/Domg/

>>151188285
>Two arrows
OH BOY IT BEGINS

second for homosexuals greeks.

Third for Aboleth Traps

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>>151188285
>/Domg/
i shouldn't have expected better from you

Don't forget to join the shitty new meme game.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=MemeOfTheAges

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you're dead kiddo

I want to spank Momiji.

>>151190282
I wish I had a skeleton to keep in my room and hug when I feel depressed.

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I've read the Primer on Blood Magic and now i'm hyped as fuck to play as an Archdevil and take over the world with demons from hell.

However, i have no idea about how to most optimally do this and which nations in which Age are best suited for a FULL BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD PANTOKRATOR game.

Any additional blood-game tips are also very welcome.

>>151190959

Bat blood game strong.

Mictlan and LA Ulm are also good.

>>151191515
Are bats good in all Ages or are they only powerful in EA?

>>151191682

They're pretty lacklustre in MA. In LA they're still good.

>>151190959
>I've read the Primer on Blood Magic
Stopped reading there.

>>151192116
Well smartass, what should i read then for good blood magic advice?

>>151192528
He's just meming, it's all good.

>>151188501
Is it time for [embed][embed]?

Anyway, we should remove china. He is already warmongering on anyone he finds weak

>>151192528
You could try not using that blasphemous magic.

is helheim that bad?
why?

>>151194273

They're not bad, as such. They're just Slightly Worse Vanheim.

So everyone goes Vanheim instead.

>>151194631
This is the worst lie I've heard in a while.

>>151194273
First of all, their death access is shit without summod. Why in the flying fuck would anybody hire a D1 mage for 185 gold, huh?

Second, they can't sail, and their sacreds lose to vanheim and cost a ton (but are still serviceable).

They have valkyries and Dis' for raiding, they have A/D on their strongest guys, so that accounts for something. Overall, I'd never pick them without summod ever. Summod gives them actual skelespam and strong summons.

>>151189726
Join this instead, more meme potential:
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=MemeFastStaleHard

>>151195909
shit ill join both, takes so damn long to do turns i got time.

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>tfw you assemble a nice army to fight some shit
>tfw Lambert wins anyway because all your neighbors were either incompetent or went AI
Well, maybe dorfs are just too OP, we'll never know.

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>>151196365
You can say that

This game was awful

>>151193506
We should remove Bandar Log, he warmongering against anyone who's not him.

Any trick to getting sunmod installed?

Just installed it and worthy heroes 5.5 and only worthy heroes shows up in the mod directory in game.

>>151198428
I, what. Explain more.

>>151198428
Do you have the .dm file in the mods directory?

>>151198428
You need to email Llama for the file right modfile, yeah it's retarded but what can you do. Just get his email on Llamaserver and send him an email, he usually answers within the hour.

>>151198651
Stop trying to get new players to randomly bother llama.

>>151198578
>>151198581
>>151198651


Extracted sunmod to the mod directory, doesn't show up as a toggle-able mod in game.

Extracted both sunmod and worthy heroes at the same directory at the same time and only worthy heroes displays in game.

>>151199279
If you only extracted the folder it won't show up. You need a .dm file.

>>151196365
>cyberdemon
0/10 would not fight.

>>151199389
ty

>151128512
Superior. Human. Tactics.

So....

How does one actually join a game?

>>151200809
Start by reading the OP.

>>151188285
>>151200809
>Play by email guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551


I WONDER WHERE I CAN LEARN HOW TO PLAY BY EMAIL

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>>151196365

>>151201104

I cant actually read tho

-Post in the game to claim a nation according to the game's rules.

Is this that forum?

Cause I'd like to join memegame please.

>>151202975
I'm not sure we do that much here, it's something we SHOULD do but we don't

>>151202975

Some games want players to call nations in the steamgroup thread for that game, so they can bully you for turns more personally. Memegames tend just to be anon though, to better allow players to accuse each other of being Malakal.

>turn 2 push, LA
>routed

>>151202975
Llamaserver has games created in a variety of communities, ranging from this thread to the likes of RPG-Codex and Dom4mods forums. If you're thinking of /domg/ games (ie. games advertised in this thread), they tend to be anonymous so no signup is necessary, games created elsewhere typically expect a confirmation at their respective forums (otherwise the admin will just remove you from the list before game is started).

>>151196365
Lambert wasn't relevant in that game for awhile. Hell, the throne I took from him I didn't really even need to win.

Keep your eyes on the thrones. And Dorfs in general just get dumber as the ages go on.

is the decay effect good?

>>151206998
Most of the ways of applying it are MR negates if I remember right, which is pretty bad against decent troops, but the effect itself is strong enough to kill most things that aren't demons, elves, giants or other random magical creatures.

>>151206998
it takes time to kill, so you better have a way to delay the battle.
or just lose the battle and then watch enemy units die after you retreated.

So at long last my opponent has gone AI after way too long of a battle, but I'm still siegeing his cap. Will the AI still use his scripts or will they rescript his mages and troops?

>>151208203
Probably rescript to fit its tastes.

The really sad part is that hiding the nation info entirely means no score graphs when you win.

Oh well.

>>151211192
Wait holy fuck I am tired tonight.

>>151211007
Can't you disable graphs until the game is over?

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what the fuck is this game even

>>151211817
Looks like your average /domg/ game.

>>151195909
How many are you looking for?

>>151214185

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What's your favorite hero?

>That feel when a bunch of games you're in have either ended, or will in the next couple days.
>Bonus feel for winning all of them.

Do you guys have any tips for getting my mages to target who I want them to target with the spells I script? Like are there formations, orders, or positions I can utilize to make a certain squad get one buff and another squad get the next buff? Or just general positioning that gives buffs maximum coverage on large armies? I feel so lost.

>>151220098
Place square formations close to buffing mages, hold and attack closest orders so they'll stick around to get buffed.

>Mother of Monsters
Alright Crossbreed hordes are fun as fuck. These things are freaky.

>>151219839
Started up a game, had a really great start, was pushing against my fiercest rival, then the war dragged on and on and someone else eventually grinded out the thrones to win after I had lost any enjoyment of the game.

And then I signed up for another one. Kill me.

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jews, we good?

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>>151223572
should be, by now.

>>151220635
Thanks I'll do that, how about for targeting enemies with debuffs/attack spells? Is that just whoever the closest appropriate target is or is there some more depth to it?

>>151224751
Mages target differently from archers. They prefer HP density (this is why giants are often used as 'evo bait') and avoid units with resistance to their elemental spells (eg - a fireball will still do damage to an FR 5 unit, but the fireball caster will only target a block of FR 5 units if he can't aim at a square with non-resistant units). For MR negate spells, they will also preferentially target lower MR units first, but it's weighed against HP density and I'm not sure exactly how.

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>>151224993
When you say HP density does that mean a single target spell will target the beefiest unit and aoe spells will be centered wherever it would cover units with the most total hp?

So like a single giant with 100hp would be the target of a shadow bolt but falling frost would target the cluster of 20 soldiers with 10hp each in front of him?

Also what about spells with no aoe but multiple effects? would they target the cluster or the single big one?

thanks for the replies, it's interesting and helpful stuff.

How good are Iron Dragons in summod?

>>151229042
>So like a single giant with 100hp would be the target of a shadow bolt but falling frost would target the cluster of 20 soldiers with 10hp each in front of him?
Not him, but I believe accuracy is taken into account too. Something like paralyze which has perfect accuracy and is single target would definitely shoot for the giant, but shadow bolt can deviate from the targeted square so the mage would probably aim for the cluster of units instead to increase his chances of hitting something. Falling Frost would definitely aim for the group.

>Also what about spells with no aoe but multiple effects? would they target the cluster or the single big one?
Same way a spell with a single effect would work.

>>151230273
>but I believe accuracy is taken into account too
It is. This is often mistaken for an interest in distance in some guides, but soul slay and so on don't care how far a unit is.

live.

Hey guys, I'm sick of these fucking stock maps and shitty random maps. Where do I get some good maps or a random map maker thing I used to have?

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>>151196365
Fucking slaughtershit

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>>151237894
Check out Desura's forums.

>Ashia 2h file received
Valbad 2h file received
Cirez'sis 2h file received
Amore 2h file received
Eillenon 2h file received
Cynothalu 2h file received
Chimori 2h file received
Ninai 2h file received
>Gondria Waiting for 2h file
Norrping 2h file received
Ceasidh 2h file received
Djeris 2h file received
Celaene 2h file received
Tashna 2h file received
Khaer 2h file received

Thanks a ton Sauro, I was trying to remove Nefiel and speed up the fucking turns but no, you just had to backstab me. I thought we were cool man.

>>151245434
One a day is the way we should play.

>>151189726
I'm going to join this when I get home!

>Just me and the coal burning single mom "PROGRAMMER" that I'm supposed to be "TRAINING" that spilled water all over my Dominions doodles at the office

/domg/ how do I get back at her for ruining my doodles? I'm already making sure she gets canned at the end of the month.

>>151250021
Pillage her capital.

>Abysia Waiting for 2h file
Agartha 2h file received
Asphodel 2h file received
Shinuyama 2h file received
Bandar Log 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Ermor 2h file received
Machaka 2h file received
Man 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Vanarus 2h file received
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received
Vanheim 2h file received
Ys 2h file received

>>151250021
Unleash a horror on her pretender.

>>151250021
Take her out with mind duel?

>>151250974
Don't be silly, anon. Women are mindless.

>>151250568
Fuck off, i still have 10 hours

>>151214185
Anywhere from 8 and up.

>>151250021
Exercise that seduction skill of yours

>>151250021
Roll for anal circumference.

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*BONG*

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memes are fun

so is playing your turns but for now memes will have to do

For the sake of discussion what is the most efficient way to deal with Rain of Stones? Does /domg/ ever put defensive items on mages?

>>151256837
usually I prefer using anti-army stuff to kill armies and thugs to kill lone mages. If you know you must face tank RoS, you need your mages armored and your troops immune to it. When you are trying to move things into magic that explicitly counters them, you should start looking for strategic alternatives.

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>>151252145

>>151257080
That sounds reasonable. I recently ran into a Rain of Stones that I wasn't expecting and lost a lot of stuff. The game was a loss for me at that point anyway but it seems like something to avoid in the future.

>>151256837
Best way to deal with it is to attack other provinces.

If that's not viable (or they have RoS in every province) then send thugs or SCs to clear out provinces for your to advance into.

If that doesn't work (anti-thug/SC measures) armor up your mages and pray your troops can beat his in a slugging match.

>>151189726
>http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=MemeOfTheAges


>Scoregraphs on
>no settings at 300%
>default starting provinces
>12 player max

Are you even trying son?

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>>151257872
>scoregraphs on

>>151195909
How does cataclysm work?

>>151258271
Everyone starts with the same nation with the same shitty troops, you get proper troops from sites you find.

It's pretty fun, might join that game later, but if you want a serious game that ain't it, your success all depends on what sites you find (or you go blood like a dickhead and hope you get a decent bloodsearcher mage).

>>151258431

huh, I'll give it a test run and see if I like

>>151258431
holy sheiiiiit, Skinshifters and Geomancers in capring, I know my RNG in the PBEM won't be anywhere near as good

>>151195909
How does one join a Cataclysm game? I'm finding myself with too much time between turns so I might join this. Either that, or start playing another video game again.

>>151259442
Why would it be any different? Download Cataclysm and whatever mods, make a pretender for a nation that isn't already taken, mail it to Llama.

>>151259442
Just get the mod and join the game as usual.

>>151259656
The nations already in the game aren't Dominions nations so I'm not sure how I choose.

>>151259742
They are all identical except in name and flag, since anything you recruit depends on what sites you find. Basically pick the colour you like the most.

>>151259798
>>151259728
All right then. Thank you.

>>151259742
Pick one with a name that kicks ass.

>>151195909
Can't seem to find the map wrinklytoes6 after downloading the file. The .rar comes with the .map file but the .tgm is under a different name.

>>151259656
>>151259728
How about pretender creation? What should I keep in mind for it?

>>151260093
The .rar comes with both the .tga and the .map, it's all you need. However it's not the final map, will/might change depending on how many players we get.

>>151260274
Depends on what you prefer, just keep in mind what troops you get will mostly depend on random luck.

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>>151260527
When I open the .rar I get this. Is this right?

And also I'm not the other anon but is there any kind of developed meta for cataclysm? Is building for sacreds a bad idea? Am I a dick if I go for blood?

Just a quick announcement that I've handed over admin powers to Hinnom, since he's still in the game and I am dead.

He's Malakal on steam, if you need to contact him.

>>151260651
Not him but yes that's all you need, drop that in your Dom4 map folder in documents.

>is there any kind of developed meta for cataclysm?

No clue.

>Is building for sacreds a bad idea?
If you don't find good ones, yeah.

>Am I a dick if I go for blood?
Blood basically gives you access to reliable troops and commanders without being dependent on sites (especially if you have a bloodsearching pretender). Which is a lot more "safe" than other routes in Cataclysm.

>>151260678
>Giving Malakal power
WHY

>>151252145
gr8 b8 m8

>people who don't know how to install mods
>people who don't know how to install maps
>people who don't know how sending in pretenders works
>and more

Is this le ebin meme to act like complete newfags for Cataclysm or something? We used to have a few Cataclysm games like a year ago, did we get a massive wave of new people or something?

>>151260869

UNLIMITED POWEEEEEEER

>>151260934
I knew how to install mods and maps, just I'd never done Cataclysm before. I've had maps screw up before so I wasn't certain but it turned out I was just missing it in my list.

>>151260869
Because he asked, and had a decent reason (he's in the game, I'm not).

Is there something wrong with having Malakal as an admin?

>>151260934
I don't recall asking how "sending in pretender works", I asked if there's anything I should keep in mind, stuff like "don't choose X it's shit here, choose earth snake for quick expansion". Stop memeing.

>>151260651
>>151260797
Is going for blood on your pretender worthwhile, though?

I was under the impression that most players who have a blood economy in cataclysm games used blood mages out of sites.

Putting blood on your pretender might make a few things easier to access (blood boosters, crosspath blood spells) but doesn't really seem worth it considering the ease of empowerment.

>>151261030
he's evil and hungry for power.don't believe his lies

>>151260274
There's no clear answer because it ultimately depends from your playstyle.
If your pretender is passive, pick an imprisoned or sleeping pretender, pick a lot of scales and minimum blessings, and voilà.
If you play a faction that has good sacred units, less scales and more blessings.
If you want to play your pretender aggressively, even less scales, even more magic paths, and a good chassis (no demilich or hag).

>>151261893
Don't bully Malakal, Soph.

>>151262435
I was referring specifically to Cataclysm pretenders, for which you don't know what sacreds you'll have.

>>151263414
My bad, I thought you were asking for general advice.

>>151260274
production scales ( since you'll only have few provinces with good troops and you want to produce more), N9 bless or N9E4( which is the most universally decent across all sacreds), awake expander, aim to blood economy and gem summons are all good ideas.

>>151257872
Very good. No memes so far. HOWEVER

>Valanis

>>151264794
>scoregraphs on
>not memetastic

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I haven't played since like august of last year someone update me on new Dominions features and memes

>>151265728
you can now shift click to transfer 5 gems at once.
WOW.
there is also a new nation: YS. and Theredos too ( i don't even remember when theredos was added).

>>151265728
Forester Bob is pretty new.

>>151265728
Ys is a thing. Also we all use Summod all the time.

And lastly ctrl + s on the scripting screen to see what your saved shortcuts for 1-9 are.

>>151239503
That is beautiful.

>>151266390
We played an EA game on it with all nations, agartha won I believe.

>>151265958
>you can now shift click to transfer 5 gems at once.
>WOW.
That's p. wow

>there is also a new nation: YS.
Ok that's new to me. Therodos I remember. Did UW ever actually get good?

so, how do you deal will armies of tartarians? like 30 or 40.

>>151266027
What's Summod do? I don't trust you scrubs to pick balanced mods.

>>151267347
Now I took some of my time to actually read about changes summod brings in. And I can clearly state that it's awful. Beyond awful.
The main 'achievement' of this mod is the simplification of the game to the point that even the most clueless player can blindly find a simple but effective strategy to carry him through the game and he can do it almost effortlessly. For example you can mass produce OP, low-level, cheap items, give them to your cheaper leaders and they can perform good. And scrubs happy about it, they probably think: "Wow, NOW with that buffs I can take on Maerlande or Lambert without embracing myself", or something like that. But in reality the game becomes INCREDIBLY easier to play the more skilled you are. In the vanila you can perform bad due to huge blow from random events, cruitical mistake or from ill will of the neighbours, but with summod all you need to be OK is to SPEND GEMS. No matter what you are doing with them you'll be OK, since a lot of items and summons are dirt cheap now and OP.

Well, basically this mod is a huge mistake. I kinda respect the guys who created it, but they performed the task really poorly. It's not a balance mod, it's a mod to simlify the game, making it less challenging and less worthy of putting efforts into it. Mod which makes the game boring, or more boring.
By trying to cater to scrubs who doesn't have proper grasp on the game, experienced players like sum1won, Lamert S, Ohlman and others just created something mediocre which is not worth learning and adjusting your sense of game to.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

The only real problem with the balance in the game is MA Ermor being invulnerable in 1 on 1 fight. But the proper diplomacy may bring it down and in general I don't think that it's wrong to have 1 really OP nation if everyone is aware about the fact that it's OP so they can act accordingly.
Dominions 4 HAVE NO balance issues which can not be overcome by player's skill.

>>151267230
Mostly, not let the enemy get to the point where he gets 40 Tartarians.

Any non-summod games going on for a new(ish) player?

>>151267347
It's a balancing mod. The idea was to buff weak nations and nerf strong ones until everybody has a reasonable chance of winning. It's generally agreed that it's coming along nicely. It makes the game more fun because more stuff is viable.

>>151267485
And this is one of our hottest new memes. It reminds me of the Harold Bloom Harry Potter pasta on /lit.

>>151267230
Fight around them.

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>>151267485
>Dominions 4 HAVE NO balance issues which can not be overcome by player's skill.
I remember this pasta.

>>151267636
All /domg/ games are for newish players. This place is full of scrubs.

>>151267550
If this is in reference to either memegeddon bats or sauro, you should have something just as stupid by now that 40 kited Tarts is meh.

>>151267636
There's a newbie game on steam recruiting.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/259060/discussions/1/360671727324131978/

>>151267743
That's good to hear. Still a bit intimidating, but good to hear. I've been mainly playing disciple FFA games but have no experience solo in multiplayer.

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>tfw Lambert gets memed on

Wew lad!

Turn limit made the golem die the turn before he could kill the last passed out mage

>>151267903
>two shields
It deserved to die.

>>151267638
>Harold Bloom Harry potter pasta on /lit/

What's happening is part of a phenomenon I wrote about a couple of years ago when I was asked to comment on Rowling. I went to the Yale University bookstore and bought and read a copy of "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone." I suffered a great deal in the process. The writing was dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs." I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing.

But when I wrote that in a newspaper, I was denounced. I was told that children would now read only J.K. Rowling, and I was asked whether that wasn't, after all, better than reading nothing at all? If Rowling was what it took to make them pick up a book, wasn't that a good thing?

It is not. "Harry Potter" will not lead our children on to Kipling's "Just So Stories" or his "Jungle Book." It will not lead them to Thurber's "Thirteen Clocks" or Kenneth Grahame's "Wind in the Willows" or Lewis Carroll's "Alice."

Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.
1/2

>>151268196
Our society and our literature and our culture are being dumbed down, and the causes are very complex. I'm 73 years old. In a lifetime of teaching English, I've seen the study of literature debased. There's very little authentic study of the humanities remaining. My research assistant came to me two years ago saying she'd been in a seminar in which the teacher spent two hours saying that Walt Whitman was a racist. This isn't even good nonsense. It's insufferable.
2/2

Great copypasta

>>151267825
Thanks. I have no idea what MA nation I should play, though. I've only played one - Sceleria - and had a blast. Ermor is banned. Any suggestions?

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>>151268419
>Ermor is banned

>>151268419
Agartha for dank statues.
Ashdod is pretty fun.
>>151268542
It's a newbie game.

>>151268542
I can't help but love skeleton. I can't play Lemuria in MA, I don't think!

>>151268619
Agartha was a great thorn in my side in the Sceleria game. I was already looking into them, thanks for the suggestions!

>>151268419
What kind of nation are you looking for?

Did you like Sceleria? What did you like about it?

>>151268739
Expansion went smoothly due to blood9/death5 or whatever vestals. Transitioned nicely into lots of skeleton chaff and mage communions. I liked ferrying all of my chaff around and having my mages do the heavy lifting, even if my paths were limited. I liked being able to spend most of my money on infrastructure and mages rather than troop recruitment.

>>151268937
try nazca

>>151267485
I guess I won't play with /domg/ again. I always preferrred vanilla anyway outside of Dom 3 when it was Gem Gens: The Game

>>151269131
Would you feel better if we nerfed Machaka some more and added extra buffs to Ragha?

>>151269413
Leave everything as it is now. Strong nations have to be strong and draw ill will from all their neighbors. And weak nation have to gang up on others, using numbers to win.
That is balance.

>>151268937
MA C'tis relies heavily on mages too, though their chaff have to be summoned on the battlefield. Expansion with them isn't quite as easy, sadly, because they don't have good sacreds.

MA Asphodel is a freespawn nation somewhat similar to Ermor, but with less strong popkill. They have amazing expansion with W9 sacreds. I'm not sure how heavily they rely on mages.

MA Pangaea has their Pans freespawn maenads in turmoil. Unfortunately they're not great troops and Pan's mages are more suited to buffing than to blasting so you need to get a decent number of their non-freespawn troops as well. Like Asphodel, Pan has amazing expansion.

>>151269131
Don't listen to them, we still play plenty of games without summod.

>>151268196
>>151268305
This may be copypasta but that doesn't make it wrong.

>>151269676
This. Balance in Dominions is achieved via the meta. I'm not opposed to balance mods in principle but the most popular ones rarely seem all that balanced compared to the vanilla game.

>>151269676
Ah, I was referring to Illwinter patches. Besides, strong nations are rarely ganged up on, or, sew the win rate of MA Ermor and Bats.

Not that summod affects bats that much at any rate.

>>151270150
Ermor is a special case because you earn basically nothing for beating them. The smartest thing there is always to count on your neighbors fighting them. Which leads to no one fighting them.

>>151270067
Man getting a Forest of Avalon in all forest forts with Magic 2+ and knights being awarded titles after certain amount of experience is fucking beautiful though.

A person who finds such thematic and lore-friendly ways to balance a game cannot be a bad person.

>>151270517
>you earn basically nothing for beating them
Nice meme, but I have tired from it.
To remove one of the most inbalanced rivals and gain all the gems from his lands is just a huge gain and contribution to your own victory.

>>151269679
Thank you very much for the detailed description. I'll try these out in single player and decide which I like the feel of most.

>>151270729
False.
No gold provinces everywhere, and if the fort up a lot you wont even get gems for those provinces for a real lot of turns, and they won't even be more gems than a regular nation would give (and regular nations give gold aswell).

B-but muh 15 death gems!
When you manage to get his cap, if you actually do it, you will have lost a lot more resources than you are getting.

So anyone could just attack you then and get their free 15 gems cap from a weakened nation.


The best choice is always to let your neighbours fight Ermor, not yourself (same for Lemuria).

>>151270729
Meanwhile the guys who fought other people get gems AND gold. Then once you're done removing the biggest threat in the game for them they'll eat you too (if they don't just backstab you while you're trying to remove ermor)

We've seen this happen game after game. Not once has trying to remove ermor turned out well for someone.

>>151270729
Then you go remove them. I'll be busy winning the game, and if you do a good job in fighting them, I'll vulture the capital from you.
I'll have twice your resources from not fighting Ermor, so it isn't like you can stop me.

>>151261627
>Ease of empowerment
That's the trick to it. Blood on an awake pretender guarantees that you'll have access to it AND that you can empower your randomized mages to help out. This removes a ton of uncertainty.

>>151271612
>Not once has trying to remove ermor turned out well for someone.
GelatinousCube

Most of the "problems" with removing Ermor have to do with people being shitty, greedy bastards. Frankly, Ermor deserves to win any game that people can't manage to get their fucking act together and remove him from.

>>151271710
Wouldn't the mages from a single blood site outproduce even a B9 pretender? Are blood sites just really rare, or am I missing something?

Breaking into blood via pretender always takes forever.

>>151271769
Could you give me a summary of what happened in that game?

Who attacked Ermor, how fast did they kill him, who won the game, etc?

>>151271701
If you are not fighting and collecting resources it doesn't mean that you are becoming stronger, but that you are stagnating. And gold is overrated. And gems are a lot more important, especially death ones.
And moreover I won't fight Ermor 1 on 1, I am not stupid enough for that, but in the end I'll capture his cap, and wreck petty cowards like you.

>>151271769
Marignon didn't win that game, despite tearing Ermor apart quickly. Cause no gold gains (and also a shit tier nation).

Trying to fight Ermor means you lose . . . period. Just find other idiots to fight them, or enjoy not being next to them.

>>151272158
>If you are not fighting and collecting resources it doesn't mean that you are becoming stronger
It means you're site searching, researching, and forging.

>>151272158
I love how you assume I'm stagnating. Last game I was in with an Ermor, all his other neighbors floundered against him, while I bullied around for extra provinces before winning with blood eco.
The only real threat was the dude who spawned furthest from Ermor - who also never really fought him.

>>151271965
>Could you give me a summary of what happened in that game?
From someone else who was in that game, Ermor got rushed by Marignon who was using E9 knights. Marignon had a very good expansion since most of his neighbours were new players and his pretender was an E9 cyclops. Although, the Ermor player wasn't using the tribless build and he stated that he messed up his fights with Marignon.

>>151272167
Marignon was in a good position that game, with the throne of knowledge and more stuff than everyone else, but he had to go AI suddenly.

>>151272158
>And gold is overrated. And gems are a lot more important, especially death ones.
You're missing the point. Fighting someone who isn't Ermor gets you massive amounts of gold and almost as many gems.

Fighting Ermor gets you 10 more gems per turn (difference in cap-site income). Fighting anyone else will likely get you 1k gold per turn, and possibly more.

Even lategame gems are not that valuable.

>>151272487
How did the war with Ermor improve his position?

To me it sounds like he was just in a strong enough position that even after suffering through a war with Ermor he was still ahead of everyone else.

>>151271612
>>151271769
I think NewYearNails Nazca managed to defeat Ermor and win, but Ermor was probably either a bad or new player, not sure.

>>151273485
Didn't NYN Nazca only end up fighting ermor at the very end of the game?

That completely fits with what we've been saying - it's in your best interests to let other people deal with ermor for as long as possible.

>>151273295
It's hard to say since he was in a good position anyway and didn't have as hard a fight as he probably should have, but since it was reasonably early on I believe he got some gold income and gem income from it. Oh, and some free angels from events.

>>151273485
There were multiple players fighting him at various points in time, Nazca only beat him after dumping multiple huge supaya stacks on him. He didn't have F9 on them for some reason, but still.

>>151273745
Nah, it was a very long fight that started on like turn 30 or so
Nazca here, we shared borders since turn 10 and no one fought Ermor before i did. Period.

>>151273745
As NYN Ermor, Nazca honestly wouldn't have won if Jotunheim didn't randomly go AI while in the strongest position. Apparently demons > supaya.
The fight between me and Nazca was the last major important war, even though it shouldn't have been.
(It wasn't a 1v1 either)

>>151274169
Nazca is Nazca tho

>>151274245
That's unfair, it was a 1v1.
You attacked Ctis and i attacked you, then you moved back from Ctis and 1v1'd me.

Do you even remember it at all?

>>151274169
Both Ctis and Shinu fought me before you did. They were just horrible at it.

>>151274319
Ues, I do. Ctis had multiple water bottle assassins in my lands, and Shinu forced me to spend a turn responding to his shit. And I was attacked before I could start a single war that game.
Other than the assassins, Ctis and Shinu didn't amount to much though.

>>151274536
>>151274358
Anyway you probably agree that that one is the game where the guy defeating Ermor got the most advantage, and I only won becase the other big guy was probably Rejakor and went AI.

So Ermor is cancerous as fuck.

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Live!

>>151277701
Buzz off Jomon

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>>151277787

>>151277701
>>151277897
Touhous are for spanking.

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>>151277897

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>>151271965
>Are blood sites just really rare?
3/15 in a test game while your hedge mages seems to have a 1/4 chance of getting B1.

I'm not sure what to make of that.

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>>151278065
>>151278457
No bully!

>>151278831
Where do a skeleton even stock smoke? How do a skeleton even breathe?

How do a skeleton even move?

Well, I can only wonder if Xibalba has within him what it takes to stop the game from ending in the next couple turns or so.
Will you actually attack something meaningful?

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>>151278854
TOO LATE

>take over as a replacement for another player
>awful pretender build
>economy in shambles
>almost no site searching done

How do people even manage to be this bad?

>>151278938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4HE4Ucsg1I

>>151279974
I join games and perform bewilderingly poorly on purpose prior to asking for a sub

>>151280175
same

>>151280042
That looks pretty good.

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>>151279974
pls no bully

>>151280337
Asuka would be good at Dominions

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>>151280376
She'd also be good on my D.

>>151280337
I'm not bullying, I'm honestly confused about what this guy was even doing before I stepped in.

I mean he has 30+ unrest in more than half of his provinces. How do you even manage that with Order 3 and no blood hunting?

>>151280376
>>151280516
She'd flip her shit and fall apart at the first meme rush.

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>>151280376
She'd also look good when broken and crying.

>>151280618
As she should

Shit anime tbqh famalam.

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>this slaps your pretenders ass
WHAT DO /VG/?

>>151280672
That art somehow reminds of a /r9k/ screencap in which some guy had drawn a 12 yo sex slave catgirl and his mother finding it.
Someone pls post it.

>>151281552
Iron bane

>>151281552

Bone grinding x 5 to clear all the squish humies.

>>151281552
I see many options :
[] Panic.
[] Panic hard.
[] Panic harder.
[] Panic hardest.
[] Panic intensifies.
[] Panic extreme.
[] Ragequit the game.

>>151281552
Wind of Death.

>>151281552
A simple t-strike spam will fix all your problems.

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>>151281552
Nice MR, faggot.

>>151189726
Joining in as Pangaea senpai

>>151266948
>Did UW ever actually get good?
That depends. Do you include summod?

In vanilla, EA Atlantis, LA Atlantis, MA R'lyeh with no other sea powers, and MA Pelagia with other sea powers are all good nations. In summod, you can add Thed and EA R'lyeh to the list.

I haven't tried MA Atlantis (they look bad), EA Pelagia (which might be good as a sort of coastal mage nation), or Ys. Both Oceanias are awful, though MA at least has some dope heavy infantry to kill people with until they deploy literally anything that kills heavy infantry because your mage support is overpriced garbage.

>>151281552
3 or 4x earthquake.dice rolls will punch throug high protection.
if you do it right with some help you can also recover the EQ spammers.

>>151286162
>MA Atlantis (they look bad)
Not really that bad since the UW patch. Their big mages are great and you get communion-able astral access and amazing researchers on coasts. Troops are kinda meh, especially when compared to EA and LA, but you can expand easily with lobsters and Reef Warriors are okay lineholders (not really recruitable on coasts anymore, though).

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>>151189726
In as frogbats.

>>151289982
Reminder that the only game MA Xibalba ever won was by spamming bats.

>>151289982
Again, Eldritch?

>>151290448
I think summod makes frogs viable. I do well with them in blitzes.

>>151290805
Not him.

China, is there a chance we could talk in the steamchat?

>>151292904
He's in some resort or national park or something, so I don't think he can do it.

>>151279974
I feel your pain. Subbed in turn 43 or so, only had 400 research, no sites searched effectively, a W9D9 bless, no growth scales on a blood nation, and over half my army was summoned Wolves. Only saving Grace was that I was elves, and the guy I subbed for got to eat a staler.

>>151295559
Hey, I told you what you were getting into. And the reason I wanted out was because I'd fucked up so bad.

>>151296456
>quitting because you fucked up instead of playing it out to the bitter end
Shameful.

Can I have a few hours postpone? Am shattered after a day of traveling.

>>151279974
>sub someone mid-lategame
>he has staled for 8 turns
>he had hundred of crappy troops on repeat recruit, NO MAGE ON REPEAT RECRUITMENT.
>H1 leadership 0 on repeat recruitment, i have 12 of them and they are the only commander in a fort with 300 infantries.
>research set on conjuration, approaching 8 despite low RP/turn
>no construction, no boosters, can't summon shit, can't cast big spells.
>4 provinces sitesearched, only one of them in more than 3 paths
>pretender was a research-rusher, but didn't attack anyone after he hit his research target
>enemy player surrounds you and is close to winning, rolling SCs on half of my provinces.

that was so hopeless to play out.

>>151296972

Why don't you go ahead and stale then, Lambert, I'm sure nothing bad will happen to your elves.

Ragha vs Atlantis matchup
consider no major blesses for any sides

what would be the best way to deal with atlantis awesome toolkit?

>>151290805
While I play both frogs and EYE, this is not me. I'll see about joining when I get back from work and see what nations are left, but I've got a lot of games already, and I'll be moving soon, which may limit my ability to play turns.

>>151300218
>No major bless
>Ragha and Atlantis

What. Those nations demand a W9 bless, at least. If Atlantis can stave off the Zaheydans, have some forgiving fathers forge a crystal matrix and slave themselves to an Angakok to cast Stygian Rains if they're focusing on Turans, or Darkness, if they're using Cealites.

Of course, I'm shit, so take this with a grain of salt.

>>151300878
Atlantis can do fine without a bless. They're pretty versatile.

But yeah Ragha really wants a bless for their griffins of doom. Those things are unstoppable with a good bless.

LA Atlantis fucking owns. Assartuts rape face even with no bless at all.

>>151300878
>>151301063
>>151301239
long story short: atlantis wins
is that right?

>>151301807
Depends on what magic they have available. If it's midgame and Atlantis has hit their research goals they'll probably win, but I'm pretty sure Ragha can beat them early on even unblessed.

>>151301807
Depends a ton on the players but yeah that'd be my bet if Atlantis is competent.

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>Join every game I can
>Do nothing but sit in starting fort and recruit units
>Shit up like 80% of /domg/ games without anyone ever noticing
>This has been going on for half a year now

Get Cucked Domnerds

>>151302725
>all that time spent sending empty turns just for "shitposting"

Wew

>>151302725
If people don't even notice you, you're not actually shitting up anything.

You need to step up your game, son.

>>151303348
I'm taking all the good nations like ma ctis and ermor so fags like you cant play them lmao

>>151302725
And this is why if you're actually good, you should be able to maintain at least a 50% win rate on domg games.

>>151303694
Also mean im not gonna have to play against them, which is pretty good.

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Wake up thread.

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>>151302725

>not having multiple extra copies of dominions on another steam account from one of the many sales
>not joining games as several nations, including nations like ea bats and ma ermor to spare yourself and everyone the wasted time and fun

step it up nigga, you'll cowards don't even realize you've been playing 16 person games with 2-3 other actual human beans

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Playing as EA BATS, have a question regarding blood hunting:

Do I want to blood hunt my capital?

When I start blood hunting with my B1 mages, do I want multiple per province I am hunting? Or just one per province? If more than 1, how many?

>>151309894
>using blood magic
We'll talk on the battlefield, scum.

>>151309967
No

>>151310182
Yes we will. Anyone who use blood magic is my enemy.

>>151310283
But i only play single player :(

Someone please help.

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>>151310283

>>151310636
I will hack you and replace the AI.

>>151309894
>Do I want to blood hunt my capital?
No. You generally don't want to blood hunt in high-income provinces, because income calculation goes before unrest reduction, so it costs you more gold than the stats would suggest. Blood hunting is best in provinces between 5000 and 8000 population. Obviously, once you fully transition into a blood economy this matters less, but gold is still nice.

>When I start blood hunting with my B1 mages, do I want multiple per province I am hunting? Or just one per province? If more than 1, how many?
You generally want to spread them out for a couple of reasons. It reduces unrest per province and makes it easier to deal with, it reduces the strain on population and makes it less likely you'll outpace your growth, and it maximizes slave income since having multiple blood hunters per province gives diminishing returns. However, putting multiple in the same province does have advantages, because it makes it a bit easier to ferry slaves from your hunters to your forts, and it makes patrolling easier since you'll have to patrol less provinces (though you'll have to patrol them with more troops).

Again, when you switch to a full blood economy this becomes less important and you can go ahead and put multiple hunters in every single province, since the only thing that really matters at that point is that you have an income of hundreds of slaves per turn. Though even in that case I prefer to keep the maximum per province at 3 or 4.

>>151311159
Thanks!

live.

>>151279974
was this as LA Ulm?

>>151317581
Nope.

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>>151279974
>Leading in various graphs, fuckton of research, pretty deep in blood and still have the most gold, forts and provinces of anyone in the game
>Beat primary enemy in huge all-in fight despite being outnumbered 3:1 without losing all too much
>Get cancer
>Guy who subs in is a total retard who can't into LA Ulm
>He gets beaten by LA Man despite having a high-air pretender that can cast thunder ward and fog warriors

Remember the battle of Helmshire, where even the blood raining from the skies was not enough to douse the raging inferno burning inside the heart of each and every Ulmish man, woman and child.

t. Pan

Reminder to join in for some zesty memes:
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=MemeFastStaleHard

Map is temporary until I know how many players we get, ideally above 8.

>>151319683
>tfw you want to join but you're already in 8 games

I need Dominions rehab or something.

>>151319789
Gotta pace your games anon, I'm in 7 but only 2 are lategame, 2 are mid, 3 early. One late game takes as long per turn as all the mid and early put together.
However since I will have finished my late games by the time the others get that long, it won't be an issue. That and I'll last till the late game in like 2 of those at best, so not an issue.

>>151319789
>13 and want to play more
I'm actually quite scrubbish despite all my games played. My wins come from being the last person semi-competent alive (as in, not-ai). I think that's my problem, I want to maximize my chances of winning a game by stamina.
I should play more Dom 4 mods games, those people don't stale or ai, but they're generally pretty bad.

>>151319789
Cataclysm is as meme as it gets, especially with those settings. Hardly a serious game.

You'll probably get memerushed with memebless by some memester who memexpanded and found amazing memecred units memesites on the first turn.

Are sumod soul contracts werth if you can into blood early?

slapping a bunch on idle researchers seems bretty gud.

So some filthy EA atlantanians took some land on my fucking island. I don't want to declare war because I have no way to fight underwater, but I want the land!

How do I make it go Indy as EA Xibalba?

>>151320683
Just keep playing. Improvement happens without you realising it, and eventually you'll get shrekt so hard and so often that you'll find yourself making good decisions based solely on what you have realised doesn't work, or recycling strategies that have been successful against you.

You'll also be able to take super fast turns because you're eyeballing everything. It's the best way to play. Don't analyse situations, just refer to prior experience.

>>151321369
A couple of nations can make extremely good use of them, but you really need to build your pretender around taking advantage of them.

>>151321446
Are you playing against the AI? Just up your province defense on coastal regions to like 50-60 and you'll basically autowin.

Alternatively, stop playing SP because it is literally garbage. Jump into the MP scene, friendo.

>>151321652
Yes, but how do I make them go indy?

>>151321749
Horror attacks.

>>151322438
Someone who can speak weeb, translate please.

>>151322438
>Her name
>Skelly-sama, burden of time is a great spell to cast now right?!

>>151321369
Don't slap them on researchers, those are valuable.

Slap them on something which you think has a chance of beating a horror so they last longer, or throw them on something completely worthless like a scout for cheapness.

Well, looks like Ermor is out of the game now.

Ermor, Kailasa, Lanka, Niefelheim, T'ien Chi. The first 5 are down.

>>151327791
I have a feeling I'll follow them soon. Hoping to get imprisoned for eternity by whoever becomes the top dawg.

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*waiting for meme game intensifies*

>>151327791
Who are the superpowers right now?

>>151333203
I don't have the full maps at the moment, but if I had to say . .

Sauro is undeniably the biggest. Arco, Caelum, TNN, Machaka, and Abysia are all decently powerful too.

>>151334394
Pan should get Ermor's cap as he's the one on top of it, I guess that counts for something as far as being powerful goes.

>>151334862
Pan is up there too, yeah.

The real interesting fact is the research bar though, which shows only Sauro, Marverni, Caelum, and Machaka are really bothering with it at all.

>>151334862
If you are Arco you will get 6-8 more provinces from me though.

While pan will get maybe 4 total, including my capital.

>>151335304
>Arco gets provinces
Why would Pan allow that?

>>151335403
Because arco also invaded me and pan is in no position to take most of those provinces.

>>151335304
I'm Maverni. Sorry I couldn't come sooner, at least I'm gonna try to fight off Pan the best I can, which might not be much considering the tools he has compared to mine.

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ayyyyy I got axed

Ulm's army is just waiting for that t-strikes + wrathful skies combo though.

>>151336614
Help your elf brethern against Sauro

>>151336614
You plan on raping those maidens ?

>>151336948
Dude, I literally gave you Niefel's cap because that faggot Ulm attacked me. What else do you want? It's not like I have 1000 units on my border or anything.

>>151337085
My sacreds don't have reinvigoration for that much snu-snu, so probably not.

>>151239503
They're pretty dead to be honest.

>>151341617

Did you find the map on desura forums?

desu I don't want to wade through the forums do dl every map I want.

It'd be sick to get a torrent of all the decent maps going.

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Atlantis 2h file received
Man 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Unexpected Nation 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Pangaea 2h file received
>T'ien Ch'i Waiting for 2h file
Ulm 2h file received
Xibalba 2h file received
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>151257872
This game is by noobs for noobs. I never made a game before but nobody else was answering the request.
Yes I'm trying plz no bully

Also if you guys want to start before we get max players let me know.

>>151343757
What did you expect? You invoked meme magic with the game name.

I just bought a bunch of prescription antibiotics at a shady Canadian pharmacy. Imma never have to sit through another waiting room again.

>>151344285

I'd like to start.

who here in SparklyThrones/noobsrus?

I'm having a fucking panic attack trying to get two turns in a day. somethings wrong with me. I've gone too long without having any responsibilities.

Oh hey anyone know if you can see settings / map from the lamaserver info? And how ?

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>>151345585
Time to take a dive, anon.

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LIVE

Good evening Gents. I felt like sharing the most recent battle reports from the ongoing brawl beneath the sea.

In the Abyss, 2 Aboleths, the entirety of their slave cohort, and 3 giboleths, were devoured for the meager losses of a dozen deep ones.

In the Laksha Deep, Nearly 6 dozen brave warriors, half of which were living pillars, sold their lives dearly and slew nearly 300 of the cowardly Mermen.

Not even a dozen men died in Coral Home, but 3 mages and their slaves were roasted over a magma vent for a celebratory lunch.

The Gulf of Porto was briefly visited by over a hundred slaves and their aboleth overlords, before being torn to shreds without losses.

We're considering exporting Calamari and Fishsticks to the Drylanders.

>>151349286
So let me get this straight: Ryleh attacked you because you spread your scales and he didn't like that you had death scales, but it turned out that the death scales came from Lanka, and now he's losing?

>>151349716
Essentially, yeah. It's hard to collect tears underwater, but given that Aboleths have four eyes, that makes it somewhat easier to gather the liquid ambrosia needed for the Basalt Monarchy's semi-annual banquet.

>>151344285
People are joining, who only need 2 more players so wait.

>>151349286
Yes, yes. I guess I'll stop disrespecting and actually send a mage core to clean up.

I've seen your research graph. And I've seen the other graphs too. This is for the best though - killing the Pillars would be such a waste.

>>151349286
Oi mate, I've got no reason to not believe you, but I'd enjoy the ride better with some pics of said reports. And some fish n' chips too.

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>>151350146
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure.

>>151350246
You got it, friendo.

>>151350246
Nah, he won those battles handily cause I tried to grab 5 provinces off him at once by splitting my army.
He either called me on it, or got lucky, and I lost some 210 units, including 6 Aboleths, for only minor injuries inflicted back.
A lot of it is I need to wrap my head around how shit Lobo Guard are still, the other half is not respecting the PD.
But considering that the end result was me taking 2 more provinces - while losing none. And that the losses I suffered were pretty minor - I call it a minor setback at most.

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>>151350654
Fuck's sake, apologies.

>>151350593
6 Mages is a pretty significant loss. I thought those giboleths would be wrecking me, but I severely overestimated the threat you posed. I didn't realize I could simply drown you in Deep Ones.

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>>151350474
>>151350593
>>151350654
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>>151351032
Thanks guys, it's much better with some neat pics. Glad to know there's much rivalry and battles going on UW too.

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>>151351032
And that's it for the battle reports.

>>151351212
It shouldn't have even happened. R'Lyeh made a really, really, really stupid assumption, somehow got Pelagia in on it, and now the seas run red.

>>151351898
Well, from what I hear the earth does too. At least the meme settings aren't wasted on this game.

>>151350821
Do you really consider the loss of 6 mages significant? Well, it was actually 7 at any rate, which is a shame, cause otherwise that would be 1/3 of what I can make per turn.
You are right about the mindblasters though, they paralyze good, but lack killing power vs high HP stuff, and Lobo can't fight for shit.

Thankfully, with magic, anything is possible. And I've heard Lobo Guards are much better with Will of the Fates.

>Notices AC is down

Well then. Impress me. You won't get another chance bat-chan.

>>151356015
>Flatus comes down to Lemuria and Bats
> Vanheim was right

>>151356126
I don't catch the reference.

And really, the only reason it's down to me and bats is because we're the only two people autistic enough to play this to the end.

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>>151354486
Meanwhile, in Africa

>>151358176
See, this is why I love Archaea. It's so much better than the other meme maps of Oeridia and Flatus, where all the fuckers just stale and AI. On Archaea, the wars start early, they start fast, and they go hard.

In Archaea, you can expect awesomeness by at least the end of year 1, usually awesomeness all across the globe.

Also, be careful there Berytos, Machaka is kicking your ass in research.

>>151358431
>Also, be careful there Berytos, Machaka is kicking your ass in research.
I realized that. I got excited about the idea of blood magic and researched heavily there while Machaka went straight for skelespam and and evocations, which was a much more practical plan. However things are looking up now. What held up my research most was probably using my mages to ferry around my troops. Now that my armies are consolidating that shouldn't be as big a problem.

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>>151359119
The Lion clan laugh at your tomfoolery.

Anyone experienced with Lemuria willing to share their research/mage summoning strategy?

Awake pretender seems pretty obvious and after using it to research for about 10 turns and then going off site searching while using your starting mage to summon Revenants gave made Enchantment-5 by turn 18 (that's with Summod, ie. reduced early game gem income), but then you have a bunch of Revenants that do nothing, as opposed to your immortal mages or at least 15 gem D1S1[S1D1] that can do something?. Would it perhaps be better to go for Evocation and Shadow Blast as first target after Revenants (it's not like you're lacking in chaff)? And what about mages? Should you even attempt to research efficiently when you could instead start getting immortal mages earlier?

>>151359974
In vanilla, I've always seen Lemuria played as a thug nation.

In summod, the ghosts have MR-negates hard weapons, which makes them INSANELY good at expansion (like, blind expand into heavy cav and crossbows good) and you start with a D2 acolyte. While having an imprisoned/dormant god would delay your ability to get higher level mages and research, it's not essential to getting any research at all the way it is in vanilla.

I suspect that an awake high-dom expander that also has some non-native paths is best, since spreading your dom and getting more provinces early is now more important for your D gem income.

>>151360802
'Every nation is a thug nation'
-sum1won

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>>151363272
Too edgy.