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>>149396379
MERGEN INFO WHEN edition

KToS patch coming 26th July: http://www.tosbase.com/news/246/Introducing-the-Team-Battle-League/

R8 Info Swordsman: http://tos.nexon.com/community/dev/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=38

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>Can I play the game now?
YES YOU CAN (Get it on steam)! R8 Soon!

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding.

>Add-ons:
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
http://pastebin.com/PrCkZ21n (embed)

>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : There's only one KToS server
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
Clover (Karga)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
FOE(Jinsae)
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)

Cookie Cutter Guide :
>Wizard and Archer still unedited, Discuss in thread before using
http://pastebin.com/aGk6Ku7c
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First for Swaaz
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>Reiter has hit and run skills
>Hackapell will have cavalry charge skills
Will this give a new pvp potential for Archers?
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/Ohayou/ when?
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does discord really need to make the threads for you tosgay?????
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>>149339286

Previous thread
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>>149398126
nth for stop this you cucks
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>>149399936
never. never ever. he's too old now.
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>they laughed at me for going pelt3rod3
ahahahahhaha
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>try to contact Lolipan
>he's not online on a Saturday 7pm
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F.O.E is currently looking for members and everyone who is active can join us. We will do Arena and GvG. For any questions PM Jinsae.
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>we are finding out that the best TOS players are BRs

I'm not surprised
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>>149399996
wut
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>>149398126
someone from desu is trying really hard
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>>149400119
FOE is dead now
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>>149400062
For starters, no one in the guild has a name that long.
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>>149399887
>>149400062
why are you censoring your name lalacow???
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>>149400089
He says try on steam, nigga.
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>>149400089
I am online on steam. Let me log in.
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>>149400170
Was it ever alive?
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>>149379241
Reminder to PLAY THE GAME.
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When are we getting rank 9??
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>>149400656
5 hours
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>>149400259
because there wasnt reason for it to be there!
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>>149400656
>>149400698
Rank 10 when
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>>149400062
Someone probably left CnL and joined a better guild, then told everyone there what happened.
Or someone from CnL has an alt account.
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>>149400838
>>149400259
>>149400062
>>149399887
Drama Queen.
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So, event can be completed daily once per account, not per character right?
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>>149401210
Positive.
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>>149401210
yes
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2f.11213151

what to do from there? priority to max them please
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What's the fastest 5 ranks to get for a purely jew alchemist?
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>>149401793
Save for R8, idiot.
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why don't you guys just keep crashing klaip and fedi over and over nonstop?
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>>149401921
pyro2 link thau alche3
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Meanwhile at Dina Farm.
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>>149402070

Why thau?
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>>149401136
i just dont find it fair being accused without any proof, i know probably everything is shitposting but it may make some newfags actually think CnL are a bunch of l337 h4x0rs getting +40 lolopanther gear or something
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help me out with my shrek build

would he be a doppel?
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>>149402163
just because a couple of you fuckers exploit doesnt >imply all of you are bad
if youre not part of the problem, shut up?
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>>149401967
Sure? Do i really need these 11 points at R8?
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>>149400614
based misinfo agent
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Are Flame Ground and other pyro aoe spells affected by aoe attack ratio?
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Holy shit!
I came back after the loooooooooooooongest break and there are only 6000 players now at this time!?

Whhhaat!?
Where are my 50 thousand players?
Where 40 or at least 30?
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>>149402282
>if youre not part
>shut up
Take your own advice?
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>>149402541
hehehehe
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>>149402269
Pelta3>Rod3
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>>149402541
All banned.
They were bots all along.
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What's the best Cryo3 build?
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>>149402269
Swrd3 HL2 Doppel 3 Luchador when it comes out because Shrek is not a peltasta kind of guy.
But if you care about PvE then Swrd Pelt 3 Rode 3 Murmillo as rank 8.
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Enganging Desu on fedimian Suburbs, ch1. Some 7+ of them around, Kirito included. Requesting backup.
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>>149402427
I think its just fireball and maybe wall.
t. Idon'tplaypyro
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>>149402908
Wiz1,Cryo3,Chrono3
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>>149402541
Calm down, retard. 7k players is above average. This is actually one of the most active MMOs in the past 8 years.
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>>149402947
nypa lolipan
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>>149403012
>7k players is above average
Fucking, compared to what, ArcheAge and Neverwinter?

Or is this some /tosg/ meme I missed out on?
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>>149399890

mounted archers will be lancer food, srsly. they don't have the base hp for this, much less can spare points into con and do damage
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>>149402427
iirc only balls
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>>149403268
are you saying archage doesnt have an "average" userbase?
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>>149402541
>6000 players
Yeap and half of those are bots, at least
There are bots that haven't been banned for months.
This game a shit show.
I still play it and enjoy but I can admit that it's a fucking mess.
Anyone who can't is in denial.
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>>149403268
This must be your first MMO.
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>>149402908

cryo 3 kino 3
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>>149403268
>i just got tired of wow after 15 years and decided id try this f2p mmo
>why is there so few players
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>>149403347
I think AA has a quite dead userbase.
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>>149403387
>thinks 7k is above average
This must be your first MUD.
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>>149402541
They hit max several times and and quit or couldn't handle the mildest grind and quit.

Also IMC intentionally kept people out of the servers until it declined to this point.
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>>149400089
I'm done with my daily runs for the lvl 200 dungeon, what the fuck do you want me to do now? I'm not going to be online unless it's something really important.
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>>149403590
7k current players, you retard. not active players.

if you don't know the difference, consider suicide because you're too stupid to play this game or even post on 4chan.

this really must be your first mmo
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>>149403587
you realize mmo's dont have a large userbase to begin with? average is 7k
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>>149403786
when will you free your good players from the cuckprison youve caged them in?
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>>149403786
Woah, I'm sorry I didn't want to interrupt your dungeon runs I will pm you later then
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>we've gone from doomposting to kimposting and now to denialposting

Way to kill all the ohayous you fucking idiots
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>>149403786
did lolipan finally take off the mask?
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>>149404045
>Way to kill all the ohayous
Good.
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>>149403928
No one is being held prisoner, everyone is here out of their free will

If they're being cucked you might say they've liked it all along.
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>>149404045
But Mr Kim will very soon give us the great northkorean TOS update!
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CANELLE APSERION DOWN
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>>149402541
1000 on klai
600 on orsha
including bots
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>boss rush
>get your first cube
>get your second cube
>third run
>kill boss
>open the first cube
>don't close the reroll window
>pick up the third cube in the floor
>enjoy your 4th cube
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>>149404551
can you make a webm?
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>>149404551
btw this doesn't work on mission cubes
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>>149404551
You what
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>>149404551
doesnt work
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>>149403308
Let me dream please
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People who previously quit will be at the meetup, okay?
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+8 Dex is only about +12 Accuracy right? So it's better if I get Bracer of Archer for more accuracy?
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>it's a Drop Chance ?% on that thing you want episode
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>>149404781
>>149404827
>>149404946
>>149405085

To be honest, I just happened to get 4 cubes today but I'm a corsair c1 with lv 5 jolly rogers. IDON'T REMEMBER getting a cube from manticen via pillage, but I did this silly thing since I open the 3 boxes at the same time, this time I just opened one before taking the last. SO either I got a cube from manticen via jolly roger or the shit that I posted really works, I really want someone to confirm this now
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>>149405395
No.
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>>149405883
jolly roger has like 1.15% chance of extra cube. its been confirmed.
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>>149405767
KPD is a good system :^)))))))))
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how many cubes for arde? i'm at 17 now
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>>149406714
only a few more, my dearest savior.

hehehehehehe
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>rank 20-30
>havnt bothered obtaining items for adventure journel
will korean patch have any benefits to high AJ rank? i can nolife if theres a title or something....
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>>149407616
iirc nothing changed about AJ
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Our response time to engagements is at an all-time low, but we managed to push them off eventually. Once we got enough counters to Desu's Clericspam, it was easy enough to remove them.
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>>149407784
>starts a post with complaining about his people
>"we managed... eventually"
Why dies futureproof put up with this?
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>>149407784
>FP so shit they can't even beat Desu 1vs1
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Is this game fun
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>>149407718
thank you
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>>149407990
>Can't beat Desu 1v1
It was 5 FP against the entire Desu guild and we were still getting more kills than them. Other people came and they left because they know they can only fight while outnumbering people.
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>>149408010
It's cute!
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>>149408010
Yes as in farm bees and nothing else.
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So wait, is qs3 into sr actually bad?
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>>149408010
no
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>>149408116
Sounds like FP to be honest senpai
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>>149408010
sometimes it is. and >>149408214
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>>149408116
>entire Desu guild
Post a screenshot of their entire guild against 5 fp then
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>>149408253
No.

QS3 itself is just underwhelming if you don't have a Didel Grand Cross which you likely will never have.
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>>149408253
QS3 without a didel is kinda crap, with it it's quite alright
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>>149408787
Nuh uh. You can +15 or more a regular Cross!

It might cost a fucking stupid amount of money but at least it's a sure thing!
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i cant fking load this game since this morning why is nobody else here bitching about it
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>149406714
At least 20 more. At least. Probablistically speaking.
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>>149408903
Weapon buffs and special anvils scale with number of stars.

Even if you +20 a grand cross it will still have meh damage and barely get like 30~40 damage from a weapon buff.
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>>149408570
>claims that FP can't fight Desu
>he wasn't even there watching
Wew lad. It wasn't even 5FP vs Desu, Triella dc and Dmn left so it was Lolipan, sfdghsf and Korasai against Desu.
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>>149409003
you probably got banned anon
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>>149408116
>Bot shitposting in the thread instead of speaking to face
How surprising.
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>>149408116
fp trying to steal credit? look at the names this screenshot >>149407784

lolipan you should've come on your thaum you'd be useful instead your shitty rodelero doing nothing. if you had reversi their spawn camp you could've an mvp like patsch
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>>149406714
I've opened 80+ with no arde

statistically I think it's 5%, but that's rarely the chase
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>>149408787
>>149408875
Mhm okay. My main concern is SR anyway, thanks anon!
Although would it be better to reroll my a2-qs3? What's the best build to get into SR?
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Why are there many people looking for Grima Robe?
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>>149409272
Start by picking a better R7, then pick a better R6, and go from there.
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>>149409272
archer2>hunter3>Sr2

but wait till archer r8 announcement to see if falconer gets blitz beat and SR gets shit.
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>>149409465
>hunter and reiter
why
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>>149409419
I want to ride shit, and I like the outfit of my SR.
>>149409465
Isn't it bad though because of mounting and whatever shit that was discussed before? I haven't played Hunters so I don't know.
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>>149409108
I count about 8 desu, is that their whole guild?
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>>149409674
>name
>trip
>"obviously?"
Please don't 'return,' I beg you.
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>>149409108
Good job FP. Destroy those channel crashing bug abusing shitters.
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Can you get all sorts of stats in all Hair costumes? (1,2,3) I need many accuracy.
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>>149409674
Fuck off tripfag
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>>149409465
>to see if falconer gets blitz beat
It won't. It'll get two support oriented skills and maybe, just maybe a deent damage dealing one, mark my fucking words
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>>149409674
It's all about Fletchers and Elememes now, tripfag-kun.
If you're asking about the "OP" swordie build, its probably some highlander into barb into doppel bullshit.
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>>149409821
You mean CnL?
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>>149409630
>Taking a hyperbole literally
Obviously it can't be their entire guild because there are people offline and people who simply don't care about gvg. But saying FP can't fight Desu is a straight lie when there was literally FIVE of us fighting them when Kirito and his crew came and started camping spawn after we beat Desu at the 190 dungeon entrance. But keep shitposting about FP, if you have the guild that much why don't you just wardec on us?

I'm not trying to discredit Clover, CnL and Valhalla etc for coming and wiping Desu either, that's just you trying to stir drama.
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>>149409943
We all did it together. FP, Clover, and CNL.
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>>149409869
>dissing on fencer
it probably will have higher dps than Doppel to be quite honest
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>>149409674
Read the R8 news about swordies and come up with your own conclusion mabishitter.
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>>149409342
IIRC it's part of the collection that gives you +2 spaces for team storage. Unless those were recipe only...
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>>149410024
are you implying that CNL doesnt channel crash?
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>>149410091
recipe, yeah
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>>149410150
Channel2 crashed, but it was Desu's doing. They wanted to prevent us from reassembling. Good thing it doesn't stay down for long.
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>its a keep d/cing episode
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>>149410006
>if you hate* the guild that much why don't you just wardec on us?

I'm guildless and I don't hate FP
I was just dubious about your claims of superiority, because people have a habit of only posting their side of the story.
I'm sure desu are singing a different tune right now.
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>>149407990
>1vs1
That's not what the announcer counted. It's good that someone showed up to fight us for a change. My only complaint is IMC's coding; it went full slideshow and prevented me from moving in a fight and then crashed my computer when I came back. Missed a lot, but at least I was in time to attack this zerg.

I was impressed by Korasai. They need to add a kill streak announcer like in unreal tournament just for her.
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>tfw I still can't decide what I'm doing with the character slot I'm gonna be getting
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>>149409630
Learn to count better, there are at least 10 in that single screenshot.
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>>149409869
So barbarian is still the best way to go?
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>>149410457
>claims of superiority
It's a reply to >>149407990 blatant shit posting. Saying FP couldn't fight Desu when we keep getting kills even though they clearly outnumber us is just a straight lie.
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>>149410754
yeah
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>>149410350
Any specific details about which one of them and how they did it to report? The crash was at 8:09pm
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In all honesty, I feel like FP is a good guild, but that's in spite of the leader, not because of him.

But I'm not in FP just a lurker so my opinion probably doesn't mean anything.
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>>149410793
>FP gets proportionally more kills than Desu considering they're outnumbered
We clearly beat Desu!
>Valhalla gets proportionally more kills than FP considering they're outnumbered
We clearly beat Valhalla!
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>>149410754
Either that or some Fencer build, you might want to take a look at the pastebin OP though.
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>>149409108
That barely counts, 3/4 of those were one fucking person
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[21/04/2016]
> â–º Sonic Strike:
> â—‹ Now has 30% Chance to afflict the enemy with [Blind] when attacking.
[28/04/2016]
> â–º Sonic Strike: Confusion Attribute has been added.
> â—‹ Targets in line of fire from Sonic Strike will be afflicted with [Blind], Afflicts the enemy with [Sonic Strike: Confusion] debuff for 3 seconds.
> â—‹ [Sonic Strike : Confusion]: Reduces Psychical Defense by 15% Per Attribute level, Increases physical damage by 2% Per Attribute level.

this is pretty cool I guess
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>>149410980
I think things are pretty close to changing in FP. The guild has changed a lot since it was created and from the outside, but close to a lot of the members, it's starting to sound like there are a few people who are trying really hard and aren't being heard.
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>>149411262
killing the same few people**

all of desu my ass
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>>149411262
>war
>hurr x doesn't count because I don't want it to!
Fuck off you honourfag
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>>149411425
What I'm saying is that wasn't the entire Desu guild
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>>149411182
Fencer build the evasion tank, yeah i saw that, but dont most of the fencer skills are quick reaction?

My internet is not very good.

Also would that mean i should pour all my points on dex and a bit of str, ignoring con?
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>>149411159
>And yet another FP shit poster who wasn't even there to watch to fight happen
Not only was there 4 more guilds fighting each other at that time, you also don't know shit about how Valhalla got wiped back to back before ending up camping choke points because they can't fight in open field.
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>game is constantly crashing
do a fresh install anon!
>game is still crashing, lost all 3 dungeon runs
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>>149410754
>>149409674
No one better accept this retard into any guild.
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>>149411685
To add to this, real pvp is objective based with towers precisely because camping a choke point with the currently OP gravity pole is a very easy way to get kills.
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>>149411851
Savage.
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This game is pretty fun desu
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>>149411395
FP isnt as fun as it once was.
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>>149411851

I'm sure CuteNotLewd will take him in
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>>149412007
>2560x1080
Cattly is that you?
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>>149411984
Savage but right.

>"hehe i might be a girl" name
>trip
>comes back and demands to be spoonfed
>wants to roll a barbarian because they were overpowered back in icbt2

You are quite cancer.
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>>149411685
Except I was, and I've been since the guild's inception. The real first guild, not the shit you call FP today.

Nothing has changed since the days we used to war Myst and the like. Keep deluding yourself.
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>>149412095
It sounded like the inner circle is still pretty tight-knit. Do you think a lot of the old members would quit the game if you started splitting up? I'd really hate to see that.
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>>149411395
>trying really hard
>at a dead game
There are people actually do this
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>>149411395
It's usually egos that kill guilds, and with dvine out there's not too many left, bot-chan maybe but that's like all I can really think of. I don't know why people would quit soon.

It can be frustrating though. Sometimes the guild feels really disorganized and unresponsive, but not all the time, some of the people in it are really friendly.
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21333888
Skills for this build and how do I spend in Stats?
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>>149412098
>tfw FOE does
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>>149412291
The inner circle was already split the moment iTOS was released. Took lolipan a century and a half to make the guild because of hardware issues. At least half of the most active FP founded Clover.
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>>149412665
CryoChrono is full CON.
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hey famsandfriends

red pill me on dievdirbys. seems shit except for that one spell that gives you invincibility.
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>>149412893
May I ask, why is that?
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>>149410457
Yeah the tune where they all remove me from their friends lists and send me angry whispers for pushing their faces in

We've been killing Desu this entire afternoon, the only reason they were able to take us down occasionally at Fedi Subs is because they outnumber us so much
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>>149412131
Who
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>>149412954
Owl shits damage. Cooldown reduction is a huge deal. Carve isn't bad at all for leveling, and if you end up a STR cleric for some fucking reason (usually monks or confused paladins) it stays strong.

>>149412965
You won't do any damage so INT is pointless. CON makes you impossible to kill, especially combined with subzero shield.
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>>149412954
Play the game

>redpill me
Actually, don't play and fuck off back to /pol/ or /v/
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>>149413130
Woah, unintentionally triggered you with two words.

Sorry man, forgot that this was your personal safe space.
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>>149412980
>send me angry whispers for pushing their faces in
Post logs then.
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>>149412954
20% cool down reduction is nice
Owls are good for large groups of mobs or bosses if you can position
W O R L D T R E E
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>>149412980
Isn't all they have to do to live vs you is have a pd or oracle on hand? Is their comp really that bad?
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>>149413365
ptg please

a character is not decided by 2 mid-tree circles
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>>149413289
>name drop bait
ayyy
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>>149412965
Chrono has 0 (zero) damaging skills and Cryo's skills all scale badly except of Snow Rolling, which is melee and on a high cooldown.

Chrono, and Cryo to a lesser extent, make you a support, as support you just need to buff your allies, debuff your enemies and stay alive, not to do damage.
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>>149413365
Nah, poison isn't all I have up my sleeve.

>>149413289
:^)
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The sound effects in this game remind me of mobile games or slot machines
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>tfw still can't decide what to make for a pvp focused character
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>>149414383
Kabbalist
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>>149410980
When you compare him to other guild leaders, he's doing a pretty good job. The system makes things very dependent on templars and not many people are willing to take all the punishment that comes with being one.

If you want another Katz, someone has to do the job and lead by example. Most potential templars are either insufferable egotists, quitters, or casuals who can't invest the time needed. Finding good templars is like looking for lolis in the men's room.
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>>149414564
I'm not stupid.
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>>149414831
>implying kabbalist isn't good at PVP
Both R7 clerics are strong in PVP.
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>>149414383
>Sword3-Cata3-x-Lancer
Can you use hook while mounted? If not just go Dragoon I guess. Maybe some rodelero-murmillo memery, but you'd probably want corsair I guess, so no High Kick
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>>149414647
I honestly think lp just gave up. He really put in the time and devoted himself early on. The guild tournament thing he put together took a ton of work and he really put in the effort. But he just doesn't seem to care any more. Logs on, posts asking for more people to come help his guild PVP or shouts for 200 groups and logs back off.

He's just slowly quitting like everyone else.
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>>149415224
>the breakup with atom eventually killed fp
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is battle bracelet a dpk item or 0.5%?
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>>149415036
>Can you use hook while mounted?
Supposedly, yes.
The first 100 levels of that sounds really dull though.

>>149414882
I mean I'm fucking terrible as a healer in pvp.
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>>149415224
Guild Battles are 3 days away, anon. Everyone just sort of gave up on open world GvG after the restrictions.
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>>149415664
is that even english?
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>>149416204
sorry, i fucked up. i didn't even bother to reread it. i was trying to do multiple stuff and type that out so it's messed up. i'll try again.
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Current succesful scam list:
>Selling templeshooter card level 10 500k in talt, either he pays first or half half, either way its free shekels, alternatively just say you'll sell normal templeshooter card for much lower amount than normal
current successes: 12 times, called scammer in shout 3 times, over 10 failures
>Find a clear rmt item on market (e.g. juko tail for 100k each and at x amount), now place that exact same amount for exact same price on market
Current successes: 4 times, failure 19 times
>Buy silver for 2m from rmt per $1 before selling to people on steam for steam shekels for 2m per $10
Current successes: 8 times, reverse scammed: 2 times, failure and general people not understanding: uncountable
>if theres none of an item on market first place an item at about 2-3 times how much you want to sell it before putting another of the item at your actual sell price
success: too many to count, failure: too many to count
>purchase all of an item to keep the price up
known successes: pincers, cannon and superior cannon
known failures: blue spion leather (too easy to get), mithril (too many bots), tons more

Daily reminder to keep scamming the retards that plague tree of savior.
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>>149416461
Im pretty sure everyone agrees with you when you say Lolipan is a bad guild leader anyway. Futureproof is pretty dead as well compared to the first weeks of it being created in itos
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>>149415825
dpk but gl getting it with the tons of bots that plague the place

You'll need red orbs to clear the place
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>>149412642
>ego because lolipan tells us he's gonna be mia until he gets his laptop fixed, hasn't done shit for a month, and i already told him if he's useless then i'll leave
let's be real here. lolipan formed the guild late and then when we joined he didn't even declare war with anybody for so long flet got frustrated with the game, deleted his character and then quit. flet has the most pure pvp spec in the entire guild but the retard didn't even go to war with anybody until he quit the fucking game. i was gonna quit the guild in a couple days if he didn't do it soon myself.

people are unhappy but they like other people in futureproof so they don't just jump ship. basically nobody likes lolipan and how fucking trash he is. at most they haven't figured out how bad he is yet cause their eyes are closed.

karga, katz, deliciouscake, jinsae, plasmagica when i ask you to help me quest where i follow you around. just going where you go as you level will you tell me to fuck off? will you then ask me for 30m afterwards as a "joke" to level the tower? even while the 30m is earned off the character you can't help level? get fucking real. lolipan is a piece of shit.
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>>149416904
is that even english?
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>>149416956
once is fine, but i'm still doing other things so i don't care anymore
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>>149415551

Lolipan's been lonely for a while but he'll finally get the chance to service Atom's thick dripping futaspear again in arena next week, so things might finally be looking up for FP.
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>>149416904
If you were in my guild, I'd tell you to buzz off
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>>149416904
>>ego because lolipan tells us he's gonna be mia
miaaaaaa
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>>149417598
>lolipan and mia were the same all along
SURPRISE
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>>149417598
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>>149417598
Hi
>>149417653
Please no!
>>149417805
NO! DE...DELETE THIS ONE!
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Do you guys unironically believe that crashing channels rolls back your items?
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>>149418217
FACTS:
crashing channels does NOT roll back your items
futureproof is NOT falling apart
the world boss, bee and alchemist mafias are NOT real
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>>149416674
hey famalam, selling popolion hats 200k ea. pm me :^)
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>>149418310
CuteNotLewd does NOT crash fedimian ch1 for squire monopoly
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>>149418769
yes and after he leveled to where he couldn't solo quest anymore he went full con. he could've absolutely destroyed in gvg so we never even lost a fight but lolipan didn't even wardec anybody after he formed his pvp guild until flet quit
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>>149416904
what was flet's build?
wiz3>kino3>featherfoot?
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Anyone in Klaipeda i can party with?
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>>149419043
No.
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>>149419043
parties are broken stupid
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>>149419043
>party with a tripfag
>be seen talking to a tripfag
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>>149419043
arent you that other mmo maid character autist?
get lost
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>>149419043
No I wouldn't be caught dead with a faggot like you
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>>149411293
>only 3 secs
I really wish they made it 5-10. 3 seconds is only like one multishot charge.
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>>149411293
So Falcon2 is pretty cool now?
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>>149419043
Reminder to NOT steal his pictures and DONT impersonate him.
Especially not a alot of ppl doing that. Its rude and he does not like that.
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>>149419043
Questing with a party is broken atm.
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>>149419043

CuteNotLewd would lave to have you, PM Plasmagica and she'll take care of you.
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Cats, they're stealing your thing.
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>>149416904
>>149417371
>>149415551
>>149415224
Will lolipan forever be the biggest embarrassment of tosg?
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>>149419541
dont, if you join CnL youll get banned by default, they are the hackers known as 4chan
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>>149419536
>>149419089
O-oh.... ok.
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>>149419425
Small aoe, it is literally the size of the target circle, unlike multishot which is actually bigger than the target circle. Unless mobs are stacked ontop of each other, you won't hit more than a few with sonic strike. 3 seconds debuff is also really too short with really long cd. If they increased the size of the aoe it'll be good. Also depends on how many levels the attribute maxes out at.
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>>149419425
It's cooll I guess but not that great. Cooldown is still too high on that skill and most falconer skills to be honest. Falconer by itself doesn't deal much damage, but my guess is that the class is intended to be more support like.

I hope c3 adds a lot to falconer in terms of utility
>>149419581
no, that'll be >>149419043
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>>149419541
go away
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>>149419541
This, CnL is a honeypot. Go with TakeItEasy.
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Remember, Mariel's BR penor is forever engraves into mabinogi gen.
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>>149419578
Yeah cats can go commit suicide for all we care
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>>149419906
Shit meant to quote >>149419625
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>>149419824
>literally who is a bigger embarrassment than some cuck that has been spilling spaghetti since his very first post
naw
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>>149419790
Not too hard to gather them up though.

>>149419824
Yeah, I'm still waiting on r8 info to continue leveling. I'm basically just doing my rushes and missions right now.
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Good evening, everyone. In light of the GvG update reaching us very shortly, I'd like to call up a Futureproof general meeting. The subject matter shall be the following:

>Deciding which character each member will be playing with
>Who can play at what time
>Our current formation's strengths and weaknesses

Furthermore, in the coming days, it is very likely that I will alter's Futureproof's rules slightly. I originally made Futureproof to serve as a home for /tosg/ people who wanted to hang around and play with other /tosg/ people. Different from other /tosg/ guilds at the time, I made it very clear that we were PvP oriented and that we'd be having wars frequently. This attracted a specific group of people and, for quite some time, we were unbeatable.

When IMC axed Guild Wars, about half of the guild's original founding members left. Rotation is part of any MMO guild, and we've been steadily replacing those people. However, now that we have clear goals in our sight, I believe it is time to change the stance I took before the guild, and towards recruitment.

As such, we'll stop being completely lax with out requirements. It won't be anything strict, but at the very least, we only want to accomodate members who have PvP and/or GvG as one of their goals.

Full details on this will come soon. For now, I'd like to have all Futureproof available to assemble tomorrow(Sunday), at 8 PM. There'll be another assembly on Monday, at noon. The Monday meeting is only for people who can't make it to either one. If you can't make it to either meetings, I'll whisper you individually.
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Did someone ever got this from Saalus? Or it doesn't exist yet.

http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/recipes/34057/
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>>149420159
>formation's
But Centurion was kileld?
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>>149420120
Yea you can gather them up but that doesn't change the fact that the skill is bad and you have to put more effort into getting it to hit everything properly.
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>>149420183
It exist. Don't know about gem brac
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>>149420159
>8pm
>Doesn't list a timezone or if it's server time
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>>149420159
4chan guilds are serious business!

go fuck yourself. the rest of you futurecucks should consider joining a different guild.
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>>149419824
Excuse me?
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>>149419578
The Cocks Jim.
They are multiplying.
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>>149420159
>trying to copy katz in actually sounding like a leader
>except turns out to be overly tryhard
Fucking katz just wings it and makes it sound more enticing than anything you ever say, how much more pathetic do you want to be?
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>>149420580
At least lolipan is now trying to put in the effort. No need to antagonize someone trying hard mate.
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>>149420159
lolicuck is everything wrong with futurecuck, seriously how can you guys put up with this faggot? just look at this faggot post, how is this not fucking retarded? is this some fucking normie tryhard guild now?
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>>149420159
getting ready to try and steal members from clover and cutenotlewd for gvg? finally showing your true colors i guess. get ready for lolipan to kick out new people cause they don't want to "pvp" so he can jack other members to get him a win. scumbag fuck.
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>>149420392

Just because a guild isn't some super serious no fun allowed tryhard guild doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't set clearly defined goals for the guild.
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>>149419790
>so depends on how many levels the attribute maxes out at.
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/attributes/310010
5 it seems, so 75% more damage at the cost of giving the moster 10% more atk. Pretty good, but you'd need a party to make good use of it.
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>>149419906
TiE isn't recruiting
At least not anyone from here
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where were you when you realized GM's support CuteNotLewd?
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>>149420757
to be a normie tryhard guild, lolicuck is everything wrong with fp, seriously how can you guys put up with this faggot? just look at this retarded post >>149420159 how can you not cringe after reading this? it's beyond cringe worthy, you just facepalm and shake your head after reading it
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>>149420159
Make a fucking steam group or something, no one gives a shit
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>>149420898
Moonie was a mistake
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>>149420863
>giving the moster 10% more atk
Are you sure it works like this and not gives anyone who attacks the monster 10% more atk instead as well as reducing the monster's def?
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>>149420159

atta girl now go find some desu dick to service
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>>149420159
just my 2cents

if you're actually intending to be tryhard, you need to put some effort yourself, not just leveling your own characters, if you want someone to level a full con support class, you must be willing to sacrifice your own time to help them achieve their goals in any way you can, since their goals should be your goals as well. Instead all you do is play solo and ask for help when you need it, and log off when you don't have any other goal left for the day.

You should have a rough idea of the roles you want in a 15man setup, it can be hard to force your guildmates to play roles they don't want, but at least you can give priority for the actual battle to the roles you need rather than just a first come first served method.

Leadership isn't just giving orders, it's actually giving a fuck about the people who follow you and try your best to make everyone happy about being with you and not treated just as your personal army.
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>>149420757
It's very obvious he's trying to overcompensate for his strings of embarrassment. He should just quietly disappear, nothing he do will redeem him anymore, he's beyond helping at this point.
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>>149420937
>that item description
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What's the least cancerous /tosg/ guild on Klaip?
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>>149421475

F.O.E
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>>149421178
>Afflicts the enemy with [Sonic Strike: Confusion] debuff for 3 seconds.
It's a debuff, so I guess it's buffing the enemy. However, Warcry is both a debuff and a selfbuff so who knows? If it buffs your entire party it'd be great, but I don't think that'll be the case
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>>149421475
probably the ones that don't erp
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>>149421475
the one rance refuses to make
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>>149421308
Fucking this. lolipan is the most fake person in this general. The selfish bastard only gives a shit about himself and only does things if they benefit him.
Other fp members should just grow some balls and leave him already. You don't need to force yourself to put up with him. You can just add other fp members to your friendlist and play with them, you don't need to force yourself to be in a guild with these kind of fake leader types.
HUUUUURRRRRRRR DONATE TALT TO MUH AWESOME GUILD, I'LL JUST BE SOLOING MY THEORYCRAFTER ALT CHARACTERS, MAKE SURE YOU GUYS WORK HARD TO LEVEL UP THE GUILD
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It seems a lot of the hate I'm getting are from people that are actually in Futureproof.

If you hate me so much, leave and make your own guild. Let's see if you can do better. Every thing I try always blows up in my face.
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>>149421743
Settle down, Kirito.
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>>149420846
>overcompensating
Did you even read the post? He's obviously turning the guild into some super serious no fun allowed tryhard guild. Those aren't clearly definde goals, those are overcompensating goals.
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Are there any cool, non-cutesy mounts out yet?

Have they revamped any Swordsman stuff?

Sorry, I pop in here to ask periodically. I love the game, it just needs work.
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huehuehue
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So someone recommended me sword3/cata3/corsair(/lancer) as a pvp build.
How would you stat something like that and how would you adjust this?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11117877.1123556a.3f.152535
With the STR changes, would buffing up concentrate and funneling a good bit into str be a good idea?
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>>149422039
don't go all emo now
it's called feedback loser, it's just aggressive feedback since this is an anonymous board and you know the kind of people you're dealing with nee~san

Some of the things people are telling you are true, some are just exagerations, but most are with the same intention as your of improving the guild and have fun together, otherwise they would just quit instead of rambling about how good/bad you are.
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>>149421731
>Rance says he can't because he has to work and shit
>omgg plss make nieuw Geldern
If you guys think every guild in Klaipeda is shit, why don't you make a new one then?

>inb4 t. lolipantsu
Nope, I just don't care much about drama, pvp or whatever, people on fp are nice and honestly that's what I care about the most on a guild
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Any tips for someone looking to get into this game?
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>>149422376
Yeah, FP has a lot of nice and helpful people
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>>149422471
Don't.
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>>149420159
>katz actually willing to help people and accepts any level or class in the guild, even if they aren't a specific build
>lolipan DEMANDS specifics but refuses to play with anyone or even helps them to level
>also makes excuses everywhere when someone brings something up

>>149421308
Pretty much this.
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>>149422657
It's too late for that. I'm going in.
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>>149422774
What do you enjoy playing
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>>149422471
Make sure you know what role/class you're going to build into. Save up silver and make sure your first purchase is a Token because it just gives you really good benefits. Farm Cafrisun if you want and make sure to buy buffs from Pardoner shops
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>>149422062
t.loli i refuse to help people but they should do everything for the guild in my stead cuck
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>>149420251
STOP REMINDING ME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezrbyf6t9mY
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>>149420947
stop it dvine
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>>149422891
I said settle down, Kirito.
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>>149422862
I'm open to pretty much anything, I just don't want to go full retard here.
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>>149422039

Lolipan, you're posting on a chinese cartoon imageboard that is

1) Open and accessible to the public (the muh sekrit club days are long gone)
2) Anonymous, so everyone can talk shit freely, including lurkere from rival guilds even.

If you can't handle the heat, make a FP >Discord to rodelpost in already.
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>ashaq underground prison

I wish this place didn't exist.
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>>149422039
This is not your safezone, feel free to leave if you feel triggered. Reddit sounds like your kind of place.
>Let's see if you can do better.
Pretty much anyone can do better just by making their own tosg guild and then just playing together without making stupid demands of their guild members
You have to be a special kind of retard to fuck it up as hard as you have. Not even the other tosg guilds are this retarded, they just do things at their own pace and everything goes smoothly. You're the only tryhard ruining his own guild.
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>>149422039
Nice false flagging, faggot.
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>>149422376
>>149422637
>Yeah, FP has a lot of nice and helpful people
>helpful people
everyone but lolipan
>guild leader is the least helpful person out of all the members
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>>149421475
FP
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>>149423086
and thus lolipan became the discord
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How is it that Lolipan, the Anthony Burch of /tosg/, can have his guild in the OP, but I can't because my name is sherlockbr?

You have effectively killed my chances of having a /tosg/ guild before I could even get started, and I already wasted 1m on this guild.

Please give AttentionHorse a chance. I am on Silute, and my name is my actual name + br and it's from the novels, not the shitty BBC show.
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>>149423665

>No screenshot of your character and guild again

Take this (You) and give up already
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>>149422774
unless you copy a build from the forums identically you're very likely to reroll

Your first priority should be getting an arde dagger, don't spend much money until you get that, that will carry until 210ish easily. The second should be a token, or just buy it with real money if you like the game enough once you're around lvl 140.

Don't save exp cards until lvl 6, cards lvl 5 and bellow are meh, use them whenever you want, preferably trying to stay within 10 levels of the area where you are questing.

At level 100 you unlock daily missions, go to fedimian and search for the mercenary room, you'll see a bunch of people there and queue for the first mission, those will help you level much faster for some time.

The game has many many issues, but it's solid underneath, otherwise we wouldn't be here, but you'll need some patience to deal with them, and a lot of the time if you're improvising a build you'll end up dissapointed so don't be afraid to roll a memebuild people will like you more, unlike other games were going something like "rogue" it's shit because there's a million rogues and no healers, being a meme here is actually good.
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>>149420159
>everyone shitting on lolipan anonymously
>but everyone in fp shows up anyways for the tryhard meets cause they're all cucks like their guild leader
so FP confirmed for cuck guild?
>takeiteasy erp guild
>cnl hacker guild
>clover ??? guild
>fp cuck guild
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>>149423831
So if I post my screenshot, you'll include me? I'll be home in less than an hour
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>>149423869
First priority is a token you idiot. The arde is second. If you get a token first you get 1 more dungeon run and you can actually sell shit on the market without getting ripped off by IMCTAX so you can buy your arde faster.

Having a token in this game is the most important thing to do. You should ALWAYS be using a token. Everything else is second fiddle.
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>>149423892
I'll add it next time if I bake the next bread
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>>149420159
this post was yours right?
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>>149423892

Well I don't make the OPs, but if you post proof I don't see why not.
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>>149423892
Just don't make stupid excuses and adamantly post your guild recruitment every thread also no one gives a shit about your name, stop explaining it, no one cares.
The more attention you bring to your shitname the more people will call you out on it. Don't be like lolicuck. if you want to learn how to recruit for your guild, just look at katz's comfy recruitment.
Keep it short, sweet and simple. You don't need to add in any other retarded details that have no relation to your guild at all. Evantually someone will add it to the OP if you aren't retarded about it.
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>>149423892
I'll add it if I make the OP just because it'd be nice to see /tosg/ represented in every server.
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>there is literally no reason to pick sorc over any other class
nice game dotards
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>>149420321
>>149420159
Probably 8 est.
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>>149424067
your leveling won't be affected as much before 140 if you don't have a token

I've done it with and without one and having an arde will help you breeze through maps much more than 1 dungeon run and 30%killing exp, as well as being way cheaper than a token right now and helping you farm the money for the token afterwards, instead of saving a mill+ for a token and then painfully saving for an arde next.

But at least you should try to help the new people instead of venting your virginity with other posters
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>>149424386
To be a slut?
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i just watched a cleric die from poison

nigga just use cure
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>>149424324
>represented in every server
the varena seamonkeys would like a word with you
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>>149424421
Biggest embarrassment of tosg.
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>>149424147
jesus christ man
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I'm ready for the big kToS patch, IMC!
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>>149424386
There is in PVP, but in PVE you're not wrong. It's a solid choice for people going necro though because of the catbuffs.
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>tfw all this started with lolipan sucking atoms cock like the cuck he is
tfw no-one would be the wiser if lolicuck didn't come out into the open about how much of a cuck he is and everyone would still think futureproof is a representative of /tosg/
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>>149424721
>tfw can't max out necro while having sorc2 for summon controls
Sorc really should be moved back a circle considering how weak it is.
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>>149424424
>this much misinfo
You only need pardoner buffs and cafrisun to breeze through everything before lvl200. Token is much more important than getting an arde and the 30% killing xp is extremely fucking good at low levels.

Stop giving shitty advice and play the game. Token > arde always. You can fucking save up enough money for a token before you even hit lvl90.

>instead of saving a mill+ for a token and then painfully saving for an arde next.
With a token you can actually sell shit on the market without retarded tax so buying an arde is so much easier with a token. What fucking nonsense are you spouting?
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>>149424861
t. bee afker who don't want more competition
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>>149424147
I've never stolen panties in my life. I am not particularly obssesed with them, either.
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Do I need any spr as a Derbydoctor?
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>>149424943
>afking at bees with sorc
You realize autopot is confirmed to be bannable right?
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>>149424950
>I am not particularly obssesed with them, either.
>name is lolipan
Who you trying to fool nigga?
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WHATS THE BEST WAY TO TRANSITION FROM PVE TO PVP
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>>149424904
Again you could have written your own version of a guide or tips to the person asking for them, instead of spouting your /v/contrarian mentality.

Oh yeah he is going to sell his fucking ubuko staff for 4k, such a big help, and wasting more money on buffs instead of saving money, most money will come from bursting through quests fast.

But whatever, you sound as mad as if I had stolen your mother's virginity, fucking chill asstard.
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How would you all feel about a pirate-themed /tosg/ guild?

I don't care what classes you guys play, but I'm the fucking Captain, so I will only ever play Corsair.
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>>149425161
Reroll?
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>>149425161
Reroll.

Unironically, it's to reroll. There's not much overlap in viable builds.
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>>149424950
>not even defending himself against the pedo accusations
Seriously though, are you?
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>>149425216
I'll join with my trillion pirate spirits when rank 8 comes out.
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>>149425220
>>149425239
WHAT HOT BUILDS SHOULD I REROLL TO SENPAIS
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>>149424904
>play the game
Hi rance.
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I'm about to reach doppel 2 anons, where do I put my saved 5 points?

New skills?
Cyclone 10?
or Deeds 10?

I'm torn between Cyclone 10 and Deeds 10, is Cyc 10 really that good? wouldnt Deeds 10 be more beneficial since it potentially doubles all of my skills?
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>>149425216
I'd join if I can be admiral
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>>149425163
>someone calls me out on my bullshit
>better shitpost them
Just admit you're wrong already faggot. You're probably the only idiot in the thread who thinks 150 more damage is better than all the premium benefits token gives.
>Again you could have written your own version of a guide or tips to the person asking for them, instead of spouting your /v/contrarian mentality.
I don't have to link his post for him to read mine you retard. Your first day on 4chan?
Also low level items are where all the money is at, why the fuck do you think people farm melinas staff or battle bracelets? Fucking leather bangles and shredded pieces of cloth sell more than shitty whites at 200+.
Play the game.
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>>149422338
why would buffing concentrate be more of a good idea than currently?
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>>149425382
wait for a month to see what all the rank 8s would be
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>>149425429
I thought people are advising against maxing cyclone now since there will be a new combo at rank 8? Any DOPPELMEMES have input?
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>>149425385
Not me. I'm not a fan of that phrase. I do agree with most of what was said, though.
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>>149425385
Rance isn't the only person to spout this meme.
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>>149425654
cyclone will be the meme at r8, there's no reason to believe it won't replace elememes
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is there some form of stat reset/re-allocation? im installing the game and lookin over the pastebin and im wondering if i have to worry a lot about my stats on my first character? can i fix my stats later if i dont do them correctly?
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Is it worth putting more than one point into sacrament as a chaplain? 2(sacrament)+3(last rites) damage per level seems quite piddly.
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>>149425737
ELEMEMES ARE DEAD AND HEHEHE MAN KILLED HIS OWN PET CLASS TRUST NO ONE NOT EVEN YOUR HEHESELF
>>149425820
STATS ARE PERMANENT BECAUSE OF THE GAME WANTS TO MAKE GOOD (BAD) BUILDS
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>>149423882
I highly suspect it's just dvine posting multiple times.
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>>149425607
It apparently has strength scaling now.
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>>149425385
>people still assuming people who say shit like 'Stop giving shitty advice and play the game' are Rance
Have you ever actually talked to Rance? Like ever? The guy is super chill and doesn't talk like this.
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>>149425321
3DPD applies to all ages.
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>>149425820
>>149420937
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>>149424147
Where and when was this?
I need to see the thread
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>>149425901
>STATS ARE PERMANENT BECAUSE OF THE GAME WANTS TO MAKE GOOD (BAD) BUILDS
oh damn. so how bad do new players usually mess up their stats? is it common to just make another character later?
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>>149425973
That guy was obviously memeing, hi rance is becoming a meme now if you haven't noticed.
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>>149426104
Yes it's very common to reroll for various reasons
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wheres the best way to get a thick chain? ive killed the archers / magers / blue's for 4 hours and no luck. just want a couple to complete my collections
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hehehehe
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>>149425974
3DPD has no relation to being a pedo though. Do you even know what 3D pig disgusting means? It means real girls suck, whether they're loli or not.
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>>149425593
>total newbee
>not being clueless on what is fucking worth a shit
>spending hours grinding on low level zones against 10 bots per channel running around killing everything with their arde dagger
not to mention by the time he'll rack up a million+ silver he'll be past all those low level zones.

You're so sad pamperchu, keep dreaming on your token wonderland where sacrament carrys you until level 200+ by giving you 30 fucking extra damage roflmao loser, I bet you party with MarielX
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>>149426210
Go at it another 4 hours
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>>149426258
So there you have it.
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>>149426203
If you are going to pretend to be me at least make it somewhat believable.
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>>149426104
It's worth noting that some builds are hard to mess up, since they only invest in one stat. For example, cryo-chrono builds only pump up CON. Some other wizard builds only get enough CON to comfortably not die and pump the rest to INT.
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>>149426203
why is loli talking about elevated? all we do is 200 rush and theory craft builds that have already been proven to be bad. we are literal nobodys. you can do better than this
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>>149426232
Enough is enough, Kim. Stop laughing or else
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>>149426371
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>>149426328
but theres 3 maps in which they can spawn. any recommendations? im full con so this will take longer than normal
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>>149426232
HEHEHE you killed my character's build
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>>149426297
Who said anything about grinding on low level zones you retard? I'm talking about shit you just causally pickup while leveling through the quest hubs.
Did you not read a single thing I wrote? You can get enough money to buy your token before you even hit lvl90.

>sacrament carrys you until level 200+ by giving you 30 fucking extra damage roflmao loser
>doesn't know about sacrament + blessing
You can't be serious right? Also I said until level200, I never said 200+ you retard, if you want to quote someone learn to read.

Btw I got a battle bracelet when I was just questing through tenet. I bought my token and arde way before level90 get rekted faggot.
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>>149426538
a-alright....

...


hehehe
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>>149426350
He was talking about pedo accusations though, nothing about 3DPD.
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Hello mates, I want to hunt Gladiator Band Recipe

can I hunt it with a 228 WuguCannon? I mean can I dish out enough DPS for it to give me a cube?
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Let nigg back in the discord
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>>149426543
>>149426710
Biggest embarrassment of tosg.
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>>149426742
If you're early enough and your party members are composed properly, yes
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Which one is stro- easier to use for blasting people's head?
Necromancer or Musketter
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>>149426615
>You can get enough money to buy your token before you even hit lvl90.
used to be true, how long ago did you quit?
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>>149426548
Try archers or the mages as they have lower health.
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>>149426901
thank you mate.

Do Worlbosses spawn differently? or is it only 1 worldboss per 4 hours and youll have to find it?
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>>149420159
It's hilarious how the threadshitters spend ages yelling at him for not being serious about endgame competition, and now when he starts listening, they throw a tantrum. They really are terrified of the idea of a /tosg/ guild succeeding.
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>>149426934
Musketeer is much, much easier to use.

Flesh Cannon is super hard to aim and requires a CC to lock your target in place. And the damage is done kind of slowly, so if they move out of the CC somehow your damage stops and probably didn't do enough to kill anyone.
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>>149426934
Necromancer excels when the enemy is not moving much. (Thanks 2fps hoglan)

Musketer gives you a legitimate 1HKO if you build correctly, just a bit hard to snipe strafing enemies but at least you can kill those that are strafing.

Unlike Necromancer's Flesh cannon that takes quite a lot of time to throw those flesh bits.
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Do NOT acknowledge lolipantsu posts.
Recognize his (Pedro's) images.
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>>149427020
>he can't save up 600k by lvl90
>laughing whores
It still is true. Maybe not on your ded server.
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>>149424751

Not really, it would have came to this sooner or later.

We love to joke about autists on here but it's clear Loli is well... Which makes him really frustrating to deal with as a guild leader and face of /tosg/ as a whole since he's so oblivious, and also constantly unwittingly insults his own guild members publicly on here.

Like I don't really care too much personan\lly, it's just a cutesy Korean MMO, but it's no surprise that he's getting bullied on here, it's low hanging fruit, and it's no surprise that some more sensitive people are annoyed by him as this point, though I'd advise those people to chill the fuck out and remember you're getting triggered over some cutesy MMO.
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>>149427156
do people actually use windows 10?
does it even work with this game?
why would you subject yourself to that?
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>>149426934
This should illustrate what they're talking about. Flesh Cannon has a LONG delay.
>>149427091
>>149427154
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>>149426543
>clover has to team up with this cuck
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>>149426203
shouldn't he have said "allied powers" instead?

I mean, UN? what did he meme by this?
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> Can't decide between Cannoner, Necromancer or Musketeer
Which one is easier to use for blasting people's head on PvP?
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>>149427081
It's the execution. It lacks tact and is just some random demanding on guild members with no effort willing to be put in by the guild leader himself.

Heck all he had to do was copy katz 1 for 1 but he can't even do that without placing himself on a higher pedestal sounding like he's giving orders to everyone else.
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>>149427023
ill try archers again, the ones with 10X health have bigger spawn rates.
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>>149427342
Really dude? You got two replies and a fucking webm already.
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>>149427176
my typical income barring things like farming and really lucky drops for a level 90 is around 300k, tokens are now 650k.
i'm sure you have a secret (or you're full of shit) but it will not be the average for a character
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>>149427178
I'll hit and hit and hit you again to make you a +15 glowing Mia.
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>>149420159
Nobody likes you, Lolipantsu.
Fuck off, Lolipantsu.
Nobody cares. Go be a retard elsewhere, Lolipantsu. Fuck off.
Fuck off Lolipantsu.
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>>149424995
150 SPR at least.
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>>149427286
Thanks Rance

>>149427342
Musketeer is easier.
Cannoneer needs you to be sort of close to damage enemies but much easier to work with sneak hit due to the wide spread of the cannon blast in mid-range.
Necromancer works great on GvG battles where people go 2fpshoglan.
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>>149427178
>and remember you're getting triggered over some cutesy MMO.
No one is getting triggered over some cutesy MMO though, people are getting mad cause their guild leader is shit.
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>>149427342
Musketeer
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>>149427154
>>149427286
>>149427154
Thanks a lot for clearing the doubt on my mind anons.

>>149427342
>>149427385
Sorry it shows error when posting and i forgot to check the post again, and ended up creating another post.
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>>149427404

I'm not Mia, I just thought the ohayou edit was cute.
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>>149427241
We'll be forced to make the switch sooner or later. Might as well do it sooner.

>>149427359
Different people have different ways of doing things.

>>149427463
It's been a while since someone used this one. Reminds me, it's been a long time since the last time someone called me a blogposter.
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How do you guys level alts so fast?
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>>149425973
This, it takes a lot to really piss Rance off.
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>>149427750
Hi rance.
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>>149427694
>We'll be forced to make the switch sooner or later. Might as well do it sooner.
i never used 8 or vista, and at this rate i'll have a vtx-d ready computer before i need to switch. so, no we won't need to switch.
i'm really looking forward to never having a windows os as a main again though.
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swaaz here
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>>149427401
He is full of shit, he is even saying arde is nothing but an insignificant +150 damage buff tht won't help you much, when it's basically +450 damage to every single auto attack if you have cafrisun and sacrament, and +150 attack to every one of your multihit attacks.

And implying someone who doesn't know anything about the game is going to pro leet farm while leveling without any guidance and ignoring the whole game is infested with bots.
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>>149427694
>Different people have different ways of doing things.
Then don't make it sound like you're better than everyone else and they have to work more than you do just because you're the guild leader.
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>>149427359
>tact
>4chan
Where did a nigger like you come from?

>demanding on guild members
It's like you didn't even read the post. Even if he and katz secretly switched places you'd keep complaining. Of course, "be an exact clone of this completely different and unique person" is impossible to begin with. Just admit you don't want leadership, you just want drama.
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Official strawpoll about Lolipan.

http://www.strawpoll.me/10820364
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>>149428002
And when did I ever imply that?
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>>149428107
I dislike Lolipan.

And he posts like this for no discernible reason, which reeks of reddit.
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lolipan is a cool rode, doesnt crash channels and doesnt afraid of anything
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>Be Lvl 53
>Queue up for lvl 50 Dungeon
>Activates EXP tome
>Some guy rushes boss instead of grinding
>Happens twice in a row

Why is Telsiai a shit?
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>>149427401
>really lucky drops
That's pretty much it. You usually get one good drop by level90.

>>149427951
>taking my words out of context so you can shitpost
I said arde damage is insignificant WHEN COMPARED TO THE PREMIUM BENEFITS OF A TOKEN.
You're the only idiot who thinks an arde is more important than a token.
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>getting rid of inactives
>people who haven't log in for 20 days-2 months
>"Katz, how many of Day 1 Comfy members are left?"
>literally only 3 including me

I think this would be the last recruitment post for now. We have 7 new members and our remaining slots are less than 5.

Comfy is recruiting. We're in Telsiai, the SEA server.

We accept any levels. We can powerlevel you. We accept any classes. You play whatever you enjoy, and if you don't like it you can always reroll. We'll support you every step of the way. We accept both PvP and PvE-oriented players as long as you're active.

Members who were kicked or returning members not in the guild are welcomed to join back.

If there are any inquiries, let me know.
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>>149428107
There we have it, Lolipan is actually loved.

You can quit being emo now, we love you Lolipan. Don't listen to the cuck faggot hater reddit newfags. We would miss you if you left us.
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Memes out!
Cute in!
Bully out!
Cute in!
Drama out!
Cute in!
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>>149428352
t. lolipan
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Man, making builds is fucking annoying.

>>149427810
Nope, not him.
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>>149428069
>Where did a nigger like you come from?
Katz does it fine. What's wrong lolipan? Katz doesn't make these kinds of retarded posts. Katz actually tries to help people instead of demanding things of them.

>>149428153
How is this >>149420159 not
>I am better than everyone else the post
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>>149428339
i didnt ask for these feels....
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>>149427951
What are good monsters to grind at low levels? I've only grinded Yognomes/Egnomes for mithril since I needed to reach 50 from like 43 and the next place to get silver seemed to be Bee farm (full of AFKers) and Demon Prison which are 140 so it was worth grinding there. I want to make more accounts for possible multi-boxing and sharing with friends. Are Stone Orcas or whatever drops Vubbe fighter guantlets/blood worth exp grinding or are all the monsters near them too sparse to yield a nice exp/hr with possibility of expensive drops?
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>>149428002
Lolipan tries his best!

He might not be the best leader or whatever, but he's earnest and has a clear vision for his guild!

He also actually wants to actively PvP whenever possible unlike most of you. That's admirable!
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I want to marry Faery! Please be my husband!
>>
Every time there's a poll about leaders and shit, Lolipan is always at the top.

Do you think this autist is really so pathetic that he would proxy/vpn vote himself up?
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>>149428352
lol
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>>149428616
Lolipan can hardly run the game and stay connected, and is incredibly poor. He could not afford a reliable VPN.
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>>149428616
Well he's a BR so he's probably experienced having to proxy/vpn other things that aren't offered in his shithole land.
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>>149420159
>>149428339
Compare these 2 posts and tell me they are the exact same in terms of leadership. I dare you.
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Could anyone give me prices on maga spear, brandish, sage wall and/or glad band recipes?
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REMINDER
Lolipantsu immediately privated his profile while Kada left his public.
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>>149428814
>naruto avatar

I hate Kuckenberg now.
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>>149428814
>Malaysia

Make me more T-shirts!
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>>149428942
Kadafam is the strongest man in the world, not some ninja cuck
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>>149428942

>naruto

wew get it right anon
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>>149428581
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>>149428546
if you want money it's mostly drops like melinas, mithril, battle bracelet which you likely won't get as a lucky drop.
don't bother listening to disinfo poster.
if i had a multibox setup i'd probably take over at least one channel of tenet b1 or 2f with sorcs.
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>>149428494
What are you trying to refer to?
>we were unbeatable
Is the only part in there that would make any sense. This means you're coming from the perspective of an enemy guild. That makes it sound like you're not from here at all and you just came here to be butthurt over some guild war.

Or are you complaining about the part where he's spending his time having two separate meetings for different timezones and whispering stragglers individually? Is that how a leader acts "better than everyone else"?
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>>149428339
>comfy wars the fuck out of any pinoy guild
>always in a war yet they accept any class build any level
>lolipan only recruiting pvpers, can only bully small guilds, loses to big guilds
this has got to be a joke by now, someone tell me it is ;_;
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>>149428562
lolipan
>nah don't wanna help you it slows me down
>hey mind giving me 30m? no? it's a joke man
>not gonna be on much guys don't mind me
>pve? that's shit man. level 400 means you get better white items in 10 months. if you wanna do it whatever. i got a dungeon to rush

>>149428339
katz
>we help guild members
>we'll power level you let along questing together
>we love you and will do whatever. come let's have fun in pve or pvp!


i wish fucking katz was the leader of futureproof. people in futureproof are great but lolipan is a scumbag.
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>>149429391
You're not even trying senpai. >>149428708
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>untradable item also has a 1% drop rate locked behind a daily limit

Did a human design this game?
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wiz3pyro2sorc2sage
or
wiz3link1sorc1necro3

please advise
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as much as i'd like to continue shitposting about lolipan, it's late
night /tosg/!
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>>149428779
>doesn't post server
wew lad
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>>149429340
>if you want money it's mostly drops like melinas, mithril, battle bracelet which you likely won't get as a lucky drop.
>which you likely won't get as a lucky drop.
Didn't capyba get like 2 battle bracelets within 300 kills? and like tons of mithril.
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>>149429673
SUMIKAASHIT
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>>149429757
welcome to luck
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>>149429656
No. Koreans lost their human rights and claim to human dignity when they decided shit like this was okay.
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>>149429903
battle bracelets are dpk, not luck.
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>>149429602
>t. dvine
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>>149429340
>tells people arde is more important than a token
>calls other people misinfo poster
kek
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>>149429965
is dvine+katz the new loli+atom
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>>149428708
Kada is a family man, has charisma, experience and knows there's more to this games than just arbitrary numbers, he believes every block of the building must be strong to prevent the whole thing from falling down.

Loli is just some poor virgin student who can't even even replace his old exploding laptop from goodwill, and wasn't mean to lead a guild at all. But he had good intentions, he didn't want' to associate with the discord cliques and wanted to run a pvp oriented guild, at least he had the balls to level a templar and recruit people who shared his feelings towards the whole elitist clique that doesn't even want to associate with this general or this whole board nowadays, because they feel they're above everything (while their guilds are empty and no one gives a fuck about them anymore).

Obviously associating yourself with 4chan will bring you nothing but spergs/autists and entitled childs, who instead of venting their opinion to fix things will make a tantrum and quit wasting months of work and relationships instead of looking for a solution.

Obviously a leadership position needs someone very dedicated and knowledgeable about the game, or at the very least some officers who will take care of the guild activities and progression of the members on a daily basis, but it seems neither the leader, or the officers or the members cared about being a community and everyone just does their own thing and groups with the people they like (what a surprise like every fucking RO guild ever).

The good thing is the game has a chance of becoming alive with this pvp updates, I think there's a lot of good players scatered among the tosg/discord guilds, and they should be rallying under one banner if they actually want to acomplish something, because the fucking underaged anime guilds have more potential of mattering since they aren't as entitled as the cucks here crying about stuff they don't like rather than working out a solution.
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>>149430004
dvine is sucking both atoms and katz cock

he joined valhalla
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Just reached Gate Route on new toon

I skipped Rose but looks like I have to suck it up for this huh? I'm okay with every other quest in this game but those two are my least favorite.
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>>149430067
Dvine shitposts lolipan though, that's the opposite of cocksucking.
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>>149430187
I think my least favorite quest is all of them.
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>>149428779
>>149429681
I always assume its klai unless stated otherwise, i guess i should've pointed that out anyways
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>>149429602

Don't forget my favorite:

>LFM 200 Rush

Wonder why you never see any other guild leaders spamming shout? Maybe because they rush with their guildies?

Is it because FP members don't want to rush with him?
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>>149430067
doesn't matter. i'm an asshole or whatever but i'm not a scumbag who literally tells people to fuck off and then begs money. i give people what they give me and don't take them for a ride being a piece of shit never returning anything but constantly asking.
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>>149429669
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>>149430040
>tldr katz is better than lolipan
So basically exactly what I said.
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>>149429952
the good luck of getting there at the right time to take someone elses dpk
the bad luck of the dpk persons
etc. etc.

When you get down to it, 90% of things can be attributed to luck
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>tfw everyone is shitposting without you but you're not up to date on the tosg guildleader tier list
Evo really shook things up.
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Level 62 here! At what level should I actually start considering BUYING plate armor? I've just been using quest related ones up until now since I didn't see the point.
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>>149430336
you're just so mad

it's pretty pathetic

can't you drop it already? you're looking like a real shitter lately, I used to think you were alright
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>>149430373
Yes but Kada is on Sea, and he has his own struggles to deal with.

I do believe Lolipan is the last bastion of hope for this community to be relevant in GvG, simply because he is the only one willing to be associated with it, the rest don't even identify with this thread anymore and just use it as a means of communication with the people who don't join discord.
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Well I'm 100 and I don't feel like running through a gorillion maps again. Does the leveling get better soon or when and is it consistently good or am I going to be running a gorillion maps again for the most part to 240ish?
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>>149430563
dvine secretly loves Lolipan thats why hes trying his best to get acknowledge by him calling out for his name every time he has the chance to post
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HoneyBingo? Licorice? Cawfee?

Evergarden...?
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>>149430540
170 is a good time to do it since they are cheap and there's a power spike on some enemies by that point.
Cafrisun+arde also starts mattering less by that point and it's better to buy aspersion than blessing buff.
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>>149430563
t.lolipan
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>>149430724
>tfw used to occasionally group with Coffee, Ohayou, and Chalaa and now they're all gone

You guys were lots of fun, wish you'd all come back
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>>149428814
>shitmonkey of the Western world
>shitmonkey of the Eastern world
Holy shit fuck off shitskins where is the /pol/ guild?
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>>149430724
>tfw colorblind and never watched euphorium so dont really recognise the character and thought that this post was evergarden
>>149400089
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>>149430040
>the game has a chance of becoming alive with this pvp updates
hahahahaha
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>>149430692
the latter, have fun
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>>149430724
honeybingo: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Quizdonkey
licorice: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197960321349/
cawfee: idk
evergarden: http://steamcommunity.com/id/dentalflosh
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>>149429340
Multiboxing to farm constantly is boring. I just wanted to do it to level up multiple characters at the same time and save time. Maybe I'd do it after the first classes get up but it'll probably take too long for me to do it.
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>>149430796
coffee: http://steamcommunity.com/id/atchiro
ohayou: http://steamcommunity.com/id/bombded
chalaa: idk
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>LoliPantsu is a Pedro

I'm only trusting boy characters from now on.
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>>149429669
Second one
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>>149430874
After doing the 4 daily dungeon runs I just afk'd browsing the internet and have been at the server select screen for the past 2 hours. And I didn't do enough research past multiple hours into my build and because of a maybe 5-10 points misspent I have to ultimately reroll to be useful. I think I'm done hopefully they boost exp drastically or something in the future.
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>>149425429
pls anons
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>>149430635
> do believe Lolipan is the last bastion of hope for this community to be relevant in GvG
>Lolipan last hope for everything
Loli is a guild leader of the worst tier.
If you think he is last hope for this community then you have a problem
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>Stare at the character builder
>Feel sick
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>>149430635
t. lolipan. nobody actually thinks this seriously after reading how his toaster broke and he's gonna only do 200 dungeon rushes in gchat while every other guild could get a war but us.

>>149430723
i told him i don't consider him a friend privately basically after i rejoined when he didn't help me then asked me for money.
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>>149430528
Tier hasn't changed
Katz>everyone else>>>>Lolipan who is becoming a worse leader each day
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>>149431667
then who?
All the other leaders think this thread is filled with nothing but spergs and manchildren, maybe even loli thinks that as well, but at least he doesn't care, he is enforcing a /tosg/ members only rule unlike the rest.

They do all their business through discord, and keep laughing at how horrible this place is. They haven't even shared their translated patch notes for swordsman with the people here, they feel the users of this board are just plebeians, they're more leddit than /tosg/ by now.

I'm not saying he is great or anything, but what alternative is there? CNL is full or almost full, Clover is full, FOE is dead, and they don't even like the people from here.
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Are we going to get five fucking dungeon runs or are we going to be stuck with what we've got for no reason?

This is really making me upset.
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>>149432227
I don't even do any of my 9 dungeon runs anymore.
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>>149432227
hehehehehehehhe
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>>149432349
Back into the darkness!
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>>149432079
Lolipan just needs to spend some time in the lab and I'm sure he'll show us some crazy new things.
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>use !! BEEP BOOP BEEP
>people report me thinking im a bot
>I get banned
>submit ticket
>I get 15 day Token and x5 Dungeon Reset scroll 4 hours later

o-ok
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>>149432634
>use !! BEEP BOOP BEEP
>get permabanned because violating the rule about spreading confusion among playerbase
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Holy fuck people, you've been bitching about guilds the entire fucking thread.
Someone just fucking make another guild and gather the people who are clearly fucking upset at however whichever guild is ran.
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>blood pressure is extremely high
if i die before this game i'm gonna be seriously pissed off
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Is Kabbalist purely just for PvP7fold katana?
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>>149433201
Seems like two people or so are samefagging
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>>149433281
>it was all dvine all along
>he could actually use grammar the whole time but didn't, building himself a shield for this samefagstorm
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>>149431631
If it's just skill points you can get a skill reset potion. The scavenger event seems like it's giving out TP, so you can hope it pays for your reset potion.
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>>149429904
We dropped two atom bombs on them before, I say we drop a third.
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>>149432634
Why the hell would people report someone for !! beep boop beep? That makes no fucking sense.
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If I become a derbydoctor, will I still get accepted into all grind parties and pve?
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Not rolling a Kabalist was a mistake
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>>149433229
RIP in pieces.

>>149433616
>korea is japan
Kids should stay in school, also you have to be 18 to post.
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>>149433201
Sure, go waste at least 150+hours of your life just so you make another fail haven for shitposters who hate this game, this board, this world, this life and feel they're better than everyone else.
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>>149433442
>88points
Seems unlikely but who knows. I'll be logging in daily for the event at least until the end though so we'll see after that I suppose.
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A Dragoon is fine too
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>>149433886
>goon turned into a cuck that buffs doppels
>lancer and doppel shits all over goon at r8

I feel bad for them. They don't even get that cool dragoon hat, either
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>mfw people in ktos is freaking out about the Dragoon c2's new 1 CON debuff
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>>149428339
>only the wizards stayed
Coincidence, or?
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>>149433747
That sounds exactly like lolipan.
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>>149434004
>every new rank from now on will have classes that completely shit on the previous rank
All builds will now be 1 class circle per rank. We'll all turn into costume builds soon enough.
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is the AH limit on items per character or per account
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With R8, has Corsair c2 become nothing more than a meme?
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HAHAHAHAHA

Swordcucks, put on a rod and use whirlwind. It fucking kills anything in one hit.

GJ IMC
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>>149428339
Tfw the SEA guild doesn't post or name-drop much because they were busy actually having f-fun?
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>>149433739
>korea is japan

They look the exact fucking same, quit dwelling over small details.
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>>149434591

And IRL too!

We actually post a lot on this thread anonymously regarding builds, news, etc. Occasionally, shitposting as well but that's mostly Katz and the Australians of Comfy.
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Do Chaplain and Priest bonus hits/damage stack on all hits including skill hits and ticks or just auto-attacks?
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how do i upgrade my sorcerer cards? i know you have to feed it other cards, but where do i do that?
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>>149434816
>Australians
Of course it has to be them.
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>>149434731
>They look the exact fucking same
You need an eye exam.
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>>149434853
sitdown/rest>card synth
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>>149435007
So you're telling me if you got a chinaman and a korean and covered their eyes you would be able to tell them apart?
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>>149434816
Woa I'm sure they got into ToS cosplays afterwards and fucked each other until they lost consciousness.

Why can you arrange IRL meetings lolifail?
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Sooo... Rank 7 gem?
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>>149434816
>australians
ADELAIDE
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>>149434816
This is something that kills guilds. I've been in so many guilds with a circlejerk of people who know each other in real life that always ends in disaster.

People who aren't in the inner circle end up leaving like >>149428339 and the inner circle wonders what went wrong as their guild ends up so dead that it doesn't even have enough people for a raid.

Maybe it'll end up different for you guys since ToS will never ever have endgame and people seem to be fine with stagnation. Either way, that's a red flag to stay away.
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>>149434516
what?
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>>149433616
I'm kind of embarrassed to be living in the same country as you. People like you make us seem like ignorant retards.
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>>149435301
Very likely.
If not I'll get them to speak.
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>>149435664
Why the fuck do you care about what a bunch of muslims and liberals think of you? Regardless, people who judge a person based on his country aren't people you should want to associate with anyway.
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>>149435623
YES

DOOMPOST MORE

YES
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>>149435664
build the wall!
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>>149435153
thank you
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>>149435850
>doompost
>over a post like that
You do realize this isn't your safe space, right? 4chan is not a place that you should expect positivity.

Regardless, kill yourself.
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>>149428339
I'm still alive faggot.
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>>149435997
YES

MORE

DOOMPSOT MORE

OH YES
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>>149435975
>implying china don't have atom bombs
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>>149428779
>>149428779
>>149428779
anyone? klai btw
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>>149436089
1m, 2m, 3m, 4m respectively
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>>149436075
so?

we are always 10 steps ahead of them, they invent the atom bomb??? we invent the nuke!

bye bye japan
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>>149436089
they only sell on BR facebook blackmarket groups
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>>149436279
>"""""""""we"""""""""""
You retards are currently getting carried by a superior minority who will be replaced by libcuck niggers in the next few generations while China creates genetically modified superhumans.
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>>149435623

From my experience, Comfy really doesn't have any circlejerk or cliques. We try to be as inclusive as possible. Someone can just join Comfy day 1 as a fresh scrub, gets summoned by Katz to do WB like crabs and get cubes.

If they're online and not talking, we even call them by name. "Hey ____, you there? We got a slot for crabs you wanna come with?"

And nobody gets ignored on Comfy. If no one else can answer the question, we'd ask them to ask the thread and discuss with the answers given here together in the guild chat.
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>>149436393
why are you bringing china into this?

we talking about korea
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>>149436497
im becoming more and more depressed reading how nice this guild is
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>>149428339
>Still playing this shit game
>Still in same guild
>Guild master posts a screenshot and crosses out people who have quit
>Not even in his picture to begin with
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>>149436551
>>149434731
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>>149436442
based taste
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>>149436703
Now you're just being racist
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>>149434834
Anyone? Trying to see if they're useful for elememes. Also how does Aspersion level affect Aspergillium? Can't seem to find an exact formula.
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>>149436604
That's why people doompost due to being eternal cucks
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>>149436604
Can you say you'd be able to do the same, reach out the people in your guild? You could very well lead by example and act the same in any other /tosg/ guild, instead you just wallow in self-pity.
Fag.
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>>149436617

>tfw I confused Clavell with Eternial

Sorry Clavell, I didn't have screenshots with names on them.
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>>149436772
Basically, what Aspergillium does is to "cast" an aspersion everytime you hit an aa. Ofc It doesn't cast it like the Aspersion buff, It just throws the holy water, and the same damage you do when you cast aspersion (and it splashes) now it's applied to every AA.
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>Trying to tinker with sword builds
>They all seem to require at least c2 sword and all lend to being bulky as fuck
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I miss that one person.
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>>149436841
i dont like leading sheep
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literally nobody uses c2 sword besides shitnobi and theory crafted pvp builds
r8 classes will have aoe stuns so sword2 has its days limited
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>>149437097
It's going to be okay, ohayou-poster
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>>149437125
I wasn't talking about leading a guild, but how you behave in one.
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Whats the ktos change on concentrate anons?
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>>149437236
im not in a guild
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>>149436921
Only auto-attacks then? Damn was hoping just to buff up some elememes.
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>>149437345
Sacrament and Last Rites damage both apply to every single damage line. Aspergellum is a self-buff that let's your auto attack apply your current level of Aspersion when you hit a target.
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>>149437335
Are you retarded?
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>>149436617

There I fixed it

>>149436017

Sorry Megi, Aireze
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Is Elkosh cloth set currently the highest mdef equipment?
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>>149437530
i dont have a pvp char, and i dont donate talt.
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>>149437604
Lolopanther and Virtov beats it.

>>149437530
It's dvine, what were you expecting? Guy is more immature than Lolipan.
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>>149437576
That's better. But is Kitty still alive really?
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>>149437215
Guessing you were replying to me.
I was talking more the bare minimum for that Restrain crap, but even 40% at c3 feels too RNG for me to want to use.
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>>149437497
Well auto-attack and P.def seems to scale for shit so Aspersion/Aspergillium seem pretty useless. Maybe worth 1 point in Aspersion so you can focus on better skills.
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>>149420159
>This attracted a specific group of people and, for quite some time, we were unbeatable.
>this is what Lolicuck ACTUALLY believes
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>>149438042
>focus on better skills
Like what? Maxing Mass heal?
Aspergillium+Maxed Aspersion+Arde+Cafri+an all those shits can give you a well earned 2K dmg line for you aa, leveling is also waaay easier.
So unless you have a party for Questing/Leveling, Maxed Aspersion is worth it.
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>>149438341
Aspersion damage scales poorly with level. Mass Heal, Revive, Blessing > Aspersion
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>>149438686
Play the game.
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>>149438738
Show your 280 Chaplain.
You can't
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>>149438686
You can't be serious
>Max Mass Heal
That shit isn't even worth it, any Cleric2 should be very happy with his 10/10 Heal
>Max Revive
Well, this could be for a full support, except that you give this shit either 1 point or 5, because the point of the skill is to avoid 1 shots, not healing, Heal will do and Mass Heal with 1 point is enough
>Max Bless
I thought this was obvious, Max Bless is a must now.
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>>149437758
>>149437530
i don't know what this is but i'm in a guild called valhalla. i didn't make a guild cause i get .50 fps gvg/world boss and don't take people for a ride where they feel let down afterwards. it's a big step and i won't take it easily not cause sheep or anything. it's cause bee and necromancer autism have to be tripled and then applied to it. stop trying to falseflag me cause i'd power level people using pelt3, squire, and templar summoning and do whatever it takes to be good. how the fuck am i the type to beg people for money like lolipan and offer nothing?
>>
PORCUPINEE!!!
>>
Any Varenafags here who needs a guild?
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>>149438738
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>>149438916
>this could be for a full support
Priest3Chaplain is a support no matter how you look at it. It's not a dps class, not even a hybrid dps healer like DievDruid. Maxing Mass Heal and Revive actually helps your party unlike Aspersion. If you're taking about PvE, then Aspersion as a buff can be purchased from Pardoners and not only that, Stone Skin is more than enough damage mitigation against physical attacks.
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>>149439024
dvine shut the FUCK up

your posts make me lose brain cells holy SHIT

you were the cancer of FP, I bet they're all happy you're gone

fuck off an quit ToS again, nobody wants you here you miserable sack of shit
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>>149439125
>Gives bad advice about a class he doesn't even play
>Tells other people to play the game
Still waiting on that Chaplain :^)
>>
So, is Karga a pinoy?
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>>149439182
if you just paid and experienced my customer service then you wouldn't be so angry. sorry somebody left you high and dry so you're venting but that's never an experience you have after we work together.
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>>149439306

He is.
>>
I want to build myself to be a massive fuck you to a single target (or a couple).
Cata the best bet for this with impale?
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>>149439429
Musketeer, Wugushi, Fletcher
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>>149439125
Goodbye Hat
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>>149439429
Is your single target a boss? Then you want fletcher?

Is your single target a monster or a player? You want Hunter.
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>>149439143
People should take Maxed Aspersion while questing and leveling, most people don't have a 100% leveling party so the only time they can use their support skills is in either a dungeon, dg mission or in PvP.
Most of the time they'll be focused on leveling, and a decent Aspergillium with a max asp is pretty nice and helps quite a lot.
Just when you reach higher level and you're more involved in parties and needed as a support, you can consider in taking a skills reset potion and change your skills for a 10/10 Revive and other things.
But while you're questing and advancing in the game, you'll be soloing most maps, and DPS form Aspergillium is needed
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>>149439429
Fletcher for consistent huge damage
Musketeer for huge burst damage
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>>149439429
Impaler sucks for anything that isnt PvP
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>>149439424
Why is he a Pinoy?
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>>149439306
>>149439424
>karga is the SEAcuck that was memeing about staying on klaipedo instead of transfering to telsiai
>he's now killing himself cause he's stuck on a ded server with lolicuck instead of being on the best server with the best tosg guild
>>
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>>149439474
>>149439515
>>149439563
>>149439623
I'm talking about PvP.
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Is Cattly for sale?
>>
sword 1 pelt 1 barbarian 2 corsair 3 shinobi 1

y/y?
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is this game fun yet?
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>>149440314
>pelt 1
you passed, you're welcome at my party anytime
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>>149440380
It's always been fun!
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>>149440434
Don't post ohayou squidgirl when shitposting fucker.
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>>149440380
If you were not having fun before, then you probably never will. If you're talking about the lags/delays and stuff, it still happens but rarely (maybe it's still a thing on Telsiai and Varena though)
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>>149440143
No fuck off
He's immesurably valuable! I doubt someone as low-quality as yourself could ever dream of affording him!
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How do i have fun as purely f2p player?
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>>149440515
Looks like someone's grumpy!
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>>149440057
Cata
Krivis Druid
Sorcerer
Warlock
Musketeer
Cannoneer

You get the idea
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>>149440621
save up 800000 shekels and become p2p
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>>149440057
Do the Atom build

Sword3 Cata3 Dragoon
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Shoulda crashed the channel instead
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>>149439667
He was born that way?
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>Katz telling stories about the past
>how he wardec all of Klaipeda including cute, Clover and Aistra
>his duel with Karga
>how he and Lolipan were friends back in icbt2 and grinded together

How much more shounen can this guy be?
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What's better for pvp? Diev or Priest PD?
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>>149440739
>Krivis Druid
>Sorcerer
>Warlock
>Musketeer
>Cannoneer
Absolutely none of these even remotely fit what I'm talking about.
I don't mean the ability to nuke a target down, I mean to make one person fucking hate everything because they can't do shit.

>>149440836
>Sword3
Doesn't sound fuck you enough, 40% stun chance isn't enough.

>>149440945
>They walk in and just die
Amazing.
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>>149441429
>I mean to make one person fucking hate everything because they can't do shit.
some cryokino bullshit is what you're looking for
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>>149441429
>40%
Multihits are a thing, and and it's about the twelve second slow that comes after too, no escape
Getting buffed to 60% real soon, that's 78% with Durandal + Restrain gem
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>>149441467
Nah, Cryo is boring and that's more AoE stuff.
I like the idea of Cata if impale allows me to walk off with my chosen bitch to shove my spear up their ass in private.
I want people to see this character and want to focus me first.
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>>149440945
what exactly is killing them? Kirito went from 100 to zero but you're not FCing anything. Is it just the Skeletons or did a TS belong to one of them.
>webm for potatos
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>>149441626
How about you look at the skill list and decide for yourself?
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>>149441678
Thauma bugged shoggoth + skeletons
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>>149441721
oh I thought you were using that bug
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I finally got to R7(Warlock), but I have no idea what to do now.

Since my items are all shit, I think should be wise to go look for better shit since I get oneshotted by everything now, since for example, I'm still using Rokas Robe.

Which items should I work on? I have no idea what to use from now on, someone in game told me to look for Roxona Gears, but they're 170(still better than the ones that I have actually), is that even worth? Which armor set should I look for, and also weapon just a Superior Corona Rod or should I try look for something else?

I have around 15m that I managed to save while leveling alone, but if I have the option to farm for it, I'll go.
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>>149441429
To answer your question, it's hunter. Pet CC/damage that prevents any actions and is irremovable. Throw in scout for invisibility for first hits and ganks as well as the fact that a few hunter skills can be used without breaking stealth.
Musketeer to ensure kills while your pet holds them real fuck-like and snipes out of stealth.
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>>149441749
I am a thauma so yeah
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>>149440945
HAAH

WAAW
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>>149441619
I guess that makes sense.
I dunno what would be good for c7 though.
Corsair seems alright for the hook, but that depends on if you can move/attack with them shanked or not.
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>>149440945
>500k hp
>20k attack Shoggoth that ignores pvp reduction
What the fuck was Desu thinking?
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>>149441752
Aim for plate sets with some magic amp on gloves, or full plate. Grynas or Roxona are the go-to sets, and try to get Aspersion buffs. I think a highly-upgraded Corona rod good as well.
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>>149440945
what's your normal Stat distribution like?
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>>149442024
They've been ganking afk farmers all day at bees
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>>149441098
>how he wardec all of Klaipeda including cute, Clover and Aistra
I still remember that shit and people making fun of him in the threads for it. It was hilarious.
But then he still came around to making a guild on telsiai and became the best tosg guild leader.
This is how you redeem yourself, watch and learn lolipan.
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>>149442024
>saw a thauma
>it's a /tosg/
>assume it's not a dirty bug exploiter and fight it
>lose
Pretty stupid for them
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>>149442164
Exactly what I'm talking about
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>>149441819
Nah, that just doesn't fit what I want.
I already have a funter anyways.
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>>149442035
So roxona > grynas? Alright, gonna look for some Roxona things on market, and try the grynas thing when I get to 240, thanks.

And subweapon / shield? I'm using karkacha atm, should I change to something else?
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>>149441986
No sense in hook when you want stay mobile and don't really have much in the way of long combos as a Cataphract, dragoon > lancer is still a better bet.
However that Hunter build fits the bill perfectly

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3112289g.1a284a5161.122a3a41516571.14213545..152535

R6 is whatever you want it to be. Rogue for capture and sneak hit (standing behind players being held by your pet will cause it to shit crits), Archer C3 for more archer crap, Hunter 3 for more retrieve damage and duration, and so forth.
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>>149442139
and katz didn't even make any excuses when he realised he fucked up, he admitted he was a dumbass without resorting to blaming something else.
lolicuck always has some kinda excuse for everything
>muh carebear server
>muh imc killed guild wars
>muh suck atom dick so he will pvp us
if you want to know the difference between a man and a cuck just look at katz and lolicuck.
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>>149436617
why am i not there.
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>>149442428
Grynas > Roxona
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>>149442410
There is no better single target PvP "fuck you" build. Sorry.
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>>149439143
These are my thoughts. I can't find a damage formula to Last Rites though. Sacrament adds shit damage to skills (40), Blessing adds nothing to skills, and Aspergillum is only a self-buff it seems. Depending on how much damage Last Rites adds could significantly boost multi-hit skills like meme cloud, which in turn make Chaplain much better. Still having to google alot and can't find something yet. Capella seems nice to full-time Stoneskin but having to move in and out of the range to refresh it every 15-35 seconds is pretty shit. And from what I read the only problems at end-game are magic damage, so Aspersion and Stoneskin aren't even that useful?
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>>149442551
And it still isn't the kind of fuck you I'm talking about.
The idea of being able to run in and yank some bitch entirely out of the fight (either taking them away to 1v1 or dragging them into your party to get burst down) is what I'm looking for.
Not some "I press a couple buttons and this dude dies to burst" junk used by cowards to either gank or take someone out of position out of the fight.
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>>149442059
Everything INT
Except for 1 CON
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>lesser panda box is 20k points in the team battle shop
>it would take 400 days of playing to finally buy it
>this is only if you win all of those matches
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>>149442963
Please understand
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>>149442845
>be hunter
>hit retrieve
>hit hounding
>run into your party
>pet suddenly drags your target at the speed of light towards you to get fucked
How is this not the "fuck you" you are looking for?
Retrieve + hounding makes it so your pet drags your target back extremely fast. It's a bug that IMC is aware about but hasn't fixed yet, they mentioned it in one of the previous QAs.
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>>149442880
Why the 1 con?
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>>149442963
I thought you could keep doing matches until you got all the points for the day.
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>>149442992
>It's a bug that IMC is aware about but hasn't fixed yet, they mentioned it in one of the previous QAs.
That bug is annoying and I'll be glad when it's fixed, because it allows even shit that can't dragged to be pulled when I don't want them to.
Plus Cata gives direct control of where I'm dropping this target.
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>>149443028
I was playing around with the transpose bug and thought, since the stats are made permanent while you're in the channel I might get some bonus points. So I click to level up INT, and it increases INT by 1 point, but when I look at stats invested it actually invested Into CON.
So yeah the builds tainted
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>>149443184
and how helpful is the thaum 2?
would it be fucked if instead you only had thaum 1 + sorc1/linker1?

I'm guessing you picked it for pvp reversi?
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>>149442428
Venom might be good for the extra HP, otherwise Karacha is fine
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>>149443365
Yeah, when we were fighting Valhalla back then I thought we really needed that spell for the guild.

really fell in love with this build though, not even because of the bug

Duelling and fighting with reversi and transpose is really fun
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>>149434463
corsair is currently getting fucked with r8, because:

1. lancer is mounted, and corsair skills don't work on mount

2. murmillo is shield based, and corsair's entire thing is dual-wielding

that being said, c1 is still useful for lolipan pvp builds. c2 at this point feels pretty hollow, and if you committed to corsair that much, you might as well finish off with c3 and just have it be a fully committed farming character, potentially getting c1 doppel at r8. yes, I realize taking an r6 class at r8 is hilarious. I also realize that there's really no other option for c2/c3 corsairs. corsairs have been completely fucked by the new r8 classes. even dragoon 2 seems like it will be lackluster, so corsairs that finished c2 corsair with c1 dragoon don't really have much to look forward to with r8 dragoon c2.
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>>149442446
The last one is true, but other pvp guilds collapsed and quit left and right. IMC really did fuck up.
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>>149443710
Yeah,GvG was killed by neutrality and limit on wardec together
Neutrality alone was already a mistake but wardec limits was the worst thing ever done to ToS PvP which was already unrewarding shit
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>>149443705
make corsair skills work with shinobi, there class is saved
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Considering the strength buffs coming in a few days in addition to the concentrate scaling buff, how's this looking so far?
I have no idea how double slash is and if it might be worth getting with a point in thrust for that bleed attribute (which sounds kinda neat with enough strength anyways, even if something like bleed is probably easy to be rid of)
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1111777.23334d566a7a.112d3f415a65
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>>149444049
>corsair skills work with shinobi
you have no idea how broken that is, theres a very good reason only shit skills like double slash works with bushin you know anon.

Do you even know how stronk spear lunge hexen would be if it works with bushin?
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>>149443529
how do you heal when you transpose?
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Why is this general so popular? I want a new MMORPG since P99 is starting to decline and I am looking a this.

How is PvP?

How is PvE?

How is Solo?

How is overall fun?

Do you think this game will be around in a few years or just another transient game doomed to fall out of favor in a few months?

What do you like about the game?

What do you dislike about the game?

Any crippling P2W or kike bullshit?
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>>149444080
>maxed pommel beat
you can reroll now
>non-maxed concentrate when it scales with level
you can reroll now
>didn't max double slash when went c3 sword
you can reroll now

Has it been pushed into your brain that you literally understand nothing at all?
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>>149444096
>IMC's quality control division rewards kToS with nerfs belt
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>>149444215
>Has it been pushed into your brain that you literally understand nothing at all?
Has it pushed into your brain that I am asking for advice?
But nope, just going to spout bullshit and not explain why something is wrong and how to fix it and act like a cancer.
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>>149444124
so you want corsair to be strong, but you don't want it to be THAT strong, what do you want anon? make up your mind, are you a woman?
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>>149444124
>Do you even know how stronk spear lunge hexen would be if it works with bushin?

about as strong as elememes already are? phew, we can't have that now, you're right.
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>>149444287
>advice
>spout bullshit
>act like cancer
this is not your safe zone, no-one gives a shit about you, you should be happy I even gave you some advice you piece of garbage
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>>149444382
le not your safezone meemee...
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>>149444382
>I'm going to act like a faggot just because I can
Did you not get enough sleep last night anon?
Or are you assuming I'm someone I most likely am not and you haven't reached the namedropping point yet?
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>>149444431
"waah waah why are the kids being mean to me mom"
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>>149444212
>Why is this general so popular?
It is?
>How is PvP?
shit
>How is PvE?
shit, most of it full of gamebreaking bugs also exploitable under the sun and no fucks given
>How is Solo?
Good but solo is the cancer killing MMO,fuck off
>How is overall fun?
After you accept all the restrictions imposed on you it's fun, kinda
>Do you think this game will be around in a few years or just another transient game doomed to fall out of favor in a few months?
It's already dying, next patch brings a lot of shit but the damage was done already.
Game will die around winter at this rate
>these marketing questions
Fuck off, i shouldn't even gave the (You)
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>>149444212
>How is PvP?

2fps nightmare

>How is PvE?

mindnumbingly boring

>How is PvE?

mindnumbingly boring, and also eventually you'll want to join grind groups

>How is overall fun?

there is none

>Do you think this game will be around in a few years or just another transient game doomed to fall out of favor in a few months?

the game is already dying, you came at the wrong time. you should have been here maybe 3 months ago if you wanted to experience it while it was still alive.

>What do you like about the game?

nothing at this point. I'm held hostage by my friends/people I play with, so I can't quit right now.

>What do you dislike about the game?

bugs, fps issues, server issues, bad balance, exploits and the fact that literally everyone is currently exploiting, bad maps and pve, do you really want me to continue because I can keep going..

>Any crippling P2W or kike bullshit?

not officially, but everyone RMTs to get ahead, so unless you're willing to spend way more time than everyone immersed in the neet life to try to keep up, then you'll likely fall way behind.
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>>149444581
>it is?
Not that anon but this is one of the most popular generals that consistently stays on the front page and has over 100 unique ips constantly meaning its not just a few circle jerkers, if it wasn't for this general half the people here wouldn't have started playing
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>>149444581
anon with the money from wolf Knights they will rehire their good designers and programmers and ToS will be great again.
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>>149444683
Fuck off Kim
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>>149444683
>good designers and programmers
>Korea
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When's the main time people queue for missions? It's always much harder to get them than rushes.
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>>149443154
Yea actually I dislike the bug too, but it's exactly what the previous poster wanted. Knowing IMC, that bug will take forever to fix, if they even know how to fix it in the first place.
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>>149444212
>How is PvP
unbalanced with some pvp classes dominating the scene, gvg is fucked due to 2fps
>How is PvE
pretty fun, there's 200 levels of questing if you like questing or/and you can grind
Both are viable which helps satisfy both types (sorta)
Issue is however that endgame parties need very specific classes which if you're not part of means you're relying on friends or welfare parties
>How is solo
You can solo to 260ish since I've done it but I seriously recommend against it, you solo at around 1/2 to 3/4 the exp rate of a party or even less after you finish the kill counts/exp/other card givers
>Do you think this game will be around in a few years
Went down from 50k to around 14k peak each day now, its already in slight decline and this isn't even about mmo hype train member reduction. Its still got above average amounts of people (e.g. more than games like archeage) but its not going to be the next wow or lol.
>what do you like about the game
the community
>any crippling p2w
no company endorsed p2w thats very effective however the rmt silver buying is a pretty big divide
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Reaching 75 soon and kind of want to farm varv skins for beetleback (or buy).

What is the best place to farm them and how long will this shield last me? Until Aias or w/e?
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>>149444212
>How is PvP?
1v1 is a contest who chose the right class. gvg is whoever gets 1 more fps wins
>How is PvE?
u press stuffs and mobs die. then you get to 200 and start joining parties while everyone press stuffs. mobs die
>How is Solo?
levels 1 to 200 is solo. its even faster to do quest in solo instead of waiting your stupid party around
>How is overall fun?
chartacters are cute and we like to ERP a lot
>Do you think this game will be around in a few years or just another transient game doomed to fall out of favor in a few months?
probably ded in 2 months unless something really good happens, but naaaaah knowing its IMC we will probably die
>What do you like about the game?
cute stuffs, autism theorycrafting
>What do you dislike about the game?
guild drama where literally only three people care about desu or guild war or whaterver
>Any crippling P2W or kike bullshit?
rmt
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>>149444970
Check monster raw attacks against your def with aspersion.
If you start taking more than 1 damage thats when you switch out your shield.

Probs will last you till 170 or maybe 220 before you swap.
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>>149444212
>Why is this general so popular?
It's still a fairly new game.

>How is PvP?
No experience myself yet, but I hear the GvG is meh due to neutrality. The arena isn't out here for another couple days, so who knows how the meta there will be.

How is PvE?
Meh. It's quest based mainly, but you get cards instead of flat exp. Dungeons are bleh for exp after around 130 and become only worth doing for chances at rolling rare drops (bosses drop cubes, you roll the cube for a drop. Good shit has a fucking awful drop rate)
There's also a flat 2 (3 with token) dungeon limit per day. Apparently korea has 5, but who knows if we'll get that with the upcoming patch or not

How is Solo?
Easyish. Depending on your build it might start sucking after a while or it might be piss boring for a fair bit.

How is overall fun?
It's alright.
Leveling isn't really hard, so it's easy to watch something and kinda zone out while doing it.

Do you think this game will be around in a few years or just another transient game doomed to fall out of favor in a few months?
Probably the latter at the rate it's currently going. Who knows though, these events and updates might bring new life.

What do you like about the game?
It's cute, relaxing, and has a nice variety in classes.

What do you dislike about the game?
Companions take up character slots, a mistake in a build means rerolling, and getting dungeon drops is absolute ass.

Any crippling P2W or kike bullshit?
Not majorly, the main thing is the token which gives a lot of benefits, but can be bought from people in game.
Enchant scrolls are probably the closest to p2w right now, but they can be rarely rolled from cubes and the current events are giving out a fair bit.
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>>149444865
I am the guy who's been asking about this though, and it really isn't.
I don't really want to be able to just blow up a person. it's more I want to be in control. I want to be something people want to kill, but really can't.
I dunno, maybe I'm explaining it poorly or just don't really know what I actually want, but hunter definitely isn't it, if only because I already have a hunter3.
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>>149432182
tfw when foe keeps talking about what happens on the thread ALL THE TIME
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>>149442719
Okay from what someone is saying online Last Rites works just like Sacrament except 25% stronger (or 50% @ HP<40%). So basically Sac11 + Last Rites = 44+66= 110 total holy property attack. Also just testing myself Blessing does add to skill damage so I don't know about that "additional damage only being for auto-attacks" phrase. So Lv16 Blessing gives 74, full attribute gives 100, and the coming buff at Lv280 with 250SPR invested gives 290, totalling Blessing damage bonus to ALL attacks at 464. Adding Blessing with Lv11 Sacrament and Last Rites gives 464+110 = 574 bonus damage to all attacks, and all attacks also become Holy (no resistances).

How much damage does Meme Cloud do though? I don't have any experience with it, though from the formula at character Lv280 it should do about 1800 per tick assuming 0 mdef. Elemental property bonus is accounted by attribute bonus damage, but additional damage from blessing is not. So assuming a Lv50 Attribute in Meme cloud, the damage comes out to (1800+110)*1.5 + 464 = 2865 + 464 = 3329 per tick. With no Priest/Chap, Meme Cloud does 2700/tick, so it's a 23% damage boost. Last Rites also makes all damage Holy, so it's never resisted and does double damage on dark types.

23% bonus to your elememe isn't bad, and being able to full-time Stoneskin with the kind of gimmicky Capella is a thing too. But still most of the damage comes from Blessing (464dmg, 15 skill points+50attribute), versus Sacrament+Last Rites(165-198dmg, 11-15 skill points and a Circle). Chaplain essentially only adds 66 from Last Rites and full-time Stoneskin gimmick. Still none of the damage scales.

I think it's better to dump points in heal/res/rev/stoneskin as Priest and still put 1 in sac/rites but not for their damage but holy damage and dark resist. And most of the Blessing damage is from attribute + the SPR/INT buff so it only needs 3 points for attributes.

Fuck I have to reroll or get a skill reset. Thanks Kim. I guess this is it for me.
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>>149446360
So many things wrong with what you're saying I don't know where to start.
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>>149442719

Sacrament alone adds 102 damage/tick on a QC'd lv 70 attribute meme cloud, and that ticks 33 times, not that bad....
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I wanna kill people but there's nobody to kill.
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>>149444512
le offensive /pol/ack mimi...
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>>149444215
Haha!
Play the game
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>>149447105
well you can kysmm
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>>149447193
oh the irony
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>>149447236
refer to
>>149447194
mm
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>>149447014
Yeah I'm still not sure what's being added to skill damage, since it seems "additional damage" does get added, but I read that people use Arde dagger for their multi-hit skills as well so I assume "x property attack" gets added to skill damage too. But then my Lv10 Sacrament only added 40 damage to my Heal tile but it should have added 80 since Blessing ("additional damage") was also added to my heal tile. Was Sacrament's +40 holy or +40 additional damage added? In either case assuming Last Rites works just like Sacrament then I don't see the problem with my math regarding the damage bonus. Though my meme cloud formula might be wrong; I just extrapolated from the damage formula in the PDF and estimated a 280 INT Wizard to have about 1100 Matk.
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>>149446257
>tfw when
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>>149447534

+40 elemental damage works like +40 matk basically, so you get it multiplied by attribute levels, quickcast, and etc.

The thing is, elemental damage is amplified/reduced by elemental resistance/weakness. But since holy is so based, treat it like a +40 int bonus
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>>149447194
Holy shit, you're absolutely right. I CAN kindle my skeleton's murderous mindsets. Thanks for your help, anon.
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Help me anons

This is the third time now, everytime I reach r7 I get this urge to reroll, Im currently on my Doppel 2 and I want to reroll into a Monk, whats the optimal weapon for monks? stats? and classes?
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>>149447534
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/eehwj181vu/

Last Rites doesn't turn your attacks into holy property. Blessing applies to everything. Sac/Last Rites only stack holy damage.
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>>149447876
You have altitis, just like me.
It's not curable, unfortunately.
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>>149447963
what is altitis?

whats the optimal Monk build?
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>>149447876

cleric 2 diev 2 monk 3

dex:str 3/1, some con

use maces

diev supp + cleric 2 heals and safety zone makes you useful into any party

owl hits hard even without int, carve is amazing with physical attack since it's a PIERCE skill and monk uses strike damage on their main tools so it's a perfect coverage

monk own skillset is meh but I think this is the best you can do

there are some abomination builds with krivis (weak zaibas, weak zalciai since low spr), priest (monstrance is nice but you blessing without spr? kek). and paladin shit but that's it

>putting spr into a monk

why
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>>149448025
>what is altitis?
The extreme desire to constantly make alt classes.
Even if you absolutely love a class, you still wonder if another class might fit you better.
It's fucking awful for a game like this.

Can't answer the monk question though, it's a class that hasn't appealed to me yet.

>>149448058
>>putting spr into a monk
>why
Isn't a fair few buffs from cleric getting spr scaling this patch? That's probably why.
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>>149448141
>altitis

I definitely have this then, I wanted to be a swordsman, Jon fucking Snow, now I want to make a Monk named Mike Tyson, the thought of doing a quests over again makes me want to puke, but dong that with a Monk... mmmmm.
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>>149447876
Porcupines!
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>>149448141

priest buffs already scales with spr, the new one is bleeding, but takes a good chunk of spr to make it worth it, krivis too, but the amount of critical attack you gain from spr scale is shit four YOURSELF in comparison to spreading points into str/dex, str scales great with ranks up and shit
and as a monk, you have physical attack and critical rate to care already, spr ain't making things easier, will be better for your party, sure, but as I said, there are ways to support without ruining your stat build which is the diev path

diev usually runs int because of the owls but the supportive statues didn't require INT, even intless owls hurt and str/crit carve is a great thing

also, compatible with cleric 2, and for me, no cleric 2, no party
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is Toy Hammer mandatory for Monks? why does almost every monk have them?
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>>149447936
>no holy conversion
Well it's shit then. The damage is terrible low then for skills. Those priest skills are exactly what I was planning. I just wasn't sure how necessary the 28% phys.def difference between Lv1 and 15 aspersion is for Earth Tower. At least I can take a few points from Revive/Mass Heal/Stoneskin if I do need more Phys.Def for the tank. I have no idea what Earth Tower is like though.
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/the-desu-demise-klaipedas-guild-unity-chat/314784
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>>149440945
>unironically posting proof of your own bug exploiting
Enjoy you're ban ;^)
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>>149448229
Seriously, the worst part about it is that I absolutely hate the leveling process.
No matter the game, the leveling is always the worst and it's amplified in ToS by the early classes and having to go multiple circles in a class at times.

>>149448498
Ah, my mistake then.
Honestly don't see myself making any cleric class, personally.
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>>149449069
>the worst part about it is that I absolutely hate the leveling process.

same, I fucking hated it for three times now but I cant fight this urge to just fucking do it and reroll and suffer
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>>149449152
I can only think of two mmos where the leveling process didn't majorly bother me.
Tera being one, because they've made it so fucking easy to hit 65 now that even my slow ass was able to level their last new class to cap in 10 hours.
XIV being the other, because you're not actually rolling a new character and are just doing dungeons and hunting log. At least, that's how it was before HW.
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>>149440945
Why is this retard posting proofs of his bug exploiting?
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>>149448737
>I have no idea what Earth Tower is like though
With high phys def you can face tank a lot of ET mobs and take some hits before getting devasted by their number, except on floor1 where Hogma Shamans would Joint Penalty you to the rest of the team
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>>149449351
>XIV being the other,
FAATESSSSSS
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max peta or animus for sorc? max peta for the int of course for summoning, or straight up magic atk and amp?
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>>149449741
Fates weren't bad. At least leveling classes had the exp bonus and you mainly did them while waiting for a dungeon queue, which was only an issue if you were leveling a dps.
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>>149449813
14 int isn't that big of a deal, if you want more damage, go animus. If you just want to summon and general purpose, max peta.
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>>149449595
>With high phys def you can face tank a lot of ET mobs and take some hits before getting devasted by their number
You're not going to be facetanking anything without invulnerability, invincibility, dodge, block or slithering. This is why Aspersion isn't that good because you're not going to reach 2k defense. Stone Skin more than enough and Barrier + Safety Zone helps mitigate magic attacks.
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>>149449813
animus cause peta gives spr.
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>>149450208
animus gives sp too you know
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i'm new

am i doing it right? what if i need these?
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>>149450858
You can sell the corpse hands on the Trading house. Varv skins are rare, as are Mithril Ores. Keep those for later! Also, you can feed your junk items to gems to level them up instead of selling them.
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>>149450950
Thanks, senpai! I'll remember your kind heart and loving spirit!
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>>149451061
Pass it forward through the dankest misinfo combating in the future
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I'm looking to build a doppel for sologrind autism.

I'm currently S1/Highlander1.

Originally I was planning S1/Highlander3/Corsair1/Doppel2

But I see the barb mentioned a lot. Can folks explain why I should be using it when I'm sperging?
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>>149451909
Barb is gonna get a slash attack buff, it helps doppel and highlander alot
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I really REALLY hope Desu puts their tower back up, so we can cancel wardec and re-wardec for a whole new week of guild fun, right before/after next maintenance.
No invincibility bugs, no channel hopping, most of their cheese builds nerfed. Is this what suicide watch is?
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>>149451986
So should I go, like S1/H2/B2/D2? or is Highlander only worth going 1 circle for crit buff, or 3 circles for maximum skyliner?

I can't find where the aggressor buff comes from for barbs. Do they just get that?
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>>149452120
High2 got nerfed in hindsight.
Barb3 would be better build.
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>>149452196
So, Swordsman1/Highlander1/Barb3/Doppel2?

I kind of wanted to ditch Corsair anyhow, but the jolly roger seemed useful enough. If Barb3 kills things better, that'll probably be better for drop rate, all things concerned.
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>>149452340
Barb 3 is garbage until we get the ktos buffs in a few days.
The ktos buffs gave barb so much things its laughable
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