Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

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/Ohayou/ when?

Atom here.

>tfw wanting to level a new character but I still can't figure out what to make it

>>149519476
is this game worth playing yet, or is it still a laggy mess?
i can live with being a swordie with no damage as long as i dont get lag killed every time

Did that one salute templar ever prove his guild actually exists?

6th at stuck at work just watching my guild get to slaughter Desu and GuiltyCrown.

swaaz here

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Hey what's up

>>149519623
nope, just another username with BR at the end and begs for attention

can you disable the stupid GvG messages from the chat? it's god damn annoying, almost as bad as gold sellers spam

>>149519870
I-is that Karga?

What are people's hopes and dreams for archer and cleric r8? I would like to see cannon get a bit better, but that will come with blast lvl10 and the confirmed magic circle buster.
Clerics I'm more interested in, I hope they're gonna be as interesting as sword r8 is.

>>149520782
I want Falconer3 to get something pretty kick ass.
Other than that, I hope both new classes aren't mounted like the names seem to imply.

>>149520639
Karga isn't the one in charge of Clover..

>start on orsha
>get motherfucking faggot ass quest from klaipedo
>motherfucking have to fucking go to mines after doing orsha quest

just fucking epin you fucking hehehehe man

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I hope the game suddenly becomes good on Tuesday!

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>>149520639
No.

>>149521324
u get the same from starting at klaipeda, the quests arent required

>>149521095
?

>>149521425
no i meant job change quest, i chose orsha questline that has less work to become a priest and got klaipedo one

So I'm about to make my guild and I've been wondering is there guild storage that anyone can take from?

Someone queue for 175

>>149521324
Happened when I made a barb once. Orsha is so much better in my opinion, all my alts are orsha residents now.

>>149521821
Nope

>>149521821
no

>>149521894
Orsha is bad for Clerics, since everything in that shithole flies.

>No info on whatever happened with that FP meeting
How am I supposed to decide if I want to join or not?

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>>149521821
Guild storage is purely for the GL's use, he can send stuff from there to the mailboxes of member.
Members don't have access to it at all, aside from viewing what's inside.

>>149522227
The meetup ended. I got the information I needed from 15 of our 31 current members. After that, we went to Bees for some 2fps hogland.

>>149522493
how long are you going to be doing the pvp thing tonight?

>>149522493
Is there a requirement now?
Is there any sort of idea of classes needed for pvp/pve?

>>149522368
>Karga has 5 hamster eggs, plus his and Mia's and maybe more
>FP has 1 egg

>>149522597
Not LP but we need another Sorc2/3 pretty badly, and we're painfully short on Kino3s as well. Both of those are from a PVP perspective.

The requirement includes a focus on one or more PVP-side aspects of the game, be it open world GVG, team battle, or guild battle.

>>149522829
I missed the meeting, when are you coming back?

>>149522589
We've been PvPing all day today. Fortunately, between Bad Apple, Desu, and GuiltyCrown, we've had a very high encounter rate this week. All three of them only engage in large numbers, and Desu partners up with GuiltyCrown, meaning extended fights are usually a bad idea.

>>149522597
From this point onwards, I am only accepting people who are at least Rank5. Everyone must be PvP oriented, either Team Battle or Guild Battle.

I am still in the process of doing a census on everyone in the guild, but >>149522829 is spot on. I'd like a couple of dedicated Sorcerers, and Kinos are still pretty good, even after being nerfed.

>>149523173
We'll have a second meeting tomorrow at noon(server time), just for people who missed this one. Anyone who can't make it to either meeting will be contacted individually.

Should I save rarities from worldboss drops and sell them after Tuesday?

>>149519613
what do you think anon-kun?
bit surprised this was ignored

>>149523324
For clarification,

>Everyone must be PvP oriented, either Team Battle or Guild Battle.

I meant that everyone must actively participate in PvP content. People who are PvE-only will not not be accepted. Doesn't mean we won't do PvE, just that the slots will be reserved for people who do PvP.

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pitch to me as detailed as you want on why I should play this game.

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>>149523859
Go play something else.

>>149522829
>Sorc
Sounds like a total pain due to needing cards and leveling them. Not exactly against it, since I know it's an easy grinding class, but I'd be hopeful for help in some form in working on it.

>Kino3
Isn't that a con focused build? That doesn't sound remotely fun to level, honestly. Kino is like my favorite concept of a class though, and playing it in beta was a lot of fun for me.

>>149523324
>I am only accepting people who are at least Rank5. Everyone must be PvP oriented
Does the rank 5 have to be pvp? Cause I have a rank 6, but it isn't particularly geared for pvp or anything.
I'm completely fine for working on a pvp character, but my main is probably not going to be all that great at it.

What is the ultimate spell shop pardoner build? Simony not necessary but would be a plus.

>>149522829
FP's sorcs are poorly built, why would I join a pvp guild with shitty pvp specs?

>>149523971
>needing cards and leveling them
Honestly not that big of a problem. The hardest part is getting the Temple Shooter card, which I'm sure someone in the guild would give you, if not someone from /tosg/ probably will. I had to level my Glackuman to 10 as well and had no trouble, you get plenty of cards just from your daily 200 runs and any alts you have cards lying around on.

>Kino3
Yes it is. Most Kino3 will be full con, and I won't lie, it'll be kind of a pain to level, but psychic pressure makes things a lot easier. I was Wiz3Kino2 so lived most of that life. There's two popular ways to do Kino3, either Wiz Cryo3 Kino3 which yes, will be a pain in the ass to level, but ice wall + pressure meme melts bosses at least. The other is Wiz3 Kino3 Warlock, which is the "I want to be a Kino but I also want to kill people" build, in which case your kill speed is as good as any other non-Ele3 wizard with quick cast surecast pressure, quick cast surecast pole, and quick cast warlock skills.

>>149523971
Sorcerers are wanted because Templeshooters are immune to FPS drops. They continue fighting regardless of client and connection conditions. They're really strong, so when 2 masses of players are struggling to move, the Summon can easily snipe tons of people unhindered.

Kino is mostly wanted for the disabling spells. All PvP-spec wizards must go heavy CON, it's not exclusive to Kinos.

The Rank5 requirement is just for the sake of culling people who drop the game before getting to that point. Up until now, I have invited anyone that asked, even if they were level 1. As you'd expect, up to 30% of those end up going inactive before getting to Rank5.

So yeah, it doesn't have to a PvP-grade Rank5, I just need to know you played the game that far and won't start posting here in /tosg/ about "Hey guys, where do I level up around level 80?"

>>149524269
priest3 paladin3

>>149524385
rank5 requirement is just so nobody here will shitpost about how you dont power level new members anymore

>>149524539
dvine please ask atom to rename valhalla to peanut gallery

>>149524385
what "pvp-spec" wizards do you even have, cats has low con

>>149524819
D:

>>149524316
>The hardest part is getting the Temple Shooter card, which I'm sure someone in the guild would give you, if not someone from /tosg/ probably will.
Well I wouldn't really be expecting to be outright given a card, just help figuring out how the grimoire works and the like and advice on how to best level them.
What would a pvp sorc build even look like? wiz3/linker/sorc3?

>>149524316
>The other is Wiz3 Kino3 Warlock, which is the "I want to be a Kino but I also want to kill people" build
That one sounds more appealing of the two. I can't stand not having any real power for myself in a fight.

>>149524385
>Sorcerers are wanted because Templeshooters are immune to FPS drops
Ah, so on the rare chance that this gets fixed, sorcs wouldn't be quite as appealing.

>Kino is mostly wanted for the disabling spells. All PvP-spec wizards must go heavy CON, it's not exclusive to Kinos.
Does it have to be 100% con though? Or are they free to do something like 2:1 con:int?

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>>149524819
It must be a damaged, troublemaker guild

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oh shit

>>149524430
>Spell Shop
>Need to wait for rank9 for Pardoner2
retard

>>149524792
He has enough to get the job done. >>149523218

It's fine to have one or two glasscannons, they can be protected by the Templar C2 Shield Generator.

>>149524965
>Ah, so on the rare chance that this gets fixed, sorcs wouldn't be quite as appealing.
It's not broken, it doesn't have to be fixed.

is the GvG scenario thinguie normalized like arena? and are you stipped of your special items?

or does everything count? like max level max attributed +15 items are going to faceroll GvG?

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>>149524819

>>149525128
>It's not broken, it doesn't have to be fixed.
I mean the FPS issues.
I know, it's a hilarious thought for korean mmos nowadays.

>>149524624
that's not me. when i was in futureproof i wanted to power level people. i never asked anybody to do it for me without me directly offering them money. i never ask for a free ride unlike somebody isn't my issue it was something i wanted to do myself.

i don't see why it's a peanut gallery either. they're active and do lots of wb and plan to do pve so they're pve heroes which suits me.

>>149524965
>That one sounds more appealing of the two. I can't stand not having any real power for myself in a fight.
Kino3 Warlock can kill anyone in one simple combo. You activate quick cast, and drop your Raise. If you caught someone, you place Pole of Agony on them, and they're dead. The damage is ridiculous. Pole of Agony is nerfed in both duration and damage on kToS (so probably for us Monday) but it still kills just about anyone in a single cast so it honestly doesn't matter. Gravity Pole is going to lose the CC aspect when the kToS patch drops, but still deals very respectable damage with quick cast, and you can use it to kill people you Raised.

Kino3 Warlock could get away with 1:1 CON/INT.

>>149525170
Gear matters in both Team Battle League and Regional Guild Battles in Korea. Skill scrolls cannot be used, dispellers included, but other consumables such as potions work fine. I don't know about the artifact sub-weapons as I've never seen them being used.

>>149525128
Wow, good job killing level 160 Desu members. Real proud of you FP
>>149523971
>rank5 requirement to join FP
You guys are fucking worse than FOE at this rate.

>>149525589
>you must play the game for at least 6 hours to join
>this is worse than FOE
Now THIS is Discordposting.

>>149525170
Some skills have pvp only mechanics, like reduced duration on debuffs, halved damage, etc. Otherwise, it all works the same. All PvP damage has 50% slapped on it, even for Field PK.

>>149525247
Oh, that. If they have any hopes of the game ever living in the long term, they have to do something about it. The current state of the game is hardly what'd call an Alpha State.

DON'T SAY ANYTHING ALIVE

>>149525385
That definitely sounds appealing.
I'd like to hear some more on sorc before I decide though.
I'm sure I have stuff messed up, but how would this be adjusted? https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21117666

>>149525702
To be fair, korean mmos get away with worse anymore.
It's just funny remembering aika and how buttery smooth that game was and it thrived on HUGE pvp battles.

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;^)))))

>>149526031
IT'S INCREASING

>>149525990
I don't know all that much about sorc. My leveling partner is rolling one but only taking one circle.

As far as I know, this is correct up until Sorc3. But I'd really have it proofread by someone with more experience in that specific class. I believe Karga plays this exact build, and can speak for their GVG ability from experience, so I'd really try to get a hold of them if possible.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21117666.133f657585.113545.1f2131516f83

>>149525692
>hurr any criticism against FP must be from discord
No wonder so many people hate FP.

>>149526413
Hi. This isn't my blog. She's gorgeous. Not married, soon. No further questions unless they're about the game please.

>>149525990
>Didn't link the right link
Whoops. https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111444f.293f51657585.1f6575.15

>>149526256
I dunno, looking at the skills just don't really strike me.
Getting to ride your summon sounds really cool, but eh...
I think I'll go with Kino.

>>149526590
Play the game.

>>149526680
I wish. The closest I can do to playing the game right now is murdering bees, but rest assured, bees are being murdered.

I think I'll stay away from FP, Clover seems to have less drama/shitposting in comparison. I will try to contact Karga tomorrow.

>>149526890
you don't have to do any shit-posting/drama stuff. I'm in the guild and I enjoy it without all that garbage.

>>149526890
FP here
Don't join FP
FP out

>>149526890
Atom here.

Join Valhalla, we make fun of Lolipan a lot. dvine is really good at it hahahaha.

Atom out.

>>149526890
Clover literally has an exploiter in their guild

There is a lot of drama on the forums about it

>>149527261
Which is?

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>>149526890
>I think I'll trust this general's opinion and falseflagging instead of researching, trying it and making my own judgement

>>149527308
I'm not gonna namedrop, but I'm sure you know who it is come on now

>>149527261
>>149527308
>>149527373
Patsch

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>>149527261
>forums

>Sudden error when changing characters crashing the game half the time
How the fuck do they break their game when not even patching?

>>149527672
Post the positive pregnant stick one

>>149527475
patsch did nothing wrong

>>149527789
>build is almost exactly the same as a lolipan build
patsch did a lot wrong

>>149527789
Yeah, he's just a selfish prick
Desu are just crybabies

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>>149527848
patsch was first and also thaum c2 not thaum c3

so patsch did nothing wrong

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so now that GvG arena is finally here, is F.O.E. finally going to come back and destroy Kekpedos?

>>149527789
except exploiting thauma bug to get millions of hp and overpowered summons

he even boasted about it in the thread
>>149440945

I sent this webm to IMC btw as well

>>149527350
Nothing personal, I just feel like I don't want to be associated with Futureproof's drama, that's all.

>>149527848
no. patsch build is great and outside of kino2 i'd recommend it heavily for pvp if you want the reversi and transpose over the magnetic field and other goodies kino has. patsch was mvp breaking their spawn camp a couple times.

>>149528235
Please point to all this FP drama

>>149525990
>>149526256
Here's the skill build on my Sorc: https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21117666.1d213f51657585.113545.1f213141516f718591a4

Bats will be your main burst, Riding in with TS and using its Rapidfire skill is also good for breaking positions.
JP is really good with your skills, use it when.
Once you unload your burst, hang back and let your TS do its thing.
Don't send it forward alone unless it's a 2fps situation, it'll get bursted down quick otherwise.

One weakness of the build I've found recently (fighting Desu) is against Invocation.
If you have your Bats out and a warlock MMs you, it'll kill some, spawning dark orbs, which kills more bats, starting a chain reaction that can kill you if you're standing still.
As such don't use Bats when dueling a Warlock while they still have MM up.

I'd still recommend Sorc2Warlock as a more balanced build, unless the 15v15 GvG arena really becomes a total slideshow.

>>149526890
Not that I'm dissuading you from joining us, but the FP drama is way overblown.

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>>149528165
imc fault not patsch fault

>>149528383
sorc2warlock is a dead end once r8 is out unless sage has good synergy with sorc/warlock

>>149528383
>energy bolt 13
for what purpose?

>>149527201
>dvine went from being the edgy bee mafia queen to being Valhallas clown
Not surprised at all really, if you think about it he was already a clown in Futureproof

>>149528713
how so? lock2 will still be good

>>149528782
Sounds like a bunch of self-entitled fucks in FP considered a lot of them got a free ride leeching xp for nothing in return.

>>149528713
Sorc3 is a dead end if Sage doesn't work with Sorc stuff.
I'm probably going Warlock1 if Sage isn't compatible.

>>149528764
Faster casting speed for a lv1 tapcast.
Where else are you going to put the points in?

>>149528796
Warlock2 seems to be reliant on spirits, which you will undoubtedly rely on invocation for mostly. So unless you want to time your magic missiles on 100k hp mobs for those spirits it's just lacking in synergy.

>>149528383
Aside from TS, what other cards are worth maxing? Would a strike damage-dealing summon be worth to use with Lethargy? (in general, not just pvp)

>>149528904
>not picking link2 and waiting for r9

I say it again,

wiz3linker3warlock2

Will be the future

>>149529193
That's a really bad build anon. I'm actually impressed at how bad that is.

>>149528904
I rather max surecast, recasting ever 15s would be annoying, also reflect shield might not be useless in GvG if there's a linker sharing SPR from a priest.

Also at lvl 13 you're spending like 50+sp just to get what a 130 damage increase? huh It just feels wrong, but I don't know I've never leveled it past 5 you're the expert.

>>149529020
Nothing else so far, but that might change when new boss cards become available due to the card system revamp.
I want to test out Rexipher as a summon.
TS is basically 2x the damage of any other summon with good range, AoE and crit, others just can't compete with that right now.

>>149529097
I'm still hoping for a good offensive R9 class, R8 is just all support stuff.

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I monopolize all the healers

>>149528383
Hey Karga what do you think of my wiz3pyro2sorc2sage theorycrafted build? Is no linker unbearable for sorcs?

>>149528963
But it doesn't have to be mm that kills the mobs? So long as invoc is up whatever you kill will spawn the balls

>>149529290
Not him but it's for the quick charge, the higher the faster at 13 it's literally tap and go

>>149529359
Sorc summon cannot trigger invocation. So how else are you going to trigger invocation? Timed auto attacks? Run into a pack of elite mobs with DT?

>>149529301
>217 and 231
I swear the 215~230 range is hell, don't get a single group without someone being way under leveled.

Anyone have that pierce vs cloth vs leather etc pic? Thanks

I have the Excrulon add on manager but I don't know what add-on is the one where they show the target's attributes on top of the target's name (IE XL flying demon beast etc)

>>149528383
Eh, I dunno.
Kino still looks a bit better to me, but I've got a bit before I've gotta decide since both builds are wiz3.
I kinda feel that the kino would be overall more useful though, but I've gotta think on it.
Can't even join until lolipan is online anyways.

>>149529560
it's literally on the addon description

>>149529560
Pierce beats Leather, weak to Cloth.
Strike beats Plate, weak to Leather.
Slash beats Cloth, weak to Plate.

>>149529290
I never use Surecast, Sorc doesn't have channeling spells.
I just took it for futureproofing with new classes.
You'll be recasting Quickcast with the same duration/cd anyway, having Surecast synced with it is more convenient than keeping track of a slightly longer duration.

You don't cast lv13 EB, you tap it for a lv1 with the corresponding damage/cost.
The higher the skill level, the shorter the time required to get that lv1 cast, so you can tapcast it more reliably.
EB is a quick knockback tool mostly, not really for damage.

>>149529303
No linker is pretty bad, even with AI commands, Summons have crappy aim.
You'll be taking a lot longer to kill mobs, and JP is actually good in PvP.
You're basically banking on Sage working on Sorc stuff, which might not happen.
If it does, I can see the build working, so confirm it first.

>>149529542
>It's another theory-crafter knows more than an actual player episode
Kysmm

How is Wiz3>Kino3
Like it's PvP or PvE?
And how do you build it?

>>149529552
They really need to just make lvl penalty stop being a thing when you use party search. It's bad enough that the one guy who's 15 levels under has a big sign saying "KILL ME" over him, but he also gets shit for EXP.

But I guess it would make too much sense for IMC to fix it.

>>149529820
I'm banking on sage working with pyro skills exactly as shown in the previews i.e. cloning fireballs and expanding aoes (apparently powering up aoes too according to the description). Also hoping quick casted pyro skills would make up enough damage to compensate for summon misfirings due to no link.

>>149529959

>>149523971
>>149524316
>>149524965
>>149525385
Read the thread these are literally recent posts.

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I'M EATING GUMMY BEARS AND THEY'RE BURNING MY FUCKING TONGUE. IT TASTES LIKE DISHWASHING LIQUID.
>MADE IN CHINA
FUCK YOU CHINA I WAS LOOKING FOWARD TO THESE GUMMY BEARS

>No pelta or Cleric in 145 dungeon
>We run out of time

How good is stabbing for hop1? Is it worth attributing?

>>149529878
>I have never grinded - the post
You do realize monsters get strong enough to survive more than 1 attack later in the game right? Unlike elememelock which can kill a million mobs and make a million spirits, a wiz3sorc build's main dps will be the summon and it can't trigger invocation, meaning it's an incredibly inefficient pick. Before the r8 previews it seemed good because DT is amazing by itself, but it's obvious now that warlock's gimmick is spirits and you'll need lots of them from invocation.

>>149530232
Git gud, stack magic def and defense and literally walk through using only 3 hp pots.

>>149528885
Evergarden gave free EXP leeches long before him, never asked anything in return and was a much more amiable person. Step off your high horse.

>>149529878
He raises a valid point though, Summons don't trigger Invocation, which probably includes Bats.
It's the same logic that allows TS to deal full damage in PvP rather than having the 50% penalty slapped on it.

I'll be getting Warlock1 (if Sage doesn't work) mostly for DT, though MM+Invocation is still plenty good in PvP against summoners.

>>149530046
It just seems too spread out in its purpose.
PyroSage is amazing in PvE, but Pyro in practice is pretty bad in PvP.
Sorc without Linker is passable in PvP but not great.
I guess you can knock your duplicated Fireballs into a positioned group, but in smaller duels Pyro without Linker has a really hard time hitting anyone with its skills.

is runecaster really as terrible as people say?

I mean rune of protection and rune of giants must be useful for pvp right?

>>149530319
>I have never grinded
Nice projection m8, multiple r7s and 280s of every base class.

>Before the r8 previews it seemed good because DT is amazing by itself, but it's obvious now that warlock's gimmick is spirits and you'll need lots of them from invocation.
Basing arguments from speculation. Yeah nice, 10/10 credibility right there, when the current information we have clearly shows Warlock is the best pick right now. I bet you'll argue about what to take for rank9 too lmao.

>>149530584
nope but its complicated

The .ipf files are damaged and cannot be read. The client will shutdown now.

>>149530479
How long is the leash for the summon when you use hold? Zoning with fireballs + flame ground and a TS turret could be cool.

>>149530771
This fucking game. I swear to god, a fucking monkey can write a program with less bugs than this shit.

>that feel when you do something embarrassing and contemplate changing your team name or quitting the game

>>149530676
>speculation
>literally what is said and shown on the previews
Read the page my man.

>>149530771
the fuck, same thing happened to me right now as i clicked the character selection button

>>149530778
If you use Hold, the Summon will attack as long as it's within sight range of you, so pretty far.
If you enjoy that kind of zoning playstyle, then by all means go for it.
GvG arena will probably involve a lot of space control, your build is probably more mobile than Dievs owls or Necro towers, allowing you to move your siege up towards their tower.

>>149530468
>somebody gave me something free before and it was better than what i got for free from somebody else
is this lolipan? seems like something he'd say. if you aren't lolipan why you don't have the balls to tell me who i wasn't amicable to? you realize you're just making yourself look worse. tell me what you gave me for free so we can compare.

maybe evergarden got tired of giving you shit for free while you did jack shit for him so he quit? maybe return a favor in your life leech.

>>149530479
>Pyro in practice is pretty bad in PvP.
>Fireballs of doom that's pretty much PoA with extremely low cd
>Can JP HK combo Fireballs into a bunch of players
>Players are too stupid to actually avoid Fireballs in gvg
To top off your post
>Warlock c1 for r8
10/10

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WHY WHY WHY

I have verified cache and redownloaded shit over and over again.

Sorry Cannelle, I'm stuck redownloading the patches because the client is screwed. I guess I'm not the only one.

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>>149530771
>>149531043
>>149531102

Nice illegal add-ons.

Enjoy your ban.

>>149531223
Actually, I'm in the same spot, ipf files died

>>149531225
I don't use add-ons and still got the ipf error

>>149531102
sounds like a server side problem, i've been playing fine all day and just now this happened to you, >>149530771 , >>149531223
and me, and probably more people

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so assuming I have wiz3, what would be stronger in GvG and arena; sorc2+warlock, sorc3, or sorc2+necro?

>>149531096
We were discussing Pyro without linker, depending on people's stupidity in serious GvG (Team Battle league is a lot more casual) is a bad bet.

There's really no better options than Warlock if Sage doesn't work out.

>>149531090
You're honestly sickest person in tosg. I mean mentally. You do people "favors" just so you can say that they owe you afterwards. You also keep attacking people who don't even give a shit about you. I don't even know anymore if you're just doing this for attention or if you're a literal scum.

>>149531332
I'm having it too.
Only when changing characters and it's usually after being logged in for longer than a few minutes.

>>149531342
Sorc>Necro2 into necro3

>>149531342
Sorc1>Necro1>Warlock1

>>149531342
>GvG
If you mean open world, necro is useless unless you have a way to make them stand still. I assume this applies to arena and Guild Battles but have never played either, so can't say for sure, just make an educated guess.

Sorc2 Warlock is standard in all things.

Sorc3 was covered in >>149528383
by someone who has a Sorc3 and actively open world GVGs with it.

ive had to do 2 fresh installs this morning, havnt had any problems besides needing to relog 1/4 times i change a channel.
had all these problems yesterday

friendly reminder alchemist3 will be the best afk class when homunculus literally never despawns

These fucking ipf errors FUCKL YOU

>>149531342
Kino3 or Linker Chrono3

i am getting the error when i try to log in too

dont use addons or anythin

>>149531424
lolipan anybody who came to my bee farm i did a "favor" for. what did i ask in return from them? i don't ask for shit unless it's upfront where it's a trade. the idea of a "favor" is hey i'll help you and later you can spare 5 minutes of your time to help me. in other words it's called goodwill where you help each other out.

when i summon people to bees, gave advice, paid for help, and early on gave rushes i didn't ask for anything. lolipan you're just trash who begs for talt all day level your guild while you go solo whatever crap you want then log out

it's really funny the sociopath who can ask somebody for millions of silver as to level his guild tower when he can't even help them quest is calling somebody sick. i thought you just had like ptsd and the worst experience of your life questing somebody. i didn't understand you're just a lazy piece of shit leecher at the time otherwise i would've gquit instantly.

lol my game is dead

Can someone post a Kim picture with hehehehe

That's what this ipf error feels like atm

>>149531096
>>149531385
Would pyro2/3link1/2sorc2sage be better than a wiz3 build then?

>>149531923
not this shit again...

>>149531837
>>149531681
>>149531569
its a klai only thing apparently, i was able to log in fine in orsha/shitlute, but as soon i try to login on klai game dies

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>can't even log in now

Not a single mention of this broken ipf files in the forums.

/tosg/ got banned

Don't worry! IMC will fix this by the time we all wake up!

>>149530584
Rune of Protection is... weird. The attribute scaling to SPR is just a dick move.
Rune of Giants is great, though.
If you're an icefag, the class is an easy thumbs-up addition.

This is a DDoS, calling it

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Tell me when Klai is up. I'm gonna go do something else

I can login fine what are fags talking about

>>149532249
>>149532453
>yfw CnL moved to crashing the server and not just channels

cleric feels like a mistake, what should i re-roll as if i give up on it

ive been having ipf file problems since yesterday morning, i did fresh install + verified game files on steam and its been ok
and by ok, i mean it crashes when i change channels, but is playable

>>149532103
That sounds better for dueling, but if you can find a Linker teammate (it's 15v15, chances are you will), then you can go with Wiz3.
One other option is Pyro2/Link1/Thaum2 over Sorc.
If you want to play the zoning game, Reversi is just amazing.
If you watch kToS GvG, a good part of fights is flipping around Raise and other circles.
Swell Right Arm also gives a ton of defenses for shield users, great for surviving in PvP.

>>149532449
>rune of giants is great
>cast it
>step on ein sof
>get healed to full
>over 60k HP
>double defense, nice
>rush into desu's defenses
>die instantly to dark theurge

Bullshit.

>>149532735
edit: nvm game is kill for me too, this being the 3rd problem ive had in 3 days
dont bother fresh installing

let me in, Kim

>>149530158
what the fuck gummy bears are you buying that are not Haribo you uncultured fuck wit

>>149532668
If you like the way cleric feels and plays but don't like the abilities give swordsman a shot. If you like the abilities but don't like the low damage try wizard. Archer doesn't really have anything in common with cleric if you hate everything about the class.

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>thinking about reinstalling
>read the thread
>might not even be able to log in because random daily game breaking bug
yeah I'll think about it next week

>>149532449
well my build would not include a cryo rank, but I imagine there's going to be at least one cryo>chrono, cryo>kino, or cryo>sorc who would beneffit from the rune of ice, and the slow on auto attack might be better than nothing for any one doing auto attacks I guess?

I'm mostly worried about the setup time in battle league allowing you to cast at least 1 or two runes before the fight starts if I have quickcast.

>>149532868
I usually buy the 1kg tub of Haribo Gummy Bears but they ran out. So I just bought a random budget pack of gummy bears. I just gave it to my little sisters and they were fine after a few bears but then they started spitting them out.

KIIIM !!!

>server has been kill for the past 12 mins
>admins logged in 12 mins ago according to forum logs

you literally cannot make this shit up

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Everyone stay calm. Kim is going to fix it

>everyone gets .ipf errors
>admins log on
>"hello saviors!"
>"we are now taking the server down for extended maintenance. this maintenance will complete at the normal time tuesday morning."

>>149532759
My DT does about 8k a hit at only 70 attribute and it hits 20 times theres no way you can survive this without Slithering/Ausrine.

>>149533343
8k in PVP? 8k in PVE is 4K in PVP.

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>server starts shitting itself before the big update
>close down the server until the big update
>after the maintenance you find out your character got deleted

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I'll be unable to restock my Pardoner due the ipf errors, I'm so sorry...

>>149533203
LOL

>>149532882
cool, i might try swordsman or wizard, any suggestions on classes?

>>149533609
ive had the most fun being a linker, but with soo many choices your best bet is to try what you think sounds cool

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MOMMY!!!!!!!

BUFFIES!!!!!!!!!!!

>>149533450
4k*20 = 80k
It's still a shitload.

>>149533813
Sometimes I wonder if this is just you making posts to yourself

>>149533807
yeah that was my problem with deciding whether or not to play this game, 16+ jobs a class with 3 ranks of each job in a 200+ level korean grindmmo

Server died?

>>149533906
no I just like getting attention from Canelle

>>149533906
I know who it is.
But I won't namedrop.

I'm bee farming in Klaipeda and I haven't run into any problems or serverside issues. Everything still spawns as normal and is dropping silver.

If you guys are seeing widespread issues, it may be due to something loadscreens are causing, since I'm not changing maps/channels at all.

>>149533919
Pick one class that looks cool and ask the thread what classes make a good foundation for that class or look it up, generally speaking that's the safest way to make a build. You will probably end up rerolling at least once at R7 to find the class that fits your playstyle.

>>149533980
FIRST LETTER PLS

>>149534026
dont log out senpai, if you log out you cant get back in

>>149533976
Same.

>>149534263
Will do, thanks for the heads-up.

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>>149534263
This is the opposite of getting databased!

>looking for an alemeth party for hours
>finally someone accept me
>nice party, lot of dps, fast killing
>let's channel hop
>ded

>>149534349
Only the ones still logged in will be databased. It's happening.

>>149534549
>Getting databased into this shithole of a Korean kikefactory

Jesus Christ, how horrifying, dodged a bullet there.

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>>149534549
>>149534026
GOODBYE RANCE I'LL MISS YOU

I'm sorry I didn't get to be part of your database skeleton army!

>>149534549
What?
Isn't database tomorrow? are you high or something?

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Saviors,

I regret to inform you that we'll be taking down Klaipeda for an undisclosed amount of time.

In the meantime, please check out our new MMO, Wolf Knights.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Sincerely,

hehehehehehehe

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>>149534549

i don't play ktos

what are some things to look forward to in the merge?

>>149534915
Heart pupils. Buy them quickly as girls(boys) with heart pupils will be rare and extremely desirable when database happens.

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>>149534915
ZOMBIE
BUFFS

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Is the server up again?

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>>149534974
>tfw a boy will never look at you with heart pupils

what is this database meme?

>>149535145
what?
the update is already happening?

>>149535361
It's from Log Horizon. When people say "get databased" or "database patch" here they mean getting sucked into and trapped inside of the MMO world. And then when you die getting revived as Rance's database skeleton army.

>>149535386
server is ded

>>149535414
Why are you so obsessed with him

Does anyone have that picture explaining how firewall works?

>Can't access after game booted me after finishing mission
>Go look at https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/alchemist-mafia/314084 because oh hey, that's still a thing
>It's STILL going and STILL getting more pathetic
>These faggots actually think they can go "on strike"

Just how disconnected are these guys from reality?

>>149535494
I just want to be a skeleton. You don't want to be a skeleton?

>>149535414
oh ok, i never got into LH because of their senseless diplomatics that i couldnt get immersed in

>>149535587
Rank 10 swordie class.
Comes with a costume that you can't take off.

>>149535534
you have to be pretty fucked in the head to roll a class based solely on making money instead of killing big monsters or other players in a korean MMORPG

>>149535534
thats funny, i did the same exact thing ingame. got the boot after finishing a mission

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>>149535636
>mfw when he falls for it

>>149535715
thanks for the keks lmao

>>149535587
Anon, I have shocking news for you. There's been a skeleton inside you all along. Please namedrop less.

>>149535501
please respond

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>>149535501
Here you champ

>>149535852
>Hehehehe I'm gonna talk about namedrops again so he knows it's me replying

kys Rance you damn hypocrite attentionwhore

>>149535994
anon pls

>>149536017
take a deep breath and relax dvine at least hes trying

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>>149536114
There's also this one if you didn't like the last

>>149536286
this is a shit

a grat one

>>149536286
I absolutely love that both these diagrams use the skull and crossbones. Things like that and hackers being depicted as men on laptops with ski masks and gloves on fucking crack me up.

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>>149536348

Why does IMC always have to do meme in like this man

>>149536530
Still ded server?

>>149536512
You joke, but why do you think nobody is allowed to access the arm/torch at the statue of liberty?

Fucking hackers, that's why.

>>149536228
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VtSpsqaIh0
rance is somebody who walks of the path of death and necromancy with me. if the thread was filled with his name i wouldn't blink. even if rance was judas himself he'd be my brother.

>>149535501
pleasee response

God damn ipf files.
I finally make it home after a grueling 12 hour shift and all I want to do is save trees.

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>>149536775

>>149536775
wait do you even hate anyone in fp besides loli?

>Verify integrity of game cache
>Two files are replaced
>Log in
>Doesn't work
>Try verify again
>Another two files borked
How do they accomplish this shit?

so how is this game overall? will a semi casual solo player enjoy it? i know its grindy and i like grinding usually but i probably wont be able to put as many hours in as id like to

>>149537054
no. the the most unhappy discourse i had with anybody in fp was just bot and i was just testy cause i was so happy with the change mostly. it's nothing to me just a disagreement how to approach something

Going through the game files for the first time because of this error.

Why are there files from 2005? IMC are you fucking serious?

>>149537281
This game runs on the Granado Espada engine.

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>>149537281
11 YEARS IN DEVELOPMENT

>>149537264
Well you grind quests until there are none left because the game is literally unfinished.

>>149537352
>ToS runs on an engine from over a decade ago

oh wow who would have guessed....

>>149537379
oh yeah? i was expecting something like RO, grinding cards and in parties in dungeons and stuff. is it not like that? i heard it was similar to RO but i dont know how much so

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>>149537524
The only thing similar to RO is not having a nose and putting some hats on your head (but not eyes or mouth)

>>149537524
You don't do that until end game, and that's only because we don't have all the quests yet. Sad reality is a game where you just group up and kill things would die immediately in the current market. The compromise is that there are items of rarity equal to cards in RO to grind for, but as far as the leveling process it's a quest based game with some occasional grinding hiccups.

>>149537524
Similarities to RO:
>soundTeMP OST
>isometric camera
>...

>>149537752
Ability to assign skill and stat points.
I can't believe this is rare nowadays.

>>149537493
Pangya's even older than that and still runs a billion times better.
And that is a game run by a korean company that fell apart and literally got cannibalized by Japan.

>>149537858
The stat system is pretty much the opposite of RO's though, which makes it garbage.

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F.O.E is looking for members. We are at 27/32 members at the moment (since I kicked everyone who left the game). Everyone can join us. It doesn't matter what class/level you have, and the only requirement we have is to be active. We are interested in the Guild vs Guild and Arena patch and will most likely take part in it. We level alts together, dungeon rushes and ET. If you have any other questions, just send Jinsae a message-

>>149537884
>Pangya
Is a golf game.

>>149537992
>santa hats
>end of closed beta
>anon was editing screenshots to give everyone santa hats for christmas
Good times that will never come back.

that feel when you didnt abuse closed beta and will never experience centurion

>>149538018
No, it's a dressup game disguised as a golf game.

>>149531330
>checked files integrity
>redownloaded 2 files
>still get same error

Thanks IMC

>>149538267
it's a shame. at least we are all in the same guild again

>>149538267
santa hat anon is alive and well, and he does it for the community of other games he used to play too.

he gets off to it

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>>149538267
;~;

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>>149538376
>mmmm yes, take that christmas hat you dirty slut

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Would you a Flamme?

>>149538491
lolipedrolaughing.jpg

is it safe to logout form klaipedo yet? I wanna try some addons

>screwed up build
>want to reroll
>think about having to go through all those shitty quests again
Any reason why I shouldn't just quit?

Still broken?

>>149538323
It's still not an MMO.

>>149538491
i wish i was joking, ive known anon for 3 years and he does it every year for multiple different communities
bless his heart

>>149537992
fuck off

die jinsae

>>149538673
ill try and log in now and let u know
>>149538706
questing isnt required, theres a reason why bots have 0 achievements / titles, its faster to cimply grind

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Tomorrow is our last chance to be databased.

It's the perfect setup for it. There's finally a content update. Your old friends who quit might come to the meetup. Everyone in CNL is a retarded anime stereotype. LoliPan will have to come to terms with being a real big sister and not just some literal pedro.

I don't want to hear anymore databaseposting or ohayouposting or anything because if it's not tomorrow night it NEVER WILL BE.

>>149538897
game is kill

is the game still ded?

>>149538897
>questing isnt required, theres a reason why bots have 0 achievements / titles, its faster to cimply grind
Are you retarded? Bots grind instead of questing because that's all they're capable of doing, not to mention silver drops. Questing/exp cards are far faster for leveling.

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>>149538951
I will take my waifu's hand in marriage.

>>149504562
>Wanna help leveling? I have a character your level range!
>Yeah, ok, I will be afk for a few minutes!!
>Checks friendlist 30 minutes later... Insert dungeon/level range map
>never received a whisper back
Every. Time.
Why I even try.

>>149539016
why do bots roll priest? how do they kill anything?

Ok who's behind this post?

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/calling-out-all-clover-futureproof-and-cutenotlewd/315202

>ipf files are damaged. Client will now shutdown
What the fuck is going on? My main server is Klai and I keep getting this error. I tried going onto orsha and it worked just fine. Tried on Klai again, doesn't work.

I've tried deleting the ipf files. Still the error.

>>149539150
Are you double retarded?

They can heal themselves and just auto attack for 24 hours a day with blessing + cafrisun + meme dagger. They have no maintenance.

>>149539150
Play the game

>>149539150
Because priests have the best auto attacks/auto attack buffs and bots are too stupid to do anything other than rotate buffs and walk around the map in a set pattern.

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>>149539225

>>149539225
swaaz out

>>149539150
constant access to buffs so you only have to auto attack to kill mobs

>>149539274
so do they just go full strength/dex priest?

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>>149539150
Because Priests get immense power without having to do anything more complicated than holding down z and are also nearly unkillable with self heals maybe?

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OHHHH SHIIIIIIIIIIII


https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/calling-out-all-clover-futureproof-and-cutenotlewd/315202

>>149539225
aCH, who else?

All of Desu has access to that forum account.

SERVER UP

>>149538673
Don't do it. You'll get ipf'd!

>>149539225
so Desu crashes the server to try to bring attention to a forum post?

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>>149539225
God damn it rofl

>>149539527
almost didn't fall for it

>>149539225
>Faggots showing them using mods that allow them to see other players' armor type at a glance
>Apparently, this ISN'T using a mod to gain an advantage over others

Explain this bullshit.

>>149539225
hahaha exploiting faggots BTFO

can't wait until you shitters get banned so you can finally fuck off and stop spamming these generals with your namedrop ERP faggotry while exploiting in the background

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>>149539626
I fell

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If I unquit tomorrow and come to a meetup will people be mad at me?

>cutenotlewd not being exposed
isnt swaaz

>>149539823
just comeback evergrade nobody hates you and mayori miss you

Servers are kill?

Who is up for some EDF?!

>>149539225
One Patsch video and 20 screenshots of his beloved AsunaJace... How did he extrapolate the rest?

>>149539741
The OP didn't say any of us were exploiting besides Patsch.

The thread's about toxic behavior in throwing all this blame/framing on Desu.

>>149539823
depends

>>149539823
Doubt it

>>149539823
We miss you Evergarden.

Just come back already. Please.

>>149539823
Be a man and stand by your decision. This game is shit and you know it's shit so don't waste your time.

>>149539823
I still miss you Evergarden and would love to see you come back. But you did quit the game for a reason and I hope you coming back wouldn't mess up that reason for you quitting. It's all on you friend to decide but i would hate to see you go again.

>>149539823
I'd really like to have you back. We lost Hat too and without you guys the guild's mood just doesn't seem the same.

>>149539898
>Who ever is using the Squire Tent glitch, i advise you to stop or i will continue to upload more proof. You know who you are.
He has more names but is being nice enough to just let you guys stop.

>>149540132
don't listen this virgin we miss you evermeme just come back come back with your friends comeback with your love

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/ipf-files-damaged-error-klapedia-server/315173

>They point out Rance
>A necro
Hilarious.

>>149540201
Yeah, he's talking about me.
>t. Korasai

I just buy a lot of soul crystals. You can ask anyone in FP, I used them during guild missions too, even when I die at world bosses or grinding or anything.

Desu is so pathetic they believe everything's a fucking exploit now.

I'M NOT EVERGARDEN

I'M SO SORRY FOR MY POOR CHOICE IN IMAGES, PEOPLE WILL DEFINITELY BE MAD AT ME

>>149540201
fuck you bitch go suck kiritos dick maybe he will give you a few ardes off his RMT plan you faggot

anyone who has made anything in this game has probably done something shady, Desu got their feelings hurt from getting shit on constantly and are now pleading with the GMs even though Kirito is a proven fucking RMTer

>>149540397
rip

>>149540297
>He's dead
>Pretty much proves he wasn't autopotting or running any kind of script
>Kirito's just mad cuz he can't afk with them

>>149540397
I didn't think you were. Was funny seeing the responses though.

Let's be friends!

>>149540172
Why did Hat quit?

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kek

>>149540496
Sexual tension.

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Even if Kirito and his guild try and point out the exploits of other guilds, Kirito and the inner circle of Desu will always be disgustingly shameless

Can you log back to the game yet?

>>149540496
Never heard from him. Secondhand I heard it's because he doesn't really like PVP.

>>149540607
yes, server is up