/sthg/ - Sonic the Hedgehog General

>>150761970
cuter cat

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Okay so, Amyfag here. I didn't realise there were so many Blazefags here. What is the appeal? Is it ibkt? the fact that she's a spaghetti spiller? Or was there something about her playstyle in Rush that was appealing? Or is it just something as simple as her design or cat ears or something?

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>Her nemesis is a descendant of eggman's
>she is seen along silver in 06 at the beginning of the game hinting that they share the same time and space origin

She's not from a different dimension at all, but rather from the future, am i right anon? her world is supposed to be the same as sonic's only two hundread years beyond, right?

if so,explain sol emeralds?

>>150762248
>Not sweet
one job

First for ways of the old

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J3k63UtHRYg
>>150762371
>06
I believe that was retconned, anon

>>150762282
Because Velo Nova is a kickass soundtrack and it goes great with Blaze.

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>>150762248
Other cuter cat.

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>>150762282
I'm actually more of a Amyfag myself but I made Blaze the OP since Vela-Nova was stuck in my head. Blaze is a cool & fun to play qt in Sonic Rush though.

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>>150762282
>What is the appeal?
To put it simply, just about everything. Her playstyle in Rush was great, her design's good, but it's her personality, that mix of serious and spaghetti, that really puts it over the top and personality is the biggest reason I'm a stickler for ibkt, since she canonically has a complex about that. She's just 10/10 best girl, period.

>>150762371
Iizuka backtracked on that, like he has many things. But in general, 06 is non-canon, Blaze is from her own dimension, and Silver and Nega are running with their stories from Rivals.

>>150761970
>>150763038
Cutest cat.

>>150763332
>Iizuka backtracked on that, like he has many things. But in general, 06 is non-canon, Blaze is from her own dimension, and Silver and Nega are running with their stories from Rivals.

so...she's from a different dimension ... while silver and nega are from sonic's world in the future ? (never played rivals)

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Who is jam?

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>>150763613
>while silver and nega are from sonic's world in the future ? (never played rivals)
Correct, hence why pic related has so little basis in games that are actually relevant. They still have a nice dynamic though, it just requires games that aren't 06 to better flesh it out

>>150762903
>>150763304
>>150763332


thanks for the explanation guys. I've never had anything against blaze, I just never got the appeal. She seems more like an older sister than a love interest. In my eyes anyway. But I'm interested in what makes her appealing.

>>150763886
Juice's boyfriend.

>>150761637
>Corrects the number but forgot to give us a new groove to listen to.

Fuck you.

>>150764051
Yeah, I realized that afters, my mistake.

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>>150763886
>tfw will never be attend this and get a signature

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Behold, some shitty mock-ups of the zones I plan on making
R8 or H8, either way I'll appreci8
Robotnik Armada is misleading because there aren't actually gonna be egg pawns or even those kinds of ships.

I hope to God this ILEC place has air conditioning

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>>150764051
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e-nLWLprWg
Here

>>150764621
Nebula zone looks mondo rad. Keep us updated on that.

I hope the lawsuit doesn't kill the comic.

>>150764621
All look like they've got some cool potential.

>>150765318
We just have to hope for the best anon, stay strong.

>>150764621
>Cloud Climb Zone

Is there going to be a giant fan of sorts to push the character up?

>Nebula Zone

You're going to need coffee and pills for when you work on that one.

>Neon Mesa

I hope the ground tiles look better in the final.

Other than that, I can definetly see something good coming from this. Good luck!

>>150765721
>Is there going to be a giant fan of sorts to push the character up?
In the actual level there will be more visible updrafts, but yes the mechanic is based off the fans in Wing Fortress
>You're going to need coffee and pills for when you work on that one.
What?
If you're saying it's a heavy workload, my idea was to compress the background down to 16 colors (or whatever the maximum is) and using that
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Veil_Nebula_-_NGC6960.jpg full version because filesize limit
>I hope the ground tiles look better in the final.
These are just quick mock-ups, when I actually make the tileset I plan to actually put in effort

Glad to hear you guys like the ideas

>>150766525
i think he means hacking in grinding will be hard

>>150766818
Grinding?
Oh I guess that kinda does look like a rail
Well it's not, think Starlight Carnival or Rainbow Road

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>>150762282
>survey has Blaze as best girl and most popular waifu

You're pretty alright /sthg/

http://imgur.com/a/niyIB

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Not one to do unboxing type posts but this is essentially a follow-up from before. The covers are all of very nice quality and while the Universe pages are a lower quality than the archive ones as it uses cheaper paper, it still looks great and is vibrant.

Please support the official release.

>>150766525
I had an idea for a stage recently. The environment in Sonic 17's trailer looked a little western to me, and I like casino zones, so I combined the two and made "Dynamite Casino". I'd post sketches, but my scanner is broken.

>>150769784
Sounds kinda cool.
What kinda music?
Classic casino-level typel music?
Or something original and more cowboy to fit the western theme?

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>>150762282
>take Sonic gameplay
>use it for new female character with some adjustments
>introduce her in a enjoyable fast paced game with a catchy soundtrack
>add stoic nature that is balanced out by social awkwardness that makes her adorable
Perfect desu

>>150769343
I take it back about Universe, it's just the Scourge Trade that has low quality paper, everything else is high quality.

Sonic was never good.
A 25 year lie.

>>150770430
IGN please

>>150770430
'kay

>>150770127
It would be upbeat and fresh, like the classic music, but also cowboyish and goofy. The player would be playing slot machines while trying to avoid dynamite explosions, western shootouts and Badniks dressed like bandits/indians.

>>150770237
>Scourge
>low-quality knock-off
Appropriate.

Question about Knuckles in Sonic 2
Does the rom still have Sonic and Tails' data and would I be able to use said rom to have three playable characters?

And is all of this nullified by S&K being an impenetrable wall of code?

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Night guys

It's gonna be great

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>>150771516
She should be wearing a sling bikini and Eggman

>>150762371
06 is nonsense crap that erased itself from the canon.

>>150771678
I like bathing suits.

>>150770991
>Knuckles in Sonic 2
If the rom is disassembled it should have all three characters art and necesary code in the files

>Could I have all three characters ready to go?

Technically, no. You would have to re-add them to the game via assembly programming.

>>150771846
So get all three but manually add in Sonic and Tails or just get Sonic and Tails
I think I'll go with the latter, thanks anon

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>>150771678

>>150762371
>Little is known about the Power of the Stars. According to Eggman Nega, it is a form of energy that separates and sustains the existence of parallel dimensions, such as Sonic's dimension and Blaze's world, allowing them to co-exist.

>While the upper limit of the Power of the Stars is unknown, it is known that it far surpasses even the combined power of the Chaos Emeralds and Sol Emeralds,[1] and that just a fraction of it is enough to completely annihilate Blaze's kingdom. It is said that the user of the Power of the Stars has the power to destroy both of the realms. It can also, if the user wishes this, merge the two realms together and the user of the power reigns as king of that realm. It has a connection with the Jeweled Scepter, which is the key to tapping the Power of the Stars, which can only be done in some ancient ruins deep beneath Southern Island

At some undetermined point in the future, the Power of the Stars is corrupted, resulting in both worlds merging and getting fucked up, resulting in Silver's ruined future. Since Nega is from Silver's future, he can time travel freely to both Sonic and Blaze's worlds because they're the same world in the future. Blaze is still alive in the future because cats have nine lives but the progression of time has affected her memory, hence why she doesn't really remember Sonic.

>>150772190
Oh mama

>>150762371
Maybe in the events of bad future 06 there was a resonance casquade that ended with both worlds merging up?

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>>150772610
MAMA?!

That's Mama Robotnik to you sonny

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is it just me or do i see the older sprite behind Mania Sonic there

>>150772823
Where did you get this?

>>150772403
If the Sol Dimension is really Sonic's world in the future, then how did the Sol Emeralds come into existence?

>>150772934
It's just a screenshot from the trailer

>>150773018
yeah about half a second before he goes offscreen

>>150772823
It's not in the ps4 trailer,probably just forgot to hide the layer

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Time for previews

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Just completed Sonic 2 with my brother Fuck Metropolis Zone why did they shove an enemy at the end of every platforming segment to knock you off and have shit coming out of the walls.

>>150773678
To force you to pay attention instead of holding right to win.

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Also, for the fags at SoS, Hesse is doing free sketches tomorrow as long as you give him something to draw on.

>>150773385
but why would it be there? it doesnt make sense

>>150773654
You missed a page.

>>150773824
Not him but the other zones did that better. The enemies in that zone are badly placed

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>>150773991
Shit you're right

>>150773654
>Amy/Rouge teamup antics.
I didn't start reading the arcie comics until recently but I'll be DAMNED if it doesn't have a lot of shit I really wanted to see.

>>150774104
That's lewd, Rouge.

>>150773868
Like my tits?

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>>150773868
BUMP. SKETCH. WHEN.

Also, happy birthday Bump!

>>150773654

>Immobilization
>Piko-near spank
>"Something BIG is coming" Panic
>Dat bat ass in the last panel

Someone is inserting their fetishes into the comic again.

>>150774104

>Except they were pleasant

Confirmed

>>150774289
poor dumb knuckles.

also it's canon he has no idea how he came to be guardian of the master emerald now? like he just woke up and was like THIS IS MY JOB/

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And that's that
>>150774465
Wouldn't be surprised. Sega doesn't want to fucking explain it

>>150774465
Correct, just like in Adventure 1.

How many issues come out a month of both the main series and Universe?

>>150773018
>>150773098
Probably just an animation error or something only in the trailer. Whitehead and Stealth would probably have caught it if they were behind the trailer as well as the game.

>>150774259
Whose the madman willing to ask for that?

Probably not me

>>150773868
Knuckles not freaking out more kinda disappoints me.

>>150774558

1 per

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>>150773678
Every fucking time.

>>150774558
Supposed to be every four weeks for each, meaning a new comic every fortnight. Obviously give or take Archie being Archie.

>>150774558
1 per month for both, though it's changed a couple of times these past few months. We got 2 main issues in June and we're getting 2 Universe issues this month because there's an extra week. Usually it goes
>Main issue>Week of nothing>Universe
>>150774638
Still got an entire issue to go. Plus the inevitable rage when he finds out he's been had

>>150774537
wait, really? I haven't played Sa1 since it came out on the dreamcast but they literally have him mention in a cutscene he doesn't know why he's the only echidna and has to guard the emerald? He just does it out of instinct?

>>150774781
Sonic 2 needed the insta shield

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>>150774516

>this fucking linework

WHY THE FUCK IS ABT NOT ON THE MAIN COMIC?

>>150774859
Basically yes. Pretty sure he mentions it at the beginning and end of his story.

>>150774516
>>150774537
To be honest part of me likes that idea. Like you live on an island with a giant gem of ultimate power that supplies life and energy to your entire floating island. You'll probably just instinctively say "I must protect this." It's like...instinct.

>>150772034
are you still that annon making a romhack from before ?

>>150774890
That would not help with Slicers
The unholy trinity of Metropolis badniks are all bad for different reasons
Slicers are placed shittily
Shell Crackers are just shitty
Asterons are the most okay because playing smart actually can beat them out

>>150774906
Because Universe is the superior product.

>>150775081
Yep

>>150764024
>She seems more like an older sister than a love interest
What does that have to do with Blaze being great?

>>150774104
>This is someone's fetish.

>>150775092
That split 2nd invic would let you phase through their attacks. It would allow you attack Shell Crackers from the front. Also they need to make it so when you press jump in the air you can curl into a ball. I don't like how when you get launched by a spring you can't attack.

>>150773824
I tried being cautious but it felt a lot of those moments were unavoidable, and when I was 3 rings away from going super some spikes came out of the floor which I had no idea where there and there was no indication of them. It could also be because I'm rusty.

>>150775267
>This is Rouge's fetish.
Indeed

>>150772989
>If the Sol Dimension is really Sonic's world in the future, then how did the Sol Emeralds come into existence?
thats exactly what i was wondering, but anon said blaze came from a different dimension, not sonic's

>>150763613
>>150763930
>>150763332

>>150775267

yeah, Rouge's

>>150773678
Metropolis zone certainly played the role of Sonic 2's Scrap Brain, but its aesthetic (color scheme, music) made it feel more like a regular mid-game factory stage like Wacky Workbench, as opposed to an Robotnik's lair.

>>150775345
>Also they need to make it so when you press jump in the air you can curl into a ball.
I swear to god there was a game that did this but I forgot which one
Insta-shield does not protect from projectiles so slicers would still suck. But yeah Shell Crackers would be fine in Sonic 3

>>150774781
amatuer.
Gotta jump before you hit the top.
DO IT AGAIN!

>>150775460
I disagree, giving it a third act was plenty to make it feel like a final level
It just goes to shit because it gets followed by Three mini-zones

>>150774259
He won't be doing oc's.

I'd try to buy a copy of mega drive from him but I bet they'll be sold out before I even get in reeee

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>>150772823
>>150773950
Yeah it sure is weird that it's there to begin with.

>>150775552
It was from Triple Trouble, I got curious to see if any game allowed it and that one did. They called it the "Flying Spin Attack". Someone should suggest that move to Taxman and Stealth. I think it would be a great move. You could go from a spring to a bounce with out landing.

>>150775779
probably used as a placeholder before the Mania sprite was ready.

>>150775236
would it be too much hassle to add scourge as a playable/secret character? i really like him and i cant find a decent hack with him aside from s factor

>>150775872
>It was from Triple Trouble, I got curious to see if any game allowed it and that one did. They called it the "Flying Spin Attack". Someone should suggest that move to Taxman and Stealth. I think it would be a great move. You could go from a spring to a bounce with out landing.
i would like to see this too

>>150775959
Yes it would. I actually have no prior experience with Genesis romhacking, only with other games.
Before someone asks: SMW, Earthbound, and Brawl. Only my Brawl mods have been released. Also screwed around a lot in RPG maker, also unreleased.
Also if I'm adding anyone else it'd be knuckles first
Better luck next time I guess
>>150775872
This sounds super easy to implement compared to the other main character edit I want to make so I'll see about adding it in

>>150774341
>http://imgur.com/a/niyIB
Remember how ABT drew clove's legs?

>>150776523
Please do, they had this move in the hack Sonic Megamix and it's pretty good. In that game though they made it so it slowed you down. So you could use it like a air-brake when you got launched from a ramp or a spring.

>>150776728

ABT is a man of taste.

Something tells me a crash course is gonna take days so I'll probably make a Sonic Retro account to ask questions over there.
First thing I want to do is get all of the character abilities working, and possibly release that as its own thing "Sonic 2 Drop Dash Edition" or something
Before I start working on that, throw me anything else that should be added to this list, preferably nothing that would need to break one-button gameplay
>Default Sonic 2 moves
>Sonic Drop Dash/Tails Flight
>Flying Spin Attack for both
I don't think anything else is REALLY necessary. Insta-shield would be cool, but I could also just not have Shell-Crackers, which sounds much easier

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Everyone post your favorite obscure or cut song, I'll start.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw_z8gVVp0I

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>>150764621
Neon Mesa or Nebula zone better have some chill music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dctsh_1zjOM

>>150769546
stop having sex

>>150774516
>Robot with armament : I am growing stronger

>>150775703
I meant that it feels like a final level in that it comes close to the end of the game. It's just its music and colors feel less threatening than they should be. But then again, I played CD and 3K before playing 2, so...

>>150777846

bear in mind that Retro only gives you 20 posts as a trial member before they decide whether or not you're worth keeping so make it count and don't act like an idiot

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wake up
see this
what do?

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>>150778280
I'll keep that in mind
Imagine if 4chan did that, this site would be barren

>>150778360

why does the donut have fur

>>150778360
>(pic related)
>when your waifu is best girl but she cant cook

>>150777846
>Flying Spin Attack

What's that? Rolling up after hitting a spring or something?

>>150778131
>fleetwaytails.jpg

>>150778360
Wake up again.

>>150778476
>why does the donut have fur
she added some of her hair just to give it "that special taste"

>>150778360
>see her trying hard
>smile
>go over to her
>hug and tell her not to worry
>help her remove apron
>grab her neck
>lift her up
>throw her outside
>BAD KITTY!

>>150778360
What's that round her ankle?

>>150778721
Yes, see >>150775872

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>>150778360
Eat it to protect her smile

>>150779164
...an anklet.

>>150777846
Someone already made a drop dash hack for Sonic 1, not the same but I figured I'd mention it.

http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=15930&st=675&p=865135&#entry865135

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>>150778721
yes

>>150778360
she screwed up that donut so i'd screw hers

>>150779215
She looks like a doofus with such huge fangs.

>>150779302
Yes someone posted a video of that earlier
Not done in Sonic 2 yet, and we don't have levels made with it in mind

>>150779215
>Those fangs
My waifu became even better.

>>150779215
she looks so happy there, never seen her smile like that before, im so glad

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>>150778360

Who is that red guy that punches stuff?

>>150779417
I feel like Sonic CD could benefit from a Drop Dash. One of its most frequent complains is constantly losing momentum while trying to time travel, it'd probably help mitigate that.

>>150779645
Red Sonic

>>150779645
>Who is that red guy that punches stuff?
nachos de enchilada

>>150779650
>One of its most frequent complains is constantly losing momentum while trying to time travel, it'd probably help mitigate that.
Keeping momentum to time travel is part of the difficulty, that's the point. It's an extension of the idea that Sonic games reward you for keeping up your pace.

>>150779834
Of course. Like his theme says:
>i'm red sonic, i drink lots of tonic, get drunk, fuck bitches and smoke all the chronic.

>>150779645
Zavok

>>150780007
Someone record this rap post it on Vocaroo then post the link to it here plz

>>150780208
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyA_XahL7dQ
play this in the background

>>150773868
It's a shame that it's Naugus, Nixus is genuinely a likeable persona.

>more than any echidna in Ian's run and he's been in 3 pages

QUICK, FIND THE ECHIDNA FROM PENDERS WHO THOUGHT HE WAS ALL ALONE IN THIS WORLD SO WE KNOW WHERE THE NEXT LAWSUIT IS COMING FROM

>>150780007
>>150780208
>>150780584
Stilted af, but here you go
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0huF0NSD99V

>>150778360
roll over and tell amy to go help her out and wake me up when they're done.

>>150781578
>implying amy is better at cooking than blaze

>>150781510
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s0huF0NSD99V
This is pretty good but you could do better anon. Your voice needs to be more understandable and louder over the music.

>>150781510
you actually did it! you absolute madman !

>>150778360
wake up

>>150781743
>sally is terribad at cooking
>blaze is bad at cooking

c'mon man give me at least one girl that is good. I imagine amy makes great pancakes because she practices out of love and devotion. A girl that can break into a base to hassle sonic while he's in jail can certainly knock out some decent pancakes.

hence her prime spot as harem queen.

>>150777846
>SonicRetro
Good luck getting any answers. Over there the basic rules are RTFM/W and Just Google It. Some might even answer with Git Gud by telling you to go learn assembly first. If your question falls into any of those categories they'll ignore you .

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Since the games have been focusing a lot more on Sonic and Tails part of me really wants to see Knuckles and Amy forming some sort of bond. They both seem to have kind of a friendly chemistry with Amy jokingly shoving Knuckles and them spending all of lost world together. Maybe not close like sonic and tails but enough that they'd work together (outside of the comics that is) Maybe a side story where they have to find something (Amy's apparently good at Dowsing) or have to save Sonic or find Sonic.

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>>150781785
Yeah, I didn't do proper sound mixing, my bad. Let's just say, I'm not a rapper

>>150781883
That I am

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>>150782001
>RTFM/W
Thanks for telling me there was one, I didn't even think to look for one of those

>>150782056
Maybe when Amy talks to Tails for more than 2 seconds.

>>150764024
> She seems more like an older sister than a love interest.

???

if you're talking about Silver then sure, that's literally what the creators say, Silver is the younger brother and stuff.

>>150782618
http://info.sonicretro.org/SCHG_How-to:Guide#Sonic_2
A bunch of this is relatively easy to follow, "copy X code to Y location", gives a decent grasp of some of the gameplay concepts you can use to play around with original ideas. At the least, you'll probably want to look at 'Port S3K's Object Manager' since that alone gives you more flexibility with level contents.

>>150782056
>Maybe a side story where they have to find something (Amy's apparently good at Dowsing)
That's literally what they're doing in this Sonic Universe arc.

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>>150782618
Rule 34 / tails gay

>>150783160
Yeah I know. Which is why I said (outside of the comics, that is)

>>150783258
I know, I know, but the thing is we're still getting that scenario right now in the next best thing.

>>150783173
I do shit like that literally every time I have to PrtSc to please my inner 13-year-old

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>>150781510
Neat.
Nice one, anon.

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>>150783152
God bless you anon

>>150777637

Yes. This is true.

>>150783152
>>150783621

>port x to game y

Problem with those is they work only on a specific disasm. You're fucked if they have code ready for a feature you want that's not the same version of the game you're working on.

Just look at this list :

http://info.sonicretro.org/Disassemblies

>>150783621
It's worth noting that there's a few different disassemblies, and tutorials may be written for a specific version that might not directly translate to another. IIRC Esrael has his own for a different revision to the one that's mainly used, so any written by him are likely to target his own.
tl;dr those tutorials won't make the romhack for you, but they should give you a few handy shortcuts and provide a nice basis to do your own work from

>>150769546
Are they wrestling?

>>150784680
yes, anon, thats how super best friends wrestle

>>150783135
I dunno what to tell you anon, I just can't see blaze as waifu material, she just seems like big sister material. Amy, rouge, vanilla, tikal hell even sticks seems more viable. (and of course, bunnie, sally, nicole etc) There's just something about Blaze that just doesn't hook me.

I can't put my finger on it. Hence why I was asking what the appeal was. I guess I'm just not a Blazefag. I am interested in why she's appealing though, from a character design standpoint it is interesting to understand why people like her though. I was shocked that she topped the polls, since she doesn't even seem to be posted more often than any other girl here.

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Forgoing game mechanics, control, and even certain plot aspects, what is your favorite game TONE-wise?

Mine is Heroes. Despite the bad acting, corny dialogue and the iffy CGI at the time, I enjoyed the way the characters interact, within their teams and with other teams. It managed to make the situation seem dire and for me to take the threat seriously without a bunch of innocent humans like the adventure games and unleashed did. Non Eggman humans in sonic games kinda bugs me to begin with.It really takes a lot of the Whimsy out of the world for me.Also seeing all the different dynamics between groups and the hints towards the finale are all really satisfying. My only gripe is how all the branching storylines don't make sense since all the characters go to the same places in the same order and have the same story beats. How are they all not bumping into each other way more than twice? And does that mean metal made like 4 different versions of every robot enemy? I would like THAT part to be a bit more like Adventure, where it's all several pieces of a story to make up a full one. (which is why it's a CLOSE 2nd for me)


What's your personal favorite?

>>150785749
Either Unleashed or Adventure 2

>>150785749
Tone wise I think Adventure 2 was absolutely perfect. Serious when it needed to be, corny when it was needed, fun in others.

Shout outs to the OVA and the storybook series.

>>150785705
>I just can't see blaze as waifu material
>There's just something about Blaze that just doesn't hook me.
>I can't put my finger on it

maybe it's just you, anon
but say, if she was your big sis and wanted to snusnu...would you ?

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Are you guys ready for the new Sonic game this November?

>>150785749
CD. I got into the series with aosth as a kid, and CD for PC was my first Sonic game, and one of my first games ever. I was absolutely enamored with the environment that the parallax scrolling presented, and the levels were bright, vibrant, and most importantly HUGE and crammed with stuff to explore, and that's to say nothing of the Past and Future versions. And the music? Nothing short of phenomenal. Though, I never got past Tidal Tempest in my childhood, due to that god-forsaken drowning.

>>150785749
I gotta say SA1
Unleashed close second
From what I played of chronicles, very little and it was years ago, I like the interaction there too when you decide to be a snarky cunt

>>150786256
Aw yeah this is happening

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>>150786076
not really, I'd be willing to help her with shenanigans to finally confess to a guy she did like and bro it up with her playing games and hanging out and whatever, and be glad when she did finally manage to confess to the guy. But she doesn't do anything for me.


which is weird that I don't see her that way, because most of the sonic girls I would.

And it's weird that I'm okay with the fact that I can say that about sonic girls jesus christ what has happened to my life.

>>150786849
what if she was in a huge heat and needed your *ahem* "help" to "relieve" it ?

>>150787246
Why did they make Sonic, red. And Red Sonic, blue?

>>150787246
it's red sonic and blue redsonic !

>>150787413
>Red Sonic, blue?
newfags cant tell red sonic from blueckles

>>150787330
I would still not fuck the cat.

>>150787619
>Bluekcles
Get your OC name outta here, friend

>>150787246
>not changing the shoes


c'man anon, step it up.

>Listening to "Born in the USA"
>Tears well up in my eyes
>Update the board

What strange times we live in.

>>150788121
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec0XKhAHR5I

>>150787246
What is this the Twilight Zone?

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What Sonic fan games/rom hacks do you wish would have gotten finished?

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>>150789124
Still waiting on Sonic 2 HD.
Never ever

>>150789124
I guess it technically WAS finished, but I would've loved to have seen more of Pana der Hejhog.

>>150788887
Twilight zone act 1

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>>150789303
Anon stop you're making Blazefags look obnoxious

>>150788731
Right on.

Clove is my waifu

>>150789124
s factor

>SoS in just a few hours
I'm not going, but I feel weird, and pretty anxious.

>>150789124

I wish SRB2 would actually update more than once a decade.

>>150761637
So Crush 40 new songs for project 2017?

>>150789449
>Pana der Hejhog.
and i thought i was the only one !

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>>150789124
bakasonic

>>150789923
He has Bedhead, he should brush his quills

>>150781968
>c'mon man give me at least one girl that is good.

Cream, Bunnie? Relic is probably bad. Someone on Dulcy's team apparently makes good food.

>>150790165
Or shave them off.

>>150787854
>>150789456
>Anon stop you're making Blazefags look obnoxious
fine, sorry i wasnt serious i just wanted to have a lil fun pulling anon's leg

>>150787330
>>150787854
>>>/wsg/1227808

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>>150790165

>>150790165
>>150790414
let him be, my punk sonic is best sonic

>>150790414
Somebody should shave all his fur so he isn't blue anymore.

>>150790720
>implying sonic doesn't just hit mach 1 when he wakes up to get that natural wind blown look.

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>>150790165
>>150790414
it's meant to resemble this, guys

>>150790882
Even his eyelids?

Let's all agree that clove is best sonic girl. She has emotional depth. And legs.

>>150791046
Yes.

>>150791070
>Let's all agree that clove is best sonic girl
she is cool, but blaze is hot
cant beat that

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>>150790987
Where's the romhack where Sonic resembles the bottom left design?

>>150791447
>Where's the romhack where Sonic resembles the bottom left design?

http://info.sonicretro.org/Mr._Needlemouse_(hack)#Download

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>>150790987
Fun Fact: This was supposed to be Sonic's original design, but it was considered too hardcore for the Japanese audience, and was changed into the Sonic we all know and love today.

>>150791564
Terrific.

>>150791576
>and was changed into the Sonic we all know and love today.
Boom Sonic?

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>>150791576
>This was supposed to be Sonic's original design, but it was considered too hardcore for the Japanese audience
bunch of pussies... cant handle a sonic ...

what's everyone's favourite rom hacks?

>>150792360
>what's everyone's favourite rom hacks?
sfactor
pana der hedgehog
bakasonic

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>>150792235
>bunch of pussies...

>>150792360
fat sonic who gets fatter with each "onion" ring.
Funny stuff.

According to the SoS terms and conditions, you can't film or record audio at the venue. Anyone heard about this before?

>>150792432
>(pic related)
aero the acrobat?

>>150789124
My Sonic hack from 2008. The team fell apart and I moved onto other projects. I really liked what I did with Green Hill too.

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just curious, is drawfag taking request tonight?

>>150792628
So no new Mania footage?

>>150792561
That's Zodick the Hellhog from Illbleed, a B-movie parody video game.

>>150792841
>My Sonic hack from 2008. The team fell apart and I moved onto other projects. I really liked what I did with Green Hill too.

what was it called ?

>>150792360
Pana, S Factor, Sonic VR, S3 Complete.
I want to say Sonic Mildness, at least for the first zone. Fun remix kind of hack with fun layout, with a cool Advance 2 style boss. After the first zone though, the quality drops off massively, wavers between janky and just plain boring, and no other original bosses.

>>150792841
Still got it anywhere? Would be interested to see the WIP at least.

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>>150792768
It wouldn't take much to make him look like a Sonic character honestly.

>>150793095
Sonic 1 Pixel Perfect. Its has 4 acts of Green Hill, then the layout is broken in MZ. I believe we also disabled the level select so you can't see the art we were working on for the other zones.

I also found out last year that some russian hacker took my hack and combined it with another hack and released it as Sonic Pixel Perfect Ultimate.

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10 10 HERE WE GO AGAIN

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>>150793095
>>150793348
Oh, oh! I remember you and your hack. It was one of my favorites. I was always fond of how polished it was compared to other hacks, and inspired my own work.

Whacha up to these days?

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Is 3D-Anon around? I wanna see his progress on his Bump model.

>>150793569
>>150793348
Yeah I remember checking that out some years back too. Trying it out now, and yeah, pastel GHZ looks and plays fantastic.

>>150793834
You're really looking forward to his model aren't you?

>>150793569
Ehh, not a whole lot. For a while I dropped off the Sonic scene. For a while I was helping to make Frets on Fire themes, then I joined GoldenEye Source. Right now I'm taking a break from that due to my own personal issues, but I plan to return eventually.

Some days I really want to finish what I started with Pixel Perfect, but I don't know enough 68k. I was more the art/level design part of the team.

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>>150794001
maybe.

>>150793967
Oh, and bonus points for choice of music track desu.

>>150793834
I think his last update was at 4AM or so last thread.

>>150794001
Well, I'm getting close to release-time for my fangame and I wanted to put her in as an Easter Egg.

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>>150794107
Honestly the art and level design was the selling point anyway, so you could just rock that the whole way through and hope someone comes along that would want to program some new bosses.

>>150794245
Oh! Didn't see that! Looks good so far. I agree, the bumpitude could be amped up slightly.

>>150792235
He looks like crash bandicoot too.

>>150794412
Is Amy having an orgasm in the first two panels?

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>>150794412
>Amy in the first two panels
>Knuckles hitting the spring
>This entire scenario that's reminiscent of an actual boss in the genesis games
Mega Drive is why Archie needs to live

>>150794412
Thanks, but it was only because of the programming I was able to do certain things with the level design. Sonic 1 didn't have path swappers like the later games did, but instead relied on 4 level chunks that allowed for swapping. Basically 2 unique loops. Thanks to the coding, we were able to allow each act to have its own set of unique level chunks. This meant I was able to have more unique areas for each act. Coding also allowed for the transitioning day pallet. Later levels would have had unique sprites for springs and stuff that match the level theme too in a similar fashion.

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>>150794412
>>150794664
It's Sonic, what do you think?

On that note, if I wasn't committed to my own project already, I'd definitely be doing a Mega Drive fan game adaptation. I sure hope someone else steps up to the plate though.

>>150795026
It's pretty cool how this first boss is the same as the one from Ristar

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>>150795026
and the next page which is too good to not post
>>150794906
If you stuck to that, it wouldn't be bad at all. Not every Sonic hack needs to be insanely innovative and cutting edge. Vanilla Super Mario World hacks are pretty popular because of how they use art assets creatively instead of trying to be mind-blowing.

>>150795026
I was thinking through the logistics of the game. Like there's 4 of them but I don't think you should have 4 on screen. they should have a sonic 3 style select screen and you choose 2 characters. Like Knuckles and Sonic. Or Tails and Amy. Just two characters at once and you can switch off level to level.

>>150795026
>>150794906
God dammit, I've always wanted to try making a hack and play around with the games and stuff, and all this talk about such things is not helping. I wish I could into neetdom so that I could dedicate some time to it.

>>150794084
mah nigga even so, nobody could be hotter than mah burnin blaze on heat, dat lady scorches like hell on earth, she sets you aflame and melts u down when u ignite her sparks, no chill

>>150795553
SO basically just Sonic Advance 3

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>>150795591
Just use Sonic Worlds Delta.

>>150795553
So Sonic Advance 3?

>>150795737
>>150795682
Pretty much.

>>150796864
I want to play it already ;_;

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>>150796864

>>150796864
Despite all the nostalgia pandering people claim Sonic Team does (it's more like failed attempts anyway), this is classic Sonics first mainline game since Sonic Generations (and the first one featuring him alone since Sonic and Knuckles). Look at that little guy, he looks so fucking happy to be back.

>>150797110
Are you retarded?

>>150797110
They should get together and make a full 3D game instead. It's really the only thing that fans haven't done better than Sonic Team yet.

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>>150797110
>all of the sonic rom hackers and fan gamers should gather to make a game that looks and plays even better than Mania and release it before it comes out, you know just to piss sega off.
Why the everloving fuck would they want to spite their own kind? Especially Taxman and Stealth. This isn't something they would antagonize. This is what they had been hoping would happen for years.

I can't even fathom how ridiculous your post is.

>>150797110
>looks better than Mania
>romhack
How? Sonic's sprite alone is impossible for a genesis rom because it has 108 colors

>>150798014
you are right, a fangame then

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Anyone like to see the continuation of Sonic 3 and Knuckles Hyper Sonic run from yesterday's stream?

Mic will be enabled and I will be doing some few Humble Bundle Key drops during stream.

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>>150798153
Oh boy can't wait for the Sonic Worlds Engine made in MMF2. Hmmmmm that's way better then the Retro Engine.

And you are fucking retarded

come on, guys we have fags who draw and write better than archie, fags who know how to compose music with that good ol sonic vibe and fags who gather to make games that look and play this good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4y9-_yxsa8

the question is, after suffering things like 06....... do we even need sega anymore?

>>150798617
>Write better than Archie
Maybe Dark Ages Archie, but I have yet to see anyone that can write as good as Flynn and co

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>>150798617
This is getting sad

>>150798548
Worlds or Worlds Delta? Worlds Delta is the best "easy and readily available" Sonic fan game engine. Worlds is an older version of Worlds Delta and has crappier physics (which is what BTS and ATS use). It's by no means as good as Taxmans engine, but for now it's the best the public has.

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>>150798617
How about you Fuck off and find out?

>>150798617

99% of fangames are unfinished due to the fact that the dev teams have little to no experience in working as a team and getting shit done in a timely manner.

so yeah, we kinda need Sega if we want to actually play a Sonic game. Whether or not it's a good one is another thing.

>>150798971
>Worlds Delta?
That, but does it really matter? The Retro Engine beats the shit out of it, with its multiple features including things like the online capability.

>>150798617
all im saying is, we have all the necessary dots, all we have to do is find a way to connect them and keep them like that.

i know it sound crazy, but just for a sec allow yourself to consider that

>>150790320
Cream is a little kid anon. I can't waifu a Sasami.

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>>150798617
Anon any given sizeable fanbase has better talent than the actual devs, but it's found in such hard to find minorities that no good franchise should ever have to survive off fanon and fan-works
There's Mega Man fans who would be better at making Mega Man games than Capcom, but that doesn't mean Capcom shouldn't make Mega Man games anymore.

>>150799326
Considering how fragmented and autistic the fanbase is, getting them together is impossible

>>150799326
Yeah, and if we support fangames instead of official products, the franchise dies. See
>>150799393
>>150799228

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>>150799320
that's great and all but I'm pretty sure the Retro Engine isn't free-to-use, which I thought the point of his idea was engines that any of us fucks here could grab and use, since he's claiming fans can do stuff better than the Mania Team.

>>150799326
Anon with big Sonic Retro Community Projects like the "Mobius Engine", "Sonic 2 HD", and "Project Sonic Retro" failing you should fucking know there is no way they can pool together all their assets and make a game rivaling Sonic Mania under a year. Get the fuck out.

>>150799393
>Anon any given sizeable fanbase has better talent than the actual devs, but it's found in such hard to find minorities that no good franchise should ever have to survive off fanon and fan-works
>There's Mega Man fans who would be better at making Mega Man games than Capcom, but that doesn't mean Capcom shouldn't make Mega Man games anymore.

well at least someone took the time to think and write a reasonable counterargument instead of complaining, and expressed his point of view in proper language, thank god.

>>150798402
sure

>>150799708
That's the point, they can't make a game better game with those public engines. Mania on the Retro Engine would be better. I'm arguing the communities ability to make a game better then it under a year.
>>150799839
Anon shut up

>>150799393
>There's Mega Man fans who would be better at making Mega Man games than Capcom, but that doesn't mean Capcom shouldn't make Mega Man games anymore.

If anything, it means they should work even harder. I mean, you can't let the fans beat you at your own "GAME".

>>150799839
I neglected to mention the biggest point
Fan-games cannot legally profit
Therefore, fan-teams cannot be paid, at least not by the distribution of their product
Unpaid devs = lazy devs
lazy devs = nogames
This is why good, fleshed out fan-games are like finding a unicorn's left nutsack in a pile of needles hidden inside a haystack.
Freedom Planet started as a fangame, they realized they can make money if all their characters are OCs, and they fucking went with it no matter how much they obviously wanted to use Shadow.
On top of this, no profit means no advertising, which means Sonic will become completely irrelevant to anyone who wasn't a diehard fan

tl;dr: fans can't hold up a franchise on their own because of copyright law and limited talent

>>150799965
C&d

>>150800471
Thanks for posting this for him, this should be obvious to understand.

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>>150800471
>Freedom Planet started as a fangame, they realized they can make money if all their characters are OCs, and they fucking went with it no matter how much they obviously wanted to use Shadow.
>they removed the rolling mechanic after one demo
>mfw
THAT'S THE BEST PART OF A SONIC GAME, WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT

>>150800471
A way around this is to put up something like a patreon for people to fund your general work, with the fangame just being one of them.
That's what the SMBZ guy had to do.

>>150800809
Because rolling is trademarked, just do a ground cyclone.

>>150800824
>That's what the SMBZ guy had to do.
And look how well that worked.

>>150800928
Actually, it worked out rather well.

>>150800928
Well, we don't know how well it's worked because he hasn't fucking done anything since.

>>150800634
well there will always be sites like kickstarter and paypal donations, maybe it's still too early but maybe the fan base could grow independant at some point in the distant future, instead of dealing with shitty official games and complaining later on swearing we wont give sega another chance over and over like we been doing in recent years

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>>150800925
Is that confirmed or just speculated?

>>150800925
Really is there any other mechanic that is trademarked?

>>150801123
If it's in Sonic and also in FP, then it's safe to say it's fair game.

C&D'd Sega is fine with fangame and hacks, but they're not going let you make something to fund your fan game. At that point just pull a Freedom Planet.
>>150801119
It was joke about how it's Sonic most iconic move. And if Lilac used it should would be even more of a donut steel like her original design.

>>150801058
Yeah, instead of supporting the franchise and actually keeping the franchise and IP afloat in the eyes of the people that are in charge of the franchise, let's invest in fans on the off chance that they'll actually make something, much less something consistently better than what Sega puts out. You're relying on a lot of things to fall into place, including the kind of game they'd even want to make. And that's assuming Sega doesn't immediately shoot down any kind of Kickstarter related to Sonic, especially a game, since as of now, they fucking own the IP.

You're only remembering the times the fan creators deliver. You seem to forget that 90% of fangames, even good ones, either get put on indefinite hiatus, or just plain never come out and get cancelled.

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>>150801352
>It was joke about how it's Sonic most iconic move.
oh, you had me scared for a second cause I wanted to keep rolling in my platformer. shits too fun.

>>150801058
Miss posted read the C&D'd part >>150801352
>>150801631
I hope your original game is fun anon.

>>150801374
im not saying that it would be possible in this present day and time, im just saying we have some tools, some good tools, maybe not all the tools, but if someday we had them....maybe we could work this out

we already have an upcoming game that looks like an improved fangame, and two fans hired by sega due to their talent

>>150801119
I'm surprised it isn't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZvD2IOvop8

Skip to 5:00.

>>150792952
Which one?

>>150802132
That's a pretty mundane game mechanic to patent.

>>150802000
>we already have an upcoming game that looks like an improved fangame, and two fans hired by sega due to their talent
Yeah, we do. And you wanna know how to really support the fans? Instead of calling for the fans to make a fangame to "outshine" Mania, how about actually spending money on Mania to show Sega that we want more games like it and to support Taxman and Stealth.
And you keep talking about having the tools, but as long as Sega owns that fucking IP, you can't monetize the fan games unless you pull a Freedom Planet and change so much it becomes its own thing.

Your idea holds no fucking water and would result in the death of the franchise as we know it, because again, you insist on doing something that would be completely counterproductive to keeping Sonic alive

>>150802000
There is nothing wrong with making fan games and hacks. And its great that they hired Taxman and Stealth they know what they are doing. But a series can't and shouldn't survive as only on those those fan hacks and games.

That's why I blew up on >>150797110 because why the heck would you want that community to rise up and try to attack this game. They should and are happy that people from the top of their ranks raised up to work on a official game. And that this can be a change for the better.

>>150802324
just any drawfag that feels like drawing but is short on inspiration and would like us guys at /sthg/ to come up with ideas for him, i dunno just thought it could be a fun activity to share with everybody

>>150802482
>how about actually spending money on Mania to show Sega that we want more games like it and to support Taxman and Stealth.
im still buying mania when it comes out, dont panic.

Why do people have so much trouble with the rising chemical water in Chemical plant? It's not that hard.

>>150804125
You mean people reminiscing when they were like 7 on their megadrive or do grown-ass adults and teenagers suck at it somehow?

>>150804125
It's not hard, no. It's just an intense scenario, is all.

>>150804125
Because when you're playing it as a kid all you know is there's rising water which means holy fuck you need to get to the top quickly and you don't know where the top is so you try to go as quickly as possible which means you miss some jumps or get yourself squished and then you eventually get to the top but miss another jump and end up back in the water and fuckfuckfuck.

It's easier when you're not a kid.

>>150804125
Panic

>>150804851
The magic wore off for me when I realized the water didn't keep rising until I moved past a point and that if I fell off I could climb back up no problem.

>>150804125
>Why do people have so much trouble with the rising chemical water in Chemical plant? It's not that hard.

it was so funny how water would lower down if you backtracked on purpose on certain parts instead of going up

are there more booru sites like the ride that specialize only in sonic imagers ?

>>150801119
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was, even if it's a stretch there's still the issue of companies being trigger happy with C&Ds so you have to cover your bases