Hearthstone General - /hsg/

I'll take my purify deck to legend 1.

You'll see.

>>151018127
Watch Blizz print a lot of overstated negative ability minions next expac to try to prove us wrong.

>>151018224
that implies people are gonna stick around for the next expansion. Literally everyone i know has quit and i just finish quests once a day

>>151018127
HOLY SHIT I HATE THEM SO FUCKING MUCH.
I don't even play priest and I hope that it will stay shit forever, but when they do moronic remarks like that or that unicorn priest meme I'm literally boiling with rage. Can't they just admit their mistakes and try to get better like an adult would?

Can we all stop and imagine just how fucking awful the next year of Standard is going to be with just LoE, WoTG, Kara and a new expansion?

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>What the fuck is midrange
>That's just aggro with some big minions

>What the fuck is midrange
>That's just aggro with some big minions

>What the fuck is midrange
>That's just aggro with some big minions

>What the fuck is midrange
>That's just aggro with some big minions

>What the fuck is midrange
>That's just aggro with some big minions

>What the fuck is midrange
>That's just aggro with some big minions

The words of Kripp on his stream, when question what he thought of the "midrange" meta.
The best arena streamer on the world is baffled that people think that "midrange" exists on Hearthstone.

Can /hsg/ finally let the midrange meme end?

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Xth for emotional balancing decisions.

So what game are you playing til blizzard learns good game design?

>>151018332
Can't you fucking retards read? LoE is out of next rotation. OUT. O U T. Stop making shit up. And there's gonna be at least another expansion in the next rotation.

>>151018432
Corruption of Champions

>>151018343
Kripp is a fucking retard and that's further proof of that.

>>151018432
I'm still playing hs, but shadowverse is neat.

>>151018432
Just go back to drafting mtg

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>>151018432
Theres a private l2 interlude server opening september so there that for me. As for card games i tried Magic Duels and im so fucking upset. Magic is great but holy shit is Duels complete shit. You cant craft cards you want. You have to open like 100 packs for every set to get every card. You cant even buy specific cards and of course some of the cards are not even in the game. I want to play Magic on a good online platform but holy shit they are making it hard

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Iksar confirms that Purify will give you

STORIES
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to tell your friends.

>>151018224
Judging by all the comments they've made regarding the game and how the community aren't good enough to come up with viable decks while they're sitting on secret hidden OP deck lists, I'm sure that's the sort of thing they'd do.

They'll print some retarded 1 mana 1/1 gain +6+6 while silenced or some bullshit just to be like "haHA!! We told you Priest was good".

>>151018534
>mobile exclusive games
Why is this faggotry allowed?

What does Iksar mean when they say purify is undervalued?

Do they mean it's actually better than it seems _now_, or do they mean it's going to be better in the future when they print new cards specifically to work with it?

The first seems crazy - literally no one thinks this card will be good.
The second seems like a completely pointless statement - how can anyone predict how good a card will be when combo'd with future, yet-to-be-added cards? Using that logic every card in the game is amazing.

>>151018703
Damage control over an adventure who's cards weren't thought about at all.

Kara is literally the laziest shit I have ever seen in a card game.
>What should we do for our 3rd adventure?
>hmmm, we could add a new mechanic or address the current meta and how stale it is?
>Nah lets just add a bunch of cards that have "random" in the keyword and no new mechanics!

>>151018703
it means that Iksar is a fucking moron who tests new cards against Shieldbearers

>>151018703
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>>151018836
I'm convinced that blizz playtesting is just the designers playing meme decks versus other meme decks, and seeing how it "feels". If some crazy RNG shit happens or it just generally turns out to be a clown fiesta, then that's a well designed card. But if one player executes a well thought out strategy that wins them the game, that card's no fun. They said that they added in fucking Hemet as a counter to a deck that arose versus playtesting, so I'm pretty sure I'm right here.

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>>151018825
>Someone got paid to come up with this trash

>>151018950
they DO use meme decks, just look at the decks that they use in card reveal streams

>>151018432
TES: Legends. It's like Hearthstone and MtG had hot sex and gave birth to a beautiful Aryan baby.

>45 card adventure that has to keep the game interesting
>90% of the cards are unplayable trash and 50% of the card set has the keyword random
If it wasnt for the Warcraft lore and the Blizzard tag people would leave in droves

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U ready for new memes.

>>151018651
I don't love duels, but their format is a lot better than HS, I have been playing old gods since its launch and I'm nowhere near completing its collecting, while on duels I completed the set collection around 1 month playing it here and there

>>151018950
I think the same.
I hear them often say they're looking for "fun" things in the game. But when I see the streams and shit, it's decks that will never be played that just has all the new cards in with "kek crazy rng stuffs".
I'm not fully against rng in the game, it can be hilarious. But having completely unbelievable scenarios with unrealistic decks during testing just leads to... ... Purify.

>>151018127
When did Iksar become such an idiot? Did they just slowly convert him over time?

>>151019072
>CANT EVEN CRAFT SPECIFIC CARDS
trash

>>151019071
Yogg N' Load hunter is now viable

you can play huntress+LnL for 5 mana and potentially get 2-4 cards for free

Ive been living the meme in FNM with this combo deck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ0xrPji4AU

Extremely fun and every time im playing it im having a blast. Tried duels and they dont even have all the cards from all the sets. Like what the fuck? Why even make a magic game without all the cards? Fucking dropped on the spot

>>151019292
I'm going to be laughing my ass off at every hunter who tries doing this and basically passes turn 5.

I don't get it. What happened to Iksar? He got #1 legend in the first ever season of Hearthstone (with aggro warlock). Then he emailed Mike "there must always be a 9th class" Donais and got a job as a balance designer.

Did he just forget how the game works since then? He must've known the realities of ladder once. Did his soul get sucked out in 2 years, and now he can only speak shitty PR?

i haven't played since like January and came back today to find none of my decks work anymore.

did goblins vs gnomes really trigger people so much they made an entirely separate game mode for it? like fucking why?

>>151019617
HUEUAHUEHAHAHA

>>151019617
Just play wild faggot. Literally what do you have to complain about.

>>151019617
I don't think they introduced standard because GvG triggered people but because they are too stupid to think about long term design. So they just remove older sets open design space.
Which isn't really used as we see in Kara

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>tfw no Velen
This is pretty fun though. Nobody expects 20+ damage from hand. The new 5-mana healer and the Embrace the Shadows really makes this decent. Since there are so many activators, you can afford to spend some on the board without worrying about giving up your win condition.

What do you guys think? Rank 9, 8-2.

Purify

>>151019826
If you're skilled at piloting it you should fly to around rank 5 easy, but expect to hit a roadblock from rank 5 to legend. Skill will only take you so far when your deck has bad matchups vs a lot of ladder.

>>151018432
Shadowverse is fun. I hope it gets new and good cards soon.

>>151018690
It's not actually mobile exclusive, they're just releasing the PC version later than the mobile version. Steam has already greenlit it.

In the meantime most people are just emulating.

>>151018651
>you have to open like 100 packs for every card in the game
That's incredibly easy though, 100 packs won't get you shit in Hearthstone and Duels even lets you beat the piss easy AI to get your daily gold.

What pisses me off about Duels is the cards that get excluded (IE everything that gives mana) and the rarity limits. Also the entire game is slow as fuck (not even talking about the mandatory waits for instants and stack resolution).

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>>151019487
>going +3 at most, +2 on average and creating a body and semi locked field
>passing turn

senpai......

>>151020408
having a 3/4, a freezing trap, an explosive trap, and the new trap on board is fucking shit in the current meta. A Shaman likely has 2 4 mana 7/7s and 2 0 mana 8/8s on board by then

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>>151020408
>+2 on average

We can all agree that this brawl was the best thing to do all those annoying quests right?

>>151018278
You and your "friends" who "quit" don't matter.

>>151020535
No because it isn't fun at all. Would rather have one with a stipulation on deck creation to make things interesting.

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>>151020285
REEEEEEEEE HEARTHSTONE DEVS RESIGN I'M NEVER FUCKING BUYING A BLIZZARD PRODUCT AGAIN THIS GAME IS SHIT WORST EXPANSION EVER REEEEEEEE

>this is how assblasted priestfags are

Can anyone confirm if the $10 amazon credit still works for Hay Day?

>>151020720
I am from ukraine and can confirm that I got 10$
twice desu lol
I asked the support after like 24 hours, they delivered, and now they credited another 10 moni

>>151019292

>now viable

It's always been pretty viable friend.

>>151020946
Iksar, is that you? Meme Hunter is tier 4 at best, it's barely better than Priest

>>151021013

It does great against minion decks, which most decks are these days.

>deck full of clear
>refill cards
>win with CoTWs and Hero Power
>yogg for combacks/big finishes

If you don't think Yogg and Load isn't a deck you can climb with you are retarded.

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Hearthstone adventures ain't free. The game gotta be litterd with the blood of priest players. Anduin Wryn aka Anduin Cryn is not my king. he is a dragon lover and probably orc supporter as well. Jaina and magic not Anduin and headache. My magik will tear you down.

>>151021142
>t. rank 11

>>151021142
By "viable" I mean "tournament worthy". You can get to Legend with any deck, that doesn't mean shit. No one runs LnL hunter or Priest in tournies for a good reason, because they are hot garbage

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>>151021246

>"tournament worthy"

You mean all the tournaments you and I don't play in that have little bearing on ladder, the place we do play in?

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>>151021423
>he doesn't play in open tournaments
>he thinks his opinion means anything

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>>151021246
your mother is hot garbage too but i still run her over the bedroom every night

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Jesus fucking christ Zetalot.

>>151021142
Post proof of legend.

>>151018127
>Try out elder scrolls
Hey this is pretty fun

>>151021423
Nice projection, kiddo. Have fun at rank 10.

>>151021451
>generic priest autitst

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>>151021451
I don't get it??

It seems like you'll actually be able to wreck shit without needing any of the cards in this expansion so I'm thinking I'll try to give it a miss. What are the biggest things I'll be missing out on besides the potential golden age of dragon paladin?

>>151021451
Fuck, I remember when twitch started doing that shit. Do they really have to be such fucking Jews that they analyze your vods for copyrighted music? Like, is it really that big of a deal?

>>151021565
Most of the recording is muted because copyrighted music was playing during the stream.

>>151021639
>Do they really have to be such fucking Jews that they analyze your vods for copyrighted music? Like, is it really that big of a deal?
It's not about twitch being Jews but more about them covering their own asses so they don't get sued into bankruptcy.

>>151021625
Nah, dragon paladin won't be any better, at least not from the 3 drop. It's just a conditionally better razorfen hunter. Anyone who compares it to muster doesn't understand why muster was good.

What you'll really be missing out on is barnes and that druid beast shit.

>>151021625
Silence priest

>>151021463
hearthstone is for babbies if you haven't reached rank 1 legend you know nothing about how cards interact

>>151021625
Dragon Paladin will not be a good deck, don't kid yourself

You're missing out on Beast Druid, potential Malygos shenanigans, Beast/Dragon/Murloc Zoo, Control Pally, Control Mage, possibly a few others

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CANT WAKE UP

so, will beast druid become a thing?

>>151021625
>Turn 5 play Tiger
>Turn 6 summon 10/10 worth of stats, plus stealth on one body

That

>>151021936
There's no chance it doesn't become a thing. Blizz literally willed this deck into existence just by throwing druid some overpowered cards.

Is this blizzard's design strategy? Try to push beast druid for a couple of expansions by giving it some not bad standalone cards and decent synergy, and then when players don't make the decks you want just give them overpowered cards?

So who here
>wild only
After this standard rotates out?

>>151021998
Everyone is jerking themselves off over how powerful tiger into warden will be, but won't druid of the claw just be straight up better? I don't see why you would run an underpowered card when you have a perfectly fine and better alternative.

>>151022071
i ll quit before i reach that point

>>151021936
No, for decks to become viable they need and unbeatable curve, beast druid so far has a 'decent' curve

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>kripp makes a video calling blizzard fucking retards and says they've irredeemably tarnished their reputation

>blizzard's response: "thanks!"

are blizzard devs robots? normal humans do not act like this

>>151022162
Druid contests both Trogg and Totem golem with raven into mark, the only earlygame card they have trouble with is the 7/7

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>>151022184
maybe hes being sarcastic? or ironic?

idk they are all weird.... besides jeff

>>151019826
maybe replace thorisan with justiciar, since you will be able to ping-control the board while using big "heals" on face

>>151022184
Nah, it's just the sign of someone who is incredibly triggered. Whenever someone starts acting ironically friendly or thankful after they've basically been insulted then you know they're just mad.

>>151022071
>not playing wild already
You're missing out, lads

>>151022279
look at this man. Feeled with passion and check out the innovation flowing from his aura. Truly a hopeful future ahead

>>151022184
Because despite what you're lead to believe they actually listen to [criticism] and [change] things

>>151020393
>In the meantime most people are just emulating.
Witch emulator is usable?

>>151022336
Jokes on you ive been brewing murloc reno nzoth paladin for months now
Its only getting stronger, especially since you only need to run 3 murlocs and 2 anyfin to ensure 32 damage from hand

>>151022362
yeah, maybe theyll do to Purify what they did to Undertaker and Warsong Commander

ignore all criticism for six months and then change the card into something random that no one wants to play

>>151018519
"midrange" shaman is literally face shaman + thing from below and maybe a hex

>>151022457
>murloc reno nzoth paladin
I know for a fact that murloc nzoth paladin can work, but why would you make that a reno deck? Paladin is one of the worst classes for reno - you leave yourself with only 1 equality. Besides, you already have double forbidden healing and lay on hands, AND rag lightlord.

???

>>151022184
I watched the video and a 4mana 4/5 that you can play on turn 2 is really good, people forget that minions have to wait a turn before attacking so it's not really a problem

>>151022071
Why, what is it you're just not able to deal with losing

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Im 100% positive that if he bring even a single member of the Magic team like Maro and give him a week. He will be able to make a fucking amasing expansion for Hearthstone. Meanwhile, team 5 delivers this trash after 4 months of free time

>>151022694
I still don't get why WotC is so bad at making a mtg video game.

>>151022440
Bluestacks is the best visually but can be slow/resource hog. Nox runs fast but has visual bugs. Every emu has seems to have an issue where the app can crash in the middle of a match if you play for more than a couple hours without restarting it.

>>151022838
i have no fucking clue man. I would switch immediatly if they released a good online platform. Its like they have a 9/10 product and when they try to transfer it to an online platform it goes down to 5/10

>>151022838
There is no reason to when the neckbeards buy physical cards for thousands of dollars.

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Did anyone else have trouble trying to install Hearthstone through the Amazon underground app? It downloads fine, then when im installing, it finishes with "App not installed".
Anyone else get this?

Why are you still playing shitstone over TES Legends?

>>151022156
They're probably focused on Hunter.

>>151023043

>playing f2p RNG stone
>playing p2w even more unbalanced TES

You tell me.

>coin 2 mana 3/3 charge
>2 mana 3/3 charge
>blood ichor, axe
>ghould execute

Should I just stop fighting and craft a dragon warrior?

>>151023043
I'm just here to shitpost about Karazam.

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>>151023049
But it's a druid class card????

>>151022156
It's probably because Tiger has stealth and is thus near guaranteed to stay on board bar brawl. If people know you'll be going claw into warden they'll construct their decks to remove whatever it is you would play on the turn prior.

>>151022625
you can already do that with Silence

no one does it because it's a 2 card combo which is fucking stupid/impossible to try to assemble by TURN 2

have you played dragon priest? do you know how often you get whelp or agent in your opening hand, but no dragon? now consider this: that's a 2 card combo, and one part of the combo is ANY of your 8+ dragons

how often do you think you're going to get watcher + silence/purify? almost never

now what happens if you get watcher by itself? it does nothing, a dead card
silence by itself? nothing
purify by itself? can't even cycle it, does nothing

ok now lets imagine the PERFECT curve for purify priest - you get watcher + purify in the mulligan

priest turn 2: watcher
shaman turn 2: totem golem

priest turn 3: purify, trade <can't heal due to only 1 mana left>
shaman turn 3: trogg, lightning bolt or lava-shock, trogg (or replace trogg with argent squire)

amazing, your hard to assemble 2 card combo killed one totem golem vs a standard shaman curve

same applies to warrior, except add in an execute or waraxe charge

>>151018127
Who /excited for the expansion and doesn't give a shit about priest/ here?

Literally only priest is getting bad cards and everyone is freaking out. Are there really that many priest shitters out there?

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This touches on something I feel is not expressed and talked about often enough in the Hearthstone community - the fact that not only are RNG cards frustrating to deal with, for both the person playing them (if it goes badly) and the person on the receiving end (if it goes well) - but also that when it comes to designing cards, RNG is a crutch, and in most cases unbelievably fucking lazy, yet Blizzard continue to get away with it. Many of the most RNG cards are also the most boring cards in existence in HS. Things like Flame Juggler and Spellslinger.. they took an RNG effect and slapped it on a minion that already exists without changing the cost since "RNG is RNG". That is so unbelievably uninspired and lazy that I can't believe there hasn't already been massive outcry over it.

>>151022625
You know what is a stronger opener?

Trogg into Golem.
Except trogg and golem are good cards by themselves.

Watcher is 2 mana do nothing without silence.
You can't even play purify without a minion on board.

Priest did not need another two card combo when the class already is desperately clinging to auchenai circle to live past turn 4.

An innervated yeti is not stronger than auchenai circle.

>>151022156
>DotC gets removed
>You're left with a 6 mana 5/5
>Meanwhile a stealthed Tiger is almost impossibile to remove and has garanteed value

Don't get me wrong, both DotC and Tiger will be played and cloned, but Tiger is just garanteed value. Plus it's not a bad minion, Hunter runs it even now.

>>151023180
>2016
>not playing the best zoo version that has ever existed in hearthstone

It's secret paladin tier.

>>151022625
I swear to god this game has the dumbest players

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>>151023359
Nice try Brode. Now try and justify the shit cards that Rogue and Paladin got. Cant do it? How about the bladefury nerf that limited design space? Can you do that? Im never spending money on your product Ben. Off yourself

>>151023462
voidcaller zoo was better

Old "midrange" Hunter, back when it had early game cancer like leper and creepers, was literally just the face variety, but with 2 highmanes instead of 2 charging 3/1s. "Midrange" Shaman right now is literally just aggro shaman with thing from below, they don't even fucking play fire elemental, at most they'll play thunderbluff it they're running the full totem cancer suite.

The only true midrange deck in this game's history is Paladin, because Paladin as a class has always been forced to play the board due to the lack of reach and burst from hand. Every other deck that claims midmeme status is just the aggro deck + 2 of the overpowered 5 or 6 drop class minions that are too hard to remove, or do too much damage (doomguard, highmane,thing from below, and soon menagerie warden).

>>151023503
Paladin got 1 good card, 1 slight above average card, and 1 bad card

Rogue got 1 good card,1 okay card, and 1 shit tier card

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From reading all these Blizzard responses I'm starting to get worried.

What if Purify really is good? What if we're all wrong? It's happened before with Patron.

I don't think I could handle the level of smug Blizzard would reach if Purify Priest ends up top tier.

>>151023603
>midrange CANNOT be aggressive
k

>>151023603
Here here.

>>151023359
all of the other cards don't look that great, guess we will just have to wait and see

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>>151023043
Legends doesn't have a single card like this one.

>>151023618
Name the good card Paladin got and let me laugh at your rank. Name the good card Rogue got too while you are at it. Im eagerly awaiting to laugh at you. While we are at it name a good card Shaman/Warlock got this expansion. Go on love

>>151023375
You can tell which minions are being pushed and which aren't simply by their statlines.

RNG effects for some reason are costed at almost 0 mana. Flame Juggler and Huge Toad are fully stated 2 drops despite doing extra damage off their entry/death.
A controllable Battlecry equivalent would be something like a 2/2 or similar.
That is a bias in favour of RNG.

>>151023680
>Buzzard unleash is a powerful combo, but you can play around it by not playing many minions.
>Undertaker is strong, but we don't feel it is an issue.
>We have no plans to nerf Doctor Boom
>We are carefully monitoring patron warrior and do not feel it is too strong.
>We wanted paladin secrets to be played more, guess we overdid it. No changes needed though.
>Druid combo is not oppressive to the game

Yeah, I guess they were right about these too.

>>151023603
Midrange hunter never had leper gnomes faggot, you're thinking of hybrid hunter.

>>151023758
The other guy is a faggot but you're a faggot too, faggot. Ivory knight isn't bad, rogues did get shit because pirate rogue is a meme and warlocks got the 1 drop. Also, that weapon doesn't seem bad for shaman.

>>151023680
by being worried you just showed us how much of a shitter you are. Faggots like you at the target audience of Blizzard. Now go on and preorder the expansion like the good sheep you are

>>151023680
They might genuinely expect it to be good. The card isn't strong as it should be, but the problem is most of the people criticizing the card are completely belligerent about it, making it impossible for Blizzard to take them seriously.

>>151023881
I have 4k gold I don't need to preorder

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Hopefully the next Adventure isnt complete shit

Epic Journeys & Random Encounters would be the best adventure, Monara could be the protagonist.

>oral wing
>anal wing
>vaginal wing
>triple pen wing

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>>151023680
The thing is, silence is easier to read compared to what Patron was capable of. Everyone knew Patron could be Whirlwinded and spammed. They just didn't see the Frothing + Warsong potential when coupled with 5 Patrons.
Purify is simply a silence, and it's best case scenario is a singular big minion a little earlier than normal. But it's a 2 card combo and both cards on their own are dead cards.

>>151023618
The only good cards of the adventure are Druid and Hunter exclusive. Everything else is a meme, a gimmick, or just more mediocre shit.

Who the fuck thinks a conditional Razorfen Hunter is good? a 4/4 for 6 that will heal you for 1 over 50% of the time? A piece of shit +2/+2 buff on the most competitive mana slot for Paladin?

Don't even get me started on the memes Rogue got.

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>>151023850
>Ivory Knight isnt bad
>rng 1 drop is good
>discard warlock has potential even though its completly random
your opinion goes here

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>>151023850
The Shaman weapon is either unusable shit or game winning off a 1/4 dice roll.
Really wish they hired people who knew how to make balanced cards.

>>151018196
I am calling it now, someone will make a priest with purify and make it to legend

>>151023987
>hurr discard is random how could the deck be good
>i don't understand how zoo works at all

>>151024007
Yeah, I would say that's just another example of bad design this expansion

>>151024009
Priest players can't even make it to legend without purify, how do you expect them to make it by adding two dead cards to their deck?

>>151024009
i predict that 2 days from now you will still be a fucking idiot. Wanna bet whose prediction will come true?

>>151024009
**Some streamer will put 2 copies of it in his deck and win by never drawing/playing Purify in a meaningful situation

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>>151023043
Literally the exact same shit.

>>151024007
>>151024070
You guys are just simpletons who can't see beyond basic interactions

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>>151022981
Please respond.

>>151023971
Hahahaha Pirates!
Hahahaha Deathrattles!
Hahahaha Priest's failed mechanic!

Why does blizzard hate rogue so much?

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>Control Mages will be good

>>151018127
So Priest's gonna get a 0 mana 3/4 can't attack or what? That's the only way I can see Purify being playable at 2 mana.

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>the best card Paladin gets is an unintended neutral meme 1 drop that they probably put no thought into and a dragon kodo
Every fucking time, neutrals are our only hope. Class cards are just made to push the cancer they want to push, and only unintentional neutrals can escape their forced meta.

Divine Strength was already an almost playable card, it just needed a little push. Now that there's 2 good 1 neutral 1 drops for Paladin, there's no doubt the combination of these can make a decent tier 3 or 2 divine favor deck. It's not dragon warrior, but at least it's not a slow unplayable meme like n'zoth paladin in its current state.

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>>151024317
>no neutral healing
>Control mage good

>>151024317
2 mana 2/3 with a Frostbolt attached
5 mana 4/7 taunt
4 mana card that instantly plays Antonidas or Ragnaros for you

it wont be top tier, but it got some decent tools

>>151024324
Blizzard only knows how to buff a class by mass printing overstatted minions.
You can bet your ass that blizzard isn't going to admit purify was a terrible card, so instead we'll see something stupid like a 1 mana 6/6 can't attack as a bandaid solution.

>>151024420
>2 mana 2/3 with a Frostbolt attached
If you don't play it turn 2. In which case the two mana don't matter and the statline is terrible.

>>151024264
Rogues are a cancer class by design to be quite honest. I'm the one you replied too, and Rogue without a doubt is my least favourite class in the game. The amount of tempo and draw the class has in a tempo centric game is disgusting. The class is literally 1 good anti aggro card away from running away with it.

here comes dat burgle rogue
oh shit, concede

>>151024483
Rogues are pretty much like Priests, Blizzard is incredibly wary of giving them good stuff, because if they become the top dog everyone's having a miserable time.

>>151024483
if rogue had
>>151018252
they would be top tier

>>151024420
>5 mana 4/7
Unplayable trash.

>>151024468
Freeze Mage can afford to wait, and it can always be used as burn if not removal. It's a really good card out of the gate, and can only get better when secrets become more playable.

>>151024264
Rogue has had their time in the sun for years.

>>151024206
Better back up what you say before you spew shit.
Hearthstone doesn't have any interactions that aren't basic anymore.
There isn't anything notable to say about the actual Spirit Claws besides it has more synergy with Bloodmage Thalnos or a 1/7 off Tuskarr Totemic.
The most complex thing to ever come out of the game was Patron Warrior and Blizz killed it

>>151024354
Arcane anomaly is a terrible card.

Stop living in some fantasy wonderland where you always have anomaly coin spell on 1. I would rather play divine strength on a 1/3, because at least the 1/3 is a good card on its own and doesn't require coin.

Blizzard has already proven that they hate this game with One Night in Development. What's your excuse for continuing to play it, anons?

>>151022021
In fact, yes. Read the interview with Mike Donais, he called it "build around" approach. They throw casuals a huge bone so they feel like genius deckbuilders.

>>151024442
What they need is to give us a 2 mana 3/6 version of Blademaster.

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>>151024654
i play for the dank memes

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>>151018252
Given the mana cost i would make it heal 2. Then it becomes a great card that pushes control rogue. It wont be op because it is unusable and slow in miracle. This is a card that rogue needs. Instead we get a fork ... go figure

>>151024570
>>151024618
Blizz is just shit at balancing rogue. They fucked up with gatgetzan in classic and spent the first two expansions nerfing miracle to the ground, then spent the rest of the expansions giving them maybe 1 or 2 playable cards each set.

>>151024589
>Unplayable trash.
>what is druid of the claw

>>151024724
Blizz is shit at balancing everything, in all of their games

>>151024645
It's a 1 drop that can be 3/5 in a deck focused on shitting your hand. Name a single better 1 drop divine favor decks can play that aren't squires or abusive.

Selfless Hero is just a bad aggro card, it's worthless as long as Ghoul is a thing.

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>>151024483
>The amount of tempo and draw the class has in a tempo centric game is disgusting.

>T1
Pass
>T2
Hero power pass
>T3
Play a vanilla 3/3

So much tempo.

Rogue is extremely reliant on getting backstab or starting with coin, it cannot remotely handle any form of early game without them. Coinflip classes can never be consistently good in curve stone.

Should I skip this adventure altogether? Raven is the only good card and it's free in the prologue.

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Which meme is the dream?

>>151024795
>cloaked huntress that high

>>151024827
leeroy might help you close out a lot of games with seal of champions

>>151024753
>What is druid of the claw
An unconditional 4/6 taunt beast as opposed to a conditional (relying on a 3 mana card to be played beforehand without popping, ie only iceblock). Also, Druid of the Claw can charge and be a guaranteed 4 face damage minimum or removal.

Fuck off with your false equivalences retard.

>>151024827
leeroy

>>151024778
At least they're trying to stay on top in Overwatch. The level of communication for that game is actually kinda impressive.

>>151024795
Lower the rank of Kindly grandmother remove Arcane giant swashburglar Portal raven and Curator then its pretty good. Arena should no be taken into considaration

>>151024827
>heartharena

Nah, just trolling, I've got no problem with it. You should pick Alex__

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>>151024785
CAN be. It won't remotely be that often. Not only do you need two specific cards on turn 1, but you also need to 50/50 coin.

This is a 2/5 that doesn't require coin, your point?

>>151022542
Midrange shaman compared to face shaman:
- abusive sergeants
- sir finley
- flame juggler
- lava burst
- argent horserider
- flamewreathed faceless
+ hex
+ lightning storm
+ thunder bluff valiant
+ thing from below
+ fire elemental

That's a lot of change considering it's Shaman

>>151024824
>raven is the only good card
this is b8

>>151024921
These aren't "my" ratings; they're aggregate taken from anons.

>>151024935
its the average /hsg/ poster actually. They cant seem to grasp that root and innervate make Raven terrible

>>151022867
Thanks

>>151024929
The coin is just 1 fucking health, why are you so fixated on it? Anamoly is 3/5 without coin if you're first.

>>151024930
Lava bursts aren't run in most aggro shamans. Flamewreathed faceless are run in most midrange shamans. Things from below are run in most aggro shamans. Fire elementals aren't run in most mid range shamans.

>>151024930
>- flamewreathed faceless
lol

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>>151025006
This is a 3/5 TAUNT if you demonfire it.

Amazing.

>>151024981
I mean, that card is still ok in beast druid, but saying this is the only good card when things like Menagerie Warden and Barnes exist is just retarded.

>>151025045
Move those goalposts nigger.

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>>151025045
>Lava bursts aren't run in most aggro shamans

>>151025006
Meant 3/4* was thinking of Priest's 2/5. Either way, 3 attack is infinitely more valuable in this meta of troggs, mana wyrms, void callers, and awoo taunts.

>>151025095
This isn't in a class that has divine favor, or lacks any good 1 drops, or lacks good ladder decks. Are naturally this retarded or do you practice it?

>>151025045
>Fire elementals aren't run in most mid range shamans.
>used to be considered one of the best minions in the game
>no longer makes the cut
Really makes you think.

>>151025045
>Fire Elementals aren't run in most midrange shamans
Not true, probably one of the best cards of the list.

>>151024930
Some MDR Shammies run Flame Juggler, most run Flamewreathed Faceless.

Al'Akir is a meme, but good, pick; at least one Master of Evolution is solid and will save your ass, Mana Tide Totem (probably just one) is run, and if you're feeling frisky a Stormcrack is thrown in.

There's a world of difference between MDR Shammy and Aggro Shammy. Funny thing is that I find Mistcaller, of all things, to be an excellent choice in a Control or slower-than-average-tempo ladder environment. You start dropping threats every turn, big and small, that your opponent has to deal with or else they're hyper-synergize with eachother into a beast of a board that can't be won outside of Brawl.

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>>151024930
>- lava burst
>- flamewreathed faceless
just /hsg/ things

>>151025274
Literally no decent midrange shaman decklist runs lava burst

>>151024795
Anomaly is underrated

>>151025170
Not him, didn't even read the previous conversation, I was just pointing out you are going by decklists no one uses
>>151025170
correct, they aren't
>>151025234
It's in some decks, but most still don't run it, because it's too slow

>>151025080
>http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-investigates-4-mana-77-good/

stop acting like you know anything child

>taking out 4-mana 7/7 from your deck
>ever
what the fuck am I reading

>>151025326
I totally agree I don't get why people aren't looking at the big picture of that card in Yogg Druid or Tempo Mage.

>>151025274
Lava Burst is pretty common in aggro shaman lists, no one runs it in midrange shaman.
Flamewreathed faceless is still run in most midrange shaman decks, but some have started dropping it because many classes can deal with it easily.

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>>151025234
>MISTCALLER
He's on a fucking roll, he just won't stop. Please, for the love of god post rank, I need the laugh.

>>151018127
Do I have to create an account and/or install hearthstone through amazon to get the $10 credit?

>>151024795

>arcanosmith is bad

Damn son, it's literally a turn 4 tuskar that always drops a 0/5 taunt.

>>151025380
It's not the same person, bro

>>151025356
Holy shit go back to plebbit you fucking beginner.

Why is it all retards today?

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>>151025436
hes going all out

>>151025364
Aggro paladin would love 1 drop that grows with divine favor and friendly buffs cast on any minion

>>151024354

p good with power world shield too. priest is back!

>>151025364
Why the fuck would yogg druid or tempo mage use a one drop that is worse than their class one drops.

>>151025356
>play against midrange hunter
>play 4 7/7
>he just deadly shots it for 3
>play against warrior
>play 4 7/7
>gets executed for 1
>play against warlock
>play 4 7/7
>he just POs and abusives something to kill it or makes you hit 1/1 taunts with your 7/7
It's not that good a card when the meta adapts.

>>151025441
>Why is it all retards today?

they've been pouring in since the card reveals. shieldbearers who havent played since the second week of whispers.

So what happens if blizzard ups the cost of individual wings to 800 gold

>>151025380
It's 14 right now, on a losing streak from 13 because Token Druid is a cruel mistress.

I really do think that Mistcaller in that particular environment or even a tournament setting where decks like C'thun Warrior and N'zoth Paladin are popular is a pretty good card. Makes a bunch of "build your board" cards pack a bit of a punch that does build up over time.

Naturally you'll have the unstoppable Zoo/[insert aggro/tempo deck here] matchups, but whaddaya gonna do, That's Hearthstone.

Also if you're implying I'm the guy who's saying "remove 477" you're mistaken. It's probably the stupidest thing ANY Shaman could ever do.

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>>151025489
>wasting your pw:shield + coin on anything other than pyro
How many shieldbearers are in this godamn general holy fuck

>>151025419
have or make a amazon account
uninstall hearthstone from android
download amazon underground app on android
log into amazon account
install hayday from app
install hearthstone app
wait 1-2 days
go into ingame store and buy something, while on hearthsone you donwloaded from amazon on your phone

>>151025598
Thanks

>>151025489
Don't fucking take that tone with me you little cunt. I'll bash yer head in m8 swear on me fucking mum.

The card is underrated, it's not meta defining by any means, but it's as good as squire in certain decks. It has serious potential in tempo mage, buff paladin, maybe a yogg druid. You know, decks on life support, that won't lose anything by experimenting with decent cards.

Priest is dead, nothing can save it. Wasting your fucking pyro removal 1 mana spells isn't a fucking solution.

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>>151025582
>14
Please be bait. This is just way to funny to not be bait

>>151025518
Increasing board suvivability whilst removing opponent's minions is arguably the most productive thing you can do in Hearthstone. But you've got a solid point in that both Druid and Mage have very good 1-drops. I think that the Anomaly is better as a combo card rather than an outright 1-drop.

>>151025598
So if I can't run Hearthstone on my phone I can't take advantage of this?

>>151025740
>>151025598
im not sure about this but is it possible to do this with an emulator like we did with the galaxy packs?

>>151025740
download a emulator, like bluestacks

>>151025776
yes

>>151024930
There is no reasonable shaman list whatsoever that doesn't run at least a single 477.
Even doomhammer is cut from control shaman, but facefucker is still in.

Also, every aggro shaman now runs a single ligthing storm unless they enjoy getting fucked by zoo and dragon warrior without a chance to fight back.

>>151025690
I don't understand the joke. I'm aware it's not something to brag about, and I made no statement to indicate that it was a high rank. If that was the message you perceived then forgive me for not being clearer.

>>151025598
Can you use this on something else? Buying packs in hearthstone seems like a waste.

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>>151025776
>>151025794
uhh sure i'll try

>playing a game that even the devs hate
you guys are wasting your lives in the worst way possible
I actually feel sorry for you
I'm so glad I dropped this game last month, just a total shitshow

>>151025690
Post your rank hotshot.

>>151025852
>>>/r9k/

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>>151025860

>>151025852
Sorry to break it to you bud but you're wasting your life no matter what game you're playing unless you're making money or a career out of it

>>151025898
Your current one dipshit

>>151025903
That's why I added a qualifier to my statement

>>151022184
I thought Iksar was alright until yesterday/today. Showed how much of a cuck he really is.

>>151025898
K. Hitting Legend once isn't something amazing to brag about since Secret Paladin was a thing.

Don't be incorrigible.

>>151025598
What if I'm EU? Promotion is not available here and I need to make amazon believe that I'm American somehow. How do I do that? I have bluestack and I'm willing to make a throwaway amazon account if that helps.

>>151025852
Almost all devs hate their game, because they're mostly wagecucks that do the bare minimum when the publisher isn't around cracking the whip. Only Japs, Eastern Euros, and some indies (just some, the ones that don't live anywhere near the east coast of the U.S.) give a fuck.

You just don't notice it, because most studios put in PR sockpuppets to communicate with the audience to prevent us from seeing the lifeless husk developing the game.

>>151025950
He is an asshole. His 'thanks' deserves a punch in the face.

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>>151018127
>"new strategies"
>silence priest has already existed and is even fucking worse with wailing soul gone

HOW CAN THEY FEED US THIS BULLSHIT AND GET AWAY WITH IT

H O W

>>151025956
Hey fuck you buddy, I hit legend with buzzard + unleash hunter back in the day :^)

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>>151024795
Barnes is the best according to Thijs

>>151025925
>>151025956
Ive hit legend 8 times so far. Right now im sitting at 20 doing brawls and quests once a day. I rarely even play the game anymore.

Purify now costs 3 mana, can also target enemy minions.
Playable?

With the Kara release Thursday Blizzard will change some cards and make a huge announcement:
"We listened to the community feedback and spent some time thinking where we want our game to go so we decided to remove charge from the classic set because it created and not interactive unfun way of gameplay. As replacement warrior gets charge stone: 5 mana 0/6 with give all your charge minions +2 attack!"

HAHAHAHAHA

>>151026081
>Rank 20
TOP KEK AND HE LAUGHS AT THE RANK 14 GUY

This is you.

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>>151026081
>20
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
WHAT A FUCKING JOKE
WHAT A NONCE
AN ACTUAL
FUCKING
SHIELDBEARER

>>151026118
i could get rank 5 in a day or 2 if i cared in the slightest. Hearthstone is not fun for me anymore and being rank 14 while trying 8 days into the season is pathetic

>>151026019
Because retards continue playing this retarded game in spite of Blizzard's retardation?

>>151025835
• Offer does not apply to physical goods.

>>151026118
It's literally the 8th day of the month, why are people surprised someone is on a bad rank? I only played Hearthstone twice so far

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Watch n Learn

CrabCakes#1917

NA

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>>151026163
>Things ACTUAL Shieldbearers say

>>151026194
Exactly why him taking the piss out of someone at Rank 14 is idiotic.

>>151026163
>being rank 14 while trying 8 days into the season is pathetic
He literally never mentioned that he was trying. Are you mentally deficient or something? No one else in the world can have hit legend and gotten tired of the game too or something?

>>151026118
>>151026134
Why do you guys rank so early in the season unless you want to grind legend for some reason? There's no point playing before midmonth. Just Rush to r5 in a couple days by midmonth and call it a day.

>>151026074
Barnes is a sleeper zoo card.

3/4 + 1/1 is already playable in the class that shits PO, abusive, and direwolf. When the 1/1 is a councilman, gangboss, voidwalker, doomguard,direwolf,brann, or villager, then it's just a fucking shredder.

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>>151026285
>Lol Rank 14 what a scrub
>WHY ARE YOU GUYS TRYING SO HARD RANK 20 IS FINE TO BE AT 8 DAYS INTO A SEASON

>>151026336
That 1/1 charger off barnes is too fucking strong man.

I don't understand how retarded can you be to consider a midrange deck the same as an aggro deck when the differences are so clear

>>151025963
>Promotion is not available here
Oh fuck, seriously? But I see it on hay day page

>>151026410
By /hsg/ standards, you must have at least a 25 card difference or else it does not qualify as a different deck.

>>151026370
I'm not even the same guy but I'm still rank 13 even if I've hit legend last month. I literally just played 5 games since the beginning of the season. This season idgaf about legend, I'll just stop at 5 as usual. Why should I try so hard for something so easy?

>>151026410
>aggro deck with 4 card changes is now "midrange deck"

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Haven't seen this card even ONE time since the nerf. Thank god for that. Saw Spellbreaker a couple though.

>>151026336
It's also good in N'Zoth paladin.
You have a chance of getting a 1/1 aldor, kodo, or keeper. But also a chance of getting a 1/1 Sylvanas, Tirion, Cairne, or Rag. Even getting a 1/1 Loot Hoarder or Acolyte is fine because it's a 1/1 body + cycle for 1 extra man compared to Barnes' stats.
Even getting a 1/1 doomsayer can be decent since typically it would be the opponent whose board will be bigger if you drop Barnes on 4 against most decks.

>>151026524
First of all you have already been proved wrong about midrange shaman, next thing you can go is google some midrange paladin decklists and compare them to aggro paladin, or midrange hunter with aggro hunter. There's a reason there was something called hybrid hunter before, it was a mix between face hunter and midrange hunter

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>151026616
I'm not that guy and I'm not arguing the others, just the shaman one. And if by proven you mean citing decklists no one runs, then I guess we won't be friends

>>151026604
You forgot the one crucial fact that n'zoth paladin is bad and slow.

>>151026336
I'm curious to see if Brann off of Barnes will automatically net an extra 1/1

>>151026721
Blizzdrones have defended this

>>151026410
In HS just call it hybrid or memerange when you want to say midrange. Memerange hunter, hybrid hunter, hybrid shaman.

Why ccant i find Hay Day? Is it a game? What pic does it have?

>>151026789
Where? Genuinely want to see what could anyone possibly say in its defense

>>151026604
1/1 Loot Hoarder is awful in control matchups though. The extra draw is already bad when N'zoth brings them back, even worse if he rezzes 3. A lot of games seem to go into fatigue.

Man, Bloodmage Thalnos is just the most miserable legend to open. You can't dust him, because he's highly playable, yet he's just so fucking boring and bland and only goes in shitty masturbation decks.

>>151026728
Shaman has been always known for having everytime the same cards in every deck, you might as well not call it anything, every shaman decklist has always had the same base 24 cards

>>151026860
>A lot of games seem to go into fatigue.
I don't know what meta you've been playing in, but I haven't had a game decided by fatigue damage since the release of wog.

>>151026860
Playing Loot Hoarder in a N'zoth deck is honestly kinda dumb. Flame Juggler is a way better 2drop for control decks anyway.

>>151026845
Memers think admitting it's not the worst card ever printed (like Kripp claims it to be) is defending it.

>>151026860
N'zoth Paladin wins control matchups before they go into fatigue. Except Priest, where he loses anyway

>>151026845
"Remember when we shit on Embrace the Shadow? An Auchenai with no body? How could that be good?

What if we could run 4 copies of Silence? Better yet, what if one of them cantripped?

And now, in the face of new cards like Moat Lurker, Purify can become insanely good as part of a combo."

>>151026860
What control decks run loot hoarder? I'm only seeing combo decks running it

>>151026845
Iksar on twitter for one. He believes the community is undervaluing a card which has zero constructed or meme deck viability.

The only way for this card to be undervalued is to have foreknowledge of cards that will synergize with it. Basically, Blizzcucks are retarded.

>Watching one of the big Hearthstone streamers on Twitch
>They make a ridiculously stupid decision that costs them the game
>Then I never watch them again

Anybody else do this?

>>151027052
Watch streamers? No.

>>151027052
And how do you know that their decision was stupid? Why do you think you are better than them at the game?

>>151027016
Justicar is the only card Paladin needs to win against priest

>>151026820
its a chicken with bug eyes icon

>>151027105
I know it's dumb because I see the board and cards available for play. I deduce how I would've played it and seeing them go contrary to my GOOD play and failing makes me want to scorn them forever.

even as an OCfag I can't think of any cards that would make purify good that aren't fucking stupid gimmicks

a 2 mana 4/5 that gains -2/-2? it's so forced

you can't even make minions that synergize with being silenced because it silences their card text

>>151027052

Yeah but then I spectate morons like you for watch and learn and realize no matter how bad the streamer is, you manage to be even fucking dumber.

>>151027272
okay i installed i was searching the wrong tab. Now how do i know that im eligible for the free 10$ for digital products?

>>151027340
2 mana spell

if cast on a silenced target, give it +30/+30

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>>151027340
2 mana 7/7: Your minions cost 10 mana

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>>151026721

>>151027552
cracked me up

>>151027420
just install hearthstone and wait 48 hours, you will get the credit

>>151026998

But it IS the worst card ever printed.

>>151027552
wew

>>151026527
Faceless summoner joker.

>>151027639
It's not, let's be honest. This is at worst a very overcosted cycle, there are cards in the game that not only don't do anything good, but activelly hinder your deck.

>>151027639
I think what he was trying to say is that it wasn't printed which means it can't be the worst card ever printed. That's the only explanation I could come up with aside from the most obvious one, which is that he is fucking retarded.

>>151027761
name some worse cards

>>151027761
>at worst an overcosted cycle

it's an overcosted cycle you literally can't play if you don't have minions on board

not having minions on board is a chronic problem for priest

>>151027841
poison blade

>>151026989
>Playing Loot Hoarder in a N'zoth deck is honestly kinda dumb.
lol no
Have you seen any successful N'Zoth paladin list with flame jugglers instead of loot hoarders

>>151027021
It's a fair point to make, you don't make a 30 card silence deck with only 1 silence card. You need multiple silences and multiple silence targets to be able to get any sort of consistent theme going.

The problem is that none of the silence targets are actually that good. The biggest/fastest drops they you can combo out with Silence are actually only on par with the power drops other classes get easily. There's nothing bigger (in terms of health, which is what matters most) than Blademaster unless you go for some Barnes Dragon/Icehowl shit.

>>151027761
Purify actively hinders your deck by taking up a class card slot that could have been occupied by a card that helps make Priest viable in standard.

>>151027908
So do all shitty cards, but this can at least cycle. Cards like Millhouse take up deckslot AND you literally can't play them because would lose the game on the spot.

Look, I'm not defending the card, it's dogshit, but it's not the worst card ever printed

>>151026721
HOLY SHIT I JUST GOOGLE'D IT AND IT TUNS OUT IT'S A REAL CAD WTF!!!!

The only thing that seems even a little fun about Kara is the Dragon/Murloc/Beast cards, which I guess is Karazhan's "mechanic" which is honestly pretty fucking bland for an adventure compared to Discover from LoE

>>151027881
Poison blade is viable in some tavern brawls.

Purify should draw two cards to be remotely playable. The "effect" of the card is practically a drawback.

>>151024153
Would be such a great card if it was only to minions.

>>151028026
Reminder loe was only a thing because it wasnt made by blizzards design team.

>>151028026
Kara's mechanic is the ability to remove Priest from the game

>>151028048

Purify is viable in that one Naxxramas solo battle where you constantly get 0/X minions that deal damage to you.

So if you had trouble beating that one wing, here's something that makes it slightly easier.

t. Brode

Make Mind Control an 8 mana card again.

>>151027876
I didn't know Priest minions die before even touching the board.

>>151028048
>mode that literally changes how the game works
that obviously doesn't count mate

who knows, purify might be viable in some brawls too

>>151028026
>Medivh, the biggest most important legendary of the set is just a copy of a previous card on a weapon instead of a minion
t-thanks blizzard

>>151024007
>turn 1 spirit claws
>turn 2 thalnos, remove their minion
>turn 3 master of ceremonies, a three mana six four

>>151028141
>I don't know why you guys hate this card, all you need is ancient watcher then you have a 2 card, 4 mana 4/5 which DRAWS ANOTHER CARD
baka desu onii-senpai

>>151028120
Is this what they're going for though? Are the just making Priest THE adventure class?

>>151028010
You misunderstood me, I was saying that the fact that Purify exists means that one of the three class cards Priest gets this adventure will be totally useless, actively hindering any and all decks that could have become viable if it were instead a good card.

>>151028086
source?

>>151028212

Well it sure as fuck isn't useful anywhere else.

>>151027876
>not having minions on board is a chronic problem for priest
>priest starts playing minions nobody bothers removing (watchers)
>priest for the first time in history sticks a 2-drop for turn 3
>doesn't even need to spend a card to do it now

Purify confirmed for saving Priest.

when the fuck are they going to nerf warrior into the ground like it deserves to be
how can they be ok with leaving classes like pirest and paladin as bad as they are right now, but also be ok with leaving warrior as retardedly overpowered as it is right now? it's so broken it has like 6 viable decks, everything just works too well with every other card.

>>151028010

I would honestly rather have Milhouse in my deck than Purify. Milhouse at least has a potential upside. Purify is just nothing but a wasted card slot.

>>151028175
>Medivh
>8 mana 7/7
>transform all enemy minions into random minions that cost 1 less.

Guys, purify is for when you go full northshire and immediately regret that decision

>>151028203
Are 4 mana 4/5s that can attack on turn 3 worse than poison blade?

>>151028175
This is one of the things that pisses me off the most about this expansion, they couldn't even come up with a new fucking effect for the end legendary of the set.

This entire adventure feels like it's the filler of a regular expansion, especially when they're wasting cards printing absolute shit like pompous thespian (arena isn't even an excuse since blizzard clearly gives no fucks about that mode)

>>151028337
come on anon, it's really hard to make those kinds of balance changes, just imagine how much time and money it would take to make reprints of the most OP warrior cards and mail them out to all the HS players across the globe

don't you think you're being a bit unfair to blizz right now?