/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls

>BLOODBORNE
>>147705696

ds sequels are shit!

i want a souls bf

Blightown should be fucking deleted from this gaem

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xth for god bless proper pasta

>>147843237
>Capra design is fine not every boss has to be some guy in an open arena

It's literally luck based depending on how the dogs move.

DS1 pvp is afwul

>>147843410
i want a pcfc

>>147843202
Does it stop the running attack animation?

>>147843410
PC? And what souls game?

>>147843410
If you keep fucking posting this I will throatfuck you on your grandfathers grave while your mother is forced to watch and then I'll be your souls bf so you stop posting that.

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>>147843583
It just has virtually no recovery after a tick, from what i remember even WP can't do shit against passive surge.

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>>147833246
>Propaned capital

>>147843487
So is DS2 pvp
So is DS3 pvp
they're all terrible and people who actively enjoy and defend it are delusional morons or actually create income off of it.

WHAT SHOULD I NAME MY QT PYROMANCER (female)

>>147843487
>I need phantom range that hits behind me to not lose
lmaoing at ur life

>>147843691
HOT CUMSLUT

>>147843667
What's the weapon the red uses before switching to the Estoc?

>>147843667
You don't understand. The moment they see a mage they start spamming it from the get go. No way to cast any spells since no catalyst has hyperarmor on it.

>>147843583
No, it doesn't. You can WP your way through it just fine and get 500 damage counterhits. firesurge kiting is awful and overrated

>>147843449
spider shield is in the previous area. can get clumps by purchase or farming even earlier. rusted iron ring exists. git fucking gud
>>147843379
in my opinion, they should be treated like separate games. call ds2 Giant Souls and ds3 Ashen Souls, i don't know. From sucks at sequels

>>147843691
Hotti

>>147843682
DaS2 PvP was fine within the rulesets of that particular game's combat mechanics. Whether you dislike the combat mechanics in themselves is a separate issue.

>>147843449
Blighttown is great

>>147843812
Exile GS

>>147843449
You should be fucking deleted from this existence.

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>>147843691
Myra

Who's your Souls waifu / husbando, /dsg/ ?

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>>147842931
I hope they use this emote in the DLC

>>147843954
>haveldarkmagicpoisonbat PTSD
>twitchspinsbacsteps PTSD
NOOOO

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BEST WEAPON IN THE GAME

>>147843954
>DS2 pvp was fine
lol^2

>>147844074
Emoji masks.

>>147843691
Carmen

>>147843954
Not really. They're all trash. Stay delusional.

>>147843954
garbage hitboxes and netcode completely ruined das2 pvp regardless. Thats coming from someone who likes das2 more than das3

>>147844103
Plebbitor, pls

https://www.reddit.com/user/Revan619

>>147843449
Blighttown was one of the better areas of Dark Souls 1. It was a slog your first time through, but you felt accomplished after finishing it.

Kind of like World 5 from Demon's Souls. It's absolutely horrible, but it's satisfying to beat.

>>147844074
I just want Decapitate and No Way back. PvP isn't the same without them :^(

>>147844376
whats that link?

>>147844428
>not shrug

>>147844464
Don't play dumb plebbitor

>same build
>same rings
>same armor

You're not fooling anyone

>>147844518
maldron pls go

>>147844571
what?

>>147844428
Only good emote from Ds2 is this one's me

your 2 are the calling card of the pure essence of tryhad meta manifested in a 16 year old human body

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Is she cute, it's my first shot at a female with this editor.

>>147844763
Would throat fuck

>>147844691
Doesn't matter how much you pretend to be retarded. Don't spam your webms or shill videos here ever again.

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>>147844103
It's only particularly good when used against idiots.

>>147844763
Looks qt to me. Post a picture in better lighting

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>>147844876
make me

>>147844762
I wish we got something like No way to actually say no. There's no gesture for this purpose.

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>Spear mainhand, offhand straight sword
>Poke niggers to keep them out of range
>When they get aggressive and try to roll in, spam straight sword
>They eat 500 damage
>They try to run away
>Get spear poked as they escape
>Rinse and repeat

What have I become

>>147844884
>Now that's what I call ED
The tripfag is trying to tell us something

Why is everyone so fucking bad?

I just want to grind some sunlight tokens out of dragonslayer armor. He's one of the easiest bosses but even with my immense damage these scrubs die every time

>>147844763
Woud cuddle with!

>>147844394
on the other hand, they managed to make izalith as anticlimactic and disappointing. you slog through all the shittiness, nothing is particularly hard except if you try to melee the bounding demons, just annoying. the eyesore from lava, the constant sound from steping on it, the bad platforning with roots all around. then you reach the boss, which looks amazing and intimidating... and it's just some fucking gimmicky bullshit, with not a drop of satifaction even after you murder it, except using the fattest, baddest r2 you can deliver to kill it
fucking disappointing

>>147844986
>Why is everyone so fucking bad?
Because people who are gud don't need summons

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>>147844884
>only works against idiots
like all DS3 eclebs and 99% of the playbase

>>147844763
Remove turban and go to a well lit area.

>>147844986
The simple truth is most people are too goddamn stupid to even play a video game

>>147845094
Fair enough. It's just so frustrating watching some dark sword guy just stand still under charged attacks

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>>147845098
Sadly, that is a pretty accurate assessment.

>>147845130
>remove turban
BAD TASTE
Absolutely haram

>>147844986
The Skull Ring actually somewhat works on that boss. He prioritizes you with his opening attack and shield charges if you wear it.

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>>147844910
>>147845130

>>147843410
i want to be bullied by your souls bf

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>>147845210
>it's another "host sitting at the edge of the bridge trying to R1 spam through one of DS Armor's attacks" episode

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>>147843449
>he didn't get the master key

>>147845576
>no turban
P-Please my dick anon. Wear it.

>>147845576
Definitely cute. Would snuggle/10

>>147844691
He's saying you're the vit gouging retard that was suggesting vit builds are the future of the meta.

>>147844948
You got gud.

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>>147845751
wherever she is, she must also rape.

>>147845576
Impressive.

>>147845881
C U T E
U
T
E
she can rape me all day with those looks t b h
I want a character like her now

>>147845832
my build only has 40VIT tho, and thats so i can take advantage of flynns when i wear lighter amour.

>>147845691
>reading guides
No wonder you all bitch about poise and backstabs

>>147845576
Mirin that skin tone. Sliders please

>>147845881
fuck
sliders PLEASE

http://yourfaveissapphic.tumblr.com/post/146547077723/sirris-of-the-sunless-realms-from-dark-souls-3

>>147846075
Vit does nothing for Flynn's ring, though. The damage bonus from it is based on your raw equip load, not the percentage.

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>>147844024

>>147846089
I'll post them later when I get to Rosario. I saved a preset but tweeked some things before starting the game.

>>147846082
>not intuitively recognizing that all the starting gifts except master key are shit
i bet you picked the pendant

>>147846287
No worries. I just want the skin tone for my own qt waifu

>>147846205
nobody cares anon

>>147846205
??

>>147844024
My first character was named Mira
What gave you this idea for this name?

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>>147846253
>forever and true
>even if the whole world turns on you
>as long as you don't offer tongues to a mute cripple :^)

>>147845042
Yeah, at least Dark Souls 3 didn't have immensely shitty areas like Izalith or Stonefang 2.

>>147846591
I can't tell if he's being serious or retarded

>>147846505
Meera Reed from ASOIAF/GOT
she's from swamplands like pyromancers are

>>147846505
You could look at the picture anon.

>Invade
>Host and two phantoms
>Point to the phantom I want to fight first
>They honor the 1v1 and the other two step aside
>as soon as it's clear i'm going to kill the first guy his buddies hop in to save him
boooooooooooo

>>147846784
Oh that's some shit taste,anon.

>>147846297
>not realising the old witch ring is the best gift

>>147846784
meera a qt
>>147846915
shut the FUCK up

>>147843691

Quelana

>>147845881
nice one anon.
since alot of people are interested, pls add it here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EXGIWRHO8lgeHRyb8fzDMeKPpuzyWGq-HA9v-udWRYg/edit?usp=sharing

Tank builds are still the best way to play right

>>147846784
Oh yeah I forgot about her name, I named mine after a city in Portugal, I liked the sound of it

>>147846790
I just saw it after posting
I m not a clever hollow

>>147846224
jut checked
you're right...that kinda sucks:(

oh well, it still lets me -30% with more diverse gear on.

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>>147847015
Anon, I'm sorry you had to hear it like this.

>>147847015
You can manage a tank with pretty good absorption and almost 2000 HP, it's just not the only way of playing which makes poisefaggots mas as FUCK.

>>147843691

Jeanne

>>147846297
I unironically took the Tiny Being's ring.
Not my fault From are liars

That being said, the objectively best way to start is to play thief (because it dosen't really matter) so he gets master key and then take the old witch's ring

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>>147847015
>heavy weapon
>get outranged by meme weapons, running r1 and magic

So I just got darkmoon blade
yay me, now what fucking weapon do I use it with?

>>147846963
Asoiaf is literally baby's first book. Anyone who has read books before can tell you it's poorly written and the plot is a joke

>>147847183
Sellsword Twinblades

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Also, who thought these cunts were a good idea?

>>147847231
ok man, whatever

>>147847154
he never mentioned anything about heavy weapon though

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>>147846915
DELET THIS

What's a good light weapon for Sully, I'm using Sellswords +2 and getting my shit wrecked.

>>147847130
Yeah alright you lying faggot

>>147847259
Already got em.
Not impressed.

Will try carthus

>>147847307
>having so much trouble with twincest princes he resorts to GCFO crutch
Oh lucci

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so is the lucerne pretty much the second best weapon in the game now that bkg has been nerfed, estoc nerfed, gotthards nerfed, and ccs will be nerfed next patch, in which it'll be the first best

>>147847183
Drakeblood gs and Cleric's Candlestick
for more magic dmg
Glaive idk

>>147847605
>using weapons is a crutch meme

what are some good weapons and armor for pyromancers?

>>147847607
Gotthards are still godly. WP more so. It's just above estoc rn.

Why is ds3 such trash?

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>>147847765

>>147847787
Because it was designed from the ground up as a cash-grab.

>>147847787
opinions are subjective

>>147848125
quality is objective

>>147847015
How do you even make a tank when there is no poise and shields take a lot more of stamina than rolling?

>>147848192
your personal opinions on quality are subjective

I want a boss that actually banters at you and treats you like a person rather than a thing to whack repeatedly.

>comments on your armor and overall protection level, weapon etc.
>does not attack first, just turns around when you pass the boss fog and engages the banter
>"I'd really rather enjoy my afternoon than get into a fight to the death. Is that fine with you?"
>the only way to proceed is to kill him

Are greatsword any good? I don't play as well using a longsword and grown to rely on the hyper armor. Been able to trade and out space Halberds

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>nerfing weapons is just like the game itself
>when the fire fades, the champion rises from the grave
>when the meta weapons get nerfed, new weapons arise from their garbage holes

>>147848296
you're a nigger

>>147848235
Highest absorption possibly with llyods shield ring and some regen.
Also a shield that blocks 100% magic and fire withuot stamina loss.

If you watch your back you'll reck shit.

>>147847787
Brainless fanboy pandering
Botched deadlines worsened by early japan release
Weapon art makes weapons more varied meme
DaS2 had no redeeming qualities meme
Bloodborne legacy of reused assets and ideas
Roll system as a whole, starting with low cost and ending with giant i-frames for midroll
Blatant straight sword bias
Magic builds have mandatory ring sets and headwear

There's lots more but I'm already feeling autistic

>>147848390
GS don't get much hyperarmor or enough range to compete with halberds outside of pokes like Hollowslayer and Claymore

>>147848352
Play in Grimrock 2. One of the final bosses comments on pretty much your ever action, it was hilarious and unexpected. He even mocks you for healing and praises for casting highlevel magic.

>>147848447
ebin

>>147848352
I don't think I want a boss telling me I dress like a retard.

>>147848390
Some are, you can make good use of Hollowslayer

>>147848352
Oceiros kind of acknowledges you. But a black adder boss would be godly

>>147847787
It wasn't fully directed by Miyazaki-san.

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post fashion boys

>>147847787
I read a interview before that Miyazaki never wanted dlc or sequels and was pushed to make them. DS3 is a halfassed attempt for a sequel and filled with ds1 and demon souls callbacks to appease old fans and play it safe. It's fanservice: the game.

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>>147843678
>Propaned flame

I'm dying

>>147847005
Will do, I'll try to share some of my better looking guys and gals.

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Guys, for the best PVP experience, the recipe is SL120, post pontiff, one sunbro, way of blue equipped, dried finger. Fights usually end up being 3v3 and are fun AF

>>147848461
Can you even get such shield without the spell?

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>>147848604
I'm really liking this armor combo. It's a shame not many headpieces fit it.

>>147848785
That top looks completely out of place.

>>147848702
>the reclusive lord of the propaned capital

>>147848716
You'd be correct except for the fact that that location has the worst people to play with.

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How do i make them decent ?

>>147848409
More like
>someone discovers that something is blatantly OP
>it's so good that there's no reason to use anything else
>tryhards and fotm shitters flock to it
>nobody bothers to try anything else seriously
>it gets nerfed
>tryhards scatter in search of a new crutch
>the next strongest thing gets discovered, because now there's actually incentive to try things and figure out what else is strong
>fotm shitters flock to it and stop trying new things
>cycle repeats until devs stop caring enough to continue balancing their game.

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>>147848554
>I don't think I want a boss telling me I dress like a retard.
Getting too much'o'dat in them thar threads right here are ya?

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>>147848716
Welcome to the dried finger ganks in covenant locations my friend, funniest thing DS3 has to offer.

>>147849081
you don't

>>147849081
either REALLY low level or REALLY high

>>147849081
Go 40str/40dex and spam L1.

>>147848626
99end
99str
99dex
99int
99fai

>>147844948
A try hard

Lol does nobody understand what the ds sword spear does?

I'm constantly hitting people with its WA for massive damage

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>>147848979
Naw man, not too many people are shitters, and I only ran into one hacker

>>147849415
The WA is awful to dodge with even a little of latency. Everyone abuses that.

>>147848716
>>147849175
group pvp is the only thing this game does right

wish more people would participate

>>147849081
>buffable (maybe)
>+5 D/C/B/B
>make D/C physical scaling good as long as it fits the top 5 curved swords.
>raise base magic dmg, but each attack deals a type of magic not both.

>>147848716
>3v3
Its not though
its 3 R1 spammers v 3 with friendlyfire:on

>>147849629
HAYAI!!

>>147849081
They're not bad, really. Subpar is the word.

Dusk Crown to Logan Hat mod when?

>>147848775
no. but that is fine.
The shield spells are epic.
you can go as low as medium shilds with it!

So boost up that vit and vig.

Only learn about the cathedral after beating the catacombs and old demon.

Was wondering why the game got so hard.

>>147849415
You need good timing and that's tricky with latency.

>>147849792
Stop pretending the problem is the damage instead of the awful moveset.

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>>147849629
>sanic-level attack speed
>still does literally no damage
Can't make this shit up, bows are the worst they've ever been

is gundyrs halberd good?

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So, returning to DaS1, why are my rolls so shit? Black Leather armor when?

>>147850027
He's using shit arrows and unupgraded bow.

>>147850027
He's using rapid fire, it decreases damage for speed.

>>147850036
good for cosplaying as gundyr

also you can impale onikiri&ubadachi users' special attack with it

>>147850150
Lower Burg, no?

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>>147849812
Just BC R1 shitters, its not that hard. I was rolling with another UGS bro and having a gr8 time

>>147848409
The sad part is that for every "meta weapon" it has a little brother that people already use for whatever reason

The ccs has the c shotel, the dork sword has a fucking gaggle of ss that have better move sets right behind it, pre nerf FUGS had other great weapons with better move sets behind it, and so on and so forth

The fact of the matter is that unless from nerfs shit into the ground like they did with FUGS, there won't be any reason for people to switch. Even if the card captor is nerfed to shotel AR then what's the difference? You have to hit people one or two more times for the kill. Big fucking deal

What they need to focus on at this point is keeping AR competitive in weapon classes so that we can enjoy variety and variety is the reason why I use a lot of the weapons I do. They're still really good in their own rights but you might not see them nearly as often because Hurr durr that's not eceleb approved

>>147850150
>rolls are shit
Step the fuck up. I beat the game as default fatroll knight

>>147849641
>>147849958
Just get out of range or hit me quickly.

>>147849981
The problem is split dmg, which isn't the weapon's fault. it has the potential of becoming a dex's or pyro's twinaxe equivalent despite the moveset.

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Is this the same skeleton from the "shh, that's the sound of git gud" meme?

>>147850365
You can justify ganking however you like. The fact that one "side" inherently risks damaging their teammate while your side doesn't makes it bullshit.

>>147849081
Go full quality, leave int/fth at min reqs.
Stay at the lowest level where you can be 5+ and still find matches. The elemental damage scales with physical stats, so there's no need to invest in int/fth.

Basically, they're awful at like pre-+5 because people have a tonne of free flat defense and split damage weapons double-dip into that. Flat defenses scale very little with level, while they gain a tonne of damage per upgrade level, which basically means that even earlygame players have flat defense balanced against endgame weapons, making anything with split damage that isn't fully upgraded absolute trash.

At 40/40 and +5, they actually deal solid damage, and L1s will typically hit players for 300 damage, combo for 600 and so on. After hitting +5, they obviously get progressively weaker the higher level you go, since flat defenses still do scale up (albeit very gradually).

So I guess peak performance would be a level ~80 quality build.

>>147850618
>you'll never play with this anon
it is

I gotta say, as short and rushed Profaned Capital feels, it's a lot better than most DS2 areas.

What the heck do i do with the fire keepers soul? Seems to have no use except curing hollowing.

>>147850628
>tfw invading as mage causes my hcsms to attack other reds and css sometimes oneshots friendlies

Fucking Miyazaki

>>147847607
Wait black knight glaive and gottards got nerfed?

>>147850721
Here's your (You).

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I love it when people stick to cosplays.

Did Kobra and his SL80 nigger crew finally give up?

>>147850721
It is not
Nor are Carthus catacombs, road of sacrifice, Anor Londo, consumed king garden or untended graves. They're all 100% certified garbage that actually manages to be worse than DaS2

>>147850721
You don't need to lie, anon

>>147851004
>b-but they look pretty!

>>147850948
Everybody gave up on ds3 pvp ohohoho

>>147848592
Miyazaki is a hack and ds2 was better without him

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>>147850948
I think its safe to say nearly everyone gave up on this game altogether
It was only good for the waifus

>>147850886
>>147851004
>>147851009
Why are DS2fags so defensive? I've played DS2 too and the base game had terrible areas.

http://mmdks.com/89wq
am i cancer enough?

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>>147844103
>that damage
>his damage

how tho?

>>147851296
Ds2 had good level design

>>147851296
Name the DaS2 areas you disliked
While you're at it, name DaS2 areas that can be skipped in 2 mins like some of the piece of shit areas of DaS3

>>147851347
I'm gonna guess it's physical defense stacking and the perseverance damage reduction.

>>147851296
Perhaps because everybody bashes the game even though it's pretty good?

>>147844103
Does Pers count as a body buff?

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>>147850628
>Each phantom attacking another single phantom
>Gank

Sure, it turns into a "gank" after one side loses a team-mate, but that's their fault for losing to their opponent. That's like saying its not fair in dodgeball that when someone gets hit, they have to leave the court. Sure it sucks that phantoms can hit each other, but it doesn't happen If the players aren't shitters

>>147851004
>tfw a lot of these areas are smaller, has little to no short cuts, and linear design compared to RNG dungeons of bloodborne

If they couldn't design a level they should have let the computer did it and then recoat it, infact I think that's what happened with Catacombs and Demon Ruins.

DaS3>DaS=BB>DeS>DaS2

>>147851863
Then why aren't you playing invader? :^)

>>147851935
bb>ds1>des>ds3>>ds2

>>147851935
Lolno

DaS>BB=DeS>>DaS2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DaS3

>>147844103
>literally stealing my literal fashion

back off?!?!

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>got 5 cracked eye orbs
>shitter with phantom
>shitter with phantom
>shitter with phantom
>shitter with phantom
>shitter with phantom

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>>147844103
that was pretty funny watching in stream
>goes in for swing
>sees perseverance activate
>"oh i just fucked up"
>"WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW SO STRONG"

rip jelly

>>147852000
Cos I'm trying to make it to the next bonfire with hoards of phantoms coming to attack me :^)

>>147852442
Nah you're just a shitter

>>147852189
Getting the uncracked red eye orb is braindead easy in this game. Since you likely got the 5 orbs from shadow the hedgehog at Firelink you're only a skip and a hop away.

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>>147851476
Heide
Huntsman Copse
Harvest Valley
Undead Crypt
Black Gulch
Dragon Aerie-Shrine
Shaded Ruins
Tseldora
Sinner's Rise
Giant's Memories
Grave of Saints
Door of Pharros
Iron Passage
Cave of the Dead
Frigid Outskirts
Both Belfries
Throne of Want

Some of these can be run through in even less than 2 minutes.

>When you meet a player who isn't fighting optional bosses
>When you meet a player who isn't exploring side areas
>When you meet a player who hasn't been collecting undead bone shards and only has ~3 total bars of HP

>>147852178
i don't wear it for fashion, i wear it because its the best def/weight for my build.
and im sure that why you wear it too.

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>>147852575
Damn, you sure got me!

This one illustrates your point much better, but the important part is I still had fun and these invaders probably turned off their game and cried because From isn't babying them

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>tfw when you're playing dark souls 3 and you never played a dark souls game in your life

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Anyone here have more than 10 characters?

I'm tempted to create/backup a different save file just for characters I won't lvl up much Twink/cosplay/low lvl meta
I know some of you do it for the FCs areas

>>147852902
lmao dark souls sure is hard guise git gud casul xd

>>147852189
Man, I remember playing on release day
>encounter leonhard right after vordt
>use all 5 orbs on the high wall
>A connection error has occurred
>A connection error has occurred
>A connection error has occurred
>finally get a proper invasion
>it's a host with 2 phantoms and a seed hiding at the bonfire
>he plugpulls when he's about to die
>last CREO
>A connection error has occurred
Before the first patch you needed 2 tongues to get the full orb, too, so I was locked out until Cathedral of the Deep because in 5 CREO I got matched with 5 plug-pullers.

>>147852837
i just think it looks heckin cool

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>>147852189
>tfw won my first invasion and lost only once with starting 5 orbs

>>147853032
it does look pretty neat
except for the saggy grandma arms

>>147852902
Anyone get the sense DaS 3 is generally easier/less tedious than 1? I haven't had to grind in a single area whereas I spent like an hour in the Undead Burg once

>>147853006
There aren't even 10 builds in DaS3, what the fuck are you doing?

>shitter gets a lucky one shot backstab in one of my invasions at lvl 60
>"lol not even giantdads can beat me"
>invade him again and kill him
>50k souls
>lvl 247
ayy lmao

>>147853006
Make a family shared account, much easier to manage than save swapping.

How much endurance do I need to swing the Old Wolf Curved Sword well?

>>147853276
Just off the top of my head:
Cosplays, twinks, meta (30, 50-60, 80, 100 ,120), one-shot builds (soul stream, Greatbow).

>>147853509
already have one, thanks.

>>147850898
>parry me the cosplay

I mean I guess

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>>147852148
>das2 better than anything

>>147853663
as if anyone needed a reminder that ds3 sux

So, can we theorize a bit.
What would the most defensive character look like?

There are plenty of defensive mechanics in the game.
Aside from rolling, which is something you always use anyway what combination would be the most efficient?

I was thinking about a Low req. raw weapon with the minimum INT needed for G.Magic shield.
Pump it up with the needed STR for a black knight shield and the rest goes into VIG and VIT.

Then how about supporting the build with regen? as Regen is obviously the strongest defensive mechanic atm.

Or any other ideas?

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FINALLY MY GENOCIDE CRUSADE HAS COME TO AN END

http://www.babynamespedia.com/meaning/Aldrich

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>>147853718
>meta (30, 50-60, 80, 100 ,120)

>>147854098
just equip a halberd for maxrange+damage and only attack when they lose access to their i-frames (when they attack)

works 100% of the time.

my save data got magically deleted somehow and I had no backups, who wants to be a sweetie and give me a copy of theirs?

fucking hell, how rare the dark gems are? I've been farming the pus of men for 2 hours now for nothing

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Post weaponfus

I also like gotthards and I swear it's not for the roll poke, pls no bully

>>147854259
yeah I already do that on my STR guy.
I just felt like fiddling with the game now that I have multiple chars.

And maxing out defense sounds nice as I usually play tanks as mains in other games.

>>147850898
>ornstein
>not a sunvader

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>>147853806
you have high expectation of other ds players

>>147854240
>there is only one meta for me
behave now

>>147854398
Just get one from the second skeleball.

>>147853609
35+

Cool visual that when The End of Fire ending fades out, due to the way the cutscene is rendered in the game engine, if you have the pyromancy flame equipped it's the only thing that stays bright and visible until the scene cuts off.

>>147853609
I have 24 but I was planning on going up to 40.

>base stamina is already high, END does almost nothing more
>base equip load is already high, VIT does almost nothing more
Was this deliberate or just From being retarded?

>>147854541
the one near the catacombs bonfire?

>>147854240
>Only playing a single meta
Autism

>>147854793
Yeah. It's at least guaranteed once, but I'm not sure if it ever drops a second time.

>>147854098
Use Crystal Chime for that extra regen on top of Heal Aid + Sage Ring +2 which is fast enough to be a problem for passive players. If you need to cast something like Bountiful Light in the middle of a duel you'll probably want Crystal Hail/Homing Soul Mass.

M E T A
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/54000

hi guys
im really bad
how do i win in pvp

>>147854631
>>147854668
Alright, thanks.

>>147855151
Equip a carthus and approach while tapping R1

>>147855040
too many points wasted on END.

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>>147854493

I really like being outranged by everything

But I also really like landing L1-L2-R2 for 1300 damage

>>147847607
Wait is my favorite weapon popular now? I've been using this with an offhand mirrah sword since the start as my main build and I never see it on PVP

>>147855151
never attack first

>>147854893
I'll try it, thanks

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>>147854493
I'm a bit of a whore

>>147854098

Red-Hilted Halberd for both pers-tanking hits and shield poking. A blessed shield on switch would also be valuable.

>>147855326
It feels good landing that combo

>>147855348
you know you got a shit game when the winning strategy is to sit around and wait

Can't even toxic you faggots anymore

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>>147855151
run behind people and BS.

>>147855526
Hey man, I don't do that shit. I can't afford with as a strength build.
I got rekt yesterday by a reactive dark sword R1 spammer and I've literally never gotten so mad at someone in a video game. And I never get mad at video games.

>>147854759
END being like that was something carried over from Bloodborne, where the gameplay was such that they couldn't really afford to let stamina be a limiting factor, so gave you a fuckload of it and huge regen out of the box and made END a worthless stat.

From tends to have issues like that. They design the game with a minimum amount of stamina in mind, and a stamina ceiling around which they can balance weapons. But, the difference between the floor and the ceiling ends up being so narrow that it doesn't really justify being a stat.

You gain so little stamina per point of endurance in 3 that it honestly might as well have been tied to another stat. The END/VIT split made sense in 2, where stamina was extremely limited and thus END was super valuable, and where armor was actually worthwhile (and had poise!) so VIT had a value, too. In 3, neither of these stats do enough on their own to compare to the value of vigor and str/dex/int/fth, so each point put into one is effectively a level wasted to provide a fraction of the power that a level in those other attributes would have given you.

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>>147854493
I make a beeline for it in every game and she's never let me down yet. Perfect moveset, perfect reach, perfect swing speed, perfect damage. You literally cannot ask for more from a GS.

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Jesus.

>>147855798
Not to mention a god-tier WA in 3.

>>147855798
>You literally cannot ask for more from a GS.

Except you can. Hollowslayer 2HR1 is better. Also I haven't seen claymore once since release

>>147855728
And then to double down on bad decisions they give us vit with nopoise and big diminishing returns on absoprtion

A lot of talent leading that developer team :^)

>>147855894
>there's like two greatswords with Stance
I guess that's the tradeoff for it being so good.

>>147855894
Definitely. Stance is fucking amazing.

>>147855894
>Guard break in a game where no one uses shields
>No-range telegraphed lunge
>God-tier
Explain

>>147856073

it has armor and huge damage reduction

you can literally trade with anything and come out ahead

>>147855865
still less than on a good weekend tbqh

>>147856073
R1 is great if you can pull it out on the fly to deal with turtles and R2 is excellent for rollcatching. Even on my broadsword that has the range of your dick.

>>147855628
Ironically, being reactive is the best way to use ultras.
Their tools of aggression are shit and everything they do is punishable by a reactive player. Your best bet to beat someone competent is to just play even more passively, draw out the fight obnoxiously and capitalize on the eventual carelessness that boredom provokes. Basically the only way you're ever going to win is by scoring that surprise HA trade, and nobody playing passively with a meta weapon will ever swing into your HA and get hit unless you play so passively and lull them into such a boring, repetitive pattern of mirrored passiveness that they get careless and give you chances to find that lucky trade.

The funny thing is that weapons like the CCS and longswords have all the tools to play aggressively, but choose to play passively because it's easier and safer (and thus requires less skill to perform consistently). Ultras have none of the tools necessary to play aggressively. Passive play basically is your aggressive play, because if an ultra user plays perfectly, and only ever swings when they're certain to land a successful hit, then you'd be swinging less than once every 5 minutes. They're just too awful at everything to do anything but wait and capitalize on enemy errors, and the after the enemy plays, the better they are at playing safe, the longer you have to wait before there's an oppourtunity for an attack from your weapon to actually accomplish anything other than getting you punished.

So it's inevitable; I've grown bored of duels. What are some good weapons and/or builds for invading? I've tried Lorian's GS, Spiked Mace, Lothric Long Spear, Broadsword, Gotthard TS, Demon's Fist (ugh), and Butcher Knife with very low success on each. I have respecs available so I'm willing to try anything. Feedback would be appreciated. Thanks to anyone who responds.

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Hey Gang, it's MartyrsBrigade here.

I lost my savefile somehow probably because windows 10 is a piece of shit. Does anyone wanna give me a copy of theirs? You'll have a dopelganger running around but I don't think that'll be much of an issue.

>>147856278
Being reactive is the best way to play ds3 pvp period and thats why its shit

Will I get more concord summons if I have Sentinels or Dorkmoon equipped? Or does it matter which one I equip?

>>147856282
Try the lucerne or the partizan/long spear. I use both and the leo ring and its the shit. Also the warpick if you want a faster option but its short as fuck

>>147856515
Do both, you have four ring slots

>>147856167
>it has armor and huge damage reduction
Was that in since launch or has it been buffed? I swear it felt shitty back during launch when I first tried it. Or is the greatsword version stronger than the straightsword one?

>>147856580

But only one PvP slot.

>>147856282
Refined Lucerne with Leo Ring. Fishing for R1 trade hitconfirms into combo is so fun.

>>147856278
This...what i do with Fume is roll punishing and trade whenever i can. I try to aim my R1s if I attack first but it's kinda useless and tbqh I find it the most boring thing to do. So I play more aggressively instead and get rekt by Card Captor

>>147856515
I think Dorkmoons get double concords if you happen to spawn into a world with an Aldritch Faithful and kill them.

>>147856576
>>147856727
Okay, thanks for the feedback.
I'll give it a whirl. ;^)

>>147856582
Straight swords stance R2 have insane HA and damage reduction, it's pretty much perseverance in disguise.

>Mfw I won a trade against Propane with it

>>147856961
They do. You have to break the item apart first before turning it in though - it's a consumable that gives you two instead of just getting one.

>>147856961
Same way Rosaria Fingerers get forked tongues if they kill a blueberry.

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Am level 91 just after beating Smelter Demon. How overleveled am I?

>>147856961
>Implying dorkmoons don't die to pve within 10 seconds of getting summoned every time

>>147856961
It's not for killing aldrich
The conditions to get a double-ear are currently unknown, but the aldrich thing was debunked.

>>147857431
You'll typically be rounding 100 by the time you cross the Shrine of Winter, so if Iron Keep was your 4th greatsoul area then you're right on track.

>>147856463
passive playstyle has ALWAYS been the best way to fight, since demon's souls, it's not something inherent to DaS3

Why may the fextralife wiki contain wrong info? I used it for a while because the wikidot wiki was still all empty at the time

>>147857652
But that's totally wrong you get bullied if you try to pull that passive reaction shit in Des or Ds1

>>147856030
Claymore
Flamberge
Hollowslayer
All of them are pretty good, GSoJ and Twincest have a modified version of it.

>finish up multiple characters across all SL ranges for invading as well as duels
>finish up SL10/+0 high wall invader first
>invade on it for shits and giggles

these are hands down the most bizarre invasions I've seen, I don't even know what the fuck is going on half the time

I just invaded some dude with full ornstein's and a yhorm greatshield that dc'd on me cause I just rolled all his attacks while not attacking

do we want pcfc RIGHT NOW?!
Y/N

>>147857431
Ds2 has a far higher level average per completion. Its not unusual to be 150 at least by the end. Levels are far less expensive than ds3 and the base game alone twice the content of ds3

>>147856073
R1 has Armor thorough most of the attack
R2 is good for roll-catching, and it's always thrust damage even if the weapon doesn't list it.

>>147857901

I spent 10 seconds vigorously rubbing my Avarice tongue on an invader in Archdragon's today before he BC'd out.

for some reason i can't attune spells. i have the attunement, i have the spell but for some reason the option for attuning spells isn't even there. what gives? ds1 btw
>>147857938
the answer is always Y and you know it

>>147857938
B-but I'm tired now. Fug. Me and my FUGsword can't join.

>>147857938
i would partake as long as its not in an endgame area.

havent reached pontiff yet.

highwall or farron bridge possible?

>>147856727
I just tested the combo on a friend and he could roll out of the last hit of the L2R2 combo. Is it still worth upgrading?

>>147857791
you never encountered good ds1 reactive players if you're spewing bullshit like this

>>147848352
That would carry a possibility of it being total cringe tier depending on the quality of writing and voice acting.

I liked the way they did things in DS3, but honestly less is more in terms of boss dialogue. Normal characters maybe, but not bosses.

I think that in Dark Souls the bosses don't have to speak, they communicate everything via body language. Take O&S for example from the first game. They communicate their entire presence without saying a word, and when one of them dies, the cutscene communicates an incredible amount of emotion without a single bit of dialogue. In contrast to this, I think that if Artorias had had dialogue, it would've been cringeworthy.

>>147858245
Nah I've played just about every type of player in Ds1 and you're wrong

>>147857791
go ahead, try to actively backstab fish or throw random R1s against someone who knows how to play
you'll quickly get destroyed

>>147858319
post your best build

>>147858247
That's only because Artorias himself is fucking cringeworthy. If he had had dialogue it would have had to have been some Dark Flame Master-tier shit just to do the character justice.

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>>147858087
everyone said no earlier

>>147858104
GET YOUR ASS IN HERE YOU BIG FUGING BABBY

>>147858163
i might do Distant Manor again since people liked it last time, can you get to that? if not just do the doll skip

>>147857431
I didnt even know iguanas moved that fast

How do I maximize my chance of being blueberry summoned?

>>147858389
He has cut dialogue

>>147858087
Bonfire

>>147858381
Why would I give you dweebs my builds?

>>147858327
>Toxic and apply lloyds liberally
play passive all you want :)

>>147858247
You'd need a preacher type character. It'd be totally fitting for the Deacons to dump religious sermons all over you while you're fighting them.

>>147858183
yes
lucerne is probably the second best weapon in the game now right behind ccs

>>147858389
That reminds me the abyss watchers
If they re such fanboys of artorias, why dont they use shields? Artorias used a shield all the way up until he ventured into abyss

>>147858002
>and the base game alone twice the content of ds3
I'd say it's more like 25%-33% bigger when it comes to the base game. Some areas in DaS3 are really big.

>>147858527
>Toxic and apply lloyds liberally
oh, so you don't know what you're talking about
good to know

>>147858247
Artorias has cut dialogue. It's as bad as you imagine.

>>147858581
legend passed down gets changed over time etc etc

>>147858406
meme area i repeat meme area

>>147858406
NO, I WAS ALREADY TOO TIRED YESTERDAY AND I'M MORE TIRED TODAY. FUGsword is resting for today.
>mfw i have to wake up in 6 hours and i'm not sleeping yet

>>147858623
lol nigga I'd fucking stomp you in Ds1 suck a dick