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Rank 8 Archer info: http://tos.nexon.com/community/dev/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=39

Previously on /tosg/: >>149939612

>Can I play the game now?
YES YOU CAN (Get it on steam)! Rank 8 Soon™

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding.

>Add-ons:
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
http://pastebin.com/PrCkZ21n

>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : There's only one KToS server
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
Clover (Karga)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
F.O.E. (Jinsae)
Kysses (Cattly)
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
Fedimian actually needs a real /tosg/ guild
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)

Cookie Cutter Guide :
>Wizard and Archer still unedited, Discuss in thread before using
http://pastebin.com/aGk6Ku7c
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get your updated memes here
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Is Pedro back yet?
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>>149977568
gone forever, bullied too hard
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>FOE is now sponsored by conde nast
Nobody cares about your unfunny forced memes.
Play the game instead of sitting there counting replies just to force your unfunny shit.
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TRANSLATION OF R8 ARCHERS WHERE PLS HELP
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> musket 2

falcon muskets on suicide watch

t. falcon musket
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>>149977559
leet weet
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Interested in the game, but last I checked up on it everyone said it wasn't worth playing because of some bug with parties and quests. So did they fix it yet?
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>>149977891
check back in 2017
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>>149977891
do you like heavy grinding and have nothing to do at max level other than rolling alts?
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>>149977378

>Kysses (Cattly)

Reminder to change this to Database (Cattly).
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>>149977803
Falconer, which controls a Hawk companion, will receive further changes in Circle 3.

An attribute will be added to Circling that lets it duplicate attacks within the affected area at a chance of 5% per skill level. This will be a very important skill for Archers, who tend to be weak against multiple enemies.

A new skill "Aiming" will increase the effective hitbox of enemies around the hawk, allowing you to attack from even further away. Because this skill can be combined with other skills like Circling, it will be very helpful when partying with melee classes.

"Pre-emptive Strike" allows your hawk to automatically participate in battle even without you commanding it to. Skills that will automatically be used are Hovering and Sonic Strike. In this case, these skills will take on the respective skill levels learned by the Falconer. Skills used automatically by the Hawk will not use SP or trigger cooldowns.
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>>149977891
PvP arenas have been added to the game. I don't know if they fixed that bug with the party quests yet though.
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UNF
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>>149978375
mm

other classes/skills?
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>>149978781
go read forums, I already spoonfed you enough
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I hope that Siege Burst's attribute won't have a skill level requirement
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>>149979323
>picking Jurate instead of best goddess
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>People still play this shit game.

Wow.
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>>149978993
But i'm alrady on the forum, literally, asking for info :|
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https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=564
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>>149979456
>best goddess
>that one

No.
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>>149979676
oh well thanks
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>>149977820
Why would they be? Snipe was bad with since they fixed it's hitbox, Covering Fire is way superior with it
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>>149979514
wrong general, d2g is the other way
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>all those r8 crit-resistance debuff skills that will make crits 5% more likely on high lvl mobs with 80% base crit resistance
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>>149979893
Snipe was bad with Covering*
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>>149979779
was it autism?
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>>149980074
It was a shit artist is what it is
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>>149980041
because musket 2 is shit and falcon 3 is off the hook
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>>149980041
Circling**, fuck
I need to sleep
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>>149980157
>more levels on Snipe
>more levels on Covering Fire
>Penetration Shot now looks decent
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Any of the guilds recruiting on klepedia?
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>>149980316

skill levels on snipe and covering fire only increase the static damage bonus, not the multiplier

meanwhile qs3 falcon3s get fuckign AoE running shot
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>>149980450
futurepoop has 5 slots
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For sword 3 cata 3 goon stats, should I go

2:1 DEX STR
or
2:1 DEX STR 50 CON?
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>>149980450
database
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>>149980501

Futurepoop it is. I for one welcome my subsequent bowel movement.

Who do I add?
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>>149980450
Please join Futureproof. We value members and we need you. We'll do anything, ask us to help powerlevel you, you'll have all the help you need from us.
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>>149980487
>meanwhile qs3 falcon3s get fuckign AoE running shot
Are you sure it's going to work that way? The skill in that picture looks like multishot. If it only duplicates attack skills then I don't think running shot will work with it since it buffs auto attack and isn't actually an attack skill.
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>>149980610
do we?
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>>149980662

there is a gif of it working with auto attacks; the "Aiming" skill to increase enemy attack hitboxes, then circling to cut their aoe defense to 0

makes your auto attacks hit all targets linked by their new hitboxes (the purple circles)
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>>149980610

Don't need no powerleveling. Just a guild.
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does anyone know if Audra staff 15% freeze works on arena with frostcloud?
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>>149980610
Dumb foecuck, cease this false flagging immediately.
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>>149980583
I dont know loli has not been on for a while. maybe dmn can help you
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>>149980798
>there is a gif of it working with auto attacks
That's multishot. Look at the ground graphic. Auto attack doesn't have that ground sfx.

>the "Aiming" skill to increase enemy attack hitboxes, then circling to cut their aoe defense to 0
Auto attack isn't an aoe attack so it can't hit multiple targets even if they have 0 aoe def ratio.

I think you should stop theorycrafting and wait for detailed info.
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>>149980961
>>149980610

I really don't care which guild I get into. They all seem indiscernible here.

My allegiances can be bought in MEMES.
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>>149981035

http://s.nx.com/s2/game/tos/obt/gwms/160729_9558/db_8ra_falconer2.gif

that is not multishot

and an auto attack can hit multiple enemies if you have base aoe ratio (say from vubbe fighter gloves or a sorc cat buff), the problem is archer auto attacks only hit a single fixed point with no splash, which is why 'Aiming' allows it to hit multiple targets

it isnt theorycrafting with video evidence
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>>149981268
That's the rodelero's auto attack. Archer's auto attack can only hit a single target.
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>>149981268
>and an auto attack can hit multiple enemies if you have base aoe ratio
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>>149981394

fucking look closer
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>>149981268
>>149981442
That's the rodelero's auto attack. Archer's auto attack can only hit a single target. I saw wrongly though, multishot was the static image used in the first circling picture.
Don't know why the post got deleted.
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>>149981524
the 1846 and 1746 hits are from the archer

>>149981418
how do you think swordsmen/cleric melee works
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>>149981442
>>149981643
Are you sure it's not just spamming oblique shot or heavy shot being spread by the new circling attribute?
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https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=563

didnt mention anything about lgbt schedule

dead game. we are doomed
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>>149981704

its not oblique cause her sp isnt going down, though its possible the GMs making this gif had godmode on

that and obliques impact has a graphic iirc
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>>149980505
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>>149981903

well you didnt take pelt 1 so its not pve

and youre only suggesting 50 con so its not pvp

so what are you doing
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>>149981990

It's for the PvP/GvG, first someone said to go 2:1 dex/con, then it's dex/str, and when I settled for dex/str, now they tell me I need to get some con for pvp.

I just don't know who to listen to
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>>149981990
>and youre only suggesting 50 con so its not pvp
How much con do you need for pvp?
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>>149981990
>every swordie is supposed to be a tauntbot
THIS MEME ENDS HERE JACK
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>>149981806
What's the brand new bird? Owl or toucan?
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Who /Fletcher3Mergen/ Here?
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>>149982383
A tit
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>kysses
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>>149982486
Everyone I suppose. Hackapell doesn't look that proficient for PvE unless dagger skills hit like a motherfucker.
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Has anyone found a way to finish the Sapper 2 quest? I really want to play..
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>>149982650
you mean sword skills
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>>149982663
What's wrong with it?
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>>149981806
>Lgbt
Degenerates please go
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>>149982663
why dont you take wugushi first
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>>149982878
When you try to use the bomb on the monsters, it doesn't work.
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Ok, now I'm going Falconer c3 for maximum kneeling shot build (with broom trap and flareshot)!
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>hakkapalle
>one handed sword as off hand weapon
>there's no good one hand sword that is good for extra damage like mana mana or arde
>you need to do normal attacks and stick arrows to a target to do extra damage with the sword which means ranger barrage is a must.

Literally disgusting.
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>>149982962
As in it doesn't kill them or what?
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>>149982663
I have.

First is just level it as if it doesn't have a bug ie go into lvl 90 dungeon as sapper c1 then make a ranger then farm at tenet until they fix it which would be 2 to 3 weeks from now.
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>>149983314
You need to press V for the quest bomb. Nothing happens after you press V.
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>>149983256

>catacombs blade
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Miko, Kanushi, Inquisitor info in a week!
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>>149982663
SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE QUEST FROM ORSHA SAPPER MASTER NOT KLAIPEDA YOU SHITTER
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>>149983595
waiting warmly for the anon who posts "but miko is archer r8 hidden class! daoshi is wizard r8 hidden class!"
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>>149983502
Weird. What about using it from the inventory or doing the item into the hotter?
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>>149983883
>doing the item from the hotter
Wew autocorrect. Dropping the item into the hotbar.
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>>149983883
Neither seems to work.
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>>149983883
>>149983989
Also, make sure you have a monster targeted because we all know how finicky IMC's shit code happens to be.
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If someone swells my left and right arm will Double Punch have enough power to knock enemies into another map?

I need big fisto
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>>149984203
Once you get near a monster, a V icon flashes near the quest list. When you press V a progress bar shows up and charges until full. Then disappears and you can't move for a few seconds. And nothing else happens. No dead monster and no complete quest.
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>>149983502
Can you drop the quest and restart it? Also make sure you're not cancelling the item use by moving. Not sure if this item had a cast time or not.
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>>149980487
>muh static damage
The per level damage bonus is multiplied by the percentage scaling and a lot of other shit, you dolt.
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>>149984565
Abandoning the quest and taking it again has the same outcome.This started after the patch since the complaints at the forum started after the patch.
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>>149984563
Sausage IMC
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https://yuki.la/vg/120394440
http://4archive.org/board/vg/thread/138209587
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/130365480/

>problem has been a thing since at least February
>still not fixed to this very day
T-thanks IMC. Time to stop playing forever I guess.
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Might be kind of a stupid question but is Blessing flat damage like elemental attack+? Or does it get multiplied through crits and however else this game calculates damage.
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>>149984871
It's flat
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>>149984871
Remember there are no stupid questions, only stupid people
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>>149984871
Flat unattributed. Always does the same amount regardless of elements. Not sure how it interacts with def though. Seems to disregard it but I'm not sure what it does vs 280 bosses where you'd do 1 damage.
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>>149984871
>Might be kind of a stupid question but is Blessing flat damage like elemental attack+
>flat damage
>like elemental attack
WILL THIS MEME EVER END?
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Who sadhu here?
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Don't lie to me tossg, cleric will get the only buff removal and heal preventing tools of the game in order to make pvp even more cleric centric that it already is.

Surely giving that kind of tools to other classes on some of the many worthless skills wouldn't make for something far more interesting.
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Archer 2 Sapper 2 Fletcher 3 Mergen 1 seems like the obvious progression, am I right?
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>>149985526
>Sapper 2
Anon..
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>>149985405
sad? yeah, this game makes anyone sad.
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>>149985630
What? What did I do wrong?
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>>149985405
waiting warmly for them to actually balancing it
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been out for 10+ days, did they buff silver on dungeons?
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>>149985138
Aside from elemental weaknesses how is it not flat?
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>>149985526
Meta:
archer 2 ranger 1 scout 1 fletcher 3 mergen 1
archer 2 ranger 2 fletcher 3 mergen 1

Farm:
archer 2 qs3 sr2 mergen 1
archer 2 ranger 1 scout 3 mergen 1
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>>149985767
yes, if you can full clear legwyn dungeon solo its about 250k silver per run
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>>149985735

I just don't get why cleric 3 for a supposed dps class
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right you can use both circling and hovering at the same time?

or does using another falcon command stop the previous one?
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>>149984563
Same shit happens for that quest in grand corridor where you gotta drop bombs on the soulettes
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>>149986007

It seems that circling will be usable with the new double attack skill, and hovering and sonic strike autocastable when your c3 falcon skills is on
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>>149985886
Aside from the base damage cure15 does the same as zaibas. You also get more heal tiles, which you could nuke with if you wanted and more safety zone is always beneficial to sadhu. Not the worst.
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>>149985886
>cleric
>dps

Roll a doppel if you want dps
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>>149986198
>>149985886
Dont forget fade doesnt break when you use out of body attacks. Its basically cheating in pve
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High level chappies how much does your bless add right now? And what gear besides Peta boosts it?
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>>149986447
>chappies
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>>149985416
But fletcher already exists faggot.
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>>149986412
Oh that's neat. Would your average sadhu max fade then? 30 seconds of free OOB seems quite good.
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Database is recruiting new members, please let me know if you are interested in joining!
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>>149986602
If you rotate between safety and fade, you have almost no down time so you dont really need it maxed. Mine has 5 points and it does well enough.
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>the point of this new event quest being all in siauliau woods is to make new players think that the game is not dead
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>>149986762
Makes sense...
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>Klaipeda
Kysses (Cattly)
Clover (Karga)
F.O.E. (Jinsae)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
Futureproof ()
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Fedimian
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)

Suggestion for next thread.
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>>149986858
>Kysses (Cattly)

Anon it's Database now.

and you are right
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Just got a awakening stone, how this works if I'm not an alchemist
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>>149986858
It is not Kysses!
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>>149986858
>Futureproof ()
>futureproof was the only real /tosg/ guild they said
>I was stupid enough to believe them
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>>149986962
>falling for bad Memels
how new were you?
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>>149985817
>>149985817
But... Broom trap, collar bomb, claymore?
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>>149986447
402
Sage wall
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Thanks to the event mission, I learned of a zemyna statue that I skipped in miner's village since I just rush the main quest on my charactersto fast leveling, kek. thanks kim
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>>149986956
You can normally add the ingredients yourself when the alchemist is preparing a dungeon for you.
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>>149986447

https://tos.neet.tv/items?stats=MNA&order=statd&f=1
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>>149987242

That's nice, thanks.
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>>149987072
Sapper falls off hardcore to the point that broom trap is the only thing that keeps relevancy, and only as a tool to spread wugushi poison or when you have 100% lethargy uptime via a mage bitch
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>>149977378
yo /tosg/ I'm interested in trying this game, but I've read steam reviews and it's puzzling to me, most negative reviews have 300h+ played. The game must be doing something well, right? Why would people keep playing it for in some cases thousands of hours and then completely gut it in review?
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>tfw FP was the only /tosg/ guild with an actual chance of contending with the top guilds in GvG
>It's now falling apart due to Lolicuck showing his true colors AND being MIA when the patch we were all waiting for finally hits

SAVE US RANCE
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>>149986627
>new members
>ToS
Your only hope of gaining new members is taking them from the existing player base because no one is retarded enough to join this train-wreck of a game now.
Maybe if FP dies without lolicuck you can become FP2.
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>>149986858
>Fedimian ()
I like this meme when they are actually doing more things than all the guilds in Klaipeda and laugh at us
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>>149986956
What does awakening stones do?
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>>149987757
It doesn't matter. Not a tosg guild.
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>broom trap falling of meme

top kek, it's a fucking deployment spell that takes less than 1 second to setup and hits more than 20 times, crits, has a cheap attribute, gets boosts from kneeling shot and from the cryo 3 chrono 3 that is a must in any decent party

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG8eBwqUFUQ
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>>149987584
The game has a lot of a lot of problems. What you should do is try it out yourself and if you don't enjoy it by the time you're around level 50 or so, just quit. The gameplay never really changes.
>>149987621
I am not interested in actively taking members from others. If they wish to join of their own accord, I am happy to welcome them. We also already got one new player that was guildless, new people do actually pick the game up occasionally, regardless of what doom posters works have you think.
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>>149985886
>DPS
>Sadhu C3

Nope, Sadhu C1 is shit (inb4 pakriti pvp meme), Sadhu C2 is bad dps, even if still dps, Sadhu C3 is relegated to support, 100%, no way around it, you're sacrificing off Druid, no way to be a Cleric DPS without it. OOB damage is absolutely shit and not worth the setup. At level 250 with 60 attributed OOB auto I barely if ever use it. It's straight Cure into Possession for everything. The fact they removed Prana into OOB while keeping Divine Stigma confirms that they either never played the game or they made sure the class was unusable for DPS and just a Prana slave.
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>>149987863

when you awaken an item, you loss 1 potential, the stone saves your potential.

this is very important since 2-3 bad awakening rolls can ruin a weapon easily, harder to push to +15 with low potential and the raw+damage from upgrades usually surpass the best awakenings.
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>>149987887
Pretty much this.
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>>149987890
Play the game
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any good mounted swordy builds for PVE?

some two handed spear cata that can transition into lancer or something when r8 hits?
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>>149988281
hopcatagoon
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>>149987508
Goddammit, then I fucked up my entire build
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>>149977378
tfw made it twice in OP
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>>149987887
Not /tosg/ because you say so though
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>>149988398
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1134777f.23334551.11213541.152535.112f3f5a.15253141

somethin like that?

how would the stat build on this look?
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>>149979323
>That jewlery belt on her leg

I am diamonds
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R10 for archer will be cossack which will be mounted class with guns. Screencap that.
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Falconer 3 is literally multi-shot the class, that's nice, I love this skill.

If twin arrow also works, kek, a3 will be golden
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>>149987602
FP isn't better at anything compared to FOE or Clover. Except cuckery I guess
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>>149989201
cnl is the only true tosg guild
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>>149988991
A3 wugu2? Would the new ability make needle blow multitarget?
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>>149989201

FOE maybe, but Clover doesn't really have any high level PvP build powerhouses and I heard their members are really split timezone wise so there is never a large enough group of people on at once for GvG. I was under the impression that it was more just a casual social guild.
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>>149989350
Thanks Anon, I had a bad day, but you managed to cheer me up by cracking a good joke.
Ever considered working on suicide hotline? Once R8 releases, all these Elememes will need help.
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>>149989628

I don't think so, warlock 2 alone has DT 10 and the Pain Train of darkness.
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>>149988810
Do want.
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>EXP card as TBL reward

gee I wonder why all the R5 are here
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>>149987072
Claymore has damage attribute problems. A claymore lvl 1 with 20%attribute (stuck at 8%attribute bugged) gets 3.8k crit at lvl 50 dungeon while detonate traps with 0 attribute and max attribute against flying gets 4.7k crit.
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>>149989875
Thanks for the notice I'll be sure to queue up now to nab some exp cards.
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>>149989908

detonate trap is beautiful vs flying shit
khasti bow and a lv 10 attribute

is also seems to have infinite aoe ratio
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>>149987890
what's with the "dice" following the loli? what does it do?
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>>149988406
You didn't fuck it up, you're just a little less optimal than r1 sc1
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>>149990165
How useful is it in PvP?
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>>149989849
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q-OzsOmi00&ab_channel=Kalinin1917

good song desu
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>>149989875
Fucking R5s
why are they never on enemy team

>be rank 20
>get matched against lily (klaip rank 1)
>aw shit time to show them the power of a real necro
>check my team
>r5 A2QS3
>r6 alchemist
>no heals
>well it's one of these games, maybe their team sucks too
>check their team again
>diev3druidPD
>priest3Kabbalist
>all r7s actually
>REEEEEEEEEEE


Blog out.
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>>149990369

well, it saves you from zaibas, raise, explodes a good part of the ice walls, safety zones and etc.


too bad heal 10 has too much tiles, not evne detonate traps wipes
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>kinos just bug your teammates 24/7

haha great game!
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is it true stone shot doesn't work with those high HP mobs the 100k+ ones?
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>>149990369
It can save your ass from almost every magic circle. How you slip away is another story.
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>>149990552
Luck is also a skill ;^)
I don't have it too. REEEEE

>>149990685
It's a class feature. ;^)
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I've skipped majority of the quests available for me. Anyone knows what are the questlines that gives extra status points?
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>fucking cryokinos playing 2x2

LET THE SUBHUMANS HAVE FUN

REEEEEEEEEEEE
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It's that hour of the day again
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Why do people like 5v5s more than 2v2s? Doesn't your individual skill matter less as you add more players?
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>you cant do any dmg to healer with shields because THERE IS NO FUCKING BLOCK PENETRATION IN GAME

HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>149991762
If you do 2v2 and you get a useless team mate you're screwed.

5v5 is still doable with one or two shit players in your team.
>>
So um, what's Lolipan's MMR
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>>149991762
More cut-throat competition because its the "official" mode

Also it's not as easily cheesed as 2v2 because you're more likely to get healers
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Did they ever fix the shit performance of the game?
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>>149992025
0 LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>149991762
2v2 just boils down to who gets the Most cheesy CC abilities, skill has nothing to do with it any idiot can use magnetic force into flesh cannon or perms stun with hunter in a 2v2
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>>149992124
Of course not. It's a fundamental problem with the game engine. It's never getting fixed.
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MATCHED 5X AGAINT THE SAME CRYOKINO IN FUCKING 2V2

LMAO
>>
Snow Rolling is the one shot move. The moment you get hit by it and thrown out your character gets bugged out and remains stuck for the rest of the match.
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>>149992206
>2v2 just boils down to who gets the Most cheesy CC abilities
Isn't that true of 5v5?
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>>149991842
>equip wooden shield before match
>stand in counter spell and be almost invincible

Wizards and clerics are dominating because arena itemization is retarded.
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>>149991762
>Doesn't your individual skill matter less as you add more players?
This is what shitters actually believe.
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>>149992460
It's also the truth.
It's why guild battles are also a clusterfuck.
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>>149986858
I've pmed Colyo a dozen times, never get any responses. Does anyone here even play Orsha aside from me?
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>>149992213
Well did they fix anything at all? I haven't played since like 2 weeks into launch.
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>you know what fuck this 5 v 5, I'm gonna go 2 v 2
>r5 as a partner
>against a sadhu and a cryokino

Fuck PvP.
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>>149992387
No, in 5v5 your odds of neutralizing every single threat with a single move are next to none. CC is still strong but it's not nearly as cheesetastic.
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>>149992582
no. The game still hits 2 fps when there's more than 5 people on the screen using skills, the games still a boring quest corridor every time you make a new character. The games still rampant with bots and RMT. The devs are still placing heavy restrictions on everything you could do for free in Ragnarok or any normal MMO for that matter. The only thing that changed recently is that we're getting more of the korean content faster.
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>it's another losing streak cause my team doesn't get a healer while theirs do
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>>149992582
They broke more things than they fixed, but hey, r8 is coming out soon and PvP arenas are out now.
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>all the actual good builds play 5v5 competing with each other for top rank in the relevant mode
>leftover trash goes to 2v2 after they collected their welfare points from constantly losing in 5v5
>try to talk themselves up by claiming 2v2 rewards individual skill

You can't make this shit up folks
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>>149992884
>my team gets 3 swordie
>the other team gets 3 helaers
>>
>equipping a dagger on pvp reduces your atk
>>
Bodkin Point or Barbed Arrow? And should I still put points in Crossfire now that Mergen has superior AoE kit?
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>rank 5 swordie partners
>cant coursing half the matches because pet is glitched at spawn
>1 in 4 or 5 wins magically dont register and give mmr/points

How I am maintaing a 1k rating I will never know.
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what are these objects with yellow highlights? the chest has a hp bar too. ive tried attacking and interacting with them but nothing seems to happen
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>>149992884
What's infuriating is that this would be simply solved by a balancing algorithm, which should also be applied to dungeons. But nah, too much work for the chinese wannabes.
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>>149993130
bodkin1, barbed is better
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>>149993402
Could be a quest item for a quest you don't have yet.
Or could be nothing.
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>>149992540

Colyo does play, we're a relatively small group but definitely not dead. It's comfy.

Try adding him to friends so you can catch him online.
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Don't join 5v5 unless you have full con.
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>>149983502
>>149983883
>>149983989
>>149984160
>>149984203
>149984203
It is a bug that was added with the last patch, also the quest at Main chamber where you have to test the bomb on the mobs doesn't work, need to wait for a patch.
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THERE ARE TOO MANY HORSE ARCHERS I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE TO PICK FUCK
>>
Who /dies to no idea what/ here.
>>
Post PvP music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zLfCnGVeL4
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>>149982486
Fuck that, Ranger2/Wugu3/Rogue1/Mergen1. Wugu with JP scrolls is going to be godly. And it says Mergen get further 2h bow attributes; Wugu poison damage scales with the Archer bow attributes, so it's very likely Mergen is going to push Wugu through the roof. Synergy is going to be insane.
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>it's a 7k hp SR running in and dying and saying I'm only doing this for points episode

Go fuck yourself you're shit.
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>>149993805
I die to druid grass because it doesn't show on my screen when there are overlapping owls everywhere.
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>>149993890
I've been listening to SHA RA RA RA for the past hour.
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>>149993890
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np5dHmZ2L7Q
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>>149993890
>Post meme music
ftfy
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>>149987887
>It doesn't matter. Not a tosg guild.

And who are you to decide, amerishitter?
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>>149993904
please dont post my build anon.
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>>149993805
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzdh0fv8RMk&ab_channel=duxdemontis98
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>>149993904
Why Rogue, though? Didn't the feint+barrage meme get fixed?
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Why
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>rank 6 sorc 2 with less than 5k max hp on my team
Why do these people even bother?
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>>149994360
>>149993890
I'm always messing these up.
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>>149994512
Classic.
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Uhmmm Trappe!!?!?!?!?
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>>149994491
It did get fixed? That's rude. Maybe A2 instead for the extra crit rate?
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How are fletchers vs musketeers in this game? I'm planning on starting an archer really soon but I can't decide between the two. I know next to nothing about the two other than fletchers having magic arrow which is one of the best skills in the game and Musketeers having to take QS3 which is fucking hell.
>>
>>149993890
https://youtu.be/V4n2lE6ll5I
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>>149994614
R5 barb that made me lose the previous match
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>>149991762
these people have characters which can't win 2v2 so they shitpost about muh 5v5 since more players gives them better odds of winning.

if you can 1v2 then 2v2 is the best choice but not 1v5
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>>149994614
Post it on forum.
Some shitfest + 50/50 max will ban his ass.
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>>149994159
Damn. Is most of the music in the game this good?
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>>149994687
>and Musketeers having to take QS3 which is fucking hell.
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>>149993890
For real meta matches I gotta get pumped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTMtL3Kh8po&
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What does scout's Flu flu do? And is it worth leveling or should I just max my barrel?
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>you cant bash
>knockdown
>or deal any dmg to healers with shield

WOW EPIC BALANCE HAHA
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>>149994614
Lmao passive aggressive cucks at it again
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>>149994802
How your Didel hunt going anon?
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>>149994956
It's not happening because I dislike QS.
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>>149994884
What is this meme?
Stone Skin was already nerfed in arena.
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>>149994614
TRAPPE YOU'RE BETTER THAN THIS
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>>149994614
He can't carry shit lmao

g-guys I casted raise
pls do something
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>>149994614
Doing God's work.
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>>149994614
Fucking FP babies
Crying over terrible PVP on a shit game.
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>>149985405
cleric2>diev>sadhu3

Reporting

>>149986412
>cheating
Please senpai.
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>>149995151
trappe is a rune caster
>>
>get ressed
>run away from healer

Why

Also Genry is useless piece of shit

I'm gonna throw every time he's on my team
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>>149995052
What is shield and block

What is non existent block penetration that doesn't scale with any stat
>>
How long does it take to hunt

Recipes?

>White
>Blue
>Purple
>Red
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>>149995280
I've played with him a couple times
he's kino3

completely useless too
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We are the hackers known as 4chan and we are here to "DDoss" you
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>>149995151
It's actually really easy because no one ever sees a Rune Caster or knows about Hagalaz.
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>>149994839
DELETE THIS

>>149977559
DELETE THIS TOO

DELETE EVERYTHING

DELETE YOURSELVES
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>>149995357
>block penetration that doesn't scale with any stat
SPR :^)
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>>149995052

300 con and you have 50% block with any shield
>>
>hakkapalle
>not samurai
>samurai are japanese mounted archers that carry the kanata as side arm
>skills
>Sudoku : When the Samurai reaches 0 HP, he will commit sudoku which reduces equipment durability damage upon respawn
>Folded 1000 times : Extra damage against longsword wielding adversaries.
>Bushido : Max dignity and honor, you can't crit but your enemy can't crit also.
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>>149991923
Literally the other way round
>>
Anyone here have the CD tracker addon? How do I remove the red text that pops up when I use a skill?
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>>149994884
t. Full DEX shitter
>>
Broke 1100 with comfy music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHBAeBIENLI
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/klaipeda-crimson-knights-crimson-hardcore-competitive-international-guild/133617/304

comedy gold
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Goat horns and chupa ears!!!
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>>149995756
>in 3 months only Crimson will be the only ones playing this game

10hr+ requirement a day
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>>149988810
>Fur coat costume which beats out the Falconer in fluffiness
>Can you use all previous musket skills mounted for, no need for now swapping
Yes please
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Remember to remove your secondary weapon in pvp
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>>149994614
>PVP guild
>doesn't PVP
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
>>
20% of top 50 is /tosg/
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I carried a team for once!
>>149995757
New ones, please!
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>>149995675

>extra damage against longsword

my sides
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Wasn't FP a high intensive PvP guild who would never let a challenge go away?

>I'm going afk unless I get 3 flechers with mad broadhead arrow, and a full support PD
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>>149993405
Party search gives massive exp in exchange for a potential harder dungeon run, how is this hard to understand?

If you want perfect teamcomps for an easy run but shit exp then just enter with a party.
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>>149996078
Cattly don't be so humble you've carried me every time I got you
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>>149996078
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>>149996159
I generally do not feel as if I am contributing enough. I feel as if templar makes me outright worse than others for PVP. I was particularly proud of that game and this one though!
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>>149994491
It is NOT fixed

REPEAT

NOT fixed
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>>149996109
You already posted this, shitlord.
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>>149995675
>Bushido : Max dignity and honor, you can't crit but your enemy can't crit also.
This can be made into a real skill. Reduce your crit chance and increase your crit resistance. Might see it in Murmillo someday.

>>149996151
>potential
What's hard to understand is why gooks love their rand() so much.
>>
>>149995369
pls anons
>>
>>149996321
t. Trappe
>>
lol feels good owning retards in pvp who cloak when you're a hunter
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>>149995949
What?
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>>149995481
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>>149996109
I'd rather have one Diev3OraclePD, one LinkerChrono, one Priest3KrivisKabbalist and a ScoutWugu3.
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>>149996639
at least she can defeat dvine lol
>>
>Trappe
>the cuck who never talks
>licks the boots of his femdom partner Canelle while she's getting railed by Futureproofs heavy hitters
>can't PvP for shit
>throws a hissyfit when doesn't get his perfect teamcomp

Can you be any more pathetic though?
Makes me embarrassed to even share a same thread with these kinda people
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>>149994614
>>149996109
Please don't do this Trappe
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>>149996765
Anyone can.
>>
>>149996109

Ignore Trappe; he isn't representative of the guild as a whole.

Most of the guild are chill people, though whether FP even lasts after this week's disappointment is another story
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>>149996820
Even the top necro does it because everyone quickly understood that it's much faster and less frustrating to grind 10 daily losses.
>>
>>149996269
Thank you, he is cute. I wanna spoil him and kiss him all over!
>>
>>149995675
They're koreans. They fucking hate japs. Why the fuck would they add a samurai?
>>
>>149996938
Not to mention if you're grinding on multiple characters.
>>
What is the today reward for Scavenge and Special Delivery(assuming that I did them everyday since day 1)?

I have no idea which day I am on both, and I want exp tomes on my alt characters so I can suffer less.
>>
>>149996938
>The b-big boys do it so i-it's okay!
KEK
E
K

You really act like a babby.
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>>149996814
>>
>>149996938

An obvious excuse for being salty that another necro took their #1 and going "i feed lol".

Do you seriously think a person who played to win would just suddenly have a change of heart like that
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>Arena is only open for 1 (one) hour, four times a day
>The higher your mmr the fewer games you get
>Spend half the time in queue

5v5 is a joke, Wizards dominate too much. Archer/Swordsman are easily countered and they're very restricted (Cata3, Fletchers). Clerics can cheese low hp chars with Bokor's Hexing+Effigy or Kabbalist RSF. Oracles/PD kill over half the cc/debuffs available in the game. This game isn't meant to have balance in 5v5 or 2v2.
>>
>QS3
>no class to combine RS with
Fuck
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>>149997269
She's resting her head on her lap??
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>>149997416
Clerics and kino are so unbalanced for this. If they just nerfed r7, ausrine and some of kino's cc other classes would have a chance.
>>
>>149997416
nobody cares doomposting bot chan
>>
>>149997782
And they already did exactly that. Multiple times.
>>
>>149997756
More like chowing down on that fishy cunt.
>>
>>149997858
We didn't get most of those nerfs yet.
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>>149997756
She's kissing her hand
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>>149997850
How is that doomposting? I was looking forward to Arena and didn't know what to expect.
>>
>cute
>humble
>trap
>good at pvp
>actually around
Cattly is the guild leader we need.
>>
>>149979456
Holy shit...
>>
>>149998196
>same team as kirito
How can you live with yourself?
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>>149998242
t.Cattly
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>>149998196
>>
>>149979779
Her smile & optimism: gone
>>
>>149997416
>Beethothreejane
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>>149998404
>>
>>149998242
Caring
Adorable
Tender
Loving
Lively
Youthful
>>
>>149998196
I'm at work right now but did you enjoy the 20min rounds and 10+ minute queue times like I did? I had a lot more fun queueing on my alt.
>>
>>149998394
I already said, I'm not going to beg people to join. We only have three people, maybe a fourth once he's online in the guild.
>>
>>149997782
Kino is fucking garbage are you kidding me
What really dominates Arena are FULL CON necros as DPS
>>
>>149997501
A2QS3SR3
>>
>>149995408
>Known exploiter & RMTer accusing others of shit
>>
How important is Swordsman 2 or 3 on Shinobi? I know it's one of the few skills that work on bunshins but I've been hearing mixed reactions to the swordsman buffs (restrain and concentration). Also, is corsair2 completely useless?
>>
Crimson here.

You're all fucking garbage and can't even gvg while we're enjoying our unlimited TP coming in soon. Get fucked!

Crimson out.
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>>149998196
Fuck you and fuck everyone that casts sacrament and aspergillium and blessing on the team to delete good buffs
>>
>>149998592
>Catlly
>>
>>149998656
Why? Besides the obvious flesh cannon meme.
>>
>>149997416
Don't complain about balance when you play cleric
>>
>>149998656
>Kino is fucking garbage are you kidding me
Pretty obvious to anyone who plays the game that this is a blatant disinfo.

>What really dominates Arena are FULL CON necros as DPS
I've faced and beaten those rank 1-2 necros multiple times. The reason SorcNecro are good is because of the pets, not because of Flesh Cannon. Also Wiz in general is strong in arena, Wiz3+Linker alone is easy burst and can even get you multiple kills with JP+MM combo.
>>
>>149998875
>t. Moesaki
>>
>>149999061
One Rune of Destruction is enough to wipe out all Necro pets, their master included depending on how lucky you are.
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>all these mandatory dailies
This is how they trick you into thinking you're enjoying this game so much you keep logging in.
>>
Anyone know Lily's build?
>>
>>149998915
>Fuck you and fuck everyone that casts sacrament and aspergillium and blessing on the team to delete good buffs
Do you even play the game?

>>149999049
I'm acknowledging the imbalance that exists in pvp. What you're saying is the same as "don't talk about racism if you're white", you need to grow up.
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>>149998875
>>
will FP ever gvg?
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>>149998915
>aspergillium
Affecting the team
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>>149999234
Wiz3LinkSorcNecro2, 30k+ HP. Lily isn't carried by his class btw, he's actually a good player who knows what his skills does.
>>
>>149999245
>you need to grow up.
kys whitey
>>
>>149998976
All the summons obstruct targeting
Fleshcannon kills people from 100 to 0 no matter what CON they have if they're not invulnerable
Once bloodletting runs out (and it will fast because its nerfed) you're getting decayed by unkillable shoggoths and dirty poles that sit in the room for minutes
Skeletons just ignore ground magic completely and interrupt you constantly, really hard to kill them without stopping which makes you a prime target for FC

>>149999245
>>149999330
Last rites whatever, I couldnt care about the names of the buffs I have to click away the moment I get pardoner garbage on my team needs to whip out his shitbuffs
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>>149999379
>Wiz3LinkSorcNecro2
>not carried by his build
Have a picture of Lolipan.
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>>149999309
Yeah Lena should change it to -the best- instead of "one of the best"

Get fucked 4chan shiteater.
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>>149999530
That's not a picture of a skeleton. Pedro is dead, the cartel got to him.
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>>149999471
What class do you play that could possibly have enough buffs that they get overwritten by getting two more?
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>>149999379
Yeah I remember getting cocky in a 1v4 and he linked 3 and wiped us out with a FC. Thank the lord we had a Bokor to finish him off
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>>149999471
There is no buff limit inside arena you fucking retard.

>>149999530
Maybe if you actually played the game and saw Lily in action you'd know, but I guess you need to be near his mmr first before you get matched with him :^)
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>>149997416

>kirito top 10

you guys had one job
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I still support Lolipan. I don't know what's going on, but I know Pedro is a friend and a nice guy.

There are many of us, Pedro. Many silent supporters who will be silent no longer. We will raise our voice to support you in this time of great need.

/tosg/ <3 Lolipantsu, 4eva
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>>149999379
Doesn't change the fact that necro is stupidly op in arena right now.
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>>150000042
Wiz3LinkSorc doesn't have much CC to offer, I think his main tactic is to land a good JP+HK+MM then go from there.
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>>150000042
Necro aren't op, it's the entire Wizard tree that is "op" in pvp. The only thing that Necro excels at is summoning adds so targeting becomes a nightmare.
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>>150000262
>skill that can 1 shot any full con even with no int and does more damage than meteor with less cooldown
>not op
come on fampai
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>>149999836
But I did get matched with him before I started AFKing :^)

I'm not saying he's a bad player, but saying his build doesn't carry him is plain retarded. I'd like to see him reach the top 10 with a rodelero if it's not his build that's carrying him.
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Lily is good but he would not be that high without this "countermeta" build, you guys says as if he would be top 1 playing sadhu pd

picking a great class based on current meta and investing in it is party of being good at the game, that why I'm not saying he's purely carried by his class, but that's pretty much it

and and remember that we are currently with iCBT 2 joint penalty
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>>149999929
Sup Pedro?
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>>149999653

I want my tranpose to stay on me and with the constant barrage of buffshitters that spam their useless garbage I spent half of my time clicking away buffs instead of properly fighting

>>149999836
Play the game, buffs are limited in arena the same way as everywhere


>survive the first barrage of buffs just keeping on revive and ausrine (the only buffs you actually need)
>alright time to fight
>get in the fight
>HP suddenly drops from 60k to 6k
>checks buffs
>it's fucking sacrament and blessing that a retard priest decided to cast mid-battle
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>>149999929
>pedro hanging out in discord last night while futurecucks watch others do gvg
he was right if they're cucks they most be happy cucks
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how about they restrict pvp to r3 only
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>>149995712
>t. Full DEX shitter

Sorry, my low IQ /tosg/ friend, but I'm not "full dex shitter" and with 450 STR I have only 241 block penetration which is clearly not enough at all to do damage to healers with shields.
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>>150000650
I haven't followed Linker changes, what's different from now to the next update?
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>>150000737

I'd like to try a r4 120 meta
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>>150000042
More like retards can't figure out to kill all summons and avoid getting fced/linked. Look at what other players are doing. Everyone runs their own routine and thinks its good. Bumrush is the main strategy. No one can even adjust after first round.
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>>150000710
Sacrament I can understand not wanting but I think blessing is totally okay.
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>>150000415
You can't kill with Flesh if the target is moving, you need to make them eat all the hits for 3 seconds. Which is why magnetic force is really good.
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How are Rodeleros in PvP? I want to make a class centered around Murmillo though All I've got is Sword>Pel>High>Rod3> something c7 and murmillo.
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>>150001079
>killing lvl 280 templeshooter and skeletons
>as a lvl200

lmfao
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>>150000415
>Calling Flesh Cannon OP
Actually play the game

>>150000418
I'd rather see people copy his build in hope of getting to get carried. His build is nice yes, but saying that alone let him take number 1 is a big "fuck you" to everyone who's loss to him at least once. That guy is the most tryhard I've seen in arena so far. Spamming pots all day and even getting wins after he's the last man standing, even soloing clerics.
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>>150001102
kek
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>>150000742
Does the revive+ last rites attribute that increases block penetration apply to party members or is it just the chaplain? Seems useless if it was self buff only.
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>>150001102
I want no other fucking buffs other than ausrine and revive
That's it

I need buffslots for transpose,quickcast and surecast and possible safetyzones

Any other buff in this mode is fucking worthless your minimal dps increases from the party buffs are only detrimental to the fight as I have to spend time clicking them away as they pop up


I just pray for comfy to come up with the buff remove addon
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>>150001326
Play the game retard fuck.
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>>150001335
>kek
Kek
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>>150001445
BITCH YOURE GONNA TAKE MY 130 BLESSING AND LIKE IT
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>>150001329
>Spamming pots all day
I don't see the reason behind being salty about this. Everybody can use pots and do it all day. You should be salty about bleeding which can't be cured unless you got a cleric.
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so now that sorc1 is confirmed shit ( doubly so with the indirect bee nerf ) whats the replacement in the standard necro build?

thaum1 seems to be the only thing that brings anything to the table aside from linker2. or could ele1 be worth taking for some extra damage?
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>>150001445
If I get any thaums in PvP I'll be sure to roll my face across my buff bar just for you. I'm sure you love monstrance.
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>>150001572
>sorc1 is confirmed shit
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>>149995712
> He doesn't know.
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>>150001445
Really nigga?

>>150001541
>salty about spamming pots
Who is?
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>>150001638
>le trole face

I don't need you to pretend to be retarded to piss me off, I already have all the retards doing that every game anyways.
You think priests don't cast monstrance at 1.1k + ?
They do it all the time anyways.

You'll make no difference to me
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>>150001541
Speaking of pots, you can actually spam it again after getting a pass from chrono 3.

I hope more people in my team actually make use of this.
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>>150001445
Thats exactly why I quit my thaum with pugs. Last straw was featherfoot buffing enchant fire and reflect shield. You would think at least a fucking wizard would know better.
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>>150001719
Clerics have two more buffslots than wizards
get your shit outta here if you don't want to make your DPS's life harder in arena

losing good buffs to blessing monstrance and stoneskin is game-losing
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>>150001719
>using items allowed is being a tryhard now
>he's a cleric
KEK
E
K
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Which exp resets we have at 200+? It's my first character and I want to plan accordingly.
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>>150002008
Just buy daino scrolls from your friendly neighborhood pardoner. Who's on your team spamming buffs :^)
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>>150002008
Doing pretty good in top 10 right now by spamming my "+400 pure damage on every single damage line" Blessing senpai.
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>>150002270
Only 236. The next one will be 286 whenever we can level past 280.
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>>150002231
You don't even know where you're going with this shitpost do you?
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>>150001669
controlling TS is frustrating as hell desu. its also pretty unreliable in a full int build because you cant stand on top of the enemies ass all the time to get value from him.

even just for leveling, nothing happens without magic missiles or JP. by the time ts and autos end up killing a dude your cds are back up anyways.

sorc1 was only good at afking bees, and now that its overpopulated as well as not that efficient its hardly worth taking.

deb8 me.
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>>150002281
Pardoner with priest3 and daino would still be better than chap though in arena
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>20 minute queue
>4 people
>all 4 want to go in, but don't want to lose the bonus exp, and the matchmaking still waiting for a 5th person

This sucks.
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>>150002420
>that guy is the most tryhard I've seen in arena so far. Spamming pots all day and even getting wins after he's the last man standing, even soloing clerics.

You are salty to Lily. Just admit it sfdgsf.
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Reminder that Fwee3 is the best r8 archer class.
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>>150002612
If you read the chain of replies it's pretty obvious that I'm praising him, do you have poor reading comprehension or are you mentally ill? Maybe you're just addicted to the shitposting life?
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>>150002617
Sorry, you can't take Falc3 and Mergen
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>>150002291
Just lucky you haven't been matched against me yet :^)
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So, you can only feed the penguin with that cash item food? This is Elsword all over again.
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>>150001445
Oh, do you don't want my daino then?

That's what I thought you fucking faggot...
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>The new ‘Bird Fall’ skill was created to deal serious damage to flying-type monsters. In PvP combat, this skill disables flying statuses and is notably strong against flight-type classes.
FF2 BTFO
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One way to find out if your kabalist is a shitter that gets its points by being carried, is by seeing when he casts x7.
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>>150003001
Daino is a secondary buff not a buff buff

That doesn't count
You can put a print of your ass on my secondary line of buffs I don't care as long as it doesn't bump of good shit
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>>150003032
>pedro is still going to go ff
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>>150003032
>flight-type classes
Isn't that literally only FF2?
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>>150002854
>r9
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>>150003032
We have like, 3 classes right now who can use fly? (Psycho, FF, Falconer) Is it really that relevant?

Either way, Archers having strong front against flying isn't necessarily a new thing, especially when retrieve is so posted here.
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>>150002008
t.shitter who don't make use of sacrament + last rite + blessing

Wizard can destroy almost everything in short time by just click dragging when they are under this buff, provided they actually know how to AA.
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>>150003032
It's still a musket skill though. Any bow skill you already have is probably just as good from the attribute.
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>>150003230
>next friday
>cleric preview
>2 of them are flying too
>weeks after that, more details about all classes and some more can fly too

hehehehe
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>>150003230
flying types*

raise
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>>150003314
Anyone can destory everything if the other team doesn't have heals or is composed of sub-10k health garbage
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>>150003314
>click dragging
What's this?
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>>150003351
>One of the new cleric classes has a party wide flying buff
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>>150003314
It's pretty good damage specially since they can just jump spam auto attacks, but what do you expect from tosg shitters who try to boast that they're better than you anonymously

le meme face :^)
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>>150003314
>sacrament + last rite + blessing
Does this give holy property attack bonus damage in arena? I'd just use that to cast than AA, if not, then I'll AA.
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>>150003290
>Retrieve
That's Snatching, though Retrieve does get the bonus from 2h bows vs flying.
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>>150003351
>everyone can fly over everything
>people wonder why lancer/cannoneer attribute was even added
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What future does my Sword3>Pel>Cor1>Dop>Shinobi have?
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>>150002991
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>>150003621
sounds legit
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>>150003732
What were you thinking?
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>>150003732
WHAT DO YOU FUCKING THINK
YOU WENT FUCKING SWORDMAN, STRIKE ONE
YOU WENT MOTHERFUCKING SWORDIE 3, STRIKE TWO
YOU WENT FUCKING SHINOBI, STRIKE 3
FUCKING
KILL
YOURSELF
YOU HAD NO FUTURE THEN, YOU HAVE NO FUTURE NOW, EVEN IF YOU WENT FUCKING BARB FOR THE +SLASH DAMAGE ON DOUBLE SLASH YOU'D STILL BE SHIT

KYS RIGHT NOW
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I've been over this map about 10 times and I still can't find the box faggot.

Can anybody please tell me the general direction he was in when you found him?
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>>150003902
>>150003939
S-s-stop!!!
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>PVP is a joke in this game
>PVE is a joke in this game

why do we even play
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>>150003621
Tree of Birds confirmed

and
>shes planing a new R8 build without knowing that support/buff skills will be available in the R8 update
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>>150002291
Blessing is not why you are in the top 10.
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>>150003314
t. below 1k scrub/2v2 peasant
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>>150003732
>>150003998
Hi friend, I'm going Sword3/Pel/Cor2/Shinobi just to share your pain. At least you won't have to suffer alone.
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>>150004060
>>shes planing a new R8 build without knowing that support/buff skills will be available in the R8 update
What?
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>>150001472
You play the game you stupid shit.
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>>150004145
My kouhai, drop corsair2 and take cor1 and barb1. Save yourself.
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>>150004090
You wouldn't even have a clue as to why I'm in top 10 because you're not me.
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>>150004008
For cute
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>>150003646
Answer me please.
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>>150004323
>>150001719
x7 is why you are in the top 10.

in before it's because of monstrance. I mean, you are "doing pretty good in top 10 right now by spamming your +20% dex senpai."
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>>150004319
Stop? You want me to stop?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkRwcc1O3Fo
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>>150004113
t. sub 1k shitter who cry about teammate being shit.

Seriously, you guys have to adapt to your teammate. What's done is done, you can't change it.
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>>150004267
Please tell this idiot to play the game.
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>>150004687
Alright, prove you're not below 1k scrub/2v2 peasant then.
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>>150003464
Click on your enemy, hold it and drag away while jumping. You will attack at maximum aspd (faster than standing) while having great mobility.

Doing this almost ensure you no1 ranking in mission when you are sub rank 6. In PVP, it will often destroy your target if they are sub 20k hp and didn't do anything to stop your AA.
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>>150004409
Adds damage lines to autos, acts like arde for a abilities
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>>150004538
>Still trying to seek attention by randomly shitposting
You can't even recognize Capella. You don't even play the game so what makes you think you know more than me about my class? No need to be jealous friend, it's just a game.
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I've found a toy hammer from killing the bignig from Royal masoleum. Unfortunately, I'm an archer so I can't use it. Is there any class that uses it well and should I even build an alt around a level 40 weapon?
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>>150004932
>Capella
It doesn't matter autist. It's monstrance.
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>>150005112
Autoattack priest, no. Just sell it and buy a token
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>>150005117
Welp, I guess that's that. I was at least trying to enjoy your shitposting but you're giving me nothing to reply to. I mean what else can you say when you're getting BTFO left and right. Maybe you can try playing the game next time before you try to talk about it.
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>>150005384
Somebody told you to stop wasting buff slots and you reply "nah it's fine I'm top 10". Offuckingcourse, you could even do nothing but casting Revenged x7 and you would still be top 10.
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Is monk still terrible
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>>150005705
Unfortunately
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>>150005705
Fortunately
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>>150005705
Ambivalently
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>>150005952
How does such a thing even occur?
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>>150005705
Requesting a revised inquiry.
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>>150005621
Blessing is good, Stone Skin against any archer/swordsman is good. Quick Casting is 1 (one) buff slot, Ausrine lasts for 18 seconds and is only applied once on most games. Play the game retard, if you did you'd actually know which buffs actually gets used in arena.
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>>150005705
I died to one in team battle league
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>>150006317
just cast x7 and go afk in a corner, nobody gives a shit about your 0.5 x SPR neutered stone skin.
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Isn't Shinobi getting patched so Sword3 isn't the only build for it?
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>pvp is a joke
t. sub 1000
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>>150006317
It's one of those "I'll cast all my buffs and think I'm helping" episodes again.
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>>150006565
>try rodelero in 2v2
>they have a priest
>literally all my CC blocked except shield charge
>be useless for 35 seconds
Good meme.
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>>150006317
not him but I'm high enough in arena ranking to constantly play with and against top tiers

Here's what I need to click away every fucking round so I dont accidentally die from transpose disappearing
blessing
sacrament
stoneskin
last rites
aspersio
reflect shield
quicken
enchant fire
forecast

I also wish I could remove divine might but I cant for some reason so thats actually the worst
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>>150006565
>keeps on backpedaling
Wew lad, why are you so desperate for attention? Did your parents neglect you as a kid or something? You're trying your best to misinfo someone who actually plays the game.
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protip here for you guys

don't wear your costume it'll throw those zoomy cheaters off

stay rad brahs!!!
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>>150006967
>I also wish I could remove divine might
retard
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>>150006967
forecast isn't a line1 buff.
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>>150005952
STOP PLEASE
IT ONLY HAPPENED ONCE OUT THE DOZEN OR SO TIMES I'VE DONE PVP
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>>150006967
>Forecast
>Divine Might
>Blessing
at least you tried
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>>150007053
>>150007147

Well I'm not sure about forecast right now but Divine Might and Blessing are first line buffs don't know what you fags are greentexting about.

They're both useless to me compared to buffs that let me move around freely (like prophecy and bloodletting) or just be plain invulnerable (ausrine revive) or that have other good effects (sevenfold)
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>>150007438
Forecast is 100% not a line1 buff.
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Full Guild ET run and done with 5F cubes, atleast for the DPS side
Finally we have a lv 260 Chrono and ready for 5-10F
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>>150006985
>I'm top 10 therefore I'm right.
Like I said, it doesn't matter. You only need to cast your cheese when it's off cooldoawn and you'll still be in top 10. Your comments or opinions on other classes (which buffs are important, etc) have no weight.
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>>150004008
the deepest darkest masochism
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>>150007751
Its wrong screen shot capy, where is number.
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Hello, I'm here for the ET interview. I must tell you I won't cast Resurrection though.
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So what ever happened to Centurion?
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>>150007934
Hadn't screened it in time
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>>150007907
You're honestly obsessed with my ranking and all you can do is make excuses about how RSF is OP. My comments and opinions have more weight than all the nothing you're trying to argue to me about my own class. I can easily tell that you're taking this personal, maybe just get good so you wouldn't be so jealous of other people you literal who?
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>>150007993
Nothing wrong with that build.

As long monks have Cleric2, I don't even care whatever they're putting their points to, neither their skills(of course, heal 10)

>>150008017
Removed, concept was impossible to be implemented in the game. You can still say hi to Centurion Master at Forest of prayer tho.
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>>150007907
That's actually wrong

This is how you know the Kabbalist on your team is absolute trash at this game

>casts revenge sevenfold at the start of the match so it just gets consumed by ausrine buffed enemy team
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>>149995675
>he will commit sudoku

he will do a math puzzle?

you fail even at being a weeboo
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>>150008017
Still in-game, just locked unlike what >>150008421 claims. He even misses the point entirety of >>150007993 which just discredits him even more.

It's really, really hard to balance because it essentially allows players to afk and let a single person do all the work. That's the only problem with it.


So, how are all you tryhards dealing with Dex archers in PvP? Having fun losing?
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>>150008737
wow dude just neck and kys yourself like right now bro
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>tfw you'll never hug Koenig and say everything will be ok
why even live
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>>150009181
>hugging a monk
Might as well eat out a sorceress.
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Where's a good place to grind around level 110? The leveling guide just says the run the 90 dungeon and quest, but I've been sitting in queue for 30 minutes and I'm not using any cards.
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Hey guys, is oracle worth fitting in a cleric2>priest3 build?
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>>150009089
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>>150009381
Yes. Cleric2/Priest3/Oracle/Kabby
Become the cookie cutter.
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>>150009381
only if you want to be a god at PvP
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>>150009490
Alright thanks mate. Appreciate it.
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>>150009490
>Priest3
>Not Diev3
Retard
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>fell for the fortress meme
>the only thing it blocks is archer arrows
>monsters will literally just walk around it and one shot you if you deploy them anyway

Why

There is probably one whole line of code for monster AI and it has to be "walk around pavise"
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>>150009619
>Doesn't even read the conversation he's quoting
Retard.
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Why do R5 barbs keep showing up in my PvP teams?

Don't they know they'll be useless?
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>>150009328
But Koenig is pure. PURE! P-U-R-E!
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>>150009750
>Become the cookie cutter.
Read your own post retard
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>>150009750
Would going diev3 be better than going priest3?
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>>150009780
They just want their 50 points for the day anon.
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>>149995756
Holy fucking shit, I'd rather kill myself than play this game so many fucking hours a day!
Literally!
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>>150007751
what is that hamster?
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>>150009642
They make good poormans swash. Each pavise taunts 3 enemies.
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>>150009846
Depends on what you do in the game.
I'd say no for the most part though some would disagree.
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>>150009780
At least yours can stun CC people, my team is composed of pyroalchemists and pelthoplitesquires.
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>>150005206
Mannnn really? Fuck I was hoping to make a dank yet viable Toy Hammer spamming piece of shit.
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>>150009962
A guinea pig
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WHY AREN'T THERE ANY INNS YOU CAN GO INTO, SIT ON CHAIRS AND DRINK PIXEL BEER
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>>150009331
Go do missions broski. After that Mage Tower 1F/5F are both great grinding spots. Mage Tower 1F is a gold mine. Drake Horns sell well, Drake Films are super expensive and Rubblem Core are also super expensive. I'd actually recommend any new player to grind there until they can afford a token, best spot to make money until the 130 dungeon.
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>>150009846
I've never really had much trouble with Diev's to be honest, it's the stone skin res spamming oracles that drive me nuts

at least if its a Diev you don't have to worry about fighting 10vs5
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>>150010556
Because it's single player game. If it was multiplayer, it would be harder and there would be no quest based leveling.

Casuals and kiritos destroyed game industry.
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Is there any reason why C blocking doesn't consume stamina?
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>>150010881
So being multiplayer means being a soulless grind?
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>>150009442
>reflects one tick of damage

woah....so this is the power of kabbalist?
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>>150010889
coreans are fucking stupid
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>>150009846
Diev3 and Priest3 are equally great
Diev3 are Kings of static defense, everything who enter World Tree range won't be able to use skills, Laima is an absolute -20% CDs and -20% move speed for enemies, Owls in full INT are great DPS and Ausirine is just a broken OP statue PvE/PvP
Priest3 offer buffs and ressurection revive
Having both a Diev3 and a Priest3 in party makes the entire game stupidly easy
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>>149991762
5v5 gives you e-peen badge next to your name.
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>>150011087
And yet so many retards think it's op when it reflects anything that deals damage.
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>>150011065
Among other things, yes.

Also grind can be amazing with decent map and monster design. The problem is these days devs just copy from each other so we're getting the same shit in every game.
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so is SPR completely useless for caster classes? im doing cryomancer and most guides i read said dont bother with spr at all and do int/con
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>>150011315
>e-peen badge next to your name
like an ingame title? thats pretty cool
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Goddess Vakarine > every other goddess
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>>150011441
Depends on the class. It's okay for some Clerics and if you're Lolicuck you might put points in it.
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>>150011587
SPR is only for priest3 and no other class.
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>>150011315
Top 200 or 100?
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>>150011569
I am expert in Bakarine and i can tell thats one
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>>150011485
If you open spectacing you'll see that certain red badge with rank number. Those are given out after ranking resets on monday.

>>150011827
I think I've never seen anyone below top 100 in few screenshots from korea, but maybe that's because they don't have more than 100 players.
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Need your advice /tosg/

I'm Wiz3-Link1-Sorc2, i want to take necro1 at R7 for the FC. How fucked am i?
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>>150012021
Beyond repair.
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Newbie here,pls no bully I just got this recipe
http://tos.neet.tv/items/7141045

Is it good? Is worth using it over an Arde Dagger/Beetleback?

I d-don't know how much this is worth ;_;
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>>150011363
Name something with amazing grind. It's not RO. I just liked killing things, not grinding.

Diablo 2 is fun for reasons other than grinding.
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>>150012291
Yes, its better than Arde.
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>>150012291
You can't trade it but its good

It's basically a weaker arde but with block on it
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>>150012291
i wish they add 220 shields like that.
maybe 14x elem dmg
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>>150012021
really bad idea, FC5 is not worth it, it takes the same amount of time to even charge as a FC10 since it has scaled charging and its affected by AOE ratio heavily. Go Warlock if you want to PvP, or Featherfoot since you already got a point in linker
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which guild in klaipedo has the least amount of anime erp nerds.
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Sword3>Pel>Barb>Dop>Shinobi . Is that alright? Should I take more Barb circles vs Sword circles to make it any better?
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>>150012904
Clover
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>>150012323
Any game with really mobby maps, unlimited aggro, specialized classes or at least possibility to specialize gears, monsters diverse enough to make using at least few tactics and party class-setups worth using, dynamic buff and debuff scaling, without too big penalties for partying.
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>>150012904
Futureproof
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how many kills for wizard bracelet?
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>>150012323
Wakfu :^) thats probably just me though. Every day I wonder why mmo devs spend forever making shitty broken REAL TIME HELLA PVP combat systems, when a turn based one thats more balanced is usually funner, takes more skill and is probably easier to do.
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>>150012323
Diablo 2 is fun purely because of the grind. Same with poe. All good MMOs have had great grinds, but the reason why the grind is good is because they're MMOs - thus you have people going around and you get to interact with them. That's what made the grind good.
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>>150012904
Probably FutureProof.
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>>150012904

FOE, Futureproof, Clover

Any guild except for CuteNotLewd really that's the containment guild for those types of people.
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>>150012904
honestly FOE
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>>150013213
True, wakfu was the shit near the end of open beta. Became progressively shittier as everything was made more "accessible", less meaningful, and less social.
>removal of world bosses
>removal of most multipeople secrets
>haven fucking worlds
>everyone having every profession
>fucking easy-mode dungeons
Awful, just awful.
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>>150012927
anyone respond? ;_;
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>>150013170
They're not DPK based, I dropped both within 5 minutes..
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>>150013380
is true. I remember coming back to it so I could see how my favorite mmo was doing and then crying.
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>>150013446
reee i'm at 700 kills

it would be faster to just farm the silver and buy the thing..
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>>150013213
>Wakfu
Amazing game, too bad it's pretty dead and boring nowadays.
Heroes pack was a mistake though, I had so much fun playing in different parties, now I'm literally soloing everything in a full party of me and myself with 2 accounts and booster/heroes packs since everyone is doing the same
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>>150013725
I had 700 kills from the previous day too, keep trying, you can do it!
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>>150012927
>>150013383
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wiz 3 linker 3 featherfoot 2
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>>150013856
>Parties
>Wakfu

>1 minute each fucking turn of afk people
>110% chall BEEP failed
>"lemme misposition u so i can deal my EPIK dps"
>"wanna party?" "sry we need x class build" "but we can beat it with me" "well we can't cheese it with you"

Play the (other) game.
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>>150013217
>Diablo 2 is fun purely because of the grind
You enjoy playing D2 to level up? Seriously? Killing monsters because it's fun to kill them isn't grinding. Killing them because you're on your way to max level is. And that's why you enjoy it? To take a new character to max level?

>>150013213
I never played Wakfu but Dofus was boring as shit after a while.

>>150013006
Give me a real answer.
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>>150013889
t-thanks

theres 3 other ppl here who don't even need the bracelet but i will persevere...
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>>150012927
Shinobi just got a ton of changes on kToS so nobody knows what's best yet. And doppel/shinobi is something I've never heard of so it's probably shit.
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>>150013984
Good build
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Facts everyone knows:

Clerics are carried by their class and build to high rank

No other class has this much of an easymode climbing ranks as clerics as the match is OFTEN decided by which team has a Priest3/PD/Kabba/Oracle or not.

If both teams have meta build clerics then it comes down to which DPSers and CCers play better

Clerics skill (they don't have any because they play supports) has almost no effects on the outcome of a match past their existence as heal and buffbot.
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Have they fixed the game yet? I want to play an RPG type game with good enough character building to create unique and strong characters.
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>>150014209
>(they don't have any because they play supports)
Get your shitty old memes out of here, DPSfaggot.
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>>150014162
What were the changes asides from a couple of new skills added to bunshins list?
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>>150014158
>the only kind of grind is leveling up
Retarded or clinically retarded?
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>>150014359
You can grind for lots of things, but grinding is working at something by doing a repetitive task over and over. If you're doing something for fun, you aren't grinding, unless you're autistic and doing repetitive task is what you enjoy the most in the world.

So are you autistic?
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>>150014539
Clinically retarded it is, huh. My condolences.
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>>150014238
>good enough character building to create unique and strong characters.
enjoy your barbc3doppelc3 and elec3warlockc2
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>>150014698
>barbc3doppelc3
>elec3warlockc2
>c
>c
>c

End your life
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>>150014925
Are you actually retarded?
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>>150014238
It turned out every meta meme build except elememe that /tosg/ pushed was wrong and shit. Just build whatever you want and you'll probably be fine.
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Explain why a Fletch3 should take Mergen as R8
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>>150015050
I really like Wugushi. I can't tell what the new Rank 8 is though, but it looks really good for AoE. I'd like to do Archer3Wugu3Scout?Newr8
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>>150014925
That's standard terminology. It means circle you autist.
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>>150015193
explain why Fletchc3 should take anything besides the mongolian archer class
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>>150015204
Reconsider archer 3. A2's mostly taken for swift step which wugushi doesn't care about. Scout 3 is fine. Maybe drop a circle of archer for cannon and the other circle for ranger.
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>>150015231
>>150014994

No standard terminology is barb3doppel3
That way you can also say it out loud without sounding retarded "Barb three doppel three"

With a c tacked inbetween it sounds majorly retarded

"Barb C three, doppel C three"
or even worse
"Barb circle three, doppel circle three"
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>>150012904
f.o.e has no erp at all
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>>150015265
some fags say that Fletch3 should take Hacka, and that Mergen synergy better with archer farming builds or SR2
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>>150014156
Griefing and friendly fire were part of the fun too, you know. But yeah, you're right.

>Play the (other) game.
Now I really want to, but time has passed and I don't want to go back to either, maybe.
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>>150015481
>both cripplingly autistic and wrong
You poor thing.
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>>150015521
take Hackapell so you can run to Cerb faster, it's genus
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>>150015664
I wonder if you can get a mergen hat just for picking mergen, I don't want to level a corsair just to lockpick thet chest for it
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>>150015664
Physical dps OUT
Magic IN
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>>150015757
>tfw no Magic Archer class with arrows that explode into more arrows that bounce off enemies that do magic damage
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Just downloaded this shit, 2 hours in as Priest, no idea what the fuck I'm doing. Is there a resource that just explains the game well some where?
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>>150015965
No there is no guide that could help clinically retarded people to not be retarded anymore.
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some ppl for storage at Klaipeda?
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>>150015757
The only magic dps in r8 is 5 more levels of flesh cannon famalam. And even then Necro gets some physical dps in archers.
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>>150015965
get blessing, if you go priest2 get 1 in sacrament and then go back to blessing. Most of the resources on this game are shit and the ingame info is no better. The thread is also full of shitposters so you're better off asking someone in game.
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>>150015393
I'm already Archer C3, I know I fucked up. Right now I'm Archer C3, Wugushi C2. I was also thinking about Archer C3, Wugushi C2, Fletcher C3 when R8 comes out. I could become boss destroyer incarnate.
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>>150014209
You have no idea how long I keep these useless retards in my team up alive and they don't do any fucking damage. An ACTUALLY good dps can carry if you play well enough.
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>>150015870
That's called Magic Missile.
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In kTOS, no matter how shit PvP was, I never had problems with AFKers in there. As expected of white people.....
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wait, corsairs can use manamana? i thought it was archer only.
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>>150016617
Of course pirates can use guns.
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>>150016617
Corsair 3 can use guns
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>>150016572
That's what I'm saying
A dps has to be good to carry themselves up the rank

Clerics just need to exist and faceroll their skills and they win 70% of all matches
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>>150012429
>>150012439
Thanks fampais, going to craft it.
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>>150016513
Hm. Well, at that point, if rerolling is off the table, I guess you don't have much choice. Fletcher scales heavily with levels (it's the number of hits on magic missile, scales massively) so you'll miss out on a ton of damage until R8 if you go the Fletcher 2 route.

At the very least, A3 Sc3 is a god tier farmer, wugushi aside. So the character will never be useless, can still farm gear for others.
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>Buy a TP bundle
>Literally do not get my TP

Alright.
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So cannon c2 is pretty much the siege tank of ToS? If so that would be awesome. I wonder if it could be buffed with RS. Knowing IMC though it wont.
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>>150017274
I just bought some 30 minutes ago and had no issues.
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>>150017470
Rank 1 Necro abuses some sort of leave bug

Had him earlier in a match and we had no healer
He disconnected or something
I checked his ranking earlier and when I got out of the match it was the same as before.
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>>150017596
>Trappe getting cucked by Mia and Agapi again

Can you guys stop, don't want him to afk on my team again to vent out his suppressed anger
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>>150017596
Yeah I don't know maybe I bugged it somehow. I was logged in when the TP bundle appeared and I clicked on it and nothing happened. IMC's coding couldn't handle that apparently. Still had the same amount of TP after multiple relogs too.

I sent a ticket so hopefully I get my TP within a day.
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So what do you think are going to be the meta builds for archers now?

A2 R3/QS3 SR3 is a given, that shit looks so dank.

A2 QS3/Hunter3 Falcon3

A2 R1 Scout3 SR1 Mergen1

A2 R1 Scout1 Fletcher3 Mergen1/Hack1/Rogue1

A1 R3/QS3 Rogue2 Scout1 Hack1

A1 QS3 Scout1 Falcon1 Cannon2/Musket2
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>>150016602
they're probably shitskins not white people
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>>150017795
I'm joining with my rodelero next time. Just you wait.
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>>150018017
Some Hunter2 Scout needs to be there.
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>>150017596
Orsha is officially ERP town
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>>150018017
A2H3F3 and A2H2S1F3 master race.
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>>150018248
Please don't bring Moonie back here, it's a nice place.
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>>150018017
>A2 R3/QS3 SR3 is a given, that shit looks so dank.
You can no longer attack during running shot. I highly doubt you'll be able to attack during the forward moving one either. QS3 is now the worst choice.

>A2 QS3/Hunter3 Falcon3
Meme shit. Falcon without A3 or musket is retarded.

>A2 R1 Scout3 SR1 Mergen!
Cloak dismounts you, this build sucks.

>A2 R1 Scout1 Fletcher3 Mergen1/Hack1/Rogue1
See above.

I can't read any more of these shit builds sorry.
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So making first character since beta, which i didnt play much.

Going wizard 2 pyro 2 sorcerer 2 and warlock. Is this good, bad, what would you change? Il probably stick with it anyways cause first character but anything to make my GAMER EXPERIENCE more enjoyable is cool. Thought about going featherwalker or w/e last but idk.

Also wizard 2 already happened. I figured the no interrupt would be useful for summoning later?
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>database patch never
I don't want to live in real life!
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>>150018374
>Falcon without A3 or musket is retarded.
You don't understand the power of coursing and fwee combined.
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>>150018454
but Rance is already 3D, why would we need database?
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>>150018568
And you clearly don't have a hunterfwee. It's not good.
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>>150018415
Yeah it's a decent build
Don't let misinfo agents talk you out of it you definitely want wiz2 for your summoning creatures.

Warlock and Sorcerer have great synergy too using dark magic
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>>150018374

>You can no longer attack during running shot. I highly doubt you'll be able to attack during the forward moving one either. QS3 is now the worst choice.

This is a retarded meme that needs to die. Retreat shot is an aoe skill and running shot is a single target skill. They're used for different scenarios.

it's the same logic as "hurr you can't use cannon shot and running shot at the same time, don't go cannoner on QS3 build"
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>2h weapons will never get buffed enough to compete with 1h + offhand

I hate this game.
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>>150018415
wiz3 linker > wiz2 pyro2
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>>150018364
You guys are more rabid ERPers than moonie ever was, you're there all day.
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>>150018620
You're an idiot. QS3 SR2 was once the prime SR2 build because you could auto attack during retreat shot which made your DPS go through the roof.
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>>150018623
play the game sub 200 shitter
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>>150018749
I did, but now I'm not sub200 anymore.
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>>150018734

It made your SINGLE target dps go through the roof but it's completely unnoticeable when you're trying to aoe down a pack of mobs.

And it still didn't compare to Fletcher3's in terms of damage.
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>>150018594
Yep, totally don't.
Nope, no hunterfwee here.
Hunter3Falcon not so great regardless of the fun factor, but hunter2scout1falconer is going to be the best and I'll prove it
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>>150018734

QS3 SR2 is for mobility and speed farming. You go R3 if you want to specialize in aoe damage.
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I wish rank 8 would hurry up and come so I could go Corsair 3 and Doppel 1.

Anyway, here's a build I'm planning.

Swordsman 1 > Peltasta 1 > Hoplite 2 > Corsair 1 > Doppelsoldner 1 > Corsair 2 and then Corsair 3.

and here are the skills.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11344898.23334554.153545.1a283a5171.1a557585.153555

What do you guys think?
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>>150018714
fuck off moonie's crush
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>>150019547
>>150018714
t. moonie_
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>>150019547
>>150019657
Triggered ERPers
It's so easy, not even trying.
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>>150020067
t. Mia
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>>150018017
Stop posting GW1 icons, it hurts
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what classes got screwed with the R8 announcement? corsair and rogues?
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>>150020536
>rogue screwed
>when hackapel exists
Rogue did better than most.
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>>150020536
Archers

Swordman will be DPS king desu
Elememe still be elememe with chappa cards
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>>150020183
>>150019657
they are the same tho

>>150020183
anon, she quit.
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Where did that one blogging elementalist go that was going to replace Moonie and Mia
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/tobog/ - tree of beta orbiters general
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>>150020457

That's what makes posting them so fun aurel.

I'm almost enjoying my sadness.
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>>150020824
This is what happens when no PVP is on

And people say ToS isn't about PVP
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>>150020864
I miss GW1 too. I tried to get my two leveling partners into it after they tried and got tired of GW2 but it was too late. They couldn't appreciate it any more.

I was a Necromancer in that, too.
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>>150020815
Gero got bored and left.
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Wiz3 -> Link1 -> Sorc1 -> Necro2

or

Wiz3 -> Kino3 -> WL

Which one is more fun/end-game viable?
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>>150020978
Man, I remember when we actually tried to get into that again.
That sure didn't last long.
I think my account is still in the guild too
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>>150018568
Dumb Mikuposter.
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can somebody link me the discord?
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>>150019480
Please respond. I'm wondering if I should just get rid of Doppel, go corsair 3 and then shinobi for r8, or keep it as it is and go corsair 3 with doppel.
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>>150020978
>Not being part of the Ranger master race
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>>150021126
>Wiz3 -> Link1 -> Sorc1 -> Necro2
This is the standard PVE/fun Necro build and is extremely effective. In case you don't already understand why, Flesh Cannon is subject to AoE Attack Ratio and it's really tough/inconvenient for Wiz to stack that. Cat buffs fix this problem. You can't control your TS, but you have a shitload of pets and the cat buff helps immensely with necro.

>Wiz3 -> Kino3 -> WL
This build is seriously godlike. I knew it would be strong but I didn't realize just how strong it was. Raise/Pole is just the tip of the iceberg, the shit you can do like magnetic force ball rush is retarded. It's really, really good. If you're serious about PVP I'd consider that one.

>SS
I really miss duoing with my 55 partner.
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>>150021126
im currently wiz3>kino2 and its a bit painful but fun hopefully kino3 makes it better
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My MMR is not important... What is important is what I'm going to do... I just fucking hate this game, and the subhuman clerics and wizards fucking up my games.. My whole life is just cold, bitter hatred, and I always wanted to feed violently. This is the time of vengeance, and no game is worth saving. And I will destroy games as many as I can.. It's time for me to afk and bump off good buffs. And it's time for me to lose.
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>>150020667
Don't think you can burrow or feint when mounted but i suppose its better than nothing. backstabbing with a swords sounds neat but will it be better than karacha?
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>>150021476
Alright famalam, just tell me when you're going to shoot up the arena and I'll dodge the queue
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>>150021476
t. Trappe
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>>150019480
>5/5 guardian
lmao
>no 1 point in mord for strike damage since you can't use shield with corsair
lmao

etc. etc.

But in honestly don't go corsair, its a worthless path until r9 comes around since r8 gives it nothing
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>>150021359
Initially, I was considering the Kino version, but wasn't sure how well it would perform outside PvP.
Thanks for your input, I'll give it a second thought once I class up.

I also miss farming UW.
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>>150021556
I was under the impression you can feint, but my rogue and my SR are on different characters, so I'm not actually 100% sure.

I'm less interested in backstabbing with a sword than I am in abusing the dash to quicker circle bosses to maintain the proper positioning, and the additional movespeed (which is mostly the dash; the mount bonus feels like nothing) to close gaps for barrage and backstab but backstabbing with a sword is an interesting idea. I really doubt it'll outdamage karacha set.
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>>150018068
It's definitely white people. I dealt with this in FFXI.
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How much evasion do I need before I can start dodging everything in PvP like those stupid catagoons do?
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>>150021784
Can't talk much for Kino outside PVP. My build includes Kino2 and Magnetic Force is nice for grouping things up but you don't have a skill you need that for (I use it for Flesh Cannon.) From what I've heard Pole is amazing in group grinding, at least. Psychic Pressure is nice and locks down groups so you can whittle them down solo or your group can kill them.

I should warn you about pets in PVP, I've never played a sorc but necro pets are only good for questing. If you're grinding they harm pulls too much for you to want them out. I imagine templeshooter isn't very different. When grinding the first build, you'll mostly be without pets, so keep that in mind when thinking about what you enjoy.
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Is the Circling attribute supposed to come with C3 only or can you get it before c3? I really want to be Mergen but I also want that new Circling attribute they showed.
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>>150022015
>I should warn you about pets in PVP
This should say PVE. Pets are amazing in PVE and you don't have to worry about pulls obviously. Everything in that second paragraph is about PVE.
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>>150021359
what about wiz3>link>sorc2>WL

and in any of those builds how would you distribute stats?
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>>150021980
> dodging everything in PvP

you can't evade magic anon
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>>150022130
Very likely c3 only.
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>>150022163
>>150022015
>hurr amazing
fucking american faggot
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>>150022165
Again I'm not much of a sorc expert, I've never played the class, but I do have a pretty decent understanding of it I think. The leader of Clover plays a Wiz3 Link1 Sorc3 however (very well, too, one of the highest ranked TBL /tosg/ players) and feels that build is the correct all-around build for Sorc. They believed sorc3 is a good choice for PVP but stated many times sorc2 warlock is great too and is better in PVE.

>stats
Depends on your goals. If you're going to PVP, you'll want a lot of CON. 120 or more I would say. Otherwise, INT is fine as far as I know but maybe a sorc player could chime in with more information because I'm really out of my element here. SPR harms sorcs because of their summon % consumption.
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>>150022290
>bullying rance
>>>/out/
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>>150022506
>bwaa my who bf

fuck off and die piece of shit
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>>150022198
Die wizards
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>>150021980
>before I can start dodging everything in PvP
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>>150022632

>not posting rank
>gets mad when we don't listen to his opinion
>mfw
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How to get food buff from squire for an hour?

We tried to invite him in party and making a table but a buff is still 30 minutes only.
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>>150022918
>someone with default brown gets near me
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>>150022931
post your rank first faggot
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Does anyone have a preview of the hair dyes?
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>>150022918

>mfw someone with their soulless, pleb brown eyes looks at me

Disgusting.
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>log in
>don't get that thing I want
>log out
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>>150023275
lolipan you'll have to come back for gvg tonight
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>>150022918
the pinoy hunter guild made that?
anyone of them around? if so, can you ask the violet lense wiz to make pics of other costumes with these lense? wiz,wl,etc? if she has them
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>>150021828
uhmmm backstab requires bow and dagger
hackapell and rogue dont mix at all
>>
Who here ready for hackapell?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#31444999.15254451.1f21334f516575.1a28314a65718a
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Time to open my Saalus cubes for today!
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>>150023663
also nearly all rogue skills, including backstab, cannot be used whle mounted
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>>150023663
I don't think this is a problem really. Rogues don't leave their dagger on 24/7, because it fucks their evasion (I suppose full STR rogues don't worry about this so much) so they just autoswap for it. Sadly this causes skips/delay during backstabs but it's not usually so bad that it bothers me.

Cannon skills dismount (at the moment) so it's not like you'd have to pack a cannon, I don't see any reason you couldn't fit a sword in one of your 3 sets.

>>150023819
This, however, I didn't realize and is a massive dealbreaker. I can't think of much use for Hackapell in that case, besides getting to world bosses faster.
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>>150022969
Scales with tent level and attributes, if both are maxed it should last 1hr+...
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>>150023707
Can't wait to get another plunger
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>>150024256
>he doesn't know how op plungers are
:^)
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>>150022632
this
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>>150023020
Quit making me rdp from work now.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/treeofsavior/comments/4v7xqq/people_should_be_banned_for_tbl_if_intentionally/?st=ir8a031f&sh=c1143a87
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>>150021126
SorcNecro2 is a good investment in the future when all of your friends quit the game, at least you still have your trusty companions and minions serving under you with their undying loyalty.
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>>149996296
meant in ktos
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Is it a good idea to try out
wiz1pyro1link1thaum2necro1War?
How should I even go about thaum2?
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>>150024840
>51 now
>2vs2
>lyin this hard in casual matsch

sure pit fighter HAHAHAHA

is FP full of lier trash talkers ?

>dvine
>rance
>cats
>lolipan
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>>150025212
put the pizza down friend
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>>150024840
>no pizza
nice fake, buddy
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>>150025212
>doesn't post rank
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>>150025212
>dvine in fp
>rance talking trash ever
There is so much wrong with this post I don't know where to start.
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>>150025212
>trash talker
yes

>liar
>futureproof member
no
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@150025212
You sure got 'em, (You)!
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>>150025949
I think he's the same spastic that imploded about cats being an avatarfag the other day LOL
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>>150026067
>@
(you)
>>
>all this buttmad FP faggots

delicious
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>>150026221
oh the irony is stronk in this one
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>>150013446
>DPK based

What's this mean?

>>150014629
His definition of grinding is spot on, actually.
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/Ohayou/ when?
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>>150026221
>got a reply from dvine who isn't in fp
>and cats who will reply to literally anything
you did it!
>>
>start client up
>check FPS
>literally 0.067 FPS (that's 1 frame every 15 seconds)
Uuuuhm, tostards? Explain you're selfs.
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>>150026609
hehehehe
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I'm throughly convinced some anon is sitting at his pc samefagging and pretending to be FP. The levels of unemployment that allow for such scheming are somewhat unfathomable to me, but holy fuck am I having a chuckle. Honestly why doesn't everyone just pretend to be someone else on the threads all the time? I'm gonna give it a try. Here goes.

atom out
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>>150026609
I prefer treetard thank you very much.
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>Mithril down to 340k
>Terranium down to 60k
Cheaper high level monster drops is also nice.
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>>150026560
Get a trip.
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>>150026726
I prefer Noire's fat ass.
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>>150026789
Why? I'm not going anywhere.
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>>150026831
>not loving the best neet
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>>150026831
Uni > Noire
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>>150026831
>>150026980
>>150026995
Nepgear > all
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>>150026980
Gross.
>>150026995
Can't agree but Uni is nice.
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>it's another futureproof-hater anon completely spergs out and will do anything to get cats and dvine to reply to him episode
guess you need SOMETHING to do during fedimian dungeon queues
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>>150026160
>avatarfag
He is not? Stupid normie.
>>150025949
>rance talking trash ever
Your boyfriend once harassed me for my not perfect english and called me toxic when I told him he is a shitter that would die from a mission boss (and he did).

Both of you faggots were brought here by the retarded redditor. You stink.
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>>150026831
Uni and Nepgear are the superior NepNeps.
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Why does everyone think hl1barb3 is the best doppel build?? Explain this.
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>>150027284
It's another "I only want to fuck children" episode
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>>150027268
This is just sad. Do you feel better now that you've filled out your blog?
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>>150027290
What build do think is better, anon?
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>>150027290
Cross Guard is very strong, and doesn't really fall off. The crit damage attribute is icing on the cake. Barb1 is basically required now with the slashing debuff, but I'm not really convinced on Barb3. What other options are you considering? Maybe we can find some new viewpoints for you to look at.
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>>150027350
Shit taste.
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>>150025212
>matsch
Kill yourself patsch you fukcing bug exploiter
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>>150027586
>crit damage attribute
>+50% more on the stat called crit attack
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>>150027586
I still think hl3barb1 is a strong contender. You still get your cleave bonus and the debuff. The trade off is maybe the ease of questing early to mid by not going barb3.
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>>150027350
Most Neps fall into that category.

I also really like Neptune. She's the only smart and self-aware character in the series. She only chooses to act stupid and aloof.
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>>150027880
>Most Neps fall into that category.
Not even half of them do, that's a strange definition of most you've got there.
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>>150026784
I don't like it, rare recipes being from dungeons while rare materials are from grinding was a nice compromise between the people who prefer to grind and people who prefer dailies. Now obtaining Terranium/Mithril is tied to dailies as well.
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>>150027654
Good post friend

That's exactly what I like to see when I open the thread and ctrl + f my name
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>>150020536
QS3
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OK this is boring as fuck. It's about my weekend and I need something to make me chuckle so let's do the opposite of all these BEST BUILD posts:

Give me your WORST BUILD and stats for any class and I'll play it and post updates this weekend. Make it absolutely Koenig status and give me something terrifying.
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>>150027426
>blog
You should stay silent for a while. Learn what the maymays you use mean.
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>>150028028
>Koenig status
just play koenig's monk build
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>>150027754
>hl3barb1
Honestly I'm rolling a PVE-only HL3 for this later, I want to solo the guild dungeon for my guild but the real reason is the HL3 costume is just too fucking cool.

HL3 is getting a lot stronger in Korea. They just massively buffed the base damage of Vertical. While this doesn't necessarily fix the problems with the skill and the heavy investment, it's a nice step in the right direction and at least we know IMC is trying to help the class after gutting skyliner.

I've also heard that cross slash (or whatever it's called; the bleed) ticks about twice as fast as the other bleeds, which is neat.

I would never build around early questing. It blows by so fast and that's something you'll regret for the rest of your character. Also, HL3 destroys mercenary bosses, and with DPE abuse you actually get a ton of EXP from mercenary runs even long after it's less effective for everyone else. From what I've heard this was one of the ways Katz leveled so fast solo.
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>>150028020
>QS3
>screwed
>Circling attribute
u wot?
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>>150028115
I said I wanted to play something terrible, not kill myself
>>
Another anon here - so If i wanted to make a barb alt what can I try out?
Is this still r8 future proofed: SwordsPeltBarb3Fencer2?
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>>150028396
>make it absolutely Koenig status
>doesn't want it koenig status
k senpai
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>>150027965
Of the main cast, excluding their HDD forms, only Vert is obviously outside of the child-like range. Every other nep falls somewhere in the pedo-hebe range. It doesn't help that they all act and think as if they were 11.
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>>150028453
Besides the weaponswap meme builds with hoplite or cross guard I believe this is still the standard Fencer build. Keep in mind you won't have a shield on Fencer when you're trying to do damage (they have an attribute for non-shield) but you can swashbuckle with a dagger anyway.

I'm still not sold Barb3 but I don't really see any better options. Make sure you completely understand how Frenzy or Warcry (whichever one you want most) work before you roll this build, I know someone who went barb fencer and regrets it because they didn't really understand Warcry.
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>>150028396
Cleric>Priest3>Monk2>PD
main stat, SPR
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>>150028061
>makes up a dank story filled with tears about how he can't handle the English language
>posts it on vg
>it's not a blog
tell FOE i said hi and i will up vote your next post
>>
HOLY SHIT EVERGARDEN'S BACK NIGGAS
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>>150028931
DELETE THIS
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>>150028028

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#313289e.152545.152545.1321314555.152535.13253245.21455465
>>
Ah yes. 10k HP Monks. Give me more.
>>
>>150028735
Thank you, I guess I'll try to find more videos to see it all better
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>>150027754
Cleave and seism are reliable moves, doing decent damage and having low cds and overheat. Highlander doesn't have that currently. Warcry and even Frenzy (now has str scaling in ktos) are useful with Deeds, this new Pouncing is also great vs bosses, though not that reliable of a move.

However, Highlander is getting buffed and I agree with >>150028262, these ktos changes were a step in the right path, although I still wonder how good this Vertical Slash buff will be. I'd say to wait some time before saying which one is better. In a perfect world, there's a horizontal difference between Barbarian and Highlander. not a vertical one.
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>>150027039
>>150026831
>>150026980
>>150026995
Idol > All
And Nepgear is a giant shit.

>>150028028
Build of kings, sword version.
>>
GIVE ME MORE 10K HEALTH PLAYERS PLEASE
>>
>>150029761
>not wanting the fletcher that forgot to bring broadhead arrows
Oh, so you like it easy do you?
>>
>>150023224
>>150022918
These are useful!
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>when someone recognizes who i am and is really nice but not sure if theyre being sarcastic
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>>150029761
How do I achieve more than 10k in TBL? my archer is glass cannon even with some con investment
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>>150030029
From our understanding, headgear doesn't work in TBL, so don't go looking to HP hats (this would be my first suggestion for anywhere else, though.)

Max Petamion gives a not-insignificant amount of HP (1190 I think?) through the CON, so I'd get someone with a peta to test taking it on and off in the TBL and see if those stats apply. If they do that's a good and reasonably cheap place to start.
>>
Anyone want to give some insight into the path they take when making a new character, in terms of items they use and buy?

E.g. "when I make a new character, I bring out my +17 mace and make the crystal bangle and zachariel bangle and use them til 170s."

Do you ever buy white bracelets just for the magic defense? What about body equipment? Welfare quest items all the way until you can use your 170/220 sets?
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mfw i DMA a Cata and he runs back into his team and the splash damage kills an unlucky person
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>>149982353
70-100
>>
why dont some people not take damage in tbl?
>>
What level blue gems should I put in my Valia?
>>
>>150030847
5 at the minimum
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>>150030847
>valia
>good
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>>150030484
Early on, buy Cafrisun set from the Market Board, and buy Sacrament and Blessing from Canelle in Orsha Ch 1. They're a /tosg/ player and also probably the cheapest buffs you'll ever find (no profit I think.)

The Sacrament and Cafrisun interaction with Blessing means your auto attacks will do way more than your skills. It's boring but it's by far the fastest way to level. No other gear early on matters, but at 75 you can equip Arde dagger so if you get one great. Do not stop leveling and spam 90s forever trying to get one, it isn't that big of a deal.

I don't personally gear up a character at all between cafrisun and endgame or temporary-endgame options (like wizard bracelet) but it's up to you. Attributes for +% damage on your main skills are often stronger than gear.
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>>150030810
Le balanced ring around the rosie
le balanced free life + respawn
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>>150030847
No less than five.
No greater than six (it would be a waste).
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>>150030810
statue of ausrine diev3
revive priest2
mackangdal bokor2
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>>150031323
Mackangdal + R7F + Safety Wall = 2OP
Nerf when?
>>
>>150031091
Best mace until 170, and even longer for priests/chaplains. How is that not good?
>>
Make a new fucking thread already you retarded cockroaches

Stupid shits
>>
>>150031754
Some knock backs go through Safety Wall, like Shield Charge.
Mack is fine as long as you don't let them Safety Wall.
R7F can be removed with a basic attack.
Ausrine is broken as fuck.
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>>150031909
Why are you so frustrated, ugly kid?
>>
>>150031909
>someone makes a new thread at exactly 750 last thread
>gets bitched at for making the thread too early
>nobody makes the thread until almost 800
>bitching again
/tosg/ is impossible to please.
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>>150032191
>wanting to please retarded teenagers who play this shit tier MMO

Wow dude.
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>>150032191
>weh weh why are people being mean to me on an anonymous image board :'(((

Kill yourself.
>>
YOU KNOW WHAT TBL NEEDS

MORE 30 SECOND AOE DAMAGE DEALING STUNS THAT TAKE UP A QUARTER OF THE ARENA
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>>150032357
How about an Aoe Broadhead arrow?
>>
>>150032353
>reading comprehension
>>
>>150032353
Anonymity is not supposed to provide you a chance to be an edgy rude kid on 4chan.
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>>150031754
It's a worse version of ausrine
>>
new bread?
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>>150030223
maga rod doesn't apply, glass bracelets don't apply
sage shield mdef does apply
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>>150032523
But unlike austrine it can be used in clutch situations.
>>
Played at launch. Went with Wiz3 (boring af) and tried Arch->QS 1, quitted when my friend quitted.
I want to restart, some fun class \ build and why?
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new >>150032735
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>>150030484
i transfer a cafrisun and buy them buffs, then i use the arde with cafrisun til 120. i have decent gear for some at that level.
i have a +13 superior mace, but it makes no real difference even on clerics at the start.
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>>150032871
after playing with a few i really want to make a wiz3>link2>necro2 the link2 part seems like suffering though
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>>150032871
I'm having a lot of fun with Arch2Sap2Wugu2. Not sure if I should aim for Mergen or just do cannoneer yet.
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>>150034457
It's actually not.
Once you get Linker 1 you REALLY start blowing shit up with magic missile
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