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Nail in the Coffin Edition

http://store.steampowered.com/app/273350/
http://evolve.wikia.com/wiki/Evolve_Wiki

>What is Evolve?
Evolve uses an asymmetrical structure where five players, four playing as hunters and one as the monster, battle against each other in an industrialized alien planet called Shear.
Stage 2 is the transition to Free To Play + a lot of gameplay changes.

>What's new?
http://www.evolveupdates.com/stage2/

>I heard the game was dead?
It was, ~200 players on Steam and little to no updates from the developers. If F2P can bring it back is unknown, but as of right now 18k people are playing it.

>Should I "get" it?
It's free. 18GB. Download and test it out.

>F2P Model?
Every week, four hunters (one of each class) and one monster will be in the free rotation. There are currently 24 Hunters and 7 Monsters in total. By playing the character tutorials, you unlock one hunter (Markov) and one monster (Goliath) to keep forever.

Additional monsters, hunters, perks, and skins are unlocked by earning silver keys. Silver keys are earned by playing the game, leveling up, or getting login bonuses. Currently you can't actually buy silver keys, presumably so they can test the unlock rate, but that's coming later.

There is also a monthly login bonus punch card. You get one punch for each day you log in. Beyond silver keys, this can directly award new Hunters and Skins.

>What if I don't want to grind for characters and perks?
You can buy the game and it to gives your account full founder benefits, which gives you 30k keys and most characters.

>Microtransation?
None as of yet.

>Steam group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/evolvevg

>Perk info(Inc. how to unlock them)
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=721252371

>Patch info:
http://steamcommunity.com/games/273350/announcements/detail/609493948032159746

Canon Stories:
https://talk.turtlerockstudios.com/t/evolve-hunter-stories-canon-latest-story-kalas-story/25399

Old shit
>>149532630
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NEW UPDATE
Forgot to include in the OP

http://steamcommunity.com/games/273350/announcements/detail/609494389803921586
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Second for wraith best waifu
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did they remove the idle option?
i was playing as a monster and i couldnt find it anymore...
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nth for blitz leopards giving Caira sensations Goliath couldn't
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if you guys have had a chance to play around with the balance changes, is it as bad as it seems?
please tell me it isn't
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This new update fucking broke the game, then I tried uninstalling and it fucking broke steam
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>>149692660
caira does not fuck aliens
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blog post incoming because im egotistical

Evolve is on a RAPID decline because TRS has shown once again how completely inept they are it comes to balancing.

It gets harder and harder for new players and pubs to actually compete with every patch they release. They are actively driving their new players away, and all that will remain are a couple thousand extremely loyal fans if that. Some hunters are still completely unplayable at average to high level play (Lazarus seriously shouldn't even be in the fucking game he's as such a low point. His kit is complete counter intuitive to Stage 2's mechanics, yet they somehow are blind to this).

I'm more than likely quitting this week or next week as someone with 200 hours in the game who loved Stage 1 and 2. These balancing decisions are seriously going to make my head explode. The only way to win as hunters against high level monsters are with extremely super sweaty tryhard premades.

/end blog post that literally no one cares about
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>>149692660
Sensations of displeasure?
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>>149692890
She'd be ashamed by her lack of displeasure, hiding her face in the dirt as her hands are pinned by two large paws

>>149692807
she doesn't try to, yes
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>>149693043
no fuck off with your cuckolding fetish
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CROW OR ABE, FUN FACTOR AND GUD FACTOR

>>149693176
doing the cucking isn't such a bad thing
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Why is it so hard to find a lobby where people stay
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https://talk.turtlerockstudios.com/t/update-2-03-discussion-thread/95241/14

>this is an Executive Producer on the game
>people wonder why bad decisions are made constantly at trs
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>>149693398
whiny fags that only want to play their preferred class
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>>149693398
most people either play a certain class or just do their reward challenges

the game itself is no longer much fun with all these shit changes fucking it up every week so I only do challenges and while I'm at it I dodge shitters and shit picks
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>>149693237
They both only have stasis, which only really affect bad goliaths and bad wraiths. And bob. Poor bob. Abe is a better tracker after the first encounter, but crow is better at finding him.
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It seems in return to the split damage acid, the Gorgon's acid now has a higher burst that will instamelt you.
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>>149693468
one of the people brings up a good point in this thread, laz got even more nerfs through the dropship timer starting as soon as someone gets downed
this gives him less time to revive someone, right?
didn't think it was possible for a hunter to reach tier 5
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>support preferance
>go into lobby with 2 prefered assults, trapper and medic
>sweet i'll play support
>get monster
>check challenge
>meteor goliath
>vs parnell, cabot, caira, jack
>my monster is lvl 3, i played like 4 games as monster
>hunters 30+ with fancy shields instead of level flags
>pick new anti jetpack perks
>get domed stage 1
>down cabot, then caira
>armor is gone, lost 75% hp
>dome is down
>fuck it and unload all i have
>cabot gets up as caira dies
>down him again
>focus parnell, while jack tries to stop my traversal, leaps and charges
>down parnell
>jack runs away and i miss my pounce
>they are all back right next to us
>kill cabot since he had 2 strikes
>then goes jack and caira
>pounce parnell right next to her with 1 bar of hp
>she unloads the peashooter
>win stage 1 with 5% of the last hp bar
>it's my 1st win
Feels good.
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>Haven't won a single match as hunter today
>Won ever match as monster
come on son.
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>don't really deal with cheats or cheaters
>punish legit players anyway
>nerf nearly every hunter to shit
>in a week "our spreadsheets show that monsters have a 90% winrate vs pubs, time to nerf them all to shit and halve their hp"
>cheaters skew data some more
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holy shit Crow is fun
Really glad I got Jack out of the way
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im waiting for a fuckin pub where the players just accept their given roe and dont quit like a bitch when they dont get their preferred role.
its getting ridiculous, i have to spend more time in the lobby than playing the game itself
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DESU everybody on this fucking thread would be better at balancing than TRS. None of the hunters got nerfed, while every single one of the monsters got buffed. Next patch they're going to give everyone paintball guns and make goliath's rock homing.
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If you want to know how this game will die:

>>149694882
>start as a Monster
>immediately win few matches in a row
>get bored of stomping the kids

>start as a hunter
>immediately lose 80-90%l matches in a row
>get bored

Pretty much sum it up

This game will never had anything that would make it a prolong fun from the start.

Nothing will save it and we all know it.
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check this shit out, game from the other day rate/10 please
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>>149695186
too much damage+time
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>>149695230
>that file name
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>>149695230
WOAH THERE
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>>149695230
delete this
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>>149695013
every hunter feels like sex after Jack
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k crow is cool and all but is there any way to keep your gun from covering fucking half of your screen?
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>>149694779
Congrats anon.
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>smash a team of garbage tryhard hunters

>instantly die suddenly
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>>149695929
one of them got tired of your shit and headshot you across the map
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CAN WE ALL JUST SPAM TRS' FORUMS WITH BUFF HUNTERS PLEASE
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>>149691509
>making people lose their winstreak is important
>the fact that you lose MMR if you win a ranked isn't
>As soon as a Hunter gets incapped, the dropship timer begins counting down.
>Take a Break has been Removed
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>tfw i spend all my keys on shitty hunters yesterday and now I don't have any keys for grounder perks
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>>149696148
>making people lose their winstreak is important
Not what the purpose is. What's important is making people stop leaving lobbies when a match has been "decided", as in, people have roles they should play. Rather than leaving the players should ask the others if someone wants to swap, if not, fucking tough luck, suck it up and play a round. Might not have been the best way to do it but it's probably better than losing keys or actually having a cooldown timer before you can play again.
>the fact that you lose MMR if you win a ranked isn't
It is, TRS is just incompetent and probably don't even know why it happens. Who knows if they'll ever fix it.
>As soon as a Hunter gets incapped, the dropship timer begins counting down.
That's pretty bullshit I will admit.
>Take a Break has been Removed
People were abusing it, similar to if they don't get the role they want they'd just go idle and let the bot play, only briefly clicking back in so they don't get auto kicked.
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TRS is killing their game again, and this time they can't blame 2k
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>>149696643
They're not gonna make any fucking money, everyone's gonna be gone before the f2p 'release'. Well done, retards.
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>>149696605
>in lobby with 3 other hunters
>have a nice 12-winstreak
>one shitter, propably without any winstreaks anyway, leaves
>can't leave or lose all
>has to fight with a bot that will drag you down
masterpiece, TRS. genius
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First time I got more than 15 seconds on Kraken

He was really bad
Usually if Monster is Kraken Jack turns into little banshee mines killer biy because he is utterly useless against him
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>>149696834
>"Hey man want to jump on real quick? Someone left the team"
>"Sure just a sec"

Oh right, you have no friends.
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love wraith
fuck wraith
snuggle wraith
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>>149696969
Seems like no one has friends then because noone invites their friends when we're about to play with bots
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>>149697076
why are these threads so obsessed with wraith when CLEARLY behemoth is the superior waifu
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>>149696605
if you don't want people leaving, then you shouldn't force them to play a role they don't want.
I can totally sympathize with people that quit if the get hunter when they wanted monster or vice versa. And to a certain extent also people that wanted to play a specific hunter role and got something else.

I'll admit losing a winstreak is not a big deal, but it's just an annoying feature. I still have to download the patch and play but I'm sure TRS is retarded enough to have made that if you quit after someone else has quitted you lose your winstreak too (and if you keep playing with the bot you probably lose anyway)
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>>149696850
do the shove him into the ground meme m8
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>all those hunter nerfs

Fucking WHY
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>>149697384
TRS only listens to streamers who only play monster.
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getting stomped as monster is more depressing than getting stomped as hunters so they whine way more

also trs wants to side with streamers
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>>149696969
>Things that never happened.
Played so many matches and somehow no one ever invites friends.
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>>149697262
Because behemoth is in quarantine for space aids
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>>149697485
>trs wants to side with streamers
>not a single evolve streamer has more than 200 viewers
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>>149695186
>17 minute match
never play monster again please
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>Even more buffs to monsters.

Wtf am I reading.
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>>149697627
you're a fucking faggot. have you even SEEN the shit that behemoth's tongue can do? imagine him jacking you off with his amazing tongue, and cumming everywhere, having behemoth lick it all off of you.
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>>149694149
>'Yeah, we recognize that'll be a problem. You'll notice in the notes that Laz got a little buff to account for this. We'll watch him carefully!'

>make Laz's signature ability literally useless
>reduce his damage
>give him a bit of hp regen when cloaked

We buffed him, we swear!
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>>149697789
I had a nearly half hour match with a behemoth on orbital drill. He got to stage 3 and it basically turned into a fucking siege because he hid in the little relay room and kept walling off one side.
We somehow ended up winning with a suicidal emet and a support bucket who'd set up all his turrets in a blob somewhere off in the corner whenever we got a dome off.
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>>149698245
this image fucking sold me. wraith is a top tier waifu and I have no idea why. she's just so fucking cute.
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>>149697697
I didn't say they were smart
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>>149697789
still won nigger :)
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>>149698384
Welcome to the patrician side
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Being a pub hunter is suffering
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>Auto Dropship

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT

downing people at level 1 was a fucking nightmare, if you went ham you could MAYBE pull out a win if you were fast enough but with this it's literally going to be impossible unless people just stand together and never use their abilities
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>>149698384
>>149698897
if you cant impregnate your waifu she is automatically shit
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>>149698961
>they nerfed assault shields

I am become meguca
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>>149698961
Your best hope is playing Trapper but your assault is guaranteed to be braindead, your lazarus (you will always have a lazarus) will waste cloak before anyone is down, and your bucket won't do shit
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>>149699072
that just means more fucking ;)
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why the fuck does my game keep crashing
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>they trapped the cutie

savages
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>>149699072
>marry wraith
>fuck many times
>order an egg baby teleported from alien invasions inc.
>problem solved
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Gorgon perks?
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>>149699130
no it means your lineage ends with a degenerate nerd :^)
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>>149699072
>impregnation

Disgusting.

Also, no need for protection. Pure, untamed sex.
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>>149699323
space medicine says otherwise
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>>149699091
>your lazarus (you will always have a lazarus) will waste cloak before anyone is down
not to mention he has 5 seconds to revive the first person to go down (if he even uses his gauntlet at all)
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>>149699228
Now we can harness her sexual energy
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>>149692574
yes they did. read the patch notes you faggot.
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>>149699452
that means as a monster you only have to camp a body for 5 seconds
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>>149699368
low testosterone "man" detected. get out of the thread and let the big dogs play
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>>149699606
joy
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>>149693562
>Just won as stage 1 Meteor Goliath vs Parnell, Caira, Cabot, Jack. My monster level is 3, their character levels were 30+ with fancy shields instead of flags.
>I have like 5 games as monster.
>Feels good.

It feels good to win with the easiest monster that's nothing but pure cheese? Nice.
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>match start
>pre-math animation ends
>HUNTERS WIN

The fuck.

>find ancient login info for aprivate underground forum
>search Evolve
>find out it is a hot thread
>new cheat is out
>instant win for either monster/hunter
>HD regen for M?H
>jetpack regen
>teleport
>no cooldown
>no collissions
>one hit kill
>etc
>ask why price is 3x lower than old cheats
>hour later dude says "well I don't need to throw in 60$ to update it now"
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>>149695123
That's basically what this game is.

They had the audacity to say that they were receiving less complaint threads since they started doing changes when the immediately obvious reason was that they were down to 1/4 playerbase already.

They're dumbfucks and legitimately cannot into balancing so they deserve to have their game flop twice. It'll be a good wakeup call that it was their shit decisions the entire time.
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>>149699920
>easiest monster
>moliath

you havent played for more than a few games have you

moliath is one of the best balanced monsters. if you want easiest, thats kraken.
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>>149699485
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>>149699920
>Goliath
>fun to play as
>most fun to play against

>M. Goliath
>still fun to play I guess
>playing against it is total bullshit

What went wrong
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>>149700171
>moliath
>balanced
good one. next you'll say that hunters are OP and need to be nerfed AGAIN.
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>>149695123
They could always trying making the monsters take some skill instead of making every monster bare minimum play at 85% maximum efficiency regardless of what they do or what mistakes they make
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>about to heal revive our assault
>dropship timer ends and hes forced to respawn in the fucking sky

ok game, whatever u say
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>>149700132
>down to 1/4 playerbase
soon to be 1/5 because only monster players will remain
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>>149697479
>>149697384
Incompetence.
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>>149699368
i'm a wraithfag and impregnation is the purpose of sex, there are just complications.
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>>149700584
>mpregnation is the purpose of sex
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this thread turned from raging over hunter nerfs to a wraith thread.
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>loading into game
>Crashes
>also breaks steam
>have to do a full reinstall of steam
TOP FUCKING QUALITY GAME
SIMPLY
EBIN
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TRS are such Lazarus fanboys, that instead of maintaining a healthy game, their plan is to kill it and revive it over and over again.
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>>149700783
you failed biology? i'm sorry
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>>149700171
>>149700295
You're a fucking retard. I have two hunters at 40 and I've NEVER LOST as the Monster and I barely play it. Meteor Goliath is laughably easy. If he's you're main and it makes you feel like a cuck bitch that's just too bad.
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>>149700085
you have a russian in your game, im not surprised it was a cheat match
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>>149701167
No anon, I'm sorry you live in a world where sex without impregnation does not exist.

I truly do.
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how the fuck do you beat gorgon

really only needs 2 abilities and it's one of the strongest monsters
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>>149700884

So, like every thread then.
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>>149701403
You clearly missed the point then
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>>149701409
Don't follow it into enclosed spaces like caves where it'll destroy you.

Try and shoot the spiders before they grab someone

I dunno. Catching it in terrain favorable to you seems to be key but I feel like gorgon is ridiculously easy to win with
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>>149700584
What if the monsters are modified humans that can still breed?
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>>149701409
A. dont stand in acid
B. shoot the spider traps
C. there is no C

gorgon is fucked if your smart enough to do these two things
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>>149700085
>>149701375
recording
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>>149700884
No need to thank us for a job well done

>>149701609
Then make a wraithbabby and make sure it is happy by giving it enough siblings to play with
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>>149701562
she is easy to win with.

you only use 3 abilities (mimic is trash, never use it), meaning you can max all 3, and all 3 are ranged.
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Every game someone plays monster they act like they are hot shit because of the buffs.
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>>149701141
kek
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>>149701409
A good Gorgon vs. a good Hunter team takes forever and is boring as fuck and involves the Hunters reacting really fast to acid pools and the the Spider Mine

Anything else is a assfuck infuriating match of the Gorgon just shitting on everyone because it's designed to shit on unorganized teams. If a spider gets anyone but the Assault a good Gorgon will kill that person for free because the Spider does WAY too much damage. Needs a rebalance desu.
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>>149701507
>point out his logical error
>resort to "you've just missed the point!!11" fallacy

classy
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>>149701562
Yeah, shits easy as fuck to play.

I wish all of the Monsters were similar to Goliath as far as power goes because Goliath actually feels good to play again. Most of the others(ironically, Wraith isn't anywhere near as horse shit as Gorgon or Meteor Goliath) are just frustrating fights that feel like nonsense for 12~ minutes.
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>>149702294
you missed the point too
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>>149702173
Spiders are mostly easy to avoid if you pay attention. I'd rather have them fix the pool so that you don't need to be hundred feet in the air to avoid its damage.
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So is there even a point to use jetpack perks?
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is multiplayer fixed yet?
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Am i the only one who rage quits everytime someone picks Kraken?
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reminder to instantly dodge the following characters, in order from most important to dodge, to least important:

lazarus
kraken
jack
waggie
maggie
parnell
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>>149702294
>this nigger is seriously implying procreation isn't the purpose of sex
this generation is fucked
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>>149702294
>>149702697
The problem isn't that the purpose is sex is impregnation.
The problem is that the purpose of impregnation is abortion
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>>149702294
>You missed the point fallacy
Uhh, this is the other way around, this is calling the fallacy of irrelevant conclusions.
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>>149702585
enjoy your win streak loss ;^)
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>>149702784
why would anyone kill their own child that is disgusting anon
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>>149702934
win streaks in a game this unbalanced means nothing

its worth it to avoid these worthless hunters
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>g-guys we fixed endless searching
gj TRS, not bad
HOWEVER
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>>149702934
>having a winstreak

hey moliath
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>>149703147
Ask the russians and the blacks, god forbid i ever consider this shit
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>Enemy plays monster
>Kills team before anyone can react

>I play the same monster
>I STILL DO THE SAME SHIT BECAUSE MONSTER IS OP AND IS IMPOSSIBLE TO BE BAD WITH

:^)
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>>149702697
So you are saying you can't have sex without impregnation.

Which is wrong and we both knwoit.

Therefore you are wrong.


Feel free to prove otherwise
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>>149703408
B-BUT MUH PREMADES ARE MORE THAN 1 IN A HUNDRED ABLOO ABLOO
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>its an "Lazarus revives without his glove" episode again
I refuse to believe they are this stupid, at this point they are just trolling
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>>149703554
reading comprehension tard. I said the purpose of it was impregnation but that doesn't mean you can't have fun with it whether or not you morally agree with that, you sperg
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>>149703720
So, wait, now you are saying you can have sex without impregnation.

How many layers of retardation are you on?
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>>149703784
I'm gonna butt in just to tell you that you are a fucking idiot
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>>149703784
0 idk how i can explain it any better for a literal retard like yourself. the original purpose of sex is to make babies. nowhere in this thread did anyone say it's not possible to have sex without impregnation except yourself you absolute monkey
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>>149703784
That guy is not me, but he said basically what my point was, also you're retarded
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/evog/, you tried to tell me Parnell was bad. Why would you do this. Quake-Man does an obscene amount of damage.
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>>149703408
Yes that is the reason the playerbase bled out like it just took a .50 cal to the dick

Monster and Hunter skill curves are not even remotely close so Monsters became "good" in the amount of time it took Hunters to learn what their skills even do.

This is what they deserve for not putting the effort in to make Monsters take some skill. It would let skilled Monsters hang with premades better and it would let new Hunters not get shitstuffed to Jupiter for trying to play the game
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>>149704136
>you tried to tell me Parnell was bad
wrong. SOME idiot told that.
Parnell is a solid pick and I'm happy to see him as Assault after Markov and Punch'ma
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>Torvald saying he is op
>When he could barely dent the monster armor and we only won due to the timer running out.
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>>149704415
in his defense it can be tough to do good damage as torvald on certain monsters as they are tough to hit with the mortar
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>>149703878
>>149703916
>>149704081
>logically prove he is wrong
>no actual arguments against
>resort to insults and ad homines
kek
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>>149704552
his real dmg comes from shrapnel'nade + shotgun combo
mortars are just a nice to have while you reload. dont know how he is in this patch, they made him a bit better with his barrage
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[Tier list update]

- JACK moved up: his scanning is much better now, and if he is played well becomes a straight nightmare for many monsters

- CAIRA moved down: by the simple virtue of not being Val

- MARKOV moved up: due to Blitzkov's nerfs, he is not that much different in dishing out consistent damage, and he has more range

- ELECTRO GRIFFIN added to Tier 3
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discord for anyone who wants to team up and get dced before the match starts or talk about how shit the patch is etc

https://discord.gg/DSYW8Ae
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>On the first Dropship spawn when a Hunt match begins, the Hunters will spawn with the Damage Resistance buff for a short amount of time.

>We noticed a lot of Monsters trying to engage
right off the first dropship spawn, so this new feature will prevent Monsters killing Hunters as they land off the dropship.

Holy shit, imagine reading this if you were new to the game.
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>>149704735
there is no non-refuted logic to be found kiddo
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Listen im not going to defend the Wraith, because its clearly retarded, but holy shit its so damn slow.

When I play, I have a hard as fuck time catching hunters in combat. I suck so thats nothing to take too seriously, but I have also had some laughable games as hunter where the wraith literally couldnt escape and we just followed it and slowly killed it.
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Does Mutated Claw and Evolved Claw stack on monsters? I'm wanted to cheese and be a cocksucker with Monsters this patch since they keep buffing them when they were already easy as shit.

Same with the new anti-jetpack perks, does all of the damage stack from those?

I want to hit people and have them get downed when I didn't deserve it. This is important.
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>>149704768
how was his scan changed?
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>>149704846
I had a lovely game as Griffin when i was on the Wraith tail since the first dome and for the rest of the game, getting boosted by Sunny and harpooning it constantly, it couldnt even evolve to stage 2
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>>149704768
nice changes, now include them
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>>149704768
Seems pretty accurate Imo, can't wait to see how retards will try meme their fav picks higher or their hated picks lower.
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What is the hidden variation reveal?
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>>149704831
>Having to buff hunters because they were having trouble not dying in 2 seconds
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>>149705124
if you get an npc monster it has a chance to pick a new monster that will be added soon
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>>149705087
Oh i bet you harpooned and prodded it.
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>>149705107
i still think people aren't giving emet enough credit
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>>149704768
Fuck right off m8
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>>149705287
Of course, I saw a lot of wiggling that game
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>>149705315
Wait you I remember you, are you the guy who wanted emet to have his own tier?
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>>149704768
>Laz not at Tier 5: Lazarus
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>>149705483
no....but i do like emet and believe he should be moved to fine tier

ive found that his beacons force the monster to stop and smack them, which is less time hes smacking your teammates, and you can constantly shit them down. with a shield support like hank, tech hank or bucket on your team you can easily outpace the monsters damage with beacon healing + bursts, and he does very good damage for a medic character
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>>149704768

this >>149705567
and this >>149705567
oh, and also this >>149705567
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>>149704768
Sunny and RVal needs moving down to Tier 2
Laz to Tier 5
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>>149704768
>sunny still that high
>moving jack up because of his tracking ability when his cc got nerfed
>moving markov up because bmarkov got nerfed
stop posting anytime
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>New hack allows the hunter/monster to kill the players instantly at the beggining.
>They're literally not even playing the game anymore, just sitting in the menu winning.

But why. What do they gain from this?
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LAZ BTFO
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>>149705694
I agree with you in all honestly I think if his team uses his healing buoys he's a great healer.
You might be able to convince tier list anon, only real problem with emet is how much he heals correlates to how much his team don't just ignore the healing buoys.
Is he as good as caira? Probably not if only because caira can shoot her grenades at mobile hunters and they both suffer from the same issues of finding it hard to heal air borne targets.
But you are right he's fine.
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>They nerfed Hunters and buffed Monsters
>Again
I don't understand.
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>>149705371
>wiggling
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>>149706076
taking this game down with no survivors
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>>149706212
the banter of the week 1 rotation characters is top notch
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>>149706356
I'd
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>>149705315
He is pretty decent I usually just spam my buoys with the monster chasing me and spam heal since I use class ability reduction even if they do kill my someone I just fuck the monster over with beacon since most don't even know how he works.
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>>149706354

Premade hunter groups are recking monsters while pugs will always be pugs.
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>>149706356
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>>149705107
Jack
Tracker Drone
Scan Radius Max 130 from 100m
Scan seconds reduced to 9 from 14
Beams increased to 3 from 2

It's much faster now, with bigger range and an extra beam. If the even if you don't catch the monster in the range, it's gonna show his last tracks pretty quickly which helps a lot. The change was made back at the Electro Griffin patch.

>>149705315
>>149705694
>>149706350
>>149706938
I've played a lot with an founder guy with 300 hours who mostly played Emet when he was medic. He played him to the absolute best of his ability, with 25% cooldown reduction on the burst to be more of a medic, but if the support was getting focused hard and was attempting to juke all over the dome, he couldn't do much to save him.

If Emet is played at his best, I could allow him to move up a tier, but that's is very very rarely the case. He's actually more of a factor at late game relay fights due to his beacon, but you really want to finish the game before that happens.

I do not want anyone to get the impression from seeing the list that buying, and playing Emet is a good idea for anyone involved.

>>149705567
>>149705853
I'm in agreement on Laz, but I'd rather not bloat the image with a new tier for the sake of memes.

>>149705968
I feel like even post all the nerfs Sunny is still deserving of her place in Tier 1. She still saves everyone's ass with JPB and her Drone NEEDS to be focused.

Haven't had a chance to play with Rouge Val since last patch so I don't really know the extent of the nerfs. I'll move her down for now, any anons here who played her pre-patch and post-patch please post your experiences.

>>149706025
I think Sunny is still preforming well due to the nature of her kit, even though her numbers took a decent hit. Jack's repulsor recharge going from 4 seconds to 5 doesn't suddenly make it shit. You're right on Markov though, just gonna swap him out with Blitz now.
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>>149707283
This doesn't seem to be the case, It's more like "level 50 premade groups picking exclusively tier 1 hunters recking monsters"
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>>149707371
Sure is a shitton of excellent trackers, there ought to be at least one for each tier imo
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>>149707371
>memes
It ain't "memes"

He's literally fundamentally broken now and does not perform as intended. He's the first Tier 5.
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>>149705008
the poison skills stack so I'd assume the new antijetpack ones do too. Quite frankly I regret buying the gold poison claws because the new skills sound outright better
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>>149707446

So, premade groups are recking monsters, as I said? Ok.
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>>149707891
>Meanwhile casuals who premade with their tier 3 and 4 picking friends get rekt even harder because they don't get the hidden bonuses from pubbing

Stop posting Insane.
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>>149707371
>I do not want anyone to get the impression from seeing the list that buying, and playing Emet is a good idea for anyone involved.

Doing gods work tier anon, Once again thank you.
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>>149695186
>He actually maxed fire breath
>And didn't get Rock Throw

Anon please
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>Damage Reduction Spawn Buff on First Dropship

I'm rustled. This was a legit strategy. It was high risk high reward, and now they made the game even more linear. Fucking retards.
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>>149707371
I played Tech Hank and Bucket and think the robot is better
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Okay, well done I guess. They've lost me and my friend group. Just more statistics to add onto the hemorrhaging playerbase graph.

None of my friends are super amazing gamers but it was still fun to work as a team and I could carry them with good Assault or Medic play, but honestly it went from being annoying and almost not-fun against certain monsters to "why are we even playing this". Hunter nerfs and Monster Buffs in the exact same patch was honestly just disappointing. It actually made me feel bad for them.

Lost 7 matches in a row today against 6 Meteor Goliaths and one Kraken, there's no point anymore. I hope they enjoy their 200 player peaks again.

I'll look at the next patch notes and if they aren't a huge improvement it's dead to me.
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>>149706356
holy kek how did no one find this still yet
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>>149708191
Bitch a level 1 Monster that isn't Goliath is way stronger than the Hunters, AND it gets to AoE 3-4 of them to start the fight. Yeah just fuck off.
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>>149708168
rock throw SUCKS you have to stay dynamic on the battlefield anon and standing still for 3 seconds to throw a rock is not dynamic
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>>149708218
why?
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>>149708590

You're undeniably shit if you lose to a monster at level one. Deal with it kid.
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ahahah what did they do?

buffs to monsters, and nerfs to hunters in the same patch? it's like they want to drive away the shit-tier casual playerbase they tried to pull in with f2p

TRS has no clue whatsoever how to approach this game, I knew back in beta it'd flop on release, and as soon as I heard it going f2p I knew it wouldn't last but a month. It's so sad because of the potential the game mechanics had.
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>>149708783
Techno Hank = just some extra health before a fight

Hank or Bucket = critical shielding when it's needed
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>>149708519
...what
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>>149708809
>What are 3 other people on the team
>What are massive monster buffs
>What is mashing skills as not-Goliath and winning for free

You play Monster only or something? Some of us play both and the Monsters are dogshit easy to win with in comparison. Fuckin' lol.
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>>149707573
Direct that at TRS though, not me. I don't think there's ever going to be a Tier 4 tracker because pressing 4 while your team has common sense to cut off the monster's route and not get sneak-juked is all you need.

>>149708218
Bucket has more self-sustain, and when doing well coordinated resets, may as well be on the level of Tech Hank. I would not put him above in his current state however.

>>149708049
Always a pleasure, my man.
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>>149704768

Bucket needs to be moved to T2, because Bucket + Rval is straight up retardedly over powered shit.
He's still trash with anyone else, but why would you pick anyone else?
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>play as a Jack
>support is kala
>Goliath instantly targets you COMPLETELY ignoring any other hunter
>every dome every encounter
>he has ground perk
>even with repulsor can't dodge can't do shit and die
>medic whines "but can't you dodge I can't heal you 24/7"
>mfw
How come someone reached lvl50 and still a noob
HOW
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>>149708702
I used to think Rock Throw was trash but now I can't live without it, I used to use the same build >>149695186
did but I realised against well coordinated teams I didn't have enough burst, and rock throw is low cool down, high damage and you can get away with putting just 1 point in it. It really is one of Goliaths best abilities and hasn't failed me yet.


At 125 wins now with a 30 winstreak
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>>149709150
She looks startled like a little girl
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Do you guys seriously not know about EMET + bucket right now?
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>>149709568
.......
what
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>>149709501
protip, hold down 1 until to delay throwing to bait their jetpack dodge
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>>149709501
ok sensei i will try it what are the good perks?
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>>149709647
...............
what?
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>>149709586
enlighten us
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>>149709586
are they gay robo lovers or what?
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>>149709786
>>149709815
Holy shit

I really don't even think I should say; it should be obvious, but it's obviously not "working as intended".

It's worse than rval + bucket though, hands down, no debate.
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>>149709409
My tier list is specifically aimed at non-combo team comps, where the weight of each individual hunter is judged alone. Some may be elevated when paired with others, which is often the case with Bucket. The cooldown on the reset is still pretty fucking long though.
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>>149709167

Spoken like a true shitter. You wouldn't know balance if it fucked you in the ass.
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>tfw Torvald is still shit

Come the fuck on.
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>>149709919
ok then shut up about it
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>>149710116
I guess the mortar changes didn't do shit for him?
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>>149709702
I run with Hunger 3 Mutated + Evolved Claw.
But from what I've heard of pro players they'll do climb speed traversal regen and Damage resistance / Evolved Claw / CD reduction.

Just do what fits your play style.
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>>149709586
They don't like each other I don't see what you mean?
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>>149709919
im guessing hes talking about shitting down a respawn beacon, then bucket using recharge, then shitting down another one somewhere else
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>>149710168
the changes help but it wont save noobs to think ahead
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>do 9k damage with Bucket
>We lose to stage 2 gorgon
>only 1 bar of health missing

bravo Torvold. bravo.
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>>149710150
>>149710272
>can't think for yourself

>>149710284
No, it's the only other option of synergy between them.

Bucket's recharge allows you to heal burst more than five times in a row as EMET, healing anybody near you completely to full. You can almost res yourself from being downed with it.
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>>149710347

They just need to increase projectile speed now. Way too fucking slow.
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>>149710465
Sorry I am so used to people talking about stupid shipping I didn't think people would actually talk about the game for once. You could have worded in a better way.
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>>149710637
You have grown tainted.
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Think the next patch will bring some balance that's not just more nerfing? I really, really hope so. I spent money on this game and want to keep playing it because I greatly enjoy it.
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I'm just going to do this until they get their heads out of their asses and balance better.

I haven't lost yet and I have almost no perks unlocked for monster. You can do this with everything but Goliath, so hop on the bandwagon and hopefully at some point they'll realize they have no Hunter players left because the game feels like shit to play.

And if you're a thug you can probably engage hard mode and actually play normal Goliath
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>>149711458
be active
use official forums
tell TRS to calm their titts and dont change everything some shitter suggests who didn't hear about this game 2 weeks ago
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>>149702585
>parnell
why would you dodge him? Replace that with torvald.
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>>149710454
you act like he picked torvald and didn't want to lose
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>laz getting one smallish buff
>in exchange for damage nerf AND drophsip change

HOW THE FUCK DID THEY MANAGE TO MAKE HIS GIMMICK EVEN MORE USELESS, HOW IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE
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>mfw seeing assaults get focused down through their shields

TRS you can't be fucking serious
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>>149711638
>>149711843
you guys realized that torvald only does 10% less damage per shotgun shot than parnell right? with a permanently faster fire rates, tighter spread, faster reload, and free weakpoints from his shrapnel mine.

biggest difference being that torvalds chase damage is shittier than parnells, but mortars chip out armor faster than super soldier does.

They're pretty much same tier but parnell is better on chase and torvald is better in dome.
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>>149702585
>Parnell
Top tier assault right here. Why dodge?

>Kraken
I don't play monster so you're going to have to explain this to me.
Speaking from a hunter's perspective, Kraken can either be annoying or outright repetitive to fight.
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>>149706529
>>149706356
>>149705287
>>149707343
Fucking scalies. How could anyone get off to the idea of removing a wraith's armor and licking her massive body all over, nibbling her neck and kissing her long tentacles? Only another monster would think about her cute mouth and tongue wrapped around a thick cock slick with her saliva, pumping in and out of her mouth until it erupts, the cum more than enough for her to reach stage 3.
The idea of thick viscous semen overflowing, dribbling down her jaw over her busty chest, her big claws scooping it all up and watching her suck it off is just horrible. You're all a bunch of sick perverts, thinking of spreading her smooth veiny thighs, cock poised at the entrance to her pure, tight, virginal pussy, and thrusting in deep as a whimper escapes her teeth which are slippery with cum, while her large body shudders from having her cherry taken in one quick stroke.
It is truly nasty how you'd run your hands all over her body while you violate her, feeling her breast ridges hardening against your tongue as you lick her chest and her neck, savoring the scent of her skin and sweat while she trembles from the stimulation and as she reaches her climax, hearing her cry out softly as she has her first orgasm while that cock is buried deep inside her, pulsing violently as an intense amount of hot cum spurts forth and floods through her freshly-deflowered pussy for the first time, filling her womb only to spill out of her with a sickening squelch. And as you lie atop her flushed body, she sighs breathlessly and her claws dig into your back as she feels your cock hardening inside her again.
You're all sick in the head.
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>>149712092
Parnell is a garbage assault. Even torvald is better and torvald is shit.

also when i said dodge kraken i mean dodge him if your playing against him

hes easily the most OP and cancerous monster to fight against
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>>149712118
can you at least post another evolve porn?
I already fapped to this one today
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>>149712118
DELETE THIS
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>monster only need 1 fucked up from hunters to win
>hunters have to fight monster in at least 3 domes to win
This is the reason why the game is fucked. I was caught with my pants down while evolving as elder kraken. Managed to escape with 1.5 bar of health. Still won at the next dome fight simply because the medic fucked up once and died. Their team simply collapsed right after.
It was my 5th time playing as EK. I literally just spammed skills on cooldown and hoped they failed to jetpack away from the huge AoE.
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>>149711468
What the fuck happened there?
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>>149712290
this. its getting old
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>>149712118
I am sure Laz could repair if he just learn to use his fucking gauntlet.
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>>149712752
The gaunlet only affects the brain, Lennox states the functionality
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Aight got 20k to spend tell me the perks to make Wraith as infuriating and unfun to play against as possible.

>>149712608
I had to screen the text and it was going to fade. So it's a screen before the damage scrolled up because the text was kind of the point of the post. I'm just spreading the word to the hunters every time I shit on them that's its nothing personal the game just left me with no choice but to abuse Monsters over and over.
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Parnell is considered the most consistent damage dealer by competitive level players.

The reason you think he's bad is because he actually requires aim, which neither you nor any of the shitters you are grouped with have. There's a reason he's been nerfed multiple times and is still used at a top level.
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>>149712804
>get ripped to shreds by monster
>it only affects the brain
>'Y-you're a dick, Lazarus.'
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>>149712814
>perks
hunger/traversal, hunger/traversal, speed
or
grounding, grounding, grounding
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>>149712260
Spotted the shitter, krakens are easy, and this comes from someone who loves Parnell.
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>>149712840
>requires aim
>shotgun with huge spread
>rocket launcher with big aoe

i dont think so, tim
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I know I vowed not to do monster tiers again, but just humor me for a second. How accurate is this?

I know /evog/ has a bunch of Monster players.
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>>149712943
>Monster and Lazarus become bros
>Monster rapes Caira so hard and destroys her to the point she breaks and passes out/dies
>Lazarus revives and monster can continue indefinitely
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>>149713104
>Lazarus fapps with glove
must feel amazing
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>>149713027
not that accurate.

keep wraith and gorgon in fantastic

move moliath to decent

move goliath to bully me

move bob to his own bob tier
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>>149713027
Behemoth is Tier 2 due to the current food source exploit he can do on all maps except wraith trap.
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>>149713027
tier 1 - kelder / meteor
tier 2 - kraken gorgon
tier 3 - goliath
tier 4 - wraith behemoth

this is the official "hunter team that isn't retarded" edition
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>>149712254
Anon, please.
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>>149712260
i do 30k damage with parnell average each game
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>>149712000
I can't comprehend why they did that

not invulnerability was already stupid
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>>149713027
I dont have Behemoth so I can't really say anything about his ranking. From 5 times I ever saw him, he fucked us 4 times royally.
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>>149713295
shitter detected
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>>149713027
>Molten Goliath not tier 1

Yeah fuck off
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>>149713415
Please explain to me why you think that?

Wraith is the only noobkiller monster, and kelder is absolute top tier right now. Please share with everybody your opinions.
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>>149712254
>the cum more than enough for her to reach stage 3.
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>>149713380
i do that with fucking emets replay cannon alone

i do over twice that as any other assault, especially blitz
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>>149713416
meant to reply to
>>149713250
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>back under 1k viewers on twitch
i knew the game was going to die again, but already? TRS is more incompetent than i ever thought
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>Monster on a big winning streak
>He can't out damage my heals
>He just stands there then disconnects once he realizes he is fucked.
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>>149712061
And yet Parnell is better because its so easy to land rockets.
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>>149712254
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>>149713539
No you do not. Doing anything over 30k a game is absolutely obscene and not possible on anything but assault.

EMET's relay can maybe touch 10k in a game that wears out the entire timer.

Lying on the internet does nothing but make you look like a liar.
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>>149712814
If you're going for maximum cancer PLEASE just max out traversal as high as you can
Run back and forth in the dome for 5 straight minutes while the hunters run back and forth not being able to touch you. Also make sure to put 3 points in decoy for maximum annoying
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>>149713667
hello Rogue Val
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>>149713027
Accurate except Goliath is 100% tier 4 and Wraith is tier 3(or 2.5, to be more accurate).

Wraith just shits on new players but even mid level pubs get used to her. Goliath is hot asshole and is literally just a shitty Meteor.
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Remove grounder from the fucking game. Its a better enhanced claw and that was already OP.
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>>149713806
rogue val has shit heals

it is obviously either val, caira, or emet

most likely caira
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Going to pick up either Griff or EGriff. Is EGriff worth the extra 2500 keys?
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>>149713806
I just trashed a Rogue Val as Wraith, once she pops her 4 she's just dead. No more regen, no more instant full health.

If she has a Bucket on her team just kill the Bucket. She can't outheal damage for shit when they're out of her regen zone and you're guaranteed to make the person you're chimping on move far enough away at some point.

Not that Rogue Val can heal for shit anyway.
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>>149713962
he's fun, and with all the nerfs to regular griffs harpoons he's a solid pick. Regular griffin is still better overall, but electro is definitely in the solid category.
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>>149713962
No, he's poo >>149707371
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>>149713624
>tfw enjoying twitch more than playing the actual game
I hope TRS get their shit together in time
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>>149713485
kelder is NOWHERE near top tier right now. no one besides the most retard of hunters will let chain lightning bounce off multiple hunters, hes as slow as regular kraken and yet has no ranged attack while flying, his lightning strike cant be aimed while channeling like krakens can, and death spiral is a dot rather than frontload damage meaning people will immediately get out of it.

he is entirely worse in every single way than regular kraken

wraith is able to put more pressure on a single target than any other monster outside an animation cancelling goliath, and has the mobility that goliath lacks. all it requires is that you target your decoy correctly; it always chases the closest hunter, but she is crippled by VERY low armor and hp, and abduction is of limited usefulness

goliath is the hardest monster to play well due to how underpowered he is compared to other monsters. by the same token, he is the most satisfying to win with. despite this, moliath is 100% better than goliath. moliath has better mobility (his transversal goes farther and recharges quicker), and his ability dots put pressure on the entire enemy team

behemoth is straight up unplayable unless you sit in a cavern and abuse food respawn exploit

actually accurate tier list:
tier 1: kraken
tier 2: gorgon, moliath
tier 3: wraith
tier 4: elder kraken, goliath
tier 5: behemoth
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>>149714209
The reason for that is the sincere niche of the game / community. The actual good players are streaming.
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>losing at 0:00 dropship respawn

joy
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>>149714269
I see you don't play at a very high level.
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>Have a really close game as Monster
>Just barely lose because they split up and had me domed 90% of the match
>Killed their trapper 3 times and everyone but medic had 2 strikes

Even though im angry I lost, Im happy knowing I gave the hunters a fun match and maybe made them like the game a bit more :))))
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>>149714317
maybe. I enjoy good teamwork and nice tactics and when I feel motivated enough to give the game a try again I only encounter E-reviving Lazs or Markovs who never use mines
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>>149713806
Actually I was emet not Rval
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>>149714678
silver+gold classability colldown reduction?
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>>149714457
im max account lvl and play against other max account levels; most of the time premades since i tend to play monster and i can hear them talking over voice before and after the match

projecting much?
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When is the next pro tournament or whatever for this game?

I really wanna see what the "pros" use
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FFS why does steam not have a warning when the servers are about to go down.
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>>149715093
ill spoil it for you

hunter teams will be as follows:
blitz markov
griffin
hank
val

all monster players will be either kraken or gorgon
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>>149714982
Yes but I need to max our silver but still did well enough regardless. As for my bronze I took fuel efficiency but sometimes I am not sure if its that great.
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>>149715328
Val/Hank is just so fucking good. Just so much healing/shielding, the only thing you can do is try to stick on one of them, but then Griffin harpoons your ass, so now you need to stick on one of them while breaking harpoons and avoiding mines from Markov and by the time you've pathed around the mine and broken the harpoon (again), Hank's/Val's shield/heal is back up.
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>play monster
>fight against team who seems to follow me wherever I go.
>constantly slowed
>Get domed 3 times at stage 1
>Finally get far away from them and evolve.
>assault domes me from out of nowhere.
>die
Holy shit this is the first time I've had my ass kicked this hard since stage 2 release.
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>>149715595
it really is the strongest hunter lineup, absolutely cancerous to fight against
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>>149715680
winter map?
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I literally can't launch the game anymore

what the fuck did they do
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God dammit this is the 2nd time today evolving on distillery has bugged my game making me unable to do anything. Once as elder kraken and again as wraith.
JUST FUC MY GAME UP SENPAI
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>>149715859
winter map is the worst map to monster on. its the smallest, most open map with a terrible feeding route that will take you across hunters paths multiple times
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>>149715328
I think regular Markov will be used more due to range changes. As for the monsters I imagine it'll be only meter and krakens. Gorgon hasn't really gotten any new tools while the former two got huge buffs and already they were the only things used in the last tournament
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>>149714269

>abduction is of limited usefulness

Nigger wat.
It's your bread and butter. You NEED abduction.
Wraith's survivability comes from her constant mobility, you can fly up into the sky, abduct fuckers and then combo them on the way back down. If you end up in a bad position you can fuck off, abduct a hunter to your location and keep the fight going while getting out of dodge.
When you're being chased you can set up a trap for a slightly over-extended hunter, and make them EXTREMELY over-extended, which can sometimes be a guaranteed down.
Wraith is fucking great, and her abducting is the tits.
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>>149715859
The map with the big hole in the middle with the giant pillar in the middle of it.
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>>149715869
Probably u got soft-banned for alt f4ing lel
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>>149716120
I've never done that, I just keep crashing whenever I try to start the game now
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>>149716120
>You are defeated
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>>149716394
>it stays like that
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welp I guess I need to reinstall the game because I can't get past the splash screen without crashing
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>>149716549
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>>149712000
>>149713403

The idea of the shield isn't to make you impossible to focus, it's to temporarily allow you to survive being focused more than anyone else.

Which it does fine, and if your team cannot peel in that time then gg, the Hunters have fucked up somewhere.
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>>149716704
It was fun lads, everyone go home, don't log back in.
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>>149714457
I'm inclined to agree with >>149714269 with the sole exception of Gorgon. Still yet to have significant trouble against her at higher levels.

I'm gonna go sleep and let you guys shitpost about this overnight. If the majority agrees I'll slap this together with the hunter tier list.
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>>149716394
>>149716704
>We only lost 2.5k players
Wewlad
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>>149717442
>lost
people dont have to log in every day, esp not during the week
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HAHAHAAHAAH you lose the win streak even after you leave the lobby after a match what a fucking joke this """""""""""""""""game"""""""""""""""" is
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Is there really ever a reason to charge Crow's shots, unless maybe stage 3 and theres alot of time left, to make it so the monster cant run away and come back over and over, or if you can basically solo the monsters remaining tiny health pool before the dome is over?

It seems like the damage you do isnt worth
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>tfw beat a shitty female streamer with my Griffin and 3 bots
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>taking pride in unorganized pubstomp as a Monster

Oh jesus, how insecure you have to be of your skill haha
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>>149719305
Who was the streamer?
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>>149719487
"aimbot" or something like that
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>>149719305
How do you find and join streamers?
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>>149719305
you need to get laid, nerd cis shitlord
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>>149719631
I could be laid by now but my heart belongs to Wraith
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>Every Twitch streamer has title "Pro Monster player"
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>>149719305
>gets a pity win from a nice girl
>gloats about it on /vg/ while implying she's bad because she has no penis

you're a terrible person
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>>149718807
you use them outside the dome for free health chip damage, and you use it if he commits to a fight before a dome is dropped.
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Is it me or has this patch brought out the ridiculously tryhard teams? It's literally Griffin/Abe/Hank EVERY GAME.
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>>149719975
I need the (you)s
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>>149719934
>"""""pro""""" monster player
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>>149720090
that's all there is left to fucking play.
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>>149720090
>>149720243
any other combination of hunters has been nerfed to the point that there's no reason to bother.
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>Barely ever played monster
>Win every time apart from when I had a black screen
How the fuck do I win in pub matches as hunter?
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>>149720090
Abe isn't tryhard Egriffin is
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Is there a hunter that can revive people while invisible or something? I had a game just now where I killed everyone so many times and they all had 2 strikes, but somehow they would keep coming back to life seemingly with no one around them or anything.
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>>149719934
>>149720198
>pub stomping on twitch
>it always Monster
>it is NEVER hunter
kek
you can see why
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>>149720439
How do you not know.
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>>149720368
Get lucky and find 3 other people that aren't completely braindead and actually know how to play their role and don't shitpick.
Then you've got a slight chance.
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>>149719975
>gets a pity win from a nice girl
Bitch has 10+ winstreak and was gloating about it
She got what she deserved because if you lose as a Monster in the pub it just lowest opf the low
the most pathetic
deserves to be laughed upon
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>>149719537
>>149719487
aimybot
she is fucking horrible
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>>149720657
>She
That's a given.
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I thought somebody was hacking when I saw those white shields when going down the dropship at the start.

Also, I like playing Abe. Nerfs coming when?
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>>149720915
are there even good female gamer? I mean not just Evolve
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>>149721010
Nerfs soon, friend. Don't worry. Monsters get shit on by the top 1% so that means they're very weak and need more buffs along with more blanket nerfs for hunters.
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>>149721136

Agreed, we should buff Kraken again.
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>>149721010
I also like playing Abe so probably next patch
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>>149721010
Abe is just fine
one of the few hunters who are not too OP but are still fun to play
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>>149721074
There are some Asians but talking about actual humans, no
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>>149721074
No, there are no good female gamers.

Not only are their nervous systems not correct for games, they don't have the competitive drive.
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>>149721241
Your hate speech clearly demonstrates that Abe needs to be nerfed, see you next patch
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speaking of mods
I saw this cute map after the match with recorded baths and deaths and I thinks its really nice to watch
is it some kind of mod?
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>>149720657
>aimybot
>this is a pro player
How?
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>>149721387
>Males are pink
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>losing as a Monster in the pub
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>>149721564
forgot pic
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>>149721797
not available anymore
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>>149721519
You fucking messed with the wrong motherfucker, motherfucker.
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>>149721797

You used to see this after every game, it'd come after your performance sheets.
Now for some reason you only get 30 seconds in the post game and it rarely plays. I'm not sure what stops it from playing.
Just another example of TRS's terrible development. For every thing they fix they'll break 5 more.
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>>149720524
What
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>>149698209
how do i unlock behemoth
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>>149721907
Thanks for reminding me, we'll be cutting some of the more offensive dialogue as well
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Is there a list of the sign in rewards anywhere?
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>>149722596

You can't.
He's locked for another 3 weeks while they rebalance him.
You're pretty mech guaranteed to lose against any competent team anyway.
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>>149722734
unless you exploit the infinite spawning wildlife in caves.
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>>149720090
>Val/Hank/Egriffin
Well, I'm done, you won TRS.
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>>149721701
twitch automatically means le pro nowadays
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how the FUCK do you deal with a Lazarus
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dodge the game if you're hunter, stage 1 win if monster
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>>149723158
you hit him until he dies
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>>149723158
Camp downed hunters and he becomes useless.

Once they are read (white skull) eat their corpse so lazarus can't revive them.
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>>149723158
>how the FUCK do you deal with a Lazarus
what do you mean? where is the problem?
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>>149723115
No, I mean sponsored by an organization kind of "pro" in this case.
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>>149723158
>Can't spot stealthed Laz
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So just throwing around ideas on how to rework Laz

I feel like making it so you can just use his gloves to remove strikes (separate from the incap and down mechanics) would be interesting. On use it removes one strike from a hunter and puts it on a fuck long cooldown.

This way you dont get fucked over totally by the new dropship mechanic. The balance would be finding a proper cooldown for it.

>>149720090
Griffin is the most effective against all the monsters. Other trappers are decent against only certain monsters. In blind picks, Griffin is the most reliable.

Same with Hank. In pubs he's just a solid pick because he brings so much survivability.

Cabot got nerfed. Kala requires too much coordination and is overall weak. Sunny got nerfed (still decent I feel). Tech Hank is OK. Bucket depends on the team comp.

Not much to pick.
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>>149723351
he is literally the only thing in the game I have an issue with
the fact that health strikes aren't a thing when he's in the game
>>149723351
so when lazarus is in the game, there is no point of trying to down hunters for an easier final battle? if I'm not mistaken after you down someone once and they get revived, the second time you down them they get instantly put into the plane no? so it makes sense to down individual people to get an easy fight in the end
but not with lazarus
with lazarus you just hope to be strong enough to kill everyone at the same time?
what's the point of eating the corpse if this resets the health strikes (getting placed into the drop ship and restarting the whole down them one by one process)
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>>149723832
Laz will never be good with his current kit. He would have to be completely re-designed from scratch with entirely different abilities.
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>>149723832
>I feel like making it so you can just use his gloves to remove strikes (separate from the incap and down mechanics) would be interesting. On use it removes one strike from a hunter and puts it on a fuck long cooldown.
not a bad idea

let him just remove two strikes with normal cooldown. after HE got once strike, he only can maintain one strike removal and non at all after HE got two strikes
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>>149723609
spotting is not my issue with him, that's fucking easy.
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>>149723832
Lol I didnt even think about the new dropship mechanics in relation to Laz.

Literally every new thing they implement into the game inadvertently fucks Laz into utter uselessness.
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>>149723341
>read

I meant dead
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>>149724027
Okay bud, when you play against a Laz, down the support.
Support is easiest to kill in most cases, sometimes Trapper.

Just fucking down them and run away.
Once you're stage 3, a Laz team literally cant beat you. Someone WILL get downed, and you should have enough health to be able to body camp everyone and win.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10842788
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whats better on Hank: capacity or reload? maybe a solid mix?
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>>149724608
Both are good
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>>149722667
I get kraken in 2 days so I'm happy about that
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>>149724764
>Free Goliath
>Free Kraken
>Free Wraith for some reason I dont understand
>Bought Gorgon with all the free keys
All these easy monsters that I'll never play because I'm a shitter and I just want Behemoth
How much you want to bet that TRS will reset accounts if this ever gets out of beta
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>>149704768
High level player here, these are the fixes needed for the chart :
ASSAULT : Move Parnell to Tier1, he is an absolute beast, move Torvald to Tier 1 since new patch (only tier 1 for a veteran player), drop blitz markov to tier 2 (range nerf is really huge).

Trapper : move both T3 trappers to t2, none of them are "not good", they are fine.

Medic : Move caira to tier 1, Slim to tier 3 (he needs a hank and he's pretty good)

Supports : Move bucket to Tier 2 (he does wonders in some comps with rogue val), Cabot to Tier 1 or 2 (he is the best support against wraith right now, spoken from somebody that scrims against the world's best wraith every night), and move sunny down to tier 3 as she got really fucked this patch (not sure if Tier 2 or 3 for her).
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>>149691823
>No improvements to anti-cheat
Dead.
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>>149725335
[citation needed]
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>be monster main
>noob retards say monster is just ez
>pick torvald assault
>land every mortar
>rape wraith
>continue my next 3 games as assault to add to my 24 win streak
>lose win streak cus i didnt wanna play medic and wanted monster next game
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>Play a game as parnell
>At the end the monster complements me on the amount of damage I did
Mother fucker is rip and tear.
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>>149725557
Look in the /evog/ steam group you'll find me i'll be in the chat.
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Loadouts when. Literally no reason to click through three perk screens every damn time.
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>>149692883
>>149694882
>>149695123
>>149700132
>>149700431
>>149697697
>>149697876
>>149698045
Don't WORRY guys, hunter nerfs are incoming soon.
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the player counter unfucked itself, but...
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>>149726495
Hi, TRS here, there still seems to be players playing our game, don't worry next week we will fix that with some more hunter nerfs
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>>149726159
>>149725335
Nobody really cares about shitty opinions

For pubs their chart is correct
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>>149726301
>shilling for f2p game
>posting photoshopped chart
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Hi
Graphfag here
I'm just basking in my glory and polishing my "I told you so" final post.

Oh, shit's gonna be gut

>these little dumb retards tried to argue with me
kek
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>>149726495
>>149727027
>>149726301
why do you people care so much?
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>>149705057
the UI changed. So hunters that don't play jack know what is going on
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>>149724185
Yep. Its really fucking shit even without Laz. Mainly at Stage 1 fights.

>Monsters no longer have to commit to body camping for as long
>Faster to pick me up off the ground instead of spawning in the dropship without a choice and possibly spawning far away from the group.

I mainly hate how it straight up takes away control from me. Sometimes its really good to stay incapped and let someone pick you up while others deal damage.

>>149725335
>Torvald
>Tier 1
Other ones seem OK or debateable. Torvalds mortars still travel super slow and his shotgun doesnt make up for it. I rather have Markov just holding M1 and doing a solid chunk of damage (and mines that guarantee more solid zoning for you teammates) than the small chance that a Torvald will land his mortars.

I'd argue Sunny is still good. JPB is still fine and really the best survivability atm is dodging. The drone still demands attention, Sunny just can't spam it anymore, making the trade-off for killing the drone and taking damage in the process less hurtful.
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>>149727150
your life seriously boils down to posting bait on an anonymous internet forum? what a pathetic young man
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>>149727150
Argue what? Anyone who wasn't completely braindead knew this game would be dead within a month with lots of help from TRS going full retard as they've been known to do.
Hope they "release" quick, or they're gonna make exactly dick.
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>just lost to a laz team because I didnt realize there was a Laz

I even got to stage 3 but the fucker had every rocket perk and was either floating in the air, or stealthed when I found out he existed.
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>>149727150
imagine living such a sad life that you literally look at evolve player numbers every day for weeks, trying to prove yourself right, on an anonymous internet forum.
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>>149726768
lol
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>>149727254
Dont worry, the dropship change wont stay.
Its a completely retarded change that literally makes no sense.
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>>149727265
>>149727462
it always nice to dunk some self-confident little faggots

i like it
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>>149727254
Well, You just need to play with a good torvald. He just actually fucks shit up if played well.
As for sunny, if you get focused down you won't get a lot of drone anymore, between the 8 second cooldown on the drone charge, and 6 second drone CD, it's really bad...But yeah i'd say she's still very solid at saving people getting focused, probably put her in tier 2.
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gorgon or kraken?
btw im a hipster so which ones more under used
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>>149727815
Gorgon is less used.
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>>149727815
Honestly? I fight more gorgons and wraiths than kraken
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>>149727498
>namefagging

Here comes the cancer
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>>149722667
In the main menu, Extras, Daily Sign In Rewards or something
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>>149727926
What kind of luck you must be having. I've been facing nothing but Krakens and Moliaths all day along with a stray Behemoth or two.
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how do i get that special monster being reworked
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>have an ez game
>get some guy down away from team
>spend the next minute teabagging him
>walk away
>he just goes to dropship
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>>149728340
I haven't played today. I imagine there's been a large influx of them now though
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>>149727501
Like, I understand they were trying to help pubbies missing the dropship when downed but they should have done something like putting a large prompt of "RESPAWN NOW" or making the die prompt instant instead of having to hold it.

>>149727748
>Well, You just need to play with a good torvald. He just actually fucks shit up if played well.
The problem is that a lot of other characters bring more or the same damage far more reliably. Yeah I've played with decent Torvalds but almost everytime I would think they would be doing a lot more as another character. Tier 2? Maybe, but definitely not Tier 1. Maybe put him in the "Depends on Team Comp" tier with Bucket. His Shrapnel grenades can really help characters like Abe and Hank add to their already good damage as well as allow the medic like Val focus more on healing/tranqs than vulnerability
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who really cares about winstreaks? those shouldn't have been visible to anyone in the first place
you need massive winstreaks for any notable bonus anyway
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>hyde elite
>abe elite

Who next? The only hunters I don't have are torbad and the depressing cunt.
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>punish people for not wanting to play some role
>still force the role on them even if it's their least preferred one
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>>149729324
tell me he wrote that as a joke

TELL ME IT WAS A JOKE
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>>149729320
Parnell is fun and he has good dropship convos
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>>149713759
this
>>
I'm on a mission to make Torvald playable.

Wish me luck, spending 12k keys on Capacity.
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>>149729953
That's not how you fucking do it. Its weapon swap, reload speed, capacity. And I think we've come to the conclusion today that hes not as bad as thought just the amount of skill needed is way more then it should be.
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>>149729953
>capacity on torvald
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>>149730084
>>149730105

I did it bros, you can't stop meeeee.

40% capacity here we goooooooo
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>>149730253
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>>149730084
i think a mortar buff would balance him pretty well. either in speed of the projectiles or damage
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>>149729953
does capacity have any effect on amount of mortars shot?
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>>149727926
>>149727881
so between them what are their strengths and characteristics
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>>149706458
Ah Abe and Caira. The had to start with the OTP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWC3hlMomhA
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>round length

fucking ruskie
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>>149730413
>tfw I self insert as Abe
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>>149730441
ruskies gonna ruskie, they're "white" niggers

but the true blame is on TRS
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>>149730345

Sure does.

40% capacity fires 7 mortar shots instead of 5.
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>Custom Game
>Arena
>Settings
>In favor of Monster
>0 downs to kill
>start stage 3

Now I can grind perks from these shit monsters that arent Wraith :)

next up is stage 1 monster, in favor of hunters, and infinite downs so I can play torbad without burdening the community :)
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>>149731596
does it still give you xp?
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>>149731596
you're in for a surprise :^)
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>>149731596
>>149731740
>>149731845
No, YOU are in for a suprise
When you open Tutorial for the first time it says that EXP per days is VERY limited

I tried - only 2 games
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>>149729953

The mission is failing so far, 100% loss rate.
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>>149732146
I'm shocked and surprised
your team must really suck
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>>149732146
I am surprised. Memes a side it shouldn't be that low.
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>downloads patch
>game wont get past this screen even after 10 minutes of waiting
ok.
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Neat
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>>149732374
>>149732486

Three games so far,

Meteor Goliath, Meteor Goliath, Kraken

All losses.

Only did 8k damage total on the last one vs Kraken. Never saw one harpoon on the kraken either from Griffin...
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>>149732618
win 10 - "working as intended" general
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>>149733358
omg fucking noob torbad dude do ur job get a life
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>>149733547
>torbald-shaming

Reporting...
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>>149732990
>generic murricuh skin
>implying his blood eagle space marine suit isnt the best
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>>149733683
get fucked commie
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>>149733636
Relax man, I like Torbolt. I was just satirizing what the Griffin was probably thinking/saying
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>>149733883
delete this...
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This new monster perk is retardedly overpowered.

I used a full 4 thrusts and literally went no where after getting melee'd.

What the fuck?
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>>149734828
In other hand he can't get 40% DR

So all you need is Hank + Val and you are good to go
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>>149732146

>tfw you win a game with Torvald

It's actually happening!!!!!!!!!

Then you realise that monster was just shit.
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>>149735707
>So all you need is Hank + Val and you are good to go

This is the game now.
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>>149735707
>The meta further stagnates because the devs are retarded
Why have so many hunters if only 5-6 of them are viable?
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>load into a game as cabot
>one guy leaves after roles
>the other two leave too
>fuck it, i need cabot levels
>GORGON

jesus the bots in this game are fucking terrible. even with them we nearly killed the shitter
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Is Evolve playable again? I heard earlier that it was prone to crashing and killing Steam and stuff.
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>>149737389
It started from 47k players
In 2 weeks it is now 8k players

you have one week before your matchmaking will betaking 1-2 hrs again

it is almost ded
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>>149733683

Dont you mean Blood Raven?


Aside from that his elite makes him an Ultra marine now
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>>149737686
It is Tuesday night. Not everyone is probably playing currently.
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Why is this games setting and characters wasted on such shit devs and gameplay idea


Its brink all over again
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>>149704768
Exactly why is Hyde tier 2?

I do as much if not more with him then blitz or lennox. Hell of a lot easier to boot because it doesn't require as much consistency in the aiming or range.
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>>149735707
>>149735925
That'd be because the dumbfucks nerf randomly instead of buffing shit hunters.

It's a shitty way to balance and tons of dev teams fall into the trap.

Everything being strong at what they do is more interesting and fun than 8 characters being the exact same but they have a different colored gun.
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>periodic reward is 15 keys
Well fuck you too
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Guys, it's actually happening....
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>>149740409
finally you found a retarded kid monster who is probably 11 yo

funny how he magaed to give a 10min heaache to 20yo faggots kek

what a joke
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>>149740409
>censoring your name
what a pussy
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Got 6k keys who should i buy?
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>Laz
>Tech Hank
>Lennox
>Abe

The unbeatable team.

Lennox takes priority and heat off of Laz because she will build up too much damage if ignored. Just get all damage perks.

Abe because hes just all around good and helps Laz survive as well. Whatever perks. Atleast 1 regen though, to help with Laz's lack of heals.

Tech Sgt. Hank. He can use his shields to help lazarus, and doesnt lose all effectiveness when Laz is cloaked. His lazer forces the monster to dodge away, which when timed with Laz's cloak means he is going to escape. Hank essentially acts as the Medic of the team, giving Abe and Lennox shields to survive. Get capacity or reload perks.

Lazarus. Yes, Lazarus. With Abe's slows, Lennox's high damage, and Hanks utility, Lazarus is extremely hard to kill. Get all mobility perks and you are golden.

Any Monster that tries to focus Laz will lose. You need to focus Hank, and then Laz. Which can be difficult for alot of people. They need to survive Lennox's onslaught long enough to down them both, and down Laz without letting him pick up Hank.

With a good hunter team, you'll never have any strikes. The only danger is the monster getting to stage 3. Abe's tracking dart and good coordination should keep this from happening though.

The only thing that is actually standing in the way of this being the literal best team is the new fucking dropship update that can fuck everything up for you.
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>>149741420
golden perks or Hank
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>>149741439
>The unbeatable team.
>lennox

I pick Kraken and your Lennox will be doing 0 damage to me.

Game over
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>>149741512
I unno man i really Cabot as a support and i have a 80% winrate with him in 20 games
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>>149741439
>The unbeatable team.
but evog said moliath ez
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>tfw went on an hour long losing streak and missed my periodic challenge
>tfw have to fast till 10:45 tomorrow when i get lab blood tests so i have a headache

someone delete this
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>>149741714
then someone else or golden perks
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>>149741848
>Golden perks
what are u, some non-min-maxing scrub?

You can get all those perks from buying hunters and leveling them.
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first for new game mode, monster brawl. battle royal for monsters
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>>149742538
There are how many perks? 12/14 golden?
maxing out 3-4 characters may take you over 50hrs, around 80 most likely

Good luck getting them before the end of 2016
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>>149742538
Why would you want to waste your time and keys playing someone like Kala or Electro Griffin?
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How do I carry as Blitz?

Do I dmg/capacity/capacity?
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>>149742592
Hunted. Monster starts stage 3 and is slower. All Hunters start with 2 strikes. They need to complete objective around the map to get strikes back and to devolve the monster :)
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>Monster always disconnects right before we kill it.

Why do they always have to be a poor sport?
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>>149743373
>buying electro griffin
You get him on sign-in day 25 you scrub.

You're really bad at this min-maxing game.
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>>149743585
change it but some reversal good idea
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>Lennox only uses her autocanon
>When we are fighting a goliath
>We lose because we deal no damage to him
>Blames us
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>>149743542
Anyone?

I want to win ._.
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>>149744871
Then don't be shit a the game and draw your own conclusions on what to use
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>4 game winstreak with Laz in pub

NERFS WHENS?????
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>>149744871
pick perks that multiply your strength or alleviate weaknesses for your char
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>>149745871
>>149745407
You cunts are having a giggle are you?
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>Keep getting no ranked Hyde who have no idea how to fucking use their weapons.

And here I thought it was just Torvald I had to worry about.
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>>149745979
He's saying that blitz main damage comes from holding the beam on the monster. Capacity is good
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>>149746462
don't give fish, teach to fish
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>Game is so fucking dead the thread is at page 10
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>>149749427
I'm just waiting for Behemoth to come back so I can play him for a few games then give up on this forever
Has TRS said what they're going to fuck up this week?
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>>149749427
Chat hasn't exceeded 10 people at any time in weeks.
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>7200 playing currently only

It's happening guys. RIP.
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>>149750208
>using any one the two cancerous steam groups/discord
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>>149750273
I think even casuals where able to see the latest patch notes and come to the realization that TRS has no clue what they're doing. Honestly, this has lasted far longer than I thought it would.
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how do i play gorgon
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>>149750612
>>149750612
its only u casuals bitching
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>gorgon game
>shitty maggie trapper
>first time we dome the gorgon it just flies around spamming its shit, constantly running around behind rocks
>it can't kill any of us but we can barely chip off two of its hp bars
>5 minutes of this shit and it just runs away
>later he gets stage 3 and our bucket shit talks, rage quits
>we kill it at the relay because it's a huge open space and he can't strategically spam all of his skills well enough

fuck gorgons bros
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>>149750889
You have to be an annoying fuck that only hits and runs all the time if the hunters see you just swing away to the other side of the map in no time
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>>149751215
damn sounds fun
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>>149750889
Lvl 1: 1 1 2 0
Lvl 2: 2 2 3 0
Lvl 3 3 3 3 0

Abuse your traversal but be careful to not get mistakenly attached to walls. lure the hunters into doming you into a cave/enclosed area. spam 2 whenever it comes up, use 1 when you find their medic/support in order to slow them down and follow it up with 3. use your heavy attacks in between and your traversal to easily keep up with the hunters dodging away, and you'll get easy wins every time. If you're getting bullied by their assault try to aim the spider so that it CC's him, and Acid spit him as he's being pulled away as he'll take full damage cause that spider is a little OP piece of shit and it's wonderful.
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>>149751260
Yeah, it's fun to see niggers rage when you trash talk them at the end of the game
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>>149751215
well soudns fun but i meant what do i max
>>149751310
i got my keys binded to different abilities pls use names for abilities
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I have gotten good at Gorgon

But not good enough to unlock godly good perks

I don't even know which are good on her

The enemy team has rage quit twice in a row but my last game was a loss because Cabot is fucking bullshit

I try to prioritize medics but they always have porks that keep them in the air constantly and I can do ZERO FUCKING DAMAGE to assaults because of their ass-shield

What do
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>>149751352
1 - Spider web
2 - Baby Spider
3 - Acid Spit
4 - Mimic(Useless. Never get/use this ability as it does no damage against people with common sense and forces you to stand still during the duration)
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>>149751352
>>149751442
Just realized the format I wrote up might be confusing, so for example at level 1 you'd put...
1 point into Spider Web(1)
1 point into Baby Spider(2)
2 points into Acid Spit(3)
0 points into Mimic(4)
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>intense lag spike in the middle of a dome fight
>frozen
>hunters are unaffected and can just shoot through all my armor and half my health

Why
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>>149750409
heres your reply, man
i know you really wanted me to know how you feel
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>Assault and Trapping blaming me when they can't hold or do any damage to the monster.
>We literally won because we ran out the fucking timer.

You can only heal stupid so much.
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>>149751609
u probably just go stuck in terrain

were u a wraith and using ur 1. the dash explosion thingy?
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kek gorgons hilarious
hide in holes spam spiders and jump from a million height lmao so much cancer i can feel it
i put up the meteor golaith for the GORGON SPIDER BITCH
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>>149752845
Yet the wraith needed nerfs :)
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>>149753109
wraith is worse than normal goliath
i stomp with both goliaths but nearly die on wraith all the time
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>>149753506
I still don't get why they nerfed Wraith when Gorgon is more op and Moliath is literally better in every way than goliath
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Finally got Emet to lvl 40 here is his elite skin if anyone is curious.
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How does one get voodoo skins?
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>>149753784
literal FREEDOM. It's beautiful.
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i just got matches vs a pre made and i couldnt move or attack anyone while they literally ignored my armor and cut me off even when i tried doing mind games they just combed the map to dome me fucking bull shit hunters really are over powered and have no counterplay
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>>149754241
No man the monsters are so fucking OP
t.level 7
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>>149713283
>food source exploit
huh?
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>>149754425
Basically the two trapjaws you kill spawns a pack that you can keep killing over and over for free evolve.
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>>149754425
food has infinite spawning now, so you can find your favorite place on the map and never leave there if you don't want to. for example, kaves as elder kraken or behemoth, or a really open spot with a large pillar as a kraken and never need to leave there for food.
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>>149754323
i was venting but everything i said is true. pre mades and randoms need to have seperate balancing

retard randos buff hunters a lil
and do whatever for pre mades to make hunters not op
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>>149754938
No i agree with you, its pure bullshit that TRS only listens to the new people
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>>149754790
hows this work exactly?
how does stuff respawn? how close can i be etc.
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>>149755009
but i am new
just not mentally retarded like normie retards, i can grasp a games fundamentals
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>>149755024
it'll respawn right on top of you. you'll see them phase in from nowhere every 15 or 30 seconds I believe.
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How the fuck do I play gorgon
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>Lennox bitching that the monster won't die blaming us.
>Doesn't even realize she is useless versus Krakken.
>We held him down and she still never used her thunder-strikes.
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>>149755121
Well guess who cries and whines the most, the normie retards.
That's the reason the Wraith is shit now
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>>149755264
wraith can get good when lazarus does. Right now they're both considered worse than hitler to the devs since they were super fucking good at launch.
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>>149755174
by reading the thread.
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>making the assault take 40% more damage than before while shielded
Really TRS?
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>>149755783
I don't get why they are making Assault class more useless then it already is. The point was to soak to damage and now they can't even do that.
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>>149725335
Don't know if you're still around, but the Tier list is pretty much strictly for public play, mostly without any voice communication, where each Hunter is judged alone without putting him in a specific comp that elevates his usefulness. Or even considering that all of your teammates pick properly and play competently.

You can get away with so, so much more when you can actually rely on the entirety of your team. And if all of you have unlocked all the perks needed to compensate for the weaknesses of your hunters.

That said, I'll move Sunny a tier down. I can see where you're coming from on most of the suggestions, with the exception of Torvald. Maybe you're spear-heading the high level play meta with him, but down here in the gutter nobody ever preforms well with him.

>>149740201
Hyde is quite decent. He can really be just as good as the top tier assaults as you say, but a lot of his damage comes from the stink bombs which is no sweat for mobile monsters. It takes a decent while to recharge without reload perks, which pubs rarely have.
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Am I supposed to stay flying in combat with gorgon? Because I can't dish out enough damage this way against hank/val teams
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>>149756832
Wall pounce, web blast the one you're not focusing away from you.
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>>149756441
Torvald is definitely tier 3 now. The overall buffs to mortar makes it more reliable to drop them all in the same area and the increased radius makes them more likely to hit. It's great for forcing monsters off your medic or support now since a capacity torvald drops 7~ mortars and that's about 1200-1300 damage and they're actually tightly clustered and not spread out.

He also only does 10% less damage per shotgun shot than a parnell does (9 damage versus 10) and while the capacity is less, the fire rate and spread are waaay fucking better. Plus the whole weakpoints thing.

He's definitely viable in pub play if you know what you're doing.

Plus you know, worst case scenario you direct impact the mortars by getting into melee range of the monster since you can look straight up and fire them whenever you want and they'll impact straight into the monster before they even begin to arc down.
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>>149756441
>Wraith
>Good
I'd say you change wraith to tier 4 and Gorgon to tier 2
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>be medic
>see torvald + kala
>cry
Literally counter picks to each other.
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>Nerf Lazarus to do the no damage he already did
Whats next heal the monster?
>>
How do you deal with Kraken as Jack? The repulsor doesn't seem to be good for anything.
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>>149758441
You don't. The only trappers that do anything to kraken is griffin for control and crow for damage.
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>see blitz val hank
>should be good
>blitz doesn't use lightning gun, manage not to damage a wraith who was engaging us two domes in a row
Holy shit, how can you even be so bad with the simplest class in the game?
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>>149758670
markov is simplest. Just point in the general direction and be within half a dome range of the monster. Maximum damage.
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>>149757608

Laz is in the same situation as behemoth, except TRS suffers from mass retardation and forgot to disable him until future rework
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>>149758868
You need a functional brain to use the mines, though.
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I don't get it /evog/, I swap out of monster because some guy left on the hunters side so we could play vs AI and it wouldn't be a one sided stomp and as soon as I do some guy picks monster and another hunter leaves so it's 2v1. RIP 31 winstreak for not being a cunt I guess.
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>>149760108
a real Markov never have to use 2 or only whn he chases the monster after the dome.
Its all about 1 and 3 inbetween.
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>>149760119
Hahaha, good riddance.
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>>149760119
you have a kind soul, but remember: Evolve is always about you vs 4 other shitters, no matter if you play monster or a hunter
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>>149760384
Pretty much this.
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>>149760334
>implying I won't get it back in no time at all
>Being salty about other people having a winstreak

I bet you play Crow
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This ranking system is super fucked up.
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>>149760910
No, monster only at 37 streak.
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>>149757245
You give a decent sales pitch, moved him up to T3.

>>149757470
I've been told by some other anons to have Gorgon higher, so I'm moving her up to 2. Personally I haven't encountered a good Gorgon for over two weeks, maybe I'm just lucky.

I think Wraith deserves to be above Goliath and Elder Kraken, but I see your point though. I'll just rename Tier 3 from Quite Good to Alright.
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>>149761648
gorgon and kraken both got a metric fuckton stronger due to the new monster perks, especially kraken being able to snowball lightning strike someone and it's impossible to dodge it due to Grounder.
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>level 50 people
>after a good first dome fight, our kala teleports across the map and walks into a mega mouth
>some I run over to help "maybe"
>other 2 go after monster
>one of them walks into a plant
>the other one doesn't help the one in the plant
>the guy in the plant is blaming daisy for not saving him from plant
>tell him he is a retard
>assblasted shitters comeback is a pathetic "uh noooo you are the retard"

JESUS FUCK WHEN WILL IT END.
It's like people LITERALLY don't have a brain.
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>>149761761
I'm a cheapskate and run 15% + 20% cooldown reduction on Kraken. Is grounder even a good idea for Kraken? I mean shit, you're replacing 20% CDR, they'll run out of jetpacks eventually.
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>>149761782
>people STILL don't know the megamout spawn spots and kill them on sight
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>>149761963
you're replacing 20% more cooldown with a 100% chance to hit and inability to properly reposition themselves. You basically negate sunny's Jetpack booster since it reduces the thrust enough for you to follow a boosting hunter easily with lightning strike. + you deal free DoT with snowballs. That's easily a 20%+ increase in damage and allows you to track laz or slim.

who cares if you can squeeze in an extra 2 lightning strikes every 10 times, when they can jetpack boost out of 4 of those, whereas they can't do that with grounder.
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I should have quit as soon as I saw the ribbon 3 Lazarus on my team.
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>>149763037
just two more days anon, just two more days and we get a better rotation
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>>149761648
Honestly, maybe you should put an asterisk with Bucket's placement "saying possible T1/T2 depending on team comp.". Like for example with Rogue Val, he's extremely good. It's semi-misleading for someone to read that chart and assume that he is just not good since his viability varies greatly depending on team comp., arguably more so than any other hunter.
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>>149763380
he's good with rogue val, but she's pretty bad after her nerfs.

It's like saying slim is good with hank. Yeah it's true, but slims not good.
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>>149761963
>>149762301
Full stop
Grounder is melee attacks only
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>>149763803
his spamballs apply melee effects
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>>149763803
snowballs now apply melee on hit effects as of last patch. including slow, poison, and all the grounder-type perks.
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>>149763837
>>149763908
Wew, the kraken rape never ends
>>
What the fuck were they thinking with Grounder

Gorgon gets an entire ability dedicated to the same effect that does piss-all damage because, surprise, the ability to damage hunter mobility BY ITSELF is strong as fuck
>>
>>149764054
>lolololo kraken is balanced u just suck so what if he can fly away out of the range of nearly every effective assault main weapon and never even turn his back to you for proper harpooning that he can't get out of in a split second and never stops spamming mines and electric balls and vortex and lightning strike and now he can even nerf your mobility without being close to you
>>
>>149764282

but the top 0.1% wins vs monster 99% of the time :^)
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>>149764282
if this patch didn't convince everyone that TRS is extremely retarded (and has women making some of these decisions) then I don't know what will
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>>149764385
JESUS! You are right! We need to address this immediately. Hunter nerfs coming right up, also some general monster buffs as well for good measure.
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is this patch named dropzone because even more people are dropping the game than ever before during stage 2? even I've lost faith in this game with decisions that are this fucking retarded, it's not even funny anymore
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I honestly don't know how to play Kraken and Gorgon, Moliath is way easier.

Teach me your ways, /evog/.
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>>149764385
this
I play this game for 2 weeks now and I cant forget this one time I lost with monster against a premade. I created many topics in the official forums, TRS has to know.
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Monsters are actually pretty underpowered.

If you are losing as hunter you are bad and so are your teammates.
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>terrible balancing decisions out the ass
>semi-broken perks
>most hunters aren't viable
>stupid game mechanic changes
>destroying laz with those changes
>cheating is not dealt with and mostly ignored

gj trs
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>>149764501
I am not even mad to be honest. I had to put up with a lot of shitty devs over the years and their shitty decisions and incompetence.
But this....This game, I have yet to see a dev so actively killing off the game.
It literally feels like they want to kill it off and I am not even joking here.
If I wanted to kill off the game fast, I would pretty much do what the devs actually did. It's baffling me.
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>>149764618
or 80% of hunters should share Behemoths fate and be locked until they are balanced, so we only have Markov/Val/Hank/Griffin teams
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>>149764618
So it's my fault the blitz wasn't using his tesla/the torvald domed in a tunnel/the support picked Cabot?
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>>149764890
s-stupid sexy sock puppet
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>>149764793
many devs killed many games, but TRS made it to some kind of art
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>want to play some goliath
>queue up as memester, get assault
>thats ok i cant get what i want every time
>play against wraith, she always starts with me for some reason
>die because lazarus cant heal apparently
>daisy immediately revives me before lazarus has any chance of reaching me
>down penalty
>this happens 3 more times
Lazarus getting cucked by a fucking doge.
Why is this game not a monster simulator? Or a 4v4 between smaller monsters that have to hunt as a pack and hunters.
NO lets make it 1v4 but the one guy is a building.
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>>149764956
Tripwire says hi.
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I only play for the dailies and a couple of challenges now. Waiting to see if they put out a good patch one of these days.
Which is unlikely. It's not going to matter soon though, playerbase is bleeding hard. By the end of next week they'll be lucky if they get 10k peaks.
2-3 weeks, less than 5k players at this rate. And they will have fucked up the game even more.

It's dead, Jim.
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>>149765131
What if TW and TRS teamed up and made a game with 2k?
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>>149765298
You need some SplashDamage to make the loadout/customization system.
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>>149765415
>SD somehow made the crafting system even worse
>they're locked with the loadout system because resetting it would have everyone scream bloody murder
>the game has been stagnating for months, I don't even remember the last new content update

But hey, on the flipside, they didn't take out half the maps to change them when they entered a beta. I think evolve will die before I get to see the other maps.
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>>149765415
enemies need different resistances to different weapon types, so your main weapon may do full damage to one enemy type but a slightly less common takes only 15% damage from your one and only weapon type
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>playing Kraken
>Agains Markov / Cabot / Laz

Jesus fucking christ, even though I burst people really fast, I melt with the little amount of time they have in the dome. And I have to camp corpses or Laz will just get them up without a strike. Fucking pain.
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>>149765826
you dont have to camp bodies if you see Laz
when he turns invisible just shoot the body for some seconds until Laz is visible again

while Cabot is a pain in the ass, he is a bad defensive support
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>>149765814
>firebug gains bonus xp for killing crawlers
>so now they have 70% fire resistance
BRILLIANT
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>>149764745
beta
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>>149765915
That's what I mean though by camping it, I have to really pay attention to it while I'm melting like an icecream in the summer heat.

I'd rather play against a defensive support as Kraken than get Cabot.

>>149765936
I quit playing KF2 a little before they introduced the resistance system everyone hated. I remember seeing a post from them saying they're going to revert it back because of the negative feedback. Did they?
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>>149765637
>watch db update video
>oh a new map
>its execution
>oh they stole the hearthstone crafting system
>its still a random roll for weapon/perks/skin
>hey some fun walljumping and shooting, i remember why i liked dirty bum
>stickynigger is still in the game
are they doing this on purpose?
they must be
>>149765936
how much longer until kf2 actually releases?
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>>149766405
It's still there, they only touched most trash resistances.
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>>149766492
By the end of [CURRENT YEAR] :^)

Early Access done right!

t. Tripwire Interactive
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this assualt literally taking away all my armor in 1 hit

xddd monsters r op xdd
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>>149766579
>we're aiming to have kf2 out by the end of the year - twi, april 2015
>6 months after the announced "expected release date" and counting
>uuuuh, we'll release the game in fall 2016
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>>149767712
Nice bait retard.
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>>149767840
bait? kill yourself hunter main
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>>149766492
>>149766579
>>149767731
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>>149767864
I played both hunters and monsters specifically to not have retarded bias, at level 50 I can honestly tell you to fuck off with your shit bait.
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whats up with hunters 1 shotting me and not taking any dmg when i play gorgon
is gorgon the worse monster
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i keep getting matched vs pre mades and the hunters literally never die and if they do they spawn on top of my face and then instantly do ALL of my fucking armor.... what did they do this patch holy fuck

like i didnt even try to play these guys
i just stood there and let them dps me down in 5 seconds
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>>149692883
>Evolve is on a RAPID decline because TRS has shown once again how completely inept they are it comes to balancing.

If by "balancing" you mean "having the ability to out-smart more time/better skilled players" then yeah.

Evolve's problem has always been the ONE player will lopside the match for the others. Good monster? Will stomp the Hunters dry. Great Hunter? Will kill the Monster quickly.

There's no "even-balance" for either side to have a good clean and fun tactical match. It's stomps with pubs no matter what you do. And Turtle Rock didn't learn this from the fucking BETAS that showed this problem.

Game deserves to die a second time because of it.
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STOP PUTTING ME VERSUS T HE SAME GOD DAMNED PRE MADE WITH THE HACKING ASSAULT WHO DOES MY DMG IN 10 SECONDS HOLY FUCK


XDD VOICE CHATS BALANCED
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>>149768789
>Great Hunter? Will kill the Monster quickly.
You're a funny guy.

It only takes one braindead assault to throw a perfect match- if he doesn't damage the monster, which is entirely possible for pubbers, hunters can't win.

It only takes on braindead medic to throw a match. If he gets dunked in twenty seconds, which is entirely possible for medics who see the assault pause to refuel and decide that means they need to burn all their fuel to engage, you won't be able to survive long enough to go through armor.

Having a bad support is also very bad. The trapper is probably the role least likely to throw a match.

And regardless, bad players WILL lag behind, and solo or duo domes are a death sentence if the monster isn't stupid.
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>>149769224

Exactly what I mean. If one of the players isn't on the ball/knows what to do, the match will be a stomp for either side. Monster sucks? Hunter wins. Hunters suck? Monster wins.

There's no out-playing or out-smarting for either side. Say the monster sucks? He can't run away or hide due to the global scan and other factors preventing him from being able to turn footprints off besides "jump and hope to make enough distance so you can then slowly crawl around and then start to make fake tracks to hide."

Balance is the LEAST of their issues. Yes, it's a factor. But new players won't be retained if the games they're getting into (even with 1-3 friends) is a complete stomp because someone with more hours or knowing what to do comes in and absolutely wrecks them. It's one of the alarm bell ringing things that Turtle Rock should've seen from E3 2012(? or 2013? when they showed it off... anyway!) and the betas. People complained about this but they took it to mean "balance" when balance is just a side-effect of this problem.
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the one assault in the bioshop suit and the laser is over powered
he kills me in 2 hits as a stage 2 monster...
he straight up is winning in 1v1 fights
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>>149769224
>play monster
>get domed
>see trapper and kill him
>no one else is around
>chill for another minute or so
>dome ends, start bulking again
i can't even imagine how someone can find hunters fun when people like this exist
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gorgon is such a bad monster he just loses to everyone because his damage sucks and he has no hp
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Hi, /evog/
can anyone please drop all daily rewards screenshot or list?
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>>149770147
The most boring one to play against. Gorgon's maneuverability means that matches drag on forever.
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>>149770147

>loses
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>>149770560
inevitable loss
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stacking perks is retarded
you should always consider what kind of perk you take at what tier, not just stack them
monsters are fine unless you face max DR or max CDR and thats bullshit
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>>149771328
Minmax or fuck off. The bonuses are too small alone.
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>>149769224
I've won ranked matches where the healer was intentionally throwing.
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>dropship timer starts coutning down as soon as a hunter gets downed

Thats fucking terrible holy shit
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>>149772657
Shut the fuck up, the game is stacked against monsters, they need the help. You're such an entitled fucking hunter baby. #MonsterLivesMatter
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>>149772779
You seem to be confused. Thats a change that favors the hunters, not the monster.
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>>149772931
unless you're laz, in which case it's a giant middle finger to you.
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>>149772992
Good thing he costs 8k, heh?
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>>149772931
Reminder that Laz is on the current free rotation.
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>>149772992
>>149773108
Who cares, youre fucking laz you didnt want to win anyways

Another patch where TRS doesnt address that most of their roster is garbage and need buffs
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This game is fucking dead, TRS are the most incompetent devs Ive seen probably worse than warframe.
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>>149773178
Well, some pubs do want to win but they're stuck with the free medic. But you're right, yeah.

>>149773382
I remember Warframe and winning everything and then dumping the game.
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>>149773178
I play laz because all the other medics are too good, Lazarus is the only balanced medic in evolve currently.

I'm actually level 39 and i'm about 6 games away from 40 and I just want it done so I never have to play him again.
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>>149765131
>>149765298
>>149765415
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ded tred
ded game
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Why are there so many Trappers who blindly follow the monsters footsteps?
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>>149777158
Why are there so many assaults, supports, and medics that blindly follow behind the trapper?

Someone has to follow the tracks to make sure the fucker doesn't double back.
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>>149770560

So wait, we're supposed to stand in one place and let every Hunter just hold their LMB until we die?
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>>149768395

People are hacking against Gorgon because they honestly suck dick. Once you begin learning the Gorgon for real (60ish hours playing her) you figure out how to dodge almost everything whilst shitting out damage and people literally spit all over their keyboards in frustration.
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>>149764282
>does piss all damage
It's actully pretty strong. Typically matches acid or gets close to it in damage when I play
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>>149764618
>Monsters are actually pretty underpowered
You must really suck as monster

I have seen so many retards playing monster, that I am not surprised.

A good monster can rape any team composition without a problem, but you have to:
-buy the best monster perks
-know how to make the most damage with your monster
-know what the hunters can do
-use the first seconds of the dome to kill one hunter (if they are split)
-know where the animals are
-AND MOST IMPORTEND: Use the map for your advantage

The last point is the reason why most monster players suck. They don't know how the dome works and also don't know that they can rape every team composition, if they use specific locations to fight.
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>>149778240

>they can rape every team comp

You have no idea what Val/Hank/Markov/Griffin actually does, do you?

>Extreme shielding by Hank
>Constant healing by Val

So you focus one of them?
>They roach hard.

You'll need Grounder and CONSTANT melees to stick to them. Good luck doing this because a good Hank -will- orbital you, a good Markov WILL Arc Mine you, and a good Griffin WILL harpoon the fuck out of you when you go in. If Hank is with any good trapper, they'll know to CC / Orbital you back to back and there goes your life.
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>>149778240
Or you can be Moliath, fight the hunters anywhere and win with DR perks.

I'm gonna be honest, I have no idea what characters like Bucket or Emet or Lazarus do or which skills do more damage, I just focus the medic and then the support.
If one or more of them are shit then it's game over.

If the comp is Blizt/Markov/Griffin/Hank/Val then I dodge because it requires me to get good.
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>>149755783
>>149756205

This nerf is great. Assaults can now soak several cooldowns of the Monster if they're dumb enough to fight them but it's not to the point where the Assault is essentially a juggernaut that can ignore everything whilst holding W and LMB.
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>Wraith's decoy no longer attacks at supernova speeds all the time
>Decoy doesn't even benefit from supernova

Wraith is fucking kill
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Just think, we might get some balance, the longer the beta goes on for. I mean they have to be getting data from all the games played and stuff, right? These are just temporary adjustments in the game until everything is more or less balanced while bringing back the unique feel to all the Hunters and Monsters.
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>>149778731
>If the comp is Blizt/Markov/Griffin/Hank/Val then I dodge because it requires me to get good.

There's really no getting good in there for you. You're just gonna get abused and lose.
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So should I get the bronze, or silver grounder perk?
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>>149780473
>implying

They're balancing around the tryhard premades. The hunters will be nerfed even more, and the monsters buffed, so those people can have fun. Pubs don't matter.
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>Jack is shit
Why did you lie to me /evog/
Trier him the first zum and regretten not playing him the whole week
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>>149781381
same reason they said parnell was total shit. They probably couldn't use him at all and blamed the character
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>>149781381

For pubs he is shit.

You need to be very good at Repulsor otherwise the mistakes you make will cost the team a lot, better take Abe or Crow to contribute at least something with 100% delivery chance.

Not even mentioning that Repulsor is badly implemented and sometimes does not work as intented.

Jack is for pre-made and only for pre-mades that know what to do.

Personally I'm leveling him up to 40 and not touching EVER again until TSR will fix Repulsor.
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This drop ship change is aids
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>>149781650
The Repulsor can push Jack or the monster out of domes. I've had a game where the hunter team was stuck inside their own dome because Jack somehow glitched me through the domewall.
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>>149781870
TRS truly is an AAA dev.
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>>149781174
Balancing the game at the highest level of play is the right thing to do senpai
>>149781736
True
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>game won't start yesterday
>now steam won't start

fuck my life
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Whats a good perk set up for regular val?
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I've only played Kraken 5 times and have no idea what I'm doing.
Do I just need to get used to aiming his shit?
He feels unbelievably slow. It feels like he's actually faster when hes on the ground instead of flying.
I'm also not sure on what skills to be picking, but I just straight up ignore aftershock, it feels really lackluster.
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>>149784258
Jetpack efficiency or Rocke man
Battery
Battery
Your support can take care of himself, you're better at keeping him alive than the opposite.
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What perks do I pick for Gorgon if I don't have CDR yet?
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>>149783214
That is not what the right thing to do. I cannot think of a way for them to properly balance myself, but making the game shittier and shittier for pubs is not the answer.
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>>149785460

That's what the top multiplayer games being streamed on twitch did
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>>149785460
games like dota and league are just fine with that way of balancing.

the problem is that you first need to actually establish that playerbase. right now, you might have a good bunch of 'elite' players but theres also a metric fuckton of really bad people. right now they should be focusing on getting players in, keeping them, than trying for bigger balance changes to help people out on both sides. also another issue is that their buffs are pathetic for the most part, while they commonly do hard nerfs on characters. they need to do small number changes, or make everyone 'overpowered' like dota.
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Why not simply have one setting for 'pros' and another for pubs?
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>>149786020
That's actually a compelling argument famm
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>>149786198
I talked about this with someone in the dota 2 gen but it doesnt make sense if you actually put it into action. the fact is that if you make a game easier for pubs, but also have separate balance for high level players, what happens when said pub players reach that standard? they'd get crushed. not to mention it would require two teams to balance it properly. theres just a bunch of issues that pop up and it'll end up causing more problems than it solves. maybe in the long run, it might fix things, but evolve doesnt have that much time. the game will easily have faded into nothingness within a year, just like before.
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>>149786590
ok let's let the game remain broken just so that it can pretend to be an esport then, great alternative
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>>149786829
I never said anything about an alternative, or that the way they're going about it now is good for the type of playerbase they want. the thing with games like dota and league is that you can easily balance for pro level play because of the huge dedicated population. you dont have that with evolve. I feel that with the game, they need to stop caring so much about nerfing hunters, and more about buffing both sides. buffing all those shit-tier hunters, and the shit-tier monsters. stop nerfing things that clearly dont need to be nerfed at all. they need to secure the casual playerbase first because premades will do fine even if hunters are nerfed, its what premades do in any game.
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Trappers, take both poison perks. Seriously.
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>>149787268
What if I'm abe and don't need those floating numbers to tell me where they are?
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>reinstall game
>blue screen
>delete config file and try again
>game crashes

I don't know what that last patch did but the game is unplayable for me now
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>>149787539

The damage is still helpful.
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I wish there was a tutorial on how to play Gorgon. I am playing him like a Goliath right now
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>hank on our team
>i'm playing jack
>moliath constantly focusing me
>hank doesn't shield me to keep me alive in between repulsors and instead just shoots the meatier
>end up losing

WEW
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>>149788286
>press spider
>press acid
>jump to the other side of dome
>repeat until "MONSTER WINS"
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>>149788936
They don't die unless I melee them
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>>149788936

This doesn't work you fucking idiot.
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>>149788556
>jack on our team
>be hank
>he cant outrun Moliath but still dash like a tard behind obstacles so I cant shield him and have to waste time following them
there are always two sides of a coin
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>>149785460

You're only calling it shitty because you're losing. The truth is there is has to be a minimum level of coordination from any multi player group and without that you're never going to get anywhere.
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>>149751260

Don't listen to that guy. This stops working quite fast.
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>>149788936
If you try that they'll easily heal the damage. Acid damage isn't nearly enough to down someone by itself and spider is easily dealt with if you use it at range.

Speaking of Gorgon the pounce damage perks got buffed. Like not just the smell range but the pounce damage. With the bronze perk at level 3 and the silver one at 2 it deals 110% bonus damage. Not sure what the increase is at level 3 silver but it may bring the pounce damage to 200 damage. Once I get level 3 silver I may start testing this out, could be fun.
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>>149790479

Not a good idea. Good team will break your pounce before you get good damage off unless you can straight up half a Hunter HP within the first second.
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Can I not buy perks unless I'm in a game? What the fuck is this UI
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>>149790621
Either they buffed the wall pounce or the perk does affect it. Pic is ~1 second after wall pouncing on a "full health" trapper. This is a lot of fun, or at least it would be if the assault couldn't break their own fucking pounce.
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>>149791850
>trapper
Thought it was a pic of me pouncing the crow, ah well.
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>>149791850

That support has two strikes homie. At that point pouncing is redundant and you'd do better to spiderman sling into their face and rape them at point blank.
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>>149792173
I'm aware of that, I was just pouncing on bots the entire game to get an idea of how strong pouncing would be.
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>>149788936
You can't win by wearing them down anymore
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>>149790036
no i'm telling you, rather than shield me he would just shoot the fucking thing. i would watch him in plain view shoot it
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Hyde is so best it hurts

>that pre evac mode cutscene
>nonchalantly discharging his flamer inside a ship
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>>149778240
You realize that hunters win 85% of the time in competitive matches right?

Clearly all of the monsters just need to gitgud. It totally has nothing to do with the fact that a competent team working together has a massive advantage.
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>>149794041
>Hyde is best
>monster is Kraken

I rest my case your honor.
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>>149794875
>griffin is on his game
>landing midair nades
>he's always inside my flamer

That thing has a lot more range than some realize.
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>>149764421
What if i told you we take a shit on our monster player even more this patch, how does that make you feel ? Still incredibly ignorant over the fact that you need to get better ?
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Jesus grounder kraken is cancer to fight against
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>>149787681
reload is better for damage.
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>>149795534
>implying your trapper isn't a Jack

OBJECTION YOUR HONOR I RESTED MY CASE
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>>149795970
Bullshit, you should be swapping constantly and never reloading.
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>>149795714
>unironically namefagging
>only plays in premades, full and partial
>plays monster when balance changes favor the monster

kys my friend
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>>149796224
It's rare to find someone that can jack but when they can it's a fucking no-fly zone. I love kraken and a good jack makes me saltier than the dead sea.
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>>149796231
>Bullshit
Free feel to investigate for yourself lad

>you should be swapping constantly and never reloading
The only person with two guns is an assault, and reload speed works even if you aren't holding the gun you are reloading. also THE PRIMARY IS BETTER THAN THE SECONDARY
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>>149795714
>namefagging fag
cancer is back
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>>149796371
There are people that can play Jack? Guess it's time for another hunter nerf!
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Cabot is fun. That is all.
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>>149796339
Yeah sorry, i'll just go pub like a fucking retard and get a nice juicy first time laz, you're right i'm fucking scum of the earth
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>you can't kill yourself anymore to respawn using emets respawn beacon
Nice work trs
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>>149797387
scared of an actual challenge and seeing your numbers go down when retards fuck your shit up? figures
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>>149797387
>>149797516
I personally despise such faggots.

I had around 2/2.1 W/L ratio when I was dodging in pubs but it wasn't fun so I just said "fuck it" and went ahead without bothering about pub ratio anymore. Now it is down to 1.1 but I realized I no longer care since every game I can do whatever I want and try new things

The game will die soon and I'ms ucking everything out of it before it hapens
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>>149797516
No, more like not having fun because i'm playing with people that don't know how the game works.
I'd rather solo monster and watch as nobody dodges my abilities, and feel good about how they were not on my team if i was a hunter.
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>>149797467
TOP KEK
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>>149797767
>I had around 2/2.1 W/L
forgot to say - as a Hunter

My Monster ration is s still 3.7-4 because pub is just kindergarden
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>>149797767
Don't you call me that shit when you don't even know what the fuck you're talking about, i don't even dodge games, i leave in the lobby when i don't get monster, and then i just play with friends that actually have more than 500 hours in the game and have tons of fun.
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>>149797847
yeah you're scared of your numbers going down in a video game
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>>149798049
>Don't you call me that shit
cry more nigger
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>>149798093
God you're a fucking retard
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>>149798049
yeah you do, we all know you dodge games lol the proof is right there
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>>149798176
>m-m-muh w/l ratio

big brave premades only shitter
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>>149798093
>not measuring your self-esteem on a virtual number in the videogame
>not using these numbers as a base for self-confidence
>not flashing these numbers as a proud alpha before vagina bearers

it is like you don't know how normal society and human interaction works
what a nerd
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>>149798049
>i leave in the lobby when i don't get monster
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>>149797049
Cabot is gun but your team will have a harder time
if you dont care what others think or matches are lost because of you, then yea Cabot can be fun
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>>149798207
Man i came to the evolve general expecting actual good discussion, all i fucking got was shitters complaining about pubbing, and 16 year olds being ebin, this shit makes me so depressed you guys are like a fucking parody

just take a gun and shoot me out of this shithole already
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>>149795714
>>149797387
>>149797847
>>149798049
>>149798176
kek namefaggijg faggot got told
classic of 4chan
this is why you never namefag
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>>149798530
Yeah my bad i thought people wouldn't sperg out over it for once, i was wrong.
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>>149798520
you clearly missed the wraithfuckers and gameisdead-faggots, otherwise you would enjoy some fresh air. nobody is stopping you to start a good discussion
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>>149798670
You are not a special case, snowflake.
You came to the wrong motherfucking anonymous image board, motherucker.
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>>149798670
You don't scare me you fuck.
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>Lower some hunter numbers
>Give them a huge buff by changing a game mechanic to favor them
>People think this is supposed to be a strong monster patch
???
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>>149798520
my post was a joke
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>>149798864
I mean wraithfuckers are alright, even if it's porn showing a game character a little love is always alright in the midst of complaining and whining.
Game is probably gonna keep dropping a few players and then stabilize when they fix the whole lobby stuff, i hope so at least, would suck only having 400 players to play with again, and seeing the same 3 monsters in gold rank tier.
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>>149799382
Sorry this is 4chan i don't know if people are joking, merely pretending, or being actually retarded anymore.
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>>149798520
sometimes i think trs is just going through the motions of patch as opposed to actually patching anything.

They just want to make it seem like their diligent really they've got no idea what they're doing.
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>>149799164
>Give them a huge buff by changing a game mechanic to favor them
You mean push Laz even deeper in the shitter?
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>>149799737
Well they are trying stuff out, they want to see how it's gonna affect game balance at all levels, cause this game is a clusterfuck to balance.

The dropship timer change is such a huge buff to hunters, but on the other side you have the grounder perk which is absolutely broken, so it's a big monster buff. They are buffing both sides to see what happens.
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L
O
D
S
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>tfw bot Lazarus is better than pug Lazarus
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>>149801674
>playing monster
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>>149801674
hhhhhhhhhhh
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>>149801689
Bot torvold is retardedly accurate, I fear them more than any human torvold.
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>>149801674
>when Assault is Torvald and he is a retard

It's great because I got lots of XP
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>>149802847
XP is constant no matter what, though.
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>>149803090
No, otherwise I could just idle in the match with 0-0-0
Itried but it gives little to none exp on the 30+ levels
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This is the best thing in entire game
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>>149803589
>>149803589
>>149803589
>>149803589
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