/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.

INCOMING SEVERE STEAMGROUP BUTTHURT

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Reminder to pay for the games you play

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Nicholas

Reminder to encourage bureaucrats and build liquor factories.

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Someone post the proposed map of post WWII Germany where Germany is divided amongst it's neighbours

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>>149278051
No, for god's sake, lad. When you release a country that has your capital as a core then you you still keep yuor capital. So I want to release England, Scotland, Wales and NI as puppets and keep London for myself as the federal capital.

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>>149277790
The so-called "Dinner-Table Rebellion" was short, but it was hard. Bourgogne was forced to hire three separate mercenary companies, and even to fight upon the front lines herself, in order to bring her rebellious vassals to heel. Two lost battles almost cost her the war, but a fresh mercenary company and a stroke of luck--her slaying of one of the enemy generals in single combat--led to a victory which clinched the fighting, for she was able to assault Ascalon and capture the chief architect of the rebellion, Basileios II Komnenos, after his armies were no longer viable in the field.

Her treatment of the four primary rebels of the war--Basileios Komnenos, Duchesse Adelaide of Chypre, Duc Louis of Diyar Mudar, and Duc Ala'i of Antioch--varied greatly. Adelaide was her daughter-in-law and she owed much and more to Duc Louis (although she could never say so, of course), and so she let both go, and even reinstated their titles and positions on the Council. Duc Basileios, on the other hand, she ordered executed for his overwhelming involvement in the plot. Ala'i, finally, was merely kept in the dungeons for the time being.

>>149278583
Lad I told you just use the existing London tag

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TUNIS IS FREE
grossmaghrebiums inshallah

>>149278641
good post

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For some reason, ever since I annexed Kunduz they've been getting all my colonial migration (which is few, to say the least) and it's literally impossible to encourage anything in this province. There's around 100 Persian farmers moving there each month now but they literally don't get a single life need since they're all unemployed yet not a single one of them wants to become the first bureaucrat of the province. I was kind of ignoring this until now because I wanted to have as many pops settle there as possible but this is getting kind of worrying.
Anyone knows how to stop this?

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>>149278501
This one?

>>149278608
For Christ's Sake, just bless your biggest threat with Luck so you can be fucked over some more.

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>>149278820

Not seen that one before, thanks

>>149278793
Get more colonies I guess
Pops don't usually choose places where there is unemployement

>>149278820
>North and South split
>Free Rheinland
It's beautiful

>>149278820
Actually pretty good solution tbqh

What game is best for making Greece great again?

(ck2 need not apply, Greece is already great)

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I dont understand this event, the first choice is complete shit compared to 10 prestige and -mil

>>149278885
I try not to bless people with luck if I can avoid it, although in an upcoming situation I will be using it to help make a conflict more difficult.

I know it seems like I'm not having a tough time of things, but that's really not the case at this point. I wish I'd taken screenshots of the battles I'd lost, because I could contextualize my levy losses better, but Jerusalem was literally on the edge of two simultaneous rebellions there for quite some time, and even now it's really only holding together due to the opinion modifier I've gained for putting down the rebellion.

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>>149279149
If you want to open an embassy, please go through the proper political and diplomatic channels first.

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>>149278421
>tfw started a meme and someone decided to pick it up

feels good man

>>149279504
>a combination of words is a meme
oh look i just made another meme haha

>>149279561
dude this is my favourite meme yet

>>149279561
hello steamgruppe member you're just jelly cause you don't have my meme skills

>>149279671
>meme skills
wew

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>>149278608
Two years of quiet pass in Jerusalem as Bourgogne desperately struggles to pacify her vassals (a partial success) and to quiet the demon within her (an unmitigated failure). During this time, one of great effort on her part, her marriage with Renato rebounds somewhat, but the two lovers never again regain the happiness they had experienced in their early years, when Bourgogne was first crowned.

The gulf between them is only widened when Bourgogne receives a missive from the King of Georgia requesting a betrothal between his youngest son Mukhran, heir to the Kingdom of Ovset'i, and Bourgogne's eldest daughter, Princess Bourgogne III. Renato pushed strongly for accepting the marriage on the basis of Bourgogne's own desire to work in harmony with other Christians, but Bourgogne instead viewed the betrothal as an insult.

"The heir to the Alans?" Bourgogne almost spat. "I'm to marry my daughter, namesake of the Empress, to a boy meant to inherit the least part of the four Kingdoms? It is insanity; it is insulting. I will do no such thing. She deserves better than a child who won't even have a castle when he comes of age."

A steel-jawed Renato, grinding his teeth to keep from speaking, was forced to leave the room before he began yelling at his wife. He had long ago learned that arguing with her in such a mood was futile, and with his deepest sympathies expressed he personally sent the Georgian envoy away. Better he do it before his wife had a chance to insult him further.

someone else getting really horny when playing CK2?

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why

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>>149279149
Finally we will have a good general

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>>149278662
I don't know about this war, I might have fucked it up
no monies to build new units

>>149279149
Will you make the liqourlads go away?

>>149279504
>le posting about other people posting your """"""memes"""""" or """"""""""""""""""""OC""""""""""""""""""""

There is nothing more cancerous or reddit than this meme, it is the one true antimeme.

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wew

>>149278583
>future map of the uk

>>149280503
Who are you quoting ?

>>149278268
What did he mean by this?

>>149280553
I was quoting the spiritual content of >>149279504 , my dear friend.

>>149280531
t.reddit

>>149280531
Go back there please (to reddit)

t. meneth

>>149278583
That's not how it works. You lose Scotland and all of Ireland, then there's a decision to turn into England, which gives all British territories to England, turns all existing UK cores into English cores and tags you to England. You can't have both the UK and England at the same time.

>>149280497
What's wrong with liquormemeing?

>>149280531
what did you do that triggered meneth

>>149278307
I know fully well what Messalianism is, I think its weird and memey because it promotes incest, worship of Lucifer, and that you can detect God with your dick.

>>149280531
t. /u/BIG_BENIS_IN_MY_ANUS
>>149280842
Everything

Why'd HPM change the colour of British culture to red, I liked the neon pink more

>>149280962
>I liked the neon pink more
you're gay bro

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>>149280931
>Everything

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>>149280962
He didn't change the color of british culture

>>149280531
What "agenda" were you spreading?

>>149281081
t. steelmemer

>>149281117
I was promoting HPMan's mod

>>149281117
>>149280859
Posted https://www.reddit.com/r/paradoxplaza/comments/4u4m8t/when_your_12th_century_england_becomes_21st/

>>149280892
Like I said, I know it's partly memey too. I still thought it was a better choice than Catharism because of how ascetic Cathars are, though, and because Catharism is an extremely European heresy. Bourgogne I was cynical in the extreme, and didn't believe peasants would be willing to convert to a religion even more restrictive than the one they currently followed. That's part of the reason why she favored the morally loose Messalian creed, because she felt that peasants would take to it more readily. Also, naturally, worship of Lucifer in the Messalian faith isn't equivalent to worship of Satan (although stupid HIP goes full meme and makes it as if it were).

As for incest, that was banned in the first Grand Congress. Of course it was legitimized again in the second Grand Congress, because Bourgogne II is literally an insane slut, but the original Bourgogne didn't have any intentions of keeping it.

>>149280816
No, I want England to start as a releasable nation like SCO, WAL and IRE, then I can release all 4 and play as a federally devolved UK.

>>149281157
the steel meme is dead lad

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>>149281314
>insolent whelp

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>>149280079
For all of his frequent spats with his wife, Renato is not a saint himself. He married Bourgogne young, and even if the years have been harder on his wife, burdening her with stress and foul deeds, he is not wholly free from the stains of time. Although he has also grown more hale and more experienced in the arts of war in the past 15 years, Renato has also been forced to kill for Bourgogne, even in cold blood. The vassals of Jerusalem are not fond of him (not least because he has never wavered in supporting the rule of his wife, even when the two of them were on the worst of terms), and he is regarded as little more than a convenient lapdog, even by loyalists.

His unpopularity is not made easier by Bourgogne, who vacillates with her moods between understanding what her troubled reign has put him through and completely ignoring his problems. As in their early days Bourgogne can still be a lovely woman (although it has become harder for her, and thus rarer), and in those moments he is truly happy to be with her, but more oft than not she is merely a fat, cruel shrew who forces him to perform in the name of sating her lusts. In those moments, he regrets. In those moments, he almost even regrets that he loves his children too much to beg her for a divorce. The dark part of his mind wonders why she holds so strongly to this one noble cause, to never make a cuckold of him, in the face of all of the other things she's done. Why does she insist on lying only with him, when he would be happier if she just fucked someone else?

But those are the dark times. When he holds her and she sleeps quietly in his arms, he remembers that his wife is as much a slave to herself as he is to her. Every time he holds her he forgives her all over again; he knows how hard she tries, and how strongly her madness grips her.

In the end, he always remembers that he loves her. And, deep down, Bourgogne never forgets that she loves him, even in the deepest confines of her insanity.

lads
I had a dream last night that Paradox is going to release a world ending pathogen to coincide with their new black death dlc

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>>149280418
inb4 these niggers fuck my whole war

>>149281439
nice post-falseflag

>>149281314
>liquor meme
>steamgroup
yeah nah lad go read up more on /gsg/ culture and history before you make a fool of yourself

>>149281402
Then just changeowner whats so hard about it?

>>149281609
Then they're not my vassal, and that's >cheating

>>149281312
Lucifer IS Satan ya doofus
This isn't some equivilency shit, Lucifer is literally just another name for the devil, and the devil is Satan. With the knowledge that there is no Holy Trinity magic involved, if A=B and B=C then A=C and Lucifer = Satan. If they revere Lucifer as the elder brother of God then they elevate him above God.

>>149281603
t. steamgroupper

>>149281637
Then cheat again and make them your vassal
Or just write a decision to change all the core except London and release them

>>149281738
Take your meds ;)

>>149281801
t. steamgroupper

>>149281783
That's a lot of trouble to go to. If they were just releasable from start, like all the Spanish constituent parts, it wouldn't be a problem.

>>149281703
That's... not how it works, anon. In Catholic and Orthodox scripture Lucifer and Satan are the same thing, but in Messalianism Lucifer is regarded as a benevolent force entirely separate from evil, which is embodied by a demiurge which pre-existed God's creation of all other beings. And Lucifer isn't the elder brother of God in the Messalian creed, he's the elder brother of Jesus, IE the first son of God. God is still almighty, Lucifer is just elevated above Christ (which is why he had a right to tempt him out in the desert, etc).

>>149281991
It would take one minute, you're just a lazy faggot desu

>>149282109
My question is, why are Wales, Ireland and Scotland releasable but not England?

>>149282289
Because the united kingdom IS england.

>>149282289
Because the UK is basically England?

>>149282094
I edited the CBs you were talking about in the last thread
I can declare holy wars as a messalian ruler on other christians, but normal christians can't declare holy wars on me.
Is there anything I can do to fix that?

>>149282351
you should see your own dick oh wait you cant hahaha

>>149282751
see >>149282747

>>149282747
see >>149282751

>>149282875
see >>149282820

>>149282591
You have to fix the religious reconquest CB. Holy War has county conversion restrictions included into it. Also, some of the CBs have flipped FROM/ROOT conditions that you need to account for (so the exact text I posted won't always work).

see >>149278268

>>149282751
but is it because he has none or because he is so fat that his belly is blocking the view?

>>149283029
Based Turkslayer!

>>149283029
Based Cobra

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>>149281514
As the year comes to a close Bourgogne is no closer to gaining control over her rebellious vassalage, and decides to undertake the unconventional step of joining the Cult of Lucifer, an secret organization within the Messalian faith.

In truth, the Cult knows nothing in particular. They claim to have unique knowledge of heaven and hell, but it is naught more than a fabrication created by the original founder of the Cult (Bourgogne should know, considering that she and her mother largely formalized the doctrines of the religion). Nevertheless, the Cult is prestigious and highly secretive, and all members are sworn to assist one another. The mere act of joining it opens avenues for Bourgogne, albeit few in Jerusalem, for there are few members of the Cult in the birthplace of Messalianism.

Nevertheless, desperate as she is for stability, she will accept anything that might help to extend her control. Jerusalem has still not recovered from its terrible losses at Este, and as time continues to slip away Bourgogne worries that it might never do so, at least within her lifetime.

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>>149283029
Reminder to include liquor and bureaucrats mod on the list.
>>[V2] Liquor and Bureaucrats Mod 1.2*°
http://www.mediafire.com/download/r1s3v3z0d17ctya/liquornbureaucrats.rar

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>Shah gets assassinated
>lose the based Silver Age modifer
>this happens literally days after

How's France in HPM?

Can I actually become superior to Germany without cucking them with gamey tactics or blobbing like crazy?

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>>149281643
they might be literally african minor pops
there's no way to check though
who knows

>>149281529
WE PERSEVERE

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>>149283281
The meme that keeps on giving.

>>149283679
Nice editing.

>>149283873
thanks you too

>potato blight in province with primary culture pops
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>149283831
You can because the AI is trash

>>149283831
Yes you can

>>149283679
Just dismantle the Russians in this war now.

>>149283956
>not playing as grossgermanium
deserved

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>>149282971
what line do I need to change for religious reconquest? I added this but it didnt do anything
I dont see a separate religious reconquest cb in 00_cb_types.txt. both are under the 14th cb simply called "religious"

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What's this on their flag?

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Can Switzerland become a Great Power in HPM?
Spain isnt loosing GP status while being 9th, and switzerland 6th

>>149284225
Dio e popolo

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>>149284009
I'd have to keep the war going for at least 3 years more to dismantle them, plus there's the fact that I have 09 military techs while they have 13.
Also, the UK can't save me because they just fought a Great War against eachother for French Guyana.

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>>149283848
It's actually quite pretty.

>>149283679
Post more.

>>149275630
>>149278297
What does "This Qing Core" condition means?

>>149284071
You're not using HIP then, are you? If not, I'm not sure the code will work at all. The CBs themselves are different.

>>149284285
No, unless they break their neutrality status and conquer another state.

>>149284285
Switzerland has only one state. You need two to be GP.

>>149284423
HANDS IN THE AIR STEAMGROUPER

YOU ARE UNDER ARREST FOR IMPERSONATION

>>149284285
They can't.
>1880
>The Confederacy
>#1 at everything
>The British Commonwealth
>that score
>South Africa
>Ukraine
What's going on

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>>149283281
In the early winter of 1340 King Alvar IV of Aragon became one of the strongest Kings in Eurasia after inheriting the lands and titles of his mother, the deceased Queen of Portugal, Aibilin Plantagenet. Alvar is now King of six separate realms, and, unlike his English mother, is quite fluent in the language of his new nobility, which is overwhelmingly Iberian.

With southern Iberia and much of northern Africa centralized under a single King with an extant power base in Aragon, it appears as if a new--and disturbingly stable--Catholic power has risen.

Are there any other ways to increase colonial migration other than:
>Social Thought techs
>High militancy
>High unemployment
>Transportation reform

?

Also I've noticed internal migration seems to increase as the game goes on, is that just because of higher pop density or does colonial migration also affect how often pops migrate between non-colonial provinces?

>>149284517
I am playing as the confederacy and britain got a reactionary revolution after a jacobin

>>149283848
Mauritania now pham

>>149284346
>only 9 military techs in 1898

What the fuck? When did you westernize?

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Why is leddit so terrible at memeing?

>>149284805
just as bad as /gsg/

>>149283679
>Decapitate the envoys and mount their heads at the gates of Ashkhabad
>between civilized states nearly at the 20th century
Metal as fuck

>>149284805
Huh? Gold loan? What did he mean by that?

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>>149284423
Man fuck you grandi you italobrazilian
i wont take you bullying me anymore, i am done with it
Ill end it all NOW

>>149284390
I am. I changed the can_use and is_valid sections for the regular holy war and the EMF religious reconquest to include messalian under paulican, but religious reconquest against messalians isnt working still.

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>>149284805
pretty epic memery right ther e tbqvh

>>149284874
Don't forget lad, religion of peace

>>149284875
what did he mean by this

>>149285056
Islam is based

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>>149284346
To anyone who thought I was kidding.
>>149284641
1861, I focused solely in industry, culture and commerce because I thought I wouldn't go to war with anyone other than uncivs until the 1910s/1920s.
I think I can do it by keeping myself in my own mountains though, might also try to grab the rest of Turkmenia as well.

>>149285002
Go back and look at the exact changes to the CB I posted, because what you did here is a shortcut that won't work. You edited that info in under the ROOT clause, but you didn't supply a FROM; Messalians can declare holy wars on anyone, but other Christians can't because they're not included in the ROOT, and even if they were it would give them unlocked holy wars against everything, not just Messalians, because there would also be no restrictive FROM provided.

>>149285192
>I thought I wouldn't go to war with anyone
>while having a border with Russia

>>149285192
Show fabric factories

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>>149284575
On February 27, 1341, Bourgogne Aleramici the Elder died quietly in her sleep. She was seventy-four years old, and would have been seventy-five in just over two months.

To contextualize the life, reigns, and legacy of Bourgogne is impossible. She came to her throne late, but arguably made more effective use of her rule than most lords who had reigned since they were babes. Her beauty mixed with her intellect and physical strength were a deadly combination, and what inadvertently inspired her to forever break the same system which only deigned to permit her to rule. By the time she died she had ruled twice over, both times with mass popular support. Although she would not be remembered as a Genghis Khan or an Alexander the Great, among her own peoples she would be remembered as something of an Augustus. The name Bourgogne was, after her, ever revered.

Upon the announcement of her death Pope Damasus III (who was, as was typical for the Papacy in those days, a German) called for two weeks of feasting as thanks to God for the death of the Antichrist. The response in Messalian circles, as might be anticipated, was one entirely more somber.

The German people had (and would long continue to have) a troubled relationship with their Empress. On the one hand she brought them their new faith and reforged their ailing state into something new and far more powerful, but on the other hand she was a foreigner, one who had forced her judgement on them. Nevertheless, her death helped to unify the Germans behind her memory, and they claimed her for her own. This led to a clash with the people of Jerusalem who, although many had forgotten her, nevertheless claimed her as properly Jerusalemite.

In the end, a compromise between her two peoples were reached. Her body was cremated, with half of her ashes laid to rest in a crypt built especially for her in her capital at Hessen, and the rest buried alone in a small alcove in the royal crypt in Jerusalem.

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>>149285192
Idk why you mentioned me, but i focused solely in industry and military
Claimed the golden circle, cut down the US and spamm declared war on them until only pennsylvania was yankee
Wanted to have a comfy 11 states game, but since the mormon states joined i decited to annex them fully
>>149285424
>>149285150
New update soon, the 1.5.1 was only a hotfix
and thanks for the support

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>>149285424
>>149284992
>meanwhile AFP makes flags for both factions
Is AFP the jew that fuels war?

>>149285002
Religious reconquest nor holy wars work against paulicians if youre orthodox either
now im really interested how you enabled religious reconquest and holy wars against messalians by other christians because it seems to be broken for normal HIP paulicians as well

>>149285852
Nice copypasta faggot.

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>>149285696
No, he stays out of any /gsg/ drama and faction wars
I asked him if he can help me with some flags and he was kind enough to make them
Also, the toucouleur communist flag uses the hands from the greater germany tag in unHPM
the hands of the german socialist party
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/SED_Logo.svg/2000px-SED_Logo.svg.png

>>149284610
Please respond

>>149286034

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I don't want to go to war with Russia because my military tech is shit, on the other hand the Ottomans are in my sphere.

are we being raided

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Yeah see here's the pop map of the US. This just doesn't look right, even for 1860 there should be quite a few yankee pops. In previous versions of HPM you could always see nevada be majority yankee by this time, because of some mormon events. Also I'm noticing a lack of brits in south africa and australia. My last game literally zero european colonies in africa got any colonial migration.

>>149285946
Good eye. I started repurposing old flags I made when I think they may look good for other nations.
In this case I decided to use those hands because they look really similar to a socialist African party which existed roughly around the area the Toucoleur Empire used to be in.

>>149286138
By /gsg/, yes

>>149286138
Yes, by the steamgroup. You can even see unhpm shitposting about hpm, as always.

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If this game wasn't cancelled do you think it would've gotten the stellaris treatment here?

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Maybe I'm a bit late on this

>>149286160
Stop being native-intolerant you fucking racist

>>149286165
You could use the hammer and wheat or hammer or hoe and hammer
like this

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jEWLJuRx7BE/S4nheT-XATI/AAAAAAAACak/lsyZ9EWxfLY/s320/mozambique+5.png

>>149286307
No. The stellaris spergout only happened because of the liquor memer agitation the weeks before release. Stellaris discussion was perfectly fine before that.

Also there weren't as many GS puritans back when Runemaster got cancelled.

REMINDER THAT YOU CAN HELP STOP THE STEAMGROUP AUTISM/RAIDING

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/RadicalYugoslavia

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/RadicalYugoslavia

THIS GROUP IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE GRIEF CAUSED ON /GSG/

BUT WE CAN STOP IT

SIMPLY USE THE REPORT OPTION ON THE PAGE TO REPORT THE GROUP

IF ENOUGH PEOPLE REPORT IT THE STEAM ADMINS MIGHT ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING AND SHUT THEM DOWN

>>149286368
Id say you're early actually

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>>149285594
Oh, didn't meant to quote you, I meant to quote >>149284721
I'm not even producing that much yet, I plan to crash the market in the future with so much factory that even the UK will have to lower their fabric production by a large slice.

>>149286503
http://66.media.tumblr.com/8c4dffcc40fb869a9baf7cfffd6d20f4/tumblr_mrfwsgvwRD1r8h8l2o1_500.png

congolese one is better

>>149286307
That actually looked pretty fun, too bad paradox cancels anything unique. I actually thought they would cancel Stellaris too because it didn't get much attention till a few days before release.

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Rate this meme guys

>>149286368
For Morocco, you're early.

>>149286592
second part was meant for >>149285415
Maybe I should get some sleep now.

Why do muslim pops drink liquor? That's retarded and ahistorical.

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>>149286503
I think the flag I made for the Toucoleur looks fine as it is, but I'll save the one you posted just in case. It's always nice using something other than the classical Hammer and Sickle, so I take every opportunity I can to do so. Thanks!

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>>149285590
The successor to Bourgogne's position was one Immed von Askanien, a Perfect and a member of the Cult of Lucifer. An excellent diplomat, a native German--and, it must be admitted, a man--Immed's reign promised to unite the Messalian lords of the realm behind him, erase the negative legacy of a foreigner who had long sat the Imperial throne, and perhaps even to unite the remaining Catholics of the Reich behind himself as the foreign, female Bourgogne had never been able to.

Immed and Bourgogne II enjoyed excellent relations from the start, not least because Bourgogne paid off his debts at the beginning of his reign to help ensure her mother's remains would be delivered to Jerusalem. Although the diplomatic outlook between a Reich which was no longer ruled by an Aleramici and a Jerusalem which was once again beginning to stagnate into isolation was questionable, once Immed and Bourgogne II came to an agreement about how to divide the remains of "Saint Bourgogne," the door was open to further cooperation down the line.

Calling it quits for the night. Probably a good idea, considering the raid and the lack of interest.

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r8

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>>149286517
t. r&i

>>149286653
0/10

>>149286592
>I plan to crash the market in the future with so much factory that even the UK will have to lower their fabric production by a large slice.
Good luck with that, the UK can beat anyone in a subsidy war, which is what this game usually comes down to.

>>149286790
>1860
>cheating

>>149286814
Your shitty group is about to go down with all your steam accounts.

Hope it was worth losing all your games over a few "le ebin raids xD". Faggots.

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>>149286752
No, Thank you lad
>>149285594
>Mormon
>Communists

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>>149286653
saved desu

>>149287023
im a freelance shitposter and not affiliated with the gruppe :^)

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>>149286752
Lad can you make those new Turkestan flags I mentioned? I haven't been working on Siberia stuff since my PC died and I'm stuck on my shitty laptop but I'm not dead

>>149286847
What's the problem with it in your opinion, my lad?

>>149287023
imagine being this asspained over a fucking steamgroup

This is good for now but I will have to liberate algeria at some point

>>149287053
is this latest HPM? What did your pops look like there in 1860? what do they look like now?

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Fuck you russia when the fuck do you stop shitting people

>>149287282
>expecting a sane, non-memey reply from the Alex Grandi's HPMIDF

>>149287217
Udmurtia's flag looks like Ancap Canada or some shit lol

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>>149287303
Earlies screen i have of pops, that region was mostly mormon, mainly becouse the new migrants
But once they assimilated they turned into protestants
and its on unHPM 1.5.1 and the old version of HPM

Are there any mods that just fix the shitty bugs in Vicky 2 and other than that keep in vanilla?

>>149287336
>siding with the t*rks
you deserve everything you get

>>149287761
Turks are based though.

>>149287761
Turks are based

>>149287735
Yes, HPM made one that does that. Does nothing but fix bugs. It's in his pastebin.

>>149287818
>>149287879
russians are based

>>149288013
russians are shit & gay

Turks are based

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Well the congress decide to stabilize the balkans so fuck that war.

>>149288095
russians are based

>>149288178
Why doesn't this event also give back Greek cores?

>>149288250
see >>149288095

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>>149285364
does this look correct? this is under the can_use section of the holy war CB. FROM is on the same vertical line as ROOT.
should I copy it to the is_valid section then do the same for the religious reconquest cb?

>>149288296
It gave, they didn't have all that land

>>149288095
russians are based.

>>149288404
see >>149288304

>>149288348
OK, why doesn't it give back ALL (besides Cyprus) Greek cores?

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>>149287303
fucking forgot pic

>>149287818
>>149287879
>>149288013
>>149288095
>>149288250
>>149288304
>>149288404
>>149288468
epic forced unfunny meme

>>149288592
epic forced unfunny memes are based

>>149288592
all me

>>149288592
epic forced unfunny memes are based

>>149287906
Thanks friend
Playing it for the first time and getting no emigration or immigration, hoping there is something to fix that

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>>149284346
Wew lads maybe I should have unpaused instead of quitting an hour ago

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>>149288338
do i need to put these here as well?

>>149288948
That's not broken.

>>149288948
t. rob

>>149289000
>perfidious digits

What do you think would be a good start date in CK2 before 769?

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Yay, Pakistan soon
Hmm
How do I beat the UK?

>>149289242
Should have blobbed a long time ago family

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>>149288486
Pan-Slavism not Pan-Hellenism, ok

>>149289314
nah

>>149289242
now that you're westernized you can use your superior military to blob all around you and then take the uk

>>149289242
Take Warri NOW

>>149289004
no
red means it is an error so you should remove it

>>149289649
Go back to 4chan

>>149289314
Meh it would just fuck my literacy and kill my soldier pops fighting rebels

>>149289481
Warri is always a good answer
Im gonna tell the bongs to grab me a chinese treaty port for monies and blob in Persia I think

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My clothing industry is fairly decent and profitable, but I need more cotton.

>>149287217
Sure, I can. Would you mind telling me which of these is already a tag in the game though? Just for purposes of including it in the pack as well. I believe Tatarstan is in already. Also remember that for Turkestan itself I already made flags for it in the pack.

>>149289662
it's red because im clicking on the line. it does that everywhere

>>149289732
That's what I thought. I'm going back to /pol/ and tell those /r9k/ cucks to stop baiting us into coming into this nigger infested cuckoldry festival.

>>149289892
sphere egypt

>>149289892
That's good to know.

>>149289892
where are the liquor factories

>>149289892
Egypt.

>>149286749
bosnians like the devil's drank more than any other people on the balkans

t. slav

>>149287705
>The Confederacy
Please get rid of that shit name mod.

>>149289927
but you still don't need the }
t. modding pro

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>>149289959
>>149290068

That boat already sailed with the UK.

I will probably have to sphere fight them for Egypt, but I will take that treaty port in China that has cotton.

>>149289004
>>149288338
just tested this
completely remove the ability to holy war
fuck sake

>>149290142
Research the market techs and take libya for the neighbouring bonus to influence

>>149289904
Did I say Turkestan? I meant Tatarstan, which isn't in the pack. Also I'll just c-p what I said last time:
The way it's represented in game, it's obviously actually supposed be a tatar-bashkir union and not just Tatarstan on its own. So it would be the Idel-Ural republic in democracy/fascism, and in monarchy it would be a revival of Kazan Khanate/Volga Bulgaria, with a focus on Islamism.

>>149290413
So a Tatarstan set of flags with the specifications you mentioned. Very well. If I don't have it today, I'll write a note to remember to do it tomorrow for sure. Since it's in the game, I'll also include it in the next version of the pack, so thanks for that.

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>>149290378
Eh, I will wait for the Italo-Turkish war for that.

For now Ningbo will have to do. Maybe I will sphere persia.

>>149286784
Which mods are you using? Specifically the whole cult of lucifer one

HPM around?

>>149290142
>treaty port in China that has cotton
You know what happens to treaty ports once you take them, right?

HPM
please

there is a problem with colonial immigration in the latest version

>1900 and nevada and utah are 98% native 2% mexican

>>149291165
A few of them change to precious metals, that isn't one of them.

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>Close all my factories
>Not a single 1 [one] POP migrates to the colonies
>They all leave for other countires instead
I always thought "close your factories bro you'll get tons of colonial migration xD" was legit advice, turns out I got memed on

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Come on you bitch. Very well I dont need them anyway, Qing has literally 0 brigades right now.

>>149291440
Tell me which one I am deeply interested.

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>>149290227
this doesnt work either
fuck it

>>149291519
>trusting /gsg/
according to this place every factory should be a liquor factory

Do you play historical wargames? Any fa/tg/uys here?

>>149291778
>Qing has literally 0 brigades
Probably can't buy any wool. Not even meme'ing, if you're playing the newest HPM there probably still isn't enough wool in the 1860s.

>>149292145
Yeah I started this game before he released the latest, cant bother waiting another 30 years to play though

>>149292145
I'm playing it and I didn't have any problems buying wool.

I'm a HoI4 noob playing as soviets, I took some land in manchuria in 38 now its 39 and the germans took over poland and started shitting on me along with the hungarians. Is there any way to join the allies/form a faction, USA/france/UK are not even fighting the germans at this point...

>>149291924
Actually that advice was legit, liquor is my most profitable factory type, but I'm just getting 0 colonial migration and I don't understand why.

>>149292356
The update is save game compatible.

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>Actually that advice was legit

>>149292732
t. steel pro

>>149292402
As an unciv? I played until 1855 as Qing the other day and discounting my 2000 wool on order the demand was ~5500 and supply was ~2500, I went twenty years without being able to buy a single strand of wool.

>>149292891
Yes
In the current version though

>>149291519
If you're playing the latest hpm, what is the year? When it gets late game look around Africa to see if any people have colonists. Because my last two games there's not been any.

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More Theater Icons mod for HOI4:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/e2qjjd5c5lo7km8/More+Theater+Icons.rar

A total of 16 icons for your armies.

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>>149291778
These faggots are gonna ruin my war arent they

>>149292598
Guess Ill update then

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>i industrialize before 1900

>>149292492
>Play meme game
>Get memed on

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>>149293046
Not him but it seems to be working in my game

>>149292965
Oh he released today, I didn't see that. I meant the one from mid-month.

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>>149293197
Even got a few pops moving to Mogadishu.

>>149293046
I've had colonists earlier on but they've more or less stopped, whenever I watch colonial migration it's always at zero for the last 30 days, and shutting down factories doesn't do a thing to help.

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>>149293384
>supporting russians
Nah.

>>149293498
You do know the modifier isn't about factories that were shut but destroyed, right?
I mean besides the boost unemployment gives, any state with a factory stops people from moving out. If you want more people to move out you'd need to destroy factories.

>>149293694
>You do know the modifier isn't about factories that were shut but destroyed, right?
No I had no idea, I thought that was just for immigrant attraction.

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Am I crashing the world's economy correctly?

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>>149293873
Why don't you just look over the modifiers?

>>149293979
keep smashing that confirm trade button, j want to see how many revolts happen from lack of liquor

>>149293138
i dont understand, do I have to play eu3 to post here

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>>149293118
Wew, I only had time to siege 3 provinces before new rebels popped but it was enough. Which one would be the most profitable? I was forced to declare bankruptcy during this, had to walk all way from Kashgaria cause those fucking brits wouldnt help their little sphereling.

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>>149293994
Because I forgot about that screen. Anywa, there are no modifiers. It's just saying "No colonial migration" even though I have open borders.

Did I trigger some epic HPM meme where he doesn't let you get colonists if you're a bad goy or something?

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Can anyone tell me what map mod this is?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCWVYmFga08

Have been searching for it for so long now

It's 2016, why can't we play as Theocracies in CK2?

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>>149294315
>sindh/indian shanghai

>>149294483
Because they aren't hereditary numbnutz.

>>149294454
the liquor meme pisses alex off, you've triggered his wrath now

I'm still fairly new to CK 2 and I have a question.

My current character is a child and my Duchy is in a regency after his father was murdered. I had prepared to inherit a neighbouring duchy on the death of its current liege, but now my unlanded uncle will inherit that instead. How do I prevent this? I'm afraid he will come after my titles, since the other duchy is slightly more powerful.

>>149294593
not a valid argument
kingdoms can become elective monarchies, if anything it'd play like republics

see: borgia popes

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>>149294454
I'm pretty sure craftsmen don't emigrate.

CK2+ has gone to shit since that one guy left for HIP, ughhh

>>149294779
To colonies, I mean.

>>149294757
careful anon the r&i has an unhealthy obsession with playable theocracies

>>149294463
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=570256235

I want a paradox game where you're a small trading corporation and grow your global financial consortium to world monopoly.

PDX pls give

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>>149294779
So the "Close your factories" advice really is just an epic troll.

Not gonna lie that's pretty retarded, they should just demote after emigrating.

>>149294961
oh on steam? Damn. Thank you anyways!

>>149294869
Explain how

>>149295005
The problem is HPM lowered unemployment to unrealistically low levels because some memers convinced him that vic 2's economy is shit, so now no one is migrating because they all have jobs.

>>149295196
That's really not true though, his changes to unemployment were in Africa and Asia.

Most of europe gets full of unemployment pretty easily.

>>149295005
yo how do you get this fucking window

>>149295294
No, the unemployment was lowered in western countries also if you check his economy posts

hoi4 modding is driving me fucking crazy. All I want to do is add 1 more research slot to USA. But I cant fucking get it to work. I literally copied a mod from the steam workshop, and just changed the name and country history from Germany to USA, and it still doesn't work.

>>149295196
The real problem is that in my game I was operating under the assumption that craftsmen could emigrate and closing (not destroying) factories helped. So since Ireland starts with crippling unemployment I built lots of factories quick to to stop bleeding emigrants to other countries, but now I've also crippled my migration to my colonies, and if I just destroy my factories now I'm going to fuck my economy and my craftsmen (10-20% in each state) are going to bleed off uselessly.

Feels bad man.

>>149295364
Click on the POP icon

>>149295540
you can reopen the factories you know

>>149295687
I've got backup saves as I was just experimenting with this, but it just sucks that things don't work how I thought they did.

>>149295410
No, it wasn't. He said so himself.

If you actually looked at his screen you'd see there are some unemployed farmers, they just won't move because the state has factories and consciousness is low.

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Rate this blob.

>>149295940
Wrong board.

>>149295970
Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere/10

>>149295157
The new guy just dances around every question or issue anybody brings up in the forums, and current CK2+ is really broken as a result. They literally took the Infamy system from Paradox, the one everybody hated, and made it WORSE.

You guys are retarded, you close factories in a state so the farmers, laubourers and other irrelevant fucks migrate to your colonies. It literally says so in the tooltip.

>>149295970
Too much in South East Asia, only take Indochina and puppet Siam

>>149295970
zero.
>didn't take what Japan took from China
Disgusting

Taking Alaska is ok, hope you took Hawaii as well though.
If you're gonna blob into America, go full Man In The High Castle on the US west coast.

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>>149296268
You only lose the bonus if you destroy the factory. Closing it does shit.

>>149295872
You can see >>149295005 here that consciousness doesn't do a thing for colonial migration, literally the only things that increase it are
1) Transportation reform
2) +10% unemployment
3) Not getting enough of all needs
That's only a total of 0.5% if everything goes perfectly, which partly involves just being really shit at providing for your pops

>>149296268
Just closing doesn't do shit m8, you have to destroy the factories to remove the -0.3% malus

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>>149296471
>consciousness doesn't do a thing for colonial migration
You clearly didn't look at the screen.

>>149295970
How did you make this map?

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>>149295872
Literally nowhere does he say it's only for Africa/Asia, he only days it increases their stability
Also, that unemployment is something like 5%, nowhere near enough

>>149296661
I did just not that part of the screen

>>149296024
>discussing history on /his/ instead of /gsg/

>>149296509
>not releazing this is basically a false flag and a census for Report and Ignore to fight how many people are in the steamgroup

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>>149296667

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>>149296729

>>149295940
Why was this deleted Willy and Victorian era politics are always on topic in /gsg/

>>149297005
just

>>149297018
I literally pointed that out in my post you fucking memer, that's just an observation, in no way does it imply that HPM only plans to reduce unemployment only for Africa and Asia, as he has pretty clearly reduced it across the board.

>>149296729
>HPM copies robmod AGAIN
He can't keep getting away with it

>>149295970
2bh I like the idea of a mini Russian state in Primorye being butt buddies with Japan

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>>149297181
Well geez I wonder why he only mentions africa and asia.

When he was doing that I literally asked him about unemployment in the field in europe and he said he wouldn't mess with that

>>149297305
>tfw HPMIDF will take the bait and cause rampant shitposting and salt over Rob for the next 100 posts

One of the worst things in Victoria II is that the pops just aren't flexible enough.

For any reason you can have an immense amount of craftsmen in a state with no factories, and even if they're not receiving any unemployment payouts or pensions, they won't do anything for the most part. Some will become farmers or labourers, while some might move somewhere else.

But the immense majority of these craftsmen will just do NOTHING. Even if they have been able to afford zero life needs for months, they somehow manage to survive but don't even do anything about their state. It's ridiculous.

Unemployed craftsmen should have a far higher modifier to RGO worker promotion if jobs are available there. Pops need no real training or education to become farmers, labourers or craftsmen: that's only for the other pop types. This whole system is just ridiculous but yet no modders ever tried to fix this.

Craftsmen should also be able to migrate to the colonies, and then promote to something else once there.

>>149297181
>across the board
idk lad I'm still unemployed personally

Which epic althistory Byzantium do you like the most?

Greece+western Anatolian coast>Greece+Anatolia>the previous but with Sicily>pre-Manzikert Byzantium+Sicily>pre-Manzikert>>>>>>ugly Grossbyzantiums with the Levant and Egypt>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The Roman empire at its height>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Justinian-era blurple

What's the fastest way to increase militancy lads

>>149297558
>justinian-era blurple
>ahistorical
What?

>>149297409
It's true tho. Rob expressly lowered unemployment in Asia so he could raise the overall emigration rate and have most of them come from Europe.

>>149297608
Declare war on the UK and wait.

>>149297392
Probably because rampant communist rebels in colonies in Africa/Asia was something that people were begging him to address. Farmers and laborers in the civilized world were still an issue but not very much as they could just promote to craftsmen.
To be truthful, if it were possible, I think a better way to solve this would be to reduce the amount of colonial pops joining communist rebels by putting a negative modifier on a pop's chance to join communist rebels if they're colonial.

>>149297613
If you haven't noticed every single one of these border conformations actually happened historically. But whenever someone makes an althistory scenario which isn't Germany winning WW2 it's up to a cointoss if it includes a restored Byzantium with one of these borders.

What's the Fascist equivalent in the NWO mod? Populist?

>>149297480
HPMsan where are you?

>>149297781
He said that because that's where most of the unemployment work was done, nowhere he says that he changed unemployment in europe.

You are literally pulling that out of your ass.

>>149297906
Yes.

>>149298031
Retarded change on the mod author's part.

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>>149297781
>rampant communist rebels in colonies in Africa/Asia was something that people were begging him to address.
But that one is actually realistic

>>149298003
He reduced unemployment across the board, this includes Europe, and you can see it in the pictures
NOWHERE does he say that this work is limited to Africa/Asia, you are the one pulling shit out of thin air here

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>ywn be a proud Thirteen Coloniesian

>>149298163
>"Fascist" is a viable ideology to market your party Post-WW2
>There have been explicitly fascist parties elected Post-WW2

lad...

>>149297805
Ah, I understand now. Thanks