/dsg/ - Souls General

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>>147872309
Why is Gascoigne wearing the firekeeper robes?

why the fuck do u persist in changing the op
honestly lucy and his fuckbois

>>147872453
That's his coat.

OK, everyone's complained a lot about DS3 and everyone knows it's far from perfect.

Now, lets flip that around: tell me which PvE area in DS3 is the best designed and most engaging.

>>147845576
Still no sliders?

>>147872776
T H I S
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>>147872453
Actually the Firekeeper is wearing his coat.

>>147872494
This OP has everything the last one does except the DSCM and DS3 auto-summon links, which are outdated/unnecessary by now.

The last OP is also missing the Bloodborne pastebin (deliberately, since it was made bye the anti-bloodborne shitposter who has been doing this for months).

If there's some thing that needs adding to the OP let me known and I can update it.

>new video on vitality and with the right armor you can actually reduce a substantial amount of damage
>suddenly tons of copy cats using the exact same armor and build in the video
nice

Has From announced anything about the bug autosummoning covenants? Are they even trying to fix it?

>>147872731
I like Lothric's areas the best, even though some places have too many bonfires/shortcuts for my taste.

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>>147872309

>Draw
http://doodleordie.com/r/darksouls
http://imgur.com/a/XhBxC (DeS)
http://collageanon.imgur.com/
http://flockmod.com/dsg

>>147872731
Jailers were by far the best/worst experience I've had in PvE. Those fucks were really frustrating before I understood what they actually did.

>>147872948
they've tried a few times, some fixes help people while it makes it worse for others

>>147872731
Undead Settlement. It rapidly starts to deteriorate after that.

>>147872893
which video are you talking about

>>147873023
It's in there:

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm

I put it in a pastebin since it was taking up a lot of space.

>>147872891
>the anti-bloodborne shitposter
that game has it's own general, you're the autistic one for creating a redundancy

it either needs to stay out of the OP or that general needs to stop being made if they no longer have a population

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suitable for low level invasion fuckery?

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/54059

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>>147873023

>>147873115
You go pyro with black flame and dark serpent ;^)

>>147872891
if BB didnt have its own fucking general by all means add it in, this shit was and has always been demon's/dark souls general(hence /_____d_____sg/), you faggots forcing your op and pretending its always been that way is starting to get real fuckin old

>>147873101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf6t8kb85Qw this i guess

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>>147873254
Hi, shitposter-kun.

Beast weapon for a pyro onebro? There's only like 13 in total I can use worth anything. I'm torn between the Pickaxe (wish I could use the Warpick) for damage and the Hand Axe for agility. All weapons chaos, except the Giant Blacksmith's Hammer which I can two hand and is surprisingly fucking great when lightning does more damage.

No reinforced club or morning star. Don't like clubs and I've never understood the appeal of the effectively redundant bleed.

>>147872731
Undead Settlement. the initial area where the dogs get loosed is interesting and sets the mood nicely. then there's the big enemy filled area with all the worshiping and multiple directions to take. lots of new npcs to meet, lots of loot everywhere and in hidden little spots. lots of side areas like the fire demon area and the cliff underside. and lastly an easy but pretty cool boss

that area as a whole is one of my favorite in the series

Thinking about the whole talking bosses thing more and I think that if a boss talks, it should be handled like the twin princes where they only talk during a cutscenrle and not a whole lot then either.

There could be room for a humanlike boss talking to you, but I wish it was then setting appropriate instead of genre-conscious trash. I like fights having the same level of gravity as in when Guts fights Griffit in Berserk. The kind of "no words, the swords do the talking". Artorias was a top tier boss because of how the fight was flowing, and how him giving you short breathers by slow walking inbetween aggressive spurts made it look cinematic AND feel challenging as a result.

would anyone be willing to trade me a Mirrah set

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OFFICIAL /dsg/ SMOULDERING LAKE PC FC™

nothnin' personnell edition

Signs go on the hill pictured here!
>>147869589

>>147873262
did Eygon genuinely love her?

>>147873342
>you faggots forcing your op and pretending its always been that way is starting to get real fuckin old
It's been that way since before DaS3 release, back when people were calling it Soulsborne General.

how do i go about making a warrior faith build

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How do I make gravelord greatsword dance not so worthless? I've been told I can get some damage out of it by using velka's talisman, is that true?

>>147873308
the dark miracles and sorceries are really that bad?

>>147873578
on my way

>>147873468
if on pc then yes, where at?

>>147873678
it will always be worthless anon
the only thing you can do it is to use it for twinking

>>147873356
holy shit, time to level up vitality l guess

>>147873694
Very much so, but those dark pyromancies are fucking amazing. Black Serpent has amazing tracking right now and Black Flame is an amazing wake-up attack, really worth checking out.

>>147873581
the shield's moan is a magical recording of her real voice

>>147873678
you use it the same way you would use surprise buttsex chaos firestorm

>>147873709

Sorry I should have mentioned I was on xbone but thanks for the kind consideration friend

>>147873694
they are still shit
lifehunt needs to be reworked from a ground to act like flashsword to be useful
gnaw will never hit anyone
great deep soul is KINDA useful but only because it's a soul arrow, and normal great soul arrow is still better
dark edge desperately needs a fucking hyperarmor to hit someone, it would actually be pretty decent if you could use it for trading

>>147873356
suscribed, is the channel yours?

>>147872776
It'll let you guys know when I post them on the sheet later, I haven't forgotten.

>>147873027
I still don't fully understand how the fuck they work. All I know is if you get near them when their lantern is red your HP is fucked and torches do something to it since someone left a message about them.

>>147873578
summon pls

>>147873921
I'd prefer if it were faster though it would be trickier to balance it that way

>>147873921
is Deep Protection at least decent?

>>147873356
>not even testing against a partner with consistent damage
>acting like this proves anything

>>147873626
If you want to use Wolnir's Sword:
40str/13dex/40fth

If you want to use Morne's Greathammer:
50str/30fth or 34str/30fth(2H only)

If you want to focus on using weapon buffs and offensive miracles:
18str/14dex/60fth.

>>147873581
>love
the sound shield makes sounds like anything but sound of love
won't be surprised if some part of her is there, inside the shield

>>147874151
It's good in PvE.

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>>147873819
Don't, it's a waste of time. I checked it earlier today. You shave off 30 to 60 points of damage at best.

>>147873948
No.

>>147872731
I think Lothric Castle/High Wall is the best. Very Boletarian Palace-y, there's a good mix of enemies with different weapons, the knights are challenging and fun to fight, overall there's a lot of care put into enemy encounters and the's a lot of elevation differences and phtsical shortcuts. I agree that there are one or two bonfires too many, but otherwise that area is great.

>>147874231
>>147873843
Oh, I was talking about Irina, not the shield

>>147873606
Piss off, you retards have been doing this shit since Bloodborne came out and vaati came up with "Soulsborne".

>>147874151
>buffs
NAAAH

>>147873581

It's unclear, but he's very committed to his vow, and how upset he gets about you teaching her dark miracles shows that he's at least professionally concerned about her not becoming corrupted by Londor/Deep shit.

Maybe derision and indifference is how people from Carim behave towards their loved ones.

>>147874071
The Jailers reduce your hp by vision after their lantern lights up. That whole area was great, it was so much 3-1.
>those jailers
>that asshole Hollow that pushes you off the walkway the first time
>those prisoners
>those fucking screaming corpses

I only wish the area was longer to properly frustrate people.

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>washing pole's hitbox stats from 3/4 of the length of that thing now and if you touch someone with tip it won't do damage
Well i guess that thing needed a nerf but it kinda makes dark WP less useful against turtles.

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Why does this stupid fucking game pander to stupid fucking shitters and let them summon THREE stupid fucking phantoms and all while the stupid fucking host has twice as much stupid fucking estus as I do

god fucking damn

>>147874783
because you have an unlimited invasion orb and losing a few times per session is not a tragedy

>>147874242
>60 damage
>not a huge fucking deal

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>>147874783
Because it's the worst game in the series.

>>147874931
It wasn't in das2, it will not be in das3.

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>>147874783

git gud :^)

How much endurance do you have? ls 30/40 a must?

>>147874242
30 to 60 damage is a HUGE advantage against any spammy weapon that relies on r1 mashing

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Also, this is the first DS game where I've learned to fucking hate blue guys. They were kind of fun or honorable before, but now they just assist gankers by design.

>>147874916
Phantoms have an unlimited summon item and hosts have an unlimited game launch button :^)

>>147874976
At this point, I'm keen to agree. I put over 1500 hours into DS1 combined on console and PC but I can't imagine putting anywhere near that amount of time into this. Bringing poise back would make it better for me though.

>>147875010
Perfect.

>>147875040
How so? You'll survive another combo? Now that estoc is not dealing 240 damage per R1, it's dealing 210. Big fucking deal.

ls the bonus cast speed from dexterity noticable? Should l go all the way up to 40?

>>147875260
In DaS3, just use the Sages Ring.

+2 gives an enormous speed boost

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>>147875145
>ds1 baby AND poiseshitter
Well this explains everything.

why the fuck are people so scared of Humanity, again? the Abyss is honestly not that bad, once you get used to it

>>147875342
How about sages ring + 40 dex? Wouldn't that be op?

almost forgot that if the attack is within 45 miles of you you need to roll it and can't just be out of visual range

>>147875431
>what are diminishing returns

its like you dont even rpg bro

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>>147875431
You may have discovered a new meta, anon.

>>147875431
No, it caps out so I don't think it would make any difference. I hear 18 dex + ring is the cap, though that may not be 100% correct.

>>147875561
18 dex + Sage Ring +0 hits the cap, Sage Ring +2 hits the cap regardless of dex.

>>147875345
>runs up
>perfect time to r1 or some shit right after u roll r1
>chugs
wat

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>>147875345
>killing retarded players and laggers
>something to be proud of enough to post

>>147875561

With the +2 ring you don't even need to put a point into DEX, as far as I recall. It's something like 8 to reach the cap.

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GUYS THEY WON A 4V1 HAHA EPIC FOR THE WIN COME ON LE SUNBROS HIGH FIVE DO YOU EVEN PRAISE LE SUN?????/?/?? HAHAHAHA NICE DUDE R1 HAHA

>>147875818
Salty idiot.

>>147875818
my sides

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>>147875818
>he can't win a simple 1v4

>>147875818
your mad

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>>147875930
>bragging about winning invasions as a mage in rape cave
you're no better

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>>147875930
>stand back and mash L1
>skill

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>This guy slaps your girlfriend's ass

What do you do?

>>147876116
he's holding some shit weapons so turtle his ass out probably

>>147876116
Black Crystal his ass. What's he's gonna do now? He didn't win.

>>147876036
>>147876089
I'm not bragging nor am I saying I'm skilled.

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>>147876116
parry his baby daggers and shove my dick into him

>>147876180
>shit weapons
>le parry banana
>le oneshot 2500 damage dagger

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>>147875683
>implying you will meet anyone but retards while invading at pve levels
>implying you can't win 90% of your invasions easily

>>147876326
>monscim
>good anymore

>>147876326
both are nerfed into oblivion so gg ez

Would a buffed raw Corvian Greatknife be effective as a weapon in PvP on its own or would it have to be supplemented by spells/miracles for maximum effectiveness?

>>147876550
it's only good in 2h so you're locked out of casting
but anyone remotely competent will duel charm you or kite your buff

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>Go duel at Pontiff's
>Carthus 2kat
>Carthus 2kat
>Washing Pole
>Main hand spear, off hand straight sword

What do I even do? Do I just do dried finger runs?

Quit until the dlc comes out? How do I have fun?

I'm fairly sure at least one of the DLCs will be about the Abyss. There's a couple of Darkwraiths in Farron Keep that fight against the Abyss Watchers. We know that the Abyss Watchersfight against the Abyss, so that means that things that are in charge of the Abyss will fight them. I think it might be Kaathe manipulating people again.

best pvp faith spells?

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>>147876550
You'd be better off with no buffs and quality.

Greatknife is a reactionary poke and punish weapon.

>>147876425
This actually made me hard

>>147876726
Invade

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>dark souls 2 had the best pvp

>>147876726
You play DS2 pvp

>>147876726
>How do I have fun?
Black Flame them in the face every single time they try to parry, run attack or WA. Bully them from afar with Black Serpent. Thrall Axe to bully even harder.

>>147876730
vow of silence, great heal, sunlight spear, lightning blade, lightning stake

>>147876776
How do you have fun invading though?

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>>147876726
G E T

G U D

>>147876765
The difference between a raw greatknife and a 40/40 refined is like 8AR. A buffed greatknife can attack aggressively because it will out-damage unbuffed straightswords and the like. It;s one of the best buff carriers because it is fast enough to push against reactive players that;d otherwise try to turtle your buff out, and allows it to swing above its weightclass while already taking almost no investment.

The only downside is that you can't use it effectively while also casting spells since its 2H moveset is the only one that's worth using.

>>147876906
Be creative.

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>>147876815
It was the most fun

>>147876906
By outsmarting your opponent in a battle of wits and strategies, and using the environment to your advantage. Sadly, DS3 does not provide this experience.

How long does it get to take to get summoned as a Blue Sentinel?

Or would it be better to go Darkmoon for farming those Proof of a Concord Kept items?

ls sacred completely useless? lt takes 2 spell slots, costs 28 faith, on the other hand the sunlight straight sword only costs 16 faith and consumes no spell slots

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>>147876815
>>147876845

>>147876726
>Main hand spear, off hand straight sword

I just want to cosplay Ares, why does that have to be a shitter combo.

>>147872731
Lothric and the Undead Settlement are the flat out best, most engaging parts of the game especially in terms of PvE. Road of Sacrifices can't really compare, and Farron is a nightmare. The Cathedral of the Deep is very annoying and a little bit unfair in terms of PvE, but as a level it's got great design facets and enormous atmosphere. People riff on the Deacons but at least their fight has some pretty damn cool implications. That other anon is correct though and things rapidly start to deteriorate in terms of level design and mob engagement after that section of the game, and things don't really get better again until you make it back to Lothric.

>try to connect to friend with DSCM (without him knowing so I can invade him)
>DSCM says he's in a loading screen
>still in the loading screen 5 min later
LOAD PLEASE

>>147877127
>reactive cunt complaining about reactive cunts
c a n ' t m a k e t h i s s h i t u p

need more people at the FC or else it's no fun

>>147875010
the 2 hits stunlock system sure was a great idea...

>>147876726
Go back to dried finger runs, they are always way funnier than shitfest at pontiffs unless you are ganking.

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>>147877292
It wouldn't be fun regardless. We need another DS1 / 2 FC.

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Who names their characters shit like this

>>147877358
just toggle escape

So if Lloyd's Shield Ring only increases you absorbtion at above 99% health, does it just decrease the damage of the first hit of the fight?

How effective could that possibly be? Literally what is the point of this seemingly garbage ring?

>>147877405
host one

>>147876983
>The difference between a raw greatknife and a 40/40 refined is like 8AR.
50 AR, which is a lot for a weapon that deals 100-150 damage per hit.

>A buffed greatknife can attack aggressively
It's running attack is way too slow, and the other attacks can all be kited or predicted easily. The only things that are semi-good with buffs are weapons with good running attacks since you're just going to be chasing your opponent as they roll away until the buff runs out (unless they're retarded, but in that case you don't need a buff to win).

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>>147877127
DS2 hit detection was godly as well.

>>147877492
I guess it's just a shitty ring like the blue tearstone ring that you get early and you're supposed to ditch later when you've got better shit. But I don't really remember when or where I picked up LSR. Do you remember when you get it, anon?

>>147877492
Same purpose as the Life Ring, swap it for another ring after taking the first hit.

>>147877503
My main in DS2 has too much SM, and I don't think I have a free area open for a DS1 FC.

>>147877631
After you turn in the Paladin (I think, could be prisoner chief?) Ashes, you can buy it from the Shrine Maiden.

>>147877452
I wish

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>>147877492
You can use it twice thanks to life ring swapping and regeneration. You can greatly reduce the damage of two incoming hits, giving you a bigger health pool in total.

>>147876476
>>147876547
>implying

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>>147877409
Now this is why I have fond memories of DS2 invasions. Abusing afk hosts has never been more fun. Broke two items, one of which was a dragon ring.

>>147877635
>>147877698
Yeesh.

>>147877492
1st hit, yes
Metafags pair it with the life ring because you can take 1 hit with it active and then swap off your life ring, reducing your max Hp and this reactivating the effect of the shield ring for a double-dip.

With sun princess (which is typically swapped to after life ring) and a blessed offhand, you can turtle long enough for regen to top you back off if your opponent is too passive, potentially giving you a 3rd proc, too.

>>147877725
>twinking
meanwhile vs an actual player you would get backstabbed

>>147877837
vs an actual good player I wouldn't spam L2

>>147877725
i probably could go drink some tea and my opponent would still be in riposte animation by the time i return, holy shit ds2 swaps are hilarious to look at

>tfw das3 will never have das2 weapon/armor durability

fuck. attrition warfare is the best type of warfare

>>147877612
based estoc turtle dropping elite truth bombs on DaS2 PvP lovers

>>147877989
Thank fucking god they removed that useless, annoying mechanic and it's never going to return.

>>147877989
i miss invading people who healed at any time

king's ultra greatsword and its 3 durability damage per hit made them REGRET it

>>147878171
>i miss invading people who healed at any time
You know DS3 is out, right?

>>147877931
You should see Steel369 autistic swappings. He swaps like 3 rings and a weapon for every riposte, it's hilarious.

>>147878251
What weapons do high durability damage in DaS3?

YOu would barely ever see Katanas in DaS3 if they were as brittle as they were in DaS2

>>147878171
>implying you ever hit someone with that turd on a stick

>>147877785
What's so yeeshy

>>147877989
And then you meet someone who CE'ed a bunch of powder and got fucked.

>>147878103
>actually had to have back up weapons and not just use one weapon forever
>katanas weren't stupidly op

>>147877612
shouldn't have dropped your shield, estoc shitter :^)

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Should I give up on trying to make spears work in PvP? I've tried everything from 2Hing the LKLS to using Gargoyle Flame Spear with offhand daggers, whips, and shields, including bashing shields.

But shit always gets parried and the windboxes of greatweapons are fuckhuge, staggering me even when I use the longest moves I've got beyond maybe jump attacks, but the windup is so long and recovery times are so short that nothing is goddamn useful.

Also, do you guys think that a bleed build using spears could work?

Which Soulsborne game has the best co-op

>>147878401
couldn't you just meet up with a hacker that ce'd a bunch of sunny d sips too?

you could easily limit repair powder to like 1 per inventory

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Anybody want a co-op buddy in DS1 PC? I need 3 more Sunlight medals and don't feel like grinding sun maggots. SL99

>>147877989
>DS3 doesn't have the equivalent of the rat covenant
fucking BULLSHIT

god i hate magic

>>147878509
>Which Soulsborne game has the best co-op
DS2 has the best online multiplayer, period.

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>>147877409
>Who names their characters shit like this

Memers, like me.

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>>147878535
Fuck you this is dark souls 3 you don't deserve to have any kind of fun whatsoever

>>147878251
i mean people who would crunch a life gem for every hit taken, run away to heal

just so I could break them and their gear and hear that crunch

in das3 you can't punish healing, you can't do anything dickish at all

>>147878367
it wasn't at all hard

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OFFICIAL /dsg/ SMOULDERING LAKE DS3 PC FC™

Weird AFK roleplayers edition

Signs go on the hill pictured here!
>>147869589

Chaos or Dark thrall axe?

>>147877492
Depending on how effective the 25% damage mitigation actually is, I could see how it could theoretically be paired with already high damage absorbtion (from armor) and an extemely passive playstyle to create a leo ring trading build that might be sort of effective.

Does anybody know how effective that 25% would actually be in a one on one duel?

>>147878725
Chaos
Make Hand Axe Dark

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>>147878315
i fought him on arena with my turtle once and he fucking disconnected on me and acted surprised afterwards, shame never saved that stream and it was removed after some time

>>147878770
Deep or Fire then?

>>147878725
Dark if you don't use Fire Clutch ring and are a PvP fag. Chaos if you're using a clutch ring or are a PvE fag.

>>147878791
How did you fight him? He was usually under 160 and always quit matchmaking if it took more than 10 seconds.

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>>147878518
Please respond.

>>147878872
Huh? The Dark infusion of course silly

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>>147878509
>Which Soulsborne game has the best co-op
Bloodborne and DS3.
Especially Bloodborne because there's always people in chalices even if you're overleveled as fuck

What's the best raw dagger to riposte?

I'm SL101, where is a good spot to sit in DaS3 to get summoned as a Blue Sentinel or Darkmoon?

>>147879081
Mail Breaker

>>147879081
Mail Breaker.

>>147879081
Letter Opener

omg host summon me you nigger i know there's not 5 people in there

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>>147878663

>>147879116
Anywhere. You can be summoned to anywhere from anywhere.

>>147879274
cool, now to farm for the covenant rank up items.

>>147879186
Wew, sorry lad I was pooping


GET IN ON THIS FC YOU FAGGOTS

fucksticks have been bitching for an FC for like a week straight and when there is one, there's only like 4 regular people

literally worst fc

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Full on Autism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViI3Kt0itos

>>147879427
because its in meme place

>>147878932
It was before they introduced SL matchmaking on arena.
He just did his usual spinny shit, took out dark murakumo and started crying when it did like 20 chip damage through my havel shield, tried to guard break me and failed as well. I was doing gestures all the time while he was spinning on a spot in frustration. Took like half of his HP and he fucking pulled the plug.
Wonder if there's some twitch stream archive anywhere because i really wanted to see that shit again.

>>147879481
>wormwater fight club
>not the best fucking dueling arena in not only all of soulsbourne games, but of all video gaming

>>147879573
>let's play chase the caster around for 30 minutes

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>>147878663
>>147879218

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What's the farron watchdog auto invasion meta?
What weapon upgrade level should I keep?

>>147879667
>he only wants to fight meleefags

>>147879778
20, +2

>>147879427
Because it's the same 4 faggots spouting FC WHEN all the goddamn time.

>>147879969
wow i didn't even think of that

I am an ashamed host

some pls come play in my fc ;-;

>>147879860
>magic is viable i swear!
>just give me 30 miles and a few free hits first, also please let me drink my blue raspberry

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>>147880136
Soul Dark and Flashsword are viable.

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>"Demon Ruins" is not what's left of Izalith
>It's the part of the Catacombs to which Demons immigrated, because Lost Izalith cooled down because of the BoC dying.
>This is why the Skellies attack the Axe Demon.
>The Demons probably moved the Fair Lady to that place.
>Now they are pilling their dead all over the place

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>FC
>its a magic fag who has no melee weapon just runs away episode

they're easy enough to kill but i think im going to start just strafing around them as they waste all their mana.

i want them to feel helpless, i want them to know how bad they really are.

>>147880315
that's some fucking horrible damage

>fatrolling stamina reduction
FUCKING WHY HACKAZAKI
ARMOR IS ALREADY USELESS
THE FATROLL IS USELESS
I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE WHAT THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS TO MAKING IT HAVE YET ANOTHER DRAWBACK
I COULD FATROLL MY WAY THROUGH DAS1 AND 2 BUT HERE ITS COOMPLETE FUCKING GARBAGE AGAINST REHASED BB ENEMIES
I'M FUCKING DONE WITH THIS SHIT GAME

im kinda mad they've been nerfing things left and right

i used to rely on a gimmicky warden twinswords build with the bleed buff to fight ganks, and id use a ss to finish them off but it seems like things have slowed down considerably and its a lot harder to do 1v3 fights for me. maybe i havent found something im comfortable with yet.

did they alter the parry windows too? cant seem to land them properly even when set up.

>>147880506
That's at SL55 with 40 Int and +6 staff.

And raw damage isn't important, it's the fact that you can actually hit with it or use it as a pressure tool, unlike slower spells.

>>147880514
lmao just git gud ;_;

How much stamina does it take to be able to perform a UGS WA and still roll afterwards?
I noticed that you can cancel their recovery pretty damn fast with a roll, but if you bottom out your stamina it doesn't start regening to let you roll until the animation is almost done resetting on its own, which takes so much longer that you can be backstabbed.

With 135 stamina (25END + fap2), I have just enough to use the WA on the zweihander and roll out, but not enough to use it on any other UGS. The Zwei seems to take significantly less stamina for its WA than the others but I have no idea how much you'd actually need to be able to use it on the rest of them.

>>147878464
>bleed
No

>getting parried
Well don't do the easy as fuck parry attacks. Do jumping r2s and pressure people into situations where they don't parry

>>147879573
its way too big and becomes painfully boring when a casterfag pops up

>>147880468
Entire history of demons is really sad. Especially given that Lorian killed demon prince, probably a descendant of old demon king and last hope of demonkind. They already had primitive culture and their own king. They worked as gatekeepers. They probably could become civilized at some point but nope, lets just murder their remnants for shits and giggles.

>>147880638
152 stamina for most weapons, 170 stamina for the FUGS, and other weapons weighing more than 22 units

>>147880730
Holy fuck. How much END do you need to hit 152?

>>147880638
FUGS at 40 END+fap2 is capable of WA+attack

i love how carthus curved sword outranges, outdamages, and outspeeds every axe

great game balance

>>147880789
32 End + Ring of Favor will get you to 152
40 End + Ring of Favor 2 gets you to 176

>>147880923
Que Que

>>147880923
But axes are better at breaking poise.

Oh wait...

>>147881074
Good to know.

ENB came out with an anti-Brexit video, the nu-male cuck.

>>147880923
Axes have higher modifiers. They have lower overall AR because they gain more damage per point of AR than curved swords.
66 strength takes fewer points than 40/40 and will cause the manserpent hatchet to break 470 AR, surpassing the carthus sword.

>>147880713
I still find it weird why Stray Demon is working as the Gatekeeper. It also shows how the soul of a decrepit burned out demon produces a pyromancy that is basically the cooled down version of the lava-like chaos pyromancies.

Is Lothric supposed to be very reminiscent of Lordran, or was just that lazy design?

>>147879274
He probably means high traffic areas because Darkmoon prioritizes the location they're in

>>147881348
>anti-retard means nu-male

Have fun wanking off with that tanking economy you biscutmunching bongoloids

>>147881641
It is Lordran

>>147881641
Considering that it rose out of no where like Dracula's Castle. I guess it's supposed to be

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>>147878761
All right I threw a build together revolving around this idea and tried to do some math to calculate the actual efficiency of doing something like this.

2 things to note right off the bat:
1. The build is extremely unoptimized, whether that's the weapon used (I think it's pretty good though), the stats, or the most glaring issue, the armor, it could be done better. The armor specficially. I don't know much about armor absorbtion min/maxing in this video game
2. My math could be completely wrong. I pulled the absobrtion calculation off of fextra and I'm not sure if DEF factors into PvP damage beyond. Wha tI'm assuming here is that absorbtion is the percent decrease that a weapon's AR takes, and that the resulting number is the amount of damage you take. this sounds wrong to me, so the actual effectiveness of this build may vary anywhere from a little to majorly.

With all that in mind:
The Lloyd's Shield ring raises your damage absorbtion by 25% when your HP is above 99%. Using the absorbtion calculation found on the fextra page:
newAbs = 100-((100-currentAbs)*0.75)
and factoring in the current absorbtion gained from the build's armor, the final absorbtion when Lloyd's is active is 45.436%
From here I assume that AR turns into damage by being reduced by a percentage equal to aborbtion.
the AR of a refined dark sword at 40/40 1handed is 452. 452 reduced by 45.436% is approximately 246.59493 damage dealt to the player character.

The Sun princess ring heals 2HP/s and a +10 Blessed infused weapon will also heal about that amount. So holding 2 blessed +10 Caesti and having a Sun princess ring equipped will heal 6HP/sec. With this in mind, it'd take approximately 41 seconds to heal back the damage taken from a dark sword R1 and get back to above 99% HP, where Lloyd would be active again.

What this means is that you could trade with flame spear, get a thrust+leo counter hit, then swap right hand to blessed caestus and dodge around like a puss for 41 seconds.

>>147881360
i don't know where you're getting those numbers because a heavy man serpent has only 449 at 66 STR 2h
at 40/40 refined manserpent has 1 less AR than carthus

>>147881857
Warcry

>>147881641
It's the same place.

>>147881927
yeah? pale resin

>>147881856
(cont)
Even if my math is correct, and even if the build is further optimized, it's really not worthwhile. It's even further hurt by the fact that not everyone will solely be using a 40/40 refined dark sword 1h R1 against you, so the 41 second dodge fest could be drastically lengthened. This is all assuming that you don't get hit at all during the passive play segment.

END RESULT: fuckin; shit man why did I do all this

>>147881985
Have you never actually looked at the amount of damage a resin adds? It doesn't even break a player's flat magic defense, giving you a grand total of ~10 damage (the minimum).

>hey lets make dark souls 3 on bloodborne's engine and make every enemy a fast-paced bloodborne enemy, buy give players the clunkyfuck dark souls 1 mechanics to play with

>>147881671
I do because holy fuck it's taking forever

>>147882167
magic defense is the least common and that's not all that much less than warcry
which lasts less than half the duration

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>>147881927
>maintaining a 15 second buff constantly for the duration of an entire fight

im not even that anon, but that's a very impractical ideal senpai

OFFICIAL /dsg/ SMOULDERING LAKE PC FC™ IS CONCLUDED.

you're all a bunch of fickle fun-hating memelords.

If you fags have better suggestions that aren't:

Irithyll Garden
Farron bridge
High Wall of Lothric
Untended Graves


Please suggest them and I will host there later today or tomorrow.

how much vit do you guys normally run

>>147882295
>hating on bridge and graves

Why?

>>147878464
Have you tried the Dragonslayer spear, anon-kun?

>>147882432
base +/- 3

I've made a terrible mistake /dsg/.
My faith build is boring as fuck. Its practical and I think its good, sure, but man. I dont get to use any fun weapons and ds2 is the only game that had fun miracles.

>>147882432
15, 20, and 40.

I run 48 vit on a Greatshield turtle build.

STR/VIT builds have always been viable as fuck because your damage is barely lower than a qualityfags.

>>147882464
It doesn't match my fashion and I don't want to cosplay, plus I can't make a unique fashion to go with it since there isn't a lot of gold colored armor in the game

>>147881692
>being a globalist faggot
>spewing this bullshit CRASHING ECONOMY meme

>>147882757
Dude come on, the DSS is arguably the best spear in-game with the longest reach,, lowest stamina consumption, and most effective moveset relative to its damage.

>>147882853
Stay delusional

>>147882432
on my real build
23

on my 120 superman build
40

>>147882962
I remember checking it and I'm pretty sure its stamina consumption 2Hed was worse than 2Hed LKLS stamina consumption.

But yeah fine I'll try it out. Not before I make a retarded build using Shield of Thorns + Carthus'd Greatlance first, though

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Just beat Duke's Dear Freja. After that shit show, I now understand why Dark Souls 2 is bad. There is a room down there. The room has a sink hole. When you enter the room, two mages shoot mage spunk at you as 5 spiders crawl in as basilisks rise out of the ground as it summons in an NPC invader.

Then there's the boss itself. Unless you are a solid wall with a bulked shield of the nature I have yet to find, I see no way to easily solo that. Magery doesn't work because you need to be staring it right in the face while dealing with its adds and its face flying at you ever second.

Dark Souls 2 has some interesting ideas, but there's no finesse. When you beat Freja and you realize there's a dragon hanging overhead, you wouldn't know that was supposed to be Seath unless you had read up and taken the hint. Certainly doesn't fucking look like him. And then Tark tells you Freja was literally Seath reincarnated.

And then you have the dark NPC dudes who aren't interesting characters and don't seem to really hold any prominence. They don't establish themselves or do anything important. Dude sits in a medieval teleporting wheelchair.

>>147883229
The dragon there isn't Seath.

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there is no better weapon in the game

First time through Dark Souls after picking it up on release, hating it, and never touching it again until the recent steam sale

Still don't like it as much as Demon's, but what's with the invasion spots? I've only been invaded twice but once it was in Blighttown where the guy had no poison cures and had to leave and the other was in Sens where he killed himself while I was fighting titanite demons down in the mud.

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>>147883370
You fight Freja under the dragon. On NG+ Freja drops the Old Paledrake Soul. It's Seath.

anyone on PC got a leftover milk ring and CCS?

>>147882432
Normally 15 since every character starts as Knight, except one with 38

Is Chaos Blade the only good pure dex weapon?

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/54098

>>147883579
I wouldn't want to incentivate cancer.

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>>147883553
I mean, shit. The Brightstone Cove is the covered-over Crystal Forest. That white chunky shit they're mining is the crystal from Seath's mess.

>>147882295
For a smaller arena, I think Undead settlement by the firebombers could work well, but smouldering is already pretty good. If you are ruling out all those options, there are really not any other places for FC's to be hosted, maybe gank squad location in grand archives?

>>147883441
you're pretty good at using them
are you stacking hp regen?

>>147883718
I actually planned this build out before it became a FOTM weapon, just hadn't gotten around to doing it yet

>>147883721
>that Santier's
Anon...

>>147883553
>I just played DaS2, now I'm a lore expert
Keep playing the game, you'll understand a little later.

>>147882432
I guess that means im goin to ng+1 as a knight since i can reroll my quality as a faith one without wasting much stats.

>>147883785
hes running cancer vitality stack with best defense:weight armor with cancer priestess ring and offhand bless caestus

>>147883229
>no way to solo that
>bunch of enemies
>implying the enemies aren't easy as fuck, the spiders don't ignore you and the boss ia hard

The game doesn't tell you what dragon is that because no Souls game is ever extremely explicit. You can also enter it's memory later on, and it's not Seath who's there, but the Ancient Dragon. Or at least his soul is there.

Are Onikiri and Liberachi at risk of being nerfed any time soon?

>>147883785
yah

i get a whopping 6/tic with blessed wep active.

>>147883906
Hey, it deals strike damage, and that wrecks everything in DaS2. Can't blame him.

Don't tell him.

>>147883976
havels helm is actually better for PHYS DEF but with it i cant have an offhand BKH, too heavy.

>>147884134
Nope.

You can bet Warden twinblades will be nerfed AGAIN though.

>>147884001
>and it's not Seath who's there, but the Ancient Dragon
I wouldn't be surprised if they forgot what they were trying to do midway through developing that game. That seems to be a running thing.

>>147878464
>He doesn't use Partizan.

>tfw they will never buff Brigand Twindaggers

>>147884305
Except it's very clear that it's the Ancient Dragon's corpse in the memory, and not Seath. Besides, who said the souls you get in NG+ mean these characters were in the game? Maybe only part of their power was used for some reason.
Dark Souls lore is as convoluted as time, so there's no point in taking it seriously.

>>147884302
But why?? they're shit already!

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>>147883976
ive been perfecting my castus shrecker since before the buff, tirelessly perfecting stat distribution and weapon/armour combinations with no ones help but my own.

show some respect you ecleb following, wiki peaking gaylord.

>>147884519
They already did

>>147884575
It's just his theory, not a forgone conclusion

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When are they gonna buff the Longsword?

It
-costs too much stamina to swing 10 times
-shit range compare to the Dark Sword
-deals too little damage per hit
-no hyper armor every swing
-weapon art is too slow, sometimes missing entirely

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>>147883553
The petrified dragon in Freja's arena is not Seath.

>>147884134
If they were to nerf it, they'd remove the weapon art hyperarmor. The same would probably happen to the regular Claw.

>Hidetaka "I swear its for PvE" Miyazai
>99STR/99DEX

>DSGA - 787 unbuffable
>BKGA - 746 built in buff +20% damage to demons
>BKGS - 709 20% damage to demons
>Propaned GS - 709 built in buff
>Yhorm - 707 doesn't need DEX+ built in buff
>
>
>FUME ULTRAGREATSWORD 25 FUCKING UNITS - A WHOOPING 664 (apply resin here)

>>147884134
pretty sure they were just buffed, so no.

>>147884832
Patch 3.87

>>147885060
FUGS has an enormous damage multiplier on all of its moves, as well as a high counter hit multiplier.

It's still very good, anon. You do not want to get hit with it.

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I love this outfit.

>>147885252
Onion helm is min/maxing, you ugly faggot.

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I think my build turned out pretty good, desu

>>147885210
I'm gonna need to see some proof

>>147885252
If only you had an actual weapon

>>147884640
Like, in the latest patch? Did i miss something?

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>>147885252
>samurai
>using a shield
Fear brings only dishonor

I am my blade for I have no name
Should my blade break I to must break with it
For even a broken sword may inflict grievous wounds

>>147885330
Omedetou

>>147884680
Don't give the sorry fool false hope, anon.

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>>147885330
Haven't touched PVP yet, but some random summon I got for Pontiff liked it.

In DaSII, my bonfire teleport menu just suddenly started showing all of these greyed out places with ???? all over them

What are these here for?

ok so i darksword stunned me while i was in perseverance. fucking cool

>>147885392
The first patch post-pc release buffed all daggers by like 5 AR

>>147885520
Perseverance enables your poise for a few seconds.

Your poise can still be broken if you've taken enough poise damage prior to activating perseverance.

>>147885505
When you speak with the Queen for the first time (or just pass her, whichever) she reveals all the remaining bonfire locations in the game. Those ??? are bonfires that you haven't lit yet.

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>>147885484
Next up is Super Cyan Bluper

>>147885420
I never use it, it's just to be able to have a weapon art secondary and some health regen to mitigate the 15 damage a hit with Chaos Blade. Two handing Chaos Blade is pointless, and it looks really dumb in my opinion.

>>147885452
Arigatou

>>147885642
>Two handing Chaos Blade is pointless
All of its attacks are faster and deal more damage 2H.

>>147885363
I'm thinking about getting a +5 Bloodlust because then I can commit sudoku like a good samurai.

>>147885210
Just went and tested at cleansing chapel hollows NG++ (so split damage theoretically should do less)

>FUGS - 698
>Yhorm - 774 (not using war cry)
>DSGA - 702

All +5, 2-handed and I have 66 STR

>>147885642

i know what you mean
hopefully the DLC has some stuff built for offhands like a dagger that lets you use your weapon art

>playing das1
>get to sens fortress
>my weapon literally does less than 20% of its AR to the snakes

JUST

>>147885632
Oh. Neat.

Also, is there any way to disable manual greatweapon aiming?

It's so hard to use this UGS I'm using, and I went out of my way to upgrade it to +10 before I started using it. Will I have to just get good, or should I just forget trying to use UGS in PvE?

>>147885803
It gains a single point in AR. I didn't know it was faster though. Maybe I'll try it a bit, but I like one handing.

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>>147885945
Drakesword detected

>>147883229
1) Those mages should be shooting at you long before you make it to the sinkhole, deal with them from afar or just roll.

2) That NPC phantom dual wields crossbows or some shit, he's a joke to beat.

3) If you're going to complain about that area, complain about the fucking genious design decision to place a boss soul vendor inside a very small room that all 5 of those spiders can follow you into. Oh, and the door is a piece of cardboard that 1 soul arrow from the mages can destroy.

4) Easy as fuck boss, mindless to solo. All of its attacks are slow and telegraphed. You can knock off a head if you hit it enough.

If you insist on mage run, then maybe if you payed attention to all those dark, spider infested areas with sconces to light you'd realize that the small spiders won't approach you if you have a torch out.

5) That isn't Seathe, Seathe is dead. It's just some fan fiction dragon carrying a fragment of his soul. The spider is shown to have broken out of a cage the Duke kept her in, then got fat as fuck eating everything including that dragon.

Either Tarkus is a retard, or it's just a product of the absolute shit show at dev department of DS2.

>>147885557
oh...
W-well they're fun at least...

so i understand most people accept the meta to be at least 120. does that mean i can invade anywhere at that level? Id like to catch people playing through their games

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>you have the ability to sheathe your weapon in das2

literally the most-needed feature in DaS3.

>>147885945
thats the first major spike in difficulty
Time to upgrade, Anon

>>147886662
It's the same in DS3.

>>147886662
you do? how?

>>147886751
You can't 2h your empty fists, anon.

I guess you could run around with a pair of caestus.

>>147884842
Okay then. Guess 2. Seath's soul possessed the Duke of Tseldora and he had the Crystal Forest excavated. He jumped bodies to Freja when the Duke's body deteriorated from his possession, with the ultimate plan being to usurp control of the body of the imprisoned dragon.

>>147886662
hold twohand button.

>>147886662
I wish this sword had the Warcry WA in DaS3. It'd fit the source material reference fucking perfectly, being able to flail it around like a madman.

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>>147886859
>being so beta so have to hold your own hand

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How do I get it?

>>147886662
Dark Souls 2 had hundreds of good features that were left out

>>147887093
Quit game and reload

>>147887093
Log out.

It will be on the floor again.

>>147886662
>>147887121
>twohanding your fist is a feature
jeezus.

>>147887610
can't do it in 3

also can't powerstance
or 2h parry

instead we have weapon arts where they all do the same shit, and 90% of them are useless

Going into NG+2 soon, any missables besides slabs I should get more of?

>>147887965
All the crow shit

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T R A N N Y

C O F F I N

is fc still going

>>147887810
I find a lot of the weapon arts to be useful.

>>147888410
name 16

>>147888492
That's quite a specific number. Care to explain why that number in particular?

Not him by the way so no bully

i have not played in about two weeks. just how bad was the obscuring ring nerf? i had a dagger assassin build really focused around that ring. is it still good? and the hornet ring nerf? how big was that?

>>147888669
meme dip

>>147888370
I'll start it up again if I get more than the same 3 people:

Huntsman Andy, Natalya, and another anon whose name I forgot that was really good with Hexes.