/dsg/ - Souls General

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no fun

i wanta souls bf

>BLOODBORNE
>>147332732

>>147340726
>brazilian kids with autism

>>147340580
Yeah but off handing a rapier means i dont have the spellbuff from candlestick right?
If i'm going to do that i may as well drop the candlestick all together

since i dont want to wear dusk crown because it looks shit i figure i needed the spellbuff to be doing reasonable damage. but maybe 7.5% isn't that worth after all

DaS permadeath runs starting:

twitch
.tv/miltrivd

>>147340867
candlestick is only 12.5% now, it;s trash.

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>>147340746
What is that supposed to be? A tiny stormdrake that nameless king rides on?

Rate my meme

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/51867

>>147340904
12.5% is a lot when your spells hit in the hundreds and you need to make every hit count since hitting them is so fucking hard. and dropping the candlestick out of the build only really lets me swap Havel's for a Young Dragon ring, which is 8% anyway which is worse.

>>147340967
Spicy meme

>>147340547
any way to level up quickly?

Wanted to start a pyro build but god the early game is such a dreadful slog

>>147340957

Yes.

>>147341014
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/young-dragon-ring
According to this, Young Dragon is 15%

Who is best final boss and why is it Mergos Wet Nurse?

>>147341047
Dancer

>>147341092
>he let himself be decapitated

>>147340731
>Iudex not being 1
>Champion and dancer at same level
>oceiros same as pontiff

What's this shit graph?

>>147340967
refined meme +10

>>147341092
If the purple fog didn;t have a time limit and was just a permanent phase 2, it would've been one of the best bossfights in the game.

As it is, it's a boss with no phase 2 in a game where every other boss has a phase 2. Who's idea was it to make a potential final boss mechanically simpler and easier than most of the other bosses in the game?

It;s first phase is just a "stand in the blidnspot and sandbag" too, which is just fucking awful. BB had way too many bosses like that.

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who /doesnthave3/ here

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IT'S A MAN

>>147341184
What's wrong with those?

>>147340967
switch to warrior/10

>>147340731
>>147341340
>difficulty of cheesing each boss

where are the angels in dark souls 3?

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What sword is SoC holding in the cover art?

Bastard sword maybe?

>>147341298
This is practically /ds3g/ now, gramps, get with the times.

What's a good SL/area for low-level invasion FUN (e.g. griefing and gank spanking)?

>>147341467
bastard sword most likely

>>147341340
Iudex is too easy, he wouldn't be if he had more hp but as it is he's easy af, dancer is easier than champion, even if you parry him since he doesn't always throw out parriable attacks. Oceiros becomes trivial if you have a shield, pontiff doesn't.

>>147341467
The hilt is of Bastard Sword but it's too short.
It's probably supposed to be just a generic straight sword

>>147341184
>Champion and dancer at same level
>oceiros same as pontiff
Yeah, that sounds about right

>>147341394
Switching to warrior costs more levels

Has anyone figured out the specifics of the latest patch yet?

>>147341184
Oceiros is difficult for casters due to his nigh-immunity to magic and dark, and his constant charge attack spamming
Pontiff is easy for casters because his ai bugs out and gets trapped in a loop trying to dodge spells that he can't dodge, and because elemental damage kills the close super fast while he just slowly strafes sideways not attacking you at all. Pontiff is also easy as fuck for anyone that can parry.

Dancer is fairly easy, but Champ is "just parry me, bro!" the boss. Champ also has a comically small HP pool and most endgame characters can just trade with him all day and R1 mash, facetank and chug him to death without every needing to learn his moveset or how to dodge. You can just steamroll him with raw stats.

These numbers are averages, so they include the input from many various builds that have varying degrees of difficulty against different bosses. /dsg/, aka "I only use 40/40 quality" seems to have difficulty understanding that there are more ways to play the game than passively spinning at pontiff's with a refined glaive.

>>147341467
It's Heide K***ht Sword
:^)

>>147341298
its worth it m8

it has so many boner inducing moments

>>147341621
I found dancer easier than champ, and oceiros much easier than pontiff

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What's better for invading, SL 30 or 40? I'm getting tired of my SL 20 twink because I feel like my weapon selection is so limited.
I want to make a dex build I guess would be best. Try some of the more cancerous weapons like 2kat.

Screenshot is my current edgelord, that dagger buff really helps you tear through low lvl hosts.

>>147341560
This here
>>147341706

>>147341731
>Heide's Tower of Flame has giant statues of Gwyn with the head of an eagle
>Cathedral Knight Greatshield depicts an eagle spreading its wings
>its item description claims that the symbol represents one of the ancient kings of Lothric
How deep does this rabbit-hole go?

so is ds3 based on revelations or not?

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>>147341298
More like /Whohasbutdon'tplay3/

>>147341316
BOIPUCCI

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>>147341954
After grinding for hours trying to get covenant items for magic in order to 100% the game I really don't feel like touching it anymore.

>Pure FTH punchy nun run
This is not as challenging as I thought it would be. I'm guessing it gets a little better after Abyss Watchers.

Does Leo work with Immolation Tinder?

>>147340731
>people found nameless king hard
not even showing off but i beat him the first time i fought him at like SL 80. the dragon dies so fucking easily to headshots and you just have to roll spears.

the boss himselfs combos are easy to double roll

>>147341316
Post proof, show pecker

>>147342251
Before you ask this question, always check to see if the weapon actually has thrust damage listed on its page.
If yes, then yes
If no, then no

>>147342187
I'm almost finishing the covenant collectives.
Only bitches of Darkmoon left now. I feel like I will drop the game after finishing it and going NG++ to get the rings.

>invade as SL 30 Watchdog
>host name 'Dat Boi', green character
>kill his white when they're both rushing me down
>he runs away to the farron keep bonfire with all the pillars and spam rolls around pillars so i cant hit him until he can summon again
>kill the phantom again 1v2
>he runs around a bit then pulls the plug

why are redditors so shit at video games?

>>147340731
>Vordt so high
>Crystal Sage so high
>Aldritch so high
>Homoprinces so high
who the fuck made this

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>>147342258

>>147342187
That's exactly how I felt with all of the other but BB. There's always a huge grind that makes you loathe the game for months.
At least the grind in BB was not necessary for the Plat.

Is it possible to get softbanned while offline?

>>147342332
Too late, he already asked

>>147342332
It works as long as the weapon has thrust damage and not only for attacks with "thrusting" animations? Nice.

>>147342258
But it's still a fact that his health pool and damage is above and beyond really every other boss in the game besides soul of cinder. Couple in the longeivty of the drake+the king every time and it's easily among the hardest fights in the game. But as you said, rolls are so broken none of the game is really that difficult to begin with

>>147342187
>torture yourself by doing something un-fun in a game for hours just for the sake of something pointless
>surprised when it sours your enjoyment of the game
I'll never understand you cheevohfags. All I have left is the gestures one because I can't be arsed to bother with proper bow, but I never had to farm for any of them, and just eventually got all the other achievements through normal play, while I was doing things I enjoy when I wanted to do them.

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You're going through Carthus on a new build and this guy invades and backstabs your phantom. What do? Bear in mind he's SL46 and wears the Obscuring Ring.

>>147342527
Yeah yeah you sure fucking did fag

>>147342619
>twindaggers
kek
Have you met my friend straightsword R1?

>>147342619
Send him my army of 7000 darkmoon cunts, whites and gold sluts.
Good luck.

>>147342391
In all honesty nobody should have any problems with Capra Demon, the stairs are so obviously meant to be used in that fight.

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An Anon explained the difference between BKG and Gundyr's to me earlier and it sounds like BKG is better overall but the terms WA and AR were used and I don't know what those mean.

>>147342710
*unsheathes Target Shield*

>>147342747
Weapon Art and Attack Rating.
"Skill" and total combined damage.

>>147342747
Weapon art
Attack rating

>>147342745
I've had attempts where Capra will be up the stairs as fast as you along with the dogs

Just be honest, yeah Capra isn't that rough but there's lots of situations in Ds1 where if you get unlucky you're prob gonna get cheesed

>>147342810
Same can be done for daggers lol

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>>147342527
>normal play
>waiting hours to collect less than three of those blue sentinel items

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>>147342821
>>147342850

Thanks.

Honestly I feel stupid for not knowing or being able to infer that. This is the From game I've put the most time into.

>>147342619
>implying I have a phantom ;-;

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https://youtu.be/c97W8CeeU0w

"99 strength" invasions.

Playing a strength build using ultra great weps is suffering sometimes. Smough's hammer might be the slowest swinging weapon in the game.

>>147343072
You are one of those retards who tries to parry 2handed ugs swings and whips aren't you

>>147343158
Smoughs hammer is fucking dope stop being such a shitter

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>>147343000
>tfw I unironically like the Xanthous set but everyone uses it as a meme
It looks so exotic and weird. It's one of my favorites.

>>147343212
fuck off pepe

>>147342968
>waiting
I just left the icon on and got summons gradually between invasions and other activity.
You can still be summoned as a blue while you have a summon sign down or an eye orb searching. My rate of summons spiked up sharply after the maintenance a month ago. Still not often enough to where I'd sit around and wait for it, but often enough that it's worth leaving on while I'm doing other stuff.
I ended up getting both DMB and the ring on my level 80 luck build that can't use either, but I had fun getting them and never wasted a single moment of my life killing silver knights.

>>147343158
Well stop using literal meme weapons and maybe you will have a chance.
Also he only has 66 strength. What a fag.

>>147340547
Nameless King was easy at SL105, i was just waaaay overleveled, right?

>>147343264
rude

>>147343158
Str builds are fun, use a different weapon.

>>147343212
It's a nice looking set

Don't let a meme stop you from using it

>>147341467
It's a broadsword
How stupid are you, /dsg/?

>>147343158
Use it's poise skill

>>147341706
Dark is Oceiros second weakest elemental resist though.

>>147343326
very overleveled.
on my first playthrough I think I took him on around level 70-80 ish, I don't remember.
the hardest part was to actually manage to hit that damn dragon in the head

>>147343450
i definitely agree, fuck the camera on that stage

>>147343421
No, the Broadsword's blade isn't straight like that sword's. It's more of a wedge shape.

>>147343421
The blade itself isn't broad enough, but otherwise yeah, it probably is.

>>147342392
BB forced you to slog over chalice dungeons where only one of them was fun and most bosses were boring.

>>147343450
Weird. Killing the dragon was the easiest part for me.

>>147343212
Hey, at least it isn't the fallen k nig ht set right?

what is the best boss weapon to upgrade fully for a quality build? im thinking Gundyr's Halberd

DaS 3 still dosen't have black hair?
You've been able to play as a black person for 3 games and they never thought to add non-straight hair?

>>147343625
Hollowslayer, Propaned

>>147343674
nignog detected

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>>147343674

>>147343674
WE

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What (DkS3) weapons would I use if I wanted to cosplay as the trailer knight from DkS2?

>>147343681
requesting art of hank hill with profaned great sword

>>147343625
They all fucking suck compared to non-unique weapons in the same class

>>147341954
Shit i'm the opposite
>Ran 1 once
>every time I try to replay 1 i'm started at how hard the undead parish can be to a low level character even at the hands of a skilled player

>>147343554
I liked playing through the chalice to get to Queen Yharnam.

It was going through them for the gems that was the problem.

>>147343674
>black hair = non straight hair
There's some kind of cis/white privilege joke to be made here but I can't think of it.

>>147343784
Straightsword of choice, Composite Bow, Dragonslayer Axe, Golden Wing Shield, Cathedral Knight UGS

>>147343784
Dragonslayer Axe, Longsword, Golden Wing Shield and Torch.

>>147343782
WUZ THE 4 KANGS

>>147343380
They are! I've loved strength builds ever since I picked up the Dragon Bone Smasher is Demon's Souls. I'm fond of the Demon's Greataxe in DS3. Not the best, but it is really cool!

>land WA with Wolf Curved Sword
>get the proc
>by the time i have control of the character again and start a swing, the buff has worn off

literally what is the point of on hit build up procs when you hit someone twice they get anti stunlock and 3 is by far the easiest game to just avoid combat by constantly rolling?

>>147343993
Use it as a backpack to apply the effect with a much faster and better weapon. Paired weapons can trigger it and benefit from it in the same combo.

>>147343674
Don't forget that they removed the choice to give your character glasses. And the beards aren't nearly as good as Bloodbornes, or even the plastic looking ones from DaS 2.

>>147344073
Why would there be glasses options in a medieval fantasy game? It makes sense in Bloodborne, not in the Souls series.

>>147343860
Most African peoples have very coarse, curly, wavy, or otherwise non-straight hair. That's not tumblr discourse, that's just genetics.

>>147344071
i see
that's a pretty shitty design choice though

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>>147343959
I myself am a fan of Vordt's, the regular Greataxe, Heavy Zweihander and even Cathedral Knight popsicle sword

>>147342619
>having a phantom
I only summon if I get invaded and I'm wearing terrible gear. It's just one guy, I can fight them down.

>>147344187
It's part of the design choice rule: "unique weapons cannot be good"

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>>147344107

>>147343784
>concept art has no visible neck
>completely exposed in game
Do I just need to adjust my characters body size or something? I really don't like it.

>>147344210
Regular Greataxe as in just "The Greataxe" but it is also Heavy infused.
Just for the sake of clarity.

>>147343784

>Concept art looks great.
>Looks like ass in game.

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Best PvP Katana in DS3 still the Washin' Polar bear? I'm edgy and I know it.

>>147344309
This hat will never not be funny.

>>147344489
I can never link Missing Kid into Perfect Storm. Such a hard combo.

>>147344489
L M A O
2 K A T
K
A
T

>>147343554
Yeah, but the objective was clear and not some RNG roulette or dull collectathon.

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Okay, so supposedly one of the DLCs is coming out this month, but there's no info on it other than that. Sounds fucking fishy.

>>147344773
Congratulations for being an idiot.

>>147344665
2kat nerf when?

>>147344845

Calm down.

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i must proceed at a moderately rapid pace

>>147344845
TRIGGERED

>>147344773
1st dlc comes out around Autumn

>>147344927
>not NK's crazy anime hair

>>147345054
shit you're right

>>147344927
kek, make a webm when you can

>>147344131

>People wear magic rings and swords of light
>Glasses don't make sense

Spectacles aren't ever that modern.

>>147345280
They're post-medieval.

>>147345191
i don't know how to make those, help

>>147345027

Brutal. Was looking forward to sooner.

>>147344131
Considering all the meme attire like the Xanthos hat glasses aren't ridiculous.

>obscuring ring nerf
for what purpose

>>147345420
here you go:
http://pastebin.com/4ipnGRND

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Dohrys' Gnawing: trash or hidden gem?

>>147344473
Anything Dark Souls II summed up.

>>147345513
How bad is the nerf?

>>147345537
Boss shredder. Anything that can bleed fucking crumples against it.
Not great for pvp.

>>147345537
PVE: gud
PVP: ganking maybe? rather than that, I can't see this dark miracle being useful

>>147345553
slighty worse but still perfectly fine

the question is why the fuck would they even touch it

>>147345789
A smart host couldn't be found with it.

>>147345789
INT oneshots before you can see 'em coming.
Eh, it's okay, wasn't really a problem though.

Is dragonscale ring any useful?

>>147345948
>backstabbing in DS3
Hue.

>>147344107
riku?

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>>147344210
>Vordt and Zweihander
my nigger

>>147345789
Shitters that can't go around this bridge

https://youtu.be/TDWSDdOsx6M

>>147344210
>>147346110

Vordt's would be the coolest looking weapon ever if it didn't have the frost effect.

People have been saying the Spin Slash of the smaller weapons (Sellsword Twinblades in particular) have been stealth-patched, is that true?

What are the dos and donts of collectors edition? I kind of want to make a new Knight and get him to 80 or 120 asap but I cant be arsed going thru NG and NG+ for like the 15th time so Im curious how to proceed

What's the low level most people say sorcerers are unviable in pvp?

>>147346462
<60 I think. Between 60-80 is probably prime surgical Soul Streaming, past that is your usual SL~120 spellsword builds.

How was the Dark Sword nerf? Is it still good?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_NUVESpjzg
>no one CALLING HIM
post salty webm BC

>>147346645
Literally only a 10 AR decrease

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>>147346763
>b-but i'm using a bad weapon..

>>147345537
Great against bosses that are vulnerable to bleed, since you can spam it at a distance. Bad in pvp because it's slow, has terrible tracking and deals no damage.

>>147344473
At least they fixed it in the third game, it looks fucking amazing apart from the exposed neck, but I use a different helmet anyway.

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If I want to make a dex character for invading but also want to avoid the 100-120 duel meta, what's a good SL to aim for? 40-50 for catacombs and irithyll capital + dungeons?

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>>147346959
>visible neck

So if I wear Ring of Steel Protection does that cancel out the extra damage from the Prisoner's Chain?

>>147347082
Dex is shit for invasion

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>>147345948
Backstabs hardly ever happen, just keep walking and you are safe.

>>147347115
In pve: yes
In pvp, not even close.

>>147347150
Even if I go for some meme 2kat build with dagger for ripostes? 2kat WA has hyperarmor, right?

>>147347082
Irithyll and dungeon ate like 60's bruh

>>147344210
>Alva helm with Lothric Knight armor and matching legs & gauntlets

Fine as fuck tastes, muh nyuchka.

>>147347310
Cathedral Knight mitts and booties my dude.
I have such a boner for fully armored women

>>147344210
>Cathedral Knight popsicle sword
I like to use this with the leo ring, it's got good pokes

Fucking nips and their inability to have decent netcode. I swear my weapons pass through phantoms as if they are ghosts 90% of the time while theirs stagger me into paste

>>147347432

Does it have good HA?

>>147347558
>does [non-glaive weapon] have good HA
lolno
Even the straightsword WA has better HA than UGS.

>>147347558
As any UGS

Can someone come give a low level guy an assist with Lothric and Lorian? I'm outside of the boss fog. PS4, pass is dsg.

>>147347432
What buff is popsicle sword by the way?

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>>147347114
>>147346959
>Make character have pitch black skin
>Never have to worry about exposed anything again

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>ganking with just one white phantom at pontiffs with dried finger
At this point i'm not exactly sure who is ganking who to be honest.
It's like a neverending stream of 3/4vs2

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>tfw I found the perfect armor combination

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>>147343189

I don't parry ever.

I'm not good enough at it to do it consistently so I don't bother.

>>147347809
It's shit, m8

>>147347432
The only poke is the 2hr2

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Some of you unkindled are alright. Don't go to pontiff's tomorrow.

>>147347906
nah I'm fairly certain I'm a fashion god bruh

Reminder to ALWAYS dry finger, summon 2 friendly phantoms, have WotB equipped. This almost certainly ensures online longevity and blues getting concordes. Also use seeds cuz fuck reds

>>147347809
Oh! Your face! You're practically hollow!

>>147347837
Ok whatever
Post more thick mommy

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>>147347809
Like Allfather Lloyd, you're a derivative fraud.

So sunlight straightsword is the best sword now? Yes?

Is counter damage in DS3 determined by a hidden weapon stat like DS2, or is it a flat bonus like DS1?

What the fuck do you replace a broadsword with in dark souls 2? it's starting to feel weak now but everything I've come across feels even worse or is too slow for my liking. Or do you just upgrade it to +10 or something?

>>147347973
They fixed leftstoc, m8

>>147347672
please
i don't want to get fucked in my small and delicate anus by Lorian.

>>147347765
popsicle as in its shape, not buff

>>147348090
Okay. I'm on my way

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so can we agree that

pve

BB > DeS = DaS > DaS 3 > DaS 2

pvp

DaS > DeS > DaS 3 > DaS 2 > BB

>>147348079
Pursuers?

>>147348079
longsword

>>147348159
Yeah but that blue color is what I was interested in.

>>147347672
>>147348090
Just put me sign down. Fair warning though, I suck at this boss. PSN: Circlont6

>>147348039
what gloves and leggings are those?

>>147348192
>Pursuers
Isn't that a greatsword? I find them really clunky

>>147348190
kys yourself faggot

>>147348264
It's one of my favorite fights, but I'm ass at it too.
I brought Sirris along, fair warning. Not because I believe she can do anything, but because I want to see her kill herself. I've never completed her quest before.

>>147348070
When ever you attack your thrust defense drops like 20%.

>>147348190
Lolno

Pve

DaS>DeS>BB>DaS3>DaS2

Pvp

BB>DaS>DeS>DaS2>DaS3

>>147348274
Knight leggings and Black Iron gloves.

>>147348039
I've been using Chain helm + Firelink armor and gloves for about a month now, just never tried Iron legs before now. So nah bruh, I'm fairly certain I'm good

>>147348367

Oh, I see. So it's a debuff associated with specific animations? That's... odd, but okay.

I guess anything that does thrust damage is the go-to.

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>SL120
>1k health
pole sprinting shitters are always a sight to behold

>try out the dark hand @ SL20/+2 invasions cause meme videos and shit
>passworded phantoms and other twinks unironically die to it

damage is good but the moveset is absolutely awful, fun though and having a pyro @ SL20 is a change of pace from warrior I guess

Is level 70-80~ still the best range for the grandarchives/archdragon peak areas?

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>>147348378
>best pve
>DaS

>>147347672
fuck that boss

took me about 30 tries and i dont have online or any summons to help

>>147348592
>Memebow
You are also a sight to behold

>>147348614
try it on +0 build in high wall
also equip full thorns set

I can still get Chameleon at the Church Of Yorshka without getting 5 sigils before Carthus, right?

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>>147348378
>BB and DaS1 (one)
>good PvP

>>147348740
I have to stay in character

If untended graves is Firelink Shrine in the past, then where did all the Black Knights go?

>>147348348
Sirris literally did nothing but bloat their HP.
Why is she so fucking weak.

>>147348740
>any bow being meme now

Why?

>>147348662
DaS
>precise, deliberate, weighty combat that rewards patience as well as being headstrong

BB/DaS3
>mash R1 and flail your arms as wildly and fast as you can. The faster the better because even a tickle can stunlock a steel clad knight to death

Yup :)

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So I wanted to make a cosplay of Armorer Dennis from DS2 to invade semi-low level hosts. According to the invasion calculator I can invade as far down as level 45. What area would be the best place to find SL 45-55 hosts? Irythill? Cathedral of the Deep?

Here's the build if anyone is interested.

>>147348814
I feel bad enough already, that just sounds like ascended bullying.

>>147348823
Yeah, the dude's there even if you never get Yoel or Yuria on the playthrough. You just have to follow Anri's questline, I think.

>>147348914
Just don't bother, she's dead weight. Sign's down again.

>>147348885
Stay a fag

>>147348895
to the smouldering lake where they can fulfill their old purpose
one got lost in farron swamp, two others are raping remnants of demons
there should be a few more but maybe we will find them in the dlc

Any man finna drop me an Immolator?

>>147348989
Who marries Anri if you don't?

>>147348996
I'm a princess.

dex or str?

>>147348960
DaS
>second half literally unfinished

Yup :)

>>147349040
An Immolation Tinder? I've got a few. What platform you on?

>>147348942
*unsheathes proper bow*

>>147348962
>not Yuria's robe

>>147349068
I think they're just dead in Gwyndolin's old bossroom.

>>147349139
PC

High wall, dsgtrade?

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why the fuck lothric's fast direct miracle is impossible to get
that thing would solve most of current problems of faith builds

>>147348592
>Ringswapped Blessed Weapon
Really dude, couldnt spare 5 damn points?

>>147349126
>first half literally better than the entirety of the 3rd installment

Stopreplyinganytime.jpg

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>>147340547
Just got DaS1 for sale, what am I in for?

>>147349068
Me.

>>147349107
Both.

>>147349219
Isn't it just a recolored Crystal Soul Spear?

>>147349186
Yeah, give me a minute to boot up the game. Look for a red sign named Lowen

>>147349242
I needed 23 in vit for wearing Dusk's set + crown and a claymore and still stay under 30%

>>147349253

B L I G H T T O W N

>>147348989
I'm on my way. I'm going to run.

>>147349305
Thanks lad.

>>147349248
yeah well, that's just like, your opinion man

>>147348914
Are you going to summon me or not?

>>147349150
Well, yeah, but why?

>>147349253
a good game

>>147349253
30fps
Backstabs
Fun

Get dsfix and DSCM. The game is practically unplayable without them.

What is the difference between blades of the darkmoon and blue sentinels?
Which one gets summons faster?

>>147349248
This. Dark Souls up to the lordvessel pretty much shits on das3 in pretty much every way

People shouldn't ask for poise back. The meta would become Yhorm's greatshield + wolf ring2

Those two combined with pretty much any armor provides more poise than full havels

>>147349253
Game isn't hard but stop spamming R1. Be ready to get rekt if you try PvP early in the game unless you invade yourself. Don't try to roll out of backstabs.

>>147349398

Practically nothing except that you get BS sooner and you get summoned more frequently with it, although I've heard people get tons of summons in Irithyll as a DMB. Also that Darkmoon has covenant rewards, obviously.

>>147349453
Plus LKLS

>>147349398
0=0 so dealers choice, but honestly it takes forever to get summoned and 90% when you do either the host or the invader is already dead so it sends you right back.

>>147349398
None.

I don't think there's any actual difference that I know of. If there is, I don't think it's enough to warrant repeating the same covenant twice.

Outside Mound Makers, fuck this game's covenants.

>>147349398
I don't think there is any difference at all. That shit on the wiki about Darkmoons getting double ears for killing Aldritch Faithful is a lie.

>>147349395
and pvp watchdog
>le malcom face

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>>147349453
this was already discussed millions of times and all sane people understand this
thankfully From will NEVER bring back ds1 poise, poisefaggots already got an official response

>>147349453
Ironically Dark Souls II had the best poise mechanics. Apart from how poise is regained that is.

Really the biggest problem with DaS1 poise is how it combines with backstabs.
I still want Demon's Souls backstabs back but I guess that's a pointless dream.

>>147349819
>poisefaggots already got an official respons
Where?

>>147349398

It's just so you can engage in the covenant at the beginning of the game instead of the end.

Due to lore significance, they made a second covenantm. Blades get lmao2ears!! for killing Aldrich Faithfuls if they get summoned to protect a host in Anor Londo.

Of course by the sounds of it Blades were meant to be invaders but Miyazaki changed this because he's forgotten how to make good video games.

>>147349453

Except if poise had been enabled then all related articles of poise would be balanced accordingly.

You cannot engage in the fallacy of assuming that if one unfinished thing would happen then everything else related to it would be identical, that's retarded.

Poise in DaS3 has a softcap which reduces any extra poise past a certain point anyway, which you would know if you did your research, which you didn't of course.

>>147349354
Presumably that pilgrim killed them. You also find the pilgrim dead just outside of the area.

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>>147349840
>Ironically Dark Souls II had the best poise mechanics
It was a disgusting system stuck between poise and hyperarnor that did neither of them good.

>>147349819
>official response
bitch WHERE

>>147348895
Also, considering Ludleth dialogue after you find Fire Keeper's eyes, does this mean that Untended Graves if FS during the time Ludleth linked the flame?

"Tis as if it were but yesterday. We did all we could to spare her from them. Much has happened since. Mayhap I should apprise thee."

"So I will'd myself Lord, to link the fire, to paint a new vision."

>>147349453
Then can someone explain to me what the fuck is the point of heavy armor? Why raise vitality when you can pump vigor or STR/DEX?

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>>147349343
no problem mate

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So if I was interested in using Dark Magic with a regular staff like Heretic and no real faith investment would I see a serious decrease in DMG? I don't want to put points into FAI but can it be mitigated by using the Izalith staff instead?

>>147349819

If "poisefaggots got a response" when why is it still a stat, the in-game tooltips lie about what it does, some equipment provides poise (even though it does nothing), and some equipment "breaks poise" even though that's the same as rewinding DVDs?

Poise is turned off, it needs to be turned and balanced accordingly to fix the shit weapons, shit armor and dump stat that is Endurance.

DS3 is still an unfinished game without Poise.

>>147350057
To easily recognize the prey

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>>147349928
>>147350008

>>147349453
Just remove the poise effect on Yhorms and nerf the amount of poise that wolf ring gives.

Problem solved.

>>147348190
The undisputed opinion of a patrician

>>147348989
Thanks.
And thanks to you too.

>>147346895
what a scrub

>>147350069
Also interested in this

>>147349340
>>147350205
Fine work, skeleton.
What SL were you out of curiosity? You had like no HP.

>>147350069

You can still do decent damage with Dark spells with just regular Int scaling.

But this involves having 60 Int + Court Sorceror's Staff, I imagine with Heretic's Staff it would be pretty trashy.

>>147350143
>"The stat works differently that in past games and is more situational"
Read that as "We don't know how to make it work without making it too strong like 1 and too useless like 2"

>>147349982
The concept of every hit slowing you down but you only losing your balance if your poise is broken was great though. It made poisestabs impossible, kept getting hit always dangerous but still helped a ton compared to getting stunned.
Armor or rings being poorly balanced isn't a problem on the mechanic itself.

>>147349453

PvE is better with poise enabled. Source: try it yourself.

As for PvP, I'd rather the meta being Yhorms GS + Wolf Ring 2 + LKLS because a parry or whiff can be riposted/backstab punished whereas R1 phantom range spam being the meta is just fucking stupid.

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>>147349928
>>147350008
>>147350103
>>147350143
https://steamcommunity.com/app/374320/discussions/0/357286119101543484/
Poisefaggots status: blown the fuck OUT

>>147349929
>You cannot engage in the fallacy of assuming that if one unfinished thing would happen then everything else related to it would be identical, that's retarded.

Why would it be unreasonable to assume that any switch-on of poise would likely be just that with no effort to change anything else? Is there something you've seen in some part of Souls games' development cycles that suggests that such a huge effort post-release would of course happen rather than maybe happening at best or no chance of happening at worst?

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>>147341839
>that armor
extremely good taste

>>147350309
>implying poise was useless in DS2
They fixed it eventually lad.

>>147348873
>120 dueler
>good opinions
laughing.jpg

>>147350143
I prefer the game being without poise, but fuck From, just remove every mention of it from the game.

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>>147346259

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>>147350143
>>147350318
that's not an official response you coon. that's just some bamco rep trying to calm the masses. a true official statement would come from the developers themselves.
>/dsg/ in charge of not being retarded

>>147350318
hello newfriend

>>147349819
>needs 100 levels to make a shit build
lol typical poise hater

>>147350383
It was either absurd with all havels and buffs or nonexistent with other mid~heavy amor because an estoc would stunlock you anyway

>>147350523
post your own build

>>147350069
Int and fth softcap first at 40 and then 60 when dealing with normal spells
When dealing with dark spells and a dark casting tool, the softcaps are 30 and 45 of each.

The difference between a 30/30 izalith catalyst and a 60 court staff is less than 10 points in damage. Real damage differences only appear when using a dark-based casting tool at the softcap, in which case you see between 100-150 damage difference compared to a 60int court staff. However, 45/45 is a massive stat investment and the damage increase isn't stat-efficient at all.
Oh, also: Dark Blade does not scale with int at all or benefit from a dark-based casting tool despite being a dark buff. In fact, it`s essentially just a direct downgrade to LB/DMB and there's no reason whatsoever to use it after you acquire one of those 2.

So basically there`s no reason to specialize for casting dark spells at all. Just tack them onto your normal sorcerer or miracle build and call it a day.

>>147350490
tfw no Sanctum mace charge WA

You know your weapon is good when you see it on the loading screen. That´s like the Oscars of Items.

>>147350604
Yeah I'l give you my pro builds so you can copy them, in your dreams fag

>>147350640
Souls games will never again feature a greathammer as viable as the sanctum mace.

>>147350490

How? CE fuckery?

>>147350640
tfw no yorgh's spear

>>147349819
This kind of players is why I bring SKS more and more often these days.

>>147350730
ye
model swapped onto great club

>>147350710
>greathammer
>sanctum mace
it's a fucking greatlance essentially
ds2 greathammers are trash after nerfs

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QUICK! CLAIM YOUR'E WEAPONFU BEFORE SOMEONE ELSE DOES!

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>>147350627
Fuck I wanted to be a hexer full of edge

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>>147350892

>>147350873

great hammers were great in das2
it was all about that 1hWR - L1 L1 combo baby

>>147350683
My last loading screen

>FK helmet
>deep soul
>club

I disagree.

>>147350525
>nonexistent with other mid~heavy amor because an estoc would stunlock you anyway
completely wrong

estoc and ice rapier suffered from doing partial poise damage allowing you to poise through them for a trade with relatively low amounts of poise

you could have a poiseless build then equip some gloves with some poise and not get stunned by them

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>>147350892

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>>147350892

>>147350978
The club is a classic.

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>>147350892

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>>147350892

bleedlmao

>>147350992
Yeah, that was a nice dream I once had too.

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>>147350892

Nobody will claim her anyway.

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>>147350892

>>147350992
tell this to stone ring estoc faggot
i don't remember how much poise you needed to withstand a simple r2 but anything save for full havel crumbled from one attack and even havelshitters had no way of really countering that weapon

>>147350892
>>147344210
>not having a harem

Post cruisin tunes

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1gRESh4iyfs

>>147350892
Carthus Curved Sword Teehee!

>>147350992
All those chained R1s I landed with those two weapons disagree.

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>>147350892
I'm a huge slut

>>147350627
You sir are a scholar, thanks man thaat cleared it all up, not to mention dark resistance is also rare in this game and after testing at 30int/9 faith I found Soul Greatsword to do 5 damage more than Dark Edge but is much slower with the heretic staff at +5(tested on that weird bird in the smouldering lake) as well as the staff being boosted
Thanks a bunch for the info

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>>147350965
>>147351074
>>147351192
Shitters detected

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>>147350892
*thrusts counterly*

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>>147350892
>implying anyone else uses this thing