/dsg/ - Souls General

First for DaS2 babbys need to leave, we don't speak of that shit anymore.

>>148092264
Dark Souls 2 is referenced quite often, did you mean Demon's Souls?

>>148092321
Floaty souls is to be forgotten

Why is it that I can't parry the 3rd attack from an R1 spammer. I literally spam the parry buttom, and that shit doesn't work. How do I git gud at this?

Has anyone figured why the sun was all shitty at the end?
Is it because "the fire fades, and in the end there will only be dark"
The sun was a mistake.

>>148092401
did you mean Demon's Souls?

>>148092483
The sun in souls lore is just one of the various manifestations of the flame. Without the flame, there's no sunlight.

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>>148091567
Their hyperarmor is fine. It starts outside of negative thrust defense frames, so you can trade with bullshit like this.

>>148092596
poor stamina management
git better

>>148092673
Yeah, it was a gamble and I fucked up. Luckily he punished it badly.

>>148092401
Demon's Souls is already all but forgotten.

Were people memeing me when they said Abyss Watchers was one of the hardest bosses?

>>148092913
Yes

>>148092913
Yes

>>148092913
They are the first boss that you can literally kill by mashing R1 with no care in the world and the game doesn't even have poise.

The twinked to shit NPC phantom invaders in DaS2 are fucking horrible.

>>148093083
they're fun

Confirming whether what that other anon said is legit. So Poise actually affects when the HA starts when you use a weapon that has that feature?

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Post Fashion, fellow Ashen Ones.

>>148093226
No.

>>148092064

In Dark Souls 1, where is a good place to help with Co-op for bosses apart from Ornstein and Smough?

I want to enjoy jolly co-operation with my Princess Guard character.

>>148071461
>Weapon/armor upgrades and Blacksmiths
DaS2. Everything can be infused and doesn't simplify the upgrade system like DaS3 did.
>Health
Dark Souls 2 and Bloodborne did it best. They both have powerful, albeit limited sources of healing apart from the main healing mechanic in-game.
>Stats
DaS3, Every stat is useful in some way or another and almost all playstyles are useful.
>Game hub
Dark Souls, absolutely hands down bar none. Hubs are boring, and the ability to teleport to the hub in 2, bb, and 3 from the very start is an extremely poor design choice.
>PvP
DaS3. It's the most fluid combat system to date and has the least amount of issues with it, structurally. It's also the easiest to play.
>Co-op
DaS3 password summon +
Ganks -
DaS2 co-op gameplay+
Soul memeory -
>Equipment gating
DaS. Pretty much everything you could want for a build can be achieved pre-vessal.
>Checkpointing
Dark Souls. The ability to feel a very fragile veil of safety at each bonfire is wonderful in addition to the abilities to store, upgrade, and repair equipment, as well as level up, is the biggest thing I miss about DaS1. Loading screens are fucking stupid.
>Boss weapons
I hate the boss weapons system of exchanging a soul into an item. In my opinion, a boss weapon should be earned through a challenge, such as killing Smough first, then Ornstein for the Leo Ring, or chopping off Seath's tail for the Major League Gaming sword, or killing a boss without taking damage, not just giving it to someone because they killed the boss whoopty-doo.
>Melee combat
DaS2 has the best ideas, but plays awfully..
DaS3 has the best implementations, but lacks of good ideas.
>Magic
DaS3 hands down. It might not be as powerful as it used to be, but regenerating mana is comfy.
>NG+
I wish the difficulty increases were optional.

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>>148093083
>i hate challenging enemies in a series known for challenge

Why are you even here

Actually this goes for mostly everything people complain about, they just bitch because they died maybe once or twice to a boss

Why are souls fans such pussies

If there are two lore questions I want answered..

>1. How do Ages of Dark end? What happens when someone links the fire and starts another age?

>2. HOW THE FUCK IS CATARINA STILL UNSCATHED WTF

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All these years later and this ending is still 2deep4me

>>148093931
Manus just raped 'er, that's it

>>148093931
What's there to get?
You set out to save Dusk on Elizabeth's request.
Manus had kidnapped Dusk because generic villain contrivances
You beat Manus and rescue Dusk.
She's still in complete shock after the whole debacle and can't even muster up a word to say

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>>148093910
From removed the ability for players to twink themselves out and then made an NPC phantom that pops up in the starting area and throws soul spears around like they were going out of style.

And then in DaS3 they made some deaths mandatory to unlock bits of story and gear. You need to let NPCs kill you or you miss out on shit.

I'm entirely convinced From has someone working for them that needs to be cuffed upside the fucking head.

>>148093083
I still have fun seeing dennis assblast faggots.

>>148093931
>+3 estus
>lightning greatsword against Manus, Father of Elemental Defense
How many tries did that take

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>>148093276
Not my usual, but I like this one. Would probably work alright for some Carthus theme gimmick.

>>148093083
Fencer Sharron is the ender of no death runs.

>>148094258
>You need to let NPCs kill you or you miss out on shit.

What NPC is that? I can't think of any where you have to die to get shit from them.

>>148094258
>And then in DaS3 they made some deaths mandatory to unlock bits of story and gear. You need to let NPCs kill you or you miss out on shit.
When does that happen outside the Darksign thing? How hard is to jump of a cliff in Firelink?

>>148094589
He's referring to Tsorig. In 1.0 Tsorig only gave you the "My Thanks!" gesture if he killed you. They did patch that though.

>>148094747
Thankfully they patched Alva as well. You now get his set in the end of the fungeon if you kill him. Can't think of anybody else that was kinda funked up in that regard though.

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>>148093748

Anyone?
Is Ornstein and Smough the only good one?

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>"Hey, Twinblades in DS2 were fun! Lets try that again"
>Fire up SOTFS
>Find the Twnblade
>These weird looking animations, specially in the 1 handed moveset
>2HR1 is parry bait: the move
>The others aren't exactly better
>2HR2 is the only worthwhile move because of the tracking
Man, I hope that if they add them in the DLC, they make them as fun as Twinblade mode Rakuyo.

>>148094896
I'd say maybe Nito, or Seathe if you're feeling risky. Showing new guys the invisible path was a fun that I'll never experience again.

>>148094921
I can't think of a single time an entire new melee weaponclass was introduced with the dlc

At best we might get a single weapon with some sort of callback to twinblades as a unique move but that's it.

>catacombs
>oh this place is really nice, Im likin it
>get sucked into a dark cup thingy
>in the abyss or some shit
>weird
>oh cool an item
>go to pick it up
AAHHHHHHHHHHHHH JESUS CHRIST

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>>148094279
I just deleted my character and had a mild existential crisis from Dennis. Let the rage take hold. I officially quit Dark Souls 2. I can't deal with this shit anymore.

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>>148095059
I don't care, I just want to be Tekkaman.
If the BB DLC added so much to that game, I don't see why it shouldn't be possible.

>>148095306
Forest of Fallen Giants or Iron Keep?

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>>148095116
>He starts climbing up nonstop at the start of the fight
I HATE THAT EPISODE

>>148094408
about 5 attempts, even with summoned Sif with the moonlight greatsword before I gave up
Then i did some reaserch and it turns out he's resiistant to magic and fire but vulnerable to lightning
So began a great side quest, of upgrading a crest shield to +5, then choosing a greatsword, a bastard sword since it was the same weight as the claymore and MLGS, and then upgrading it to Lightning +10, during which i was hacked and turned into a dragon and forcing me to restore a save backup.

Then it beat him on my next attempt, i didnt bother to even turn human for it.

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>>148095385
Forest Of Fallen Giants. Have been trying to do a "no stupid deaths until at least mid-game" thing with DaS2. Deleted dozens of characters so far. I've just kept feeding the autistic need for some unattainable level of perfection.

Have literally gone fucking insane. Repetition without point in search of an impossible result.

>>148094896
Pretty much any pre-lord vessel area has a fair amount of activity. Queelag and blight town in general tends to get a huge amount of summons.

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>>148094258
What is it about this general that bitches about every aspect of DS2 that wasn't shitty?
The only area where invaders were cancer was the Black Gulch, and that entire place can be written off as game design diarrhea.

None of the NPCs were stronger than an actual invader. Why the fuck are you playing Dark Souls if you're so terrified of invasions that NPCs bother you? Is it because you can't summon three friendly phantoms and sipping is punished?

Maldron was a fucking hero. No DS3 phantom has as much personality, they're just gormless retards that rush you and die. Hodrick was the most difficult by virtue of spanking anything he can parry. None of them tried to be clever.

The only person who needs to be cuffed is the one who castrated a signature mechanic of the series. Fuck.

>>148095306
what is hard about Dennis?

both DaS3 Creighton and Hodrick are much more bullshit than most in DaS2

one exception is the red right before the chariot fogwall, fuck that asshole

oh boy i wonder who's playing ds1 nowadays
>giantdad with a claymore
>backstab fishing mom, attacks on sight
>backstab fishing mom, attacks on sight
>backstab fishing mom, attacks on sight
>backstab fishing mom, attacks on sight
wow what a fun and engaging meta

>>148095903
the /v/ hivemind and their e-celebs have deemed that DS2 is trashed and frown upon any positive discussion about it

>get summoned for Darkmoon
>oh cool host lets us duke it out 1v1
>nope he's actually going to the bonfire to summon more phantoms

Sometimes, I feel bad for invaders.

>>148095912
>what is hard about Dennis?
Forest Of Fallen Giants.

Soul Spears.

Unless you have 20 VIG, he will one hit kill any character leveled to that area.

>>148093809
>DS2
>limited healing sources
What

>>148096154
You only have 99 lifegems on you at a time, it's super limited!

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>>148093276
Sure.

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>>148093809
>DaS3. It's the most fluid combat system to date and has the least amount of issues with it,

>>148096112
he wasn't that bad

>>148096154
Maybe it's limited in another way, in that lifegems take time to restore health

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>NG+
>lose a chunk of souls invading and head back to find them
>get autosummoned by aldrich faithful
>kill the dude + a phantom, get 500k souls

is this like glitched or hacked or some shit should i be worried

>>148096353
So does Estus in that game. Faster than lifegems, but compared to DS1, BB, or DS3 it feels like 3 years

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>>148093276
I finally got all the achievements with +2 gold snek ring.

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>>148096112
Look up some no death/no bonfire runs for dem rings m8.

Also I'm not sure why you're there, what is there besides a giant memory you can't access until late? There's like 8 fucking turtle knights there too.

Is Salty Sanctuary any good? I was going to wait for the Vita port but that might take literally forever

I'm just burnt out on Souls right now

Hell are there any other games that scratch a souls itch besides it and Dark Maus? (Less interested in Dark Maus)

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>>148093276
Sup.

>>148096375
Nothing to worry about, this ain't DS2

the latest installment of Let's All Wear the Same Epic Meme Armor and Gank Invaders by Stunlocking Them in a Corner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3LXhEoC10k

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>>148095912
>Get invaded by Daughter of Crystal Kriemild
>Doesn't stop spamming Crystal Hail
>Except her version actually does damage and tracks nicely into you
>Pops up CSS without warning and often because she only has like 2-3 spells
>Always has her staff supercharged because lolinfiniteFP
>Attacking her while she's not casting almost always parries you, except this version of her ACTUALLY PULLS OUT THE RAPIER
I'd hate to see some of these NPCs with cuntier AI.

>>148096645
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqXF1lADrX4

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>level 150 can invade down to 100 using Watchdogs or Aldrich

time for fun

>>148096757
Reverse, actually. level 100 Watchdogs or Aldies can invade up to 150.

Watchdogs and Aldies cannot invade downwards.

Dark Souls 2

Fume or Dragon UGS? Is Dragon Aerie best place to farm petrified dragon bones? My ascetic is on +4 by now so it's going to get harder. My bone. farming.

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>>148096818
Yeah, burning ascetics in the Dragon Aerie bonfire is free because it spawns another Ascetic in the area you can pick up every time. As for the drakes, just kill them with poison arrows

>>148096807
That's not what the wiki states.

>>148096353
You can easily stack them for regen faster than most miracles.

>>148096545
I like that shield.
Try sellsword or north chest.

>>148096968
Scratch that I'm retarded. Oh well, I guess I'll gank there instead :^)

>>148096818
Fume is the best strength weapon in the game
Curved Dragon GS is a quality weapon. It's strong but the stamina efficiency is kinda poor and the moveset has kinda poor reach.

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>>148096285
Her superior version with the ornstein set.

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>>148093276

>>148096818

Both are pretty fun. I'd say FUGS is the more viable weapon for both PvE and PvP, the block attacks are good for blocking and for manual aiming. The 2hr1s are the not-so-great vertical ones, but still okay, whereas the Drakewing has horizontal ones.

That projectile attack with DWUGS is pretty great though. And obviously it gives you better damage with dex weapons, might give you a better offhand weapon and whatnot.

I guess I don't have an answer for you, but maybe the thoughts will help.

>>148097148
fuck okay cuz I used all my bones on the curved dragon. I'll keep farming ig. Good souls and slabs too.

>>148095805
you can summon an npc to help you, right at the beginning of the place where the skeletons spawn, down the stairs. clear out the turtles first, grab the summon then go through the ruins to the other side of the area to trigger the invasion.
if you must solo him, you can try to knock him off the cliff. he does a lot of damage and has a stupidly large amount of hp but it is fairly easy to get away from him to heal up.

>>148096576
>Look up some no death/no bonfire runs for dem rings m8.
Looked one up. Did not realize you could bait Dragonrider into throwing himself off the ledge.

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>>148035789
Sliders soon, I've been busy and I just decided to not to go all the way with Sirris' quest. I don't need her talisman. I'd do it right now but I gotta be up early.
I'll try to get them posted tomorrow morning burger time.

Sorry to keep you all waiting.

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>>148097572
NPC despawns after the other enemies are dealt with, seems like. No help for Dennis.

Sl120 havel cosplay, what VIG/ END should I have?

>>148097794
40/40

>>148097825
I don't have that much. It's already some 57 VIT and 60 STR

>>148097726
ah thats too bad. you can always leave that area for later and come back when you are a higher level. theres nothing important there for early on right?

>>148098023
sorry I was still thinking Dark Souls™

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Man, I actually miss having to use the Transient Curse just to be able to fight the ghosts of New Londo. To think From had the gall to put a place as lethal as this so close to the very stat of the game. Having to use an item like that just feels so, i don't know, Dungeons and Dragons, like you're going into a place you weren't meant to be.
I sincerely wish there could be a another game that had the balls to do an area like this.

>>148093916
Age of Fire restarts, there are tiny embers of the First Flame / Potential Lords of Cinder that can return the First Flame to full power

Catarina is a fucking joyous, booze-filled land of celebrations. Every Catarina description basically says they partied through all their Undead outbreaks and apocalypse scenarios. If Siegwald can invent booze for Undead, then it others probably have found other ways to keep themselves from going hollow.

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>>148094534
literally about to see her in 5 mins. I just hit her with urns.

Would not be bad if you could parry for shit in this sequel.

>>148098171
> there will never be another fun Moonlight Greatsword

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I just finished Dark Souls III and boy

thats it? Sure I didn't finish all the sidequests and shit but seriously when you reached the Gwyn in Dark Souls 1 it meant fucking buiseness, especially to GET to his fog wall with all the knights surrounding the area.

Dark Souls III's ending boss fight felt so sudden and lackluster, but it was atleast tougher than Gwyn's

Anybody else feels the same way?

>>148098502
I feel like there should have been another boss in the scrunched up cityscape that surrounds the Kiln

>>148098502
I see what you mean.

But I liked the feeling of the Kiln in 3.

The scenery made it feel like the world was on its death bed.

>>148098502
my problem is that shadow of chernobyl has no character or history or importance
it's just some dude that was the combination of the others and that's it, with a second phase that was just "hey guys remember gwyn"

>>148097794
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/54876
Allocate the rest in either END or STR, I don't know.

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>>148098672
EXACTLY!
But I kinda liked how he used all kinds of different attacks, from magic to faith spells and the likes

But I just fucked him over with pic related in a matter of seconds every openings he had

Felt just like back in Dark Souls 1

>>148098502
Nah, the game felt a bit short but the final act was well done.

>>148098809
His transformations makes me wish we had trick weapons back even if that'd make no sense

>>148098672
Since this is supposedly the last game and we'll get more shit like Bloodybone I think it was fine that they basically threw the kitchen sink at us for the last boss

>>148098809
You just achieved proficiency.

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>>148098502
>can't be parried
>will parry you from a stun
>uses up to 5 weapons plus offensive miracles, magic, and pyromancy
>thinking "grab my belt and parry my shit up" is even half as good

SoC is a much more fun fight than Gwynn

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>>148099165
Lore and story mean a lot to me, and Gwyn had that in spades that SoC didn't, which is what makes me prefer Gwyn. From a pure mechanical standpoint you're right.

My favorite actual fight is Gehrman anyway.

>>148099221
>gold sword
>silver armor
aaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>148099340
>sword

more like a cage you swing around. it's actually a mace

>>148099312
Fair enough

>>148099221
Such a cool looking sword. I'm glad it's viable now.

>>148099340
the armor has gold on it too you know

>>148099432
Does it actually deal strike damage? I never checked

>every run i try to do that isnt some kind of quality ss/ugs build is either more difficult or time consuming

Only thing that comes close is a bleed build with warden memeblades. Everything else just feels underpowered

Why do Mound-makers have differing objectives? Wouldn't it make more sense for it to always be "kill one phantom or host" so that they're always traitorous madmen, rushing for whoever's weak?

>>148099498
Is it really though? It still seems a bit low on the totem in the GS class

>>148099574
anything's viable if you're good enough
Except in pvp since lol what's poise

>tfw no good soul farming areas in das2

this sucks butts man.

>>148099541
>the playstyles i use least are the ones im worst with

wow what a surprise. i get my asshole DESTROYED if I ever try to melee anything

>>148099498
Viable in pve, sure. Pvp? Soz m8y

>>148099574
It's pretty much a quality weapon with FAI/STR scaiing. A solid option to clerics.

>>148098216
>Catarina is a fucking joyous, booze-filled land of celebrations.
It pains me to know that we will never visit
Catarina because a happy land like that wouldn't be fitting the setting.

>>148099541
>bleed build with warden memeblades

I love these things. Qualityhollowbleed may be a cancer build, but all these rapid attacks make for the first dexfag build I've ever enjoyed.

>>148099637
Nah, magic is just a pain in the ass. You more or less accomplish the same thing except its more efficient to use melee weapons and you dont need to chig blue estus.

You're also not a glass cannon. Pretty much every pvp fight i have pre 80 is against some kind of magic/hybrid user with around 7-800 total hp that get 2 shotted by a zwei, not to mention i have upwards of 1200 hp. Its pretty silly senpai

>>148099632
True but at the same time if I'm using something with hyper armor I want to know I'll atleast come out even on trades you know?

I don't even know if I'd actually have the stats for it in my faith build. 24str/16dex so I can use LKGS and DSA but I really wouldn't mind bringing a gs into the mix. Only thing is it has to be raw and you can't infuse wolnirs

>>148099801
THAT'S IT BOYS

WE'RE GOING TO CATARINA

MEMEAZAKI SAID THE DLC AREA IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT FROM THE TONE OF DAS3

>>148099862
holy fuck when will you people just start calling it quallowity

>>148099541
I'm glad I'm able to use most weapons to good effect. Except scythes, those need a serious buff.

>>148099801

Probably better we don't, because if we ever do it's going to be a Catarina where everyone's dead at their tables and the mugs are all dry.

>>148099574
AR-wise, it's one of the best.
Moveset-wise it's no worse than like 3/4 of the weaponclass
The only real downside to it is the lack of a usable WA. If the WA had hyperarmor or came out fast enough to actually use, it'd be great.

I'd put it just below claymore and Hollowslayer (the undisputed king of the weaponclass) but above Wolf GS.

What are your individual opinions on FuckMyParents420?

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After a night at Poontiff's, I feel like people should be whining more about glaives than they are.

>>148099983
I think he named himself that just to get you to post about it.

>>148099982
Are there any legit bad greatswords? I've used all of them to good effect, I haven't tried twincest or GSoJ, tho.

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>>148099969
>where everyone's dead at their tables and the mugs are all dry.
Either Jesus' Dark Souls equivalent beat us there or we just happened upon a suicide cult.

>>148100127
Executioner's and Bastard Sword are pretty trash.
They don't even break 500 AR, have no reach and their WAs are useless

Dark Souls 1
>level design is orchestrated around the singular player's path through it and fair to the observant for the most part

Dark Souls 2
>ONE MIRRION TROOPS

Seriously, what happened between 1 and 2? I don't get it.

>>148100210
the talented people were working on BB

>>148100210
Vendrick, that's his genius plan for dealing with the giants.

>>148100210
They decided to make a good action adventure game and a shitty dark souls game

>>148100210
>ONE MIRRION TROOPS

and the game teaches you how to deal with crowds early on

>>148100260
BB and DS3 did crowd encounters right, though.

>>148100210
get out of foftg

also
>>148100000

>>148100353
where? i didnt get the memo becuase i still get swarmed

>>148100412
>DS3 did crowd encounters right, though.
haha no

>>148100412
yeah, that's what I meant. While DS2 was in development, the talented people were busy working on BB.

>>148100515
Parrying an enemy stuns them for a bit so it helps with crowd control.

>>148100807
Not him, but I thought crowd control tactics involve choke points and using the terrain to block their numbers

>>148100515
in vanilla, there's the trap in bastille. if you charge in the door youll get ambushed. otherwise, you lure them out on the bridge to choke them and deal with them that way. and the sentinels teach you how to deal with multiple enemies as well.

in Scholar there's the trap in the forest. bunch of sleeping hollows. if you just bumrush through, they wake up and rape you. if you are careful, you either sneak past them or eliminate them 1 at a time as they wake up

>>148100863
Yeah exactly.

But there are some bullshit encounters where that isn't an option.

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>>148100741
Oh yeah, I forgot
DS3 IS A BAAAAAAAAAAADDDDD GAAAAMMEMEEE

>>148100807
>just parry bro ecks DEE

i thought this shit meme died by the time ptde was released

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>>148093276
Shilling once more Also fuck black knight glaives and their wombo combo OHKO

>>148100879
What about in Brume? You'll get swarmed with a room full of them everytime you run to Sir Alonne. Or in Iron Keep. Or in Horsefuck Valley.

>>148100965
Are you going to provide an actual argument or are you just going to type what I said in an exaggerated manner and call it a meme?

>>148100971
>that straight outta Farron fashion
pffffft

>>148100879
Wait, you can sneak past sleeping hollows?

>>148101078
people like you act like you land 100% of your parries 110% of the time and its quite frankly disgusting desu.

parrying is nothing but luck

>>148101212

lmao? just how shit are you kid

>>148101212
>Parrying is nothing but luck

Parrying is nothing but timing actually.

Try practicing on hollows so that you can get a good feel for it without being punished too much for fucking up.

>>148101292
>he doesn't spam l2
>what a shitter

parrying is the biggest crutch in video game history

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>>148101398

>im literally incapable of doing it but its a crutch

lmao?

>>148101367
>nothing but timing

in pvp, its determined by lag and your opponent's predictability

in pve it's determined by the parry tool you're using and whether or not you'll get the parryable attack

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>>148101093
There wasn't another legging that didn't give me chicken legs or the right look. I wanted some kneecaps to match the pauldron and light enough to wear. I might try Farram leggings since they were great fit in DS2

>>148101513
Holy fuck I miss the Crypt Clunker.

Had a question. So it was determined awhile ago that Lothric Castle assets are loaded in the regular, daylight starting area. Has anybody done any youtube videoes or webm's showing what's behind the illusory wall in the Cemetery of Ash?

>>148101510
I get what you mean about pvp.

The game outright tells you about how well smaller shields can parry and it's not hard to tell what enemies are non parryable

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>>148101460
Stupid dog
>>148101578
As do I. I wish they brought back Agdayne's set too, it was baller as fuck

>>148101667
i'm talking about getting specific attacks

i.e. halberd swing instead of shoulder charge @ champ.

>>148101785
I see what you mean.

>>148101785
How exactly DO you parry spears or whatever? I just figured out parrying Black Knights and can consistently do Greataxe Knights and sword knights but the rest are still tricky.

>>148102061
your active parry frames connect with their active attack frames = parry

>>148100971
>see BKG
>know spin to win is coming
>stomp and golf swing
>win the trade heavily

Been using profaned or LKGS against Halberds lately and it's proven effective so far

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>>148101648
bump

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>>148093276
Waifus beware. I have been training in waifu-slaying for a millennia.

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>>148102271

>>148102210
>Been using profaned or LKGS against Halberds lately and it's proven effective so far
Really? I tried using my LKGS for the WA but their recovery is fucking ridiculous. I almost always get hit in the stomp and they roll away from the golf swing.

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>>148101398
>P-parry a c-crutch guys!
>high risk high reward
>incredibly punishable in both pve and pvp
>even more so in + cycles where enemies actually do significant damage or when fighting a good player


Apparently stun locking the majority of npcs by spamming r1s for easy kills is super skillful folks

>>148102729
The skill floor in learning how to parry is extremely high, but the ceiling is very low.

After a while, you learn when to parry and when not to.

>these mages in shrine of amana stay on the ground if you pancake them

"o-okay b-bearer of the curse. y-you win"

>equip leo ring on spear
>constant counterhits
>equip leo ring on warpick
>constantly trade into everything
>never get counterbonus, no matter the timing of the trade.
This is weird.

>>148101212
I wish parrying was more about luck and predicting honestly. Unlike ds1 and ds2 reaction parries with fist in ds3 are absolutely disgusting. People who spam that shit are so annoying.
Your choices are either playing like a cautious fuck or pulling put a whip and spamming the weapon art or delayed r2. I guess twinswords/curved sword wa works too.

>>148102465
Yeh. Raw LKGS+Lightning blade nets me 700 AR

I just dodge and set up HA trades that I win heavily on r1s and stomp as soon as I see the WA initiate.

I'd be lying if I said I land the golf swing every time. Hitting an r2 counter poke is a good way to deal with it as well if you space it right to minimize the trade damage you receive

>>148103221
Ornstein is a biased fuck

>get hit by a Asstora UGS rolling r1
>800 damage

AHHHHHHHHHHH

>>148103405
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Pb--6cDbpY

>>148103151
I'm dead I swear.

>>148102850
I get that, and pvp it's pretty easy to get parry timings down to reflex and prediction, but it really is legitimately easier to hit r1 through the whole game sadly

Coming off of an ng+3 run where a partial on silly man or gundyr meant most of my health or all of it depending on the attack so I'd say it's anything but a crutch especially when the damage dealt wasn't worth actually commiting to the parry

I'll probably avoid parried completely if I decide to go higher

>>148103237
>spin slash true combo into r1
>700-800 damage

Punishing parry spammers is criminally effective with any WA that can't be parried

I kind of want to make a build specifically around using the FUGS.
How would I even build for it?
I assume I'd have to aim for 66 str to make it worthwhile, and I'd probably need 40 END because its stamina costs are insanely high.

How much vit would I end up needing?

Is this going to be some kind of horribly overspecialized 125 build?

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https://www.vg247.com/2016/07/09/demons-souls-director-says-sony-could-still-produce-a-remastered-edition/

>>148104040
Stop fucking asking for remakes

Why can't we just make better games instead of clinging onto a nostalgia-filled past? Demon's souls is fucking garbage by today's standards

>>148104149
because I don't have a PS3 but I have a PS4

>>148104027

Maybe less than you think because you can just use lighter armor, but for all the stuff you want, yeah, you'll end up pretty high level.

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3 months later and people are still falling for this.

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>>148104027
If you run into some bloodring rollfag just bust out the duel-wield caestus and fuck them up with 600 damage l1-l1 combo

The poise is necessary for HA to kick in for the full swing.

one handing is pointless.

>>148104591
can u pls explain how poise affects HA, i dont quite get it

>>148104573
Pls go for a backstab red

>>148104680
Nobody knows and it's difficult to test, so people just blithely make shit up and spout it for attention.

>>148104573
Is Black Knight Sword's WA worth it?

For all of the faults of DS2 being unfinished and scrapped together and ds3 being a soulless rushed cash-in with no poise, at least they dont have Bed Of Chaos.
Every Time I have the misfortune of dealing with this """boss""", Im reminded of why a lot of my characters end after O&S

>>148104808
Anon if you're on PC, let me respec and then come duel me at high wall of lothric.

I will show you the power of poise.

>>148104834
It's not bad but you'll only beat shitters with it. For pontiffs arena it's totally worth it. Perseverance is legit broken vs ultra weapons, though. You'll force them to switch because they literally can't do anything against it.

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What level should I be for invading Settlement?

>summoned for a duel
>it's a player using [literally any weapon]
>they gesture and then we have a friendly fight
>it's a player using CCS
>they run in tight circles spamming L1, then run at me spamming L1 like a hyperactive teenager
>they spend the whole fight sprinting around mashing L1 like their finger itches
Every time. What is it about that weapon that seems to attract jittery autists?

>>148105147
20 +2/3

>>148105170
The -wins-, they crave that victory

>>148105147

my SL28 +3 gets nonstop action there

>>148105234
I just don't understand it
Every single person not using a CCS has gestured tonight, but I've run into no less than a dozen different people who all approached me the same way. They walk at you tapping L1, and then when they see you gesturing, they run in tight circles continuing to tap L1, then turn and sprint up to you and try to backstab you out of your gesture, all while never stopping the L1L1L1L1

Every single one of them has been straight terrible, too. Like, too terrible even for their top-tier weapon to carry them.

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;_;..

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In all these hours I've played ds1, i've never thought about just attacking marvelous Chester and that I could get his equipment. It has no poise but its stylish as fuck~

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>MFW summoning three phantoms for a boss fight for the first time

Wow guys, this is super casual.

>>148105849
>what are multiple playthroughs
>what are multiple characters

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What's this little black status icon in DaS3? It kinda looks like a certain DaS2 hex.

>>148106176
Check your rings, see what status effects you have going on

Am I the only one who hates illusory walls? If you play a new Souls game blind you will easily miss %90 percent of the content. Your character will be super weak and you won't enjoy the game at all.

>>148106176
It's the effect of the carthus rings.

>>148106214
that's the point
It's supposed to get you to talk with other people about the game and have you realize there's a bunch of stuff you missed and go back to find

>>148106206
It's not me, it's some chucklefuck on YouTube.
>>148106217
Bloodring then? He's not leaving smokepuffs when he rolls. I thought it would just cause the same Calamity icon the other -absorb gear does.

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nothin personel.. kid..

>>148106214

I think most of the walls were pretty straightforward to find in this game, actually.

Well, at least if you played previous games.

>>148106427
I've killed so many people with that attack. It's crazy how often people fall for the backswing.

>>148106483
remember that time you had to press A to open illusory walls?
I love and will defend ds2 but that was pretty gay t b h

>>148106214
Do you know what the orange things on the ground are?

>>148104591
>full Havel's
No, retard. You only need 0.1 poise for ha to kick in and that's for some halberds and greatswords.

>>148106717
Come duel me anon, I'll show you how poise works.

>>148106759
>1v1 me bruh
maybe when you're past puberty

>>148106759

stop fucking posting you dumb redditor

>>148104591

holy shit you are stupid

>>148106819
>>148106828
>>148106915

I literally just want to demonstrate an UGS with the poise breakpoint, and without the poise breakpoint

Yeesh, you niggers are overly hostile sometimes.

>>148104027
something like this. instead of caestus, you can have some other fast weapon to finish people off/pop tears

Any FC?

>>148107550
hurrr durrr https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/54907

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how cancer is this for das1 pvp

>>148107703

Well, it's not DMB hornetclub havelmom.

Holy shit. The mercenary knights in Dark Souls 2 are a reference to Berserk too. Falconer knights. Band Of The Falcon.

>>148107703
>no mask of the mother
4/10 see me after class

>>148107959
no, they are just falconers. it's an actual thing, although they are used for hunting, not warfare

What are the chances of the dlc actually fixing the core problems of the game?
Estus punishing, weapon art nonsense, zero stamina rolls, no poise, etc.

>>148108182

nerfing rolls would force them to rebalance almost every boss in the base game

thats not happening

>>148107703
ishygddt

>>148108182
could you elaborate on "weapon art nonsense"?

>>148108157
>no, they are just falconers. it's an actual thing, although they are used for hunting, not warfare

"Armor worn by the Volgen Falconers.

Domestic Volgen soldiers are infamously timid,
so it is no wonder that this fierce band of
mercenary falconers was hired to compensate.

In practice they serve as bodyguards for the
affluent elite, and they serve well, such that
nobody dares scrutinize their backgrounds."

>>148108182

Very, very, very, very slim to nil. They've made their bed. Any changes to the current systems will be done through patching and they've clearly stated that poise "is situational" meaning hyperarmor and perseverance.

DLC will only add more content.

>>148108379
>band
no, it's a reference to the swedish power metal band, Falconer.
not much of a reference, closer to a wink. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falconry

>>148108182
rolling costs 15 stamina
weapon arts, with only a very few notable exceptions, are fine in both cost, viability, and balance
Poise is in the game, it just doesn't do what it used to do. Get used to it, because it isn't changing and it will never change and you are an absolute fool for wanting it back.

This is from yesterday, but
>>148022948
never seen it before
is that an unused asset?

>>148108751
it looks like someone took fallen knight armor and removed the wraps and shit

>>148108182
none, since they didn't fix any of das2's except poise

Is the dark sword still good or has it been nerfed to shit?

>>148107703
Kind of weak for sl 125.

That build would usually get wrecked by anyone with zweihander, or any mage spamming dark beads/pursuers. Also chaos blade is a waste of dex. Use any katana with chaos +5 upgrade (Uchigatana is good, washing pole has better range) and give yourself more poise. Shield would also be somewhat good.

>>148109013
>that whole post
you clearly don't know what you're talking about

>That build would usually get wrecked by anyone with zweihander,

?

the zweihander is a meme weapon, you cant actually hit anyone with it in duels and its free backstabs all day

do you even play the game

>>148108959

Still dark, still sword.

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Ow my fucking eyes! This is place is so gay! What were they thinking!?

>>148109345
best area tbqh

>>148109013
>dwgr
rolls past anything you mentioned. and dex increases cast speed. have you ever played ds1?

How fun are lv120 invasions? It's attractive because I could invade anywhere without worrying about level ranges for the location, but I doubt it'll be as fun as lower level invasions

>all that line of sight/aggro/shooting through walls fuckery in Lothric Castle that works nothing like the entire rest of the game does
Why?

>>148109345
There's a texture swap for the lava somewhere on nexusmods.

>>148105415
>>they run in tight circles spamming L1, then run at me
Same shit with every gotthard user in my experience

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>>148093276

How much did they nerf the magic-boosting candlestick? Still worth using?

>>148109457
The evangelists in Undead settlement like swinging through walls too, anon

>>148109457
>chained greataxe snek
>evangelists
>the saw-wielding grandson

So what's the best straight sword now that the Dork Sword got nerfed?

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need some idea's for a good female invader name, does anyone have any ideas?

>>148109457
>Endgame area in a Souls game is rushed bullshit
Wow! That's never happened before.

>>148109868

dark sword was never the best ss (in pvp)

gotthards is and always was the best

>>148109868
Same as before
Raw ASS for pre-120
Refined Lothric for 120

>>148109893
Nameless Usurper

>>148109854
All the crossbowmen in Lothric Castle shoot right through walls like they don't even exist.

>>148109893
Spinner Charlotte

>>148109893
Do you have a theme for the character? What kind of build are you going for? Any preferences to where you'll be invading? Give us something to work with.

>>148092064
What single Miracle should I keep with me for my paladin?

I'm currently using knight armour, but is there one with a more "paladin-y" look/vibe to it?

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>>148110210
thought about going for the pointiff curved sword along with a whip and some utility sorcery such as great magic weapon, spook and hidden body.

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>>148093276

>>148110535
is that fucking chakan the forever man

nah he had two katanas..but that looks cooler

>>148110387
>pointiff curved sword along with a whip
Classy, anon, I like it.
With the curved sword, you could go for something Arabic-sounding, perhaps, if you want to take it that route. Near East mysticism and all that, with the sorceries.

>>148110849
thought about going for a arabic name as well, but i rather prefer something that sounds similar like "nameless usurper" which doesnt mention a name and is more of a title name.

I'm about ready to give up.

Gitting gud is fucking impossible. May as well just go hollow.

>>148111209
lmao just press r1

>>148111134

"Irithyll Snatcher" or similar maybe? The Irithyllian body type in the character creator mentions the idea that children born pale are fated to be taken to Irithyll, which we also know to be the home of the man-eating Aldrich, so the idea of a stealthy agent of Irithyll that goes around abducting pale-skinned children (to feed to the sludge) isn't too much of a stretch.

>>148111209
wait before you get hit, press b and forward to the enemy, the press r1 and back

>>148111134
Partisan of the Flame?

Lothric Spear or Longsword for Lightning infusion?
Does it matter other than moveset?

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>>148110328
I've always liked the herald helmet and chestpiece for that sexy white cape.

As for miracles, probably a weapon buff if it can be applied to your weapon of choice.

>>148111209
Equip a cestus, wait for your opponent to press r1 and press l2 then r1. This is very complicated, I know.

>>148111621
In PvE? Doesn't matter.

Though, honestly, elemental infusion isn't great in DS3, unless you have a build taking that in mind.

>>148111621

One probably has better damage. I don't really know though.

>>148111209
What exactly are you having trouble with?

>>148111423
i like the idea, but it just doesnt sound threatening enough.

>>148111209
What's the problem?

>>148111676
herald armor has a serious lack of pauldrons

>>148111882
go back to your throne, Emprah

>>148111914
they don't have to be head-high. looks too girly without

>>148111882
>there are 40k faggots in this thread right now

>>148111871
>>148111787
It feels like basically everything to do with PvP. I think I might just be retarded at spacing and timing.

Do weapon buffs scale all the way to 60? So if I want to maximize lightning blade buff damage, I need 60 faith, right?

>>148112037
fuck off retard, i haven't played any wh. get your arm chopped offif you want, it's none of my business. but you look gay

>>148112118
Try to get more into parrying. You'll win 50% more fights if you do.

If it's on invading hosts and their cuck squad, just go gorilla warfare and retreat into the level. Look for a good time to strike and kill a phantom.

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>>148112012
>he's so insecure about his masculinity he needs pauldrons to feel comfortable
>mfw

>>148112037
>pauldrons are from 40k

>>148104861
The whole Dark Souls series is a rushed mess.
Of course the fanboys around here don't like hearing this. It was their first hardcore game after all.

>>148112279
>>>148112193

>>148112012
The problem with the Herald gear is that it doesnt look manly unless you give yourself wider shoulders, but then all the actual knightly armour starts looking overly bulky

>>148111423

same guy >>148111834

also, the name is 1 letter too long.

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>>148110535
fuck
im not original at all

>>148111717
>>148111745
I guess Lightning Spear then.
I'm not too worried about PvP for this character.

Mostly a righteous holy man coming in to help players slay filthy undead and those disgusting dragons.

who here wanna duel

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>>148112759
If you are planning to eventually do NG+ coop, you can invest a bit more into faith and attunement for sunlight spears. They melt dragons, work great on other bosses with lots of summon activity like Champ too and look sexy as fuck.

I know I shilled this build for coop before but goddamn it's fun.

>>148113149
Whats the stat spread?

>the archdragon wyvern miniboss has about as much health as fucking Yhorm
end my suffering

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>>148113217
Swap ringslots 3 and 4 to havel and favor if you want to do ebin lionman cospay for appropriate bosses.

>>148113386
>He ignored the fuckton of developer messages outright telling you to use a plunging attack.

Your suffering is well deserved

>tfw 'dragonslayer' weapons/armor dont get passive bonuses against dragons

>>148113504
>epic lionman
>without leo

>>148113589
>falling for this ancient bait

When should I access the DLC?

Just got the lordvessel.

>>148113607
desu as long as you're not into minmaxing damage you can put on leo instead of morne's and still shit lightning all over dragons. I did like 1600 dmg on KotS' head even without it.

/dsg/ help, SotFS soundtrack MEGA is down

>>148113589
>miniboss
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the second one

>>148113685
after 4kings for an early +15 weapon

How the fuck do I deal with Gotthards Memeswords?

How the fuck do i deal with latency?

>>148107703
>katana with no buffs
>cancer
nah

get an uchi and slap DMB on it

>>148114083
switch to a weapon that out ranges them

ugs, spear, memepole, etc

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gonna try an ornstein playthough in ng+4

hows this look

>>148113589
the miniboss, not the boss ya dung

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>>148107703
shit
go for 37 poise setup with a free ring slot for 125, havelmom is more for 135
especially given that you're doing havelmom wrong

>>148113149
AAAH...
IGNORANT SLAVES

nobody plays pve anymore?

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>finally murder that damned hunter eileen was after with some patience
>10 minutes later encounter an NPC ganksquad
at least hey had manageable levels of health but goddamn this is getting annoying

how is the tonitrus if i don't level arcane? going for a big stronk build
any other STR weapons to look out for besides kirkhammer?

>>148114567
They do.

But there's not much to talk about anymore.

At least until the DLC comes out.

>>148107703
>Head: Naked
Admit it, the only reason that is so is because you wanted to avoid accusations of Havelmom

>>148114601
Wrong general.