Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

http://pastebin.com/sHHbXqmJ

kys bot along with your necro sperg friend

nth for bot the savior

>things rance likes now includes carbombs
>in addition to pvp, bully, cows, senrans and rape
truly the best tosg husbando

>>148433306
>centurion was originally meant to be a rank 7 class
or am I reading that op image wrong?

Someone can give a tl;dr of these guildchat logs leaks?

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>>148433338
If you're so triggered that IMC is actually applying changes into their game just fucking quit.

>>148433508
they took it out of rank6 and put fencer in

Fixing broken skills is the right thing to do and not just leaving it broken and just adjusting a number and calling it a day. Lolipan and dvine really have no idea what they're talking about.

>>148433306
shit, how old is that picture?
>centurion rank 6

>>148433546
bot and dvine are two sperglords.
Not the first time they argue for the sake of arguing.

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what's it mean

>>148433079
>drunk Rance tries to diffuse the situation and cheer everyone up
>gets ignored, wishes everyone goodnight and goes to milk his cow
You guys don't deserve him.

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>>148433683

Good night, anons. I hope you all get plenty of talt!

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>>148433619
The problem wasn't changing it, the problem was nerfing it too strongly. You easily do 3 Skyliners per second(with korean ping), but now you can only do 3 every 15 seconds. Skyliner wasn't strong at all, and half of the stuff in this game is immune to bleed.

quick, give me a hot and sexy linker 3 build

>>148433779
Except it was OP. Every swordsman build in ktos goes high2 for 0 cd skyliner. If you can't tell something is wrong with that then you're retarded.

Yes swordsman sucks overall as a whole, but that doesn't mean you should just make one skill OP to fix the problem and just leave it as is.

>>148434000
Yes, it has to be changed. The problem is nerfing a skill from "absolutely must have it" tier, down to hot garbage tier.

Though the biggest failure overall was waiting all this time to address the problem at all.

>>148434000
>Except it was OP
I love this, /tosg/ can go so low to the point to call Highlander OP just to have an argument for the nerf.

>>148434000
>Except it was OP. Every swordsman build in ktos goes high2 for 0 cd skyliner.
Just because everyone took it doesn't mean it's op, it was literally the swashbuckling of DPS swordsmen.

>>148434016
People are arguing about whether or not IMC is killing their game. dvine and Lolipan think changing Skyliner is a mistake and that it will kill ktos because of the "100 millions of silvers" invested in their highlander, dvine saying "98% damage reduction" nerf is unheard of. sfdghsf is saying that IMC actually applying balance change is a good thing and that it happens in every other MMO.

>>148434158
It's not hot garbage, it's just a rank 3 skill now that's balanced for when you get it. That's what they meant when they said they're nerfing skills that were way too effective.

>>148434181
>>148434210
>people basing their entire build around a rank 3 spammable skill for their entire dps rotation at rank 7
>it's not OP guys
kysmm

>>148434231
Ktos is already dead, it doesn't matter what they do, so they might as well fix it.

I told you guys itos will become the new standard for balance and you laughed at me.

>>148434240
>NO FROST CLOUD NERFS THAT MATTER
>NO MAGIC ARROW NERFS
Yeah they're totally nerfing whats too effective

>>148433306
>badhu

>>148434231
>nerfing swordsman
>balance change
kek

Might as well buff Frost Cloud and Dark Theurge.

>>148434442
You're absolutely right, those need nerfs too. And it's retarded they're not getting nerfs yet.

But we're not talking about frost cloud and magic arrow vs skyliner. We're just talking about skyliner and whether it should get nerfed or not.

Maybe try to follow the context of the argument before you try and insert another argument ontop of it.

>western players will literally complain about the most useless of whole tree classes having one good skill
and then you wonder why most publishers dont go western or give a shit about the western population

>>148434643
>another idiot
Read >>148434684
No one is arguing swordsman vs other classes now, it's purely "skyliner, nerf or not?".

Did someone say Swordsman3 is gonna be good?

C-Cuz I have one...please don't bully me guys...

>>148434751
>shifting goalposts
Why do you guys like to do this? Also not a westerner.

lolipan just kick this cuck already i already told you he's the source of all shitposting

>>148434834
Yes.

>>148434231
They guy with the bot name is right. Skyliner needed the nerf, so did Cyclone, IMC's mistake was not giving something else to those nerfed classes that relied on those skills. Before you ask yeah, Frost Cloud needs a nerf, idk about Magic Arrow.

>>148434786
How about you fucking balance the class to a normal state before you fucking gut its overpowered skills first?
Like how difficult can the idea of actually giving them other skills and buffs to compensate before fucking making them into a piece of shit that you wouldn't even look at?
>>148434867
Fuck off le filipino

>>148434786
And that's why your game has less players than a decade old one.
Good job.

>>148434834
They're going to be "better" but not good in any sense of the word.
All sword3 are getting are basically a 500~ damage buff to their concentrate provided you dumped every single point up to 280 including bonus into str.

>>148434870
Hey. Botchan just likes debates and trying to prove ideas right.

I myself like battling ideas with botchan.

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>>148434231
Their game was dead before arrival and they also rushed the ambulance by releasing a buggy game for official release. They then proceed to kill the dead horse by applying tons of restrictions because of muh bot prevention. Skills are nerfed and buffed depending on how the developers want it, no player has any right to say about it because they are not the ones that make the game's code. It all depends on how competent these devs are in balancing a game.

I am not surprised that retards like dvine and lolipan believe otherwise. It just became the norm that players go full attentionwhore and threat to quit and yet they're still playing the damned dead game.

>>148434181
>>148434306

>Now the class is absolute useless and don't even need to be picked

kiss you softly.

>>148434000
By this logic we don't need to nerf elementalist and flecher, just remove they from the game, because people just make those classes because 1 retarded skill that makes 90% of the classes in the game useless.

>>148435000
and also falseflagging anonymously like a gigantic faggot piece of shit

>>148434231
bot is right

>>148434751
Everything that's overperforming should get balanced. No exceptions. This means skyliner, frostcloud, magic arrow, quickcast etc etc.

Just because the most useless of whole tree classes have one overperforming skill to carry them, doesn't mean you should leave it as is. That's just bad balance.

Everything overperforming needs to be looked at and then balanced, if you can't even understand this then you should just quit.

>>148434927
I would, but I'm not IMC. Also not even a flip, care to guess again?

>people think 0 CD skyline is overpowered
oh yes thats why you see 0 people using it in PvP and only as a "oh fuck all of my other cooldowns are down" skill

>>148435154

>overperforming
>skyliner

play the game

>>148433564
dvine was also defending 50% quick cast bonus damage yesterday, he knows that if IMC has the balls to nerf skyliner now then quickcast is highly likely to be nerfed and he's invested a lot of silver in his one shot flesh cannon build. At least that's what I'd guess.

>>148435000
You mean drama and dramamongering and also just plain shitting up the thread

>>148434306
That's the thing, it's not OP, it's barely even passable at high level gameplay, shit does no fucking damage, it's just the only consistent damage a swordsman has, next to Cyclone which is also nerfed.

If archer sucked again and their best skill has oblique shot would you call oblique shot OP? no, it's just the best skill.
You're literally saying the oblique shot of the swordsman is OP.

>>148434934
>completely irrelevant argument because he has nothing better to say
kek

>>148435037
>every swordsman class picking high2 for their rank 2 and 3 is the same as wiz going eleme3 or archers going fletcher3
please

>>148434751
That's because they wasted their shekels in Magic Arrow and Frost Cloud attributes and don't want anything else to be OP, so all their "EFFORT" is not wasted.

While SWORDSMAN is nerfed, Flechers and Elementalists still living the dream os the most effortless class in the game that no one touches.

>>148435294
The truth with this game is that 3-5 classes are currentlycompletely broken, and most people are basing balance around them.

Swordie damage isn't even that shit compared to 90% of the archer or wizard classes, but they have nothing broken so it is seens as such.

>>148435442
>Swordie damage isn't even that shit compared to 90% of the archer or wizard classes, but they have nothing broken so it is seens as such.
Excuse me you forgot to fucking include cleric in there bazoople

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>>148435327
>every swordsman class picking high2 for their rank 2 and 3 is the same as wiz going eleme3 or archers going fletcher3

Oh, so that's the excuse that you tell to yourself? You're just retarded then, no point in arguing.

You prob just have a elememe/flecher and don't want nothing else coming closer to that.

>>148435238
>talking about pve
>pvp guise
kek you know you're wrong when you start bringing irrelevant shit into the argument

>>148435291
>>148435310
I already addressed this
>spamming a rank 3 skill at rank 7
Skyliner is also way better than oblique shot, it's not even the same comparison.

>>148435154
>overperforming
>ET still nearly unbeatable unless you bring the "overperforming" classes, even then requires RMT tier gear

I'd say everything else is underperforming, if you ask me.

>>148435327
>every wizard going wiz3 is not the same thing as every swordsman taking highlander2

uhh?

>>148435238
In a game where the class diversity is one of its main appeals, why would a single class be run by every build in that tree only because it gives you a 0cd skill? You might argue that the skill itself isn't overpowered, but it certainly was in comparison with the other skills Highlander has, and it overcebtralisef the meta.

Again, I believe the problem wasn't needing muh 0cd Skyliner, but not buffing the rest of its kit into good tier afterwards.

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>people who only played WoW clones and RO trying to talk about balance
I'm glad they asked reddit for feedback instead of us.

Someone link that video of 5 Highlanders doing ET so we can shut the mouth of these swordfags telling that it wasn't OP.

>>148435538
Why is it relevant when you get the skill?
We wouldn't need to spam a rank 3 skill if IMC weren't absolutely retarded and had more than 4 skills (that don't do any damage and have high cooldowns) per class.

>>148435534
Are you retarded? highlander 2 is a rank 3, and then you can end your build with whatever choice you want for rank 4567.

Elemes are forced to lock their rank 456 in and fletchers 567. It's not the fucking same you retard.

If you want to make a fair comparison then it's highlander 2 vs archer 3. Eleme and fletchers are already end game ranks.

You fucking retards, god. You all fucking retards, all of you. Stupid hopeless bastards.

>>148435538

address it harder

even at 0 cd youre only hitting skyliner when your other shit is on cd

>>148435560
>I'd say everything else is underperforming, if you ask me.
This.
Quick cast into Ele3 is the ONLY viable dps tree for wizard, instead of nerfing that they should buff the other dps classes.
If you nerf that the wizard will become a support tree only, at least for pve.

Just look at Moulinet. Nobody in korea put more than 1 point into it, because you could use Skyliner 3 times instead in the time it'd take you to cast it.
This is "good balance" according to you, retards.

>>148435560
>every wizard going wiz3 is not the same thing as every swordsman taking highlander2
Yes QC needs to be nerfed, I agree. IMC is retarded for not nerfing it yet and if they haven't bothered yet they probably never will. Kim probably plays a wiz 3
>inb4 IMC playing their own game

>>148435538
the "and only" part is about PvE you fucking retard

>>148435672
Because based off IMCs class design logic, low rank skills are not meant to be comparable to high rank skills.

Just look at cannoneer and musketeer. They completely outclass any other lower rank damage skill that isn't a DoT.

But this is a bigger fundamental problem with their entire class ranking system as a whole and would require them to revamp the entire system which I doubt they'll do.

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Why only paladin C1?

>>148435000
>Botchan just likes debates and trying to prove ideas right
No, it's usually a huge "I'm always right you're wrong retard" clusterfuck.

But this time he's right, people is trying too hard to understand a meta that they aren't following.

>>148435920
>can't even understand his own sentence
>calls me a retard
How about you learn english first.

>>148435779
In reality, Wizard has few non r7 DPS classes (pyro, kyno, elememe) and frost cloud is just too good of an aoe skill

best way to balance the game would be 15s cd on meme arrow

remove running shot and replace with pavise super-buff

and move the peltasta aggro skill to swordsman c3

>>148435651
pretty sure reddit is full of those people that you just described

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we did it reddit
two servers and one of them is dead as a doorknob, on the other theres a protest squad about the merge

>try to spread weet weet all over 4chan
>they call me a faggot and to kill myself and to go back to my dead as shit game
;_;

>>148436232
If you give swordman more offensive output, pelt will be less dominant. Case in point: ktos, where everyone and their mothers runner high2, has few pelt1. Swordsman3 already has his PvP niche

>>148436058
>cutting off his name

>>148436249
At least upboats keep them from going full retard.

>>148436420
>Update
It's Saintone, so I guess he's asking this for ET. But Barrier is a C3 skill.

>>148435651
nice arguments mate

>>148436318
Come here cutie, I'll give you a hug.

best way to balance this game would be to nerf the blatantly overpowered shit;

QC
magic arrow
frost cloud
skyliner

but also buff every other skill in the game to acceptable damage levels, while giving them overheats and significantly lower cooldown
if i have to fucking basic attack a nigga one more time cause all my skills are on cooldown and it still isn't dead im going to lose it

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>mfw Doubleslash now has better DPS than Skyliner
more like Cucklanders amirite?

I guess the dumb reddit browsing SEAmonkeys were right, roll wizele or quit

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>>148436627
That's exactly what IMC is doing, but average MMO player has attention span of a goldfish and if something isn't done now, it's dead game.

Remember, Rome wasn't built in a day. They'll nerf elememes and fletchers in two weeks.

>>148436836
>there are people who actually believe this

>>148436893
doomposter out

>>148436627
>>148436836
It's just unfortunate that modern gamers are all retarded. We'll never get back the golden ages of mmorpgs before the wowbabies invaded.

>>148436445
probably restoration scrolls for higher heals

>Fletcher:
>- Divine Machine Arrow:
>(Old) - Duration of 10s.
>(New) - Duration of 1.5s

>Bokor:
>- Effigy:
>(Old) - Deals bonus damage on the 3rd attack.
>(New) - Continuous use deals bonus damage that applies on every 3rd cast.

ummm

>tfw almost fell for the swordsman will have actual dps when the repository merge happens meme
thank god I didn't for that meme

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>>148436267
>tfw Orsha is alive again

>>148437121
Oh hey I just ran past you

>>148437098
>Nerfing Bokor

Holy shit, pvpfags are cancer whenever they are.

>>148437121
That maid is a real cutie!

>>148433079
>>148433185
>>148433338
>>148433564
wanna pve?
>et floor 7 is bugged
wanna pvp?
>war limit, neutrality, and no gvg/arena
wanna play casually with friends?
>questing has been broken for 2 weeks
wanna enjoy great game play?
>2fps broken engine that will never be fixed

they don't got time to make the game better for players but they got time to nerf stuff that's not game breaking and will make players quit en masse. try and fix the fucking game to keep players before you "balance" and lose them genius. the game needs to be fun and keep players before you and apply arbitrary "balance" shit which makes them quit.


>>148435294
i lost more substantial stuff with real monetary value tied to it than futureproof combined but kept playing due to the game being good. if i walk away from this game it's cause 2fps with no content not cause they make my class weaker. the fact they wanna drive away players before trying to keep them is what makes this a problem.

>>148437172
Oh yeah, you're that Krivis

>>148437276
>maid outfit
>cleric only
kill me

>>148437303
et and party only broken on itos

>>148437303
>he thinks it's all the same people working on different aspects of the game
Anon, they have teams for different things. At least the good game development studios do.

>>148437303
>He thinks the world revolves around him
Stay salty you autistic man child.

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>>148437568
>Teams
>Not 2-3 wage slave employees and one rich chink calling the shots

Holy shit, thanks for the laughs anon, made my day.

>>148437538
yes ofc. if crucial stuff like that bugs in ktos, they fix it within 2-3 days.

>>148437538
>bleeding players in itos cause bad choices
>bleeding players in ktos cause bad choices
this is imc making the worst choice in every situation

I've been taking screenies of kTOS players and I have literally out of the last 50 people I've checked on seen only four (4) highlanders (one of them was highlander one (1)).
That's a ratio of 0.08 highlanders per swordie, not counting the squireboys who were all 3 pelt or something other than highlander.

On the positive side, namechanges are 1 TP right now, get em while they're hot and change your name lolipan.

What are the best boy costumes?

>>148437826
>he didn't read the spoiler
>the joke
>your head

>>148437974
>On the positive side, namechanges are 1 TP right now, get em while they're hot and change your name lolipan.
isnt that char-name? not team-name?

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>>148437121
I want a maid costume

>>148438203
yup

>>148438224
i want a maid

>>148438396
i could be your maid if i had a maid costume

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meanwhile in another realm
in another game
alive

>>148438646
what are we looking at?

>>148436836
Pretty sure they have no intention of buffing anything and just letting the shit classes stay shit while they add another rank with 2000% + 50,000 Damage skills

>>148438730
an alive game

>>148438730
credit card warrior game, only allowed to play if you pay at least $5k or you'll be literally garbage

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/klaipeda-crimson-knights-crimson-hardcore-competitive-international-guild/133617/299

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/klaipeda-desu-hardcore-discord-english-friendly/283201/68

Quality gold in there

>>148439030
>only allowed to play if you pay at least $5k or you'll be literally garbage
what the fuck are you smoking

>>148439030
So like 99,99% of the online games that we have today? Jeez! What a shitty game!

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So... what do I do now?
Magic Missiles and Quickcast are a given, I guess, so maybe something like:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111a.2a3f6a7585

>>148438646
>25 people per channel
>look! alive!

>>148439243
Its more like 400-500 to be passable and 1000-2000 to be decent but his point is still valid.
You've probs never played maplestory at the higher levels if you think its not an rmt + cashshop festival.

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http://pastebin.com/sHHbXqmJ
>1. The damage on some skills were dealing twice the normal amount unintentionally.

Was this happening on iToS? Are PP, Hellbreath, and BloodSucking all half power now?


http://mabinogi.nexon.net/News/Announcements/1/00IxM
~3 hours before I can leave this game. It's been fun.

>>148439387
I've never played the shit versions (NA/EU) so I guess that might be true?

>>148439396
>Nerfing Pyro and Featherslut

ONLY ELEMEMES/WALORCKS ALLOWED

>>148439350
Max reflect shield, max magic meme, max quick meme, 5 min in surespell, max sleep and rest into lethargy.

If you're never going to solo than you can safely ignore reflect shield outside 3 points for attribute and knockback resistance

>>148439396
>mabinogi
oh shit thanks dude I almost forgot that that the japanese version is having a falling star event

>>148439396
>everyone talking about how good feather linker was
>turns out it was a bug all along
TOP KEK

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>>148438646
>game was more dead than a corpse, literally 200 players worldwide on steam
>went F2P
>game is more than alive than ToS

>>148439681
Man, they're fucking up nearly as bad as tree of savior and they're still getting more players despite needing a DX11 card to play the game.

>>148439460
look up "maplestory potential lines", or anything related to "cubes" or "potential"

>>148439396
6. You now have a delay when trying to Change Channel/ Character Select / Log Out when in Combat Mode.
- When attempting to do so otherwise, a window will open with a 10 second counter. The counter resets back to 10 seconds if you attack anything.

RIP cc veterans

>>148439905
>needing a DX11 card to play the game
Aren't literally all the video cards around now with DX11?

>>148439681
You do understand its just the f2p hype right?
Tree of savior had this exact same hype and reached 50k+ players just like evolve before dropping down to its current 15k players just like how evolve has dropped within 2 days from 50k to 38k.

Please go shill your garbage elsewhere or use logic

>>148439565
Didn't they remove knockback resistance on reflect shield?

>cleric1/priest3/chap/oracle1
is there a way to save this build ?

>Swordsman:
> - Concentrate:
> - On top of the Regular bonus, Further damage given is now added to the calculation with the formula:
> ※ (STR * 0.04 + DEX * 0.02) * (Skill Lv - 1)

> - Restrain:
> - Stun Chance effect: The chance for a stun to occur has been changed to 6% per Level. ( Previously 4% )

Pretty cool it you ask me, but dex should have had a better scaling

>>148439396
So the whole reason featherlinker memes exists isn't because the class is actually strong but because its a bugged class that was doing double the normal damage.

Are all /tosg/ featherfoot shitters who didn't go the one true king build of elememelock committing suicide yet?

>>148440615
Take Cleric2 for r7

>>148440635
>dexfags

>>148440635
Swordman one is fucking shit. Not worth going C3 neither putting the points in concentration. Devs are fucking retarded.

>>148440709
DEX should have a higher scaling because STR automatically gains 10% per rank.

>>148440635
>Pretty cool it you ask me, but dex should have had a better scaling

Yeah, make DEX even more relevant than it is now, why not.

>>148437121
do you regret that build

>>148440830
>dex
>relevant for pve swordsman
What are you smoking

>>148440823
>>148440830

like the blessing bonus formula
(0.06*SPR+0.02*INT)*(SkillLv-1)

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>- Hellbreath:
>- Fixed error where the skill damage was doubling itself.

>>148440973
Is there any company more out of touch with their own game?

I'm honest. I don't think they've logged in the game ever.

>>148433079
>Skyliner also comes from a rank 2 class
Can people stop saying this? This is plain misinfo. Call it rank 3 skill, because that's the earliest rank you can get it on.

>>148440791
>Why 4 chan is shit .jpg
Look at me I'm a retard from an a super sekret elite website of spotty 15 year old weabs

C3 Wiz C3 Thaum FF here.

I shout anywhere from 5-20x a day for Storage. I've been locked in this level bracket for about 2 weeks with no reliable means of getting exp outside of my 3x missions and praying I can either get a party together or am invited into one (normally as a last ditch effort by a party who just got tired of waiting 1 hour for their ideal candidate).

I think everyone has the right to be picky. I'm picky. If it were up to me I'd pick "Chronolinker + Krivis/PD or Druid + Pelt + Falconer" to compliment my own character. Every character benefits from the buffs, Krivis has a steady Daino (and either additional AOE as Druid or PD to take advantage of hexing/lethargy/shrinks etc), Linker to spread my FF damages and MM, Pelt for the swash and swordie exp role (otherwise could pick up a Cryo3, and Falconer for the MM circling + archer role + high single target for linker or additional aoe deeps depending on their build.

>>148433079
>98% damage reduction
Is he retarded? He's literally implying that you can't do anything when Skyliner is on cooldown. You have (you should have) lots of other skills that you can use while it's on cooldown, and then you can auto-attack.

>>148441340
lmao should have gone elememe/cryochrono/pelt/cleric2 retard

>m-muh builds
You must be 18 or above to browse 4chan.

>>148440907
>STR swordsman in PvE

Enjoy being bad.

>>148440726
For a lvl 5 skill, it's not that much of a deal, but it makes a lot of difference for the PvP memers that were going sword3 anyway, especially the Restrain buff. Better than nothing

>>148441340
pt2

But I can say for certain, from my experience, that people don't stop to think "hey, maybe the player is good" and instead rely solely on "hey, that class tree isn't going to be as fast as so-and-so class, so nope, isn't even meta" and... I can't blame them. I'm no memelock. I can't dish out those numbers... on my own. Mathematically though? In the right setup I can easily contribute more DPS to a grind than even a ele/lock. But that is because I bring buffs and debuffs to the party and they deliver my contribution for me, where I have to rely on a linker to deal my own individual lines most effectively.

What honestly bugs me though is.. okay, I understand-- not everyone will know the value I can bring to a grind and, a lot of the times, not every party will be set up for me to make an optimal contribution... or hell, even a halfway decent one. That's cool, no sweat, you do you and I'll keep waiting to find a party, hope you find what you're looking for. I honestly don't mind being refused based off of stereotypes or lack of knowledge concerning the picks I made. But what really gets to me is how I can be refused and, for the next hour, I shout the whole time that I'm looking for a party and you shout that whole hour that you're looking for a pelt, while we both stand in town beside each other.

>>148441469
>Dex is better for swordsman
>When Deeds of Valour and Finestra exist
Proofs?

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>>148441340
>>148441548
>Im a special snowflake that contributes more to the party than elememes I swear!
Your blog is shit and you should kill yourself

Newgirl here.

What's a good cleric build for instant invites to everything?

>>148441872
monk without cleric 2

>>148441548
You don't bring no value to a group, fuck, you even went motherfucking Wiz3 to deal NODAMAGE. You don't contribute with your buffs either, there are classes that contribute without damage, Linker, Falconner, etc. You don't, your buffs aren't relevant, your buffs just add shit and makes everyone's buff run out.

reroll or kys, don't blogpost about being shit and not getting free get carried card Cryochrono or Linkers struggle to get.

>>148441419
He is retarded he doesnt even play the game and just afk at bees. Guy has an immature sense of entitlement.

>>148441872
cleric 3 diev 3 kabbalist 1

>>148441872
monk outfit and pink hair

>>148441434
>>148441785
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/users/darkon/activity

>>148441872
>girl
Hi
Asl?
Are you in a relationship?
Do you like strong masculine guys or cute feminine ones, because I can be both.
I can also cook.
Please respond.

>>148441340
Parties in general are pretty dead or very hard to form up. As a wageslave, I only had one maven party on my pelt this week and wasnt able to solo create one myself. Storage seems to be the sweet spot where most people are at. I can wait 2 hours before getting evac party on my alt.

@148442136
sent you a pm ;) ^^

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>Fedimian Jews quitted the game and now there are no Skill Scroll in the market place but few daino leftovers

>>148442258
>quitted
You must be 18 or older to post here.

>>148442421
I say this to people too until I found out "quitted' was an actual word.

>>148442421
Lose weight.

>>148442421
lose humanity

>>148433185
>Skyliner is borderline useless now
It's still the best damage skill of Highlander, except against plate where Cartar will obviously win. Even without bleed.

>they could've given it like 5 overcharges
>and 7 second cooldown
Or maybe they could buff rest of Highlander kit instead of keeping it a one skill class?

>>148442757
But one skill class is all IMC does.

>FC
>QC
>Magic Arrow
>Rune of Ice
>Swashbuckling

>>148442984
First there are getting nerfs, Swashbuckling is getting alternatives soon.

>>148442984
And they have been trying to change that, if you haven't noticed.

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>>148441928

>>148441583
>dex only give crit
mein nigger

>>148441548
That's why you need to make the parties yourself retardo

Are you ■■■■■■■ serious? Rather than getting perfectly acceptable exp for that hour, maybe even upwards of 12m/h still if you have a Chrono, you continue to spam for a pelt while I am forced to sit here spamming for a party? Take the ■■■■■■■ exp by inviting me and politely remind me that since I'm not the pelt you're looking for that you will continue to spam for a pelt while we grind and, once you find one, I'll have to leave the party. That's all-- I'll be happy for the 10 min-5 hours of exp while you try desperately to shout for what you really wanted; your party will be happy because they are also getting exp; you'll be happy because, hey, you're getting exp and not just standing around in town for whatever period of time.

So the next time you find yourself spamming for a specific person, be it chrono, pelt, dps, whatever (aside from healer, that's pretty important most of the time lol), just take that player who has been shouting for a grind and let them know that they can stay in the party until you find what you are looking for. That way everyone is happy, gets exp (any > zero, playing > sitting in town staring at chat), and the party can still get what they really need and politely kick the filler when they find that perfect class.

Whats the best two handed sword before lolomeme? is it still magi?

>>148443123
>>148443132
yes they changed it by softly nerfing the only skills they have, but they are still one skill classes.

boy you guys are kinda sad, i guess thats what happens when you invest yourself in these shitty gook cashgrab mmos, doppel c2 2h skills,falcon c2, sr c2, etc are still absolute shit but people honest to god believe they are going to fix anything in this game. with the addition of new 9 classes, which they wont balance because the rest of the game is a mess, and more 18 ranks, which once again are not going to be balanced, it's hilarious that people even sport the thought of this being solved rather than becoming worse.

>>148440791
>explaining 4chan to some autistkid who has no idea what autistic means
You're just as autistic man. Just say sorry, no and ignore him.

>>148439565
>Max reflect shield
For what purpose?

That skills absolutely terribad, though, it'd be amusing to see what it'd be like on pure Spr build.

>>148435574
>why would a single class be run by every build in that tree only because it gives you a 0cd skill?
And yet that same tree also is pressured to go one circle into a class that turns them into a taunt bot.

>>148443376
>two handed sword
>after skyliner nerfs
kysmm
Magi or Nulis

>>148443570
Not him but swash should've been a sword 1 skill if they wanted everyone in the sword tree to take it.

>>148443218
Let's stop talking in green text, shall we? DPS wise, str is more beneficial to swordsman, as they have no swift step/sneak hit, making reach 100% crit chance almost impossible. This is aggravated by that change in str gains and this Concentrate buff.

Of course dex has other use, but DPS wise swordsmen are more focused on STR

>>148443815
>Let's stop talking in green text, shall we?

You belong on Reddit. Stop trying to change something 4chan has been doing for nearly a decade, you cocksucking underage faggot.

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>>148443402
>all the attentionwhores are leaving
>IMC is now fixing shit
>forced unfunny memes are dying
>KTOS merging soon
>afk sorc getting banned
>swordman buff soon
>pvp arena soon
>more cute costumes
>heart pupils soon

TOS IS SAVED

Should I bother with khasti bow and isbality or just get a 220 superior white?

>>148443570
It's gonna get alternatives soon. Can't sadly say more.

>>148443574
thanks mate

still have high hopes for my highlancer c3

;__;

>>148443913
kill yourself filthy seamonkey

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>>148443737
They are making mad dosh from retards who reroll and buy more token and whatnot, why would they?

>>148443913
>IMC is now fixing shit
[citation needed]
>KTOS merging soon
Because it's been so dead.
>afk sorc getting banned
[citation needed]
>swordman buff soon
*kTOS only.
Good, maybe now they'll be able to compete with conversion mobs of Zooracles.
>pvp arena soon
[citation needed]
>more cute costumes
>heart pupils soon
Nexon property. Denied.

Addendum: Play the game.

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>>148443913
>instances still exist
>war still needs consent
into the trash

>>148443570
Which again wasn't the case when you had 0cd Skyliner, or even before in the betas.

>Omg are u advocating for the return of hahaman
No, I just want to show how pelt wouldn't be so requested if swordsman had more options, for instance highlander not being so bad.

>>148443893
The thing is, all you can do is green text without actually addressing what he's saying. Green texting is fine if you're actually able to convey your arguments. All you do is shit post instead of actually participating in a proper discussion.

>>148443815
Not him but dex is better than str if 0.5(base skill damage + physical attack) >= str

>>148443737
Exactly.
Pelt could be a heavily defensive/control class.
Get rid of Thrust, literally no one uses it, and put Swashbuckling there instead.
Or, you know, give another class the options for it.
If they'd buff pets and adjust it a bit, Hunter could be a really good class for grabbing attention (as it is, Growling is amazing at locking down masses of enemies).
Paladin could get an aggro skill.
Thaum or something could get an aggro skill.
etc.

>>148443948
>Stuff getting fixed/adjusted
>In ToS

>>148444082
That's still wrong.
Pelt is wanted because it's amazing at pulling groups. Otherwise everyone has to run around and depending on the area it could be dangerous for some builds to try to pull anything.
Sword could get real buffs and the ability to build for ele/fletcher tier damage and people would still want someone with a rank in pelt.

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>>148443893
Just wanted to write a concise post supporting my view on the issue, and stop the
>Hurr
chain of pseudo arguments going on between me and the other guy, I don't want to act like amisinformation agents. After all, I'm here for the serious discussions

>>148443913
>kTOS merging soon
Are you talking about the codebase itself or the servers on kTOS? Because the servers merged a while ago.

>>148443815
You're retarded.

You can't do damage if YOU'RE DEAD, monsters later on does more damage than you can tank in basically everywhere, and you're one of the few melee classes in the game, you'll take more damage than anyone else by default.

STR in a high end is better than DEX dmg wise, and ONLY THAT, Dex is better for everything else, which makes it a better stat to prioritize.

>>148444376
>>Stuff getting fixed/adjusted
>>In ToS
QS and Paladin tanks soon

>>148443570
You don't have to be a taunt bot if they added quests to the game past 230

Which they did

>>148443815
>Let's stop talking in green text, shall we?

SEE LOLIPAN SEE WHAT YOU DID

>>148443913
>all the attentionwhores are leaving
Oh my sweet summer child.

>>148444446
What are dungeons for 1000, Alex?

>>148444436
>QS tanks
Laughable, because you'll never get one that has any idea how to handle having attention on them.

>>148444598
>you'll never get one
So play one?

>>148443941
I'd get a khasti, cheap and easy to craft. If you're on klai, I'll give you a recipe

>>148444598
Dungeons are in dire need of exp buffs

Also you can be whatever you want when queuing for dungeons

>>148444410
>You can't do damage if YOU'RE DEAD, monsters later on does more damage than you can tank in basically everywhere, and you're one of the few melee classes in the game, you'll take more damage than anyone else by default.
Please stop using evasion as an argument for dex and pve. Nothing will kill you if you actually have 170 or 220 armor. You're most likely going to die from magic instead of physical attacks.

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I've been off the game for some months and I will come back for pvp arenas, is the game dead?

I can't check now, but can someone tell me how many onlines it usually has?

>>148444376
>Pelt could be a heavily defensive/control class.
That is not even what Pelt is supposed to be. That could be Rode. Pelt is about taunting and drawing enemy attention and striking and retreating. Having them as tanks is the mistake.

Giving other classes better taunts is a good idea, or at least the ability to keep aggro of large groups of enemies. There are skills that cause enemies to become taunted but you can't hold them as aggro beyond the cap.

They best thing they could do is just make it worth taking something that isn't pelt and can't taunt because it gives you way more power.

On second thought, holding aggro beyond the cap should be the swordsman inherent attribute and not something from swashbuckle.

>>148443354
I can feel your anger on this one. Maybe you just had a bad timing where there are dumb party leaders. Usually I see in chat "pm if full", so I guess they are willing to invite some fillers before getting the members they want. And have you politely asked them that you'll leave if there's someone coming? Better suck up to them if you really want to be in a party.

>>148444932
no, but imc want to kill this game.

>>148444401
Will iToS be the only region with a true inter-server battle league?

>>148440879
No, it's ok

>>148443354
>Roll a shit class
>P-Please accept me as the retard that I am!

kyss you seriously

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>>148443151
>>148441872
Hi! Few things to start off with =]
1. Yes I added you because you are a female gamer, 'tis a great thing to see!
2. I'm Brian
3. Don't be intimidated, but I'm not a stereotypical guy. If anything, I'll be the one in the kitchen =D.
>>148440973
>>148439504
>>148439396
>Hellbreath
and its trash again. why they even try to buff that

Hello anons, I want to into Monk for that mike tyson 1-2-1 combo,

anythings I have to know? i dont plan on going dps or anything, I just want to know whats my role, how much damage I could make ocmpare to swordies, and what people expect of me

>>148445192
>>148444984
It's just some anon copy pasting shit from the forums >>148442093

>>148444660
Fuck no, QS is dull as shit. All I'm saying is that if they made QS a taunt/tank then everyone is going to have a terrible time in dungeons. It's bad enough watching one take aggro due to no swords in the damn mission, especially on the tree and mole, much less if they're able to purposely do it.

>>148444707
Good exp or no, dungeons drop a lot of major shit and not all of them can be rushed.

>That is not even what Pelt is supposed to be. That could be Rode.
Problem being Rode is a c4 class, so unless you mean moving them up.

>Pelt is about taunting and drawing enemy attention and striking and retreating. Having them as tanks is the mistake.
Taunting falls right in line with tanking, especially a large scale taunt.

>On second thought, holding aggro beyond the cap should be the swordsman inherent attribute and not something from swashbuckle.
That would work, have it as an attribute for other classes they decide to give a taunt to too.
Sword is just a mess of a class right now though. At least for cleric dps builds, as long as you're Cleric2, you're perfectly fine.

>>148445410
>I just want to know whats my role
healer + buffer

So just acquired a token and sold 2 more mithrils so I can buy an Arde. Unfortunately I need to wait for 2 days. The grinding with token was better than expected. So what should I do /tosg/? Should I farm for more mithrils (only 1 left) or grind to lvl85 (currently 82) while waiting for market cash?
Also what is a good lvl 75 crossbow or bow for grinding?

>>148443354
>implying I don't have better shit to do that grind at 30% efficiency
Why do people assume other just sit on their ass all day waiting for a party?

>>148445556
Get to 90 and get arde yourself

The big takeaway from the patch is that applying iToS nerfs to kToS is a natural and required step in the branch merging process that they stated was going to happen. Hopefully the iToS changes hitting kToS means they're rather far along in the merge, and we'll be getting moved up to the latest branch before too long.

>>148445556
are you in varena? ill give you a free arde

>>148445791
I'm not him but please gib it to me please?

>>148445848
sea monkey go away

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>still can't play with my friend cause freeze glitch
>still isn't fixed

seriously its been like two weeks

So is kToS also going to get less dungeon entries + silver? It would seem arbitrary to keep them different after going through with all these nerfs.

>>148445848
team name? also level and how long youve been playing?

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Why you havn't rolled a druid2 yet?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4114bbb8.1a2a32435461.15253144.11233f415a6575.2331556195 [Y/N]

>>148445556
stop grinding. do quests. use cards.
get to 86 (xp reset) and you will be 100+ very fast.
do the 90 dung and do missions when ur 100+

why the fuck do some ppl stay so long in low ass lvls

>>148446013
No.

But jTOS will have the iTOS dungeon features but are willing to change them based on community feedback.

>>148446228
Druid 2 is op as hell I don't know why there aren't more especially since our version doesn't have pvp.

Curious what is the actual speed boost value on your character sheet when under panto haste?

>>148446013
I swear, the dungeon entry limitations in iToS are so fucking dumb
>Oh, you get three runs a day
>But this is applies to any dungeon you run
If they wanna limit it, make it one entry for free, two for token, but have that be the limit per dungeon, not overall.

>>148446234
>Bokor
Fuck no, zombies are terrible, hexing hardly works, and while effigy is alright damage, it drains sp like a fucking succubus drains cocks.

>>148446228
>total obtained:2

>>148446228
>What is better for Druid, Diev3 or Krivis3?

>>148446274
Because it's fun.

>>148443354
>implying I'm not soloing grinding for better exp when I'm waiting for a full party.

seriously, inviting your sht class will only lower my exp rate, compared to when I'm soloing.

>>148446460
Same speed of maxed Chrono haste
>>148446580
I-i don't mafia at all and when i do world bossing especially Cerberus i never get so lucky
Most of the time i don't even seen it and i just got Transform skill anyways

>>148444410
Which is why you invest in con, regardless of class. You need huge dex investments in order to reliably dodge, and Finestra/deeds makes investing in it less appealing

>>148447338
>I-i
???

>>148446228
Euphie nice as always I see.

Can someone post that image that shows a graphic with the lvl exp reset and class advancement

>Pistol shot was buffed in damage and has 2 overheat now
Is Corsair3 not a meme anymore?

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>>148446228
Bokor3(druid2)/Pardo3/Rod3/Thauma3/whatever
Stack all the strike debuffs.
Pardo keep them up forever
Bokor spam effigy which gets buffed by all the strike debuffs, cure and carnivory.

No need to thank me.

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>117+116+102+103+11+11
i dont know if i want that fucking thing anymore

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Dvine pls respond ingame if you're awake

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>>148448040
You will never find it!

>>148448040
i want to find (you), in my next cube!

>>148446460
>t know why there aren't more especially since our version doesn't have pvp.
ssshhhhh
Plague Doctor took the spotlight but Druid2 is as good as PD for PvP but it's better for PvE
Keep it a secret to all the wannabe PDs, let them roll that meme class.

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>>148448367
uhh

>>148448132
MAYBE GODDAMMIT

>>148448021
>effigy which gets buffed by all the strike debuffs
What?
Effigy is Magic - Dark.

>>148445198
>>148443151
Forcing Koenig back into the /tosg/ chat when?

>>148448040
Just buy it.
I bought my peta recipe, well traded for it, and I'll never ever set foot in that cursed 130 dungeon anymore.

Invite Kimlasca to the /tosg/ chat plox

>>148448828
Dont invite this retard spy

>>148448676
Try it if you have a bokor and a rod3/wizard friend.
Effigy gains damage from those.

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>>148446228
>Fedimian so dead you can have the time to find a spawned Cerberus on 5f without a full party, no chrono, no fletcher or elememe AND STILL GET THE CUBE
>Total obtained:2
LMAO

>>148448789
well yea, maybe next week.

>>148447672
Is this Euphie fedimian Kirito?

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>>148447732
Anyone?

>>148449467
Post tats first.

>>148449467
You had 20 minutes to find it. Go and stay go

>>148449467
Try typing "exp chart tree of savior" in google and click images.

>>148448984
>retard
Yeah, okay. Maybe.
>spy
u wot

>>148449467
>>148447732
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/filename/class%20and%20franks.jpg/

>>148449467
Have you tried the op or Discord?

>>148449618
But I need the one that says /tosg/ which it doesn't appear on google

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Remember to lock and double check your items before selling!

>>148449757
Yes!
Thank you kind anon!

>>148449850
>Blue gem in gloves
You deserved it retard

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>The only paladin pardoner quit the dead game
>No one can do ET without barrier scrolls anymore

JUST

>>148449415
He's the sever world bosses' mafia guild leader, which he named No Remorse.

>>148450228
He is also russian.

>>148449035
Really?
Is it a significant boost or just a lame one?

>>148449850
>muh buyback
kek

>>148449850
You still can buyback items if you are good with Lua.

>>148450407
No surprise about that.

>>148449945
There's literally nothing else that's better.

>>148451038
>what is critical damage

does anyone here play tree of savior?

>>148451513

no

>>148451513
What is that?

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Why doesn't IMC ever nerf elementalist?

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The doomposters are always right eventually.

>>148451846
but they already did

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>Futureucks confirmed for doomposters too
why do we still let these faggots post?

>tfw my secret material item used to rmt has its max price changed and now can only be posted under the 400 silver.

>>148451846
Pet class.

>>148451871
Play the game.

>>148451996
Play the game.

>>148451846
DKP

please I need a fix of bees

>>148451996
You mean dvine and Lolipan?

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event

Seeing kTOS towns crowded again is a nice feeling.

I guess our Klaip and Orsha servers will be merged soon as well.

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>>148451038
Reroll

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Kim Hakkyu here. We noticed that bots would gain silver when they left down, so we have placed a restriction. You can now only enter or leave town two times a day, three if you buy a token.

Where should I grind at 178? All my quests are for lvl 184.

I have enough cards to go to 185, but I don't think that I should use them, r-right?

>>148452572
186 is exp reset, aim at least for that.
190 would be better because you can do the dungeon which is decent exp.

So yes, use them and do the higher level quests.

>>148452260
>in ktos
well they have like 2 events per month

>>148443913
>IMC is now fixing shit
the fuck has been fixed? party questing is still broken ffs and I bet you in less than a day character select is going to break again

>>148452554
That won't solve anything because bots can just discard items they pick up so they don't get over-encumbered. They make most of their silver from monsters not from selling trash to NPC. They also don't even need buffs to kill things, it will just take longer.

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>>148452778
>That won't solve anything
That's

That's the joke

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>>148452778
Damn that one flew right over your head.

>>148452778
Are you an anime character?

>>148451846
>nerf elementalist
>wizard class get renamed to support bitch instead

>>148445973
You know there's a workaround for that, right? One of you just has to stay a screen or so away from the scene trigger.

>>148452870
No, that's iToS

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>>148453091

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>>148453024
What about..
Wait, prepare yourself, this is going to be a big one.

Buff
other
classes?

BOOOM CRAZY, RIGHT?

>>148453091
that's the joke's name

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>>148433306
What would be the build in TOS if the Goblin Slayer from the based manga is in this game?

>>148449283
Klaipedo so dead their world boss mafia guild kicked one of their core members and don't even do world bosses any more. At the same time the market is flooded in cheap WB loot that wouldn't sell for shit.

>>148453389
>one of their core members
t.

>>148453389
Meanwhile people still don't rush 217 for ez money

>sell animus recipe on megaphones

people BEG me to take their windrunners and a bunch of talt/other goodies

>>148453535
That's because 217 is a waste of time unless you know how to solo rush with Kino

>>148453317
Wiz3Ele3Warlock

>>148453631
You still need to kill a gorillion of mobs to trigger the doors.

I plan going Highlander3>Doppel2

Which skills should I take?
I know the cookiecutter suggests this: https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11322299.23334551.11213541.2351657a8191.1a315a617181

But none of the Highlander skills are selected, which ones are worth putting points?
I never played with a Highlander, and I rarely see them around, I have no idea what to take.

>>148453535
>0.5% drop
>ez money
Yeah right.

>>148453976
It's 1% dude, just like all orange rares from dungeon bosses

>>148453915
Consider getting barb instead of highlander/pelt

>>148454056
Which is exactly the same as running the lv 200 dungeon.
Except the number of actual 1% valuable recipes is higher

>>148454056
Doesn't change the fact that it's still a shitty drop rate thus not ez money.

>>148454139
Yeah but 200 stuff doesn't sell for 10 mil

Why do you faggots want Frost Cloud users or Magic Arrow users nerfed? If they did that, good luck ever getting past a grind wall or killing a world boss.

>>148454315
That's a fallacy.

>>148454315
Play the game