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Welcome to the Legend of Zelda general. Talk about Zelda games old and new, and all discussions related to the entire franchise in its various forms. Share and discuss art, music, news developments, timeline theories, speedrunning strats, etc.

/lozg/ #28 - Adult Timeline is happiest timeline edition

Previous thread: >>149524528

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/ktUtxsNR

>The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild Infobin<
http://pastebin.com/yDtHrpnN

>The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild Video Playlist<
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1XM4qU010qLdBMVB6BVNZLfo5dpp8gmT

>News/Developments<
Toon Link Cameo in Monster Hunter Generations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8iuktPe-yk

Twilight Princess Picross:
https://my.nintendo.com/rewards/93fc36d80848c6dc

TloZ - "Symphony of the Godesses" concert tour
http://zelda-symphony.com/pages/schedule

TloZ Card Game
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-legend-of-zelda-trading-cards-listed-online/1100-6439912/

Twilight Princess manga in the west
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/05/the_legend_of_zelda_twilight_princess_manga_is_coming_to_the_west

BotW Link figurine in production:
http://gonintendo.com/stories/260163-medicom-reveals-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-figurine
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Have a wonderful day
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I WANT TO FUCK FI
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Why does Ganondorf have organ magic? Seriously where does the organ in OoT disappear to?
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>>149705126
Saria will.
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>>149705886
Ganondorf stores it away the same way that Link stores away his dozens of heavy devices.
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botw Link is the Hero of Time
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>Ninth match is Nabooru VS Din
http://poal.me/gh9tg9

Usual disclaimer:
>I am just a normal guy making a poll on an anonymous imageboard. You can imagine I can't decide if a poll is rigged or if someone is cheating by posting the poll link in other threads/sites. I can't check such crazy variables. My borderline legal suggestion is: support your favourite girl and do it with all your strenght. Don't expect your adversaries to be 100% fair. That's it. And yes, we have already seen some cheats by this point.

Now, vote my friends, the poll closes in approximately 14 hours.
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Why just have one Hero when you could have two?
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>>149706137
shit poll
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>>149706137
Poor Din
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Reminder that Sheik is MALE
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>>149706097
Breath of the Wild link is Hyrule Warriors Link
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>tfw Saria is going to get the brunt of retaliation come next round

You've done more than enough my friend, you are the Best Sage and you took down Fi. Truly the hero we all deserve. The glorious Bombos Medallion lady.
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>>149706403
She got proxied, she was winning before
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>>149706097
>two eyes

I wish these chapters came out faster too.
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>>149707026
>>tfw Saria is going to get the brunt of retaliation come next round
I'm not proxying Hena, fuck that.

Peatrice might become our queen tho
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>>149707026
I don't know what the results will be, but my vote is going to Hena. I like Saria, but Hena is made of sex and sugar mama.
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>>149707235
Why Peatrice? I'm legit curious why people waifu her honestly.
>>149707280
Pic related, did you learn nothing on your adventures anon?
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>>149707462
Because she's from SS. Like Fi.
Fifags will cheat to make her win as a revenge for Fi's defeat.
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>>149707462
>I'm legit curious why people waifu her honestly.
Me as well, but the legitimacy of this poll is zero so might as well vote for the worst girl in it, it'll be a shame for the other girls but whatever.
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So I guess we know now where Breath of the Wild's huge budget must come from, and why Nintendo dropped the whole "dual-screen" mechanic, as well as why the game was delayed. It's not because they made new discoveries, this game was repurposed into the NX's flagship title.

The system is literally a Sheikah Slate incarnate. Right down to the way you have to dock it to display on a TV, like Link has to dock it to gather information.

Still don't know if this is a good or bad thing.
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>>149706097
>Hey kid
>Wanna buy some swordsmanship?
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>>149707462
Never forgive a friend zone.
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>>149707462
Peatrice is a sweet girl, and the only female I know that doesn't mistreat my personal possessions.
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>>149707629
>>149707657
Fair enough.
>>149707824
anon if she said she had a crush on you then what happens to Hyrule?

Ganondorf would have still attacked Hyrule Castle regardless and taken over.
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>>149707982
But her design though anon, I just find it, not ugly really, but not great. But personal opinions and all that.
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>>149706137
Can we just drop all pretense of this being any kind of official measure of popularity?
Might as well rename it to the "Character Having Excessively Autistic Tally Stuffers" poll, or CHEATS for short
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>>149708235
>Tally Stuffers
This is a clear euphemism for anal sex.
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>>149708235
Why autists always have to ruin something like this? Jealousy is one hell of a mental illness.
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>>149708215
I think she looks fine
Really, I could fall for a rock if it were that sweet of a girl
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>>149708215
I've known a lot of very attractive women that I am completely sick of even knowing. Personality matters.
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>>149707629
>Fifags will cheat to make her win as a revenge for Fi's defeat.
If that were the case I would just proxy SS Zelda, peatrice is shit
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>>149708061
Never
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>>149708235
>Can we just drop all pretense of this being any kind of official measure of popularity?
That was never the purpose of the bracket.
I did it to spicy up this general a bitand nothing else.
The "official" tone I gave it is highly ironic.
It was never meant to be something official nor an objectively accurate measure of popularity.

I find it really sad some specific waifu fans took it so personally, enough to cheat, get mad, ruin the fun for others and trying to hijack the whole bracket out of spite.
But that was expected, we are on 4chan.
That being said, the bracket will go on till the end, no matter what, cheats or not. Nothing stops this train.

And this is the last time I'll write a post about this argument. I really feel dirty trying to justify myself and it reeks of attention whoring, so this is the last time I'll do it.
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>>149709945
But my waifu deserves to win.
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>>149709945
It's alright man, The Fall of Fi will be talked about for threads to come, it definitely spiced things up.
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>>149710182
It's Shadow Fi now. She's evil now and she only likes evil dancing from now on.
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>>149710182
Hey, silver lining.
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>>149706703
SHEik
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>>149710283
Somebody pretty, pretty please find me a gif of Ghirarim's dank "ritual".
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>>149710283
>It's Shadow Fi now.
DO NOT try and corrupt the Fi.
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>>149710509
One of you Fifags did it yourselves.
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>>149710509
Where are you getting these?
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>>149710283
>evil dancing
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>>149710675
The kind of dancing that corrupts the youth.
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Goodnight.
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>>149710608
Z-Raid.
Go forward and spread the love of Fi.
Or get a Tulpa.
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>>149710467
Ghirahim's ritual to revive Demise was weird as shit
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>>149710849
That's hilarious, BotW is going to be full of little things like that isn't it?
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>>149710720
The kind those young witches do naked in the woods?
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>>149711093
More rebellious, and twice as naked.
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>>149711170
Ah
The black ones did such things
Before the water
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You're now aware this was the last time the Master Sword did this, meaning this act right here consumed the last of her essence.

Meanwhile Ghirahim was transferred to the Trident of Power to be a new counter to the Master Sword, so he still 'lives'.
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>>149711296
You're aware now that the Master Sword does that in every game including Wind Waker and Twilight Princess when near Ganon.
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>>149710870
Tried a tulpa, the voices in my head were already there in the first place.
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>>149710905
Yes, and that's why I want a gif of it. He does it in HW, too.
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>>149711425
It doesn't actually ever glow in WW or TP, outside of when it vibrates after getting it's power restored in WW and the Palace of Twilight in TP. Though the latter is for obvious reasons that have nothing to do with Fi.
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>>149711469
Never thought of having a proper go at it?
Not that I would presume to give you lifestyle advice.
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>>149711643
the sword is always glowing in WW after you activate it, it's more noticeable at night
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>>149711425
Fi helps in another way in WW.
She could still show up in the child line, if Link can restore the Master Sword.
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>>149712048
No, I did, but the other guy killed him. Stuffed a Glock in his ear and pulled the trigger.
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>>149712358
Sounds over dramatic to the point of being a lie, but to each their own. Best of luck to you and the glock eared other guy.
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That was a lot easier than expected

The heart ring really helped out in this fight
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New riddle. Answer this and you get the answer to the first one my enigmatic enthusiasts.

We're in a 3D Zelda, but you'll only ever see us from the point of 2D.
You cannot avoid us, or stop us, but your movement controls us.
You cannot talk to us, capture us, or so much as name us.

What are we?
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>>149712616
Yeah, it's a lie. Guess you guys would know, heh. But the tulpa I created did fade.
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>>149712705
Wallmaster
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>>149712705
Link's shadow.
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>>149712705
Did I miss the answer for that last question, the one with the Oot enemies like peahat, mad scrub, moblins?
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IT'S ABOUT FUCKING TIME, YOU LAZY PIECE OF SHIT
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>>149712956
If we answer this riddle, he'll give us the answer for the first one.
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>>149712843
>>149712881
Nope.
>>149712956
Read the first line.
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>>149712745
>the tulpa I created did fade.
You need to work at it constantly until it's self sustaining. Should you try again, try and keep a routine.
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>>149712705
IF YOU CAN'T NAME IT HOW CAN WE SAY WHAT IT IS

link's shadow
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>>149713014
Time for tree?
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>>149712140
It's a matter of the sword, it does that in TP as well. It's nowhere near the levels of the blue sky strike glow that exists towards the end of SS and it's very brief appearance in OoT. All the swords in WW and TP glow to some degree at night and in certain places.
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>>149713279
You can stop your shadow.
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>>149712705
Goriya
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>>149712632
Which heart ring?
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>>149712705
>We're in a 3D Zelda, but you'll only ever see us from the point of 2D

I swear to god, if this is from ALBW, i'm going to riot. I haven't played that game yet.
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>>149712705
clouds?
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>>149712705
Menu Screens
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>>149712705
UI
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Well, that's both of the Oracle games under my belt, from here I can either
>Get back to work on beating LoZ 1 and 2
>Try one of the GBA zeldas (Is there one other than minish cap?)
>Try one of the DS zeldas
>Pick one of the Wii Zeldas back up

>>149713570
The Level 2 one that regenerates
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>>149712705
Sun/Moon
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>>149713706
Nope.
>>149713821
>>149713913
By saying "you'll only ever see us from the point of 2D," I meant to connote it not being two-dimensional.
>>149713705
I cannot confirm or deny.
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>>149714107
There is ALttP/Four Swords for GBA, though I don't know if that can be jerry-rigged to play Four Swords.

I vote for AoL, go and suffer like some of us have.
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>>149712705
The fucking puzzle from TP with the two giants before the Master Sword?
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>>149714107
Go for A Link to the Past
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>>149714165
Nope.
>>149714267
Nope, but that's a really good freaking guess.
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>>149712705
Flying Tiles?
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>>149714368
>Nope, but that's a really good freaking guess
Then you need to give me another hint because with the ones I have, I reach the TP puzzle conclusion
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>>149713297
i'm pretty sure the blue glow the sword had in OoT came from Zelda doing something to the sword
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>>149714442
Nope.
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>>149714502
I'll tell you, you're on the right track about the 3D/2D perspective.
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>>149714680
I don't know then, the moving worms from the 2D underground sections in SS after you get the upgraded mitts?
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>>149712705
Define 3D Zelda, does ALBW, PH, and ST count as 3D technically?
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>>149714809
nope.
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>>149715065
3D, in other words, to say not 2D...

But FINE, the query is not among those.
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>>149714307
Alright anon, just for you, I won't eat, drink, or sleep until I finish alttp
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>>149715751
Have fun
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>>149712705
Rollgoal
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Anon who drew this, got any more art like it? I like Saria's face. What did you trace it off, if you did?
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>>149716813
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>>149716813
reminder that Link never saw Midna again and never got to tap that

I'm really looking forward to how the manga portrays Link and Midna's relationship. Mostly the mangas have the ladies lusting after Link but I wonder if the authors will do something different in this one.
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>>149716902
Not the artist, but >>149601143
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>>149716902
I made a few shitty ones last thread, they're not great though.

It's just Amuro's face from Gundam Zeta, from the OP. I just looked at it and did my best to keep it as accurate as possible, though my hand shakes sometimes using a mouse unfortunately.

Mostly trying to learn how to draw different things other than black/white chiaroscuro type things.
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>>149717024
All it takes to cross from one world to the next is an enchanted hand mirror in zelda.
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I didn't think the game would be this easy
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>>149717681
It happens.
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>>149717948
>he played the GBA version
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>>149718559
>he played the gross version
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>>149712705
>another riddle to get the answer to the first riddle

You're the devil.
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>>149718559
It was so I could do the extra stuff within it to to get more screenshots. Besides I have no problem with the GBA version, while I understand why some people would get annoyed, especially when it comes to the Young Link voice, it doesn't personally bother me, I do however prefer the SNES voice.
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>>149706097
I fucking hope not and I'm admitting this even though the Hero of Time is my all-time favorite Link.

It would feel too much like forced nostalgia and fanservice. Nintendo had their chance to create that third finale Hero of Time game, but now it's a case of too little; too late.

They would be better off making a direct sequel to TP in this regard.
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>Cia will never give you the time you need to complete your bombers notebook.
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>>149717284
>Mirror of Twilight is the only way to the Twilight Realm
>Mirror broken
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>>149719181
>Cia will never make you an immortal God until she loses interest because you become a bitter fuck as you get older
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>>149719318
>Cia will never come down to you when you're a bitter fuck and make you vigorous again
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>>149719569
I still have my Sage friends in the background.
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Which sage died in TP?
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>>149720197
Water Sage. It's not Ruto though. I always took that the Sages in TP are the original ancient Sages, and those spirits/beings enter into the ones we know from OoT to awaken them.

Rauru is a weird exception since he says he's an Ancient Sage as well, so maybe they can switch between the two?
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>>149720343
I think you're right with the first assumption, they basically power the sages in OoT, Rauru is just bridging the gap.
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Alright Ganon, you better get ready for me to fuck your shit up!
Because you're going to have plenty of time to do it while I grind out rupees for potions
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Don't know what the specifics will be, but I want one.
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4198642435/
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>>149720343
>Killed water sage.
>Killed Rutela
Maybe Ganondorf was afraid of the job getting re-staffed. A full set could have sealed him away.
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How proud do you think the Hero of Time was over all of his direct successors?

They all manage to kill Ganon when he could only seal him. (WW can be argued). Hell one of them manages to kill him twice.
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>>149720719
>That artbook is titled The Legend of Zelda: Hyrule Graphics, and features 416 pages of artworks of the various Zelda games.

http://www.perfectly-nintendo.com/daily-briefs-july20-the-legend-zelda-artbook/

So basically another HH, which is nice.
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>>149721140
>So basically another HH
Licensed?
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>>149721205
I'm assuming yes, it's by the Nintendo Dream staff.
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>>149720416
Yeah, it would make sense considering the differences. The OoT Sages weren't awakened in the Child Timeline either.
>>149720740
I don't know if they are actual descendants though. Like the Kokiri/Koroks for instance, I don't think they can actually breed, but maybe their descendants come from the same tree or seedlings or something.

Then you have the problem with the FSA Sages and Downfall Sages, where the majority of them are Hylian outside of Queen Oren and Rosso (who appears to be half Goron).

I think just certain people awaken to be Sages and that's that. Like Irene's grandmother (who I assume is Maple, the little assistant from ALttP) isn't a Sage, but Irene is.

I think it's just people who happen to awaken as Sages, and they're 'descendants' in the same way TP Link is the 'son/heir' of the Hero's Shade.
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>>149721396
>Nintendo Dream staff.
Excuse my ignorance, but who?
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>>149721659
Nintendo only Japanese magazine
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>>149721951
Wiggy. Colour me intrigued.
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Friendly reminder that Hena is naked under her waders.
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DAT.
FUCKING.
MOOSH.
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>>149723431
Well technically we are all naked under our clothes, so you're not entirely wrong.
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>>149724595
But her clothes are waterproof latex.
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>NX will be portable and weaker than a fucking PS3 most likely

Tell me this isn't real please. I already skipped the Wii U and I really want to buy Nintendo again but this is just dumb.
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>>149724907
Still clothes.

>>149724952
>believing rumors
We have no idea what it is, so until Ninty themselves reveals it, trust nothing.
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>>149725137
>believing rumors
I know they're rumors, but still after all Nintendo has done I just can't keep my hopes up so strongly
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>>149712705
The camera?
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>>149724952
I highly doubt it'll be weaker than a PS3. While I know Nintendo does do things quite often, I don't think they're that stupid. The Wii U is already on par with the PS3/360 as far as some games go, I can't imagine they'd go that far backwards, especially when one of the selling points is BotW, it'd likely look and run worse than the Wii U version. That's not a good PR move, let alone a good move period.
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I wish I could find some art of Zelda standing over Link's resurrection chamber, in tears, begging him to open his eyes.

I just want to see it when I listen to her sad voice during the intro for the feels it will give me.

Give me the feels anons, I want the feels...
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>>149726713
It's a little annoying that we don't know who Link is. I've never liked Amnesia plots but I guess it might work for this game.
BotW Link is Skyward Sword Link.
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>>149726713
dude wait for the game to be released so we know what's really the deal with the chamber or DIY
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>>149726857
>BotW Link is Skyward Sword Link.
No, he lived happily ever after along Zelda and they repopulated earth together.
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>>149726713
I'm pretty sure everyone's been hesitant to draw BotW Zelda at all, considering that we don't even know what she looks like or what her situation is. You'd be better off in the land of pure text.
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>>149726901
>>149726857

> implying that I that I don't know

You hear zelda begging link to wake up at the start of the game, all I want is a bit of visual cue for I can jerk off with my tears
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>>149727083
Zelda hasn't changed much visually in the past few games so I'm pretty sure just a reference of any one of those zelda's would be fine
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>>149727281
she didn't sound sad, and even less in the japanese version
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>>149727083
she will be an old lady
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>>149726713
Prepare for the tears.
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>>149728293
Perfect thank you anon, I'll be back in an hour
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>>149727523
>even less in the japanese version
Japanese VA is just moe garbage
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>>149728293
Damn look at Link's bulge, he isn't the only one enjoying the tears
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>>149706097

> Link is defeated in oot causing the third split

> zelda and the others take link's dead/unconscious body to a resurrection chamber

> they somehow put a seal on Ganon who has gone berserk after his transformation

> knowing it won't hold forever they wait for link to recover to put a stop to him

> botw is the hero of time's redemption
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>>149729963
Why would it take so long for Link to wake up then?
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>>149729963
Ganon stays sealed until LTTP. No room for a midquel in the story.
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>>149730204
I dunno I've never been resurrected before, but judging on how fucked up hyrule is because of Ganon and knowing Link was involved in it I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say he got his ass handed to him and it took a while for that trauma to heal, you gotta remember Link had amnesia in this game.
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>>149730484

Ganondorf has been sealed in a bunch of games oot, ww, tp, etc. Your point doesn't mean much, he always gets out. It just means he gets placed back into another seal.
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>>149730484
This is set hundreds of year after AoL
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>>149731102
Ganondorf was sealed on OOT. He was killed in WW, TP, and LTTP. 1
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>>149730484
The master sword also sleeps again forever in LttP. Doesn't stop them from using it again in LBW
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>>149731712
LTTP uses OOT as its backstory. It does not leave room for Ganon in the middle.
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>>149731707
The point was he was sealed in those games but got out.

WW escaped the flood

TP escaped the twilight realm
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>>149732414
Those games do not float around generically. Ganon is in the condition he was in for specific reasons that the games included.
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>>149732752
Botw is no different, if this is the precursor to alttp it will still fit. Right now hyrule is in a bad state, we don't know how the citys/towns are doing in botw, but judging by hyrule castle they aren't going to fair much better.

In a alttp the castle was in a much better shape so were the towns even though ganon influence was felt across the land.

Botw is different though ever since the calamity took place hyrule has been going downhill and ganon is even more of a threat this time because he wasn't sealed in another realm, but in hyrule castle itself, making his influence that much detrimental to the land.

If this game is the one that explains how he ended up in the dark world and made it his own it would still fit alttp story.
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I'm betting Breath of the Wild takes place in the Adult timeline a ways after Spirit Tracks.
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>>149734992
Hyrule was buried under the sea forever due to the king's wish at the end of ww, they found a new land and called it new hyrule in ST.

Even if the water receded in that timeline after ST the temple of time wouldn't be where it is in botw due to them building the castle over the temple of time in WW. If it was the adult timeline we are seeing in botw the castle would be where the temple of time is right now.

I would also mentioned they killed Ganondorf in WW, but they find ways to bring him back from the dead like in Ooa/Oos
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>>149734882
I don't know why you want to try cram an extra game between OOT and LttP, when LttP clearly leaves no room in the Imprisoning War for there to be an intermediate escape. OOT already covers everything that LttP includes, especially the Dark World.
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>>149735721
i'm sure ganon wasn't killed in WW, he got sealed away(turned to stone)
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>>149736173
Look at the timeline chart in the HH, on the defeated timeline side after link is defeated there's a annotation that says "sealing war" before it gets to alttp

I would like to believe Nintendo might want to show how link lost his battle during the 3rd split which is why they mentioned that you will be recovering his memories in botw.

The sealing war describes the hero rising from the ranks of the hyule knights to defeat ganon, this could very well be the sealing war.

From the information presented to us this is the most likely scenario
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>>149736871
He's dead. It's just a bloodless cartoon death. Dead with no triforce pieces. One the bottom of the sea. Half a world away from New Hyrule.
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>>149736871
Ganon was defeated in a similar fashion as he was in a TP in which case he died, I'm not saying he wasn't sealed, it could be possible, just that since he was impaled in TP and died I think a headshot would do the same in WW.
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>>149736934
OOT is the IW. It was made specifically to be the IW. It's over and done.
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>>149737281
>OOT is the IW. It was made specifically to be the IW. It's over and done.
Are you really this retarded?
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>>149737281
Tell that to nintendo
>>149737263
Thank you for posting that, you can see after link is defeated there was a sealing war, it could mean him being sealed in hyrule castle like he is in botw or the events that are about to take place in botw
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>>149737119
>>149737223
well i'm not really sure why i got to the conclusion that he never died, i think i read it somewhere but maybe it was because he kept talking even after he was impaled
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>>149735721
Wishes aren't forever with the Triforce, only to that person dies. The Triforce itself says this at the end of ALttP and it's mentioned a few times within it.

I don't think it's the adult timeline by any means, I think it's either in between OoT/ALttP with some slight retcons or MM and TP with some slight retcons.

But Triforce wishes don't last forever. It's only a problem with Ganondorf due to his immortality or seemingly having immortality. Though Daphnes could also be immortal considering the length he's been around, or he's just a weird ghost, considering how he moves around and possesses a boat. But then you wonder if sealing Hyrule and giving the generation to the Hero of Winds and Tetra/Zelda wasn't his Song of Healing too.
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>>149737565
They do that in movies too anon, it's for dramatic effect
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>>149737537
>it could mean him being sealed in hyrule castle like he is in botw or the events that are about to take place in botw
No, it means that after Link was defeated, there was a war against Ganon that ended with him IMPRISONED in the Dark World.

Then people wanted the Triforce power and went into the Dark World to never return, because they got turned into animals and shit, then the King ordered to seal the Dark Realm and Aganhim shows up, fucks up shit and ALTTP happens.
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>>149737396

http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/new-ocarina-of-time-interview-reveals-confirms-and-unearths-many-things-about-oot-excellent-read.197507371/
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>>149737263
I wonder what a Hyrule Warriors timeline would look like. Because while it's in it's own timeline, it still has to connect with all the games, I don't believe she's ripping all these characters from the main timelines, because that'd still create problems. All the Links and stuff would have to come from the spin-off timeline and their timeline splits.
>>149737281
That was the case at one point, but now due to TP and WW causing ALttP to be forced into a third timeline and for that to make sense, then OoT=IW had to be retconned with the Historia.

They should have put ALttP into a branching timeline from the SS Demise/Imprisoned Paradox, that way you can shove as many games as you want in between those two with no real problem.
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>>149737872
Bro, fucking look at the picture.

The IW happens AFTER Link loses against Ganon. It's right there in the CANON book for Zelda lore.
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>>149737673
but...a sword to the head, also why is WW the only time where he is turned to stone
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>>149738084
Because it was Ganondorf taking a sword to the head, killing him.

In OoT it's Ganon still with the Triforce that takes the hit, and in TP he takes the sword in the chest.
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>>149738017
The only event remaining, is the actual literally sealing by the sages that Link collected in game. Literally the same sealing you saw with your own eyes while playing, with the one exception of Link being dead. You are trying to invint a set of events in the middle that are a clone of OOT's events.
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>>149737872
this should be added when making a new thread

>>149738196
what?
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>>149738382
>what?
You asked why he turns to stone and I told you why.
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>>149737872
>The team didn't want Saria to eclipse Zelda...too bad for all the Saria romantic fanfic writers out there! Here's the quote: Now we also have the appearance of Saria, the forest girl. Though someone else was in charge of creating her, I’ve taken a liking to her. I was, however, conscious of the fact that I had to make it so that Saria’s character didn’t eclipse Zelda’s in the series.

I think you fucked up hard on that point Miyamoto. Saria is fucking beloved by tons of people. Didn't help that she clearly had feelings for the Hero of Time either and that Zelda was a colossal fuck up and her only claim to fame is Sheik in Smash Brothers, considering Sheik doesn't do fuck all half the time either outside of teaching you some songs and running away.
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>>149738328
>You are trying to invint a set of events in the middle that are a clone of OOT's events.
I'm not trying to "invint" anything here.

If link is dead, he doesn't deal the final blow, because he's absolutely, irreversibly dead and lost the final fight. So no, OoT is not the IW. After Link loses, there are events of which have almost no information other than "it happens".
They are not in any way similar to OoT. OoT ending as it is gives you insight into the Ault Timeline, where Ganon is dead, later revived and thanks to Zelda, there's no Hero, so Hyrule is flooded as per WW intro.
The other side of the coin you see if Link back in time meeting zelda for the first time, with all the knowledge of the Adult Timeline, as a trigger for the Child Timeline.

The Downfall timeline is not shown in the game at all, it's only introduced in HH as a means to enable a logical split for the Downfall games to coexist with the others.

If you don't understand what I'm saying, I can try explaining myself clearer, I know I can write up messy stuff. Just reply and I'll try to help you out with any doubts you might have.
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>>149738704
>Saria is fucking beloved by tons of people
>The team didn't want Saria to eclipse Zelda
clearly, they did a shit job
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GUYS STOP ARGUING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-

We already went over this in the last thread and decided it was too far-fetched that OoT is the IW, and there's only two timelines which diverge because Nintendo added the Oracle games in as a contingency measure!

That quote in the interview was said by the character designer and while none of the storyboard writers were present. He doesn't know what he's talking about!
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>>149738873
it's canon because nintendo says so, your argument is invalid.
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>>149738328
Things have been retconned anon.

OoT as the IW never made sense anyways.

>Ganon has the entire Triforce in ALttP (not just the Triforce of Power)
>Ganon brought an army to attack the Sacred Realm (this contradicts OoT where he just casually strolled behind Link and got a piece of the Triforce, not the whole)
>The King is fucking dead in OoT 7 years prior to that, the King is the one who ordered the Wise Men to seal Ganon up when he attacked

There is clearly a period in between the two that doesn't make sense. What makes sense now based on the Historia is that Ganondorf was sealed by the Seven Sages, he breaks out and takes an army to attack Hyrule Castle. Zelda's kid (likely also Daphnes in this timeline too) instead of relying on the Triforce to flood the world, fights back with the Seven Wise Men and Knights of Hyrule and seals him in the Sacred Realm.

This could be the events of BotW just fine.
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>>149739019
>there's only two timelines which diverge
That's clearly not the case.

>>149739128
That's what I'm saying you know? HH is canon.
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>>149739128
>seriously is going there.
>seriously.

METROID GENERAL!! WOoT, I KNEW THERE WAS DEMAND FOR /momg/ SOMEWHERE ON THE NET.
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>>149738930
This is why she'll never appear in a game again, same with Midna. They don't want them to eclipse their precious Zelda.
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>>149738873
The IW doesn't include Link giving the final blow. It doesn't invoke Links deeds at all. He is a forgotten knight.
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>>149739221
>What makes sense now based on the Historia is that Ganondorf was sealed by the Seven Sages, he breaks out and takes an army to attack Hyrule Castle. Zelda's kid (likely also Daphnes in this timeline too) instead of relying on the Triforce to flood the world, fights back with the Seven Wise Men and Knights of Hyrule and seals him in the Sacred Realm.
This makes no sense at all anon.

Last fight against Ganon > Link loses > Ganon still there > cue IW > Cue ALTTP

IW has not been expanded on at all. As it is right now, it only exists with no details other than there was no Hero, no flood, and Ganon ending up sealed in the Sacred Realm in order for ALTTP to happen.
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>>149739528
The IW can't cue, there is no King, there are no Knights anymore. They're all fucking dead. Time needs to pass so there are more Knights, another King.
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>>149739463
>It doesn't invoke Links deeds at all
Because he's fucking dead, not because he's a forgotten hero, where the fuck did you get the idea that a dead Link in the final fight becomes a forgotten Hero? He didn't kill the villain, he didn't become a Hero of anything, he died. Other people had to seal Ganon, that's the IW
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>>149739221
>>The King is fucking dead in OoT 7 years prior to that, the King is the one who ordered the Wise Men to seal Ganon up when he attacked
Oh wow, I've seen the introduction to ALttP countless times and this never even occurred to me. Only that the Sages are dead in OoT.
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>>149739221
Ganondorf attacks Hyrule in OOT. You are writing a fanfic escape, just so you can turn around and repeat the OOT attack and sealing.
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The *LEGEND* of Zelda
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>>149739653
Ganondorf attacks Hyrule Castle, yes. He does not attack the Sacred Realm, he does not attack Castle Town. He attacks nothing but the Castle. This contradicts what is known from ALttP. Where he attacked the Sacred Realm, he attacked everything, with an army. An army of minions he kills immediately afterwards, and it to this day is still contradicted as he has the entire Triforce the moment he stepped into the Sacred Realm, not just a piece, the entire thing.

It's not fanfic, it's not headcanon, it's facts from both ALttP and OoT.
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>>149739702
The "last refuge of those who lost an argument" semantics.
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>>149739635
>The IW can't cue, there is no King, there are no Knights anymore. They're all fucking dead. Time needs to pass so there are more Knights, another King.
We have no information as to what or how the IW happened, other than it did after Link dies in the final fight.

After Ganon is sealed, in whatever way Nintendo comes up with in the future, shit starts coming out of the Sacred Realm, the King orders to seal the sacred realm, which they do, but then a wizard appears and fucks shit up.

Again, IW only happens, we don't know how, we don't know who, all we know is it's an alternate Adult Timeline where Link lost.

That's it, Link loses and then some how Ganon ends in the Sacred Realm
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>>149739860
The first think Link is told when he pulls the Master Sword, is how Ganondorf got into the Sacred Realm and killed the sages. It was OOT retelling the IW. Did you not play the games?
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>>149739702
While Legends change over time, there are some events that are highly unlikely to change. Such as whether or not a King dies or lives. While how he lives or dies may change, whether he does is almost guaranteed not to, especially given the rather couple/few centuries in between there. History would still be written down for the ruling family of the entire country.

Even then you have a problem with the timeline when you realize that Nintendo has the Child Timeline as the Main Timeline and Natural Progression, when it shouldn't even exist in the first place and only does due to the events of Zelda. The Hero of Time's natural progression was being sealed and aging, that's natural, that doesn't split from the Child Timeline, the Child Timeline splits from it. Downfall or Adult should be the natural progression, which likely Adult being the Main Timeline.
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>>149739860
>He does not attack the Sacred Realm, he does not attack Castle Town. He attacks nothing but the Castle. This contradicts what is known from ALttP. Where he attacked the Sacred Realm,

MORE ANON. PLEASE KEEP TALKING AND GRACING US WITH THE RICH WATERS OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE.
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>>149740057
OOT told you the Imprisoning War. The sages names live on as city names in AoL.
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>>149740157
Child Timeline is the main one simply because Zelda will always send Link back in time after he's done in the Adult timeline.
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>>149740262
It does not, read HH
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>>149706703
second
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>>149740379
HH confirmed that it is. Read the text instead of just trying to bend the chart to your fan fiction.
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>>149740084
No, the first thing the Hero of Time is told when awakening is that Ganondorf followed in after him into the Sacred Realm. While sure that can be assumed to be an invasion, it's completely different from the events of ALttP in how it transpired, and still contradicts him having the entire Triforce and how he managed to get it.

Sure you can say he took Courage and Wisdom from Zelda in the OoT failure state, but that isn't how he got it in the IW, he got the entire thing from the Sacred Realm, all in one piece, it never broke.

ALttP makes no sense being where it's at in the timeline due to the Triforce, just as it makes no sense for it to be connected to OoT, and it never has beyond the Sages and the Sacred Realm exist.

Hell ALBW Link having the Triforce of Courage makes no sense as the Triforce wasn't passed down in the Downfall Timeline through the Hero's like it's not in the Adult Timeline. Yet he still has it, despite ALttP Link never causing the thing to split at all, or Ganon himself.

They don't understand time travel or their own material half the time, so they need to stop fucking with it. They're causing way too many problems.

Hell you can fix every single one of these problems with ease.

ALttP's timeline and it's following games comes from SS's paradox. That way you can introduce a different IW, no Triforce split, etc. The only issue is the split Triforce showing up in ALBW, and that can be easily dealt with by just calling it the Mark of the Triforce, just like TP Link has, and that it's nothing more a sign of being a Hero, not the Triforce itself, and just say the glowing effect when they're within vicinity of each other in ALBW was a mistake.

Simple.
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>>149740583
>Link dies in the final fight not achieving his goal
>but it is the imprisoning war
Please tell me your reasoning for this, I'm not baiting, I really want to know.
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>>149740273
If you assume that FSA isn't really canon, like most people, then the child line is a clear open field on which they could place any stories easily.
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>>149740273
That still doesn't make it the main timeline.

This is how it actually looks.
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>>149740926
That line fucks more things up that I have time to explain.

Also you just drew the same thing that's in HH, good job.
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>>149741119
Also derp, I forgot to say that Nintendo treats Childhood as main because they do this from Link's perspective.
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>>149740707
Ganon was imprisoned by the sages. Link's work was to awaken those sages. When Link lost to Ganon, Ganon completed the triforce. As they told you in LttP, Ganon had to be kept in the Sacred Realm because he would be too strong if allowed to exist in the outside world. This means the sages had no choice but to seal Ganon immediately as Link perished.
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>>149741119
Sure that line was unneeded. However that is not the same thing in HH. Historia has the straight timeline go through and into the Child Timeline, making it the Main Timeline, which Historia also states. That means it's the natural progression of things, which is a straight lie.

If anything, the natural progression of things without any single intervention of time-travel, would actually be the Downfall Timeline, as Link never would have gotten involved, Ganon would have attacked the Sacred Realm gaining the entire Triforce, leading to the IW, and then ALttP.

The natural progression is that Link ages. Child Timeline only and only exists due to Zelda. Downfall and Adult would continue to exist regardless, that makes one of those two the Main Timeline and should be the straight line from SS, the natural progression. Which means that with Link invention the Adult Timeline is the main one, without Link intervention then the Downfall Timeline is the natural one, and Downfall could easily be fixed by saying "Link never got involved" as opposed to "Link failed at the end of OoT".
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>>149740262
>>149740084
If you're the same guy, then never in all my years have I seen someone change the goalpost and contradict themselves to quickly in one thread. This has to be a new world record or something.

>>149740645
>ALttP's timeline and it's following games comes from SS's paradox. That way you can introduce a different IW, no Triforce split, etc.
Now I remember you. I don't know if I like this idea t-b-h knowledge anon.

It is more appealing than what we have, but it doesn't connect with FSA which is definitely after TP because the Deku Scrubs have recently awoken and the Twili are mentioned.
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>>149741614
>than what we have.

Er, I mean what HH claims. -_-
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>>149741250
Which is stupid, that isn't how that works. As much as I love Zelda, I really do, I love every single game barring the CD-i ones, they need to stop using time travel, they have no idea how to properly utilize it at fucking all. This is all a mess solely because there are timelines, and because of WW and TP, and I fucking love WW it's in my Top 3 games of all time, but because WW and TP are direct sequels to OoT as well, it massively fucks up ALttP and with a series that has already been stated to cause timeline splits with OoT, you're just getting into stupid territory. They could have spent all of 5-10 minutes more on a backstory for WW and TP that didn't involve those events and had them fit anywhere perfectly fine without screwing up a damn thing.
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>>149741614
>It is more appealing than what we have, but it doesn't connect with FSA which is definitely after TP because the Deku Scrubs have recently awoken and the Twili are mentioned.

FSA would be fine fitting in after TP in the Child Timeline still. Only Downfall would stem from SS.
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>>149741529
I see what you mean, and it actually makes a lot of sense. I'm honestly not sure on the "seal Ganon as Link perished" part but we are basically just disagreeing to some extent in how long it took the sages to seal Ganon. Thanks for posting that.

>>149741538
This post is a mess, Childtimeline being the main one is a non issue, and it's not a lie since it's from Link's perespective
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>>149741823
>Which is stupid, that isn't how that works.
It's a concept, there no such thing as MAIN anything when it comes to timelines. In any case Adult timeline has more games than Child.
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>>149741965
>This post is a mess, Childtimeline being the main one is a non issue, and it's not a lie since it's from Link's perespective

Look at it this way.

>The Year is 2016
>7 years pass, it is now 2023
>You live out a few weeks or months within 2023
>You are sent back in time to 2016, creating an alternate timeline that never should have existed (Child Timeline)
>The 2023 timeline you just came from still exists
>It's the natural progression of what should have been

While yes, from your perspective, 2016-B is now your main timeline, but it's not THE main timeline, 2023-A is.
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There is no such thing as a "main" timeline.
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>>149742164
>>149742287
You guys do realize they call it a timeline, because it's a straight line right? When you start getting into separated branches, it causes Timeline Bs, Cs, Ds, Gs, Qs, Vs, whatever. Timeline A would be a main timeline, it's the one that naturally exists, and in Zelda's case that's either Downfall or Adult, their only differences being the ending, which you can not accurately judge which ending should have happened had there been no timeline splits.

If there were no timeline splits, Child Timeline never would have existed, that's not the main anything. However Downfall or Adult would, depending on whether Link should have naturally won or lost, which cancels out the other one as in this scenario timelines don't exist.

That makes one of them the main timelines. It's seriously a stupidly easy concept to understand that it's child levels of logic. Certain events happen naturally without invention or splits. Splits only occur due to event triggers caused by the natural progression existing in the first place.
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>>149741964
>FSA would be fine fitting in after TP in the Child Timeline still. Only Downfall would stem from SS.
I know that's probably what you meant. Sorry anon but you've grown too powerful in this thread. I'm going to have to put you in your place.

ALttP has to come post-FSA because the world is flooded in FSA and the cause behind ALttP's backdrop is that Hyrule is amidst a drought. Furthermore, FSA leads into ALttP Four Swords, the very first game in that series, and the only game that shows how it ends.

Granted, this does contradict AST because the Dark World is destroyed at the end of the game, but alas, the Four Four Swords games overrule one Zelda spin-off.
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>implying BotW won't take place in the timeline where Ganondorf actually touched the triforce
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>>149742809
While that is a possibility, if ALttP came post-FSA then that just makes FSA the IW, and it would mean SS->MC->FSA->ALttP. It wouldn't change much honestly.

ALttP being after OoT is what causes problems due to their differences, it causes certain other games to only be placed within a specific spot when they could logically be placed anywhere.

Look at LoZ/AoL for instance, they could go in any timeline honestly. But they chose to toss it in Downfall, solely because of the name of that timeline corresponds to LoZ/AoL's Hyrule being in a Downfall. It's silly and asinine reasoning, when it actually makes more sense to be after ST honestly due to the water and the eastern ocean.

Honestly, Nintendo didn't think too much on the timeline and just threw it out to shut people up. When all it's done is cause more arguing.
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>24 posters
>240 replies
holy shit where is everyone
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>>149743294
Asleep probably, or busy doing things. Most of the threads are like this. One moment there are 20-25 posters and the next thing there are like 45-60.
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>>149743075
Then why is he regaining power when he should instead be the reigning ruler of Hyrule?
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BotW's Calamity Ganon is probably the partial resurrection of a previously killed Ganondorf.
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>>149745504
Or he's one of Ganon's attempts to escape the Sacred Realm or Twilight Realm which is why he's all weird and shadowy.
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>>149745703
Those two imprisonments have already been resolved by killing him.
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>>149745847
I mean like, maybe there is a time where he attempts to escape but it doesn't work out. Like say, he tries to escape the Twilight Realm, he doesn't have a physical body at this point, so he just appears as some type of weird Calamity Shadow Beast, before being defeated, yet still trapped in the Twilight Realm, where he seeks out Zant eventually.

I mean it could work, it'd take some working around, but possible, doubtful, but possible.
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When is Midna coming back?
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>>149746007
They would have mentioned something like that if he had tried to escape before. It would be a very big deal.
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>>149746081
NEVER
EVER
Just like how Link never ever got to hit that
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>>149746201
Ugh that image is so bad
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>>149746081
>Midna died of old age while Link hibernated.
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>>149744725
the true power is actually getting his body back, when he became super powerful, ganon got separated from ganondorf and now both individuals are seeking to get themselves to be 1 again
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>>149746974
Doesn't make sense. How is Ganon a different entity?
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This is most likely case for botw story

> Link is defeated by Ganon, master sword either lost it's power because of this or for some other reason, which is why it's battled damaged in the botw e3 trailer

> Ganon loses his abilty to return to his human form due to his power growing immensely because Link wasn't there to put him in check. Link could had push ganon too far as seen in oot and he exerted so much power to defeat Link that people considered it a calamity.

> In botw zelda calls him the beast which goes along with how he described in the defeated timeline, alttp even decribed him as once being human, but because of the power of the triforce he became a beast

> since Link was beaten and nearly or was dead, zelda and the shiekah moved him and the master sword to a different location for ganon and his minions wouldn't destroy the only hope for hyrule.

> the master sword was stated to have been moved to the lost woods to keep evil from causing it any harm, how it got there is another matter, probably zelda moved it herself after link was secured

> due to Link's condition they placed him in a chamber to recover, he most likely was at death's door and the process for his recovery reflected that forcing him into a 100 sleep

> botw explaines how the calamity and link going into his slumber happen at the same time

> it's been known that people who suffered great traumatic experiences such as dying and coming back out even going comatose will suffer from amnesia, just as Link is right now

The thing is Nintendo Zelda timeline follows a very simple way of thinking, before the introduction of the 3rd split people were mostly right on the timeline order of the games, even going as far as splitting them which made sense.

The same train of thought follows botw, we have all the information from previous games including a book, nintendo doesn't go crazy with the timeline, the biggest wrench was the fallen timeline.
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>>149746974
The whole ganon is split theory always sounds like something a kid age 13 and below would say. It's something out of fanfic, which is why it shouldn't be consider anything but headcanon.
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How JRPGish will BotW plot be?
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>>149750247
Why am here, if only to suffer?

- Hero of Time
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>>149751203
> Zelda: Ganon sent us straight to hell, took everything we had, but we're going even deeper

> Link: But Zelda...I am the light...
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This took awhile to draw, drew it very clearly based on one of the concept arts of Link and Saria playing the Ocarina in the Sacred Meadow. It might be perfect or match up as well, and feet/hands are always a bitch, but, there ya go.
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>>149724952
It's a handheld, cunt. If it manages to be more powerful than a Vita, it will be great.
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>>149754423
Something I've never seen discussed its the differences from what they showed us at e3 and the videos we have of botw before e3, there had been changes to the game interface that's never mentioned in the boards.
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>>149755365
Well, that's the kind of changes that happen during development. Webm related was still a beta.
I suspect the final game might be different again from the E3 demo.
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>>149755365
Just development changes. Probably some things that needed to be a little more streamlined I imagine.
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>>149755519
>>149756091
This is true, but still worthy of discussion. For example, before twilight princess was delayed the twilight realm was originally grey scale, but after it's delay they implemented that beautiful twilight filter we have today.

So in light of that what could they have removed, in the old video they shown there was a green bar under link's health which usually indicated his magic bar. Is it still in the game? Did they opt out of it for the shiekah slate timer? Was it his stamina bar?

Things like that could help see what the gameplay could've been like if they have released it sooner.
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>>149757342
It probably was a magic bar, and probably removed because having to get jars and stuff might take away from just mindlessly using your abilities as we've seen in the recent demo.

Could still be in the game though and the items we've seen just don't use Magic, despite one of them being the Fire Rod (granted there are multiples of these within the game we've seen). The old Demo did take place in a completely different section of Hyrule on the Far East. As much as Magic has been a staple in Zelda, it is awfully restrictive and can sometimes be a huge pain in the ass with no way around it. Such as getting to the end of Stone Tower and not having the Magic to use Light Arrows against the Cyclops before Twinmold, which is certainly possible and requires either having potions or milk on hand, or backtracking to find some magic.

I mean going to find some simple jars isn't that big of a deal, but I imagine with the crafting system they'd prefer if you just crafted green potion and opted out the jars completely, which would make sense and make magic items a real chore at times.
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>>149754423
Shadow of mordor
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>>149751880
>You are the light that must shine upon Hyrule once again
>Once again
>ONCE AGAIN
Whoever denies BotW Link is a Link we already met in another game is nuts.
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>>149761929
Well it could be taken that he's just a new Hero. Like how they mention at times "You're the chosen hero come again." I mean that could be taken to be a former Link, but could also be taken to be a new Link. Same case here.
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>>149761929
just say it man, everyone already knows it's the hero of time, people are just in denial for whatever reason like it's going to be the downfall of the game
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>>149762797
That's a funny way to spell "Hero of Winds".
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>>149762879
I think you mean the Chosen Hero of the Gods; The Hero of Twilight. Look anon, holograms, technology!
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Reminder that Link is very very cute.
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>>149750247

I think it's more like this:

>Link is defeated by a Ganon who draws on so much power he becomes Calamity Ganon

>Zelda uses the Ocarina and creates a split which becomes the downfall timeline whilst she continues into the child or adult, a later split

>The Sages seal Ganon unsatisfactorily and Link is placed in the resurrection chamber

>Impa summons the Sheikah tribe as a whole and they use their magic and technology to battle Ganon

>Ganon's power corrupts some of the guardians and a war rages destroying Castle Town and the Temple of Time

>Ganon's seal is improved but his corrupted Guardians run amok on the land without his guidance

>Now his seal is weakening and Link is ready to face him again with some guidance
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>>149765096

>Zelda uses the Ocarina and creates a split which becomes the downfall timeline whilst she continues into the child or adult, a later split

If that was the case she wouldn't be talking to Link through the shiekah slate
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>>149765335

100 years later, who's to say it's the same Zelda
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>>149765561
Old man does when he asks Link if he remembers the voice
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>>149765096
It more logically happens this way.

>Adult/Child Timeline-Ocarina of Time Begins
>Adult/Child Timeline-Kokiri Emblem
>Adult/Child Timeline-Meeting Zelda
>Child Timeline-Ganondorf is arrested
>Child Timeline-Queue Majora's Mask, Twilight Princess, Four Swords Adventure
>Adult Timeline-Goron Ruby
>Adult Timeline-Zora Sapphire
>Adult Timeline-Ganondorf attacks Hyrule Castle/Ocarina of Time Acquired
>Adult/Downfall Timeline-Bottom of the Well
>Adult/Downfall Timeline-Spirit Temple
>Adult/Downfall Timeline-Master Sword is Drawn/7 Years Later
>Adult/Downfall Timeline-Forest Temple
>Adult/Downfall Timeline-Fire Temple
>Adult/Downfall Timeline-Water Temple
>Adult/Downfall Timeline-Song of Storms Paradox/Downfall Creation
>Adult/Downfall Timeline-Shadow Temple
>Adult/Downfall Timeline-Spirit Temple
>Adult/Downfall Timeline-Ganon's Castle
>Adult Timeline-Hero of Time Defeats Ganon
>Adult Timeline-Zelda sends the Hero of Time into Past/Child Timeline creation
>Downfall Timeline-Hero of Time is Defeated
>Adult Timeline-Queue Wind Waker, Phantom Hourglass, and Spirit Tracks
>Downfall Timeline-Ganon is sealed
>Downfall Timeline-Queue A Link to the Past, Oracle of Ages, Oracle of Seasons, Link's Awakening, A Link Between Worlds, Triforce Heroes (maybe), Legend of Zelda, Adventure of Link

BotW can only logically take place within 4 spots, knowing what we know.

Between OoT/ALttP sometime during or before Ganon is sealed.

Between MM and TP.

After AoL, FSA, and ST with the timelines converging back into one.

A separate 4th timeline that stems from whatever.
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>>149706137
Nabooru wins.
OoT waifus seem to be an unstoppable force.
We will find out in the next match who Nabooru's going to face.

>Tenth match is Nayru VS Hilda
http://poal.me/jybv0b

Usual disclaimer:
>I am just a normal guy making a poll on an anonymous imageboard. You can imagine I can't decide if a poll is rigged or if someone is cheating by posting the poll link in other threads/sites. I can't check such crazy variables. My borderline legal suggestion is: support your favourite girl and do it with all your strenght. Don't expect your adversaries to be 100% fair. That's it. And yes, we have already seen some cheats by this point.

Now, vote my friends, the poll closes 24 hours from NOW.
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>>149766618

Why no Impa on that list
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>>149766886
Nobody asked for for her. All those people are people that were posted when he asked for the initial people, and it was basically whoever had the most votes got in a limited number of spots.
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>>149766886
Because nobody named her when we were looking for girls to add to the list.
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I little gift for the midnafags

https://cs.sankakucomplex.com/data/9c/47/9c47b34f550e4abfe8f2c35a0225c711.gif?4518017
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>>149767203
I will always love his work.
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There are many uncertainties in the Great Zelda Waifu Wars, but one thing is certain.
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>>149767291
Zelda herself is surely sick of it.
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>>149752035
I colored this poorly and added something to it, to depress you all, it's still not perfect by any means, but whatever, I like it.
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>>149767419
Sadness all around.
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>>149767419

I don't understand how him being forgotten is anyone's fault but his own. He want after Navi and probably didn't find her but there was jack all stopping him from going back to Hyrule and making a name for himself as a soldier if nothing else

The way his Shade looks he clearly did stuff but him not being remembered for it can only come down to him actively fighting against receiving recognition for his deeds
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>>149768098
Not him, but he does come back to Hyrule. I mean unless Zelda went to Termina. I imagine he did come back to Hyrule at some point, his armor is pretty similar to the Magic Armor in a lot of ways.

I think it's more he's remembering the past fondly, at least that's what I got from that anon's drawing.
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I thought the shade only regretted not being able to teach his sword skills to someone
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>>149768312

Isn't he all weepy in Twilight Princess about not having his deeds recognised due to timetravel mallarkey
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>>149768424
Nah, he's just upset he never had anyone worthy enough to pass his sword skills to. Historia goes into a bit as well, but it never straight up says he has any regret for not being remembered, at least to my immediate memory, just that he had nobody worthy enough or good enough to use those skills.

Someone can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though.
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>>149768514

Should have done more boning instead of honing (his skills)
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>>149768623
Gotta save the day in case Ganondorf came back anon. I mean he was already a good one in OoT, maybe it's just been retconned that he always had those skills even in OoT.

I mean the tunic was retconned, it's got chainmail and it's a darker green in TP than it was in OoT.
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So what was the answer to that riddle?

None? Was just to mess with us?
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>>149769058
Don't worry, we'll get a mysterious third riddle that'll answer the second riddle, that answers the first riddle.
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>>149769118
We should be so lucky
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>>149769058
You all got rused, kekkity kek
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>>149769146
>>149769179
It's alright, I'll make my own riddles, with Bombchus and Deku Scrubs.
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>>149768731
>I mean the tunic was retconned, it's got chainmail and it's a darker green in TP than it was in OoT.
Is ALttP's Link the first to have a chainmail?
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>>149752901
You see, that would be a problem.

It's supposed to be the next home console, not the next fucking DS
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>>149769417
Well he doesn't actually have any chainmail in any of the art. I don't know if you'd consider the red/blue mail chainmail though, since it changes the cloth colors.

I mean if you do, then yeah, he's the first. If not, then TP Link is the first.
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>>149769470
>It's supposed to be the next home console
No, it's not. Nintendo never said that, EVER. Supposed? Suppesed by who? The NX being a home console has always been a deluded fantasy of most fans. No wait, "fans:. People that pretend to like Nintendo but it's too stupid to buy a Wii U. Hence they hoped the NX to be a home console with Backwards Compatibility, so they wouldn't be forced to buy a Wii U.
Well, too fucking bad. The NX will be a handheld. And no, it won't be a DS successor, as it will have no backwards compatibility whatsoever and only one screen.
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>>149769642
Man are you fucking stupid. One of the most important things, that Nintendo has said over and over, is that they are trying to bring together both game libraries to their next console, portable and home games, in order to create a more appealing game library for all gamers.
They've also repeatedly say that this is their next home console.

Yeah I didn't buy a Wii U, and no I won't buy the NX if it's some gimmicky shit again, deal with it.
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>>149769931
>They've also repeatedly say that this is their next home console.
No, they NEVER said it.
And before you go the smartass route and post the Reggie quote, he never mentions the NX in that quote and fucking never says these words: "NX is a home console". Never.

And the handheld NX can be plugged on the TV and that's exactly what they meant with bringing the libraries together.
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>>149769642
Being a fan of Nintendo doesn't mean I have to like everything they do, like how I can be a fan of Queen and not like every song they made.
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>>149770242
Well, too bad. That's ok as long as those people doesn't beg for ports of Wii U games. If you want to play them so much, buy a Wii U. Or build an expensive rig to emulate those games.
No BC makes me very happy.
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>>149770348

I'm alright with no BC if it means they actively work to have a good game library and don't use it as an excuse for lots of virtual console releases and remasters
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What's the best Twilight Princess texture pack? I want something that's reasonably faithful to the original art style.
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>>149771835
Go further down the rabbit hole, make it SS.
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>>149719315
>Beat the Hyrulian princess for the third piece
>Its Golden Power is in your hands...Now, touch it with a wish in your heart.
>New Mirror!
done.
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BotW Link. This seems to be set up to be the Hero of Pathos. The disembodied Zelda voice has given him an amnesia subplot. This will be a Link that had a life and a community, which he has now lost. His life will come back to us in flashbacks, probably a piece at a time. His reason for hibernating will come back a piece at a time. A guess for his slumber would be an injury, but 100 years seems excessive if that is the case. It might be possible that the 100 year span was unintentional. Could be an old Link being brought out of retirement, except that could remove much of the drama from the whole amnesia plot. Whatever he was doing before he went to sleep, Zelda knows he was the chosen hero.

Calamity Ganon. Whatever he is doing, he has probably been doing it for the 100 years that Link has been sleeping. That's a very long time to run cloudy laps around the castle. He appears in no shape to deliver villainous monologues, so it seems likely that there is a secondary villain working as his disciple. If that secondary villain has been in charge for 100 years, they have probably redecorated and generally enjoyed their leadership status so far. On the other hand, if there is a secondary villain, then why are the guardians not more dominant? 100 years seems to be plenty of time to do whatever they wanted to do to the world, so why is the land still lush? Another option is that there is no secondary villain and while Link was asleep, there was a partial win against Ganon, so all his evil monologues will be delivered via Link's flashbacks.

I somewhat personally hope the Gerudo are involved in the game, both a friendly tribe living in the world and a corrupted group working for Ganon. The Bokoblins roaming the lands seems to prevent any large number of Gerudo from working for Ganon however.
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>>149771835
I kinda hope someone will simply import the TPHD game textures into dolphin's TP configuration.
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>>149772750
Why don't you just emulate TPHD then.
They also made some things less tedious.
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>>149772930
I don't need to, I have the game on WiiU. I would simply like to see the most accurate thing done for those who do need it.
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>>149751109
everything is a fanfic until it's official
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>>149772662
>I somewhat personally hope the Gerudo are involved in the game, both a friendly tribe living in the world and a corrupted group working for Ganon. The Bokoblins roaming the lands seems to prevent any large number of Gerudo from working for Ganon however.
If the game takes place after OoT, you can kiss your Gerudo goodbye.
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>>149774013
You can't really have Ganon if it isn't after OOT.
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>>149774013

Not if it's in the downfall timeline as Ganondorf would've have reined so long that they have become too powerful/heavily fortified to genocide.
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>>149774013
The TP Gerudo genocide is still an unconfirmed theory. TP said the thieves were killed. Even in the other lines, the thieves had been killed by Ganondorf himself, but the tribe lived on.

>>149774151
Too bad that it is the absolute least likely placement for the game.
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>>149774283

To me it seems the most likely but who can say till we've played the game and possibly gotten word of god as well
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>>149706097
>How Horrifying
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BotW Link is a new Link
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>>149774594
Source
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>>149774495
If it were in the downfall line, it could only fit at the tail end. Nintendo doesn't seem likely to put anything console on that line anymore. The handhelds contribute to chaos, but the consols mainly reference other console releases.
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>You will never see Lana try to merge back into Cia by clumsily climbing into Cia's copious cleavage window.
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>>149775887
Cia's cleavage window leads to another world
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>>149776864
A wonderful world.
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>>149777115
it's a damn shame. if Link motorboated Cia's timetraveling titties he'd get to look into other worlds.
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>>149766618
Suspiciously draw
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>>149777269
>Link could have ended the conflict at any time if he would simply ask Cia on a date.
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>>149777787
Link was too dense to realize that Cia wanted him.
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Just once, I want to see Cia and Hena trade costumes.
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>>149766618
Why does it keep coming out as a draw when I'm voting?
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>>149775887
Says you.

In all honesty, though, since it's all but proven by Legends's story that Cia can exist separately from Lana without being completely batshit, there is probably merit in letting them stay their own people as they are implied to by the ending, if only so they can keep each other sane (and sexually satisfied, probably).
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>>149781593
>(and sexually satisfied, probably).
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SECWlFInyFM
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>>149784273

Removing all Gamepad functionality was a bit much but the way they utilised it there was excessive and would've taken some serious getting used to
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>>149774594
He should be.

Him being a previous Link would feel forced as fuck.
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>>149781593
Is it wrong that I suddenly want to see Lana try to suckle from Cia?
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>>149786298
I don't think so
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Idea for a new Zelda game:

>play as Link
>game starts with confrontation against Ganon/Ganondorf
>fight fight fight!
>VICTORY!
>suddenly new villain appears
>takes the opportunity of Ganon being weakened as does some magic shit, pulling the Triforce of Power out and into them
>turns sight on Link
>Master Sword keeps the fucker at bay
>new guy leaves to go find Zelda so that he can use Power and Wisdom to break the magic of the Master Sword protecting Link's Triforce of Courage
>Ganondorf awakens, severely pissed
>Now Link and Ganondorf must travel together to stop the new dude from getting Zelda and reclaim Ganondorf's power
>A REAL FUCKING ZELDA GAME WHERE YOU CAN PLAY AS GANONDORF
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>>149786623
>>Ganondorf awakens, severely pissed
>>Now Link and Ganondorf must travel together to stop the new dude from getting Zelda and reclaim Ganondorf's power
Yeah I like writing fanfics as well!
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>>149786787
I don't, I just have this vague idea for a game that would make for a fun addition to the series.
Even Mario has worked with Bowser, it just seems like a step in a fun direction. Do you not like the idea of Ganondorf being playable for a single game?
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>>149786623

In all likelihood Ganondorf would be arrested and an execution scheduled whilst Link goes after the new bad with the help of information gotten from interrogating Dorf
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>>149787049
Does this include Dark arrows that control gravity, a sword that can wear masks and a youtube channel going off in a weird direction?
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>>149786623
I'd rather have Zelda be the villain at some point. She does some shit like try to cleanse Hyrule a la Ashera, and a brave soldier teams up with a distrustworthy Gerudo man to stop Zelda's order.
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>>149789658
Old, sorry.
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>>149790272
>muh eurogamer rumor
Fuck off
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>>149790272
>eurogamer
kys my man
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>>149789658
>>149790272
Who cares, just wait until they formally announce its release you autists.
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>>149791161
>Who cares
I do
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>>149790475
>>149791064
I know americans aren't able to read more than two written lines but at least try.
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>>149791270
Yes, I would also like to play Xenogears 3D with underpowered hardware on my 1080p screen. It'll look great!

Eurogamer rumor is retarded and you're clearly just trying to bring in /v/ over here claiming every rumor to be the truth
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>>149790272
>>149789658
If it turned out to be a handheld device that replaced my WiiU's controller, that would be fine with me. Just let me use it to upgrade my WiiU, and play games from both libraries.
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>>149791556
>upgrade my WiiU
How would it be an upgrade?

Also that would mean people would have to shell out plenty of money for pretty outdated hardware, that isn't going to be the case
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>>149789596
One day
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What if we don't get tennis in botw
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>>149791915
>handheld device that replaced my WiiU's controller
>play games from both libraries
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>>149783236
Wind Waker, hands down, had the best theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPIQzQT1JjU
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>>149793229
WE RIOT
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>>149793481
>he says as he posts a alttp theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu0PgqxghEY
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>>149793686
What I really meant to say was the best version.
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So what are the chances that Hyrule wasn't flooded, but instead sunken?

I mean there is an entire continent above water still in Spirit Tracks, which could possibly be Holodrum or Labrynna by this point in time in the Adult Timeline (or a part of it), or perhaps even an existing continent/country that had no name prior.

There is existing culture there prior to the Hero of Winds/Tetra landing there as well.
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Post Link and Zelda kissing please
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>>149794016
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>>149794016
Delete this
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>>149794016
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>>149794016

I've got an image of Zelda rimming Link but I won't post it, of course
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>>149794275
DELETE THIS
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>>149794352
you tease you
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>>149791489
So, the rumors about a home console are holy and true. But rumots you don't like are fake.

Ok bud. Your butthurt will reach astronomical levels at the NX reveal. But don't blame Nintendo once it turns out ti be a handheld. Blame yourself and your fucked up expectations.
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>>149794531
But, the console stuff aren't rumors but stright quotes from Nintendo?

I mean, believe whatever you want. Worst case scenario, I just wait until CEMU runs Zelda and that's it.
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>>149794387
>>149794197
>>149794165
Post Link and Cia kissing please
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>>149794893
>Cia
>scoring
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>>149794275
more please
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>>149794893
I'll post something even more lewd.
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>>149794165
That expression is perfect
Is that from something or a redraw of a panel?
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>>149795021
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>Link will never go to a Sheikah village and meet a little girl named Cia that wants to grow up to be the guardian of time.
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>>149795121
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>>149795121
Why the fuck is TP Link with Saria?
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>>149795650
>There will never be an Elder Scrolls-esque LoZ where you can completely fuck the timeline
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>>149796052
That's lewd though.
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>>149796026
It's clearly meant to be OoT Link. I wouldn't put it past Nintendo that if OoT was remade full and not just some texture packs basically, that they'd probably update his look too.
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>>149793987
Sunken seem more plausible. You only have to move a relatively small area of land, instead of the entire planet.
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>>149796052
If you 100% Majora's Mask you basically cause a Dragonbreak, although that isn't really important.
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>yfw this plays as you fight Calamity Ganon
>yfw it was all a dream and it cuts the world flooding as you lay outside the Shrine of Resurrection injured

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wlB_AfvwCg
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>>149796483
>temp meter freezes too
Neat
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>>149766618
>Hilda winning
And rightfully so.
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>>149796659
I actually wouldn't mind a scenario, where as you progress through the game the world gradually gets flooded and it ends similarly to WW with it flooding.

Maybe Daphnes just asked for the world to be flooded because the hero was in stasis and it can't be stopped now. I don't personally think it's in the adult timeline, but that could work I suppose, assuming the Old Man isn't Daphnes.
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>>149796837
It's the little things.
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>>149793481
Everything about Mother and Child Island was fantastic.
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>>149793229
HERESY
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So how would Miiverse be implemented in BOTW? Receive messages from your Sheikah Slate?
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>>149797826
Kylo Solo kills his father Han Ren
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>>149797898
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>>149797826
Aonuma expressed his hate for the Wii U gamepad at E3. I really doubt we will get some original miiverse integration.
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>>149798267
>expressed his hate
He just said it took away from player immersion

Which basically is him telling Miyamoto that his whole console gimmick was stupid
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>>149737907
i always assumed that if HW was cannon it would be after twilight princess since up until the 3DS port all of the reps were from the child era
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>>149798425
I think Aonuma is just not creative enough. Both Zombi U and Affordable Space Adventures are very immersive games thanks to the gamepad.
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>>149798738

He was too creative based on the Game Awards footage here >>149784273. Seems something reined him in. Probably playtesting
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>>149798738
Also, Splatoon wouldn't have happened without the gamepad.
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More bishounen Link when?
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>>149800438
>bishounen
I'd rather get a shounen or seinen Link.
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>Handheld BotW
YES YES YES
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>>149801384
>Handheld BotW
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>>149801384

Now I see just how weak the Wii U was and how the NX will be an upgrade even if weaker than current gen I am less worried. That being I'm still buying BoTW on the Wii U until the NX has a decent library
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>>149801504
Well, I like playing games when I'm not home.
At least there's the Wii U version.
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>>149800438
That Impa though…
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>>149801384
We have a speed limit here.
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>weaker than ps3
>weaker than ps3
>weaker than ps3
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>>149802093
So is the PS2 and SNES and they're the greatest consoles of all time.

Checkmate shitposter.

Happy Mask Salesman: 1
Crash Bandicoot: 0
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>>149801839
No
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>>149802093
Actually, the rumor says it is powerful like a Wii U-Bone halfway through.
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Hello?
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Hey guys, there's a rumor going around that the NX is going to support 4K/60fps and only cost about $199.99. The limited edition Zelda bundle will be $249.99 and will include digital copies of the remastered CD-i games.
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>>149803901
Yer tears are delicious.
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>>149803901
Pshaw, rumors. We all know the bundle will be $649, and the console $599. That's the way things go, $100 up every gen.
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>>149804659
Nah nigga, Nintendo will keep the systems affordable. So around the $250-$300 area.
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>>149802790
That's stupid, why do they not just make it as powerful as a gaming pc and be ahead of the competition for once instead of being behind it?
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>>149805692
Power means more expensive productions. And power also doesn't automatically translate in sales. See the N64, Xbox and PS3.
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Lana had a hard life.
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>>149806842
literally who?
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HEY GUYS IM ON WIIU
WOW THIS BROWSER SURE IS SHIT
HOPE NX IMPROVES IT
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>>149807326

I couldn't even use the PS4 one but you're right it could do with a bit more fine tuning
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>>149806842
I have a hard on
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>>149808926
im hard
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>>149795637
more please
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>>149809436
Please refrain from gayposting until Euro hours start.
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>>149809561
You mad, fuccboi?
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>>149809561
In /lozg/, all hours are gayhours
>>149809827
POST MORE TWINK LINK
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>>149809904
Why is 4chan so fucking gay the last couple of years?
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>>149809904
How about some thicc?
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>>149809827
That is clearly a female.
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>>149810032
"Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company."
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>>149810601
But things are cyclical right, we'll be able to have threads without gayposting someday right?
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>>149810032
What if, and this is a big if, but what if some of these gayposters are actually girls?
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>>149811043
>girls
>internet
Pick one
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Goodnight.
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>>149812890
>Joke about QPUs
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>>149812890
Why does futuristic technology exist in this?
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>>149813350
magic
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>>149813350
Just let it happen m8
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I command the thread to rise by using Sheikah technology.
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>>149706137
>No Maple
>shit-tier Irene instead

Poll 100% invalid.
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>>149818283
She lost nigga
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>>149794016
there's a video about a dude hitting a rock a bokoblin throws you when he doesn't have weapons, tennis practically confirmed
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>>149818835
meant for >>149793229
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>>149818835
More like baseball

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xETGvVi7n4o
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>>149818283
Would you, taste her sticky syrup?
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Who's the most lewd character in all of Zelda? The most nude ones are the Zoras and Midna, I'm sure.
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>>149822468
Saria is. She just wanted to be with Link and have cute fun times ahead, playing Ocarina, holding hands, hugging.

Fucking lewd as shit.
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>>149822468
Ruto is a devout nudist, but I don't think it has any taboo in Zora culture.
Cia is easily putting the most effort into being sexy.
Twinrova would probably fuck anyone that showed even the smallest bit of interest.
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>>149807326
>playing xenoshit
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>>149822468
>Who's the most lewd character in all of Zelda?
>Midna literally rode you every moment you were in wolf form
>Those "OH" shouts when you jerked her by surprise
There is only one answer
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>>149825608
Beth?
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>>149824302
Please don't tell me this is babt.
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>>149824302
>What is Xenogears
>What is Xenosaga

As much as I despise the shitty voice acting in Xenoblade, it's a good series to fit with the Xeno games.

But this isn't the thread for that, so stop shitposting.
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>>149826849
>shitty voice acting in Xenoblade
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>>149827363
I can't stand it man, not all of it is bad, but people like Shulk just grate my ears terribly. Which is weird because I know they're legit British, but it sounds like some random person from the states attempting a very poor British accent and it hurts my ears every time.

The gameplay, sound design, world, quests, etc. All of that is good, which is what matters, so I don't mind.

Chronicles does have much better voice acting though, but still parts of it grate me for whatever reason. But as I said, this isn't really the thread for this anyways.
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slow down
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>>149812890
>please watch for falling rocks
a callback to lttp, muh dick
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>timeline arguments
and this is why the "timeline" was a mistake. none of it makes sense, none of the assertions it makes are logical, and all it does is make people fight about this shit even more.

>neverminding that it requires so much retcon of the games to actually work that it's so painfully a fanfic as to warrant medication
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>>149835692
>none of it makes sense, none of the assertions it makes are logical
Anon, go read HH. It all makes sense unless you're stupid.

Disregarding FS games for the most part
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>>149835846
99% of people mad at HH, are just upset that their personal timeline is wrong.
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>>149836298
Actually, we're mad that the HH timeline is wrong.
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>>149836508
100% canon
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>>149836508
>we're mad that the HH timeline is wrong.
Kek there is literally nothing wrong with it.
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>>149836508
C A N O N B E C A U S E N I N T E N D O S A Y S S O
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>>149836874
FS and FSA being on any timeline is somewhat weird, but otherwise it is as solid as humanly possible.
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>>149837450
Well yeah I stated that in my previous post
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>>149837125
>>149739279
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Goddamn this game is kicking my ass.
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>>149842425
It does that. Where are you right now in the game?

Also rip using a map
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>>149835846
Not him and I love HH, but there are some things wrong with the timeline, not where they are placed entirely, just that they don't match up with certain things we know, but I don't really wanna argue about it right now.
>>149837450
FSA is relatively fine, FS being on there is whats weird. It's like a 45 min. spin-off game, yet HW gets thrown to it's speshul snowflaek timeline and likely Triforce Heroes too? Just silly.
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>>149842826
The problem with HW is that it's a time traveling mess made by a third party using the Zelda license.
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>>149842826
>likely Triforce Heroes too
I thought I read an interview somewhere where Tri Force Heroes Link was LBW Link And also that the canon is that YOU are the one true link and your two friends are just posers, even though this is simultaneously true for all of you.

I can't remember the exact source though.
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>>149842614
Just finished Level 4 after taking a days' break from the game.
I only died 6 times in that dungeon.
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>You will never get a 20 megapixel pictograph box with which to email yourself high res renders of Hurule and its residents.
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>>149842998
And so is Oracle of Ages, are we going to not put that in the timeline as well? HW can actually fit just fine and it could actually clear a few things up due to it's worm holes and ripping people from other games.
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>>149843171
It is ALBW Link. But Tetra's Trackers is also Tetra, but it's not on the timeline either.
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>>149843405
Not released in enough countries, just like Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland.
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What made Skyward Sword's Zelda so perfect?
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>>149843303
I haven't played HW so I wouldn't know.

I guess it's mostly a problem of it being third party
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>>149843984
Her willingness to help a lazy fuck like Link get shit done. Her playful movements, but also snappy attitude I gueess.

I don't actually know if snappy is the right term, but I hope you know what I mean
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>>149844536
Be nice to poor Link. He's got blurry vision and asthma.
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>>149843984
I actually really didn't like her last month.
"Uhhh, Zelda, I think there's something wrong with my bird"
"Stop being a fucking pussy and jump!"
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>>149845057
She apologized later, and she knows Link doesn't practice.


I'm glad that SS Zelda was so proactive actually
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If they put a lost woods section in botw how would it be done?

Will the try and make it simular to oot and if you take a wrong turn you start at the beginning or like tp where it didn't reset you, but if you haven't gone though it before it becomes confusing.
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>>149845508
Man TP's lost woods were confusing as fuck.
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>>149845508
Maybe wander into a deep fog bank, and end up in the maze.
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>>149845630
Then probably use a lantern or other device to navigate the fog through the woods, taking a wrong step sends you off a mountain the area most likely is.
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>>149845508
infinite
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>>149845508
Having to chop down trees which then start intersecting and screwing up your path.

Also I just realized there are more paradoxes and issues in Downfall than any other timeline or pre-split.
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>>149849691
FUCK FI
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So considering where FSA takes place and there being no logical reason for a Dark World to even exist, could it be safe to say that the Dark Mirror from an Ancient Tribe and the Dark World itself are actually the Twilight Mirror (restored) and the Twilight Realm?
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>>149849691
Fi is cute & for sexual, but I do not like z-raid's portrayal of her character.
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>>149849958
Technically the place still exists, it just has no reason to be dark. But no, there is no reasonableness to any assumption that ties it to the Twighlight Realm. The Dark World is a corrupted Sacred Realm.
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>>149850058
I'm not particularly fond of it mind you, but I'll take whatever nice looking fanart from Fi I find
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>>149850220
That's what I'm getting at it though, the Sacred Realm has no reason to be the Dark World, so why does it exist in FSA? Ganon doesn't have the Full Triforce in that Timeline either, unless something happens between TP and FSA we don't know about, which I highly doubt right now.

And whats up with the Dark Mirror anyways, there are only so many Ancient Tribes that deal with Shadow Magic. Majora's, Twili/Interlopers, and Sheikah and realistically they're all the same thing since they all have eye symbols and stuff.
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The Triforce was split in by the goddeses before Ganondorf was banished by the Sages in TP, by granting him the Triforce of Power.

MY GUESS is that due to the split, the sacred realm falls to darkness?

Honestly no idea.
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>>149850428
I'm not gogin to defend any timeline placement for FSA, because I don't belive it belongs on any timeline. It's just a mishmash of fun elements that they stole from all the other games. The Dark World was a rip of LttP, because they simply wanted that game mechanic for the fun of it. Vatti being there at all even though he was killed in the game that introduced him. It's just hobo stew.
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>>149850562
Which I never understood either.

If The Triforce of Courage shattered because the Hero of Time was thrown back in time into a different timeline, then how does TP Link have the Mark of the Triforce in the first place and is able to be protected by Zant/Ganon Magic in the Twilight Realm if the Triforce of Courage never passed on?

Then you have the same problem with ALBW, how does he have the Mark of the Triforce, when it's never split in the Downfall Timeline prior to that? And also why is Ganon's body still where it is, did Yuga go all the way to the Room of Rites to retrieve it? Which then sets up another problem is who gets his body from Lorule in order to revive it for LoZ, and the Triforce is split there too. LoZ/AoL make more sense being New Hyrule considering the layout honestly.

Aonuma and the team should probably think a little more before just making the story honestly, like it takes what all of 20-30 minutes to figure a workaround and all of 5 to figure out there is a problem?
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>>149850860
>If The Triforce of Courage shattered because the Hero of Time was thrown back in time into a different timeline, then how does TP Link have the Mark of the Triforce in the first place and is able to be protected by Zant/Ganon Magic in the Twilight Realm if the Triforce of Courage never passed on?
The Triforce shows up in the child timeline up until the split I mentioned in my previous post. So we can assume that TP Link has the mark because he's the chosen one this time.
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>>149850661
Well I think he was sealed in both MC and FS inside the Four Sword wasn't he? It's been awhile since I've played either.

As for FSA, it's problem is that it was originally an ALttP remake and they changed things during development, which is mostly what the problem with all the games are, half of them started out as some type of remake and they didn't bother fixing those problems during development that managed to carry through.

That and their bright idea to completely fuck the Hyrule Map in FSA by including the Dark World as a natural part of Hyrule with the Temple of Darkness and Palace of Ice and shit, so it throws everything off, even though the Palace of Ice was clearly supposed to be Talus Cave from FS, but they didn't change the fact that there was a Dark World carry over from when it was an ALttP remake, so it fucked everything, considering Talus Cave has the same shape, structure, and relative placement to where the Lanayru Mines should logically be.
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>>149850562
No. For the Sacred Realm to go dark, Ganondorf has to enter and be first to tough the triforce. Those mechanics were established in LttP.
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>>149850860
Having the mark of the Triforce means that particularly piece recognizes you.
SS Link gets marked by all of the Triforce but he still has to go retrieve it from skyloft.

>>149851132
Let's say interlopers did it, then. Because yes.
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>>149851005
Which is odd as hell. Why do the Goddesses even decided to split the Triforce? Like I get destiny repeating and all that, but they were content in Downfall to not do that and just let Ganondorf have the full Triforce and the Sacred Realm/Dark World.

My only logical assumption is that The Triforce Splits at that specific moment in time solely because that event is happening concurrently with say ALttP or WW where it's also split and for something omniscient as the Triforce, it might need to be consistent? Fuck man I don't know. They should really think things through a little more.
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>>149851038
He was killed in MC. Dead. Link doesn't even know how to seal someone.
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>>149851198
Once the interlopers were defeated, the Sacred Realm was cured of darkness. The same way Link fixed the Sacred Realm in LttP.
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>>149851198
>SS Link gets marked by all of the Triforce but he still has to go retrieve it from skyloft.

Fair enough, but it's still odd to have a distinction that there is a difference between the Mark of the Triforce and actually having the Triforce itself. Which it's still a problem in ALBW and TP as we know for sure they all have it in TP and ALBW it's pretty heavily implied considering Hilda has the Triforce of Wisdom and Yuga deals with the Triforce of Power.
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>>149851235
Thanks for the correction, I honestly couldn't remember. Guess it's just retcons.
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>>149851345
Maybe this is how all Link's inventory works. Somewhere on his person is a box that is designed to hold his posessions.
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Some people might hate this, I don't know, I know it's been a constant issue within Zelda, but lets try it.

Given what we know about the games logically, Triforce, Dark World, etc. We can include HW if you want.

What would a logical three-way timeline actually be for you guys?
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>>149850860
I can explained why the triforce was left behind in adult timeline and was still able to continue in child era, as for downfall I'll have to go though all the games again to figure that one out, so...

When Link returned back to the child era from the adult era, the triforce he had with him during that time stayed behind and scattered for whatever reason.

Zelda brought Link back to an earlier point in time before Ganondorf was able to attack the castle and break into the sacred realm, knowing this we can assume that since Link traveled through time and most likely through the sacred realm where the triforce was being safeguarded either he came into contact with it in some way that it decided to split in the child era or the very fact that that he crossed through the realm caused the triforce to seek him and the others out as well. Which is why in TP it's still seeking those worthy of holding part of it's force.
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This is what I would have.

>SS
>MC
>OoT (However it creates 4 splits, not 3)
By this I mean the Hero of Time pulls the Master Sword, yet does not time travel for the Shadow Temple or Spirit Temple, this causes him to fail, and creates Downfall.

The Hero of Time only time travels to acquire the Lens of Truth, but not for the Spirit Temple, this creates a different timeline (we'll get into that in a second, we'll call it Timeline 2 for now though)

The Hero of Time time travels and deals with the Shadow/Spirit Temples, and succeeds (Adult), with Zelda sending him back into the past (Child).

>Downfall would consist of
ALttP
OoA/S (This can explain why Twinrova is still alive, yet no mention or resurrection is mentioned)
LA
ALBW

>Timeline 2 (We'll call the Revival Timeline)
FS
FSA
Ganon acquires the Full Triforce as this Hero of Time also fails not having done the Spirit Temple and revives Vaati at some point, but he somehow gets sealed in the FS in between OoT/FS in this case.

>Adult
WW
PH
ST
LoZ (Ganon is revived and seeks to attack New Hyrule, The Triforce is still split)
AoL (Zelda 1 can be a reference to ST Zelda as she was the first newborn Zelda in New Hyrule)

>Child
MM
TP

I think that ultimately makes sense.
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>>149851605
The HH split is actually very good, except that FSA and FS don't really belong in a timeline at all.

I would cram TRR just before MM, less than a year before.

HW doesn't have a problem fitting in any line, because all the characters are yanked from different time periods, so anything can be justified as far as events. What it has a problem with is that Ordon Village in HW has Hylean citizens, but Ordon Village canonically has non-Hylean citizens. The discrepancy kinda forces it in some splinter universe.
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>>149851963
Interesting, I like it.
>>149851964
Well Ordona's relation to the Temple of Time could have had it as part of Hyrule at one point. You could probably shove HW in between MM or TP, at least I suppose. You could probably shove it as a timeline convergence too where things are just wonky as hell.
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Can someone tell me why Ganondorf shows up in WW instead of Ganon?
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>>149852156
HW literally has a version of Ilia with pointy Hylean ears. They don't have eternal youth or anything, so it's a universe parallel to TP.

>>149852230
Ganon is the monster form from when Ganondorf has been beaten brutal by Link. WW Ganondorf only lost because he let go of the triforce. No triforce means that he died instead of becoming Ganon.
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>>149852230
Differences in how he acts I imagine. Downfall he has the Full Triforce and has gone power hungry. Child he's pissed about being executed for never having actually attacking Hyrule. Adult he's had a lot of time to reflect with his own desire being underwater, his people dead, etc. He's older and focuses more on theatrics and puppets.
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>>149852349
>HW literally has a version of Ilia with pointy Hylean ears. They don't have eternal youth or anything, so it's a universe parallel to TP.

I think that's just a mistake honestly. Assuming it's not, maybe they're still Hylians in Downfall or something and Ordon never became it's own Province. I mean it is rather close to the Temple of Time. I mean in Downfall that'd make it Kakariko Village or damn close to it.
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>>149851632
I've been thinking, the reason why we have an adult and child era is because of Zelda using the power of the ocarina to send Link back to an earlier point in time rather then going back to the point when he removed the master sword, she sent him as far back to a point that they never met.

Knowing that we have to assume that something in a similar matter must've happened in the fallen timeline when Link was defeated causing that third split. Having someone die does not cause a split in time, someone with the power to cause a time split intervened in some way, maybe in order to kill Link, that is the true mystery.
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>>149852539
It's in HH. Downfall line was identical to the adult ending, except that Link died in the final battle against Ganon. Link's death gave Ganon the full triforce, and required the sages to immediately move to seal Ganon away so that he couldn't take over the world.
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>>149852539
Well we have a paradox with everything involving time-shift stones or time-gates so far in the series and I believe HH says the Ocarina and Master Sword pedestal are made out of time-shift stone.

So maybe, instead of the Song of Storms being a circular loop, it's an infinity loop, where somehow two Hero of Times are existing at the same time, and crossing between each other, allowing for the Song of Storms. ie: Hero of Time A teaches Young of Hero B and vice versa. It's still a loop, but it means the Master Sword itself can also create timelines if used the way it was in OoT, it'd also allow a reasoning for one of the Hero of Times to fail, yet no other game seems to have this fail state timeline.

I mean either the Master Sword is above time (it's not in the Temple of Time (Past) in TP despite it being there) or the Hero of Time for some reason had it at that particularly point in time.
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>>149852539
Not only that we have to take into account how time travel worked in zelda, for example, Link pulled the sword and both him and the master sword left the world for 7 years. When he was sent back the adult era was left without a Link.

So with that in mind whoever caused the 3rd split wouldn't exist in the other 2 timeline, meaning it wasn't Liink zelda, or Ganon. Who could have been missing in the other timeline that could have cause the defeat timeline to exist
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>>149852768
The sword seems to be a fixed item in the universe in regards to it's state. It's either on the pedestal or it isn't.
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>>149852967
Link didn't leave the world for 7 years. His body stayed in the world and grew older. It's what Link was told when he first traveled. He slept because he was not yet strong enough to use the Master Sword.
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>>149852979
Not quite so, true it's in a pedestal, but in the fallen timeline it's in a different location, WW it's gone under the sea until stated otherwise, child era it stayed in it's pedestal of time.
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I'm playing MM3D and I'm noticing a lot of little details I didn't before like how Zelda implies that Link and her spent a fair amount of time together after the end of OoT and how Tatl knows about the Goddess of Time, which implies that she's from Hyrule like Skull Kid. It's neat I'm going to be looking for more shit like that.
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>>149853117
Just look at at SS ending. Link leaves the sword in the ancient past soon after Demise had been sealed, unsealed and defeated, yet the sword shows up in the future until the very end of the game after Link effectively places it in the pedestal.
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>>149853067
Yes he slept for 7 years but he could return to that exact moment he pulled the sword out, then go back seven years into the future at will, meaning in those 7 years he didn't exist no matter what
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>>149852967
Adult line had no more Link, because Zelda got rid of him.
Downfall line had no Link, because Ganon killed him.

At any rate, if you think about it hard, the Downfall line existed before the other lines existed.
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>>149853117
HH actually says the Lost Woods in Downfall was once a Temple. Likely the Temple of Time, it would actually match up with where Death Mountain and the Graveyard would be located, with Castle Town becoming Kakariko Village.
>>149852979
Which is weird, the possibility of the Master Sword creating timelines still exists though.
>>149853186
Yep, remember it was always destiny that Link had to leave the forest and couldn't be with Saria until the end of their days.
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>>149853234
He existed, as a limp body.
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>>149853224
SS time travel didn't leave any errors for a split so it would make sense for the sword to stay where it was after Link left it in the past
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>MS is in the lost woods
>but also in the Temple of Time
>which is in the lost woods
>except it's right next to the castle
>which also happens to be on top of the temple of time

Trying to make sense out of this is kinda dumb, don't you think?
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>>149853224
The ending of SS is a massive paradox.

If Demise was sealed 100 years in the past in the Master Sword, then the Imprisoned should have never existed in the first place for SS Link to fight.

Then as you said, the Master Sword still being there, though you can probably assume it's just been lying there for 100 years and he just picked it back up.
>>149853240
The straight line that should have always existed is Adult. Historia says Downfall expanded from it and then later Adult would split due to Zelda. The natural events that should have happened without any timeline split would be the Adult Timeline, though this also causes WW/PH/ST to not exist, so it must happen that there is a split.
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>>149853434
Just wait until BotW gives a fully explorable map, followed by the next game with a completely different fully explorable map.
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>>149853475
>it's just been lying there for 100 years and he just picked it back up.
But Link picks a dull looking, green crappy sword from within the Goddess statue, not the sealed temple.
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>>149853318
That's true that it could be the temple of time, but alttp states that the sword was moved to the lost woods to prevent any evil from harming it, the temple could be the temple of time, heck it could even be the forest temple from oot which is all that's left of it
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>>149853434
Names change over time. It wouldn't be far-fetched to assume it's called the Lost Woods in Downfall because it's a lost part of the kingdom overtaken by woods. Just like it's not far off to call it Faron Woods, as the woods have regrown back in Child.
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>>149853475
I feel that when people say SS is a paradox haven't really played the game
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>>149853527
Magic Paradoxes then.
>>149853575
I think the Forest Temple is the Eastern Palace. They both do share similar stairs/entrance ways and the Dark World is a Forest. Dark World seems to be based on Ganondorf's memories of Hyrule. The Desert of Mystery is a Lake for instance, or at least best he can remember.

Eastern Palace being the Forest Temple would make sense with Zora's Waterfall where it is.

Who knows, maybe BotW will actually explain how the sword ends up moved, not that many people can just move it, the Goddesses don't seem to give a shit where it's at, and I don't realistically see the Pedestal just being picked up and hauled across Hyrule.
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>>149853434
>>MS is in the lost woods
ALTTP
>>but also in the Temple of Time
OoT
>>which is in the lost woods
TP
>>except it's right next to the castle
OoT
>>which also happens to be on top of the temple of time
WW

Right?
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>>149853475
LttP was made first. The Downfall line existed first.
Also, once the hero wins, there is no reason for anyone to make any more changes to how events played out. "should have always existed" is nonsense without meaning, because none of the lines exist without some amount of time travel to create them.
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>>149851964
>Ordon Village canonically has non-Hylean citizens
Yeah, we all know Ordon village never had a hylean living in it
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>>149853707
The game itself makes sense within it's context, but timetravel is always a bitch.

Just as the Seed of Life for Lanayru come from a tree that was always in the temple, because you went to the past and planted it, you really never fought the imprisoned since you killed demise first, since you went back in time, and you never had a sword with you, since the Master Sword was ALWAYS in the sealed temple. Fi was always asleep, and blah blah blah.
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>>149853707
Demise/Imprisoned is a paradox. The Imprisoned shouldn't exist in the present if Demise was sealed in the past. Just the same as Demise never would have been fought if the Imprisoned had never existed. Event B can't exist without Event A, however Event B causes Event A to not exist.

It is a paradox through and through.
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>>149853810
TP Link didn't come from Ordon, he moved to there. Everyone else there is a round-eared human. They even go so far as to comment on Link in HH.
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>>149853853
>Just as the Seed of Life for Lanayru come from a tree that was always in the temple, because you went to the past and planted it, you really never fought the imprisoned since you killed demise first, since you went back in time, and you never had a sword with you, since the Master Sword was ALWAYS in the sealed temple. Fi was always asleep, and blah blah blah.

So what you're saying is, is that SS never happened? I mean, Ghirahim is dead and the whole thing shouldn't have happened then.
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>>149853726
Zelda is the only other person who can moved the sword. When you get the fully pureed matter sword in SS it says only Link can wield it, but it was Zelda herself that have the finale upgrade to it. Also WW shown zelda to pick up the master sword.

Most likely in botw she moved it, maybe not if it lost it's power
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>>149853970
Learn English
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>>149853737
That's under the assumption though that someone other than the Hero of Time created Downfall in the first place. Downfall could be a complete and total accident.

And while true ALttP came first, that doesn't make it the natural order of things. While sure, Downfall could be the straight line and Adult and Child branched from it, Historia contradicts this, by saying Adult was natural and Downfall and Child branched from it.

Then again, Historia also even contradicts that by having Child as the straight line solely because it's from the Hero of Time's point of view, which doesn't make any sense, since the Child Timeline without a doubt wouldn't exist without Adult, meaning it can't be the natural order of things.

The point is, Adult or Downfall is the natural order of time without any splits, one of those two. Logically it makes sense that a Hero succeeds and doesn't fail, so that would make it Adult and Historia does back this up.
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>>149853865
You kinda have to assume that time has a certain level of elasticity. Unless someone does something really drastic, things bounce back to where they were intended to go. Of course by "drastic", I mean Nintendo making a new game to exploit a varied ending.
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>>149853959
He's not wrong, as you aren't wrong.

There isn't a single instance in Zelda where time-travel does not create a paradox of some type. Not a single instance, because Miyamoto and Aonuma don't think about it at all and just throw shit together. Not a single game.
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>>149854067
I'm typing from a cellphone, sometimes I can't see what I type.
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>>149854078
The Hero of Time was still the hero in the Downfall line. Page 92 of HH describes the ending of OOT, with the difference of Link being killed in the final battle.
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>>149854107
If things were always preset on that level they likely never should have changed in the first place, or have created a timeline/universe from it detailing those events.

For all we know, SS should have created at timeline. Meaning once Demise is sealed, the timeline splits into all the games we know, and there is a timeline out there where SS Link never traveled to the past so seal Demise, so that the Imprisoned still exists.
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>>149853959
>>149854245
I kinda want to see how SS would have played from the POV of the world itself and not from Link/the player/the observer,.
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>>149854078
>natural order of things
This is meaningless gibberish. You are trying to suggest that a series of events is someone different than a different series of events, because of how it was fit on a page of paper when described. They aren't gogin to draw them on top of each other just to satisfy an arbitrary measure that you made up.
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>>149854294
I'm aware. Time is a straight line, hence timeline. Branches are the oddities. I'm saying that either Adult or Downfall are the straight line.

If there was never a timeline split within Zelda, then we would have this.

>SS
>MC
>FS
>OoT
>WW
>PH
>ST

or

>SS
>MC
>FS
>OoT
>ALttP
>OoA/S
>LA
>ALBW
>LoZ
>AoL

The more logical assumption is the Adult Timeline because the Hero of Time defeats Ganon, not Downfall solely because it came first in release date. Either way it doesn't matter, it's not Child as the Historia shows. You can also argue that WW/PH/ST never would have existed in Adult since the Hero of Time still exists assuming that was the natural straight line with no branching splits. But you can also assume that they would and that Ganondorf escaped the Sacred Realm in a time where there was no Hero of Time because he got old and died, but the people still prayed and called for him to return.
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>>149854078
But something did cause that downfall spilt and it can't just be as simple as Link dropping dead on the finale battle. Either someone caused it because they saw Link get defeated or they went back to make sure he was defeated.
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>>149854352
You can think of it like this. Demise came back because Ghirahim meddeled in time. Link killed Demise with the same meddling. The natural order was no meddling at all, so Link really just put things back to roughly the starting position.
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>>149854463
Nobody said to draw them on top of each other, what are you talking about? One of them branches, the other does not.

If there were no timeline splits, there would still be a straight line of events that played out, either that leads to the Downfall Games or the Adult Games, whichever one it is, the other one would be a branching path (like it is in Historia). The only difference in Historia is that straight line down wouldn't be Child. It's a very simple concept.
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>>149854572
It's called the Master Sword and Timefuckery.

>Master I predict a 100% chance you will create a time disturbance by putting me back in the Pedestal.
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>>149854556
There is nothing special to be determined from the straightness of how the lines are drawn in HH. If you want to use timetravel to diferge, than consider who would change it and why they would change it. If you believe that someone saw the adult line and decided to kill Link, than that is where you have to come up with something. There is no logic in just saying "this was drawn straight on paper".
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>>149854592
The way time worked in SS was that both the past and present were moving at the same time, so an hour in the present meant that in the past that same hour occurred, this is why when Zelda was taken to the past through the gate the present wasn't fucked asap because Demise wasn't revived in that alloted time, one could argue that you could see something appear and disappear in the present while someone was doing something to that object, like the time gates for example. When impa destroyed the gate in the past it just faded away in the present.
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>>149854572
The most logical assumption is that Link died in the downfall, and someone decided to make a change to it in order to spare him. There are many characters that have access to time travel. Zelda has both immediate access, ability to commit time travel, and a motive. Cia is also a popular suspect.
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>>149854923
This is what I mean, not the defunct way the Historia shows it.

One of these two is how it should actually look. Timelines are branches of events, but without timelines there is still a straight path. Historia has it where the thing doesn't go in a straight path, which doesn't really make sense. There is a natural timeline of events had timeline splits never happened in Zelda, that is the straight line, that is either Adult or Downfall.
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>>149855115
My argument with that, beside that cia isn't canon unfortunately, is that if someone messed with time like how it was done in oot then that person would be absent from one of the other 2 timelines because of this. so let's say Zelda did it to save Link, it would mean she wouldn't exist in the downfall timeline because she left that branch of time to change it, meaning she would only exist in the child and adult era.
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>>149855432
All 3 include meddling. Even in the child line, Link has brought back knowledge and power from the future. There is no natural timeline.
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>>149855470
Zelda didn't leave the adult link when she sent Link back in time. Why would she have to leave to send something else back?
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>>149855580
Child wouldn't even exist if Adult didn't already exist. Adult has to play out for Child to exist. Just as Adult has to play out for Downfall to exist, or Downfall has to play out for Adult to exist.

There may be timefuckery and meddling or whatever, but one of those timelines is a straight shot down with the other two branching from it. One of those two events would happen regardless of the other two timelines existing.

For instance, if Downfall and Child never existed, Adult Timeline would still happen, there is no way it wouldn't happen, there just isn't a Timeline for his failure and Zelda never would have sent him back. That is a natural order, a natural timeline, a natural straight line. The same works for Downfall. Downfall can continue to exist just fine without the Hero of Time ever succeeding making Adult or Zelda sending that Hero of Time back to the past creating Child.

Child absolutely does not exist without Adult. Adult and Downfall can still exist without the other two needing to exist. That is the point, it's seriously not a hard concept to figure out at all.

It's like that movie The Time Machine or whatever, where he goes back in time to prevent his wife from being shot by the mugger in the park (at least I think that's The Time Machine). Her being shot is the natural order of things, every one of his attempts to change it is a branching timeline and not natural. There is still a straight natural line that should have naturally happened and would still happened regardless of time travel. The issue here and within Zelda is that we see things from certain points of view so people start getting confused.
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>>149855757
That's the point I'm making, someone other than zelda link or ganon fucked with time causing that 3rd split and like you stated zelda could've sent that person back to do it which means the person who left that timeline wouldn't be there anymore just how there wasn't a Link in the Adult era for a period of time.
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>>149856072
It's a lot more simple to assume Link himself created it by accident due to his time traveling. No other game does a Link time travel the way he does.
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>>149855887
Adult and downfall are identical with the exception of Link's death. Both require Link to awaken the sages. Link can't awaken the sages without many trips forwards and backwards in time. Consider what Link had to do to rescue Nabooru.

A natural line would be a line in which Link never pulled the sword, and grew up normally, without ever traveling at all. This line does not exist in HH at all.
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>>149856178
You're saying Link accidently did it by dying?
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>>149856072
All Zelda has to do is send Link some light arrows. The recieving timeline sees arrows appear as if from the gods, but this time Link has the tools he needs to subdue Ganon briefly. No person has to vanish from anywhere.
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>>149856178
All the theories being posted already are assumptions that it was caused by time travel. If you went strictly by HH's text, we would just shrug it off as a quantum fluxuation.
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>>149856313
Ahh now there's a good theory, so downfall zelda sends the light arrows to adult era zelda with a message saying that this is needed to defeat ganon, although I'm pretty sure she just crafts the arrows herself in the game.
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>>149856205
Link does not time travel when he first pulls the Master Sword out, he ages naturally, he's just sealed.

It doesn't matter if Downfall and Adult are identical outside of the end. One of them is the default and natural timeline, just the same as the women getting shot in the park is the natural thing and everything else is a branch from it and their subsequent consequences.

Imagine if our universe had two different timelines, with the one you know as the natural order of how things should have happened. Yet in our alternate timeline only one bomb was dropped on Japan, leading to different consequences afterwards. While the events leading to both of those are identical, the end result is different, same as Adult and Downfall, both of which lead to different consequences/results afterwards. In this scenario you wouldn't say they're both the natural order of things. One of them would be the natural way things have gone and the other a branch, in this scenario, two bombs dropped on Japan is the natural order of things with the alternate timeline where only one was dropped is the branch. Sure to the people living in that timeline, it's their main timeline, sure, that I'll grant you, but on the overall scale of time, ours is the real main one and theirs is the branch, ours would be Timeline 1, the straight line, with theirs being Timeline 2 branching outward.
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Timefuckery
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>>149856309
I think he's assuming he did it due to the Master Sword or Song of Storms. I mean if that's the case, it would logically create a split where two Links exist concurrently, and one just happens to fail (maybe as a failsafe to fix the timeline) and one just happens to not fail.
>>149856313
Yeah but Ganon in OoT doesn't have to be defeated with the Light Arrows, you can beat his ass with Deku Sticks or the Megaton Hammer.

It's safer to assume the Master Sword just got knocked back further than it should have and he didn't have time to go and get it before Ganon got back up, so the fight dragged out and he got exhausted.
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>>149856520
"default and natural timeline" is an imaginary title that you made up. If you want something truly default, than the Imprisoning War from Link to the Past is the way things naturally were in this evolving work of fictional games.
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>>149856692
>"default and natural timeline" is an imaginary title that you made up
It's not actually, it's a pretty commonly accepted assumption on timelines not even counting Zelda, where certain things will happen regardless of splits of timefuckery.

It's actually stupidly common.
>If you want something truly default, than the Imprisoning War from Link to the Past is the way things naturally were in this evolving work of fictional games.
As I said, Downfall could be the natural straight line, it's not entirely logical based on Historia, but it's still a possibility.

I really don't see how this is hard to grasp at all.
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>>149857009
The Glorious Beedle Empire Grows.
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>>149856828
The idea that you want to believe that one of the lines is somehow how things were always intended to go is fine for fanfics, but if you want to discuss it as a theory, there is a point of required evidence. With no evidence, there is nothing to discuss. Declaring something to be "natural" just because you like it best, is not evidence of something or anything. Theories are about discussion and proofs.
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>>149857127
A tree will continue to grow straight regardless of its branches.

And no, it's not based on fact, it's based on logic from what has been clearly established within Zelda. Child is clearly a branch. Adult or Downfall is a branch, the other is not.

It's so simple a child could understand it. Again, a tree will continue to grow straight regardless of its branches.
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>>149857079
Beedle's shop on a mile-long island shaped like a large bird? How would such a shopping center get customers?
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>>149856643
My thing is the only way for there to be 2 links at the fallen and adult era someone had to be the one to even slightly change the timeline of the other
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>>149857258
Both him and the running man work together to form air deliveries
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>>149857258
By having great and fantastic deals! Come one, come all to Beedles Airship of Destiny!
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Anyone still playing triforce heroes? It's a nice game but sucks when >tfw no friends
I've already beaten it once but lost my save. Trying to 100% it but there's no people. Trying to find people for riverside with bonus challenges.
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>>149857246
That is a phiosophy, not a proof. There is no logic. It's simple because it's bologna.
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>>149857453
Pretty sure someone got it in this general but everyone's too shy to share friend codes.
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>>149857502
I really don't know how much more simple I can have you understand how time travel and branches and such should logically and theoretically work. I mean if everything I've said hasn't gotten through to you, nothing will. Hell I doubt even Nintendo themselves would get through to you at this point.

It's not like timeline is a fictional word, it's an actual word that exists for actual things and is typically uses a linear scale, it only branches out and creates a variety of events in fiction because of the use of time travel. A natural linear scale/line would still exist regardless of branches. Seriously anon, it is not a hard concept to understand. I understood this type of stuff when I was like 8 playing Chrono Trigger.
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>>149857285
There were two theories from an old thread that summed up the options.

Cia's Love
Schrödingers Fi

"Cia's Love" is the idea that somebody saw the outcome and changed it, whether for good or bad.
"Schrödingers Fi" is the idea that the two lines could exist without any timefuckery, as if by quantum fluxuation.

If you want to interpret HH strictly, than Schrödingers Fi is why there are two lines. Of course where is the fun in that?
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>>149857836
It's not complicated at all, it's just not correct in any way.
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>>149857792
If someone feels like it, it'd be nicw to play with non-retarded people
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>>149857853
Cia's Love creates a Grandfather Paradox and still wouldn't actually solve one of the issues in which she created the Adult Timeline in this case anyways. The Hero of Time still dies, she's just made a timeline where he doesn't, she still has to witness him dying, which creates the Grandfather Paradox.

Schrödingers Fi is a Butterfly Effect. Somewhere along the lines something had to have been changed that allowed for a split to occur in the first place, since that shouldn't logically happen. In this case it would make the most sense that SS created it, Demise is Sealed and The Imprison Still Exists, they would just happen to follow identical event triggers up until OoT due to SS Link's use of time-travel and temporal paradoxical looping. Whereas OoT breaks this trend due to his own time traveling.

Schrödingers Fi would actually make the more logical sense based on how time travel in Zelda typically functions.
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>>149857962
Then I suppose the word timelines and theoretical physics, theory of relativity, and Einstein-Rosen Bridges aren't correct in any way either.

I guess it's all one big lie, that doesn't have any amount of logic at all applied to it, nor can it be applied to fictional stories that would logically have some basis on these things either. Nope, not at all, because it's fiction with magic and technology and weird creatures, oohs and ahs.

We are discussing Zelda from a logical point of view, therefore logic dictates how things should work, so no, it's not incorrect in any way. In a logical setting within Zelda, time travel would work that way, or are you telling me that all three timelines are branches and we've never actually seen what should have logically happened, because while that is a possibility, it's not a logical one as certain event triggers happened prior to any amount of time travel or timeline splits. As I've said time and time again, Adult or Downfall would happen regardless of timeline splits or not, it doesn't matter which one, one of the two would happen regardless.
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>>149858226
You only get a grandfathers paradox if you assume the mechanics of Back to the Future, in which things that exist will magically fade away if the past is changed. Link's travel in OOT doesn't quite follow these rules, but they are similar. Things tend to sync up with him in realtime, but he can't go back and open his own chests again because time doesn't let him. Zelda's timetravel on the other hand, creates a divergent timeline. The existence of a divergence, basically exempts the original timeline from any of the reprecussions caused by the act required to cause the divergence. Both versions get to keep existing. It would seem that to avoid cracking time in two, you must simply avoid traveling back to a point before you left.

A "Schrödingers Fi" wouldn't simply be moving the timefuckery back further, it is literally the need for no differences to exist.

A butterfly effect from the time of SS, would be another Cia's Love scenario if timetravel is to be blamed, whether intentional or not. Not sure it really proposes a cause though. The butterfly effect has the same physical delema as Schrödingers Fi, in that the tiny difference must be scaled up somehow so that it acctually matters. If it scales quickly, then the timelines are noticable different all the way up. If it only scales at the end, then there is the question of why.
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>>149859125
Well I was meaning more that if Cia wanted to change the events of Downfall, she would logically have to erase Downfall in order to create Adult, but that causes a paradox where Adult doesn't exist without Downfall, which creates the Grandfather Paradox, where she could never alter Downfall in the first place, but it still allows her to create Adult, in this case it's just an alternate future stemming from the same event trigger.

It works, but still presents the problem that Cia would still witness a Hero of Time dying despite saving him in an alternate timeline, but she is the Goddess of Time and would likely try to avoid Paradoxes as much as possible.

And you do have a point on the Butterfly Effect with Schrödingers Fi. I would have it under the assumption that it's because of SS Link. Whereas in this scenario we've present the Butterfly Effect would be Sealing Demise in the Past and the Imprisoned Still existing in the Present, whereas SS Link crosses between both of those instances, causing a weird loop. It's a paradox and there does need to be a reason why as you stated.

Hell, now that I think about it Cia's Alternate Future stemming from a Grandfather Paradox (or at least the attempt to not make one) would actually make the more logical sense.

I personally think they made a huge mistake putting Downfall where they did. I know OoT was originally the IW and still largely is, but I think it's a mistake at this point now that TP and WW both exist. You could probably have it stem from some other game, possibly SS due to it's paradox and have it fit, then you can introduce a new game as the IW or any of number of games in there due to the huge time gap between SS and ALttP. Hell you could assume BotW in this case would be the IW if you wanted to go that route.
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>>149859503
I would say that if Cia (or anyone) wanted to change an existing timeline, than it is the same as when Zelda sent Link back; Changing a known outcome splits a timeline. No known events can ever truely be erased, but you can get a divergent better version.

If we are gonna blame Cia, I'm not totally sure that she was avoiding paradoxes or splits by the time of HW. She was kinda obsessed with Link. It might even explain why HW Hyrule is both similar and different from TP Hyrule, if Cia was intentionally setting a divergent Link apart for her own use.

As a child of the 80's, I couldn't stand LTTP to be anywhere but directly after OOT. They have always been a cohesive story set. Somwtimes Japan rewirtes stories, they simply do. I was fine accepting that WW was basically a wet telling of LTTP. The Downfall line seems like a very tidy solution.
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>>149859503
Don't really care where the other games could have been if they did something different, I just want to know how botw fits in the defeated era If it is or isn't the same link from oot of time, but damn I got the same "this is after this" moment I had when they released the trailer for TP. When I saw midna's fused shadow I was pretty sure it was after Majora's mask.
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>>149860104
Possibility. Who knows with Zelda though, there are so many paradoxes and poorly thought out things with time travel that it just gets progressively worse the more they keep trying to do it.

And yeah retcons happen, but sometimes due to retcons you have to move things around a bit. I have no problem with ALttP being where it is, I just feel it might make a tad more sense and allow for more possibilities with future games not needing to be retconned to move it around a bit, but it doesn't really matter, Nintendo will do what Nintendo does. Also my internet is going in and out so, I apologize if this is posted later that I would have liked.
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>>149860441
Could just be some retcons honestly. Could be a game where we finally fail, so it could fit in with WW as well. A callback to the flooding battle with Ganon.

Who knows though, we'll have to see some more info and stuff on it to be 100% sure, though Aonuma did hint at something about OoT with his shirt at one of the E3 things didn't he?
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>>149860104
>>149859503
Suppose a schemeing Cia that wanted her own Link...

Sees a dead Link. Surely nobody would notice if she meddled a bit?
Gives the Master Sword a slight boost, so he survives the fight.
Damn Zelda ruins the plan by sending Link away. But what's this? A whole second fresh timelime Cia can follow Link home to. Even harder to track Cia's antics if she goes one level deeper.
This Link wanders off to Termina.Fin, Cia can work to keep him alive a bit there. Who is to notice if she lets him reverse time even a thousand times?
Finally Link went home, and... damn, that villain has a future here. He's going to spread into all timelines if she takes Link away before the villian is gone.
Alright, time is on her side, the hero will be reborn, she just needs to put him in some nice remote place where he won't befriend any Kokori or Zoras or princesses.
Damn it, he fell in love with some local human.
Time to meddle with time again... Now Humans... humans humans humans... are just Hyleans that lost their religeon so their ears went stubby after a few generations. Make sure that Ganondorf fellow isn't even born here, so nobody is in the way.
Just give a scary vision to a villagers ancestor and boom, now a Link that is in a village of devout Hyleans that send him off to the knights academy.
Now send in some expendable villians to awaken the hero in him... and the rest is history.
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>>149860569
The thing with people speculating it's going to be the flood is this.

> we know link wasn't there to stop ganondorf

> We know exactly how it got flooded and why, we then go ahead and put an end to that chapter after the completion of WW

A retelling of the flood wouldn't make sense, say what you want about zelda's timeline, but Nintendo knows how to make an interesting story and having an ending where hyrule gets flooded because the hero didn't get to ganondorf in time will cause a mass effect 3 uproar.

It makes more sense to make it a story about Link redeeming himself, knowing that the missions in botw will involve Link acquiring his lost memories. It will both fulfill the "how did he lose to Ganon" uproar that people went through and his redemption.
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>>149860441
It's probably the child line. The child line is practically empty.
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>>149861274
It is empty, but you have to take into account of the condition of both the master sword and the temple of time after twilight princess, that's enough evidence to rule it out
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>>149861594
They have never mattered before.
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>>149861274
>The child line is practically empty.
That's because it holds the most boring games in the whole series.
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>>149861690
How so?
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>>149861858
TP follows OOT.
WW follows OOT.
None of which have the same physical layout. Both of which require sword maintanance.
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>>149861965
>TP follows OOT.
>WW follows OOT.
>None of which have the same physical layout. Both of which require sword maintanance.

I don't think you played tp, master sword didn't need maintenance, it blasted the curse right off Link, not only that you go back in time like an hour later and the temple of time is almost spot on to oot.

WW has a totally different layout I agree, but I never studied WW map to make any comparisons to the other games, sword did need maintenance though
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>>149862290
WW's map makes sense barring two things. One of which is more of an issue with OoT than anything.

The Temple of Time becomes Hyrule Castle (likely built by Daphnes, OoT Zelda's son in the following years since Hyrule Castle is gone in the Adult Timeline) and the Temple is the last standing building with no destruction in that area, and the direction it faces. In every Zelda game, the Master Sword and it's Pedestal face South, except OoT, where it faces west. Now you'd think, well just rotate the map, but if you do that, then it messes WW up since we know the Forbidden Woods is the Kokiri Forest, or was, and it's Master Sword is already facing South as well, so that's just a problem with OoT.

As for TP, TP has a problem in that the Master Sword should be in the Temple of Time when TP Link travels back to it as well, though you can assume that the Master Sword follows no logic of time travel (though it should based on OoT) or that the Hero of Time before he became the Hero's Shade or some other Hero just had it at that particular moment as TP's Temple is different than OoTs. Not much, but it is.
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>>149766618
And Hilda wins.
This means Hilda will have to face Nabooru in the next match.
Now, to the next match. All Godesses have been kicked out, will Farore be the only godesses to advance?

>Eleventh match is Lana VS Farore
http://poal.me/u657vo

Usual disclaimer:
>I am just a normal guy making a poll on an anonymous imageboard. You can imagine I can't decide if a poll is rigged or if someone is cheating by posting the poll link in other threads/sites. I can't check such crazy variables. My borderline legal suggestion is: support your favourite girl and do it with all your strenght. Don't expect your adversaries to be 100% fair. That's it. And yes, we have already seen some cheats by this point.

Now, vote my friends, the poll closes 24 hours from NOW.
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>>149867853
R I G G E D
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>>149861706
>most boring game
You better be trolling or inferring TP.
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>>149871272
Games, anon, not game.
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>>149871272
M8, TP is great
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>>149873449
I'll deal with you later. Expect leaden rain Sunday.
>>149874776
I know, the only thing boring about it is poor item usage, something the upgrade system in SS tried to fix.
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One anon said he was writing a pastebin about Sheikah. Where is he gone?
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>>149875605
It's already 8am where it matters. People should just post from work
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>>149875891
I don't think 8 am is exactly a time for american neets to be awake.
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How about a brand new questionary?

>Year of birth
>Nationality
>Sexual orientation (straight, gay, bi, whatever...)
>Favourite 3D Zelda game
>Favourite 2D Zelda game
>Favourite Nintendo console
>Would you like a live action Zelda movie?
>Opinions on the NX rumor about it being a handheld?
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>>149875851
I'm here, I've been rather busy lately with work sadly. I'll have it finished tonight, I gotta deal with one of my dogs getting sprayed by a skunk here in a few minutes though.
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>>149878565
>Year of birth
1990
>Nationality
European
>Sexual orientation (straight, gay, bi, whatever...)
Straight with a shade of bicuriosity
>Favourite 3D Zelda game
WWHD
>Favourite 2D Zelda game
Link's Awakening DX
>Favourite Nintendo console
GBA or Wii U
>Would you like a live action Zelda movie?
Why not.
>Opinions on the NX rumor about it being a handheld?
I'm happy and I hope it's true.
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>>149878739
Oh ok, for a moment I was afraid I missed your post in a previous thread.
No worries, take your time.
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>>149878565
1990
US
Straight
WW
OoA
SNES (I have the most fond memories of N64 though due to one of my friends)
If done right, sure. I have no faith in it being done right however.
I don't think it's a handheld.
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>>149853186
Tatl's not from Hyrule. There's a subtle depiction of the Goddess of Time in Termina's clock.
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>>149878969
You the anon that wanted to help out with the email and all that?
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>>149878565
You're not getting MY info free survey man!
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>>149881768
Nope, I'm the guy that requested a sheikah timeline.
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I see that you guys have become fond of my terms "Main timeline" and "Demise Paradox."

Good to see that I made a mainstay impression on the Zelda fandom. I think that you guys misunderstand what I meant by them though because I wasn't clear. Breath of the Wild is the first Zelda in the timeline, because Skyward Sword doesn't form a timeline. It ends with the destruction of Demise/Ganon forever.

Link beats Demise---->BotW------>Zelda series

The past in SS where Zelda stays----->SS's Ending
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>>149867853
LAANAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>149882515
Yeah I should have everything laid out tonight. An anon wanted to go over it and help out try to help make it a bit more concise, so should be good to go by tomorrow or so fully.
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>>149878565
1991
American
Why does this matter?
Ocarina of Time
Link's Awakening
N64
Only if I wrote it.
Comfy
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>>149882629
Well BotW existing before OoT would contradict it as that's Ganondorf's first appearance and he doesn't learn of the Triforce until after the Unification War when Hyrule has to make everyone bend to their will.
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>>149882994
>Why does this matter?
It's the most vital part of the questionnaire, now answer it.
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>>149881768
I am elementsoffail, anon. I'll help with whatever you need editing and see if you've missed anything critical to your theories.
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>>149862290
TP upgrades the sword to function in the Twighlight Realm.Sword alteration quests are normal per many Zelda games.
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>>149882629
Uh. Ok. I guess.
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>>149883105
Good to know, I'm trying to get to the theories and such now, it might be in 3 documents, just so it's a little more concisely laid out, feel free to organize and change it as you see fit, I should have it finished by tonight or this evening.

I'm gonna have to run out to town and try to find something for this silly dog, 3 baths and the skunk smell still persists sadly.
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>>149882994
>Why does this matter?
Asking the fetish was getting a bit stale.
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>>149882629
LOL, nope.
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>>149882894
Thank you, really, take your time.
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>>149882629
Really makes you think
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>>149883228
Sorry that happened. Don't dry out their skin with too many subsequent baths! I used to work at a call center and asked a caller from some fancy groom salon if I should bathe mine regularly because some internet myth was going around that lots of bathing increases longevity in dogs. He said that causes the skin to become irritable. And aight, I look forward to it.
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>>149883382
All good, I enjoy discussing the lore, especially when it comes to the Sheikah.
>>149883667
Yeah I rarely give them baths except when they start to stink or their fur needs it. I'll be mostly looking for something to just try to mask the smell until it goes away naturally. This makes the second time he's gotten sprayed, the first was much worse, so that's something at least.
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>>149878565
>Year
1994
>Nationality
America.
…fuck yeah…
>Would you a ______
Asexual biromantic. I sound like a tumblrshit.
>3D
MM
>2D
LbW
>Console
N3DS, finally some POWA.
>Live action
Ew no
>Handheld NX?
Jesus fucking Christ, no.
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>>149885050
>Asexual biromantic. I sound like a tumblrshit.
Literally tumblerina shit
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>>149885050
>Asexual biromantic
I unironically want to understand what does it mean. Explain.
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>>149885315
Asexual means he doesn't want to sex others, Biromantic means he can still develope feelings for others, regardsless of their gender. It's not as tmblr as it sounds
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>>149885315
It just means he can develop feelings for people but isn't all that interested in sex. It's a silly name for it as most tumblr things are, but it at least is a common thing. Unlike some of the shit they come up with.
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>>149885445
>>149885665
It sounds akwardly adorable. I guess most Christian priests are exactly like that.
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So, in WW there are like three Gorons total. Gorons eat rocks.
Those that mean that eventually Gorons will eat all islands in Wind Waker? Will humans and Ritos allow it to happen?
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>>149888713
Dead Gorons become rocks, so total number of rocks remains steady.
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>>149888713
More likely, they'll just try to mine down into an island and get to the good stuff. So long as they don't flood their mining tunnels by accident, there should be plenty of rocks down there for them.
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>>149888713
Well places still exist where they can get back to Hyrule, typically those are for the Hero, but Earth/Wind Temple do exist and the ocean is a big place.

They do end up in New Hyrule and with a new Racial Deity as well, the Mountain Goddess.

It's more likely that Hyrule was sunken that flooded so that Holodrum and Labrynna can continue to exist above the ocean and that is where the Gorons now live and where New Hyrule ends up being, due to their previous history of New Hyrule prior to anybody living there seemingly.
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>You are now interested in a game wherein Death Mountain completely caves in.
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>>149889436
It's sort of like that in Twilight Princess, seems like a meteor just crashed into it and caved a good chunk of it in.
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>Gerudos are ded
>Zoras became postman birds
>Gorons are still alive and didn't change at all
Gorons confirmed for superior race.
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>>149890136
Gorons haven't changed since SS.
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This might sound crazy, but taken all together, it maybe makes almost possible total sense and can explain all games.

>Hyrule was lost to evil a long time ago.
>The pedestal of the Master Sword acts as a powerful timeshift stone, allowing Hyrule to persist in the way it was once.
>The seal is actually a time seal, so that evil attempting to reach Hyrule is aged to death.
>This is why immortal Ganon is still able to make escape attempts.
>The Sacred Realm was actually Hyrule at the beginning of all time.
>The time seal even preserves a dry Hyrule after the sea has claimed the world.
>The time seal stopped functioning when the king wished for Hyrule to be ended.
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>>149890581
Interesting anon, I never looked at it that way.
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>>149890581
Woah woah m8 calm down there, I don't want to think
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>>149890581
Doesn't a time seal implies that nothing and nobody inside it ages at all?
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>>149890947
Well the robots in SS when the stones were activevated showed their time flowing normally

Of course once the timeshift stone was deactivated they all went back to dead, or rather, went forward to death.
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>>149890947
Consider when Link struck timeshift stones with the master sword. The age of the area around him changed. Enemies that entered the zone, aged at the perimeter. The outside of the zone was crappy, and the inside of the zone was paradise. Make a big enough zone in crapland, and you get a big paradise. You might even drag in some of the future tech you used to do the job.
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>>149891275
One thing I really wanted in SS was to find a huge time stone at the bottom of the desert and when activated it would bring back the whole area back to it's glory days.
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>>149891426
I'd love to have a game that was set so far back in the past that everything was new. Instead of finding old weapons, Link gets them made brand new because they never existed before. No ruins, just buildings that people are actually using.
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>>149891684
So a game with the original hero that helped Hylia?

It'd be interesting seeing how the war against Demise was fought, in a canon setting rather than the manga
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>>149891684
>I'd love to have a game that was set so far back in the past that everything was new.

You do, it's called Termina, go and match it up with SS map and see.
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>>149891896
>You do, it's called Termina, go and match it up with SS map and see.
Holy fuck
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>>149892293
Think about it. The Ocarina of Time is constantly resetting Termina because it's already happened, it's a time-shift area itself, it can't be changed. This would eventually lead to knowledge of Majora's Mask and why it was sealed in the first place so it wouldn't cause a catastrophe. It's a loop, but a perfect loop.

The map matches up perfectly as well.

Great Sea/Lanayru Desert (the docks even matches up with the beach area.
Snowhead is Eldin Volcano and Goron Village is Fire Sanctuary. Dodongo Caverns also exists within Termina (granted it should be Dodongo's Cavern, but still)
Ikana matches up with the Kikwi Village and Stone Towers with Skyview Temple.
Lake Floria matches up with the river that goes underground through Termina and into the Southern Swamp.
Castle Town matches up with the Sealed Grounds and the Clock Tower with the Sealed Temple.

It all fits.
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>>149891251
So they separated Ganon from the Triforce of Power, but after he had transformed?
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>>149891896
>also four giants each in what would be lanayru, eldin, faron, and ordona

You've just broken my fucking mind anon.
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>>149891896
>All realms and dimensions are the same dimension at different points of time.
>Termina is the distant past.
>The Sacred Realm is the beginning of time.
>The Twilight Realm is the end of time.
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>>149878565
1990
French
99% straight

Majora's Mask
Link's Awakening

Hard to say, I loved the N64, GameCube and GBA, they all had great games.

Live action? Hell no, but a Zelda anime? If done by a great studio, with good budget and in OVA form it could be pretty good. Do I think it could be done right? I don't trust them to do something good, so ultimately I'd rather they don't even try.

I'm not a fan but I'm still waiting for official information before getting upset or anything, it's a bit early to judge at the moment.
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>>149893121
>If done by a great studio, with good budget and in OVA form it could be pretty good. Do I think it could be done right? I don't trust them to do something good, so ultimately I'd rather they don't even try.
You are now aware that a Shaft Monogatari style Majora's Mask anime on each of the side-quests NPCs would be perfect.

They did animate the Palutena Smash trailer didn't they? They did Link pretty good in that.
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>>149891896
>>149892717
>>149892957
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>>149893269
I will hold on my judgement for Shaft being able to do it well after the F/E anime is over.
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>>149892742
That makes no sense. Dorf needs the Triforce piece to become Ganon.
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>>149893269
I'm not sure about Shaft. They're my favorite studio but they might not be fit to do Zelda well.

Also what >>149893386 he said.
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>>149891896
>>149892717
>>149892957
>>149893036
All for the Hero.
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>mfw I'm the only one who wants Ufotable to do a Zelda anime
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>>149893425
Then why would they say the beast needs to reclaim his power?
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>>149893619
I want Ghibli to do a Zelda animated movie.
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>>149893776
>Ghibli
Anime was a mistake
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>>149893619
As long as it's not shit like Toei we're all good.
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>tfw Anno makes Zelda
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Did they show who was holding the Triforce of Power at the end of TP?
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>>149894117
Nope. I would assume TP Link would have it honestly, he does physically overpower Ganondorf, then again the dude can toss tons on tons of shit without any bracelet or gauntlets.

Though Ganon seems to have it in FSA again if I recall. So maybe it just shattered and spread with his death and we never get to see that part.
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https://youtu.be/z3CXQ23qvek

I love this stuff.
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>>149893582
That fool Link doesn't appreciate it.
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>>149894817
ALttP Beta always interests me.
>>149894906
One of them will eventually. She'll get her Hero. Not all of them can get with Zelda.
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>>149895302
>Not all of them can get with Zelda.
Of course not, after all there's Midna as well
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>>149895302
Probably safe to say that most Link's don't get with their Zelda. Most are thanked and then sent home. SS Link got Zelda, because he knew her before she was Hylea. WW Link got Tetra, because he knew her before she was Hylea. All the other Zeldas are still waiting for the first Link to return to her.
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>>149897235
Yeah, we know OoT Link either got Zelda or died falling down a tree.
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>Near the end of time Hyleans are struggling.
>A group of them decide to go to be begining of time, to steal the triforce of creation and bring it back to their decaying world.
>Some of those hyleans oppose the crime and follow them back.
>The invading interlopers are finally defeated. Their punishment is to return and face the gradual heat death of the universe under the cover of perpetual twighlight.
>The future dwellers that opposed them are allowed to stay in the past, but they cannot impact the events of the timeline greatly, so they must remain as the hidden Sheikah tribe.
>They must appoint a guardian to protect the passage of time, using the sheikahs unique knowledge spanning all of time.
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>>149900209
Wolf link is not a clever puppy.
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>>149900468
I wonder if Doggo poster left this general
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>>149900849
Hopefully he just stopped saying that stupid word
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Did you like this place?
I thought it was kinda neat, but really really tiny.
Like: How does everyone not know each other tiny.
Actually do you think this was really the size of Skyloft? I got the impression that it was displayed tiny for game purposes but in canon it would actually be much much larger. Does anyone else get this sort of feeling?
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>>149903737
No.

Worst town in any 3D console Zelda and that's amplified by the fact that it's the only town in the entire fucking game to begin with.
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>>149903737
I love it
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>>149897235
LoZ/AoL Link also got Zelda IIRC.
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>>149903737
>I got the impression that it was displayed tiny for game purposes but in canon it would actually be much much larger
The game IS the canon. And anyway, yes, it was very small. But it was supposed to be your comfy hub world where you can go back to and choose a level to go into.
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>>149903737
Zelda villages are always tiny to the point of inbreeding suspicions. At least Skyloft had more families than Ordon Village or Outset Island.
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>>149903737
I thought it was rather well laid-out and comfy as hell
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>>149893797
>ghibli
>not good
>not a great fit for Zelda in terms of style and tone

Horrible taste m8.
Not that it matters anymore though, the company is pretty much dying after Miyazaki retired. Last I heard they were bankrupt.
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>>149904335
Anon, a guy isn't forced to breed with someone from the same village he lives in. The world is wonderfully big, you know.
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>>149904626
I was memeing
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>>149904306
Hyrule Historia is the canon
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>>149904626
Chill, he was quoting Miyazaki.
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>>149893967
I'm down with him going full Eva on a Majora's Mask adaptation. Actually, he seems like a great fit for it.
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>>149891896
>>149892717
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJjJ4_0TDXY

When are we getting more songs being backwards?
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>>149904679
HH follows strictly the games.
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>>149905264
I wonder what this would sound like backwards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uR7doemZD0
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>>149905670
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHBBR3p1NOk
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>>149905925
It's horrible.
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>>149905264
No, but we're getting bits and pieces of main themes from multiple games smashed together instead.

You can already hear bits of OoT's title theme, Midna's theme and SS's prologue theme in BoTW's trailer theme alone. I think I hear a familiar tune from ALTTP as well.
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>>149906170
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4C7meIpDhQ

This sounds slightly better
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>>149905925
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>>149906332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3x3EaEA3nI

I really like this
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gonna wok on the next thread now
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>>149906710
Based.
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>>149906227
>Midna's theme in BotW
BULLSHIT
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>>149906985
It's true, anon
Truly a lie
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>>149907394
>>149907394
>>149907394
>>149907394
>>149907394
New
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>>149907181
>>149906985

>Midna's theme in BotW
>BULLSHIT


Not bullshitting. You can clearly hear it between 1:27-1:36 of the trailer. The three major notes at least (which is basically the three main notes of Zelda's lullaby in reverse.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rPxiXXxftE
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