/domg/ - Dominions General

1st for broken AI

Second for sweet, sweet, salty goodness

Now I took some of my time to actually read about changes summod brings in. And I can clearly state that it's awful. Beyond awful.
The main 'achievement' of this mod is the simplification of the game to the point that even the most clueless player can blindly find a simple but effective strategy to carry him through the game and he can do it almost effortlessly. For example you can mass produce OP, low-level, cheap items, give them to your cheaper leaders and they can perform good. And scrubs happy about it, they probably think: "Wow, NOW with that buffs I can take on Maerlande or Lambert without embracing myself", or something like that. But in reality the game becomes INCREDIBLY easier to play the more skilled you are. In the vanila you can perform bad due to huge blow from random events, cruitical mistake or from ill will of the neighbours, but with summod all you need to be OK is to SPEND GEMS. No matter what you are doing with them you'll be OK, since a lot of items and summons are dirt cheap now and OP.

Well, basically this mod is a huge mistake. I kinda respect the guys who created it, but they performed the task really poorly. It's not a balance mod, it's a mod to simlify the game, making it less challenging and less worthy of putting efforts into it. Mod which makes the game boring, or more boring.
By trying to cater to scrubs who doesn't have proper grasp on the game, experienced players like sum1won, Lamert S, Ohlman and others just created something mediocre which is not worth learning and adjusting your sense of game to.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

The only real problem with the balance in the game is MA Ermor being invulnerable in 1 on 1 fight. But the proper diplomacy may bring it down and in general I don't think that it's wrong to have 1 really OP nation if everyone is aware about the fact that it's OP so they can act accordingly.
Dominions 4 HAVE NO balance issues which can not be overcome by player's skill.

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Der_Gotterdammerung is getting pretty exciting.

>>150909176
t. Ermor

>>150909457
Its the most exciting memegame atm. Flatus is can bats stop Lemuria, and Memegeddon is can anyone stop bats.

I'm betting the answer for both is: No.

>>150909176
Is it time for this meme again already? It was a shitty meme the first time, and it's still shitty.

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<yfw no one plays with summod outside this SHITSTAIN community

What's the point of skelly spam?

They don't do shit against non-retard troops. Are they just fatigue bait?

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>>150912373
t. Butthurt Russian Autist

>>150912857
They're tarpits that keep the enemy in place forever.

>>150912857
Skellyspam effectively removes the need for any sort of line holders against simple army compositions (PD). This way, four D2+ mages alone may take a province that would have otherwise required thirty men to conquer.

>>150912373
I'm curious now, what distinguishes each of the different Dominions communities on the internet?

We have summod and autism, eetochan has even more autism, and I don't know anything about the others.

>>150912857
>enemy sieges fort
>spam skelet
>enemy can not get past gatehouse

))))

>>150912857
first of all they have very decent stats and will slowly damage even decent troops.

but the main thing they do is gifting any of your other casters free turns for his evocations, while your enemy's caster waste evocation on worthless squares of skeletons...and they fatigue the enemy troops.

eventually even skeletons will kill anything that has 40 fatigue.

>>150913520
Goon meta is retardedly aggressive, Desura adores thugs more than anything else in the world

Dom4mods is a melting pot of all of these.

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>>150914534
Which are we?

>pic unrelated

>>150913410
>This way, four D2+ mages alone may take a province that would have otherwise required thirty men to conquer.

a cast is like 40 fatigue so you can get 3 casts at most that's like 10 skellies so you get 40 skellies total im not sure you can take over PD 20 with that

>>150915203
Yoy will easily get 1 more cast before the first skeletons are dead, and that's with D2 mages.

>>150912857
The point is to wear down the enemy army with troops which don't cost anything.

They're good enough to fight weaker infantry on about equal standing, and they'll wear more elite troops down through fatigue and lucky hits.

Later on you can use darkness, which effectively gives them +6 attack and defense, to make them really strong against everything.

>>150915203
Skeletons are about on par with standard human troops (less hp and worse armor, but no morale so they fight to the death). If you don't have priests, an equal number of skeletons is scarier than most PD types.

Your numbers are off too. Each cast is 6 skeletons, so 18 per mage for a total of 72 from 4 D2 mages. That's more troops than 20PD has, and as I said above they generally win against equal numbers of living troops.

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I still don't understand why your silly team attacked us, but here, have a battle report.

>>150915857
Lower HP is also compensated for by pierce resistance since many of the most common indie types tend to have piercing damage type weapons

>>150915857
I will note, however, that due to skeletal pierce resist, archers love to take aim at the casters. Only the casters. I cannot tell you how many skelly spam attacks I've seen fail due to the mage getting shot, then running away like a little bitch.

>>150916507
>I will note, however, that due to skeletal pierce resist, archers love to take aim at the casters. Only the casters. I cannot tell you how many skelly spam attacks I've seen fail due to the mage getting shot, then running away like a little bitch.

This is wrong. Archers do not prioritize based on resistance at all ever. A unit can be completely immune to archers and draw fire forever. The reason that archers target mages is that the mages are on the battlefield first. If you have a handful of infantry in front of your mages, then even if they all die, the archers will likely swap to the skeletons rather than the mages next.

Uh, guys, it looks like Helheim and Sauro are working together, I saw them do some kind of province trade earlier. Given how huge Sauro is and how retarded Dragur are for Helheim, shouldn't we be more worried about them than batsmans or squids?

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Was Pan right?

How often does a team game run and is it a good way to learn the game or will people get mad at you?

>>150916993
Soooooooooooon

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This is the future you chose.

This and staling Niefelheim.

Alright Sceleria you got a few hours before I forcehost, it's turn one muthafucka DO YOUR TURN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>150917721
He's probably just timezoned. Relax, motherfucker

>>150917471
what kind of bless does Vanheim have?

>>150918107
F9W9N9.

>>150917471
I am honestly really confused why he went after Vanhere first of all things. And without help. Like, who willingly gets into a 1v1 fight with Vanheim early game.

Though, on these settings, Pan might have been able to emerge victorious with craptons of Revelers.

>>150918352
If Pan isn't the biggest nation on land, he done FUCKED UP something fierce

>>150917784

>He's probably just timezoned.

It's been like 30ish hours, so I don't think so.

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>>150918454
Pan is literally near Ulm though. I dunno what the fuck he's doing. He could've dumped scales and gone for a goddamn tribless with 300% everything. And dom10.

>>150917317
Disciple games are less common than normal games, but they still start occasionally. I believe there's one recruiting or recently start over at dom3mods.

>is it a good way to learn the game or will people get mad at you
Generally people join up with people they know rather than getting assigned a random team, so you'd probably need to find a player who's willing to teach you first.

If you've found an experienced player to help you learn, I don't think there's much of an advantage of disciple games over FFA.

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>>150916103
Which UI mod is that?

I'm not huge on the purple colour-scheme but the basic Dominions 4 looks is a bit drab for my liking. Is it possible to get the Dominions 3 look in Dominions 4? I liked the colours on that one.

>>150918454
Pan has literally the single worst start zone on the whole goddamn map. Least initial expansion room, and a retarded number of neighbors. They're basically in A-H's spot on the Diplomacy board, which is an absolute piece of shit.

Literally the only boon is that they are still Pan, and 1v1 can crush any of their neighbors with little effort excepting maybe Ulm.

>>150919265
>pick a player
>destroy them with both infinite revellers AND duo bless centaur due to meme settings
>expand over what would be theirs

It's not science rockets

>>150919234
Interface mods are in the pastebin, including classic Dom3 red look and recolors. If you don't find your favorite color, just ask me to make a recolor for you.

>>150919265
>there exist AH players that don't kill and subsequently become Russia

>>150919389
>the pastebin
Shit, I've never actually looked at that before. Thanks fampire.

are the monkey nation naken people summons any good?

They seem really average for a high lvl summons. no armor and kick attacks.

>>150919389
Are the Dom3 UIs compatible with Dominions 4?

>>150920490
Should be, I think there's a couple of changes (for example, looking at the files at a glance, guihead.tga no longer exists) but if it doesn't work as intended straight from the bat, you should be able to rename the files to get them to appear in the desired places

>>150919346
Sadly, its a domg game, which means whoever you go in on might cry for help and then have it answered.

Fighting 2v1, which is supremely likely given you're PAN on these settings, isn't fun.

>>150921023
Pan is fighting 2v1,but they are on the team with 2 players.

>>150922064
Arco and Pan are fighting Ermor and who else? I know Ulm was fighting Vanheim, and Bery was having trouble with Machaka. So I'd guess like Hinnom or something?

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>>150922697
>No one's fighting the bats
No wonder they've supposedly spread.

>>150924165
I was going to, then Pan decided to be bitches.

Yes I'm mad.

>>150924165
I liked the idea of expanding west but now I'm stuck in what might be a fight to the death with Machaka. He doesn't communicate so I don't know what his thinking is beyond 'invade me' and 'MOAR ELEFANTS!'

Can't take the double-teamage memage

>>150912373
It's being used in multiple dom4mods games, at least one steam game, and in at least one other small community.

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>NO TURNS

>>150907418
If you look really closely at her eyes they look kind of fucked up. All the detail that seems fine from a distance looks deranged up close.

>>150926274
>tfw waking up and there are no new turns

Truly the worst feeling.

>>150927602
Game: AllMAGamesAreMemeGames
Turn number 8
Next turn due: 16:33 GMT on Sunday August 7th

Abysia Waiting for 2h file
Agartha 2h file received
Asphodel 2h file received
Shinuyama 2h file received
Bandar Log 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Ermor 2h file received
Machaka 2h file received
Man 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Vanarus 2h file received
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received
Vanheim 2h file received
Ys 2h file received

So are the monkeys staling too now?

>>150929116
God damn it Abysia, I just came back from work and all I could think of all day was the result of a really crazy attack I've done last turn. Move your hot ass and do your turn already.

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>>150929920
Suspicious Agarthan.jpg

>Notice gmail tab has (1)
>Hopes go up
>Thank you for your Community Market purchase

REE WHERE ARE MY TURNS

>>150931506
>message on the phone
>Oh boy maybe its from gmail about turns
>Hey, wanna go for a drink?

I want to, but i wanted to do turns first ;_;

>tfw you're neighbours with someone you can't trust, but you're going to pretend you're best friends because you ain't got no time for paranoia

>>150931657
Just do them when you come back home blackout drunk.

>>150931975
but thats how Im losing most of my games

>>150931941
I don't trust you either, friend.

>>150932420
I know.

Abysia please have some structure to your expansion, I can never predict what province you're about to take.

Also Ys, I'm taking 123 this turn, I'm sure that won't be a problem, right?

>>150936086

Sorry there were some dark vines on the way. I am mostly done with expansion tho, can I have 63 and 69 and be done with it?

>>150936203

Yo Abysia.

We seem to have a clear natural border in any case, so I'm agreeable to your suggestion.

>>150936203
Sure go ahead, I'll steer clear of them so we avoid losing more shit for no reason.

Gotta say though, your territory has a pretty weird shape from what I see.

>>150936402

Yes, I sent you a pm agreeing to that.

>>150935560

what is that demon looking thing?

>>150936457

Nah its ok in looks once I take 63 and 69, not too long or too spread. Forests annoy me due to movement but what can I do...

>>150936481

One of the old Archdevil sprites, Dom3 era, if I remember right.

I am not at home and won't be for a while. I have my laptop though but not the nation mod "Library of the sea".

Does anyone have a download link, i need 12 extra hours if I can't find it very soon.

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>First year not even over yet

>>150936718
Don't the links in the Steam discussion work anymore?

>>150936965
Yo Agartha, got an updated map?

>>150937106
I forgot about that, I got them from this thread last time.

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Mictlan is doing fine, they seem to have more provinces than the bats.

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>>150937141
>No fancy fonts on this computer

RIP

>>150937558

Underwater elves are in the other sea. Yellow is C'tis.

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>>150937558
Whoops, I should have cropped that

Oh well, not like I have anything to hide Except for maybe my blood magic power level

>>150937191
http://www12.zippyshare.com/v/W33Qr9Sd/file.html

This is the only one still alive.

>>150937558
>THICC

You're number one on my remove list now.

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>>150937558
Here's a bit of correction.

>>150937558
Judging by >>150936086 Ys is near the spooky woods, so probably in that sea on the northwest.

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I warned you about the province, Ashia. I warned you.

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>>150937818
Feel free to reveal your name so I can show you that Agarthans can grow even bigger than giants where it counts

>>150937868
I'd be up there helping you but meme demons have cut me off for at least three more turns

Once that's dealt with I have some dank priest level 3 memage coming up though

>>150938019
It's fine, I should be able to last for a while.

If it comes to worst I'll just move my entire nation a tile up and give free passage to Ermor towards Arco and and Ys.

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>Have new computer
>Have fancy new games
>Still just want to play Dominions and nothing else

Are there some graphically advanced games offering similar depth compared to Dominions?

ARE YOU HERE BANDAR LOG?

>>150938652
The less boardgame-like a game becomes the more depth it loses. Nothing fancy looking can really compete with Dominions in terms of depth from what I've seen.

You should be able to run all those big Paradox map-painting fuckfests no problem if you feel like it. Beyond that maybe some simulation type stuff would interest you.

I've been thinking of upgrading my computer for a while now but then I got to thinking of what I'd actually play with a stronger computer and came up blank.

>>150939106
Sure, what do you need?

>>150939397
I will be real mad if you try to take my provinces.

>>150939847
How about you don't act like a bitch pushing so far into my territory? I'm more than willing to let you have provinces as long as they aren't that close to me.

>>150939921
Youre closer to my capital than I am to yours, and Caelum is far closer to your capital than I am. Stop whining or there will be war.

>>150939397
>>150939847

Hey guys, allow me to interfere with your arguing and ask who is south west to me? I dont see anyone yet.

>>150940029
>Youre closer to my capital than I am to yours
And?

>Caelum is far closer to your capital than I am
Doesn't affect this.

>Stop whining or there will be war.
Seems to me like you're already set on war anyways.

>>150940265
I do not want war but you are saying you will take my provinces, I see that as a declaration of war.
Retract your statement and do not take the provinces and there will be no war.

>>150940265
>>150940652
How you niggas gonna win the game if you don't ever go at war?

>>150940652
Well we gotta have war at some point like >>150940728 said, might as well get over with it now. I'd suggest you just leave me those provinces but whatever, it's your funeral.

>>150940728
>not winning the game diplomatically
What a scrub.

I will not leave you those provinces, all you offer in return is leaving a province your dead expansion party can't take.

Does growth 3 counter the pop killing of ermor or ry'lehs pop killing dominions?

>>150940728
Neither me nor Bandar will win if we start this war, Ermor will.

I've never played a LA game. How are LA games? How come I don't see them often? Does the lack of gems and thus magic make it less fun?

>>150941205
>all you offer in return
If these are independent provinces he doesn't need to offer you shit.

If you wanted them, you should have expanded that way earlier.

>>150941205
>>150941315
>we'd just be helping x!

Sounds to me like you aren't ready for a war, good, I could use your capital.

>>150941519
He wants to take 2 provinces I have had for many turns, he offers me an independent province he can't take in return

>>150942010

Hey dude who is south from Blog/you.

Also which provinces does he want?

AllMemes Bandar, if you decide to attack elves expect unexpected help.

>>150942010
Oh, well then. That's completely different.

Good luck with your coming war. At least Bandar was nice enough to give you advance warning.

>>150942238
Agartha, he posts his map here daily.

why does the province numbers matter? It's some of my first provinces.

>>150942336

I just want to know where the war fires near me are burning. I would really appreciate this information.

New LA game.

Map: Urraparand with caves and 12 fixed starts
Mod: Worthy Heroes 5.5 (NN)
Link: http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=SparklyThrones

9 slots remaining

>>150942583
>no Summod

Cmon now

>>150942783
What balance problems are there in LA?

Which are the most OP and which are the weakest nations?So I can know who to pick and avoid?

And please respond >>150941418

>>150942913

Ragha and bats have ridiculous win rates.

>>150941224
nope. they are too fast.

>>150942913
What >>150943042 said, I'm not memeing about Summod, Ragha and bats really are a fucking cancer in LA, Summod nerfs them to be a bit more in line with everyone else.

Asphodel 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Ermor 2h file received
Ashdod 2h file received
Mictlan 2h file received
Nazca 2h file received
Pangaea 2h file received
Pelagia 2h file received
R'lyeh 2h file received
>Sceleria Waiting for 2h file
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Vanheim 2h file received
Ys 2h file received

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Just dogpile on them if people pick them, simple as.

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>>150939261
>There will never be a graphically detailed 3D dorf fort clone

>>150943836
You would literally need a planet sized computer to handle that

>>150943919
And why is that? Minecraft runs on toasters, Dorf Fort runs on laptops, combining both and sprucing up the graphics should be doable on modern desktops.

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>>150943919
Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiterally??

>>150944078
All minecraft has to calculate is the sun moving, a dozen npc mobs wandering around aimlessly and whatever the player is currently interacting with.

Dorf Fort is calculating the thoughts, actions and interactions of god knows how many things all together constantly. Forget even how intensive that would be hardware-wise, getting all of that stuff visually represented would be hellish.

The best simulation-type stuff I can see working out with fancy graphics is small to moderate scale simulation stuff. Like platoon-scale combat simulators and stuff. No world simulation will look better than Dorf Fort for a long time I think.

>>150943919
The calculations are the exact same you autist, it having 3D models and textures or not doesn't change shit, all that runs on the GPU which is basically not utilized currently.

The issue is you would need a shittonne of assets to cover all the various possibilities and permutations, which would mean a lot of work for a lot of asset creators.

>>150944310

DF wouldn't actually be too heavy, but for the fact that Toady's got pretty much everything running in a single thread.

>>150944078
>>150943919
One day it will be doable. We'll get roguelikes and DF and maybe more, all available in HD and glorious 3D graphics.
And Minecraft can be ressource intensive too.

>>150944491
I'm sure with optimisation the simulation-side wouldn't be too harsh, but the man-hours involved in turning what's represented by those ascii characters into 3d models would be mad. And then imagine how it would work game-wise. Do you move the camera through a 3d world now? Can everything in DF actually be represented in 3d? Is it still possible in that game for 99 dragons to occupy the same amount of space as a shrub?

>>150944579
I doubt 2D roguelikes will ever be replaced by 3D ones though, not entirely at least. Even if you get the same complexity, some people don't really want to wait for animations when playing roguelikes. If you ever played one you know what I'm talking about, especially early the game goes really fast, you move where you need to be, press arrow key several times towards a monster to kill him and keep going, adding animation for movement and attacks would prolong the game length by a lot.

>>150942583
>graphs off

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>>150945014
>Having graphs on

>>150945014
earn your graphs, pleb

>>150945014
Dumb graphposter.

>>150944960
Yes I get what you say, though one day, in the future, I assume we could get games with the complexity and depth of a good roguelike but also visuals to match it. That said there is nothing wrong with how roguelikes are right now in terms of graphics.

>>150944114
Did I mistype something, frogposter?

>>150942583
>no Summod
>first two nations in apart from the admin are Ragha and what I assume is bats

Enjoy your shitfest.

>>150945583
>what I assume is bats
Pretty sure 'unexpected nation' means Sceleria

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>>150945583
Lemuria

Fuck you people are so new it hurts

>>150945842

If someone is playing Lemuria that's not really a problem. They're pretty much the weakest nation in LA as soon as anyone gets any sort of mage support going.

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>>150945802
>sceleria
fuck, you know what I meant

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Live!

>>150942583
>http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=SparklyThrones

i'll join. where is your thread?
where is your thread?

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>>150947968
I'm not making a thread lol, gtfo steamshitter

>>150942583
>Ragha and ghosts are already in
>no summod
Bats will join and win. Screenshot this post.

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One more post before I sleep. I'll leave you with this /domg/.

>>150948023
I like this guy. I think I'll join.

>>150948023
I was gonna complain some more about the lack of mememod but this makes up for the lack of it.

>>150942583
Bad map link friend.

>>150949158
Fixed map to a working link with caves, ty for the spot.

>>150947968
>Urraparand with caves and 12 fixed starts
Can someone upload this map somewhere not dead?

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Too late Balor, I've already fapped to you getting pegged by Lugh the Mary Sue.

>>150948023
Dafuq? This shitty thread would be nothing without the Steam group, this is like a town being elitist against the country it is in. All the best and most serious players are in the Steam group you shitface. This place wouldn't fucking exist without them.

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>>150951369
Decent b8, m8.

>>150950032
>getting pegged by Lugh the Mary Sue.

Is it a qt pretender? I need to know if to be hard or not.

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:3

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>>150951369

Where's all the steamshitter hostility coming from? Sure it's not an every-game thing, but it's good for blitzes and disciple games and such.

Have we got /gsg/ in thread again?

>>150942583
Build a wall to keep RaghEADS out and make THEM pay for it

>>150952319
It's mostly memers. Of course Steam group is nice. The only people who say it's shit are probably stalers/leavers/shit players.

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>>150952319
Steamshitters on damage control.
No possibility of recovery.

I need a 12 hour extension please. Do it for Micky.

>>150952426
t. Delusional Steamshitter

>>150952489
This guy knows what's up

>>150952426
Yeah if they don't like our namefag circlejerk they have to be one of THOSE people.

>>150952550
>>150952563
t. Ulm - Waiting for 2h file

>>150952563
Steamshitters are literally 80 percent of the people in here.

>>150952489

Nah, just been out of circulation for a couple years. Started playing again a couple weeks back, and the REEE STEAMGROUP shit is new.

Both games I'm in at the moment are anon.

Tips for LA Ulm?

I hear Vampire Queen got nerfed hard, is that true?

>>150952731
It got nerfed hard in Dom 2.

>>150952689
>the REEE STEAMGROUP shit is new.

I was out for about the same, and I distinctly remember the Steamgroup being if anything even more hated back then. Eat shit.

>>150952731
Eh? You can go Vamp Queen, but for mobile immortal bloodhunter/caster, not for actual vamp generation. Domsummon is shit right now.

Stupid fucks who complain about Steam circlejerk are probably the same faggots who will join your game, and then stale every turn. At least in non-anonymous games you can ban the idiot from all your games, and staler/shitter reputation is not something you can wash off. In anonymous games the cancerous fag is free to rejoin more games and shit in them too.

t. admin of both anonymous and Steam/dom3mods games.

>>150953068
If you like your namefag circlejerk just go to Reddit or wherever, anonymity is the fucking point of this board, why wouldn't we prefer that in games as well?

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>>150953068
>Unironically supporting namefag circlejerking

Nice to see Helheim is still mad. Some things never change.

>>150953242
>anonymity is the fucking point of this board
Are you literally retarded and can't make a simple distinction between anonymous imageboards and anonymous games, you silly cuck? This board is really good for discussions and shit, but when several people start staling in an anonymous game on turn 5 there's no way to ban them or kick them or do literally anything to them besides setting them AI or restarting.Nobody enjoys staling faggots, and in anonymous games staling faggots are predominant.

>BUT MUH ANONYMITY
>BUT MUH NAMEFAG CIRCLEJERK
Anonymous games are good for memes and harmless fun, and I still host them, Steam/dom3mods games are good for when you want to play ACTUAL Dominions 4 without 3 of your neighbors going AI and getting eaten by Ermor and shit.

If you hate normal games just because of MUH IMAGEBOARD CULTURE, you should honestly just kill your underage self.

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>implying wageslaves can into Dominions 4

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>>150954098
>Implying they can't

>>150954098
I like what you're doing, dumb frogposter. You're a river to this community.

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>>150954321
I'm not just implying

>>150954518
>in 13 games
>40 hours a week job
I like having a busy dominions schedule, it helps the week move by faster.

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>>150953880
I can't tell if this is bait or steamshitter asshurt, if it's the latter fucking off yourself faggot. I'll take the rare staler over metafriending metagrudging namefags.

Misfortune 3 with Magic 3, or Misfortune 2 with Magic 2?

Are the Magic 3 events worth the Misfortune 3 ones?

>>150946006
GHOSTPOSTER GHOSTPOSTER SPOOK SOMEWHERE ELSE

After waiting 44 hours for Sceleria to do his first turn, I forchosted. If he's last to do turn 2, I'll set him AI.

Carry on, Pankomanz.

>>150954840
It's obvious bait, you imbecile.

>>150955313

Never go deeper than Misfortune 1 in any game with Events set to common. It will fuck you over.

Mis3 Mag3 is just going to get everyone eaten by Horrors.

>>150955313
What nation? Misfortune 3 tends to be more annoying than the scales show since you can get into a spiral of bad events from events that give negative scales causing other bad events.

>>150955834
>Mis3 Mag3 is just going to get everyone eaten by Horrors.

That..actually sounds fun.

What's the best nation for spreading dom with M3M3 Dom10 ? Should I go for blood or something with stealthy preachers?

>>150956075
Something that can bloodsac works best for dominion-focused strategies.

Not that it'll work. Even if you manage to spread your dom hard enough, it'll still fuck you over way worse than your enemies, and if you're actually able to dompush hard enough for it to make a significant difference, you might as well just go for the domkill.

>>150956075

A blood sac nation, yeah. Pan or Bats or Mictlan are probably your best bets.

>>150956339
Some men don't want to win. Some men just want to watch the world get eaten by void beasts

I could get something with fortune tellers, would that help?

>>150957064
It still wouldn't make it a good idea, but it would help, yes.

>>150937558
Caelum is on my East

>>150939106
I am here. And the guy you was speaking previously wasn't me. He was fueling war between us.
Unexpectedly enough, though, he was stating almost the same thing I would like to tell you.

Elves are faggots.

I was trying to act friendly towards you, I left that indi-province to you out of a good will, and you instead was taking lands right beside my capcircle to cut me from expansion, probably thinking that I wouldn't notice that the lands on the other side are all neutral. Bsically that was an agression. Luckily your Awaken Linormr W4D4N2 died from heavy cav, so for now I can expand a little, but otherwise I would had no other choice but to take my rightful lands from you.
But no, I just suggested to properly draw a border. I asked for 1 province, not 2. And you are still rejecting my sane, respectful proposal? You are a greedy elf. Considering that you are having no Bless (and I do), you are too arrogant.

This is not a war yet, I still have some room to expand, but if you won't allow us to have fair and respectful borders between us, then obviously I will take them myself from you.
Yes, that's a threat. Give me a fair share of lands and I will forget about your greedy, offencive expansion in my direction.

>>150942256
Thank you very much. My intention was to have fair relationships, but since Vanheim is too overly self-conscious it seems I have to show him his place. And I appretiate any help.
Yet, I hope that he will withdraw that fucking little piece of land, and stop pissing me off by pretending to be ignorant how expansion works. I mean, if your Awaken Expander not capturing the easy lands near his own cap, but goes for search of the cap-circles of others and then starting to encircle them, then it's no less than agression.
Vanheim, let's decide about borders which won't harm me, or it's really will be the war.

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>have to choose between picking a thematic pretender or a lore-breaking but better pretender

Ugh.

>>150959302
>lore-breaking pretender
No such thing.

>>150959302
The lore is set by whoever wins the game, m87. Pantokrator makes a monomyth about himself after all.

>>150959258
Whether it was you or not doesn't really matter. I already told you that you're not getting a single province from me.

If you want to go to war that Ermor will win, go ahead. I'm not giving those provinces without a fight.

>>150961205
I hate Ermor with passion, but you won't get away with just shielding yourself with it's name. If you gonna fight Ermor it's great, but before that make sure that you are NOT offending me, your closest neighbour.
But now you are just cutting me from expansion and trying to show me as an agressor. Be humble. Or do you think that I am weaker than you?

>>150955530
You're doing lords work., maybe you're not badmin.

>>150959258
I will let you expand however you want, even if it means retarded borders for me, I will however not let you take a single province I own.

I can even help you if you so desire, but I will not give up any provinces I have already conquered.

>>150961725
People in both sides are pretending to be us, it's better we talk in chat after proof of identity.

>>150962625
Classic /domg/

>>150959302
If your pretender is on national roster, it's not lore breaking

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>>150963530
>starting war between two nations as a neighboring nation

The greatest feeling. It's like I'm actually doing politics!

>>150962625

Hey elf come to the chat.

>>150963805
I'm on the metro

>>150962625
It's bothersome for me to use steam. Let's discuss stuff ingame.

I just want to state that 101 and 79 preventing me from going west. And I need some lands there. I made my proposition, you are next.

>>150963734
>One person pretends to be one player
>Another person pretends to be the player
>Neither of the players are actually in thread

I best this happens more often than not.

>>150963915
You can go north from you current northernmost position, you could've gone south until last turn and I refuse to give up my land because of your lack of foresight

>>150964256
It's not a lack of forsight. It's an agressive behaviour of your Awaken Linomr which prevented me from going west.
Do you think that by securing western lands that unfairly I will be A-OK with it?
Submit to my demands or it will be the war.

Don't think that just by capturing 2 lands near me your Linomr secured 6-8 lands for you from me. I won't buying that bullshit. Give me a fair share of the lands in that region. About 3-4. Otherwise you may think that we are in war.

>>150907418
How come all late age civs suck?

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>>150942583
In as Pangaea.

>>150965512
You are just suck at LA.

>>150964929
>fair share y
It was either me or agartha who would take them. My easternmost province is as far from my capital as its from your.
I was negotiating with agartha early on and we are on good terms, you were quiet.

>>150966167
Also the reason I haven't expanded that far north is because I assumed Marignon would take the provinces, but sadly they seem incapable of expanding.

>>150965789
I've never played late age, its just that all their damn mages suck.

>>150963968
I often start shit with players as other players for games I'm not even in, as I doubt I'm the only one I bet it has happened on at least one occasion that the guy I was talking to not only was not the nation, but he, like me, wasn't even in that game.

>>150955530
Hey Ill be gone this weekend Saturday-Monday can I get a delay of that turn till Tuesday.

>>150967157
Ill need the delay here too

>>150967157

Sure buddy.

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DIE

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>>150970917
indeed

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>>150970917
YESSSSSS

>>150942583
I just joined as midgård

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>>150970917
Living in Dominions World must be awful

>>150971950
If you're a normal peasant.

Neet it up as a hermit mage and you can live for a long time in the forest, and bang naked chicks with your goatbro.

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>>150972346
Speaking of naked chicks and goatbros

>>150971950
Well of misery isn't that bad, right? I thought it channeled all the sadness in the world into death gems for you, right?

>>150973234
What if you're living in the place that all the misery in the world is being channeled to?

>>150973234
Ye but you need misery for that. Where are the celestial rainbows, gifts of health and nature's bounty ?

>>150973541
Presumably at this point the only people in the world are the drunk armies of various gods so they probably don't care

>>150973609
True, but what is life without sadness?

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>tfw

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>>150973979
>True, but what is life without sadness?

>>150974674
Noice

>>150973234
Sure, so the people aren't even allowed to be sad. The world is burning, the seas have been turned into ice, everyone and everything is ageing into senility and decrepitude in a matter of weeks, and they're all forced to enjoy it.

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personally, i blame the elves

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Ten minutes till Der_Gotterdammerung's new turn goes out.

What fresh catastrophes await?

>>150979805
Betting on Nief getting removed this turn. Or the next.

>>150951369
>this is like a town being elitist against the country it is in.

Nothing wrong with that.

t. Texan

>Don't get a single E random after thirty Dusk Elders
>Suddenly get an AE random

I'd be pretty happy about an ethereal RoS caster if my only opponents left to fight didn't have Magic Duel coming out the ass.

>>150979805
I got to watch a battle on Yomi's capital. Yomi wasn't involved.

>>150984104
Do you want me to feel sorry for you?

You're playing Ermor

>>150984383
Will we get a news report about that ?

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Some shit that happened. First army died after retreating into nothingness, the second battle is a temporary setback.

>>150986187
Seems like he's attempting to drown you in numbers.

>>150959302
Your pretender is just a powerful being that people of a region started to worship when God left the world, and all are thematic to the culture each nation represents.
Illwinter made it impossible to pick a lore breaking pretender without mods.

>>150988124
He means like picking Growth 3 on Abysia, which everyone does but is technically breaking the lore.

>>150966586
Lots of Blood and Astral in LA

>>150966845
Well, the obvious thing to do is to send a list of ten code-words in game to each player you expect to diplomance with in the thread. If someone drops the next code-word you gave them, it's probably actually them. Just make sure not to run out of code words. And keep track of them for all the games you're in.

Only 1 slot left gents and we start

If I change the settings and use a new map, then hit start game after the game has already been started, does that reset the game?

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Thank you, based giants.

I expected some equipment though.

how do i postpone in minutes?

>>150990516
For what purpose? Just postpone for 1 hour.

>>150990309
It's equipped.

>>150990595
because i like being punctual.

is there a way to check what map your using once the game starts?

>>150990949
What's with all the retarded questions today? What does it even mean?

Just open it in the map editor.

>>150990595
I just entered a decimal value. I'm guessing it doesn't round up the remainder or set the exact time.

>>150991140
No, I started a PBEM game and there were shinnangans and i need to check what map the save game is CURRENTLY using.

>>150991337
Uhh... Just delete all of your maps (except map images), open the save, and it will tell you the exact file name that you need.

>>150991140
>Retarded Question
>Question you don't know how to answer
ftfy

>>150991431
>delete system.32

>>150991337
You don't even need to have the .map file as the map data (connections and such like) are stored in the .trn file host sends you (or the ftherlnd file on host side). Out of local files, only the .tga image is used.

So no, there isn't a way to determine which map the game was created with because that information disappears as the game is created. That's how it's in-game, anyway, Llamaserver is different: If you go to the admin options, Llamaserver shows the setup the game was created with, like http://www.llamaserver.net/admin.cgi?game=ScrubGenX for ScrubGenX (which was created with Riverlands with 16 fixed starts 1.1).

>>150991431
I'm pretty sure you don't need to have the .map file once the game has started

>>150991953
where? no it doesn't

>>150992405
oh, it says it at the very top

The dnd group was missing two people so we ended up making backstory songs:
http://pastebin.com/wQFiGeDR
http://pastebin.com/0EAfZBwj

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plz don't be die

Shit Squids, my mind hasn't been blown this hard since I started playing EYE.

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My name is Ermor and this is my favourite thread on /vg/

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[muffled rattling]

>>150959258
>Luckily your Awaken Linormr W4D4N2 died from heavy cav

Seize this opportunity to REMOVE ELF

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>tfw ded

>>150955530

cheese.peddler at gmail.com

I'll sub in.

>>150995607
How are your legs?

>>150954098
>What is doubleposting

>>150963968
Top tier cunning posting is pretending to be two nations at the same time to make it look like they are in conflict so their neighbors would jump on the gangbang

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ded

>>150964929
What seems to be the probleme here, officer?

This thread is getting spooky

https://youtu.be/FufL80hJsP8

>>151004104
Honestly, anybody who actually pays attention to in-thread diplomacy is probably too retarded to be an actual threat anyway.

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You have GOT to be kidding me

>>151011551
Fortress China?

>>151014517
Fortress China with a couple of fuckbuddies on the island and probably in the sea too.

BUILD A WALL TO KEEP THE MONGOLS OUT AND MAKE THEM PAY FOR IT

>>151011551

Last time I played on this map Niefelheim was stuck on the island and got memed on pretty hard.

Best of luck, chinaman.

>>151014805
Isn't that port a, well, port? Like, it connects to other land provinces?

>>151011551
turn it into a strength point: encircle all the non cap-ring provinces( don't claim them until later) and aim straight for the farm, then get a bunch of provinces out of the island.
you will put a fort on the farm and if no one has sailing you will be cozy.

ou might need flying shoes to ferry your non flying cap mages out of that shithole however

>>151014902

Yea it does (it connects to all the other land masses iirc), but of course it forces your army through a massive chokepoint. On one hand it can be nice because if you quickly reach it, you've secured the rest of your island and can throw up a fort on it and have a lot of expansion options but you can also get fucked pretty hard.

>>151010954
I've used it pretty frequently. It's not good for having a conversation, but it usually works well for at least either getting to a steam conversation or really quickly ensuring that you don't bump in an anon game

>>151015085
Seems pretty straightforward to me. China just has to kill whoever's on the port and they're set for lyfe. Person on the port has to kill China while also guarding their flank, since anyone else that would want in on killing them can join in on the rush knowing that China has literally no option other than rushing the poor lad that literally cannot share that port province.

What's a good price to ask for items?

>>151015306
Depends on how valuable the mage turn is. Usually cost +1/2, since my preference is to make items for people that I want them to have (eg supply items for fighting ermor or W breathing items for fighting UW)

>>151015428
that's cost + 1 or 2 gems, not half the cost.

sometimes I sell them at cost or lower if I really want to encourage their war or want to turn gems of one kind into something I need more

Also, boosters that the other person can't make (ESPECIALLY universal boosters, like elemental staves and rings) typically come at a very high markup

>>151015519
What about gem to blood slave ratio?

>>151016462
1:3

>>151016462

it definitely does not ever depend.
hahahahha

just kidding

it
fucking
depends.

>>151016462
I almost never trade gems for anything other than gems or items

>>151016743
Well if you have over a hundred blood slaves per turn and someone asks you what you'll give them for one blood slave per turn, what would you say?

>>151016859
>Asks you what you'll give them for one blood slave per turn
Why per turn?

>>151017037
Site income most likely.

>>151016859
>helping someone break into blood
why?

>>151016462

one gem per five slaves has been bandied about before. but it varies from game to game and nation as well.

Trading to a nation trying to boostrap into blood? Make them pay dearly.
Playing a domkill nation and get some from events/whatever? you probably won't be able to command a good price for the virgins.
Have massive blood hunting going on and someone wants to trade me single digits blood slaves? Probably wouldn't do a lot.

>>151016859
I probably wouldn't pay them anything substantial. probably just offer friendship and NAPs, but maybemaybemaybe a gem of a type i have literal tons of and no effective use for.

Or just leverage your hundreds of bloodslaves into hundreds of demons/devils/etc and take the site from them.

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>it's a capring has two water provinces episode

Ok seriously, are we literally going to do nothing about Elves? Vanheim and Helheim seem to have some kind of truce going on and if they don't fight each other they can only go outwards

>but m-m-muh bats

what a joke, they're losing to Mict

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>>150971950
What was the name of the mod that removed all the bully spells? There is a serious need for a game using that.

>>151018267
Don't know, but there's a mod removing blood magic from the game.

>>151018267

What the hell is a "bully spell"?

>>151018467
Trick question Mr. Bones. If you were a human, you would understand intuitively.

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>>151018450
How good is this thing? Worth casting in a meme game like DG ?

>>151018014
I can tell you right now, of the land nations, neither of the elves are top dog.

In research it's Sauro (#1 overall), Machaka, Marverni.
In Gem income, it's Arco, Sauro, Ur.

Elves weren't relevant in those graphs, nor were they winning in province/income either.

Bandar log what's up with that million tigers on my border,1 tile from my throne, 2 from my fucking cap ? please notice that my shitty leftover troops are there mostly because expansion is over and i have a throne on a 3 people border there, if i wanted to attack you i would put them in 179 when i have the choices of attacking 3 provinces worth some shit.

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To whom it may concern:

I plan on attacking 54 (a cave province) this turn with a sacred stack, so hopefully there will be no nasty collisions.

Please make me AI, I have 2 provinces and one of them is besieged.

>>151025129
Serves him right - he played a spook!

>>151025437
he is playing on summod however. he's not overpowered or rushing BoT. didn't fully deserved it.

>>151020406
It will never be more than mildly annoying, especially in bigger games.

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>>151025857
Next you will be telling me that elves and bats make great neighbours, right?

>>151025857
Loving this summon balance meme. Simply love it.

>>151025921
>he doesn't play with Summod

Pathetic

>>151025992
Better be removed soon, ISIS shitter.

>>151025857
>'deserving' being attacked in a wargame

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>>151025857
I completely agree. They should've just left the poor lad there to pop up new sites and spread his dominion. Diplomatic victory is an option, after all.

>>151025921
MA Ermor gets 5 death gems a turn. Blessrushing is not an option.

You also need a pretender with 3 death because you will lose 9 turns if you empower your own spectator.

>>151026364
he has been rushed by 3 players. not even xibalba usually gets this kind of treatment.

>>150959302
>Nation's best possible pretender is also the most thematic
C'tis national lineup is gr8.

>>150988250
Did I miss something or how is that breaking the lore? I thought they were all in to the demonic crossbreeding and breeding business.

>>151027213
are you talking about devourer of soul? or some dank egyptian titan with weird paths?

>>151028108
the nation itself has a bonus for going death. it's a shame that death scales are sob ad for abysia that even with it it doesn't make sense to go death.

>>151028198
I thought it was tied to the ( dying flame/death ) & ( blood and crossbreeding with humans/growth ) thing.

Crossbreeding results should totally get dark vision.

Why must i cast solar brilliance if i want to utilize them?

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>>151029623

>>151028198
>has a bonus for going death
It doesn't. There's no extra bonuses or penalties attached for G/D scales.
What Abysia has is lack of supply bonus/penalty because Abysians do not farm.
That doesn't mean going death is in any way thematic for abysia, they do not have death magic to speak off or even any real interest to it. And they pretty much bred themselves into oblivion instead of death magicing shit up Ermor way or unleashing undead horror Agartha style (broken seal generates D scales)