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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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>SMTIV Final/SMTIV Apocalypse information
http://pastebin.com/Xmjsuv0D

Participate in the new /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>MTII translation project
http://www.dmanufacture.com/t-dds2.php

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/bd3Bgfj8

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>New OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/kmMsiz1d

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

>SMT If... Tips & Tricks:
http://pastebin.com/KiwVr9Vy

>Previous thread
>>151207063
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Can Oni Madotsuki be megaten related?
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>>151689261
Last thread
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I don't wanna try to fight this love.
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>>151690039
I forgot to remove Tue, sorry. Like anyone even cares.
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>>151690039
>devil different
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>>151690039
>feel fight fuck fuse game
This perfectly describes the franchise in a nutshell.

>>151690232
I care
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It's still hard to believe we've been THIS CLOSE to Devil Summoner in English twice and it slipped through our fingers both times.
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>that Septentrione music

I never get tired of it, preparing for a fight has never felt more hype

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THu-srFS5G0
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>>151690039
>hoy humans
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>>151690801
i think this is the fixed one

angels bad best better boss change chaos character dds demons desu devil different ending feel fight fuck fuse game getting god guy happen hoy humans ii iv kill law level literally neutral people persona play point pretty really route shit skills smt something standard system think true turn world yhvh
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>>151691532
Yes anon, this exact song was posted last thread and it convinced me to get DeSu2.

Now I'm having a hard time finding a physical copy of it.
If all else fails I'll have to wait for a sale.
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>>151692092
LuciWalter would definitely say something like that.
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>>151692097
It doesn't feel as special without an image.
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>>151692159
Why not use Desmume or No$gba to emulate it? I remember there being Dubhe Anti Piracy or something, never managed to get the patch for it to work or my nds file was a corrupt DL.

I love the shit out of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ysxjn37JPg
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>>151692698
I'm too lazy to do it for just one word.
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>>151690039
angels bad
kill law
turn world yhvh
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>>151692814
I wanna play the version with most content and I like to own my megumi tennis games physically.

What I find curious is that this OST seems to be a lot better than the one of DeSu1, but I rarely see anyone bring it up.
It reminds me of the OST of Mega Man X games and other SNES RPGs, which gives me this feel of nostalgia and hype.
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IKU YO
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>>151694039
I prefer Deep Night and the tense tracks from 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n-bcvbHNTk
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>>151696185
Imo there's too much repetition in this song for me to really appreciate it, not the same anon as the one you're responding to
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>>151694039
>tfw no shin megami tennis

why live
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>>151691506
Three times
Saturn version was planned but cancelled, because Saturn
PSP was also planned but SCEA cucked Atlus because muh qualifications
The fan translation will NEVER EVER be hacked in because no one is competent enough to do so
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>>151696185
The two openings and these tunes are my favorite of the whole OST.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6AXCObI7z8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErL6SINTPHw

There's also this jingle that is fucking godly and under-appreciated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLX0lBAOlQQ

But overall it just sounds like a low quality GBA OST. Which is weird compared to how good are the other megaten soundtracks.
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>>151697257
IT'S NOT FAIR!
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Long time no see, Stanley.
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HO HEE
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>>151697257
>no rehases
>now ps4 is literally all rehashes
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>>151661380
>Everything dies in two hits, bosses take four
>A low level demon with weak phys hit all is the scariest fucking random encounter.
>But nothing matters because you save and reload as fast as you die and kill and respawn and win.
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Navarre is the only person in SMT4 who did nothing wrong.
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DDS1/2 all beaten. Truly we are the Digital Devil Saga.

>>151696985
Metatron would be the referee. But nobody will listen to him.
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>>151696985
Persona tennis
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>>151703861
>A low level demon with weak phys hit all is the scariest fucking random encounter.
Fuck Shinjuku.
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>>151704284
Only if you don't count stupidity as being wrong.

And I don't know how much of a bitch Odin will be in IV:A, but he was bro-tier IV.
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>>151704454
No, Persona will be the next Snowboard Kids title.
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>>151705265
Will Koromaru replace the dog guy's place?
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hoy, brudda
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Sonic and Persona at the Olympic Games series when
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>>151705854
>he wanted to fight god by warming up his heart with some jammin' jamaican beats

Cielo is 2 pure.
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So buying Shin Megami Tensei IV, Shin Megami Tensei IV Apocalypse, and all of the DLC for both games costs exactly $130.18 dollars. Is it worth it?
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>>151706852
Not even close.
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>>151706852
The DLC is not worth it.
Get the protags fanservice DLC if you actually played SMT and SMT2. Otherwise it is not an obligatory buy.

The games are worth the money though, but maybe you should get SMT IV on a sale.
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>>151706852
Don't buy make-it-easy DLC
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>>151689261
>cant preorder apocalypse
fug
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>>151707391
Why?
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Hoy.
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>>151709825
Raidou 3's Law path is looking pretty neat; I'm not sure I dig this new Lilith design, though.
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>>151706852
>Is it worth it?

how much do you make a month
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>>151709825
>>151710205
Top kek
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>>151697257

I'm talking legit releases, son.

I still have a still from the old translation project from like two years ago, complete with ALLCAPS and uniform spacing
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>>151712786
Hah, you mean this one? Well, at least it's better than nothing. I really want to know why Atlus didn't create a 3DS version of this game. Was there a lack of demand or something?
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Is there any way to get the Fallen Angel Wing in (K)MT2 for the Jack Frost easter egg thing without cheating? It's 1/1000 chance otherwise, seems kinda stupid.
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>>151709825
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU4nCXisAes
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>>151706852
SMT IV goes on sale for like £20 on the eshop quite a bit, and you can probably find it cheapish is you look around amazon and other sites

Don't get the DLC it's shit
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Is there a fusion calculator for SMT1? I have a good chart but I don't really know most of the demons though so level req is annoying.
Though it's interesting that the ghoul I got fused with one of the Tan-Ki in the area to make a Maneater.
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HOW THE FUCK DO I BEAT BELIAL FUCK THIS NIGGER EVEN WITH CHAOS WAVE AND EXTRA ONE HE IS IMPOSSIBLE.

please anons, just a good fusion plz
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>>151721497
Get one of those ranged attack racial skills, walk to the left bleachers, don't kill Rangda. Attack Belial. Belial can't get to you because of Rangda.
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>>151721675
What ranged attack racial skill
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>>151721497
Belial's the fire demon dude right?

Ice dance nigga, slap it on Yoohoo or something
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>>151712786
>>151715872
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>>151721675
>>151722701
Nope, I put my magic too high early on, so I had 28 MAG but low stats and was getting my ass whooped. But then I cracked Ice Rise from one of the free battles or whatever and slapped Ice Dance on the MC. I had curse dance as well, so I attacked Belial from a distance and got it to below half health, considering I was doing ~500 damage per ice hit. It attacked me and instead of murdering me it kept trying to seal my other demon's spell ability, so I hit it with another ice dance and killed it. It was tense though.
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>>151725448
Sorry, not curse dance, one of the waves, chaos wave I think.
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>>151704694
Odin is part of Polytheist Alliance and was the one who tricked Nanashi
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>>151721747
I think it's one fron Viles. Chaos Wave I think?
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>>151732914
>Hero isn't a Retriever
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>>151733348
>tfw no evil snake waifu to tempt me from my qt rebel gf
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>>151734035
My thought exactly.
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>>151734035
Aleph is the one going on more fetch quests, so he should be the Retriever.
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I don't understand Law in SMT4. Every option that is about not changing stuff and status quo gives Law points. But the momment the Archangels are freed they change everything about Mikado, abolish the class system, take technology from Tokyo to Mikado to reverse engineer it, and annihilate Tokyo(going from existence to non-existence is pretty big change, you know). So why is Law associated with not changing anything?
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>>151735827
Law is associated with order.

Order=/=not changing

If the times demand change to maintain order then that's that for law.

Not to mention different individuals and groups can have different variations of an alignment. Mastema for instance is law but his actions are quite different to the archangels.
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>>151736171
But abolishing the class system and taking technology from Tokyo to Mikado isn't necessary for maintaining order. It's just changing stuff for the benefit of the people. And isn't changing the system for the sake of the people chaotic? There is a question like that in the passage of ethics too.
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>>151736171
It's been a while since I played SMTIV but in that tunnel of alignmentfaggotry or whatever it was called, wasn't there a question about bringing new technology into a civilisation? I thought the law answer for that was don't do it and the chaos answer was introduce the tech.

Seems like what that first guy says happens in the Law route differs quite alot from that
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>>151735827
>SMT4 in charge of plot
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>>151707489
is show as not available in my country amazon, and any other place will rip me off
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>>151737558
The class system separated people, so I always thought the abolishment was so that everyone can brainlessly praise God together
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>>151742523
if... is first in the timeline iirc. It all depends uow many people notice the incident.
Little/No people: Humanity goes on with their lives, leading to the events of I
Enough people: Humanity takes action in stopping the demon outbreak. Leads to the Persona series, but I don't know where Devil Summoner fits in the picture
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>>151690039
route shit
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Hama
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>>151735827
Law in SMT4 is about perserving the Kingdom of Mikado and making sure everyone loves God. Everything the Archangels do is for the purpose of keeping their Kingdom legitimate and running. The kind of change that Chaos proposes involves destroying the kingdom and letting demons run loose with nothing to keep them in check.
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>>151735827
Weren't the monks the guys trying to reverse-engineer technology, even before Gabriel and Co. make a powergrap, though?

Considering that the Angels turn the monastry into their mouthpiece, them trying to attain technology will probably become a non-issue in the Law ending.
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>>151735827
SMT4 had an odd Japanese nationalist undertone to it. Note that although the archangels do order the monastery to master computers and create a digital database, taking knowledge from Tokyo's technology, they're also ordered to eliminate the "mystic script" and convert everything to the common language. The Law forces then, in this sense, are western values, foreign gods, rejecting the Japanese culture.

But, yeah, there's a division between the player choice's and the way the story actually executes it, since the nationalism stuff never comes up among the player choices.
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>>151741098
RIP you
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>>151733348
>Lilith getting any
as if, she had to settle down with silver medal Chaos Hero.
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hi i'm that anon from a while back that promised to upload his save eventually

here i am

i dont have heroes or chemtrail because jesus christ that takes a long time to grind but i have 999 mag and like 20+ red rider runs

https://mega.nz/#!xNQk0baC!1yGKWkwtMDpsiif8y06GfI2MMz_Nrzhf4LMRMjRZdrE
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>>151742985
DebiSama is where Gotou and Thor don't escalate the situation and the nukes don't go off.
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>>151750494
>never
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>>151742985
Devil Summoner goes concurrently with Persona games. In Debisama, ambassador Thorman dies of a heart attack, and colonel Gotou is arrested. In Persona 1 there is Tamaki (If female protag) and the nephew of "T-Shirt" Isono from Devil Summoner, Also, Kuzunoha Detective Agency in P2. Rasen had a few good videos about the Megaten timeline.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQrxFQvsFWc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jb3-vQy7cs
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>>151750494
I'm not sure it's exactly nationalistic in its own world. You're never shown anything else other than Tokyo and Mikado.
I always take Neutral to be more humanist than anything, taking the side for the innocent and helpless people.

>>151735827
Thing is that in SMT 4 alignment choices are all over the place.
Some choices are based on the ideal, like preserving peace and status quo or just following orders, or break the passiveness of Mikado and being honest or inclusive.
Some choices were based entirely on allegiance, and were given simply for agreeing with Jonathan and Tayama or Walter and demons.
And a few were given to you simply by doing story-quests.

I still feel the Expanse section of IV has to be the best the franchise has seen as far as proper Law and Chaos go.
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Whoever this terminal guardian is he is literally the only good SMT4 char
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>>151753289
>he will never crossdress for you
why live
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>>151753289
The terminal guardian is literally an average joe cosplaying as characters he saw on old anime reurns. The only difference betwern him and otakus is that he has a job and provides for his family.
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>>151753289
It'll feel weird, playing SMT4A and hearing the same voice actor for Flynn. Is the terminal guardian in Apocalypse by the way?
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Recarm.
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>>151732914
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>>151755092
Probably not, the team forgot about him while shilling the mcs.
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SMT x SMT
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>>151762378
They did that already. It was called Persona Q and P4A. SMT x SMT. SMT x SMT x EO
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>>151763358
Persona is not SMT.
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>>151763535
>Persona is not SMT.
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>>151763776
Oh, it's you again.
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>>151763776
persona is megami ibunroku
it is not shin megami tensei
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>yfw Devil Summoner NEVER EVER
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>>151763776
>>151764202

Persona is Megaten.
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>yfw Sector Eridanus

I started playing forever ago, and I still haven't gotten though it.
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>>151719945
>Is there a fusion calculator for SMT1?

>anyone outside this thread caring about SMT1
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>>151751209
>posting this shit fan chart
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Wasn't there a fan remake project for SMT1? What happened to that?
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>>151766514
Persona is MegaTen, but it is not Shin Megami Tensei. What's not to understand?
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>>151768518

Nothing.
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>>151767874
you mean the one in japanese?
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>>151768518
>Persona is not SMT

Is this bait?
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>>151767667
It's accurate, tho.

>>151767874
>>151769019
Which one? RPGツクールVX版 真・女神転生?
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>>151767874
This one?
http://smtrproject.tumblr.com/
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>>151768518
It says Shin Megami Tensei on the box though
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>>151770630
>It's dead

>>151771636
>>151770028
>they don't know
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>>151771715
Oh man.

I wish I had the motivation to become a hardcore hacker to make these projects.
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So why is the "Black Samurai" armor just a black Demonica Suit
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>>151772345
Because the samurai don't know what demonicas are, they just see someone with a black armor summoning demons, so they immediately assume that it must be some "dark" samurai.
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>>151772345
because smt4 is the sequel to sj
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Why do we Hoy?
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>>151740714
Yes.
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>>151751209
IVF Artbook already confirmed this shit is wrong. Nocturne and IV are sifferent universes from I and II
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>>151777043
This thead has also proved it wrong multiple times.
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>>151772345
Because CDF wore these cheaper inferior suits Stephen made after seeing SJ superior Demonicas.
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>>151777229
And the mindless masses still buy the lies cause it fits their retarded headcannons.
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Just got to Tokyo in SMT1, saved in Shinjuku
How do I not fuck up in saving heroine? Give me the right sequence of events to do man.
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>>151780064
You can't fuck up, you need to save her to progress the plot.
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>>151780739
I did no walk through first time and I for some reason couldn't find psychodriver to save her because I cleared Shinjuku before going to Shibuya and seeing her.
Tried looking for similar events online but couldn't find anything on help so I reset.
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>>151777043
And that picture was made long before Final was even announced. Not to mention, all the links between 1/2-Nocturne-SJ/4 are marked as speculation theories. I'm just sayin'.
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>>151781063
You probably just forgot to fo something. I think you gotta:
>meet heroine in Shibuya
>talk to hooded guy in Shinjuko Disco basement
>find Psychodiver where rebel base used to be
>fight Ozawa upstairs
>talk to Psycho again, he tells you to meet him in Shibuya
You can't trigger certain events unless you do other things first, but you can't lock yourself from saving her if that's what you're afraid of.
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When will this "SMT games get on sale pretty often" meme ends?
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>>151782191
when you make an account in a better region
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>>151782084
Raidou Timeline debunked said fantard timeline too, not to mention the entire Amala Universe.
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>>151782989
The last part debunking it because Hijiri is punished to witness everything in the Multiverse.
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>>151782129
Ah thanks.
It's wierd though, I simply went to him in where he was captive and he simply said he was going to the bar.
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Hoy.
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Serious question, why do SMT fans hate Persona fans so much?
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>>151786057
Look at the fandom, and get your own fucking answer.
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>>151786057
Because they haven't realised that the best way is to like both games
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>>151786057
We don't, SMT fans cross over into Persona fans considering we play Persona as well.

There's just the obnoxious 'we don't play anything other than Persona' fans.
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Teradyne
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dia
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>>151752740
>I'm not sure it's exactly nationalistic in its own world. You're never shown anything else other than Tokyo and Mikado.

There's also the bit about foreign (Chinese) deities attacking one of the districts. And how the Tokyo related divinities happen to be portrayed as pure good and with power on par with the highest tiers of hell and heaven forces.
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Mazio
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Why did Flynn only reincarnate in the Neutral Tokyo, you know the one where Masakado ate his head? Shouldn't he have a reincarnation running around in Blasted and Infernal Tokyo as well? We know he died there too.
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What is the best build to make Ronald useful?

So far, he just falls behind everyone and feels like a weaker Serph (I gave him a physical build).
This wasn't a problem in DDS1 because I only ever needed to use 3 party members; but in DDS2 I'm constantly switching characters, and Ronald does nothing that the rest of my party can't do better.

Any tips?
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>>151797606
Are the National Defense Divinites even controlled by Tayama? Many of them like Yamato Takeru, Omoikane, and Tenkai have enough free will to speak their minds.
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>>151800962
Ronald is supposed to be a physical guy like Heat, but his stat distribution is kinda sub-optimal and he always be inferior to an physical Serph. You aren't actually forced to use him though, just make sure that at least Gale and Cielo get some good mantras as they will be forced on you for some dungeons.
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Quantum Devil Saga 2 when
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>>151802510
Yeah, the rest of my party is pretty solid. It's just that Ronald gets way too much magic.

I guess I could also give him buffs and debuffs.
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Just got a 3DS and should be done hacking it soon. What's the best SMT to play? I haven't played any of the DS stuff either but I can't play that until my flash cart gets here.

My only previous MT games are Digital Devil Saga 1+2 and Persona 3+4.
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>>151802945
2020
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>>151804905
SMT IV if you want something like what you have already played. Although this game has more exploration than DDS and Persona 3/4

DeSu:O if you want to mix things up and get a taste of a game perfectly designed for handhelds.

Every megaten on 3DS is worth playing though.
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>>151805270
I'll go with SMT IV. It seems DeSu is the SRPG series and Im gonna play Fire Emblem soon too.

I've seen multiple people talk about how strong Atlus has been on 3DS between SMT and Etrian Odyssey (another series I will just be getting into).
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>>151805536
Have fun anon, you are doing well.

Feel free to check the tips pastebin, it has some useful tips, and it is pretty much spoiler-free.
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Shit this thread on /v/ is 100% right

>>/v/348444356
>The only people defending TMS are the poisonous Nocturne/Strange Journey fans.

Really makes you think...
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>>151806261
>But Nocturne and SJ fags are well known for being vocal, close-minded and annoying groups.
Holy shit. So it's Nocturne and SJfags that've been pushing idolshit?

I fucking knew it.
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>>151806506
I thought it was the SMT4 shitters.
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I haven't been here in a while, but I'm guessing the general attitude towards TMS is bad? I liked personally, the dungeons felt like the PS2 games and wile the idol stuff is over the top it's not that much more annoying the Persona or DeSu characters.

Does the game even get discussed in the Fire Emblem or Persona general?
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>>151806796
Nah, it's the nocturnebabies and SJfags.
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>>151806878
>but I'm guessing the general attitude towards TMS is bad?
lol
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>>151806878
Yup. The fact that it only gets brought up here to shitpost doesn't help.

I think they have their own general, or at least they used to. But honestly, you're better off trying your luck in /v/, just make sure to make a good OP (by /v/ standards).
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>>151807241
We might need a division like the Fallout General.

>Real SMT General - I, II, IV etc
>Dark Age of Atlus General - Nocturne, Strange Journey, TMS etc
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>>151807785
>Real SMT: IV
>not SJ
fuck off underage
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>>151808027
Fine.

>classic SMT - I, II, IV etc
>'alternative' SMT - Nocturne, the Raidou games, Strange Journey, and Tokyo Mirage Session etc
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>>151808127
Why subdivide the series more? This place will be barren once the SMT IV Apocalypse play through are over.
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>>151807785
We're fine as it is.

Just wait a bit until the waifufags and nintendrones move on to the next big thing, and eventually the 5 or 10 guys who actually care about TMS, will be able to discuss their game without too much shitposting.
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>>151808306
To get rid of all the shitposters...
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>>151808357
Let's just have a jack bros general
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>>151808357
Kick out SMT4fags and the shitters will mostly be gone.
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>>151808357
the white were right
>>151808517
this
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>>151808323
>We're fine as it is.
Pic related.
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>>151808517
Jack Bros, Majin Tensei, the good Devil Summoners and DeSu belong to the 'classic' SMT general.
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How many SMT games do you think we will get out of PS4 now that Atlus has a nice 3d engine?
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>>151809171
Hopefully, at least 2.

But I wouldn't be surprised if one of those two ends up being P5-2 or P6.
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>>151809171
none
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>>151809171
Now that the Nintendo Exclusivity deal is over and all the pro-Nintendo devs (Strange Journey) are now on the D (E?) dev teams we should see tons.

It's the return to the golden age.
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>>151809361
You think we will ever see PS2 era output again? I'm kind of putting all of my hope in the NX causing Japan to flip their shit like they did for DS.
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>>151809645
>putting all of my hope in the NX
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>>151808357
You're the shitposter
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>>151809645
>I'm kind of putting all of my hope in the NX
Replace this with PS4 and you're golden.

>>151809840
>call out shitposters
>You're the shitposter
lol
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>>151809923
I literally just came in the thread only to read some retard wanting to split up this already nearly dead general. The shitposting, which isn't nearly as bad as a place like /pg/, isn't enough to justify it. You're just pissy that you don't like Nocturne and SJ and you're trying to deflect it on their sometimes retarded fanbase.

And SJ is more of an oldschool SMT than IV, easily.
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>>151810038
>And SJ is more of an oldschool SMT than IV, easily.
lol
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>>151809645
>PS2 era ATLUS genuinely cared to push out several new games full of quality and originality
>all of them flopped
>some low effort waifushit that they put together in one month ended up being their best selling game of that gen
>last gen only had one SMT game, one rehash, 4 ports, and 4 cash-ins of Persona

I'm not sure if I want to trust modern ATLUS.
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>>151810171
>last gen only had one SMT game
What game?
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>>151810171
>low effort waifushit
You can be mad as you want but weebsona isn't low effort you stupid fucker. It's got more effort than SMT4.
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>>151810171
Are we still pretending that Persona 3 FES isn't the best MegaTen game?
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>>151810478
that is card summoner you bitch ass nigga
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>>151810478
It's ok, even I have a very soft spot for it.

But its strengths are in everything but the gameplay. And in that case you're better off reading visual novels, where you can actually date and fuck your waifu of choice.
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>>151809768
It's no secret their best output has been on Nintendo handhelds for almost 10 years.

If anything is gonna a take some Japs back from mobile, it will be a Nintendo handheld. PS4 just ain't cutting it. We are 3years in and Atlus still had to put P5 on PS3 for insurance.
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>>151786057
Jealousy, Persona 3 FES was so good most SMT devs have stopped caring to compete.
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>>151810384
P4 was low effort. It was a total rehash of P3 right down to reusing party member animations.
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>>151812808
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Meta-fanbase discussion was a mistake.
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Where the hell is Cafe Milton?
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>>151813639
In Shibuya.
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>>151786057
Because they keep milking the same Persona cast for 5 years.
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Reminder that Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 FES is the best MegaTen.
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>>151815991
Yeah we heard you an hour ago, no need to repeat yourself.
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>>151816031
These are hourly reminders.
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>>151816102
You really don't need to.
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>>151816173
Oh, It's my pleasure.
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Can someone tell me whether Killing Lilith/Yuriko lock you in the law path or not? It's at least something that gives a very lawful allignment, right?
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>>151816238
But I don't want you to get your pretty fingers full of calluses.
>>151816363
It doesn't lock you yet but yes, it gives you lawful points.
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>>151816406
>But I don't want you to get your pretty fingers full of calluses.
I understand the risks but somebody has to do it.
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Hoy.
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Are all the PS2 games in 512x448?
Been playing Nocturne for a few hours and wondering if I can make it less blurry.
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>>151823956
Emulating or console?
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Does anyone have a link to the Strange Journey OST? the link in the pastebin is broken.
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>>151824484
emulating on PCSX2
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>>151824842
You control the resolution anon
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>>151824842
Like >>151825554 said, you can increase the resolution yourself. 2x resolution gives quality like pic related.

>>151824592
I can upload it to MEGA and post a link to it if you want
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>>151825985
>not rendering at 5x native
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https://youtu.be/pmqIi5gp5aE let's remind the good stuff
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>>151826014
My computer can't handle it. Just tried it and the FPS dropped from 59.99 to 9.47, and that was just on the save/load screen of Raidou 2
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>>151825985
>I can upload it to MEGA and post a link to it if you want

I would honestly really appreciate that.

I also saw that the Digital Devil Saga OST Link was broken in the pastebin, but I found the download for that here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/t0dl7yjx8radwl1/Digital%20Devil%20Saga%201%20%262%20OST%20-%20INTEGRAL.rar
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>>151827563
Here's the link: https://mega.nz/#F!7o5UibDY!lvEAv12m4aIK0rmzDVHU2g

Also asking for the Raidou 2 OST, if anyone has it or a working link.
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QUICK WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE BOSS THEME

MINE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmbiENL5qYQ
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In DeSu2, when I start a NG+ do I keep my compendium? I made a ton of crazy demons I'd love to access again in another playthrough
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>>151800227
I'm also curious about this.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3HlnVAeloo
That's a really good theme. It's a shame that Masuko's music in SNES games consisted mostly of short loops.
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>>151830228
Yessir.
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http://app.famitsu.com/20160815_806239/
http://2595.tokyo/lp/

Did we ever talk about it? It's sRPG for mobile that has some staff members who previously worked on Megaten. Including Tsukasa Masuko.
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>>151825985

Why does DDS run like shit on emulator?
It always stutters randomly or slows down during certain spell effects.

And my CPU is relatively powerful.
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>>151831867
Noice
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SMT x Don't Wake Daddy
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>>151835068
The most issues I've had is slowdowns during certain spells. Ran perfectly fine otherwise, maybe it's your settings?
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>>151832918
Sounds interesting.
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>>151689445
Yes
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>>151835068
Anti-piracy ISOs
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>>151840532
Not him, but would this be solved by playing directly from an official disc on an emulator?
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>>151840660
Nah, I think that's made-up bullshit.

It probably has something to do with the effects and shaders the game uses. Not all PS2 games are very easy to emulate properly.
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>>151831364
Masuko = GOD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZv3hjJz4NI

How did they manage to fuck up the best themes in PSP port so bad?
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>>151750494
I'm a bit confused by what the mystic scripts are supposed to be. Everyone speaks the same language, which is Japanese, so what's the difference when it's written? Are people in Mikado only writing in hiragana and katakana and never using kanji?
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>>151800227
Because not enough time passed for him or anyone else to be reincarnated. Flynn and co are born like 1500 years after their previous selves dies. In blased Tokyo and infernal Tokyo you see that Akira is still alive and that Mikado doesn't exist, so only a few year passed insead of 1500 years. Or at least I guess.
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>>151810171
They had problems with money at the time right? I'm sure Atlus is counting on p5 to get more money thanks to its popularity and there are models for demons for the new consoles so there's hope.

>>151835068
And you guys told me to emulate the ps2 games instead of buying them. Good thing I didn't listen to you.
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>>151843293
>Good thing I didn't listen to you
You shouldn't expect much from NEET piratefags. I usually only hear that the games are a bother to emulate if you are not fully prepared to deal with whatever issues the emulator may require. And there are also a few horror stories where things go south and anons lose their 40+ hour save files for whatever reasons.

And yeah, ATLUS did have that issue with Index and SEGA, not to mention that the flopping of their PS2 games might have been very demoralizing for them and the shareholders.
But SMT IV and even IV:A did rather well, the ports were well received, the fanbase and consumer base as a whole have grown these last 5 years or so, and I even think that the digital games from Sony's and Nintendo's e-shop have sold good numbers by now.
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>>151828596
>Garuda
>SMT1 Boss Theme
>Battle B2
>To Become God's Enemy
>Vishnuflynn Decisive Battle
>Nocturne Fierce Battle
>Battle for Everyone's Souls
>I'll Face Myself Reincarnation
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>>151828596
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_PfeIkfpaE
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Daily reminder:
If a Megaten game doesn't have its own original Jack Frost redesign, it's not a legitimate entry in the franchise.
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>>151846023
I'm sure SMT4 and its sequel were less expensive to make than the ps2 games and there's the fact that handhelds are very popular in Japan, so that's why. I hope Atlus will keep making megaten games for the 3DS. Please make SMT1and2 remakes for the 3DS someday
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I'm playing SMT 1 and I have the opportunity to kill gotou or team up with him, will I have more fun going chaos or neutral in this game? I feel like the MC would be more inclined to join neutral though.
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>>151849286
So basically, only MT 1 and SMT 1 are a MegaTen?
>>151850425
>SMT1 Remake
>It has FINAL's Fusion System
>Plus sword fusion
>Plus Law Hero and Chaos Hero voiced
>And especially Heroine 1 and 2 voiced
>Updated Hero and co designs
>Updated story demon designs
>Hero in 3D
>Pascal the dog is also there
ATLUS PLEASE
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>>151853872
>voices
>updating already perfect designs
Stop.
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>>151853752
Neutral
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>>151853752
Neutral. Law and Chaos are just unrepentant dickbags in this game, and it's fun to fight every enemy as a neutral character.
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>>151828596
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epiX-bJ0tVk
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Is there a reason why Soul Hackers is only £8.99 on the eshop? Is it just because it's not popular?
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>>151857573
Atlus 3DS titles go on sale seemingly once a month. Persona Q doesn't drop that far but the rest usually are 50% off.
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>It's a "You need Flight and Devil Speed" map

Fuck this shitty gimmick
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>>151857754
This isn't on sale.
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>>151857841
>it's a 'if you have chaos wave you can cheese this fight' map
Fuck you Belberith
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>>151858182
Hmm, I guess it got a permanent price drop? Or maybe it has to do with Atlus European publisher changing so they are dumping games before they get delisted or something.
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if when
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>>151853872
>Thinks Jack Frost is in MT1
>Doesn't know about King Frost, Heeho-kun, DB Busters, etc
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>>151842728
Based on one scene in the monastery, Mikado is writing all in Romaji.
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>>151858198
>preaches about wanting to kill God over and over again
>you don't even fight God

Shit path tbqh
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>>151828596

See >>151691532
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>>151861440
only Aleph was hardcore enough to kill god
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>just got Multi-Strike in DeSu2

HOLY SMOKES THIS MOVE IS AMAZING
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>>151863072
OH MY GOD I'M THE MOTHERFUCKING FIST OF THE NORTH STAR JESUS CHRIST
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>>151857573
Yeah they made it cheaper for good now.
>>
Hoy.
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>>151847067
>tfw Death Flies
Shit got me so mad the first time I fought him. Got even worse when I realize you take Megidolaon-tier damage if you null Death.
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MORE SKILLS
MORE KILLS
MORE BLOOD-SPILLS
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>>151861771
Not anymore.
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>>151867235
>>151861771
Would the lack of MP be a consideration?
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>>151861771
He killed God before it was cool.
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>>151849286
Which SMT did the Jack Frost wearing a Demonica appear in again?
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>>151867830
Strange Journey
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What's /smtg/ opinion about autism?
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>>151867652
He also has 0 INT.
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>>151870363
Weebs and console/PC mustard warriors deserve to die.
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>>151868056
Holy shit, at least spoiler that shit unless you want to get banned for posting hatless Asahi in a blue board.
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>>151870363
tl;dr lol
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Hee Ho
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>>151696985
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>>151870363
Death is the only solution.
>>
Hoy.
>>
Still going through DeSu.

Keisuke a shit, Midori is best girl.

Also, should I pick up Holy Dance?
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>>151878612
>midori
>best girl
You should pick up Holy Dance.
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>>151879279

My other option is Yoohoo. Plus, Midori's a Tokufag so bonus points.
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>>151878612
>Keisuke is shit
>Midori is best girl

I think you got these two backwards. I mean I can understand if people don't like Keisuke (I personally love him) but how on earth can anyone like the steaming pile of garbage that is Midori? Her voice is atrocious and her character serves nothing more than to be a gigantic idiot. She is a pretty good unit though and has a nice character design, better than Yuzu. Still though, what an idiot.

And yes, Holy Dance is great.
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>>151880596
>Her voice is atrocious
It's appropriate. Unlike Naoya's deep as fuck voice that DOESN'T FIT.
>her character serves nothing more than to be a gigantic idiot
Knowing she's responsible for Keisuke getting fucked and all the clusterfucks happening those couple days makes her go through significant character development.
Also helps that she's very very fuckable, and probably wouldn't say no during all the chaos happening in-game.
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>>151881707
>significant character development
She goes from extremely retarded to slightly less retarded.

>She's very very fuckable
Okay anon, if you like retards then I'll go with it, but your standards are something else. You need to play DeSu2. The girls not only look better and have some actual brains.

Also Naoya's voice is great. I dig it.
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So I found this
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>>151878612
MIDORI IS THE HERO JAPAN DESERVES

A TRUE WARRIOR OF JUSTICE.

And Holy Dance is actually the absolute last spell you really need to be honest. It is the best. Nothing else is as good if you're running a magic hero.

>>151881707
Naoya's voice fits for the same reason his retarded coat fits. But none of it makes a lick of sense until you see his plotline unfurl a bit more.
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>>151883105
>>151882619
I have played and beat both DeSu 1 and 2. I'm not the Anon playing thru DeSu1 blind.

My own opinion is that Midori goes from a shit character to an okay one. Naoya's voice should not be that fucking deep, I'd expect that to be Gin's voice instead. Knowing who Naoya is, and his full plotline still does not change how unfitting his voice is in my eyes.

And yeah, I like Otome and Hinako when it comes to DeSu2.
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>>151883032
so fuck you with your cancer
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>>151883032
Die.
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>>151883689
I like Midori from start to finish. I mean, her character arc is literally: I have super powers! I CAN BE A HERO! LOOK AT ME! IM A HERO EVERYONE IM A HERO *Death clock 0. Hurk* She gets exactly what the setting says she deserves without rubbing it in or being stupidly grimdark about it.

Except then, of course, you intervene.

Plus I still have a soft spot for anyone who unapologetically wants to be a hero. She's not that much different than TMS Touma except she's a girl and not a dude.

>>151883032
This is the natural evolution of non-Persona SMT desu senpai
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>>151883689
>Otome and Hinako

Your taste has been redeemed.
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>>151883105
>>151880596

All right, cool. Also, thanks to whoever told me to petrify Kudlak, thanks for that. Made that mission so much easier though I do feel a bit cheated out of Bufudyne.
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>>151884323
>>151884350
Thanks, I guess.
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>>151885081
She's cute. Looks like a sexy yandere waifu. Which smt is she from?
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>>151884495
You can petrify that nigger? Amazing. That would have helped.

Fuck that mission.

>>151857841
>Every fucking DeSu1 escort mission
Of course the Amane day 8 "Day one of the Trump border wall construction defense project" battle is even worse at that faggotry. Do not attend that battle if you can help it.
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>>151885413
>she
Suuuuuuuuure.
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>>151884495
>I am the great vampire hunter Kresnik ready to fight my hated rival Kudlak!
>gets wiped to near death in first skirmish
Get it together Kresnik.
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>>151885413
>She
uhhhh
>>
Pastebin says that I should avoid the Luck stat in Nocturne but this does apply for Hard Mode too? I don't want to die because of ambushes.
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Am I doing it right?
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>>151885863
>playing Nocturne
lol
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Post your favourite demons
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>>151887634
Those two and Jack Frost.
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>>151887634

This motherfucker in IV.

>That perfect spread of nulls and absorbs
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>>151887832
>playing DeSu2 and see this demon
>weak to like 4 things
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>>151887634
Pic related, Pixie and Jack Frost
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>>151888439

You have to chain fuse him in order to get the best result or level him a few times and watch all of those Wk turn to Nu
>>
Did the devs balance Drain in DeSu? Because Yama went out like a bitch because of it.
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>>151886179
>not playing Nocturne

What's wrong with you?
>>
Any chaosfag movies you can recommend?
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>>151887634
Why werent these two in Final as main demons?
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>>151770630
>>151771715
>>151771953

I actually was part of the team for this project for a short while, I was in charge of making concept sketches.
The team was a group of friends with their own insiders and shit. It was really alienating and I felt like i was working with a high school project team with people just goofing off and not seriously working on the project. Like most of the discussion on the group chat was really off topic 90 percent of the time and really alienating.
I wish the manager handled it better. I couldn't work on that shitshow for too long.

Fucking disgusting.
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>>151886114
TEN INT ALWAYS
The rest is up to you
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>>151810038
SJ plays dungeon wise like an old SMT, but has nothing on the fusion, setting, sword fusion, and battle system of old smt games.
>>
>SMT4 law pretty much asks you to reject modernity
>people playing edgy weeb grindfests on their 3DSs
>rejecting modernity
>ever even being capable of seeing the potential benefit of doing so
lol
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPce3QwNN1k
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>>151893151
evola go away
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>>151893151

Law routes are near always hilariously hypocritical

>Ever implying YHVH is a caring god
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I've been interested in the raidou games, but is it required to play the 1st?
I really just want to skip to the 2nd since I heard it's a much better game overall.
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>>151891153
Why ten? I think I never gave him points in int until towards the end of the game because I thought it was needed for the Hinokagutsuchi.
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Is Blasted Tokyo the Law Ending, while Infernal Tokyo is the Chaos Ending?
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>>151893905
Improves demon negotiation. 10 Int is enough for the whole game.
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>>151893371
Is evola a drink? What is it?
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>>151894228
never had a problem with it.
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>have to grind for money to buy new Magatamas
>end up leveling up my Demi-fiend and missing skills

Magatama system was a mistake.
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>>151894407
Can't you just level up one more time with the appropriate Magatama? As long as you're not max level, it should be fine.
Even then I'm pretty sure someone told me it does it after a battle anyway.
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>>151894407
>not saving before every level-up
>not switching Magatamas you already have to avoid wasting level-ups
Step it up.
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>>151894007
No. MadMax Tokyo is a AU where God uses Pluto while Devilman Tokyo is a AU where humans become demins and fight back against the angels
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>>151885863
I liked LUCK more than AG.

I gave priority to STR, then VIT, then a tiny bit of LUCK, and finally dumped points into AG if I started to miss too often.
I think LUCK is worth it so you don't get fucked over by the RNG of crits and insta-death spells.
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>>151887634
Always loyal, always strong, and is always here.
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>>151893702
1 makes you appreciate 2 more.
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>>151890950
Natural Born Killers.

Go watch it right now, or I'll kill you.
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>>151894407
Your strategy is a mistake.
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>>151895717
Thanks, I will.
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>>151896269
Nice.

Report your opinion afterwards.
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>want to buy Apocalypse
>but don't want to wait a month to get it shipped from hong kong
>buying local is not an option

what to do bros
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>>151896525
I might have to grab it tomorrow at the video store in the case that it may be cheaper there than Amazon. I'd go tonight but I just had surgery today and need some rest.
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>>151896642
Pirate it.
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>>151896642
This >>151896835
Pirate it, but still buy it.

Or buy it digitally, and then wait until you can get a physical copy for cheap.
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More MTG than SMT, but I gotta share this.


http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=228877

This artist does a lot of MTG stuff in SMT style sprites and they look awesome.
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>>151900023
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>>151895612
Hold up, I'm plaing SMT1 and I had no idea about pascal joining your party? I obviously wouldn't have declined, unless maybe I had a full party and forgot to refight the boss

Is he supposed to show up later or am I fucked? The wiki doesn't make it clear with it's golden apple nonsense
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>>151903214
You may get him later but I can't be sure since you didn't get him the first time.
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>>151867235
>killed """""""god"""""""
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>>151900023
DON'T PANIC
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>>151907259
He killed YHVH, that's as godly as it gets.
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feels good
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WHEN TOKYO SENDS THEIR MIGRANTS OVER THEY ARENT SENDING THEIR BEST

WE ARE GONNA BUILD A WALL

WE ARE GONNA MAKE THE EASTERN KINGDOM OF MIKADO GREAT AGAIN
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>>151911047
>implying the Black Samurai isn't best girl
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>>151911047
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>>151911269
>wants people to read
I would have killed that bitch as many times as it took if SMT4 weren';t so boring.
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>>151911830
Even the angels realized that Mikado's system was shit. The Black Samurai did them all a service by awakening the masses to their current status.
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>>151910456
Good on you!
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Hoy.
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>>151913253
No in fact they helped establish the system after making Akira king.
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>>151907259
Perma killed God on Massacre.
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Hey guys I'm working through Devil Survivor 2 on the 3ds. This is my first SMT game and Im a little confused with the fusing. Should I be fusing as often as I can, or should I be waiting to level up certain demons before fusing them? I'm doing alright going into day 2, but I really don't want to fucking myself over in the long run.

Also, who are the best party members, or does it even matter with the way this game works?

Thanks for the help.
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>>151802164
Yes. Koga Saburo is the only chaos one so his mind degenerates to a beast under a Lawfag while the rest suffer due to alignments the same/closer to Tayamas.
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>>151797606
Xi Wangmu has been a evil goddess in Chinese lore. Sun Wukong and Guan Yu are portrayed better in side quests.
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The kyuuyaku translation seems kind of bad. Has anyone else compared the scripts? I just checked the ending for 2 and it seems off.
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>>151917689
You better be playing Record Breaker. Demons might have certain skills you'll want to pass down that you have to unlock by leveling them up (the grayed out ones). Other than that, you should be constantly fusing your demons so that they're all around the protagonist's level.
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>>151919124
OOOOoookay thanks, that helps a lot. Yeah I'm playing Record Breaker.
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Am I making a mistake by going Dx:Ag:Lu (2:1:1) in SMTIV?
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>>151921704
Nah, Dex build is usable AND fun in IV. Go nuts, but don't forget to throw some points into Vit. so you don't die too many times.
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>>151689261
what if in smt5 you could visit Kamurocho
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>>151697257
>>151766073
>NEVER EVER
It's never been an issue of competence, it's more like it requires sifting through text, a lot of which is grouped with text of a similar type and not necessarily in order, and determining what should be what involves a lot of very hard to test gusesing.

For example, there's a whole document of what seem to be just 'responses', in say, negotiation. But what some expressions will translate as depends on the conversation, you can't just half-ass something that is vague (but makes sense in Japanese) into something more specific in English.

Also some may recall the other translator who originally worked on the script with me is no long around, and I now work a 9-5 job. So time's a problem too. It's not 'never ever', I have the text insertion kit, but it would take more than one person to get it done in a reasonable amount of time.
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DeSu guy reporting. So Keisuke's just dead weight in the party after you slap some sense into him? Also, is Odin worth my fusion material? Because Lucifuge has been putting in work.
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Requesting that Strange Journey dumb Marines in Antarctica shooting demons image
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>>151689261
>tfw stuck on wendigo in desu

why do enemies crit all of the time

this shits rigged, man
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>>151917689
DeSu is a special case because some kinds of demons can actually cover unique different niches there.
For example, you might want to conserve your current healer demon until you can fuse another healer demon with more MP, instead of throwing those skills away in a demon who can't cover that niche.

But other than that, demons who naturally are of a higher level will always be better than the demons that you leveled up to that same level, so try to fuse often and don't let your demons stale away.
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Update on the Nemechi-only, pacifist protags, hard mode "SMT Go" Soul Hackers challenge.

Finally hit a wall. I don't think the airport rival-boss is possible without some serious RNG lucky streak concerning my ability to keep the healer charmed. I can't grind with these demons, I don't want to grind period, and they're not strong enough offensively to survive for extended periods in hard mode combat (great recovery skills though).

Also, fusing in this challenge is annoying as fuck.
>Open menu
>Boot Nemechi
>Skip dialogue
>Buy all five available demons at my current level
>Exit
>Blah blah human observations blah
>Exit
>Enter Goumaden
>Skip
>Skip
>Fuse all demons into mediocre demons
>Exit
>Exit
>Repeat everything several times until I have a party of decent demons
>Fuse those demons into Zeed, who is actually really useful in this run
>Have to start all over from scratch to refuse ideal party
>Hope you don't require more fodder demons because Nemechi has an arbitrary 40 play coin per day exchange limit

I think I probably have to relax the rules substantially and start over, but that sucks and I don't want to because I would rather be playing Devil Summoner like all the cool kids have been doing lately.
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>>151926206
>>151934620
cute! I wana draw some SMT fanart as well
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Are all the areas in SMT IV modeled off actual places in Japan? The sense of realism in this game is amazing.
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So I read the first 2 Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei novels, is the 3rd one required to understand the game or is it non canon?
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http://personacentral.com/persona-5-details-random-mementos-dungeons-persona-fusion/

Sweet mother of edge.
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>>151878612
I middly agree with you.
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>>151940716
>a dungeon that randomizes each time you visit it
yes
Yes
YES
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>>151929260
I think Lucifuge was useful for a long time, while I just fused Odin for a completionist sake. You're good to go fampai.

And I let Keisuke die, so whatever.
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>>151932982
The weak kill the strong.

Prove your worth and survive!
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>>151934069
It sounds like it isn't fun at all. And I bet everything will go downhill from there.

Maybe you should move on to Debisama before you get burned out of SH.
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>>151940079
Since the third book is not translated you don't have too many options to work with.
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>>151941150
So, Tartarus 2.0?
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>>151940716
Sounds like garbage.
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>>151742523

Why is If... splitting off from SMTII and not SMTI?
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>>151942153

Odin turned out to be pretty cool and Shield All was a great move. Then I got Hecate. Good lord.

Also, fuck Day 6's missions
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>>151940716
P5 will be trying too hard the game. Hopefully there will be a 3d mastema model to redeem the game.
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>>151928197

Speak of the devil. If it continued to just be you, would this be an honest-to-god 2025 release or something?
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>>151940716
I can't wait to execute all of your personafus.
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>>151945019
if you
>can't speak Japanese fluently
>can't program
don't bother and stop making gbatemp-tier posts like this. Unless you have relevant skills, you're useless and are simply wasting your time.
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>>151945284
Well, thanks, I guess.
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>>151942445
I probably will, then come back to the challenge run. I'm thinking of just playing the game normally on default difficulty, but still only allowing myself Nemechi demons. Hopefully that doesn't turn out to be too easy.
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>>151945019
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>>151742523
Doesn't NINE happen during the timeskip in SMT1?
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>>151945904
Why did you screencap his post?
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>>151946118

>his
*your
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>>151766998
>le Eridanus meme
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>>151946242
>your
ours*
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>>151946427
>the psp simplified the dungeons
I wonder how that shit was in the original version
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>>151946118
Probably the ebin screencapper.
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>>151766998
>>151946427
After the last dungeon of SMT1, Eridanus is only a baby playground.
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Is Geburah the most boring, piece of shit dungeon is the entire franchise?
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Anyone have a "peaceful days have died, let's survive" gif?
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>>151946427
what the hell is this mess
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>>151946427
Eridanusposting might be singlehandedly responsible for dropping the post quality in SMT threads. It's like the "git gud use buffs I challenge you to a duel" meme but worse.
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Well, fuck.
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>>151954462
But the "use the buffs, retard" meme was genuinely helpful.

Now instead of having casual fags crying because Matador beat their asses and they had to grind for 5 straight hours, we have posts and threads saying: "hey, he wasn't as hard as the memes made him out to be".

Eridanus is cancer though.
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>>151950812
I wish I did.
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>>151943570
It's a production timeline. You are a complete retard EOP if you think that's a timeline of canon. NINE is also obviously in the wrong place.
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>>151950812
This one?
It's the only one I can find in the booru.
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Does anyone know how well the PS3 port for Lucifer's call works nowadays? I really want to play it and I don't have a PS2.
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>>151787882
This, most SMT fans play both Persona and SMT.
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Which stat should I main in Record Breaker?
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>>151959474
Either magic or physical. Both are equally as viable.
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>>151959474
It depends
If you wanna dance things to death, go mag/agi
If you wanna ATATATATATATATA things to death, go str/agi
Both builds are viable. Str hits harder but has to deal with Reflect Physical.
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Devil Digital Saga, english audio or Japanese?
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>>151961530
the dub is fine, I'd say it's just down to personal preference
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>>151960834
>If you wanna ATATATATATATATA things to death, go str/agi
It's tempting when put like that. I went full mag in SMTIV, so physical will be a nice change.
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>>151946427
This looks fun.
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>>151961530
YOUR ASS I MINE
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>>151961530
English.
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>>151961530
You should kill yourself for even asking, you fucking pleb.
Regardless of whatever shit you're consuming (remake of another country, dubs, translations etc.), always go with the original as long as you still understand. If you really feel the need, you can consume other versions as well, then compare and form your own opinion which you really seem to lack you severely stupid shitty subhuman.
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>>151964382
Slow down edgelord. If you wanted a trigger warning on these posts, yhou could just asked.
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>>151964382
Sometimes dubs can be really well done or even surpass the original language, you just have to research when, which is what anon was doing.

So in short, see >>151964579
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>>151965385
>Sometimes dubs can be really well done or even surpass the original language

And den sometimes Tomm Hulett is in charge of localization, mon.
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>>151964382
>hurr durr seeking knowledge of things you're interested in is always wrong

You have a no cognition.
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DED SMT-GEN
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>>151973238
That's a cute girl.
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Why does the SMT team think "a fuckton of warps" makes good dungeon design?

It seems like every SMT game has at least 1 dungeon that has too much warping
>>
Please post the chart ranking you based on how many games you've played
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>>151976413
This.
That part was fucking infuriating.
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>>151940716
>transforming personae into items is back
Fucks yes
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>>151955054
Yeah he hits like a truck
I think tetrakarn works?
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Hoy
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>>151976413
There are only like 20 warps, come on. Eridanus isn't that long, and when you start to explore this part of the sector you've already a pretty strong team, that makes it even easier.
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>>151976413
Honestly, these are mildly annoying at best. Just draw your own map if you really are getting lost that hard. A big part of dungeon crawlers is exploring and mapping out areas, and teleporter zones force the player to pay attention to what the fuck he is doing instead of just wandering blindly, so I don't really think it's "bad" level design, either.

>>151940716
That's an edgy Velvet Room if I ever saw one, but I honestly like just about every gameplay change they have announced so far. Sacrificial Fusions and Item Returning coming back is awesome. Seems they are trying REALLY hard to make that game good.
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>>151940079
The game is after the first book, I think. You're fine.
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I love turning Personae into items, because it makes me use every damn one of them.
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>>151917689
The only difference in party members is their stat growth. STR feeds phys, Mag feeds... well, you know. AGL feeds their ability to act first and score extra turns. Just watch each team member's stat growth when you prep skills each round.

Demons should be fused as often as it makes sense to. Level trumps stats when it comes to damage in this game (Though stats combined with level is amazing.) and older demons level slower than better ones. You should usually be able to fuse away the ones ready to be put out to pasture with new stuff from the auction or other old ones to keep everyone pretty close together.

Don't buy bargain demons. The stat penalties will get into your fusions.

Dialogue choices matter for your Fate ranks so quit picking the sperg options and respond positively to your teammates to Fate them up.

I have not got far in DeSu2 but DeSu1 there were several times where I had to stop and Free Battle grind to beat bosses. Leveling is quick. This isn't a chore. Usually one or two Free Battles was plenty. Don't be afraid to check them out for Skill Cracks or to just take a new batch of demons/team members for a spin. You can retreat from them at ANY time without penalty, even if you got fucking rolled and are down to one last dude with 2hp and two dead demons. There are no consumed items/inn fees/penalties at all.
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>>151932982
Wendigo is pretty tough. Everyone needs to gang up and bully him to survive.

The usual boss tactic for DeSu is to use a Tyrant's ability, which delays the turn of anyone you start shit with. This keeps the snowman from moving as often, but, of course, it's tough to survive multiple fights with him because he's such an ass.
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>>151943771
Hecate carried me through most of Day 7. That's a beastly beast.
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What the everloving fuck, this boss rush in the Naoya route Babel battle is unrelenting as fuck. I got as far as Belzaboul before running out of mana on my MC and Naoya, who're my magic users. Since Belzaboul is a cheating skank, he heals himself with physical attacks.

Any suggestions.
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>>151988098
Drain
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>>151988805
I might, I guess. I would've won the battle if there was a way to restore MP and that is the most frustrating feeling.
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>>151988098
>Babel boss rush
that shits in like every route nigga deal with it.

Your biggest magic mans needs Drain to feed that Holy Dance spam. You ain't getting anywhere without that. Second biggest with elemental flavor dances/hit all spells needs the mana regen passive.

Doesn't Pierce break absorb? And what the fuck is Naoya doing that takes MP? His stats are all Phys-inclined. Unless your protag is Phys, he should be Pierce blasting.
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>>151988913
Fuse some Tyrants, have at least one of them with MC and Naoya. They restore some MP to the party after each skirmish. Have some demons out of combat with Samarecarm as well to ress anyone that dies.
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>>151989010
My main magic man is good old Abel, of course, and he also makes Jezebel a joke because he nulls both curse and fire. I guess Drain is my problem then.

You're mistaken, however, Naoya is mostly balanced but he has a higher magic stat.

My party is basically:
Atsuro: physical
Kaido: physical, with Norn as a healer
Naoya: Mostly magic, with a backup Prayer.
Abel: Pure magic

>>151989084
Yeah, I've got Norn. I might fuse another, actually, just for backup.
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>>151989440
Doh I confused Naoya with Atsuro.
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>>151989440
Norn is a Megami, though. Get some Tyrants, you won't regret it. The way I dealt with the last mission was to just have Abel solo literally everything while the rest of the party hanged back and his demons defended every fight; he was virtually invincible at that point because of Anti-all (make sure he cracks that from Babel's first form before the boss rush) and got so much mana back from Hecate that he didn't even need to Drain anymore.
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In SMT4, in the neutral route, Stephen refers to Flynn as "the one who inheritted his will", whose will is it?
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>>151980874
Yeah, Tetrakarn does wonders on many boss fights in this game.

Well, only the final boss and extra dungeon bosses are left.
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>>151990125
If I had to guess, I'd say SMT1 Hero's.
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>>151990125
His previous incarnation.
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>>151989932
I like my MC's party, it has both Chaos Wave and Devil Speed. I guess I can replace my devil speed demon after beating Babel's first form, though.
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>>151991680
I would suggest getting rid of the Chaos Wave demon, actually, because the bosses you will be dealing are stationary enemies who you can't outrange anyway, so Chaos Wave would actually be hurting you by not letting you get extra turns. But that is up to you, really.
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>>151992272
Well the demon has Deathbound as well, which is very helpful.
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>>151962418
Multistrike and Asassinate make the game very easy. You, Keita, Hinako, Jungo, or Daichi can literally one shot demons with that skills. Let best girl Fumi and Otome nuke everything with their Cthulhu tier magic stats.
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>>151993970
I always liked and used Otome because she has the same stat allocation that I used: tank mage.
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>>151931821
I gotchu
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>>151931821
>>151997159
Best version.
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>>151997159
>>151999704
So, I just ordered pic related. Loved Nocturne; only played one Etrian Odyssey (IV) and thought it was just alright. Still on break 'till September, so I should have enough time for a playthrough - nothing in my backlog interests me right now.

What am I in for, /smtg/?
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>>152000216
A video game.
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>>151959474
>>151962418
>>151996698
Felt compelled to post this image. It's exactly as fun to use as it looks though Joe is better as an ailment supporter. PetraEyes Mazandyne WeakKill +Paralyze DoubleStrike Dodge Grimoire+ or PetraEyes Mazandyne WeakKill +Paralyze Grimoire Dodge KineticVision work as good setups for him.
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>>152000216
Actual dungeon crawling feat. space marines.
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>>151997159
>>151999704
>No smiley
DROPPED
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>>152000216
Shin megami tensei.
IN SOULSPACE.
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>>152000216
>>152000216
Keep in mind you can grind quicker when you have Space Marine out with one demon, since having the full 3 demons out divides EXP a lot in the grand scheme of things. Summon the full 3 demons out only for boss fights, or really tough enemies.
Keep your eyes peeled out in the field. Secrets abound.
Try to max out demons to get their Sources, before you fuse them off. Try to save Sources as much as you can, use them only if you really really really need the skills they give out.
Forma. Learn them, scan them, love them.
Git gud.
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>>152000547
It's not gay to be attracted to a fallen angel right? I mean, he's not human so it's fine, right?

Also what did the original say? I can see a little white box in the Kill you God bubble.
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>>152000216
Pic related. Hope you like secret door hunting.

The atmosphere, themes and characters are great, though.
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>>152000216
Going to add on to what the other anon said: try to continually fuse your demons and fuse as many as possible (use the app that allows you to use the demon's current level instead of base level for fusion). Whenever you go into a new sector, demons that you haven't encountered/fused yet will be blue 'blobs' that you have to kill first in order to see what they are. Continually fusing will increase your demon count, and will render this a non-problem (it's already a minor problem, but some of them can really screw you over if you don't know what to attack with). Also, having the same demon in your party as in a sector will allow you to avoid fights: just speak to the demon you're fighting, and you'll either get an item, macca, healed, or they'll just leave, and the fight will end. Since you played Nocturne you know to register demons whenever possible. Never sell forma, except for the kind you get when you get into 'special' encounters. Even then, always keep a good amount of those formas on you. Always trust the most worthy and devout of YHVH's followers
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Hoy.
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Thanks for the tips, anons. I've kinda already been spoiled on some of the story (pic related), but I still hope to be entertained. In any case, Apocalypse lands over here next month so I can have some spoiler-free SMT.

Pretty sure I want to go Law first 'cause muh YHVH (and I'm part-Russian, too.) Always go Neutral last.
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Is Apocalypse going to be good? SMT4 was a giant mess. Does Apocalypse improve it at all?
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>>152009539
I like SMT IV. I can't remember the last time I got lost and actually had to explore a game. I wish more games let me turn off waypoints.
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>>152009539
Perfectly-executed overhead map, manual skill change order (thank YHVH), just generally fixes every dumb design choice from IV. Demon portraits were improved too.

The Law route is allegedly Persona-tier "we're all friends" cancer, though. Some Amazon JP reviewers said that the game is somewhat geared towards Persona fans too.
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That guy that did the blindfolded Castlevania SotN run at SGDQ is streaming a regular SMT IV playthrough.

Apparently there is a huge out of bounds skip right at the beginning in Naraku. Do SMT games have low level runs?
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Well, it wasn't that hard.
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>>152009863
Dude, the original game was "We harvest childrens brains to feed demons" vs "world of STR survival of the fittest demon gang warfare forever." Power of friendship isn't any less stupid than those.
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>>152009863
Did they fix STR being worthless?
Do Phys skills still take MP instead of HP?
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>>152010298
Devil Summoner?
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Well, that escalated quickly.

>>152010609
Yep.
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>>152010336
>not liking wurld of str mad max demons
Are you gay or something son?
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>The DB busters will never have their own game

So many jack frost variants that atlus can use to make a spin off and they never do it.
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>>152009863
I'm going to go against the majority opinion here and say that "we should all be friends" is not necessarily cancer. It's only bad execution of this that is cancer. A lot of games botch the friendship moral because they start off with the assumption that friendship is good from the get-go, and that the "power of friendship" will help everyone and cure all things. I think that showing friendship as not the "goal" but more as means of getting things done. For instance, have a person who is cold to you initially, but decides to join you due to having a shared goal. Then you can show the character developing throughout the story and have him slowly grow through the shared experiences that you and your party go through. Instead of just having him instantly change once you "become friends" with him, he will slowly start to accept you and become more helpful to you. The most important part is to make sure that the characters do not value friendship for friendship's sake, and that there are tangible reasons why the characters start to like and help each other more.
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SMT x Burning Rangers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMyHJhe2ggM
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>>152012387
I would say power of friendship can work just off the friendship if it is done well. Undertale's true end was literally power of friendship and it nailed it perfectly.

That said, that is an enormous amount of skill, craft, and charm to do something that couldn't work elsewhere in the same way.

Persona actually can get away with power of friendship just because the ENTIRE GAME is befriending people and fixing all their problems by talking to them ten times. In that game (And I would say this applies to Rune Factory for the same reason.), having a finale that does not on some level draw on those friendships would be a failure on the author's part.

SMT, especially 4, is a different beast. But the principles can apply.
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>>152011990
No, no, you misunderstand. World of STR Mad Max #demuns is cool and all, but it IS undeniably incredibly corny. But what he's doing is scoffing at power of friendship when the last game is just as corny but in the other direction.
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>>152013231
>Undertale
End yourself
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>>152013473
Fuck off.
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>>152013473
To be fair Undertale is basically western made SMT with talking to defeat your enemies.
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>>152013473
Undertale is an ok game with a terrible fanbase.

>>152013380
And he has every right to, because the shift in tone is downright jarring.
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On a Seinfeld SMT1 run, who is law hero and who is chaos hero?
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>>152015096
Elaine is law, Kramer is chaos, George is heroine.
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>>152015096
We have discussed this before. Constanza is Law Hero, Kramer is Chaos Hero and Elaine is Heroine.
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>>152015304
What about Tiny Toons SMT 1?
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>>152015304
>Constanza is Law Hero, Kramer is Chaos Hero
But that's the problem. I want to reverse this. Kramer sometimes is cool and knows his shit, and Costanza is the one trying to be power hungry.
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When will Persona finally do a crossover with Raidou?

I'd play that shit.
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>>152015286
I'm tempted to go with this.
>Larry David is heroine.
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Now that Persona is back to using demons, what if SMT IV Final meant more than just the end of SMT IV's story?

Maybe Persona has demon negotiation, maybe some of the cast falls into the expected Hero archetypes. What is P5 is also SMTV and the series are merged into one flagship?
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>>152015991
Persona is the future of SMT.
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>>152014139
I don't know that I would agree but I can understand THAT complaint at least.
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>>152016464
I've finally gotten to the point in the grieving process that I've accepted this. I might conceivably enjoy P5 at this point. Why fight it?


>4F
>You and your friends and waifus, who don't betray you or try to kill you, all go kill YHVH with friendship and beach episodes
>implying SMT hasn't long been dead and buried
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Please look forward to the inevitable liking of Persona 4 after 5s release.

For example of this, see Silent Hill 4
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>>152016805
I sure 4F won't be that bad...right?
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>>152015991
>>152016464
>>152016805
I really hope that you burn in hell whores
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>>152016805
Persona 5 might be a lot edgier and be functionally a way better game than any other Persona game in the series, even the P4babies are complaining about these facts.

Maybe it won't be that bad.
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>>152016910
P4 is good on its own merits though.

Except for Marie. Marie a shit.
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>>152016805
>choosing edgemaster chaos end in Persona
lol no.
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>>152014139
>jarring tonal shifts
>from a game that shifts from "WE HAVE TO SUCK BRAINS OUT OF BABBIES TO SAVE TOKYO DONT JUDGE US" to "throw randumb fish at demon to recruit it"
anon i...
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>>152017553
They are theives right? I could see leaving the rest of the team for dead while taking the biggest heists along with the Chaos Hero.
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>>152015991
P5 is SMT 5 you can clearly see it returning to it's roots
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>>152017676
>classy masked thieves
>ever being not the most honorable and trustworthy in vidya
eh...

The one thing I'm wondering is why all the focus on the combat/dungeons in P5 previews. In the previous Persona games, the RPG chunk was like 15% of the total game time tops.

I guess weebs in school uniforms talking to each other doesn't sell preorders as well but still, who are they fooling?
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>>152017706
I don't.

I don't see friends killing friends or apocalyptic tokyo.
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>>152017924
and ripping off devilman
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>>152018004
Or JoJo.
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>>152016910
No.
If you're comparing SH and Persona, then it'd be P2=SH4
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>>152018835
I'm saying people used to shit on SH4 all day every day, and now it's liked because the games released after were even more shit.
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>fought 3 not-Eva-angels already
>now not-Kaworu shows up
Please tell me Rei is in this game as well.
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>>152019004
>Not contrarians coming back to P2 ironically after they didn't like P3
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>>152022241
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Has anyone recorded the background sounds of Infernal Tokyo? You know, the sounds of fires everywhere, with the occasional explosion going off?

I find them to be relaxing.
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>>152020202
Triangulum.
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Hoy.
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>>151944976
I mean yeah, basically. My regular work is translation, and to come home and do more translation is pretty mentally draining.
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>>152007569
Law and Neutral have the same final boss, Chaos has a different one. But sure, go for it.
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Hoy.
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DeSu fag reporting. I'm going after Belial now (And realizing I need another magic user with Evil Wave) but I wanted to ask about how far I am from the Alignment Lock. I've kept every main NPC from dying but I failed Naoya's challenge due to Bind Spam.
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I'm playing Nocturne and trying to get TDE for the first time, is getting a spell build a waste of time or is it viable with pierce?

A lot of people say Freikugel and focus are a must and that's making me doubt if it will work.
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>>152034036
The alignment lock in DeSu is pretty sudden; it occurs on the 6th day and you aren't really "locked" to any route since you can choose them freely (if you meet the requirements for the route). So, you choose the route in the 6th day.

But you're certainly not doing Naoya's route in this playthrough.
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>>152035570
>But you're certainly not doing Naoya's route in this playthrough.

He can still access it through Kaido.
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>>152034036
Naoya's challenge is necessary for his route. The trick is using Almighty spells, focusing on the center leader demons, and DEVIL SPEED. LOTS OF IT.
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If I'm playing Nocturne on PCSX2 is there any way to make it look less shitty? I'm running it at 2x native resolution with anisotropic filtering but it still looks pretty bad.
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>>152040061
Do you have Texture Filtering on? It looks fine to me, and I have that on but not Anisotropic Filtering on. Alternatively, press F9 while PCSX2 is the main window.
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>people talking about division
>not just nuking it all permanently
White are right.
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>>151903214
You have to fuse pascal.
If you do he disappears as Cerberus after the Echo boss and can reappear to join. If you don't, I don't think it will join apparently. I'd say still try it or just recruit one in a dungeon and pretend it's your pet.
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>>152040981
I do. I guess this is as good as it gets for me.
Thanks, anon
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>>152011759
Prepare to grind for 5 hours on Chi You.
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Should I help law hero's girlfriend? Will this fuck my alignments?
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>>152042542
Yeah, the post-golden apple Cerberus just says thanks and fucks off if you didn't fuse Pascal.

>>152045095
Helping her adds a fair amount of law points.
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>>152046059
I've only gone to Shibuya and talked to everyone there, so I went to Roppongi, I still seem to be neutral as my cursor is wobbling. Any choices that will push me into proper law with Ozawa, heroine or the counts?
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>>152046247
Oh I meant went there and gave it to her.
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Hoy.
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>>152042861
You can always increase the native resolution, or customize it yourself. If your computer can handle it, the higher the resolution, the better.
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>>152041964
ALLAHU AKBAR!
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SMTIV was my first SMT. I ended up doing the route where you side with Johnathon. I do know the series is like Fire Emblem Fates though where there are 3 routes. Should I do the others?
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>>152052979
More like MURICA considering who actually nuked a country.
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https://twitter.com/kurumiyuu16/status/765368072924307456

Is it something about Atlus ignoring certain groups of fans?
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>>152043304
That wasn't necessary. All I had to do is get drunk and a couple Sukukajas to outspeed the motherfucker and set up the Attack Mirror.
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>>152055078
Do all of them. Do Neutral last though, as it's the one with the most content.
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>>151956249
>Both Jews and Greeks are under sin
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Do you think that the official artbook of DeSu is hard to find?
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>>152059754
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/1926778731/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1471456020&sr=8-1&keywords=devil+survivor+art
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>Grandma is on life support
>Need to get a ride to visit her
>Greyhound got cancelled and all other rides are booked
>Cat went missing this morning
If my cat doesn't show up by tonight I'm just gonna kill myself this weekend. I'm so tired of this.
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>>152060284
Oh, it's cheaper here than what I found in a local store. Thanks, anon.
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>>152061586
Support your local stores!
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>new models are cartoonish as fuck
V ruined.
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>>152061978
Well, can't get any worse than SMT IV.
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>>152061624
t. local stores

I'm gonna see if I can negotiate with them, I would like to support them.
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>>152060513
Your parents are gonna get terribly depressed if you do it.
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>>152062579
Dead people can't get depressed.
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>>152062120
IV's sprites looked okay though. Also I guess they use certain designs in 3D and save others for 2D?
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>>152062819
Guess you got nothing to lose.
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>tfw when a game being available in Europe is advertised as a feature
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>>152062986
>V's sprites looked okay though
As much as I love the game, those sprites where shit. They were way too small.
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>>152061978
It's literally just a higher quality version of the Nocturne model with brighter hair and lighting oh, who the fuck am I kidding. Not a single person in this general has a genuine thought anymore
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>>152063278
Not even him, nor do I mind the model but the face is definitely different. Protip: thoughts you don't agree with are still genuine you retarded fanboy.
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>>152060513
But anon what if you reincarnate as a non-megaten fan, you're gonna miss on SMT V!
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>>152063470
Protip: Someone calling people retarded aren't automatically fanboys, moron.
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>>152063470
You're comparing a low quality scan to a upressed emulator close-up image, no shit it's going to look different, the only difference in the face is just the eye color and her facial expression being slightly difficult. If that's too cartoonish for you then just blow your fucking brains out
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>>152063647
Someone who thinks any criticism is a non-genuine thought is a fanboy.

>>152063797
>If that's too cartoonish for you
Can't read?
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>>152063981
It's addressed to the original poster
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>>152061978
That's a portrait, not a model.
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>>152064048
Then quote the original poster.
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>>152063185
You need some glasses, dude.
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>>152063278
2d or bust
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>>152060513
I don't know what you were expecting.
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>>152065653
I don't let my cat out. She was sleeping by my head last night and when I woke up she was gone. I think my brother or his girlfriend may have let her out without realizing or she got in the walls. I just want my little buddy back. I can't find her anywhere, not under the sofa or in the closets or in any boxes.
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>>152060513
If you got nothing to lose then go do something crazy man.

killing yourself is a big ol' waste when you could go out there and do anything you want man
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>>152066053
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>>152066212
I just want my cat.
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>>152066053
Unless you just got the cat she'll come back for food/water/litter
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>>152066053
>>152066373
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>>152066481
She hasn't come for her usual feeding time. That's why I got worried in the first place.
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>>152066381
Then go out and put posters up around your neighbourhood saying that your cat's missing and for people to get in contact if they find it

I had my cat go missing a couple years ago and I was devastated but he ended up coming back on his own 2 weeks later
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>>152066543
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>>152066751
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>>152067607
Try not to feel to bad?
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>>152067607
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>>152067760
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>>152067982
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>>152068168
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I found some unused voice clips of the protagonists saying "Summon" and a Vishnu-Flynn clip. Dunno if they are used, pls help /smtg/
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>>152068356
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Here is the Vishnu-Flynn one, where is this used?
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1MaHTOuBH89
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Demifiend saying "Summon"
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0r9DfRTfDmL
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Cute.
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The Hero:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0O8ftY6zt03
Aleph:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0xUi7GJqQwn
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Well, these voices lead me to believe that they are playable, or were intended to be.
Also the Vishnu-Flynn voice clip also could be the one he is used to when he is summoned through mido. rip the dream
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Open world SMT spin-off with zombies and 4 player co-op when?
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>Dat Kazuya
He sounds like a badass.
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>>152071273
>with zombies
But we have demons. And even zombie demons.
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>>152071373
True.
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>>152069623
I think you mixed them up. Here's the actual Demifiend one.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0kFEaKn2XMk
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>>152071273
Shin Megami Tensei: SurVive
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>>152061978
>cartoonish
Enlighten me, I'm not seeing it. Is it because it's Soejima?
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>>152071273
>the only appearance of demons are guns being named after them
>realistic gritty western character design
>ugly women
Fund it
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>>151771715

Honestly ignorant here, what are you implying? I mean, it DOES say SMT on the box of the Persona games. I haven't played them yet, is there something that actually makes them different from other SMT spinoffs?
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>>152074365
It was ATLUS' USA doing.

The devs and everyone in Japan know this RPG franchise as Megami Tensei, aka: Megaten. And from there you branch into different series like SMT, Persona , Devil Summoner, etc.

Persona can't be SMT because there is no apocalypse in Tokyo, and no alignments.
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>>152075049
>Persona can't be SMT because there is no apocalypse in Tokyo
So Strange Journey isn't SMT?
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>>152075252
It's arguable.

Some say it isn't, some say it is. But I really don't care too much about that game, so I don't follow its discussions.
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>>152074365
Atlus USA threw the "Shin Megami Tensei" title on almost every Megami Tensei game for marketing purposes.

In Japan, the Persona, Digital Devil Saga, Devil Survivor, and the three later Devil Summoner games don't have "Shin Megami Tensei" in the title.

Megami Tensei is the franchise, which includes Shin Megami Tensei, Persona, Devil Children, etc.

Shin Megami Tensei is just the mainline series.
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>>152075252
Correct. SMT was started as nothing more than a 2nd draft to MT2's rough draft - Strange Journey is the masterpiece 'third pass' end product that perfected the formula and transcended the series to such an extent that it can no longer be associated with it.
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>>152075682

Yeah, so it's a spinoff of SMT, right?

>>152075049

>Persona can't be SMT because there is no apocalypse in Tokyo

Sorry man, this seems like fan autism to me. Since when did something have to have specific elements of a franchise to be part of that franchise?
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Having come straight from nocturne, persona 3 sure plays like shit.
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>>152075823
>Yeah, so it's a spinoff of SMT, right?
Yes. It literally continues off of Shin Megami Tensei if...

>>152076115
Play P3P.
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>>152076330

Cool. I was thrown off by that guy implying they WEREN'T SMT (spinoffs or otherwise). I was wondering if there was some legitimate reasoning behind that.
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>>152075049
>apocalypse and alignments are what define mainline

I fucking hate this line of thinking, like how people pitched a fit that SJ wasn't set in Tokyo, or get buttblasted about Nocturne because it doesn't have traditional Law vs Chaos alignments.

It's like some people want the series to stick to the same formula forever and stagnate.
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>>152076330
I've put too much time into this already. I heard that having control over the rest of the party makes the game too easy because it wasn't balanced for it.
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>>152076632
It's dull as hell either way. I slogged through it because people kept telling me it got better, but it really didn't to any significant extent.

Now that the movies are out, I see no reason to crawl through the one dungeon for almost a hundred hours for that mediocre story.
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Is there a way to straight up ignore most of the dialogue and just answer to question in DeSu

Even if I hold L R for the text to go faster, for one hour of game I have like 20-30 minute of fucking story
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>>152076632
>I heard that having control over the rest of the party makes the game too easy because it wasn't balanced for it.
Only if you stick with 3 characters throughout the game. If you rotate your party members and keep them all at the same level without grinding, the game gets pretty challenging.
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>>152077293
It certainly seems very overrated either way.

>>152077924
>The game gets challenging if you handicap yourself
Yeah that tends to happen.
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>>152077630
NOPE.
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>>152076592
Some things have to stay the same, otherwise you might as well be playing a different series. If the games are supposed to evolve, they should keep those base elements and play with them in different ways. Different apocalypse scenarios, different ideology explored, and so on. If you just gut the shit that defines these games, why bother buying them when you can buy any other generic JRPG?
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>>152076592
That's what makes SMT what it is, man. Dont project into me that I am one of those guys who only likes one game and hates the others.

If you want to innovate, then you make something different altogether, like DeSu or DebiSama. But if you want a more traditional game, then you make SMT.
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>>152077293
The movies are even more mediocre.

Only the first one and the last one are worth a shit, but even then, your enjoyment for them heavily rely in knowing the source material.
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>>152076632
You should never play P3P first.

P3P only exists for the fans of P3 to roleplay as a slutty girl, and for the retards who refuse to switch tactics in battles.
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I hope cat anon gets the fuck off the computer and goes to look for his cat. They don't tend to travel very far from home.
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Poisma
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>>152086482
Get the fuck out
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>>152086482
I challenge you to a duel
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>>152037465
The trick is also having Protag blow a bunch of actions on his turn so everyone else moves way more often than he does. I did it in one turn that way.
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>>152083939
Is cat anon a new meme? What ever happened to DIC. We need another sperging autist to overreact to a feminist invasion that's not even happening.
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Your daily reminder that uriel has pierced balls.
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>>152076115
P4 plays better but it is still incredibly simple.

It's 70 hours of friendship time management with 10 hours of meh RPG to break the pace.

The RPG stuff is worse than SMT4, but it's over pretty quick.
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>>152092146
hot
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>>152035570


I don't know how but I got locked into Yuzu, I don't get it really; I saved everyone and was agreeing with every one of Midori's chuuni moments.
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>>152092872
Failing to stop Haru from an hero will lock you out of EVERY route but Yuzu.

If you helped Gin deal with Azuma, you should have his route. If you spoke with Amane like twice on day 6 you should have her route.
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>>152093039

I saved Haru from suicide and Belial though. I helped Gin kick Azuma's bitch ass as well.
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>>152093241
That's ridiculous and weird. Did you skip time on day 6? I think the only other possibility is you wasting time with fags like Honda or Shoji but even then to whammy on every other route lead sounds unbelievable.
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>>152093554

That was probably it then. I stopped to talk to EVERYBODY during the week.
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>>152060513
Try not to feel too bad
Really though, stick through. You don't gain much by being pessimistic. Your grandma will probably die peacefully (this is actually a good thing compared to living in constant suffering) and your cat will probably come back. Cats like to be dicks and wander around. Put up MISSING CAT signs around the surrounding area and you might prosper
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>>152093241
Did you waste all your time talking to Yuzu, Midori, Keisuke and Honda? Otherwise, I have no clue how you can have only Yuzu route open.
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>>152093668
I think the only day where you have to make real choices about who to talk to and who NOT to talk to for real results is Day 6, and there you're so incredibly busy that unless you hit Shoji and Honda first and often, I can't imagine you missing all six.

Either you have abysmal luck or a glitch.
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>>152093736

See >>152093668

>>152093990

Well, shit. I thought everyone was going to be important for the ending so I went out of my way to keep tabs on them.
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>>152060513
>Being a little bitch because a grandparent is on life support and you cat ran away from your depressed ass
The only grandmother of mine I care about is dead and so is my favorite cat. I didn't even shed a tear. Get over it
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>>152066381
The normies probably have your cat.
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>>152094251
I still don't believe it. I am nearly certain it's a glitch. If you kept a save at day 6 morning, it might be worth trying that day again.

Did you forget to meet Azuma for Naoya's leftover files or then chose not to hang out with Naoya to decrypt them?

Beyond that it's madness.
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>>152094657

Ok, that's what did it. I forgot about that fucking subplot.
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>>152094828
I think not having Naoya's files will keep you from I think Gin and Atsuro.

Kaido I think requires a lot of actions on day 6 to steal comps from the Shomonkai, and I think he's only open for business if you solved the Mari and Keisuke puzzle correctly.

Amane still should have been open because I think her only triggers are just you chatting her up and getting offered a job by her.

Eh, whatever, may as well NG+ it
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SMT IV pc port when
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>Atlus drops EO4, EO1U, DeSu, Soul Hackers to $10 constantly
>but not SMT4 despite it being worse than all those games.
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>>152095069
To unlock Amane's route you just have to respond positively to whatever she says.

Atsuro -> Ask for Naoya's leftovers and respond positively to his ideas of using demons.

I'm genuinely surprised that someone actually got fucked like this; I remember getting Naoya, Kaido, Yuzu, Amane, Atsuro and Gin on my first playthrough. But anyway, that anon should just do them on NG+. At least Yuzu's 8th Day makes her route decent.
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>>152095337
A Vita port would honestly make more sense. And just get a 2DS anon, they're dirt cheap.
>>152095563
DeSu2>DeSu:O=SMT IV>Soul Hackers=EO4=EO:U
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>>152095563
>shitting on soul hackers
YOU WHORE
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What is a good game?
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>>152095754

I guess my issue was that I came off of mainline so I was assuming each of those dialogue paths was altering my alignment. I promptly told Amane to go fuck herself since Law route is almost always terrible.
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>>152096241
I... did the exact opposite of shitting on Soul H4x0rs bro.
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>>152096375
Strange Journey is an undisputed masterpiece. The rest of this series can go burn and die.
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>>152096749
It's pretty great in DeSu, and this is coming from a massive neutralfag.
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>>152097570

>That bro-tier sacrifice by Arthur
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>>152096749
Law route is extremely good in DeSu, but I am a lawfag... at least by nature. SMT writing is usually too shit to like most routes
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>>152096375
Giten Megami Tensei
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6Y8BCJU9z0

A superior game for a superior platform that directly follows up from the actual Megami Tensei series, and doesn't support censorship unlike its home-console or handheld counterparts.
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>>152100542
the combat is shit tho
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>>152100829
Fuck you I hate you
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>>152101410
well, i love you bro.
peace.
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>>151690039
>feel fight fuck fuse game
Porn game when?
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I went with HARD for my first playthrough of Nocturne.
9 hours in, at Mantra HQ and considering just restarting the game in Normal.
3x prices on everything is what hurts the most.
Can't even use the Compendium without going broke.
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>>152102428
Yeah you might want to then. It eases up over time, especially if you know what's good, but it gets rough again towards the end.
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>Heroine's mind
>all these enemy encounters interrupting movement and I got lost several times while dying due to stupid decisions on my behalf
>Check map
>it's a teleporter segment with some mazes
So. What demons are recommended for boss? I'm level 31.
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who's the one that patched the smt 1 rom in the op because there's graphical glitches
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>>152104667
Orden?
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>>152097570
I've just about finished out my hunger chart and am coming to the same conclusion. Got to do one more run through mainline to get my last ending in each game, but I've noticed I like them less on each replay while I appreciate SJ more each time.
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>>152105076
I mean the process of patching it and then putting it on mediafire

if this patched rom has game breaking glitches could I salvage my save or no
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>>152104667
Fusion is fucked and no full display of party stats?
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>>152102428
>not going for a full autistic 100% completion run on Normal
>not 100%ing the Compendium for the sweet sweet discount
>not time attacking all the Burial Chambers clear, and getting the second Press-Turn Icon
>not maxing out all Magatama and becoming Chaos Lord
>not doing a Hard Mode NG+ run with all these benefits from the start
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>>152102428
You got through the hardest part already. The game balances out a lot after Ikebukuro, and by the end game you should be pretty much unkillable; just make sure to keep a balanced party with you.

Increased prices will always be a issue though; make sure that you only buy really essential things (you can look up what magatamas give which skills, those things get very expensive), at least until you get far enough on the Labyrinth of Amala to do the Hell's Vault minigame for infinite money.

I only ever played these games on Hard and didn't find out that Compendium prices weren't supposed to be that high until very recently. It's doable, so don't worry.
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Wrist mounted computers fucking when?
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>>152108654
Duct tape and smartphones have existed for years.
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>>152108654
https://youtu.be/nPreMCCvMCs
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>>152106250
correct

I also just woke up after the icbms and checking my equipment mangles the money display in the top right

is this normal for the patch?
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>>152109086
>you will be able to play SMT1 on your wrist mounted phone in the near future
Fucking neat. Although I doubt that it will catch on, it seems cool nonetheless.
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>>152109659
You'll be able to play the official iOS release in about 10 years when Apple takes the idea and pretends they came up with it.
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>>152109086
Eh, i prefer something like a Pip-Boy 3000 or an COMP from the SMTI/II era.

Close enough, i suppose...
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>>152110270
SMT x Fallout
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>>152111265
Plus Mad Max and STALKER.
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>>152111641
I'd play the shit out of SMT x Fallout x Mad Max x STALKER
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>>152109086
Technology is getting close enough.

When will we start developing that Demon Summoning Program?
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Playing SMT IV for the first time

Is it viable to stack one stat on level up or should I be more varied? I just want to be a magic beast.
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>>152100542
Speaking of Giten, have anyone of you guys played it?

I wanted to give this game a shot, but it seems to be very confusing if you're not fluent in Japanese.

Is there a website with in-depth guide for this game? Which version is better - PC-98 or Windows?
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>>152113801

With my magic build I went 3 mag, 1 agi, 1 luc for literally every levelup. Worked fine.
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>>152114065
I did,if you dont have a big knowledge of kanji then you are fucked up
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Hoy.
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>>152113801
Agi and Luc supplement every build but SMT4 isn't as tough as something like EO so don't worry too much about it.

2-3 MG, 2-3 Agi, 1 luc is good every level.
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>>152115943
Which version have you played? Did you make it to the ending?

Chiitrans does recognize the text from the Windows version, which is sweet. However, it's a pain to Alt+Tab the game all the time. Does anyone know how to run Giten in windowed mode?
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Strange Journey looks almost exactly like Etrian Odyssey. Are they close?
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>>152118735
same engine
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>>152075252
SJ is just a Devil Summoner 1 spinoff
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>>151689261
new thread when
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>>152121543
mamudoon
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Mabufudyne
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>>152121780
>>152121871
fuckyoudyne
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>>151887634
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NEW BREAD
>>152123475
>>152123475
>>152123475
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>>152123528
For what purpose
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>>152123528
kek
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>>152109520
I've never noticed that sorry.
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>>151689261
what is this weab shit
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>>152106808
You mean Easy Mode NG+
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don't die
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>>152143754
ded
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So do we let this one die
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>>152145837
Yes.
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>>152123475
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>>152145837
No. We hit bump limit and let the early one die unless you want this place to start getting like /feg/.
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Speaking of, report the early thread.
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>>152144748
If you don't want early threads to become a trend I'd advise not posting here and finishing up the old thread. Since you go to /feg/ too I'm sure you can understand where I'm coming from.
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>>152147979
Er, there. Whatever.
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>>152147979
>>152148070
Way to go.
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>>152148126
Least I didn't make a thread 20 posts or whatever before bump limit.
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IV has furigana right?
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>>152148209
It does.
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>>152148289
thanks. any others with furigana?
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Why are Megaten OSTs all good?
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>>152147979
Yep pretty much. I guess I will Sept Arc and go for the AO route. Then proceed to Tri Arc. Since you start at level 20 in Tri Arc, does it distribute your stats in some way that I can't go one build over the other?
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>>152148565
You set your stats.
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>tfw you lose your savefile and haven't started again for a year
This is what I get for pirating I guess.
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>>152148604
That is pretty good. Just have to find the .cia and download it.
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>>152148838
Happened to me with P3FES. Don't feel bad because I was in December and despite people constantly telling me it would get really good it stayed boring as fuck.
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Is there a specific way to distribute stats in Raidou 1 and 2?
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>>152148927
https://mega.nz/#!kVNxiRaA!athgLbqMs-9El1hmsE6eLhoWRYb5HHfy6oMjcLHowfI
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>>152148927
>find the .cia
Why spoiler?

Anyway, should we make a proper new thread or just migrate?
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>>152148943
Str and Vit and some Mag since I think it affects your demons.

>>152149056
Oh how convenient, thanks. I hope the undub voices aren't too ear grainy.

>>152149303
I don't know, bad habit. Sorry. The other thread still exist so migrate I guess.
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Halp, I have a suspend save right before the final form of babel but I keep getting my shit pushed in.
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>>152149923
Not sure what can be done about that. Just keep trying different things.
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wtf? I hate /smtg/ now
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