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KToS patch coming 26th July: http://www.tosbase.com/news/246/Introducing-the-Team-Battle-League/

Patchnotes: https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=551

R8 Info Swordsman: http://tos.nexon.com/community/dev/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=38

Previously on /tosg/: >>149519476

>Can I play the game now?
YES YOU CAN (Get it on steam)! R8 Soon!

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding.

>Add-ons:
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
http://pastebin.com/PrCkZ21n (embed)

>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : There's only one KToS server
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
Clover (Karga)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
FOE(Jinsae)
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)

Cookie Cutter Guide :
>Wizard and Archer still unedited, Discuss in thread before using
http://pastebin.com/aGk6Ku7c
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/Ohayou/ when?
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2nd for Swordie Age and Retarded Boss Hunting Restrictions!
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How many times can you pillage a mob using jolly roger?
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xth for butts
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Capyba > Lolipee
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please send help
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>>149564221
>still using the ktos link for R8 swordie info
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>149564335
once per mob
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>Yognome Monsters in 2nd Demon Prison will now drop items as intended.

Who's ready for the new Mithril Ore meta?
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>"Okay, I'll finally join the /tosg/ meeting"
>Maintaince is going to happen earlier

Goddammit, I just want to see my fellow BRs.
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Swordies are top tier now right
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Did they fix that stupid .ipf thing yet? I'm running out of leeway for that event.
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>>149564630
Yay! I hope the prices go lower after this change.
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>>149564630
This doesn't mean DPK anymore.
When people submit their drops manually there, it shows ?% because they don't have enough info to calculate a proper drop rate.
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>>149564745
Who the fuck said anything about DPK, numb nuts?
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>>149564745
Speaking about info pages like ToSBas, shouldn't the tos.neet have this information already? You know, akin to Rate my server for RO private servers.
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>>149564407
come to Telsiai.
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>>149564407
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>149564681
Yes
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>>149564808
How is this a new meta then? It's just a worse grinding spot, with less mobs and more travel time.
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New quests added
- Ibre Plateau
- Grand Yard Mesa
- Sventimas Exile
- Kadumel Cliff
- Steel Heights
- Igti Coast
- Grynas Trails
- Grynas Training Camp
- Grynas Hills

Nice
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Guardian Saint

19/05/2016 kTOS
For the Duration of the skill, Stamina recovery & SP regeneration will be increased.

ahaha

hahaa
where isit imc
imc whjere is ti
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Are there any guilds recruiting? All my friends quit so now I'm ronery.
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>>149565129
All of them because game is dead
Pick your poison
I'd say avoid FP though
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>>149565072
I don't want to sound hopeful, but maybe they will add the kToS balance little by little?

This one is probably in prepation for the PvP events.
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[Rodelposting Intensifies]
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I'm a real PvP Templar now!
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Those newly added recipe and items are nice. As with two more team storage collections.
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>>149565259
What is this garbo build.
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>>149565352
>Ditching on Katzen, Killer of Guild Dungeon Bosses

Why are you so mean, anon?
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>>149565503
why are you such a faggot?
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>>149565129
I dont think C* lover has slots now. We got a bunch of new people recently.

* that stands for CUTE !
keep your lewd thoughts to yourself, dammit >boys
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"[All Skills]
- Cannoneer skills will no longer be performed without the main weapon equipped when the character is using auto swap."

So how does it work now? Does it restrict from some classes in the build?

"Head Shot
- The INT/SPR reduction effect of this skill has been increased with 10% of the casting character's accuracy (originally it simply reduced 5 INT and SPR per skill level) in PvP.
So musketeer is all about full DEX now?"
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"new Damballa: Remove Knockdown attribute will remove all chances of enemies being knocked down by Damballa attacks"

Bokor 3 is saved?
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>>149564396
Any tosg gleader is better than Lolipan at this point
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>>149565873
>Cannoneer
Probably it won't work if you don't have a main weapon (crossbow, bow) on the main weapon slot on the weapon swap slots.

>Musketeer
Now they get something similar to the Crown INT/SPR reduction of the Highlanders, so it will be worth it going full DEX for PvP for a Musketeer.
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kys dvine
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>yfw bot goes from spying on discord to exclusively shitposting about dvine

Like pottery
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>>149566206
In my experience, a high spr target will rarely get afflicted with Headshot's debuff
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Lancer or Murmillo lads?
Can you use Lancer/Murmillo skills with 1h spear?
Which one has the better spammable skills?
I only have 1 Pelt circle to take advantage of Murmillo shield skills buff. Bad idea to go Murmillo?
Lancer interests me quite a bit but is it a mount-only class?

t. dead guy that might come back to life soon
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>no maid costume
uhmmm
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>>149566863
>no bunny
>no heart eyes
Mr Kim pls
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Game is saved!
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>>149566396
You are right. I totally forgot about the status resistance bonus that SPR gives.

In that case, it is just a nice bonus to have if it procs.
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Will the STR buff allow me to compete against fletcher mafia?
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>>149567001
Dead game
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>>149567050
do you have something that hits 25 times and on a 5 sec cd?
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bot-chan's channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q7Y7Mcp8bs
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>>149567235
liked and subscribed buddy
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>>149566369
is it bot? i know lolipan is posting anonymously attacking me a lot. come and give me a kyss directly bot. i saw your pvp footage taken at my location. you didn't get my permission to film dina bee channel 2 which is exclusive private property, but i'll let it slide if you give me a kyss
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>>149567235
TAKBIIIIR
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>5 more TeamStorage slots
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>The following changes have been made to Guild companions:
>Guild companions will no longer have a limited lifespan.
>Young guild companions can now be fed in half the time, and they can go without feeding for twice as long.

Long-live the Hammys
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>>149566551
we don't have enough information about r8 skills but what I can tell you is that rodelero and not peltasta is the one that synergizes with murmillo.
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Boss Monsters
- Contribution rank for defeating field boss will be changed like below.
After acquiring a field boss cube, the [Unable to Obtain Field Boss Cube] debuff will be on for 8 hours.
The debuff's duration counts down only when you are logged in. It will not proceed if the player is not online.
Debuff's duration does not stack.
You cannot obtain a field boss cube while the debuff is on.
While the debuff is active, the player is counted out from the field boss rank
(e.g. if Player A defeats a field boss and acquires a cube, the player and its party members will receive [Unable to Obtain Field Boss Cube].
After that, even if Player A joins a completely different party and defeats a field boss, cube will not be obtained and removed from the rank.)
However, the debuff does not stack. The party members that do not have the debuff will receive the debuff after obtaining the cube.


Pretty rough.
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>>149567001
>saved
No. Where's my maid costume?
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>>149565203

>it's a 10 seconds of setup and a rare melee hook play to do 50k dmg with a rodelero episode because he didn't went sword 3 to do stun charges like a mini-cata and will be CC'd to death or forced to waste slithering for low level ccs

no, thanks. I'll be there oneshotting people with hexen dropper this time
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Swell Brain - This skill now includes increased magic attack (base level 12.5, per-level increase 2.5).

This seems kinda worthless
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>>149567949
Why not pelt?
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>only thing to do endgame was world bosses after you've used up your saalus/ET runs
>world bossing is kill
uhmmm so what do we do now? just play other games for 8 hours or quit?
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>>149568149
Focus your brain cells.
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>>149568194
having pelt is extremely good but you only really need one circle of it to be useful. Rodelero 3 on the other hand boost all your strike skills which murmillo has.
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>>149568194
pelt too, but rodelelro skills are stronger with the slithering and high kick bonuses
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>>149568465
hey moonie post the stinky feet erp
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>>149568567
Circle 3 pelt gives and armor break, Butterfly got buffed too
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>>149568684
of course pelt 3 rod 3 will work great but by no means the best for murmillo. Having a hoplite and/or corsair will provide more utility and damage
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>>149568905
You want damage you go pelt 2 rode 3 shinobi murmillo.
There's no reason to go anything else unless
>pvp meme
In which case you should roll a cleric instead.
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>>149568905
>>149568567
>first half lowercase
>second half capitalized
murmillo is pelt4 giving it spell damage reduction so pelt can finally become a real tank. it has high damage aoe spells for getting threat and even disables which pelt is lacking.

rodelposters will be on suicide watch
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>>149567324
yes.
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>>149564630
They already drop Mithril dumbass
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>IMC saw how LKchat was better than their chat and implemented it

G-Guys, is the game being saved right there? They're seeing good things that addons bring and implementing it.

I know it's just ONE good thing in the sea of despair, but still, I fear that I'll have to actually play this game.
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>>149564630
They always dropped mithril.
In fact, I used to farm mithril in 2nd Demon Prison when I needed.
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>>149569243
yes you'll give me a kyss? come to my channel and deliver it. buzz buzz.
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Quests being added to maps means we don't have to grind anymore right?
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>>149569297
>if we had pservers imc would be adding features from them rather than shitting and ruining the game

rly makes u think
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>>149569574
>taking the leap in logic from add-ons to pservers
kys pserver scum
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>>149569535
For some levels yes, but they are not enough to get to level cap, most likely.
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>>149569749
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>>149569367
nope, they didn't drop any items, just like the patch notes said. not sure what the point of trying to misinfo this is.
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>>149569535
>>149569770
yeah, only less grind. they dont give that many cards.
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Won't most of the addons break with the new changes?
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AW FUCKING YISS BiS QS3 GLOVES BABY
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So who's spending TP for the first time here?

I'm buying the Penguin, 3 costumes and some hair dye. Gonna be like $70.
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How should I spread my skill points out for priest3 going into chaplain? I know I should max bless but frankly everything else seems kind of up the air. Is sacrament worth maxing to get more out of last rites or aspersion? And does the aspersion attribute apply to aspergillum?
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>>149569909
It's not that they didn't dropped items. They dropped the wrong items. More specifically the Tenet Church Yognome items. That means they dropped mithril ores as well.
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>lv 50 dungeon
>instantly get one pardoner buff pushed out because of using concentrate + gungho when allies want to spread their cutesy shit fucking lv 1 reflect shield and archer buff
>priest recast their sacrament after mine is pushed out due to buff cap, don't notice that, keep pushing buffs out of cap with their shit
>rinse and repeat
>by the end of the dungeon realize all my buffs are gone and it hasn't been even 30 minutes

very epic friends upvotes for everyone
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>>149569909
No, they do
They might won't by tomorrow anymore
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>>149570164
>qs3
what about muh cafrisun
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>>149570298
Don't worry lad, I'll start selling cheap daino scrolls soon
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>>149570242
If INT Chappy:

15 in Blessing
15 in Aspersion
1 Sacrament
5 in Revive
5 in Mass Heal
4 in Resurrection

If SPR Chappy:
15 in Blessing
15 in Aspersion
5 in Stone Skin
5 in Revive
1 Mass Heal
1 Sacrament
3 Ressurection

No Sacrament isn't worth maxing and yes the attribute applies to Aspergillum.
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What if lolipan vs dvine is all a ruse.

It's actually a cover for dvine to act as a spy?
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>>149570164
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/503105/

This is better.
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>>149570298
Pardoner and Self Buffs need all be 2nd line. Fuck that goddamn shit.
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>>149570517
dvine doesn't has capacity to do something that complicated for him.
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>>149570492
Stone Skin isn't worth it if you don't invest in SPR?
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So how much is the penguin mount?
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>>149570207
probably going to buy a few more character slots and a penguin
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>>149570713
No.

It falls off hard in late game with no SPR. If you have SPR though, it is a beast of a skill.

You could take a point from res and it in SS for your Tank if you feel like it but it's not needed.
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>>149570810
1 human soul
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>>149570492
Cool. Thanks alot friend. May your main be blessed with kToS buffs.
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>>149570713
At level 280 having a Stone Skin with 1200 BLK is okay (so 200 SPR).

For pvp spr is mostly useless for stone skin.
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Monks worth playing now with all those buffs?
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>>149570910

Guess who's buying one tomorrow
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>>149570810
399 TP.
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>>149570810
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>>149571087
Ask koenig
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>>149571184
>$20 for a digital penguin
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>>149571345
Worth every penny nigger.
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>just discovered there are two full-pinoy guilds on Orsha
Has comfy bullied them so hard that they moved to a dead server?
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>>149571345
A real life one is way more expensive
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>>149570675
Nice damage control
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>>149571345
>not wanting a penguin

hehehe kill yourself
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>>149571345

How cheap can you be. $20 is literally nothing
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>>149571345
There won't be a cooler mount than the penguin.
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>>149571553
>cooler
eheheh
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Name drop cute couples
I'll start threejane and Mozart
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>>149571345
Man they gave us $5 worth of TP for free.

Plus you have your free 5 TP.

It's not that bad for a premium mount.
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>>149571656
ur wifes son and ur mum
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>>149571656
Canelle & Trappe!
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Yo where the fuck is the Highlander C3 Costume? I thought that was already in the game but the TP shop doesn't have it.
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>>149571656
Drake & Josh
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>>149571656
Me and (you)
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>>149571345
That's a very good price for a mount.

I used to play an old MMO called FlyFF and the super premium mounts in that game were like $80. That was in 2004 money.

$20 for a penguin that everyone can use and that has actual practical purposes for Catas and Hunters is pretty damn good.
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>>149571184
I wonder if any class can mount it like the red panda. Honestly would have preferred the red panda but fuck farming TBL for 400 days straight.
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>>149571656
Atom and Lolipa
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>>149570096
They work fine in kTOS, I don't see why would they break here.
Ok except the chat addon, I never tested that one.
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>>149571345
>he didn't get free tp for silver when they gave compensation for tokens
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA IMC PAID FOR MY PENGUIN BOY
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>>149571896
>Hunter
>Attack penguin go!
How are the penguin stats anyways? Same as 2fpshoglan?
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>>149572018
I did get the free TP nigger. Maxed my character slots and got a costume.
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>>149572050
IIRC the penguin is actually the best pet in the game stat wise.
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Guys, should i make sorc or necro for afk farming? which one's easier?
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>>149571725

>highlander

Just accept
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>>149571907
>I wonder if any class can mount it
Yes.

someone post that bunny-wizard-slut-on-penguin.webm please. somehow i dont have that one saved
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>>149572217
>afk farming
Play the game.
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>>149571345
Mounts in WoW are $25-30.
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>>149571656
Mia and can't say
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>>149572359
fag
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>>149572325
At least WoW mounts are dragons and other shit.
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>>149572276
well i've got the autopot addon.
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>>149572359
delete this
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>>149570207
I'm considering a penguin but $20 is kind of steep.. It's better value than the $20 hair at least..
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>>149572325
You can also get 200+ mounts for free in WoW
How many different mounts are there obtainable in game in ToS?
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>>149572762
3 after update. 4 if you count the eagle.
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So is moonie coming back? I miss her(his) butt.
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- This skill now allows you to carve a maximum of 5 sculptures in PvP.
- This skill will now provide protection for 10 times in PvP combat.
- The duration for this skill has been changed to 15 minutes in PvP.

Does that mean I can kill it in 10 hits?
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>>149571656
Me and my crush
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>>149572857
>3
What 3? You can only get the gerbil thing for free.
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>>149572918
You can't call yourself cute that's the opposite of cute
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>>149572982
The one you get for being a Cata/Hunter/SR
Hamster
Lesser Panda

The ugly duck thing if you don't consider spending silver as spending anything.
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>>149573020
>opposite of cute

L-lewd?
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>>149572228
I just want the costume anon, I thought it had been released already!
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>>149573108
rude
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>>149573115
>>149572228
>IMC confirms Skyliner nerf will stay
>get a Skyliner gem
T-thanks...
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>zombie buff not listed in the changes
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>>149573108
No. That is the same as cute.
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>>149573101
>ugly duck thing
Does anyone actually use a Hoglan over Velheider?
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>promise all of kTOS updates
>only get half of it

THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
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>>149573260

all the patricians who bought the best founder's pack
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>>149573260
I got 2 Hoglans and a Velheider.
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Penguin
HP 1479
Physical Attack 62
Physical Defense 20
Magical Defense 20
Accuracy 62
Crit Rate 21
Evasion 62

+Additional 30 Phys/Magic damage for player when mounting.

Hoglan
HP 1411
Physical Attack 59
Physical Defense 20
Magical Defense 20
Accuracy 59
Crit Rate 18
Evasion 59

Velheider
HP 1479
Physical Attack 59
Physical Defense 20
Magical Defense 20
Accuracy 54
Crit Rate 13
Evasion 54

Pet stats.
>>
>muh red veris gloves
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/502101/
>poor man's vubbe fighter gloves
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/513103/
>poor man's windrunner
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/503105/
>alright
>a bunch of other minor shit

meh
>>
>>149571656
Koenig and alcohol.
>>
>>149573317
>promise all of kTOS updates
>all
source!

if they really did. they will add the other stuff in some weeks/months.
>>
>trying to purchase more TP for tomorrow
>put money in bank
>try to use a debit card
>declined
>call bank
>"we busy"
>this goes on for a while
>finally got through
>"I'm sorry sir, your card have been canceled due to fraud suspicion. You need to go make a new card."
>mfw
>>
Penguin and Velheider are M sized.
Hoglan is S.
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>>149573540

fucking p2w
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>>149573540
HOGLAN AND VELHEIDER BTFOOOO
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>>149573625
what's the pratical difference
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>>149573614
I'm just going to buy Steam cards at target since I don't trust Steam not to get hacked.
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>>149573540
>pets have different stats
For what purpose? It should just be cosmetic.
>>
>>149573614
Yeah I get that problem too. I just use steam cards or paypal
>>
>>149573540
What wiz skills can you use while mounted? All of them?
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>>149573741
AOE mitigation, I guess, since M sized mobs eat up 2 "AOE ratios".
>>
>>149574050
>wiz
>mounting
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>>149573990
B-But I'm spending real money on it! It's allowed to be better r-right?
>>
>>149574067
So Hoglan is actually worse than the others?
>>
>>149574050
None.
Only Mount-classes can use skills on mounts.

>>149573540
Wasn't it 30 Defense? Source or lie.
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>>149574131
Yeah, but it probably only somewhat matters in pvp.
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>>149573540
Hmaster >>>>>>>> everything else
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>>149571656
Evergarden and Kayori
>>
mummy
buffes
xD
>>
>>149573614

bind your debit account to paypal and use that
>>
>>149564396
are capybas good home mascots?

they seem so chill, but also a bit wild, I'm afraid they'll go berserk out of nowhere and eat my face
>>
>>149574549

They seem pretty chill. One of them even manages a guild here
>>
I just started playing this. Does swordman need dex or do i pump all points in str and con?
>>
>>149574392
Why is Mia so cute? How does she do it?
>>
>>149574778
If fencer dex
If hoplite full str
If anything else just mix them up
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>>149574131
The only time Hoglan ever matters over velheider is if you use hunter.
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>>149574851
She's a miracle of the universe!
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>>149571184
is that like a limited time offer or what's the deal with the discount?
>>
>>149574778
I'm going high3doppel2 with 3:1 str:dex
As for con you just get a amount that you're fine with, usually its around 50 con.
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>>149574985
SLUT
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>>149575370
Rude don't call Moonie a slut!
>>
>>149574392
I love the word triumvirate.
Centurion confirmed R9.
>>
Nulight's youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSpmFyLpy_s
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>>149575684
gotta combat exploiters like desu with exploits yo
>>
>>149574549
They love water, so I guess you'd want a huge ass garden with a big pool or something. They're probably incredibly expensive or outright illegal.

Have a cute capybara video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_3990665239&feature=iv&src_vid=OSEqnzYwolk&v=xuSK3YYSkuU&ab_channel=octavioreis
>>
>tfw considering making a hunter so i can be a penguinter
>>
Which skills on Wizard C3, Elementalist C3 and Warlock C1, "Quick Cast" doesn't reduce casting time?
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Comfy's training for PvP!

We lost so many times to the Cryokino team.
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>>149576042
>capybaras are fat, hairy and lazy
That explains a lot.
>>
>>149574978
wait what, hoglan is better for hunter? you sure?

I thought hoglan was better for cata and velheider for hunter
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so the game will be better tomorrow? Geropi-tan had to take a break because she reached level 85 and the game got way too boring...
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>>149576042
Pretty sure they are 100% legal to own
But they are expenive and needs a pool because they spent most of the day in the water
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LxK7iFChVI
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>>149576560
No, it's still the same game. There were just some nerfs/buffs and a couple more hours of content.
>>
>>149574392
who's worse, mia or cats
>>
>>149573540
>+Additional 30 Phys/Magic damage for player when mounting.
>only helps cata and SR
>no additional stats for hunter
T-thanks IMC.
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>>149575684
>4chan rejects
>uses a webm that was posted here

I knew this place was infested with forum and normie trash,
can't take anything being said here at face value
>>
>>149576560
I love you Geropi-tan!
>>
>>149576560
Most parts of the game will not be less boring.
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>>149576756
the boy
>>
>>149574978
>>149576386
No, it makes no fucking difference, the stat differences are too little to matter. Only pumping silver into stats actually matters and only if you pump a shitton of it. Also rushdog always hits, so accuracy is worthless since pet auto attack is worthless.
>>
>>149576560
Events and PvP are here. Take that for what you will
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>>149576926

Wait a second, can I have hammy as my battle pet when playing hunter?
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>>149575684
patsch did nothing wrong
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>>149577121
Of course you can use the hamster
But if you can't still feed it after patch it would be the real only cosmetic pet
>>
>>149574721
>They seem pretty chill. One of them even manages a guild here
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>>149577250
I mean would it be using skills like Rush dog etc
>>
I've done the scavenge quest every day, but for some reason, it only gave me 3 settlement potions instead of 2 exp tomes today.

Did IMC fuck up and that's what everyone got, or is my account fucked up?
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Give me all your clerics. The rest can suffer
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>Catas get 70% CC resistance with 100% uptime thanks to Trot
>Another 20% in PvP with Endure

They need to be stopped. Literally.
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>>149576759
>>149573540
But its 30 Phys/Magic Defense.
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>>149576220
guys...
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>>149577376
Today is the 7th day, you got the correct item.
>>
>>149573540

born too late for exploring the world

born too early for exploring the stars

born just in time for penguin calvary
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>>149577464
why did you even mention trot, the 70% resistance comes from rush and it lasts 10 seconds, how is trot involved in that?
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ITOS WE PATCH YOU

YOU HAPPY NOW?

HEHEHE
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>>149577705
Ah, it's only during Rush, not Trot. Okay that makes it less retarded, then.

Ultimately, Catas only run around doing nothing until Rush is off cooldown anyway. Changes little.
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>>149577890
>what is lancer
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>>149577734
Thanks for giving us shit that we should of had to begin with and thanks for still not fixing the party bug I love playing solo while watching all my friends slowly go offline and never come back.
Take my money for that awesome penguin and keep fucking me up the ass Mr.Kim senpai.

t.tosg cucks
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>>149577169
My bot chaplain is doing nothing wrong as well, hehe.
>>
>>149576386
>>149576926
Hoglan has a higher attack and crit growth value, which is factored into rush dog damage. That's not to say that it'll make your pet into some juggernaut, but every point matters.
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>>149577575
Doesn't make a difference, it says only when mounting, means hunter doesn't benefit.
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>>149578030
shut up kim !
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>>149577605
That looks nothing like the falconer outfit, but it would be a nice C3 costume.
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F.O.E is looking for members. We are at 28/32 members at the moment (since I kicked everyone who left the game). Everyone can join us. It doesn't matter what class/level you have, and the only requirement we have is to be active. We are interested in the Guild vs Guild and Arena patch and will most likely take part in it. We level alts together, dungeon rushes and ET. If you have any other questions, just send Jinsae a message-
>>
>>149577734
>>149577984
t. desperate samefagging doomposter who doesn't play the game
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>>149578132
Pet crit formula is shit and hoglan doesn't have a higher attack, they both have the same base atk. >>149573540
The crit growth value is so miniscule, it practically makes no difference.
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>>149578332
>t.

kys
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>>149573614

>okay this card's fucked but maybe I can transfer the money from the account through online banking to Bank B
>forgot details
>call bank... again
>"we busy"
>finally got through
>"who am I speaking to?"
>"anon"
>"ID number?"
>"XXXXX"
>"where did you open this bank?"
>"XXXXX"
>"alright how can we help you?"
>"I forgot the details for the online banking"
>"oh online banking's down right now. Please try again 2 hours later bye"

Fuck online transactions.
>>
>Revive
>- Duration: Reduced from 90 seconds to 30 seconds.

SUCK IT PRIESTKEKS
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>tfw waiting for your crush to come online
>>
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>tfw your crush quit the game
>last online 1 month ago
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>>149578907
I too enjoy wasting 3 ranks to be a shitty version of Chaplain instead of going str to do damage.
>>
>>149578132
Pet crit only affects the pet's base attack. The skill damage from rushdog doesn't get multiplied by the 50% crit bonus.

scroll down to pet mechanics
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/damage-guide-the-big-formula-modifier-types-and-how-they-interact/118950
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>>149578754
Suck it, casts-it-all-look-at-me-I'm-not-useless cleric.
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>tfw you want to marry your crush
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>>149578538
We can add lying to the list.
>>
> Monster spawn rate will be increased, with certain monster species now respawning two times faster.

:^) It's too bad you lost all your players before you did this, IMCompetent.
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>tfw not anyone's crush
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>>149579186

Lose weight
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>>149579312
M-maybe someone will confess to you at the meetup tonight!
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>>149579276
There are still many. And even more will come back or start playing.
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>>149579703
7,000 is not a lot, friendo. There are dead games with more active players than ToS.

Hell, there are private servers for shitty games with more active players than ToS.
>>
>>149578754
It's only for pvp arena, dumbcock.
>>
>>149579824
Learn how to read, retard.

The skill before it and after are pvp changes, this one didn't say that.

Now go kill yourself, retard.
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>>149579798
But its many!
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>>149579667
Don't bully namedropper-chan!
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hehehehe
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>>149579684
I doubt it... I don't think people like me
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7iVLoJnomo
PD buffs announced!
>>
>>149580104

Nobody likes a moper.
>>
>>149579909
Shitstain, it's a pvp only change, just like in kToS.
Same for the attribute not changing the duration. Only pvp arena.
>>
holy fug tree of savior has 30k players right now this is great the patch saved the game yay

just kidding. it's down to 4k. enjoy your dead game.
>>
>all these johnny-come-latelies rolling swordies now

bandwagoning faggots, the lot of you.
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popolions > porings > slimes > chocobos
>>
Guys! My do you think my friend will like the new update? She hasn't left Crystal mines in a long long time but maybe this will get her to come out and hang out again!
>>
>>149577420
>implying clerics are needed in missions
>>
>>149580296
Reminder if you didn't already have multiple 200+ swordies before R8 announcement and you're rolling one now you're a fag.
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>>149580490
>imlying clerics aren't needed
the only time clerics aren't needed are when there are fletchers
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>>149580364
fuck off
chocobos > all of that faggy shit

and a better comparison would be moogles
>>
>Guild Battles are a type of PVP play that sets guilds of different servers against each other to compete for victory. They will be available twice a day and the overall guild ranking will be determined based on ELO rules.
>They will be available twice a day
When they are avaible? Of course it's gonna be a retarded time for everyone not living in NA
>>
I'm trying to be a terrorist with lvl 15 detonate. Is it ok to leave stockades at lvl 1? I also will have lvl 15 claymore. And lvl 5 Beheader with expensive guitar wires.

If only I could collar bomb my pet and send it on a vacation to infidels. No broom stick, absolutely haram.
>>
>>149580104
>>149579312
Shut the fuck up Koenig.
>>
>>149580854
How would this work smoothly if we're fighting people from the other side of the earth? Desync lagfest?
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>>149580902
Koenig already knows I love her silly anon
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>>149580648
t. missinfo or shittier or both
>>
>>149581208
jesus fucking christ
>>
quick
name a class that you want to see in the game

me:

beastmaster, but unlike paladin, you can keep the pet and level them up.
>>
>>149580648
>>149581268
As a cleric i agree that we're not always needed for missions, we do make it go smoother but not always needed. If people actually took their time to dodge or knew how to dodge everything and having someone to tank/kite the bosses properly a cleric is not needed at all, but its extremely hard to get a party like that with how many shitters are out there
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>>149580854

It is open for 4 separate sessions each day which are an hour long : (EDT) 4 a.m., noon, 7 p.m. and 10 p.m.

Source: https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=546

Which translates to, for us here in Telsiai,

4:00 PM
12 Midnight
7:00AM
10:00AM

Fuck IMC, truly.
>>
>>149581423
Royal Guard
>>
>>149581423
Electromancer
>>
>>149581503
Does this apply to Guild BAttles too or only for Team Arena?
>>
>>149581423
Something like Red Mage or Blue Mage, or maybe even Samurai
>>
>>149581423
Thief, because I'm tired of MMOs not having a thief class.
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>>149581423
Gunslinger with dual pistols
Demonhunter too
>>
>>149581423
R9 hidden class Lich for Necromancer3s

R10 Overlord class for mage that can create dungeons/hideouts/housing which are based on your class choices
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>>149581423
Sura
>>
>>149581503

>4PM
Working hour

>12AM
Sleeping

>7AM
Preparing to go to work

10AM
Working hour

Looks like SEA's PvP scene will be dominated by NEETS.
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>>149581423
geomancer, and it would be a great way to introduce more sources of earth damage.

the lack of geomancer makes my heart cry
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>There are people on tosg who post on the official forums
>There are people on tosg who get BTFO by people on the official forums
>>
>>149578754
The patch notes are a complete clusterfuck and a lot of stuff is downright wrong. I'm pretty sure we're getting everything latest to kToS and the patch notes are just completely fucked.
>>
>>149581423

R10 Emperor class with the prerequisite of Templar 3. Actually deliberately overpowered to reflect the gravity of being a guild leader.
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>>149581623
These are team arena times, guild battle are 2 session probably in the middle of them.
Retards time for EU and SEA
>>149582217
It's the same for EU, only NEETs can play these minigame game due the time restrictions.
The only thing changing for EU dying condition is WBs loot debuff.
>tfw people fell for Fedimian server and got cucked
>>
>>149582770
Is there aparticular best weapon for chaplain? Valiant seems good but the low atk/mark kind of balances out the holy damage no? Does anything on a chap scale with matk?
>>
>>149581503
EU (CET) PvP time are:
10am
6pm
1am
4am

Personally i won't be able to PvP in Arena at all with these times :^)
Maybe i can get 10 minutes per day at 6pm session but probably i will just quit for good.
>>
>>149583210
Oops didn't mean to quote. Sorry.
>>
What's the fastest class to level up? Elememe?
>>
>>149581423
Fisherman
>>
>>149583367
Ranger Wugushi.
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>>149583457
Same
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>>149581503
They should be taking place every hour on the hour and last 30 mins. Why, IMC.
>>
>>149583457
I'm ok with this
>>
>>149583318
PvP is shit in this game anyway. It's just a variation of rock/paper/scissors, except that you can't easily pick what you play and people with 3k $ computers are at a huge advantage.
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Quick question
Until what lvl should I grind Alemeth until I card up to 224?
I'm currently lvl 214, and already can card up to 224.
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>>149582217
PvP would be dominated by NEETs anyways
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>>149581423
R10 Hidden Class for Wizard - Plane Walker
Requires Linker R1, Chrono R1, Sage R2, alongside with having a guild and at least X amount of Talt invested.
Does not have a single offensive skill, but allows the user to create a pocket dimension inside of the guild tower, allowing to set a guild dimension. Costs an absurd amount of pieces of dimension and Talt.
These dimensions are customizable and modular, and are also full of useful stuff that can be added including statues of goddess to provide benefits like teleport and whatnot.
Towers with dimensions inside are invulnerable, and can only be destroyed by invading it and destroy the heart of dimension, which will destroy the tower, causing the guild to lose all resources spent on it. Grants unique and strong spoils weekly for the guild and allows access to specific missions. When another guild manages to destroy the heart of dimension, they'll instead receive that week's spoil.
The Plane Walker can set several things including teleporting points, traps, walls and even empowered Homunculus/Pets to serve as support guards.
>>
>>149583862

Just card now, with the new quests + exploration you can probably quest and card all the way to Storage now.
>>
>>149583210
Well, since Chap aren't really meant to DPS
Any blunt is fine, Catacombs should be your final goal in any case
If you want to give more dmg to Aspergillium, Wizard Brac. Otherwise, just Galss Brac for the survival.
Max Peta is a must, unless you want ti repalce it for an animus.
And Grynas Plate set.
>>
>>149580601
>>149580296
>Not rolling a 280 Fletcher/Chrono/Necro first to fund your swordy alt.

477msavedup.png
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>>149583862
if you want to grind there. do until 228 or 230.
or wait to see how things change.
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>>149581825
>>
So how does the deleveling to 200 work in arena?
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>>149584339
I was thinking of also getting a Five Hammer for buffing purposes where I'd just slot my blessing/aspersion/safetzone etc gems and weapon swap before to buff then swap back since none of the buffs are weapon related.
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>>149584361
everyone already has fletchers and chronos. that's the point I'm making. all these faggots are abandoning their characters and rolling swordie alts and jumping on the swordie bandwagon now.

go to bees and check out all the futureproof and clover faggots on the poles at level 40. they're all swordies. I won't drop names, but you can go channel hopping for yourself and see all of them. a bunch of low-level new swordies.
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>>149584823
How does it feel to get cucked by metafag in the future again?
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>>149584823
rodelero confirmed for meta
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>>149584031
Why would you want to do storage though

Truffles:
>decent exp
>comfy semi-afk grinding
>easily accessible
>decent silver

Evac:
>really good exp
>mobs can be cc'd, don't do much damage and are fast making mobbing comfy
>bad silver

Storage
>really good exp
>fucking Nuos are immune to everything
>hit like trucks and rip your asshole up
>really bad silver
>they take ages to aggro on you
>if you die you lose silver
>and get ported out of the dungeon

>tfw fell for the storage meme
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>The issue of characters in a state where they cannot be move becoming able to move again after reading a book item has been fixed.

Let me guess. They still haven't fixed the Vedas Plateau quest that literally can't be completed unless you do exactly that.
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>>149585042
Lolipan's rodeleros were actually futureproof!
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>>149585404
Is there gonna be gay ass war shit at the meetup or will it be comfy?
I ain't going to watch faggots fight each other.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2idB9o1BtmQ

So, Sage will make Pyro the absolute best solo leveling class in the game?

Wiz3>Pyro3 can can solo 95% of the game already, not sure what filler class would be good for R7, but Sage in R8 multiplying even more Fireballs will mage the class path absolute the best for farming/leveling solo, and as long people don't knock your fireballs can be decent(not even close to the top memes, but should be alright) at bossing too.
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>>149585478
No, he uses some retarded PvP build that's trash outside of that niche. Everyone I've seen grind with him has complained about it.
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>>149585562
Shut up bitch you love watching girls flashing their panties in the midst of battle and getting KOed and then dominated and raped by a big strong Swordsman.
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>>149585562
There is a 99% chance desu will be fags and crash the meetup.
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>>149585562
yeah can we have a separate meet up in orsha in case pvp shitters ruin the fun?
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Why aren't there higher level Daino scrolls past Lv1 on the Market?
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>A guildmaster can now pass on the position to another Templar character at the Guild Hangout. After the position transfer, the position cannot be transferred back for 7 days.

SAVE US RANCE
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>>149585587
Might be decent, but has the fireball issue you mentioned. Even worst if you're trying to go to world bosses and the mafia slaps your stuff away
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>>149585408
FFS MAX! KSYMM

that quest can be done without that but its a pain in the ass.
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I was on team swordie before it was cool.

Honestly, this all seems pretty hyperbolic. Anyone trying to claim rodelero to be the new "meta" now is just being a silly chucklefuck imo.

Swordsman is marginally better now, but even then, your mileage will definitely vary and sometimes not in a good way (ex: Corsairs). The only really exciting thing is Rodelero/Murmillo, but I haven't read anything that makes me consider this shit to be a new "meta". Fletchers will still be kings of WB, Elememes will still be kings of general PvE AoE dps, and Swordsmen will still rank pretty low in pvp utility outside of some marginal usefulness in 1v1 duels. The meta remains exactly the same.
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Is there some build with both linker and thaum that will not make me want to kill myself while soloing, yet useful for support?
With thaum c2 or c3 preferably

pyro-link-thaum2-necro2? pyro2linkthaum2Warlock? Something?
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>>149585408
>he can't finish vedas quest without bugging
Fucking scrub, git gud.
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>Charge 5 bucks for hair dye
>It only applies to one character
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>>149586128
pyro is shit for necro, go wiz3+otherthanpyro
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so is cryokino kill?

This fucking nerfs to subzero shield and all that other stuff, feels like the only decent skill will be raise, and even that is now countereable.
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>>149586220
>buying cosmetics

jesus.
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>>149586220
complain / suggest something on forums
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>>149585562
PvP fags always ruin things, I hope they all die with cancer.
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>>149577376
are you sure you're doing it with the same character?

if you're using a different one you fucked up
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>>149579276
>mfw fuckton of mobs
>all for me
Thanks IMC
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>>149586360
Boohoo you can't kill an entire team with gravity pole now. Snow rolling and ice wall are still very strong control spells and raise is still a strong aoe cc that demands an immediate answer, now it's just not an autowin combo.
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>>149586376
>tfw long monday shift and wont make it to the meetup having comfy duels
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THE PATCH NOTES WERE TOO BIG TO FIT EVERYTHING
DON'T WORRY, WE'RE GETTING EVERYTHING
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>>149586220
I doubt anything can be worse than the hairstyle prices.
>>
So IMC just forgot to list the card system right? Or did i miss it in the disappointing patch notes?
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>>149585408
Anyone have that webm of superior korean game design?
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>>149586584
>tfw necro summons got buffed too
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>>149580273
welp, I guess they banned like 8k bots, hence the player drop
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>>149585913
cute revival when
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>>149586360
>freezes ranged and magic
>not broken
Fuck off retard.
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>>149586889
hiraku quit for good so never
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>>149586506
That did so much for this.
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>>149586937
He just needs to pass lead to someone competent
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>>149586994
okay go ask him then
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>>149586360
>Class is almost purely defensive
>Let's nerf the defense
>Oh, and buff the offense of its purely offensive counterpart class
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Just got my Steam cards from Best Buy. I'm ready for some Penguins, dood.
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is it possible to delete an account?

I picked a really good anime name on the wrong server by mistake, and I don't want to waste 150 fucking TP just to drop the name and reroll on the other server.
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>>149587118
Note to self: Anyone who puts any prinny-related bullshit for their penguin name should be blocked IMMEDIATELY
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>>149587145
Just use the same name, but put an uppercase x at the end. It's what the cool kids do
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>>149587240
I'm naming my penguin Penguin.
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>>149587118
>Spending real money post EA bundle

What are you doing Anon?
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>>149587145
Team names are individual servers only.

You can name yourself Meme on Fedi and also name yourself Meme on Klaipedia, except when someone else took the name before you.
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>>149586962
Heres hoping
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>>149587118
Best Buy has Steam cards? Best Buy has anything PC gaming related?
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>>149584823
>go to bees and check out all the futureproof and clover faggots on the poles at level 40. they're all swordies.
>AFK grinding instead of questing like true swordsmen
Plebeians, all of them. Knaves.
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>Pouncing
>- The skill perimeter has been shortened and its attack speed increased.
>- The Pouncing: Knockdown attribute has been added (with this attribute enabled, enemies affected by Pouncing will have an 8% per-attribute level chance of falling down).

>Helm Chopper
>- The cooldown time for this skill has been reduced and the chances of the enemy being affected with the Stun debuff have increased.

>Seism
>- The cooldown time for this skill has been decreased and the chances of the enemy being affected with the Stun debuff have increased.

>Cleave
>- The cooldown time for the Cleave skill has been reduced.
>- The use of this skill has been increased and you can now use it three times in a row.
>- Enemies attacked with this skill will be inflicted with an additional Cleave debuff for 5 seconds.

Never have this reaction image been any more relevant.
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>>149587092
>>149586891
>>149586591
It got outright gutted, I mean when something it's balanced, you reduce something but at least give it an extra effect, instead of lol we didn't realize it was absurdly overpowered for 6 fucking months sry, now have this useless version that can be removed easily by a fart.

Do you really want them to gut your r7 build because it's good? in a very specific content, and pretty much worthless in pve and most grinding groups, shit farming just good at pvp and now not even that?
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>>149587347
Wrong
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>>149587347
misinfo
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>>149587347
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>>149587347
But this is not true.
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>>149587461
Keep being cool Trap.
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>>149587347
He's half right. This is true for the korean servers, but for some reason it's different for iTOS.
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>>149587347
nope, try again misinfo agent, all family names are shared across all servers on steam, there's only one kirito in all of iToS, one fvckboi, one sissymcbutt, one jingaye
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>>149586061
What do you think of them doppel/fencer c3, my man?

I'm starting to think it won't be that great, but still nice regardless. We need more into, fuck
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What are you naming your penguin?
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>>149587803
Pingu.
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>>149587803
all my pets are named Lolipan
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>>149587803
Analrapist.
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>>149587803

Pedro.
/r/equesting recent kTOS pvp ranking chart. Some good anon, please, post the top 20 5x5 / 2x2 from the arenas please.
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>>149587803
Rishia
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We penguins now
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>>149587803
Dood
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>>149587803
Pang.
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>>149587803
Poon
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>>149588054
>naming your penguin "dead"
You're disgusting.
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>>149587515
It was broken because it can freeze anything that tries to do anything with you and they got no protection. Knowing IMC, it did take them months to balance it. The nerf is very reasonable and a direct counter to melee but not ranged or magic.

The triangle is still Mages>Swords>Archers>Mages
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>>149586516
Same, FP's autism keeps shitting up the general, I hope they all kill themselves within the next month.
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WHY IS EVERYONE SO OBSESSED WITH PENGUINS? PENGUINS SUCK.
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>>149588359
go back to sticking rodents up your ass fag
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>>149588359
memeanimal.

seriously, there are just memeanimals for pets. tinted panda, bad rat, ice bird. the next is probably a weasel or something.
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>>149587803
>giving IMC money
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>>149588359
t.hammy
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>>149588279
>Can easily be shut down
>no protection
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>>149588359
Nobody in america has ever seen South Africa for the place it really is.
By extension, they don't know that penguins are horrible horrible creatures that should be removed from this planet.
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>>149588359
To be honest I want the alpaca mount much more, but I'm afraid by the time that is released the game will be dead as fuck, also I'll look like a peasant in the meetups if I don't have died hair, expensive haircut, heart pupils, premium mount, the latest cash shop outfit for my class and some sort of elitist hat cosmetics to stand out from the generic poor players on the screenshots.
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>>149587803
Are you guys seriously going to buy a $20 penguin?
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>>149588284
Don't mess with FP m8 lolip will rek you with his sick 14 year old bants
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>>149587764
One of my characters is perfectly set up for Fencer C3, and I'll likely be doing that on her. As for what I think about it, I'd really want to see things spelled out on paper more directly. As of right now, I'm not terribly excited by it tbqh. But who knows, that can change.

The thing I'm most worried about is my Corsair (Hop2Cor2). I've left him at R6 for months now waiting to see what to do with him. I thought going Dragoon at R7 was a no-brainer, but I still wanted to see what R8 would be like before I made the jump. Now with Dragoon C2 looking pretty disappointing, I've come close to deciding to just let him be a full farming character and take Corsair C3 at R7.

But who knows what the fuck I'm going to do for R8 on that character. Murmillo's entire thing is shields, so that's not an option. And Lancer is a mounted class, which Corsair doesn't jive with. This has all pretty much left me with the ridiculous position of having to entertain the idea of taking Doppel C1 at R8, mainly for DPE (because again, farming character) and I guess Deeds and Cyclone have their uses too. Taking a R6 class at R8 makes me cringe though. And yet I can't see any better options at this point.
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What did I do to deserve this?

Also, someone stop this fucking Disconnect every 10 minutes, it's getting annoying already, holy shit.
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>>149588731
What is the problem there?
>>
Penguins sound like an old car's ignition in the winter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Haxy5PvCuk
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>>149588518
Literally only one class can cancel subzero shield. Quit whining. And don't act like you're the only one getting fucked by Bloodletting and prophecy.
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>>149588685
>Not posting the picture

Hi, numalelight.
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>>149588710
>everyone dissing dragoon C2
Literally double damage for all swords, themselves included.
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>>149588487
>he didn't get free TP from IMC
My penguin is free buddy :^)
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>>149588941
Not him just think it's sad that loli's best retort was literally dissing someone for how they look when he's probably a fat neckbeard himself.
It made him look really juvenile but hey I forget the demographic for 4chan is actually 15 year olds.
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>>149588941
Don't mess with his bowl cut, he gets mad.
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>>149588975
>multiple swordsman parties
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>>149588919
>Whines about a defensive class being able to shut others down while still having hard counters that are popular as fuck
>"Quit whining"

What world do you live in?
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>>149588941
He merely placed his wig at a wrong orientation, there is nothing wrong with his haircut per se
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>>149589197
A world with lots of (You)s.
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>>149581423

considering the classes are all based on actual history/mythologies

Gunslinger
Geomancer
Bard

and where is my fucking centurion
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>>149587803
Penpen. because tos reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmnCEYtslHc
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>tfw even with all the swordie buffs, nobody will want them for ET
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>>149589173
Hackapell has melee skills too.
>>
What are Sage Wall recipe/crafted going for on Klai?
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>>149589397
Doppels are going to replace Fletcucks, just you wait.
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>>149581208
reminds me of this https://youtu.be/ybKp_Zck6-g
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>>149589512
He was talking about ET

Doppels will still be useless there because AOE RATIO hehehehe
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>>149588685
>>149588941
>>149589097
>lolicuck dissing someone with an actual gf with some kiddy bantz
fat mexicunt neckbeard is jelly kek
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>>149589367
But anon, penpen means spanking.
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>>149589397
>tfw people still spread misinfo
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>>149589704
>implying penpen doesn't penpen misato when kaji isn't around
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2:1 str:dex is good for swordsman(Barb3>Doppel2)? Or should I just go full str?
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>>149589397
ITS NOT FAIR REEEEEEEEEE
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Rolled an alt. 20 min queue for lvl 50 dungeon.
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>>149586506
The only important thing worth complaining about is the 8 hour world boss cube debuff and fixing ET floor 7.
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I went slut hunting and landed a biggun.
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>>149589397
>nobody will want them for ET

or world bosses. so pretty much nothing has changed.

they've always been wanted in grind groups for the XP bonus and will continue to be wanted. at least now they might help contribute a bit more instead of just pressing their swashbuckling button.

but again, nothing has changed.
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>>149589623
base - 3
https://tos.neet.tv/items/124101 - 5
https://tos.neet.tv/items/503101 - 2
https://tos.neet.tv/items/532110 - 1
https://tos.neet.tv/items/603101 - 2
https://tos.neet.tv/skills/20708 - 5
https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/205005

More than enough.
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>>149590261
Leave Murbish alone, boy. She may be a murderer, but she aint no slut.
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>>149590071
if you don't have any plans of going pvp, 5:1 str con is good
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>>149590274
ITS NOT FAIR
ITS NOT FAIR
ITS NOT FAIIIIIRRRRREIJFEHEFHIUFVEHIBVGRFNYHUBRG
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>>149590274
>implying swordies aren't the ones creating the ET/WB parties

That's how we get into that kind of content...
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>>149590490
Alright, 0 pvp interest.

Wouldn't I miss a bunch of attacks without dex or it won't matter later on?
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>>149590456
*bang bang*
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>>149589097


>It made him look really juvenile

Lolipantsu, the grown man who roleplays as an "onee-san" without a trace of irony (and yet at the same time tries to lead some wannabe tryhard pvp guild while spreading his asshole for his rivals), saying things that make him look bad, or embarrass both himself AND his guildies ("if they're cucks they must be happy cucks")?

How surprising, this is totally new and not something we're used to seeing at all. :^)
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Wizard build that'll make my somewhat-PvP Guild (not FP) love me?
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>>149590710
Keep your gloves updated, later you get gems for your gloves making hitrate a non-issue in PVE
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>>149590829
CryoSorc
CryoRuneLock
CryoKino
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What do we have here? Some sort of guinea pig? Not in my town.
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>>149590827
>>149590697

>deleting your post to add a :^)

Hello dvine

>>149590829
Clover? Cryo3Chrono3

I'll even give free powerleveling when I have time
>>
kys dvine
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>>149590829
one rank in each class

variety is what makes you strong in pvp

I recommend wiz/pyro/linker/thaumaturge/sorceress/necro/featherfoot
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>>149589397
hey at least they're not paladins, my class gets replaced by a fucking scroll

can you put a swordsman inside a scrolls? maybe the game would be much better if squire or templar could craft a swordsman summoning scroll, you summon a tiny version of your desired build and they go around smashing things and being useless like a real swordsman
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>>149574985
>>149574851
why does mia always post about himself?
>>
hehehe love having to restart the client after every mission run hehehehehehehehehe
>>
I've been leveling a full-support cleric for a while now and need to make a class that does damage.

Decent Doppel builds?
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>>149591316
fuck off mia stop replying to yourself no one gives a shit
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>>149591430
>Damage
>Swordsman

Nice kekels here.
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>>149591032

I misquoted actually, I've never been in FP

The bee queen is really autistic about badmouthing lolipan and seems to care waaay more than is probably healthy, but at the same time i get why they snapped
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>>149591264
>swashbuckling scroll

oh my fucking god, please do this somehow IMC I'm sick and fucking tired of carrying these scrubs who sit there and do nothing besides taunt.
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>>149591149
You w-wha...?
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>>149591430
A (You)
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>>149591574
aukuras scrolls kinda does that already, but you would need the whole group to rotate the scrolls
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>>149591537
>>149591316
>>149574851
>>149574392
But all of these are Moonie_
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>>149591574
Just wait for Mimic hehehehe
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>>149591316
It's to make gullible anons believe she's popular and desired, which can actually make people like her without any good reason.

Like me

>>149591570
Oh I didn't noticed the edited quote, nevermind then.
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>>149591316
I did not.
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>>149591904
sorry mia, but you're busted. it's blatant and in every thread
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>JRPG
>Nudity
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i will literally suck a dick for an arde dagger drop at this point
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>>149591759
Nice try mia, we all know moonie quit for legion.
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>>149591264
Fellow Paladin here. Stay strong man, our time will come one day.

One day.
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>>149587803
Doot.
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>>149591959
Nah, i do not.
>>149592030
But shes online now. I even saw her killing monsters.
>>
>>149592030

Oh. I think I saw a person with that name in Demon Prison 2.
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>>149592030
Nice try moonie, we all know mia quit months ago.
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>>149592039
imc doesn't care, for them paladin is a pardoner 3 class.

thats the fucking problem of this game, imc sees one class being played one way and says "yep thats fine" and nukes every other possible build
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Is Valia worth getting at all or should I just wait til 170 and buy a decent hammer for like 50k? Not sure why Valia is so expensive.
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>>149592191
This is the only truth.
Get over it fangirls.
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>>149592646
MIAAAAAA
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>it takes 20 hours for free TP to refill
S-Should I buy the Penguin first or my cute costume...?
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>>149592883
Buy the penguin.
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To the cryokino haters, you don't get it, by picking those two full classes you gave up on a lot of things.

You don't have quick cast surecast or magic missile, you don't have links, you don't have OP summons or afk summons, or long range butt rape nukes, you don't get warlock shit, you don't have fucking transpose, you don't have pass/haste/stop etc.

You have subzero shield, gravity pole and raise, the tree is helpful but people can get out of it easily with enough speed buffs, snowrolling is suicide with fucking dark theurge and who knows what else, now gravity pole is a joke, subzero is not even HALF as good as before, you don't have any real damaging ability besides PP which again without surecast is almost useless, I feel like icewall is the only thing that doesn't have a counter now in that build.

Again I agree with some balancing being needed, but the two classes got the worst hit out of all the wizard archetype, and considering the investment it took it's in an unredeemable state, cryo3 is still fine on support builds, kino 3 is playable but underwhelming, but cryokino is kill you don't have enough tools to compensate for your drawbacks anymore, even featherfoot seems to be getting love while cryokino only got a big black dick up the asshole.
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>Keep getting ejected.

Just me I guess? Klaipeda.
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>tfw everyone in the guild is going to have a penguin and you won't
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>>149593103
hehehehehe
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>>149593103

go fuck yourself
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>it's another sit alone at the meet up episode
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>>149593103
you're fucking retarded
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>>149593223
HAHAHAHA POINT AND LAUGH
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Full CON
and the skills?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21333888
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>>149589097
>Not him just think it's sad that loli's best retort was literally dissing someone

It wasn't a retort, though.
You'd know this if you read the thread or didn't live in your own little world, numalelight.
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>>149593456
Hey cuti underaged girl, want some steamy hot ERP?
just pm me in discord @Lolipa
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>>149593456
Meet up is early this time, maybe Mia will sit next to you! You can even confess and propose to her!
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new player here, just about to get started with the game. i decided to play an ice mage, probably mostly going to be solo'ing casually. heres the build i came up with, im just wonderin if its total garbage or if its at all OK. i dunno much about how good the skills are so i read about them and took my best guess

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111333h.11283a4951667585.1a2a4d5785.152555
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>>149586376
what is it about?
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>>149589097
I'm not sure whats more pathetic,
lolicuck actively posting on the official forums or you coming here to cry about getting your hairstyle and whack babyface insulted.
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>full con
>on sorcs
FUCKING KYSELF
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>>149589643
>actual gf
>five to eight hours per day playing an mmo

Pick one.
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>>149586376
Meet up is in 8 hours, are you high?
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>>149593543
>>149593742
Looks like the futurecuck whiteknights have arrived
Or it's just loli same fagging
Probably that.
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>>149593664
One point in energy bolt is useless damage wise, but I guess it can be used in pvp to pushback melee. Not that you need with your freezes anyway

snow rolling is great for pve, not sure about pvp.

You can reset your skills with TP money, but you can't change your class.
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>>149593782
you replying to someone?
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>>149593884
Maint is at 10PM EST

which is 7PM PST

which means meet up is ay 6PM PST

which is now 5 hours from now
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Best party
>PvP ChaplainPD solo meleeing ET boss
Fair and balanced class
forgot pic
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>>149593884
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>>149593982
probably both famtachi, can't imagine staying in a guild as a cuck like that
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>>149594162
>>149594123
Oh I see, sorry then, thought it was like always
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Are Crimson contact lessons the 'red' eyes or are there a more true red eye color in kToS?
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>>149593532
Anyone?
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Does anyone have a rough idea how much experience they're adding with all those new quests in the 5 high level areas? Like is it enough to pop from 270-275 or 240-260 or something along those lines
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>>149593456
I'll sit next to you! Where do you want to meet up?
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>>149593103
It can't be helped. Crymancers have inexplicably become the boogeyman of forumfags.
The idea of nuking their bread and butter and proceeding to NOT give the class anything in exchange to make up for it is some kind of foreign concept to them.
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>>149594149
>FF
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>>149581503
This is for Team Battle, not Guild Battle. I sure the fuck hope they don't overlap.
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>>149594580
probably 135 or few more L11s
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>tfw erp'd with Mia and she's STACKED
No wonder she's being called 'The three-legged Princess"
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>>149594149
post full build?
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>>149593742
lolipan is a fake faggot. he's a brown noser who licked atom's asshole with false praise because atom has a higher social status than him. he sees kirito is disliked by the people in his guild leader discord who he kisses up to so he thinks it's okay for him to break his facade with childish insults. lolipan you're such a scumbag even outside being a leech.

the ultimate irony is futureproof was suppose to be the anti-discord guild but lolipan in a discord brown nosing other people and embarrassing himself as badly as possible at every chance. if you're against discord and jinsae then in this world there's no excuse for following lolipan. anti-discord was just bullshit used to get people into shitty futureproof and dislike jinsae. probably lolipan posting himself the entire time.
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>>149594930
t. missinfo
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>>149594930
m-mia...
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Are any swordie builds now more viable with these changes atleast? I understand no ET or World bosses, but in the future, would I be wasting my time completely by making a new swordie?

I think Fencer is cute and I want to make one.
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does the scavenge hunt always make you teleport from klaipeda to orsha and from orsha to klaipeda? or I'm just the unlickest fag in the world

I been doing the scavenge hunt in two accounts and every time it sends me to the opposite side.
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>>149594930
No.
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>>149594963
shut up dvine
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>>149595261
if you liked swordsman, you would have already made one.

so fuck off, and stop trying to bandwagon.
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Why is everyone so hyped for a penguin?
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>>149595275
Nope
Also, you lose like what?
800 silver?
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>>149595375
>implying he's wrong

You don't need to reply if you're in Lolicucks circlejerk orbiter crew btw

Your opinion is worth less than dirt, since you're a bottomfeeding insect
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>>149595509
he mad
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>>149595450
All classes can mount it can't they? That's pretty big.
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>>149594650
>Inexplicably

You guys are delusional, psychocryos were singlehandedly ruining pvp encounters with the gravity pole+raise spam piercing all CC defenses and sub zero shield punishing any form of retaliation. Magnetic force and snowrolling still pierce defenses as well, but now you actually have to put yourself at risk to CC an entire team for 10+ seconds.

I've got no sympathy for anybody that rolled a class combo based around CCing groups of people through all defenses from long range until they die.
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>>149595723
Yes.
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>>149595630
He's mad about his incoming ban.
Which is ridiculous, given how long momohime's took.
The faggot will get sick of this game by the time it happens.
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>>149595496
right now yeah kinda, but with tomorrow's patch I'm gonna spend a bunch more teleporting without the free quest teleports
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>>149595450
It's cute and everyone can use it.
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>>149594930
That one was definitely moonie
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>>149595771
So you really REALLY hate bowfags, huh?
>>
Which one is better?
this
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1134489f.23334554.15243541.1a293a71.152575.153555.152545
or
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1134777f.23334551.11213541.152535.112f3f5a.15253141
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>>149594006
alright thanks. if that 1 point in energy bolt is useless, what spell do i use to kill early game stuff?
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>>149595898
What?! We will lose free teleports?!!
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>>149595771
>kino has too much unblockable CC
>let's nerf cryos
welp
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>>149595630
>>149595509
>>149595893
>>149595375
>>149594963
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>>149594667
Cleric2Diev3Druid2 - statues , Sterea mostly for 3F, Carnivory for boss floor
CryoChrono - holding hands and other Cryo Chrono things
Wiz3Ele3Lock - Elememe
Wiz3Link2Necro1FF - joint penalty, decay meme, Hogma Shaman snipe
Cleric2Priest3ChaplainPD - priests buffs, revive/ressurection,object like 3F Panto Totem nuker.
The FF isn't useless
>>149594960
I dunno exactly how the points are used in that build but he use maxed revive for sure
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>>149595771
but you don't get it man, this is like a complete neutering all across the board, with NOTHING in exchange

which other build got this anihilated in a single patch?

It's a huge investment to take both classes, because they're fucking tier 1 and tier 2, non of your skills scale like ranks 6 and 7 in terms of damage, you don't have any multihit abuse so your damage is crap.

It was also a niche build for pvp, and only that, it's useless outside of that, no one would ever care about a cryokino in ET or grinding groups, it's solo capability is extremely lackluster.

Again as I said yes maybe having one of the two remains decent or viable, but if you had both classes they both got mauled more than anyone else by this patch, I repeat with absolutely nothing positive for them.
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>mfw dvine was corrupted for atom's sama dick

good, now who is next ?

don't be shy anon fall for the atom's sama dick too serve him it's fun.
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>>149596438
Post potential dvine x lolipa x atom scenarios
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>>149594580
Should be enough to get 280 from 260 or right after Evac grind
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>>149596438
>>149596438
By being in FP you already suck off Atom cock by default.
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>>149596438
>>149596553

when bad memes refuse to die
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>>149596668
Nope
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>>149596745
Atom in
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tosgman, tosgman, can't you see
all traitors and dvine should hang on a tree
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>>149596745


t.dvine
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>>149596104
>Doppel with a bunch of classes that don't use 2h

>>149596230
They nerfed kino too.
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>>149596438
Who cares, dvine is a retard, he'll feel at home in atoms guild.
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>>149596104
guys?
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>>149596959
no one cares we (FP) are busy shitting up the thread, leave us alone.
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is it too dreamy a dream to imagine these threads being flooded with screenshots of confirmed atom kills when gbl goes live

do you think he'll come to cry again
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>>149596428
They don't deserve anything positive for PvP, it was an overpowered build that's getting nerfed heavily and Raise is still keeping it's power intact. Go back to mobas with your "compensatory buff" bullshit, Cryo and psycho will both have a niche in PvP as area control classes they just won't be spammed endlessly.

Do you honestly think Valhalla just sat on hills spamming ice wall in wars against Futureproof just because "well we just happen to have lots of cryo psychos hahaha". No it was just a broken cheese strategy that's rightfully being gutted.
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>>149596438
>serving anybody ever
i was asked to join valhalla before futureproof. i was asked to leave futureproof constantly. i was going to asked to leave and join valhalla even if i didn't leave. futurproof didn't make anything i have happen if i build an empire of bees then why do you think i serve anybody? i'm never a follower or lackey. you can join my friend circle not the reverse.
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>>149596438
Hopefully the rest of you Futureshitters join soon.
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>>149597184
>research about classes in cute anime game
>roll a pvp build because it looks fun and strong
>game has no pvp
>after eons of no content and playing a gimped build, pvp patch is released
>your snowflake pvp build is now useless, because kek devs didn't realize it was OP until the second pvp is actually released.

good game, fucking sportscars.
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>>149596438
dvine is the edgy ex-gf who goes suck your rival's dick just to (poorly attempt to) spite you, what else did you expect? he knows no one even cares anymore, but keeps sperging at anything remotely related to lp to whore for attention
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>>149596438
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>>149597412
>he didn't play kTOS
Well, there's your problem.
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>>149597259
No one cares, buzz off.
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>>149594149
When you will replace the FF?
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>>149597259
>>149597435
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How are the other guild's preparation for Guild/Team Arena?
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>>149597412
>Roll an overpowered pvp build because you're a tier whore
>After months of the bullshit build running rampant with no countermeasures Devs nerf it for the health of the game
>They leave one of the most threatening skills, Raise, intact but with a counter while also buffing Swap to encourage using a risky but very powerful ability
>Tier whores whine that the build is "useless" because they can't effortlessly kill teams with ice wall pressure+gravity pole and zero int builds
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>>149597731
>dvine after atom'D
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>>149593103
I agree with this.

The subzero shield nerf alone already fuck cryo kino up. Just fought a cryo kino and it's much less scary as compared to before.
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>>149597435
>ex-gf
>i told lolipan weeks ago i'm not even his friend to his cuck face.
get over yourself retard. i wasn't ever a hang-on for you or your guild. you don't have the skills or ability to actually rank higher than me for this imaginary rp shit.
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>>149597826
I have to admit Comfy looks like the most Comfy /tosg/ guild by far. They also have drawfags to make art, Luafags to make addons and a pretty chill leader.

Too bad they play in a shit server.
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>>149597259

OUT
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I don't get why, after the CC nerf, they still managed to nerf Gravity pole's damage.
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>>149598083
>the only 2 server that's not dead
>shit server
???
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Is C2 Cleric > C3 Dievdirbys > C1 Druid > C1 Plaguedoctor viable as a damage/support?
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>>149597826
Fuck, that image killed me.
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>>149598173
Well it's in fucking Asia. Terrible ping.
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>>149597826
>>149598216
of course it's a shit copy
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>>149598409
Nothing can match the original, but it was a good attempt.
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>>149598181
Yeah one of FPs stronger members runs that build.
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>>149598003
>can't get over the unhealthy obsession with lp
>tells others to get over it
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>>149598307
To be fair I'm getting 20 ms ping to the server.
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All these patch
skill fixes
swordman buffs
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>>149598083

>also have IRL meeting
>and a real girl or trap

How can a guild be this stacked
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>>149599147
Can't wait for Sadhu buffs!
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Help !
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>tfw janitor spy
>tfw checked IPs of the thread because I was bored
>theres 3 giga autist samefags that have posted over 50 times each, in this thread alone, and mostly about irrelevant drama or other shitposting


Personally I would recommend not association with any of the '4chan guild's' in here
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>>149598634
>obsession
>from the anti-discord/anti-jinsae and lolipan/lolipan followers
lets have a good laugh. i posted less about lolicuck than lolicuck did obsessing over kirito and kirito never had anything to do with a loser like lolicuck.
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>>149599334
You don't need to be a jannie to know that
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>>149599334
We already know
But people still gives fucks about Loli and Divine
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>>149599334
Present some evidence,
>>
Who is the most nihilistic guild here?
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>>149599334
>>149599704
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>>149599860
Clover or FOE
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>>149587506
*Never has
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>>149599704
>>149599891
>>149599334
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from "still good my dude" to "kysmm", how bad are dievs in pvp post-nerf?
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>>149600148
>owls get destroyed in 5 hits

I dunno man, I need 2 magic missiles to wipe out their whole damage kit
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Anything I should know before rolling this Full CON build?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21333888.1521354153.152a3a5a7585.1f2135485a6175
Like any kToS change that would mess it up or something like that?
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Is Wizard > Pyromancer2 > Thaumathurge3 > Warlock viable? The change to swell brain is tempting me.
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>>149600148
Diev Oracle PD is still the easiest way to get into korea's TBL first page.
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>>149600148
They are too OP without those nerf.

Try fighting 2 or 3 diev 3 in open field war.
>>
going elememe. 64/8 right now.

do i need to keep cafrisun? or should i switch over to other armor?

also using a two handed staff, rod and shield was weaker
>>
how long does prep time last for battle league?
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>>149600451
Wiz 3 Thau 3 Warlock is MUCH better.

Pyro 2 offers nothing aside from that slight solo ability in the first 200 levels.
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>>149600451
>Warlock
If you plan on going Warlock 2 you should have Wiz3.
If you plan on going something else, Warlock feels like an odd filler.
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>>149600451
>wants to do damage
>doesn't take wiz3

no

>>149600421
You actually want to max Icewall, Pike is multihit sometimes so its better to put points in it over bolt, which can just be left at 1 since you'll be using autoattacks
Looks good otherwise
Klaipeida?
What guild?
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>>149596104
Do you enjoy mounting? Pick first one. If not pick second, but be warned that outside PvP corsair1 isn't that great
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>>149600543
cafri when solo until 14x+ or higher
plate in dungeons/missions

staff is good until you get Rod+Arde dagger
>>
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111444f.19233f51677585.1f2a5a6575.15253451
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21117666.1b233f51657585.11243545.1f21316f8595a3
Any suggestions on how to fix these?
Still having trouble deciding.
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>>149600717
Thanks
Klai
See lover
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>>149600815
seriously? till 140s? doesn't stuff hit hard enough to one shot me at that point if i'm just using cafrisun?

>until i get arde dagger
so...forever? that shit is like 10m on the market.
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>>149600148
Considering Diev3 was the build i planned to use for guild battle event.
Pretty bad.
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>>149601115
>doesn't stuff hit hard enough to one shot me at that point if i'm just using cafrisun?
Get some con or don't get hit.

>10m Arde
What fucking server are you on where it's that fucking expensive?
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>>149601115
maybe until 100 or so. mobs dont hit hard at low lvls

can try to farm a dagger in 90dung too
>10m
kek
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>>149601092
Sounds good, I'll probably talk to you tomorrow in the guild

Won't be home before maint today unfortunately
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>>149599860
Only unmade guilds can be nihilistic
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>>149601004
Hey again anon, I was the guy working with you yesterday that referred you to Karga for the sorc side. I won't touch sorc any further since Karga already gave you the rundown on that class and they're the only Sorc3 I know of.

Magnetic Force is a one point wonder. I carry it on my necromancer to group targets up for flesh cannon but it doesn't scale at all. The jury's out on teleportation - I believe it can be useful as an oh shit button in PVP but have not really had any successful use of it yet because of the FPS drops in GVG. There are other people who think it's absolutely great, and I may just be using it all wrong (and haven't tested THAT much anyway.) It's definitely worth experimenting with but luckily skill reset potions are pretty cheap. I've left teleport at 0 for the build, for now.

Swap however is great and is only getting better - tonight's patch is giving it an attribute to root the target you swapped. I've adjusted Kino according to these notes.

I don't like lv 3 Lethergy. I know why you took it - for that attribute - but I honestly don't see you ever actually using it and it'll cost some money to max. I've lowered it to one, but if you're a debuff loving guy who will make sure it goes into your rotation, then by all means, bump it back up.

I put those points into Surespell instead. Psychokino is more reliant on this skill than any other I can think of between Psychic Pressure and Gravity Pole. Yes, it only increases duration, but this is more important than you think - if your duration runs out while channeling one of those skills and you get hit, you'll lose your channel.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111444f.19213f51697585.1f2a39516575.15253451
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>>149601380
Great
I'll be waiting then
>>
How much is the penguin going to cost?
>>
ARDE DAGGER
NEVER DROP
AHAHAHAHH
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>>149601692
>that referred you to Karga for the sorc side
>they're the only Sorc3 I know of
>Magnetic Force is a one point wonder
>I carry it on my necromancer to group targets up for flesh cannon
>I don't like lv 3 Lethergy
Shut the fuck up, expert.
>>
I hope Archer rank 8 has an AA class
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>>149602510
Falconer 3
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>>149602390
I'd be happy to hear your conflicting opinions, there's always more to learn.

I'm sorry I don't know other Sorc 3s.

Magnetic Force hits once, the damage is low and there are way better skills to put the points into in Kino, the cooldown and size don't scale with levels and neither does the AoE attack ratio. Why do you feel it should be leveled?

I'm not going to touch on the flesh cannon part because there's only 1 other person I know of that runs this build (I based my build on his) and he uses it for the same reason.

Level 3 Lethargy, like I said, isn't absolutely horrible... But 56 attack and matk don't mean much lategame. That's less than 4% of my total matk and I'm a CON build. It takes time to cast and aim, and he's got plenty of other skills he needs to cast to worry about. I personally don't use Lethargy for anything but buffing Monks and Rodeleros.
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>>149601692
>Magnetic Force is a one point wonder
That seems weird, because the base damage looks pretty solid.
And yeah, I like using lethergy because even 4% could be useful at times. Especially for the leveling process, I could drop points from EB instead.

>>149602390
Why do people feel the need to do this? Post contrary words about something and don't even give actual feedback on it?
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Does anyone want to purchase an Audra recipe or a Petamion? PM Cattly if interested
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>>149603619
When people do that they just want the person to give more information to "defend their side." It's just someone asking for more info but thinking they'll get called a faggot and to do their own research if they asked normally.

He's new. If he knew who was posting he wouldn't have done it that way, the person he replied to would have told him everything he knows if he asked.
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>>149603619
Typically skills that don't have a scaling % modifier and only hit once don't really do any damage. Especially for builds like ours, if I remember you were going to go 1:1, you won't get much out of it. The other kino skills are really good, and that's coming from someone who doesn't love teleport (again, there's two kinds of kinos, and there's plenty of them on the loves teleport side) so you really can't spare the points for a tiny bump in one hit of damage once per 25 or 31 seconds.
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This general misses Liege Lel OUCH
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>>149603619
If you're pvp focused then faster EB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lethargy

And Wiz3Kino3WL are always pvp focused

The same applies to magnetic force, sure its good to have it do more damage but you're better off getting some levels in swap and teleport instead


Also Telekinesis shouldnt be leveled that high,
you don't use it for so long ever

Even at lvl 5 I end up having to cancel it 50% of the time
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>>149603876
japan think they slick... she dabbin xD
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>>149598541

What weapon would I be aiming to get?
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>>149604034
I actually like Telekinesis a lot, but I too only have it at level 5. That said, it's a really, really strong ability in the 2v2 arena, and since that is coming so soon, I didn't want to drop his score on it. I agree though, the few times I use it right now I often early cancel it with ctrl+click.

I suspect I'll respec and dump way more points into it when Necro C3 comes out, just to hold someone for as long as possible while shoggoth, skeletons and skeleton archers wail on them.
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>>149604095
>xD
You too
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>>149599302
That's pretty much me.
I hate it.
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>>149603941
That sounds off to me.

>>149603957
True I suppose. I figured a bit more damage could make a difference in those situations though, but I'm probably thinking too much in terms of PvE.

>>149604034
Yeah, both builds are pvp focused.
I figured the higher telekinesis would be good for disabling a target longer and for others to deal with or even for 1v1s.
Any suggestions for adjusting the kino side?
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>>149603876
>Peta
I'll give you 5 talt and a corpse hand. You won't find a better offer.
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If you are not diev 3 you should probably kill yourself.
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>>149564681
>not at really hgih speeds
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>>149604794
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>tfw level 210 and still don't know if when people say mission they really mean dungeon or quest
>still dont know if i can delete all these level1 gems i have stored in my bank
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>>149604503

This is how I run my kino3

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111444.1a213f4151677585.1f25344a516575

Only swap and teleport points are interchangable

Personally I don't think I'll have a situation where more than 4 or 5 people are clumped together to swap them into a shackle

Teleport can get you out of a lot of sticky situations
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>>149596438
>dvine & loli take sides and run their tongues up and down atom's unquestionably majestic cock
>They eye each other, knowing that one of them is going to move in to have their throat dominated as he releases his bountiful load down their throat
>The thought of the other getting blessed like this causes both of them to lick more furiously, anger flaring in their eyes
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>>149605047
>Deleting gems
Uhhm
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>>149605047
Feed your gems you want to level with other useless gems. Don't use them all either! Save some for when you need to level another gem.
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>>149605297
not falling for that roastie
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>nerf Warlock Dark Theurge so you don't get one-shot with FULL CON builds
>you still get one-shot if you don't have a FULL CON buiuld
>Warlock2 comes out
>Dark Theurge 10
>You will get oneshot again even with FULL CON builds

Very epic

I seriously hope they'll add another 60 or so levels so I can at least survive that shit when statting full con
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>swordsman bots farming stone orcas on every channel
What the fuck mang how am I supposed to do this quest
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>>149605782
report them
hehehehehehe
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>>149605623
>i go on tos for pvp

wipe this meme off the face of earth
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>go to do black hair achievement
>get hanaming gem in 3 kills
Fuck yeah
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>>149606028
>PVE cucks just get another 40 levels of ET slapped on it
>meanwhile the only changes happening to the game mostly revolve around pvp

Back to your shed dog
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>>149605623
I really don't understand how balance can be so fucked devs decide to nerf something by 50%, that's basically admiting they had no idea what they were doing and probably never tested that shit.

Oh yeah remember that thing your class did you liked so much? well now it's half as effective, because you know it was too good, hope you still enjoy the game after picking a class that got half of it's potential damage removed in one single patch.

Seriousl what other mmo ever does something as fucking stupid as that? that's blatant fotm pandering and it's going bite them in the nuts when people quit because their class became crap overnight.
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Anyone queuing for level 50 dungeon? I'm trying to level up my Diev.
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>>149606284
Shut the fuck up you no skill trash

>hurrrrr imma run at them with dark theurge and dispeller on and enjoy my free win
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>>149606284
The problem is that IMC made the game with PVE in mind. Ragnarok Online did this same thing.

There are massive sweeping changes in the "important" PVP in RO. Skills across the board do reduced damage, ranged skills do further reduced damage, casts can't be interrupted, and so on and so forth. It's really tough to design a game with a PVE mindset and turn it into effective and fun PVP, and it took RO literally years to pull it off.
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cafrisun + key theifs severely nerfed for farming potential

the bots win again boys
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>>149605080
Yeah, I like this a bit better.
I just need to decide between the two builds still. I know both are needed, but I know absolutely nothing about sorc to really decide.
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>>149606284
Dude.

IMC doesn't play the game, they never did. They hate ToS and haven't played the game since the first year of development. This is fucking obvious, classes riddled with gameplay bugs and absolutely infuriating mechanics (fireball for instance) because devs never playtested anything. Right now they are just fucking throwing things at the wall and hoping something sticks. It's why in one week you get them giving a class +50% damage and the other reducing it to +20% damage.
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turns out lolipan is a huge nintendork and would waste all his life saving in nintendo stock, the guild vault is going to be managed very poorly...
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Got the thing I wanted, think I'll give my crush a kiss
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>>149607067
what
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>>149607151
What was it cutie?
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>>149607067
Okay!
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>>149607067
>guild vault
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>>149607067
>Guild Vault
Play the game
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>>149607067

>this entire post
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tell me why diev3/oracle2/pd isnt god mode
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Diev3OraclePD IS godmode
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>>149607935
Because it's not
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>>149602906
>>149601692
>>149604295
>>149604034
>you will never have someone willing to autistically break down every skill of every class youre interested in
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>>149607935
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>>149608093
If it's Wizard I can do it

I've pretty much played every build and I'm still at work ready to procrastinate
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Desu is gonna come crashing Kateen Forest channels aren't they?
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>>149607935
Because diev3/oracle/pd2 is god mode

>tfw 4chan forces me to see a ban from 2014 for spamming /tv/
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>>149608093
You play Cleric?
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Swordsman, go full STR or full DEX?
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Is maint the regular time? Wouldn't be due to how big this patch is right?
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>>149608671
Tip for all Swordsmen and Archers: If you have any intention of doing any sort of PvP or GvG mode, never go STR.

Reason: People who went DEX will be totally out of your reach. You'll never hit them. Because IMC is stupid, they linked both Evasion and Accuracy to the same stat, meaning that you either get it and stay relevant, or or skip on it and forget about hitting people.

>>149608810
Starts at 10PM instead of 1AM.
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>>149605106
>Everytime Atom posts the word "cuck," his manhood grows to an even more impressive size
>At this point, he can never know the loving touch of a woman, for it can only strike the feelings of fear and envy in the hearts of people
>Therefore, the path of domination is the only means of sexual gratification
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>>149608524

What does c1 oracle bring to the table? Why not druid?
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>>149608901
>You'll never hit them.

A full dex archer has 60% chances of dodging a swordsman with 0 added dex, what are you talking about?
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Can we please have the meet up elsewhere today
I'd rather not have a repeat of valhalla's crashing
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>>149609041
Counter-fucking-spell and virtually permanent immunity to lv1 debuffs.
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>>149609147

Oh, this is for PVP yes?
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>>149608901
>You'll never hit them
Prioritize upgrading gloves.
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>>149608901
if you go full DEX you'll get blocked by everything

no penetration

are you a softcore fag?
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>>149609041
Oracle and Druid fulfill different functions

Druid is more of an offensive option while oracle brings more defensive options both are great

I love oracle for this build more though
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>>149609201
Yes, for PvE you get to troll people by changing their mobs into ET ones.
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>>149609125
I'd like them to come and get humiliated.
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>>149609236
>implying the same doesn't apply to boots
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>>149609236
This.
>>149609474
A high grade glove only covers up for the enemy's boots.
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>>149609330
>>149609332

What weapon di you aim for as a diev?
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>>149610189
cuckacombs cuck
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>>149610337
Also known as
'Mia's third leg'
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>>149610431
Anon please. That is Moonie_
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>>149610431
>people trying really hard to push the horsecock futa Mia meme
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>>149610431
DE..DELETE THIS ONE!
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I have no idea how AoE Ratio works so I'll ask directly, do I need +AoE ratio(like vubbe gloves) on a Doppel?
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>>149608901
Well well, what do we have here?
Even if an archer goes full dex, it will have 62.5% chances of dodging a swordie who got no dex.
Now, is anyone even stupid enough to be full dex like that? Doesn't really matter as a single magic attack will blow them out and they still can't dodge a corsair hook.
Any hit that goes through as a full STR swordsman will deal base+weapon+695STR*1.3
It would take a swordsman 6 basic hits to take down a full dex archer, if a single skill goes through that archer will most likely be one-hitted.
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>>149610903

swordsmen have naturally high aoe ratio (especially with a two hander), but more never hurts
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>>149610431
Is catacomb's club really the best chappy weapon? I don't want to hit my enemies with a bad dragon.
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>>149611016
>naturally high aoe ratio
>most skills have shit or none additional aoe attack
Meanwhile, Frost Cloud...
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>>149607241
Audra
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>>149611303
>only checking the bonus aoe ratio from skills

play the game
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>"[Moving Validation Error] Too fast." being triggered when you use Prakriti over a long range.
>It stucks you just like Astral Explosion now.

Fuck.
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>>149611649
Good Build
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>>149610903
When an attack hits an enemy, the enemy's AOE Defense reduces the attack's AOE Attack. Then the attack moves to check the next enemy in range and the process repeats until AOE Attack is reduced to 0.
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>>149611679
?

Do you have a reading disability?
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>>149611649
Why did he just go Chrono 3...? So close to something decent.
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>>149611958
thats my line

no one was talking about wizards you stupid faggot
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>>149612132
Which is why this is /tosg/ and not swordsman general you dumb cunt
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>>149611303
>wizards do aoe damage
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>>149603876
Hey Cattly, how well does your build work? do you enjoy rogue2? regret it for not taking falconer? prefer it over falconer? how's backstab? am i asking too many questions?
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>>149612415
>fletchers do single target damage
>clerics heal and buff
>swordsmen...
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>- Fixed the static Noble Long hair issue when equipped with Wizard Circle 3 costume.
uhmmm

Maybe they think we have this in the game already
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>>149612734
they literally copypasted some if not all the stuff, they also mention the chrono thing that we got a couple weeks ago
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>>149611679
>Wearing Gladbands on your Warlock.
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>>149612878

i dont even
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>>149612843
I'm talking about the fact that we don't actually have Wizard Circle 3 costume
>>
What is the circling + magic missile interaction? I don't understand why it does what it does.

Is it a hidden interaction or AAR/ADR-related?
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>>149612526
Rogue 2 is nice. I've never played a falconer but I want to someday. Backstab is nice with the Karacha set, I dunno how it'd be without it, I literally didn't have a dagger before then. My one regret is not putting a bit more con in my build, I'm super squishy, rogue 2 let me ignore dex though which is nice.
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Orshafriends!

Meetup is early today due to the earlier maintenance start time; 9pm server (1 hour 45mins from now) at the usual place.

See you folks there.
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>>149613210
Each magic missile has an aoe attack ratio of 1

Normally this means that even on small sized monsters (aoe def 1) each missile would only hit one enemy(then split into more).


But when the enemies have 0 aoe defense, for example circling or hangmans knot

Then each missile hit unlimited amounts of enemies in its radius
Then it branches out, and each of the split missiles again hit unlimited amounts of enemies

This is why you can oneshot 70k+ hp mobs as wiz3linker3 provided you have gathered enough of them in one hangmansknot + MM
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>>149613016
I know, reason why im pointing out that many parts of the patch notes, if not all were copy pasted from the kr patch notes, they're "adding" the reincarnate message for chrono but we got that 2 weeks ago or so, they most likely didn't check everything they put in the patch notes and just translated them
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>>149613481
Okay, so it's explicitly AOE defense based and stacking AOE attack ratio won't cause it to work that way. That clears it all up, thanks.
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>>149610968
PvP archers are mostly hit and runners, though. If you ever get a chance to hit them, it HAS to hit. You probably won't get another chance, as a Swordie.
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>>149613740
>Be cata
>Implying archers can run
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>>149613738
Correct, magic missile is fixed at 1 Aoe atk ratio, otherwise sorcs could just magic missile down packs of truffles with their buff
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>>149613917
>Be lancer
>Implying catas can run
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>>149614028
But I'm Cata3Lancer

[Jousting intensifies]
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>>149614028
>Be lancer
>Implying you can cuck him first before i can cuck you
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>>149614117
>>149614173
>PvP will be a literal joustfest
I'm okay with this.
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>>149614028
Implying there will be catas that don't go lancer. Lancer fights will be decided immediately by who knocks the other off first.
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>>149614258
My fleshcannon and skeleton archers will crush that party in the blink of an eye
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>>149614415
Rance let's be real here. They're going to mess something up with skeleton archers. They'll be just an attribute to spawn instead of normals, or they will deal pierce damage, I don't know. But something is going to make them useless and you know it.
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>>149614830

>>149614830

>>149614830

migrate
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>>149614742
I'm not Rance, but I'm confident they will do Missile - Strike damage. (Kim is my dad)

If I have to upgrade an attribute to 100 to get an extra set of skeleton archers every time I'll gladly do it.
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>>149613238
I see, im currently having a hard time deciding between rogue2 and falconer as im next to the class advance, i've heard good things about falconer's circling but never heard anything about rogue2. Thanks for replying btw
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>>149613387
Thanks for the heads up!
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>>149613481
MM can release 18 missiles max, and each enemy can only be hit by 3 missiles at most. Therefore you only need 6 JP+HK mobs to hit all of them with the max 18 hits, meaning you can do this with linker1 with a dandel gem.
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>>149614859
stop making threads so early dumb retard
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>>149564681
Yes, Porcupine.
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