Tree of Savior General /tosg/

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/Ohayou/

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>>151715312

>>151715056
The one being reported does it by using an oracle's change until he gets a dungeon mob and then pulling it to the person he wants to kill. The screenshot in the other post is a a cleric joking around and isn't trying to or able to kill anybody.

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>>151715312

fuckin dvine is a degenerate autistic piece of shit, choke on frog cock dumbass

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>>151715458
You can't hurt me, silly anon

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Fwee

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>>151715506
is pet ai still retarded

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>>151715056
the guy is some salty botter who sits to regen mana then constantly repositions in another spot if he's hit by bees. so i used bees and oracle changed monsters to kill him repeatedly.

i killed him about 5 times then he started staring at his screen waiting for me to try more so i just taunted him and started playing dota while he was waiting or me to do something.

>>151715572
Oh the irony of macrofags shitting at botters.
This doesn't even go into the issue of your autism or salt levels. Jesus christ, you sound like a 12 year old retarded brat from the chat.

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>>151715312
Ohayou

>>151715572
based puppey lost TI so hard he had to come to tosg for banter

>>151712737
I can't believe I ever thought dvine might be not that bad and its all a /tosg/ meme. What a cancerous piece of shit.

Oh, I just typed up something in the previous thread since I didn't realise a new one started. Long story short, new player to this game and thinking of trying this build.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41227788.152545.152a456595.122535485565.2a36415661718194

Is it easy to get wood for dievdirby skills and do different monsters drop different wood or is it all randomised?

Also, can I ignore strength and dexterity and only focus on constitution, intelligence and spirit?

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Uhmm, when is Mr. Kim going to fix party questing?

>>151715494
ill hurt you ingame what is your ign

>>151715886
Cengin

>>151715843
Your build is very very bad.
What exactly is your goal? Pvp? Pve?
This isn't even going into issues like no maxed safety zone or dumping more than a single point into monstrance

>>151715886
Koenig

>>151715726
>salt
>taking this garbage game seriously
how retarded are you? i get 5 fps in this piece of crap game then i launch dota2 on the same computer and get 60fps in 10v10.

delusional little faggot, go do some minigame and blame your teammates.

>>151716006
Do you understand the irony of you whining about others "taking this garbage game seriously" when you're the one shitposting non-stop about it and you're the one getting buttmad in chats about it?
Sounds like you're the only one "taking this garbage game seriously".

>>151715980
Completely PvE, I'm thinking.

I didn't really understand the point of safety zone, since I assumed blocking X attacks would fall apart in large groups of mobs or DoT or multi hit attacks.

Monstrance sounded good, boosts DEX while debuffing defense and evasion of enemies. What's wrong with it?

>>151716147
whatever makes you sleep at night you delusional little faggot

>>151716147
are you good at this game or something

>>151716006
>taking this garbage game seriously
You literally take this game more seriously than any other person in this community. Nobody has spent as much time raging about this game, the people in it, or the things going on in it as you. You realize that, right?

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We need porn

>>151716182
dex boost doesn't scale with level, dex boost is auto applied to whole party on cast, circle debuff from monstrance is worthless in normal pve and only for bosses, waste of points for other more important skills, etc etc.

>>151715565
It basically doesn't exist.
The AI breaks literally randomly at times.

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>>151716263

>>151716263
Please stop posting Capyba porn. Even censored by Ohaynig it is unwholesome.

>>151716202
yes keep using ad hominems shitposter-chan, maybe you'll prove something one day to your fellow retards :^)

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>>151716365
simply ebin imc

>>151716292
Alright, how is this then?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41227788.152535.153545556595.122535485565.2a35415561718196

>>151716374
thats not Capyba
Atleast it's not supposed to be

>dvine get buttblasted and quits
>still comes to tosg cause he just can't let go
He's so triggered at people talking about him he has to come and periodically check tosg so he can defend himself online on an anonymous image board. What an autist.

>>151716263
dont censor it with this ugly ohayou please

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Reminder that R10 archer will be cossack!

>>151717107
Hanaming ohayou without Koening when?

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>>151715312
/Ohayou/!

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>When your teammate listens and it works

How useful is a Pardoner's simony scrolls? I'm not entirely sure what the point is, especially if some skills require a stat you don't use or something. I guess there might be some good combos you could use or something, but that seems like it would rely on the Pardoner taking a specific path or something. But even then the list of Simony-able skills is kinda small?

Can you use it to use skills twice while one is on cool down?

>>151716809
>little delusional faggot
>so triggered he makes up stories about somebody quitting while they're logged into the game as always
what kind of autistic mouth breather does this?

http://knowledgenuts.com/2014/03/04/the-man-who-permanently-raised-his-hand-to-the-heavens/

Anyone here who's a sadhu, raise your hand

>>151717174
that's be ok

koenig is cute but that ohayou is not

>>151717404
Hmmm, he told me the same.

>>151717694
nah, pretty sure no one even likes that fat piece of shit loser koenigger
hanamings are the be st

>>151717790
He seems like a pretty cool dude. It's rare to find someone who will give strategies a go after losing the first round, most people freak out after round 1 and won't listen at all.

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>>151717174
I guess it would look something like this?

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>LucoV running chrono with vubbe fighter mace
>While Kirt rolls in at 200 miles per hour and iron hooks
Clever. Really close game. First time I've seen a support wizard roll with vubbe fighter.

>these fucking matches where you expect an easy win but instead it turns out that all 4 of your teammates are literally retarded and it was 1v5 from the beginning
Hurts the most.

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>>151716263
>>151717107
>>151717174

>>151718328
I thought you were skipping this week? You could have said something.

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>>151718006
>up against 2 clerics, one being a diev3
>partner just face rushes them and dies instantly twice, leaving me to 1v2 them, and somehow I win
>tell him not to rush them because they have invincibility at the start of the 3rd round
>"ya"
>he rushes them again
>we won anyway

Can you remove counterspell with counterspell? What about reversi?

>>151718472
Thats worse

>>151718672
Pretty much am. Decided to take a break from the whole level rush thing. 2v2 changes so much week to week. Last week was fletchers and kabbalists, this week is catas and nearly every match my teammate had zoomy and called out the matchup classes before start.

>>151718905
a little huge hana, i'llmake it smaller later

>>151718969
Dumb backwoods nigger, press f4 and enter spectators to see your matchup.

>>151719131
When I tried that I wasn't on the top of the list and for some reason can't scroll down. Does that actually work for you?

>>151717416
Pardoner's Simony isnt really that useful but if you have a krivis pardoner you can make Dainos scrolls which are really useful because they can get pricey but so few people go krivis nowadays.

I never tested using scrolls on a character that can cast the spell but when you consider that potions all go on CD, I think its the same aspects

>>151719171
It works for anyone but you, grandpa.

>>151719171
>>151718969
WOW, didn't know you were that illiterate. Perhaps you should go watch tv or smth.
rofl

>>151719131
t. miss info

your own match never shows and cant scroll

>>151719230
Guess I'm just retarded. I'll try it next time I go in and swap the resolution if it fails to scroll.

>>151719301
play the game

>>151717195
>Beets leaves and turns another thread meme into a guild name

>>151719131
if you do it as soon as you load in you'll see your own match most of the time. If it's not there it's probably been overwritten by a newer match already.

I need post session therapy.

>>151719613
Makes sense. I usually pop corpse jar and greet my teammate when I first get in so that would explain why I didn't see it. Thanks.

>>151719217
I ain't going Krivis so maybe I'll stick less points into simony or even change class. Thanks.

>>151719728
if you're going PD Pardoner is a great class to have. PD's Incineration and the new PDc2 poison gas spell are all DoT. Discerning evil makes every status/dot last 10/12 seconds longer which is incredible when you think about it.

>>151719798
Nah, I'm going Oracle. Currently my build is this.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41224a88.152535.153545556595.14253145.253585.2a35415561718196

>>151719863
good build

>>151719006
Ohayou Hanamming or nothing

>>151719660
What happened, anon? The gym or your daily box quest/party quests/130 solo usually are pretty therapeutic after TBL.

>>151720147
Ahh ok, but later. Gonna sleep.

Some days ago I asked some help for a sorcerer PvP build, focused on DPS. People recommended me circle configs but I never actually asked about skill allocation. I literally have no idea about the skills besides the descriptions, haven't played since prelaunch and dropped the game because of all the issues at that time, so I'd really love if someone would give some feedback about this build, anything would help:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21117666.1a354a6a7585.11243545.1f216e8595a5

Also I'm currently almost at wiz3, with 10 points on energy bolt, 5 on sleep, 5 on reflect, 5 on surespell and saving the last 4 because I don't really know if I should save them for energy bolt 15 or reflect shield 10.

>>151719863
I'd drop Pardoner for Bokor C2 then and you'd have a super cancerous PvP build. Pardoner gives you nothing in that build. Oracle simony scrolls are worthless.

>>151720297
the standard for wiz3 is max sleep, max surespell, max quickcast, max missiles, 1 earthquake and lethargy and preference for the remaining points.

>you can equip weapons and equipment in slots that don't even exist
just had a battle against a warlock who had their gravity pole hit 40k for each hit
the fuck

>>151719660
They had no cleric and we had c2d3d2. My current nemesis was on the other side and I expected to win this match. I did my usual 3 second routine, took ausrine and stepped forward to take the heat. While I was obliterating this one guy, I noticed that my team was somehow dying. It struck me that they were retarded and saw ausrine for the first time. Druid was especially bad because being a shitter with no anti cc, he was losing to cata with restrain. He was incapable of cure or silence tree or owls to melt catas face to save his worthless hide. If they told me that they were this shit and this would've been 1v5, I would've been prepared to play accordingly. It was not impossible to solo them using aursine and retards as bait. But since I was surprised to see how awful they were, I was simply stumped and couldn't do a thing to save the match. As soon as it ended they left so quickly and I couldn't explain them just how shit they were to lose something like this.

>>151720297
Those 5 points in Reflect hurt, now you don't have enough to get EQ and Lethargy.
You should max Sleep, it's standard.

For Sorc3 (consider Warlock instead), drop Evocation entirely, it's hot garbage.
Distribute the 5 points into everything else, like this: https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21117666.1a3f45657585.11243545.1f213141516f7185a5

What skills are worth getting for a QS3 other than Running Shot and Caltrops?

>>151720390
Lethargy for the attribute and earthquake for the CC I guess? Gonna drop two points from shield to lethargy and EQ.
Any other suggestion anon? And thank you for that, I would've missed it otherwise.

>>151720575
stone shot and pavises

>>151720575
stone shot if you care about pvp

>>151720414
>only just now finding out about hook and its chinese variants
its been used by rmt bots since icbt2 anon, you're kinda late

>>151720571
>Those 5 points in Reflect hurt, now you don't have enough to get EQ and Lethargy.
>You should max Sleep, it's standard.

Should I get a skill reset potion? I have 160 TP from the pre-release thing.

Also, when I asked the other day, some anons said sorc2 > warlock was a PvE build, but I would change the build if warlock is indeed good for PvP too, or at least better than sorc3.

>>151720487
You sound like you've got a pretty level head, anon. A lot of people would have taken that worse.

I wouldn't bother explaining to your team why you lost. They're all agitated, possibly on tilt, if they stick around. They're not likely to learn from what you have to say, they're more likely to call you retarded or provide their side of the argument, which is likely to anger you further, and in the end accomplish little.

Try to throw out as much information in the buff stage as you can. Some classes like necro have this part hard, since we have to pop corpses, skeletons, shoggoth, surecast and quick cast, and there's not really a whole lot of free time. If you've got time, though, just type out whatever they need to know as fast as you can. Even stuff like "USE AUSRINE" or "counterclockwise around the statue" may be enough to draw their attention to it.

Does your nemesis know he's your nemesis? I could see that making it especially annoying.

>>151720342
I ain't interested in PvP, but I was thinking I was lacking damage in this build. Still, even without simony Pardoner has some good support skills...

I don't understand some of Bokor's skills though. What is the point of Bwa Kayiman?

>>151721345
>I ain't interested in PvP
Drop Bokor entirely. Bokor is a circle that exists completely for PVP and is pretty bad at everything else.

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>>151720848
If you're still Wiz2, you should just reroll, really.
It's not a lot of work to get back to where you are, certainly not worth the reset potion (use on Tokens instead).
Reflect Shield is useless past the rank or two of the game, you'll regret getting it.

Sorc3 has a bigger TS and more Bats, while Warlock has Dark Theurge.
I'd say both are relatively equal in TBL, with Sorc3 having a slight edge right now because of JP + Bats + MM combo can blow the entire enemy team up (JP is bugged right now).
But if they fix JP they're a lot more equal, and DT provides a lot more defense against Catas and surprise Cannon Blasts.
And with Warlock you're open to Warlock C2 at R8 giving you a ton more PvE than a Sorc3 build (I'm probably going Warlock1 unless Sage can duplicate summons).

tl;dr Sorc for huge JP combos (which might be nerfed) and 5fps GvG, Warlock for comparable PvP power with much better PvE.

>>151721384
>is pretty bad at everything else
bokor is great, it just needs funding for its attributes which costs shit tons as well as non-boss scenarios

>>151721484
>DT provides a lot more defense against Catas
Play the game.

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>>151712737

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>>151717195

>>151720297
>5 Sleep
>10 Reflect Shield
>0 Earthquake
>0 Lethargy
>5 Evocation
>5 Desmodus
>only 14 Bats
>0 Riding
>0 Hold
>0 Morph
>>151720848
>TP on 5 wizard points instead of character slots or something
and
>sorc2-warlock
>PvE
Sheeit, nigger, I'm amazed you didn't have level 15 earthquake in there.

>>151721384
Alright then. Dropped Bokor, took up another Cleric circle and ended up with this.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41112288.1a2a3f546175.153545556595.2a35415561718196

Also tried swapping out on of the cleric circles for Kris instead.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41123288...153545.2a35415561718196

I guess I could swap out Khris for Paladin as well, but I'm not sold on Sadhu at all.

>>151721484
Dark theurge alone out damages everything you gain from going sorc2->3. Better yet, it's the best defensive spell in the wizard tree since it can absorb aoe with limited aoe attack ratio in pvp, and in pve monsters sometimes outright single target the spirits. It's the perfect compliment to sorcerer, since you can send your summon out to attack at range while having an instagib shield at melee range. The only problem is sorc doesn't really synergize with warlock beyond that because summons can't trigger invocation, which according to the r8 previews is going to be a significant part of warlock2.

I wish desmodus was a bat shield or something. Sorc is stuck in an awkward place right now because the c3 is mediocre and the more advanced classes don't seem to combo well with it.

>>151721995
>sorc has no synergy with warlock
>he forgets cat buffs such as dark att buff and aoe ratio

>>151721927
Arcane Energy is bad. In fact, the only time it should ever be used that I know of is with the damage attribute to pop scouts out of stealth (no I won't delete this.)

The only Oracle2 I know of said to take 1 level in change and leave it. He DOES PVP though, so maybe that changes things if you don't. Oracle2 is really underwhelming but if you're going Oracle3 at least Oracle3 looks pretty decent with their godcircle.

Priest2 is a PVP gimmick for Revive, so your second build is probably not worth it. You can buy daino scrolls if you need them for PVE.

>>151722078
Yeah buffing the aoe attack ratio of pixel of agony and mastema really dramatically improves the class.

>>151721672
Oh if they know what they're doing and it's 2v2 maybe, then they can outrange it.
But in lag of 5v5 and with your team and Bats around you, they tend to just charge straight into you.

>>151721995
TS can't trigger Invocation, but Bats should be able to, given all the times I've died to 7fold.
Sorc3 buffs someday!

>>151721484
I was actually thinking on rerollin. I don't think I can salvage this character since it seems every wiz3 build requires to not fuck up picking reflect shield.

>Sorc3 has a bigger TS
Whats TS? Sorry my ignorance.

And now I'm more confused as what to pick. Seems like warlock would be the best pick for upcoming patches. Also, someone told me that 1:1 CON-INT was the best choice for PvP, but your screenshot clearly deviates from that. I would like some help with that, if it's not too much to ask.

>>151721893
Did you read my post anon? I barely played on pre-release and I'm just coming back, I literally have no idea about the skills in upper circles. I'm going sorcerer because I always liked summoner classes in this games, and PvP because I feel like end-game PvE in MMOs depend heavily on content updates, unlike PvP.
As for the sorc2>warlock for PvE, as I said, some anon told me that when I asked some days ago, and I'm trying to reconfirm that today.
Don't bully.

>>151722120
How is +30% SP bad?

>>151722141
>1 spell on a 35 second cooldown which is single target to trigger invocation
>good synergy
The majority of damage of any sorc build is the summon, which is completely voided for the core gimmick of warlock. Elememelocks making a million spirits from blowing up a million mobs with meme cloud is good synergy. Killing 5 linked with to make 5 spirits every 35 seconds is just really inefficient, but at the same time dark theurge is so good it's really the best option to take just for that, which is why sorc is at such an awkward place right now.

>>151722361
Higher max SP doesn't help you keep the bar full, and classes have skills that take 1% max SP per second that you will actually be harming with it. Worse yet, it takes up a buff slot.

>>151722361
Because sp pots exist and sp literally doesn't matter

>>151722216
Templeshooter, the only boss summon worth using at the moment (Rexipher summon soon?).

Just do your character, by the time you need to choose your class for R7, you'll have a better grasp on what you want.
Play TBL and see if you're fine with just a stronger TS and Bats (which is basically all of Sorc3), or do you want the amazing skill that is Dark Theurge?

I have 61 CON invested with nearly 14k HP in TBL, I find it's usually enough.
You'll probably want more (80-100+ invested), but 1:1 INT:CON sounds a bit too much for my tastes.

>>151722396
I agree that Sorc's awkward with an Invocation-focused class, I just mentioned Bats as they're technically summons that can trigger it.
Doesn't make it good synergy, you'll have to mostly depend on warlock skills to get your spirits.

>>151722436
>>151722497
Alright, this then?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41112288.1a293f556175.153545556595.36415a6171819a

>>151720595
>>151720661
What level of Stone Picking and Stone Shot are enough for pvp?

>>151722216
Even if you had never heard of ToS before and went in blind, you'd have no excuse to put 0 in riding. People were fapping over the idea of riding a monster back before we knew how anything in the game worked.

If you don't want to get bullied, go spectate arena. Watching just a few matches from top wizards would answer a lot of your questions.

>>151722785
Don't take cleric3, its unneeded 99% of the time and guardian saint is a unneeded skill outside trolling purposes and very specific pvp situations.
Max blessing and go full spr with maybe 30-50con due to it scaling with your spr stat, either max aspersion so your team doesn't need to rely on pardoner jew aspersion buffs or only put a single point in it.
Make sure to have 1 monstrance since the dex is granted to whole party on cast.
Sacrament is garbage and should not have more than a single point, its one of your worst scaling skills.
Either max change so you can use it to troll afkers and botters or just have it at 1 point as either way you'll have enough for the change attribute.
Heal is core so always max it, at least 3 in deprotected zone.

Tons of other issues as well but meh I cbfed typing

What's with these totally new questions that reeks of 0 self-research?

Alive game?

>>151722732
>ust do your character, by the time you need to choose your class for R7, you'll have a better grasp on what you want.
>Play TBL and see if you're fine with just a stronger TS and Bats (which is basically all of Sorc3), or do you want the amazing skill that is Dark Theurge?

Sounds like a plan, I take that skills pre-R7 don't matter in the final build (be it sorc3 or warlock).

Thanks for the help m8, I know I'm asking stupid questions but you really helped me lots!

>People were fapping over the idea of riding a monster back before we knew how anything in the game worked.

Literally every MMO ever has mounts, why the hype here? Besides, just by the description it doesn't look like a skill that would be any usefull in PvP besides going sanic (if it does indeed gives speed and lets you combat while riding), but I've been always more inclined to CC over mobility.

>>151722785
I kept the basic theme of your skill path of going cleric>priest>oracle.
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41122288.1a213a435561.11213f45516a97a5.2131415a6171819a

If you're adamant about going c3 cleric then:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41112288.1f213a435a6175.11233a45516595.31415a6171819a

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>>151723196
Second greentext meant for >>151723016

Guess it's time to sleep.

>>151723196
Mounts are pets
Riding your summons is more in line with those skills that transform you into a boss monster and lets you use their skills. Riding is one of if not the core reason besides attack/hold ground to go c2 sorc.

>>151723043
Thanks for that, all advice is appreciated.

How about this then?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41122b88.1a2a364361.14213a456595.253545.38415961718199

Don't have enough points to go full aspersion, but maybe I can drop either revive or resurrection? I might be able to get away with just resurrection, right?

>>151723221
Thanks for this! I'm comparing it to what I did in >>151723439 now.

Do you think IMC has plans in nerfing 130 silver drop?

>>151723439
You need to seriously read up on cleric guides and general info. Your builds reek of lack of research so just refer to >>151723221, his/her builds for you are mostly correct and stay in line with what you originally wanted.

>>151723439
Good build.

>>151723534
Nah, too busy with WolfKnights.

>>151723439
tfw I have yet to see a build as bad as this one in awhile

>>151723534
Of course
Next patch, to fix istance limit issue

Are m gems dpk drop?

>>151723534
There was already a shitstorm the first time they nerfed 130 dungeon, if they brought it back to ktos standards before nerfing it once again, watch the normies and /tosg/ rage over their indecisiveness.

>>151723772
yes
10k kills per channel no matter the gem you are looking for

>>151723772
10k

>>151723772
I am inclined to think they are, but I have yet to hear evidence of that one way or the other.

The best way to find out would be farming a monster gem nonstop, from server maintenance end until it drops. If you can get it within a short number of kills, then it probably won't be DPK.

>>151723820
>>151723827
Sauce? Also, how do they expect us to get 10k kills from some of the more high-level monsters in this game?

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>>151721734
Finally I can use this.

>>151723820
>10k kills per channel no matter the gem you are looking for
Is this confirmed for large/elite mobs too?
Some gems sounds literally unobtainable the, just because getting 10k kills in a week is impossible with some mob respawn.

>>151723914
>how do they expect us to get 10k kills from some of the more high-level monsters in this game?
DKP counters are per channel, anyone can contribute kills and anyone can steal your gem while you farm.

>>151723960
that's what oracles are for

>>151723960
>10k is impossible with some mob respawn
Most elites respawn in 30secs, 604800 secs in a week=20160 in a week without even mentioning those that spawn multiple at a time.

Its entirely possible for bots, just very unlikely for everyone besides bots and insane madman

>>151724037
>>151723960
I need to get a Goblin Charge gem. Nobody farms them at all, and people barely spend time on that map, I'd have to kill them all by myself.

DPK for monster gems is fucking stupid.

>>151724285
>goblin charger is for the rodlero skill shooting star
hello lolipan, it seems you couldn't resist from your daily rodeleroposting :^)

Why the fuck would you want gems for skills that don't have hit count/percent/etc scaling? Getting gems for pure damage skills is pure retardation.

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Miko could be an r7 class, maybe even r8.

There's a quest/instanced zone in Barha forest related to it:
>vine_f_orchard_34_3 UnvisibleName MIKO_VINE_TAC
and the exit arrow
>Warp_arrow 바르하 숲 MIKO_VINE_ORCHARD34_3

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>back to this 2fps hoglan animation lagging pile of shit after good as HELL TI-6

Kill me desu.

>>151724398
57 atk x 4 hits. Base damage counts a lot towards my damage, because I don't have any STR and everything is multiplied by the %debuff modifiers. I have a Shield Bash gem and it makes a big difference, even with just one hit.

>>151724398
Am i a crazy for wanting a Carve Owl gem?

Tell me why putting SPR in a pvp-based catagoon is a bad idea.

>>151724624
In the same time you wasted getting the goblin charger gem, you could've gotten enough silver to boost your attributes/gear to much better levels.
All about opportunity cost m8, there is no reason to farm for gems unless its something like running meme or physical link gems where the gem make an insane difference.
200 attack (maybe slightly more after attributes) is NOT worth jack shit.

>>151724581
save yourself anon
dont go back

>>151724808
Precisely why I haven't gone and farmed it. The Shield Bash gem just happened because someone shouted it and I thought I wouldn't get another chance at a Rodelero gem again for a long time.

>>151724739
Enjoy farming 9999 only to get it stolen by some questing lowbie who puts it into his garbage level 75 equipment before eventually vending it.

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>>151724167
I don't know, respawn seems way higher than 30 seconds for these ones.

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And now we're officially part of the Hamster club. Named it after a close friend and best buddy.

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probably no one cares but i can confirm that red glowing starts at +16 not at +17

>>151724581
>tfw just watching TI6 VODs instead of doing my daily instances

>>151725551
Kinda cute, you named it after him and he named his after you.

Does Impale has a chance of missing? I mean, do you need Dex for you to impale high dodge characters?

>>151725551
>weird looking
>doesn't really do anything useful
>has a weird obsession with lolipan
Yep, that works. Good name.

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>>151725551
this could be anybody in futurecuck but i really thought of you when i named it

>>151725646
How much does it even take to get that to +16?
My gear starts costing 300k at +5 so what it takes 2mil? 3mil at +15?

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>>151725551
Nice guinea pig

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>>151726114

>>151726084
grand cross is a lvl 40 weapon so is pretty cheap to upgrade but has less max potential than higher level weapons

>>151726084
0 to 15 for grand cross costs 496108.
+70470 for 16.
https://tos.neet.tv/items/182103

>>151724761
dont you already have pain barrier resist

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My little social visit ended as expected.

>>151724925
Do you have any doubts that imc are devils and this game was made to make players suffer for them to feed on it? If this was legit rng I would farm everyday for 1 hour, no sweat. If I would get unlucky or someone else lucky, so be it, I would continue farming. But with this predeterminied shit someone is bound to steal your effort and you wouldn't even be aware of it. You wouldn't think that the drop is around the corner but in reality you would need another 10k, an endless suffering.

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>>151726271
>>151726114
>literal who dick riding kirito and begging for attention
thanks for further proof that ranch is the little backbiting bitch who got banned saying i didn't have any accomplishments though.

ranch you're nothing but a loser who has flies circling you like a pile of shit. you meme about don't mention me but it's you and your loser friend cants/fat cow dropping your name every other post. ingame you actually just copied everything i did too from my spec to farming bees. you're garbage you unoriginal passive aggressive manlet.

>>151726114
>rance finally stopped defending dvine and sugarcoating his autism
good, its about fucking time

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>>151726568
>im teh rly futureproof

Sounds like she has some serious abandonment issues.

>>151726708
>futureproof
>i'll reroll a fotm alt and won't spend money attributes XD
you guys are fucking terrible.

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>>151726708
Having 7k life and dying to a single non-linked Magic Missile the ultimate Futureproof. Haven't you heard?

Its times like these I'm thankful I'm not on klaipedia, the autism from both sides are near unbearable.

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>>151726660
I haven't asked the dude for anything and you're insane.

I leech anyone that asks me and I do it for free.

Find someone else to cling to.

>>151726852
shut up sea monkey

>>151726979
>I leech anyone that asks me and I do it for free.
Why would you do that? Especially for Kirito?

>>151727030
I have no idea who he is but he must be alright if the only people giving me shit since I started playing a few weeks ago hate him.

>>151727078
Welp

>>151726986
Mad klaicuck is mad that his server is filled with retarded autists :^)
I'm not a seamonkey

>>151726660
I had an actual reply for you but you're not really worth it. Get in the top 10 on the build "you" came up with and then maybe anyone will give a shit what you have to say. Have fun.

>>151727024
Why are you such a cuck rance?
Just tell dvine to fuck off like the garbage he is since your friendship with him is nonexistent now.

Stop trying to use logic with the retard and just outright shitpost back since no amount of logic will do anything against his autism.

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Database is recruiting brand new friends! We're a small guild, always looking for new /tosg/ friends. I have interest in PVP, but we're far too small for that at the moment. As soon as we have players, I will host the guild events but my current priority is helping out members in any way I can!
Whisper Cattly for an invite!

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>>151727397
I would of joined but I get shy around Cattly.

>>151727024
>>151727284
ranch you're garbage and pvp in this game is a joke. congratulations on rank 3# out of 200 players who did arena loser. you're like a pile of shit who has flies covering you so i guess any low hanging fruit is great for you though.

you're degenerate parasite who actually has his friends namedrop him all day to try and stay relevant in this piece of shit game. you're a total embarrassment. not only that but you're a backbiting little cuckold bitch who shitposts about people then smiles in person.

>>151727613
Why, what do I do?

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>>151727667

>this coming from dvine who would not shut up in these threads when he was in those rankings

stop posting

>>151727667
>literal only accomplishment is being afk longer than anyone else

>>151727679
///////////////

>>151727769
my accomplishment is having more money than all you cuckold faggots combined and unlike arena ranking it won't go away at the end of the week. also, i've got manlet cuckold named ranch running around with my spec as his only claim to fame so i'm laughing my ass off. unoriginal trash just wouldn't understand since this is so important for you.

>>151727667
If hes garbage for being #3 than what does that make you since you wouldn't stop shitposting about how preped you were for arena with your futureproof 100% attributes? Lower than garbage or maybe even lower than that?

>>151727812
Sorry, I do not speak morse code!

>>151727851
>its the claim to have more money than everyone else shitpost again
didn't you get proven wrong repeatedly already? why are you so insistent on making yourself look bad? you do understand not a single person here likes you dvine right?

>>151727981
HOLY FUCK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>151727851
>I didn't just afk!
>I also made a build someone fixed and did way better than me with!
So... you got build cucked?

>>151727851
what's the point of having money if you don't even play the game. do something with those attributes you invested. surely if you're so ahead of everyone you should be wrecking pvp?

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>>151712737
>dvine autism on forums

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>>151728173

dvine confirmed for the biggest cuck in this general

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>>151727851
oy kike if money is so important to you maybe you should find a real job instead of shitposting all day

>>151725828
>Doing daily instances
>after 1 hours pressing enter session

>>151727851
>I have money
Money doesn't mean anything if you aren't using it.

>>151726568
>Lolip gets told .jpg
Did you go away and cry after that?
I would if I got told like that.

>>151727851
How much silver do you make per year.

>>151728173
>rance has been cucking dvine all along
like pottery

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Lets talk about something besides thread celebs and their drama.

Try and guess the item I'm repeatedly selling for good shekels.
As a bonus I'll even tell that I make 300k profit each sale of the item which means the costs are 100k.

>>151728336
t. dvine

>>151728354
rance is playing 3d chess while dvine is playing checkers

>>151728515
Grand Crosses?

>>151727397
That screenshot early showed some suspicious involvement with dvine, I'm afraid of joining you guys now.

>>151727851
>I'm shit in arena so people who play it are cucks

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>>151728548
Not even close.
You'd never guess who I really am.

>>151728579
Nope but somewhat on the right track.
As an additional hint, I'm making around 6 mil profit per week from it so you can try and extrapolate what I'm selling :^), won't tell you unless you actually guess it through since its my attribute funder

>>151728852
Are you by chance a Squire?

>>151727852
>muh pvp
you thinking i was all about arena is just a fantasy in your head. earning more money than world boss people was what i wanted to do more than the joke called pvp in this game.

>>151728707
>please spend your time doing arena
no thanks

>>151728683
I don't take sides in the silly drama. When he's not ranting about Loli, FP or Rance, dvine seems like a pretty nice guy and he lets me leech at bees while I do chores and watch anime and stuff.

>>151728515
restoration scrolls

>>151728989
>cucking yourself with a class that earns no money
lmao, you can earn more from the market by controlling certain items in 10 mins from buying and selling than most squires make in a whole day of afk.

e.g. if the item is relatively rare, buy it out (and the recipe) and than post one at about double your actual sale rate before 1-2 at your actual sale rate

Its still slower than just farming 130 dungeon with alot 4 chars per day through since that gets your 2.5~mil per day

>>151728998
you scared of losing, dvine?

I want to sit next to Koenig and tell him that everything will be ok and I'll always be his friend.

>>151729286
>when you played i couldn't beat you so keep going until i do
blame yourself. i'm the goal you chase not the other way around.

>>151729583
oh the irony

>>151729583
So you are a pussy, correct?

>>151728989
>Squires
>making money

>>151729648
you really don't understand how little i think of you and how much i look down at you. i waited a week for you losers to get the courage to jump but it's just ranch who did it on accident and even backpedals it now. too scared to jump to too scared to play retard.

>>151729893
>too scared to play
are you talking about you and pvp?

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>>151729893
>how little I think about you
>I WAITED ONE WEEK

This is some controversy here.

>>151729893
You're under some kind of delusion anyone likes you dvine, even if heaven and hell reversed people would still like lolipan over you

>>151715976
>>>/terag/

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Could we all please stop replying to dvine, posting about dvine, and namedropping dvine at all? He doesn't play the game because he hates the game, he only keeps his AFKers logged in because it literally doesn't cost him anything to do. The only reason he's still around is because he wants to releplay as the bad guy of the general.

Ignore him, and he'll go away eventually. He probably intends to RMT all of his silver later when he gets bored anyway.

>>151730034
I like dvine.

>>151730034

I wouldn't want to befriend either of them but I do like dvine better than Lolipan. Sure dvine is a delusional autist tilting at windmills, but Lolipan is a passive aggressive bitch, and there's no type of person I dislike more than a passive aggressive bitch.

>2 faggots arguing with each other
Can't you cunts PM each other and in game and stay the fuck off the general.

>>151728515
s.corona rods.

It's bullshit by the way. It only works if you manage to catch cheap recipes and ingredients on the market. Farming it yourself to resell the crafted item is a waste of time.

Now, kys. I make 5mil a week by """playing""" my supportcuck crafting class.

Did anyone manage to get into lowbie dungeon with high lvl recently?

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>this thread

>>151729079
Nowhere near.
>>151730503
Its not, since when the fuck does superior corona rods cost 100k to buy even as a recipe?

Anywho doesn't seem like anyone will get it so I'll stop as it doesn't seem my shitposting can stop the loli vs dvine autism war.

>Opens all 3 cubes from mission
>All dilgele

plz no more

What the fuck, why are you guys replying and namedropping dvine like that? You're all just giving him the attention he wants.

>>151731059
>tells others to not namedrop
>yet namedrops
hello autism-chan, did you finally find out about hypocrisy-senpai and irony-kun?

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>Damage is only acceptable with Cafri
>Monsters are chewing me alive

Should I just go plate? The +HP hats aren't doing shit.

>>151731006
One of those royal guards recipes?

Do TBL points expire? For some reason I only have 30 points despite participating almost daily for 2 weeks already.

>>151731234
The UI is buggy. Click on Point Shop, it should show the real amount of points you have.

whats the TBL points bonus for 15 wins

>>151731384
300 points

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>>151730727
>this thread

>>151731117
people saying to switch out of it 170+. use aspersion constantly also

>>151731484
MURMILLO

I can't wait to see how good r8 will turn out to be

>>151731484
My build is already the perfect match for Murmillo. I am as ready as I can possibly be for Murmillo.

I still haven't decided whether to use the Murmillo costume, or keep the Rodelero one.

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Sage C3 will be able to perform server transfers.

>>151731117
170+ you should be using level appropriate plate + nonstop aspersion
You should also be doing grynas hills event everyday from now on so that you can immediately swap to grynas plate set at 220.

With grynas + shield + aspersion, you'll be taking 1s from everything, if you can't use a shield than you'll still take pretty low damage or 1s if you enchant grynas

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My pet killed a shiny mob and it didn't drop anything.

>>151732248
>not ensuring all risks to your god given rng works out in your favor
your own fault anon for letting your pet kill it, rip in peace

Need some opinion for TS vs Rexiper card.
Do TS still on top of the DPS?

Remember that time when newfags whined about high levels get in their dungeon through queues and rush, because high levels (or anyone) couldn't get in through normal means?
Well, now you can't! Unless you have people in queue of your level range like in missions, you won't get into a dungeon.
Get fucked.

>>151732393
rexi cards don't exist yet

>>151732393
rexipher has shit tons more hp which matters alot in pvp and better skills as well

ts is still the god of afk

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>>151732425

>>151732248
Some mobs don't have drop tables. It happened to me few times.

>>151732425
I tried that long ago, like more than a month ago, and it didn't work then either

>>151732479
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs-w-zP4Bc4

>>151732668
Looks pretty fun, too bad he uses the story mode moveset instead of the world boss one.

>>151732668
that's idtos though (the gemscool one) and not itos? afaik no rexi cards here yet but maybe I'm wrong

>>151732892
>sp drain of fair and balance
I don't think thats going to happen anon

>>151732921
Its a drop from rexipher world boss, its just extremely rare since rexhiper takes 3 hours to kill and has a 99.99% drop rate of talt talt and more talt.

>>151732892
>aoe sp drain
>aoe detonate traps/counterspell
>aoe death sentence
Come on

>>151732425
I'm okay with that.

Fuck retards that use queue to rush.

I'm wondering if I should remove a point or two from Palm for Golden Bell since it's attribute creates a protective zone for allies. What do you guys think?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41222999.15213544.213f456a9aa4.2f37425a6a71

>>151733323
>>151732425
No one does 200 for exp anyway, which is why people are now queueing up for rushes. Its the only way to get in.

>>151733872
>1280x1024
Go be poor somewhere else

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Hey guys, getting an extremely late start after beta, and I have three questions:

>Strongest starting class for getting groups and farming efficiently?
>Official RP server/irc?
>Will I experience any bad blowback from being 'late'?
Thanks bois.

>>151734119
>strongest class for getting groups
cyrochrono
>and farming efficiently
elememe
>official rp server/irc
read the op
>will I experience any bad blowback from being late
you mean besides the shekels and stuff that people have been farming for ages?
level wise you'll catch up within 2-3 weeks if less than that

>>151734119
Wizard Cryo Linker2 Chrono3 the cheapest and best support class that everyone wants to hold hands with. Kind of annoying to solo early on unless geared.

Wiz3 Ele3 Warlock - memest DPS build, requires a shitton of money to actually do well.

Join CuteNotLewd or Database for ERP guilds.

No you won't, if you have people to power level you.

>>151734050
t.future faggot defending fellow future faggot

>>151734119
>>Will I experience any bad blowback from being 'late'?
You missed partying actually working by like
two months now

>>151729583
Let's 1v1

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>>151734352
>>151734416
Thats good to hear. I was cryo/linker in beta and enjoyed it a lot. Time to go skillbuild hunting then spend 4 hours character writing bc gay. See you guys ingame.

>>151734119
>Will I experience any bad blowback from being 'late'?
You kinda missed the game

>>151734119
Game's dying, don't believe in Aliveposters.

>>151735394
After playing RO 8/10 years after its release and still getting quality gameplay/roleplay, I have a really hard time believing you.

>>151735572
That's RO m8, this is a different game handled by a shitty company.

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>>151735572
>comparing tos with ro 2003~2005
(You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You)

>>151733872
every single arena game I have been in with Trappe he has afk'd

>>151736000
>forgetting that bouncing around on custom RO servers was a buggy, laggy, grindy fagfest
>we still enjoyed it because the right people were there and it was free

This is what happens when you /vg/ boys hivemind too hard.

>>151736228
>pserver babby acting high and mighty

you literally cannot make this shit up, screencap'd

>>151733872
>Trappe can't carry 1v5
Wow, FP sure are scrubs.

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Sword3 >>> pelt1 >>> barb3 >>> murm
pvp 1 handed build leap pounce and stun
how good is it? how bad is it?

>>151735572
He's kinda right though.
The game is pretty dead.
And the people still playing are mostly in their own little cliques.
You'll probably get snapped up by one of the /tosg/ guilds that are desperate for members, but chances are you'll feel like an outsider because they will have their established little inner circle jerk group that do everything together.
And there's no quality gameplay to be had, the game is a mess with bugs, worse than it was a month or two ago.

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>>151716371
need rodel version though

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>tfw no Cannon dual wield

>>151731657
Lolipan in a non-rodelro costume is no lolipan.

>>151736660
Why is she suspended from a balloon?

I WANT TO FUCK LOLIPAN!

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>>151737034

>>151736907
Did you read what you quoted?

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>>151736979
Drawfag had no atom references so he drew a bunch of helium atoms

>card myslef into lvl 145
>get into dungeon 145
>xp is shit even with token and xp tome

Where should I go? My quest is that main cathedral guy which should give only lvl 6 cards.

>>151737278
>xp is shit
its literally 2.5mil per run, maybe you should stop being dead on the ground

>>151737190
Yes, it was sarcasm.

>>151737174
Sauce?

>>151737409
Hard to detect that without a reaction image.

>>151736616
The problem with murm in pvp is probably that a stun on a jump in is good but cleric will just make everyone immune to it, so it's best use will probably after hook to get in range.

>>151736776
I need an Agvara, how do you have two of them? Would you part with one?

>>151737640
sure thing anon

>>151736616

Good bui-

Actually that might work.

>>151737686
Thanks.
But why do you have two? How did you get them? Were they very cheap on market, or did you farm recipes?

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>>151737778
He is falseflagging you
I traded the spared Agvara for a Manamana which i istant listed on market since i don't need a second Manamana
Actually found both Agvara recipes by myself, one around 1.3k and the second at 150 kills

>>151738087
reeeee

I wish I had never bought into this game.

>>151738764
Same, the only thing I got from it was meeting someone special but other than that it's just suffering.

Anyone on Fedimian around 150-160 levelrange? Feeling like playing again.

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>>151738764
Same

>>151730020
having jace's semen for breakfast does things to his head

>>151739004
Are you me?

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>>151738764
>>151739004
same

>>151737375
>2.5m per hour
>be with 4 priests

Daily reminder that DPK doesn't exist, and there isn't ANY actual evidence that it does exists.

someone post "play the game"

>>151715843
This build is completely horrifying. I dont even know where to start. At least check a few guides on cleric skills and build towards PvP or PvE. Deprotected is useless without a sword. Get lvl 4 safety zone and the attributes, it will block any damage until the block count runs out.
I suggest dropping Diev altogether. Replace it with cleric 2 so you'll have enough heals, priest3 for even more support, or chaplain so you have some dps. Oracle2 isnt worth it at all, I recommend Cleric2Priest3OracleKabba for PvP. In PvE there's almost no need for the full support type your build is and you will have a hard time levelling. Not going to spoon-feed you any more than this.
As for your question you can buy all the kinds of wood for 20silver from the Dievdirbys Master in West Sialuai Wood. You can still get about 10 Carve because it hits hard even without any Str investment and there's nothing to do with the points anyway.

>>151740910
Play the game

>>151740910
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYmm5YQSv2I

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>>151740910
Here you go.

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Just to show you how easymode clerics are.
This is the guy that ranked 2 last week. And was somewhere in top 10 previously. And is on 3 right now.
He is absolutely oblivious to his surroundings, because this is at least the second time he says something similar to this. The enemy had diev/oracle and Mio the "kill your full con character in 5 seconds" sr.

>>151740910
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4v7QnBEJVw

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19ELvof4WUvKAF_9yQQ-z72GU7C876yaiHPUNnPavSm0/edit?usp=sharing


Completed the swordsman damage spreadsheet, finally.
Warning: extreme autism

How many hits is Katon no Jutsu?
Where in the formula is Rapier Mastery considered?


Go to File -> Make a Copy to get an editable version of your own.


Archer version next

>>151741391
What isn't easy mode in this game?

Landing a Hook?
Using Dark Theurge?
Broadhead?

Tell me the approvedTM classes, that require skill and massive gameplay to do well.

People just cry about cleric because they can't pass on the retard test, aka, Revenged Sevenfold.

>>151741827
hmm interesting

>Cleric 2 on team
>Never puts down heals, ever
>Dragoon gets mad as fuck
>"I no healer"

...seriously?

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Pelt guardian: self buff, 35% def increase and 68% attack reduction
Priest Aspersio: party wide 48% defence increase

Pelt HighGuard: self buff, around 240 block or something, can't be kept forever, 50% attack reduction and crit rate decrease
Priest Stone Skin: party wide buff, grants insane block values (easily 800+)

>>151742428
Don't forget Pelt has three passives that give him more armor.

>>151741828
You seem to be 2v2 fag or below 1000 5v5.

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>>151742074
>Orsha subhuman or monkey lost on klai

>>151741827
sword autism is the best kind of autism
I'm pretty sure Zucken's bonus on shocked targets is 50%

>>151742428
>implying devs play the game

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>>151733872
I'm glad his name was stolen.

>>151741827
>>151742556
Also cyclone deals one hit every 0.3 second

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I need 7 wins for the 300pts reward and 1 win like 1 game ouf ot 20

>>151742428
Lvl 15 Block Potion will require you to either go Alch 3 or pay someone who did.
260 Block.

dead game dead thread