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Previously on /tosg/: >>148301439

>Can I play the game now?
YES YOU CAN (Get it on steam!)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd (embed)
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding.

>Add-ons:
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
http://pastebin.com/PrCkZ21n (embed)

>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vakarine (Upside down "A" in gookspeak)
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
Clover (Karga)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Empire (Louvain)
FOE(Jinsae)
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)

Cookie Cutter Guide :
>Wizard and Archer still unedited, Discuss in thread before using
http://pastebin.com/aGk6Ku7c (embed)
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>>148365942
No.
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Can you imagine how many new bug they will introduce after the merge ? I can't wait for the incoming shitstorm and 3 day emergency maintenance+possible rollback to earlier iTOS shitty version
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>>148365876
A shitton of buffs such as 1.3* more str scaling or more overcharge.

For full list visit the patches pastebin in OP
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>get enchant scroll for the first time
>+9 evasion
Eh, can't complain.
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>>148365942
so geropi is loonie_ right ?
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>It's a Moonie makes the OP episode
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>>148365942
Totally not Moonie
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reminder that avatarfagging is against the rules and will be reported
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>>148366183
>Can you imagine
No, I don't want to
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Rare footage of Capyba first ET run
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>>148365942
hey moonie don´t forget to shitpost, avatarposting and spam your dank funny memes in this thread too ;)
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>>148366586
i only come here for the capybara webms lately
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So do enchant scrolls become more common in high levels or is it just a general small chance from most cubes?
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>>148366676
FWEÈEEEEE webms are better
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>>148366914
very very small chance. at all lvls
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Wiz3 nerfs when. I hate those retarded cunts who miss out on 2 ranks of superior damage and act high and mighty because "da gooks do dis 2 xD".
Please commit suicide, all wiz3 players.
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>Moonie_
>autism worse than York
>unbelievable attentionwhore
>cuck
>samefag of the highest degree (averages at least 1-2 replies to their own post, this number can go as high as 5)
>dramastarter
>namedrop baiter
>erp shitter
>neo-/jp/


t. janitor spy
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>>148367064
Found the retard who take pyro3
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>>148366995
When?
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>>148367106
The only ones that are right on that list are unbelievable attentionwhore, erp shitter and neo-/jp/.

The rest are unprovable
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>>148367229
Never
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>>148367213
Nothing wrong with pyro 3 if you are not a shitter.

The thing is, most pyro picker don't even understand about the game.
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>>148367106
all true except this
>autism worse than York

york is the king of autism

t.windgod
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What's the add on that lets you zoom in to unprecedentedly lewd levels
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>>148367064
>nerf Wiz 3
>Wizard became a support class.

t. archer player
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>>148367537
Pretty much this

The reason why dps wizards are so strong is that they can basically 100% crit at all times while still going full yolo into their damage stat
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AHAHAHAHAHAH right now varena and telsiai both have yellow 2 dot fedimian ch1.
What was that about having an alive server monkeycucks?
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is this true ?
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>>148367389
>Nothing wrong with pyro 3

Maybe for now, but once we get more skill with higher base damage from the new class rank that +50% damage buff will be more relevant than extra damage from pyro skill
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Who is your favorite attentionwhore?
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>>148367537
>>148367686

40% steady aim soon fellow archerfags
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>mfw I just met Blue Spion Archers for the first time
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>>148368016
No, kToS is getting our nerfs
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>>148368113
>wrong_hole.jpg
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>>148367975
Yes, they are also very friendly toward their customers
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>>148368113
Thats the same face I had when I remembered that people would actually die to them when I just walk through that place taking 1 damage from everything with aspersio
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>>148368113
uhmmm
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>>148368178
Korean Highlanderfag Rage WOULD be delicious.
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>>148368256
what? all 2 of them?
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>>148368016
Other way around, they're getting 15% steady aim soon
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How does Reversi determine how much damage a reversied spell will do? Does it copy attribute levels too and then applies then using the thaum's matk values?
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>>148368256
>kTOS swordman steadily getting buffed
>suddenly iTOS nerf coming to their server

Oh boy
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>>148368248
>that build
ummmm
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>>148368113
You take literal 1s with aspersion wearing any decent white plate gear.
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>>148368438
We call it: balance
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>>148368454
I went in at lv.218 with 628 def and got raped
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>>148368282
>skyliner which is literally the only reason ktos even has swordsman played getting nerfed
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>>148368420
As someone that constantly steals other peoples frostclouds I see it this way


>their attributes get removed completely
>it takes your magic damage
>your attributed quickcast still increases damage though

still need to see how it works with magic arrow as the damage is physical
the only chance I have to see it though are worldbosses
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>>148368668
Thats the level difference working against you anon, did you forget the 10% per level under?
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>>148368454
at the same level / 10 or less levels ahead of them? prove it
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>>148366995
what the fuck, do these birds actually live in bullet time?
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>>148368884
>ITS THIS MEME AGAIN
WHAT DID I SAY, AHAHAHAHAHAH, I hope people remembered to save those webms
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>>148369017
I remember you well,
but why are you still here friend
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Discord link:
https://discord.gg/0heefDqe35vj9Raj
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>>148368884
Do you ever get tired of being proven wrong with webms?
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>>148368745
>their attributes get removed completely
Shieeet, some subhuman Orshatard was reversing my godly pyro aoes because "he was doing much more damage than me" apparently.

Damn monkeys.
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>>148368248
>>148369067
>20 levels above that spion
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>>148369253
Yeah I don't use it in missions anymore myself after finding it out

Unless the frostcloud ticks for less than 2.3k I have no reason to flip it
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>>148368016
>ArcherRanger3Fletcher3 becomes standard
I wonder how Archer3Ranger3Musket would work?
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>>148368861
oh that was it, so from now on level difference becomes dangerous instead of just noticeable huh

thanks dude
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>>148368113
>>148368248
>>148368884
>>148369301
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>>148369253
>>148368745
>>148368420
It's considered as if you were the one who used the skill. Your stats and attributes count, not the original caster's. It effectively changes ownership of the spell to you.

Stealing Magic Arrow is bad, but stealing Frost Cloud is good. Of course, you don't have those skill's attributes, but it's better than letting the bad guys have it. There are very few situations where it's a good advantage to steal a friendly's spells, though.
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>>148369932
>Those high stats with unused points
Are there a shit ton of stat point gains between 150-220 or something?
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>>148369932
that is pretty legit.

i got nothing to complain about, so i will just call you a cuck and faggot.
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Fun fact: If you buy more than 9999 wood at once you actually start earning shekels due to bug
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>>148370350
Rance is not a cuck or faggot. He milks his pet cows everyday and tends to them when they're in heat.
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who is the purest girl(boy) on /tosg/?
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>>148370350
I'll accept that.

>>148370323
Nah. CON-heavy PVP necro was pretty much unexplored territory in our guild at the time so I wanted to hit Necro2 and experiment with my damage on players before I committed to a build. I ended up 120 INT rest CON so far, but as levels and gear rise I think I might restat to full CON or 90 or less INT.
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>>148370474
oh damn.. then hmm, i call him a fucking normie
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>>148369932
>poor mans dvine.webm

Also your stats are shit, who the fuck splits up con and int?

You either go full int or con.
Especially with a PvP necro build that will kill anyone at full con anyways.
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>>148370481
No girl(boy) is pure here. The purest /tosg/ are boys(boys).
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>>148370481
The one that doesn't attentionwhore you
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>>148370481
Evergarden
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>>148370625
ummmm
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>>148370612
>rance
>poor
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>>148370570
That's not what I mean.
My highest stat at 130ish is 150, my second is around 80.
So either I've already missed a ton of free stat points or there is a bunch just ahead of where I am now or c6 and c7 give massive boosts.
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>>148370694
This nigga
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>>148370828
I'm quite well-geared, max peta inflates those numbers a lot. I haven't gone around and picked up all the free point statues so I don't think that's it, but you will get a few free points from the main story quests.

>>148370814
Shh. It's okay.

>>148370612
I'm not going to spam the math here but this build is entirely for PVP, and at 0 CON, a +12 corona and my gear (wizard bracelets, max peta, +10 royal mage gloves, and a few hats for matk and HP) my flesh cannon would only have done 22k in PVP. Remember that damage is halved in PVP. That's quite a bit less than I was comfortable with. When planning around Necro it's important to keep in mind that in PVP you almost never will hit your entire Flesh Cannon, so you really need to give yourself some wiggle room. That said, I may just massively overgear myself and go full CON anyway, but for normal people full CON necro won't kill 100+ CON players in a single cannon unless they both stand still and have really low magic def.
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>>148370612
a mix is actually fine. cause our pets get bonus damage from int and you want more damage to kill high hp targets more quickly. fast you get enough hp to survive whatever common burst then you'll want to go damage
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>>148371168
>and at 0 CON
I'm retarded. I meant 0 invested INT points.
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Guys how the fuck do I deal with getting the kill count in kalejimas waiting room?
The freeze is absolute cancer and not even dispels help since they keep spam chain freezing, I've lost 40k within short while from dispells trying to do the kill count there.
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>>148371527
dont do them?

or get a party/friends/guildmates to help
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>>148371168
I'm not sure what you mean

Do you not count in attributes or something?

With 80 attributes and wiz3 even a full con fleshcannon with upgraded superior corona rod will wipe most shitters that stand in fleshcannon for less than a second even.

Also I believe your build is about holding them in place in the first place with magnetic force
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>>148371653
I wouldn't be doing kill counts if I have friends/guildmates.

I can't afford to miss any kill counts since I've calced I need to do every last one to hit around 270~ with daily missions so I can go to maven where people don't care I'm a shitty meme build.

I swear to god, why doesn't this game have shit like RO which turn you into x element so you don't suffer from this bs.
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anyone have room for me in their guildie? i'm kinda lonely... ;(
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>>148371953
Message Karga when she gets on. Clover has a couple inactives we could kick.
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>>148371953
hit up lolicuck, moonie. we need another cuck like you in futurecuck
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>>148371953
fuck off tonnie_
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>>148371953
>has own guild
>joins another
truly a cuck moonie
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>>148372069
>Sharing the same guild as Moonie

Fuck that shit
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>>148371849
>ro
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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what did he meme by this
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>>148372069
>Karga
>she
And I'm a fucking attack helicopter.
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>>148372085
tfw Jace will never join futurecuck
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>>148371659
>With 80 attributes and wiz3 even a full con fleshcannon with upgraded superior corona rod will wipe most shitters that stand in fleshcannon for less than a second even.
I thought this too for quite a while, and for 0 CON builds, it's true. But this character was rolled partially as a solution to increasingly difficult FutureProof wars (the lolAtom period) where building around killing 0-30 CON shitters was no longer adequate.

The math I did was actually based around 80% Flesh Cannon, yes. At the moment, though, I only have 70%. Regardless, I tested my numbers when I hit Necro2 and flesh cannon 10 in duels with guildmates and they held up. Killing PVP builds in full CON would require Swell Brain or a corona rod upgraded further than I really think I can afford.

In regards to Magnetic Force, yes, that is correct. However, Flesh Cannon has a long charge time. You don't have time to fully charge it and let it go in MF, you get half way or so, and even then there's a second where it swirls the corpses around you and lifts them in the air before the damage comes out.

Magnetic Force really doesn't last long at all. It's nice in PVE because the monsters just kind of stand around after it but that doesn't happen in PVP.

Threw together a webm to illustrate.
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>he's not raising highlander's moulnet to max level

kys bois
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>>148372268
thats how you can crash a channel
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>>148372085
Fuck no. No need any more attention whoring filth.
I honestly hope Karga tells you to kys and then you'll have to join the containment guild specifically made for retards like you (TakeItEasy).
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>>148372563
why would Moonie join his own guild?
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>>148366318
Jesus how retarded are you guys.
I've been asleep and find all this shit about me on the gen.
Not even sure what's going on but look.
No you
Me = Not OP
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>>148372757
Kyssmm yourself.
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>>148372367
I thought the combo is
QC>Fleshcannon>Magnetic force

I have a necro myself so I know about the delay obviously. But you shoulod have enough time to use magnetic force after casting fleshcannon
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>>148372757
>using a mobile to try and hide the fact you're THIS much of an attentionwhore
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>>148372757
yeah sure *slaap your ass weet with my braincells * xd
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>>148372069

how will i know if theyre on...
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>>148372757
You're going through the effort of creating a fully fledged 2nd persona to shit up the general with and you think we'll be fooled by some 30 second photoshop?
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>>148372757
Good morning Mia. Dont mind these bullies.
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>>148372908
Sadly I haven't had too much time to play around in PVP, as most of our wars ragequit right away this guild league thing. I think this method could possibly work, and wanted to try it myself, but at the same time, MF has a delay of its own, and time sensitive combos in 2FPS is pretty rough.
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>>148372919
I don't have a mobile, nor do I care about getting attention this desperately from a bunch of autists on /tosg/
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>>148373084
It's 3PM, it's not morning Mia. Have some respect for my timezone.
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F.O.E lf members PM Jinsae o/
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>>148373137
>I care about getting attention this desperately from a bunch of autists on /tosg/

fix'd
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>>148371953
CuteNLewd
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>>148367106
you forgot stinky feet
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>>148373350
I'm not even guilded so no bias here, but no lie, Jinsae is the biggest piece of shit guild leader on /tosg/. why the fuck anyone would join that guild is beyond me.
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>>148373561
for erp ofc
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>>148373561
Jinsae seems like an angel when compared to mentally ill psychos like Moonie and Hiraku though
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where should i be leveling/grinding at 71? the next questing area is 17 levels higher than me.
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>>148373727
t. the motherfucking Wind GOD himself
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>>148373479
what ? explain this
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>>148373727
well moonie's just an attention whore, but honestly, I could get over that fact. even lolipan's autism and rodelposting can be overlooked.

Jinsae, on the other hand, is the type of person who actually wants you to do poorly and fuck you over. in other words, a scumbag. I've repeatedly seen misinfo and actual maliciousness coming from them time and time again.
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>35 unique posters
>7,500 players online during prime time hours spread across several servers

I hope you enjoyed wasting your time and money on this game.
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>>148373561
why the fuck anyone would join a /tosg/ guild is beyond me.
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>>148373856
He once accidentally posted in this general instead of /jp/ about how to cure smelly feet or so. Then deleted it right away.

I don't have the screenshot saved but it was reposted a few times.
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>>148373772
check
http://www.tosbase.com/game/world-map/
https://tos.neet.tv/zones/world-map
https://tos.neet.tv/zones
and pic

for maps to quest. 0 need to grind under 140 or 200.
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>>148373084

qt
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>>148373561
>>148373727
Somehow I think neither of you have ever talked to any of them and are just shitposting for the fun of it.
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>>148374020
>Jinsae, on the other hand, is the type of person who actually wants you to do poorly and fuck you over

You are literally crying because a 4channer is acting like a 4channer. If you hate 4chan so much, there's hugbox for faggots like you to go to and ERP/circlejerk. It's called Reddit.
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>>148374026
even the forums are dead and full of shitpost and doompost
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>>148374026
Nice.
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>>148374163
You don't need to talk to them when you're in the discord. I can easily compare Jinsae and Hiraku by just idling in there.

Jinsae seems okay, maybe a bit autistic, but normal for 4chan standards. Hiraku is a mentally ill attentionwhore on the same level as Moonie
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>>148374020
fuck off to reddit attention whore
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>>148367976
I'm just comparing pyro 3 to ele 3.

The reason why ele 3 is better, is because ele 3's spell can't be cancelled that easily compared to pyro 3.

Pyro 3 has far higher hit count though, which means any buff that allow pyro 3 to fully deal their damage will make them better than ele 3 in later game.
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>>148374116
>Orbiting Mia
Your Agapi is showing.
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>>148374113
thanks m8
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>Namedrops
>Namedrops everywhere
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0-4 otome general
6-9 ragnarok general
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>>148373350
>o/
Into the /r/trash it goes
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>>148374817
unfunny meme
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>>148373561
>>148374020
jinsae has an ego. he did the reddit backstab cause of his ego but having an ego is better than being a cuckold like lolicuck towards atom and other people

having a bit too much pride is better than licking boots.
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>>148374026
wait was our peak seriously 9k ?
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>>148373350
>o/
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who /o// here?

o/

>>148375112
>>148374952
These guys most certainly aren't
Later fags
o/
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>>148374393
>>148373727
why are you even namedropping me, how am i relevant to this? just stop
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>>148375073
No, you can literally see the 15k daily peak which is whenever seamonkeys come online but unless you're a seamonkey, 7-8k is the normal amount of players including the 3-4k bots
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>>148375257
kys
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>>148374817
Cute someone you think is name! Kayori!
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>>148374393
>Uses discord
>Shits on other people for being retarded

All of my keks son
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>>148375820
York!
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>>148375382
atleast take me out to dinner first, anon
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>>148375820
>Cutedropping that slut

uhmmm
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>>148375945
>Jinsae
>better than Karga
Fuck off retard.
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>>148375945
>Jinsae ...... aren't cancerous
haha nice try Jinsae. Nobody likes you.
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>>148374269
>t. Jinsae
>>
J I N S A E
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>>148376218
>>148376272
Jinsae could never construct a sentence in proper English without any spelling errors.
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>>148373024
Now.
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>>148376187
It's like you completely missed the point of my post, retard.

I like Karga more than Jinsae, and objectively Karga is a better person than Jinsae, but when I think of a representative for a 4chan guild, Jinsae is miles ahead of Karga.
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>>148376187
>>148376218
>>148376272
>>148376351
>>148376367
>5 sequential posts about the same guy
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>>148375945
>old board/neo board meme
>>>/out/
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>>148376431
I wouldn't say that autism represents 4chan better
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>>148376431
Oh sure, of course it's easier to be a representative of dead guild. But there is a reason nobody joins FOE.
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>>148376767
There's also a reason most of the oldfags left 4chan.
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>>148374269
>your own guild leader wants you to get fucked and misinfos you and tries to get you to fuck up your character
>this is okay because this is 4chan
>keeps spamming "please join F.O.E" in the thread

if you're going to actively try to fuck people over, then don't be surprised when people warn others when you recruit in this thread.

looks like you're the one who wants the hugbox. it's fine when you're fucking people over, but oh please don't mention this in the thread and tarnish my reputation that hurts my feefees.

don't like people releasing the straight truth? then don't do sleazy shit. if you do sleazy shit, expect info leaks and blowback. reddit is the place, after all, where "witch hunts" are outlawed. sounds like you belong there.
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I like Hiraku.
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>>148376860
Because they couldn't accept new memes?
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>energy bolt has 3 charges
>they dont cooldown independently
why
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And not a single exp card was used that day.
I always knew that all those hours spent in Splatoon would be handy one day. Just jump an' shoot son. Just jump an' shoot.

Anyway. The question is, what now? I guess it's time for Magic Missile and Quick Cast. Something like this maybe?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111a.2a3f6a7585
Maybe drop a point from Lethargy to Energy Bolt. ... then again, even with the 120% damage damage boost Attribute I doubt it'll be as much damage as jumpin' and shootin'
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DISCORD OUT

REEEEEE
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>>148377069
2HARD2CODE

MY MEME COMPANY

DONT BULLY IMCRAP

BEST WORST COMPANY IN THE WORLD

THESE SPORT CARS AND WOLFSKNIGHT™


REEEEEEEEEEE RO FAGS
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>>148377069
The whole "overheat" system is completely retarded and makes no sense.
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>>148374269
Who puts a blank line after the greentext? Excessive double spacing, bringing up that site for no reason, and thinking 4chan is the raidfag reputation it has on other sites are characteristics of people from that other site.
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>>148377561
>Who puts a blank line after the greentext?

Everyone?
You know what I can't stand though?

>>148377561

Doing this
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about to make an archer. requesting some good builds
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>>148377908
you'll just get misinfo'd here, do your own independent research
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>>148377908
3 archer 3 quarterback 1 schwarzeneggar
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is this game harder to pick up and learn than RO?
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>>148375945
I find Karga and Rance to be the most useful of the namedrops by far. Katz is cool but rarely posts anything useful.
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>>148377908
It's a free to play Korean baby game.
Any build is "good"
It just depends how much cash you sink in to RMT for how "good" it is.
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uhmmm....

am i the only one that wants to fuck moonie????
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>>148378460
Yes, Moonie, you are.
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Ugh, neo-/tosg/
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>>148378460
t.moonie
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>>148378460
no. i also want.
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>>148378559
>neo meme
tosg has always been filled with attentionwhores, beta orbiters and retards
At least right now theres no key beggers
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>>148378648
[moonie samefaging intensifiles]
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>>148378460
ever since he told me he can fit it in entirely with some foreplay
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>>148378460
You get me all to yourself no punctuation anon-kun
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>>148378979
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Alright, newboi here. I'm level 27. Whens the best time to use these lvl2 exp scrolls? I heard theres an exp reset or something soon.
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>>148379137
when monsters for your quests are more than 5 lvls over you or whenever you want.
dont save cards under Lv130.
exp reset does not matter.
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>>148374026
About as much as i enjoy every other waste of time game. so no real change
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>>148378979
stop lying!!!!! you said you were leaving for another cuter girl (game)
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>>148379137
Doesn't matter, stay within 5 levels of the map you're on and do both orsha and klaipedia using return quests to keep the warps up.

You should not need to ever save cards until the 170-175 gap and you should never need to grind till 200+ unless you need some shekels from demon prison d2
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>>148379137
only 'save' cards when dungeons give nice exp (50 to ~65, 130 to 145, 145 to ~160, 190 to ~205)
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>>148379505
Then come with me, this game is rip soon
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ded

is everyone fapping to >>148378979 now?
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>>148380114
everyone playing the game
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>>148378979
moonie butt is the best
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who play idTOS here?
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>>148380905
nobody
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>>148380905
what the fuck is idtos?
what region is it?
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>>148381781
india
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Loli are we trying the meme event tonight? Should I log in?
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>>148381991
Later I'll log back in. We'll do it then, if the right people are online.

I'll post a warning if we decide to go.
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Hello where is the ktos patch info? tos-kr has nothing still, will they even have one this week?
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>>148382264
Please just kill yourself you autistic retard.
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>>148382329
go back to reddit
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hey is this game online?
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hello does anyone play this?
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>make account
>can't use the trade or market for a week
what
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helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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>>148382983
Nice try, MMOTANK.
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>>148382983
Kim is trying his best. Please understand
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>>148382767
>>148382959
>>148383086
it's ded anon
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>>148382983
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>>148382983
>Chinafags just wait a week
>Doesn't matter because they make new shit every fucking day
>New actual players are the only ones affected
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>>148377518
Early in development it was supposed to be that using skills would decrease the overheat cooldown on other overheat skills, so a player that took lots of classes with active abilities would be able to constantly rotate their skills to get extra casts via the overheat system, which would give added strength to heavily multiclassed builds.

They never really got it working correctly and just left it as is for some reason.
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>>148379715
Don't forget the constructor's chapel.
If you can get a party going without the New Character Mafia ruining it by parking a Warlock there for shits & giggles.
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I've never seen a company try so hard to lose all of their players.

Seems like every other patch, they add more "player prevention" limitations. The game came out in April, it's only July and the game is down to 7,000 players.

How do you fuck up so bad? You're backed and advertised by Steam, you have the nostalgia from RO and aesthetically pleasing graphics, you have a decent combat system that almost makes this game feel like a cross between RO and D2, yet you can't even last half a year.

Jesus fucking Christ what a disappointment.
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>>148384223
They're not doing it for shits and giggles, they're doing it to help powerlevel their alt or friends chars.
Its one of the fastest exp places for powerleveling if you're not going to get exp from an afker at bees/vedas.
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>>148384768
>aesthetically pleasing graphics
That were designed so poorly they're the main cause of client performance issues.
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>>148377069
I hate this because magic missile was my only damage spell r6, was a fucking pain.

If the cooldown started after you used 1st charge would be so much better.
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>>148384768
B-But it's still in the steam top 100
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>>148385236
>magic missile only damage spell at r6
what meme is this? You'd have had frost cloud by than
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>>148370768
We live together now!
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>>148384863
>They're not doing it for shits and giggles

I believe you, sempai
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>>148385568
When are you two going to commit suicide together?
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>>148385568
UMMMMMMMMMMMM
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>>148385568
How is that working out?
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>>148385568
Grats, guys. Hope it all works out for you.

You never know on the first couple days. It's either an energetic, excited romp or an awkward moment of learning how each other work in person, what you're comfortable with, etc. Neither is necessarily a bad sign.
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>>148385568
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>>148385568
Fuck off, seriously, this has nothing to do with the game. Your kind is the reason why this general is so fucking shit.
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>Have build that is absolutely shit for boss rushing
>Get told by others how shitty it is, period, even though literally everything else is ezpz
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>>148386050
Anon, just ignore the attentionwhores and retards.
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>>148386050
Yea
At least moonie posts butt.
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What classes or circles are constantly in demand? About to start an alt and i-...i just want to feel needed.
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>>148386858
Pelt 1
elememe
full healer
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>>148386858
Chrono for general purpose.

Do you belong to a specific guild? What are their goals? World boss guilds are in need of memelinkers while PVP guilds need other crap.
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>>148386858
Peltas
Linkers
Cleric 2
Priest 3
Diev*
Bowfags who understand how to not kite a boss away from a magic circle
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>>148385568
who tops?
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>>148386858
Corsair3. I know what you're gonna say "Sounds like a meme! are you tryna trick me anon?" And I definately am not my good friend. The slick speed of the pistol as well as the only c7 warrior class that can viably use a 1h sword? Earth Tower Parties won't be able to keep their hands off you!
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>>148386394
d-delete that!
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>>148385568
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>>148387346
Uh... Sounds like a shitty meme. I can't imagine Corsair 3 being better than any other c7 class save for shinobi.
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how important is it to buy a pet?
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>>148387970
only for team level
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>>148387173
One guess.
>>148387364
Your wish is my command.
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>>148387970
you're pretty much retard tier if you don't get a pet for team level and the added bonus that when you level an alt you now got it killing stuff for you
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How are Rune Casters? I'm considering making one since their costume is so cute.
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>>148387769
>shitnobi
>bad
Its hyper specialised but they're in no way bad, hell you can level up faster than full parties at alemeth/evac/non magic areas.
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>>148387769
It's a meme, but it's decent in PvP (as far as swordsmen go).

Pistol Shot also got some sweet base damage buffs in kTOS which turned them into a ranged hexen dropper.
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>>148388135
pretty bad.

long cooldown. lame dmg outside of some long cooldown combo. long casttimes.

its shit
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sorry for being an embarrassment i had to log off after that thank you for the invite though
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tos korea patch is out
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>buy silver
>have to wait 2 days
This is the worst part.
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>>148388475
neck yourself
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>>148388475
>thank you for the invite though
What guild took you in? CuteNLewd?
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>>148388078
not Cattly
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>>148388940
orsha ch1

!!pii pii

so i know it's you
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>>148388891
Nailed it. Do you know his name, Anyan?
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>>148388940
All the non gay boys quit
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>>148388940
Not in mercenary dungeons yet.
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>>148388940
Most are taken.
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>>148388940
Right here
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>>148389082
by other boys
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do you think they'll ever add centurion back?
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>>148365942
what class combos would the based GOBLIN SLAYER be?
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>>148389659
Sayonara, Centuri-san.
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>>148389659
Probs not since the data for r8 swordsman seems to be hackapell and lancer
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>>148389794
Why was centurion removed in the first place? The concept was cool as fuck.
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>>148389827
You mean murmillo and lancer.

And yes it's coming back, likely as a R9 class.
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>archer 170

Khasti bow +5 or white crossbow + dagger +5?

Yes, I want a cheap bow to +5, I'm more towards the khasti because of the flying mobs, but the xbow+dagger will give me a higher critical rate.
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>>148389023
Mia calm down.
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>>148389901
Isn't hackapell the fish helmet class or am I getting mixed up?
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>>148389893
It had a godly cd reduction skill.
Centurion was pretty much mandatory when they added that skill, it was r10 worthy as a class.
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>>148389893
Because it was WAY overpowered. The damage reduction alone broke it entirely, and the CD reduction was overpowered icing on the cake. It was a class that completely broke the game.

It was designed with raid (or at least 9+ man content) in mind so when applied to the 5 man content this game has it was simply flat overpowered.
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>>148390068
Hackapell is a crossbow and dagger mounted archer.
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>>148390119
CANT ALLOW SWORDSMAN TO BE USEFUL, MUST FUNNEL ALL USEFULNESS INTO MARY SUE WIZARD DEVELOPERS PET
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Where are the gay girls?
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>>148390268
All girls are pure
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>>148390258

Centurion build: Pelt 3 > Rodel/Squire, taunt and buff your broken allies that aren't swordies.

Nice.
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>>148388940
'
They're in normie guilds, where the boys actually play and act like boys and the girls are actually girls.
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>>148390186
Could you give us a rundown of what it could do or is there some place I could check it out?
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>>148390606
>the girls are girls
this wasn't even a think in ro
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>>148390628
tos neet
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I miss Wedge Formation and Special Formation.
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when do i replace caprisun?
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>>148389794
Oh, forgot about this one.
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>>148390268
>>148390483
N-No
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>>148390268
they're just friends
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>>148390863
you don't stupid. you enhance it to +20 and that's your et equipment
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>>148389893
As a concept it's cool, but it effectively takes movement control from an entire party... from a design standpoint, that's pretty rough.
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>>148388180
Can't pvp since my computer is a giant piece of shit. Are they any good in pve?
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>>148391616
All computers are a piece of shit in PVP in this game.
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>>148385568
I hope Cattly and his boy get along well and live happily together for awhile. They atleast seem happy.

I hope you find your special someone anon, and i hope it goes well for you too. Even if it's just something through a game.
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>>148391695
Mine's even worse. I bought mine 3 years ago at a school auction (one of their library comps). Can really only play League of Legends (on lowest settings) and this game.
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Are there any classes that go well with Kabbalist? Want to go Cleric2(WhateverC3)OracleKab?
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>>148391186
i didn't ask for sass.
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>>148391761
this game is not light in resources.
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>>148392054
It's not so bad that I can't run it. I have a lot more lag and I can't run anything else at the same time but it's playable at least.
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>>148391738
>for awhile
Uhhmmm
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>>148392261
relationships
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>>148391738
That's gay as shit.
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>>148392164
Just go to your user.xml and follow the abundance of guides on google, I can play this game fine on a 7 year old comp.
Also go to setting and turn off all the shit you see
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So are paladins pretty much worthless in this game like they are in many others? I was thinking of getting into the game and going Paladin but I don't want to waste my time if they are just terrible.
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>>148391616
Is a 19 second 3-target stun that can't be cured and ignores immunity good for PvP?
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>>148392712
>moving in
>not dating
Is this some sort of fuck-me-for-rent agreement?
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>>148392994
Str paladins are garbage that scale horribly.
Spr paladins are really op but only against specific mobs which are like 1/3 of the mobs you face which means in other situations you're the conventional healslut.
Int paladins are literal garbage.

If you want to SMITE HERETICS than you'll want to go str even through it scales badly
>>
>>148391761

>buying a pc instead of building your own
>expecting a school computer to be able to run modern games

ummm... maybe go back to console, kid
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>>148393157
Please be kind.
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>>148393235
Damn that kinda sucks. I was thinking of going int/spr based cleric 2 Priest 2 Paladin 3. But If they are garbage I guess I will have to think of another class to play.

Are there any classes in the cleric tree that are fun and good to melee with? If not are there any fun good melee classes that I should play?
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>>148393008

>3 target stun

More like 2 pets and 1 player if you're lucky
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>>148393157
What do you expect from gays? They're fucking degenerates.
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>>148393465
>good melee classes
Literally does not exist outside pvp or specific situations.

All the ranged classes are vastly superior to melee.

My suggestion is to just play whatever you want if you're taking cleric 2 since people will want you in their parties regardless of whatever else you do so long as you can heal
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>>148393465
>cleric 2 priest 2 paladin 3
garbage, should take priest 3 and paladin 3 so you can give your team invincibility to basically all damage if you go full spr and can instantly kill 150k+ enemies in a single hit.

Too bad barrier is kinda hard to use whilst grinding on the go.
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>>148393580

this is a lie, lol.

Doppel / Fencer / Dragoon / Cata are better then most non-tryhard archer builds.
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>>148393580
Yeah that was my goal with my paladin build. I was going to be more of a support/heal class with some defense and melee skill if things came to that.

I was going to max smite, conviction, barrier, and resist elements. And put a point into turn undead and conversion.

>>148393767
Is there a build you can link me on this. I really like how the Priest buffs look at 3, but I thought the extra heals from cleric 2 would be better.
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>>148393295
I was only able to squeeze out $200. And I did say it can run TOS and League which are pretty much the only games I play asides from the games on my ps3. Don't know where you get off condascending me but hey man, feel better.
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>>148393775
>this is a lie lol
oh the irony and hypocrisy, any casual archer build easily triumphs swordsman builds due to the existence of musketeer an canooner
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Can you join the dungeon random queue with a non-full party or does IMC not want you playing with friends?
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>>148394475
its completely random even if you queue together in a party
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how does it feel that people would rather watch numbers fly by on a screen(clicker heroes) than play tree of boringdogshit?
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>>148394585
How lazy could you be towards a key aspect of MMOs?
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>>148394475
Heres a trick to get 10 man dungeon parties.
1. be not in a party
2. click random queue
3. have your friend party leader invite you whilst you're in random queue
4. when you enter you will be with randoms but you will notice you have 5 blank "out" members
5. now your friends can enter your random queue dungeon and do a 10 man
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>>148394663
Or you could just play with your friends and not enter the random queue?
Only have very few friends and not enough for full party?
Go use shout and stop being an anti-social nitwit who refuses to go outside your small circle of friends
>>
hey famalamadingdongs

whatchu think of this hot build for sick heals?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4111bbbf.1f213d5a6175.152f3f6575.153545

too bad i'm the only person who plays this game and everyone else quit. guess i can heal myself.
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>>148393571
BE NICE!
>>
Are rogues any good? I have never seen one but their costume is so cute.
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>>148394714
Neat could do this with less than a 5-man group then.

>>148394864
It's been my experience in this game so far that every PC might as well be an NPC, except NPCs at least have a dialog you can go through instead of nothing. I guess I can try again though.
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>>148395045
they are cute
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>>148394987

good luck spending 3 months to level this
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>>148395045
they're generally pvp oriented (c2), but are great as a value c1 pick. The problem is that everyone either wants to be a WB fletcher or a Quarrel shooter and none of those fit rogue in
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>>148395234
hahaha look at this stupid fucking newfag retard and laugh

what are pardoner buffs, shitkid?
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>>148395045
A class that's good for pvp, not many r3 since it takes up Musket and Canon at r7. Burrow seems neat.
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How much for this?
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>>148395360
>shitposting this relentlessly
Sure anon, go play your absolute garbage build, I'm sure it'll work out for you :^)

I will bet you my arde you'll quit it before 280.
I'll be suprised if you even hit rank 7.
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>>148395676
What server you nig?
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>>148395897
Telsiai
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>>148396017
300k-500k
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>>148392712
it's complicated
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>>148396197
Thanks. How about this?
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>>148392712
>kissing a boy you're not in a relationship with
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>>148396578
It's called an affair.
>>
>>148396578
Yeah Mia should take some notes...
>>
does anyone even play this anymore or is this general 100% shitposting now?
>>
So for my support build should I go cleric 2, priest 3, Chaplain and Kabbalist?

Or Cleric 1, Priest 3, Paladin 3?
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>>148396495
Its garbage.
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>>148396475
I said we can't date until we have some income since I don't want him spending money he doesn't have on me. I cooked for him though!
>>148396578
Uhhm
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>>148396676
Never seen her kissing a boy.
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>>148396748
My crush still plays.
I keep telling him to stop but baka senpai won't listen.
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>>148396818
I would go Paladin. Chaplain is kind of meh honestly, the damage falls off end game and you're left with a class that exists pretty much entirely to keep stone skin up with a skill that's horribly taxing on the buff bar.
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>>148396748
i played the game when i made an oracle and bust heads. otherwise it's just a bee farm simulator chat room
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>>148397672
Not him but i was considering making chaplain just because the costume looks good, is it really that bad? I guess even as a low lvl farming character its subpar since you can't range or buff move speed.
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>>148396495
1mil ish
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>>148396748
In 7% I will have soloed Alemeth for 18 levels. I should really take a day off or something, but I really need to catch up.

This is probably too much playing the game.
>>
What's the reason falconer is taken at c6 for a lot of archers?
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So, how good is Schwarzer Reiter? Are they as good as their outfit? What classes would you go to use them?
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Is there a weapon that increases pyromancer skills?
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1133aaa9

How much am I going to hate myself?
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Guys what does it mean when it says "search skill trigger"?

I'm super confused
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>>148397812
Do you macro Skelly Summon?
What program do you use? I'm having no luck with AutoHotKeys.


Please heal a fledgling Necromancer that's trying to start his career on another server.
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>>148398485
They want to be a loser who didn't pick scout.
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>>148397672
Okay then should I go Priest 2, Cleric 2, Paladin 3 or Cleric 1, Priest 3 Paladin 3?

I plan on being mainly support. Healing and buffing, with some dmg if need be.
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>>148398537
ludas staff
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>>148398883
you need kabbalist in there if you're going paladin 3

the only benefit to going paladin 3 is you have a valid reason to go kabbalist.
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>>148399075
thanks
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>>148399192
>the only benefit to going paladin 3 is you have a valid reason to go kabbalist.
Such as?
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>>148396748
>Game so dead everyone is more interested in gay catboy romance
Sign me up
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Remove CNL.
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kToS patch files are up. All the skill balancing this week are the changes we had on iToS moved to kToS.
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>>148399751
it's a pretty cute gay boy romance though
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>>148399938
It would be cuter if cattly didn't literally camwhore in other boards.
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>>148400016
>camwhore in other boards.
is he cute?
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>tfw waited 2 days to sell Mithril to see if supply would drop (about 10 up consistently) and could get more silver
>tfw I put it up yesterday and now today there is 0 mithril on sale
>tfw I don't even play this game anymore besides doing 2 dungeons a day until I reach 70
Thanks IMC. What level's the next farming place after Yog/Egnomes at 50 and is it pure silver or Market selling things? I feel like getting an Arde before a Token.
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>>148399880
>changes we had on iToS moved to kToS.
skyliner 0cd is never coming

nice
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>>148399880
Actually looks like they changed what skills you can use under Bunshin no Jutsu. Might actually make it not terrible?
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>>148399880
proofs
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>>148399868
stop this bullying!
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>>148400242
>you can now Synchro Thrust with your Bunshins
Peltasa Hoplite Rodelero C3 Shinobi here I come
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>>148400242
>mijin doesn't get extra damage
What's the point of this skill again? Killing yourself after realizing you picked a shit class?
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Girls I cant take it anymore, I think I'm gonna quit. There's just nothing to do besides ERP
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>>148399868
Don't bully the cute!
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>>148400358
You're free to download the files too if you want.
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>>148400624
RIP Skyliner, whats the point anymore
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>>148400612
Reddit's garbage isn't cute.
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>>148400016
>>148400134
Please be kind.
>>148399938
I think it's fairly cute too!
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>>148400624
Actually I don't remember Samsara changing before, but according to the description, it not only affects the target, but enemies around the target too.
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>>148400554
>can't even ERP because my special friend disappeared in a cloud of smoke

This game...
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>>148400849
Licoriceeee
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>>148400827
w.h.a.t.
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>>148401196
시간을 조작하여, 몬스터가 죽은 뒤 그 장소에서 다시 나타나게 합니다. 몬스터 가까이에서 사용해야 효력을 발휘합니다.
It says "When applied, monsters will revive again in place on death. Nearby monsters are also affected.". That last bit is new to this patch.
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I wonder what kind of restrictions we can give them next week...
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>>148401501
why can't he just leave us alone???
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>>148401546
Well if you think about it he is leaving us alone. Only kTOS gets any attention.
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Can someone give me the rundown on cryo skills? Or just the cookie cut build, I want to snowroll my way through the game. Plus that shield mastery looks so good.
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>>148401352
That sounds like a great buff!
No more failed reincarnates due to random mobs.
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>>148400454
Mijin does work with clones anon
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>>148401924
That picture just showed it being removed from the list.
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Anyone have a list of recommended farming places per level range?
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>>148400242
>works with shield bash
holy jesus do they have any idea how op that is?
300% strike damage with 1k base damage now works with 5 clones?
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>>148402140
uhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>148401780
We're gonna get those kToS patches pretty soon, just you watch!
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>>148402140
What's going on here?
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>>148400242
Maybe shinobi rodelero is a thing now.
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>>148402140
>138k hp
welp
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>>148400624
what's the point in playing this game anymore?
Korean games need to have big numbers.
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>>148402140
FAIR AND BALANCED CARDS
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>go back to the church 40 levels later for a class quest and roll every over
felt so fucking good.
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>>148398573
Uh
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>tfw better than 2d
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>>148402329
I told everyone I was making a swordsman 3 rodelero 3 shinobi for PvP.

They laughed at me. Look who's laughing now.
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>>148400242
>shield bash is included
wow, rodelero bushin is basically the new thing unless theres some unlisted buffs for other shinobi skills
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>>148402481
What's the point of sword 3 with the card system coming?
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They'll make Necromicon useful in Necro3, r-right?

I want to believe, but I can't see they making something nice/interesting with necro3, mostly because I didn't like sorc3 I guess.
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>>148402481
I was leveling toward Rodelero3->Doppel but this is good too. Would be nice if targe smash was added also.
As it is rodeleros are going to murder the golem mission boss.
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>>148402773
Some stuff have stun resistance, at higher levels even with 40% stun you'll rarely if ever stun.
Sword 3 also lets you spam double slash with shitnobi, its just that its completely outclassed by rodlero/highlander/hoplite/etc now.

Sword 3 is now worthless outside pvp or specific pve mobs.
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>>148402805
What is necronomicon? Is it your card slot book for the shoggoth?
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>>148402836
How much does your slithering+highjump+shield bash combo do right now?
Since once shinobi comes out you'll do 6x that damage or 7x with a cleric divine might.

I want to know if its worth making a sword3rod3shinobi since it seems like it oculd be stronk.
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>>148402481
>>148402626
>>148402836
>>148403102
Rodebros, should I go sword/pelt2/rode3/shinobi, sword/pelt2/rode3/dopp or sword/pelt/barb/rode3/dopp
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>>148402447
>tfw IMC has such a low budget that they have to hire crossdressers
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>>148403102
Shinobi will always be a meme.
Keep in mind the moment you touch a revenged sevenfold you'll implode. Forget it if you plan on PvP'ing. There's a reason there are no shinobi at the top of the ladder.
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>>148400624

>skyliner from 0 to 15
>meme cloud stays the same


Kek. Thanks god I have a barb 3 fencer ready to enjoy the new warcry/pouncing madness
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>>148402805
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAodNLJtRJE
Never ever
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>>148403225
You can't trick me.
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>>148403365
>having such bad teamwork you can't just use stealth into a fight after someone has already removed the revenge sevenfold
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>>148403225
I would bang the one in the middle
If she has a dick
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Another interesting thing that's in the patch, there appears to be two new recipes for Exp Tome 2 and Exp Tome 3. The Exp Tome 2 can be crafted from 4 regular exp tomes and gives 120% exp, and the Exp Tome 3 gives 240% exp and crafted with 2 Exp Tome 2's. The recipes can just be purchased from Klaipeda or Orsha.

>>148403426
Frost cloud has the 10 + skill level target count. I think it's a target count too, not an aoe attack ratio.
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>>148403469
L-Let me dream anon, they'll make Necro3 fun... I k-know it!
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>>148399880
>now swordies get to be shit everywhere
gee that repo merge can't come soon enough
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>>148400242
Are we still getting the 500% to 50% nerf to Bunshin? And then add some useless skills aside from rodelero that nobody from the current Shinobi builds would ever think about building because all went Sword/Hoplite/Doppel variants?
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>>148404040
What's this nerf to Bunshin?
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>>148403928
Swordies are getting just off the top of my head:

Nearly all skills are getting their hitbox (aka their range) extended (e.g. fencers lunge or sept).

1.3* str scaling

80% resistance against ALL abnormal effects (50% when sprinting, 30% with pain barrier)

Barbarians get some sick buffs to pouncing and an additional overcharge for cleave not to mention cleave now boosts slash attacks by 50 fucking percent.

Theres probs more but I can't remember.
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>>148403928
Gooks are going to hate us
We gave them Skyliner and Steady Aim nerfs
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>Sword skills now scale with STR
>Every Swordie here was a full DEXer memer

Honestly, I'll wait this shitstorm to end before making a Swordsman, I don't want to reset/reroll a character, is such a waste of time/money.
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>>148404040
I believe that was a translation mistake. They changed the description of bunshin from having 5x clones to saying you take 50% more damage while active. I'm not sure why it can't just... list both, but the confusion was a result of that description change.
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>>148404113
I just said it.
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>>148402362
your summon shouldn't be dying anyway
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>>148404251
You didn't say anything that makes sense though.
500% what to 50% what?
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>>148404194
>now scale with str
No they don't, all they're getting is an additional 1.3x str which means at 280, you're getting 200-300 damage if even that.

Dex and its evasion will almost always be better unless you're something like doppel with skills that heavily benefit str (e.g. memeclone of many hits or deeds of wasting heals)
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>>148402140
>Rexipher card
NEED
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>>148403734

Well, when iTOS started, they give FC AoE Ratio mechanics, some weeks later they ported it to kTOS. They will change it again to prevent circling combos?

Also, how's steady aim?
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>>148404194

We'll probably get stats reset potions eventually. Core mechanics change like this are complicated to apply like this.

Anyway, you can easily level a swordsman to 170 without even using stats points.
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>>148404416
Changed from 3 * skill level to 5 + skill level, duration decreased to 10 seconds. Same as iToS?

Also, I don't recall seeing this before, it looks new. Concentrate scales with stats?
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>>148404748
>0.04 str scaling
Fucking nice, 300~ or so extra damage from concentrate isn't much but I'll take any boosts to swordshit.
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>they want swords to roll str


STR used to to 20% more dps than DEX, I wonder how much the discrepancy will be now which that changes...

J
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>>148404692
>changes all mechanics making all current builds bad
>add a new and shiny new tp item resets stats
>milking jews

And ToS is following the downhill cash grab thing that all mmos do before dying.
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>MORE STR BUFFS INSTEAD OF BUFFING SKILLS BASE DAMAGE, AOE RATIO AND WEAPON'S REACHED BASED ON WEAPON TYPE AND ATK SPEED


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>148405312
Too be fair the fact there isn't YET a stat reset is a problem by itself
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Should I cap CON? I'm going for Kabb as R7
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So what is the level range I need to be able to skip in the 100s?
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>>148405521
Skip what?
The only level range you need exp cards to get over is 170-175 because all the zones at that area suck balls.
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>>148405502
80 is where I stopped on my Druid2. You should probably be fine.
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>>148405367
>WEAPON'S REACHED BASED ON WEAPON TYPE AND ATK SPEED
But skill hitboxes are being improved overall regardless of weapon type, which ensures only Swordies get the hitbox improvements?
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>>148405152
Even if str was any better than it is now, people would still go full dex meme simply because of survivability.

Unless you want to shekel out for expensive as fuck plate armour, dex will always be significantly better.
>>148405367
Isn't the fact that spears get extra range/ aoe ratio (finestra) among other stuff the whole issue with swordies in the first place?
Its because non-spear swordies suck so bad theres an issue right now.
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Is highlander>doppel worth making?
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>>148402140
>significantly lower atk than shoggoth
>which never dies at 22.5k hp/166 con
uhmmmm
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>>148404367
A clone usually does an exact copy of your damage (100%), but some data showed it would be nerfed to 10%. But just like >>148404235 being a translation error, don't hold my word for it. I knew about that just now.
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>>148405852

Only builds that really enjoy these changes are... finestraman builds, others simply can't crit enough without finestra (that is awesome for our current lv cap) and a heavy dex usage like 1:2 str/dex ratio. Archer's are more prone to roll low/dexless builds because SS gives you 25% more crit rate and this works even for gems and gears, plus, they gain critical rate with levels.

Finestraman will just roll high str builds now, thanks to finestra, doppel, dragoon c2 / lancer, great aoe ratio and spear reach/hitbox while fencers, zweihanders and the others will just wear cute outfits.

Rodeleros at least will get a strong strike combo and will be able to roll pvp high con builds with pseudo CC immunity and a chance to bypass dark theurge tirany with a well-timed slith
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>Instead of giving us any of the good shit gooks have, we get to watch the world burn as our exclusive nerfs stop being so exclusive
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>clover fighting wildfire right in front of me
>can't find any of our war despite trying REALLY hard
So this is what NTR feels like.
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>>148406298
Doesn't it feel great anon to watch the world burn? I know I'm certainly enjoying the fact almost all the korean skyliner spamming swordies are now worthless and contemplating suciide (aka quitting).
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>>148368113
>a wandering 270 plague doctor was curious while I was questing
>what's your level?
>say 230
>um why are you taking just 1 damage from archers?
UUHHMMMM
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>>148406235
Is the 1:2 str/dex for if you have finestra or without?
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How is corsair 3 in pve? I want to be a cute pirate with a gun.
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>>148406475
Did you teach him your ways? In exchange for ERP of course
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>>148406465
>Koreans rage about this change
>IMC immediately changes it back
>For Korea
>Refuse to admit they fucked up with iToS
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>>148406524
You should be going zero dex if you're going the standard doppelgoon with hoplite.
The reason for this is because all of your classes skills scale heavily off str whilst being bad for dex (e.g. finetra lowers your evasion).
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>>148404396
>pic
But what if I'm a boy peltasta...?
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>>148406568
You're a tauntbot with the bonus of having flag and being able to wield manamana.
After the korean pistol buff you'll be able to do some decent ranged damage on top of your already decent spearlunge+hexen combo.
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>>148406849
what if i went barb 2
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>>148406912
You're a tauntbot with the flag addon without the bonus of the occasional damage addon.

No-one cares so long as you have pelt 1 anyways.
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>>148406654
Leveling a rodelero, took hoplite at R3. Was initially led to believe that dex for crit would be better due the shield skills being single hits. Not sure if that's actually true since slithering/highkick effectively gives you extra str scaling.
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>>148405643
Ah, so I'm good to use cards as needed for now then.
I can't wait for that level range though, just cause I'll be at or nearly at c6.
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>>148406621
Nah, I told my tosg guild about it.
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>>148406708
They deserve it too
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>>148406849
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1132288d.354555.35.4a85.1a2531557485.25314455

How's this? it doesn't suck that much?
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>>148407347
How does double weapon assault work with cross guard or are you going to weapon swap meme (which isn't bad as long as you have good ping/aren't in gvg or wb)
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>>148407347
>Gung Ho 5
>No Bash 3
Would not touch lewdly.
>>
What are the 5 most popular c7s you see? Been seeing a lot of monks, Shinobis, Warlocks, Musketeers and Fletchers
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>>148407727
Chronos
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Anyone know where the claria shield drops?

https://tos.neet.tv/items/7141034

My gut feeling says mobs from cranto coast due to its crafting mats but doing the quests/kill counts on two chars there hasn't netted anything
>>
When's ToS gonna get this?
http://mabinogi.nexon.com/C3/News/Event.asp?mode=view&aid=99&ReadSn=4884777
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>>148407727
Autopot-macro farm builds
They really need to get mass banned.
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>>148407727
Depends on level range, most stuff like monk meme and shitnobi stop after 230-240~.

Most common for me at storage are elememelock, chronos (of which I've seen pyro, linker and cyro variants), musketeers and fletchers.

Most of the time even after 3+ shouts our group still can't seem to find a pelt and sometimes our elememe leaves due to this
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>>148407910
Somehwere in these 220 maps
But why you look for it? It's shit
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>>148407727
Chrono, Necro, Alchemist, Plague Doctor, Druid
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>>148407971
Wow are high level warriors really that rare? My highest level is only 209. Maybe I'll make one and take it all the fucking way.
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>>148407813
Not even close, it drops from sventi exile or whatever that snowy map is called.
I know this because I have it.
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>Currently sitting on enough cards to gain 10 levels
Granted, I just hit a curve reset, but still neato.

>>148407727
>Musket is popular
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Which guild pvps the most?
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>>148408056
High level warriors are generally Templars or Squires. Otherwise, Dragoons or Doppels.
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>>148408172
Any of the guilds that participate in the gbl (guild battle league).
If you're asking about participating and winning than none of them.
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>>148393767
What would the skill point allocation look like?
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>>148408094
Oh thanks lad, I'm slowly working my way through the kill counts and sventi is on my list today
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>>148408209
Is there any particular reason why it's Templars or Squires? I can understand drags and doppels but I can't imagine why Templars and squires would be so popular. However, I'm thinking Corsair2 into some random c7 or Fencer.
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>>148408260
>Winning
>GBL
Impossible.
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>>148408172
>ToS
>PvP
Nice joke
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Uhmm...
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>>148408312
Templars are the only ones that can make guilds and are r7. Squires are just the most popular swords I ever see, since they make shops everywhere. Drags and Doppels are the ones I actually see in dungeons/missions/field.
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>>148408312
Templars because guild functions - having multiple Temps means having guild officers.

And Squire repairs aren't infinite, plus you can still make a miniscule profit margin.
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>>148408286
Not that anon but I presume max turn undead, 3 at the very least restoration, max resist elements, max barrier, max stone skin (probs not needed since full spr but ehhh), max aspersion, not sure about the rest.
I might be wrong though
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>>148408260
How you can win something without any reward or ranking?
You can't win a GvG because there is nothing to win
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>>148407480
>>148407565

I don't know shit about swordsman thanks for advice
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Does bird for falconer use character slot?
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>>148408891
yes all companions do
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>>148408891
yes, all pets use character slots and contribute to total level
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>>148408260
if you die to lolipan then you lose lgbt. if lolipan gets more than zero kills we win
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>>148408930
>>148408956
What a shitty mechanics.
Can you use Hanging Shot with musket at least?
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>>148409074
yes? hanging shot only allows auto attacks which just means you use running meme into hanging meme
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Is Aias worth getting? Does the blockrate 2 do much or is it mainly the +84 block and crit resist?
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>>148409165
It's the +84 block and crit resist
those are huge amounts m8
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>>148409046
I like this rule. I like this rule a lot.
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>>148409165
2x blockrate instead of 1x blockrate is how I understand it
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>>148409157
Is hanging meme worth it? I'm trying to pick 1 circle for archer. Can't decide so I'm trying to get advantages and disadvantages of each written down.

Choice is between archer3, scout, rogue and falconer.
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>kToS balance updates are in the update, they appear to be all the skill changes we had on iToS since the beginning.
welp
im out
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>>148409391
Scout
>>
>it's a Aias' ^2 block rate discussion rerun
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>>148409391
Hanging meme is only really worth it if you have running meme or want to bug your way past iron doors in 200 dungeon.
>>
I love cocks.
>>
Which guild isn't shit?
>>
So now that concentrate scales with your str and concentrate level, is anyone actually going to go full str swordie or is everyone still going full dex meme?
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>>148409453
LAMO
REST IN PEACES KTOS
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>>148409391

circling plays very nicely with covering fire, hanging meme is one point for the movement speed utility at most because it slows down your auto attack while active (you still get partially faster with running shot, but the hanging shot penalty is added after all bonuses)
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>>148409391
scout is the best utility you can get in archer
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>>148409632
The one im in
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>>148409632
Comfy
Coffee
Kotastu
Clover
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What about:

Hunter + Falconer + SR.

>hanging shot growling mounted pet while running around with retreat shot active
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>>148409584
we know moonie
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>>148407347
Drop 3 levels in Gung Ho and transfer it to Bash for the knockdown attribute.

For Corsair, just leave 1 level in Dust Devil and transfer it all to Iron Hook. Hook is really useful especially for high-level mobs. Hook 3 nigs, bunshin + kunai. You may want to drop 2 levels in DWA to max your hook because you're just gonna use DWA if your skills are on cd anyway.

Now, the thing with Highlander variant for the Cross Guard buff is that you'll have no control when to burst all your skills and this reasons:

1. Your combo would consist of Bunshin + Crossguard and wait until it hits you. This is risky because you take additional damage when clones are out so when the enemy launches a spell you can get killed.

2. You also won't be able to do Hook + Bunshin + Kunai combo to its fullest because you won't be able to land your crossguard in hooked enemies.

3. Your DWA would be useless because highlander uses 2-handed swords.

That is why hop2 variants are more preferred than any sword variants.
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>>148409462
I only glanced over that discussion, can you give me the gist of it please?
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>running shot nerfed
>iTOS nerfs coming to kTOS
man
I wish you guys knew how to read korean because the korean tree of savior boards are so filled with rage you could use it as a natural energy source
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>>148409815
cant use hunter skills whilst mounted
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>>148409805
Cunts
Cunts
Kunts
Cunts
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>>148409862
They know our pain now
I say let them burn
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>>148409632
the harsh truth is that all guilds are shit
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Is Ignition Rod any good for a Chaplain build?
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>>148409862
What's the running shot nerf?
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>>148409862

why would they nerf running shot while magic arrow and frost cloud are still rampant
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>>148410238
I think it's the no animation cancelling thing where you could attack at insane speeds.
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how do i get items if i cant use the auction house for another 5 days?
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>>148410358
We already got that "nerf" and it did nothing to running shot. It actually only changed animation cancelling for some swordsmen and wizards.
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>>148410358

oh. that nerf came to us a while ago. thats nothing to panic about.
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>>148410423
Use drops/quest weapons
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>>148410423
You use quest drops which should cover your equipment needs till 200+ before you can leech of the grynas event and be fine.

The only time you'll ever really need to buy equipment is the 170-220 range between the last decent quest set and grynas.
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>>148410423
Cry
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>>148409456
>>148409727
Invisibility sure looks good, but are the statuses worth it? And what do you even need barrel for? I doubt you can attack from it and most of physical attacks are already rather easy to dodge.

>>148409681
Are other skills decent or Falconer is only for Circling and qt sprite?
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>>148410735

pheasant has infinite aoe ratio so its a hard hitting big group scatter, i guess. beyond that? nope. if you go falconer, you go for the circling party utility.
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>>148408704
Technically you don't get any rewards by raping people too.

You feels good after that, that's it. Same with gvg.
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>>148410620
>>148410628
i have 30 hours and dont have a single cool item i think i'll go with >>148410653
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>>148409247
>>148409046
>mfw we've had entire wars where Lolipan never got a kill
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>>148410879
What server are you on cutie?
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>checking hanging shot
>no %attribute

lol, same shit as DWA.

While I understand that Running shot + hanging with attribute would be broken, they could just cancel RS when hanging. Yes I don't like QS at all, they can burn in hell for what I care
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I want to be free from this suffering
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>>148410958
Well, not surprising.
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>>148410958
You have had wars where your guild was dropping like flies against an enemy with half your numbers. What's the problem?
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Why can't TOS do GVG like in RO's WoE?
Tera's battlegrounds is similar to this too with castle siege, ladder choke points, gate defense, static defense towers, catapults, zeppelin drops.

Instead their current GvG arena mechanics will spawn you anywhere NEAR the fucking tower which still results to spawn camping. It's fucking useless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MitA4PeRuPs
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>>148409165
how does blockrate even fit into calculations?
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>>148411256
Read the code.
blkChance=(blkRate-blkPen) + fizz() + buzz();
if blkChance > 1
fizzbuzz();
return false;
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>>148411246
wait. when was this?
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>>148409862
>iTOS nerfs coming to kTOS
We won't get 0cd Skyliner? I knoe 0cd is kinda broken but why IMC hates highlanders so much while constantly buffing barbarians? At least they could give catar attribute shortening its cast time by 1/2 or even 2/3 and make 2h sword crit attribute give 50% more crit damage insetad of crit atk. Or change it to fucking 50% crit rate.
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>>148411759
>>
>Call: Obtain
>If [Call] is used, the hawk has a 50% chance of fetching small items.
>small items

wut
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>>148411938
Because barbs are literally a garbage joke class right now that no-one besides retards and fencers play.
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>>148412169

Good fencers goes highlander too
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>>148412046

he brings back stuff like pebbles and potions
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>>148412270
You mean people with good ping go highlander for weapon swap meme.
It also means you will never ever even attempt to pvp, gvg or world boss which I guess isn't that much a loss since fencers suck at it anyways.
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>>148411937
When they got slaughtered in a chokepoint like the battle of Thermopylae.
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Is Barb2>Sair2>Shinobi really THAT much worse than Hop>Sair2>Shinobi asin the dps difference? I really don't like the clunky feeling of spears.
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>>148412169
>stun spam
>all those damage buffs
>have all types of attacks
>pouncing
>4 skills have 2-3 charges
>garbage
The only bad thing about their skills are cooldowns longer than highlander. And now they're getting massive +50% slash bonus on top of having 50% crit and bonus damage on stunned enemies already on Cleave.
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>>148412554
Spear Lunge makes you do 50% more with your Kunai x12, go figure.
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What's the best Equipment (end game) a Chaplain/Kabb should get?
And also, in which attribute should i drop my silver?
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>>148412554
The difference is like the heavens and the earth due to finestra and spear lunge.
Barbsairshinobis do around less than 20% the damage of hoplite variants due to spear lunge boosting everything from kunai to hexen to dwa whilst finestra giving a huge boost to your crit rate and aoe ratio.

Theres a reason people say not to trust the garbage thats on tosbase that are either out of date or just plain retarded.
Barbsair shinobis are literal garbage which is why most shinobis who follow that shitty guide from tosbase reroll around 230.

All shinobis at maven are those that are hoplite/fencer with the occasional highlander that didn't realise that we don't have ktos skyliner 0cd.
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>>148412554
You'll do at the very least 2x more damage as hoplite but probably more like 4-5x more damage.

Spear lunge kunai spam is godly not to mention finestra crit rate among other shit.
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>>148412935
What's the fencer one? I've heard about it since Fencer also applies the pierce debuff.

Also, what if I decide to go Corsair3? Is hoplite still a necessity on cor3?
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>>148412521

Not about the weapon swap only, past 200 moulinet very high critical chance 5 hits > seism 3,3 hits (1,67 mob on each hit).

3x Skyliner + bleeding > 2x Cleave + stun.

Regarding strike damage, Cartar Stroke >>>>>>>> Helm Chopper. Cartar stroke lv 1 alone outdamages Seism 10 easily by the time you get to fencer.

Pouncing is a bad joke, at least Giant Swing is a good joke that makes you laugh, Frenzy sux.

The only skill of barbarian kit that really shines is Warcry, but the cooldown is retarded high.

iTOS Barbarian is only good at the moment in killing trash mobs faster thanks to better hitbox/aoe ratio skills and stunning.
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>>148409074
Hanging Shot does not work with musket. You can't cast HS with musk out and if you try to swap to musk while hanging it simply ends.
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>>148365942
what is the cheapest builds for each of the 4 class lines? I mean builds that cost the least to play and little to no upkeep of consumables to burn in order to use skills
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>>148413098
The three meta builds in ktos are:
Sword3>Pelt>whatever>fencer>shinobi
Sword3>hop2>whatever>shinobi
Sword3>Highlander2>whatever>shinobi

Hoplite or highlander means you focus on str, fencer means you focus on dex.
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>>148413205
Fencer
Elelock
QS
Paladin
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This game has a cool aesthetic, but I've heard nothing but negative things.

If I have no intention of spending real money on it, is it worth it to try it out? Or will I be so gimped that I shouldn't bother?
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>>148413410
>Fencer
>Rapiers
>Cheapest
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Are there any Swordsman builds that have good damage (relative to swordsman) while taking peltasta 2 or 3?
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>>148413475
This is one of the least p2w games there is mostly due to company incompetency but true nontheless.

You won't ever need to spend a single shekel to enjoy the game unless you care about cashshop costumes to look "cute".
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>>148413580

Catacombs Rapier is amazing and pretty cheap. Repair cost wise, once you get venier, you can fix it at the NPC for almost nothing just like memedagger because of the very low base physical attack.
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>>148413410
Paladin means either priest (spr) or diev (str) and both need materials which add up over time.

Fencer has trash durability rapier
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>>148413205
Doppel
Chrono
QS
Krivis
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>>148413757
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11333699.1123334355.3f.b5.1a5a
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>>148413987
>>148413580
Shh.
I'm not a misinfo agent.
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>>148413987
krivi paladin here. turning it into a pardoner later
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Is there any point in maxing skills that get only flat damage per skill level? Sooner or later your weapon attack will do most of damage anyway.
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>>148413159
I recognize that Mitter
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>>148415056
Yes it does matter because that base damage also gets multiplied by the attribute bonus and even at 280 your stats don't ever get stupid enough to where the base damage is irrelevant.
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>>148415056
It depends on how much flat damage it gave, and if you have better skill to invest.
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>so many builds that look unique and fun
>game is so linear you're forced to go through the same exact leveling route for each character
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>>148415474
Theres both orsha and klaipedia sides for a reason.
You'll only really get bored the third time and after unless you followed the "do both sides at once" meme.
You can also easily grind without doing quests for better exp.
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>>148415642
>you can grind
Hahaha
ha
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>>148415267
>>148415443
Surely 100% more damage from Bash or Thrust base damage will make huge difference. Maxing Dragoon or Doppel skills is worth it now because these are endgame classes in current game state. But as we'll be getting more classes, more stats, better weapons, these skill base damages will be dropping.
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>>148415684
You level faster grinding than actually doing quests anon.
Examples are tenet church, constructors and legwyn event.

Only retards and shitters bother doing those level 1-3 exp card quests when they're uneeded.
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>>148415718
Oh sorry thought we were talking about stuff that's actually in the game instead of theoretical level 500+ classes and weapons.
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>>148415931
Doesn't even need 500+ classes. Just R8 or R9. Just look at current builds leaving lot of skills on lvl1 while getting maxed skills only on 1-2 last classes. If you add 1-2 more classes, you'll regret not putting these skills into buffs or something.
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>>148406398
hot boy
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I wish I could read korean to enjoy all the buttblasting in their forums
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>>148416502
are you implying anyone even plays ktos anymore?
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>>148416502
but they've already been jumping ship to itos
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>>148416502
Link something here and lets have fun with google translator
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Who is /tosg/'s most eligible bachelor and to what guild and server does he belong?
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bee leech open for beesness, whisper for an invite, will be wake for another hour
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>>148417232
Probably one of the cube sharing fletchers or someone in the bee mafia

Namedropping isn't cute
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>>148417232
Bachelor(male) or bachelor(faggot)
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>>148417232
that was Null, and he is gone now.
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Why is my friends list going dark?
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>>148417384
Which server has bee mafia and are they recruiting?

>>148417386
Either one
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dead game dead thread dead opportunities.

N A M E D R O P someone you miss ;_;
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>>148417931
Lalaco
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>>148417931
Kusarihime.
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>>148417931
Moonie
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>>148417931
nonimo
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>>148417931
Flet
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>>148417931
milk
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>>148416089
>still talking about imaginary skills

Some kind of new shitposting?
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>>148418883
nah. its some kind of 'futureproof theorycrafting' shitposting
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>>148417931
Licoriceee
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>>148406114
That's not a necromancer.

Rexipher is literally summoned as your bitch and probably has an aoe -sp ultimate attack.
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>>148418883
>>148418975
>expecting a higher rank to be shittier than a lower rank
/tosg/ exceeds my expectations in regards to how stupid one can get
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>>148419348
ply te gam
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>>148419531
I'm playing it.
I don't wanna play anymore.
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>>148419348
Actually most higher ranks are a lot worse than lower ranks before them.
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>>148419606
>most
>most
yeah m8, how about you list them here straight from your ass?
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>>148419348
>he thinks templar is better than all 6 ranks below it
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>>148419776
>he only listed one
>the one that makes the guild itself
>ability to call for reinforcements
>not better
pla teh gam
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>>148419696
Featherfoot
Oracle
Necromancer
Kabalist
Falconeer
Rodelero
For example
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im depressed as fuck, is this game not garbo anymore?
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>>148419869
>Featherfoot
Debatable, bring it up again when C2 is here
>Oracle
You're probably a shitter that doesn't know about counterspell and prophecy
>Necromancer
I can't hear you with my flesh cannon dick in your mouth
>Kabalist
Look at them tats, faggot.
>Falconeer
Birds are cool as fuck, faggot.
>Rodelero
Only cucks like lolipan will defend this class.
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>>148419927
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Say hi to AFK Police
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>>148420365
Fuck off AFKer
useless cunts
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>>148419847
>a higher rank
>singular
>wants more than one
>list useless benefits


Retard confirmed.

Have your last {you).
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>>148420365
oh yes
>>148420425
ikr
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>>148420513
>most of them
>list them then
>posts only one
>gets rekt anyway
>complains for being called out on his stupidity
How retarded are you?
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> cyrokino
> scouts
> catagoons

why do people actually enjoy pvp in this game?
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>>148420781
it makes me feel like i have mad skills of a pro
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>wants to be a shieldmaiden
>learn about rodel because they have shield bash
>learned that they kinda suck everywhere except PvP
>even then there are much better choices
>>
If I use /name [insert name here] what will change? My team name or my character name?
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>>148421257
char name
it costs TP
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>>148421257
Character nanme
Also -9 TP
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>>148420989
>lolipan mating chirping noises
Just you wait, someone will reply to straighten your resolve.
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>>148421379
I swear it has nothing to do with rodelposting. I just like offensive shield bearer classes in general.
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>>148420989
Despite lolipan's cuckoldry
Rodel with corsair iron hook is a huge team support in arena, you can shut down 3 players in a 5v5.
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>>148421513
>Rodel with corsair iron hook is a huge team support
Any fucking swordsman with Corsair can do that retard.
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>>148421308
>>148421298
Thanks anon
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>>148421582
>shuffling someone's stats with a shield bash in pvp
>not game changing
Don't compare the lot of iToS players to the good ones.
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>>148421683
>shuffling someone's stats with a shield bash in pvp
>tier 1 debuff that requires you to be in melee range
>Not a 100% chance and it can be resisted
Play the game
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>>148421782
dispellers are disabled in arena
you have lots of chances where they won't have a cleric for immunity

>resisted
if you want to bring that up, any status ailment can be resisted, retard.
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>>148421513

More like 1 player and 2 pets, 2 players if you're lucky, but be ready to eat 2x zaibas/pole of agony as soon as you hook someone.

Remove pets from the arena, IMC.
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>>148421782
Rodelero
- Shield Push
- This skill is now a level 2 Debuff. ( Previously level 1)
- Shield Shoving
- This skill is now a level 2 Debuff. ( Previously level 1)
- Shield Bash
- This skill is now a level 2 Debuff. ( Previously level 1)

PLAY THE GAME RETARD
REEEEEEEEEE
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>>148421929

They need to move some other swordsman skill to rank 2, like Attaque Coquille (fucking r6 spell), Crosscut, Shock, Arrest [?] and some others.
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>>148421993
Same could be said for other skills
Elementalist stone curse level 1? Why would you invest in that if it's just one?
>>
Holy shit, I got 6! SIX silver mobs in two days with my alt and now I got a monster gem at DP

I wasted all my luck for the next 2 months
>>
These concentration changes and some other swordsman stuff is okay, but we need to fuel more meme power into it to make it meme worthy like ele3 and that other aoe archer build.
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kTOS Memelander on suicide list
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>>148422629
>R3 Fletcher on suicide watch everywhere
Hahaha haha oh wow
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>>148422629
YES EAT SHIT LINKER C1
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>>148422758
dis gonna be good
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>>148422821
Unless you want to clear ET, Linker c1+dandel gem is enough for soloing purpose
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>>148422629

>40% of the remaining playerbase will left

I really think IMC has something against Nexon and this is a coupe. They will just say: Oh, sorry, we are just synchronizing our versions, that one was a mistake! But the damage will be already done.
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>>148422993
>we want only the autistic whales to stay
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>>148422629
So elememe FC just 5 second or what?
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>>148422993
>>148423039
I-I just started, are you guys telling me its already dying(dead)?
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>>148423073
it's Your AoE atk ratio + 10 for FC
no more unlimited targets
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>>148423107
Yes
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>>148423073
Nah it just kTOS will get our shitty version of skills
We already have 15 aoe ratio frost cloud and linker nerf from the start
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>>148422629
>Fluid Blast
>Leaving Fluid
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>>148423130
That's good. So falconers and other classes will be a lot more desirable in grind party.
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>>148423215
Source?
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>>148423158
Even then the meme cloud is still strong and joint penalty is still good.
>>
TBQBBQFAMALAM, I wish we had 6x overheat skyliner on a higher cd
>>
Reminder to milk your cow. All cows deserve to be cared for and tended to. Even those with short hair.
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>>148423492
Isn't 3 the highest overheat we have on this game?
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>>148423550
Thanks for the reminder, Rance.
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>>148423550
Especially boy cows
they need it the most
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>>148422629

>the absoulte fucking state of memelanders

Sudoku yourself my man
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>>148423590
Teardown has 4.
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>>148422629

yfw we had the ktos changes all along
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>>148423606
Not everyone who loves a cow is automatically Rance!
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>>148423672
I see.
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>>148423590
>>148423672
I believe Archer3 has five, and pretty low cooldown too
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>>148423550
Thanks, milking my Lalacow right now!
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>>148423550
It's not bed time yet, but I will be sure to milk my cow when it is.
>>
D E A D B R E A D
D E A D G A M E
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>>148424929
>>
>>148404872
>0.04 STR

Nah, it's 0.56 if maxed (0.6 if gemmed/dm). But still this basically confirms IMC does not play their game. At best, this makes 15 points (and two circles wasted on swordsman) to have a bonus 490 damage with 650 STR, and while this is seemingly cool, it is not applied to multiple instances of damage and only multihit will really benefit off of it.

This after orbit nuking SwordC3 Shinobi.
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>>148424987
>orbit nuking swordc3 shinobi
NOTHING WAS CHANGED YOU MISSINFO AGENT.
You take 450% less damage, its just that over variants of shinobi got buffed.
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>>148425131
Thus nerfing Sword C3.

>Oh they made Thaumaturge get their own frost cloud that deals more damage and more hits.
>LOLOLOL THEY NEVER NERFED ELEMENTALIST UFKIN MISINFO AGENT

Focus your braincells.
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>>148423145
okay, serious question though

is it so dead, that only circlejerks exist? or can you still "enjoy" the game casually now and then?
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>>148390268
I have arrived.
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>>148425280
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>>148425218
The game is fine. The attention whore circlejerk on the general is irrelevant.

Try the game, you may or may not like it. But it's a decent game regardless.
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>>148425363
I just finished the first Area and so far its OK, I suppose. The Keyboard controls instead of mouse is kinda weird. I also think I already fucked up my Attributes for my Class :^)
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How much damage a 150 str 300 dex lv 5 concentrate will give?
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>>148425468
I like mouse control personally. You can set it by hitting esc and clicking on the gear.

Swordsman is the exception. Swordsman with the Xbox One controller is comfy as FUCK and if you're a swordsman you should REALLY try it.

Other than that, yeah. Stick to mouse control.
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>>148425541
>mouse control
>can't interact with fucking anything
Don't do it senpai
>>
>>148425468
Just saying everybody is laughing at you right now.
>>
>the concentrate buff will only make spiritual chain chronos more popular so swordcucks can buff their archers overlords
>>
Give. Us. Skill. Scaling. And. Higher. Aoe. Attack. Ratio. You. Dumb. Fucking. Cunt. Kim.
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>>148425347
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>>148425468
Are you a kraut?
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>>148425743
Or alternatively play the fucking game.

+Hitbox for Sadhu is nice but NOBODY FUCKING USES OOB, IT'S FUCKING DOGSHIT, EXPLOSION EVEN WORSE, WHO THE HECK THOUGH 1.2+ CAST TIME ALONGSIDE WITH DESYNC FOR SOME MEAGER DAMAGE WAS A GOOD IDEA.
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>>148425985
m-maybe, but I already swapped the Y/Z.
my gripe is, that the standard controls are arrowkeys and not wasd
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>>148425541
>not being keyboard mouse hybrid and can switch freely with a macro
5/10 not comfy playing enough
>>
3 MEMES YOU FELL FOR

>SW
>DPK
>THIS GAME FUCK YOU ALL
>>
Remember to tender love and cuddle your Owls
For their hardwork
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>>148425743

+50 skill atk per skill lvl isn't enough?
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>>148426448
>All that time and effort wasted on a ded game.
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>>148426515
>wasted meme
theres no value ion anything unless you give it value anon, all video games are just pixels on screens
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>>148426371
>Party Play encouraged aside from Miss/Dungeons and few grinding spots, it's best to play with friends than randoms
>Grind, Gameplay Focused MMORPG
>Varied class system
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>>148426682
Party play is encouraged in over 70% of the game (aka everything past 200), everything from grinding to world boss to gvg.

I'll give you this one since its questhub spam for first 200 levels outside tenet, constructors, legwyn, demon prison d2 and bees

The class system is varied, its just unbalanced as fuck.
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>>148426819
>(aka everything past 200)
>mfw I'm still solo at 230
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>>148426448
>Aias
lmeow
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>>148426205
Teach me senpai
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>>148426819
>Party play is encouraged in over 70% of the game (aka everything past 200), everything from grinding to world boss to gvg.

>You need to be high level to enjoy party play. Also it's just World Boss and GvG because it's pretty much confirmed the sole reason to grind is because devs haven't added ktos quests yet.
It's a good game, it introduces grind making casuals leave and makes 90% of the game quest for people who enjoy grind to leave.

Here, a (You), cherish it. Maybe if you shout louder the game will start rising in population rather than dropping down harder and harder.
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>>148426448
>he thinks getting Lolopanther boots and gloves is something worth consideration
/tosg/ is truly bad
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>>148426879
>he didn't grind comfy alemeth
I hope you enjoyed wasting your cranto coast and other level 11 exp cards before the 248-252 wall
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>>148426980
You can grind all the way to 200 with only doing main quests/dungeons/missions without any real loss until 170~ where you will want to quest a bit to have enough cards to hit 175 for 175 dungeon.
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What happened to Cave-chan?
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>Fletchers are ruining world boss as a whole
>Frost cloud by itself put to shame build completely dedicated to aoe (sapper/wugu) with one skill thus making almost every build looks like shit.
>Nerfs skills that probably needed it but are nowhere near as broken as those two
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>>148427114
I miss our monk
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>>148417931
Licorice, Nonimo, Kusarihime, and DasuDasu hit me the hardest.
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>>148426448
Wow, just look at that MASSIVE set bonus. Just kidding, it's not impressive at all.
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>>148427139
>frost cloud by itself
you forgot quick cast anon which takes 3 circles
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>>148426448
>posting my picture

Post the full picture if you can shitter :^).
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>>148426929
My setup is, remove the wasd controls so it still matches the keyboard (I got used to keyboard first)
Put Input Switcher addon and have /inputswitch toggle in your F8 macro.

>>148426986
I solo'd alemeth when I was an elememe before I changed servers.
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>>148426986
elememe gain same exp rate and 5x silver rate by soloing unless you find an optimised party in alemeth.

Luckily most shitter elememe didn't realize that.
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>>148427139
>nerf frost cloud
>wizard became support class

>nerf magic arrow
>fletcher 3 became shit class just like what happened to swordsman

The only solution is to destroy the game
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>>148427493
It turned into a point that I didn't care for optimized parties as long as I get to play with people.
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>>148427765
are you me, I literally don't care about exp rates after 200 levels of near solo with only missions/dungeons
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>>148427304
Oh nice!
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Any high level sorcerer here ? How's the TS damage scaling at 200+ ?
I'm at Sorc1 right now and my TS can crit for 5-6k combined and i don't really have any problem regarding summon ai, so i have some doubt whether to take sorc2 or get another class for burst damage
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>>148428045
Choose between having Sorc as a filler class like an alchemist or commit to it and get Sorc2/3
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I'm relaly glad I get to play with you guys

I hope if this game doesn't die then we can stay playing.

Have a good night nerds.
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>>148428114
I just want to know how relevant the summon at higher level
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Lolipan is looking for peeps to do 200 dungeon. Why aren't you joining?
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>Those kTOS patchnotes

The East now shall know the West's suffering.
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>>148428238
fuck him
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>>148428234
It will still be an asset and carry you in questing/leveling, but I doubt you'll find it useful in world bossing and it will die pretty fast in pvp/gvg but hey, at least it soaked up damage that's meant for you.
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Why dont they just give Highlander c3 an attribute to make Skyliner have 2 sec CD and 30 more sp?
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I was ready to pump 9 millions into skyliner attribute, top kek. Maybe I'll just go back to my barbarian and split the money into cleave, pouncing and shit.
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>>148428341
>OP skills get nerfed
>m-m-m-m-muh suffering
Literally a retard.
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>they nerfed skyliner and jp on ktos
Christ, so this means that ktos is completely dead. Because majority of players were those meme classes and nerfing it then would mean fucking them up and losing them. What a move.
>>148428653
Why dont they just balance the game like humans, not dumb asian sea monkeys? They suck balls, everyday. There isnt a single one competent guy at imc.
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>>148428045
Sorc 3 or gtfo.
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Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooly shit why are modern gamers such entitled babies?
Nerfing anything is now illegal because they'll stomp their feet and threaten to quit the game, call it dead, and shitpost instead of just going away like they claim.
Back in my days when shit got nerfed we just moved to the next strongest thing like nothing happened, or learned to play the game properly instead of exploiting an OP part.
YOU are what's wrong with modern MMOs. Blame devs all you want, but you can't fix your retardedness.
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>>148429278
When you try to balance your game, all your players will see are the nerfs not the buffs.
I showed the kTOS patch notes to a guildie and all he said was "so nothing new" when it literally has changes in every date.
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>>148429278
m8
I think people shitpost and call it dead because it's a fucking mess
class imbalance and nerfs are just a piss in the ocean when it comes to the problems with this game.
Jump off IMC's dick for a second, put your wallet away and try to think straight.
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>>148429278
No, people will leave because the game is fucking trash and the devs make it a worse experience by nerfing.

>modern
You must be 18 or above to browse 4chan. Even before people would threaten to quit if certain changes went through, which would force devs to ponder a lot before actually pushing nerfs/buffs, difference was those games were good, and ToS is an absolute trainwreck. Nobody is invested in it either, the game has barely anything to do, everyone is already leaving, guilds disbanding, etc. That's what happens when you ditch your niche and try to pander to MMO hoppers, you get MMO hoppers, who see ToS as nothing but another free kMMO, even worse, a shitty kMMO.
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>>148428045
>>148428234
If I use my INT set (max peta never) giving me 586 INT, my TS does around 4.4k (6.7k crit) x 2 per attack.
It's nowhere near the output of an Ele3 or Necro2, but it's still relevant in endgame PvE that's not ET or WBs.
You have to wait longer to kill mobs than the nuke classes, but you do it with the safety of your own tank, boss summons can soak up a fair bit of damage if they're not underleveled.

Where it shines though is in PvP, 8-9k damage per attack is plenty relevant there, considering it's autonomous and unaffected by lag or fps drops.
Sure, people can focus it down quick if they made the effort, but it's supposed to trail behind you and do good damage after you use your nukes, not wade in alone ahead of you.

Go Necro2 if you want a more tactical playstyle with a powerful ranged nuke and sentry towers, go Sorc2Warlock if you want to wade into the fight and just blowing all your skills.
Only consider Sorc3 if you really like TS and Bats, which offer better targeting options.
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>>148429801
When do you think they'll fix Sorc3 final skills?
>>
>gets home from work
>looks at friendlist
>this dudes been in crystal mines 1F for almost three days now

What am I missing here?
>>
>>148430108
mithril
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>>148430108
he ded
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>>148430143
>>148430153
Am I an irresponsible friend if I don't go and check on him?
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>>148430090
Probably when R8 comes out, and even then maybe not.
But if we'll be getting balance changes the same rate as kToS, they might get around to it someday.
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>>148430213
dpends. is he playing a cute boy?
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>>148430213
Your friend became a bot.
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>>148430280
He is playing a cute SR grill

>>148430301
aren't we all bots?
>>
>>148430385
Well excuse me, unlike other bots, I have feelings too.
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>>148403225
someone shop the left girl with a pepe
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What build should I use for my second character (max is lv103) if i want to use pistols?
I'm pretty noob and have no intentions to pvp
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>>148430676
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>>148430773
Either SR or Sair
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>>148430773
qs3
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>>148422629
concentrate will turn into the next self blessing for swordies?maybe making taking sw2 or sw3 worth taking?a bit
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>>148429278
You should fucking see futureproof guild chat
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>>148429801
I'm at linker1/sorc1 right now, would linker 1 enough for necro2 ?
5 target and 50 max hit seems a bit too little, a fucking qs3 can break my JP in 5 sec
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>>148431267
Post screencaps. Lolipan won't know it's you.
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>>148431058
>ill sacrifice peltasta/hl/hoplite/barb for 490 damage (if pump str) or 238 damage (if dex)

jesus christ (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU)
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>>148431297
Linker1 is more than enough for soloing, since you only need it to set up Flesh Cannon.
Cat buffs also give you +5 AoE ratio, so Sorc1 is actually a decent dip for Necro builds.
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>>148430871
if i take sr, should i get there faster with ranger than with quarrel shooter?
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>>148431560
at least it'll be good for those who already picked sw3, reason why i said """maybe""" and a bit
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>>148431645
The reason qs3 is taken is because the retreat meme bug that lets you retreat shot whilst using running meme aa which is a marked dps increase
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>>148431762
but would it make getting the exp required to get sr faster or slower? I'm not worried about endgame dps
>>
SW3 NEW META

>stun all day erry day with new 60% stun
>tank like a bawws with new pain barrier that grants cc immunity
>le dps madman with new concentrate
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Just got Ravinepede boot and noticed the poison increase, I think I'll go Wugushi C3 to max zhendu so I get optimum use for the boots. Also hunt for poison based gears.
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>>148428803
>good skills get nerfed and become useless
>useless skills stay useless

when everyone is useless, no one will be.
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>>148432286
>le dps madman with new concentrate
>dps

Sure m8, but you did take 1 rank of peltasta right ? We need a swashbuckling boy for our group
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>>148432374
i don't think basing your build on some crappy boots that give only 9 poison damage is the best idea
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>>148432513
But it's gonna stack right? Like the poison bow
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>>148431412
I don't care about that, everyone is entitled their own opinion. Just saying that bringing iTOS nerfs to kTOS at this point was a mistake. They should've done it back when iTOS launched. It would have been bad, but they allowed it to keep going and decided to completely fuck over a core skill way too late into the game. People who invested into Skyliner-based characters will probably quit in droves. They should've done it way back.

And there is absolutely no justification for nerfing that skill that strongly. 3 casts every 15 seconds is just garbage. If they hit my characters with a nerf this big, I'd consider quitting, too.

30%/60% restrain was nice though, but it wasn't the problem with Restrain. 20%/40% was enough already, the problem is the short uptime compared to the huge cooldown.
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>>148432506

I have warcry and jolly roger. That's enough taunt, newfriend.
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>>148432628
>>148432628
i don't even know, but that poison damage will add to everything anyways, and even then, its only nine(9) damage, maybe useful if you're lv 40 and an autoattacker with cafrisun+sacra
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>>148432374
>>148432628
I'll trade you my Viper for 2 Mithrils.
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>>148429278
>>148431412
>>148432773
Because scrolling up guild chat is too hard for you Lolipan.
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FUCKING BOT SPY
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>>148432773
>le x was a mistake meme
Those retards who went for OP stuff have only themselves to blame. I thought you, the non-conventional build artisan, would understand it the best.
Only those who are unable to play the game properly would quit over this.
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>>148432946
Jolly Roger doesn't taunt anymore, and Warcry's aoe is laughably tiny. You're no taunt but that's no problem.
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>>148432773
>niggas thought we were going to get ktos buffs instead of ktos getting itos nerfs
Seriously you guys are either incredibly stupid or overly optimistic or probably both.
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>>148433079
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>>148433079
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HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
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>>148433079
>rance was drunk
i missed my chance ;-;
>>
>MUH META BUILD
>MUH HIDDEN INTERACTION BUILD
I told you guys not to make builds based on "meta" or "hidden interactions" that IMC never even bothered to clarify if working as intended or not. I told you to go 3 circles in a class if you want to be future proof. IMC is coming for you guys. You're all going to get fucked sooner or later.
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>>148433176
It's me, ya boy, sfdghsf

>>148433185
Lolipan x dvine in charge of doom posting
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>>148433306
>>148433306
Migrate lads.
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