/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General

>>151241183
FIRST FOR LITERALLY NOT DEVING FUCKING EVER BECAUSE I'M A LAZY UNMOTIVATED PIECE OF SHIT

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looking for coderbro in south minnesota willing to abandon project if you have an cool idea
i have house and extra room but you pay your own rent you lazy fuck

>>151240470
Someone actually already made a game similar to this, but I forget the name.

>>151240523
>>151240621
>>151240696
Ah, ok, makes sense.

So when I was talking about the editor earlier, below is a video of me making a really horribly designed map for Future Fragments, sped up by 400% (so this took about 5 minutes), showing off the algorithms and place-able background/foreground tiles, plus a few gameplay objects, and a few seconds of really laggy gameplay (because I was recording while playing) at the end. Forgot to show the un-interactable props, though.

https://a.uguu.se/mpChilWuWiHt_PTa1-_1_.webm

The level editor is something we want to flesh out and turn into an actual RPG Maker-esque program once Future Fragments is done, but for 2D platform games, it's easy as hell to use.
Also still taking any applicants for anyone who wants to port the game to HTML5/webGL etc. for $2,500. [email protected]

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>>151241435
nth for being
>programmer
>writer
>designer
>artist
>narrator
>marketer
>secretary
>investor

such is the life of 1MA

>>151241450
hahahaha
you want a coder to pay to work for you
i want this to be satire but your drunkposting seemed real enough

>>151241654
>no dildo or tentacle pits
Step it up, senpai.

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>>>/gif/9069905

WEBM WITH SOUND
Making the Animal Crossing Gibberish sounds was a lot of fun and pretty simple.

>>151241684
>living with someone for free
entitled millennial detected

>>151241774
Decent sound work, that animation is real goddamn awkward though.

>>151241161
C++ Unity
or GM's Python like language

>>151241774
I would like to know how you went about doing the voice. its very, very good

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>>151241654
Have you already decided on the artists you want to hire? Or know of any other adult projects needing pixelart?

Right now I'm busting my ass to build a portfolio since I'm getting to the level where I feel like my skill is worth real money; gotta keep up the tumblr/twitter hustle for exposure.

In other news, UI is looking good, time to spend six million years rendering the background

What the fuck is this new "I'm an artist, I can help. What language do you use" meme?

>>151241770
Tentacle pits are in the Earth level (two levels ahead), and dildo machines are in the Electric level (the level ahead of this). This level is aliens and lots of bondage and the like.

>>151242163
Your pixel art looks pretty cool; I don't currently have anything I could use your work with, BUT if you wanna email me, I can keep your info in my email and then anytime anyone I know asks for pixel art/artists in general, I can forward them your info :)

My suggestion would be to focus on characters/UI as both of those look great here, and find someone else to do backgrounds though (unless the background isn't finished and that's what you meant by rendering it).

Do you do animation at all as well or?

game about abortion
what does the gameplay look like?

>>151242618
Creative ways to hang the game so you need to force end the task from the task manager.

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>>151242618

You're in a dark cave and you gotta avoid coat hangers, surgical equipment, poisonous clouds, etc.

>>151242618
>earthbound

>>151242345
I'll shoot you an email then!

As far as animation, I haven't put together too much yet, but I'll have much more to show in the next few weeks.

>>151242618

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxpIisRivaE

Like this/

>>151242618
Lots of quicktime events

>>151242057
I spoke in a monotone voice saying the letters from that sentence

"H E L L O A G D G [PAUSE] W O U - " etc.

Then I chopped up all the empty space in between, compressed it, raised the pitch, sped up the tempo, then finally reversed it all.

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>mfw I've been "animating" for hours and only have four and a half frames to show for it

>>151243050
hmmm. intresting

>>151243171
This is normal.
Do not worry.

>>151243171
git gud

>>151243330
>git gud
Reddit is that way
->

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Made level 4 background. Still not certain I want blood or not, but the boss will be a vampire so it's thematic.

>>151243171

The first time I tried animating, it took me a good week to perfect the walk/run cycle.

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>>151243449
Did that really trigger you?

>>151243171

Surprise, good animation takes time. If you want it fast I guess you could stoop to Jasonafex levels and tween animate everything.

>>151243612
I have a buddy with a bad superiority complex who is also an avid redditor. He had me play dark souls at his house for the first time and literally every time I took damage he shouted "GIT GUD". Every. Time.
For over an hour.

So yes anon it triggered me, okay? ;_;

>>151243827

and you didn't tell him to shut the fuck up why?

>>151243873
I did. He laughed and told me to git gud.

>>151243323
>>151243703
>>151243575

This is good to know. I'm not completely retarded.

Still going to make for a shitty progress post

>>151243330

I'm trying

>>151242901
>rootpain
yea, looks just what I would imagine teeth root pain would look like

>>151243938

You got bullied by a fucking redditor, anon. I suggest next time you calmly tell him to quit acting like a bitch before he gets slapped like one. Because he doesn't sound like a good friend.

>>151243827
>m-muh friends
And then you have the gall to tell me to go to Reddit?

>>151243938
sounds like a really shitty friend

>>151244084
I can't. He's the only friend I have anymore. He's usually pretty good.

>>151244094
yea

>>151243827
>having a buddy

fucking normie piece of shit

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>>151243703
>not familiar with Jasonafex or the term 'tween'
>google
>it's furry/scaly porn
>gets almost 400 bucks for his filth

How do I get money for my gamedev activities if I haven't released a game yet?

>>151243050
I'm actually pretty surprised how simple that process sounds. How did you figure it out?

>>151244453
P A T R E O N
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>>151244449

He's also a massive cuck, treats his fanbase like shit, and has one of the biggest egos I've ever seen.

He's walking trash.

He's also attempted to kickstart SEVERAL furry porn themed games, including a shitty beat 'em up starring his own fursona raping/getting raped, and now he wants to try to make a "furry fire emblem" and he's willing to pay programmers a whopping 30 bucks a month for their services!

>>151244658

Patreon will just give me money for gamedeving ?

>>151244790
If you can do good art and lie that you're making progress once a month.

>>151244951

Okay, I can see getting a few bucks on patreon but I want my whole monthly expenses covered.

>>151245117
wew

>>151244790
>>151244951

I've never seen any decent patreons for games that were not porn

>>151245193

This. Unless you're drawing furry porn, or a youtube e-celeb, don't bother with Patreon

>>151245117
https://www.patreon.com/CloudMeadow

Is $7,554 a month enough to cover your expenses?

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WOAH DUDE DO YOU LIKE MY GAEM!!???

>>151245303
the game is also a buggy mess

furries scare me

>>151245365
Exactly. Imagine if you can create something GOOD that caters towards autists! You'll make bank with minimal effort!

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>>151245303

>Experience thrilling turn based combat versus a variety of enemies
>turn based combat
>thrilling

>>151245325
anon you're not supposed to gamedev on drugs

>>151245287
Why not use OOP just for simple things where you'll have a function runniong through another function?

It seems fine to me if you use when it makes sense, not for everything.

>>151245423
>xcom
>not the pinnacle of tension in gameplay

>>151245458
true yesdev

>>151245303

Okay, I want to make a decent family friendly christian game and not some porn smut.

Do I have to give away my real name to receive porn money? Also I heard PayPal doesn't allow porn money.

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>>151245450
>NOT
>DEVVING
>WHILE
>UNDER
>THE
>INFLUENCE
>OF
>DRUGS
>LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>151245458
>It seems fine to me if you use when it makes sense, not for everything.
You mean learn multiple paradigms and don't blindly apply one golden technique to every problem?

Yeah, that's what separates the learned from the newb.

>>151243171
Show us your animation.
I finished >>151233515
today and all in all it was probably 4 or 5 hours. Even thought it's only 6 (new) frames.

my protip would be reuse frames or parts of frames where you can. A finished games is better than an unfinished game.

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>>151245303

>>151245634
>I want to make a decent family friendly christian game
You had me until you said Christian. Are you trying to be Nintendo? Don't try to be Nintendo.

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christmas spray

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Item drops and the menus are almost done up. Mostly functional at this point, along with stats.

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Pretty much finished her for now. Later I'll go in and clean the edges and maybe color.
Got all the layers working well together, which will make outfits more easy in the future.
Some day I'll probably mess with the eyes and hair too since I pretty much copied them from various references.
Blue board, so no nude.

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check out this completely intentional ledge grab mechanic that i definetly intentionally designed and implemented on purpose.

>>151246129

god damn it! This shit always cracks me up.

Can you pose that fucker with a sword? I need that image.

>>151246015
she has no vagina

would still fap anyway

Wow, four progress updates in a row!
>>151246003
It's, uh. I don't know what I'm looking at. But good job anon!
>>151246009
Despite the shit people give you, it's looking good. Looks smooth to play.
>>151246129
It's always a highlight of my day to see progress from this.

>>151246129
hey you live in minnesota? hit me up dude

>>151246357
chicago.

>>151246386
im kidding lad hehe

>>151246339
She does. I just can't show it here. ;^)

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>>151246129

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>>151245750
It's not really in a presentable state, but I guess why the fuck not

I've erased and redrawn shit so many times

I'm going to do the hair after everything else is down

I guess it's time for Day 22 of trying to make video games

All I did today was work on this animation, which has taken me for freakin' ever. And I'm probably going to have to re-do (or at least touch up) most of it as I found a better way to represent hands as I was going.

I also did some more code academy lessons and started online art exercises also at an anon's recommendation.

I forsee the next couple of days being spent on this animation. That said, I'm learning a lot so I don't think I'll move on until I'm happy with it. If I do end something early, I want it to be because I made an active choice to do so, not because I gave up. All I really have to do for now while I study coding is work on art assets anyways. Once the animations start coming together I'll probably use drag and drop to prototype movement though, and maybe start designing puzzles.

>>151246310
modeled sword or current box sword?

>>151247458

box sword.

>>151247383
awkwardly attempted to rotoscope / 10

>>151246129

I love your game

>>151246129
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1470682463236.webm

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>>151247535

I didn't though

It's based on another animation I drew freehand which I reference a video for. With the proportions changed and such.

Rotoscoping might actually have been faster. That is how Prince of Persia did it, if I recall correctly. Still, I'd rather do it this way because I am learning stuff.

>>151247509
what kind of pose do you want

>>151243556
I'm gonna gitcha, anon. I'm gonna make a shmup and I'm gonna gitcha! DEV FASTER!!

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fixed arm length. it was like mr fantastic.

im done for tonight. goodnight agdg

Iv been making sure to direct the side bokube title on mobile to be nice for that style, example being levels with fixed camera setups will keep the UI away from the playing field.

>>151247383
Holy shit you're putting a lot of effort into this

Don't burn your self out, and you're sure to produce good stuff. The more you animate the easier it gets, but even then it takes time.

One thing i like to do is animate a stick figure first then draw the sprite over that, so I'm not wasting time drawing and erasing the sprite.

There's no shame in rotoscoping. Like you said prince of persia did it and it was a gorgeous game.

STAY MOTIVATED. NEVER GIVE UP.

>>151247676
that ain't how you reference, might as well just fucking trace / rotoscope if you think that looks alright
it'll still be deep in the uncanny valley but at least it won't take you as long

>every tutorial on openbor is in portugese

just cuck my shit up

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>>151248019
dont know why webm didn't post*

>>151248048

How do you reference, personally, then? I'm kind of flying by my ass here.

>>151248038

Thanks! I actually am starting each frame with stick arms and legs to figure out the angle and length I want. I've got it onion skinned with the previous frame on one side, and the frame of the rough jog animation on the other to help me figure out where to place stuff. So far it's been a lot of fun!

For now I don't see myself getting burned out, it's more like I'm obsessed with this right now. It's not something tedious I'm forcing myself through, though I wish I had more to show for it at the end of the day. I really want to get this one animation to a point where I'm happy with it before I move on because I think I'll learn a lot that way.

>>151247383
What I ended up doing was making a 3d animation and rotoscope that. Simplifies the process a lot. I'll post it tomorrow if I remember.

>>151245268
You can make a living off of Patreon without drawing furry porn, you just have to make a really solid game.

>>151245365
That said, you can do a furry porn Patreon and get away with anything, even games with horrible writing, programming, and gameplay.

>>151245634
You don't have to give your real name to anyone publicly (they do need it for tax stuff, but again, not public info), and PayPal allows it through Patreon, but not directly on PayPal.
Funny you mention making a Christian game though, as that demographic rivals furries in that you can make games for said market without any concern over quality and they'll buy it like mad

>>151248331
It really depends on how you want to do walk cycles or animation in general; are you going for more cartoony (stretching/squishing/distortion of fast moving body parts), or realistic (gravity/physics affect the "skeleton" of the body in the animation), or something in between?

>>151248449
>It really depends on how you want to do walk cycles or animation in general; are you going for more cartoony (stretching/squishing/distortion of fast moving body parts), or realistic (gravity/physics affect the "skeleton" of the body in the animation), or something in between?

For this project, more realistic is my goal. I actually intended it to be more cartoony, but then I found out I'm absolute shit and designing big-headed sprites and was happy with my more realistic ones.

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Anyone wanna talk about code?

Lambdas are amazing for networking. I just wrote new networking code in C++ that gives me a hard dick.

I add the packet handler to a list and process all packets with one line:

>PACKET_HANDLERS[ m_packet.getType( ) ]( *this );

rather than having a big dumbass switch statement that you have to add a new case to for each packet type

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>>151247509
not sure what kind of pose you wanted.

>>151248628
How good are you with C++?
And any experience with HTML5/GameMaker?

>>151248559
Realism-wise then, I would say to look at slow-motion videos of people running (they have to be on youtube). Also, you can have cartoony animation techniques without cartoony proportions; just look at Overwatch.

>>151248973

That's what I did to create the first one, actually.

And that's a good point, but now when I envision the game I see something closer to Prince of Persia than Shantae, so I think I'll stick with as realistic as possible for now. It also seems like a better starting point for picking up skills. If I understand how a motion is made, I can exaggerate it later, I think.

>>151248331
referencing should never mean trying to copy something one for one as you see it, more like seeing a photo of an outfit you like and then being able to visualize that outfit from any angle as you need for whatever it is you need it for

>>151248973
I'm getting curious about this. I'm making my games with C++ and SDL2 or with vanilla JavaScript, thus I render on the HTML5 <canvas>, and I did small web development projects in the past, however I have no experience with GM. Would I be still useful in your team? Another thing: you have mentioned that it would take 30-40 work days, right? Does that mean full time?

>>151249254

Unfortunately I don't really have that ability. Or at least it comes very slowly and difficultly for me. So for now, I'll do this. I think when I understand the motions better I'll be able to better reference things in that way.

>>151248973

I started messing around with Game Maker in high school about 7 years ago. I gave up on it a couple years later when I wanted to upgrade my skills. I tried deving in Java for a while but it turned into a nightmare because of a bad tutorial and limitations. I've been using HTML/JS/PHP all along, but I never did any game development in HTML5.

This is my first time using C++ in a few years. I'm using SFML and it's great so far

>>151248391

I'd love to see.

Unfortunately I don't even have a beginning of an understanding of how to do 3D animation so that's probably not the path for me. And I'm not really that interested in learning, to be honest. My love has always been 2D games.

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>>151248449
>You can make a living off of Patreon without drawing furry porn, you just have to make a really solid game.

>says the smut writer

Please by all means, link us to a successful vidya patreon that isn't porn

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>>151241435

>>151249784

>salty dev

>>151250000

It's the truth and you know it. I can't think of a single vidya patreon that isn't porn that's thriving, it just doesn't work for game dev

>>151250227
Can u think of a single good patreon? that isnt porn.

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>>151243171
>>151247383
I'm in the same boat. What I've learned from attempting to animate is:
-It really helps to do roughs beforehand, if you aren't already doing that.
-Frames don't have to be perfect and super detailed, they just have to be cohesive enough to make the movement flow. I've read about comic artists describing that their lives became much easier when they stopped considering each panel a work of art and started considering it part of a larger work (the page). So it's kind of like that.
-Going with that, if your keys are alright, you can get away with stuff being a little messy in the middle.
-Basically everything in this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw0h9WmBlsw
>smears
-And finally, most importantly: as an indie dev who's just started animating, it's okay to be crap sometimes. Move on to different animations, and revisit this one when more of the game is in place. You'll improve with time, and it'll show when you come back to this animation.

Just remember: I believe in you.

>>151250561

Nope, Patreon is a way to support degenerates.

destroy Patreon, and we destroy the degenerates

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>>151245268
Don't forget, slash comic artists and illustrators make a decent amount, too.

>>151250669

Thanks for the tips, anon! I am using roughs of a sort. I'll watch the video.

>it's okay to be crap sometimes

I agree, but--at least for this--I refuse to not do the very best that I can, crap though that may be.

Yours is looking great!

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Does anyone have advice for running a greenlight campaign? I'm getting some stuff ready to give it a try.

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>>151250769

25k every two weeks
drawing fanart

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>151250724
>>151250561
>>151250227


https://graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators

feel free to keep scrolling.

porn is not even in the top 10. and only 5 of the top 50.

what you're experiencing is called selection bias.

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>>151251043

>Jim sterling
>gets 10,000 bucks a month

WHAT THE FUCK

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>>151251043
>>151251115

>>151251043
>https://www.patreon.com/simbro

Are you fucking kidding me

>>151251043
Im talking about games.
I thought we were talking about games.
Is this the board i think it is?
What your experience is called: misunderstanding.

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Progress Time:
Got online hiscores working flawlessly, now I just have to make some small tweaks for it, and make it look good, of course.

>>151250924
>put gay furry porn
>get $$$

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>>151251043
simply put, life is unfair.

>>151251306

Holy shit this looks like a garbage playshapes flash game.

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>>151250836
You've got a good attitude about it. It won't feel like you're getting better as you're working on stuff, but in a few months you'll look back and realize you've come a long way from your old work.
>Yours is looking great!
Thanks a lot. Good luck to you!

There's another Skullgirls video that's interesting to watch as well. It can feel a little discouraging, since they use a comparatively large team to accomplish stuff we're trying to do as 1MAs, but it's cool to see their process nonetheless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VkDXBsIXso

Also, the woman in the video posts some good animation tips on her twitter every once in a while: https://twitter.com/kinucakes/status/756286347317354497
Lab Zero occasionally streams themselves animating too, I think.

tfw no game ideas

>>151251115
he literally too fat to walk and thinks youtube videos are hard enough work to justify the amount he receives.

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>>151251043
>Kinda Funny
>Extra Credits
>Kinda Funny Games
>Amanda Palmer supports Zoe Quinn

>>151252056
>Amanda Palmer
what does she even do, though?

>>151251537
>Online hiscores
Vampire-dev?

>>151251806

Thanks for all the info! I've always had respect for the woman in the first video you shared. I can never remember her name, but she does great work.

I kind of wish I used twitter now. Maybe I should start.

>>151252106
Literally whatever she wants, mostly shitty, pretentious """art""" projects.

>>151251823

Just work on a clone of something you don't know how to do in the meantime.

>>151246129
you have got to make this game about fencing skelletons. and you have to make it so you can lop off every limb. and you have to put a headbutt mechanic for when both arms are lopped off. and you have to make it so you don't win the duel until you pick up your opponents skull and kick it off the edge of the map.

I imagine some heated battles where two dudes are just torsos with heads headbutting each other until on manages to pop off the other's head, then he has to frantically crawl roll and try to get that other guy's head off the edge of the map, without falling off himself.

>>151251823
Take a game mechanic you like and make some levels around it. The 2D version of Portal is a very good example of that.

>>151252289
>you have got to make this game about fencing skelletons. and you have to make it so you can lop off every limb. and you have to put a headbutt mechanic for when both arms are lopped off. and you have to make it so you don't win the duel until you pick up your opponents skull and kick it off the edge of the map.

GUARANTEED LET'S PLAY BUCKS

GUARAN FUCKING TEED

ALSO MY MONEY

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>>151252132
Yes. This kind of progress is kinda difficult to post because a screenshot or video doesn't really make sense.

>>151252383
but i want to re-invent the wheel

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>>151251043
>>151251306
>https://www.patreon.com/simbro
This can't be real.
It must be some strange database glitch, or some manner of elaborate ruse at the behest of a trickster the likes never before beheld by mortal eyes.

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>>151252289
>and you have to make it so you can lop off every limb. and you have to put a headbutt mechanic for when both arms are lopped off.
Black Knight simulator 2016

>>151252425
>Yes.
Damn, I'm getting good at this. I remembered you wanted to implement that.

May I ask how you do that, by the way? Don't you need some sort of server which stores this data, and when the game's over, the game downloads/uploads data from/to that server? You already have one, or places like Itch has this kind of support?

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>like JRPGs
>decide to make JRPG-inspired game
>create battle system
>realize my battle system is pretty boring
What can I do to add depth? Microgames or QTEs for attacks might be interesting, like Paper Mario or Costume Quest. But in the end, really simple ones still just feel like "press X to attack" and I can't even think of more complex ones.

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how to inner outline?

i'm using GM surfaces

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>>151252519
Black Knight reminds me of AGDGers

>lop off arm
Attention to detail is for autists!

>lop off another
Books? Pssht that shit's boring.

>lop off legs
I didn't need discipline anyhow!

>What are you going to do, bleed on me?
Fuck you I got this, just need to watch some anime first...

>>151252731
outer outline and shrink

>>151252645
Juice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy0aCDmgnxg

It is where all that "depth" comes from.

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3D guy here working on a scene in unity

so far as graphics in unity goes, what are the graphical capabilities of unity and where i can find resources to things like post-effects and shadows to make scenes look more realistic.

the default shader is working in a way that assets look kinda glossy and glazed. iv done some reading but it i haven't managed to find any good reading material on the subject
i know that unity have good realtime capabilities but not out of the box
any suggestions

>>151252778
that sounds insanely inaccurate
my outline will be "1 pixel in" across a giant surface so I'd be shrinking it by like 0.001% or something

how is inner outline really done?

>>151252620
Yeah, you need a small place to store the scores, basically a small database.
I'm using GM Scoreboard that provides me with that for free and in a really simple and easy to use way.
Don't know if itch has its own service for it, since I'm really new there.

>>151252645
have you tried

press x at the right time to attack
hold x for the right amount of time to attack
press x in a certain rythm to attack
press x really fast to attack

>>151252883
>original image
>make copy colored as outline
>scale copy down
>copy scaled copy and make back to original color
>make the third version the color of the original.
presto

>>151252824
I mean, I know about juice, but I'd like to make things more interesting beyond that. Especially because I can see that, without juice, the system is very barebones and not extremely interesting.

>>151252964
Could be useful if I created a combo system or something. Thanks.

>>151252645
I don't want to discourage you, but JRPG battle systems are pretty boring in general.

If special attacks require mana or something like that, and mana potions are unreasonably expensive, then I just close my eyes and press enter until the battle ends, and save the resources for the boss battle.

Things like this could be easily avoided if: there are more options to refill your mana, like auto regeneration, or maybe have your mana/hp back to full after the battle, but in return it is harder to survive one single battle.

Other things you need to juice it up is tactical decisions. It is the most basic thing, yet most of the JRPGs I've played missed it: magic resistance. Simply give some resistance to the enemies, maybe they can even reflect said magic back to the player. Like this, players always have to figure out first what is the weakness of the enemy, so they can plan out a strategy. And it goes also for the player: let them have resistance potions or gear, so they can not only plan offense, but also defense.

Maybe it is an overkill for simple battles, but I don't see why simple henchmen battles can be as interesting as boss battles. Let there be a given order you have to kill them. Like if you don't kill the medic first, he will resurrect the other members, or heal the wounded ones.

Fun battles are these are so rare, and mostly saved to the end game or for bosses.

>>151252883
floats are precise up to 0.0000001
you should really at least try it

other than that, i don't know sorry

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>>151252828
Someone posted a book on shaders yesterday: http://gen.lib.rus.ec/search.php?req=unity+shader
Also there's pic related, though it's pretty old and I haven't actually read it to see if it's still valid.

>>151253142
>>151253015
thanks, I'll try it out. I just assumed scaling would be messy.

>Work on model
>Taking forever
>Lose will to dev
>Recharge on agdg
>Get back to work
This place really helps me out.

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>his game doesn't have waifu

>>151253162
This image is really old

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>>151253208

tsumugi is not for waifu

>>151253084
>I don't want to discourage you, but JRPG battle systems are pretty boring in general.
It's weird in that I've always know that but I still keep playing them. I guess that when you like the genre you just sort of adapt to it.
>mana
I'm toying with the idea of just removing the standard "attack" option entirely and focusing on magic/skills, since "attack" is just so rarely used once you acquire more magic and you get closer to the endgames. Not sure if it'll affect how interesting the gameplay is. If I did get rid of it, I'd probably make mana regenerate over time since being able to do nothing for multiple turns if you ran out of items would be annoying.

I think making things more tactical is a good idea and you raise good points/ideas. I've got to think more about how to do that, I guess.

>>151241183
why is his face look very weird??

>>151253208
Most people don't care about butthurt weeaboos in /agdg/ who throw a fit because they can't stroke their dick at your game.

>>151253221
Thanks for confirming.

>>151253458
that face is our masterpiece do not insult it

>>151253343
shut your whore mouth and go back cooking that rice.

>>151249245
Makes sense, for sure.

>>151249369
The problem I think here would be not knowing how GM works; if you think you'd be able to pick up on it quickly (one coder friend of mine knows C++ well, figured out GM enough to do HTML5 conversion in around 2-3 weeks of fooling around with it), then yeah, we could use you for the porting of the game.

If that went well, then we could possibly get you on as the backup C++ coder, but that's not a full time job or anything, as it's entirely dependent on when Cheshire has problems, etc.

Also, when I claimed 30-40 workdays, that was pretty much the maximum I figured it would take; if you're skilled with this stuff, it could take far less, but we'd ideally like to get it done by the end of September. That said, if you took a little longer and were making solid progress, then it could go past the end of September, sure.

>>151249784
I said without doing *furry* porn, lol.
Also, we're aiming to make legitimate games that are as good as anything on steam with good gameplay/music/visuals/storyline, but with porn weaved into them, so I mean, whether or not we accomplish that is up to the judgement of the players, but there can be legitimately good porn games.

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>>151252289
i am planning on adding more advanced injury states and dismemberment, possibly even real time mesh cutting if i can.

ill probably add special mutator injury modes like de-cap only or players limbs reataching after a certain amount of time like the red skeletons from castelvania.

im hoping for a single player campaign with a PVP multiplayer mode.

>>151253084
>yet most of the JRPGs I've played missed it: magic resistance
You need to play more games then, even pokemon has it.
also
>Wants mob trash to take more than a minute.
That'll make the game even more boring.

>>151253410
>It's weird in that I've always know that but I still keep playing them.
It looks like we are in the same boat. I can not even say I play them for the story. I don't know. Even the shittiest ones have some pretty good atmosphere, and I just like the build up in the end for the final battle, not to mention when you can watch the after life of the characters while the credits roll.

>>151253142
Floats precision is based on the significant figure of the number.
So a number like 2million have a margin for rounding of like 1k (made up for example).
but a number like 2 would have a rounding margin of like .001 (made up again)

How do you pay artists and musicians? Do you have any arrangements?

I feel like the "most fair" approach is a flat amount once you're sure you've found the right guy(s) and then give them a certain percent of all future earning, but I'm sure you could absolutely get away with jewing the fuck out of somebody by giving them a few hundred dollars for their services and then they get royally boned if you manage to earn thousands in sales.

The sad part is, I'm under the impression that most artists are for the instant gratification. Let's pretend I somehow made a game that earned a million dollars and you only got $1,000 for art/music, I'm sure you would be happy prior to the game's success, but after hearing I made so much you would be pissed off that you only got a measly 1k when I got a million.

>>151254331
Flat rate.

Pay them for chunks of assets.

They get their money now, they get their name out there if your game isn't shit, and you can't fuck them too much because you're paying for reasonable chunks of assets.

>>151254097
>That'll make the game even more boring.
Depends on how you design it. What if battles take more tactical thought and time, but are less frequent? Players could seek out enemies if they wanted to grind, but making each encounter more involved or more relevant could steer the game in an interesting direction. This is assuming that there aren't random encounters, of course.

>>151254190
>Even the shittiest ones have some pretty good atmosphere
It's really true. I don't know what it is. I think sometimes I just like the characters a lot, even if the story is shit. Or the world may be really cool. Who knows why I keep coming back to them?

>>151254097
more like elemental resistance. They make a simple concept into branching concept which make the game become grindy and inventory management become a nightmare for player.

>>151254331
>most artists are for the instant gratification
Well, you can't pay the rent with future success. Besides, getting paid a living wage to work on a game that becomes successful can result in a huge boost in their marketability, which isn't too bad an outcome.

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>>151253458
He's an indie dev.

>>151254026
that looks fun.

>>151254541
>getting paid a living wage to work
>as indie developer
Once again artist has shown their jewness

>>151253926
Thank you for the detailed answer!

I don't think getting into GM would be an issue, but the September/October deadline sadly is one for me. I have a day job, and with only 1-2 hours a day to spare on an ambitious project like yours doesn't feel right.

>>151254505
Everything you said in your previous post has been done by countless jrpgs even final fantasy did it.

>>151254749
How is wanting to get paid a fair wage a bad thing? Indie doesn't mean "treat your contractors like shit". If they're working forty hours a week on your project and you actually want to pay them, like that anon is suggesting, then pay them a fair rate for it. If they're just freelancing and they have other projects, pay them a commission fee that you settle on. You'd want to get paid if you worked on something fulltime, too, right? Regardless of whether or not it was indie.

>>151255016
>You'd want to get paid if you worked on something fulltime, too, right?

I think the guy's point is that the programmer DOESN'T get paid in an indie collab, while the artist expects to both get paid and get % of sales.

You know, I wouldn't be a 2 months nodev if I had a free released cute 2D or 3D cute girl.

>>151255107
sent

>>151255079
>I think the guy's point is that the programmer DOESN'T get paid in an indie collab
To be more precise :

- In collabs, people "work" for free because they want to just like make game
- The only guy always having a problem with this is the artist, throwing the argument that he "needs to be paid to live" while ignoring that both the coder and musician also needs to live but don't rely on the collab to do so.

>>151255107
Is this still a meme?
Here are some 2D girls:
http://untamed.wild-refuge.net/rmxpresources.php?characters
And here are some 3D ones:
http://tf3dm.com/3d-models/low-poly-girl

>>151255107
Also:
http://gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/20/where-can-i-find-free-sprites-and-images

How am I not banned

>>151255457
You couldn't be able to keep up the /agdg/ status quo with pointless shitposting like this if you were.

>>151255079
>the programmer DOESN'T get paid in an indie collab
It really depends on who's spearheading the project. If you're approaching someone else and you're looking to hire them, of course you're the one who's going to pay them. I'd expect an artist who wants to hire a programmer to pay them, not the other way around.

Of course, if an artist and a programmer both want to work for free for future profits, nothing's stopping them and that's fine and dandy. But I don't see the issue with wanting to get paid to work on a project that's not really "theirs".

>the artist expects to both get paid and get % of sales
The initial post actually said the opposite: that artists want to get paid upfront. The idea of percentage based on sales varies widely depending on who you've commissioned.

>>151255242
>The only guy always having a problem with this is the artist
Plenty of artists work for free on games that they consider to be their project as well. There's a big difference between a programmer approaching an artist and asking them to work on the programmer's game, and an artist and a programmer collaborating from the get-go on a shared concept. We all work on our own projects for free. If you make someone feel like it's their project too, and not just some freelance thing that doesn't belong to them, you'd see a definite change in how people approach working on the game.

>>151254331
>do a verification of who the artist worked for before, even before you start working together
>make sure to fill your part of the bargain, don't be a bitch and pay up. show that ur a good customer by meeting the deadlines
>pay a fixed rate for a batch of assets or music
>its better to have some sort of symbolic transfer at the first time to gain a little trust
>always be in touch and oversee the assets, its something that is easy to fuck up

>>151254331
At least for me, I offer musicians/voice actors two possible ways for me to pay them;

- Flat rate, nothing extra after that, pretty straight forward. They set their own rates.
- A greatly reduced flat rate, but in return, I open up a tier on Patreon where I sell their work as part of an audio pack (for VAs), or part of a soundtrack for the game (for musicians), and they get a percentage of all the pledges from that tier for the entire run of the Patreon campaign as well as when we sell it separate from the game when the game's complete.

The people who work with me can choose either method, and if partway through they want to change between the payment methods for whatever reason (they feel the Patreon's not earning enough/they feel it's earning a lot and they want in), that's fine with me too.

>>151254847
Understandable; good luck in your projects regardless! (for anyone coming in late and wondering what we're talking about, I'm searching for someone skilled in C++/Gamemaker/HTML5 to port our game over to HTML5 (or webgl/unity/whatever you like as long as it runs on Newgrounds, we'll pay $2,500 for it plus a possible bonus)).

>>151255079
Why would the programmer not get paid? Personally I try to split Patreon income evenly among people in a project in terms of work done, everyone should be getting their fair share.

>>151255107

I'm looking forward to your progress now that you have all these resources.
>>151255303
>>151255396

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>>151255303
>rmxpresources
You're legally not allowed to use any rpg maker resource outside of the engine.

>http://tf3dm.com
pic related, cute? Let's ask for agdg's honest opinion about this.
The only cute is the X-Girl and she is from an online game called Audition Online. You're, again, not legally allowed to use it.

>>151255396
>6 years ago
>most links are dead
>actually closed as non-constructive

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Trying to make spaceship sprites using photomanip. How's this before I color it?

I am going to make FTL clone for easy money.

>>151255529
I don't see the C++ HTML5 connection. Also, what's the size of the project?

>>151255686
>You're legally not allowed to use any rpg maker resource outside of the engine.
Does that count for original material that was made to be used in a RPG Maker engine? Because that page seems to have original sprites, and the idea that the ToS would prevent you from using your own sprites somewhere else sounds too insane to be true.

>>151256006
5kb

>>151256218
There was a big thread on their forum about it, can't find it. Here's the official answer more or less. As long as the edits are:
- Used in RPG Maker only**
- Not sold for income or sold/shared with a sub-license with terms that are different than the RTP EULA
- Not breaching any copyright (ex. no re-making Final Fantasy sprites for example)

i thought nodev was a meme but i havent worked on my game in 2 weeks and it feels good and relaxed

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>>151256423
>edits
Isn't that the point of contention? If I created completely original sprites, I'd be free to use them outside of the engine, right? If the ones at that site are edits and that's why they can't be used, then I guess that makes sense and I'm just dumb for not seeing that. It's 5:30 AM, I should really go to bed, nothing makes sense anymore.

>>151256438
I know I should have some rest. I'm again in that phase when I sleep 5 hours a day at max and have constant suicidal thoughts. Game making is my drug.

>>151248125
cool looking project, keep up the good work :)

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My first time sculpting a face, could could be worse I guess. How do I into lips and ears?

>>151256834
looks like a tranny.

>>151256834
thin lips huge eyeballs
better than anything i could do though

>>151256834
>am i kawaii senpai~?

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>>151256938
>>151256984
>>151257039
Any better?

>>151257356
i like the Trump hair

>>151257356
wider, thinner lips
larger, more protruding ears

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more equipment icons

>>151257460
Th-thanks

>>151257463
Any advice on how to widen the lips with Zbrush? It's so frustrating, every time I try to change them they look even worse. And the ears are just floppy turds at the moment, I'll definitely be fixing them when I can.

>>151257570
my nigger

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Spent some time tonight setting up a workflow in photoshop with smart objects and the old index painting trick to work on some basic tiles.
Adding grass inadvertently made the tile boarder even more obvious. I'm not stressing over it for now since its placeholders.
Everything loads into the game but the dimensions are a little off. Probably due to the camera setup.

>>151257889
it's shit.

>>151257889
Dont split a glob of grass between 2 tiles.
That will make it not obvious.
common sense.

>>151257570
Is that hat equipable in the underwear slot?

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>>151258507
there's a head slot

this is the equip item for the body slot of this set

>>151258307
Yeah, I know what the cause is I'm just not going to bother with it until after I spend more time working on the actual game.
I don't want to get hung up on making tiles for a game without any mechanics. I also don't want to work on the mechanics of a game with color blocks or, worse, a pre-existing tileset that actually looks good; if the set was actually good I wouldn't want to replace it with my own art because I'd just hate it.

>>151258696
o-oh

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who up for some BADASS ROGUELIKES

>>151250924
shill on facebook, it will reach its goal in two days

>>151257889
Wish I could do that/10.
In other words: I like it.

>>151258914
what will your game offer that isn't already in and better in other "big" roguelikes?

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>>151258765
and the leg slot

>>151259249
it's a MMO

>>151258914
>acronym is FOMP

approved

>>151259249
obviously nothing man who the fuck do you think i am some full-time developer?
the only real difference is that im too lazy to create scrolling so whole floor is just 4-8 rooms

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Name one thing in your game that isn't already in some other existing game

>>151259540
desu i started with acronym after reading it in a book, looking it up in the internet, and realizing that the acronym in book is made up
this made me so angry i decided to make my own meaning of it

>>151259249
on the other hand sometimes simplicity is better isnt it
look at brogue for example

>>151256438
I get more and more anxious and depressed the longer I go without working on anything.

>>151259585
well....uhh... fuck ;_;

>>151259585
No game these days has anything that isn't already in some other game in one form or another. You can't create "original" things anymore, you can only create original interpretations of other things.

>>151259585
you can kill frogs in 102 different ways

>>151259835
It's because you still have some hope left, once you give up it's very relaxing, unfortunately it has consequences (for example I failed 4 out of 5 classes this semester) but what u gonna do

who /rewrites whole code after 1 day of work on new game/ here

>>151260052
Joys of being an enginedev

On the good side I can now go directly to the latest iteration of any thing I've built, instead of doing some random test and then improving it over and over.

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>>151259995

>>151260052
I half ass code knowing I'm gonna have to re do it later. Not to bad, takes an hour our so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zq1yo0lxOU

Wow that's a LOT of platformers. I wonder if creating a platformer goes hand in hand with using an engine.

"Path of least resistance".

>>151260052
Well, it depends. I usually try to do my best to have the best and least redundant and most maintainable code at first, which means sometimes I write some pseudo code on paper before I type anything. With that said, I mostly only rewrite code if I find a better solution later, or when I start to experience performance issues. I'm one of those guys who like to monitor RAM, GPU and CPU performance along with the usual FPS check while testing.

>>151259564
>>151259740
make it smaller but stand out with a fresh theme or mechanics
>>151259585
drafting corpses and giving them military ranks

>>151260052
I never do anymore. I have abandoned so many projects that when i stat a new one the code is fucking flawless because i done it millions times before and it's always the same base code for most game types

singles -> play overwatch then work on that roguelike
doubles -> dev that roguelike I've been thinking about

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>>151259585
my gf

>>151261231
I don't understand your post.

So your gf is not in other already existing games, but she is in yours. Why is that feels worthy?

>>151244658
AHAHAHAHA

I only get 144 bux. If I finish something. ;_;

>>151261224
I do it as the first time I lose or go negative I go back to dev'ing.
And I can't play again until I've made significant progress.
Only it's with Smite

>>151261389
neither her no my game exists

>>151261512
Non existing girlfriends are called waifus, anon.

>>151248628
I've just started learning sepples, but you turned (this) into a pointer? How's the memory allocation going to work out?

Redpill me on making pixelart.

>>151253221
>>151253162
Another thing is the massive cost in size for the baked lightmaps. Enjoy your 10+ GB game projects.

>>151261886
it's a bad idea, learn to draw instead.

>>151261623
* is the dereference operator

>>151255953
Duke Nukem/3D

my biggest fear is performance.

I'm coding maps and everything like nested lists containing objects.

but I'm afraid looping over every lists (like looping the tilesets with the characters, enemies, bullets, sparks) is the worst possible scenario.

my game is a 2D shit on libgdx, how do I overcome this fear I'm doing shit performance?

>>151261963
which in *this case points to the object you are executing the code inside of

>>151262032
>how do I overcome this fear I'm doing shit performance?
Multi-thread everything.

>>151262032
I really can't code. but I do a lot of

for (int a = 0; a < 100;a++)
{
for (int b = 0;b < 100;b++)
{
if (a == b)
{
do action;
a = 1000;
b = 1000;
}
}
}

>>151261886
http://www.kyrieru.com/p/this-first-part-will-cover-many-of.html
http://2dwillneverdie.com/tutorial/
http://makegames.tumblr.com/post/42648699708/pixel-art-tutorial
etc.

And like >>151261912 said, getting into drawing and anatomy helps you understand the basic concept on how things should look like.
http://drawabox.com/

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>>151254026

>>151261963
>>151262043
But couldn't this be done without the dereferencing? Isn't the use of pointers to help with memory management? Are the packets going to be stored somewhere?

>>151262032
Why would you iterate trough the whole tilemap? Just check the next tile.

>>151262032
if it's not stuttering keep going. computers are pretty powerful these days.

>>151262032
>my biggest fear is performance.
Thank fuck I don't have to worry about this. My computer is awful and can't even run Diablo 2 without framerate issues. If my game runs at steady 60, 90% of computers should be able to run it without much hassle at all.

>>151262257
post the one where the player dies

>>151262443
I would if i had it

don't even know what game it is to search for it

Hi, agdg. Been making a simple text game to try and get the basics of programming and C++. I want people to try my game, but everyone is (understandably) scared of running some random .exe file.

So, is there any way to make my game executable seem trustworthy? How do you guys do it when you want people to test your games? Thanks.

>>151262308
>>151262391
>>151262398
is there a better way than doing the following:

for (Enemy e : enemies)
{
for (Tileset t : tiles)
{
for (Spark s : sparks)
{
// Do the game code
}
}
}

>>151262257
some positions on the body it cycles through might be better, looks kinda like a pain in the ass.

>>151262398
Damn, reading that made me want to get a shitty laptop with Win XP for comfy dev times in bed or on the go.

>>151262592
add a fake .cfg file and the folder of fake assets
fill up all info on .exe file so it does display your company or whatev

>>151262516
It's OK I found it.

>>151262604
Yeah

>>151262660
ok so post it

and the game name so I can play it

>>151262592
Have it run through a websight.

EXE-files are scary shit and I won't blame people being suspicious.

>>151262726
No

>>151262780
fuck you

>>151262721
do you have any idea or some tip?

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>>151262726
>>151262859
JK lol

>>151262592
For start, put it on Itch.io or DropBox, GoogleDrive (as I know GoogleDrive scans for viruses, so that's a huge plus).
Second, let us know you better. Simply leaving your exe here won't give you any response. But if you keep on posting progress week after week, we will know that you are actually working on a game, so when you are asking for a feedback, there will be more help.

I don't think exe-s are scary. There are other C++ devs here, and people download their games on Demo Days. Besides, every single engine produces an exe file, so this discussion is kinda meaningless.

>>151262651
That's how I'm devving right now. In bed with my laptop.

>>151262604
what is that? here is my shitty code, maybe it will help.

int b= 0;
int c = 0;
int rectangle[] tilegraphic;
for (int a = 0; a < 25*25;a++)
{

drawtile(map[b,c].tilegraphic[map[b,c]],Color.White);

b++;
if (b==25){b=0;c++;}
}

for(int d = 0;d < 100;d++)
{

if (enimes[d].position = map[enimes[d].position.X,enimes[d].posdition.Y])
{
your dead;
}

}

>>151262904
Just use TrustedInstaller. :^)

>>151262930
>your dead;

Dropped.

>>151263104
cant win them all. :P

>>151262657
>>151262736
>>151262904

Thanks, guys. Thought people wouldn't care about a console text game without assets, that's why I never posted here.

Guess I'll be more active here now. As soon as I have something cool, I'll post.

>>151262930
You can save some resource on the tile drawing part if you only draw tiles which are in a given range (so they are in view distance).

>>151263335
this is a whole map visable completely at once. But yeah I know what your talking about. thx :P

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Who's ready for Lewd Jam?
I want to quickly finish up the things I want to put in my game for DDX then move right on to making a lewd game.

>>151262592
Make handheld raspberry pi devices with your game on them and ship them to interested users

>>151263415
Sorry, I didn't know that. I'm working with a relatively huge map, so I felt the need to add that.

>>151259585
a picture of my dick

>>151263493
>t. nodev

>>151263493
When's the finish date for both?

>>151262872
Basically, it looks like you're coding like a Stalinist. You've got one huge manager class telling all the characters and bullets what to do. Those bullets are completely depending on this one manager, they're basically dumb.

You need to give more responsibility to the characters and the bullets to work where they need to be, when they need to die, etc. You need inversion of control.

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I'm /ideaguy/ing so hard right now, you wouldn't believe the things I've ideaguyed.

>>151263628
Not really. I'll post a screencap of your post on the demo's page if you want.

>>151263667
DDX is Sep 8, Lewd Jam is Sep 16.

>>151263728
shoot

>>151263769
>DDX is Sep 8

Well shit that's less than a month and I'm not even halfway through my demo. No way I can also make it for lewdjam.

>>151259585
My game is a copy of an existing game so I don't care.

>>151263925
if you ripped off my game i swear to god i'm going to fucking rape you with a hot metal pipe

>>151263807
Lewd Jam starts on that day and lasts 2 weeks. Technically you're supposed to start on the 16th and submit it by the 30th so you can easily work on your main game until DDX and only after that start thinking of lewd jam.

>>151264009
;^)

>>151264030
If I make the best game do I get money?

>>151264123
Of course not

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the generated stage model is slowly starting to take some kind of form, though the black outlines are somewhat difficult to work with

>>151264198
looks good.

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I need breast adjectives for E, EE and H cups!

So if I wanted to make a simple fighting game for lewd jam, what's the bare minimum number of fighters I should have? I'm thinking 4-5.
I only do 3D so I'd have to model/texture/rig and animate them and that take a lot of time.

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>>151264123
All basic things are in. Hopefully I will have enough content for DD10

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DDX is in 28 days!

>>151264198
Add more camera shake and make the camera look a bit ahead.

>>151264278
How's that picture related to aggy daggers, again?

>>151264371
Me on the right fishing.

>>151264123
No. The award for the lewd jam is fully themed:
I will swallow the winner's load.

>>151264198
That looks fun

>>151264371
it's super comfy, unrelated game related comfy material is allowed to be associated with agedagger

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pls join mu mmo

Any UE4friends here? Still trying to figure out what the most optimal, least problems-down-the-line solution to an inventory system is