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Rank 8 Archers: https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=564

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>Can I play the game now?
YES YOU CAN (Get it on steam)! Rank 8 Soon™

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd

This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding.

>Add-ons:
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
http://pastebin.com/PrCkZ21n

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : dead
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
Clover (Karga)
Database (Cattly)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
FOE (Jinsae)
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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>no cattly posting beyond this line

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Futureproof is the strongest guild in the world
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Where will you be when imc cucks elememes by giving druid3 true aoe carnivory attribute?
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/Ohayou/ when?
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>>150472946
I love Cattly!
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>>150472971
Depends on what you define as strong.
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Kayori...
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What do I put points into after Broadhead 15 and Magic Arrow 10?
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>>150473012
>Blessing +70
>Rune Mace at 157
>The failed merchant of the Elevator guild
Good thing he dropped that idea
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>>150472924
5 dma, then anything.
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Necromancer skelletons scale with magic attack?
the skill just says magic

or is their damage fixed and just scales with the attribute?
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>>150473217
>he put points in dma
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Remember not to neglect your collections /tosg/!
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>>150473391
What do you put points into? Crossfire seems like shit, Bodkin seems like a 1 point wonder, Barbed looks okay for cloth but shit for anything else.
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>>150472981
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>>150473060
>>150473495

>>150472946
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>>150473124
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So with sage coming into r8, what would be a viable build path?
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>>150473714
Only thing we know is that duplication works with pyro fireballs and pillars.
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>>150473714
It's pretty much Fireballs Galore: The Class, so 4/7 ranks leading up to it are a given.
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>>150473695
I wonder how tight her teen cunny is...
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>>150473714
So far all we've seen is that it's basically RC for pyros. I really hope it isn't.
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>>150473695
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whats the command to look at my guild members character info from across the world?
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>>150473535
>Rance when Oracle C3 hits
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Fwee
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>he hasn't joined CuteNotLewd for GvG, ET, hamsters, and lavish weeb parties at the /cnl/ mansion with qt grills

Why are you even here?
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>>150474173
A-are any of CNL actually girl(female) though?
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Does QS3 running shot on mount attack slower than unmounted?
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>>150473695
>>150474010
RIP KAYORI
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>>150473391
ktos recent patch just halved the cooldown of that skill.
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>>150474173
>CuteaNdLewd ERP hacker guild trying to recruit boys
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>>150474631
what did she leave ?
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>>150474173
>>he
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>>150473695
Delete this
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Hello Senpais!. About to start playing and I'm interested in starting either a Mage or an Archer. I've been lurking for a while.

Which one is easier? I've looked at some footage on youtube and it seems that they both have a lot of ground targetting which seems pretty difficult.

After looking at each classes' skills and costumes, I'm leaning towards Musketeer and Warlocks.

I know about the elememe. Is there a Warlock build that doesn't require going Ele3? because I don't really like channeling.

I'd like to be able to farm efficiently as well as this will be my first character.

I've looked up some typical build paths for Musketeers. Is it important to take Falconer? I'd rather not have a disgusting eagle following me unless the circling skill doesn't require having one.

Also, as an archer, I know I need about 50-70 con. Should I allocating more into dex for crits and dogdge or strength for the buffs?
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>>150475145
>Not Pizza Dough 1 > Tomato Sauce 1 > Cheese 3 > Pepperoni 2 > Murmillo Sausage

Step it up.
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>>150475145
>>150475319
get a trip
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>>150474380

That's classified information for members only.
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>>150475390
eat some pizza
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>>150475146
ground targeting is easy
ele3 is not (or barely, but its fast) about channeling

both can be good for farming
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i clicked spectate so i couldn't even join the game to help. well, that's it i guess. pedropan who? i'm over it.
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I LOVE THIS VIDEO GAME
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>>150475146
Ele3 doesn't have any channeling spells though. You just need to cast quickcast to reduce the cast times and tada~
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>>150475319
Nohva's virginity will be mine
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>>150475490
We'll see next time, I'm one of the 280s in FP and am having to redownload a bunch of files on my connection so I couldn't participate today.
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>Use full draw on a sword not using pain barrier
>It does absolutely nothing
>No damage pop up
>No dodge
>No block
>It just does nothing and I die to him slapping me with his sword
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Name the most atrocious thing you've seen in tbl.

>4 priest/monks stand in one safety zone, waiting for enemy frost cloud to kill them
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>>150475146
The strongest most spammable ele spell is instant cast. Also there's cast times but no channeling.
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What stats should I use for my Sword 1 Pelt 1 Hop 2 Corsair 3 Shinobi pve build?

100 con 200 str?
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>>150475490
Atom here.

Lolipedro cucked again!

Atom out.
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>>150475627

>virginity

She's been in Cutenotlewd for a whole day now, I have bad news for you anon...
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>>150475490
>zilver
>jace
>friend
>evergarden
Did valhala gather all scumbags?
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>LP is forced to throw the GvG or else Atom won't give her a dickings
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>>150475815
yep

don't forget dvine and atom
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>>150475490
>Evergarden
Way to go, trash.
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HELP
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>>150473993
>>150473832
Wizard C3 > Pyro C3 > Linker > Sage?
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>>150476147
>Stronger than Koenig-sama

Woah...
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>>150475815
>Evergarden quits futureproof and the game to get his life back together
>Returns in barely any time after accomplishing nothing, joins FOE
>Quits FOE after Futureproof beats them in GvG
>Joins Valhalla
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>>150476360
Why didn't he just say he'd be gone for a little bit?

Dude was gone for like a week, the fuck?
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When do we get the info of r8 cleric??
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>>150476147
Atom isn't even online, queue again pls lolipan
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>>150476481
In 2 days
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>>150476360
>Futureproof goes on a winning streak, beats Valhalla multiple times
>Evergarden quits Valhalla and begs Loli to join again
>Being a cuck Loli let's him back in
>FP starts losing again and Evergarden 'quits'

Rinse and repeat
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>>150476160
I wouldn't be theorycrafting a build for a class that isn't out yet. For all we know sage could combo even better with something that isn't pyro, for instance, if it could clone sorc summon then that would basically solve the problem of sorc being a dead end shit class.
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>>150476360
Well, you know, some people wants to play PvP competitively, and right now, none of the 4chan guilds offer any threat in GvG, even tho, some can do well in 5v5/2v2 they can't work together for their lives in line.
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>>150475691
>using anything that isn't a 50 foot radius AOE in PvP
Welcome to desync hell where nothing fucking registers.
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>>150476575
I want Sorc and Necro to both be dead end shit classes so no one plays them. Just like Wugushi.
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>>150475146
qs3 a2 scout musket is a common build
circling mainly helps multi shot and covering fire but scout has more utility in pvp and cloak mobility

i do not recommend qs + musket as a first character
weapon swap lag and untradable weapon (didel gc) from level scaling 240+ instance (saalus) makes it very painful
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>>150476756
Necro can't be a dead end shit class because it'll finish decently at r8 (assuming you build wiz3 as well) and be free to pick any r9.
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Karga
when you said you have 60 CON
you mean you have 60 points invested in CON, or 60 points total?
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>>150476781
Good riddance. Fuck off.
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>>150476756
Sorc is one of the most futureproof class in the game though, it will only get better as more boss monsters with unique mechanics that have the potential to become special attacks are added.

Dreaming of Rexipher's AoE mana drain.
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>>150476781
Good luck Cats!
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How do Hop3>Dop>Dragoons compare to Hop>Cata3>dragoons?
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>>150477002
>mainly scales with int, not magic attack, when every method of boosting damage via refines/gems/awaken etc boosts magic attack and not int
>requires several circle investments from itself and other classes to compliment it for inferior usefulness for the same amount of circles for other optimized builds
>r8 seems to be a dead rank for sorcs because the new classes are a crafter and a support class which so far doesn't seem to compliment sorc
>r7 also a dead filler rank because sorc3 is shit and warlock has low synergy with sorc
>futureproof
Right...
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I've been looking it up and I've still been having a hard time figuring out the stats. I've got the skills down, but I can't get a clear answer. For sword 1 pelt 1 hop 2 corsair 3 and then doppel for r8 and shinobi for r9, what stats should I go?

100 dex 30-50 con rest str?
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>>150475627
Too late, the cow is already making her ERP in Klaipeda.
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>>150477565
Stop talking to yourself and fuck off already.
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>>150477306
Significantly more damage due to spear lunge debuff and Dopple's skillset but less PvP potential due to lacking Rush and mobility.

I think Hoplite dragoon fits more what the class is supposed to be and a lot of Catgoons might end up rerolling to make lancer work better in their build since Dragoon 2 appears to be a front line melee fighter that supports other melee.
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>>150477475
sure
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Farming Battle Bracelet now is just retarded
Better sell the Gladiator recipes untill they become trash like Sissel
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>>150477621
Do I not have access to 2handed spears till I hit dragoon?
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What's the most trustworthy silver-selling site? I've used mmogah previously but I'm looking for something cheaper.
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Androgynous male here.
What guild would fit me?
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>>150477817
Correct
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>>150477943
Valhalla
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>>150477943
CuteNotLewd
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>>150477565
Cats don't let the catshater anons get to you.

They can eat shit
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>secret classes were supposed to be one of the selling points of ToS
>there are only 3 and they're shit
dotards???
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can we get an updated version of this?
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>>150477610
Ah, that wasn't me.

In all seriousness, sword, pelt, hop. Is it ruined?
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>doctor prescribes me amphetamines
>been playing tos for 4 days straight with only 2 hours of sleep during the maintenance
Why is this game so addicting despite being so shit?
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>>150478141
No, fuck off
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Things that would make the game better, by me:

-Optimization so ToS actually uses the rest of your computer to run
-Weapon swap lag ceases to be
-Every map has the mob density and respawn rates of places like Tenet Chapel and Novah Institute
-Roleplaying elements like actual taverns are added to towns
-Special friend logs back in after her 3 month disappearing act and whispers "Hello Anon!!!"
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>>150477943

CuteNotLewd especially if you're into crossdressing/crossplay then let's talk <3
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>>150478189
It's virtual crack.
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>>150478141
No because I stole it from the original poster and have posted it ever since in hopes of keeping our dreams alive. The original poster is likely dead, just like the one I stole this from as well.

Cats out.
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>>150478018
Ah I see. Thanks. One last question. Does Finestra and Spear lunge work with 2handed spears? Or will I have to weapon swap constantly?
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>>150478464
No, I work at Disney Land.
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>>150478464
what about FP is pedo?
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>>150478632
The leader.
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>>150478464
Lolipan was required by law to let us all in Futureproof know of his transgressions and that he is totally reformed so in the eyes of the law he is fit to continue dating Atom when Atom comes of age.
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>>150477817
Cataphracts do, if you're taking that route. Otherwise, what that other anon said.
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>6 people online
>hmmm, maybe we should try our luck in GvG
>maybe we'll have a fair match up against 6 other people, maybe 8
>queue
>it's some NEET guild with 12 people

I was hoping some other guild would have a similiar idea in mind, but in retrospect they've probably did it once and realize it's pointless and don't bother no more.
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>>150478728
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>>150478837
Did you beat Futureproof or not though?
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>>150478384
I would rather have new roleplay elements and optimization instead of events and PVP stuff desu. I wouldn't mind a long drought of events/new TP items if it means IMC is working on making the game run smoother at full speed.
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>>150478697
? He's not pedo, he's pedro
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>>150476147
>8 deaths
What. How?

>>150476309
AAAAAAAA
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>>150478910
If we can get more than 2fps I'll be happy.
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>>150478910
>>150478384
At this point, I have lost all hope that the game's optimization being improved. It doesn't need a little tweaking, it needs to be completely redone. IMC is using the same dank engine with shit performance on Wolfknights, too.
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>>150479036
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>>150479036
>8deaths
revive, and resurrection
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If I were to bother doing weekly wins on all my alts I would earn 5400 points for 3 weeks. Thats 1/4 of fucking panda.
Conlcusion? Fuck imc and panda.
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I want to see Koenig and Lolipan fight each other.
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>>150479150
You can't transfer points.

Suffer.
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does magic attack make your skeletons stronger as a necro?
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>>150479250
Only INT.
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>>150479036
That's from GBL, not TBL.

>>150479150
The only people that are going for the panda are the people who haven't bothered doing the maths for it. It would require 400 days of PvPing every single day to get it. You're only going to get the Panda around this time enxt year, if you do the event and doesn't skip any day.
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>>150479314
fug, CON necro is shit then?
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>>150479424
Yes. Full CON is a dvine disinfo meme that none of the other Necros agree with.
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>>150479327
The panda is a trick to keep us neets busy while IMC cashes in.

The truth is that there isn't a panda. That item doesn't exist.
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>>150479246
But I just did?
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>>150479059
>>150479039
I still have a bit of hope for IMC to optimize this game, but until then I don't think I'm going to hop back in the game unless there's a big update or some other major reasons

I still miss you CnL
and Lalaco
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>>150479485
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Everyone is quitting but I'm still here

AND

I've never been name dropped
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>>150479540
>>150479059
>>150479039
>>150478910
it looks like they removed the optimization they did in the past with that merge. shit is running a lot worse recently.
fucking imc. cant they do anything without fucking up something.
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>>150479689
Hold onto your namedrop virginity as hard as you can, because once it's gone they never stop.
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>>150475146
This is quite unorthodox but I recommend rolling the a2qs3 first while you get used to the game. You can then put it on hold when you hit 90 or 130 and use it to farm the 90 dungeon for ardes or the 130 dungeon for silver and Petamion. That will make your elememe's life easier as it provides some gear and silver for attributes funding.
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Is multishot circle 2 a game changer in rank 6-7? Or it's ok not taking an archer 2 and take ranger 1?
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>>150479771
Archer2 is mainly for 100% uptime swift step with the attribute.
Multi does fall off in face of late ranks skills, but it's still pretty good and you get a half charge time attribute for it in c2 too.
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Fuck it I give up

I'm done
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>>150479771
I think at that point it's Swift Step attribute that's the game changer
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>>150479990
Fuck it I give up

I want Kusarihime back
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>>150479470
>being salty you got shit on in gvg without me even being in the game
you aren't somebody who will ever speak for other necromancer retard. full con is better in that joke of a minigame called arena if you can afford attributes
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If I do the level 145 dungeon and mission dungeon 6 times each, will I hit 175? I need inspiration to get me through this.

I'm level 145 ;_;
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>repeatable quest 1/5: defeat the nearby monsters (0/10)
>2 spawns
explain this
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>wake up
>going to Tenet
Good morning /tosg/
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Today I'm going to use all 14 of my dungeon reset scrolls and go into shaoulai 45 times. That would give me 360% experience (since a boss there gives about 2%) which would be enough to push me into Maven range since grinding in storage is extremely retarded without a specific ideal party due to very low mob density. Life is good.

Oh, and maybe I'll drop a petamion from 45 harpeia cubes with some rerolls mixed in.
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>>150480152
that'll get you to 160-165
from there you card to 178
and quest+card to 190. do that dung to like 205. then card to 211 and grind or card more

175 dung is low exp
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Give me the best build and stats that isn't completely gear reliant also lag proof.
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>>150480357
arent there like a 100 new quests to do for level 11 cards?
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>>150479327
If you do the event on 10 characters, which isn't unreasonable, you only need half a year of daily PvP for the Panda. If you have any intentions of saving up for it now is the time to abuse this shit. Chances are there will be another PvP event in the next 6 months as well making it even easier to get it.
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>>150480152
>Will I gain 30 levels
No
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>>150480357
This may be terminal autism.
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>>150477943
>male
Database
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>>150480558
not (You)
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people still play this? I thought everyone stopped playing near the end of early access
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>>150480357
maven is not better tho. often hard to get any full party.
i rather stay a little longer in storage

>>150480476
9 maps of new quests. they dont give very much (at 26x or so)
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>>150480357
Abbey isn't going to be any better for parties. Should make friends with people and get into good parties that way, or maybe you just play a build that screams carry me so all the better groups avoid you from the get go.
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found the emperium guys
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Has anyone used TOSkore? Is it very reliable? I want to try it out but I haven't really heard anything about it.
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>>150480645
kek. Now if only we could have a proper WoE..
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>>150480619
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>>150480476
I've already done all of them though. And I have all the maps explored. The only way to get more cards is to kill monsters on very high level maps for kill counts, I'll probably do that too later, though Maven grind should be enough.
>>150480519
Why? It's a lot faster than grinding storage. And not so mind-numbing.
>>150480625
At my server there are always 2-3 parties at Maven. It's a lot harder to find a party at storage. And Maven gives a lot more kk/hour.
>>150480627
I play a tauntbot so it's enough.
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If I get Scout and Wugushi, can I Stealth after poisoning people?
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>>150480619
It's a niche game with a niche playerbase so it will live even if it's just ok with a lot of issues since there's not a lot of games like it on the market.
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>>150480501
>If you do the event on 10 characters
>which isn't unreasonable

Please go over the figures again.
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>>150480832
yes although they'll just eat an antidote and your entire arsenal is useless
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>>150480852
I'm amazed the company is still running
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>>150480809
>At my server there are always 2-3 parties at Maven. It's a lot harder to find a party at storage
oh wow. at klaipdo its the opposite..
shout full of storage, evac, alemeth. but rarly maven and a pain to find ppl.
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>>150480832
No, you cannot.

Actual Wugushi Scout here. Each tick of any of your poisons will take you out of stealth because they count as you doing damage.
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>>150480152
maybe 150-152
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>>150480863
Doesn't take longer than a day to get a character to lv100 and be able to participate in TBL. Getting enough wins isn't guaranteed at that point since you can't carry, but you get so many chances if you stay ontop of the time slots it's more likely than not that you will get them.
Pretty much anyone that's dedicated enough to seriously consider going after the Panda will already have 5+ alts at R7 in the first place, it's not exactly difficult.
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>>150480357
Siauliai mate. Sh is probably the correct sound, the s has those inverted ^ in Lithuanian
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>>150480558
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>>150480996
Fuck.

I was thinking of going Archer2 Ranger Wugu 3 Scout Mergen. Should I just do Archer2 Ranger Wugu2 Fletcher3? Mergen looks really good though. They should make it so Wugu sell the antidotes, so only traitor scum Wugu make them.
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>>150481202
His cape in Helman Revolution is so fucking sick.
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>>150481094
>Doesn't take longer than a day to get a character to lv100
This is an outright lie. Not to mention you need to be Rank5, so it's actually around 127.

>Getting enough wins isn't guaranteed at that point since you can't carry
So you're just cancer that AFKs during the match and bothers people trying to actually play the game? Alright, figured this was the type of person who would argue about this.

Also, do points from all your characters accumulate altogether? And if you really went through all this trouble, wouldn't it be more reasonable to just get the Gem Abrasives instead? That's a much wiser use of points.
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>>150481226
Stop trying to make Wugushi work and just play Fletcher like everyone else.
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>>150480558
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>>150481831
UHMMM BACK OFF???

thats rances cow YOU SHIT
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When will Mr. Kim realize Korea is irrelevant and listen to the west?
Just looked up a video of Wolfknights and it looks like it should have come out one or two years ago. So far from what is shown its just a shittier BDO, with some of the blandest looking combat in the arpgmmo genre.

Why does IMC hate ToS anons?
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>>150481226
Those builds all kind of blow to be honest, they would be playable but not very good. We don't know too much about the R8s yet but Archer2 Ranger1 Scout1 Fletcher3 Mergen looks like the obvious choice right now. If you desperately want to have Wugu just go with the A2 Sap2 Wu2 Cannon meme and grab Cannon2 at R8.

>>150481414
>This is an outright lie
I always go straight for the lv90 dungeon when making new characters. Takes maybe 10-12h to get to there from zero if you know what you are doing, so nah, I don't think it's unreasonable at all.
And yes, the points get mailed to you in the form of consumables, you can stack all of them on a single character if you like. Gem exp you can get in many ways, but this is the only chance to realistically get the panda companion, kind of a waste to spend those points on them if you think you are going to be PvPing for more than a couple weeks.
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>>150481910
I've seen worse games. Have you tried Riders of Icarus? That game is complete shit. I sure as fuck wouldn't play Wolfknights though.
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>>150481910
They already got their sports cars so why should they care?
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>>150473695
Is there an animated version of Kayori's lap dance?
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>>150481978
I think I'm just going to make a shitbuild. I think Sapper is completely shit garbage and I don't like Cannon.
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>>150482137
That build completely destroys all the ones you posted to be honest. If you think Sapper is bad I don't know what to tell you.
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>>150481978
>Takes maybe 10-12h to get to there from zero
How many hours are there in a day? Seriously, you neets have some distorted sense of tine
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>>150481910

What makes you think Kim doesn't care about the West? Just look at the timings for TBL and GBL in SEA and EU, it's utterly fucked.
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>>150482208
Yeah, but I don't like them. I'll just end up quitting if I'm not playing something I enjoy, and I like damage over time.
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Why won't you build a rogue3canoneer? It's a great build for arena.
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>want to play Schwarzer Reiter
>Not sure what to go between QS3, R3, or R1Wugu2
Help.
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>>150482228
I don't see the problem. I work normal 8h days and have 20mins in commune. That still leaves almost 16h of free time on weekdays. If you play 10h that still leaves a little less than 6 to sleep and get ready for work. If you can't manage your time that's on you. Never even mind the weekends
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>>150474063
anyone know this? its also the way people can like you even if they cant see you, i think?
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>>150482434
>QS3
It's all fun and games until you need a Didel.

It's hilarious how that fucking thing isn't even tradeable.
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Somehow I am always erect while playing ToS, the game is just too lewd. That never happened while I was playing Tera.
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I reached rank 7 in 5 days, I'm not doing it ever again.
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>>150482683
Pervert.
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>>150482683
you can thanks this fluid druid>>150473695
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>>150482683
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>>150482580
If Mergen's spread shot can be used with QS's running shot QS3Mergen is going to be popular farming build.
>Use bow for sanic AoE
>use didel for pure single target damage
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>>150482913
It won't be, stop being delusional. There is absolutely zero reason to believe that, we already have precedence for what the Mergen spamable will be like with both Oblique and Critical Shot.
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>>150482784
archer?
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someone take an elememe to ET plz
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>>150483058
Wiz3linker
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>>150483239

Who are you? We might be able to take you along.
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>>150481831
dumb fucking cow
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>>150483521
you are link3?
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Tree of Savior World Championship when????
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>>150483521
so uh, how did you do the last circle so fast?
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>>150483524
im only 270 tho
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Futurecucks BTFO
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>>150483682
>Not participating in iRO tournaments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAU4WEAMgJo
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I've been playing the game and reading /tosg/ since f2p (actually, I was around in the last cbt, too and I'm even in some of the screenshots I see from then) but I've never leveled a character past Lv130 and I keep rerolling alts and I rarely talk to anyone in game.

What is wrong with me? How do I stop this cycle?
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>>150484325
>literally 30 buff icons
This is how ToS will be if it survives 15 years and I can't wait for it
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>>150484394
If that's your personality, just accept it. If you're not happy, change yourself for your own betterment.
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>>150482434
R3 is best for SR because of Steady Aim among other things.

Almost all of SR abilities are multi-hit, so Steady Aim's damage boost is does well because it applies to each hit.

Wugu2 is not a good choice because you cannot use Throw Gu Pot while mounted, which is your main form of AoE DPS from Wugu. Without Gu Pot, Wugu is pretty shit so don't even bother.
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>>150484325
Videos like this one make me want to play RO again. I have to manually remind myself that Renewal is utter shit, all the good private servers are dead, none of the guys I played with 10 years ago are even considering playing again and I'm not NEET enough to invest time into two MMORPG.

That's sad.
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Wiz3Ele3War or Wiz3LinkXNecro2 for first alt on another server and only occasional play?

Pls Halp!
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>>150484846
>falling for the linker necro meme
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>>150484508
Hmm, I'm actually conflicted about it to tell the truth.
On one hand, I am still having fun and I don't feel burdened by a lot of the game's problems due to the way I play it but at the same time... a part of me does want to experience more of the game but I don't know how to motivate myself to level past that point. I tend to get bored of a character right around then and reroll a different build.

I think I've played most of the possible build combinations up til around 130 so I don't even know how much longer I can keep this up.
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is lewd characters the onlything holding you guys from quitting this autistic game
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Is Keel Hauling any good?
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>>150484890
Since when is that a meme? Teach me senpai.
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>>150484846
go link necro if its alt

elememe is boring as fck
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is Fire Wall complete garbage?

at rank 5 7hits and 3 tiles with a 45 second cooldown sounds awful

unless that's 7 hits per tile
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>>150484926
To give you motivation, you haven't personally seen the possibilities of a class build from R1 to R7. I have people doubt my class choices and it turned out to be so good in pvp.
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>>150485261
I don't even play a retarded female character so no
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>>150485612
you in to boys then
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>>150485612
What are you, gay?
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>>150485612
so you into weenies
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>>150485419
The hits are per tile. Doesn't get good unless you go Pyro3 and max it though, anything less than that and it's just not worth it.
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>>150485419
its 7 hits per tile but its affected by AOE ratio meaning larger enemies eat walls up instantly. It's rape against truffles though
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>>150485742
Firewall 10 is still leagues better than flame ground. I still don't know why people have such a hard on for that shitty aoe.
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>>150484394
Well anon, it'd probably help a lot if you joined a friendly guild. Just message one of the guild leaders in the game in the OP, or come to the meetups on Monday and ask there.

As for getting past 130, you might have to bear through it if you can't find a build you find fun. Hell, maybe joining a guild will give the motivation. Some guilds are in of a specific class/role if you wanna feel useful. Or maybe they'll give you advice and support to keep going. Who knows. Hope this helps anon. Good luck.
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>>150485657
>>150485706
>>150485712
obviously, i have good taste
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>>150485612
so basically, you suck dick??
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>>150485873
post ass
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Just got Sapper c1 and plan to go for c2, doing a bit of PvP and a lot of PvE, what skills should I level as sapper?
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>abandon a quest
>wont let me do it again
>it was a story quest
how fucked am i?
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>>150485936
You probably need to go back more than a few steps to restart it?
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>>150485782
I'm only taking pyro 1
so no firewall right?

something like this

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#212.1123354551.15354174
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Never made a Swordsman before

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11322299.354555.253545.2f657a8a95.1a315a617583

4str:1dex:1con

Aiming Doppelsoeldner 3 on rank 8.


Anything that I should change?
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>>150486132
>https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#212.1123354551.15354174
Flare is completely worthless, just take 5 in Ground instead
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>>150485873
>obviously, i have good taste in boys, cuz im a faggot
ftfy
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>>150485936
Check your "Abandoned Quests" tab.
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what's the point of doing GBL
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>>150486362
Seeing who is the best brit.
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Let's settle this once and for all

http://www.strawpoll.me/10902758
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>>150486362
>fun
>salt
>rewards
>fucking faggots
if shit would work ofc
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>>150485612
>There are people with female kinos
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>>150486362

literally rolling in free TP right now fampai
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>>150485930
Required: max boom trap and max punji
Anti air: Detonate Trap lvl 1 or 5 or max
Utility: Stockades lvl 1, you can max this but optional
Secondary Anti air: Claymore lvl 1 or 5, it's buffed but is still beaten by max detonate against air.
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WILL R8 SAVE THIS DEAD GAMU?
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>>150486124
it wasn't this
>>150486342
it was this

thanks m8s
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>>150486449
what if im not gay?
>>
What are the pros and cons of joining your guild?
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>>150486694
+ERP
-ERP
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>>150486362
make pvp builds feel useful
>>
FIX THE GOD DAMN BUGGED OUT COSTUMES AND HAIR IMC. I SOLD MY ASS TO DRESS UP MY SLUT AND I WANT TO SEE HER.
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>>150486172
>pelt1
Into the trash it goes
Seriously, you don't need pelt1 anymore AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE NEW GUARDIAN CHANGESS
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>>150486172
>4str:1dex:1con

to

>full str
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>>150486694

CuteNotLewd

+Does World Bosses
+Does Earth Tower
+Does GvG
+Does Hamsters
+Very Social and Friendly
+Cute Asian Girls in Discord
+Very flirtatious
+Hot Steamy ERP
+Cute Crossdressers
+IRL Lolita Meetups
+CNL NEET mansion currently being crowdfunded

Cons:

+There aren't any though? lol
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>>150486172
>Doppel3 with pelt
The absolute madman.
>>
>>150476781
good riddance fuck off
>>
>>150487239

I forgot:

+Free Lifetime Supply of Milk to All Members
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>>150486172
to be honest hl1 into barb3 is better than pelt1 into hl3, but whatever
drop your dex and go 3:1 strcon until 70 con
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>all these triggered cucks with female characters
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>>150487504
post ass
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>>150484325
Why is everyone a fucking monster?
>>
>>150486183
>>150486132
>completely worthless
Flare makes your pyro fabulous. If you don't have it, you're one of those shitty pyros.
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>>150487545
ass
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>>150487605
hahaha bet you don't have a nice supple butt
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>>150486509
Is collar bomb any useful? I've heard of people having troubles actually getting it to work. And is it worth picking up one conceal for PvP?
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>>150487239
Social, Discord, Crossdressers, ERP, flirtatious, and IRL meatups are all cons.
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>>150487698
It is super nuggy, but also works pretty damn well with snow rolling and hangman knot.
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>>150487239
- cow eating my grass
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>>150487307

>current year
>still think pelt 1 is necessary
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>>150487239
does cnl really have their own discord? somebody post cnl discord i wanna join
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>>150487239
>erp
in
to
the
trash
>>
>>150487239

Post discord link
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>>150486473
t. Moesaki
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>>150487883

It may or may not exist but you have to be invited. Can't have non confirmed cute people joining or it would become a cesspool like the FOE discord.
>>
Reminder that archer R10 will be cossack!
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>no spellsword class
>no magic gunner class
>no electromancer
>no geomancer
Literally what the fuck is wrong with IMC?
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HELP PLEASE I DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN THE DATABASE ANY MORE
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>>150487797

>Social, Discord
>cons
how dos it feel 2 b autism

>Crossdressers
>con
what are you gay??????

>Flirtatious
>con
because you're so boring you couldn;t be flirtatious even if you wanted to or else you'd know it's the funnest thing :^)

>IRL meatups
>con
pic related
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>>150488172
>no geomancer

You're forgetting Earthquake 15.
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>>150487239
I won't believe there are grills in CnL until we get some kinda proof like Comfy's photo. I bet Katz doesn't post much because he is just busy erp-ing and fugging with the real girl all day.
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>>150485354
Thank you
Tentacles do seem more fun!
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>>150488491

No one asked you to believe it and no one's going to post photos. Katz is married too, silly.
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>>150488572
You can ride shoggoth at c3
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>>150488283
Don't you EVER reply to me or my wife's son ever again.
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Is Archer2>Ranger2>Fletcher3 or Archer>Ranger3>Fletcher3 better? Also should I prioritize STR or DEX? Thanks in advance!
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>>150488491

Also anyone who uses the term "real girl" unironically is pretty disgusting tbqh you wouldn't get in the guild anyway
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>>150480152
Just press "N" and check the maps for your level range.
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>>150487239
Can one of the gulls post a co-ord of theirs?
>>
Is there any way to have a ice focuced attacks on an offensive build?
I want a cute ice wizard destroying shit up.
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>>150488902
Archer 2, Ranger 1, Scout 1, Fletcher 3. Believe me, I didn't take scout on launch and I'm deeply regretting it.
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okay guys im wizard 3 and i want to end up at featherfoot. i want it to be as good at pvp as a featherfoot can be. i know it might not be TOP TIER but just as good as i can get.

what u suggest for inbetween, what will make me the most EPIC xxxvampireslayaxxx.
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>2 v 2
>everyone is a swordsman
>literally Dark Souls

You know I think there should be a [Your Class] only mode.
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>>150488990
Cryo Icewall + Kino Psychic Pressure + Rune Caster Rune of Ice, I guess. One trick pony, though, and weak if it whiffs.
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>>150488908
Heh getting triggered by that, is CnL a tumblr guild or something?
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>>150488990
1000 average matk with full int (lowball)
+500 or so matk from thauma3 = 1500 matk
+700 or so from icewall 19 = 2200 matk
wiz3 = +50% matk = 3300 matk

20 tiles
20 hits from each tile
runecaster buff
icewall attribute max

20 x 20 = 400
400 x 3300 = 1320000
1320000 * 3 = 3960000
3960000 * 2 = 7,920,000

wiz3cryo3Runecaster gentlemean

8million damage per Icewall cooldown ***

*** please bring your pocket thauma3 and monk3 to trigger dem walls

with diev statue + chrono

ice wall 1 32 sec cd
ice wall 2 50 sec cd
ice wall 3 32 sec cd
... etc


every 3 minutes (rounded up) that's 4 icewalls

4 * 8 million = 32 million damage every 3 minutes

32 million/ 180 seconds = 170k damage per second
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>>150488296
Does earthquake increase in size at higher levels?
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>>150488990
The elementalist has one devastating ice spell: frost cloud
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>>150488990
At rank 8, wizard 3 cryo 3 psychokino runecaster will be possible.
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>>150488990
Wizard 1, Cryo 3, kino 1, RC 1. You can take anything for the missing 1 rank. Other option is Wizard 3, Cryo 3, RC 1 but then you wont have icewall pressure.
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>>150488990
well, no matter what you do you'll be more offensive than Pyro anyway.
>>
Why can't archers hit mounted enemies?

Seriously IMC?
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>>150488902
Ranger3

Full STR
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>>150489106
They should have a 1v1 swordsmen only mode, and wizards, clerics, and archers can place bets on the outcome.
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>>150488990
Elementalist pretty much is an ice mage. Hail and more importantly Frost Cloud are both ice aspected and insanely good. Cryomancer is more CC and support, there is the Ice Wall gimmick build with Runecaster but that's not particularly useful in actual play.
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>>150489083
FF is SHIT at pvp because humans are not part of the blood racial restrictions (beast, devil, insect) for FF skills to be most effective. Meaning bloodbath won't inflict the DoT bleed/heal and blood suck won't lifesteal.

Brought to you by the same gook logic that says earthquake can hit flying but rain can't.
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>>150489263
no u cant do this to me.
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>>150489305
heheheman.jpg
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>Haven't hit up the NPC that gives map cards yet today
>7 maps
>4 mobs
Granted, only played a few hours on this character today, but still.
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>>150489246
>roll a fencer
>completely unbeatable in this mode
Cool but pointless. Less balanced than 2v2 and that's actually hard to do.
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Beware the Capybara
He will steal all yours DPK
He will get Petamion recipes in front of you if you run 130 dungeon with him
He will get WBs spawns next to him while you will have to walk the whole place and miss it
When he list something on market none will undercut him
Ŕemember, beware the Capybara who made a pact with the Devil Himself
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>>150489428
You misspelled corsair3
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>>150489305
its not to late to go kino/cryo if you wanna pvp
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>>150489517
Or kino3warlock
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>>150489517
He can just go wiz3kino3warlock. Cryo isn't that great now that submeme shield was nerfed.
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>paired with r5
>REEEEEEEEE- hey wait
>wiz 1, cryo 3, sorc 1
>cryo 3
>well at least he can help me freeze the enemies
>doesn't use a single cryo skill

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
Is there a paladin build that works in PvP? I have an unbearable need to smite evil but I also want to bop people in the arena.
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that was a new kind of hell
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>>150489823
Almost the same damage as the rest of the team combined
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>>150489721
Smite is way too fucking slow to ever come close to hitting a breathing human.
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>>150489823
>zoomy
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Gravity gives out free 1500 Karat because of server issues.
>>
>>150489517
>>150489596
>>150489616
i want something pretty UNIQUE, special snowflake. is kino3warlock the hippest underground build?
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>>150489960
?
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>Can't use market for 2 weeks

Who thought this was a good idea?
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>>150490009
No, it's popular because it is effective
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>>150490009
>the strongest arena build in the game
>underground
Uhhh... Well, it's strong!
>>
>>150489721
Don't fall for the smite meme. It's cool to have it for positioning but turn undead is where the memes are at.
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>Warlock with DT
>run into him at full speed
>he dies first
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>>150490038
>>150490039
hey idk this stuff yet im not pvping im just a wizard 3.
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w-what
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No matter what the fuck I do these two Outskilled Sevenfold cuties are right on my tail.
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>>150490106
the only ultra hipster underground build for wizard is wizardc3 pyroc3
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WHY IS IT SO HARD TO HIT DESYNCING CATAS
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>>150490136
>highest 2 vs 2 is 1164
>highest 5 vs 5 is 1143
>our guy is 21 points above the highest 5 vs 5 player
i think you can slow down now
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Time to become meme supreme.
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>>150490102
Katz I really need you to stop posting these awesome fucking pouncing webms. I don't want to play a sword in TBL, my necro is doing very well. Quit making it look so fucking fun.
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http://www.tosbase.com/database/skills/40606/
The duration is longer than the cooldown? Does that mean I can have multiple barriers up at once?
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>>150490462
post necro build and stats plz
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>>150490102
wat happen
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>>150490462
Reri please go back to bee farming.
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>>150490419
>3 sword 3 high
The absolute madman.
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>>150490493
Yes, you can.
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>>150490493
you can even have 4 barriers with your own 2 barriers and 2 scroll barriers

expensive and mostly pointless, but cool
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>>150490717
>>150490653
I love that I picked the palameme.

Also my Turn Undead is now at level 7 which makes it hit 10 monsters at once. I think I could leave it at that and put the rest into Smite for soloing damage.
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>>150489452
everywhere i go i must loot
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>>150490528
Wiz3/Kino2/Necro2. 120 INT 160 CON. I recommend less CON and more INT if you want to run arena, it really sucks when your combo doesn't down somebody. Let me know if you have any questions on the specifics.
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>>150490593
3 sword
2 high
2 fencer
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How can I use Rune Caster without Cryo?
Go Elememe?
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>>150491096
There's a ton of Thaums who go Rune Caster, although I don't see there being enough of a benefit.
I guess they just really REALLY want to be a Muscle Wizard.
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>>150490846
Those guys did well that match. A lot of teams squander the 4v5 advantage and play silly and throw a round or more, but they handled it carefully and I accomplished nothing at all.
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>>150490102
>417 per hit
>not even full con
how
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>>150477919
Killyourself.com
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>>150491190
Why are you screening your losses? I wanted to meme.
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>Telekenisis a full-con cata in 2v2
>Put him right next to teammate
>Teammate never fucking attacks
>Not once

Why
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>>150491096
You don't. Rune caster is dog shit without ice rune cryo synergy.
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>>150491227
I autistically screenshot every match. I believe there's something to be learned from every loss, and I don't know much about classes that aren't Necro or archers, so it's helpful to have the names of the people who beat me if I have any questions.
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>>150491303
be a little unlikable please jackie chan this is getting ridiculous
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>>150491190
>tfw your team decides to squander the 4v5 advantage
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>>150491303
I wonder what pedro does in this situation?
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>>150491190
Spun that Rance, spun him good!
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>>150491494
A perfect example. I've seen this happen a lot. There's always a chance to win 5v4s but we just didn't play well enough to earn that win. Also Cattly's cataphract hits me like twice as hard as everybody else's, now that I remember that match. Is he full STR or something?

>>150491574
What do you mean? I don't think Pedropantalones really enjoys TBL as much as I do, but I could definitely be wrong.
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>>150491702
I have a decent mix of STR/DEX, I think that comes from the 1m or so I invested into my rush attributes. I'm also using a Galin Trident, so all my Cata skills have +1 slapped on them!
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>>150491702
I'm pretty sure in my case my team was just being fucking retards rather than the other team just being good per se. Considering it went a full 5 rounds and I did 162% of my 4 other member's damage combined it's hard to give credit to the other team when it's clear my guys were absolute shitters expecting the 4v5 to win itself.
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>>150491834
Wait what? I tried using Zega Spear in arena and my skills didn't get +1 at all.
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>>150491834
That's possible, you hit me way harder than SaviorOfTree who is the other cataphract I ran into a few times. Usually I have a good chance of surviving the full Rush duration if I chug pots during it but the disruption is always a problem - you outright killed me with it, I think. Well played, at any rate.
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>>150491893
>+1
I mean +2, whatever
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Does the game still basically require premium to be remotely playable?
Do you still have a seemingly random questing order that you basically just had to know beforehand or get fucked?
Is the economy still controlled by the iron hand of "RMT prevention"?
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>>150491834
Oh, so a bit of STR is okay on a catagoon? I was worried since I have some on mine and wondered if I should drop it if we get a stat reset potion sometimes..
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>>150491893
I'm definitely getting the +1 from it, I can say with certainty because with trot 16 I have 1 second left on the buff before I need to reapply it. If it's only 15, it runs out right before I can reapply it.
>>150491912
I pumped another million into it just now, beware I am growing stronger! I kinda focused you hard since I knew you might pose a threat, sorry about that. I am doing my best not to lose!
>>150492009
It's working fine for me, but I'm no tryhard minmaxer, I could probably be more efficient, these are my current stats.
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>>150492108
Can you check next time if in the skill description in the hotkey it says lvl 15 or 16 after the match begins?

Mine says 17 outside of arena and 15 inside.
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>>150491983
>Does the game still basically require premium to be remotely playable?
It never did, this is probably the least p2w kmmo I've ever played. Getting enough silver to buy a token/premium status from the market takes like a couple hours of just normally playing the game.

>Do you still have a seemingly random questing order that you basically just had to know beforehand or get fucked?
The different arc's quest progression is very linear, it's ridiculously easy to find where you have to go. Stop being a shitter.

>Is the economy still controlled by the iron hand of "RMT prevention"?
They didn't change anything about how the market works, anyone can trade now though with or without the effortlessly obtainable premium status.
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>>150492202
I will do my best to remember. I am fairly forgetful though! Also I forgot to mention last time, I'm not a dragoon, I'm a templar so my R7 is completely wasted for PVP. I can't advise on dragoon stuff at all!
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is there anyway to build a rouge3 and not be shit?
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>>150492360
>is there any way to build shit and not be shit?
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>>150492202
not him but my skills definitely gets +1 in arena. +16 trot etc. same with zega spear giving me +6 finestra (I'm hop 1)
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>>150492360
Archer3 Scout Rogue3 for Burrow solo boss killing memes.
Cloak, sneak behind the unaggroed boss, Burrow, kill the boss with Twin Arrows and Multishot while being Burrowed without the boss ever aggroing you.
Gimmicky as shit but lets you do stuff like solo Saalus missions with ease which not too many other builds can
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Do gems matter in arena?
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>>150492239
>Least p2w
I distinctly remember premium giving you 30% increased exp, movement speed, additional buff slots, additional dungeon runs, shit like that. Playing the game without it was a chore even for Korean games.
>Quest order.
See pic related. If you didn't know and follow this, you had to be prepared to grind. Again, far more than even you'd expect for a Korean grinding game. Was asking if this had been modified or changed.
>Changed nothing about how the market works
So still controlled by the iron hand of RMT prevention, got it. Not being able to list your own items for whatever price you want was a joke, especially when it came to hats with good stats on them.

Also, did they give any way to change at least one of your classes on a character? Getting to X point in the game only to find out that you got fucked because you didn't spend hours on a wiki was shitty on release.
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>>150492550
>I distinctly remember premium giving you 30% increased exp, movement speed, additional buff slots, additional dungeon runs, shit like that. Playing the game without it was a chore even for Korean games.
Can you even read his fucking post? You get enough ingame money to buy premium by just playing a few hours
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>>150492550
>I distinctly remember premium giving you
Yes, it does. It's not p2w when you can afford that shit within a couple hours of playing through the game normally. I have enough disposable income to easily sink hundreds into this game if I wanted to and I still don't because premium is so fucking cheap ingame you'd be absolutely retarded to spend real money on it.

>See pic related. If you didn't know and follow this,
I see, you are absolutely retarded, aren't you? Not only are half of those quests completely unnecessary, it's also not anywhere even remotely as big of a deal as you make it out to be. It takes all of 5 seconds to check your map ingame and find the next quest zones in your level range.

>Also, did they give any way to change at least one of your classes on a character?
No, and doing that would completely kill the game. Live with your choices and just make another character, it's half the game. Leveling is easy and effortless enough as is.

I feel like you aren't actually looking for a kMMO and would rather just play WoW, so you should probably go do that.
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What can I do besides druid as a C2Diev3 if I want to be more PVE orientated. I like flashy shit.
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>>150492758
And I feel like you are talking about the game now as if it was the game back then. Again, I was just trying to find out what had changed, and back then, these things were not obvious. Threads were full of people wondering why they had run out of quests and being told they had started on the wrong side, get ready to grind.
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>>150492784
Druid2
Druid PD
Druid Kaba
Oracle PD
Oracle Kabba
Oracle Druid
Priest PD
Priest Druid
Priest Kaba

All solid picks, you are welcome
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>>150486937
>>150487307

Wouldn't Swash making mobbing more effective?
For something like, Swash and Cyclone, while the monsters literally come to you?

>>150487034
I fear going full STR as sword, specially without CON or ways to heal.
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>>150492550
>I distinctly remember premium giving you 30% increased exp, movement speed, additional buff slots, additional dungeon runs, shit like that. Playing the game without it was a chore even for Korean games.
Average casual players would hardly notice that stuff. Tokens were even cheaper in early access and any idiot could've gotten one for silver in their first week. You're just looking for excuses to call things chores because you want to complain for the sake of complaining.

>you had to be prepared to grind
Boo fucking hoo, kill yourself, wowshitter. It's a game about killing monsters. If you're some kind of pacifist who can't handle the trauma of watching digital monsters die without having to take a break to click on a quest NPC every 10 kills, you might as well just hang yourself. You don't even read the quest text, either, so don't try to pretend you only play MMORPGs for the brilliant NPC dialogue.
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>>150493097
Woah that sure is a lot of projection there bud, you okay?
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What's this new
>pelt 1 is no longer needed
meme? How the fuck am I supposed to get on parties as a swordie without pelt? DPS?
>inb4 rank 8
I'm not planning on something so arbitrarily vague.
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>>150493130
As expected of such a faggot, you don't even know what a simple word like projection means. Let me guess, you saw it somewhere, English isn't your first language, and you mistook it for a generic insult.
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>>150493130
Damage control mode ON
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>Get to Sapper C2 with 12 points to spare
>Max Broom Trap and Collar bomb immediately
>Collar bomb does not go off if there is only 1 monster.

Guys help, how to trigger bomb if there is only 1 monster? I tried caltrops and pavise on the boss that has the collar bomb, nothing happens. How does Sappers single target a boss?
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Did this person get spooked while creating their character name?
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>>150493202
People pretend you only took Pelt1 for the Evasion buff from Guardian and did actual DPS, since Guardian was changed to be percentual damage reduction and defense increase it lowers your DPS by a meaningful amount now so people are crying about it when in actuality it makes no real difference since nobody ever cared about Swordsman DPS in the first place.
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>>150492550
>See pic related. If you didn't know and follow this, you had to be prepared to grind. Again, far more than even you'd expect for a Korean grinding game. Was asking if this had been modified or changed


This is the biggest misinfo that I ever saw here,

The only thing that you need to level is the Quest Addon:

Do all the quests around your level before any using cards > if when you are more than 5 levels behind, use cards and catch up again > repeat until you're 240.
From 240 is pretty much mission, storage and other high level instances/dungeons.

Remember to use Dungeon Queue for extra exp, remember to do Missions.


Done, here is the Ultimate Dark leveling guide that people in this thread always misinfo with "HURRR SAVE CARDS" and other shit.
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>>150493313
This is exactly why I'm hesitant on making a Sword3Cata3Dragoon over a SwordPeltHopCata3Dragoon. Parties won't like me without pelt, and since it is PvP focus it will do negligible dps against mobs. I've been seeing a lot of people pushing the sword dps meme since r8 announcement but will it matter really?
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>>150492832
How is kabbalist in PVE? Do the wheels deal any significant damage?
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>>150493505
then make a sword3/cata3/pelt1 and go lancer. dragoon barely does crap for cata3/sword3. people went dragoon cause they didn't think rank 8 would give them cata4 and instead they would go dragoon2
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>>150493757
Its main use in PvE is just as an SP Battery via Ein. Revenged 7-fold is useful for damage mitigation on unavoidable boss AoEs but that's fairly niche. Merka is pretty much worthless, it looks cool, but it's bad.
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>there are people still playing this
no wonder koreans keep pouring this shit into the masses
its literally free gold for no effort
just put some newbies who have no idea what the fuck they're doing, tell them to make MMO and pay them dirt cheap
they're happy for a cheap job
you're happy for cheap labor
your customers might not be happy but they'll sure as fuck parade you with money
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>>150493824
>pelt1 on r7
Is this a madman build? Do I not lose out much on not taking dragoon? Honest question, not really impressed by sword trees but making one now is more out of necessity.
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>>150484325
>2x Ephemeral Megingjard
>1x Ephemeral Mjolnir
>WoE Gear

Some top cancer to remind me why iRO is bad. has nothing to do with Renewal, even.
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>>150492550
Get fucking good, you shitter.
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>>150494109
>not impressed by c3
you obviously don't have a clue what you're looking at then. sword3 is like wizard with the new concentrate and you want a high pain barrier for pvp or pve.
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>>150493449
Remove your guild tower from Kateen.
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So how's paladin now? Like Cleric 2, priest 1, Paladin 3, PD 1?
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>>150494445
It's still just as shit as it ever was. Look at the skills.
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>>150494445
i hope thats pardoner there at the end :^)
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>>150494430
Remove yourself from my sights!
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>>150494472
>>150494469
>Muh dreams ;_;
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>>150494109
Just go Sword3 in R7. You won't be pvp'ing much until r7 anyway.
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>>150494506
I've got you in my sights.
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>>150494506
Remove yourself from your own life.
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>>150494598
it's the exact opposite. you don't need pelt1 until you're rank7 for grinding but you can do arena at rank 6 with sword3/cata3
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Why are you not queuing the lv 50 dungeon?
I just want to give you cute heals!
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>>150494109
People like to meme about dragoon being not so useful and yes, most damage comes from cata skills (rush and earth wave) but dragoon skills add up too. They are all multihit so they are noticeable in PvP (especially when leveled and attributed) so they help to be a threat while your rush is on CD. And they absolutely wreck in PvE.
Just don't level Gae Bolg besides 1 point so you can maybe once a week finish a fleeing foe at 200 hp with a super stylish spear throw.

I didn't like dragoon c2 at all so I'll go lancer after dragoon, it's literally made for PvP.
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>male squire
>high heels
Why. What is up with this game and giving everyone heels.
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Why is Sadhu allowed to be so weak and useless? Did a spirit touched Kim or something?
OOB - fun concept, once strong, absolutely useless now
Astral body explosion - useless
Vashita - useless, unless pvp
Possession - would be OK if the cooldown started when the damage started ticking, and not in the prep animation so it wouldn't be canceled 8 of 10 times
Prana - you'll never have a chance to use this properly.

How are the tosg Sadhu(I know there are some around) even dealing with several bugs, no damage, and no proper support?
Genuinely interested, I'm really trying to make it work, but once monsters start to have 120k+ HP each, it's almost impossible to go on.
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WAT DE FUG
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>>150479327
t. someone who hasn't won 15 matches and gotten a 300 point token which is available EVERY WEEK.
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>>150496657
That's still 215 days.
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>>150491205
The power of magic resist baby
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>>150495231
SSStylish!
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>>150496657
>every week
If I get one tomorrow too, I'll panic.
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>>150496886
>A 215 day grind is long in a Korean MMO.
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>>150490102
I neeeeeeeeeed this.
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>>150497613
For a freaking panda which I bet is ugly anyway. On the other hand you can get a shitton of valuable abrasives.
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So I keep seeing recruiting shouts like "have x and x and need any archer, any sword" - is it like this all the time?
Are there any specialized builds for archers and swords?
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>>150497703
>abrasives
>valuable
you can get 4 high grade abrasives per day you shitter
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>>150497760
>high grade
lol
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>>150490589
I have my own stat build, I believe I told you guys mine already.
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>>150497747
No, they want those classes just for exp bonus
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>>150497840
>he doesn't know how to get perfect scores in shooting for high grade abrasives
The type of abrasive you get from the shooting game depends on how well you score anon.
Mid grade is 3 miss or less
High grade is zero misses
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>>150497598
One was from the first week, that second one was from this week.
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>>150497964
>he still do shooting game instead of the gimmick for Lv3 Abbrasive
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>>150486172
>Oh hey, let's check this
>shield bearer in a zweihänder build
>current highlander3
>no barbarian whatsoever
I don't get you people sometimes
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>>150487239
- Exploiters
- Full of fags
- Overly defensive
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>>150486172
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11222699.1123354551.11213f4151657a8a91.144195b5.1a31415a617285
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Pls imc, no more exp tomes, they're useless.
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WHO THE FUCK DELETED DELIVERY REWARDS FROM OP
FUCK YOU WITH A RAKE
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>>150499493
Not in missions and dungeons they're not
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>>150499516
here you are qtpie

https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=544
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>>150499368
>Thrust
>Wagon Wheel
>only 1 Cartar Stroke
>max Crown and Cross Cut
>motherfucking Punish

Points into Moulinet and Vertical Slash are debate, but the latter was buffed in ktos and I wouldn't be surprised if Moulinet got some love in the future.
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>>150499606
Play the game.
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>>150499646
Not an argument.
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Hi!

Been lurking around this general for some time now and it had be download the game. I haven't played MMOs for years now, what's the best class to start with? Are team names like last names for your toons? What's the most meme build I can do? Thanks a bunch ouo
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Wouldn't you just look at this cunt trying to bait?
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>>150499776
Jesus christ are you like 10 or something?
Archer is probably the easiest class, swordsman is also easy up till level 200 before swordsman fall off hard

Archer is also good because its VERY hard to fuck up and even if you fuck up you can go musket/cannon at r7 to "fix" it anyways.
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>>150494359
>with the new concentrate
When the fuck are we getting that?
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>>150487239
>posted the worst girl

Wouldn't join your guild.
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>>150499936
>Archer is probably the easiest class
Thanks for your help, misinfo agent.
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>>150499776
>toons
You're never getting advice from me, ever.
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Extension gimmicks destroyed the Terranium market.
Soon it will kill the Mithril market too.
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>>150500291
Not really, terra is 1/20 or so, mithril is 1/100
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>>150499776
>toon

neck yourself faggot
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>>150499776
>Been lurking for a while
>Actually wants to play this piece of shit

Lurk more fampai
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>>150486172
You can't make swordie without con or dex, on top of that you will use 2h weapon and reduce your possible mdef and pdef. I don't know what content you are planning to do but if it's something like ET then you will melt in seconds after few hits.
The problem with dps swordie is not only that you deal less damage to lesser amount of targets but also your inability to not give a fuck about incoming damage. ET monsters hit like a truck and it makes the life of melee classes even harder. At least range classes can hide behind the barrier and minimize their risks but a swordie has to be on a front line and as a doppel you won't have any defensive mechanism.
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>>150500225

I'm sure he'll be at a loss without all the misinfo.
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>>150500515
not that anon but you're misinfoing hard
>You can't make swordie without con or dex
I'm 270 swordie without a single point in con, aspersion lets you take 1s from everything physical, +5 or so glass bracelets lets you take negligible damage from magic

Also stop mentioning et as if thats the only content worth doing as if everything revolves around it
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>>150499368
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11266699.23354552.253545.5a618591aabf.1a315a617181
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>>150500664
Play the game.
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>>150500651
>be a doppel mascara
>do not use deeds
It's like you don't enjoy the comfy solo grind with all those near death experience s
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>>150500749
Not an argument.
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>>150499493
just wait for the x8 concentrate exp tome.
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>>150500783
tfw we will never have the doppelmeme vs elememe argument again and reach over 150 unique ip due to autists
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At what level should I start grinding at Dina or Demon Prison?
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>>150501071
144 at demon prison if you're not a lazy bum
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>>150501071
>grinding
get a load of this faggot
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>>150501071
You only need enough cards to go from the 170-175 ded zone.
If you have enough for those 5 levels, you should not be grinding at all unless you want the social experience.

With current quests you can reach around 250-275 depending on if you do kill counts and map explorations without ever grinding.

I recommend grinding at storage at the earliest, maven preferably as they give shit tons more exp per hour compared to demon prison (around 10x as much)
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>>150501064
That was a good day.
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lvl 38 newbie here. how the fuck do i find a guild if there are almost no people around me and there's no guild list anywhere (there's a guild list on the forums but there are no names to whisper to for an invite?)
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I'm playing on a literal toaster. Can't do a dungeon without massive lag. What class should I play so I don't hinder my team so much?
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>>150501452
Peltasta. If you can move enough to pull and hold C, you'll be fine.
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>>150501442
Check OP
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>>150501442

Look at the OP, there's a guild list.

If you're on Klaipeda PM Cattly to join Database, they're still a smaller guild but they're pretty comfy and go out of their way to help out new people.
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>>150501442
READ
THE
OP
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>>150500651
I have sage wall and two glass bracelets +7 and it is not enough for ET mdef so kindly stop mumbling with your lowbob content you do. Non-ET pve is a joke.
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>>150501452
Sorc, just summon and afk
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>>150500078
>Liking a disgusting normie addicted to social media
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>>150501846
>replying to shitposting
who am i quot?
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Are swordsmans overplayed now? I've been seeing so many of them that it's dissuading me from continuing my own
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>>150502039
They all get bored before reaching r6
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>>150502039
>dissuading me from continuing my own
>being a snowflake faggot
Go be a rainbow build or lolipan-tier retarded build
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WhAts Sort of CHARACter DOES comfy NEeeD?
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>>150502603
Are you ok?
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this game HEAVILY reminds me of flyff, especially if flyff were to upate their graphics. is it just as pay 2 win?
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>>150502509
I just did a 90 dungeon and mission at level 120 and it was filled with swordsmans. literally 4 just entered (2-3 barbs, 1-2 Hoplites) and the lone Cleric 2 > Diev3. It's not about being a snowflake faggot, I just can't imagine having this many swordsmans are going to helpful for my own peltaunt when I'm trying to find a oarty.
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>>150502870
Make a chrono3, people will literally fight over you.
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>>150502920
That would involve having to make a chrono and my toaster of a computer lags too much (lags just from doing dungeon). I can really only play swordsman because taunt.
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>>150503112
Go fullautism peltasta3rodelero3 for murmillo at r8 then. I've heard that token peltasta1 suddenly becomes not enough at earth tower.
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>>150502742
GIVE Me THE ANSwWER

Or ELKSe
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>>150503170
Yeah I've been hearing that too but what's the source?
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>>150502870
Pelts are still in-demand, the majority of them already became rod polishers in town. Most of what you're seeing now are going for try-hard pvp builds.
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>>150487239
Private discord is just a circlejerk, at least shitty /tosg/ discord is available to all
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>>150503386
>tfw have token peltasta 1 in an otherwise PvP build and too lazy to level another basically the same character
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Futurepoofs BTFO yet again by Valhalla?
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>>150502603
We prefer comfy characters. By comfy, we mean legit PvP /bully/-material for GvG.
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>>150503465
>private discord is a circlejerk
>public discord is a circlejerk
>/tosg/ is a circlejerk

welcome to fucking /vg/????
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Would falconer C1+cannoneer C1 be useless for a A2/QS3?
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>>150504278
your cannon stuff and multishot will hit more targets
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>>150501071
I'm currently level 190 and didn't need to grind in those areas at all. I only tried once for shits and giggles at bees, gained one level through that splendid 1 fps experience, and then went on questing.
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>>150504364
I know, the matter is most people just take musket after falcon, so I wondered if cannon would be sub-optimal
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>>150502603

What Comfy need are active players. It doesn't matter what level you are, we can powerlevel you. Doesn't matter if you're new, we'll show you the ropes. Doesn't matter if you're PvE or PvP, we'll respect your decision nonetheless.

Doesn't matter what class you play. Instead of playing a character that is best for us, we want you to play a class that is best for you.
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>>150503651
What RE the HOTTEST pVP buILDS NOW??
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>>150504761
see
>>150504728

Any build you can be happy about, don't roll a stupid build that would disappoint yourself.
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You know, a working as intented event now and then wouldn't be bad
Now even in solo they bug
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>>150504278
>>150504523
qs3 scout cannon is good
falcon1 is not that useful unless you plan on doing ET every day and have others group mobs, just get aoe attack equips
again, i don't recommend musket
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A glowing blue Red Truffle gave me 84% EXP to level me from 228 to 229. Thank you Mr. Kim
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Is my monk going to get ANY late game party acceptances? Or am I cursed with knowing that my monk is going to absolutely completely unwanted.
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>>150505636
do you have cleric2
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>>150505636

If you have Cleric 2 and Priest 3, you'll be fine.
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>>150504761
Make a character and get yourself invited to the guild, we'll discuss your class choices there and give you advice to help you decide.
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>>150505636
if you have cleric 2 you're fine, tosg's hatred for monk is a dramatically overstated meme
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>>150505834
>>150505691
>>150505865
I took cleric2 Diev2
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>>150505925

You're fine for ET/grind parties then, don't worry.
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>>150505925
>Diev2
You fucked up by not going Diev3
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>>150487462
>>150498757

I was told that Barbarian was for PvP only, which, I have 0 interest. Also that Skyliner was pretty stronger along with Skull Swing, so I thought 3c on HL would be nice for that.

>>150487462
>>150500515
Well, full DEX swords only works for Fencer from what I saw, and Swordsman will get a bonus for STR on their abilities seems like.
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>>150506563
>i was told barbarian was for pvp only

never take advise from whomever said that ever again
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>>150506563

>Barbarian was for PvP only

M8
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>>150506563
>Barbarian
>PvP class
Lmao who told you that? Currently, barb is much better to invest circles on and you shouldn't pass up on at least one circle of Barbarian or Highlander if you're going Doppel. It's possible IMC will further buff Highlander in the upcoming ktos patches, but we have no info on when we would get their shit anyway.
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>>150506737
Holyshit that damage is insane. Is there youtube of this or just webm?
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>>150486362
Meeting with traitor scum like Evergarden.
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>>150507050

Just that. Sometimes people ask me to whack stuff to see what's the damage and I capture it with webm as proof.
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>>150507050
Now imagine that with deeds10, attributed Zucken10, Zwerchhau and Serpentine's debuff when we get r8
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>>150507267
>Zuken10
>Serpentine

I see you're ready for R9
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>>150504728
Kada of House Katzenberg, First of His Name, King of the Degenerates and the Real Girls (Boys), Lord of the Seven Channels, and Protector of the Comfy
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>>150487559
It was an EVERYTHING is allowed tournament so Gods/MVP cards/WoE sets/transformation scrolls were all able to be used.
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>>150507385
>what are teammates
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>>150507385
You just need a dragoon friend. Seriously, dragoon 2 looks strong as fuck if only for that Serpentine debuff, yet no one seems to care because they didn't get any new flashy skills I guess.
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>>150506737
jesus... Will my dragoon even compare?
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>>150506675
>>150506737
>>150506969

I guess misinfo agents almost got me then.

I'll be follow the build that some anon posted up there then: https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11266699.23354552.253545.5a618591aabf.1a315a617181

Thanks for all the help.

Looking forward for when we get Doppel 3.
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>>150507771
Katzenberg is hitting a mob weak to slash and has 77% enhanced Cleave. R8 will probably be awesome for dragoons, PvE wise
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>>150507815
only change i would make is putting the 1 pt in frenzy into giant swing; 1 point frenzy is worthless so you might as well get access to the fun meme
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>>150485591
>>150485865
Well, thanks for the advice.
I don't think I'll ever make it to the Monday meetups though 'cause I'm a wagecuck who is at work for 11 hours on Monday, but for the rest... I'll keep it in mind.
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>fps drops down to 3
>client goes white

why this
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>>150507815
That was me btw. The only thing I want to point out is how Doppel seem to suffer from "not enough skill points" at c3. If Redel and Zucken's attributes are really that good, you probably won't even need Cyclone that high. Problem is that currently, doppel is pretty much Cyclone: the class, so giving up on it way too early means hurting your dps, since Zucken and redel are far from good damage at r7

You'll want to either max Zucken/Redel/Zwerchhau as soon as you hit r8 depending on how good they will be too, so saving more points is valid

>>150508029
There are three points left for Barbarian, I didn't use all of them because I wanted to give him some leeway.
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how bad is full CON necro on pve? can I still AFK farm like a pro and do quests solo? or will I be super gimped?
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>>150506737
you are my favourite guild leader katz

sadly i play with my best friend in klaipeda but still you are my favourite best leader.
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>>150507401
you forgot Savior of the Trees, and Jesus of the MMOS

build this man a fucking statue already
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When should I start using Squires to repair gear?

Should I be doing it when npc repair and squire repairs are similar in price?
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>>150509569
I personally never do it 'cause I'd rather my silver exit the economy
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>>150509309
Your summons will have reduced damage obviously. With the upcoming skelly attribute buff, yours will fall off in damage output. If you don't mind that, go ahead.
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>>150509729
>I am not the only one who thinks like this

I rather pay more than to support someone else. Even more so on a game where Silver buys you damage.

You guys don't buy services from SquireTemplars from other guilds, r-right?
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My Blessing gives +280 now! I'm pretty excited for 300 and beyond.
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>>150480558
Mia Mia
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>>150510076
Are you pure SPR or do you have some DEX? If no DEX, what's your hit rate like? If you do have DEX, how much?
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>>150510259
Pure SPR.

I don't have any problems hitting stuff.
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My Sapper's Collar bomb gets resisted sometimes by magic monsters. What stat should I pump for resistance penetration? I'm thinking Int but I might be wrong.
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>>150510259
I'm 100 con and rest SPR. Hitting stuff isn't an issue and if there ever is an enemy I have trouble hitting, Montrance really comes in handy especially since SPR scales it as well.
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>>150510331
I don't think there's a way that you can bypass resistance to something. If there is, it's probably a hidden stat like SPR and resist rate.
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>>150510076
500+ or get out of my party
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Get it while its hot (source: ktos korean bot handler)

>Hidden Class: Murmillo
*requires peltasa 1
*requires rodelero 1

>Fishman Visor
reduces movement speed by 4
reduces evasion by 75%
50% chance to evade physical AND magic attacks
all Peltasa and Rodelero skills gain extra damage
few peltasa skills gain slash attack along with strike
all(?) peltasa and rodel skills have their overcharge replaced by 1 cooldown except for few skills
cant use other skills from different class
lasts 16 seconds

>Grand entrancee
stuns targets for 2 seconds

its incomplete but should be enough as a pathway
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>>150510331
Theres no such thing
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>>150510443
>Monstrance
I assume you have more than 1 point in it then, yes? 'cause that circle's placement is so random.
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>>150510534
What's the highest blessing you've ever seen? 500 seems tough.
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when will this game implement more fucking gear choices, holy shit.
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>>150510635
This cutie has over 500+ blessing
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>>150510591
I actually only have 1 level in it. I generally only cast it on boss monsters since they are a bigger target. On regular mobs, if I catch myself missing from time to time I just cast it for the DEX.
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>>150510730
That cutie is my wife.
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>>150510561
>Hidden Class
Stopped reading there.
These korean tards don't know how to make believable disinfo.
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>>150510817
Falseflagging is bad.
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This autistic bitch named Dvine told me to ask you guys who she was like she was famous or something.
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>>150505457
Well, shiet. I got falcon already, fell for the mass meme builds I saw online.

At least the costume is CUTE!
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>>150511091

Who?
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>>150510975
I love her.
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>>150510836
it currently is flagged as hidden, this can be updated
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>>150511108
go fwee 3!
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>>150511182
It's been there for ages
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>>150510817
Back off my Mom is married to MY Dad.
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>>150511272
thats my point, it currently is flagged as 'hidden' along with Luchador which is weirdly placed with the cleric files which made korean anons asusme that its the next path for monk
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>>150511153
I called her a literal "who" and she replied anybody who needs to know me does.

P.s. no matter what pedropan is never going to amount to shit 1or win gbl

Sounds like a rape victim
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Can you really only use the qs3 outfit if you are a qs3? In the shop, I am able to preview it and the only restrictions it reads are "level 1 or higher, archer class, female only". I'm not a qs3
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>>150511272
its hidden along with the other classes
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>>150494109
Unless Lancer gets a one-handed spear attribute, it's the retard build.
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>>150511398
>Luchador
>Monk
Doesn't really make much sense, senpai
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>>150511590
whole luchador shit doesnt make any fucking sense, most skills require you to be unarmed so its basicall swap weapon-lag city
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>>150511590
mexicans are very religious
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>>150511590
>monks cant be luchadors

nigga you just described the plot of Nacho Libre
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>>150511590
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>>150511860
>Luchador vs Doppel
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>>150511398
>it currently is flagged as 'hidden' along with Luchador
But it's not. And Luchador isn't even in the game files.
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>>150512365
not in itos
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>>150512417
not in ktos either
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>>150512512
proof
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>>150512536
Open job.tsv and look for yourself.
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>>150511668
Luchador will be a new special starting class, there won't be any branching paths, you just progress within the class itself earning better masks and more complex grappling moves.

They can sprint into body/butt slam and have a chair as a side weapon.
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>>150511590
just imagine

>martial arts
>with lucha libre

OH FUCK YES DO IT IMC FUCKING DO IT
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>>150512661
I think its only natural for Monks to transition into luchador, its like theyve been useless all these time and luchador offers a different path, instead of sulking in a corner and being ashamed of your dps rank, luchador is a way out to embrace your uselessness and become a full time unarmed jackass
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>>150512807
Nice, I got a healer.
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>>150512648
jesus christ, go to the gook forums, search "mined data" or something and translate it to gook speak and copy paste that shit on the search bar
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>>150513003
I don't give a shit about gooks. I have the all files myself.
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>>150513003
>it's not in the game files
>b-but it's in the korean forums!
Yeah that sure proves it's in the game files.
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>>150506737
What is your stat build and what + is your sword?
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>>150512906
>Monk
>Healing

hehehehehehehehe
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>>150510561
>all(?) peltasa and rodel skills have their overcharge replaced by 1 cooldown except for few skills

That would make it garbage.
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>>150508576
They're nerfing the duration gained from points in cyclone so don't worry about it.
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>>150502805
It's not p2w at all
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>>150513484
Uh no it wouldn't.
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>>150513362

200 into DEX, the rest (114) into STR, +8 magi
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does slithering provide 100% magic evasion?
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>>150502805
Not really p2w. The only real p2w thing are tokens (basically premium subscription) but you can buy them with in-game currency and money is easy to get in game.
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>>150513951
Yes.
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How big is the aoe of suction thingy of magnet from necro?
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Anons how do I know which monsters are plate/cloth/leather? they all ahve different icons on top of their names but i dont seem to catch what theyre supposed to represent.

is it

Mage=cloth
archer=leather
melee=plate

??
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>>150513538
except the enchant scrolls and tokens you mean. it's only a matter of time before imc adds silver anvils and enhance protectors to market too.
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>>150514102
it's big and easy to land
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>bought 200 hp potions
>98% inventory weight
>eh, I can still walk fast
>enter arena
>stats adjusted
>overweight

Literally pumping iron in the middle of the fight just to cope.
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>>150514446
Oh well. I was trying hard to dodge the thing and it keeps sucking me. I thought I was lagging and shit. Thanks anon
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>>150512793
Pardon me for my excessive autism, but while that sounds incredible, most cleric classes seem to be linked to religions, something Luchador isn't. It makes more sense to me that Luchador will be a Swordsman class, since even in the game files they are referred to as Warrior. (don't know if that holds true in Korean)
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>>150514438
the only thing their adding is the awakening stones so you don't waste potential when awakening

probably going to have a similar cost to enchant scrolls
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>Join Arena
>Stat reduction
>being only healer
>now i am overweight
Still won
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>>150514637
https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/fray-tormenta-nacho-libre-true-story
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>>150514438
Enchant scrolls give literally negligible stats, I wouldn't call that p2w.
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>>150511502
>I'm not a qs3
Your not female also
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>>150511091
>>150511468
this is why i ks you at bees. i really like when generic nobody #454 tells me they won't leave and are gone 20 minutes later. it's even better when they last longer though

cucked at gbl and cucked at bees.
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>https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=570
>Also, honorary titles obtained through this event will be exclusive to champions of 5v5, as those are the battles that count towards the weekly ranking.
How's this gonna work, sum rating from 3 weeks, grab the highest rating that someone got or just use the last week one?
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>>150514849
Titles given at the end of each week for duration of the event and then it resets, so max of 12 titles in existence. It's not cumulative they are just clarifying that 2v2 doesn't count.
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>>150514776

aoe ratio, speed and 800 hp m8

800 hp is like 10 con
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>>150514776
>paying to have 30 levels worth of str and 10 levels of con is negligable
even if the values were smaller it would still be p2w
>>
If there is a a highest MMR ranking, there should be a lowest MMR ranking to weed out the shitters.
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they will fix ignition or I need to buy one

even summons procs this shit it seems
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>>150514637
"They are a classic and a real show in Mexican popular culture, this tradition has its beginnings in ancient 300 years ago, where the Olmecs warriors employed masks in ceremonies, battles and funeral rites."
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whats the spell that makes waves of fire, similar to the assassins trap in diablo 2?
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>2x2

>sorcerer's temple shooter lv 5 hurts more than any archer
>bats hurt more than sword
>salamion hurts more than swords

cappep 200 summons when
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>2v2 pits two full cryos against two invisible bowfags that bleed you to death

Fuck you too, IMC.
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>>150515770
firewall
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mfw Cloak + Broadhead + Barrel
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any fencerbros?

am I supposed to only use leather eqps? should i max leather mastery?
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>>150515975
>leather mastery
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How much bullying tier is this?
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>>150516115
whats wrong anon? i'm literally asking a question and not trying to prove any point
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>>150516161
at least you did better than koenig and lolipan
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>>150515476
You mean bats or TS?
Bats are technically your damage, there are even occasions where bats will attack you because you have bleeding status (your target is their target).
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>>150515975
>>150516212
why dont you get out of that uh jabroni outfit and well settle this right here in the tbl.
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>>150516212
It's shit, leather mastery is ultra shit.
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>>150515841
Now that's pay2win

>>150516295
KEK
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>>150516212
Leather Mastery is shit.
I know. I fell for it.
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>It's a kino has 30 seconds of hard cc episode
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>>150504728
Hey Katz is it possible to ask your lua devs to see if they can tweak the Warmode addon such that the skill target cursor still shows up when you turn all effects off?
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What's the best way to go dragoon?
The only thing I can think of is SwordPeltHopCata3Dragoon, but I really don't want to waste a slot on mount!
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>>150516418
the fuck are you talking about?

>>150516421
why? is it that bad? i thought only plate mastery is shit?
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>>150516861
pelt hop3 doppelgoon if u dont want mount
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this boys still looking 4 epic HIP underground things that are at least semi pvp viable to do with my wizard3.

i only trust ur expert theorycrafting advice /tosg/
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>Use bokor talisman
>Party leroys straight into the jaws of death
>They blame me when they die

Dude, I only delayed your annihilation.
If you don't wanna fall back and hang out in my safety zone for sec, then enjoy exploding.
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>>150516875
hey fuck you leatherhead
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>>150517208
Bokor and Kabbalist abilities always require yellow text explanations - did you apply it?
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To the guy that was asking earlier, I'm definitely getting +1 to my Cata skills.
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>>150516875
The formula for the bonus in the leather mastery is shit, Plate and Cloth are good.
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IM GOING TO MAKE A BOKOR CANELLE AND WELL NEVER HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT SITUATION AGAIN!
>>
Whoever said you can get in matches together if you queue together, you're a fucking liar.
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>>150517616
yes... another victim claimed by me xxlokitha>>150517616
madtricksterxx.... get FUCKED KID

*teelports out*
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>>150517378
>warmup
Once the round starts you won't.
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>PETS IN THE ARENA

JUST LOST THE BATTLE OF MY LIFE BECAUSE A 3FPSHOGLAN BROKE MY PSYCHIC PRESSURE CHANNELING TOP KEK
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>>150517796
Good boy, defending his master from cheap classes
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>clean hit on an archer with my most powerful skill
>not much of his hp is gone
>eh?

WHO THE FUCK BUILDS CON ARCHER?
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>>150518142
rance
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post builds
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>>150517796
>doesn't have surespell
Non-wiz3 shitters.
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>>150517434
It's ok, I had good luck yesterday but today I played really bad
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>>150518142
>Make full-con Scout/Fletcher
>Be an invisible, barrel-hiding, unkillable bleedmachine

WHY. DIDN'T. I. THINK OF THAT.
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>>150518142
con wugu cannon is new meta
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>>150517223
>>150517424

anon i dont know what the fuck is your problem but seriously, redpill me on this, is getting +75 eva bad?
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>2x2 all swordies
>Cata and corsair on each side
>Tell my partner not to stay close to me, else we'll be hooked together
>He impales the enemy Cata and runs straight to me
>We both get Iron Hooked, he dies
>Lose the match we were winning 3x2
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>>150518836
wtf noob you shouldn't have stood next to him
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>>150518669
on that note, do we get -18% less attack with guardian? or is it still 18% evasion?
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>>150518669
It's not enough to make up for what you're NOT getting with either of the other armor types.
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>>150517756
Oh, well PVP is over now so I can't check, sorry!
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Every day there is less TBL posting
Already bored of the shitty minigame?
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>>150518669
well let me guess what the problem is this time, dinero
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Is party questing fixed yet, Kim?

I've got a date tonight.
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>>150517796
My trusty penguin will save me from this pinch.
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>>150519589
Yeah I was ranked last week but now I'm just doing it for points
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>>150516161
How people can be this bad while playing Cleric?
>>
>>150519840
WITH

WHO
>>
>>150519840
Of course not.
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>>150519875
>implying clerics are supposed to deal damage or get kills
>>
>>150519840
No.
Actually now you crash when the thing happens
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>>150519842
DELETE THIS
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>>150516161
Aren't you an INT druid with diev

How do you not do damage
>>
>>150519842
FUCKING PAY2WIN, KIIIIIIIIIM EXPLAIN THIS
>>
>>150520030
If you play like a real hamster of course you won't deal damage as a Diev3Druid2.
Learn to play the game or stick to PvE
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>>150519842
HAHAHA
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>>150520164
Because he is shit at PvP
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Post good names
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>>150520849
I've seen a handful of good names gone to bots, it's depressing.
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>>150521453
Yes, like Germany.
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So will this ever get fixed or...?
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>>150521690
The fix is already posted on the official website
it works
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>>150520012
>>
>be in a mission
>11 lvl difference
>suddenly out of nowhere I die on golem but revival was on
>thinking whatever
>later get hit for 20k on mole
>look at my buffs and spot a heart
>cleric with even bigger lvl difference used guardian saint on me
Great skill.
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>>150521830
Oh, thanks
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>>150520849
>>
>>150521830
It does not work for me.
>>
>>150517378
I thought so too, but trot only increased my movement speed to 57, not 58.
>>
>>150521830
doesn't work you liar.
>>
>>150521830
>doesn't work
>resets my music
>resets my loading screens
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Why are barrel battles so fun?
>>
>>150516653
I'm interested in this as well. Is Mirararara there?
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>>150521830
Wow
>66 files failed to be validated and will be reaquired
>964mb download inititiated
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>CNL has boys in it

Uhmmm tostards???
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>>150522948
M A R C O
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I have a gamecube controller, PS3, Ps4, and Xbox Controller. Which one is ideal with playing TOS?
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>>150522857
I don't know how to. Had been trying it for ages too.
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>>150523104
360
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>>150523083

>tfw I used to find Marco really annoying
>but now I actually love him in sort of like the way a parent would love an autistic son
>>
>>150523104
Xbone is slightly better than 360
I like Dualshocks because I grew up using them but I don't have one right now. The PS4's touchpad seems like a nice gimmick to have.
>>
>>150523104
Wavedash in pvp with the GC controller
>>
>>150523663
>>150523357
>>150523776
it's a 360 controller. now how do I go about setting this up?
>>
>>150523927
If you're using an up-to-date windows, plug and play.
>>
Help me friends

is Sage Wall RNG or DPK?

and how bad is it?
>>
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>>150504728
>dokidoki
c-can i join? I'd like to be powerleveld...
>>
>>150524004
No. I'm on a windows 7.
>>
>>150524045
Fixed 0,01%
>>
>>150524045
0.01%
>>
>>150507401
>>150509492

And to add to his titles, Jobber of Penguins >>150519842
>>
>>150524175
Katz is not on right now. PM Mirarara if you want to join, so that I can record your name.
>>
>>150516861
Don't list to this anon >>150516979
pelt1 hop3 doppelgoon is terrible and is useless. You don't have enough time to use everything in your spear lunges.
>>
>>150524439
>>150524521
well fuck, this literally is an item not worth killing 1000+ in one sitting is it?
>>
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>>150524731
w-will i recieve my power leveling soon?

(((o(*゚▽゚*)o)))
>>
>>150525074
Well at least I understand what guild I'm never going to join if this kind of subhuman is in it
>>
>>150525074
faggot
>>
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>>150525184
>>150525203
―(T_T)→
>>
>>150524380
Just... plug it in and see
>>
>>150525074
>(((o(*゚▽゚*)o)))
>>150525291
>―(T_T)→

please go somewhere else. maybe forum or leddit.
>>
>>150525074
Maybe when the members capable of powerlevelling is online.

I'm going to sleep soon, and Katz is not online, so I don't think it's possible in a few hours.
>>
>>150523292
Oh okay. Thanks anyway. I'm gonna practice targetting blind I guess.
>>
>tfw karacha dagger 3k repair price compared to ardes 75
remind me again why I should ever use it over arde?
>>
>>150525587
+61 against medium
>>
>>150525535
Not that guy but would you prefer a monk or a hop>goon?
>>
>>150525587

+11 evasion/critical rate, +61 vs medium, better awakening

repair at squires
>>
>>150525808
monk.

I'm not kidding. Monk's energy blast can be useful in GvG.
>>
hey guys

building a wiz3 link1 sorc1 necro 2 and the closer i get to 120 the more i think the sorc1 is a bad idea. i know the general set puts rank 5 down as a wild card, so im wondering what you guys would consider as a possible replacement for that circle, if anything.
>>
any ET party needs a 270 memelock?
i dont care what kind of party just wanna try it for once
>>
>>150526014
Linker2
>>
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>>150526014
>Not sticking faithfully to Empress Lily's build

You heathen.
>>
>>150526021
Go level some more
>>
>>150525843
>>150525667
>+61 vs medium
is that even good? (in pve)
for a wizard? idc about dex
>>
>>150526372
Most mobs are medium so yes.
>>
>>150526014
Linker2 makes a lot more sense than Sorc for that build.

>>150526021
Just shout for 4 random people to go in with you, your level is too low and your attributes most likely too shit to ever get a slot as replacement in any existing groups.

>>150526372
Like 90% of what you are killing is medium, so yes.
>>
Azebu is a janitor, did discord take over tosg threads?
>>
>>150526461
>>150526558
oh, and with QC that's ~91? nicee

not sure if the price is worth it for me now tho
>>
are fencers supposed to be cucks? what are you supposed to do after Fencer2? I mean do you get invited to parties? is your dps consistent from 230-280?

whats a decent high level Evasion count?
>>
>>150526764

Discord's as dead as disco. Do you see any discord links here?
>>
>>150526920
Gee I wonder why :^)
>>
>>150526861
>swordsman
>dps
pick one
>>
>>150526791

It's a really nice bonus, but not a priority if you already have an arde dagger. upgrading your attributes from your main spells like psychic pressure or frost cloud is better if they are at low levels
I bought mine because I also play a fencer so the dagger is a must
>>
>>150526558
whats the minimum attribute for some major skill then
>>
>>150527772
>>150527772
>>150527772
>>150527772
>>150527772

moo-ve
>>
>>150527575
You should try to get at least up to 80 in Frost Cloud, that's the big one. Other than that around 50-60 in everything else is pretty reasonable.
>>
>>150527575
Frost cloud 60.

That's the minimum of what you need inside.
>>
>>150527893
>80
>minimum
You're fucking retarded.

>>150527575
60% fc is enough for 1f with a decent team.

Your priority should be FC >> Hail > DT >* in attributes.
>>
>>150528232
I'm not talking about minimum to scrape by. I'm talking if the guy wants to replace some dude in a pug. Why the fuck would I invite a random lv270 Ele with garbage attributes when a single shout gets you at least 5 that shit on him.
>>
>>150528441
>I'm not talking about minimum to scrape by
That's exactly what minimum means and what he asked you fucking retard.
>>
>>150528718
He is trying to get someone else to take him in their group, why the fuck would I invite him when I can literally get ten other people within minutes that would destroy his DPS? If he wants to build a static himself then fine, but if he is competing with all the other Elememes on the server then no, 60 fucking FC is not going to get him anywhere
>>
>>150528989
>60 fucking FC is not going to get him anywhere
Easily to 5f :^)
>>
>>150480342
>he had to kill a mob to find it

I found one on kToS just laying on the floor.

>>150484578
>Throw Gu Pot is your main form of AoE DPS from Wugu

All of my what? Throw Gu Pot is what you use when Wugong Gu + Barrage are on cooldown. Hell, Wugu3 could have Wugong Gu as its only ability and it'd still be a strong class. Wugong Gu is literally Frost Cloud: more hits, shorter cooldown, more targets, more base damage, deals double dmg to flyers vs 0 dmg for Frost Cloud, gets multiplied by Joint Penalty (and the attribute). The only downside is that you can't stack it and that it's useless in PvP and there's no Quick Cast to boost its damage. But if the Mergen bow attribute adds a flat % dmg, then it'll shit all over Elememes, especially with JP scrolls.

>>150485419
Amazing with Linker.
>>
>>150525873
Alright. I'll take your word for it. Dont know if my computer is capable of gvging though. it's kind of a piece of shit
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