>only get 22k damage in lvl130 dungeon when you should be getting 30k plus
>monks are laughing at you

Feels terribad
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>>151843002
>claymore
>>
>>151843114
The best part about Claymore is that when they will the attribute the damage will be actually good and flying mobs terminator ;_;
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http://www.tosbase.com/database/quests/60013/
Is level 160 not high enough or this quest? I see the quest marker pointing to a location but there is no one.
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>>151843303
>takes ten years to set up
>another two to activate
>if you're knocked back while activating it, the cooldown starts running
>35s cd with no overheat
Why aren't you just using Multi Shot is beyond me
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how easy will it be to get monster cards after the patch?
>Monster Cards can be freely equipped and unequipped. Unequipping a Monster Card, however, will cause its EXP to decrease
does this mean i need to get 7 more 10 star cards for my alt?...
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>>151839581
>He doesn't queue with his crush so you can have comfy mission rp
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>>151843463
Yep. Assuming they keep quest boss card rewards in your can grab copies of the lower level quest bosses by rerunning alts
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>>151843650
They are removing card rewards from quest but Tenet questline Chappariton drops it so i dunno, maybe it will still be farmable with alts because the card is a drop and not a reward
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>>151843463
>7 more
8 more
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>>151844268
kys shitter, don't you have a new guild chat where you can shitpost in?
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>>151844268
every hour is cuteposting hour!
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>>151844268
Cute never ends!
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>>151844268
cute!
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>>151844268
go erp on orsha's roof, fag
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>>151844268
wrestle posting is fine as well
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I think I made a few mistakes
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>>151844268
Never.
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>>151844719
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>>151844719
>a few
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>>151844719
reroll
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>>151844719
0 Aspersion
Max Blessing
Max Mass Heal
Max Stone Skin
Max Resurrection
1 Monstrance
1 Sacrament
Rest in Revive
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>>151844983
>reroll
Everyone got a free skill reset potion.
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>>151845613
Where's my free circle reset =|
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is everyone going to bend over and let crimson take all the TP?
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>>151845992
There is no guild strong enough to stop them
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>>151845992
better than desu desu
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>clerics without priest in tbl

kill yourself.
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>>151845992
There's just no way that we can coordinate without using something like discord but you faggots tend to sperg out at the thought of using your mics.
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>ACCIDENTALLY PUT AN ADDITIONAL POINT INTO CON INSTEAD OF INT

NOW I HAVE 61 IN CON

RUINED???>:?>
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>>151846820
yes, use your reset potion
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>>151845992
Crimson is unbeatable right now. They got the numbers, the right classes, the equipment, the coordination to pull it off.
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>>151846952
And you got retards.
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>>151846952
Watch them break apart from fighting over TP.
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Any open slots in any Klaipeda guilds? I am so lonely.
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>>151846983
We're the cutest retards, though.

The disparity will get even larger now. Crimson is also holding the most Boss Cards in the game right now. They're getting a huge boost from it.
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>>151846484
>have priest1
>WTF WHERE IS YOUR REVIVE AND SACRAMENT FUCKING NOOB KYS

>have priest2
>WTF WHERE IS YOUR STONESKIN YOU SHITTER KYS

>have priest3
>WHY ARE YOU NOT CHAPLAIN FUCKING HELL YOU LOST US THE GAME KYS

>have chaplain
>HAHA NICE FUTUREPROOF BUILD TOO BAD YOU'RE USELESS KYS

This is you. Calm down.
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If time runs out in TBL what determines the winner?
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>>151846952
>coordination
This does even matter. All you need is a cheesy core of unbalanced builds and that's it.
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>>151846952
I could beat crimson alone with my superpowers but I don't see 2nd strongest guild recruiting,
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>>151847345
HP left.
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>>151847345
Absolutely random.
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>>151846952
>>151847478
Thanks for applying to Crimson, guys! :kissing_heart:
Some of you already joined and I'm very happy to see you guys around.

As of now, we only have a few slots left until IMC decided to increase the guild slot in the future.

At the moment, we are currently looking for people who can participate at GvG both at 9pm and 12am server time. But if you can't attend at both times, at least I hope you can attend at 12am one.

As for the list of classes that we urgently need :
1. Necromancer c2, must have Wizard c3 and Linker
2. Cannoneer, must have Scout and Falconer
3. Krivis c3, must have Cleric c2, preferrably with Druid c2/Oracle-Kabbalist
4. Dievdirby c3, must have Cleric c2, preferrably with Oracle-Kabbalist/PD
5. Psycokino c3, preferrably with Wizard c3 and Warlock

We prioritize players with high playing hours, players who are available for GvG, and players with multiple characters (especially if they have the characters that we are looking for) so they can fill multiple roles in GvG.
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>>151847646
>tfw no likeable tosg pvp guild to at least get the leftover placings
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>>151846952
>tfw they're not insufferable cunts like valhalla and desu so you can't see them as villains
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>>151844454
This ohayou is all wrong
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>>151847928
They are cancer regardless
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>>151846983
>>151847119
But didn't your wargod say that reaching level cap and getting good gear and getting rich from making PvE characters first was a waste of time and the only futureproof thing was to theorycraft your own snowflake PvP characters? What happened to his guild now? How many people have left already?
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>>151847928
Yes they are.
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>>151847646
>:kissing_heart:
I'd rather put 5 dicks in my ass.
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>>151848578
Tell the truth anon
You were going to do that anyways
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>>151844454
FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING DELETE THIS I CAN'T EVEN LOOK AT MY MONK THE SAME WAY WITHOUT BEING REMINDED OF THIS ABOMINATION
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>>151846952
>>151847646
>>151847928
Getting crushed by a bunch of normy chads and their gamer girls laughing and joking about it on voice chat. Is this what being a cuck feels like?
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Uhmmm
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>>151848302
Bad Apple has a fraction of the silver and attained similar results. The major factor are numbers and build diversity quality. Having high level attributes and some overupped gear helps, but it's not what wins GvG.
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>>151848939
>normy chads

Crimson couldn't be further from that. They're hardcore, all-day players. They've certainly earned their spot, there's no argument against that.
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>>151846952
but they have the most NEETs.
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>>151848996
It's all about having oracles and cryos
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>>151847036

Join Database anon! The guild is pretty new but slowly filling up, and everyone in it is pretty chill. Just add Cattly and drop him a message when you catch him on.
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>>151848996
>but it's not what wins GvG
Right, of course, it's the """organisation""" and the """skill""".

You disgust me.
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>>151849853
No anon, he's simply saying that having the numbers is more important.
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>>151849853
>>151850097
If Gear was all that mattered, the Orsha mafia, Desu, and even Diamond would be ranked much higher. Obviously the attributes and equipment help, but it's not BECAUSE of them that Crimson is winning. Rather, the same dedication that they pointed towards PvE is now being aimed at GvG, which is why they're so successful. They're ultra-organized and dedicated, and nobody can match up to them.

That Crimson is winning is only fair.
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>>151849853

Not him, but he's right. A team with mediocre gear/levels/attributes can easily beat a team with far better farmed individual players if they're coordinating stuff well around key skills like ausrine pushes, counter spells, etc. as well as calling out all important friendly and enemy info. Everyone being on voice together is kind of required for this though.

Speaking from experience
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>>151850640
You win if you outcheese the other team.
So you need the right broken builds with overleveled attributes. Organisation and coordination come at the very very last position in terms of importance.
Even the money your pour into your computer is more important since having 20fps instead of 10 is a tremendous advantage.
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>>151851301
>Organisation and coordination come at the very very last position in terms of importance
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simple really, crimson has the most autists that even tosg are normies in comparison
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>>151851485
tosg are normies in comparison to a lot of these guilds desu
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>>151841981
Why dont you take pelt c1?
I thought it was easier to swash then cyclone for fast killing mob.
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>tfw you'll never join Crimson and get laughed at by their cute asian girls for being such a normie
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>>151851301
>Organisation and coordination come at the very very last position in terms of importance.
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>>151851656
>bringing a shield to a zweihänder build
> muh taunt vs cartar stroke, crown, cross guard and the 2h sword mastery, now that Guardian decreases atk by a percentage
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#113666eg.1123354551.14253541.5a62718198aaba
need some advice for barb3fencer1templar.
How do I spend the rest of skill points?
> inb4 reroll
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>>151851485
most of tosg are waveslaves, I'm posting from work myself right now
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>>151851906
I prefer swashbuckling + costume to some shitty skills i'll never use and a shitty passive
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>>151852108
>costume
Alright, gaylord, do as you please
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>>151851301
>outcheese

So playing a confirmed legit good meme build is "cheese" while theorycrafting your own garbage rainbow build is what you expect most people to do?
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>>151852196
I will
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>>151852202
No. Playing cheesy combos is the right thing to do. There's obviously no reason not to play to win.

But cheese is still cheese and it's what wins games both in tbl and gbl.
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>>151852202
Futurecucks say the darndest things when trying to justify their failures and retardation.
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>>151851906
Well I have a good ping so I have no problem swapping weapon, also putting weapon on quick shortcut really help.
You dont need a shield to swash, any offhand weapon is work. For example I only using dirk dagger to swash then swapping for 2h weapon on my doppelgoon build.
Also is 2h mastery better than buffed lv10 concentrate?
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>>151852457
>everybody better than me is cheesing
you're awful at everything you do in life aren't you
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>>151853084
Yes. If only I was as skilled as Vanzel or any of the top 10 kabakikes.
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>>151853393
>15 v 15 gvg is the same as random RNG party matchmaking
retard

Also Vanzel is literally bug-abusing and a good player on top of that

Same as the Kabbakikes in the top 10
I've made short work of alot of Kabbalist that are just shit at this game even if they have similar builds to the ones in the top 10
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>>151853039
>You dont need a shield to swash, any offhand weapon is work.
But you're using a two handed sword, that's the whole bloody point
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is running 217 worth it for the exp? something like 1 level per run?
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>>151854018
You're better off just doing truffles or questing
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>>151854018
It's really not, you'll never get a party together to do it and it's like 1/3 of a level per run or something stupidly low like that.

Do Alameth or if you're just trying to get to R7 as fast as possible sprint through high level maps for the xp cards.
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>>151854094
but I would benefit for a chance of animus or otrava, so is the exp good?
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>>151853875
Obviously, if you aren't braindead AND have an MLG Pro PVP build then it's perfectly fair that you get a high rank.

But if you don't have the right amount of cheese, then no matter how much of a progamer you are, you'll always be a sub 100 shitter.
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>>151854236
Yeah its decent, I used to rush the 217 for animus and gained a couple levels from that over time since you have to kill mobs for it

Problem is probably finding a party that won't just do rushes


>>151854256
Then why call it cheese
It's literally making or having good builds and playing them to their potential
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>>151854563
thank you good anon
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>>151854563
Because creating a game with 80 classes where only 3 or 4 are relevant is shit design, it's the literaly definition of a gimmick
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>>151844454
that one is literally hitler. stop posting that fucking downy. fucking double nigger.
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>>151854236
If I remember correctly, a full run used to yield about 5~10% when I was 220-ish. The problem is that no one queues for a full run since grinding gives much better exp/hr and those looking for Animemes aren't looking to kill everything.
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>>151854964

You have to learn that some builds are better than others, and there's definitely more than 3 or 4 viable builds for 5v5 arena alone

Some builds are better in gvg compared to arena, some builds are better in 2v2 compared to 5v5 and vice versa

There's a lot more good and viable builds depending on what you're trying to do in this game than you make it out to be.

Yeah of course your costume or special snowflake build with bad synergy that is just inefficient and bad at everything won't make the cut when you compare it to balanced out builds specced for the right purpose.
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Ohayou Is now recruiting!

We are a New guild of Old Friends, we are currently looking for players with the same mindset as ourselves,
staying comfy and having fun in a drama fwee zone!
Our goals are TBL and doing Guild missions soon
We offer Leeching, Good Builds and being bullied
Pm Beethoven for a invite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nug5_-ujjnM
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>>151854964
Playing only the 3 or 4 relevant classes is the complete opposite of a gimmick.

A 5th class that works because of a ridiculous trick that nobody wants to do would be the gimmick.
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>>151855440
The issue is that the power gap is ridiculous. It's natural for minmaxed builds made specially for PvP to be better than generic builds, but they're more than that, they're basically I-win buttons. Player skill is irrelevant, I've been in the top 10 before just from abusing broken builds and I'm shit myself.
When you open the rankings and realize there are less than 10 swordsmen and archers in the top 100 you know there's something very wrong with the game.

>>151855985
I didn't make it clear, but when I said it's a gimmick I meant the fact one of the main selling points of the game was there being an insane amount of different classes. That's a gimmick.
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>>151855935
Beet why do I never see you in 5v5 man

Is your build just shit for it? Whats your personal opinion on why you can't make the cut into the top at least

Or have you already given up on 5v5?
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>>151856286

migrate
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>>151856142
I quit tbl last week to focus on my shinobi
I dislike 5v5 because I have to rely on teammates
and in 2v2 I can 2v1 70% of the time
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>>151853973
>Alt Z
>Swash
>Alt Z

Do you have cerebral palsy?
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>>151856906
Ah too bad,
makes me almost wanna play some 2v2 to give you a run for your money again, but 5v5 is too fun to ignore.

Well GL with your guild looks comfy
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>joined a guild
>noone ever talks unless i start a conversation
should i just find another? sigh, I'm so lonely
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>>151857602
They're talking in party within their inner circles
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>>151857659
i know.
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