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Daisy Edition

http://store.steampowered.com/app/273350/
http://evolve.wikia.com/wiki/Evolve_Wiki

>What is Evolve?
Evolve uses an asymmetrical structure where five players, four playing as hunters and one as the monster, battle against each other in an industrialized alien planet called Shear.
Stage 2 is the transition to Free To Play + a lot of gameplay changes.

>What's new?
http://www.evolveupdates.com/stage2/

>I heard the game was dead?
It was, ~200 players on Steam and little to no updates from the developers. If F2P can bring it back is unknown, but as of right now 18k people are playing it.

>Should I "get" it?
It's free. 18GB. Download and test it out.

>F2P Model?
Every week, four hunters (one of each class) and one monster will be in the free rotation. There are currently 24 Hunters and 7 Monsters in total. By playing the character tutorials, you unlock one hunter (Markov) and one monster (Goliath) to keep forever.

Additional monsters, hunters, perks, and skins are unlocked by earning silver keys. Silver keys are earned by playing the game, leveling up, or getting login bonuses. Currently you can't actually buy silver keys, presumably so they can test the unlock rate, but that's coming later.

There is also a monthly login bonus punch card. You get one punch for each day you log in. Beyond silver keys, this can directly award new Hunters and Skins.

>What if I don't want to grind for characters and perks?
You can buy the game and it to gives your account full founder benefits, which gives you 30k keys and most characters.

>Microtransation?
None as of yet.

>Steam group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/evolvevg

>Perk info(Inc. how to unlock them)
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=721252371

>Patch info:
http://steamcommunity.com/games/273350/announcements/detail/609494389803921586

Canon Stories:
https://talk.turtlerockstudios.com/t/evolve-hunter-stories-canon-latest-story-kalas-story/25399

Old shit
>>149691509
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First for wraith best and cutest girl
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>>149803589
what is this supposed to show happening? the gameplay of this game looks awful
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>there are Markov player itt right now who never used mines
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>>149803589
Literally what the fuck am i looking at
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Fifth for wraith hips are a gift from god
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What's on the list for this week's collection of TRS mistakes?
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>>149805141
removing the option to manually kill yourself
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>>149806617
>literally impossible to kys
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>>149805141
More hunter nerfs.
More monster buffs.

What other mistakes could they possibly make?
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>>149805141
Kraken is now immune to stasis in flight.
Meteor goliath flames now burn fuel.
Fixed a bug where you could damage bob without hitting the guts.

Weakpoint markers removed from the game.


Fixed a bug where torvald mortars sometimes didn't hit the ceiling in caves.

Reduced Kala's armor reducer capacity.

Plasma lance range reduced.
Markov's lightning gun range increased.

Abe tracker duration reduced.
Poison/Tranq dart duration reduced.

Reduced sound spikes range.
Buffed griffin smg to compensate, he doesn't deal enough damage.

Fixed a bug where daisy's AI occasionally went towards the monster or downed teamate.

Fixed a bug where downed players could be revived by lazarus without being teleported to dropship by game.

Poison rounds perks buffed.
Health regen perked buff. Delay before regen increased by 2 seconds to compensate.

I'unno.
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>>149806803
>Fixed a bug where downed players could be revived by lazarus without being teleported to dropship by game.
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>>149806962
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>>149806803
half of those aren't true, but the funny thing is the things are the most insane are the real ones.
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>>149803741
>>149804862
>>149806945
Fucking scalies. How could anyone get off to the idea of removing a wraith's armor and licking her massive body all over, nibbling her neck and kissing her long tentacles? Only another monster would think about her cute mouth and tongue wrapped around a thick cock slick with her saliva, pumping in and out of her mouth until it erupts, the cum more than enough for her to reach stage 3.
The idea of thick viscous semen overflowing, dribbling down her jaw over her busty chest, her big claws scooping it all up and watching her suck it off is just horrible. You're all a bunch of sick perverts, thinking of spreading her smooth veiny thighs, cock poised at the entrance to her pure, tight, virginal pussy, and thrusting in deep as a whimper escapes her teeth which are slippery with cum, while her large body shudders from having her cherry taken in one quick stroke.
It is truly nasty how you'd run your hands all over her body while you violate her, feeling her breast ridges hardening against your tongue as you lick her chest and her neck, savoring the scent of her skin and sweat while she trembles from the stimulation and as she reaches her climax, hearing her cry out softly as she has her first orgasm while that cock is buried deep inside her, pulsing violently as an intense amount of hot cum spurts forth and floods through her freshly-deflowered pussy for the first time, filling her womb only to spill out of her with a sickening squelch. And as you lie atop her flushed body, she sighs breathlessly and her claws dig into your back as she feels your cock hardening inside her again.
You're all sick in the head.
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Next patch we should play a game where we type out the real patch notes, but we add shit and have people in the thread try to guess whats real and what isn't. That's how retarded TRS is with balancing.
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>monster is 4th on preferences
>get monster anyway
>close game where i kill them at stage 3 at the relay
>the second i kill the stupid daisy (last "hunter" alive) and win they all d/c
>"connection error (12)"
>as far as i know i got no keys

:--)
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>>149808298
>slim heals reduced by 50 each
>slim spore grenade radius reduced to 2
>slim drone heal reduced to 10
>slim shotgun no longer does damage
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>>149807540
>her mouth
>the thing with spikes on it and makes her look like a disgusting worm maggot weevil
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>>149809256
>monster least prefered
>got monster 4 times in a row today
fucking bullshit
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>>149809264
finally. he was way to viable
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>pub
>Prefers Assault
>Monster least preferred
>Gets Monster
>in the same room with
>Prefers Monster
>Assault least preferred
>Gets Assault

And no it wasn't a premade, I asked the guy.
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>>149809594
now 3 matches in a row have failed to form

anybody else getting this feel
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>>149809941
>Queue as Prefers Medic
>Get placed into a lobby with 3 other people as prefers Medic
>Back out
>Change to Prefers Tracker
>This time I get placed into a lobby with 2 people with prefers tracker

I don't understand.
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>>149811347
>>149809941
>Queue as prefer medic
>3 guys have prefer support
>I get support somehow

I don't even know anymore
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Is Jack the biggest troll? Holy shit that force glove.

btw whats up with hunter who play the time game? they dome you and avoid to attack. they even taunt you in chat that time is ticking.
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>putting down bantz in all chat
>monster stays silent

cunt
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Namecuntfag left?
We /comfy/ again?
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>>149811347
>>149811707
You think you guys are getting cucked

>Queue and prefer trapper
>2 assualt prefs, 2 no preference
>No preference guys get assault and trapper.
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So what's better for Wraith, striaght Grounder perks or max CDR?

Supernova gets you a few taps on random hunters that you aren't even swinging at and that's free damage and they're debuffed if you need to switch targets, but that CDR is ridiculous so I don't know what to do
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>people leave after game starts
>or they select a shit character like Laz and leave
ffs I hate it so much. why there is no punishment for being shitters?
>leave a game in WoT you dont like? warning!
>do it more times? fuck you, 24h bann
damn russians dont fuck around and dont care about your feelings. what did TRS do? "watch out for your win streaks silly guuuys! (please dint let us die we need you)"
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>>149812761
How is your situation worse when nobody else had my preference and i get the other 3 guys preference
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>>149813417
>situation worse
We're just venting about match making, this isn't a blog and I'm not asking for government aid.
And atleast you're 3 guys wanted something, 2 guys on the I don't give a fuck preference taking roles shows that match making needs a fix fast.
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>>149812290
Eat my fucking ass nigga
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>>149813681
but your ass is dirty and full of shit
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>>149813664
That faggot ain't me.
>>149813417
Fuck you its worst because it happened to me.
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>>149813862
remove this
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Torvald is pretty good when the monster is fucking retarded
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>>149815829
everything is good when the monster is retarded
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Does the game's matchmaking really just not even try to consider people's role preferences? I haven't had a game all day where the preferences weren't stacked.
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>>149814612
make me
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>>149815829
normal Goliath is also pretty good when some hunters disconnects
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>monster is haste speced doing some tryhard hit and run shit
>losing 2000 hp every time he comes to fight, due to our crow chargeshotting him
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>>149816293
the fuck is your Crow on crack?
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>>149816293
>2000 HP
>1 shot is 100 at best
I'm sorry he manages to lay down 20 shots within dome time?

No way I belive inthis shit nigga feel free to prove me with recording
otherwise fuck off
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love wraith
marry wraith
breed wraith
snuggle wraith
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>>149818820
That's cute. Any more alien waifus?
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>>149818930
Afraid not, wraith is love wraith is life
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>>149818820
Doesn't wraith always run around the dome though ? Maybe she just doesn't like you.
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>>149817542
It's 200 if you're not garbage
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>>149819019
that's called being shy, and shot at
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>>149819114
Sure, feel free to prove it.

I saw some of the best tournament/ESL matches and the best Crow players is nowhere as close to this amount per dome.

But surely you are not full of shit faggot

C'mon, prove it.
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>>149819806
lmao cant believe this game has a competitive scene
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>>149819997
It really doesn't, at least it isn't a professional competitive scene, It's extremely amateur at best.
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>>149819997
It had, in 2015
but it is dead now

And not professional per se as in CSGO-alike but had some decent players

Either way lying on anonymous imageboard is the lowest of the low
what a pathetic sad cunt
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meteor Goliath is based.

what perks to buy for him?
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>>149821389
All grounder
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>>149821389
the braindead retarded trias: CDR, DR, Grounder
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>>149819806
'the best crow players' in this game would be silver in CSGO or rank ~65 in overwatch
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oh.
okay that explains alot.

Never pick decoy for Wraith. The ability is fun and cool but its not worth. Just go 3 on everything else and burst people beyond belief.
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I want to start playing Goliath. What perks should I be running to make it bearable?
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>>149824737
why not? it does dmg and confuses puppers. I cant beat good premades anyway, may as well fool around with noobs
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>they nerfed reload perks
>they're gonna nerf capacity perks next week
>and damage perks after that
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>>149825865
thats good. the top 1% hunters still win over half their games against monster. they need a small nerf so its closer to 50:50
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>>149823545
>comparing baby soloQ games to competitive play

I don't know if this is bait, or you're just very, VERY retarded.
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>mfw I played Jack against a Kraken

I think I learned my lesson.
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How do you join the "competitive" scene in Evolve? Where do you find these good players?
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>>149826878
Please tell me you actually used the repulsor and won the game.
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>>149827180
step1
play alone until you git guit

step2
play vs good people so good they notice you and add you to their friendslist
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>>149827340
I don't even see how you can even use it on Krakken if he is high above the air unless you use all of your boost to get up to him which then he just blasts you away.
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>>149827652
It's literally the hard counter to kraken flying.
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>>149827340

I only used it to lock him on the ground. I couldn't do anything else.
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>>149828625
>>149827340
No it is not

Repulsor is totally useless against Kraken

Feel free to prove me otherwise by showing video where it is as useful as against Goliath/Behemoth/Waith

Single one
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>>149818820
Praise the Wraith
CARESS THE WRAITH
FUCK THE WRAITH
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>>149828826
It pushes kraken out of the air almost instantly and pins it to the ground. You are a terrible jack for not knowing this.
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>>149829546
Any good Kraken player would push you away before that happens.
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>>149809446
>wraith
>disgusting
how
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>>149829713
And any good hunter will pop/dodge whatever kraken uses to push. That is a nonargument, anon.
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>>149829546
Sure, where is your proof besides lies on anonymous image board in the thread that will be deleted in few hours?

Oh right
none
because you don't have anything to show off but bragging
Double funny since you don't even namefag for that

This is just sad
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>>149830378
He has no taste, don't worry anon
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>>149829546

Repulsor doesn't push though. It prevents monsters from moving sure but it doesn't push them back. Only way for repulsor to work on Kraken is for the Kraken to already be near the ground.
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From the wiki:
>Jack has a special passive unique to his character - firing, reloading, and using ironsights does not cause him to slow down.


Is this true? Because when I play Jack it seems that firing his laser pistols definitely slow him down.
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>>149830506
Love ya too, anon.
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>>149831252
You know you guys can test this in custom games, right. Just did. It actually does work on the kraken.
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>>149831538
>Is this true? Because when I play Jack it seems that firing his laser pistols definitely slow him down.
Wiki is outdated
He has all the slowdonws
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>>149827180
Hey, the scene is pretty small at the moment, it used to be bigger. Right now there's like 4 to 6 teams, i'd say only 2 are highly competitive. You can find me in the steam EVOG chat if you want me to hook you up with people.
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>>149833358
WHICH GROUP
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>Disconnected because "Context Corruption"
What the fuck does that even mean
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When you select "no preference" apparently it gives you 20 extra keys? I tried this out and of course got monster 3 times in a row, and I did the math on my last game and it didn't seem like I got any bonus at all.
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how are the new monster perks?
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>>149835119
Soul-crushing to face. Unlimited fun to use.
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>>149835231
That's good?
I'm surprised maybe I'll spend some shekles and see if I can have some fun, do you need to stack them all together?
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>>149835395
Of course.
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>>149835440
Thanks anon.
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>Join match
>No preference cause I don't want to take anyones role
>Get monster
>Everyone but the support leaves for some reason
>Pick goliath since that's an easy monster for them
>Wants me to fight at spawn because he has no team
>"Alright"
>Fight at spawn stage 1, get fucked hard
>Figure I should at least try to win
>Get to stage 3
>still lose
>Guy insults me in chat afterwords because I lost

Last time I try to be a good person.
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>>149831538
>>149832520
But shit that's such a fun passive. All characters should have that. Why'd they remove it?
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>>149836753
Probably was too OP or something
I mean, you've seen the most retarded decision TSR makes so why bother asking
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How can a dev like Turtle Rock create a great, critically acclaimed game like L4D and then make Evolve? Was it Valve's touch? 2k's?
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>>149833908

It's in the OP, steam group /evog/.
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>>149837264
A little bit of both
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The fact that they just gigafucked Hunters over in one patch in combination with Meteor Goliath running even more rampants just makes me feel like the game deserves to die.

I can literally just spam Meteor Goliath and win 50 matches straight right now. It's that easy.

Is this their plan to sustain a playerbase? Or were they trying to get back to that 200 player peak again?
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>almost half of games have someone leaving because they didn't get the role they wanted
>if even one person leaves, almost everyone else will follow
>people who leave because they got monster

tell me there's something in the works to discourage rampant disconnecting
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>>149838428
Leaving the lobby != disconnecting from in-game

People should not be punished for not playing the role they did not choose or acepted

But if you prefer Assault and got medic and accepted it and went in-game and then left - this should be punishable
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>>149804862
>>149806945
>>149807540
>>149818820
>>149818990
Doesn't this raggedy ass bitch of a general have at least ONE drawfag that can do up Wraith in a white wedding dress with ribbons on the ends of her tentacle feet?
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>>149838614
>inb4 that retarded autistic wraithhater with his shitty mspaint

Shit was hilarious. I didn't know it was so easy to rustle someones jimmies on 4chan

May be he had aespegers
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>>149838614
I can try my shitty artfag skills at it
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>>149839032
Godspeed
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>>149838714
>Pot calling the kettle black
Cute.
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>>149839441
oh shit this retard still here
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>>149838521
good point

it's just annoying to get these games in a row where someone will just leave because they didn't get their pick and then the whole lobby empties
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>slim is the worst healer
>slim is the only healer I enjoy playing
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>>149839745
Yeah so they should lower the role preferences to two total so you don't get your LAST FUCKING PREFERENCE HALF THE TIME
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>>149839717
Not even whoever you're talking about, just calling out your fallacy, keep projecting.
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>>149840608
Sure you aren't assblasted autist kek
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>>149839873
>Stage 3 wraith exclusively targets me as Slim
>Just shoot and mash 4
>Outheal his damage
He was probably a shitter but I feel like Slim still has some merit to him
That probably won't work against someone combo heavy like Goliath though
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>Hank/Val/Hyde/Griffin for the 6th game in a row
Uninstalling as I type, what ship are people jumping too?
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>>149840634
If I was this "assblasted" anon why wouldn't I be responding to the wraithpost and not yours? Right, cause I don't give a shit about autistic wraithfags, I do enjoy laughing at people like you though.
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After the damage and range nerf who is better? Markov Original or Crystal coke?
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>>149840876
>he keep going at it
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>>149840771
Get fucked.

If you can't shit on the Hunters right now you're garbage. Monsters are way stronger than pubs atm. WAY stronger. You should shit on them no problem.

Protip : Quit using normal Goliath
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>>149841087
Who said anything about losing? the complete lack of hunter diversity isn't fun for the monster either.
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>>149841047
Going at what?
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>>149841195
Give it a few patches. The hunters will all be equally shit and you'll see some different setups.
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>>149841087
but normal goliath is fun
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>>149841991
Just use Moliath like everyone and stop trying to be a a special snowflake
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>be me
>look at patch notes
>they buffed something that was already overpowered
>mfw
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>>149841195
Imagine if they were good at balancing the game and every hunter wasn't dogshit? You might see people pick something else.

Go tell them on their forums or something because it's honestly boring when I play both sides to the point that I'm about to quit. I just shit on the same teams over and over as Monster because it's broken and Hunter is the same team over and over because they all suck ass and have no choice if they don't want to just lose the first time they dome the Monster.

There's a reason the playbase is fucking bleeding out this bad
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>>149841991
>>149842050
This

Goliath is gutter trash. You have no reason not to use the direct upgrade. It's better in every possible situation. Like, twice as good better.
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>>149842153
they're legit delusional.

monsters don't get punished for mistakes in the slightest it's fucking absurd

im shit at the things and level 40 and i still can't lose
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>guy goes no preference
>gets monster
>leaves

Why even fucking bother with no preference then you dumb piece of shit
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If I see the next patch notes and there aren't in particular massive nerfs to Kraken and Meteor Goliath as well as massive buffs to Torvald and Laz I quit this game forever, they've had enough of a chance with me and my friend group.

Seems like most people already bailed looking at the player count, but we decided to stick it out for a little. It's gotten even worse.

They can either fix this unplayable shit with number tweaks or get off their fat fuck asses and redesign monsters to take some skill, but this is it.
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>>149843567
>redesign monsters to take some skill
What did he mean by this?
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>>149845697
Monsters are easy as fucking shit compared to Hunters, seems pretty obvious.

You can't queue as Monster right now and win without even breaking a sweat?
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>>149845824
I don't know what you mean by easy,
Is it their hit box sizes?
Their skills?
Armour mechanics?
The way the dome works?

Hunters aren't really that hard save a few to be honest. Jack, Maybe headshot crow, Torvald but only because his mortar is shit, so it's artificial difficulty.
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>>149846046
Everything about them is easy, what do you mean?

>Hit Box Sizes(of their skills?) are enough and you can't fuck it up
>Their skills do too much damage and make it easy as shit to down people so you can't fuck up
>Armor mechanics negate any possible punishment they could get for making mistakes, making them easy as shit because you can't fuck up
>The Dome lets you out for free so you can't fuck up

The difficulty of Hunters is how pathetically easy Monsters are. You have to be doing triple the work of the Monster play at all times.

Honestly if you lose more than one match out of every 25 or so as Monster you're hopeless. If you're playing normal Goliath and you lose more often it's understandable because he actually takes effort.
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>>149846690
Then please explain why monsters lose in higher level play more often.
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>>149846690
They're big targets so their skills have big hitboxes, the only way to fix this would be to make the monsters smaller.

It depends they have to do a certain amount of damage to beat powerful healers like val and defensive supports. Nerfing their damage makes defense supports like hank to strong. If you've got an offensive support you are mitigating less damage in exchange for being more offensive.

Armour mechanics are meant to punish hunters from healing up, the Armour channeling means you must engage the monster. and the quick recovery is made to make up the fact they expect the monster to always be caught due to the new tracking system. What mistakes can you make getting caught? its almost impossible to not get caught.

The new dome isn't designed so you can track the monster easier and kill him, its easier to catch the monster so its harder to kill him.
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>>149848124
Because the skill cap for Hunter extends much farther because they're much harder? This is obvious shit.

Monster are easy and have a low skill cap, there's not much room for improvement. There's basic monster play and that's it. Map knowledge and routes etc. are things the Hunters have to learn too so those aren't Monster specific either, and they're honestly more important for the Hunter anyway.

If they can't make Monsters more difficult to play, dedicated Monster players can never reach the same skill level that the Hunters can and new Hunters will still get shit on and quit instantly because the skill curves are that skewed.

>10 seconds in MS paint for your viewing pleasure
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>>149848284
>If you've got an offensive support you are mitigating less damage in exchange for being more offensive.

That's the idea, except in reality what you're actually doing in current Evolve is playing wrong. The Monster is on a time limit and is free from Domes if it takes damage. The game rewards defensive teams and ONLY defensive teams, which is why the only actual way to have a good match has Hunters is with a Val and Hank.

>Armour mechanics are meant to punish hunters from healing up

Bitch what? It has nothing to do with the Hunters healing up. The fuck is that even? It's there to make the Monster easier and more forgiving, there's nothing else to it. There is not a single moment when the Hunters are going to leave the Monster alone. If they're trying to leave it alone, the Monster has some one downed or is about to down people. It rewards the Monster hiding in corners inside the dome. It's a pathetic mechanic. Hunters have no desire to sit on a fucking rock not shooting the Monster in their timed dome. The regen even alleviates the need to actually eat and worry about being domed. I honestly don't even know why eating restores armor anymore seeing as it regens automatically so quickly.

The new dome is perfectly fine, Monsters being goatfuck easy is what's deleting this game's playerbase faster than a 12 year old trying to hide his porn before paw gets back to the computer.
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>>149849419
>. The game rewards defensive teams and ONLY defensive teams.
This is true but doesn't change the fact nerfing monster damage will only make defensive teams stronger.

>It has nothing to do with the Hunters healing up
>It's a pathetic mechanic.
> Hunters have no desire to sit on a fucking rock not shooting the Monster in their timed dome

Right okay lad, if you can't accept that Armour channeling prevents hunters from slapping mines and forcing the monster to fight in an specific part of the dome while they heal up, then kek I'm not going to bother to convince you.

>The Dome lets you out for free so you can't fuck up
so you just complaining for the sake of it?

People are droping the game because it's free 2 play, so they don't have any fiscal investment to play if their having a bad time, evolves only really unique draw atm is playing as a monster and tracking the monster. and one of those mechanics has been gutted. other wise evolve is just a poormans fps.
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>>149850224
>Right okay lad, if you can't accept that Armour channeling prevents hunters from slapping mines and forcing the monster to fight in an specific part of the dome while they heal up, then kek I'm not going to bother to convince you.
>Both sides are going to sit on opposite corners of the dome for 5 minutes

Yeah get real and fuck off.
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>>149850497
>Yeah get real and fuck off.
>Both sides are going to sit on opposite corners of the dome for 5 minutes

You're fucking retarded,
Monsters dictate where fights happen in the dome, Armour channeling is a mechanic to help monsters do this, if hunters don't pursue the monster effectively regains health and can mount attacks unpunished. Hunters who can lay deployables and traps are countered by this, why is that so hard to figure out, of course no one is going to wait 5 minutes you retard, that's why the monster gets free hp, to make the hunters want to keep fighting him or make the monster want to go in for another attack.
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>>149850497
If it means winning the game/gaining an advantage yeah, people do. I'm sorry you're an impatient baby and would rather lose/take a ton of unneeded damage that could cost you the match rather than sit around for five minutes but a lot of people don't really care.

Not even that anon, just saying that is real. Maybe not in pubs but sure as hell in ranked.
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>>149838614
fug man, i wish i was better
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>>149851271

>no ribbons

you had one job anon
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>>149851521
Nigga that's nowhere near done since i wasted like an hour and a half playing momodora
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>>149850905
Unrealistic. Hunters have a planet scanner and a time limit on their dome. The only person with any incentive to hide is the Monster. And to top it off downing hunters or taking damage lets you out sooner as the Monster so you would have no reason to hide if your armor didn't regen. You would need to fight to avoid burning out the match timer to the point that you run out of time.

Shit design, shit devs. The sad thing is that even after two attempts they'll probably come out of this thinking that it was the game's concept and not them being trash developers despite even more repetitive games like Overwatch blowing up and getting huge right in front of their faces. They're clearly the kind of people to fail to connect the dots seeing as they failed to notice a dwindling playerbase directly correlates to less complaints.

Dumbfuckery wasting a good idea at its finest.
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>>149851637
somebody post the player base going down picture
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>winning every match as moliath
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>>149851637
>Unrealistic
No its not and I told you why , you can't refute no points and say that.

>The only person with any incentive to hide is the Monster
No one is talking about hiding and with planet scanner you can't hide, I've told you it so monsters dictate where they fight not the hunters, and if you're going to say monsters don't have an incentive to fight away from, mines, drones, buoys or that hunters don't have an incentive to fight near them you're an idiot.

>you would have no reason to hide if your armor didn't regen.
DEPLOYABLES, holyshit hydes stinkbomb is enough incentive to leave and fight somewhere else, hanks orbital barrage, hell maybe even slims spore gun if they ever fix it. you are literally talking out of your ass.

You can't run out of time in the dome, the game time is paused inside it. Just like its paused in combat.

really it sounds like a wraith memed all over you and your trapper wasn't good enough to catch it.
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>>149851861
also
>>149852029
Yeah it's easy as shit, huh?
>>149852146
Nah, you'll obviously argue this to the game's dying breath and all, but monsters are dogshit easy and it's hemorrhaging the game's playerbase worse than a bullet to the gut.

The regen's got to go and some actual in combat skill has to be implemented. Otherwise, shit's going to keep on its cute little trend like pic related all the way down to sub 1k again, only kept that high because it's free.

Oh by the way
>DEPLOYABLES

Make you move, not hide. They flush you out of hiding, as a matter of fact. You have this shit all backwards anon.

>No one is talking about hiding
I've been talking about hiding the entire time. The monster is the only one incentivized to hide because he gets free HP for doing so. The hunters are going to flush the monster out regardless, all it accomplishes is giving the monster and reason to hide. As previously states the Hunters already have reasons to come after the Monster without Regen. The Monster has no reason to hide without Regen. It's a shit bandaid mechanic made by shit devs.
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When the monster loses two health bars, the dome loses time and most of the time, the monster is free to go (other times the monster has to wait 20 extra seconds or less).

What if the timer only got reduced by downing hunters? That would punish more the people that get caught at stage 1 and suck enough to not down anybody.
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lmao the peaks have gone under 15k for this miserable failure of a game

losing 500-1000 players a day on average at this rate

good job turtleshit.. good job
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>>149852945
They'll think it's a failed concept, I'm telling you. They'll never take responsibility for just fucking it all up.
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>like to play evolve with friends
>my most active friend is a turboshitter in this game
>the others play once in a while
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>>149852945
All these retarded patch notes are literally killing the game

>>149853081
>tfw no one o play with
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>>149852769
>Make you move, not hide. They flush you out of hiding, as a matter of fact. You have this shit all backwards anon.

How are you going to flush anyone out with, a buoy, a drone or a mine. or Maggie traps.
You haven't just got this shit backwards, you haven't got any of it at all.

I don't get what so hard to understand about the monster fleeing so it avoids fighting next to sunnys drone or emets buoys or markovs mines. you want the monster to move and stay in sight or something?
The hunters have guns anon not swords. Markov can still fuck you while standing in his mines.

You keep saying the monster has not reason to want to fight in another location in the dome but I've given you facts why that isn't true. instead you move the goal posts calling the monster a coward for not fighting next to your traps, or mines, or next to your cliffs. instead of any tactical reason, he's "hiding". did some undead rogue gank the shit out of you or something?
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>>149853329
Ah well I'm going to bed and you're full and shit and the reason the game's going to die.

Go play Hunter if you're a Monster only player, I play mostly Hunter and over 50 or so monster matches I legitimately have 100% win rate. Shit's pathetically easy, especially if you pick MGoliath.

I barely play the things and they're just free wins. If I went against some competitive team, I'd probably get bodied, but that's the problem with their game like I already said in my other posts.

Mostly that one
>>149848826

Night, loverboy.
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>>149853847
Good night anon, The reason the games going to die is because it was a bad idea from the start.
People expect evolve to be a fully developed game but really it's a shit show with a bad reputation so all the hypes died down.
Do i think wraith should be able meme all over the dome no but if the alternative is walking into 3 of markovs mines, and having to kill that drone fuck it.
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>>149853081
just the steam group
not as much people played as they used to but theres two people in there right now playing
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>people defending the game saying it's a beta

how
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>>149854261
*join

but yeah, if you need friends, steam group
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>>149852945
>>149853052
>>149853107
Knowing how insane they are, they will actually claim they did a perfect job, because all of the complaints have stopped.
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>>149854321
>change maps, change gameplay, change UI, change a lot of things
>somehow the game doesn't go back to a testing phase
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>play pub hunter vs gorgon
>get raped and abused
>play gorgon against pub hunters, play him like a goliath
>it's so easy is not even fun
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anons how did you do on your placement games in ranked and what did you get, I did 9 of them and won 4.
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>>149836098
Almost happened to me once before the damage res update, only I was Parnell and the monster was kraken.


Medic leaves, so we get a bot lazarus. Trapper sees this in the lobby, goes "nope", and disconnect. Cue /all "Woooo bots".

We airdrop, and we see an armored kraken fly out way. So we engage, and the support promptly gets downed and disconnect.
Surprisingly, lazarus gets him up when he (letting me, maybe) follows me away from the corpse. He's taking damage because rockets can hit kraken and I shoot mines, fucks off after losing half his health.

He was real sloppy about his feeding route since it was only me chasing, but since he never doubled back I kept doming him when he came out the cave on weather station.

In the end he won with less than a health bar left, on stage 3, with the support still taking a break, when he finally downed me and camped my body. Cue little "wow" in allchat on his part.

Still was funny to see how sloppy he was.
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Just started playing yesterday. I get the impression that playing the monster is slightly easier than playing hunter somehow when I get '5 games as monster' and '5 wins as monster' at the same time. And i've only played Goliath.
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>finally get in a match after 20 mins of people leaving at character select
>everyone seems competent, has a high level and a mic
>think to myself, "this may be an actual good game this team
>get to the dropship cinematic and about to drop off
>immediately instakilled
>monster wins

Wew lad, TRS really isn't doing anything about these hackers, huh?
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>>149859096
They are busy fixing things that aren't broken and seeing the complaints (playerbase) go down
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>>149859096
don't worry anon, this game is VACâ„¢ protected.
All the cheaters are already banned, but they don't know it yet.

>things that will never happen
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So we can all agree the fauna and character design are the only good thing about the game right?
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Is there a reason why hunters have a tendency to just totally fucking ignore chasing the monster, even with a planet scan up telling them where it is? Are they just retards ruining the game for the rest of the team or do they have a master plan?
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>>149860834
im a monster main never play hunter
when i am hunter i have no idea what im doing
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Who is the most "fun" character to play? Not talking about effectiveness or viability, just the character that is satisfying to play regardless of winning or losing.
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>>149861250
play armor man of 2 hp bars gone every time you jump into the monster
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how come whenever i play gorgon the hunters always do way too much dmg with their hacks
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Is there a 'best' trapper? Jack feels kind of terrible when the fighting actually starts so i'd like someone who can either do more damage or actually hold the monster down better. I just got enough keys to buy Abe but should I get him or save up for someone else?
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>>149861315

>Monster picks Kraken
>Spend 90% of the game on auto-cannon

Nah.
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>>149862450

M8, Jack is one of the best at actually fighting the monster. Learn to actually use repulsor.
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>>149862450

Griffin or Crow.
Abe's stasis is pretty bad, since it's an area of effect the monster can just traversal away.
Crow's stasis is exactly the same effect, only fired from a gun and applied directly to the monster for a specific amount of time.
Griffin's harpoon is also pretty fantastic, you can yank Krakens out of the sky with it.
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>>149862672
So far all i've fought is wraiths, a few goliaths and a gorgon. Wraiths damn near ignore it, goliaths I can maybe burn a single movement ability before it's on recharge and he just pops a different one instead, and the gorgon just sort of murdered the entire team to death and we were all terrible.
So yeah most of my time as Jack is spent going 'jesus christ team catch up to me' when i'm hunting the monster, then being murdered by the monster because i'm the trapper and my repulsor doesn't seem to stop more than one ability tops before i'm being eaten.
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>>149861315
>man
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>>149862875

The two most powerful abilities of wraith are cockblocked by a good Jack m8.
They even have a small windup time.
Remember that you can aim to the left or right of the monster to block different directions and not just the side you're standing on.
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>>149863015
Next time i'm monster i'll try playing Wraith, then. Playing as Goliath, i've not had any issues against Jacks. I'll see how Wraiths fare so I can get a better idea of how to fuck them up as him. In meantime, I think i'll save my keys for Crow. He seems cool and that stasis rifle seems like a great 'ha ha no escape' tool for when domes go down.
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>medic seems to have infinite jetpack even through grounder perks
>hp burst heals to full once
>ok
>kill him again
>xd bursts to full again
>happens a 3rd time
>just stand still and afk cus hes hacking
why
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>>149861250

Laz is actually really fun and satisfying when you get his abilities off. Too bad hes dog shit.
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why do assaults never fucking die then insta kill me this is pissing me off
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<tfw Can't juke but still forced to play Medic in order to avoid having Laz on my team.

I want to die.
Help me.
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>>149867118

just take advantage of Laz free week and play monster. You win literally every game.
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>>149863015
>Remember that you can aim to the left or right of the monster to block different directions and not just the side you're standing on.
Thanks nigger, information like this should be more openly available
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>20mins to find a lobby that people stay in
ranked monster is the only way to play this game right now
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>>149867474
You've got 90degrees of repulsor flexibility in every direction to block the monster.
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Is there any better perk than the Rocket <X> set? It honestly feels like nothing is really more important than jetpacking in fights.
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>>149867918

Rocket perks are a crutch really. You have more than enough with the default jetpacks to evade in battle. You shouldn't rely on those perks when characters have better utility/damage potential with other perks.
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>>149867918

Rocket set is the best all round set. If you're playing a specific comp other perks outshine them, but with pubs you never know what you're going to get, so that makes the safe bet that is the rocket set look that much better.
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>>149867918
depends on your team comp really. For example if I'm running Slim or Laz with a hank, I run 3 tiers of health regen since it allows you to negate their strongest weakness's. If I'm running Laz without a hank I run reload speed for glove and cloak.

I alwasy run Damage > Capacity > Capacity as regular markov, and I run Swap Capacity Capacity on torvald/parnell.
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>>149868125

They're a crutch, but in pub games where you're getting matched with kalas, lazs and torvalds, you need a fucking wheelchair.
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>>149868334

Actually, on second thought, they're actually pretty good for pubs since tanking as an assault for the medic or support seems to be a lost art.
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>>149868283

>He actually plays Slim, Laz and Torbad
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>>149868283
those perk ideas on those hunters
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>>149868719
torvald is acceptable after his buffs, slim is a fantastic medic to pair with hank(and only hank) since it makes the "focus the support" strat extremely punishing, and Lazarus is fucking shit but I'm at 39 and need 1/100th of a bar to hit him at 40 so I never have to play him again.

All of em need way more buffs, but torvald isn't the worst assault anymore and slim is acceptable in extremely niche team comps against very specific monsters.

Laz a shit though.
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>>149868994
Torvald is better now than last patch but how is he still not the worst assault? who is worse?
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When do you get rewards, is there a easy way to trigger it or best way to farm?
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>>149869278
Parnell due to the nerf to his shotgun. Torvalds shotgun has a tighter spread and faster firerate in exchange for slightly reduced capacity and 10% less damage, Plus with the way current dome mechanics are, parnell isn't good inside of domes but is great on the chase due to rockets being good chip damage, whereas torvald is better in the dome simply because his form of burst comes out faster and can be used during the final moments of a dome to secure a metric ton of health damage whereas parnell can't do it as reliably since the monster jumps away the moment the dome is gone.

More of a preference thing, but in the overall dome fights (which are the most important aspect for assaults currently) Torvald is better than parnell simply due to how his kit functions. Mortars being used at the ending moments of a dome to secure huge health burst, whereas super soldier helps the assault chase at the dome drop to secure more chip damage.
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>>149868994
So you knowingly dragged your team down dozens of games just so you can elite laz? This is why playing hunter is suffering and why they'll never buff useless hunters
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>>149869964
my 4 man pre-made team? Yep. We ran cabot/laz our first 60 games before he decided to elite Kala instead. I can post my winrates and statistics if you're interested.
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>>149870051
Here you go. I mean the statistics clearly show that laz is too strong with such a high winrate and needs to be nerfed further.
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>>149863163
Just played Wraith as I said. No Jack, but jesus christ Wraith is a fucking killing machine. Spent most of the match just using a combo of Supernova and Decoy, then running away inside the dome whilst it kills them. Repeated this until I felt confident enough to just tag team with my decoy and rape everything.
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>>149870289
They need to wipe "the statistics", you could maintain a 100% win rate by simply leaving the game seconds before a lost.
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>>149870562
>Wraith is a fucking killing machine
>Spent most of the match just using a combo of Supernova and Decoy

You were playing baddies anon.
Wraith is good though.
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Do you think the game will survive the recent hacking wave? It's getting pretty bad.
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>>149870832

I'm pretty sure if you leave you get a loss.
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>>149871665
You do now, sometimes. Before the most current patch you didn't.
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>start game
>be support
>medic rval, trapper abe, assault markov
>cool, good picks for once
>pick bucket, because rval + bucket shenanigans is pretty OP
>game start
>early dome
>medic focused
>health dropping low
>it's fine
>he gets juggled into a corner
>it's probably still fine
>he doesn't pop his healing field
>fucks sake, well maybe he just fucked up
>"why y no help me?"
>oh christ
>he's some foreign retard fuck
>tell him "when your hell is low press 4"
>he replies "i press!"
>sigh, whatever
>next dome
>medic focused again
>literally shouting at him over voice coms when his health gets low "PRESS 4 PRESS 4"
>he goes down
>his healing field goes off
>"i tell u i press!"
>fucks sake
>3rd dome
>literally exactly the same fucking thing happens
>again he says "i press!"
>we somehow clutch it out
>monster has half a bar left
>markov on hunter alive
>he pops his shield
>zaps the monster down
>never got a chance to rearm val the entire fucking game
>next game
>it's the same retard
>he gets support
>he picks fucking kala
>nope nope nope dodge the fuck right outta there

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Retards like this should be given a special badge or something, normally they're easy to identify with their shit picks, but every once in a while you get one picking something viable and it is the most infuriating thing ever.
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>>149870051

I wish I had a premade so I could pick retarded garbage.
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>>149872180
they'll be adding timers if you leave a lobby once it has gotten to the character selection screen. It'll probably be 60s, 5m, 10m. 30m depending on how many times you leave. Which is how it used to be in Stage 1.
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As a Wraith, is abduction worth it or is it better to just spend the points on everything else?
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>>149874079
depends on the assault, do not pick it up against a lennox or parnell, it's an alright pick if they have any other assault though.
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it is really fucking awful solo queuing versus my premade
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>>149874976
>it is really fucking awful solo queuing

And that is why the game is dropping players. Other contributing factors are the lack of maps and modes. They really should've waited until they had all the maps done.
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>>149874079

Don't listen to this retard >>149874457
Abduction is fucking amazing, and you NEED it. He's probably a decoy shitter.
Abduction is seriously amazing and gives so much utility and massively improves your ability to control the fight.
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Is there any setting I can alter so that Crow's pet batray outlines stuff in a colour that isn't barely visible? It seems to be outlining stuff in a dark green that I can barely see.
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>>149875853
you can force yourself to be abducted during certain player animations that allow you to continue firing while being abducted.

Take a guess what happens if Parnell jumps in front of your abduction. He activates super soldier while you're grabbing him and unloads an entire magazine point blank in your face while you're dragging him back since wraiths head is literally filling the screen when you're being abducted. There goes your ENTIRE armor bar (100% > 0% armor with minor health chip damage) if he's running capacity. Now you have a drugged up parnell in your face and you have no armor.

Lennox can THUNDERSTRIKE into the Abduction which is one of the animations that allows her to continue PUNCHING you while you abduct her. and I'm sure you understand how painful eating a thunderstrike + 3 lennox punches are.

I mean if you want to bait out the super soldier or thunderstrike before abduction by all means, but you accidentally grab one when it's off cooldown and you're going to have a really bad time.
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>medic says in /all that he is throwing
>multiple times
>monster constantly runs away from the people not attacking him
>even at level 3
>gets the relay down to 1 hit and then just walks around failing to kill bots

WHY ARE PEOPLE SO CANCEROUS
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its impossible to win if the enemy team is using voice chat
hunters are so busted the healing and shields make everyone never fucking die
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>>149877806
learn to separate and focus, tard
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>>149877806
>its impossible to win if the enemy team is using voice chat
this is true
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>>149877806
>>149878082
except 99% of the time the hunters are retarded pubs that you can kill at stage 1
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>>149878353
no 99% of the time the assault can 1v1 me
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>>149878525
Jesus you must be bad.
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im 1 game away from quitting and never looking back because im sick of pre mades shitting all over me.
>>149878592
no, hunters are broken
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>>149878525
Are you literally retarded? Are you missing 99% of your brain?
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>>149878353
if were pulling percentages out of our ass I'd say it's closer to 30% in quick play and 80% in ranked play.
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This game's entire patch history is
>hunters whine, monsters get nerfed to death causing the game to die a slow and quiet death as all the monsters leave

It's what happened the first time and now they're doing it again. It was just a long trend of "nerf this monster, nerf that one, dome is UP, I can't find the monster wahh" until it was reduced to nothing more than a 4v1 arena game where the monster is forced to fight or flee almost 100% of the time, and they're STILL nerfing the monsters.

Whiny hunter randos killed this game.
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>>149878629
Do you meet these premades at ranked? What's your rank? Because the good hunter teams I meet are 1 every 50
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>suck with monster
>wonder why everyone else is doing so gut but me
>fuck it lets waste some keys on CDR perks.jpg and .png
>win every game just by pressing attacks as soon they are available
thats the whole trick? gj TRS
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I'm finding it weird hearing everyone complain that monsters are too weak or hunters are too weak. I've just taken a break from an 11 win streak as both hunters and monsters and honestly the only losses so far are when my team as hunters are especially retarded, like 'wrong side of the map consistently' retarded.
As monster I just flee, use sneaking to double back, etc., then focus people down in the dome and punish the other hunters every time they try to rez. Repeat until i'm strong enough to just finish them.
As hunter it's just a matter of constantly hounding the monster so it never has a chance to get shit done so that even if it reaches Stage 3 it's so harassed and whittled down that we can finish it quick.
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how come hunters can do half my hp in 2 fucking seconds when im half a map away
they say they arent hacking
but what the fuck
some hunters arte just absurdly broken
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>>149878950
>monster mains being this delusional about the balance of the game
I literally smash pub hunters as stage 1 because it's so easy. You literally need to have brain damage to lose with monster vs pubs.
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>>149879504
pubs vs pre made teams
i never win vs pre mades
pubs of course you win, its retards
i win vs pub retard monsters with retard pubs
hunters are just broken as fuck u dumb ass nigger kys
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>>149879293
its hard to balance hunters because two factions argue from different points of view
one side tells you hunters are OP because when they work perfectly together no monster can beat them.
the other side tells you that one or two shit pub hunters are a given factor in most matches that should be considered
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>finally realize the power of blitz mines
>placing a cluster and telling the medic to stand on it
>9k damage by the end of the match

I was so fucking blind but now I see.
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>>149879754
its impossible to balance pubbers and premades are literally playing two different games.
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>>149879504
It's not me losing that they find to be a problem. It's me winning, so they whine and say baww this goliath just pushed my shit in really hard (because we're a random bunch of retards) nerf monsters pls.

Play against an actually competent 4 man hunter premade team who communicate (the way the game is actually meant to be balanced around) as the monster and you simply can't win, the game is horribly balanced in favor of hunters in these cases. Instead they're making balance changes based off random hunters whining incessantly.
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>>149880274
im gonna quit if i dont have a chance to beat hunters if they arent bad
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New post from TRS. No specifics really but here are the key points
>working on new maps/modes
>They know that laz is shit. Basically threw him to the wolves "for the greater good". Later on mentioned that (he) won't be permanently shit
>grounder perks are too strong currently, they're getting nerfed (specifically mentioned superior as getting looked at the most)

I shit you not they use emotes for this section, no specifics, just pointing up or down if they get buffed or nerfed

HUNTERS
Solo benefits: buff
Premade: Massive nerfs(only 3 fingers on the list)
Assault defense matrix: Yet another nerf (fucking why)
Hyde:nerf
Torvald: Big buffs
Slim: Big buffs
Emet: buff
Hank: Nerf

MONSTERS
E/Kraken: Nerf
OGoliath: Big buff
Wraith: Big buff

PERKS
Grounder major/superior: Nerf
Venom:nerf (not sure if this applies to hunter poison, monster poison, or both)

>From now on, I will be battling poor bedside manner with dank memes.
Kill me

>Link
https://talk.turtlerockstudios.com/t/development-feedback-balance-bros-and-brandon/95554

If it wasn't for the manner they did this I'd say overall it isn't too bad. Not sure about the hyde/defense matrix nerf but the other stuff I can largely agree with.
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>>149880852
Oh yeah, this is not a list of things for the next patch notes, but "how we see things trending in the next couple patches."
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>>149880325
That's not what I'm saying though. I know that's how it's always been, an excellent hunter team should be able to get a monster down fairly easily and it's been that way literally since launch.

I'm saying there were excellent teams playing the game before stage 2. I would occasionally find those teams that were seemingly unbeatable and there was a clear, obvious difference between those players and hopeless randos. Those players obviously had the patience and dedication to actually get good at the game while random hunters didn't and so now, like I said, we're playing a 4v1 arena game focused entirely around head to head combat instead of an actually interesting asymmetrical game of cat and mouse.

Hunter randoms are pure fucking cancer and should stop playing this game immediately.
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>>149880852
>nerfing hyde
>nerfing what is probably the most balanced assault
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>>149875941
Bampu this question. Seriously I throw out Gobi but then I cannot see a fucking thing of what it outlines unless I squint so hard my eyeballs are crushed into a fine paste. Can I somehow adjust this so that the outlines are more visible?
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>>149881814
They nerfed laz, LAZ for god sake the WORST hunter in the game.
Yet you think your balanced assault will be safe?
AHAHA
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>>149880852
>fucking why
Because of how it interacts with Shields and sustained heals like Val.

Also why the fuck do they refuse to buff Kala?
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>>149880852
>Hyde nerf
>Hank nerf
>Defense Matrix nerf
Why fix what isn't broken? S T O P nerfing things for the 1% of people in high level play.

Unrelated: how can there be a competitive scene in a 4v1 game? How does that work?
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>>149882719
It doesn't work, that's why they're fixing it with all these nerfs.
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>>149880001
Literally any monster that aren't wraith will ignore your mines.
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>>149880852
Might be a decent patch BUT why would they nerf assault's matrix or Hyde? They better not nerf Hank to shit, he's the best support left after all the retarded nerfs.
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>>149880852
>Nerfing premades

I wonder how brutal this is going to be. Might make my group stop playing all together.
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would it be worth it to stack all the acidic rounds type mods on Hyde?
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>>149880852
>nerfing hyde
That's retarded.
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>>149885048
you wont be able to communicate directly with voicechat. instead you will be connected to Pajeet in India who trys to coordinate you and translates to the team what the single player is saying
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>>149880852
They forgot
>player base 10 fingers down
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>>149885048
You wouldn't have lasted 10 seconds before stage 2 you utter shitters.
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>>149885048
same here, we were already getting pretty tired with all the bullshit, now the balance changes are getting clownish lol
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>>149885279
Both poison stacking and damage stacking are good. As long as you have either of them you'll do fine.
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>>149885716
>game punishes you for playing with your friends
>God ur such a shitter XDDD

Kill yourself desu senpai
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>>149886223
I'm telling you that there are pre-stage 2 teams that would laugh at how shit you are. You're complaining despite having a fuckload of advantages they never had, yet they could still win consistently before stage 2.

You are suffering from new shitter syndrome, where you think you're good based on the game's latest iteration of balance.

The game is massively in favor of premades and it always was, stop complaining and get better at the game faggot.
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>>149886496
the sad part about this is you're right and the game is not even that complicated. brain power of kids these days is very low
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>>149886223
You are supposed to play monster.
Hunters are there only to get bullied by the monsters.
Unless you go full autism, get a 4 man premade and have good coordination through out the game, then you can turn the tables, but that is getting nerfed soon.
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>>149887368
Another bad stage 2 newshitter who can't comprehend how pre-stage 2 hunters ever won games at all.
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>>149887496
> LE SHITTER XD AHAHA
Fuck off mate. I play monster and it's so easy to win games it's a crime.
Mean while some autist monsters complain that out of the 95% of shitters they face that can be stomped at stage 1, they find it unfair that really good teams win vs them.
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>>149887676
>LE SHITTER XD AHAHA
return to reddit
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>>149887676
>REALLY GOOD
you mean random normies who casually play with their skyped friends?
kek
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>>149887368
>playing monster
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>>149887676
Backwards. I'm fine with the really good teams, I can tell when I'm playing against a good team because they play almost exactly like the good teams from before stage 2, but now they're ever so slightly more effective.

All the balance changes did is make the game 10x easier for bad hunters, that's just the fucking bottom line right there. Good players just don't need most of the new shit hunters get, but the bad hunters do because otherwise they get fucking completely annihilated. That's what they deserve for not being as good as the veteran hunters but no, they'd rather call for monster nerfs.
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>>149886496
The whole point of my post was wondering how bad the nerfs to premades would end up being. What's the point of playing a 4 man premade with my friends if we need to try our absolute hardest to stand a chance? Meanwhile, the monster is running around pressing anything and everything that is off cooldown and winning without so much as an afterthought.

I'm curious, what do you think would be suitable nerfs to premades?
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>it is the 'hunting Kraken with Lennox and Electro Griffin in team' episode
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>>149888627
nice damage shielded you won right?
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>>149888930
yeah, it took forever tho
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>>149888605
Return to old balance.

No 5 minute dome, no meme scanner, no team shields. I'm telling you right now if you think you're trying hard in stage 2 evolve as hunters you know fucking nothing. Good old hunter teams were made up of 4 gregors.
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>>149888456
oh so you want the game to return to 200 players?
Oh okay then, got it, well don't worry TRS is hard at work at driving everybody off from the game.
Even the fact that it's free wont help it survive this.
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>>149889372
The monster nerfing/hunter buffing trend has been continuing since the game launched and it's still ongoing. In case you didn't notice the game is dying all over again.

Hmmmmmmmmm maybe you don't know what the fuck you're talking about? Yeah I'll go with that.
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>>149889372
Also
>acting as though the change in game design is what attracted new players and not the change in business model

lmao lad top wew
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>>149889626
what are you talking about? monsters got more and better buffs than hunters this or last patch. nice "continuing trend" and dont you dare to bring up Badvald
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>>149889626
>>149889865
Hello TRS, I know you think that you are getting less complaints because people are happy, but the reality is that your player base is leaving because currently the balance is MASSIVELY in favor of monsters in pubs
>b-b--b-ut muh premades
Yeah good luck attracting new players and keeping them in the game when the monster needs to know how to press buttons 1 to 4 while the hunters can't fuck up once during the entire game.
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>>149889989
>hunters buffed up to elder god status with stage 2
>but look here goy armour regen has been buffed see the game is balanced yess my new little hunters are all such good players!

Fuck you; you don't know what on earth you're talking about. I could have dunked on you and your whole team like 50 times in a row pre-stage 2 and then get anally dominated by an actually good hunter team on the 51st match.

The game was very well made before stage 2, hunter randoms just didn't want to actually coordinate with their teams so they got repeatedly shat on and they deserved it completely.
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>Play monster
>"hunter has died" while I am running and eating
>get domed by lone trapper 2 seconds later
>kill him
>evolve while in dome
>his teammates come
monster OP lmao
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>>149890606
> hunter randoms just didn't want to actually coordinate with their teams so they got repeatedly shat on and they deserved it completely.
>said the monster only main that lost his 100 winning streak accidentally to some decent players
oh buuuhuuuu you are right, 99% win rate is too low for monsters
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>play ranked monster
>someone disconnects mid-game
>"thanks fuck i am not playing hunter"
>actually feel more threatened by bots
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>>149892326
Assault Bots are legitimately better than 90% of assault players.
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>>149892080
>accidentally
That's the thing, it wasn't an accident, there were good teams and they stood tall above the rest.

People who could keep me tracked and on the run trying to feed, essentially how the game plays now, but those veteran hunters fucking earned it instead of just spamming a global ability. They worked hard to know the maps as well as they did, they could almost predict my every fucking move and dart me mid air from across the map in the middle of a leap based on an estimate of where I would have ended up in relation to where they last saw me.

Good teams could keep me fucking locked down, starved, and always in direct LOS and they have nothing but my respect seeing as how the game has been made so much easier for hunters yet hunters STILL complain about monster balance. The GOOD old hunter teams were amazing, truly skill to behold and respect. I had absolutely no complaints in terms of balance back then and I'm sure those hunters didn't either. All the old hunters who complained about the game being a walking simulator where they can't find the monster are just straight up bad and you're probably one of them.
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>Support picks Kala
I didn't want to win anyway.
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>>149893224
>That's the thing, it wasn't an accident, there were good teams and they stood tall above the rest.
Isn't that the reason they are nerfing hunters right now?
Because 1% of hunters dominate the mosnters while the rest 99% of pubs get raped by the monster.

If you going to balance for the 1% of the player base, then you can expect to have only that 1% to stick around the game.
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>>149893873
this pretty much
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I remember 2 weeks ago, when M. Goliath was on the free rotation, everyone was complaining that hunters were too strong. What happened that turned the tables?
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i want new hunter rotation and i want it now
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>>149893224
I think I've read a similar garbage "muh stage 1 ESP hunters" post by you before in these threads. Is this dead game pasta?
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>>149894214
Lazarus+Torvald
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>>149894214
really shit balance changes and nerfs
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Is there an official evolve discussion forum? All I find is update posts and such. Where do people rant and complain?
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>>149894530
What are you speaking about? There are no complaints. We took care of that.
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>>149894530
https://talk.turtlerockstudios.com/
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>watching a stream of evolve
>streamer says he wishes there was a stats screen for everyone at the end
>people in chat saying that would make the community "toxic"

When did everyone become such pussies?

I want to see why we lost, and if it's because one or more of my teammates were shit and not doing any damage/healing/slowing why should you care?
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>>149895214
But statistics hurt people's feelings, you thought rapist
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>>149895214
nobody can handle criticism anymore desu not just in games but basically any millenial will take offense to it wherever
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>>149895214
it would be a great improvement.
people who use terms like "toxic" also use "save spaces" and are cancer in human form
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>>149895214
>toxic
There's that word again.
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>>149897748
Toxic Grenades is the weapon Hyde uses
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Do perks that all basically have the same effect (taking all three versions of a perk in a series for instance) stack or do only the strongest versions of any given effect apply?
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>>149897869
They stack
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Any ranked players in the general atm? I'm thinking of playing ranked, how is it and are there any hackers?
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>>149898705
1. it is a pub but slower
2. as often as in the pub
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>>149898705
at least you can actually play in ranked
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>monster least prefered
>constantly get monster for a few days now
>fed up with it
>bought M.Goliath and golden damage resistance perk
>unleash the pent up anger on innocent hunters whenever I get a fucking monster again
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>>149898705
pretty slow and bugged atm. I hope TRS reser ranked once they fix it.
yea hackers still ruin you day, at least it doesnt matter in random hunts
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>>149899818
Fucking broken matchmaking, I swear
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My healing field is ready
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>>149903279
Heal my penis so Ic an fap again
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>>149903564
>he cant fap whenever he wants
hello Hank
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What's better, Rocket Lord or Lithium Battery?
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Why is /evog/ the comfiest general in >>>/vg/
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>>149903564
Repeated use of Lazarus Device may cause limp dick.
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>>149904483
It's dead, it wasn't infected with namefags before, and the wraith-fuckers are quiet.
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>>149904572
who in their right mind would fap with a lazarus revivier?
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>>149905073
daisy
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>>149905073
Lazarus, of course. It really helps getting people up again.
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>Guy picks laz
>Leaves game in dropship
>playing vs gorgon

Gee, I'm having so much fun.
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>>149905909
happens pretty often snd fucks like this should get 24h banns
why cant they pick a good healer at least
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>game still wont launch from several days ago
oh well. I kinda liked this game but it seems like im the only one with this problem so time to uninstall.
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Did they do their little weekly update stream thing?
Anything notable in there or is it just more bullshit
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>>149906109
bot Laz is pretty good tho
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Holy shit /evog/ atleast 60% of my fucking games have been affected by hacking faggots. This one wasn't an instant win either, we just died in the drop ship and had to wait to respawn.

>Fags steam account
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>Kraken getting nerfed
>Mfw they are probably the ones I have the highest win rate against
>No changes for Gorgon, the one I die against all the time
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>>149906932
>because gorgons worse than normal goliath
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Jack is the most unfun and unsatisfying character to play.

Here are reasons why:

1. His Repulsor is too rough and pretty complex to use. Even if you understand perfectly how it works it is still quite a challenge to use it PROPERLY and in the right time. It could use a complete overhaul or rework (even the new version still pretty bad)
2. It is very buggy and unpolished. Sometimes it uses all ammo for no reason, but very often most of the experienced Monsters learned few tricks which moves of the Monster can bug Repulsor out and use all ammo instant. They abuse it a lot which diminishes its role. I only know 1 so far with Goliath
3. Even if you manage to use the Repulsor well it still feels like you did absolutely nothing that contributed to fight. I played Jack a lot for the past few days and in the most cases even if Monster was braindead and I managed to use Repulsor well and as intended it didn't really contribute much. People got strikes and saving someone feels more like "this guy knows how to evade monster so no wonder he plays medic mostly".
Even Abe and Crow contribute more with their weapon and stasis. Sure, it is not a lot but it adds up.


In the end Jack as a hunter the most disappointing character ti pay with zero feedback.

But that's like, my opinion.
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>>149906218
>just waiting instead of actively unfucking your game
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>>149907230
Normal Goliath is balanced as fuck. Those I have died against play well.
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>>149907815
literally how? I already both reinstalled it and checked the file integrity, as well as posted about it on reddit and the official forums several days ago, with no replies.
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who is currently the best trapper?
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>>149908082
i am an Abefag but Crow is really good as well. only ever saw 1 good maggie player
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>>149908082
Griffin. Abe and Crow are not that much worse, though
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>>149908082
Crow/Griffin
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>>149908082
Crow, Griffin and Abe. If you force me to choose I'd say a good crow.
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Is there a hunter tier list updated for this nerf?
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>>149908082
og griffin i guess
i mean, if you need guy who actually triyng to trap things
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>>149908312
>>149908315
>>149908316
electro griffin vs normal?
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>>149908464
ele is shit, good only for guitar riffs
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>>149908464
Electro Griffin is trash. Normal always.
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>>149908703
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my only support class is bucket should i get hank? I'm a decent bucket player
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If the monster isn't retarded, Griffin > Crow > Abe, desu.

You really need to buy that extra time with the harpoons.

I enjoy Abe the most though. Fun guy.
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>>149908293
>>149908312
>>149908315
>>149908316
>>149908452
>>149908843
I bought crow
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>movement speed stacked Abe with Caira boost
damn this game is good
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>>149908082
Crow: Counters cowardly monsters that retreat to regenerate armour, can effectively keep a monster slow constantly.
Abe: Like a second assault, and almost never loses track of the monster
Griffin: Can effectively stop a monster and keep the map under control
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Just played a game with a shitty laz jack and bucket against a good goliath god damn it was awful. hyde is good but he cant just 1v1 the monster with 0 support
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>>149909126
Crow is a gun character and I love hear him talk.
He is a good trapper and punish stage3 monster pretty good for loosing too much health earlier.
I had two or three Crows who won a game vs monster who always run away to regenerate armor
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>Monster picks Behemoth
>He plays like shit and the only time he ever walls some one off it's the assault who just pops their shield

>The match is over and he's screaming into the mic about how it was 48 and 0 with other monsters but Behemoth is just that bad

Meanwhile I'm sitting there realizing this is the kind of player that Evolve is creating, people that think they're hot shit because they're winning with Monsters that have no learning curve at all.

They don't even realize it's just that the monsters are just that easy to win with unless the Hunters are all top tier competitive players. This is why the game's failing.
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Well, I think It's already over, 15~ games in a row with a leaver, occasional hacker, nah.
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>>149909126
Reminder to charge your stasis gun (slowing gun) shots.
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>>149913569
>wraith players

>competitive evolve

>TRS not killing a game
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>>149915226
TRS here
thank you for your feedback, we will take care of this issue after we fixed more important problems like nerfing OP hunters who ruin the fun like Lazarus and Hyde.
stay tuned
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>Prefer Medic so we don't get a Laz
>Support picks Kala
>Get so flustered I accidentally post to the wrong general
Every
Fucking
Time
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>>149917772
What general?
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I want to play Wraith.
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poor thing stuck
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I literally just left a game because of how fucking awfully balanced this game is. You know the map with the circle pit in the middle where the relay station is? A level 2 Gorgon was literally just circling a box up and down the cliff, and there was NOTHING we could do to stop it. The thing wasn't even domed, he was just doing it because it was impossible to kill him. Between him knocking us all back, trapping us in spiders, and pools of acid, not to mention that going up and down constantly meant our jetpacks were running on fumes all the time, it was actually impossible to kill him. The Gorgon is horrifically overpowered when played properly.

Also the single biggest factor in most games is character coinflip. Picked Lennox and the monster is Gorgon, Wraith, or Kraken? You lose.
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>>149919634
you telling me he wasted his own time and won?
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>>149919634
The actual problem is Gorgon has a horrifically low skill ceiling.
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>>149919634
get good
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>>149919634
Gorgon's best range attack is acid. Shoot the spider and he'll never down you if you don't burn your jetpack for what isn't acid. He only won because you kept walking into his attacks instead of just poking him. Also you can't possibly have played the game long if you don't remember wraith trap's name. >>149920426
is right though.
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>>149921078
You can't poke what's on the other side of a piece of terrain.
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>tfw i actually like torvald

h-he's not that bad bros...
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>>149921169
As long as you don't take strikes you win on the clock. Dome when he traversals away, and stop chasing him constantly because all the monsters are faster than you. It's a piece of shit win, but if he doesn't want to engage, let him, he'll lose on the clock.
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>>149921617
The clock wasn't moving, I checked.
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>>149921470
I like torvald but he's way too inconsistent.
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Hank or tech sgt Hank?
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>>149922573
Cabot. Sick damage bro. Hank.
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>>149922573
Sgt. Hank requires to much preparation and patience for pubs.
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>>149922716
I have no idea what you're trying to tell me desu
>>149922768
so should I just get regular Hank? I have just been using bucket and he is even more frustrating with pubs imo than Sgt hank would be
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>>149923592
Probably, but Hank is obviously going to get nerfed, he is ridiculously strong right now.
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>>149907993
it works for me :^)
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>>149923735
>he is the only support that hasn't been nerfed into the ground yet
FTFY. They gave support a team shield and then decided they'd nerf all the shields out of existence just because. Pretty soon cabot and kala will be the only supports left worth playing.
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>playing abe
>bucket just shoots all wildlife in sight
>ask him to stop because of my tracking darts
>he just says "no" in a nasally voice and keeps shooting all wildlife
>tell him to eat a dick at the end after we kill wraith
>"why? what does that mean? im new to the game"

so this....... is the power......................... of free to play................
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>>149923816
yea. it seems like its just a problem with me. oh well. I never really gave a fuck about this game anyways, I just feel bad for my friend who likes it and actually bought founders for it, and I played with them a bit.
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Finally, leveled up Jack to 40

I will NEVER EVER touch him again until he is usable which, taking into account how incompetent devs are, will never happen, kek.
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>>149924461
Mate the game is already a zombie at this point. Why do you hate yourseld like that?
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>>149924265
thats not fair. he is new and you should really show him how to est dicks.
remember: you were new once, too
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too bad the game is dying a little bit more every day.
thats sad because the characters are more likable than the faggots from Overwatch or Battleborn
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>>149924265
>explain to him why he should stop killing wildlife
>he just says "NO" and keeps doing it anyway
>only at the end does he ask why

yeah man totally unfair judgement what was i thinking
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>>149925264
hyde abe caira hank are top banter
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>>149925264
Abe also voices McCree :O
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>>149925423
no wonder. hearing the voice and accent makes you think of the wild west and cowboys
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>>149925417
>[Abe forcing a high pitched voice]
>Oh I don't know what a tire is because we don't have them on earth, because poor people carry us on their backs.
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>>149925264
>the characters are great
>the environments and creatures are great
>the general art direction is fantastic
>the game itself blows chunks
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Anyone have any idea what Renegade Abe is going to do?
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>>149926631
Let's talk about next weeks hunter, quantum caira, instead
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>>149926631
is it confirmed? I thought his variation would be Sexoffender Abe
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>>149926879
Then what will Quantum Caira do.
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Is there a way to check what level all my characters are without waiting till the end of a match?
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>>149927079
She has a fierce rivalry with renegade Abe
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>>149927079
Randomized healing, some kind of poisoning to replace the napalm, accelerator replaced by dodges becoming short rang teleportation.
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>>149927440
Interesting
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>tfw no cute hacker loli in team
>inb4 what is jack
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I just wanted to play Behemoth before this game dies for good
Behemoth when, I refuse to spend 3 bucks on a key
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So I started today, what am I in for?

I have 10k money, don't know what to buy. The default tutorial hunter guy is pretty cool. Goliath is great fun, wraith is alright I guess.

Any good solid chooses to get for 10k?
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Any idea what Monster fucked up Torvald?

It could not be Host since it was scrapped and it could not be any of existing Monsters since Torvald was a recent addition and by that time all current Monsters already existed.

So... is the the "?" thing in the Stage 2 update?
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>>149927478
>instead of mech-loli we got a granny
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>>149929737
Kraken, Meteor Goliath, or Gorgon for monsters
Lennox or Blitz Markov for assault
Abe, Crow, or Griffin for trapper
Caira or either Val for medic
Hank or Sunny for support
Everything else is either mediocre and tricky to use well or just plain ass
I'd add Hyde to assaults too but he's getting nerfed soon, wait and see what happens there
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>>149929723
>tfw you wasted 10 euros on a founder key and got the monster expansion pack with it

I did not know they'd fuck up this game so hard twice, TRS is beyond any reason or hope
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>>149930074
They said it's a minor nerf to his gas grenade
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is this a good first Hank game?
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>>149930639
Foolish water filtration merchant
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>>149930845
what
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>>149931304
>infowars.com
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>>149931304
>he's not an infowarrior
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>>149930281
>Minor
So an increased cooldown, reduced radius and reduced damage :^)?
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>People try to insist Bucket is tier 2
>Literally never won with one on my team
>Won with dozens of Kala's
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I unlocked Hyde. Dude can put out some damage, goddamn. Better than Markov.
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>>149936046
How do you have fun as a hunter? Isn't your team really crappy every game?
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>>149936143
it is
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>>149936046
He's getting nerfed next patch. Enjoy.
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First time playing this game and I bought Kala, any tips?
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>>149937012
Dont play kala
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>>149937012
Use the teleporter to cut the monster off
When fighting the monster only boost to dodge attacks
Play a different support since Kala isnt that great and will probably never get buffed
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>>149937238
damn now I gotta grind for another support, how about sunny?
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>>149936143
My team is crappy. And so is the monster.

I can get people that splits in 4 for every corner of the map, or a monster that decides that the optimal strategy is hitting people in a row instead of focusing nobody.
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>>149937423
Sunny's pretty good and she saves lives
Also best girl
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>look up which hunter does the most damage
>it's the nigger guy
>hm, guess I'll buy him


>he's 8000 shekels
>and his damage is getting nerfed next patch

Well it looks like it's time to uninstall I guess
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How do i play Kraken you guys?
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>>149938725
Parnell was already nerfed
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What are the best perks for the monsters?
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>>149938874
press spacebar to fly around
use your mouse to aim at people
the Kraken has like 4 attacks, you can look up what they do but it doesn't really matter, just make sure to press 1-4 as often as possible.
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Someone please explain to me why if people don't click continue after a game it takes longer to requeue. It doesn't matter if they are in your party (or you are in a party) or anything.
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>>149939347
anon please i don't know which abilities are good to get
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What's the fastest way to farm money other than dailies?
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>>149940504
buy a founder's key
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>>149940504
Spending your keys on new hunters as soon as possible is the fastest way to farm, the first 20 levels can almost earn you another hunter and it doesn't take long at all.
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>>149940610
thanks mane just got it
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Gorgon's wall pounce is SO FUN holy shit. Especially with pounce damage perks.

I wish they'd add a gold 3 pounce damage perk so I can do like 230 damage per tick.
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>>149941687
Yeah I've been running that recently and it's really fun. I wish there was still bonus damage though
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>>149939936

It seriously doesn't matter. If you aren't against 2000 hour crazy evolve-only hunters you will more than likely win
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>>149938725
Eh, not that anyone's going to playing at this point because they're scaring all of their hunters off, but all of the Assaults are soon to do no fucking damage, so Parnell isn't really special in that regard.
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>About to fucking win the monster has a tini tiny sliver of heath
>We get disconnected
It was an annoying fucking gorgon too
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Undebatable tier list

Monster
S
> Meteor Goliath, Kraken
A
> Gorgon
B
> Wraith, Elder Kraken
C
> Goliath
F
> Behemoth

Hunters
S
>Val, Hank
A
>Blitzkov, R. Val, Griffin
B
>Hyde, Markov, Parnell, Lennox, Tech Hank, Sunny, Crow, Abe, Caira
C
>Jack, EMET, Bucket

The rest are never play even as a joke tier.
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>>149944163
ok
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>>149944163
I'd swap wraith with gorgon but yeah
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Are all three jetpack-fuck perks worth it on Wraith, or is a normal build still better?

I don't feel like Wraith has too much trouble chasing people anyway, so I don't know how useful those actually are. What is it, like 60 damage a second too? That's not bad though I guess.
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>>149944787
>wraith has trouble chasing

Lmao, get a load of this supernova shitter
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>>149944163
>Wraith C
>Not D
I played with 6 Wraiths today and we killed them all
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>>149944973
>I don't feel like Wraith has too much trouble chasing people anyway,
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>>149944973
reading comprehension you god damn retard
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Best perks for Kraken?
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WHAT THE FUCKING SHIT IS HAPPENING

3 OUT OF THE LAST 9 GAMES I'VE PLAYED THE SCREEN JUST FREEZES AND THE GAME CRASHES ENTIRELY

CANNOT EVEN REJOIN THE FUCKING MATCH
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Just tried to evolve as Monster, got stuck and couldn't pick any skills. Couldn't move and just died to the hunters. Great AAA game senpai.
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Anyone else getting this weird glitch where the monster is invisible? I can see particle effects around it and sometimes bits and pieces, like the Gorgon's abdomen. Halfway through the match it usually corrects itself but it is making the early game a bitch.
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Holywtf Griffin rocks with damage
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>>149949814
>hook duration 10 seconds

YOU'RE

DOING

IT

WRONG
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>>149950469
Nope, with Gorgon I only used it when she was about to escape. In the battle it didn't matter anyway since we were trying to stay scattered and she never went after anyone personally.

Damn he is great at shooting banshee mines and spiders.
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>>149925280
>playing evolve stage 2
>wow this games fun look at all these cool enemies
>some guy in a fedora starts telling me to stop
>ask why
>he says BECAUSE MY TRACKING DARTS
>dont know what this means
>say no
>he rages
>ask why
>tells me to perform homoerotic acts on phallus

;-;
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>>149953176
asperger
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The bonus pounce damage perk is really fucking fun I've also gotten a lot more people bitching about gorgon after I started using it
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>>149953673
Oh wow, you won in the pub over the pub kids

Holyshit man can I be your friend? When I grow up I want to be like you - kick little defenseless infant in the belly and gloat about it.

This is what makes a man cool. I wan to be cool. I want all the vaginas
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>>149953386
added that word to filter thanks
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>>149954263
i detect salty hunter tears
>losing as hunter
kek
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>>149954263
I actually lost that game
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yeah its impossible to win even against bronze coordinated teams in this game
so stacked against monsters
i fucking quit
the guy in the bioshock shoot and laser is so fucking over powered takes no dmg kills me so fast
and that guy ignores my fucking armor
rogue val heals her teammates so much
then does a laz burst heal every time im about to kill her
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>>149954975
rogue val is 1500 health a heal burst. Lazarus is 500. I WISH lazarus had a 1500 health heal burst, that'd be fucking hilarious.
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>>149955079
xd so its 3x better
i just afked because it felt like the enemy was cheating with their heals shields and damage
they out tanked and out dpsed me by a huge margin... sure i was normal goliath but i just got done against hunters that arent broken as fuck and lost a third of my hp bar and won
>>
wtf is with teamates completely running into away from the team in fights?

People fucking love singling themselves out so I can help them.

Im trying to lvl jack up right now and its cancer. My repulsor is worthless with bad teammates.
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anyone else fell for the Cabot is bad meme?
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>>149955079
>rogue val is 1500 health a heal burst
Only self
>>
>focus a guy down
>good i killed him
>oh he has 1 hp
>lol shields
>lol heals
>lol 1 hp
>lol u cant kill him with auto attacks
>lol shield

kill yourself trs nerf hunters
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>>149955781
yeah, but it's still 1500.
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>>149955985
So, pointless 1500 heal against sneak attack? Sure kek
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how do i refund gorgon for kraken
gorgon is so bad
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>>149956023
3 shields and 3200 health you've got to go through before you get the incap.

>>149956165
you live with the regret of your purchase.
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>>149956326
What shields? If only Medi left these 1500 are pointless
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why are hunters so over powered
laser and flame thrower and electric gun guy are so over powered
never die
and do more dmg than i can do..
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>>149956581
>losing as a Monster against pubbers

you can't be fucking serious
There is barely 10-11% chance to meet good pre-made in pub and other than that it just slaughterfest.
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>>149956379
if only the medic is left there should only be a small handful of seconds left on the dropship timer due to the new dropship timer. You hit rogue val after the support otherwise it takes too long to kill everyone else.
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>Completely wreck a monster with Torv
>hes under half hp from the first dome

"Oh hey wow Torv is actually good if you play him correct"

>We dome monster in a cave

"Oh wow my mortars are literally useless so I cant even outdamage the fucking trapper

>Next dome is a cliff with a rock overhead

"Oh wow my fucking mortars are useless"

F L A W E D
D E S I G N
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>>149956692
Ive never won as monster. Im just that shit at it, i play hunters very effectively, esp medic and support, but i just cant handle monsters, like at all (tried goliath, kraken and wraith already, 0 wins. Yeah i know, im shit. Funny thing is i can easily reach stage 3 but still fuckin get my shit rekt every time)
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>blitzrov
>chasing around incredibly illusive wraith inside of first dome
>literally 3 fucking minutes of ring around the rosie because of awkwardly tight alleys on the ring
>set up 3 mines near his last escape route and we finally get that cock sucker cornered and lay into her
>drops armor and 1 bar of HP and legs it the fuck out of there
>directly into mines
>monster is 2 bar at first dome and literally is running for her fucking life the rest of the match

There is no greater fucking pleasure in this game then watching that HP drop like a fucking lead anchor.

Get fucked you zippy zappy decoy spamming shit.
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>>149957869
in cases like that you need to melee mortar.
Put yourself next to whoever is being focused if it's a melee monster and the next time he engages with a close skill, get into melee range of the monster, look almost straight up, and unleash your mortars. They'll direct impact into the monster while they're ascending.

For ranged monsters you wait until they begin to cast a skill that doesn't have knockback and you jetpack under them and unleash mortars straight up into them.
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>>149958581
>melee mortar.
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>>149959759
He just explained it. Aim your mortar at the ceiling when you're in front of the monster and they'll punch him in the face because he's taller than you.
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>>149959939
if this works, shoudlnt torv be the best assault?

If you land every mortar his DPS is insane.
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if I were to buy a founders key would I be able to play as the behemoth?
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>>149960253
it throws off positioning and results in the hunters taking overall more damage since you need to be on top of the person being focused. It's also harder to perform since any half decent monster will learn after that happens once or twice and they'll begin using abilities to displace Torvy before committing to a combo.
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>>149960491
no
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As cabot when you you damage amp and when do you just lay into the monster with the rail gun?
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>>149960895
fug
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>>149960984

damage amp until fully drained then a few rail shots till it recharges
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>>149961237

oh and don't damage amp if your assault is doing fuckall
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>>149960984
you coordinate with the rest of your team so that they're in a position to unleash hell the moment you amp. for blitz or lennox you amp when they're at or 1 stage away from their maximum damage output.
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>>149961237
>>149961330
>>149961383
And dust tagging just is a niggerig abe tracking dart?
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>>149961459
dusting is way better than the tracking dart in terms of straight value. It's mostly used in combat so that you have wallhax on the monster during domes and you can keep using your railgun through walls. I recommend pairing Cabot with Crow due to Gobi wallhax and damage amped charge shots on the chase.
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>>149961459

dust tagging works well with your penetrating gun, and especially in domes when sometimes you can't pinpoint where the monster is
>>
>forced into monster despite it being last pref
>go meatier
>outplaying the hunters and stage up early, barely sustained 1 bar of hp damage
>a couple other skirmishes but ultimately dont lose any hp
>get to stage 3
>as i'm finishing evolving, the game ends
>"HUNTERS WIN, THE MONSTER WAS KILLED"

did someone just use hacks to win
>>
>>149961743
did you run out of time? That happens if you run out of time.
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>>149960491
there is a different monster dlc key you need to buy afaik
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>>149961743
There is such hack yes, instantly reduces the timer to 0
>>
How do I do the thing in op?
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>>149961826
I was just playing normally, I wasn't paying attention to the timer but I rarely ever run out of time at all. I actually thought I staged up pretty quickly.

>>149962101
Fucking lame. Why would you want to hack in THIS fucking game... and to just cheat a win out after being outmaneuvered
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>>149962769
Cause hackers.
If they ruin your fun they win.
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what do the military stripes next to the characters on the 'waiting to deploy' bit mean?
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>>149963569
the more fancy it looks, the more likely you're going to stomp the monster.
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>Decide to play monster for once
>Always get a premade team
>Medic is always Rval or Val with a lvl 40 Griffin.

Funny thing is once I go back to hunter I get stuck with Slim and Torvald.
>>
Holy shit. Just played Markov for almost my first time. Only just now noticed how fucking murderous his lightning gun is. Markov best guy.
>>
how much longer for rotation. I needa know if i sleep or not. Gotta level Jack still.
>>
T6 Hunters when?
>>
Mason. Medic. When?
>>
>>149965882
not in near future
variations comming every two weeks though
>>
>>149966821

>yfw the bucket variation makes him even worse
>>
Who are the best current picks in each hunter class? Ones that a retarded pubbie like me can pick and do pretty well as long as i'm not pants-shittingly incompetent.
So far i've been playing Crow as trapper and having a good time, found Markov to be actually pretty damn murderous as Assault if you're getting your lightning gun off constantly, but i've only played Laz and Bucket for Support.
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>>149967142
>laz's adaptation is even worse than vanilla laz
I fully expect this to be the case and I'm truly saddened by it.
>>
>>149966821
Personally I think if TRS does give us a sixth tier of Hunters, we might get Mason as the Medic for thatteir. I mean, he does get mentioned in the predrop conversation between Parnell, Abe and Sunny.
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>>149967242
Regular Val and Caira are very good picks currently.
Hank is the best support bar none, he's in his own tier. It'd be followed by sunny then Cabot and everyone else is irrelevant.

Trapper is Abe/Crow currently then Griffin due to the multiple nerfs to his reload speed on harpoon. Electro griffin while not as effective as a trapper as regular griffin, is still a perfectly viable and fun trapper.
Jack is a very good trapper pick against the goliaths and a solid pick against wraiths. kinda falls short against everything else though.

Markov is the best assault overall currently. there's not a single monster he's bad against and he's super easy to use.
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>>149967242
Assault: Markov

Trapper: Abe
Griffin and Crow are good, too, but Abe has the dmg and once he catches up to the monster he can keep his ass darted for the rest of the game.

Medic: Val

Support: Hank

Hank and Val are pretty similar and work perfectly together.
>>
>>149967470
>>149967430
Since there's two Vals, i'll save up for Val and i'll get Hank. Any reason why Val rather than Rogue Val?
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>>149967263
My dad works at TRS
Laz's variant will have the same gun but instead of the dmg multiplyer, you get healed for 10% of the dmg you do on a weakpoint hit

cloak has a much longer duration but drains really fast if you move.

Lazarus device removes strikes on dead hunters now, but they come back with 10%hp
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>>149967592
R.val has bad healing once she has to use her self burst.
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>>149967592
rogue val has been nerfed every balance patch thus far and she's no longer a pub god. as a result, regular val can significantly outheal rogue val when someone is being exclusively focused.
>>
>>149967747
>>149967691
Well, that was infuriating. Just had a match as Wraith vs a team including a Rogue Val. Fucking hell she's nearly unkillable. Every time I got her low, she was suddenly full health again, over and over. Mildly infuriating.
>>
>>149968728
focus down the support and then her, otherwise you've gotta basically kill her 4 times over.
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>>149968867
Nah, focus R.Val until she uses her self heal, then focus support.

Support goes down quick after that.
>>
>>149968867
>>149969292
I think I see the logic to this. Once she bursts self heal, her passive heal is gone. Then I can focus down others whilst she can't keep them alive as well, especially with her split healing thing, right?
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>>149969292
our team sometimes compares notes with other teams and we've found out that some of them run 3 tiers of self regen on Rval which combined with a hank makes her literally impossible to focus down. I don't know what pubs pick for her, but if there's a hank it's definitely a safer bet going for him now that her general healing has been nerfed by 30%
>>
>tfw play Wraith for the first time and even pick the edgy skin
>Win just skilling whatever

Well that was something. Also the only relay kill I've had as monster yet, I killed and ate the other couple guys and then Lazarus fucked off somewhere with like 30 seconds or some on the respawn and just let me kill the relay from full health uncontested.
>>
>>149972376
>laz
did you seriously expect not to win?
>>
Am i the only one who leaves the lobby every time somebody unrronically picks Laz?
>>
>>149938725
Parnell isn't the most damaging, but he is the most consistent. Monsters can do little to avoid him.
>>
Is it even worth playing with a Laz on your team?
>>
>>149974165
markov is far and away the most consistent damage with parnell having the most consistent burst. lightning gun has half the range of an entire dome and you can't miss.

>>149974242
if that laz is actually good and your assault can get shit done, you can get by, but as a laz main I can definitely say he really needs some major buffs to be actually viable and not a gimmick pick.
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>>149974345
Will you consider Bot Laz to be good?
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>Today's sign-in reward is 2.5k
>Tommorrow's reward is also 2.5k
>Day 25 is electro griffin
>Day 26 and 27 are both only 100 keys

What the fuck is this?
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>>149975425
worse than bot slim.
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So how does everyone feel about the Emet buff that's coming next patch?
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>>149977313
I think the game is already dead.
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>>149977313
I don't think anyone would be mad about EMET getting buffed.
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>>149978265
the things I'd do to that rump
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>>149979374
it doesn't help that the armor line marks makes it look like her ass is ready to explode
>>
>lose most of my hunter games because teammates are sniffing glue
>switch to monster and afk to farm some stress free keys
>after about 20 game like that I decide, why not sneek around a bit
>I got 5 strikes on the enemy team as wraith with no perks, I had ZERO hp loss as well
>suddenly instantly die from full hp and 90% armor

I guess I finally figured out why the statistics show that it's a hunter dominated meta, even though 99% of the hunters are literal vegetables who could not tie their own shoelaces.

Glad to see the devs balance around hackers being in your team.
>>
>>149977313
I am pretty glad even though I do pretty decent with him already so this will make my life easier.
>>
>>149978215
It looks like it's pretty well evened out now, it's been in the high or mid teen thousands for the past good bit.
>>
Is it bad that after playing both Goliath and Wraith, I think I honestly prefer Goliath? I win more as Wraith but Goliath feels more fun.
>>
Where can i find some Rule 34 of Wraith?
>>
>>149982403
>>>/mlp/
>>
>>149982076
That's because Goliath is more fun to play and to play against too
Everyone wins
>>
>>149982076
kraken, gorgon and m goliath are all better than wraith
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>>149982529
>mfw I quickly jetpack boost in front of Goliath to tank a rock
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>>149982436
>ywf the autistis and constantly triggered Wraithhater will never let this thread to be comfy ever again and always will be here

nice things, etc
>>
>>149983523
I already shit all over people without evolving as wraith. Using kraken would be like Usain Bolt running in the special olympics.
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>>149969292
> then focus support.

>support is Hank
>Assault is Markov withg mines and Lightning Gun
>by the time Val uses self-heal your armor is gone

Just so you know: if the team is braindead it is irrelevant who you focus on and you are describing exactly the case.
>>
Did you guys look at the official evolve Trello's page?
https://trello.com/b/D8JlQGll/evolve-stage-2-feature-bug-roadmap
>>
So, Tech Sgt Hank and regular Hank. Which should I get first and why? Also, is Blitz Markov better than regular Markov and why?
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>>149986971
Will the new wraith adapation be even more lewd ?
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>>149986971
>Monster adaptations are still a long ways away
I'm sure the game will be 100% dead and buried before we get that far
Damn shame
>>
>>149986971
>Lobby re-queue

Thank the fucking lord
>>
>>149987501
she will have an ability called RAPE when activated will tp her and her victim to a rape cave where she depletes all their jp fuel and sets their hp to 1 and the hunter will grunt and moan for the rest of the match even if their hp is recovered to full
>>
>>149987319
Regular Hank, Tech is also good don't get me wrong, the death laser is beautiful when it hits, but he requires more setup time and shit than you're ever gonna get with pubs.

Blitz Markov CAN be better, but the problem is that his higher damage depends on being able to hold the beam until it ramps up, which is a real motherfucker if the monster's actually making good use of movement skills.
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>>149989861
Blitz can do more damage IF you can consistently get gold beams and you're packing high capacity. The rub is they dropped his range to 23m from 27m which is pretty damn huge because the monster even melees you it will typically break the beam. So you have to be close enough to hit it but not close enough to be hit but also fast enough to jetpack along with their leaps in the direction they are going.

Regular Markov is a lot easier and lets you maintain a comfy distance while swapping to the machine gun on the cooldown.
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Just faced some fuckernugget playing wraith who dashed into the sky and stayed up there for almost a minute at a time. Why would you cheat in this game? What is even the point?
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>>149993806
maybe he just had all the traversal cd perks
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>>149987501
Wraith will have a new ability to replace decoy, instead of two wraiths they'l be zero wraiths.

She gets bonus damage upon breaking stealth, can't be tracked while in stealth and her pounce has twice the range.
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ROTATION FUCKING WHEN
NO TWEET
NO NUFFIN
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>>149993806
Get Jack and shove him down to the ground
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>>149996061
Gorgon, Lennox, waggie, tech Hank, rouge Val. Sounds like a good week
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>>149995465

Decoy used to make wraith invisible.
It gave her bonus damage when pouncing from stealth, like you describe.
However, it was shit in combat since the decoy disappeared when she broke stealth, and if you shot her she'd become visible for 0.2 sec. In contrast, on the hunt it made her really hard to trap, because obviously it can be difficult to track something that keeps going invisible, that was all it was good for though. Smart Wraiths never took it, shit Wraiths took it and used it as a crutch. Overall it was a pretty shit ability. It's much better how it is now, but it still needs some tweeks. I personally think the entire idea is poorly designed and the ability should be scrapped completely, but that's TRS for you. They couldn't balance a fucking spirit level.
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>Go Rogue Val
>Kala on our team says 'Thank god, it's not Lazarus'
>He switches to Bucket
>He uses his Mechanical Recharge to carry me through the match

I love this game
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>>149998325
>medic chooses Laz
>do not despair
>DO NOT DESPAIR
I despaired
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>>149989648
>not activating X ability makes wraith look vulnerable for a few seconds and baits the hunters into raping her while instead she recovers shield for each damage she receives
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>>149998325
>>150001524
Laz may be not a greeat medic for long-term sustain but he is incredibly fun to play especially when you manage to pulloff ressurection under the Monster's nose

it just so satisfying
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>>150001792
she has four different abilities m8
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>>149998325
lol'd the first time i heard him say that

such a shame he blows because i think his whole idea is pretty cool. every time i hear him talk though i just hate him a little more because he's so arrogant yet he fucking sucks
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>>150001971
true, but TRS will probably slack and only change one ability and then slightly change another one.
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>>150002504
>laz
>arrogant

wat
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>>150002504
>>150004993
Less arrogant, more really confident. 'I will prove to be the better man', etc.
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>>150005447
He's proud as a thanatologist.
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>>150006012
He's also sad because he is the last thanatologist
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>>150007420
Don't worry, hunter nerfs incoming, we are also looking into buffing monsters some more.
P.S We will no anti cheat though, we deemed it unimportant.
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>it's a gorgon game

love this meme
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>>150008305
>its a gorgon rotation
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FREE ROTATION

GORGON

LENNOX

ROGUE VAL

WASTELAND MAGGIE

TECH HANK
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>>150009280
slowpoke
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Is lennox shit against gorgon?
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>>150007937
The amount of complaints has steadily declined since the beginning of stage 2 so we are doing something right!

t. TRS
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>>150009432
She's okay, just be careful don't be in front of her, her web ability has a big hitbox and cancels your combo, you can also one hit kill the lil spiders.
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>>150009432
She one hits spider mines and can close distances with her lightning jump thing. It's not her worst matchup
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>>150009403
Show me the post in this thread that lists all current characters in free rotation
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Any tips on how to play Gorgon now it's in free rotation? Best abilities, fun tricks, etc.?
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>>150010387
Why?
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>>150010427
just crtl+f
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>>150010387
>>149996175
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>>149975695
You wont make it to day 26 and 27 dont worry.

Resets every month
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>>150011093
wait, so....I wont get electro griffin if I joined the game to late?!
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>>150011781
You can still just buy him in the store. You just won't get him for free
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>>150011884
BULLOCKS!
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Anyone know when the daily reset happens exactly?
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>>150011932
you mean bollocks
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>Rval and Tech Hank freebies coming

God this is gonna be miserable. It's not like it's gonna be actually all that harder most times, it's just gonna be so much more of a slog.
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>>150011932
EG sucks anyway, bottom tier trapper along with waggie
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>>150011932
I know that feel senpai. Im going to be 1 day off for Kraken.
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If I buy Founders cd key, what perks does it unlock exactly, I already have 1st tier perks unlocked and leveled(lvl3)
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>>150008435
how do i beat gorgon
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>>150013870
>no cooldown cheats
kek
ur dumb
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>>150013717
dont stand in acid, shoot spiders
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>>150013923
>>150014106
Delete this
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I'm really addicted to Evolve ffs reee, uninstalled, want to install again, i need to get on with my life
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>>150014785
don't leave us, Aleys!
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>>150014785
I highly suggest against it.
The game is only enjoyable if you play monster and don't get hacker hunters.
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>>150006247

We don't know that, there could be others. All we know is that the technology is illegal in hub space.
There was one on Tovald's Ebonstar ship, the Ajax. He's dead obviously, but there could easily be others working for Ebonstar.
Basilisk soldiers are outlawed too, Slim could be one of the last, but for both the last basilisk solder AND the last thanatologist to both be on Cabot's ship is a bit of a stretch.
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>>150015167

The game is enjoyable when you get a good team as hunters, but that's literally a 1/25 chance.
There's always the possibility that you'll get a shit monster when you get baddies too, though. Still, baddies find a way to throw a sure thing.
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>tfw Assault
>Terrible trapper
>I know can hear where the monster is going

I can be a team player and risk letting him evolve. Or i can run after him alone. What do?
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>>150013940

Pretty much this. If your medic get's spidered and acid'd you're done, son.
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>>150015994
Don't forget when your hunters are glue sniffers that go 1vs1 the monster and don't use their other abilties besides their gun.
Add on top of that smug monsters that gg or tell you how easy it was.
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>>150016157
It will help if Jack could stop dooming the monster inside caves.
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>>150016327
what do if it's either dome it in a cave or risk letting it go feed more
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>>150013604

None.
You get all the base hunters and monsters and their adaptations and all future adaptations though. You also get about 40k keys, which is enough to buy 10 gold perks.
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>>150016436
you get 30k keys, some of earlier hunters and monsters and some perks
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>>150016418

If you have it cornered in a cave, keep it there. You're running out the timer, which is good for you and bad for the monster. He may still be feeding, but he won't be feeding nearly as fast as if he were on the move.
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>>150014724
>>150014106
CDR perks won't help as much.

If you are too dumb to realize that the Monster has no delay between abilities AND no delay between any animations you deserve to lose.
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>>150015820
There is a bounty on Basilisk soldiers, but it is slightly more likely that Laz could be the last of his kind, considering Cabot is recruiting anyone willing to join him.
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>>150017498
Laz isn't the last but Thantologists are pretty fucking rare, much more rare than Basilisk soldiers probably
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>>150018543
>torvald not t4
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>>150018668

this, possibly on the brink of tier 5
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>>150018543
>Most hunters are tier 3 or better
I wish that would mean that balance is actually getting somewhere but it still feels off
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>>150018543
bucket is fine tier imo, I deal as much damage as torvald with him being a support
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>>150018543

>tech hank
>t2

Nah, he's pretty shit. All he can do is prep you for a fight, once his shield's gone it's fucking gone for the rest of the dome, save for his class skill shield. The rest of his kit is just ok damage. He's a slightly better Cabot. That doesn't make him T2, he's not even close to on par with Sunny.
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>>150019001
The difference between Tier 1 and 2 are the same as the moon and earth, tier 2 to 3 are the distance between the moon and the sun, get it?
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Is there a way to toggle run forward?
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>>150019714
put brick on W
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>>150019714
you can write ahk script for that
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>>150019714
If you bring up text chat while running you autorun.
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>>150019714
what for if I may inquire?
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>>150020743
Ah thats how I did it that one time.

So given the range nerfs to the telsa gun range.

Is Markov or Blitzkov better now?
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>>150018767
>>150018668
Some anon from the last thread convinced me the buffs they did to him are good enough to move him up. I mean, he still sucks major dicks compared to every other assault, but I'm literally not man enough to find out and suffer through matches with the worst assault in the game. I'll move him back down.

>>150019307
Defense > Damage, but you're right, Bucket does deserve to be higher. When used properly he's a real pain the ass with his resets and ebola turrets.

>>150019390
His shielding in the dome is pretty shit for sure, but the extra amount you get while you're chasing the monster has not let me down. He's a more gimmicky Hank, but he delivers fine on defense. Plus the orbital laser is gravy.

Overall I'm never really disappointed if there's a Tech Hank in the team. Defensive Supports > Tech Hank > Offensive Supports.
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>>150020836
Roll a sex.

A good blitzkov is better than a good markov.
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>>150021034
>Roll a sex
what
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What perks are the perks?
I'm rolling all jetpack regent cause fucking sick of being slow.
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>>150021124
Don't make me tell you to lurk more faget
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>>150021258
jetpack recharge is the sock that fits all
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>>150021323
Ahhh I get ya

I prefer a WOMAN
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>>150020852
Why is Lennox in Excellent? She's more gimped than Hyde when it's a Kraken.
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>>150020836
Markov has identical total damage done as Blitz, if Blitz never loses contact with the beam. Now if you have capacity, you might push out more damage out of Blitz, but if even a single beam gets interrupted once per fight, you're already treading in normal Markov damage territory.

Mobile monsters can easily break your beam by flying across your screen. Or if they know what they're doing, hit you once as they see the red beam. After the nerfs this it's just unacceptable to get interrupted.

I personally run normal Markov with 5% damage and 60% Jetpack recharge to ensure I can always deliver the full beam and reliably dome the monster when cutting him off. Extra jetpack also helps with Krakens 150 meters up in the sky.

>>150021258
Jetpack for all medics, supports and trappers. Assaults can get the luxury of taking something else.
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>>150021909
Not double capacity perks?
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>>150021871
shes ok vs kraken while an absolute powerhouse against all other
>>
www.evolveupdates.com/stage2/

scroll down to maps improvements, maps used to look better ffs, much moodier, why did they change it
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>>150021871
Outside of the Kraken matchup she's melts monsters. Kraken is just a unique monster where it's an issue to nearly all Hunters do deal with.

Abe and Jack are also in T1, while their use against a Kraken is minimal. Kraken just ignores so many hunting tools that the only way about it is to make a separate tier list just for Kraken, which I'd rather not do.

>>150022031
Capacity for normal Markov you mean? You could, but it's down to personal preference. I feel way more comfortable with 60% Jetpack recharge over 40% Capacity.

If you're not using the Tesla gun, you're either laying down mines or more likely using the Assault rifle waiting for the Tesla recharge. It takes pretty much exactly 1 rifle magazine for the Tesla gun to recharge with no capacity perks. It's perfect synergy by default.

If you have capacity, you shoot the rifle longer, when you actually shouldn't since the lightning gun should already be up. You could ignore the the extra rifle bullets, but then you're just using capacity strictly for the lightning gun. But then you're often left out in the cold with no jetpack when the monster moves outside of your lightning gun range, and it starts to recharge before you could even finish unloading the whole thing. That's when I realized capacity is not such a great idea on Markov.
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>>150023072
They'll say game balance but the real reason is toasters, and it makes sense. A f2p game can't get away with technical demand. People gotta play before they pay.
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>shitty pub
>8 games in alreay
>4 of them Monster with 4-9 winstreak
>we ended each of them

wow, I'm lucjy today
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>>150021323
>that bulge

fuck off gaytrapfag
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>>150023943
virgin detected
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>>150024315
Better virgin than dirty gay piece of shit
go suck some salty unwashed dicks
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>>150023943
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>>150024448
how many vaginas have you seen in your life, vagina is not just a hole in the abdomen, it has meaty lips too m8
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>Cant stop winning with Gorgon
>Don't want to even play Monster
>Keep getting forced to by broken matchmaking
Halp
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>>150024657
Mmm... Puffy...
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>>150024657
not him but a vagins is literally jus a hole in the abdomen between the labia and the cervix
dont mind me, go on you two
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I never play monster
it's 5th on my preference
still get it 80% of the time
queue is literal shitshow it makes me mad ffs
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>>150026203
Just play no preference for those tasty 20 cred
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>>150027159
>no preference
>still leave lobby if they dont get what they want
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>>149972376
what do people mean by eating people?
do you mean pounce?
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>>150027837
You take a bite out of hunter's body and ressurection timer reduced by 10 seconds
You ate it fully and cannot ressurect
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>>150027837
kill them, not just down them and press E next to them like its wildlife
its a nice tactic and makes Laz useless
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>>150025913
>vagins is literally jus a hole in the abdomen
Not really. It's reasonably far from the abdomen and definitely not inside of it.
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>>150029095
thank you Dr. Anon, I'll search them in other places next time
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>>150029095
>>150029095
Well it does ends in the abdomen, I mean, otherwise where are all these 50cm long black cocks go in? Another dimension?
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Is there a fix for crashing? Since they have no reconnect mechanic it feels like I'm being a dick.
Happens on the loading sometimes.
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>it's a "Bucket just presses 3 whenever it's off cooldown regardless of the situation episode"

why do shitters always play bucket
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>can't even find lobbies with less than 2 monster preferring shitmunks

nice balance changes TRS

dead as fuck game
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>>150030478
You are the shitter.

In order for Bucket's Recharge to work properly you need to communicate either with medic or Assault via mic to time it for their shit
otherwise it always looks like it is not in time in pub

so fuck off shitter
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>>150031692
That's exactly what he said
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So what does daisy even do? I've never really seen that dog track down the monster and it just seems to exist to very occasionally remember to pick people up which is a bit shit. Even as monster I practically ignore it when I'm running.
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>>150031692
i'm not bitching because he wouldn't use it after i healing bursted, which i know takes cooperation. i'm bitching because he would use it when the monster is running away after a dome. like he got downed and then after he got picked up, just used it. he also used it at the beginning of the round
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>play a match
>doing kind of ok but hank goes down
>then he starts saying shit in chat but it doesn't seem targeted at anyone specific
>then later says in all chat for someone (presumably monster) to get cancer
>quits
>get fucked over in a stupid doming done by the bot

I see the dwindling playerbase just gets worse and worse and more cancerous by the day
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>>150032286
>>150031562
hahaha hunter babies, cry more, actual good players can sometimes kill me
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>>150032473
yes premades and the top 0.1% with 500-3000 hours invested in the game that they are balancing the game for :^)

>implying playing monsters is hard in pubs
:^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^)
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>>150031815
No, that's not what he said, he just made general bitching shitpost

>>150032268
That's the FUCKING point you mogoloid. IN pubs it ALWAYS will look like it is utterly pointless. It is like bitching that you hirt your leg when you kicked the brick wall.

Dumb shitter
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which ones to buy lads, will the regular one give me 30k creds?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Evolve-Key-STEAM-Game-Download-Code-PC-EU-DE-NEU-Vollversion-/400753412610

or do I have to buy this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Evolve-Stage-2-Founders-Edition-Key-PC-STEAM-Digital-Download-Code-DE-EU-/201392320246
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LOL

>friday
>the work week is done
>only 8000 players currently

RIP
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Best perks for griffin?
>>
>play support
>die because the medic is a mongoloid and the monsters can destroy your jetpack escape attempts with perks now and anyone but the shittiest monsters know that they can easily win by striking the support if they can't get the medic first
>can't shield the medic enough because shield burst is worthless and gone in one attack burst and your shielding gets cut off constantly anyway
>monsterfags play cancerous shit like MG and Kraken

I'm loving all these hunter nerfs and monster buffs
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>>150033489
You don't understand, 4 coordinated people on mics can sometimes beat me, so what if I shit on 99% of the pubs, they are just BAD and need to GIT GUD.
However if I lose, it's because clearly the hunters are OP, please nerf!
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>>150034924
Graph fag here

Is it time for my smug "I told you so little dumb retards"?
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>>150034924
peaks are what matter and they will soon be under 13k

their solution to cheating is
>we're looking into it
>we want to prevent

instead of actually implementing any kind of proper anti-cheat

hell, there are players that don't start cheating until they are losing

this game is so fucking dead
fuck you TRS you giant fucking idiots
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>>150035412
it's a shame desu, game it self is very well made with a huge potential, ruined by limp dick management
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>>150035412

Yea I saw that. Had a hunter on my team with a 69 winstreak.

I knew we weren't in danger at anytime, because he'd just turn on his cheats and one shot the monster.
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I feel like a piece of shit having to leave in the middle of a game where we clearly would have won. I might force myself to play monster as punishment.
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>>150032185
Your daisy picks people up? what the actual fuck, I can't even convince mine to even do that.
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>>150037285
What a shitty owner you are
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Night hunter daisy a best
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>join lobby
>all no preferences except me
>all leave
???
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>>150039210
>lobby in low levels - everyone stays
>lobby in hgigh levels - it takes 30 minutes to start a match because of the leavers
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Anyone want to team? Might be fun.
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>>150027993
how do i do this
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>>150040342
press e
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>>150035090
Bamp
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>>150033584
>mogoloid

but interesting logic, totally my fault that he's a moron and doesn't perform a 1 minute google search to find out what his hunter does
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>>150034762
i got the founders key, the second link, and it gave me 30k keys, a bunch of hunters and monsters and perks

got it off g2a though for double that price, fugg
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>>150040457
doesnt do anything
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gorgon is the worst monster in the game
they just pick guy in suit and i can never kill anyone and die

FUCK ABE
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>>150041164
they have to be dead, aka not revivable
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>>150040621
You are the one making implications so yes, yours.

Try to think before posting next time
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how do i beat the hunters that heal a million hp then heal themselves to full when they about to die
they laser and trap me then i cant move and im dead this is bullshit no counterplay

when i tell them to kill themselves for playing op hunters they go WAAAHHH TRIGGERED HAHHAHAHA XDSDDDDDHXGBHDC

kill yourself trs fix hunters
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>>150041871
monsters become much stronger when you unlock perks
>>
http://steamcommunity.com/id/TheAlphaGamer118/

Another cheatfag

No cooldown + occasional teleport as a Monster
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>>150042368
>951 hrs on record

why would he start cheating lmao
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>>150042189
"im trying to give YOU STRATEGY"

my reply "you picked bioshock infinite armor guy and val KILL YOURSELF NIGGER and laser guy
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>>150042189
what perks beat the retarded flamethrower and/or laser guy and/or bioshock suit guy that shoots close range?
he never dies tanks more than me and does more dmg than me
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>>150042765
k den, kill support first, they cant support themselves, if you manage that, kill medic, after that its 2 free kills
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>>150042593
>No cooldown + occasional teleport as a Monster
>reading comprehension

You can see the insane teleport jumps on the map replay
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Is emet at least usable now that he's had some buffs?
I'm still trying to rank everyone up and emet's next on my list
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>>150043127
sigh.... what I am getting at that it is weird that he would start cheating now, I am not doubting you, so you can >reading comprehension' yourself
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>>150043209
wait until tuesday where he's getting a really big buff.
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>>150043054
oh
i thought i was supposed to focus medic or assault cus assualt kills me in 4 seconds
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>>150043054
what color is support
also
>teammates pick rogue val lennox and crow
>i just leave so the monster has a handicap
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after getting my ass blasted by hunters for a couple of days i finally beat a couple of hunters as a monster and let me tell you i feel really cozy right now

is their not a better feeling than winning as a goliath?
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>>150043478
>now

Evolve nevber had any cheat protection. Old cheats never were banned
>>
>see bioshock suit guy in loading screen
>just let them kill me at drop ship spawn and collect my keys
>no point in wasting time trying to win vs unwinnable
>they trap and try super hard when all im doing is crouching
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>>150043934
you can see the colours in the lobby
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>enemy team picks op hunters
>dont have fun
>just afk for free keys
>tell me to stop playing monster
>apparently im bad because their hunters have 0 counter play
>apparently jet packing on a ledge takes skill
>>
>enemy team picks the tier 1 hunters
>talks shit at end
>acts like their just gud
>whenever they talk on mic they all sound like normies

fuck this game
>>
>escape lost 2 hp bars in dome fight because shield guy just jet packs around through all my grounder perks
>torvald lands one mortar
>half my hp g one
>just afk
>>
Holy fucking shit Lennox is a mad powerhouse.

You have to be mad good with her though, can't get hit by any AoE or your there goes your damage. But still, the first lance hits are pretty good.
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>>150045546
they've cut her damage by about 40% since launch. she's pretty weak compared to when she was doing 250 damage at base combo and 500 each punch at cap.
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>>150045714
butwhy.jpg

You have to be really good to not get hit by absolutely anything as an assault. You practically want to get hit, because that means other team members aren't being hit.
>>
>out play the fuck out of the hunters
>bioshock guy just zips to me and kills me anyway
>xd
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>level 10
>50 game win streak as monster
>level 20
>everyone has the op hunters
>win 30% of the time
xd hunters r b alanced guis
trust me im just rlly gud at hunter xdddd
i quit this retarded shit game
sick of bioshock suit guy doing 3 hp bars in1 attack
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hunters that pick bioshock suit guy win no matter what and theirs nothing i can do about it
why is he tankier than me then does so much dmg its impossible to win
im a fucking MONSTER
HES A GOD DAMN HUMAN
WHY IS HE STRONGER
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>>150046060
because she was wrecking noob monsters.
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>>150046457
>noob monsters
>implying being a hunter takes skill
>implying hunters arent op
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>>150046238
>bioshock suit guy
it's a she and you made like 20 pots today about it, buy kraken and she is countered
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>>150046656
>Monster Only Player : The Guy
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>>150046124
>>out play the fuck out of the hunters

Wow, you outplayed the pub hunters?

Damn anon, I love to smash kids around too., they sqeuak so funny XD
>>
it's another episode of we kill Wraith in the first dome
>>
>lost to a Lennox as Kraken
Oh the shame.
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>shitty dragonfly
>not superior moth

fucking TRS
>>
Jack has the best personality, wish game had more dialogue
>>
>>150050945
You have to be 18 years old to be able to visit and post on 4chan

Reported
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>>150051373
At least he didn't say EMET.
>>
>>150034924
That's called the ol' Monsters are significantly easier than Hunters and have no learning curve so Hunters get bodied over and over and quit in droves

Bad design, more or less.
>>
>>150051373
>>150051495
don't be so self concious
>>
>>150029807
connects directly to the esophagus
>>
>>150020852
>>150018543
Why no love for Electro Griffin? Stasis on SMG and bonus dmg on harpoon is pretty sweet
>>
Is the "20 keys for no preference" bugged? I don't see anything saying that I got the keys.
>>
>>150055968
like 1/3 range on harpoon
no slow on harpoon
9 damage/bullet is garbage especially when it is so horrendously inaccurate
the slow is seriously only like 10% and lasts for like .5 seconds so it isnt anywhere close to other hunter's slows
the damage on the harpoon is negligible
>>
>>150057007
Thanks, was looking for a reason to use OGriffin.
Though some say harpoon range is 25m vs OG's 39 which is in favor of OG but not 1/3.
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>>150057007
>no slow on harpoon
for real?
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>>150055968
>>150057373
>>150057271
>namefagging nigger
>>
new to this game
how exactly does the dome work?
i got trapped as goliath and it didnt come down for a long ass time
>>
https://discord.gg/DSYW8Ae

join discord, talk about game, maybe play with other people
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>>150057686
>not being a nigger
wus the matter cus, u ray ciss or sumtin? baka
>>
>>150058020
>how exactly does the dome work?
>i got trapped as goliath and it didnt come down for a long ass time

If you lose health bars as monster or you down hunters, the dome timer gets reduced, so once you get domed, go balls deep. You can hide inside the dome to recharge your shield.
>>
I got 24k keys burning in my pocket. What perks should I get for the monsters?
>>
>tfw you'll never have a beer with Griffin and be his civvie friend

He's the coolest most chillest out of all the hunters bros. Next up would probably be Parnell and Cabot.
>>
Been alternating Markov and Blitz back and forth all night.

The constant 40 damage tic from Markov seems so much more powerful then the odd 21 and 34 tic from blitz yet every game he comes out miles ahead in damage. I only get gold beams like 1/3 attempts and still he punches like a bear cunt.
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>>150058069
fuck off shill
>>
>>150058903
Abe is cool too.

Crow is pretty awesome
>>
>>150058631
ok i had another game as goliath. uh some faggot kept slowing me and they had track up like every 30 seconds. i managed to evolve to level 2. their healer never died. i only went for her 99% of the time and she didnt die

was really frustrating and not fun at all

being domed and tracked is a really shitty feeling. there should be an incentive to kill hunters rather than an incentive to run away and hide
>>
>>150058746
grounder or poison are really good right now
they are getting nerfed next patch though
>>
>>150060165
how bad
>>
>>150060072
There is, your evolution bar fills with downed hunters.

Don't go after the medic for now, go after the weakest link in the team. If they suck and die easily, the entire team is fucked.
>>
>rogue val
>abe
>cabot
>hyde
i didnt wanna have fun anyway
>>
>>150060550
>cabot
but that's a free win
I've never seen a cabot do anything other than hold the amp on the monster and whine like a bitch
>>
is jack shit
>>
>>150061080
Low tier but playable if you're good.
>>
so no preference gives more keys?
>>
>Once the dropship timer hits 5 seconds, all incapped Hunters are automatically placed in the dropship to make sure all Hunters will make the drop.
>Suicide to spawn on dropship has been removed, it is now automated.
Uh.. wtf?
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>>150059302
Oh yeah I forgot Abe. Crow is "cool" but he's autistic
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>guy picks bioshock guy
>tell them im friendly monster and afk in spawn dont hurt anyone
>he tries super hard anyway
>call him a shitty nigger for trying super hard on broken champ
>"I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT CHARACTERS DO GET A LIFE"
>hes a normie
>every bioshock abuser is a normie
>reee
>>
>>150061156

whats the toppest tier trapper then
>>
>>150062053
kill yourself for abusing freelo in a beta game you stupid fucking shit
>>
>>150062140
what?
>>
>>150062225
>whats the best x
>lolo its not freelo or op its just skill xdd
>>
>>150062359
the game balanced seems whacked as fuck. its not my fault if there is a top tier in the game, its the designers fault
>>
>>150062013
low resolution b8
>>
>>150062359
>>150062140
are you retarded
>>
>>150059197
just want to play with people
>>
>>150062053
Griffin, abe, crow in no particular order.
>>
>go no prefernce to play pokemon explorers of sky to farm keys
>usually hunter
>monster needs the crutch anyway with bioshock guuy

al
>>
how long before the afk timer kicks in and how much movement counts as not afk
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>>150063179
>Bioshock guy
Do I sense a spicy new meme?
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Can someone help a new person understand the Preference system? I joined a lobby with my preference set to Trapper on the left, and monster at the very end to the right. There was someone else with a preference for Monster, Medic and two supports. Somehow I was made to play the monster, and the monster was made to play a support, while one of the supports was made into a trapper. I guess it was a nice crash course on playing Gorgon and I ended up actually winning, but what the hell is up with that preference system? That can't be how it's supposed to work.
>>
>>150063352
Pretty sure they replaced the preference system with everyone picking what they want (to avoid people quitting lobbies that don't have their character). I'm pretty sure the preference system literally does nothing now
>>
>>150063714
>>150063714
>>150063714
>>150063714

Get in gaylords
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