Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

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Your soul shall be mine!

Where the FUCK is Maiev????

2nd for Forced Fifty

Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: July 05 - July 12, 2016
Li Li
ETC
Sgt. Hammer
Li-Ming
Johanna
Greymane
Kharazim (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
Tychus (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
Illidan (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
Tracer (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)

>its a "johanna feeds the entire game" episode

Seriously though, how the fuck are you so bad that you feed with one of the strongest tanks in the game?

So I just felt like playing hots again on a whim, but It's taking ages to find a quick match, it used to be really quick.

Are most people playing in Unranked nowadays?

also is sniper tyrande still viable or will people reprot me

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Does someone happen to have the /hotsg/ logo thing?

>>147513289
I find any kind of matchmaking to be a little slow these days.

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>>147513331
Nevermind my question, I found it myself.

>>147513289
Owl build is like her main build right now

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>>147512920

Nexus businesses/practices:

>Raiders Rolls
>Jaina's Cones of Cold
>Ashalanore's Salami
>The Soup Dash Sallac Kitchen
>Stormrage 10,000 Step Anger Managament Program
>Morales Bus Tours
>Gazlowe's Gadgets
>Abathur's Hat Emporium
>The 1,001 Gods Dojo
>Bronzebeard's Brew and Bloodshed
>Diablo's Overpowrestling Gym
>5-Man Maw Porn Studios, CEO Zagara
>Rexxar's Exceptional Obedience Training Academy
>Dehaka's Pawn Shop
>Valla's Phone Sex Hotline
>Stitches Comedy Club: Guaranteed to make you laugh, or we give them the Hook.
>Nazeebo's Voodoo Emporium: who do, we do, you do, Voodoo.
>Sgt Hammer's Lonely Blackhearts Bay Band

Events:

>Annual March of the Black King
>Sponsored by Cow King whole milk, it gives you Hardened Bones.
>Special guests this year: the Scourge, the Army of Hell and the Skeletal Mages
>Catering provided by Butcher's Slaughterhouse and Stitches' Shish Kabobs.
>any libcucks that protest in the March of the Murlocs against our rightful king Leoric will be Entombed.

>The Cult of El
>Nexus natives claim that the Nexus was once connected to a world where men and women of incredible power flew the skies and performed miracles great and terrible alike
>its greatest hero, Kal-El the Super Man, gave his life to stop Doomsday not just upon his city, but upon the Nexus as well
>The Cult has honored his sacrifice since then and believes he will return in glory someday
>in preparation for his coming, they have painted his emblem all over town, claiming that it stands for hope
>King Leoric has discouraged such treasonous practices and anyone caught praising or worshipping The Super Man will be Drained of Hope immediately

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>tfw

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>>147515327
>Torres de Fatalidad

>>147515327
fuck off arturo

Death............ .......... ...................... ................ ....... .............. .......is at my command

>>147515327
>tfw no pogo

>>147513190
Easy, by making terrible calls, having no map awareness, and constantly engaging awkwardly or just flat out piss poorly as the team's solo warrior
>its a muh camps muh camps muh camps muh camps muh camps muh camps muh camps muh camps muh camps muh camps muh camps muh camps muh camps muh camps muh camps episode

how many hours till ptr? i havent slept in 24 hrs cuz was owning ppl up on my sick FUCKING SICK genji in overwatch, like srsly at one point i even took a pause to think of how good i am, i need some sleep but now i wanna own ppl up on my SICK GULDAN

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When does the " personal rank adjustment" bullshit ever go away?

If i dont win 60% I keep dropping.

>>147518427
should only take one derank. just throw the demotion game if you can't ignore the bullshit

>>147518720
i deranked from D5 way earlier in the season and I still get that every game

>>147519607
I assume in the higher ranks you have to play a lot more games to keep ranking up. If the people ahead of you are constantly grinding 30 games while you only play a few, then we you get your score calculated again, isn't it going to go down?

I'm not 100% on this, but that would be my guess.

>>147513020
>Weekly Sale Items for July 05 - July 12, 2016
>The Butcher — Sale Price: 4.19 EUR - 3.19 GBP
>Iron Butcher Skin — Sale Price: 3.69 EUR - 2.70 GBP
>Commander Raynor Skin — Sale Price: 3.69 EUR - 2.70 GBP

>>147519607
1 more then. you should really just ignore because it means nothing other than being able to duo with someone slightly worse.

>>147520254
pretty sure it's all small mmr windows except for the very top and the endless bottom of bronze. if you are a certain mmr you go in that predefined division and get adjustments when you are outside of the appropriate corresponding place. it's not something that is dynamically changing where people knock each other around in diamond because it can only be a set % of people.

>>147520657
I don't understand how people pay so much for skins. Even the ones I want I don't think I'd be willing to go higher then $0.99 for. I mean, I wait for games to go under $10 on steam before i buy them and Blizz wants me to shill out $9-4 on visual bling?

>>147520913

Some people live empty lives and the only thing they can get to make them feel unique is a video game skin. And they're willing to forfeit one (1) hour's work at McDonalds to get it.

>>147520852
I thought MMR and rank were only loosely connected.

>>147520852
what the fuck? so I placed Diamond but I have to get down to Gold just to get rid of this stupid penalty?

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i'm bad with voices but
is medivh's hots voice actor the same voice actor he had in wc3?

>>147521380
I think not, but I'm not sure

>>147521380
>>147521462
it actually is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bell_(actor)#Video_game_roles
neat

>>147518427
>>147521236
the penalty happens if you MMR is lower than your current rank. If you keep a positive WR your MMR should keep rising and eventually your personal rank adjustement would become 0 or positive.

>>147521515
Cool then, love when they use the same voice actors

>>147521515
That makes me really happy. I've always loved his voice.

>don't play this game for 3 months
>come back because of WoW maintenance
>the game still somehow manages to randomly not read mouse clicks
full release version when

>>147521014
rank is only about as loose as you could assume mmr is an accurate estimate. in other words someone at gold 1 could really be a gold 3 but you really wouldn't be able to tell any difference playing with or watching them and a real gold 1 anyway. plat should be obviously better than silver. it's a really weak obfuscation of mmr. like a slightly bent mirror.

>>147521236
only down a couple divisions not full bronze/silver/etc. ranks. others get the illusion of improvement when they "grind" up a little after placement. you're part of the 1 out of 20 out of line more than normal.

https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4ph02g/why_are_rank_and_mmr_two_different_things/d4lk9ju

really entertaining right?

>>147522886
>the game still somehow manages to randomly not read mouse clicks
i actually never had that happen to me

>>147523038
I'm down to Plat 5 from D5 and still get it

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Can we have this as a Leoric skin?

>>147522886
Do you use the Steam service that lets friends watch your game? Nvidia video capture shit that's bundled with the driver? Is it even on?

Those things can cause odd mouse input problems.

>>147520913
My drug money has to go somewhere. I own the entire game from 50% off sales, except 7 skins.

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@takada

t. /vg/ chat

>>147523832
w-what

>>147523497
PLEASE YES

>you have to get like 2-3 wins (and one more for every loss) every single day to just keep your grandmaster ranking

thank you blizz for turning this into a grind competition instead of using mmr

>>147524382
This is why I just play the game and ignore ranked.

I barely have time to play 2-3 real games a week.

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>>147523832
Assuming you're him, he commented on how Murky is a good KT counter. I admitted that Rexxar was a good Ching Chong counter... then this happened.

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I've been thinking about an Alien skyn for Dehaka, he has the tongue, the spiked tail with a talon, and the theme

Imo it could be pretty sick

(Pic not related)

>>147525089
Would the only difference be the lack of eyes?
It feels like he's too close to that already.

>framerate still tied to ping
>still only two servers
>Xul still hard counters every melee character
welp, maybe this game will be playable in another 2 years

>>147525231
Yeah that's what my friends are telling me too lol
It could have been just one of his tints

>>147525309
>framerate still tied to ping
I actually like that. Let's me no when I'm lagging so I don't waste a long cooldown skill shot.

It's a 'your team chooses the worst lanes to match up with' episode!
Our tank just walking back and forth eating AA's from valla, wells, eats a lot more AA's while fumbling about. Backs right before obj.
4v5 give it up.
He goes to lane with her some more. No one rotates to help him out.
Welp that was fun.
>Valla top hero dmg
kek

>>147515327
>Medivh
I like you

>>147525576
enjoy living in a region that actually has a dedicated server then

Is there any better feeling than when an enemy hero thinks they're going to get away with low health and then you nail them with a skillshot?

>>147526105
Cockblocking assassins as a support. You know they're gonna rage somewhere and demand healers/supports be removed from the game. Same for any other game really.

AURIEL

>>147515327
How would all hero names translate into a forced spanish?

El Mago Medivo
Coromi
Araña Anubis
José Reynor
Valeria (valla)
Gomez (gazlowe)
Bartolo (abathur)

When they drop PTR?

>>147527391
Diego Raynor, estupido.

>>147527391
>>147527593
Raynor is James, so he would be Jaime

Oh cool, it's our only healer went full damage build and blames team for when he fucks up episode.

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>>147527301
Is cute! CUTE!

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>mfw switching regions and playing Li-ming against scrubs

>>147528172
Is ming in free rotation?

>>147528659
Yep, seems that way

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>>147527391
Illidan = Daniel
Rehgar = Ricardo
Monk = Moncho
Stitches = Puntarrajos
Li li = Lily

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I'll start playing Hots again when they finally introduce Ysera's sweet booty.

>have chromie in team who keeps crying that we are going to lose
>says everyone else is shit
>call her out for being the shitter she is, doing nothing
>talks about having 2k more damage dealt to heroes than me
>when enemy has a morales who instantly heals any poking she does
I wish Blizzard could just bump my MMR by 1k so I could maybe have decent games

>>147530332
I kinda want blizzard to bump everyone to grandmaster, and just see how many players go straight back to bronze/silver/gold

>Blizzard hasn't shown the new hero's skills yet
>PTR isn't up yet
Its like they want this game to die

>>147530061
Ysera has been in the game for 15 months

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>20 points from promo

Is there anything more annoying? other than shitty teammates

>>147531038
You know what's more annoying? Not knowing Gul'dan's skills and talents
PTR WHEN RRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I'm done with this shit game. It has way too many shit players and the mmr system is broken

>>147531774
Fuck the MMR, why can't the shit players get fucking better?

PTR UPDATING ON NA SERVER

>>147531512
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dsqSWKfHBA

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HOW THE FUCK IS THIS FAIR. FUCK YOUR KIKE GAME BLIZZARD

>>147532025
Rain of Destruction looks like a bad choice desu

>>147532025
OP confirmed

>>147532025
>Rain of fire is March of the Murlocks 2.0
JUST

>>147532025
Oh for fucks sake.

I can already see the people in my ranks (bronze/silver) dying for overusing life tap and blaming me for not healing them

>>147532662
If that happens it means they captured the warlock class fantasy from WoW properly

>>147532025

Yeah I'm not interested in him, hope Auriel is fun.

>>147532072
Haha holy shit what. How long was that queue ?

>>147532025
Looks cool

>Patch notes longer than the rest of the patch notes this year combined
Game confirmed alive, overwatch confirmed for previously stealing our devs

>>147533126
We fell within the average wait time.

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>>147532025
Dem thighs though. I know for sure a fic i could write based on it

>>147533126
400-500s if even. Felt like short wait for TL

>gul'dan
>cone skill shot (oh my!)
>retarded three circle gimmick (more posion!)
>life tap (meh)

>horrify
zero damage, just some cc that's unreliable due to randomness

>rain of fire
lots of damage, but inconsistent due to randomess

BORING
AS
FUCK

>>147533291
>http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20164442/heroes-of-the-storm-ptr-patch-notes-july-5-2016-7-5-2016

Damn these are pretty long

>>147532025
So what map is the one at 4:20? Looks like a warcraft undead map

>>147533291
>>147533639
holy shit

>>147533643
It's just a background. Like Medivh now has a Kharazhan background on the title screen, it doesn't mean it's a map.

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we league now bois
>did you know, teammates who are friendlier to each other win 13% of the time more?

Where were you when Jaina became OP?
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20164442/heroes-of-the-storm-ptr-patch-notes-july-5-2016-7-5-2016#Jaina

>>147533639
>Hots now supports Dx11

We are way behind the times

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>>147533917
I hope some of then are funny, like in the good ol days. pic is from warcraft 2 the humor is super outdated and kid friendly but it still made me smile

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>rain of fire is random

GANGPLANK 2.0

>>147533639
>Battlefield of Eternity: AI Heroes can now halt their attacks on Immortals at the center of the Battleground in order to gank an enemy Sgt. Hammer that is attacking inner-Towers and Keeps.
even the fucking hots team is bullying hammer

>Ranged, Melee, and Wizard Minions
>Now deal double damage to Structures.

OHLY SHILT

>>147534193
>Never pet a burning dog
Fuck you blizzard, you are not my dad, don't tell me what to do or who to pet

TRACER
Abilities
Pulse Bomb (R)
The size of the “Stuck!” text that displays on-screen when Stuck by Pulse Bomb has been reduced in order to increase visibility during gameplay

THANK
FUCKING
GOD

>>147534378
What in gods name where they thinking with that Heroic, it's fucking huge and almost impossible to hit the enemy with. They need to increase the size of the projectiles or reduce the radius of it.

>>147534000
I'm going way too slow over these, but
>Health globes buff

Don't know how to feel about that

>>147534193
>never spit into the wind
I can't remember if that was Warcraft 2 or Rise of Nations but either way it's a good idea

>Healing Wells
>Cooldown increased from 100 to 120 seconds
>Health Regeneration
>Previously: Restore 41% of maximum Health over 20 seconds.
>Now: Restore 40% of maximum Health over 20 seconds.

wew are healing wells even worth using now???

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zagara changes
what the fuck

>Catapult minions will now fixiate on structures

The amount of games ended by the minions will now triple, probably quadruple in bronze

>Nerfed Go for the Throat AND made Marked for the Kill an ult that isn't all that great unless you take the level 20 thing for it

I wish I could get a refund for Greymane

>>147534813
>Max amount of Nydus Canal’s on the map increased from 4 to 10

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK

>>147534841
I was about to post
>Add something good to marked for the kill and at the same time remove the only other good thing about it

so uh
vikings strong now?

>>147532025
>Gul'dan appears on screen
>WoW's "orcs doing bad things" music starts playing
I'm game

>>147534841
>Increase damage
>Nerf
The 20 seconds CD increase is nothing just like increase of CD on phoenix meant nothing. They overbuffed Greymane if anything.

>>147535042
Bribe vikings got a small buff

>Victory determination is now much more precise in situations where both Cores are destroyed within fractions of a second. As a result, Victory will no longer be decided at random in cases where it appears that both Cores are destroyed at the same moment.
what did they mean by this?

>>147535243
increased regen on orbs will also help them
the buffs to bribe are surprisingly neat, so i could see that becoming a more favourable pick

>Developer comments: Kerrigan has become a bit of a one-trick-pony, we think this is ok

FUCK YOU BLIZZ

>>147535267
Someone posted a video of this seemingly happen.

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AW SHIT SON

>>147534813
>No longer has a timed life. Mutalisks will now last until killed

Raynor BTFO

>>147535526
>>147535526
>>147535526
>>147535526
>>147535526
WHAT
WHAT
WHAT

>Symbiote will now be paused if the allied target enters a Stasis effect or if Tracer uses her Recall ability
>all these Abathur buffs
Aww yeah

WILL NO LONGER DISMOUNT GAZLOW WHILE USING TRAIT!!!!!!
how many useless changes they have reverted so far?

>all these changes

based blizzard

>>147535423
If you actually read it they don't think its ok. They nerfed her one-trick-pony build and buffed other aspects

The changes look good

They buffed the fuck out of splitpushing

>>147535840
They actually made it not a meme

>Add a buff to the mana trait for monk
>It's still useless

>>147534813
>nydus canals can only be placed on creep
nofun.jpg

no more baneling health is interesting. probably to make the ammo talent more appealing but that's a no fun kind of change too limiting interactions.

>>147532072
did you win?

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please tell me this shit being pitch black is a bug or something

>when Greymane is released, he's commonly considered the most balanced hero in the game and genuinely rewards good play while punishing idiots (both ones playing him and playing against him)
>has been continuously nerfed ever since they realized he counters mages
Dustin husbandoing Kael'thas has wrecked HotS as badly as Kosak waifuing Sylvanas ruined WoW

>>147536031
We lost within 13m

>>147536072
oh it actually becomes bright green if they're hurt and the bar is blue because of colour blind mode
that's really fucking cool nevermind my premature rant

>those zagara changes

into the trash she goes

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neat

Rain of destruction seems to be totally useless, though. One fireball out of the whole barrage hit the training dummy.

>>147534000
>We now support Dx11
For fucks sake

>>147536267
He has four buttons up top too? Play me a song Mr. Piano (Gul)'Dan

>>147536267
What barrage? That spell is to push people away isn't it?

Rate the changes of this patch

>Zagara/10

>>147536267
if they're gonna make the damage random they should at least make it summon infernals or damage in a bigger AoE

>>147534828
maybe. this and the other minion changes move the decision making bar a bit when things more or less have to be done. so there's a clearer structure people actually agree on and the tough calls are left to the big boys. really game changing patch.

I like how Nova, the one hero who desperately needed changes to not be a memepick/QM-only hero, was completely ignored.

>Healing Wells will now display on the minimap in the form of plus “+” icons, until they are destroyed.
just clutter my minimap up fampai

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>>147536405
tfw no anub zagara op fotm duo otp

>>147536649
You are probably not in bronze if you think people will pay attention to that
I envy you

>The in-game AFK detection system has received adjustments that will help prevent cases in which Medivh in Raven Form, as well as Nova and Zeratul in Stealth, could receive AFK notifications despite actively participating in the game.
The game has been out for a year and they only now got around to this? kys blizzshit

>Left-clicks can now be issued through all in-game UI elements while the cursor is in targeting mode.

I have screwed so many times because of this, fucking finally.

Why haven't they removed Garden of Terror completely? It's a piece of shit map, same as Mines

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>>147536374
1 is Consume Soul, which instantly kills an enemy minion for a large heal. Holds two charges on 30 second cooldowns each. 2 is Healthstone, which heals 30% of his health on a 60 second cooldown. The last two are Demonic Circle, which lets him place a sigil on the ground and teleport to it. 3 to place it, 4 to teleport to it. Has a 60 second cooldown. Placing the sigil has a cast time, but teleporting is instant.

>>147536387
>>147536519
I'm mystified as to what they were thinking with this thing. Still, despite his kit being a little underwhelming, he looks like he might actually be pretty good. He's very sustainable, with practically infinite mana, and health coming out of his ears if he's got creeps to eat.

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A Z U L A
Z
U
L
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>Fixed an issue which prevented Heroes from playing their “Pissed” voiceover lines after being repeatedly clicked.
YES

>>147537209
MY FUCKING SIDES

>heroic ability
heroic my fucking ass
only one hit, nothing else else, dummy had enough time to regen health

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this looks really awful
i don't remember what exactly it looks like on live but it looks better

>>147537602
What the fuck is that

>>147537209
its spread is far too large, the projectiles far too tiny to make efficient use of it
they need to tune both to be closer to one another

>>147537662
the way core health is displayed on the PTR
it looks different but bad different

>>147537662
Maybe is the core health? I'm just guessing here.

>>147537235
Li-Zula skin when?

>No longer grants Unstoppable while leaping.

NERFED
E
R
F
E
D

>people actually think Brightwing will be shit now
>her trait build has been good (albeit not as good as phase build) all along and just got buffed even more

>its a "jaina draft and feeding thrall episode"

>>147537741
90% slow on lv20?

>they broke the post-match results screen
Excellent work, Blizzard.

>Protection in Death (Trait)
>Increased the Shield duration from 5 to 10 seconds
This talent is now legit amazing.
10s Shield equal to your max health for everyone close to when you died.

>>147534000
Mein nigga. Winter mute then let the 6 frostbitten waves of hell wash over your enemies. Melee got you down? Drop that target on yourself become one with blizzard.so. fucking. Good.

>We're buffing Muradin
>By removing unstoppable from leap
what the fuck

>>147532025
uninspired as shit desu. q is medivh's q, drain is a bastardized form of azmo and leo tethers, and the poison thing just looks boring

>>147538198
He's like a legit suicide bomber now with the increased damage too

Maybe Abathur's shield build will actually be useful now?

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>Increased Worgen form’s damage bonus from 40% to 50%
>New talent Eager Wolf: Increases the Attack Speed bonus of Inner Beast by an additional 40% after it has been active for 4 seconds.

> Fortifying Brew (Trait)
>Can no longer be cancelled by reactivating the hotkey (default D)
wow thx for killing chen

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>>147538779

Chen and Muradinfags btfo.

>Nova: Holo Decoys can now use Basic Attacks against enemy Monsters and Mercenaries. After taking the Lethal Decoy Talent, Holo Decoys will also be able to use Basic Attacks against enemy Minions.

RIP in peace Jaina, Kael, Muradin, BW.
Did i miss someone?

>>147538808
>i just bought the warmaster skin

fuck me

>>147539084
chen

>>147539084
>Kael'thas
>Jaina
what?

>>147534000
Literally Jaina nerfs, reduce the initial damage of blizzard to add a third wave and make it cost more? No one gets hit by the second wave. Nerf frost armor?

Who the fuck is balancing this game?

>>147538808
Can you still move ot attack to cancel it?

>>147527825
She doesn't have a face.
She's probably, like Tyreal, black and ugly and covered in scars.
She doesn't have a face!

That kind of thing can't be cute. She's not cute at all!

>>147539512
nice try Belial

>>147539084
Are you daft? Jaina just grabbed a ledge. It's a long climb up but at least she's not falling. And Kael has hardly changed . Still gonna top the charts.

>>147539512
t. lesser demon

Zagara feels like a even more like a fucking siege beast than before with these changes. Infinite mutalisk and endless creep is amazing

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>>147527825
>>147539512
>>147539567
Cyadea when?

>>147538808
>>147539021
>>147539106
nice memes

>>147539460
yes

>>147536267
It decimates forts/keeps

>>147540591
Show us proof

>>147540647
Doing it on PTR right now, life tap AP talent plus rain on turret lines just fucks them up

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>nerfing jaina
????

who is going to get hit by a third wave of blizzard? and you have to wait until 16 to get the radius increase that competes with the vaulnerability and root?

I do hate how they keep removing talents from people as well without replacing them with anything, soon she will only have 3 talents to pick from at every tier

i've made it to jaina only. holy shit this fucking patch is huge. tldr are things good or not?

>>147540908
there's no point in having 6 talents half of which are never picked. That said, they made 6 talents for late tiers for Zagara again, so I don't know.

>>147541094
Truly awful patch

losing the first punisher should just delete the game from your hard drive. No one ever comes back from that unless the other team lets you win

>>147541331
What?
The first punisher is the most meaningless

>>147541094
as usual is good for some heroes and bad for another heroes

also if you are using jaina, even before this patch, is because you're a huge retard. there's not a single reason to use her.

holy shit why does it take so long to find matches

jfc

Did Zagara keep the talent that makes creep spread further out?

>>147541443
>if you are using jaina
i may be plat but im not wood

>>147541406
Not that guy, yeah he goes down fast and takes virtually nothing, but the winner can get at least 4 waves of minions cleared in other 2 lanes (assuming they timed it correctly), giving you a solid advantage in the early-midgame

>>147541481
nope

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>Chen's chug is no longer cancelled by tapping D

Praise jebus.

>Nature's Culling reduced from 200% to 150%

Only a matter of time.

>>147539989

pls

>>147536779
I don't know why they won't just rework Kerrigan like they did fucking Zagara, and change every other non-snipe or Lethal Decoy talent of Nova's, because they nerfed her to the ground then buffed her up so only one type of build is viable. They fucked up hard with her.

>>147541625
>>Chen's chug is no longer cancelled by tapping D
>
>Praise jebus.


You just have to move to cancel it btw.

>>147541625
>nerfing the only thing that made lunara useful
okay

Is the PTR up? How's Zagara?

WHY THE FUCK DOES IT TAKE SO LONG TO FIND A GOD DAMN MATCH

THIS FUCKING GAME IS DEAD.

>>147541678

Yes, I know. Tried him out a while ago and had a lot of fun, tried him out again and found his trait cancelled if tapped a little too quickly.

>didn't buy his Warmaster skin recently because of how his D felt

>>147541758

A lot of fun, I think. Global creep placement at 20, Hunter Killer's that last indefinite duration, Banelings are fired 1 by to and potentially very quickly.

how big is sonyas dick?

>>147541901

>banelings

1 by 1, rather.

Looks like she may be a bit less of a lane bully after these changes, though. W damage significantly down, at least early, in addition to her attack damage, even if they increased it while on creep.

At least she is looking a little less linear to play now.

this game is very consistent. Every time I play it it's less fun than the last.

>>147541094
Good for most heroes, but all in all the changes aren't going to change builds drastically except for a few heroes (zagara).

>Dwarf Toss (E)
>No longer grants Unstoppable while leaping.

What the fuck! Doesn't that completely remove all Muradin bully from the game? They just removed my favorite thing about my favorite hero.

I have never been so disappointed in a patch.

I might actually play again with those Abby buffs, to bad that the game is dead.

http://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20164442/heroes-of-the-storm-ptr-patch-notes-july-5-2016-05-07-2016

>Ranged, Melee, and Wizard Minions
>Now deal double damage to Structures.
sounds like specialists will be really op now

Greymane
>Increased Worgen form’s damage bonus from 40% to 50%
>New Talent: Eager Wolf (W)
>Increases the Attack Speed bonus of Inner Beast by an additional 40% after it has been active for 4 seconds.
this might be broken af

>Kerrygan changes
they pretty much killed her only viable build

Lunara
>Nature’s Culling (Passive)
>Damage to non-Heroes decreased from 200% to 150%
i love that talent but it was borderline broken desu

>Zagara changes
sounds good

>Fortifying Brew (Trait)
>Can no longer be cancelled by reactivating the hotkey (default D)
why?

>>147541901
>>147542138
How fast can you cast the banelings? Can you roll all 4 as fast as the skill used to?

>>147542276
Muradin is useless now if your enemy has stuns at all.
RIP best dwarf.

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>>147542324

Just as, if not faster, yeah.

>>147542317

>specialists

As if Xul needed any more pressure; surprised he received so few adjustments.

>Falstad: Will no longer be struck by ground-level objects, such as Abathur’s Toxic Nests, while using Flight.


Ayyyy.

>baseline, toggled Helping Hand

I can dig it.

>>147542602
Time to trolololol from the beginning of the game. And i mean helping.

That change to minion damage is going to be hell in bronze and silver games where most of the team completely ignores them.

I bet this makes it even harder to get out of MMR hell, because I've been able to persuade teams to stop a lot of bad behaviors, but ignoring minions isn't one of them.

>>147539084
kael is a lot of nothing
bw heal didn't need help. any team that tanks up around her is already a massive pain.
jaina is kind of mixed. still a mobility liability with no slow or cooldown changes. 1 more blizzard wave to zone with isn't much
muradin is better for most people

missed nova, tracer, and anyone who can't get value from or do camps themselves. lower leagues are already run by specialists and tracer seems likely to drop some.

>>147540908
nobody gets hit by a second wave or even the first as it is without some kind of help. it's a bit of a trade off for bigger potential. going for more niche power than someone like li ming that is just spam.

>>147542602
Too many hots WTF videos of fal eating all the mines trying to fly from one spot to the other

>>147542317
>Fortifying Brew (Trait)
>Can no longer be cancelled by reactivating the hotkey (default D)
>why?

Because when you spammed his Brew button you could potentially cancel it immediately, so now you can't do that. Just right click to move and cancel it. It's a QoL buff.

>>147542717
Play Zagara with nydus and push all 3 lanes

r8 my guldan http://www.heroesnexus.com/talent-calculator/83-guldan?filter-ptr=1#7aMbIbJbNb6aFbTBA

>>147542735
>muradin is better for most people
People who can't play Muradin? Fuck you.

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>>147542717

>climbing out of the depths

Xul and Zagara.

>>147540908
Why the fuck are they nerfing Jaina? This just makes blizzard worse "muh zoning on a 15 second high mana cost ability where she has no damage for another fucking 15 seconds"

are they fucking high? no one took the talent at 16 even if you were building blizzard because a third wave fucking sucks, nerfing the initial damage of blizzard so people can continue to not get hit by a third wave really fucks her even more. They really have no clue what they are doing

>>147542838
>spamming
What kind of idiot does that? You only need to press it once. I don't have a problem with the change, I almost always attacked or moved out of the brew, but I can't believe that was a problem that needed fixed.

>Base Creep spread distance increased by 33%
>Nydus: Passively increases your Creep spread by 25%
Anyone taken screenshots of how big the spread is now?
I've always wanted creep buffs for Zagara. Too bad the duration increase talent is at 20

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Salvage (Trait)
Will no longer dismount Gazlowe if used while mounted


HA-HA!

>>147543074
When you are rolling your face on the keyboard you sometimes end up hitting the same key multiple times

>>147543074
Noobs usually spam it after they get stunned in the hope they can activate it quickly.

Was always hilarious to watch them cancel it right after though.

>>147543202
why did they even change that before in the first place

>>147543074
Didn't it used to be that way?
kinda like how
>>147543202
used to be this way

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>>147543174

For science.

I'll post Nydus/live versions in a moment.


>>147543381
>>147543382

"consistency", or something. Around the time they made Azmodan's global trait not dismount him.

>>147542954
I think you mean Azmodan, who is going to be fucking awesome with new super minions.

>>147543381
>>147543382
God, who the fuck knows why they even changed it in the first place. But they're the same stupid fucks who haven't completely reworked Kerrigan's talents and abilities, and who fucked over Nova and her playstyle and haven't done shit to help make her feel good again.

They're also the fucks who insist on keeping Murky a one-trick pony who is inherently countered by every Support because they have Cleanse, which is the best counter to his single trick, as opposed to, I don't know, reowrking him a bit more, and reverting the retarded nerfs they made to March back in Alpha. Who knows why they do the shit they do.

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>>147543516

Following-up. Keep in mind both of these images are from the PTR.


>>147543523

Potentially. I prefer Xul for his immense lane pressure and ability to 1v1 most Heroes later on in the game. Pretty great for ganking with his E, too, if your laner is awake.

Can someone post a webm of the Demonic Gateway please? I want to see how it looks

>>147543860
That looks about the same as the live creep with the talent

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I hope there will be some dialogue if Azmodan has this skin with Gul'dan

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>>147543516
>>147543860

I'll have an endless creep up in just a second.

>>147543917

I'd offer, but not terribly familiar with the creation of them. It doesn't look at all generic, though.

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>>147543516
>>147543860
>>147544050

And that's the lot.

so when does this patch come out?

>>147544596
Never

>>147544621
Probably two, if not only one, week(s).

>>147543516
>>147543860
>>147544050
>>147544315
Thanks for these

Looks like Nydus talented creep is exactly the same as Endless creep. Was hoping it would spread slightly further

>>147544723
That means at least a month before angelic tits

>>147544984
Yep.

>>147542948
>i baited xul i'm pro now mommy
seem pretty mad over something that's been know forever that anyone playing a few games could notice. forums aren't locked by rank either.

it's good news because he's going to drop like a rock because even people who didn't have a clue were benefiting just based on reflexive instincts, not "skill" like blizzard thinks. you can rejoice when muradin is the next gutter trash that goes to the top of the charts.

>>147545032
Then fuck this
I'm going to freeze myself for a month like Cartman

Wake me up when angel tits is here

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>>147545306

I'll probably just be keeping the game on the back burner until spiderlady is teased.

>forever

>>147544596

A week, I imagine?

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>>147523497
Oh my god

>jaina nerfed
>brightwing nerfed into oblivion
why?

>>147545938

>Jaina

Seems like they're pushing her into a role sort of similar to Gazlowe, in zone control, while also being a burst mage.

>Brightwing

Eh, guess this is the route they're taking by making cleanse alternatives less impactful.

>>147545907

Yeah, it was also linked on the Hots Twitter as being some contest winner, or something. Might actually see it, eventually.

>Kael'thas still hasn't gotten a skin

THE FUEL FOR MY MAGIC

>>147546336
IS MEMES

>>147546143
>Seems like they're pushing her into a role sort of similar to Gazlowe, in zone control, while also being a burst mage.
her zoning is worse now because she doesn't get the radius increase until 16 and you will never take that over vaulnerability or the root

also it's a 15 second CD so her zoning is still very bad

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>>147546642

Hey, I didn't say they were doing a good job. Just seems like that's what their intention was, or is. Might see further changes, especially if her win/play rate dips.

>>147539415
jaina is too cheap. we can't have her to be this powerful, otherwise ppl won't buy kael

>>147532025
Tbh first impression Gul'Dan seems like he's going to be terrifying to lane against. I'm talking straight up Thrall/Zagara laning potential. I'm so hyped.

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skellybro here
>le forced 50 meme

start at a 63% win rate at 49 games played
currently 60% win rate at 65 games play

still working my way to that 100 games played count that an anon told me to reach for, just 35 more games left

will forced 50 strike and cause me to lose most of those 35 games remaining?! find out next time when this shitposter blogs on /hotsg/!

>>147547028
they literally said that is what they want her to do in the developer notes, but she doesn't really do zone control aside from once every 15 seconds with a tiny radius spell that if she is missing she is losing 50% of her burst damage for 15 seconds

it should be treated like a damage spell and not a weak as fuck zoning tool

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Who is the most annoying hero to play against?

>>147547191

>laning

Sort of wish there was a little more to this tiny phase of the game.

>no last hits, so can't deny them
>early poke doesn't matter
>early kills don't matter unless you're playing on/with a Hero capable of taking towers early through spawns/range (Zagara, Xul, Hammer)
>zoning opposing players out of minion experience range and simply not pushing the wave is the equivalent of advanced tactics
>minions don't murder your face if you walk through them at early levels
>if you're getting dunked on in lane just sit under/behind towers and soak experience

Just feels sort of empty.

>>147547503

Yeah, agreed.

If anything they should give her something similar to Chromie's fire-and-forget slowing heroic in the form of Blizzard, if they want her to be about zone control.

>>147547629
Tracer or Medivh. Incredibly overpowered and see them everywhere.

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>>147547629

I'm definitely going with Tracer; entire kit is just cancerous.

Alternatively Zagara if you're a weak laner, or a good Zeratul if you're an immobile squishy.

Honorable mention to Vikings if your team doesn't know how to play against them, and/or the Vikings player is experienced.

So, how is everything on PTR so far?

Is gul'dan good or shit?
How about the changes to others?

>>147547713

>Sort of wish there was a little more to this tiny phase of the game.

Ya except for the fact that there are maps which are incredibly important to have a good solo laner on e.g Dragon Shire

Who's gonna take of control top lane against a Gul'dan with infinite mana with optimal drain life usage?

>>147548017
guldan is pure micro

>>147547406
are you duo queuing ?

>>147548143
all solo
don't have anyone to duo with

planning on continuing my solo streak for the next 35 games (so i can at least get that 100 game mark on my own) and maybe i'll consider going duo

>>147547629
Xul. I still don't get why Blizzard thought invalidating all melee heroes and all specialists with the same hero release was a good idea

>>147548091

Rexxar, perhaps?

>far enough back to dodge the corruption
>Misha stun for drain life
>unsure of range on his fel wave ability

May not be able to outright kill him, but seems like it'd at least go even. Perhaps even in the favor of Rexxar depending on the CD/effectiveness of Drain Life early game.

>>147548346

>and they buff him

The ride never ends.

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>>147547746
You realize Medivh has like a 30% win rate right

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i used to come here for the lewd pictures. why aren't any being posted?

>>147548554
>hotdogs
You don't really understand why medievh is op anon.

>>147548601
Because with the PTR notes we actually have something to talk about you degenerate

>>147548601
People actually discuss the game instead of waifufag the entire time.

>>147548554
>statistics
>hotdogs
Another redditor. Another day.

>>147536374
Testing him on the PTR, it seems Piano Gul'dan is the only really viable way to play since that's all his self-heal and survivability.
You COULD try to go glass-cannon and take all the +damage talents, but Guldie's lack of mana regen and the need to use Life Tap will limit that to Bronzie scrubs.

>>147548441
>Rexxar the counter to Gul'dan
I will hunt you down!

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>>147540908

They are nerfing the fuck out of jaina because they want you to use a high mana cost 15 second cd small radius spell for "battlefield control"

lol

>>147548601

Content and patch notes first, friend.

>>147548554

I think Li-Ming and Tracer will always be annoying, regardless of win rate.

>sneking around on zeratool
>birdman sees you and just follows you around

It doesn't matter how effective or worthwhile it is, it can be annoying.

>about to finish off 10% Valla
>birdman jumps down and kayle ults her on 5 second CD

There's also more to hero strength than winrate, comrade. Probably not the time to get into that, though.

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>>147548601
There's stuff about the game that's actually worth talking about right now. But we can post lewdity, too.

>>147540908
>blizzard stuffing their big thick cocks deep into Jaina's tight asshole over and over again

spoiler this shit man

>>147548895
>There's also more to hero strength than winrate,
Winning is literally the only thing that matters. Diamond Rank detected

>>147549075

>nazeebo 55% winrate
>never picked in competitive, occasionally picked in ladder

>uther 45% winrate
>always picked in competitive, often picks in ladder

As said; probably not worth discussing.

>>147523497
As a janitor, this made me laugh really fucking hard.
Would play the fuck out of/10

>>147549424
>implying what happens in competitive actually means anything to the 99.9% of players on the ladder

competitive players make up less than 1/10000th of the entire playerbase, they can play a 4 support 1 spec team and still make it work somehow

the winrates are based primarily on ladder game results, and since almost everyone playing hero league isn't a competitive pro player, yeah, the win rates do matter

Jaina CoC Build with Ice Barrier is actually uh really good??

>>147523497
We need more everyday skins like that or lumberjack Uther.
maybe firefighter Kael or something

They actually nerfed Jaina. What the fuck?

>>147549656
Alright I'll bite. Build/strat?

dude quests lmao

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Level 20
New Talent– Endless Creep (Trait)
Increases Creep Tumor cast range by 2000%
Creep Tumor duration increased from 240 to 600 seconds
While on Creep Zagara gains an additional 20% move speed
>Increases Creep Tumor cast range by 2000%
>2000%

>>147550162
It'll be really fucking fun to play as Zagara past level 20. Just creep the whole map from your spawn

>>147550162
bretty gud
backdoor builds incoming

>>147550162
>>147550346
>pick useless talent
>enemies just kill the creep
>lose because you're a shitter

>>147550591
are you this guy >>147548554?

>>147540908
>blizzard implying someone will ever hit a third wave of blizzard with that small as fuck radius before 16
>implying anyone took the third wave of blizzard at 16 because it's just trash and people rarely got hit by the second wave
wew not even in bronze will jaina be playable

>>147550749
no but that shitter replied to me.

>>147550162
How far is that actually? I'm guessing that it's about the same as Abathur mine range.

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>Greymane is now a decent Valla and a better Butcher in one
>Greymane does 240 PER HIT at level 1 in wolf form
RIP Butcher. Make the Nexus great again!

>>147550792
I'm here to throw!

>>147550834

I'll go check right now. Could've sworn it didn't offer a visual indicator, though. That 2000% nearly blew my mind when I saw it.

>>147550894
>Butcher niche
>Valla getting power creeped
>Lol now let's make this strong as fuck nigger EVEN BETTER
10/10 Bli$$ard

>>147550894
>>147551110

Poor Butcher.

He isn't really fun to play with, against or as. Wonder if he'll just get a rework.

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Hello Darkness my old friend....

>>147550834
Probably like half across the map. Base is 2.5 range so it's like 50 range or something

>>147551259
you would have to make a completely different hero

>Whenever blizz finally releases arena
>5v5 Gul'dan
>They all pick rain
>Use it at the same time
>Everyone gets hit only once

>gul'dan taunt
>Your soul shall be mine!

>male orc shuffle dance

bretty gud desu

>>147548017
Pretty sure Gul'dan's wave clear may be nerfed. He seems pretty damn good to me, Drain Life helps mitigate the fact that he has no escape pre-20.

>>147523497
FUCK

I would pay real money for that

>>147551504
>Drain Life helps mitigate the fact that he has no escape pre-20
unless anyone ganking you has a stun

>>147551259
How to fix Butcher:

Increase lamb to 4 seconds like it was originally and reduce the cooldown to 60-70 like it was

Make him only lose half meatstacks on death as baseline

Remove the slow fading on his q

and done
Reminder that Butcher, Nova and Malfurion got absolutely no changes this patch despite being heroes that definitely needed tweaks the most

>>147551874
the death pact skill mitigate the fact that he has no scape

>it's a rehgar can't dodge hook and is dead all game episode

>>147549970
1) Increased Chill Duration
4) Frost Armor/Arcane Intellect
7) Ice Floes (Crucial)
10) Ring of Frost
13) Ice Barrier
16) Northern Exposure
20) Ice Block

Basically turns Jaina into a short range ability based bruiser who shits out damage and give you nearly double your health in shields if you're fighting anywhere near minion waves or structures, with 100% up time by juggling with Frostbolt.

>>147551983
>Reminder that Butcher, Nova and Malfurion got absolutely no changes this patch despite being heroes that definitely needed tweaks the most
Well if they did they would have probably just nerfed them like they did to Jaina. The like to nerf weak heroes

>>147549656
>Jaina's Corruption of Champions build is actually good
Who would've guessed.

>>147550162

>update

No visual indicator, but it reaches (in try mode) from your Hall of Storms/spawn to just behind the enemy front wall/towers, give or take. Range is reasonable, but not global, or anything.

>>147548731

Potentially. His Drain Life appears to have a ten second cooldown, which would significantly hinder his self-sustain if stunned.

>>147552098

>instant, in-combat mount
>still can't dodge skillshots

You can't make this shit up.

>just had a game in which lunara complained we didn't ban Jaina and Li-Ming
>lunara
>calling gg two mages
>she died to skillshots all game

>>147551280
thats what you get for being an orc slut

>>147552312
>Potentially. His Drain Life appears to have a ten second cooldown, which would significantly hinder his self-sustain if stunned.

not as long as you have healthstone and consume soul

>>147552223
Hot
Needs more artwork though imo.

>>147552114
Obviously don't take her against a comp with a lot of long-range poke, but with the current bruiser meta this is actually working a lot better than I initially thought it would.

>>147552312
>Potentially. His Drain Life appears to have a ten second cooldown, which would significantly hinder his self-sustain if stunned.
just Siphon Soul Misha