/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

White were right

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Apparentky Gamestop has preorder posters for Apocalypse

>>151208093
And they are ruined because of that "available at..."

Inanna did nothing wrong

>>151207063
what SMT4 build should I go for? I've just been equalizing stats so far because I'm indecisive but I need to get my shit in order soon.

>>151211040

You've already fucked it

Go MAG 2 AGI 2 LUK 1 every level and learn ine of each elemental spell plus Concentrate and maybe a heal

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>>151204386
>The DeSu2 cast aren't as retarded as DeSu1.

>>151211040
why bother, u can get infinite stat boosts from ng+

>>151211040
SMT isn't really that hardcore a series. Doesn't matter.

>>151211040
World of DEX

>>151195157
PQ sucks compared to EO as far as combat balancing goes.

But then again almost EVERY RPG sucks compared to EO as far as combat balancing goes.

Yes, they messed it up. Hell, they somehow made it feel worse than Persona 4. Every game mechanic punishes you for running anything other than Light/Dark Naoto pain train (Tiny HP/MP pools with small regen each fight punish any non-nuke strategy and the only nukes worth a damn are light/dark because magic is so incredibly weak. Shove three powerhouses up front with elemental flavored melees and you're golden.).

It might be worth just dropping the PQ difficulty to lol and cruising through. It is still a fine game apart from all the game bits.

>This DeSu2 story
This game earned the lolcalization it got.

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>>151213636
B-But DeSu2 is my favorite SMT...
>>151213369
It gets pretty easy later on, so lowering the difficulty is not that necessary. It has the SMT IV syndrome, basically.

>>151214412
The original poster was at the point PQ became easy. Was in the horror dungeon. You kinda have to be told Naoto+Impure Reach trivializes the game. If you think you're playing P4 where Light and Dark are bad bets, you won't have any fun. Sure, you aren't likely to die but it will be boring as hell.

In P4 if Naoto whiffs an instakill three times, the rest of the team has won the battle. In PQ, unless you're overleveled or rocking some endgame personas, Naoto could still get MVP of the fight if she scores a couple of instakills on her fourth try.

>>151214412
>B-But DeSu2 is my favorite SMT...
HELLO RASEN

>>151214412
Of all the SMTs I've played, not a lot, I think DeSu2 is making the strongest showing gameplay-wise. TMS is my favorite.

But still. THAT PLOT.

Hey /smtg/, I'm from /feg/, and I recently bought SMTIV since it was just on sale. I noticed there's DLC though, what DLC should I get, and what should I skip? This is my first SMT btw, and I have $24 on my eShop account.

>>151215478

Most of the DLC is endgame stuff, don't worry about it.

Pay attention to elemental weaknesses, fuse often, get the Scout+ apps ASAP, and never put points into Str

The start of the game is hard as fuck, don't lose hope

>>151215705
I've beaten FE5 and Conquest on Lunatic, I can deal with hard games.

>>151215478
The EXP/Money/Apps DLC are only necessary if you don't wanna waste 500 hours grindan forever for endgame superbosses and DLC challenges.

But I think the consensus is that the Clipped wings ones are good, because they have Mastema in them. Not sure about the Sanat and Ancient of Days ones either. They're mostly end-game bonus fights.

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>>151214837
Tentarafoo+Panic Circle+Impure Reach is just as broken as the instakills. But even then, PQ has the worst balance issues I've seen in the franchise; not even the Smirk system was as unbalanced.
>>151215025
Is he still alive? I haven't heard of CoS in years. From what I remeber it was alright.
>>151215478
Clipped Wings 1 & 2, For the Future...or the Past, Ancient One of the Sun, and maybe Eternal Youth.

And one tip, go with MAG and try to keep bufu and zan on every demon during the first few hours of the game.

>>151215806
As >>151215705 pointed out, the game starts out hard because the bosses can straight up one hit kill you and your demons, there's also no defense stats, and your battle partner always hits the boss with a spell they're immune to. After the Medusa battle, the game gets easy until the route splits.

>>151215478
Get EOU too now that it's on sale.

Or wait for EO4 to go on sale, that one's better.

>>151216248
>after the route split

I went with neutral on my first run and I literally can't think of a hard boss after the route split. The only one was Beelze and he's optional.

>>151215942
>Is he still alive?
Yeah he's still a stupid redditlord as he was before
He used to be tolerable though

I actually got my Debisama playthrough thing talked about on his podcast 1~ year back

>>151216514
I have EOU, I really like Etrian.

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All of a sudden, I've encountered a crash at Gargantua Q in PPSSPP v1.2.2.

Just wanted to let you guys know that it's possible to avoid this crash by playing on an older version of the emulator (v.1.1.1 worked like a charm for me).

1) Use Backupper-M and save your game right before Dr. Thrill's "DEVIL HAZARD" room.
2) Close the emulator and copy folder "memstick" from PPSSPP 1.2.2 to PPSSPP 1.1.1 directory.
3) Run PPSSPP 1.1.1 and load your save file. Now the game won't crash at Gargantua Q fight. Yay!
4) After beating Gargantua Q, use Backupper-M and save your game. Copy the "memstick" folder from PPSSPP 1.1.1 back to 1.2.2 directory.

>>151218595
I'll have to test that out when I replay it. I didn't have the problem on PSP hardware.

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>>151219004
Strangely enough, the game always crashes after the intro part of the Boss Theme (at 0:24), and that didn't happen on any other boss fights so far.

https://youtu.be/OZv3hjJz4NI?t=24s

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Poison Claw

SMT x DmC

>>151215478
Buy all of it. Well, I guess you don't need the costumes. The EXP/Macca/AP DLC is useful for NG+. The others have battles and stuff related to the story.

Picked up DeSu Overclocked from a sale. Should I be building STR or MAG? Also, how much grind am I looking forward to?

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>>151223934
Name's Nanashi the Godkiller has a nice ring to it

>>151223934
SMT x DmC #Demons

BUT DANTE YOUR SUPPOSED TO BEFRIEND THE DEMONS

>FUCK YOOOOOU

>>151207063
>Don't Participate in the new /smtg/ sings:
When is this going to be fixed?

>>151224180
MAG is flatly better, but you'll need the other stats eventually up as prereqs for later skills. STR is viable but less effective, but just pick one and roll with it.

Not a LOT of grind. You will have to do extra battles every so often, especially before major bosses, but the promise of gotta catch em all skills will draw you in or "Well I guess I gotta take these demons out for a test run" doesn't.

Getting two levels from a free battle only takes probably one or two runs and that's enough to put you over most grind-walls. Plus, you can retreat from them literally at any point on one of your team's turns with no penalty so you could just knock over two #demons and run.

And of course, levels trump stats. Don't keep weak demons around. Fusing a demon with less stats but 3 or 4 level gain will still usually get you ahead.

But a protag with levels and stats all built toward damage will wreck shit.

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>>151224180
Magic is way more well-rounded. In the endgame, it has less total damage output than STR, but OC has a lot of annoying Phys Repel demons on the last days. Go with magic. Skill Crack the Dance skills as soon as they show up, along with Drain and Holy Dance. Ice Dance in particular is really useful for a certain boss. Holy Dance is the number one magic skill. Boosting your strength up to 8 for Blitzkrieg is okay, but I wouldn't go further than that.

Not too much grind. You can actually get away with not doing free battles even on a first run at all, but that's trickier. In all the times I've started fresh, macca was the number one thing I grinded for.

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>>151223934

>>151223934
I'd play it if it had the gameplay of DmC.

I liked DmC fite me fags

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>>151225487
>I liked DmC

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>>151224521
FOUR threads until someone pointed it out

>>151225638
I mean I noticed it about 2 threads ago and was planning on fixing it myself. But you faggots hit bump limit when I'm not home every time. So I felt like I had to say something.

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>>151225593
stay mad nigger

>>151225874
You should have stayed silent to see how long it could last.

>implying /smtg/ will participate in the new /smtg/ sings

Hoy.

I'm so tired.

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Hoy.

Didn't know there was a new chapter.

>>151233172
Me too.

>>151233172
>>151235204
Whites are NOT allowed in /smtg/. NOT allowed!

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Some of you guys might remember me, if not i was the guy playing SMT3 for the first time and wanted the TDE, but i was in a bad spot and was stuck on the white rider. Anyway I've defeated all the fiends now, have all the candles, have opened up the 4th Kalpa door, and have cleared the Diet Building. I have a few last questions because it seems i'm prob on endgame now:

-I'm level 64, with my demons around that range as well, am i high enough of a level to take on the remaining kalpa bosses? if not, whats the best level up area/ recommended demons?

-Am i allowed to go to the endgame area if i want the TDE?

-I've also heard about the pierce skill that is needed for TDE's last boss, where can i get it?

Best demons

>>151235948
Level 64 seems good, you'll level up a few more times as you explore the kalpa.
No, you have to clear the labyrinth first.
You'll get it soon-ish, don't worry about it for now.

>>151236294
thanks, last thing, the cursed floor on the 4th kalpa is fucking me up, can i pass it with a lift ball?

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>>151236431
I don't think so, no. Just heal constantly and maybe use that skill that lowers your encounter rate if any of your demons has it just to be safe.

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Can we all agree that Yasuda is a hack?

>>151236938
:>

>>151236938
Who is Yasuda?

>>151236802
ok, thanks.

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>>151237178
Have you enjoyed the game so far?

>>151237113
A hack

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>>151237279
yeah, Its the 3rd SMT i'm gonna beat, (beat Soul Hackers and 4 before it, my computer fucked up so my save files for SMT1 and 2 were gone) It was a fun time, only hard fights in the game i really had were Matador (when i first fought him), Grimekhala (elephant demon), and the white rider. Its a great game and i'm glad i got into MegaTen.

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>>151237892

>Play SMT IV
>Aim for Neutral Route
>Can only pick between Law and Chaos routes, due to me fucking up my alignment points

What alignment should I pick now? I picked mostly Law answers to the alignment questions, but I sided with Walter and Lilith.

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Man I had forgotten about Nocturne, or rather blocked it from my memory.
The PSN EU version and it's TDE glitch are pure evil.

I'm pretty sure I know the answer, but there's really no hope of getting the other endings anymore, right? I've beaten the groovy final boss 4 times and it always glitches in the exact same spot.

Maybe I should just start again, but I really don't like losing my progress.

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>>151236938
>calling Yasuda a hack
>while posting best MegaTen girl

I'm getting mixed signals from you, anon.

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Who the fuck thought that adding the encounter rate from SMT I to the fiends in SMT IV was a good throwback? I've been literally trying to find all of them for two years and I'm still missing some fiends.

Apparently my real-life Luck stat is shit or something.

>>151244892
Airi isn't even best DeSu2 girl, let alone best MegaTen girl. Get some taste.

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>>151246092
Only Nemissa, Maya and Apocalypse Sensei come close to Airi's perfection.

Io and Fumi are best DeSu

>>151224180
If you have trouble with the whacky vampire on round 2, petrify the bastard.

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When ?

>>151236938
Isn't that common knowledge at this point?

>>151241775
Chaos. IIRC, that way you can do some additional sidequests on your next go around.

GOD

>>151207063
>http://www.dmanufacture.com/t-dds2.php

Why does this exist when Kyuuyaku is translated?

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Hoy

as an eurofag I'm glad that we're getting Persona 5 the same day as the US, but what about SMT IV:A? It comes out in 1 month in the USA and Deep Silver didn't say shit about this

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Has the DeSu1 manga ever gotten scanlated/translated past chapter 8? It got an official release here and I bought three volumes today. Pretty nifty.

>>151269283
*scanlated/translated to English, my bad.

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Hoy

>>151261446
Because the sound is better and the art is more aesthetic. Also memes.

>>151253287
Once you do something with your life.

Are the DLC bosses for SMT4 really grind-reliant? I vaguely remember trying them a year ago on easy, barely managing to kill 1-2 angels before getting clusterfucked by every status effect in the game and giving up.

I just came back to clear out my last route and a half from scratch and would like to finish them. I just killed the White for reference, forget what lvl but I've got 200 dex and 110 Ag and Luck + repel phys armor. I don't need strategies, just want to know if grinding is necessary.

Did they put the gold demonica armor from IV in IV:F?

>Keita died

Should I reload my save? Didn't know this could happen in DeSu2

>>151277128
Fuck I don't have a save file beforehand, guess I'm not reloading

Did I lose a lot by letting Keita die? How do I prevent more deaths?

>>151277392
By paying attention and not being retarded.

>>151277128
And nothing of value was lost. Fuck that manlet asshole.

>>151277456
None of the possible deaths in DeSu1 were gated by time like Keita's was, so your answer means literally nothing.

>>151277392
Losing a single character prevents you from getting the best ending.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tUvLiPi9FU-U6QmPDuMF8DyJQTRQ5yiPbqQcurdePPI/edit

That's a guide on getting the best ending. It's pretty spoiler free. Just lets you know what dialogue choices give the most points.

>>151277128
The "true ending" requires everyone alive, but you are not losing much since all the endings in DeSu2 are shit anyway.

>>151277546
Literally what? If you were late to Haru, Mari, Keiskue, etc. they'd die. Too bad you couldn't let Midori die.

>>151277769
You'd have to deliberately ignore their events to be late because their missions pop up ASAP.

Meanwhile Keita's saving event doesn't pop up until you purposely ignore everything else until his mission pops up. No one would even think of doing this considering how DeSu1 doesn't do that.

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>>151277652
Thanks anon, I'll keep this handy for a 2nd playthrough

>>151278331
I suggest doing the Anguished One's route on your first playthrough. The Triangulum Arc uses a weird mix of Anguished One's and Triumphant endings.

>>151278597
Will do

Hoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THu-srFS5G0&index=124

Hot damn this is great music

Hoy.

So if you go Neutral and kill your friends, do you get the Mangekyou Sharingan?

>>151288150
No, you get Taira no Masakado's armor.

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>>151235948
if youre going for TDE just make sure all your party demons are void/reflect Death becuase DEATH FLIES

What should I use to emulate Megami Tensei

>>151289041
Kyuuyaku?

>>151289259
i guess
or just Megami Tensei either works

>>151289508
Higan.

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>>151289714
thanks
can I use Higan for Kyuuyaku as well? or do I have to use something else?

>>151290291
higan and snes9x are both good for Kyuuyaku. I haven't tried the original.

Hoy.

Hoy.

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Hoy.

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>>151298047

Play devil summoner

>>151284285
This post single-handledly convinced me to get DeSu 2 RB.

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>>151303124
>ywn take Walter to an aquarium

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>>151306148
I'm playing it right now.

>>151222481
Debisama 5 with best demonfus when?

>>151307283
Nice. How far are you? I'm assuming you're somewhere around the Museum or the Susano-o temple.

For the people who did the Ueno Hunter Tournament Quest in IV, do you remember how you beat it ?

>>151275948
I never had to grind for them. Just fuse better demons. I would definitely start with the first Clipped Wings and play through them in order because they get progressively difficult.

>>151308745
By being overpowered cheating scum.

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>>151308436
I've cleared the Museum and Asahi-ku Sewers not long ago. I like how you can distract Dantalian for a few turns by smashing paintings and stuff.

>>151308784
Thank fuck, will do.

>>151309585
Almighty spam ?

>>151310386
No, I mean that I gave up when I could do it at a proper time, so I carried on until the endgame where I remembered to do it again.

If you dont want to be like me I recommend you to have at least 10 strong demons in your party. You'll also need to cast and null every elemental, and a couple of full MP refill items.

>>151310880
Thanks for the useful advice, but I was originally trying to ask other people here how they beat the quest because I actually am on my third playthrough on a physical/gun-centered build at level 27, I finished the quest an hour ago, and I just wanted to see how people managed to finish it.

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>>151277751
I still why everyone hates DeSu2's routes. They have been the most interesting ones since Nocturne and maybe DeSu.

I'll never understand you faggots.

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What major improvements did Raidou 2 make over the first game? I am trudging through Raidou 1 just so I'll at least experience it once, but man is it getting repetitive. The best part are the setting and characters, to be honest. It has that old atlus charm.

I'm on episode 2 currently, just fought a literal "car" boss, 7 hours in. How long do you think I have left?

Overall I'm liking pretty much everything about the game, except the gameplay itself.

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Who is the smuggest SMT character?

>>151313729
Flynn

>>151313729
Nyarly is the smuggest Megaten character. Nyarly or the devil summoners.

>>151313631
The gameplay is the one thing that improves in Raidou 2, because the writing takes a hit there.The atmosphere is not as good in the second one, either.

>How long do you think I have left?
It took me around 20-something hours to finish it IIRC. Try to enjoy it though, because it really sounds like you're forcing yourself through it.

>>151313631
What I remember the most of Raidou 2 it's how bad the ambush rate and system were even when you have max luck you're still being constantly ambushed and the damage you get from them it's set on hp % so it provides ridiculous situations such losing 20% of your hp even you're ambushed by a Pixie on max lvl.

>>151312185
Funny that you say that, cause when I say the DeSu2 endings are shit, I mean that they are Nocturne tier bad.

Let us look at what we have:

1. Liberator - humanity is doomed
2. Meritorious/Egalitarian - 2 endings where you ask a mass-murdering monster to brainwash humanity to be up to its standards of development. Extremely defeatist.
3. Restorer/Triumphant - you ask the mass-murdering monster to turn back time and promise to live up to its standards of development without brainwashing. Basically you agree to live with a gun pointed at your head. Again defeatist.
4. Kingmaker - You make your best buddy, literally, God and instead of asking him to, you know, turn back time, you ask for a world that erases everything the human race ever achieved. Plot-induced stupidity at its worst.

See my problem yet?

>>151310254
Also, sometimes it just takes luck not to get fucked over by their RNG choices.

>>151277652
Different guy here, this is extremely useful. Thank you.

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>only took me 40 hours to realize I could be using Mitamas to customize my demon's movesets this whole time
SJ just got 100% better. I still think this Source system is obnoxious as fuck, though.

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>>151316374
The complain against Kingmaker is kind of invalid, though. Alcor is really just a pawn with a human fetish; expecting him to turn back time would be like expecting Kaworu to prevent the Third Impact or something.

And my problem with the routes in other SMT games is how similar they tend to be in certain aspects (which is natural). Just look at SJ and IV - despite the routes differing in tone, they're still pretty similar on paper. The one big difference is that the endings in SJ are more fucked, and that Chaosfag and Lawfags are kind of BTFO'd.

>>151320251
>The complain against Kingmaker is kind of invalid, though. Alcor is really just a pawn with a human fetish; expecting him to turn back time

Before DeSu 2 RB came out, I actually also thought that Alcor as a Sword simply couldn't do anything better than make an entirely new world. But as you can see in Triangulum Arc prologue he can reverse time just as easily as Polaris. Which makes the complaint valid.

>>151321451
He can, but only in Polaris' world. RB renders the original routes meaningless anyway (with the exception of Kingmaker, ironically).

Maybe the Alcor of the canon timeline is just stupid and forgot that other admins would fuck with Polaris' world.

>>151322106
I wouldn't call it stupidity. You have to remember that no one knew what would happen as a result of Alcor screwing around with Polaris' world, since nothing like that has ever been done before. Alcor wasn't even aware that Canopus existed before Triangulum.

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Does anyone know any youtube walkthrough/let's play of all routes in SMT4? I picked the Chaos one first and wanna see all endings, but I don't wanna play it 4 times

Hoy.

Is the Bond Ending in Final really the secret Law route?

>>151330186
Massacre is closer to Law, it carries the whole genocide for the greator good and utopia justifies the means theme.

>>151330734
chaosnigger identified

Hoy friends. I have some new books from a new genre called "literature" here. Would you like some? I assure you they are almost entirely free of negative side effects!

>>151331179
I would really like to know your standards for this identification.

>>151331332
Do you have any manga?

>>151331332
A true hoyfag knows that reading is for faggots.

>>151333061
Reading is for nerds....Id rather bang schoolgirls #hoylife

>>151333268
>Banging schoolgirls when you can fuse with them
How to spot a non-hoyboy.

>>151269283
Remove the cat ears and Abel is pretty /fa/.

>>151333737
How would fusing with one feel like?

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>All this neutral cognitive dissonance because there's genocide and brainwashing in the neutral endings

>>151334185
What*

>>151334209
This was, is, and will continue to be a bad image

>>151334361
It would be extremely painful.

>>151334361
Where is Serph? He might know a thing or two about it.

>>151334502
>Apocalypse is also proving it to be true
Neutral was a mistake.

>>151334521
Would I be cute though?

>>151334674
Okay back to your playpen lawfag

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>>151334784
Very!

>>151334804
I'm not a lawfag.

>>151225638
>>151225874
I also noticed, but seems every but the first didn't, as they didn't use the spoiler.

I'm not singing.

>>151335007
Wow! Where can I sign up for fusion?

>>151325717
hope you like watching ones with people talking

>>151335612
I guess so, but can you tell me?

>>151331332
I would love to, but... I think my Burroughs is calling me. So I better get going.

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>>151225428
Thanks for reposting mg shitty image.

Now I decided to update it a bit.

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How true is this image regarding the SMT universe?

>Minotaur
>he's on the ropes
>-to hit on him, +to hit on us
>ONI KAGURA, CRIT, SMIRK KILL
>ONI KAGURA CRIT KILL
>ONI KAGURA CRIT KILL
>ONI KAGURA CRIT KILL

lol i love games with no meaningful skill component and just random chance.

>>151336648
Get better

>>151335816
No, because I haven't watched any. Is it so hard to enter SMT4 LP on Youtube?

>>151336648
>not using agility buffs and/or debuffs
>not dumping some points into LUCK

Acquire planning skills.

>>151337098
because I don't know which route they will pick?

>>151337218
I did have agility buffs. Reread the post. And my build has been 2 MG, 2 AG, 1 LK every level up.

I beat Lost Dimension with no traitors. Just need to SL with George, Soijiro, and Marco. Hopefully they don't get killed right away.

Marco was lucky, because he's the only time I didn't know the traitor.

Anyway, I'm probably done talking about it. Aside from the Yoko crash, I think it hard crashed one other time at the start of a quest.

>>151336648
The Suku buffs/debuffs are fucking terrible in IV, just don't bother with those, Taru/Raku all day.

>>151337732
Try spamming ice spells at the Minotaur and come equip with demons who have Ice spells.

>>151337869
The True End isn't that much better to be honest.

The true last boss is just called The Bitter End and it's the same asshole only stronger.

>>151337446
A real completionist would denote which route in the title or description. Sorry mate.

>>151337732
I thought it was a Taru spell.

A good tip is to always have some of your party member smirking, that way your opponent will lose turns.

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>>151338008
Yeah, I'm not going back in to it right away. Will probably play something else.

Either Atelier, Neptunia I guess.

I should probably finish EP before P5 comes out. And maybe bother with FES and P4G. I doubt I will be able to burn through that much megaten tho.

Hunger or no.

>>151338379
And I bisected because remember random chance into the second reply when it should have been in the first im a dumb faggot

>>151338634
P4G is like 60 hours of social links and 8 hours of Megaten.

>>151338634
>Atelier

Comfy.

>>151338892
I got to Kanji's dungeon and stopped playing, I think.

I finished vanilla or 3 and 4, but meh. I'll get there someday. Just... not before 5.

>>151338379
Nope, if the smirking party member has to act in their next turn, they'll lose the smirk unless they do a crit and acquire it again.

So you must gamble whether you'll keep exploiting weakness, or do other commands so you don't lose that smirk.

>>151339026
Actually, I say this, but I now remember I said I'd play P4G more when my friend starts it. So I guess his laziness will dictate my own.

Still going for a shitty ending either way.

>>151339026
If you stop playing, you forget what your big SL worries were and you'll never get back to it.

I got full link clear first run without a guide. Feels good man. Wasn't easy though.

>>151339170
Well Protag has the most versatility and is most likely to smirk, but if he smirks, he's definitely getting a second turn, which means he may not smirk if he blows that weakness again.

So I guess it helps me on survival-oriented fights to put my most likely smirker in the fourth char slot? That seems about the only way to smirk in a tactical manner.

>>151339310
I don't care enough to be perfect first time. And it's easier to manage SL in P4G than vanilla.

I mean, you aren't wrong, but it's already been over half a year, probably.

>>151339535
Not really, the turns are always determined by highest to lowest agility, regardless of which place someone has in your screen.

You could use that to your advantage, but I wouldn't risk the protag having low agility.

>>151337446
"SMT IV [route name] ending" would surely get you results. How bad is your googlefu, anon? How do you expect to handle a demon summoning program like this?

>>151340189
So long as he has a demon with higher agility than enemies do he should be fine.

>>151340293
I don't want only the ending, though, I want the entire route

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kahn scans fucking where

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>>151340778
Then google it.

Wish I could have played SMT Imagine while it was available in english.

>>151340778
How difficult is it to go to youtube and type "smt iv law route"?

>>151339551
I planned and expected to fail the first time but I kept reloading eventually to only take productive turns and it ended up falling into my lap with about six days to spare.

I did kinda care because, holy fuck it's 80 hours long who is gonna replay this shit? And because I kinda liked that town and all the stories... except for a couple of weak links like Moon or Devil.

If P4 doesn't invoke any sentimentality toward the town or the characters in you, I really think it's best to quit. It's not a particularly good RPG. It's not a particularly good murder mystery. The time management aspects are barely a game and they expect you to do 80 friggen hours of them. The plot and ending are trash in any aspect that doesn't involve your gang of best friends.

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>>151340797
>that Angel on the second cover
My dick wants you to explain what the fuck Kahn is and maybe also post a close-up of that?

>Margaret: "If you let Marie go do this, all memory you and your friends have of her will be erased.
>Protag: "... wait, so we'll forget the poetry? It'll be like we never heard it?"

>>151341882
Who is Marie? I don't remember there ever being a character in P4G called Marie...

>>151341882
>Bonding with Margaret over the dislike for Marie
Wish they expanded on her because from a looks perspective Margaret was up my alley.

>>151341764
It's some probably shitty manga that's related to If

That's an image posted on a French BBS back in 2010, but I know there's a French anon who has the series, so maybe he can help you out.

>>151341764
Oh, and Tokyopop did the first two volumes, but that's it for English. I dunno about other languages.
I can't even remember if it got a full French run.

>>151207063
so im playing Nocturne and i just beat Matador on my first try. I've heard he was the strongest boss i the entire game so im a little worried the game will be too easy from this point forward. did i just get lucky or is his difficulty exaggerated?

>>151344914
No SMT is as hard as advertised.

>>151336505
What is this? Something from the Old World of Darkness?

>>151342482
Takes place after If... where Male protag and the blonde girl end up in a fight between Gaens and Messians as Thorman and Gotou plot.

>>151241914
buy another copy of the game. your memory card should still work for the other disc.

>>151321451
Doing that brings on Canopus wrath however. And he must have done something to the new world since he's a part of it in his ending.

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Hoy.

>>151341080
Don't worry, a Persona MMO is inevitable.

>>151352285
Persona is the future of the SMT franchise.

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Hoy.

>>151341764
I got the if... manga with the intention of scanlating it as soon as I'm literate and after that I'll try to do Kahn.

>>151356520
Though the Devil Children manga may be my first project since it might be the easiest.

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>>151356520
>manga
you know we don't allow that shit around here.

Wasn't SMTxDmC already made and called SMT4:Apocalypse?

>>151331332
Do you have yaoi?

>>151341080
There appears to be people working on a private server for it with reduced grind.

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>smt IV law
>going after Mastema
>"This time I will fight for real. You will regret this"
>The enemy got the first attack!
>MEGIDOLAON PANDEMIC BOMB MEGIDOLAON
>I die before I can even attack.

So, do I have to grind or...?

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What do you think of this boss?

>>151362378
You have to submit to his magnificence.

Diarama

Tempest

I want to choke my Law and Neutrals friends to death with Lilith!

Wake up

>>151363231
Furbait.

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Hey-hey-hey-hey!

>>151385395
Susanoo's crown is so cool.

>>151379652
>is God of the universe
>is still not as cool as Luceinfeld or Kratan

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>>151385395
That's how Cernunos should look like.

Cernunos' SMT design is shit. SHIT!

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>Midori's fucking voice

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Re-reading this interview will be good for your brain, whatever that means.

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=9291#.USZcAR3FVp4

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>>151390568
>Once that's established, if this guy is cool, he might dress in black, leather, with spikes, like you for example.
Do you dress like a cool guy, /smtg/?

>>151390915
Only leather for now.

I'm far from being as cool as Dagda or Kamiya

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Well guys?

>>151393730
Yeah fuck kids.

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>>151393772

Who else is actually kind of excited for Sun and Moon?

>>151395928
Emerald was the last Pokémon game I played.

>>151396125
XY and ORAS were shit, so don't feel too bad. The info on SM is making me cautiously optimistic though.

>>151395928
From all I've seen I don't like gen 7 at all

>>151395928
Pokémon is dead to to me.

>>151395928
Puppet Dance Performance has kind of ruined traditional Pokemon games for me.

___________Hoy_________

>>151397930
____IKU_YO!____

Black bar general

What kind of setting do you guys want to see in SMT V? How do you want to see the demons unleashed this time?

>>151402570
Just make Devil Summoner 3 or Raidou 3.

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>Jungo has 20 STR and 5-7 in everything else when recruited

Jeepers

>>151404902
He's certainly built to survive in a world of STR.

also makoto a qt

>>151405172

Too bad she's retarded and too busy being Yamato's bitch

SMT x Paprika

I actually like the premise of exploring a dream world, especially if they expand it based on how the Soul Hackers astral projections worked.

>>151405758
It certainly would be a fun new approach and good mythology bait, but then you have to ask yourself how are those dreams going to bring about the fall of humanity?

Is it going to be something like if you demons kill you in your dream you die in real life shit? With a crisis of assloads of people just dying in their sleep, and at first people couldn't understand why? Then it turns out some faggot somehow linked dreams to the Expanse?

What's the hardest route in DeSu2?

>>151406707
Kingmaker.

>Literally every fight has amped skills compared to other routes
>forced to fight against Team Chaos, Law AND Neutral, whith only having Not!Kaworu as your support at the beginning
>Yamato drains your HP and MP during his fight and uses Drain+Magic Ying+Megidolaon combo
>Forced to protect a helpless Saiduq against Polaris
>Polaris' last phase abuses Phys skills like crazy

With that said, I personally didn't have that many difficulties on that route.

In DeSu2, how does the RB-exclusive arc work? Does it transfer things from the 1st arc? Or do I have to start from the ground up?

>>151407818
I see, thanks for the heads up

>>151408903
I think you can buy some of the stuff back with bonus points earned through the Title System at the end of a regular playthrough, but I'm not sure. At least when I started the new arc, most things carried over (except Magnetite,level and demons in your party at the end of the game).

Most of the stuff re-unlocks throughout the first day, but you have to make due with the team given to you for the first 2-3 fights. Fortunately, you start it at level 20 and can freely distribute your stats before the first fight.

>>151408903
Having a save with a clear septentrione route let you have acess to the titles and rewards system and it's pretty much it. I would recommend to keep your cracked skills if you don't want to grind like crazy

>>151404085
Raidou 3
Only in dreams. What kinda of focus would the story go for after he went up against that boss from 1, that sad angry god dude from 2, possibly against another giant disco globe from the nocturne version, and that other weird guy from the manga?

>>151409596
>>151409906
Appreciate it, sorry yet another question here


If I messed up and got one of the playable members killed BEFORE actually recruiting them (so basically I screwed up with the e-mail video thing), is it impossible for me to get the Unkillable title?

(I'm the guy who got Keita killed by mistake)

>>151363231
my president cant be this cute!!!

>>151405758
>exploring a dream world

play smt1 and 2

>>151407818
>>Forced to protect a helpless Saiduq against Polaris
>>Polaris' last phase abuses Phys skills like crazy
I'm fine crushing the other teams, but man, that Polaris fight sucked in the last half for me.

>>151402282
The Black were right.

>>151406372
Nah, just let it be a spin-off where the only stakes are related to the protagonists.

It could be "SMT: Dream Eaters" or some corny shit like that.

>>151413074
The only thing that I was able to find was that yes, team members dying outside of battles will lock you out of Unkillable.

>>151413421
Imagine my face when Polaris in her last phase acted before my first turn and wrecked Fumi in one shot, screwing me out of Unkillable.

Does DeSu2RB have the original opening, or does it only have the new one?

>>151417290
FUCK YOU

>>151416253
Only the new one, sadly.

>>151413369
I've only played up until the first boss and dungeon.

>>151415456
>The only thing that I was able to find was that yes, team members dying outside of battles will lock you out of Unkillable.

Aw hell, okay thanks

>>151419929
Do Io's fate events ASAP.

Just finished the original Devil Survivor and really liked it (despite thinking it ended a bit abruptly, I thought there'd be a bit more at the end).

Should I just look up the other endings or give Overclocked a spin?

>>151415456
>Fumi
Hahaha, yeah. That happened to me too. I was hoping Fumi would be the one to end Polaris since I kept her condition as close to pristine as possible, but Polaris got to her first during that last bit.

I don't like Strange Journey. I hate how they make you look like a lego man.

Playing IV. How do I make Jack Frost good?

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>>151417290
>>151418078
HEE-HOBOY

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>>151426316

>playing nocturne
>just beat mizuchi at kabukicho prison

When does the game get good?

>>151428418
The game got good when this started playing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTHFJacaIb8

>>151428418
When you do

>>151419358
That sucks.

>>151422420
Do you ever want to replay it?

Overclocked plays differently to vanilla, but the extra stuff is locked after you beat a main campaign.

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Is satan now unambiguously the best character of all smt? He's not only the best law hero in II, but even neutral faggots can beat off over the fact that he'll side with you in the bonds ending. And now his new art has a reference to xenogears in it, as well as the william blake paintings that show up in red dragon.

>>151430912
trash

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>>151421047
Should I really? I'm low on Fates as it is (Daichi is the only one at Lv. 3 while everyone else is at Lv. 1 and I just beat Phecda)

Plus Io's stats are really retarded, you telling me she'll die if I don't do her fates?

I hear that party members won't join you on your route select unless their Fates Lv. is 4, and I'd rather have other characters than Io

>>151426316
>>151426623
Homo erotism shouldn't be this funny.

>>151430912
Best is still a throwup between cats and Pascal.

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>>151432104

I think that Mastema is a good guy and everything he says is truth.

>>151433063
Memes aside, everything he said was truth. Like QB he doesn't lie. He just selectively tells you things.

A good MegaTen with robot/android party members when?

Hoy.

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>>151424891
Buy the grinding DLC.

>>151435959
But how does he get all those skills?

>>151436657
Putting high-level skills on Elements is the easiest way to spread the wealth in SMTIV

>>151389476
>can't handle the justice
She's a pretty kickass teammate though all things considered, not like DeSu is hard enough that you need to optimize anything.

>>151430912
ow the edge.jpg

>>151435959
clean your ds holy shit

>>151422420
Overclocked is literally the same game, only with some balance changes.

Three routes have 8th days, Yuzu's, Amane's, and Naoya's, but they all kinda feel like dopey fanfiction. Fine gameplay though.

>>151362378
You probably had immunity or repel to all of his standard attacks. Remove one of the immune demons for one with resistance.

>>151438681
The addition of a Compendium is much more than just "some balance changes", it's a great quality of life improvement.

But, yeah, there's also the addition of more demons to make the lines more complete (giving high lvl demons to some races that lacked one or middle demons to some that had big gaps) alongside a bunch of extra skills that make a physical setup more viable.

>>151440525
>>151362378
Alternatively, the first strike is random. So you could try again and see if you get the first attack, and then pump your party with HP and defense boosts.

>>151438681
>but they all kinda feel like dopey fanfiction

Anyone else noticed that SMT games seem to be doing this a lot lately? We have the original games DeSu, Desu2 and SMT IV, which are relatively cynical with no ideal solutions and even the "best" endings tend to have some crappy drawbacks. And then we get the updated re-releases (well, Apocalypse is not that, but it still fulfills the same role) which run on 110% idealism and power of friendship to force the happily ever after ending no matter how contrived it is.

>>151443219
I swear it's like that one image of the Anime studio owner vs. animator, where the Animator is the guy who was raised on friendship sim RPGs and now he brings it up in every draft meeting

is anyone running snes emu on 2ds? are smt1/2 stable? or is it janky like psp

>>151443219
Eh, with DeSu1, Amane end was more or less the same before and after. Just that we had that ridiculous "talk to people for ten minutes and now all their sins are healed" crap.

Which I could still kinda forgive because I was worried about how they were gonna play the Naoya thing, but it wasn't THAT bad.

Hell, every ending of DeSu1 was pretty good except for Atsubro. Two nerds taking control of unworldly dark powers to serve mankind freely without consequences? Come on. Even with SMT's series standard brand fuzzy-cute nice demons I don't buy that.

Yuzu and Naoya 8th day were just lol though.

And to be fair, the cynical no ideal no best solutions is just as cartoonish and unrealistic as power of friendship crap.

>>151444696
>Eh, with DeSu1, Amane end was more or less the same before and after. Just that we had that ridiculous "talk to people for ten minutes and now all their sins are healed" crap.

The original Amane ending kind of makes it seem like there's some paranoid sensation of being watched all the time with some dark undertones, while the 8th day Amane ending epilogue itself makes it like it's not a big deal, and everyone is actually happier and better people after the fact. But, yeah it's certainly the 8th day that sticks most closely to the original ending.

/smtg/ could i have some money pls?

>>151448589
End Talks

What should I name my terminal?

Mikado? Nigger? or dicks?

>>151449209
Pascal.

>>151449209
"The Law", of course.

>>151449209
Helheim.

>>151448589
Gaaaaaah!

ANON HAS RECEIVED 6000 MACCA

Horrifying macca beast!

>>151443219
Megaten has been trying to appeal to a newer generation of gamers. Apocalypse took it a step further and included a loli who had her lines fed to her by a fertility goddess titty monster.

>>151450453
and you fags all fell for it

>>151450453
sorry, loli sluts drive me nuts

>>151450453
A lot of the edgy kiddos have grown up.

>>151451046
keep telling yourself that

>>151450882
Said Loli starts out as emotionless assassin, but after getting hooked on Miroku's mandala's and with the right coaching by Inanna, she became addicted to the D.

>>151451046
It's less that the edgy kiddos have grown up and more trends have changed. Cyberpunk is dead while Moeshit and Haremshit are popular.

>>151451046
No, shitty otaku grew up and became shitty adult otaku.

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>>151451915

>>151452585
And now they're the ones working on DeSu2, SMT4A, and TMS

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Apocalypse is just a month away, so I have a question for those who have played it. Will I miss any references if I have only finished with the Neutral end in SMT4? I got this problem of having a huge backlog to finish all my games (Especially after I got MHG) Pic unrelated.

>>151452968
Probably not really, except that Walter becomes Lucifer and Johnny becomes Merkaba, but that's explained in the game anyway.

>>151450453
They clearly want the other games to have some appeal to the Persona audience, DeSu 2 and Apocalypse are clear examples of them trying that. It worked for DeSu as the sequel outsold the original and you can see a lot more praise to DeSu 2 in Persona communities than SMT ones.

>>151453181
>and you can see a lot more praise to DeSu 2 in Persona communities than SMT ones.

Because 2 had an anime.

>>151453270
Yeah, instead of giving DeSu an anime so I could see Keisuke crushed like a faggot, they had to do it for the lesser game and even released it a year too early for the re-release

>>151453270
Nobody liked the Devil Survivor 2 anime.

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>>151448589

>>151453181
Weeb money is big money, but to be fair, the weeb stuff, Persona, DeSu2, TMS, still has better plot than SMT4's trash which is what the new players are going to be comparing against.

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I DON'T WANT IO TO DIE I LOVE HER BUT SHE IS SUCH A SHIT UNIT I DON'T WANT TO WASTE FATE POINTS ON HER

>>151453809
>TMS still has better plot than SMT4's trash
Ayo hol up

>>151454021
u herd me faget

>>151453840
>loving someone completely without a personality

Better than Yuzu though.

>>151453840
>Io
>shit unit
How? She's got good ST and MA growth, making her a great hybrid unit.

>>151454245
>Hybrid units
>good
There's the problem. There aren't hybrid skills.

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>>151454245
>literally no defensive capabilities
>hybrid being good when you can have specialization nuke powers

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>>151438490
>implying committing genocide is edgy.