/edg/ Elite: Dangerous General

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>>147546189
anon please
let it go

>10 pages
>15 threads per page
>150 games
You telling me Elite cant compete to be top 150 on vg?
I don't want this thread to die ;_;
where will I shitpost during long and boring grind?

Did they state when tourism mode is coming out?

Ded on arrival

>>147548421

I guess even discussing Elite is a boring grind.

>>147559505
/thread

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>>147559505
The boring grind worthwhile in life is the one I do inside your mom's asshole.

SPESS

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reminder

>in space no one can hear you yawn

>>147546189
is this thing comfortable to play with keyboard and mouse only?

>>147567409

comfortable enough

scale of comfy:

xbox controller > keyboard > HOTAS

efficiency:

HOTAS > xbox controller > keyboard

lying down on the bed or slumped on the couch is comfy as fuck when you're just exploring or going from a to b

a wired 360 controller is dirt cheap nowadays anyway

>>147567578
How is it not comfy with HOTAS?
I don't have one but just wondering, this game seems perfect to play with that and VR.

>>147567578
cool, I have a xbox controller tho, the thing is that I see a lot of people commenting on how good it is with hotas, but I'm into stuff like that, also they are pretty expensive in my country

>>147567913
HOTAS is pretty much a necessity if you're playing with VR, but as a long time user of M+KB, HOTAS is just a meme controller otherwise

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You fags gonna watch Mission: Jupiter?

>>147568943
What is it?

>>147568216
>hotas is a meme
KB+M cannot compare ergonomically, which typically ends up being the deciding factor in a control interface rather than interface accuracy.

>>147567913
>How is it not comfy with HOTAS?

sittting upright close to your desk grabbing a penis with one hand and fiddling with knobs and levers with your other hand

would be better with VR, but eh. we might have different definitions of comfy. i guess you're more on the "comfy immersion" page and i'm more on the "comfy position/seating" page

>>147568203

like i mentioned, a HOTAS will be more effective than an xbox controller once you master it. much more effective, even. still, the controller does its job, and you can map a surprising amount of ship functions to it just using single button presses. if you're willing to go for combination presses you won't need your keyboard at all.

>>147569736

It's on the Science Channel and is about the Juno probe that got to Jupiter today.

>>147569904
Idk man, I can reach all my keybinds just fine. Plus, the mouse is more accurate for fixed weapons. HOTAS is cool for muh immersion, but, having played both ways, it's definitely not better, just different, and a lot more expensive

Fucking cock, I was writing to that older thread when it was still up and lost everything to "Thread archived".

>>147548421
Everyone is too busy traversing the length of the Universe.

>>147568216
It's funny but looking up x52 used, there are quite a few people willing to part it with descriptions like "it was a gift", "bought it for <flight sim>, played for two evening", "collecting dust on a shelf" selling in about half of full price.

Spess??

>>147570371

I think a lot of people buy stuff like flight or space sims and equipment like HOTAS without even knowing whether or not they'll like the game, or if they do, play it often enough to justify spending time setting up their gear.

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>>147573089

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>>147574847
>playing in open

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Can someone explain this kind of dadthink to me?

Why the fuck do they not want basic social tools expected of every MMO to be implemented?

>>147578138

Forget the dads (davidbrabrenshittingintodadmouththankyoumaster.jpg)

The real question is, why doesn't FD attempt to improve anything about the multiplayer aspect of the game?

>>147579168
That is the biggest question. If they would stop putting out shitty, half-assed, grindy bullshit and focus instead on making this a great MMO, this game could be 'uge. Instead we get a new layer of grind on top of the old grind, forcing you into specific, unfun aspects of gameplay.

I'm turning off my life support until we get AT LEAST player group support.

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bois

Ok, got a billion from Sothis runs (thank you, level 4 friendship drive on my Cutter) in 5 days. Now to play games until moar ships come out.

>>147579865

What's your loadout?

>>147579865
Dang, that's mighty rich!

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>>147580724
stripped up lean-belly single-jump trader, armed to the teeth with multicannons.

only an a6 shield detracts from the cargo space, amounting to 728 units. couple of point defense units mounted to get the exact range necessary at the expense of boosters.

goes a long way in deep empire. good bit of money to be made with the economic alterations in mind. tycoon isn't taking very long in the grans scheme of things. all just honest trading and I have a fer-de-lance shacked up in shinrarta dezhra for killing.

i want to afford a fuckfitted anaconda and go crazy exploration modo with a jacked fsd

Is there a way to transfer spacebux between players? For example, how do dads put bounties on commandos? Do they pay in virtual dadbux? Do they say "We're both dads, we're on the same boat. Fly safe, dadmando o7" and that's it?

>>147581134

I'm shit at combat. Can't kill people even in my pimped out Corvette.

Tried exploration and wasn't my thing. I did that trip to Bagle point and back.

>>147581381

You buy slaves and dump them for others to sell. Veeeeery tedious. I used to do that for scrubs, but I don't think there are many new players anymore.

I think ED has one more season and then kaput. Maybe SC will be out by then *snigger*.

>>147582231
You're probably overthinking combat. Full multicannon anaconda is providing the easiest fights I've ever had.

THIS GAME IS SHIT! SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

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>>147574847

>>147578138
They're terrified that guilds will turn the game into eve. Eve touched them in their no-no places.

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Hello, commandos!

For the last few minutes I'm stuck traversing the witchspace. Taking high-resolution screenshots, picking and editing them and writing this message in comfort. It's a very special experience and so far no Thargoids nor anybody else has pulled me out of the hyperjump.

On a side note, I attempted to dadlify my HUD without sacrificing enemy on radar contrast. It needs more tweaking to make them yellower. BECAUSE PISS ON THEM! Friendos are blue and it's O'K.

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FORBIDDEN EXPERIENCE

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Alas, my trip is over, the game disconnected me "unable to connect to matchmaking servers" and required a restart. On return, I wasn't that much far from the star I left.

Does anyone honestly get enjoyment out of playing this game? Like, there are so many more games you could potentially be playing that's more stimulating or relaxing without the crappy annoyances that this game has.

>>147589008
Yes, I could even be masturbating, but I'm not. I'm playing Elite:Dangerous.

>>147588098
None of them have ever played Eve, they've only heard about it.

>>147589105
That's a clever one chum, but you didn't answer the question.

>>147589008
What's more relaxing? In your opinion, I mean, I could really use some help.
Don't say Subnautica

>>147589404
Personally, I think any of the 4X games popular right now is really nice for unwinding after work. Even conflict unfolds at your pace instead of the "oh shit" moments that you experience in ED.

If strategy is not your thing, I'd try something a little more hokey like Stardew Valley. Farming (literally), exploring, socializing with the town. Even get married, but without the perils of real women.

>>147590209
Not him but i don't like strategy that much for space sims, and i personally hate Stardew Valley, i'd rather just open up Space Engine or keep playing Elite or Arma or WF.

>>147590891
I don't think shooters are all that relaxing but to each their own. Especially when you mix in multiplayer and the pubies who just learned to swear.

>>147589404

I find EVE trade/industry to be strangely relaxing and comfy, but that's just me. I don't know why, but I find it relaxing to be part of the cog in the machine and know that I'm helping supply other players with shit they need. It's so nice to sit with a cup of coffee and calmly do some research on the market to see what I should trade next or what blueprints I should produce and research.

>>147590209
Ooh I haven't played a strategy game in a coon's age, that sounds like a good idea, thanks.

ED kind of grinds my gears because it doesn't have the social aspect that I always wished Elite/Oolite had, and it could and I thought was supposed to.

>>147590891
Yeah I saw that game on the sale but didn't click on it ever, the hokey art style really turned me off. If WF = grindfarm stay fast bro

>>147591156
Have to agree with you on this one, unless it's a private/friends only instance/server kind of thing. I've had some really relaxing times with /gtag/ for instance.

>>147591547
That sounds perfect but I'd be going in knowing nothing about the game/economy. EVE is something I've always been interested in but never gave a chance, for various reasons.

>>147592174
I would stay away from EVE unless you have a massive amount of time to invest in it. It's pretty much a second job.

>>147592390
Yeah, that is a concern. I do have four days free a week, but have come to the realization that I don't want anything that feels like a second job. Black Desert is a great example of that, beautiful game but I barely played it 8 weeks before giving up.

>>147592174

>That sounds perfect but I'd be going in knowing nothing about the game/economy

You don't really need any knowledge going in, you can learn all you need, but a basic/intermediate understanding of economics is a plus. I didn't know jack shit about anything going in, I just knew that trading sounded neat, and I've actually learned quite a bit about economics just by playing EVE and researching related topics whenever I had some free time and felt like doing some reading.

As this anon >>147592390 said though, EVE is a hard game to play unless you have a fuckton of time to put into it. I have a full time job and play it, but it is practically the only game I play any more, but it's got me hooked and I've been playing it pretty religiously for some time now. I have actually fiddled with it and played Elite with EVE running in the background, alt tabbing between the two to check my market orders on EVE, and it worked great.

>>147592992
The main thing that keeps me away from it is the sub fee, I know I'd never truly relax because I'd be obsessed with "getting my money's worth"
Economics has always been an interest though, playing the market is usually my end game in online games.

>>147593636

I can understand that. I personally feel like I do, I enjoy my time playing the game. Also, you can pay with your sub with PLEX that you can buy with ingame money, which you can easily do once you get into trading. If you're looking for economic gameplay, I really don't think there's a game that can beat EVE, and if there is I'd love to know.

>>147565154
>orca
>multipurpose
>not a ship for murderous dickbags

>hauler
>not exploration

>>147592390
>>147592747
Eh you only need to put as much time into eve as you want to feel you're getting value out of your $15.

At the start I played constantly just for the sake of playing, it was a huge new universe to explore.

After years of playing, and taking part in every single aspect of the game I only logged on for a few hours a week to do some nulsec exploration for fun, and sold every ship I owned except for my covops and prowler.

sup guys.

How do I into mining? I need some Osmium for Engeniggers and I would like to try it out. I have ASPe avaliable ( I dont want to strip down my conda.

>>147596990

>prowler

My nigga. I'll stop now since this isn't /dog/.

>>147597006
Equip your shit with:
>Mining laser
>Refinery
>Collector drones
>Cargo racks
Bonus:
>Prospector drones

Then go into an asteroid belt or RES or I don't fucking care where, but somewhere that has asteroids to point your twinklers at.
Collect the minerals.
Lose your will to live.

>>147597006
Mining lasers, cargo racks, processing plant, limpet controller, probe launcher, and a fair amount of limpets.
Find a pristine metallic ring, probe rocks, shoot rocks, collect rocks.

>>147595551
/r/equesting loadout for a murdermachine Orca

>>147597416
This should work out. Torpedoes optional. https://coriolis.io/outfit/orca/2p5tkFflsdlsif42i2i2i----2d2d2d2d2b292727.Iw18SQ==.Aw18SQ==

No one survives from a direct hit from this bad boy.

s p e s s

>>147589008
Yes.
I don't know why, but I find the setting to be nice. SPEEESSSS.
And I like listening to a podcast and doing mindless busywork after a day of work/studying.
Also the combat is satisfying. It's limited enough to be easy and straight forward without requiring you to be a master of movement vectors to rekt NPCs.
It looks really pretty to my eye and sounds amazing.
Am I a dad? Not literally. I'm fucking 22, but I understand the dad mentality in that sense. HOWEVER, I do acknowledge this game is a load of wasted potential and there's a ton of issues that when fixed would make this game nigh on perfect. But whatever. Life is miserable anyways.

>>147588427
Why is it so dark? What's going on here?
Why is your radar disk close on the front but the actual hud is obscured by something and far away?

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>>147601094
It's what happens when you take a high-resolution screenshot in witchspace.

This one should clear things up, it's my icourier's toilet seat, but the radar is camera-bound for some reason.

>>147602210
So this is the power of the vision

>>147602210
Wow. I truly wonder what kind of shit they employ to take screenshots when it can fuck up like that.

Not that I'm complaining or wanting this fixed over something else. Just.. ugh.. surprised.

>>147546189
danger!

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Undadded my scheme a bit more, poured more piss in it. Green might a bit too yellowish, but as you can see on heat icon, critical AOA and descent speed indicators, warning "red" stands out.

Portraits on a mission board look super scary though.

>>147546189
Dead

>>147569904
and mouse isn't even as accurate as joystick as we have established multiple times before

>>147570170
>a lot more expensive
Nigga you can get a hotas for like $30.

ITT: Dads trying to find excuses for the buyer's remorse after they wasted money on useless $200 dildos

>>147610917
Fun story
I tried flying with mouse just for the hell of it.
I couldnt figure out how to fit my conda theough the mail slot. If I tried to roll I'd yaw and if I tried to yaw I'd roll. Switch back to joystick and I breeze through it at full speed no problem.

>>147610902
It's good we have you resuscitating this thread.

>>147568216
Ughh... I've been playing flying games with a HOTAS for the past 6 years and couldn't even imagine using KB+M. I have zero experience from gamepads, but their lack of buttons bothers me.

Sometime I bought Elite Dangerous, but never got to playing it, because... Well, reasons. Im installing it now. I don't feel like purchasing horisons, will it gimp me in any way?

>>147615119
Enjoy your honeymoon phase. The game is really good the first hours. Seriously. Enjoy it.

>>147615180
Will she turn into a tyranic bitch and get fat right after the honeymoon?

>>147615312
No. You realise she's dead and you are fucking a corpse.

Horizons will lengthen your honeymoon phase by 15-25%

>>147615312
>and get fat right after

Not if she values her longevity

>>147615356
rofl

I don't know why but I really enjoy this game.... help?

>>147616297
So am I. Just embrace the warm clutches of the Vision.

>>147616297

H O N E Y M O O N

>take salvage mission
>go to target system
>honk
>mission updated: go there
>go there
>drop
>nothing
>not even a clue

are salvage missions bugged or what

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>tfw you submit a well-written and detailed bug report complete with pictures and the support crew tells you you did a good job and that your report would help them

>>147620139

They can be unstable, and have been since Horizons launched. Accept at own risk.

>>147570371
That's because the X52 is a chintzy piece of shit. Feels like it's worth about $40

>>147589008
It's the only game currently available where you can hands-on fly a space ship in a massive open world. Well, I guess there's Evochron Legacy, also, but this game is much better looking and more people play it.

>>147622740
son, you just got VISION'D

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>>147622740
"I don't see the problem, here, commando."

>>147610917
>Being able to immediately and directly point at exactly what you want
>Pushing, pulling, and twisting a stick until you get approximately where you want based on muscle memory alone

>>147611376
Fun story
I tried flying with HOTAS just for the hell of it.
I couldnt figure out how to fit my conda theough the mail slot. If I tried to roll I'd yaw, and if I tried to yaw I'd roll. Switch back to mouse and keyboard and I breeze through it at full speed no problem.

>>147611258
>truth

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>>147579865
I'm a big Core Dynamics fanboi but I can't argue with dat ass.

>>147611258
You don't like spending your money on things that give you pleasure? Does life have to be miserable?
Hell, I just shilled out for an Oculus just because I could. It's great. It's 'useless' in the sense that it will never profit me money, but using it is great fun.

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You have to do 5k ly distance from starting system for professor palins grade 5 thrusters

>>147625761
Yeah that's fucking stupid. Everything in this game is shallow and repetitive, but Exploration is the worst offender by far. I'm only Pathfinder in it, and that's just from random scans of systems as I traveled around the bubble and "discovering" elements on planet surfaces.

Luckily I already had a grade 5 class 7 FSD from my Corvette, so I just stuck that into a Conda and immediately had ~50ly jump range. I just picked a random direction and jumped until I had gone over 5k. Whole thing took a few hours at most.

>>147611376
If you leave roll bound to your mouse you're an idiot, and FD are idiots for making it the default. The only thing kb+m doesn't do as well as hotas is FA-off, and if FD gave us a toggle for relative mouse axis it would lose that disadvantage.

Iv been away since just before Horizons was released.


Do I rejoin in the Vision or remain clear or timesinks?

New weapon mechanics sound/look....

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>>147626023

im doing it now. entering witch head nebula. actually spess is getting more beautyful now. going witch head, barnards loop then rosette nebula should be 5k LY.

>>147626689
I like roll on mouse. Pitch and roll are the two primary vectors of motion, so it makes sense to me to have them both in a place where you have fine-grained control.

Yaw is important for only two things:
>Putting some English on your turns, in which you would just be holding it down anyway
>Fine-tuning your aim, which can easily be achieved by fluttering the yaw keys

I've played with it set up as default for so long that when I've tried swapping them around, the game felt goofy and unplayable. I'm sure I could get used to it the other way, but I'm already really good at playing this way, so I just don't see the point.

>>147626693
You got away. That's an achievement. If Elite had Steam achievements they would be things like

>Smart man: hasn't played this shitty game for a month.
>Smarter man: hasn't played this shitty game for 6 months
>Smartest man: hasn't purchased this shitty game

What's a good way to get money ?
I don't really like the trading system, and prefer doing bounties, occasionally I do a mission or two.
And does the system matter or is it the same everywhere ?

>>147629746
There's a couple good ways. You can do it the "honest" way, by running missions, regular trading, grinding combat in RES/CZ, etc.

If you do it this way, then it does matter which system you're in. The more allied you are with the minor factions in a system, the better paying the missions they provide. Also, the state of the system is important. For instance, a system at war will have CZs and missions to fight in them, while a system in Boom will have a higher volume of trade ships and trade missions.

>or

You can do it the easy way, by flying out to Sothis, grinding rep with the local factions by taking data delivery missions to nearby Ceos until you're at least friendly with everyone, and then spamming the multi-million credit delivery missions back to the bubble over and over until you have more credits than you know what to do with.

You can also exploit Powerplay. Join one of the powers that expands with combat, and go afk turret in their expansion CZs. There's a bug right now where the enemies in PP expansion CZs don't fight back, so you can literally just park your ship there with all turrets set to fire at will, then come back in a few hours and turn in your pile of merits for an EZ 50 million credits.

>>147620102
Nope. Been playing for 2 years.
Don't know why or what it is that keeps me coming back. Stockholm syndrome?

>>147620139
Dropped prematurely? Flew too fast and overshot it and lost alignment?

>>147625761
On the bright side some Engies like Farseer love it when you sell that exploration data at their system. But logically you'd upgrade your FSD to 5 before fucking off to 5000 ly since turbodads probably explored it all already.

>>147626023
How did you swap it? Sell it with one ship, bought back with another?

>>147626693
Follow the V I S I O N.

>>147628997
You say "smartest man" and then describe unaware and ignorant person.

>>147631085
>Don't know why or what it is that keeps me coming back. Stockholm syndrome?
Autism.

>>147631397
I'm not a moron. I dropped where I meant to drop, that is where the mission was supposed to happen. All that was there were random canisters but nothing for the mission

>>147631491
Nope..

>>147631798
Senility then.

>>147631397
>Sell it with one ship, bought back with another?
Yes

>>147627946
Well, good on you for soldiering on with that shitty scheme. Pitch and yaw is much more intuitive when bound to the mouse than pitch and roll, and fluttering yaw keys can only ever be inferior for fine tuning aim.

>>147631912
Bit young for that.
I'm genuinely intrigued why I keep playing this piece of shit slot machine.
I love it.

>>147632570
See, I've been playing with it this way for so long that any other way has become less intuitive. With pitch/roll on the mouse, you almost never need to tune your aim anyway, and just a tap on yaw is usually more than enough if you need to adjust. I used to PvP a lot when Lave was the place to be, and I was very, very good.

Anybody play this on a vive or cv1 yet? I'm thinking of getting one.

>>147634093
Cv1 here. I can't explain. It's so fucking amazing.
I got my Rift just for this and DCS.

Does anyone play Evochron Legacy? Even though the graphics are worse it looks like a more fleshed out E:D in terms of gameplay. Whatchu gay nerds think?

>>147634258
Excellent. Thanks anon.
What's the pixelization of distant ships/stations like? I had a dk2 and that was amazing but the legibility of the text etc was too much for me.

>>147634943
The pixels are still visible. Not as prominently as before, but if you pay attention you notice it. All text, however, is readable. The quality is high enough that you forget the flaws.

And everything except the galaxy map works fine with VR. For that you want to have proper binds in your controls.

I wholeheartedly recommend it, I've always longed for the feeling that I now get with the Rift. It actually feels like you are in your cockpit. Overall the Rift headphones are also a decent piece of kit if you don't have special headphones or are using the speakers.

>>147634093
Just get one of thems gooble cardboard things, but not actual cardboard, but plastic with a bit of foam where your face touches it. And a rubberband.

>>147615180
I'm 60 hours in and still having a good time. If ED was a bit more like EVE I think it'd be perfect (for me). I've seen other players, but the world does feel a bit dead. More like a single player game than an MMO, but I'm still liking it.

My Cobra is starting to get pretty good too.

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I begin to understand the mining Zen.

>>147636141
Love your bobbleheads.
I bought the set on day one.
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>>147635849
Elite is not EVE. If you want to play EVE, play EVE. Asking for basic multiplayer tools is nothing more than millenial entitlement, even though it would have literally no impact on my ability to play 2 hours a week in solo. The game is perfect exactly the way it is. We just have to trust in Braben's vision for the game.

Fly safe, CMDRs o7

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why does it make dat sound? thats creepy

>>147635587
Again excellent. Cheers.
What's the visibility of distant ships like now?

>>147639943
If they are really far it's harder to make out, yes. But you know SOMETHING is there. Mostly I just cycle through targets or use the contacts panel anyway so didn't pay that much attention.

>>147640505
Cool. Cheers anon.

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>>147634874
Holy shit I thought I was the only autist here playing it.

It's a pretty nice game especially since it's one dude doing most of the job. It's not as big and nice looking as ED and the scale is clearly no 1:1 but the game is pretty comfy overall and the physics are awesome once you get used to it.
Also the dev is is kind of a bro, listening to the community and keeping adding stuff regularly.

>it looks like a more fleshed out E:D in terms of gameplay.
Well it's still a pretty shallow game (but I guess every sandbox space sim is shallow to a certain extent), but it's way, way less grindy and the possibility to script quests+private servers are a good plus.

Here, have a pic of glitched Pearl I encountered while coming back from a hopeless hidden planet search.

>>147642253
I'm thinking of picking it up. How's the multiplayer? Is there enough of an active community to make it worthwhile?

what's the most efficient way to grind combat rank?

>>147642650
>I'm thinking of picking it up.
Too bad it was 30% off until a few days ago. But it's still worth the full $25 if you are autistic enough about this kind of games.

>How's the multiplayer? Is there enough of an active community to make it worthwhile?
No unfortunately, if you know people on ED you'll have a better chance there.
MP is more or less dead from what I know (and I don't really care since I mostly play alone). There are groups of people playing regularly at given times, but you won't be able to pop anytime and find people logged in.

The saves carry from solo to multiplayer and vice-versa though, the only things that won't carry are shit you store in stations/cities.

tl;dr: If you don't like solo and are looking for active multiplayer don't waste your bucks.

>>147645552
samefag
>>147642650
By the way there is a demo on the dev website: unlimited tutorials and full game with 1h30 time limit you can reset if you reinstall the game. Getting a demo at all, let alone a decent one is so rare these days it's worth mentioning.

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>>147645552
>the only things that won't carry are shit you store in stations/cities
>store in stations/cities

>>147645816
you know, that thing ED lacks

>>147645816
There are hangars in station cities and you can store ships/weapons/materials/whatever fits in your inventory inside.

Since these can be built, destroyed and are either relative to your savefile (solo) or the server (multiplayer), stored items can't be carried.

>>147642253
>Holy shit I thought I was the only autist here playing it

kek I literally just bought it last night because it looks like everything Elite should be. :^)

>>147645551
anyone?

>>147646103
The things I enjoy the most are physics and the actually seamless universe (you can actually fly from one end of the galaxy to another using inertia only; it will take months, you might crash into something, but it's possible to do it).

>>147646602
right now it's cheesing powerplay, there's a bug where PP conflict zone enemies don't fight back, they just sit there

>pledge to a power that expands with combat

>fit your dadship with dad turrets and go to one of their expansion conflict zones

>set your turrets to fire at will

>go do other things for a few days

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>>147646823
i don't really want to change my power and I'm with Felicia eh

>>147647121
then regular CZs are fastest, there's not really another glitch to exploit

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>>147647238
okay, thanks!

Is there a secret tao to get rare surface prospecting mats QUICK?

>>147648956
Not really, but this helps:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LgMaX9n6Yp8DQKq-u-eF1HH2xQ-_aUgSfSJna6mTuLs/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/187DlDf_WOhpXtem686ffvuNAcd8G6W5d7061UNAjslU/

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>>147648956

from ingame, as hard or impossible to find like most things.

>tfw you get attacked by a player in real space without explanation or scan, he just starts shooting
>clearly in it to gank, attacking a courier in an fdl with engineered weapons
>activate macro that kills process

wew lad :^)

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>>147654545

Engeniers is the worst addition fucking ever.
Without engenier upgrades I always feel like I'm flying inferior ship. And I can not be bothered to do rank 5 upgrades for every module, imagine how much time and effort that would take? And then it's not even guaranteed it will be good with all the rng.
The worst fucking feeling, literally kills the game.

>>147650079
>>147652791
Thank you! I kept the spreadsheets from the previous thread, but only now decided to figure them out.

And I completely forgot to check bulletin board at the engineer.

>>147656869

rank 5 are guaranteed upgrades. doesnt take so much time if you know what you are doing.

>>147658665
>unlocking engineers
>getting them to rank 5
>grinding mats, data
>spending rep for wanted side effect
>then getting back to rank 5 again for next upgrade
>do that for every module
if I want fully upgraded ship it will take a shitload of time. And for what, to shot NPC's better? Not worth it. But the feel of inferior ship is still there.
If they would have at the very least given me a good reason to go trough all that trouble

i dont know... played some mmo´s and if i compare it with equiping a character with lets say full t-set its not that much. All of it is doable alone so you are not dependent on other people or a group.

>>147659312

the only things that can have a side effects are weapons, so if u want a specific effect its 2 lvls to trade in per hardpoint.

and btw the only weapon that currently go up to lvl 5 upgrade are multicannons. all other modules are easy to upgrade once.

>>>https://discord.gg/UCUhPsN

calling all autists, weebs, nerds, faggots and neckbeards who call themselves /edg/elords

make space great again

>>147659312
Ah, I think I see your problem, commander. You need to let some of a dad spirit in.

And probably you should look forward to this: https://youtu.be/6e5fs8hMEFw
Unless stupid kids, who only want lying down with 1hk sniper rifles and have everyone else slow and without jump-packs, would also completely ignore the space combat.

>>147661847
B-but the THREAD will die!

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>>147636141
>tfw bought alphabet just to spell "$wag"

i'm better off not thinking about how much money i spent... at least the flight stick is salvageable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdRlu-PYNJA

OH MY GOD, they are going to launch this motherfucking rocket through THE FIRMAMENT in just 2.5 hours!

>>147663894
meant to tag >>147636331

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>getting jewed out of my spess shekels by bugged bulletin boards again

time to call support

Are you guys even going to do those taxi missions? To me it just seems like glorified currier missions in to deep space.

>>147669993

Taxi missions? Have they given any info yet?

>>147620139

I figured it out

You have to fly to the planet/moon that it gives in the update and orbit the object until you hear something along the the lines of "Mission objective available" you should then see a blue USS appear in your contacts

>>147670302
Kind of. Frontier asked people of forum for pics of cool location is space for tourist missions.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/266046-2-2-Your-Input-Needed-Passenger-Tourist-Destinations

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>DadCop is getting absolutely blown the fuck out by half of the other contestant in rise to power
>if EG dads lose the next round they'll join too with their backers

where were you when the biggest group of cryhard faggots on the gulag got point blank anally apocalysed?

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>>147674316
about twenty miles out of achenar, trying to print credits.

>havent played in a month
>you still have to manually select every signal source to see what it is

>>147676453

At least they give you some idea what's in them.

So is there R34 on this game yet?

>>147674316
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHomETco0MI

So when does bulk trading become more profitable than Robigo runs?

>>147685447
how much would you say smuggling would net you, per hour invested?

>>147685854
It takes me about an hour to do a run, and I get around 10-12m a run.

>>147685989
you're doing pretty well for yourself, depending on what you're flying. i went and did a leg of my single jump loop and got interdicted twice for my cargo by an elite fer de lance, and it took me longer than i'd have hoped.

i don't know anymore all that i can see is my trade rank is steadily rising.

Do I need engineer upgrade 1 for level 2 upgrades? Essentially asking can I go level 5 multicannons straight away.

>>147689748

You have to gain rep with them first.

>>147685447
Never

>>147689748
You can apply any grade to any module, as long as you have it unlocked

>>147689748
You can sell exploration data to some engineers to grain rank, but for most you need to craft lower level modules to unlock higher level ones. Craft a few grade 1 modules to unlock grade 2, a few grade 2 to unlock 3 etc. (however once you're at grade 4 then crafting grade 1 upgrades only nets 1-2% progress towards the next so at that point either craft the highest grade mods you can or sell exploration data if you want to unlock 5 asap).

>>147689956
>>147690906
Yeah I have the blaster guy at reputation 5 after turning in some bounties. Was just wondering if I need to gather all the useless shit for the previous rank mods when I just want the rank 5 but thanks for clearing that out guys.

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dude weed lmao

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>>147674316
>DadCop UA bombs the capitals of people who they don't like
>half of the power community is against them now
>they are now bitching and crying to fdev that the game isn't fair

i've never seen the dads turn on each other before, is /edg/ watching this mega meltdown?

>>147693375
I just don't understand. It's like they lack self-awareness completely. They bitch at everyone who even hints that the game isn't perfect as being entitled little millenials who crave useless features B U T they themselves go crying to ftroop immediately when they get fucked for their own actions.

>Die without insurance
>WAAAAA GIMME SHIP BACK

>Out exploran
>WAAA TELEPORT ME TO BUBBLE FOR COMMUNITY GOAL

>Piss off everyone who is capable for thinking for themselves in the community
>WAAAA HELP THEY ARE ALL BULLYING US TOGETHER FOR NO REASON

It pisses me off. It's like they don't see that the description they put on 'us' describes them to a T. Entitled shitheads who don't know how to account for their shitty decisions and incompetence in the game. Jesus fuck I am mad. Mostly because Ftroop validates these retards by catering to them.

>>147693706
I hope this finally exposes the dads for the entitled manchildren they are so nobody gives them credence any more.

>>147693908
A lot of the forumdads don't even play the game anymore or at the very least, log in and sit at a station dock while patrolling the forums like it was a full time job.

Has anyone tried x-rebirth 4.0? I need something to tide me over until NMS comes out. Or 2.2 if that's a flop.

... fuck it, I guess I'll go back to X3:AP.

>>147694080
>X:Rebirth
>Ever
Bro, don't, just don't. It will NEVER be good. They fucked it up so bad from the get go that nothing will bring it even to Elite's level.

Just play x3:AP. At least you know how to play it. And it has decent mods. Despite all of its 'flying in jelly' and autistic factory and corporation management it is still a pretty enjoyable game.

Slap the mod that allows you to play as a Xenon (can't remember the name). Gives an interesting twist.

>>147694393

Yeah, installing now. I don't know what came over me. X-Rebirth. Satan messing with my brain.

>>147693375

Elite Dangerous is probably the weirdest community I've ever seen.
I dont think I've seen a community that was as self-destructive as this one. I bet there will be studies on it when the game dies like there was with Biodrones.

Between the dads that declare the game to be perfect no matter what (it's so odd seeing 45 year old guys doing that, usually teenagers do that shit) and the griefers that run around killing players then genuinely wonder why no one wants to be around them, and the developers that openly endorse the two - I dont know how it lasted this long.

This game has manged to keep a perfect balance of new players coming in and leaving that it looks alive enough when you look at the community hub.
It's also managed to prevent people from refunding it because of the youtube tutorials that take 2 hours to watch.

All of the mistakes in this game cancel each other out somehow. A good update to the game could make it GOTY and a shitty update can kill it dead.
Which is why this general is here. We're watching FD play Jenga and wondering when the tower is gonna fall.

>>147694393
There will be an X4 eventually, and it'll be out before Elite is ever good.

>>147694393
It's actually half decent with all the patches. The highway system is better than elite's FSD.

>>147694503
It's because the dads want the game to be nothing more than Elite. So as far as they're concerned the game is perfect. It doesn't even occur to them that the game can be improved without affecting their enjoyment in the least.

>>147694503
2.1 was a massive blow to the game, it drove away a ton of dads with the new AI, as well as essentially the entire organized PvP community with the artificial grind-wall that is Engineers. The only reason the player numbers are staying relatively stable is the steam sale.

I think we'll see a season 3, but unless there's something really amazing in the next few patches or early on in season 3, I'd be surprised if we saw a season 4. FDev is just too hilariously incompetent to keep it together much longer. It's just been one shitty, buggy update after the next.

>>147694803

Someone needs to see of they can get Elite running on VirtualBox or something and then post it on the forums every time a dad tries to tell people what features this game does and doesnt need.

>actually, THIS is the game YOURE looking for

>>147694503

Can't be fixed at this point. It just needed to be a different game.

Should have been a single player game with some X3 elements and possibly co-op.

Multiplayer ruins everything.

>>147695198
They tried to make it this weird hybrid of single and multiplayer, and ended with a steaming pile of shit for both sides. They needed to focus the game on one or the other, imo.

>>147695275

Yup. My hope is that either they really release the server info when the game dies and the community makes it great again with mods. That or No Man's Sky is good. Or X4 is actually not shit. Or there is an iWar 3 that is not shit... God damn it, I'm going to die with space sim blue balls.

>>147695187

too bad FD nerfed the AI. all they had to do was fix the spawn rates and remove the engi weapons from them.

The Elite-level AI that were in 2.1 didnt even need engi weapons at all. They had perfect power management and were basically aimbots already.

>>147695275

R E M O V E S O L O

In other spess game related news /kspg/ finally died. Wow. Things be looking dim for the genre.

>>147695661

Now did it actually die or did some fag just forget to make a new thread and it'll be back tomorrow?

>>147696015

IDK, never seen it die before even for a day. I suppose we'll see tomorrow.

>>147695507
NMS looks cool, but its focus is on things that I just don't give a fuck about:
>No (proper) multiplayer. At least Elite allows you to wing up, find each other and do SOMETHING together.
>Crafting in the Minecraft/Rust/Starbound/<any modern survival game> realm. Shit I don't want to do: Whack rocks or trees and gather resources. I know Elite has Engineers with material collection. Fuck them.
>Cartoony graphics. It just looks too artsy. Not the biggest gripe.

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To hunt the dads, sometimes you must disguise yourself as one of them.

>>147695661
>>147662565

you were saying

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But what makes Elite so compelling isn’t so much about the game as the experience. It’s the tinkering with and the taking out of a performance car for a Sunday drive, not to rack up more miles, nor to break any speed limits, but to just feel the growl of the engine and the wind comb through what’s left of your hair. To remember those carefree days arched over a BBC Micro or blinking angrily into a Lenslok and to forget for a short while that you have to make 357 people redundant in the morning. Elite is a hermetically-sealed escape capsule and it’s the best there is. Hell, you could fire the game up and just sit there on a launch pad and the sounds are enough to carry you away, so strong is your ship’s presence and so absorbing are the station surroundings.

Taking off, tearing through the station entrance a little too fast and just missing a Python, angling for the next jump, scooping fuel from a blazing sun, spinning the camera around your ship to catch its best profile, starting a fight just for the hell of it, seeing smok rise from the command console, hearing the screen crack and precious oxygen escaping into space and landing back at base with seconds to spare – these are the moments that make Elite essential. Trading, missions, mining – not so much. But it’s ok, we’re not going anywhere.

>>147696447
Don't forget the no-fun-allowed police that will rush in murdering you if you take too much ressources or simply defend yourself against an agressive creature. :^)

What the fuck, am i the only one experiencing this?

I had 10,000 merits
Week passes and i have 5,000
Second week passes and now i have 1,250

It literally says i've been pledged for 2 weeks

Has anyone else been merit visioned?

>>147701773
Merits degrade by 50% every week anon. That's one of the """"""""""""Features""""""""""""" of powerplay

>>147700178
It says something about how devoid of fun a game is when taking off and landing are literally the most fun portions of gameplay.

>>147701981
Ultra dank

>>147701773
>>147701981

And no matter how many merits you have now, in 4 weeks they completely disappear.

>>147700230
wait, for real?

explain

>>147703352
There is nothing to explain, the devs stated multiple times there would be some kind of galactic police that would come after you if commit crimes. They also said crimes included taking too much ressources or using violence against a creature even if it's trying to kill you.

>>147703352
The planets have ancient guardian droids that will attack you if you kill harmless creatures or destroy the land with the terraforming gun or just take too much shit.

He's overstating the danger as long as you're not completely retarded though. And you can disable them by hacking bases.

>>147703352
See >>147703650

Based on the developer's videos that I watched a weird warthog animal attacked the player. He decided to shoot it and instantly got a 'Wanted Star' on the upper right hand corner and a drone came within 15 seconds and started to shoot the player. Then he killed the drone and 5 more appeared. Then a gigantic walking droid came from somewhere and they completely slaughtered the player. Obviously it was all fun and the audience as well as the developer playing it were laughing for the 'bad decision'.

I suspect you can lose the droids by just flying to a different planet, which there are too many to even care about.
But yeah, I can see that the mysterious ancient defence forces can get on your nerves quite quickly.

>>147703567
I think galactic police is different to the planetary defence thing, but if not then it will be a real annoyance if they hunt you until you're dead.

>>147703958
The galactic police force is probably more in line with if you attack transports and stations in your ship.

>>147703650
>>147703958
>>147704039
>player gets slaughtered by an instant overpowered response after he tried to defend against an immediate life-threatening menace
>audiance laughs and approves
It's not only ED, it's like everybody wants that the sheer notion of having fun in a video game must disappear completely.

>>147705234
I watched that video too, the guy wasn't even paying attention or just did it to demonstrate how you can get fucked if you're completely retarded. Literally won't be a problem for the non lobotomized players.

>>147705656
>Literally won't be a problem for the non lobotomized players.

No elite-dads in the game then. Sounds good.

If i recall correctly the dev also had a "vision". He wanted the player to explore and " enlighten" himself, and seemed very bothered when the ign press player started shootan everything.

>there's no escape

>>147705968
>IGN
>Not retarded
there's your answer

>No man's sky
>Implying it won't be delayed again

>>147706182
It better not be, it comes out within days of my birthday

>>147706182
>no online mode
Dropped

>>147706182
>>147706202
It won't be. They've specified the release date and the game is 'ready'.

>>147706425
Same as elite then :^)

>>147706432
>It won't be. They've specified the release date and the game is 'ready'.
Yeah, they also said that earlier this year during spring.

>>147706445
>memes
At least I can gank noobs in Eravate. The only """multiplayer""" component in NMS is naming procgen creatures.

>>147706425
It has both offline and online.
The online mode just has the twist that you cannot explore with friends or play with friends. You can only encounter random players, by chance.

>>147705968
The thing is I don't have a problem with the NMS vision because it's supposed to be a single player space minecraft with ships.
I have a problem with the elite VISION because they shilled the game as a massive multiplayer space MMO where you can BE ANYTHING, just to have the fun bits visioned out by the dads and Ftroop's incompetence.

>>147706579
>You can only encounter random players, by chance.
Source? I remember reading an interview where the developper said that you could see the name of the player who discovered a planet first but that would be it.

>>147706614
>space minecraft
It's casual Subnautica Lite with no building mechanics.

>>147706643
I thought it was in the same video with the drones and murdering that he mentions that you can encounter other players as well as NPCs.

Oh well. Not getting the game anyways.

>>147706643
>>147706579
>You can only encounter random players, by chance
Nope you can't. They clearly said the unique online stuff is when you find a new planet or species, you'll be able to name it and people around the world that will see it will see the name you gave to it.

is elite dangerous good?

I played the living shit out of frontier and first encounters back in the day

How much did braben casualize this? You cant manually land on planets right?

>>147706643
I've seen both.
In one interview they said friends can try to find each other, or people can blunder across one another but the scale is just so big the odds of it happening are super slim.
In another they didn't touch on that point but discussed the types of universe changes that are broadcast globally.

The exact question will players be able to see each other in the game if they blunder across each other has recently been not directly asked.

>>147706724
>is elite dangerous good?
During the honeymoon phase yes, then not anymore unless you're a dad who hates fun.

>>147706724
You'll love it if you liked the previous Elites. You can land on planets without atmospheres so essentially big orbiting rocks and icebergs. It's still somewhat cool, though.

I really enjoy the game despite the blatant flaws and ftroop's incompetence.
>>147706860
I'm one of those.

>>147706779
If they are trying to 'hide' something that everyone seems to be asking for it would hint that you cannot see each other.

>>147706724
Hilariously, ED still has less features than FE, and some of the features that came out of the box in FE(planets) are sold as a separate DLC in ED.

On the other hand, if you are boring enough cunt to find FE good then you'll definitely will like ED.

>>147706724
>is elite dangerous good?
HAHAHAHA
>how much did braben casualize this?
It's not about casualizing it, it's about braben caving to the dads on every account preventing qualitative gameplay enhancements from being added, and sandro adding strictly anti-fun grindy gameplay that even korean grinders would even find too extreme.

>You cant manually land on planets right?
You can but it's a multi stage process. landing on anything is easy as fuck though.

>>147706891
I don't think they're trying to hide it, I just haven't seen the question directly asked in months. Just a lot of questions that sort of beat around the bush and don't require the direct answer to be given.

>Flying around a planet in your DBE
>Scanning metal content in the crust
>Ping a super rich platinum node
>Drop to the surface, get out in your prospector SRV and activate a drill probe to see how deep it goes
>It's massive
>deploy a becon and call in your buddy
>After a few minutes you see your bro in his type 9
>You guide him in on top of the deposit
>He drops his mining rig
>Lands again a few hundred yards away
>Two other friends deploy in his constructor SRV's to assemble the mining rig
>Eventually a player made outpost is established and you each get a quarter of the profits from every load other players buy.
>Have to adjust prices to stay competitive with nearby mines, or engage in piracy to make their haulers feel less safe and flock to yours.
>This will never happen because dads don't want the game to be as good as it can be.

so "dads" are people who want mature space gameplay and the rest are ADHD teens who want spess cowadoody?

thats the impression i get from this thread

>>147707772
No.
Dads are the nostalgia 40+ers with kids who can only play a couple hours a week and don't want the game to deviate from the original elite at all.

They believe any gameplay that gets you rich more quickly than a snail's pace is cheating and are strictly against grinding.

To them the Cobra mk3 is an end game ship and a few have only just gotten into an E ranked python.

They complain about how dedicated combat ships are superior in combat to jack of all trades multipurpose ships.

They call everyone who wants the game to improve an entitled millennial while simultaneously asking Ftroop to refund their ships when they die without insurance money due to stupidity, or to relocate them when get caught 20,000 LY from the bubble and a good CG pops up.

>Run a few data missions between sothis/ceos waiting for good long range missions to spawn
>Get interdicted at least 10 fucking times by this faggot pirate NPC who kept asking for my cargo
>Cargo is completely empty
Quality AI.

>>147708461
>Get rewarded with worthless engineer mats
>HEY YOU'RE THAT BIG HAUL I'M LOOKIN FOR

>>147708635
>MISSION CRITICAL MESSAGE RECEIVED
>We will add a bonus if you can deliver the data before this new deadline which
>[Direct]Hey you're that big haul I'm looking for!
>MISSION CRITICAL MESSAGE RECEIVED
>I was foolish to believe you could deliver the data under 10 seconds...

>>147709074
>afk turret for neet bux
>CRITICAL MESSAGE RECEIVED
>pls deliver 3 units of shit fabricators to a station 300ly away for 285cr reward
Critical laffs.

>>147709074
>MISSION CRITICAL MESSAGE RECEIVED
>DELIVER THE CARGO FOR A BONUS IN 0m0s
Pretty sure not even a DBS could go from jumping in to docked in station with the cargo delivered in the 10 seconds they give you.

>https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/272105-Don-t-want-to-support-EG-or-Galcop-Want-an-alternative-The-other-contestants-are-throwing-support-behind-SEPP
Oh boy, these pathetic fags are getting desperate.

I don't care about that pseudo faction buisness but even then I feel the burning desire to go full red.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TN68sp-vIw

>>147674316
>>147693375
Whoa, where are you watching this?

>>147700178
As long as they don't make people at Fdev redundant...

>>147695661
>>147696015
If I understand, some sperglords started flinging shit at each other, like making their own /kspg/ threads, that mods autosaged "kerbal" and "kspg" in topic. They just add spaces to the name or [REDACTED] garbage in the topic.

>>147709782
Damn son, I play mostly for exploration and shit but I would never support such cancerous faggots...

>>147709782
>that one WiC trailer
You my kind of bro.

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>>147560448

>>147707772
Yes, but dads are also too prone for some nostalgia, "I was young once" feels. They are too "conservative" for their own good.

>>147709782
>tfw no space isis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K-sAufP7j4

Everytime I launch the game, I wonder what to do. I generally end up getting a random shipping mission, I fly, I yawn during supercruise sequence, I land, I get my miserable 20k cash and I quit the game. I never meet anyone. Everything looks so empty. When rare opportunity drives me to dogfight, I sometimes wn the battle and earn my miserable cash, or die like a little shit because I most of the time stumble accross experts AI. I love flight simulations and space trading games but fuck, something is wrong with this shit. I don't know, fuck VISION maybe. You tell me guys. Tell me why I feel so bored in this game.

>>147710318
Could be an /edg/ faction candidate :^)

>>147710514
You lack imagination.
I'm enjoying myself.
I'm not even shitting you. I'm honestly enjoying playing this game
I know what's wrong with it. I know why someone can see it as little boring, but I still have things to do that compel me.
I've been completely visioned. Help me

>>147710514
If that is money you want:
1. Get your base sidewinder to a RES and steal kills from the cops until you can buy a cobra and fit a A grade FSD in.
2. Get to sothis/ceos region and stack data missions to increase your local rep.
3. When 5m+ long range delivery/smuggling missions spawn stack them and get tons of money.
4. Enjoy the dullness and interdiction spam.

>>147710597
That has nothing to do with imagination and everything to do with you being a shiteating pleb tbqh.

>>147710597
Or the lack of progression.
I really don't know but I can understand your "vision", I guess.

>>147710649
Thanks for the tips. I already own a Cobra mkIII, but honestly it feels so heavy. I think of getting my Eagle mkII back sometimes.

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https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/271203-Powerplay-Expansion-Bug-a-month-of-silence

>>147710514
I have a notebook and a pencil on standby. Write down some general ideas, plans, expand them.
E.g. if I want 5th grade 3A enhanced thrusters for my iCourier, it's dating Elvira Martuuk, then hanging out with Marco Qwent before I get to know Professor Palin — of course, with all the required stuff and what I want from them too.

Dads would probably be grossly offended by this, "OMG you're planning ahead instead of discovering engineers at your leisure!1" (FUCK OFF DAD UR NOT MY REAL DAD)

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>>147711175

>>147711175
I'm shocked.
People still do powerplay?

>>147711175
RIP neetbux

>>147711727
Took pretty long for them to find it, though.

>>147711727
>>147711821
They didn't fix shit yet. Most likely it will be "fixed" with next point update.

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now this is podracing

>>147711821
The more people get mad at frontier the better. Hopefully at some point a critical mass will be reached and they'll finally start fixing things.

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>>147712053

fug XD

>>147712053
Can an enhanced engines iEagle be used for railgun intercepting?

>>147712058
Or shut the game down and run with the money. Said money would be better spent on cocaine and whores anyways.

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>people think FDev is losing money on this in any way, shape, or form

where this leads them remains to be seen, i admit.

WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE EMPIRE PROMOTION MISSIONS

FUCK

>>147707702
You asshole. You made me want this.

>>147713545
why aren't you a d00k yet anon

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>>147711175
V I S I O N

Driving around planets is kind of relaxing. I just wish there was more to do and not so many rocks.

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>slinging valuable metals and industrial materials en-masse and making about a mil and a half per cycle
>constantly being hunted by nothing short of wanted, elite anacondas and fer-de-lance
>suffer interdictions to draw them into station limits to start coring them one they get shot w/ multiple m. cannons
>bonus ~200k if i do it right, quick runs otherwise

Annywhere i am currently able to grind merrits. Just checked the gal map and i cant seem to fimd any?

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>>147715894
THERE'S NO EXPANSIONS GOING ON???

>>147715964
+rep.
Nice going FD

>>147707702
I jerked off to this, desu. But let's tone ERP down, this is a SFW board.

>>147716450
>I jerked off to this
Let's turn down the memery also.

>>147706724

>How much did braben casualize this?

Not at all in fact, I can hardly tell the difference. Its just as garbage now as it was back then.

*yiffs in the background*

>>147716784
Oh, it was simply the most exciting post in the last few threads aside from jump range mod on Anaconda.

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>>147712053
614 m/s at 2m height!!

>>147707772
No one wants spess cowadoody, and besides, that's already going to be a thing.

Dads are undying fanboys who will excuse FDev no matter how shitty, shallow, grindy, and buggy the updates.

The rest don't generally mind the gameplay, what they want is usually things like real social tools and ways for players to meaningfully impact the game world.

The dads get so inordinately angry whenever someone suggests obvious things like basic guild support in-game, persistent dynamic markets, improved multiplayer instancing, or combat that's more than just shooting infinitely spawning pirate ships in the local asteroid belt.

It's really, really strange, and a phenomenon that's unique to this game as far as I know.

>>147713450
True, they aren't losing money. They've sold something like 1.7 million copies, plus who knows how much in shitty ship skin packs and bobbleheads.

What they're losing is player numbers.

>>147705234
>player gets slaughtered by an instant overpowered response after he tried to defend against an immediate life-threatening menace

So I guess Hillary won.

>>147706724
as far as casualizing goes, the flight model is more like the original Elite, i.e. not newtonian. otherwise it's just as empty and boring as fe2 so you'll probably like it if you're not too autismal about physics

Does anyone have a link to the thread with the DG bitching about Galcop or whatever? I keep looking on the forums but I just see the general everyday banter.

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>ftroop is giving CQC tournament winners holographic dashbord projectors
I WAN MY BELLY DANCING HOLOGRAPHIC SEMEN DEMON NOW YOU HEAR ME FTROOP

>>147727287
is that it? wasn't there supposed to be a $100,000 prize for the CQC tournament?

>>147728446
The VISION needs money, CMDR! o7

>>147723827
The dads are like Linux users then, "If it isn't here, you don't need it."

>>147731201

"If it isn't clunky and time consuming, you're just an entitled shitkid".

>>147732604
"The Cobra MKIII is the perfect end-game ship, if you want to fly anything more expensive you are playing this game wrong."

>>147731201
>>147732604
>>147732793

>You have to use your imagination to fill in the gaps, and I like it that way. Why would you want compelling gameplay, entitled much? This isn't your game, this is Braben's vision!

>DO NOT ADD GUILDS. If you add guilds this game will be like EVE. For some reason that's a problem, though I'll never be specific about why. I spend all my time in Solo Play, but for some reason I care if other players are able to communicate and organize in-game.

>Grinding is just a state of mind. If you grind, you're playing the game wrong. Even though there's literally nothing to do in the game except grind credits, it's still somehow your choice whether or not you want to do that while playing. I just grind very slowly, which is totally a different thing.

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>>147733734
>You have to use your imagination to fill in the gaps
>pay some incompetent hacks that suck at designing gameplay and making content to imagine good gameplay and plentiful content yourself

This bullshit mantra triggers me the most.

If it was like that I would still be playing Escape Velocity: Nova or Space Rangers 2 since both are much better games and I could always use my imagination to pretend they are fully 3D and first person. Or I could read a good sci-fi book.

Why I need Elite then?

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>canyon running inna courier w/ enhanced thrusters on Farseer's planet

that planet has low g and great canyons, plus you get farseer's base right next door for quick repairs or respawn when you fuck up

>elite doesnt sell enough for Ftroop to justify keeping it going
>announces that theyre going to shut down the servers
>many dads posting sad sob stories about their adventures
>muh millennials
>RedAnders and Marc_Hicks have constant autistic fits until forum mods have to actually ban them instead of writing them off every time they act like faggots to everyone
>Pecisk on suicide watch after his investment becomes worthless as Frontier stocks plummet
>on last few days, servers are brought to their knees as players flock in to play one last time since Ftroop downgraded after peak players never went above 5k players
>GluttonyFang will have to find another community to shit up
>/edg/lords will be on scene, memeing on everyone
>Ftroop will keep their word and release the source code
>adamant codefags have to spend a whole month unspaghettifying the code
>finally the first modded version is released
>keeps getting improved on
>instancing is gone, there are player factions, engineers are gone, many quality of life changes
>some dads convert after they see what the game could have been and how much better the game actually is after it's ripped out of Ftroop's clutches
>mod forum is filled with dads apologizing for holding the game back and defending Ftroop's incompetence
>a new golden age for space vidya as more games and mods follow in Oolite 2's footsteps

One day, my friends. One day.

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>>147737220
>elite doesnt sell enough for Ftroop to justify keeping it going
Minimum. Viable. Product. Always.

Even if that happens dads will be posting shit like: "I got 5k hours worth of fun in this game and that's definitely was well worth it's price. What's wrong with with you entitled millenials? Why It's always MEMEME and MINEMINEMINE with you lot? Why you think you own ED? FDev doesn't owe you anything! -CMDR Ziggy Stardust".

>>147737220
Oh, and they will never release the source code. Oe maybe in 2036.

*sniggers*

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>>147740229
Is that short for Space Niggers?

>>147740501
*chortles*

LMAO STANDALONE CQC SHIT GOES F2P

>>147741056
>tfw ED will die before SC beta is released

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>>147741406
>tfw (you) will die before SC beta is released

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So wait, there are no guilds in this shit?
Why the fuck does steam have it tagged as an mmo?
I'm confused and saddened, guess this will be my offline game then, too bad.
Totally my own fault for not reading more about the game but still I'm shocked and pissed.

>>147742096
>Why the fuck does steam have it tagged as an mmo?
Because Elite: Dangerous redefines the MMO genre. Check your privilege, millenial scum.

>>147742096

There are player groups, in a sense, but there's no way to organize rank structure or faction chat or anything of the sort. You have to use TS or Mumble or Skype or some sort of chat program to communicate with everyone at once. Also it's rare or outright nonexistent for player group PVP since solo and private groups exist.

>>147732604
>>147732793
>>147733734
This definitely has that typical-linux-user vibe

>supercruisin' in Deciat inna iCourier
>interdicted by wing of Eagle+FGS
>rek them with beam+missiles
>interdicted 5s later by Cobra
>rek it

seriously tho? I'm not carrying any cargo, I'm not pledged to power play, I'm not wanted anywhere and I'm not doing any missions