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Discardlock Edition

>Free $10 Amazon credit for digital downloads expires August 31
>Download Amazon Underground on Android
>Install Hay Day
>wait 48 hours for $10 credit
https://www.amazon.com/Supercell-ltd-Hay-Day/dp/B018GSK5ZC

>/hsg/ poll
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSekNLi_xMC9Bwt9X6IZECo8j4fWGDfa9b6Rbo9c5UVdJmhuDA/viewform

>Deck lists, news etc:
http://tempostorm.com
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/
http://hearthhead.com/
http://hearthpwn.com/
http://www.hearthstonetopdeck.com/
https://manacrystals.com/
http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/category/analysis/

>Arena Help
http://heartharena.com/

>Open Tournaments:
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com

>Deck Tracker:
https://hsdecktracker.net/

Old Thread: >>150941041
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[LAUGHTER INTENSIFIES]
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1st for Emotional Balance
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Elder Scrolls Legends is pretty good if you want to try something that isn't just tempo vs tempo.
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JUST
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Hopefully the next Adventure isnt complete shit

Epic Journeys & Random Encounters would be the best adventure, Monara could be the protagonist.

>oral wing
>anal wing
>vaginal wing
>triple pen wing

http://i.imgur.com/kmSARZ0.jpg
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1st for waifus
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>>150978602
What's that priests? You need a decent card to save you form being the worst class in the game? Okay here you go HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>150978757
10/10
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>>150978757
2 in every deck, excluding hard fatigue decks, perhaps.
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Is it obligatory to give amazon a credit card to get the 10$?
Is there any way around it?

Here's what I have done:
I have installed amazon underground and I have installed through it both hearthstone and hay day
In the underground app there was no trace of any promotion. Instead, in the webpage they asked you personal adress data that I did not want to give. So I downloaded Hay Day from the app hoping that the promotion would trigger anyway. Did I do it right, /hsg/?
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>>150978757
9.9/10
Any deck not running that card would need a very compelling reason.
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>>150978602
Whoa is it OC hour already?
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>>150978757
might run it in a combo deck or something
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>>150978920
you should get an email, did you log into your amazon account on the underground app?
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>>150978757
0/10 no synergy with ancient watcher or eerie statue
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>>150979026
of course

so will I need a credit card?
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>>150978757
0/10 would literally never see play 0 +1 draw +1 mana is more balanced
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>tfw actually bought an arena pass with money
>at 9 wins
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>>150979117
Yes, you need a credit card linked to your account
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>>150979045
You can draw purify with it.
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>>150979117
>>150979171
You may also need to change your account to "1-Click Ordering" to use it on your phone
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>>150978757
rouges do this
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>>150978757
It's good because:
It limits the amount of cards from 30 to 28, so the density of good cards is augmented
It counts as a spell (for yogg)
It counts as a card (for minions that need full hands) that can be replaced instantly

It's bad because:
It limits the space to 28 cards where you might need some tech cards or something
As a spell it might trigger enemy secrets and could be copied for combos for enemy rogues
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>>150979161
Reminder that arena is rigged so you get better cards when you pay real money
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Al right dipshits, the original definition of "power creep" in relation to card games was the creation of objectively better versions of strong meta cards with the objective of forcing players to buy the new cards if they wanted to stay competitive. If a card no one played got an obectively better version, it would not have not been considered power creep.

HOWEVER

Printing better versions of bad cards was acceptable because it was impossible to update printed media without issuing mass recalls, which wasn't feasible. Their way to "update" a card was to print a different version of it. Continuing this practice in an online medium proves that whomever is at the helm is simply copy pasting techniques from phyisical TCG without really understanding the reason behind them, which reveals their incompetence.

TL;DR

It's not "power creep", but its still a shitty design desicion.
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>my Yogg brought me back from the brink of failure
>healed me for 14, summoned some minions, buffed them up and wiped his side of the board
>5 turns later the warrior pulls his own Yogg
>buffs my shitty minion then deals exactly the 10 damage needed for lethal
Nothin personnel
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>>150978757

10/10, run in everything but hardcore fatigue decks maybe
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>>150979171
>>150979302
Will I be able to un-link the credit card?
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>>150979464
i agree with most of what you said, but I think they are doing it out of sheer laziness. They have to hit a specific card count with every expansion and when they can't be arsed to make more cards, they instead throw in some dumb filler.
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2 MANA
SILENCE ONE OF YOUR OWN MINIONS
DRAW A CARD
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>>150979623
of course
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>>150978757

Its neutral, so its balanced.
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Has anyone done any actual good reviews of the Priest cards? Noxious was pretty fair but he didn't seem to be aware of the Barnes/Volazj synergy.
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>>150978949
why is this card so bad
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>>150979862
There is no synergy there, sir. Only wishful thinking. You're in the stage most commonly referred to as, "Denial". Next comes anger.
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>>150979738
2 MANA
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>>150978602
Who would win in a bareknuckles fist fight- Purity, Totemic Might or Thistle Tea?
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>>150980151

Thistle tea can actually win you games, unlike the other two.
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>>150980151
TEA
E
A
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>>150978920
You should get an email from amazon titled "Your $10 Amazon Appstore credit has been delivered" after a while. I got it before the 48 hours.
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>>150980079
HHHHHHHHHH
LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS HEAD
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>>150980048
When do we stop the hyperbolic masturbating and actually talk about what the cards do?
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>>150980517
dies to execute
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>>150980534
Minions with 0 health can't live retard
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>>150980609
well duh he's a skeleton
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>>150980151
Tea can be pretty good.
I love it when Yogg casts Tea, you never expect it as a non-rogue. Three roaring torches is a game ender.
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>>150980534
you got me mr.skeleton
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>>150978602
Why wouldnt you just power word:shield for +2hp and draw?

Only use in that card is silencing detrimental effects, like ogre brute, or that new 4 for a 7/7
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>>150980749
>posting jumpscares
Really dude
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>>150980842
>getting scared from an image
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>>150980749
Time to fap.
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>>150980818
>blizzard values silencing your own minions above giving minions 2 hp
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>>150980818
>Play Barnes
>Silence the 1/1 Deathwing
+11/+11 and draw a card for 2 mana.
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what server does kripp play on so i can snipe him
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>firelands portal into leeroy is 11 damage to face
>with one card

you thought the angry trees were bad, wait till you get gibbed by that shit
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>>150980749
this gave me a seizure
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>>150981078
What were they intended to accomplish in this Webm?
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>>150981078
>fireland into summoning stone into velen
>10 to face
>6 dmg frostbolt
>8 damage ice lance
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>>150981057
>next turn
>play herald volajz
>silence the 1/1 deathwing
>draw a card
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>>150981153

Looks like they were trying to have the girl getting tossed land on her feet instead of her face
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>>150981236
>silvermoon portal
>summon a purify
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>all this priest babies crying will make blizzard buff them to tier 0 with some bullshit val'kyr card
>meanwhile paladin still mourns for the loss of shielded minibot

Not fair
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so how many of you actually got the amazon credit to work?

I downloaded amazon underground on nox
I installed HayDay, Hearthstone, and I received my 10 dollar credit.
I try to make purchase in Hearthstone, yet when I click on the "get item" button on the amazon overlay, it gives me an error message.

I checked my amazon account and it shows me I have an invoice for the item I got and that it costed 0.00, yet the item isn't in the game for me.

idk what i did wrong, but this shit is giving me a brain tumor
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>>150981412
Purify is a Rogue nerf

Everyone is like "haha Blizzard you fucks kick Priest while it's down!". No. Rogue is the anti Priest class and they push the whole Burgle shit. Priest can just not include the shit card. Rogues will get that shit randomly.
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>>150980048
The synergy is literally a thing that exists. You silence a 1/1, you get the original stats. Decks have been built on the concept.

It might not be good enough to justify playing, but saying "there is no synergy" just makes you retarded.
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>>150954625
>draw-go
>a real control deck

draw-go's only strategy is to just play lands, keep lands open, and then use every single counterspell you could possibly load into your deck

that's not control, that's just keeping people from playing the game
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>>150981631
whatever will I do with a 2 mana cantrip as Rogue?
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>>150981631
there won't be any priests to take purify from

or we'll just play the superior deck that only uses classic cards and tomb pillager
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>>150981570
At least Paladin has the cutest card
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>>150981598
does the invoice look like this?
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Quick question: Started playing recently, have almost all decent C'thun neutrals. I main Druid and have all the C'thun priest cards. Don't have any legendaries and have like 1 good epic. Should I be buying C'thun packs or classics?
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Elements? I like
Totems I looooove
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>>150981869
would have been great if Yrel was the new hero so you could make a all draenie deck

it would have been cool if alternate heroes were all free, and they each had difference bonuses so you could have variance based on hero portraits

too bad hearthstones content is all one night in development
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>>150981935
By legendaries and epics, I mean at all, not just c'thun.
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>>150981935
Save up for karazhan so you can get the priest class cards
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>Noxious going full savage on Hearthstone devs

You know you fucked up when some guy who plays gimmicky priest decks for a living calls your card 'trash', fucking lmao
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>>150981890

nope, I haven't received any emails, and this is under "my orders"
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>>150981869
Yes.
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>>150981890
Yeah, you can see Grand Total is zero dollars
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>>150982195
shouldnt it be

>give two random friendly minions divine shields
and they are fucking her raw, so they have no shields on
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Anyone else on the verge of quitting the game? I honestly only have Arena drafts still holding me to this game. The meta feels like a puzzle solved before the cards even drop, that's only slightly varied, the new cards even kinda feel like "more of the same", Tavern Brawls are inconsistently fun/unfun and I have no will to push for Legend. Other than Arena, the only thing that might still hold me here is a sunk cost fallacy.
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>>150982165
Ok Shawn Micheal MacQueen, you are not getting the product? Total for this Order shows $0
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Can't wait for games to be decided by Barnes giving my opponent Ragnaros and Sylvannas
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>>150978602
This card is like staring into the void. It's just so incredibly mindbogglingly bad, the more you look at it and the more you think about it, the worse it gets. Like something out of a Lovecraft story, it's slowly driving you insane by it's mere presence
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>>150982319

yeah I don't have any packs in my account.
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>>150980296
>>150980306
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>>150982313
This expansion doesn't seem interesting, and coming off WOTOG it's hard to believe that the interesting and slower cards are going to survive to have a presence in the meta. I still like Arena as well.

If I didn't find TES Legends to be the laziest shit crapped out by a major studio for CCG, I might have moved to that. But it's just another sign that the good lore of TES is RIP, and I get salty about that and probably could never play it for that reason either.

I guess I'll see what Gwent is like.
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>>150980015
It's an overpriced Blessing of Kings with worse stat distribution. If you don't remove something on the board, you just paid 5 mana for a 90% chance to lose tempo.
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Imagine /hsg/ without priestcucks
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>>150982028
>Totems? I LAV
GOTYAY tier voice on that card, I wish it was actually good.
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>>150956410
How can I fix this, please help
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>>150982313
Just dust everything and make a meme deck, then when you're tired of the meme deck you'll be forced to leave forever.
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>having a cozy night playing Hearthstone in my room
>a fucking housefly won't leave me alone
>keeps buzzing infront of my face and landing on my screen
The door is wide open you fuck, leave me alone
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>>150982536
>with worse stat distribution
i dont think so. better more often than worse in trading situations.
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Arcane Giant could help push Yogg Rogue, right?
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>>150982786
yes
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>>150982621
I'd honestly rather give my account over to someone, since I never paid Blizzard a single cent for anything. Someone else might as well peruse some of these ~24 legendaries. F2P btw :^}
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>>150982313
The game has been like this for quite a while, but there was a time when you'd think it could get better. Now it gets worse instead. I mean how hard is it to satisfy a player base that's devoted to your company ? How hard is it to please the casual crowd you seek to attract ? How hard can it be to design cards that aren't complete shit for the one class that's always deemed as inferior to the rest ?
There's only so much shit people can eat before they want to try a different restaurant.
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>>150982786
No
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>>150978757
It's Jar of Greed 0.5
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What is it /hsg/?
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>>150982786
It can. But tell me, realistically, how many spells do you expect to cast before you drop the Giant, and what stops your enemy from just using a removal spell on it?
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is there any way in which purify can be good
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>>150983096
Batman
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>>150982313
i don't see the point in permanently quitting, when i feel like playing it i play and and when i don't i just go a few weeks without playing
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r8 h8 masturb8
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>>150978602
>Power word: Shield
>1 mana, give a minion +2 health and draw a card

>Purify
>2 mana, silence your own minion and draw a card

Silencing your own minion confirmed for being more expensive and important than giving it 2 extra health.
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>get priest daily quest
>get matched up against freeze mage
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How long until the rules for Standard rotation change? Will it be a Blizzcon announcement? The current system was obviously made so that they have a reason to drop out both Naxx and GvG at once, but dropping BRM, TGT and LoE in one go would be fucking madness.
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>>150983157
>Give a friendly 1/1 Deathwing +11/+11. Draw a card.
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>>150983228
how about Twilight Drake instead of Mountain Giant?
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>>150983228
take out 1 PW glory and put in SW death instead
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>>150983228
>one shadowform
>one
>1
Really makes you think priest shitters are so fuckng bad they don't even know their own class.
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>>150983228
Remove Glory and Mountain Giant

Add Doomsayer and who the fuck cares what else you're a Priest
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>>150983228
Man hold up, you're resurrecting stuff but not injured blade master? Da fux?
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>>150983410
Injured Blademaster just gets 7/7'd or Executed to death
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>retards shitting on purify
Its amazing, you silence your minions so they're not bad anymore and you get to draw a WHOLE CARD
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>>150978878
>not random card

Sorry champ, no job for you.
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Which legendary should I craft?

Ragnaros
Cairne Bloodhoof
Alexstraza
Ysera
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>>150983228
i almost like it
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>>150983549
Nozdormu, because you're already an impatient fuck.

As with every expansion, the crafting meta is "wait until first Tempostorm Meta Snapshot to determine what is good"

Then fuck your choice, go craft something that helps stop Zoolock.
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>>150983498
blademaster is like the best target to resurrect early game. You have to death the 7/7
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>>150983549
cairne tbfh
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>>150983549
Ragnaros probably combos with Purify the best out of those cards.
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>>150983671
You have a 4/3 on T3.

It dies.

Assuming you do get a Resurrect at this point and seeing how few minions there are in this deck, the opponent should have ~3 minions on board and at least one removal spell in hand.
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>>150983345
>>150983387
>>150983410
You guys don't get the deck, the goal is to hopefully play zero early game minions so you get to Res an 8/8, Thaurisan, or Gadgetzan (leaving you mana to cycle with a bunch of cheapened spells the same turn)
>>150983360
There are plenty of big removal spells for now, and the glory is usually cycled with gadgetzan. I would sooner cut Shadowform but not a bad suggestion, I used to run 2.
>>150983369
Kys, its the worst card in the deck. Not crafting another one.
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>>150983549
In order of usefulness:
Alex, Cairne, Rag, Ysera

In order of the most fun:
Alex (especially vs. Reno), Ysera (LOOK AT THAT VALUE!), Cairne, Rag
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Sending a request to blizzard to make priest less shit
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>>150983816
are you seriously running blademaster and yogg but not circle of healing?

blademaster circle turn 3 (or turn 2 with coin) then immediately resurrecting the blademaster is an amazing tempo play
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>>150983824
>play zero early game minions

good job, you just died to Dragon Warrior at turn 5, better luck next time friendo
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>>150983845
>Alex over Rag
>In a Warrior meta

Get a load of this Priestbearer
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>>150983696
True and even though you could play Rag + Purify on the same turn, it's better to wait untill your next turn to get the free hit in and to see if your opponent has a BGH to deal with the Rag. Since you know, even if you silence him right away, you can't attack face on the same turn anyways.

This is why I'm thinking Ysera might be better. With more HP, it's more likely to stay alive until the next turn where you can value-Purify it. You might say "but anon, Ysera would draw you a card at the end of your turn anyways". But seriously, most of the cards Ysera draws aren't very good and most of the cards in a Priest deck are very good. Plus assuming Ysera would stay alive for a second turn would be greedy so just go ahead, Purify her and take the free draw. It'll discourage your opponent from attacking her and cause a literal mindfuck too.

So I would say Ysera, definiately.
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>>150978602
>common

Not only does it not fix Priest's construct problems, but it also fucks up the slightly better Priest arena.

I started playing HS only recently. What did Priest do to Blizzard devs to warrant such hatred? Did several priest fiddle with their diddles while they were kids?
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>>150984045
I play Warrior, I cum all over myself whenever I fight Renolock kill them the turn after they play Reno because of Alex + infinite board control.

Alex is great.
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>>150983824
flash heal is vastly better than PW glory
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>>150984248
I am happy you get use out of your 9 mana legendary in one out of thirty games.
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>>150978757

Automatic 2-of in every deck.

Keep in mind, however, that a 0-mana Purify would be much worse than that card. You can't cast Purify without 1) having a minion in play that 2) you're willing to silence.
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>>150984039
>2 PW:G
>2 SW:P
>2 Shadow Madness
>2 SW:H
>2 Holy Nova
>2 Excavated Evil
>2 Wild Pyro
>1 Shadowform
>2 Holy Smite
Faerie Dragon would be annoying but meh, Warrior plays allot of shit in SW:H range
>>150984265
It's not even remotely close with no Auchenai in the deck. PW:G completely cucks minions when your side of the board is empty, which it is through the entire early game
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>>150984408
But muh Keeper of Aldor counterplay
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>>150978642
I'm trying to make a degenerate khajiit + Argonian deck. How do I even start? Pilfer seems to be the thing I should be focusing on, but the effect seems clunky as hell.
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>>150984408
>0-mana Purify would be much worse than that card.
0 mana
Give a friendly 1/1 Deathwing +11/+11. Draw a card.
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>>150984220
>What did Priest do to Blizzard devs to warrant such hatred?
Nothing. It takes casuals' toys and beats them over the head with those toys which has them frothing at the mouth over it. And Blizzard can't afford to make casuals sad.
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i miss MC
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>>150984607
so priest will finally get a win condition now?
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Why was Priest designed to steal cards from other players?
I mean, Rogue and I think another "steal" copies of cards, but Priest STEALS YOUR SHIT.

Can't they just take that away and build Priest around really good heals and self-sustain? Like Warrior except it uses minions to go face and remove instead of using a weapon to go face and remove?
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>>150984490
also counters freeze mage :^)
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Do you know what the worst/best part about purify is? All that bullshit the Blizz devs said about how they were "excited" for the new priest cards. Excited. For Purify.

Oh and they basically reprinted resurrect, what a fucking game changer. How exciting. A card that already exists stapled to a body.
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>>150978757
10/10, it essentially thins your deck by two.

It's an exact replica of Pot of Greed if you add x2 copies.
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>>150984713
Then why not just change the class' gimmick from stealing minions to something else, like a good silence class instead of a bad one? Or make shadowpriest viable or something else?
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>>150978757
It's funny that even if Purify were 0 mana it'd still be bad because you'd run into situations where you don't have a friendly minion to play it on, or you'd be silencing your cleric or shade
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>>150984607
>magical christmas land scenarios mean a worthless card isn't worthless
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>>150985140
how can you be so retarded?
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>>150985304
I mean there'd still be situations where it's literally unplayable because "friendly minion only." Even power word shield if you're desperate lets you buff an enemy minion, and if you're priest and the enemy has no minions you're probably pretty happy.
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>hit max gold cap in ranked 3 days in a row
>still not gone higher than rank 18
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>>150985578
what the fuck are you doing
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>accidentally hit escape in arena
>wont let me connect to game
>acting like the game never existed
ok
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>>150985220
>narrow card is worthless because i can't slot it into every deck like PW:S
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>>150985753
playing priest probably
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>>150982786
_________ Rogue needed a mana efficient heal, they got burgle memes instead
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>>150982786

I dunno about Yogg Rouge, but it'll be in Maly/Miracle Rogue for sure.
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>Take a Priest deck into rank 20
>The season's a week old, the tryhards are surely clear by now, it'll just be memey homebrews
>Get stomped four times in a row by T1 decks
>Remember that Kara is going to do nothing to fix this

......I just want to matter again.......
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>>150986019

BUT WHAT IF YOU STOLE LAY ON HANDS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>150985753
tempo mage

75% of my matchups are garrosh
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>>150986113
LUL
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>>150986113
Dude, you should at least be able to get to rank 10, even with Priest.
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new to game anything worth here?
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quick hsg

post a picture that sums up your main
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>>150986393
malkorak is good if you want to play dragon warrior
not much else
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>>150986393
Malkorok is top tier. Nerubian Prophet is good. You should be keeping them all unless they're duplicate auto-dusts, though.
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Isn't Dragon Priest at least a tier 3 deck right now?
I know you guys want to play Priest and not Bad Dragon Warrior but still, at least Priest isn't 100% unplayable.
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>>150985938

Sorry, but that card is literally fucking worthless in any conceivable deck. Anything it does, Silence does better.
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>>150986483
midrange shaman
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>>150986393
Malkarok is very good, especially if you don't have a full set. Tempo/Dragon Warrior decks will always be good.
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Ive been playing Weebstone lately and holy fuck I love this card.
It basically discards your deck as a battlecry and replaces it with 10 incredibly overpowered cards, like 5 mana 13\13's.
In that game its considered a top tier card and the sole win condition of one of the classes (Its a neutral card).
Here is the list of all the cards it gives you http://pastebin.com/KcbgV8X0
Do you think something like this could realistically be printed in hearthstone? the biggest problem I see is auto-winning fatigue wars.
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>>150986556
Priest removal is awful, there's no point playing them over Warrior until they get a class-specific card that completely outweighs all the value Warrior gets with Execute/Win Axe/all that card draw/Grommash,etc. etc. etc.
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>Get to rank 5 with a modified Dragon priest today
Turns out that people never play around 20 burst damage from hand while playing against a priest.
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>>150986483
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>When you get THAT draw
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>>150986483
Priest
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>>150986483
Zoo
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>>150986775
>Both flame imps got killed by a single minibot
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>>150986523
>>150986546
>>150986638
Wew thanks, don't think Malkorok was that good.


I'm having lucky with this, bought 3 packs and won a Leeroy and Velen too
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>tfw dont play rogue
oh well
to the dust pile it goes
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>>150986917
>Not playing the villagers first
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>>150986393
>durrr
>this card looks stylish and i got a loud noise when i turned it
>anythin worth keeping in this opening tho xd?
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>>150986483

N'Zoth Rogue
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>>150986618
Except replace itself or be represented 3+ times, you simpleton.
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>>150986710
Post dick.
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>>150986483
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>>150986483
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>>150987032
>He thinks all legendaries are good
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>>150986483
Warrior
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>>150987032
Sorry if a look like this, i'm trying to make a deck using dust from shit cards and don't know what is worth keeping.
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>>150987260
that wasn't what he asked though, he posted 5 cards, one of which was a legendary, and asked if any of them were any good
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>>150987284

I fucking love that picture, we need Shaman and Hunter ones.
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>>150978757
11/10 in rogue decks, 10/10 in everything else, except for the most extreme fatigue/mill decks.
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>>150982939
Lol blizz doesn't give a fuck about priest fags. Go play mtg... Oh yah you don't have friends! Midrange for lyfe faggot. The game is about minion combat not faggy removal.
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>against Warrior without turn 2 flaming hatchet of favorable skill
>win

>against Warrior with turn 2 flaming hatchet of favorable skill
>lose

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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>>150987447
Really amazing in flame walker deck too
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>>150980517
>dies to bgh
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>>150987454
this
midrange masterrace, assemble!
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>>150987340
Never DE warrior cards. NEVER. They will all get used in the future in some OP warrior deck.

About priest, Purify is shit but I think the 0 mana silence will see play after this adventure in some decks.
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I was starting to get really starting to think this may be impossible without Kel'Thuzad. Last two then I get my card back, mates!
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>>150987496
>>against Warrior without turn 2 flaming hatchet of favorable skill

We know you're lying because warriors never don't have the win axe on turn 2. Even if they don't play it on 2, they still have it.
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>>150983228
What's your win condition?
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Can someone post the Firelands Portal pasta
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>>150987496
>turn 1 coin into win axe
>turn 2 Dread Corsair, Dread Corsair
Just fuck me up
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>>150987284
warrior requires skill
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>>150988115
Patron did
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>>150988115
>warrior requires skill
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>>150988115
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>>150988346
control warrior also requires skill
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>>150987114

What the fuck is your proposed payoff, asshole? Ancient Watcher? Congrats, you played a Yeti. Eerie Statue? A 6 mana 7/7 isn't nearly good enough to justify playing that piece of shit. What the fuck is it that you're planning to do with Purify? There would need to be a one mana 10/10 with some horrific drawback to bother using that trash for. There is no such thing in the game.
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is there a deck with the main purpose of out-fatiguing the opponent?
i want to really frustrate some people
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>>150987117
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>>150987795
Nice job buddy, I had a lot of trouble with that one until I figured out how to cheese it properly.
Used a mill rogue deck to burn some of his big cards, and ganged up my pit snakes to take out his big minions with ease.
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>>150988358
>>150988372
explain
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>>150988464
Not good enough. Enjoy shieldbearer rank.
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>>150987454
>I enjoy eating shit and gargling on Benny B's cum all day long
>m-muh midrange
>minion combat when the game is all about removal for board control
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>>150987496
>turn 2 flaming hatchet of favorable skill
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>>150988585
(You) first, what makes you think Warrior (or any class in this game) requires skill?
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>tfw slowly making rank progress
>expecting to be rank 5 before Karyzhan so i can meme it up without needing to tryhard
Realisticly i'll just push for legend and completely forget about Kazhakztan
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>>150986967
I play rogue and got Xaril out of my first few packs, Miracle was good and fun until it became warrior/shaman every game.
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>tfw have vek'lor and cant make any cthun decks
should i dust
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>>150987496
FWA isn't an instant win. It's the rest of the curve that follows it too. If they have no follow up they basically just take 10 face damage and make it easier for you to burn them down.

FWA is still broken as shit though.
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>>150987496
t. gul'dan
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>>150988779
with warrior you need to know how to value trade
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>>150988446
You (or the person I replied to) said
>Sorry, but that card is literally fucking worthless in any conceivable deck. Anything it does, Silence does better.
I replied to you that you were factually incorrect. And you are.
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>>150988993
Nah, don't dust any useful legends ever. EVER, YOU'LL REGRET IT ;_;
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>>150978671
underrated post
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>>150988393
beating control warrior takes more skill
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>>150989095
I dusted Huhuran twice and Xaril once.
Dusting Elise and evil Hogger both felt worse than that.
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>>150988115
>warrior requires skill
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>>150988656
But I got to rank 5 with it.
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>>150988965
miracle is good but xaril is not very good
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>>150989229
explain
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>>150988393

this.
>>150989178

combating fedoraism takes 3x the thinking that playing it does.
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>waiting for the 10$ credit on Amazon
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>tfw you get a Warlock Dominance on the last day of brawl
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>>150989463
10 bucks is cool but I'm just gonna use it to buy packs filled with non-legendary cards I already have and one Millhouse.
>>
Say something nice about Kolento
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>>150988560
Thanks! I am probably aiming for Naxx after this and BRM last, depending on how easy Kara is for heroic because I reeeeeeally want that wax seal cardback
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>>150989594
He makes nice music videos
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>>150989524
saved that fast as fuck
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>Mage plays a faceless summoner
>the faceless summoner spawns, its battlecry triggers and it summons another minion
>the extra minion is an Addled Grizzly
>the Addled Grizzly buffs the faceless up to a 6/6
>even though it was spawned after the faceless was
I feel as if it shouldn't work this way, and it makes me angry that it does.
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>>150989991
>Summoning stone and Atiesh on-field, opponent plays Flamestrike
>Get two Anthonies from them
>Now you're sitting on GREAT BALLS OF FIRE
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>>150989189
>dusting elise
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What if demonfuse cost zero mana?
Would it be a staple in zoo?
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>>150990251
No
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does anyone else tech in the card that their current rank is? except rank 1 of course
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>>150989991
>have 8 lands in play
>play scapeshift
>2 valakuts activate 6 times each for 24 damage because each mountain counts all of them in play as they come into play
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>>150988669
The metas not good right now it lacks fun combo and good decks all around. that said priest is the ultimate cancer. 30 minutes of unfun entirely reactionary play. Priest cucks can complain and quit the game literally no one cares cuz it's only the most autistic and unfun players. Oh and there's only like 2 of them.
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>>150990251
It should draw you a card :,)
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>>150990251
probly
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>>150990251
sounds pretty broken
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>>150989554
>not using your 10 funnybucks to get one night in development for half off
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>>150990329
Pretty shit combo though and basic burn does it quicker
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>every day start at rank 12
>climb up to rank 10
>go on a double digit losing streak
>back to rank 12 again

I'm so fucking done with this game.
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>>150990320
I'm not autistic
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>>150990320
No my rank fluctuates too much.
Also I dusted my BGH
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Rate my secret OP wild Priest deck.
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>>150989554
>not buying a hero
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>>150990481
it got top4 in GP SD 2013 I think
I remember because that was the video where kibler was playing against eggs
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>>150990631
Runs paletress, so that makes it a 10/10 for me.
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>tfw 60% win rate with Miracle
anyone else NOT a shitter?
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>>150990778
yeah
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>>150990631
no lightbombs, family. there is no good priest deck that does not have lightbomb in wild.
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>>150990778
>miracle
shitter
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>>150991067
t. reno jackson
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>>150991098
t. tempo rogue who doesn't rely on drawing a single meme card
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>>150989058

So you can't actually come up with any situation where Silence isn't straight better. That's what I thought. Now fuck off and stop defending the indefensible.
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>>150991237
too dumb to play a real rogue deck so you mimic the hunter playstyle? that's okay it's not for everyone
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>>150991378
Any time you would want to silence your own minion, without causing card disadvantage. Is that too high of a conept for you, retard?
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>>150991237
>2 chargers, argent squire, dark iron dwarf, cold blood, defender of argus
>""""""tempo""""""
just like zoo is a control deck because it likes to control the board.
>>
>first legend
>Chogall
H-How did I do?
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>>150989694
Thanks for following my blog everyone.

It was pretty easy overall, if you haven't done LoE and have a decent card pool, I really recommend it. I did it without CW, mega Priest or a full collection so.
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Do the devs even play actually this fucking game?
Every expansion is literally them memeing out cards they think would be "fun" rather than good. fuck this game
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>>150991806
Nice wargole- I mean, free epic.
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>>150991725
>assuming my deck
enjoy being wrong

>>150991501
>meme combos
>real rogue

>hunter
>tempo

ha ha ha ha
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>>150991982
least intelligent post of all time

>meme xDDDD
keep that shit on reddit nigger
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>>150992196
>le nigger XD
keep that shit on /pol/, edgelord.
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>>150992196
>waah waah reddit waah nigger waah
typical miracle shitter when he's confronted with the fact that his entire deck is based around a shitty gimmick combo
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>>150992312
yeah? what combo is that?
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>>150992512
keep stacking up those cold bloods on your leeroy/edwin you drew from auctioneer gimmicks before concealing them and pretend it's not a dumb 1-2 turn kill combo
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>>150991982
>>150992261
>>150992312
>muh dynamic minion combat
literal bots have taken shit like secret paladin and midrange hunter to legend.

you say """"""tempo"""""" decks but what you really mean is curve decks that play themselves every game. all they need is someone to drag the cards onto the board.
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>>150991869
That was pretty quick, good job m8
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>>150986483
Priest.
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>>150992701
>tempo = midrange
stopped reading there lol
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>>150992667
where's the gimmick
>>
Hey!
I just got my first legendary in a pack.
"shifter zerus"
Did I get shafted?
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>>150992860
>tempo = a type of deck
>>>/reddit/
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>>150986483
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>>150992701
A tempo deck is not a curve deck. A tempo deck uses multi-card turns with synergies to create more tempo than the sum of the cards played.
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>>150992865
in the fact that your entire deck is based around drawing auctioneer in order to draw the rest of your deck so you have a cancerous combo to 1-2 turn kill people

>>150992993
it is, and it plays very similar to arena.
what do you call tempo mage if not tempo?
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>>150986483
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>>150993265
>in the fact that your entire deck is based around drawing auctioneer in order to draw the rest of your deck so you have a cancerous combo to 1-2 turn kill people
do you know what year it is?
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>>150986483
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>>150993404
the year of cancer combo decks with people thinking miracle rogue takes skill lmao
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>>150993265
except you don't need to draw the auctioneer you mouthbreathing faggot
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Classic mode when.
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>>150993504
leeroy isnt 4 mana any more lad, you can't otk
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>>150991806
Keep it, it isn't great currently, but that might change with Kara.
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In your opinion, which would be the better craft;

Leeroy
N'zoth *i already have sylv and cairne*
Jaraxxas
Fandral
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>>150993754
nisse
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>>150992860
>>150993090
>an attribute of card games is a deck type
this board, man.
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>>150993604
that's why I say 1-2 turn kills because you do leeroy -> cold blood (x2) -> conceal.
add some eviscerates and shivs to the face to draw those with auctioneer and you have 30 damage.
add some saps to remove taunts and you have a cancer combo deck.

>>150993552
>miracle
>not entirely based around auctioneer
pick one you retarded shitlord.
remove it and see how your winrate plummets towards priest's numbers
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80 gold quest NA

xx360noscope11883
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>>150993827
Fuck your bait.

LEARN SOMETHING KIDS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic:_The_Gathering_deck_types

>hurr durr different game
All deck archetypes in card games are based on these you stupid baby.
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>>150993827
>deck that wins through maintaining superior tempo
>not a tempo deck
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>>150993921

xx360noscope#1883

??
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>>150982313
I'm

Ladder is dumb and arena is so fucking unbalanced. I will only log in to clear quests every 3 days in hope that the game will be interesting again sometime in the future

Oh, and I liked playing priest, but fuck you Ben Brode
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>>150993939
>>150993979
>he played Apprentice on 2 and then an Arcane blast! wow what a tempo play!
>he must be playing some kind of tempo deck!

literally just being efficient by maximizing mana usage, a trait of MIDRANGE decks
holy shit, this board man.
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>>150993921

request sent from siegfried#1881
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>>150993858
if it's such a shitty gimmick then the deck should work without it

keep playing your brainless curve deck and losing though retard
>>
I don't even play this game anymore because my favorite classes all got worse and my least favorite class turned into the best class in the game.
But holy. fucking. shit. Purify? Really? Are you fucking kidding me? I always knew the devs were retarded but jesus christ, they're not even trying to pretend anymore. How have the designers not all been fired yet?
>>150994231
Why the hell did they keep arena wild? The best classes are just going to continue to be the best classes for all time and the arena meta will stagnate like crazy. I already didn't really like arena but jesus. They have no idea what they're doing.
And I thought I just liked constructed over limited but I started playing Magic drafts and good god it's like a whole different world. You can actually draft a deck entirely based around synergy and not just a value midrange pile or low curve aggro. Fucking hell you could make mill decks in the draft in triple Shadows.
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>>150994372
it's time to stop posting m8. you had a good run though
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>>150994473
it's a shitty gimmick because it allows even some of the worst players steal wins with a cancerous combo.
you're not some 140 IQ genius for netdecking a 1-2 turn kill combo deck
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>>150986483
Uther, always!
unless for sexy times, then it's Jaina time
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>>150978602
I think I finally understand it guys. I know why this card is bad.
Brode is mocking OCfags. This is his way of sayiing "Yea faggots, don't ask me to print your cards again".

I'm one
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>3 astral communion druids in the last 2 days
Okay which streamer brought this meme back?
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>>150993858
>remove the card that a deck is based around and your winrate plummets
wow, we've got a fucking expert on our hands here
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>>150994536
I know they can't do it like MTG where a whole set is designed to be a draft format, but holy shit, making it with wild cards is fucking dumb as fuck. The best decks will always have the same cards for all eternity
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>>150994779
>making calculated risks based on deck/hand composition as Miracle is "stealing" the win
>but slamming Brann/Shieldbearer is a skillful and tactical way to secure the game in your favor

this is what fedora lords ACTUALLY, TRULY, UNEQUIVOCALLY believe. isn't it sickening how unaware these shitlords are of their own cancerous tendencies?
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Holy shit /hsg/

I fucking did the meme on the last game of my run and won with 2hp
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>>150995150
yeah that's exactly what I said.
that you for helping me prove >>150993552 wrong
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what cards should i cut?
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>>150995403
You're right, but you're still wrong faggot. I can tell you're extremely assblasted at getting destroyed by miracle on ladder and came here to rage about how much of a "gimmick" deck it is. Is every non-midrange deck a gimmick deck?
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Anyone having problems with the Amazon $10 deal.

If your on EU and prices in the store are showing as $12. Go to Manage your content and devices. Change to US. Log out. Clear app data. Log in again and change your country to US again.(Use any address) Check hearthstone prices should be updated to $9.99 for hero potraits and 7 packs.

Just bought Alleria this way.
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>>150995531
Cut arcane giants probably. If your game plan is to draw malygos and combo them down then some of your deck doesn't make sense. It seems like you're trying to be two different things at once, some kind of token midrange deck but also some kind of combo deck. I'd say you should pick one or the other and tune your deck to that strength rather than trying to do a mix of both.
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>>150994779
>it's a shitty gimmick because it allows even some of the worst players steal wins with a cancerous combo.
that's not what a gimmick means cuck, try again. and doesn't any deck i.e. a """""tempo"""""" deck allow the worst players to win at times via a good curve? it will happen even less with miracle in the hands of a bad player because they won't be able to manage their spell usage properly. pic related how is a bad player going to do this?

>you're not some 140 IQ genius for netdecking a 1-2 turn kill combo deck
i do have a 140 iq and i don't netdeck
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>>150995391
but did they actually let you attack, or concede immediately?
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>>150995875
I never got to attack
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>>150995382
>praying for gadgetzan and then drawing your entire deck to get all your cancer combo pieces
>wow so smart I'm a fucking genius
>everyone who disagrees with me plays control
nice meme you got there buddy. there's more to the game than "control" and "your deck"

>>150995545
nah I usually fuck miracle over because they just hero power until they draw gadgetzan like the shitters they are.
I'm just surprised to see people think it's not just a braindead combo deck.

>>150995769
you played questing+auctioneer, played your hand and then played edwin?!? damn that's so skilled you're the only person in the universe who could've played those cards.
you put all your eggs into two baskets and if your opponent points removal at them, you lose. your win condition is your opponent being retarded or having bad cards.
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>>150996328
Yeah, miracle is such a braindead combo deck, unlike the highly skilled midrange decks that a patrician such as yourself enjoys.

What decks do you think require skill to pilot?
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>>150996461
none
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>>150996501
W E W L A D
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>>150980015
Imagine it was a minion, a 5 mana 2/6, fucking horrible. Heck, even at 4 mana, 2/6, still horrible with no special effect. Blessing of Kings works very well with a class that shits out tokens.
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>>150996501
Truly ebin. So I suppose the only thing that sets you apart from rank 1 legend is RNG and how you don't have enough time to play a children's card game, right? :^)
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>>150989694
>depending on how easy Kara is for heroic because I reeeeeeally want that wax seal cardback
if you mean pic related, then that's just for the monthly rank 20 senpai

http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20210377/hearthstone%C2%AE-august-2016-ranked-play-season-an-intriguing-invitation-8-1-2016
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>>150996328
>assravaged control player on SUICIDE WATCH
literally the only people who get pissed about Miracle are control players who sit around and collect cards all game. every other deck archetype has a fair a chance as any vs those filthy Miracle players you are so vehemently against.

try playing Miracle against any aggro deck and tell me how easy it is to win with your ebin cancerous combination xDDD
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>>150996328
>you played questing+auctioneer, played your hand and then played edwin?!? damn that's so skilled you're the only person in the universe who could've played those cards.
the skill is in knowing how to mulligan and knowing how many spells you need to save for auctioneer and how many you need to use for tempo, and knowing when you need to just blow all your spells on a big edwin

>if your opponent points removal at them, you lose
yes if my opponent had naturalize and 2x mulch in hand i may have lost
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>>150996639
the "skill" in hearthstone is in building the deck, knowing basic strategies that matter to all decks and knowing your opponent's deck. mostly the deck-building part, though.
netdecking can make almost any player reach legend with enough time, yes.
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>>150996582
>>150996639
He has a point, especially nowadays. Hearthstone is a really basic, simple card game where linear strategies completely dominate every format. I wouldn't say no deck requires any skill, obviously you need some form of decision making and critical thinking to pilot a deck to its most effective, but compared to other card games it's pretty braindead overall.
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>>150996328
>you put all your eggs into two baskets and if your opponent points removal at them, you lose
this is literally how miracle wins. it's a deck that makes calculated risks, and forces its opponent to have the answer or they lose.

sometimes they do and you lose on the spot, other times you take the game because you made a calculated risk and outplayed them.
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>>150996869
But what sets someone at rank 1000 legend apart from rank 1 legend? RNG, right :^)?

What happens when two people are playing the same deck versus each other? Is skill still a non-factor?

What I'm trying to say here is that you're a fucking shitter and you blame every loss on bad luck or your / your opponents deck, when in reality you're just shit at the game.
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>rank 22 meta
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>>150996710
I have never played control.
CHECKMATE

>>150996731
that's what I said. basic stuff that anyone can perform.

>>150996959
yeah so it's a braindead combo deck that prays their opponent doesn't have an answer to their one win condition
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>>150996665
Oh shit that is fucking great, well, I'm happy. I really wonder what the heroic back will be now though.
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>>150996954
I can agree with you on that one, at least in the current meta all it really takes is a good understanding of how to effectively play zoo to reach high ranks. I would say that's a flaw of the game caused by the developers though, they've intentionally designed their game that way.

Even still, it's ridiculous to insinuate that no deck requires skill to play to achieve success. People underestimate how a small mistake could make the difference between a top tier player and a scrub. A great example is how you position your minions when playing zoo.
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>>150997027
yes, yes and no. do you even have any actual arguments?
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>>150997052
>that's what I said. basic stuff that anyone can perform.
those elements are all missing from your play on curve """""""""'tempo"""""""""" deck, cuck
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>>150997052
>prays their opponent doesn't have an answer to their one win condition

>play control
>pray you have more answers than they have threats

>play midrange
>pray you curve out better than they do

>play aggro
>pray you get enough face damage in before they start dropping big bombs

>play combo
>pray you survive long enough to execute your combo

the skill is in making it happen when your prayers go unanswered. it sounds like you don't enjoy card games and would be happier playing a more skill intensive game.

maybe Overwatch is more your style.
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>>150995762
I dunno man. I usually agree with you on this kind of thing and have said these exact words to someone here before about people just putting new cards into their deck and it being a mish-mash.
But if you think about it, it's essentially Yogg Druid with added Giants because they synergise, with an alternate win condition. The condition doesn't really intrude on the rest of the deck as the only thing you'd cut would be Maly and 2x Moonfires. Which I consider to be almost the same as Leeroy + 2x PO's.
That said, I will suggest some other changes.

>>150995531
It looks like a Yogg deck, so I'd cut the stuff that doesn't synergise with it.

>Barnes
Sounds decent, but is it 'really' worth it? I'd say this card would be almost an exclusive to C'thun warrior. 1/1 Maly might be the dream, but otherwise you're probably going to regret it. Just consider how consistent it would be in the deck.

>The Curator
With all the removal, cycle and stall you have I'm not sure pulling Maly is worth the slot, considering you still have to pay the 9 mana to play it. Probably less worth than running Barnes.

>Moonglade Portal
I like it. But seems like a 1-of. 6 mana is a lot. I'd liken it to running 2 Ancients of War.

>Subs
Honestly, I'd throw in some general Druid cards. They're pretty strong and their cards are dynamic anyway, so you still get a lot of options. Probably taunts just to protect your face from aggro. Druid of Claw and the like.
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>>150997052
>>150997262
Everyone can see how much of a rank 20 faggot this guy is, right?
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I just got this faggot from my 3 pack in a new account. Is Druid with this faggot an even decent deck? I just want to get to rank 5 or so, no need to go full tryhard.
I was looking at this deck and it seems like a decent option for someone starting out:
http://www.icy-veins.com/hearthstone/legendary-druid-beast-midrange-standard-deck
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>>150997306
there are 9 minions in the deck for barnes to pull

5 of them (fandral, bloodmage, teacher x2, maly) are good

if i cut arcane giant and the curator, barnes would basically be guaranteed to be good
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>>150997426
his retardation is nostalgic, it's been years since i've seen someone complain about miracle rogue
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>>150996869
That's not even remotely true. The choice between two different plays can be very subtle and hard to suss out.
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>>150997271
>tempo = playing cards on curve
I laugh every time

>>150997272
Isn't it obvious that I'm just farming (You)s?

>>150997426
>projecting
keep crying about those aggro decks that send shitters like you from rank 19 back to their home in rank 20
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>>150997480
it's broken
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>>150995173
I dunno, I think they could. They could have arena be the latest expansion and the latest adventure. Maybe don't even include basic cards.
That way they could really push synergies >implying the HS devs are competent enough to make good synergy cards in sets and have interesting draft formats that don't just devolve into value piles and turn into a game of who got the better class and cards than me.
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>>150978419
>Saved up 3k gold for newest expansion
>It's fucking shit. No new archtype, no new mechanic, and not even a buff to other archtypes except maybe secret and zoo cancer that didn't need it instead of based pirates.
>Will probably have to spend 3k on that single good card that's located in the last wing

I swear if the next expansion isn't DK class someone is going to get it.
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Elder Scroll Legends when?
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>>150997480
You could always dust it and build zoo if you really want to just reach rank 5, but yeah if you kept it you could make a pretty good deck.

For a new account you might have to substitute a few adventure cards from that deck but otherwise it seems solid.
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>>150997670
I would love in-synergy sets from blizz... but who are we kidding? They can't even come up with a 45 expansion without filling it with filler cards where magic pumps like 4 sets of 200 cards a year
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>>150997686
I've been playing Weebstone instead, it's a lot more fun than HS. The evolve mechanic means you can come back even from pretty crushing early game tempo losses, and there are already way more mechanics and more cards that interact with said mechanics than HS ever had. Of course it has its problems but overall I think it's more interesting and more well balanced than HS. You can actually play control in multiple different classes effectively!
They even have a fucking exile mechanic like any good card game so you can actually deal with deathrattle effects that HS still hasn't implemented after 6 fucking expansions.
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>>150997678
>no new mechanic

Holy shit, I hadn't realized that, man, blizz already is outta ideas, HS really is dead
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>>150997686
but just think of the epic icehowl synergy.
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Are you ready for the next shitfest, /hsg/?
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>>150997480
He's currently my favorite legendary and Druid is probably going to be t1 again, keep him definitely
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>>150997965
There is the murloc beast dragon shit
But this expansion doesn't have any notable mechanic just like naxx or GvG if you don't count spare parts.
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>>150998041
nope I quit the game, switched to elder scrolls legends
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>>150998041
I have high hopes that the actual gameplay of the adventure will be enjoyable. LoE was pretty fun
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>>150997527
Right. But look at the context of it. When you play Barnes etc.
If you play him early, it's like playing a naked Fandral, except it only has 1hp. People would just "nope" the fuck out of the token.
So your choice is to wait and hold him. Which means, you have to find the extra 4 mana for him later when you're trying to play Maly and/or Yogg and possibly Giants.

Also, I wouldn't say Thalnos is a hit from Barnes. Neither is Fandral as you need to pay more mana to get the value, probably the same with Teacher. Because let's face it, a 1/1 with a strong effect 'is' getting killed the next turn.
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>Krazhan comes out
>Everyone is trying out new midrange decks
>People playing beast druid, discard warlock, still playing dragon warrior
>Play freeze mage to farm ladder
>mfw
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>>150997842
Hell, Blizzard can't even get flavor right, let alone synergy
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>>150997665
>>150998119
>>150997727
Thanks dudes. I def liked his effect, seems pretty unique, gues I will start disenchanting every other piece of shit that I don´t plan on using to get that deck. Will report back next week with results.
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>>150997678
>discard synergy
>reno mage cards so i don't have to put in random shit like scarab or flamecaller anymore

im cool with the expansion. then there's support for people that like beast druid and hunter got some good cards.
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>>150998191
You're not supposed to play barnes on turn 4, just like how you dont play thunderbluff valiant on turn 5. If you play it on turn 6 you can Fandral/Teacher+wrath or PotW which is insane value, and if you play it on turn 9 or 10 you have a chance for an instant kill with maly. This chance becomes extremely consistent if more minions are cut from the deck
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>>150998218
everyone will be running eater of secrets to counter the cloaked huntress meta
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>Karazhan
>Medivh's Tower, the Guardian Sorcerer
>Doesn't bring powerful spells or board clears
>RNG Portals
>Still no graveyard support
>Still no enchantments
>Still fucking over arena
>No new mechanics whatsoever
>Pompous Thespian and Pantry Spider
>Purify
>They're unironically printing Menagerie Warden in Tempostone

Nobody is spending money on this, right?
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>>150998649
This might be the first adventure I pass on at release.

I bought the others, because they've all had game changing cards.

All of the Karazan cards seem like they suck.
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>>150998649
>printing
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>>150998649
I'm dropping the entire game.
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>>150998649
>>150998649
Unless it turns out that some shit in the very last wing is broken or game changing or some shit, I probably actually won't be spending money this time.

>captcha: allgood straya
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>>150998814
You know what I meant. It's an old term.
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My amazon credit should be showing up in the next 36 hours or so.

Who I should buy?

Medivh, Magni or Alleria?
(I'm leaning towards Medivh because of the new expansion and the movie)
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>>150998649
>He has't already dropped the game
How did you last this long
Also
>Implying Blizz gives any fucks about flavor
Just as a recent example: of course when you think of a dragon reading a book you think of killing a 3 or less attack creature. Not spell damage or card draw. Nope. Killing 3 attack minions.
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Fucking embarrassed by how few reviewers know how to pronounce "menagerie" desu
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>>150998469
Ok, so let's back it up a bit and reconsider the cuts.
Taking out Giants and Curator? 3 free slots.
Then you need something to do a bit of damage for you so the Maly combo can happen. Mind you, if you want a possible OTK and more token generation, Thaurrisan would be a nice addition. Good removal sponge, too.
I might consider Rag as well because he can do damage as well as being a good pull for Barnes.
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>>150998971
Use that money to play the magic draft at your local store that supports it instead
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>>150993754
nzoth
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have all the new cards been shown yet?
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>>150998649
Not only will I not buy, I will just pass this season all along, this shit is sad
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>>150999353
Yep. That's all of them.
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>>150999353
All the cards have already been spoiled
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>>150999401
>>150999487
really? time for me to kill myself
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>>150999126
>playing card games against autists irl

lol now
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>>150999401
Have any prices been shown yet? Surely they can't charge the same as the others with less cards, especially considering there's no pre-order card back or anything extra?
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>>150999095
rag is probably too slow for a deck with limited boardclear, i just put in some healing instead
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Realistic no meme set ratings

>Druid Cards
10/10 - All good and Warden is insane. Portal may not see a ton of play since I don't think you put that in the Warden deck but it's still not a bad card.

>Hunter Cards
8/10 - Again all good cards and Huntress is potentially crazy.

>Mage Cards
8/10 - All seem very strong, Book is probably the weakest of the 3 but I think it's going to be good and people are underestimating it a bit.

>Paladin Cards
6/10 - Paladin is my main class and honestly I'm not too impressed. Kings is better than Silvermoon Protal, Ivory Knight might see some play in slow Paladin lists but it's boring, Nightbane is the most interesting of the 3 and I really want it to be good but I'm not sure it is.

>Priest Cards
3/10 - Yea they're pretty shit. That said I don't think Priest is necessarily gonna be total shit because they can probably use the new dragon cards pretty well and already have some the best class dragon cards.

>Rogue Cards
4/10 - Look pretty shitty honestly. Fork would be good if it auto equipped the weapon when it died but instead it just give you an over priced firey war axe which you then have to spend more mana to play. Swashburgaler is fine but nothing to write home about. Peddler probably can't be enabled reliably and it's all RNG whether or not you get good stuff to be discounted so that whole style of deck will always be inconsistent.

>Shaman Cards
8/10 - I like the spell power focus and all the cards seem decent.

>Warlock Cards
5/10 - I don't play Warlock very much so maybe I'm not qualified to evaluate them but they don't seem very good.

>Warrior Cards
7/10 - Protect the King is interesting but probably not good, other 2 seems good but they're boring imo.

>Neutral Cards
8/10 - This is why I don't get the hate for this expansion, the neutrals seem really cool. The only duds are Pompous Thespian and Avian Watcher, other than that I'm excited to try all of them and think many will actually be very good.
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>>150999740
just go to hearthpwn
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Gonna do final results in a few.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfim_YnebK_l4FsSAAGuwQQ3VBBdIv5zQ547__87KIhgwr1sQ/viewform
Get in while you can m80
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>>150999816
>Priest worst class in every format
>Gets the shittiest expansion cards
Got seeing all the cards just makes me even more mad about purify. What the fuck?? Why did other classes that don't even need any help get powerful commons?
Fuck Blizzard so much. They have no goddamn idea how to balance at all.
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I'd rather have more hero skins than this shit expansion honestly.
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>>150999773
Yea, it's a shame there's no more Poison Seeds + Explosive Sheep clears.
Anyhow, deck looks good. Post results when it hits.
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So does anyone play the Wild format?
How is it? Is it just overrun with Paladins?
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>>150999816
Portal is 100% going to see play in Yogg druid

a random 6-drop is worth 5.5 mana on average, and 6 healing is worth about 2 mana
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>>150999816
but just think of the memes
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>>150998180
I don't know, even that doesn't seem like much this time around. LoE had those timed encounters which was interesting and new, Kazakhstan doesn't look like it will have anything like that. I had hopes for the chess but what little they showed wasn't all that impressive. I guess the portals in the last wing might be neat but it'll probably just be randomly random your random (split randomly between all your random).
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>>151000295
Nah, it's not all paladin. It's actually a lot more hunter and priest than you would expect. The thing is that there hasn't really been any tempostorm-esque meta snapshot for wild yet, so if you can counter the meta you should just farm ladder. Most people probably play wild for the Nzoth synergy so I've found a lot of success in playing freeze mage.
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>>151000341
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>>151000341
that's such a lame meme though

compare to malygos mind blast, it's just not as interesting
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>>151000340
Beast Druid with Warden will probably be the best list though and that won't run Portal. But yes Portal is a good card.
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>>150998971
Magni cause Garrosh is shit and Medivh isn't that much better than Jaina. Alternatively wait a few months and hope we get Tyrande or Kael'thas.
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>>151000341
but the enemy has to leave the icehowl alive for a turn
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>>151000341
>A worse mind blast + prophet velen that can't even be played on the same turn without thaurissan.
>If you get thaurissan ticks on velen and mindblast you can deal 10 extra damage with another one.
Not even a good priest meme.
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>>151000341
dude you might as well play stonetusk boar, power word tentacles, divine spirit and inner fire
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>>150999816
I honestly think the warlock cards are way better than the warrior cards. None of the warrior cards are really that good or interesting, but the warlock cards are set up to make a discardlock at least somewhat playable.
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>>151000704
>Kael'Thas
I already have Medivh, but my body is ready for Kael.
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>>151000824
>Wanting another mage reskin
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>>151000821
You know, people keep saying the only reason discardlock won't work is because it doesn't have enough synergy.
But honestly I really doubt discardlock will ever work. Not only do you not have a graveyard, but every single discard is RANDOM. I think just the inconsistency that causes will forever haunt the archetype.
It's dumb too because non-random discard is a nice addition to card games that increases skill and decision making overall, and it's always fun making a deck based around that.
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I've saved up 2k dust and I'm thinking of crafting Fandral to make a token druid deck.

Should i do it, or wait for Kara and see if beast druid will be viable and use my dust elsewhere?
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>>151000704
>Magni cause Garrosh is shit
I actually like Garrosh a bit because he's very similar to another character I like in another game

>Medivh isn't that much better than Jaina
Jaina feels like a dead fish without emotions to me

>Alternatively wait a few months and hope we get Tyrande or Kael'thas.
I can't, the Amazon credit expires on the 30th I think
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>>151001049
It will be viable. Trust me.
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>>151001049
Fandral is going to be played in every druid deck, its the best legendary in the game

stop being dumb and craft him already
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>>150999816
Nightbane is pretty good. The minions aren't easily removed and if one of the whelps sticks around it's good to buff with Keeper or Kings.

I think that you have like your Control Paladin and like a Tempo Paladin with dragons coming off of Karazhan. Will Paladin be able to compete with Druid? It does have probably the most effective board clear for Menagerie Warden.
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>>151000704
>Garrosh is shit
epic meme my friend
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>>150999816
Avian Watcher is not a dud.
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>>151001049
Fandral will probably be in every druid deck until it rotates out, so it's really not a bad idea, but it's an even better idea to wait for the expansion to drop to see what the meta's like.

>>151001019
Every discard is random, but the nature of zoo is such that discarding one specific card really won't matter much in the end. Plus, it's not always entirely random. I'm sure there will be situations where you have a doomguard in hand and all you'll be discarding is silverware golem, or you topdeck it with a soulfire in hand, or something like that.

You should never underestimate the power of 1 drops in warlock and cheating cards out for no mana. I think time and time again they've both proven themselves to be extremely powerful.
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Questions about the free credit amazon shit

So I download HS on my phone
Then I download Amazon Underground
Then I link my credit card to it
Then change my account to "1-Click Ordering"
Then I install Hay Day
Then I wait 48 hours and wait for the mail
The mail comes and I unlink my credit card to only use the credit and not real money

Is that it? Or something Im missing
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>>151001049
Fandral is great. Even in a beast druid if you run wrath and power of the wild and raven idol you probably still run fandral.
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>>151001275
he looks like he has fallen asleep
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>>151001084
Wait the amazon credit that you get from that app expires?

>>151001275
>Liking literal crybaby manchild
We already have two other orc heroes that are far better. I also have golden warrior anyways but still run Magni cause he ain't a bitch.
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how does /hsg/ feel about malygos rogue
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Priest won't get good cards again until after there's a Tyrande Whisperwind portrait. Why are there no good shadow priest NPCs?
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>>151001635
>For a limited time, customers who download Hay Day from Amazon Appstore between August 1, 2016 and August 31, 2016 will receive a $10 credit toward purchase of digital content in Amazon Appstore. Only customers who have not previously downloaded Hay Day from Amazon Appstore are eligible for this offer. Please note, it may take up to 48 hours for you to receive an e-mail confirming that the $10 Amazon credit has been applied to your account.

on the 31th actually
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>>151001473
he looks like he's about to control the shit out of you faggot
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Is there any slight small chance that Ben will buff Purify and/or Priest before Karazhan launch?

Don't laugh.
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>>151001709
>one night at karazhan is a huge party
>hardly any cards have any relevance to the catchy trailer

that's a dissapointment
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>>151001892
yes
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>>151001049
Fandral is really good and token druid is a top tier deck right now. If beast druid becomes a thing, Fandral will no doubt be included in it anyway.
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>>151001775
But it says nothing about the credit expiring just that the promotion end August 31.
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>>151001892
There is a minute chance.
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>>151001709
It's my favorite deck but not that good in the current meta full of aggro shamans and warriors. Not having blade flurry really hurt the deck. It's still pretty cool to kill priests from 30 HP tho.
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Literally started playing 2 days ago. Got enough dust from a legendary to construct this. Advice for a scrub on what to change for the future.
Had enough dust for 1 armoursmith so had to stick stealth worgen in there
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>>151002030
oh fuck, you're right
I must have misread it twice because another anon said they were going to expire on the 31th
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>>151002167
you can't have a budget worgen OTK deck

you need to start with a simpler deck that isn't as fragile, like pirate warrior or a shaman deck
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>>151001709
i like normal miracle rogue much more
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>>150996618
It's more like a 5 mana 2/6 with charge. The high health is good since priest has things like the 5-mana yeti that heals 5. It's a good arena card at any rate. It's mostly underrated because of how great Velen's Chosen was.
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>>151002167
You should stop copying decklists from lists that are 1+ years outdated, first of all

people only run 1 rampage, 1 worgen, 1 charge nowadays, with 1 faceless and the pyro/commanding shout combo

seriously though. just copy a list from a website that isnt stuck in the stone age
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Do you think Blizzard have fallen into the trap of restricting powerful cards to "class identities" like in Magic? In Magic Blue is typically strong because the stuff associated with its identity are some of the more powerful options in the game. It feels like Mage and Warrior have that in Hearthstone, whereas the classes that don't have clear identities are all over the place or keep getting weaker.
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>>151002167
Take out twisted worgen, take out armorsmith, put in two taskmasters. You don't really need two rampages, two worgens or two charges, but since you don't have faceless or emperor then it's fine to keep it all in.

Try to get two pyromancers + two commanding shouts whenever you can.
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>>151002429
Much appreciated
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>What the fuck is midrange
>That's just aggro with some big minions

>What the fuck is midrange
>That's just aggro with some big minions

>What the fuck is midrange
>That's just aggro with some big minions

>What the fuck is midrange
>That's just aggro with some big minions

>What the fuck is midrange
>That's just aggro with some big minions

>What the fuck is midrange
>That's just aggro with some big minions

The words of Kripp on his stream right now.
The best arena streamer on the world is baffled that people think that "midrange" exists on HS.

Can /hsg/ finally let the midrange meme end?
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>>151002167
Look at this list

http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/577050-top-100-eu-asia-legend-lokshadow-f2p-otk-warrior
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>>151002651
>The best arena streamer on the world
kek

Does Kripp even have a win rate approaching Hafu/Ratsmah?
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>>151002405
I think the problem is that Blizzard doesn't know how to balance for certain class identities. By the very nature of the Rogue hero power and their classic cards, they will always want to end the game as early as they can. Some kind of combo deck is Rogue's class identity, but the problem is that blizzard doesn't know how to balance for rogue combo decks. They fucked up in classic and then spent the next two expansions, Naxx and GVG, making sure that miracle never saw the light of day again. Notice how in the last 4 or so expansions all rogue has gotten is some "tempo" minions, with perhaps the exception of Xaril.

Druid's class identity is ramping and big minions. They tried to give them cards to this effect in Wotog with Dark Arakkoa and the old gods, but they fucked up and gave them Fandral instead, a card much more suited to a tempo oriented playstyle.
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>>151002651
>Kripp, the master of draft a fast deck and go face mode thinks Midrange and Aggro are the same thing
Big surprise there. He should try playing some Druid or Paladin before he starts talking out his ass
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>>151002836
>Some kind of combo deck is Rogue's class identity
please kill yourself until you die
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>Medivh's staff does not work with Forbidden Healing
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>>151003023
>Spell cost is baseline 0
>WHY DOESN'T IT WORK1!!
Idiot.
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>>151002651
Kripp gets salty as fuck and often just says or makes bizarre plays. Why would he be the authority on this?

Of course midrange is threatening with big minions - midrange is all about dropping bombs in the latter half of the game. The difference is midrange doesn't play like aggro in the early game, and midrange can switch up vs. aggro/control so it can play more control vs. aggro and more aggro vs. control.

If he was talking about beast druid specifically, that looks like a really aggressive midrange deck at best and might just be an aggro/face deck.
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>>151002952
Hmm, let's look at every competitive rogue deck from the beginning of hearthstone until now.
>Miracle
>Oil

backspace rogue doesn't exist
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>>151002952
wow man great post, did you just get raped by valeera by any chance
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>>151003101
Not him, but that kind of affect works on magic at least, because X spells costs are different on the stack

So its another case of blizzard making the game simple affecting its design space
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>>151003170
rogue's strength is tempo, as indicated by cards such as backstab, SI:7 and their hero power which is able to convert their own health into tempo.

>>151003207
no I play her
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>>151003250
It's ridiculous that Hearthstone doesn't have a stack. So many battlecry/deathrattle inconsistencies between cards. It'll never get done though, the game would have to outright break for them to devote the time to fixing it.
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>>150980749
kinda hot, I can't explain why, saving it for later
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>>151003310
oh you're this retard >>150991237

fuck off you're gonna ruin the most fun class so you can play your gay raptor shit
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>>151003023
It works as intended anon
>Spell costs 0
>Spell reads spend all your mana
>It still costs 0
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>>151003356
HS has so many in-game weird shit it baffles me

Battlecry should just outright be enter the battlefield triggers, the fact it triggers on cast before you play the card and some cards after it hits the battlefield confuses the shit out of me
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>>151003459
>rogue should focus on combos because of certain neutral cards
you're the retard here, mate.
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>>151002405
>Blue is typical strong
Nowadays blue is actually not very good compared to the monsters that are white and green.
In standard at least.
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Literally the only thing I've ever wanted out of this expansion.
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>>151003545
>Battlecry should just outright be enter the battlefield triggers
that's already how it works
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>>150999126
>using $10 in android store money to buy real items

????
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>>151003991
Except it doesn't at all, because if battlecries were enter the battlefield triggers they'd trigger even if the creature were just summoned.
In Magic, there are both ETB triggers and there's also casting triggers. Casting triggers happen when you play the card; even if the card gets countered somehow the effect still goes off. This is closer to what battlecries are in HS.
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>>151002651
Kripp is a good arena player when he actually plays the correct way and doesn't do his usual "le greedy epic play", which is to say he isn't that good because he is a really greedy player.
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>>151004189
I think Kripp's kind of a narcissist.
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>>151002651
That IS what Midrange is in Hearthstone.

Midrange is different in MTG, but in Hearthstone it's basically an aggro deck, but they took out a few one drops and put in savanna highmane.
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>>151002651
>watching kripp
>talking him seriously
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would this actually see play? or is purify just so fundemantally shit that theres no salvaging it.
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>>151002651
kripp's right

calling dragon warrior a midrange deck when they curve out a 3/3 charge into two axes in the face into 4/3 charge into 5/3 + 3 damage to face into a 9/9

always ignoring your board

how the fuck is that "midrange"?
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>>151004458
it's quite a waste of a "new card" slot either way
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>>151004458
It'd see play at 1 mana. Not sure at 2. Probably in some decks.
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>>151004508
When the fuck has anyone called Dragon Warrior a midrange deck?
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>>151004458
My brother who's pretty awesome at the game insists that Purify will see play. Says that you can easily base a deck around it in a "Handlock" style.
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>>151004458
I can't think of a single minion under 6 mana (because you could just entomb it at that point) you'd really want to silence as priest now that belcher's out of the meta.
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>>151004613
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>>151003991
ETB would work from "summoning", which doesnt

Blizzard has made every, single, fucking, design point to avoid players to make decisions on your oppp's turn and this made HS a lot worse as a game overall

Some battlecries target or involve decision, so if a shredder would die on a opp's turn and give you like museum curator, the player would've have to make a decision on opp's turn

BUT THATS BAD, WE CANT HAVE THAT, LETS FUCK OUR WHOLE GAME JUST SO PLAYERS CANT TAKE ACTION ON AN OPP'S TURN
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>>151004141
>Casting triggers happen when you play the card; even if the card gets countered somehow the effect still goes off. This is closer to what battlecries are in HS.
what do you mean? a minion such as a twilight drake can die before its battlecry occurs
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>>151004567
Literally all of /hsg/ goes turns into reddit mode with "your post hurts my sensibility" when someone says that Dragon Warrior is aggro instead of midrange.
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>>151004621
I don't think you read that card correctly.
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>>151004697
>>>/r9k/
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>>151004737
That's why I said closer;
They aren't ETB effects because they're triggered from playing the card, not the creature actually entering the battlefield, but they aren't quite cast effects because sometimes they can be stopped. Honestly they're fucking incosistent as hell.
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>>151004758
aggro decks do not run 6-cost minions

dragon warrior is about as much of an "aggro" deck as midrange hunter is
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>>151004907
/hsg/ is too busy spamming priest hero power on their own face in the first 5 turns to see the difference
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>>151004621
bogchamp shaman would not exist if silences were even inconsistently run
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>>151005021
concede shaman is bad because a priest can just mind control->purify your earth elementals
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>>151004758
But Dragon Warrior -is- Midrange. You will lose if you only focus on going face.
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>>151004850
read the post he was responding to, it's an edit
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>>150990479
>>150990635
So what do you think is better? I could probably get the entire adventure with just gold by the time the final wing is released. (1885 gold at the moment) I could buy a lot of packs with the saved up gold. What heroes are the best ones to have? Magni? I was leaning towards hunter since I use it more than warrior and Garrosh seems better suited for scummy OTK warrior than the dwarf.
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>>151004850
You can silence any minion and draw a card, I saw. The silence on this is rarely of much use; while t's still a two-mana cycle, that's shit for a class with Northshires and PW:S.

>>151005021
Again, this is with priest. Shadow word it instead.
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>>151005360
You will run out of Shadow words against Bogchamp. If you can't deal with them without killing them you're in deep shit.
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>>151005763
priest needs playable two and three drops not meme onedrops
I appreciate the effort though
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>>151005184
Even Face Hunter used to clear your minions on turn 1-3.

I've laddered with dragon warrior a ton and you DO go face non-stop against everything except even faster aggro decks (like Shaman).

That's why so many people consider Midrange to be aggro - when playing Midrange you play aggro vs slower decks and 'control' vs faster decks. Since a lot of people like slower decks all they see is charging shit ignoring their slow, shitty early game and going face.

And it's also not about how big your drops are either - aggro shaman runs two 7/7s and two 5/5s ffs.
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>>151005763
cool concept, but 5/4? cmon son
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>>151005996
Yes.
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>>151005846
Actual shit. Whitemane is so clearly the card you would make a 'discover' a minion that has died.
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>>151005996
For most classes, thats just elven archer, for some classes its a do nothing
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>>151005996
worse than the warrior pirate
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Wouldn't purify make more sense if it was:
2 mana "return a friendly minion to your hand. Draw a card" ?

Still removes debuffs and such and lets you get it back on board at full health. It'd also be good with battlecry minions.
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>>151005763

t1 this dude
t2 5/4 for one card

obviously broken. 2for1s with literally every 2drop in the game, will then probably get healed. only current removal that can 1for1 it is stormcrack.

then you just res another the next turn and PW:S it.

I'm all for giving priest usable minions, but try something less ridiculous than +3/+3 and then we can consider the individual trades it would make.
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>>151005901
>Even Face Hunter used to clear your minions on turn 1-3.
Not always.
>And it's also not about how big your drops are either - aggro shaman runs two 7/7s and two 5/5s ffs.
Not always.
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>>151006098
That would make the card EVEN WORSE.
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>>151005996
no, because rouge hero power is shit. it might be broken as a nuetral minion though.
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>>151006105
>t1 this dude
>t2 5/4 for one card
not any more broken than raven into mark, anon. You don't draw a card with it. And it's easy to play around.

The real problem is you can bring the 5/4 back at any point.
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>>151005763

I assume this is supposed to work with Resurrect. would also be hilarious off of Desert Camel.

Does it work with Barnes and Herald Volazj as well? it's a very cool idea but I think the number are wrong. T2 Resurrect would be ridiculous and making Barnes into a 8/8 is just ridiculous
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>>151004881
>They aren't ETB effects because they're triggered from playing the card
magic has had effects with battlecry timing (after creature ETBs, only if the spell was cast) for 14 fucking years you stupid nigger
why are hearthtards incapable of reading the rulebook for their rubbish game
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>>151006245

It free up turn 2 though, I think you're underestimating it.
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>Shitter has Dr. Boom in arena
Stories to tell your friends amirite?
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>>150978949

meanwhile, in Warrior
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>>151006245
>Rogue hero power is shit

Dude...
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>People who pointlessly dump their hand and spend all their mana before conceding
Why
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>>150978949
>>151006682

meanwhile in the Basic set
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>>151006841
You get more xp the more cards you play retard.
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idea for a Rogue card:

5 mana 2/5

restore 1 health to your hero for every spell you have cast this game

yes/no?
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>>151007001
Really? Always seemed time played and victories were the only factors
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>>151006974
yeti that gives card advantage yooo xD

it's broken
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>>151007098
+3 xp for each card played, and +3 xp for each minion killed
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R8

http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/601350-karazhan-thief-rogue

>>151007061
Good idea
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Priest should have a 5 mana version of twisting nether and a 1 mana kill anything card with a downside
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>ben brode will fix priest if you let him creampie your boipucci all day everyday
Will you take it?
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>>151007281
Burgle is a fucking awful card, even in a Burgle deck

also, you need Gadgetzan for cycle
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>>151007252
Where do you even look to see a bar's numbers

>>151007167
As if Blizz gives a shit about keeping minions in line with starter minions
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>>151007372
yes but not because i want to play priest
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>>151007372
Nah, fuck Priest.
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>>151006974

Steal Innervate
win game

I approve, fuck Druid. hell, for that matter, I hope to see t1 Swashburgler stealing Innervate in into Gadgetzan in tournament, someday soon
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>>151006974
Shouldn't that also be classed as a dragon?
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>>151007534
This

Power creep is encouraged by blizz

Plus its a class card
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>>150983307
LoE won't go. 1 adventure and 1 expansion will go each year, at the same time as the (first and only) expansion each year drops, that's it.
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>>151007372
Yes but im hiv postive so im not the only one getting a surprise :^)
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>>151007061
yes but it should be should be armor desu
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Are they adding any new keywords?
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>>151007858
Of course not.
Mechanics are too hard for blizz devs after all.
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>>151007167

yfw Blizz put Dr Boom into the game even though War Golem exists
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>>151007281
I hope Theif Rogue is a thing, but I don't think the correct cards to play will be immediately obvious.
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>>151007721
>yfw druids will purposely not ramp against rogues
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>>151007942
1. dr boom in blatantly overpowered
2. war golem is hilariously bad even for vanilla
3. late game drops are allowed to have stronger effects

its bad oc
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>>151007796
HOW CAN ONE MAN BE SO WRONG

Blackrock, TGT, and LOE are all going at the same time.
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Predictions Results inbound. Just gotta make the image.

Overall, /hsg/ has prematurely rated Karazhan a 2.45/5, compared to WoG, which was a 3.91/5
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>>151008509
Has there been a 5 for us to rate against
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Why is every orc in this game annoying overpowered cancer
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>>151008513
We ain't no retards . I wish we had that tho
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>>151000340
Random 6 drop is 4.4/4.7 average.
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>>151007372
>Implying I care about priest when their gimmick is to literally steal cards

I'd let him if buffs shadow priest or gives me a Tyrande skin.
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>>151007693
Make it 3/4. We've enough on with Totem Golem.
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>>151008617
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>>151008617
because metzen, warcraft movie, china, etc.
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>>151008581
Eh, League of Explorers? I only started doing these prediction polls in WoG. The only way to actually rate an expansion is to compare it to its peers, and LoE is near-universally seen as the best expansion in Hearthstone.
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Would a 0 cost ponder save Priest?
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>>150998880
>>150998880
Lol priest cucks salty af while Druids and casuals love the party.
>anduin didn't get laid in Kara
Literally no one cares what you do blizz and everyone else rightfully hate priest. Enjoy buying the expansion like we know you will
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>>151008617
Rexxar and Thrall used to be respectable.
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>>151008835
What is ponder
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>>151008905
Its like tracking, but instead you don't discard the cards just put them back or shuffle the deck
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WHO'S THAT POKEMON
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>>151008874
>SMOrcxxar used to be respectable
Sure thing anon but shaman was absolute fun before loe
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>>151008837
I don't even play priest, it just seems like the overall card quality is pretty shit. Warrior got garbage cards too, and most of the neutral cards aren't good at all. I mean, I know this is bait, but does it really sound like I'm "salty af"?

By the way, you said "priest cucks" but quoted my post twice.
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>>151008905
A much better tracking

I think Priests viable and respectable out is combo priest, the question is how do you make Inner Fire+Divine Spirit more consistent? Print the effects on bodies? What costs?
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>>151008905
Look at the top 3 cards of your library, put them back in any order, you may shuffle your library. Draw a card.

its banned
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Trump talked to loads of devs/programmers for HS at the party. He just confirmed ON STREAM that the next expansion comes out THIS YEAR.
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>>151008959
GORGE your HATRED, EMBRACE your RAAAAGE
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>>151009126
>He just confirmed ON STREAM that the next expansion comes out THIS YEAR.
We already knew that you fucking faggot.
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>>151009126
Every year until they all get fired is going to be:
>expansion in the spring, adventure in the summer, expansion in the november.
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>>151008997
I was meaning pre-Hearthstone. They were respectable in the Warcraft universe before Brode turned them into shitter-magnets.
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>>151005341
Broken. 1 mana silence friendly or 1 mana silence any.
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>>151009152
I can finally play druid again senpai.
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>>151008997
>SMOrcxxar
hahahahaha epic love this meme
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>>151009417
Best one to open, gj anon
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>>151009081
Not really every card looks like shit until you play it. And yah priest sucks but they're not going to fix it with 3 overpowered cards that's the stupidest fucking idea ever. It'll get fixed next expansion.
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>>151009403
>1 mana silence any
anon..
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>>151009821
"Every card looks bad until you play it" is really just a non-argument. It doesn't attempt to put forth any reason as to why cards that are commonly agreed upon to be bad will be good. Yes, there have been cases of good cards being misjudged, but it's ridiculous to assert that simply because this has happened in the past that every single bad card has some sort of chance of making it.

I don't even care about priest at all. Honestly, I have no desire to play the class. I even think it's kind of funny to hear the priest shitters and redditfags cry to blizz. Priest is rather unfun to play against, so the longer they're out of the meta the happier I am.

I'm not attempting to make some sort of grand statement or protest against blizz in my non-purchasing of Karazhan. It is honestly, truly because a lot of the cards look non-constructed viable. Again, perhaps if there are some cards in the last wing that turn out to be broken then I will purchase it, but as for now I'm happy with the decks I have and I don't see them changing with the new karazhan cards.
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>>151009898
would you play azure drake if it didn't draw a card? of course not
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Is possible to use bluestacks to get the 10 dollars ?
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>>151009417
>tfw I just opened my own Staghelm

feels good my man
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>>151009675
Thanks man, I'm gonna try making a token Druid deck and see how it goes.
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Whose dick do I need to suck to spectate a friend?
Alice#1737
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>>151010232
Lol aight but I mean $20 dollars isn't that much but if u don't want it don't get it. I'm just saying that menagerae bitch and some others are broken and I bet you'll end up
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>vs Garrosh
>vs Garrosh
>vs Thrall
>vs Garrosh
>vs Rexxar
>vs Thrall
>vs Thrall
>vs Garrosh

FUCKING ENOUGH. GOD FUCKING DAMMIT ENOUGH. I AM *SICK* OF THIS META
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So is the $10 Amazon credit thing only for androids?

>inb4 >iphone

yea I know
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>>151010248
Sometimes you need the Spellpower. Having 2-in-1 effects is always more welcome due to flexibility.
Same reason why Thalnos is almost always better than Loot Hoarder and Kobold Geomancer.

If Priest should be known for anything then maybe multifunctional spells can be one of them. (Velen's, Mass Dispel, Entomb, Inner Fire)
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>>151010580
Different anon.

Questions about the free credit amazon shit

So I download HS on my phone
Then I download Amazon Underground
Then I link my credit card to it
Then change my account to "1-Click Ordering"
Then I install Hay Day
Then I wait 48 hours and wait for the mail
The mail comes and I unlink my credit card to only use the credit and not real money

Is that it? Or something Im missing
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>>151010284
It really does. I just made a poor man's version of token druid as I said here >>151010295 and it feels so fucking good to win with it.
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>>150978419
two consecutive adds after aggro babies get shit on by zoo :^)
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>>151010792
>cancer netdeck shitting on another cancer netdeck
Wow. Impressive
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>>151010580
you do know that theres an android emulator, right? or are you just pretending to be retarded?
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>>151009126
it better be the next day after blizzcon or all will jump ship for good now
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>>150982493

>c'thun, c'thun, c'thun
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>>150978419
>Malchezaar's Imp has a discard effect
>Malchezaar himself doesn't

nice game
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>>151010376
The worst part is there are three different fucking warrior decks that completely shitstomp every other deck and even then you have to guess if they run two brawls or gorehowl.
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>>151010880
I know you can use Bluestacks but I guess I have to install movile HS using bluestacks as well to be able to use credit there right?
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>>151010995
Malchezaar is a collector with a huge stash, his imps find him new shit when it breaks/expires
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Hearthstone needs more and better spell damage minions
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>>151004613

The only way Purify would see play if Priest had a 4 mana 9/9 minion with the effect "this minion has 0 atk"
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>>151011048

The even worse part is why this allowed to go on for so long. It's a fucking virtual game. We can have patches every fucking month if needed to end this shit. But no.

Priest could be fixed fucking tomorrow with some fine tuning to shit he already has. It frustrates me so fucking much how much potential this game has and how blizzard squanders it
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>>151010995
Why would a demon boss do the same things as his imp? Do you drink out of the toilet like your dog?
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So Brode keeps talking about Unicorn priest deck, that nobody discovered so far. What is it?


Also this Hearsthone devs replies about the game about the expansion and priest are pretty hilarious. Shows, that they have no clue on how to balance the game:

https://twitter.com/IksarHS/with_replies
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Let's see how right you are in a few weeks, /hsg/.
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>>151011462
i feed my dog and take him on walks
i would hope malchezaar does literally anything to help his imps or acknowledge their existence, but no, the imps are just fucking around somewhere completely divorced from malchezaar's routine
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>>151011468
>That isn't to say we pick a couple classes every set and say "These will be the OP classes this set".

Does this guy even play the game lmao
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very very very VERY fun game :D!
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>>151011760
Full ratings:

>5

Kindly Grandmother - 4.19
Cloaked Huntress - 4.17
Menagerie Warden - 4.08

>4

Barnes - 3.94
Arcane Giant - 3.81
The Curator - 3.69
Enchanted Raven - 3.66
Firelands Portal - 3.61
Netherspite Historian - 3.56
Swashburglar - 3.56
Moonglade Portal - 3.53
Medivh’s Valet - 3.47
Malchezaar’s Imp - 3.42
Nightbane Templar - 3.42
Medivh, the Guardian - 3.36
Violet Illusionist - 3.17
Fool’s Bane - 3.14
Silverware Golem - 3.06
Cat Trick - 3.03
Spirit Claws - 3.03
Zoobot - 3

>3

Book Wyrm - 2.97
Maelstrom Portal - 2.97
Avian Watcher - 2.92
Babbling Book - 2.81
Ivory Knight - 2.69
Menagerie Magician - 2.69
Moat Lurker - 2.69
Priest of the Feast - 2.64
Protect the King! - 2.64
Ethereal Peddler - 2.56
Onyx Bishop - 2.56
Deadly Fork - 2.47
Kara Kazham! - 2.47
Prince Malchezaar - 2.36
Ironforge Portal - 2.33
Wicked Witchdoctor - 2.28
Arcane Anomaly - 2.26
Silvermoon Portal - 2.25
Arcanosmith - 2.22
Runic Egg - 2.17
Pantry Spider - 2.14

>2

Pompous Thespian - 1.81
Moroes - 1.56
Purify - 1.38

>1

Overall - 2.45/5
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>>151011760
where did you get these numbers from
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>>151011760
arcane giant boys ww@
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>>151011894
Held a poll for the thread to answer. Anons had to rate a card on a scale of 1-5. Predictions for WoG were pretty spot-on save stuff like Darkshire Councilman and others, so I'm curious to see how these'll turn out.
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>>151011767
He makes sure the dumb imps don't fatigue him with discard shenanigans
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>>151011979
can you link the results
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>>151011760
>tfw just want to meme this expansion
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>yfw high tier Secret/Control Mage soon
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Iksar (Blizzard Game Designer) finally commented on Purify:

>In smaller sets, it can be a little risky to take a gamble on a new toolkit because there are fewer cards to work with. In the case of Priest, we were pretty happy with the amount of options the class was getting from neutral (Barnes, Curator*, Medivh, Dragon Cards) to do some testing with a new archetype that Purify could be a part of. In my mind there is some positive to the outcry over Purify because I think people will definitely try it out and report any successes/failures/stories they had building and playing a 'silence your own stuff' priest.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/4wjqq1/please_make_separate_design_and_balance_teams/d685jgw

Thoughts?
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>>151011760
>Cloaked huntress
>Above Menagerie Warden
>Above Barnes

I guess /hsg/ really is shit at rating cards.
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>>151011760
>implying arcane anomaly + coin + pw: shield isn't going to be the new meta
baka desu senpai
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>>151011857
priest not even once
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>yfw high tier Secret Mage
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>>151012053
http://pastebin.com/LAXr4gHm

The best part of these is that the top-rated card's rating is "4.77". It's like it was meant to be.

>>151012110
You can bet your ass off that all the "bad press" Purify is getting will assuredly make absolute madmen try the card out, much like Herald Volazj and Astral Communion before it.

I'm in the "it's terrible but won't be surprised if it's amazing in literally one deck" camp.
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>>151012110
>stories

HERE WE GO WITH THE SAME BULLSHIT AGAIN
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>>151012219

Who cares about Priest, look at that Warrior bullshit. How's that allowed.
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>>151011979
are you fucking retarded? You could at least make a poll for the people that have reached legend. 70% of /hsg/ are shitters down to their core.
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>>151011760
>arcane golem, historian in best
>anomaly, thesipain in worst

so this just concludes that only shieldbearers of /hsg/ participate in these stupid polls. no wonder there is so much vocal priest love here
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>>151012387
shut up nigger arcane giant is the best card in the game
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>>151012110

Ah, I love it when they vomit a bunch of words and end up saying nothing.

All that wordplay bullshit boils down to "try it and see"
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>>151011760
anyone that thinks that arcane anomaly and ironforge portal are bad are brain damaged
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>>151012387

I'm putting that golem in my maly rogue deck, fuck off lad.
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"Barnes/Curator/Medivh impact the long game for CPriests"

"Looking forward to see if experiments with Onyx Bishop are interesting enough for players to play, and how"

https://twitter.com/IksarHS/with_replies


Why don't they just admit, that they fucked up and buff old (priest)class cards or nerf OP cards?
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>>151012110
>https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/4wjqq1/please_make_separate_design_and_balance_teams/d685jgw

wow
incredible
amazing
spectacular
somehow reddit is even more retarded than /hsg/
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>>151012263
Some highlights of this list:

>Princess Huhuran over Ancient Shieldbearer
>Cyclopian Horror that high
>Bilfin Tidehunter that low
>Forbidden Healing that low
>Carrion Grub seen as one of the bottom-tier cards

>>151012349
K. Why don't you do that.

>>151012387
Whatever you say man.
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>>151012242
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>>151012349
>You could at least make a poll for the people that have reached legend
while i will acknowledge that objectively considered, the people who have reached legend are probably a pool of people with no significant bias, I resent the idea that I have to make the garbage crawl from 5 to legend before my opinions get to count
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>>151012219
He won that game
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>>151012110
Does Blizzard actually think this response is going to be accepted by anyone?

The community is literally melting down and they're saying "what a good discussion we're having :) i'm glad everyone is talking about the card :) now everyone will try the card and we can get some cool STORIES from it :)".

It's literally like going up to someone that's angry/distressed and telling them to "just calm down :)".
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>>151012565
Because Priest hero power is heal 2.
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>>151012565
>Why don't they just admit, that they fucked up and buff old (priest)class cards or nerf OP cards?

HAHAAHHAHAAHAHAAH
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>>151012786
>It's literally like going up to someone that's angry/distressed and telling them to "just calm down :)".
Yeah it's like trying to have a rational discussion with a screaming baby.
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>>151012110
STORIES
T
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R
I
E
S
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>>151012565
Nearly every single nerf Blizzard has doled out involves denying that there is a problem for several months on end and that their statistics show otherwise before effectively removing the card from the game.

Blizzard will never admit they were wrong.

>>151012581
To be fair, Bilefin is a victim of the success of ghoul. It did see a bit of play early in the release, being a 2 drop that fucks with axe while having juggler/wolf synergy is fairly good.

But yeah, it's garbo now.
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>>151012579

At least they don't keep talking how good everything is, that Blizzard does, like they did in the last few expansions.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/4wlsml/when_did_attaching_spells_to_minions_become_a/

https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/4wkr87/the_development_of_hearthstone_has_been_terrible/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1W8SVWIhJ8&feature=youtu.be

https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/4wkr87/the_development_of_hearthstone_has_been_terrible/

https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/4wlxs5/seriously_why_is_the_hearthstone_dev_team_so_bad/

https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/4wn0nb/for_a_good_chuckle_compare_herald_volazj_to/
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>>151012891
SILENCE YOUR MINIONS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>151012110
S T O R I E S
T
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>>151012110
>stories
Every time
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>>150978602
Purify is a good card
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>>151012786
>community melting down

nope, just a vocial minority of priestfags

>new players hate priests
>experienced player hate priests

literally just reddit and some clowns on twith/youtube looking for easy views give a shit
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>>151012110

We could actually make a Hearthstone bingo

>stories
>unicorn
>neutral cards will solve problem XY
>excuses
>new card revealed is "creature + spell"
>new card revealed "spell + creature"
>new card revealed "summons multiple creatures"
>HAHHAHAHAH
>Arena is fine
>Mage is fine
>Shaman is balanced
>Rogue gets le tricky steale card
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>every streamer does a card review
>20 card reviews
>all are atleast 1h long

The game is so fucking stale that people rather watch players rate the new cards than play the game.
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>>151013340

Nigga, I fucking despise priest and still acknowledged how hard he got fucked over. It's the whole picture really. Warrior, Hunter and Shaman got great to overpowered bullshit, Rogue, Paladin and Priest got trash and/or gimmicks that force them into a role.

The way this game is handled depresses me.
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>>151013559
>hurr durr game is stale and people want to talk the new cards days before the new cards come out
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>>151013340
reddit
official forums
hearthpwn and every other fan site
every non-streamer pro player, like thijs
every streamer, like kripp (200k views per video)

if you seriously think this isn't a big deal for blizzard to have the #1 hearthstone fansite / community figures shit-talking their game non-stop, you're deluded
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>>151013559
Well, that's true almost always. Most people would rather watch streamers play the game than play it themselves. Usually either because the streamers are better than them, the streamers play decks that they don't have / can't play, or both.
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Is it finally time for Blizzard to admit that Firey War Axe, Execute and Shield Slam are all horribly overpowered?
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>>151013778

There's more, watching the game is comfy, playing is an RNG shitshow.
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>>151013518
>That name
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>>151013808
Shhhhhh, Blizzard dindu nuffin and will never admit to any mistake they commit
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>>151013808

Here I fixed it.
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>>151013808

Execute is a problem cause Warrior has fucking 400 ways to ping making deleting anything at anytime both a breeze AND cheap. I don't even have to explain shield slam.
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>>151013778
I like watching Kripp to laugh at his salt, because I know if I play the game I will get salty, so I just bi-pass that step
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>>151012349
That's not the fucking point.

It's not to get an accurate prediction, it's to see how right or wrong this place is.
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>>151013808
>>151014002
I like how Warrior had so many amazing base cards, and got so many great/amazing cards over the various expansions it lead us to this moment; where Warrior having like 5 different decks in Tier 1.
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>>151013808
Every class deserves overpowered cards, but blizz fucked up. Warrior's overpowered cards are in the evergreen classic set, but a lot of Priest and Paladin's overpowered cards came from expansions that have rotated out. Even if it may not be high in the meta, control warrior will always exist simply because the entire core of the deck is from evergreen cards.

It's kind of a conundrum. If blizz keeps printing overpowered cards for classes whose power doesn't derive from their classic cards, then it might fuck up the wild meta. But if they don't print them new overpowered cards, you might end up with another Priest, where their deathlords and velens chosens rotate out, leaving them fucked.
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How exactly do I get C'Thun if I haven't logged in over 6 months?
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>>151013728
and yet it still will be the number one card game. who gives a shit what 1% of the community thinks
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>>151014315
Just get a whispers pack, it'll come with it.
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why is tracking a bad card/not played?

>>151014315
you'll always get him and 2 of his guys from opening your first wog pack
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>>151014315
Buy 1 WoTG pack.
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>>151013967
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>>151014392
>he's not even trying
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>>151014463
friendly minion*
go fix it
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>>151014463
Thats worded wrong, it should be friendly minion
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>>151014481
>can't refute, better post a picture

i guess that's better than realizing you guys (people who take a casual card game seriously) are a huge minority
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>tfw bought Medivh with the 10 dollar credit
Thanks senpai
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>>151014513
My bad, dude.
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>>151014481
All the Priest crying will amount to nothing and be forgotten by next weekend.
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Wait, you can craft Grim Patron now? I thought he was a reward?
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>>151014804
>10$ credit
Explain further.
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>>151014804

Why's his hand so small?
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>>151014891
Because he's a child?
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>>151014830
Don't forget to draw a card.
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>>151014872
You can dust the old expansion cards, or something along those lines. I know for sure that naxx is all craftable because you can't buy it anymore, but I'm not sure about the other adventure cards.
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>>151014306
Reminder that a typical rogue deck has 27 classic cards
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>>151014392
Explain why Blizzard hosts Hearthstone tournaments, fireside gatherings, etc. with prize money when "all they care about are the casuals!!"

No casual gives a shit about competitive HS.
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>>151014854
At least A dev is trying to respond people, instead of fucking Ben Brode and his happy magical land where his team never commits any mistake
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>>151014889
You should read the OP for once in your worthless life
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>>150985938

That's not what a "narrow" card is you fucking doofus dick.

If you're gonna run a meme deck that actually relies on getting Deathwing off of Barnes then it would be infinitely preferable to just run Silence, since Silence can actually make SOME impact on the enemy board occasionally and also allows you to do your Barnes into Deathwing meme combo on turn 4, preventing the opponent from pinging away the 1/1 Deathwing and fucking the entire point of the deck.
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>>151015067
Getting this reaction out of you makes it all worth it.
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Taking bets. Will Unearthed Raptor + Moat Lurker
1.) Do nothing whatsoever
2.) Resummon a copy of the destroyed minion
3.) Crash the game due to Blizzard's incompetence
4.) Other
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>>151014854
It's not just Priests, it's pretty much everyone over the entire state of Hearthstone.

WoTG pretty much gave us the worst and least interactive meta possibly ever. Like Patron Warrior, Secret Paladin and Miracle Rogue were more fun then this shit. Half the decks play an Old God at turn 10, and end the game one way or another right there. And the other half are just Warrior decks that no matter what, still involve War Axe/Execute.

And Kharazan is so fucking mediocre that it's gonna change nothing, we have more endless months of this shit.
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>>151014938
Obviously I'm garbage at balance.
How about now?
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>>151014306
compromise:
keep printing cards for control/midrange paladin, fuck wild, it can rot
don't print cards for priest because anduin is a little fuccboi who deserves to be raped by the niggers he learned entomb from
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>>151014973
Yeah, rogue is another class that derives most of its power from the classic set. Certainly Tomb Pillager is a really big deal in the viability of auctioneer-based rogue decks, but rogue has never really relied on expansion cards (except for maybe oil) for viability the same way that priest does.
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Anyone have a picture with all the cards? pic related, the best card in the set
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>>151015138
Now we're talking
t. Brode
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>>151015138
Could you just post the imgur album from reddit you got these cards from?
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>>151015115
Moat Lurker has no deathrattle, so my bet's on 1. Do nothing.
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>>151015165
>pic related, the best card in the set
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8 mana 5/8 legendary

Card text : Can ignore taunts?

y/n?
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>>151015246
Are we talking about the same card?
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>>151014996
>good press
>remind people the game still exists
>advertising

pick any. it's not like they're spending any real money hosting those events. comparable to hot-dog eating contests
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>>151015327
That card makes me hard
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>>151015115
resummon id think
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>>151015308

So, if opponent doesn't have a taunt its a 8 mana card with boulder ogre?
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>>151015115

It'll probably resummon another moat
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>>151015327
My mistake dude. I was thinking of something else.

In that case, I think it'll work.
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Anyone else feel like the introduction of the old gods completely ruined control decks? Before, most control decks had separate win conditions, even aside from simple removing all of your minions or outlasting / healing an aggro deck. With warrior it was grom combo, with priest it was entombs, with handlock it was Jaraxxus, molten giants or even arcane golem combo.

But the old gods turn your control deck into a psudo-midrange deck and simplify deckbuilding. I'm playing N'zoth control? Well, guess I better include Sylvanas, cairne, etc. Playing C'thun control? Guess I need all these generic curve minions and twin emps. I feel like it's all just another way blizz has reduced their game to >muh minion interactions
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i like this card
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>>151015327
So, its HS take on Fiend Hunter?
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>>151015476
the fuck does that have anything to do with boulderfist ogre?
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>>151015372
>good press
>advertising

ok

now what sort of press do you think it is when every fan site, pro and streamer shits on your game so hard that it even reaches casual havens like the general 'games' reddit?

if they're willing to go to that much effort to host tournaments for good press, they'll give a shit about this fuck up
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>>151015476
>>151015629

Boulderfist ogre stats, I deleted it for some reason
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>Get into game after friends pester me forever
>Play some games to get a feel for it
>Get high enough level to have some basic cards
>Try to make a well rounded deck while consulting google for which cards are efficient
>Start playing against other players
>Just get cheesed by gimmick decks with cards cards that seem broken as shit
>Question how anyone can enjoy this game where the only card that matters is your credit card.
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>>151014463
Reminds me of a card I thought of today.
It's pretty funny that Priest is on fire right now so you can make broken shit and no one would bat an eye

This card would be balanced if it was deal 1 for every 2, but Blizz knows their fans are math retarded. See: Molten Giant nerf
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>>151015680
but boulderfist is 6/7?
are you ok?
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>>151015583
Fiend Hunter is a LOT better than Moat Lurker. Besides the fact that it's cheaper and has a more respectable body, in Hearthstone as a game minions are just much easier to kill since you can attack into other minions.
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>>151015698

F2P was only viable for the people who started playing in the first six months or so after release. Nowadays new players have to pay with real shekels to catch up. Blizz really needs to introduce some kind of new player discount package if they ever want to grow their player base.
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>>151015698
>only card that matters is your credit card
Better players than you have easily reached legend while spending nothing. Granted, you've just started the game, but you should accept that it's your unfamiliarity with this game that is causing you to lose rather than how much money you've spent.
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>>151015747
It still has 13 points worth of stats, I just stated myself wrong. Basically you're overpaying 2 for a legendary card that may have upside, but mostly won't
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>>151015074
>That's not what a "narrow" card is you fucking doofus dick.
That is EXACTLY what a narrow card is. EXACTLY.
>If you're gonna run a meme deck that actually relies on getting Deathwing off of Barnes then it would be infinitely preferable to just run Silence, since Silence can actually make SOME impact on the enemy board occasionally and also allows you to do your Barnes into Deathwing meme combo on turn 4, preventing the opponent from pinging away the 1/1 Deathwing and fucking the entire point of the deck.
You're playing combo. 4 copies of a combo piece is better than 2. A combo piece that cantrips has lots of inherent value. Spending a 0 mana card to halfway deal with a minion is not very good, so the thing you can't do with Purify is the worst thing Silence does in a combo deck based around silencing your own shit.
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>>151015702
You could use this in Reno Priest to one-shot your opponent, assuming Blizzard stopped being retarded and actually made their cards do what they say they do.

Yes, I'm mad about the fact that Molten Giant's card text literally lies to you about what it does.
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>>151015327
I want to play with this as a slow reincarnate in nzoth shaman
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>>151015138
here we go
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>>151015648
that's why the game died with TGT, right? because some faggots looking for attention (toast, noxious) had big old leave threads about the state of the game. plus, bitching and complaining is the only thing reddit is for. even casuals know that and don't care. that's why league is still the most popular game and people still glorify gabe.
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>>151015771
I know, and HS is filled with pesky as fuck deathrattles

If it isn't involved with some combo, Moat Lurker will mostly just skip your turn and heal your opponents minion to full health
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Does anyone have the play a friend quest on EU? I have been getting nothing but 40 g's lately and i wont be able to buy the first shitty wing on release day
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You can do Moat Lurker on your own minions, guys. You have a sylvanas out, use Moat Lurker to trigger it, you get it back later. Seems reasonable in a N'Zoth deck.
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>>151015880
>one-shot your opponent
It says deal damage to a minion
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>>151015880
I remember when I learned that lesson
>about to play giant
>heal myself first because why not
>giant cost goes up and i cant play it
>concede in anger
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>>151016072
Think bigger anon. You are supposed to use it on the Wrathguard that dropped out of their Shredder.
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>>151015991
Fuck off beggar.
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>>151015971
Your opponents minion was probably already at full health.

They kill the moaty on the next turn. The minion comes back, but it sleeps.

Assuming you didn't do it to a deathrattle, you've functionally played a 3/3 Frost Elemental.
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>>151015971
Well, I would agree with you but you can Moat Lurker your own minion. Moat Lurker is going to be completely shit for years until the exact moment they print some retarded-ass combo at which point Wild becomes Moat Lurker the format.
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>>151016057
Priest player here, that is basically the Volajz

I thought "Oh shit, I will play a powerful deathrattlem then play Volajz next turn and have a copy of the deathrattle"

I don't have Volajz in my deck

Moat Lurker is also 6 mana, so it makes it very clumky for that to work, because any big deathrattle doesn't survive the turn he is played
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>>151016178
have you ever had a 20cm beggar dick in your ass faggot?
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>>151016198
>>151015971
>using it on your opponent's minion
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>>151016057
Seems just like another greedy combo for Nzoth decks although it should be somewhat consistent because most of the time people tend to ignore sylvanas because nobody plays silence anymore. But it's still slow as heck, might see play as a one-off in nzoth renolock.
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should have made moat lurker 3 mana. it'd be the rebirth of bgh
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>want to play a control rogue with thistle teas, lurkers and assassinate
>no neutral/rogue healing
EBIN CARD DESIGN
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>>151016357
except totally different
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>>151016357
Because of BGH we will never have a cheap minion act as removal ever again

Most of HS removal sucks and will probably continue sucking forever, because apparently its unfun having low costed unconditional removal on a game with 4 mana 7/7s
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>>151016057
I'm still wondering who gets the Sylvanas when you use it on your opponent's Sylv.

It just says "Resummon it." on the card, so that would mean it gives it back to the original owner.
But since Sylvanas steals minions on death, the owner of the Murker could flip, causing it to summon it back for the Murker owner.
Meaning that the Murker is actually the "owner" of whatever he kills, and whoever owns the Murker gets the minion back.
Which would require decks to run Silence to stop high tempo resummons since that means Murker actually resummons for the owner of Murker
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>>151016475
HS wording its a fricking mess, thats why in Mtg cards blatantly states "owner's control"
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>>150978419
>all these Karazhan cards are underwhelming as all fuck and are in no way a strict upgrade or interesting pick at all
One night in development indeed.
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I hope the Barnes and druid card aren't trapped in the last wing of this adventure. the less gold I have to waste the better
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>>151016443
Use the earthen ring farseer shadowstep wombo combo
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>>151016475
In my opinion, "resummon it" would mean that it's summoned on the side of the board that it died on. Regardless of who controls the Lurker.
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>>151016686
I agree with this.
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>>151016597
>implying they didn't print shit cards like Purify and Moroes purposely to jam them in the first few wings in order to force you to buy more wings for the cards that are actually worth anything

KEK
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>>151016852
They absolutely are going to do so.

These adventures are such a ripoff for new players.
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>>151015327
How does this combo with N'Zoth? N'Zoth usually doesn't take situational deathrattles like that
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Fuck, why would they ever print Moroes? Like seriously, could they not come up with a fucking better or more original idea?

>Alright team, we need some exciting legendaries for our new adventure. Karazhan was loved by everyone who played wow, so we've got a lot to live up to here.
>Alright, get this - It's a 1/1, with stealth...
>Yeah?
>And it summons another 1/1 at the end of your turn.
>
>
>
>Genius.
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>>151016938
Because Sylvanas or chums will die twice. Meaning you get 2 when you play N'zoth.
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>>151016979
I like it allot. Trying it in aggro SoD pally
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>>151016979
>Lets print a 1/1 in the age of Ravaging ghoul!
Absolutely retarded.

However I still want to at least try and dick around with him in a darkshire paladin deck.
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>>151016938
It's probably bad in Nzoth. I mean you can activate your deathrattle whenever and get a second minion with playing Nzoth but at the same time it's really slow and you dilute the pool of spawned deathrattle by Nzoth.
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>>151017021
>>151017070
I meant, does Moat lurker get brought back with the orignal deathrattle it spawned with? Because usually N'Zoth brings back cards as though they were pulled fresh out of a deck.
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>>151017054
and Competitive Spirit.
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>>151016979
should have been two mana or be a 1/2 for 3. this is just catering to aggro decks since they'd be least able to deal with it
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>>151017130
Its deathrattle probably doesn't do anything, remembering with which minion it died in it would be too complex for hearthstone.
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>>151017130
I could be retarded but him relying on his battlecry to get the death-rattle activation I'm assuming he just hits the board as a vanilla 3/3 because he didn't kill anything TO deathrattle on this activation.
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>>151017047
Literally you would be better off playing imp master. It has more health and better synergy with kings.

>>151017170
Fuck, it's not even good versus aggro decks. Just imagine paladin hero powering for 3 turns vs an aggro deck. It doesn't do anything. They'll just kill you.
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>>151017130
Oh. That's interesting.
I think it might because it's deathrattle is tied to the minion it killed (unlike Raptor that copies card text), so you play N'Zoth, get 2 Sylvanas' and a Moat Lurker. Then the Lurker dies and brings another Sylvanas.
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>>151016597
>>151016852

Moroes is wing 1
Purify is wing ???
Barnes is wing 2
Enchatned Raven is wing 1
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>>151017223
The difference is after the 3 you spend you aren't spending those other 2 turns popping that hero power for 2. Couple that with the end of turn activation its as if you did the pally hero twice in that turn.

I'm not saying its a great or good card, its an okay card that will see a shitload more play if Warriors didn't dominate the brackets.
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>>151016105
And the worst part is that what actually happens has no relation to what is written on the card. They need to take a lesson from Wizards in formatting.
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>>151016979
I still can't believe are saying Moroes is shitty. He's probably one of the best cards printed for Zoolock and it makes me sick.

With a card like this your opponent can actually hold back and not extend into board because Moroes will just keep pumping out dudes for Darkshire Councilman and Knife Juggler, all while keeping their other, more high impact cards in hand to vomit out after the inevitable AoE this card forces.

Warrior is probably the only exception because they have a lot of ways to Whirlwind, but a lot of other classes/decks are just fucked otherwise. Tempo Mage might be the only other exception because of random damage from Flamewanker
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>>151017332
It would not even see play if warriors were garbage. Every single deck on ladder with the possible exception of aggro shaman lists that don't run lightning storm can clear it. Even if it lives for 3-4 turns, have you really gotten that much value from it? I honestly think moroes is contender for the worst card in the game.
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>>151017631
Screencap this
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>>151017631
I know you're just trolling so that shitter zoo players include that garbage card in your deck and you faceroll them, but if you actually believe that you're retarded.
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>>151017631
You're an actual retard if you think Zoo is going to play a card that needs 4+ turns to get value. Although to be honest I don't even know why im responding to a Rank 15 player
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What is this shit anyone want it? Furion #11155.
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Where's the new thread?
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>>151017682
Your hyperbole is astounding. It is in now way shape or form the worst card in the game. Its a combo card, with darkshire or SOJ or anything that buffs 1/1's it gets dramatically better, doubly so if you buff him yourself.

He's a greedy card that if it sticks the value goes up tremendously in the right decks.
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>>151017836
Added on Zimbabwe
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>>151017836
are you on eu or na?
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>>151017902
But the thing is I can't think of a single reason to actually run any of those combos. You're better off including almost anything else in your deck. Why not just play justicar? Why not play some deathrattles + n'zoth? Why not just run a bunch of aggro minions and kill your opponent? Why do you have to include a 3 mana 1/1 that takes 4 turns to get "value" from?
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>>151017917
Look at the time.
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>>151017756
>>151017767
Obviously not a keep vs Aggro but as a 1 of it really fucks up the matchup vs slow decks.
Generating constant pressure for 0 mana is nothing to scoff at when your opponent has limited resources.
It's like upgraded Paladin's power killing your opponent by 1000 cuts

I could see it being a 1-of replacment for Forbidden Ritual if we ever get a control meta and there's a deck looking to break it.

I'm just mad at the concept
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>>151018127
>>151018127
>>151018127

new
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>>151017978
2 turns, it takes 2 turns for it to make it worth the buy in. Its not great in the current decks but there is no reason it won't be fantastic in token decks.
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>>151018163
3 mana summon 3 1/1s is not good on its own.
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>>151018229
No shit? Which is why I said it will be great in combo decks.
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>>151018265
You can't say it takes 2 turns for it to be worth it when extremely specific circumstances are required for it to be worth it after 2 turns, even with decks that have a lot of synergy for it.
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>>151018338
Its still worth it after 3, free 1/1's are still free 1/1s.

Just because you personally don't like the card doens't mean its shit.
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>>151018140
You know what else is good against slow decks?

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